The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #437: Salem's Lot (1979) & Salem's Lot (2024)

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

This week, we are joined by filmmaker Mike J. Marin to talk some Maine vampires. Cool of the week includes weight loss, exercise, the Fight Night remake, and Joker: Folie a Deux. Trailers are Companion and Caddo Lake. the podcast spotlight shines on Nightmare on Film Street. And we get feedback from Matt Wood, Jason Herr, Will Vanden Bulcke, Rob Hall, Lucas Jon Stephens, David Barta, Alan Hatton, and Mayowa Jolade. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Welcome to another edition of the horror returns. I'm taking over the lead tonight. Brother Lance is a battle in the hurricane. And I don't know where Brother Philip. is, but sure it's late where he's at in the Lone Star State. But yeah, our hearts and prayers go out to everybody dealing with the hurricane going on, seeing a lot of stuff, and it sucks when weather and all like that happens. But tonight, me, of course, brother Brian is here, and we got brother Mike, Mike J. Marin, director, writer, actor, and music.

and whatever else he does collector photographer and yeah Mike what's up brother you do it man we're good brie I guess it's just uh us tonight I'm making a rare appearance tonight everyone usually I'm too busy working or doing other stuff but yeah we're doing our usual recording time me me and that's the usual recording time not the horror returns recording time. Yep. Warren, our time. Two in California

and one up in a, excuse me, at Alaska. So, but I usually don't remember what else happens. So, yeah, all of those

cool of the week news and trailers. Well, real quick, Mike, tell the listeners what you're working on right now, what you got coming up. Well, I just finished my eighth film probably about a, let's see, in June. It's called First Voice.

I started writing it in 2021 during the height of the pandemic and just finally finished it in April. And then within three weeks time, shot, edited, acted in it, and put it out in film festival. So it's been going good. So far, I've got seven acceptance to film festivals and a record 12 rejections plus two honorable mentions. So I can't complain about that. It's getting seen. And real quick, I got a interview with Senate Excess Film Festival in the UK. I have an interview with them on Saturday.

But real quick, first voice is a story of a 911 dispatcher. who's working from home during the height of the COVID pandemic, and he receives a phone call from first responders and a group of people who are trapped in a house with a malevolent entity. So he has to use his knowledge of traditional native medicine to navigate them through their ordeal and get them out safely. So it's kind of a, it's the heart of storytelling because there's no, there's no special effects, there's no visuals.

it's just all depends on what you hear in my headphones and what the writing that, you know, my dialogue. So, yeah, man, it's pretty cool. It's quick spoiler alert. If you've seen the smudging, you'll like first voice because it's first voice is kind of an unofficial sequel to the smudging. I play the same character of Bad, who has relocated to Los Angeles and is now working as a dispatcher. But that's going on. My producer, big shout out to

Isaac Trimble, who's up in Bend, Oregon right now at filmmakers camp slash convention, who's up there doing a pitch for our newest film. But under his guidance and his suggestions, I cannot disclose what that is about. So, Ben, oh, yes, exclusives tonight. What's that?

No exclusives tonight. No, I really can't because I can get nailed for it. For real. That's crazy. It's the first time as a filmmaker I've ever been on lockdown. For this new one? Yeah. It's because, well, a little bit of exclusive content, it's because there are big studios looking at it.

Can't tell you which ones, but it's on that radar. First time. I'm in it, everyone. So if you know my voice, you'll hear me. Oh, no, not for his voice. Oh, something else? Yeah. Okay.

Well, I'm in first voice, everyone. Yeah, Magnus is in first voice. Did my camera work make the cut? I don't remember. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well. Because when you saw it during the screening, when you saw it, you started laughing.

I don't remember. But it was cool, man. I mean, if I may say real quick, it was fun making the film. And it was. The little bit, the challenge was, I think, timing my dialogue to the pre-recordings of your guys, as the voice actors doing their stuff because I pre-recorded them doing their dialogue, and then I had to work it into my performance as the dispatcher. And I think that was the most challenging part, but making the sound effects and the way that they tell the story.

and that was fun. It really got me going again as far as being a narrative storyteller because for a while I was just doing documentaries but now it's like I'm back telling scary stories and it's been really a good journey so far.

And then with this new one, God, I don't want to talk about it so bad, but forget I said anything. Moving on. Yeah, we'll get to it. We won't get to it, everyone. As far as... As my involvement in the first voice, it was an honor to work with my brother that I've known forever.

And I did my recordings here, right, in Magnus Studios here in Northern California. That was fun. I mean, it was only like a few minutes, but just that doing it. And then hearing it in the final film, it was awesome. Or listening to everybody's phone. calls and radio calls and everything that would do that was awesome and when we all that were in it there was a part of it got just together and and watch it that that was that was awesome it was it was such a good project i remember when we had the first zoom meeting in 2021 when i pitched it to you guys

the first group of actors it was you d shot uh rebecca was there uh paulin roach and then here you you know, as it as it got closer, I was like, casting to me is a fun part. It's the fun part. And a lot of times they get criticized for the actors I pick because they're not like a list or what have you. But I picked the right people, not necessarily like, quote unquote, the best ones. I picked the right people. And this group that worked with me on the film were just, they, everybody delivered. Everybody was pretty much, I think there was only two actors that had to do multiple takes.

but the rest of you guys just nailed it. I remember you when we were doing yours. I was like, man, you got, I said, stand up. Stand up and act like this person's like right in front of you. And oh, that's when that was the take that we got. Because you were like, because I remember you said, yeah, I do when I stood up. And I was imagining it. That's it just imagined it.

And that's how it came out. I was like, yeah, that's, you know, that's how you do it. You got to just get up. And, you know, James Hedfield doesn't sit in a chair and sing. You know, he's up with all those who was and hoo-uhs and all that stuff. But yeah, man, other than that, just been writing, doing a lot of writing and figure photography stuff to just keep my head above water. But pretty much, man, that's all that's been going on down here in L.A. All right, man, that's good, man.

just everything that Mike had done everything that I've seen be it's a computer TV big screen saw the smudging what the AMC San Francisco then the one theater in Chicago I don't even remember where else I seen it seen that IFH that that college or whatever in Chicago Yeah, that was the first, the first screening. Oh, that was? Oh, okay. I just remember it was cold. Yeah, that was hell of cold. That was the flagship screening. And then I was thinking about it the other day, like, I never thought about it, but almost all my films have been shown in an AMC.

And that's like, wow, man. Like, I never, like, when you and I were running around, you little fat Indian kids running around Oakland, you know, I know, I, never imagined this i never imagined like having my feet in the film industry i never even imagine being this this close to something and like having people look at my work and and and tell me it's you know man you're you're on to something and you know have have actors tell me that have seen my figure photographer whatever be like oh dude this is so good can i get a print to this and this is pretty cool man i mean it's really uh it's really good experience i'm just taking it all in just taking it all in as it goes man right i'm not getting a big head or nothing i'm just enjoying

skins fest that one that one i went to yeah what was i remember what was showing this can can we can we swear on the show fuck yeah you can't lift dick white boy yeah you tell bryan about that no there's more context of that story everybody but tired but it was like okay so brian we're at redskins fest and it's at the t t s chinese theater here in hollywood and we just watched my film and we're all outside just cut and live and there's this one dude uh shout out to myron miron sumner uh you're awesome and you like wrestling so that makes you even more cooler but um he was out he looks he's native but he looks like a white

do. Actually, he's, he's at a baskin. He's from, his blood's from up there in Alaska. But he was talking with, he was talking with Kiv and he were,

he submitted a film to Skinsfest a few years ago and his film was called Liptic OG. And it was about these two guys that developed this kind of weed that is basically

is the opposite of like, opposite of like Viagra. And so it's kind of like a Friday type film with weed and, you know, erectile's function. But anyway, I was telling Kev about it. I was like, yeah, man, this dude, he did a film called Liptic OG. And Kev was like, oh, that's cool.

And then Kev was like Googling something. I was looking it up because I was trying to find, I was looking, because he said it was on YouTube, so I started looking it up. So Kemp could be. find it right nes couldn't find it so he leans over he goes hey what was your name what was your name your film again limpid white boy and mirro just looked at him like

like keb just stole his lollipopper so he looked at it all hurt he goes no man it was it was it was limpid og and kev was like oh and then we just started laughing like my wife she just like walked away she goes you guys are on something she just like walked with me and kev could not end the whole night. We just kept living a little story.

Lived Dick White Boy. Oh my God. Every time we talk, you know, so anytime like if Kev comes Skins Fest, provided I get in this year, Kev comes down.

I hope Myron's there. But then you guys bonded, like you talked forever about wrestling. We started talking about wrestling. Yeah, so that was cool, man. That was funny, but I'll never forget that.

Because the way you said it, it was like, like, you were just so serious. like, hey, what was the name your film called you? Lemptick, white boy? I wasn't like, I wasn't like trying to disrespect him or anything. But when he said Limpdick, I forgot OG because I was trying to cadeteta was on YouTube.

So I was looking it up. And I was like, I'm a little Limp Dick. And then I went, I think I did write Liptic White Boy. That's what I asked him. I said to Liptic white boy. He was like, no. I felt bad though. We started laughing along.

I was like, damn. Oh, my God. Definitive sidebusters, but. Yeah, man. Good times. But, yeah, everything, other than that, everything's been cool. I've been trying to work on a new book, but just been writing. All I've been doing is writing.

I'm a, I can tell you this, because this is still in the development part. but and no one's really kind of got their digs in it but exclusive content i am uh rewriting the smudging um it's gonna make it better because what we're gonna go after now is the budget all right um yo what's up more lighting whoa more lighting in this this time around more more lighting and and a definite definite uh definite monster but it won't fit i won't it won't be like how the first one was i mean how guerrilla style you shot it no that that film well that film still because that's sunny's no entity no no real one that was in there i don't care what anyone says that shit was scary yeah we just need to have a well in this new one um to spoiler alert there's gonna be a limp dick white

boy oh man hey man they're listening guy man i'm sorry dude i mean i seriously didn't know or remember what he said I remember was Lib Dick. I didn't mean it as no disrespect. It just came out. He had to look on his face, damn. Anyway. Yeah, Brother Land is in the house. Yeah, but can you all hear me in the hurricane zone here?

Yeah. How was it? Perfectly fine. All right. Above water. Yeah, so far. We got flooding early, or like our back porch flooded. Our pool overflowed.

Oof. And the back porch flooded, but we're good now, man. That's all. Yeah. I guess. I guess. Are you close to Lieutenant Dan that's holding it down in his boat? That guy seems blown up on TikTok.

I think so, man. No, I think we're good. We're over on the East Coast side. So I think we're all right. We're not getting the brunt of it. We're not getting the brunt of it. Where's a hit and heart? I mean, I'd seen it, but I don't remember.

Tampa. Like, yeah, Tampa and just a little bit south of that. Those guys get it a lot over there in the Gulf side. Water waters are warming up. I don't care what anybody says. They say it's a hoax or whatever. They're warming up. Nope.

This is a prime time to watch that movie crawl. Yeah. Hey, dude, Mike, if our, if our fence goes down, we'll be playing it out here, man. because they're all around us, but they say as long as you got a fence up, you're okay. So we're going to test that theory. Basements in Florida? No. Well, that's what I got in a basement.

Oh, that's right. That's bullshit, man. Yeah, basement and with a tunnel that went to that drainage did. Yeah. And secret escape route, right? Yeah. I'm like, man, must have been a drug house or something. Muggler is for real.

man but yeah um everybody not us here talking to the audience but i'm working to go around the room mike do you have a uh cool of the week other than what you just told us a what a cool of the week have you done anything cool other than the stuff you named earlier oh anything you watch read listen to did um let's see what have i Holy crap. Oh, anything I did. Oh, geez. God. Come on the spot.

Oh, well, something cool that I did. I just did an audition tonight for a series. There you go. Hopefully, I get a call back, but we'll see. But other than that, I didn't help any old ladies across the street. I did the dishes tonight. I cooked three nights in a row. I cooked dinner. We didn't eat out.

So that's always a big plus. Put all my Halloween decorations up. All right. Get a lot of people stopping by our front window that has my Michael Myers mask in it, taking pictures of it. So. But yeah, man, that's that that's about it.

Yeah. I was supposed to get the decorations on. I forgot. Oh. Oh. Renee just got home too. Sorry, real quick. I have my diabetes checkup yesterday and I am now classified as pre-diabetic. Oh, join the club.

Join the club. So they're starting to wean me off of my, starting to wean me off of my medication. Plus, I lost like 10 more pounds. So. Good. Congratulations. Well, speaking of that, that would be my cool of the week. I lost 10 pounds.

Word. I got, I got one of these new Fandangle I, Apple Watches. Oh, I've been just on a mission. Just I didn't think I was really doing anything. I wasn't eating so much garbage, but I just was walking every day, kind of set my goals on this is how many calories I should lose, this is how many hours I should stand and how many minutes I should exercise. And I had just been on a rampage. So I would just walking, walking every day. Good.

I still ride my skateboard, of course. But then I just, one day, I just, I kind of. I felt like a little different. I'm I still got the big gut and everything, but I said, you know what? Let me just go step on the scale. The only scale I use is the one in our freight house at the airport because that's built to hold heavy things. So I went, stood on it. And I was like, whoa, I was down 10 pounds and I didn't even realize it. I felt different, but like, not really. I was like, okay, let me just go see where it's been a month now. So I said, let me see. So I dropped 10 in a month. So I'm like, well, shit, man, if I can do this every month, 10 every month and keep doing what I'm doing walking strong all the time, then I should be back to my fighting weight, at least by in a year.

Yeah. I'm telling you, you need to get the Samuel L. Jackson voice for your Apple Watch. It's like, Kevin, get the fuck up. Oh, dude. It tells you. I feel the vibration. I'll look down in this business saying, get your fat ass up and stand. All right. Whatever it takes, right? Yeah, it only does that when I'm at home.

When I'm at work, I'm like constantly standing. So it doesn't bother me. But as soon as I get home on my off days, just get up. I get to get up, walk out around outside or whatever. And then do it. But yeah, that's my mission lately. Oh, one more cool of the week.

a joker Folly, Dave, whatever it is. Easy for you to say. I saw all the reviews. We talked about it on the latest E-Society, episode 320. Go check it out. Zisu, he was like,

he didn't really care for the first one. I loved the first one. The first one was great. And this one, I enjoyed it. I thought it was an awesome film. Wasn't as good as the first one. I get why people didn't like it because it was basically a musical that doesn't bother me i like musicals so i was all in on it and the performances lady gaga was was the was the was the all-star and i know uh todd phillips said this is

this is it he just wanted to do two movies that had not tying into anything but then of course rumors of the internet okay this could tie into something and if it is but does but probably doesn't I'm okay with it. But overall. If it doesn't tie into long legs, I'm not interested. I haven't seen that yet. Oh, come on. You don't see it.

I haven't seen it yet. I got that. They did have two face in there, Nez. Oh, Harvey Dan? Yeah, he was there. I got Maxine and Long Lakes, and I already seen Maxine. But I haven't watched Longlegs. long legs yet and so i'm gonna

get a chance i'll check it out but yeah i mean that joker man i thought it was good i had no no problems with it i mean because everyone some people go well there's music in it but it's like barely it was pretty much the whole movie was a musical uh yeah right right so i was i was all right with it i thought it was an awesome film of course when we can do our end of the year uh best comic book movies

it won't be number one but it'll be on my list but yeah the Zisu he was like yeah it was all right but I don't know what he wants he's he's up Marvel's ass and everything but appropriately because their movies are shit now

because I'm like I like come on Mike no I like any of the exceptions after Infinity War or Spider-Man that's it I know that's what everybody says

but there's some bright spots in there I've liked all of them. Everything that's come out. No, come on. You're killing me. Turtles? I like the turtles.

I can't remember what came out after. Turtles was good and everybody hated it. It didn't need to be that long. That was cool. I can't. Okay. I'm going to tell you guys something. I'm probably going to break the cardinal rule here.

I know Nez is going to give me shit about this. But now that I have been cultured in Hollywood. Oh. Yes, stewing in the pot, right? I recognize just straight out trash. I'll tell you that. The Bannon movies are trash. All of them. I don't know about the new one. We'll see.

I can't. I won't take them the time with you guys haven't done your calls yet, but I'll get to that later. Go ahead. Continue. No, what do you get that, Mike? I want to hear. I just, everything is pretty much, okay. I'm probably going to get crucified for saying this,

but I'm going to say it anyway, because I think you guys are pretty much know. You know, 90% of the shit coming out is written by AI. No. Come on. Dude, there are no. Okay, did you guys see Night Swim? That's the last time.

I was a favorite movie. I liked it. I liked it. Okay. That movie is 100% written by AI. That does not surprise me. And if you watch, if you watch movies and yeah, I'm going after Disney's punk ass, because if you look at all these films,

they're following the same formula. And it's kind of like just AI is just dropping shit in there. The one movie that I thought was partial AI, but I enjoyed the hell out of it, was Deadpool and Wolverine. Just because it was all out, like it was violent. I liked it.

But one way this Marvel universe is heading is like you can't have the secret wars if you had venom already. I know. How's he going to find the suit, right? You can't. And so you know how they fix that? You know how they fix that, right?

RecCon. Let's create a multiverse. So that way we can answer to everything. Like I was, I had, I had, I had amnesia when, when Deadpool was all hyped up for, for, what's his name, Captain America? He's like, oh, he's going to say it. And I was like, yes. And then when he did his other, I was like, oh, yeah, he was in there. I forgot he was in Fantastic Four.

I looked out on that part. I was like, I'm going to scream my shorts. That was clever. It was clever. But what I'm getting at is that this kind of like when you start seeing things, like kind of the behind the scenes, I'm starting to see the wizard behind the curtain now. So I know which direction films are heading.

I'm starting to know market values. I'm starting to recognize audience, all these kind of things. My producers teach me all this. So we're looking at all these things because I have to know the industry. I have to know what I'm going for as a filmmaker. So when you start to see movies like we're marvel and what they're doing, it's kind of like carbon copies of everything else.

It's the same, it's telling the same story and trying to show you guys, you know, like, oh, this is different. Look at this here. It's different. But it's like the same fucking thing. You know, that's why it's kind of, you know, the one thing that I, I, I, told somebody that works at Marvel, I was like, why don't you guys do like strange tales? Like get into that, you know, creature commandos, all that kind of, tell those stories.

Like we've seen all these other ones, man, let's introduce new shit. Do a decent ghost rider movie. Do a decent one that introduces him into the MCU. Do stuff like that, but it's like, well, the kids seem to like this. It's like, okay, Kathleen Kennedy, then let's just go for the kids. But we have to wait for stuff like, you know, Deadpool and Wolverine, which is going to be three more of that because Hugh Jackman already signed his contract. But what I'm saying is like it's I can't, I can't enjoy those films because for one,

a lot of them are like, well, you have to read the comics. It's like I haven't read anything after Sergeant Rock ended. and it's like anything all these alternate you know timelines and stuff i can't keep up you know like i i gave up i'm sorry but i gave up on moon night after that hippo started talking that was garbage and i just i never finished it i can't i can't do dual personality things it's to me it's frustrating it's like when horror movies go to possession it's like oh it's a cop out i got to go to possession you know or i don't know i don't know it's that that that's my rant that that's my opinion you know listeners you probably will disagree

with me and that's fine but i i i you know i can't uh you can't piss down my back and tell me it's raining yeah but you've seen it in action because you're in the industry so it's a little bit different from what from what we're seeing you know i i mean i could i could tell you what movies were what they were supposed to be compared to what you saw you know like for example uh salem's lot the first cut was three hours long and it was more faithful to the series the original 79 but they said trim it up make it more you know because one of the one of the executives at max was like hey man look kids are not people don't have the attention span anymore make it shorter and guys like us that like the retro stuff it's like oh then we get cut short you know for but we'll get into that we'll get into that salem's lot I won't

want to say too much. But yeah, man. But that's, that's cool if you guys like that stuff. I mean, I'm not, that's like I'm not hating on people that drink because I'm sober. You know, just be careful. Just be careful with what you watch. Well, all I know is what I want is Sidney Sweeney to return as Spider Woman in Secret Wars. What the fuck? Change everything else. I just want her back. Okay. Madam Webb was garbage, but not her. She could be Spider-Woman in Secret War. bring her back

I'm just waiting for what you call it kick ass the hunter Craven I'm just waiting for that one yeah yeah it looks pretty good what I've seen the trailer looks awesome it looks like it's gonna be good and violent but

we'll see there's gonna be what two versions of it really NC17 or whatever that one and then one for the kids okay uh you know well just be just as violent as Logan

because that I know I know which I know which one we're going to see Ness I'll see him all of them but Lance what do you got uh it I went in and this was going to be my not so cool of the week

it was uh you've already mentioned it Nez the new Joker movie because man I left I left this movie and I was like what the fuck Brian Brian knows I love musicals Like, I'm the musical guy.

Wait, this is your not so cool the week, and you messaged me and told me I should watch it. Well, yeah, you should watch it, dude. You should watch it because you need to judge for yourself. But it was my Not So Cool The Week coming out because I was not happy with the ending, which I won't go into. I was expecting, you know, more of a Hollywood-type ending, not to spoil anything. But I was very confused by it, and I didn't think there was enough music. but it's one of those movies after I slept on it.

I'm going to give it my cool of the week because, you know, Lady Gaga, she made it magical. And it was, I don't know, dude. I would say that I'm thinking that the acting in this movie was probably what got it for me. The storyline was not what I wanted.

You know, like what I wanted, you know, spoon fed to me. I guess through AI, Mike. So I was wanting more of that, you know, that stylized AI type ending and Todd Phillips he took a chance he he definitely did I think I think Joaquin Phoenix might be the best actor out there right now so I'm gonna give it by cool of the week on on further consideration oh it was a lot to take in and I get what a lot to take in I get why people didn't like it um I didn't I understood what he was trying to do and once it was said and done

and over. I'm like, all right, I can, I can see why. I mean, if you haven't seen it yet, pay attention to the beginning. The beginning first few minutes is animated. Pay attention to that. That was a trip. Then enjoy the movie. If you stuck around, Theo, when he went and saw it, he said, one guy fell asleep and two people walked out. Doesn't surprise me Nobody in my theater Seemed very happy There was only three of us in there

When I saw it yesterday Brian, what do you got? Oh, I don't know if I got anything I can talk about Uh-oh Do you watch VHS? Yeah, but me and Lance We're going to do our 31 days of horror Wrapup

So I'll say wait for me I'll join you guys Okay. What was the last thing I watched? Me and my daughter randomly put on the Fright Night remake. She wanted to watch that. Oh, hella good. I like that. Nice. Nice. Although they did. They did who wrong? Jack Skellington.

They did. They got him on the side of the road. Yeah. The same way they did that little gold. golden owl than the new class of the Titans. Oh. Trash. Trash. Member berries. Member berries.

Yeah, I think that's pretty much it. Of course, watch the WWE Bad Blood. Being as well, we're talking about that one. That was a horror movie in the beginning. Yes, it was. Oh, man. They look like a crime scene when that match was over. Something that wasn't

supposed to happen in that match. Made it a crime scene. was that like an accident or was it on purpose they said the the toolbox yeah was not playing that way because dude that gash on the top of his head i'm surprised he kept going 16 staples to close it oh dude it's like they must have just took him backstage it just did because they didn't even try to close it i saw a picture of it it was still looked open and it just stapled his hair and everything together maybe just to keep it closed to get him to the hospital. I'm watching him come back.

Did he, I didn't watch Raw. Did he come back? No. He's going to be sitting out for a while. But yeah, it was pretty bloody. My daughter was,

she was watching it until that. And she was like, I don't want to watch this. Because yeah, man. I mean, they, they were going for punk started bleeding first. And,

I mean, I thought his was bad. But after Drew McIntyre got hit with that toolbox, and the camera kind of went away and then when they went back to him it looked like he had a red mask on it was just like a tile of wave of blood covering his whole face

and I was like are they gonna stop it? The ref tried to give him a towel and he just threw it away man he cave that bitch all the way to the end and I and I also heard the the missed Claymore where he hit his back on the

metal steps was not supposed to happen either. I'm surprised a lot what they did. They kept going. And I don't know if that was true at the end on how punk was falling out of the ring and falling every time he was taking a step. But, yeah, that old man, he went through a lot in that match. But yeah, when the next horse returns, next wrestling returns, we'll run through the whole thing. What happened to Bundy? Oh, man.

Those are the only wrestlers I remember. That's been a while. A long while. I don't know. I don't know a Booker T. Oh, that's right. I do like what's... He's commentating now.

He has those cool videos. Randy Orton. I just love him. Watch it, watch, watch it, watch it. I love those. King, Kong, buddy, rest of peace. Oh, man. Yeah, that's all I got, though.

All right. Oh, man. I don't even know. What do you guys usually do next? News or trailers or headlines. Yeah, four headlines. I forget, Lance. That's all good, man.

What are we got? We're moving along. We're winging it tonight, boys and girls. Brian's the headline man. Brian's our news anchor. Let's see here. Amber Midthunder has joined the cast of Monarch Legacy of Monsters season two. Oh, come on, Naz.

Give us a Godzilla show with no Godzilla. Okay. That's the way to do it. They're talking about it. So they can sell you on the movies. I love I love you Ned Thunder

but come on I watch it just because she's in it because I tapped out on that show Is it that bad? Just boring, huh? Yeah. Give me Godzilla. If I want Godzilla, I watch

what was that last one? Yeah, Godzilla minus one. Yeah, the only The only Godzilla movie for last year. And that was hell good. Come on. Damn good, dude. That is how you...

Hey, America, that is how you do CGI. Better than that Kong. X. Zilla or whatever the hell that was called. The fucking tooth extraction. Come on. That, I told everyone, man, that movie should have just been Kong. Was it Middle Earth or whatever they would call it? It should have just been that.

And then have Godzilla make a cameo. in it because that's all it was they had that fake arm ready to roll huh yeah and they they built that thing in like an hour that yeah that's got to be a i a i for sure mike minnie con was the all-star yeah he came on the screen i guess i don't care what anybody says you can't you you know because i i don't care that godzilla in minus one that was all practical effects That's awesome. That's not what bothered me. So they do exist.

They built it. It was the people's storyline. I didn't care. That was too much of that. That added to it, man. I don't care about their problems. Well, I was wiping my eyes. Dude, I don't know how many times I cried that damn movie.

I wasn't expected to cry watching Godzilla. Brian's a tough critic. Yeah, I'm like, you lost somebody. Get over it. Let's get back to Godzilla. I respect that. I respect that opinion. Real quick.

I had a couple, two more cold, cool of the weeks. It's been like a month since probably the last time I was on. Went saw Friday the 13th, the final chapter, chapter on the big screen again, which was awesome. And I also got to go see the Texas Chantanth Massacre. Was it last week or the week before? I can't remember. The 50th anniversary? yeah I went and saw that

on the Vicks Cree there was more people for Chainsaw than there was for Friday of 13th I didn't care Final chapter's a second favorite out of the whole franchise But but and I don't know man They must have had that

I wanted But it's digital theater I wanted the old school Graney film But it was all nice Crispy clean Yeah and it was loud It was hell loud

the scene when when he was chopping up Franklin no love dude I've seen it a billion times and I don't know how many times we saw it in the theater when they did the re-releases in the 80s dude it was so cleaned up 4K

you saw the blood when Franklin was getting it and I've never seen that before you didn't see that the the blood droplets and everything I was like wow man they did a good job cleaning this up yeah they spent they spent a lot of because what you would call it um

it was the dudes estate allowed that to happen toby hoover yeah yeah he was like you guys do whatever they were like go ahead and do whatever our our dad would have loved it but um uh dude it's see but too bad me you're going to miss Halloween the real hey I'm going to see that on Halloween night I already got my tickets I was running around. But I'll tell you, the best retro horror re-release that I've seen was probably Dawn of the Dead in 3D. Yeah. That one was, oh, my God, that was bad.

It was mind-blowing, pun intended. Yeah, I took my daughter to see that one, and I think it was last winter. Yeah. I got to see it again at one of those ones where they bring you food Oh Well a lot of them do now right I know well what was the first ones

The draft house Alamo yeah Alamo yeah That's why I said man I'm losing weight Because those chairs were killing me I was like It's not the same Uh uh

I was like man these stealth chairs were digging into me but it was awesome to see Dawn of the Dead on the screen again that was amazing right so but yeah no doubt all right horror news

all right you're your girl as Sydney Sweeney yeah Spider Woman gonna star gonna star alongside Amanda Sigfried

and Paul Feig's upcoming thriller the house made oh that has potential with a name like that do they get in those those French made uniforms Put her in the Spider-Woman costume.

Let's see. Billy Campbell has joined the cast of the I know she did last summer Legacy sequel. I have no idea. Remember one? Found you, man, look, as much as, you know, as long as people are paying, they'll keep making it.

Written by AI, I'm sure. Did you see that last one? Not the TV series. The one that had nothing to do with the, The other two movies? Yeah, like, I don't know you forever. I always know what you did forever or whatever that movie was called. We were terrible.

Oh, I didn't even care for the second one. And Jack Black is a Rastafarian. Come on. It wasn't even like the book either. It was no hook. There was no hook hand fisherman in the book. But I did like the first movie. A shout out to, uh, uh, what's her nuts.

She's not Buffy. care what anyone says what's in christie swads and is buffy but uh sarah mcgillard mcgeler yeah i like her kendall she should have been the she should have been the lead and i know what you did last summer not jennifer love no she's horrible

where's she at that's the thing i saw it with a medium doing 9-1-1 is she like a tv show or something yeah it's on uh... ABC that uh... Probably make. All right.

She's making bank then. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. She's okay. She's set. Damn, 45. It was 45.

Jennifer Love. We all get older, Naz. Yeah, we do, but she don't look good in the picture I'm looking at. Uh-oh. She looks 65. Not to say I would say, no. But she ain't. Uh-huh.

The Jennifer Love from, I know what you did last summer. But they're making another one? Yeah, the, what's his name's coming back? Ooh, Freddy Prince? Yeah. For real? Of course. And she's in talks to come back.

I mean, that should be a given, right? They both come back. All this legacy stuff these days. Bring everybody back. Bring the dead characters back. Why not? The hook hand guy. Shout to listen to

That was pretty scary podcast with Freddie Prince Jr. And his buddy, I don't know his name called. Oh, yeah. I've heard that a few times. That's a good podcast. I love it.

Yeah, his episode on the first I know what you did last summer, he had some interesting things to say about the director. Yeah, he did. And I'm hoping. I'm hoping, because they were talking about the grudge

because they wanted to do that one. And he said he was hoping they can get his wife in on it. I was like, she better be on it, that she was a whole thing. whole movie. Speaking of remakes, but yeah. Yeah, true. All right. Rachel McAdams is in talks to star in Sam Ramey's horror thriller, sent help. Okay. I mean, she's got the acting chops,

right? Regina George, she's going to be in it. Yeah. You know what that is, Lance? Yeah, I think so. to Mean Girls. It was Mean Girls Day. Oh, okay. The other day. It's October 3rd. The other Mean Girl. The original, not that crappy musical or whatever they did. That was trash. How's everything a musical? I don't know, man. It's the flavor of the month, I guess.

That's what the public wants, Brian. Yep. I guess. The film adaptation of the video game until Dawn has rap production so I've never played the game never heard of it but this is directed

it's directed by David S. Samberg who did believe he did lights out and Shazam Theo was tone I think I got this game because it was like

ten bucks or whatever I played a little bit at his house and then I got it and I was meant to play it but then I just didn't but Eric took it and went through the whole thing he finished it but I

forgot to ask him what it was about but and they're making this into a movie. Yeah they've already found give me another Resident Evil after Raccoon City I think I was the only one that liked it yeah that's probably why they're not going to give you another one. Yeah

I told them you liked it and they should just never attempt at doing anything like that again unless the ghost of George A. Romero rises from the dead and directs it. Because he was supposed to direct the original. But they didn't like his script. They said it was too violent.

That's Netflix series probably killed it. Oh, that was terrible. Yeah, I'm more into the animated movies. No, the live action. The dead nothing. Oh, yeah. It was garbage. I just, yeah.

All the Russian cosmonaut and he's going to be in it. Peter Stormair or whatever. I guess he did a, he did a voice of character in the game, so he's going to play that character in the movie. Yeah, he's good at everything he does. Even if it's just small little rules.

I liked him in the Big Loboski. He was one of the Nileotsis. He was badass. I'd forgotten. He was a bad ass. Until dawn A group spends the weekend in a ski lodge On the anniversary of their friends' disappearance

Unaware that they are not alone All right When is this coming out? Probably next year Well, all right, I'll check it out And our last two things are kind of not news to me But I guess they just been made official Matthew Lillard is officially returning for

Five Nights of Freddy's 2 and Tobin Bell is officially returning for Saw 11 Neither one's a surprise right Well, X or 10 or whatever That was a prequel or wasn't it? It was, it was But he still, he was much older How do you explain that?

He was sick Oh, okay Well, but he's been sick through the whole thing, right? I don't know I don't know Continual It was better than jigsaw That one was no good

Multiverse Wasn't the best Multiverse That's it I wanted I wanted a continuation To Spiral

The Chris Rock one The way that ended I don't think we're gonna get it Man No man That guy just got away I know I was hell of mad

I was like what You know That one was good. I don't care what anyone says. That was shockingly good. I did enjoy that one. No love. All right.

That's the news. I was looking up stuff, but I couldn't find anything. I know. Shit, I probably should have wrote it down, but the Running Man remake officially got a release date. All right. I'm excited. Yeah.

directed by Edgar Wright and starring what's that guy's name from Glenn Powell from Twisters yeah Ah, okay, that dude's in everything all of a sudden Hangman Hang man, yep hang man Twisters garbage My wife's new crush

Yeah She loves that dude He's garbage man Come on man He was not good in Maverick He was not good in Twisters. You're fucking crazy. As I listened to the episode

where you talked about Twisters, and I agree with you on 95% of things, and this is the 5% I don't agree with you. Oh, man, Twisters. I actually like that one. Yeah, it was fun. It was stupid fun, right?

No. That's stupid. The highlight for me was the refinery. The refinery blew up. Right? Right. And that that part was. I mean, I will say, like, I was, I was waiting and hoping for at least one cameo from the original, like, give me, like, for one, I thought old girl's mom was going to be Helen Hunt.

But that's what I thought would have been more sense, right? And it's being Mara Turney. Yeah. The only cameo was Dorothy. And then they. Yeah, it should have, they should have sprinkled some of the original crew in there. Yeah, like, at least have. a plaque for

Bill Paxton or something. Yeah, something. Oh, that would have been good. Give what's his name in there? Sean Whalen. There you go. Sure. Sure. Somebody, but let's just, you know, they just pretty much

kind of recycled the same screenplay, but I still enjoyed it. It was a fun film. Just added sugar to try to stop the volcano. Our volcanoes. The twist. I'm dumb. Anyway.

As your brother, Jamie would say, it's science. Made up trash science. Come on. Come on like that little dude in Nacho Libre. It's science. Oh, he was awesome. Is that the guy with the corn? Yeah. Oh, that movie was really good.

Ananda. Kev doesn't like Glenn Powell. The guy from Twisters. Maverick. He's just okay. Wait, he's garbage. Uh-oh, uh-oh. Hold on. I told him that's your new crush. No, he's not a new crush.

Oh, okay. Oh, he's an old crush. Okay. That movie hit, man, that Theo liked trash. No, that was terrible, man. Terrible. And that director sends a good movie, so he's falling down. He's an Austin boy. But that's not the best possible. movie, I don't think. Oh, and that other movie.

Anyone but you? The little love story with Spider Woman. That's your girl. Just trying to bring it right back to Spider Woman. Yep. Multiverse. Multi-vers.

I don't know. I was doing it because I heard. I don't know. It's dealing with garbage. I mean. All right. Yeah. Trailer part.

right where are we going mike i don't know if you've got the trailers or not but we're going to talk about a couple oh just ones i've seen like new ones no or uh i don't know if i sent you the trailers or nez sent you to trailers no i just i watched them when you said to them oh okay what are they what to what

uh cattle lake and companion. Yeah, I hadn't seen neither one of them, Mike. You ain't watching them either? No, I've seen them now, but I had it before you sent them. What are they? Hold on, can you look them? Let's see.

Yeah, companion. Just the companion, uh, Jack Quaid. Yeah. Yeah, it looks interesting. Kind of an all-star cast, really. First of all, companion is written in the Campbell Soup font. Okay, that's my first gripe. Okay.

Why is that a gripe? Why is that a gripe? It's just a choice, man. All right. We're getting a live reaction from Mike right now. Okay, the studio that brought you the notebook. Okay, I'm in. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. So, that's to mislead you, I think. Okay, here we go. Oh, okay. This guy wrote. It looks interesting.

Barbarian? Oh, it's the writer. Oh, okay. Is that who, is that who this guy is? I don't think so. I thought it was like the, you know how they always say the producer of or somebody who knew the producer. Well, okay.

It said, from the brother of. A new kind of love story from the creator of Barbarian. Oh, okay. From the guy who lived next door to the guy that wrote. That's exactly it. Yeah. Okay.

The James Wan effect. I like what's going on in it I do too I do too I know it went to another never mind it went to another

trailer alright okay so that okay that was obscure I think I would like to see that what was another one Cato Lake

yeah it's Max exclusive how do you spell it C-A-D-D-O Oh like like the tribe okay but companion it doesn't come out until uh next month or i'm sorry next year uh january i'm watching the cado lake trailer experience in imax is is it gonna be imax worthy i'd make everything at i match now right is it shot with imax cameras or is it converted

for imax theaters um i don't even know who any of these people in it in this. Sophie Thatcher, the girl in it. She's from yellow jackets. And she was in Maxine. Oh, that was her friend. Oh, okay. She was the main girl

and the boogie man. The one that just came out. I wouldn't, I wouldn't crow about that. That was good. Well, I didn't love it. Wouldn't crow about night swim. Shout out to Vivian. swims the six on ten man layla Blair little princess lea I thought she did a good job that's right that's right she was great in that and what's his name was in it polka dot man

that's right that's right spoiler alert told can't go wrong with him he died right in the beginning all right okay I don't even know what his real name is as as an actor and as he to me he's always just polka dot I think it's I'm a I'm a tempted David Dalsmolchin yeah sure David Dishmullen It's one of those. Yeah. Who's Jack Wade? He's from, that's Dennis Quaid's son. From, uh, the boys. Oh, okay. Yep.

He's our main point of view from the boys. And he was Peter Parker and Cross the Spider-Verse. Scream. I can see that. Yeah, he has that voice. I saw that one once. I don't even remember that one. He was in Hunger Games.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He was the killer spoiler alert. Oh, well, I mean, come on. It's been over a year. We're safe. He was in Star Trek Discovery Logs. Even I haven't seen that.

I'm the Ultimate Trekkey. Guess he was in Oppenheimer. He was in Lower Decks. Oh, that's right. Yeah, Lower Decks. Yep, the animated Star Trek show. He was Clark Cannon, My Adventures with Superman. What?

This guy's, this kid's been... He's been around. Yeah, all right. But, I mean, this looks cool. I mean, it looks weird. I like those type of films. Right. But it's January. It's something. It's something you could do with your chick, right? Usually we forget movies that come out in January. Except for that one movie that came out in January a few years back, the one you loved.

Night swim? No. I think what was the first movie you guys did? Oh The bye-bye man No Was it the bye-bye man The one with the Oh fuck The first movie we ever did was the darkness

Yeah That was horrible That's how we started this show Yeah Oh Yeah But yeah the companion I mean

It's uphill from there I'm in on it It looks weird It looks weird and crazy Yeah, this one This one comes out January 9th My guy gets Knife to the neck

Slams his legs Or slams his hands in the door Geez, shoot the cop Man, that's all kinds of craziness going on in this Think your legs Yeah, that too Oh, her hands on fire What's happening here?

I don't know I could sell that scene Is she AI? Is that what's, uh, She don't feel it. But I'm in. This looks good. Yeah.

Cotto late looks interesting. Well, since you just watched it, Mike, why don't you start us off? Wham Night Shyamalan produced. Yeah. So there's going to be a twist. There wasn't in trap. It was a twist. The twist was maybe it's trash.

I like that movie. Trap? Yeah, I liked it. We got to do a whole podcast on that one then, dude. We're going to duke it out on that. Shout out to Woods is nuts. Jamie Lee Curtis's son. What is his name?

Josh Hartnick. Oh, man. Easy, easy bottom five for me this year. Spoiler alert. I don't know. I'd have to tally up all my movies. I didn't see that, nor did I see watchers.

You're okay. Did you watch the trailers for those? Yeah. You saw the movie. You saw the movie. Yeah, same with, yeah, that's pretty much how I, you know. When I go see one movie, I get to see five more before it. Yep, that's true.

So, is this the maze runner that's in this? Yeah, Dylan O'Brien. But that looks good. I mean, the visuals, visually, I always like movie set in a bayou because you can get really cool visions. Yeah, true, true.

The scene with the wolves standing in the bog I like obscure shit like that. Like, that's why I love that movie. What was that flick with Willem Defoe and his wife when they're cutting shit off of each other? Antichrist.

Yes. That's like that's a lot of like, and I even liked the lighthouse because of that. That was hell of good. Okay. It's just really good. That's why I'm looking forward to Nospirate. Because Robert Eggers, come on, forget about it.

But I like movies that show things that are, like my favorite, my favorite visual in, and Nope was that shoe just standing up. Yeah. It's so out there. What does it mean? Who grown? Me. I didn't like that one.

What, nope. Yeah. That's my favorite favorite. favorite movie that year and that's a great scene. Great visual. Piece of dough, alien, or whatever it was at the end. Why did it?

Who said that in what movie? Why do we always expect little green men? I didn't want that, but I wanted something than that. I was like, come on, man. With that aerosale? That was weird. I think it was, because it was different. I was all in until we saw it. And then I was like, Ness wanted to see E.T.

Mike. Something. With his finger point, it would light lit up. No, not even E.T. man, he wanted...

I don't know if you guys know this, but Nez thought Mack and me was better than E.T. Oh, come on. Now, that movie was...

I'm not going to say it's better, but it's more entertaining. Yeah. Neck and me? Nez prefers the Nevin's story over the dark crystal.

Oh, no. Mac in me? Is that sure? streaming anywhere? It's got to be. Probably YouTube. Yeah, right. We're going to have to do that one. Last time I saw it was in 88.

We're bringing stream fiends and action and all that back, everyone. Just hold your horses. So the rumors go, but I'll believe it when I hear it. Caddo Lake. You didn't think Salem's lot was going to come out, but it did. Very true. I did not. I did not.

Cattle Lake. Cattle Lake. It's out now, isn't it? Today. Friday. Tomorrow. Today. Or midnight. About 11 minutes.

All right. Do you guys think this is two different timelines going on? Yeah. It looks like it. Well, it's drama, mystery thriller. When an eight-year-old girl disappears and Cottle Lake a series of past deaths and disappearances

begin to link together, altering a broken family's history. Oh, man. It sounds like it's going to. Because if you know, if you know Native American symbolism and for lack of a better word, mysticism, the wolf scene pretty much gives it away. And listen to the natives. Tired of these movies. No one listens.

And then all hell breaks loose and everyone dies. When they tell you something bad's coming, listen. That stupid movie, The Darkness. It's like going back to that. Well, it wasn't that kid's fault. He was autistic and he didn't know. Wait, is that Kevin Bacon one? Yeah.

Yeah, that's true. That's pretty much what got me into, into like really, really studying Native horror movies because that's one of my biggest scribes is that film. When I met Kevin Bacon, I even asked him, why did you do that movie? He just looked at him. He had money.

He was so high when I met him, but he was really, really a cool guy. He probably said, I don't remember film. coming it but it paid for a great yacht for me exactly like Michael Cain said about um jaws four yeah the bottom of a house that's how the house it built yeah December's coming up everyone get out the jaws of revenge that's not oh boy um what was i gonna say um but i'm in i'm in on this one i watch it give me something is it out October 10th yeah in like about 10 minutes watch it. It'll be out. Time universe you guys

are in, but it's... Oh. We'll be 10 minutes for us in Northern California. I'm East, I'm East Coast. I should be able to watch it right now. Yeah, you should be able to watch in that right now. We're talking to Lance in the future and Brian's

in the past. No, yeah, Brian's in the past. We're in the present and Lance is in the future. That's it. Cato Lake. Ooh, she's in it. No, I'm looking at it. Never mind. I'm looking at something else.

I hate the IMDB. They show you the trailer for what would look up, and then it switches to another movie. I don't know if something like Billy Bob Thornton. Cottle Lake and Companion. Is that the other movie? Companion? Yeah.

Now, Mike, quick question. Yeah. Since you're a director of many movies, I see here there's dual directors. Is that a good or a bad thing? in your opinion? More than one director for one project. No, it's usually, it can be a good thing because, especially if it's two different timelines or two different ideas running parallel.

For example, my opinion is, did you guys see that movie on Netflix with Glenn Close? It's like, it's based on that demon house, that family, that black family. lived in that house. Oh, our house? No, no, no. It has Glenn close.

Oh, I thought you were going to say, he'll be the elegy. The Lee Daniels directed one. Yeah. Okay. That one, in my opinion, should have had two directors. It should have had those direct the drama, and he should have got Jordan Peele to direct the horror. Or somebody that knows how to direct horror, right? Yeah, exactly, because it just pretty much turned into a, yeah.

Exorcist remake with very... That's what I've heard. Yeah, it was... It started off good, but then... I don't know, but it's just... But going back to Brian's question, it's good when you have two different viewpoints. The deliverance, sorry.

Yeah, there you go. It's good to have two directors when you have two different viewpoints. And also, because, you know, you're pretty much... much saying the same thing just in different languages. And it's good to have somebody like that to create a balance. I mean, God, look at when you put, pretty much like when they put Spike Lee and Martin Scorsese together. And Martin Scorsese was like, you know what, just you take the

director. I'll just help out. Mm-hmm. Like walkers? Yeah. But they're originally, because that told two different stories from two different perspective. It told the same story, but from two different perspectives. And that's how you, that's how you direct. Like, like, if you get one director, i.e. Michael Mann, to direct something like heat, where he can tell both criminal and the cop stories, that's, that's amazing. When you can find that kind of director that can. That's rare, though.

That, yeah, that is. Like, like Den of Thieves. That was, did you see the trailer for the second one? There's another one? Yeah. I'd never heard about it. Yeah, it's totally, totally different. It's Jared Butler and Cube, Jr.

Same actors, but a different, totally different type of film. He is looking, I know he looked like his dad before, but there was something about this trailer where you could mistake his dad in that role. I'm telling, I'm telling you guys, they need to make a Friday legacy sequel while they're all still around. Well, he don't own. He don't own the property. Well, somebody needs to get their shit together. I mean, because for real, man, this would be the perfect legacy sequel, am I right?

Yeah, Chris, but if they can get Chris Tucker back, because he retired. I know. Yeah, he's trying to act all religious and everything, right? I thought they're making a rush hour four before they are. They are. That's happening. Yeah, rumor has it. what's his name is going to be the bad guy? Jet Lee. Yeah.

Hmm. Okay. Oh, no. Last picture I've seen in Jet Lee. He didn't look that good. Uh-oh. Yeah, he was super skinny, right? Uh, it man. The hell's his name. Oh, Donnie in? Yeah, get him. Ooh, Donnie in? Yeah.

As the villain, no, because when they, when they defeat him, it's going to, not be real what him and Jackie Chan going at it that would be awesome why not it did in um what was that one where he was the monkey king oh another one you're talking about wasn't it called that or something

forbidden kingdom yeah that is that it monkey king yeah I thought it was called monkey king yes or get what's his name that sounds familiar what's his name from the raid who they call me bruce

eco u.s yeah get him they call me bruce they call me bruce that's that set the car u.s and uh the other dude they got the ponytail the um who yayan ru ryan i don't even know his name you guys seen the raid movies oh

that one dude yeah him he was badass which they were wasted in uh force awake man, they should have did something. They just showed them really quick. They just showed up, huh? Yeah. They didn't even do nothing.

They were doing a favor for the director. The raid. Both of those movies are awesome. You guys haven't seen those. Check them out. All right. Listener feedback. All right.

Listener feedback. This week we shone the podcast spotlight on Nightmare on Film Street. Kimmy and John are the creative forces behind Nightmare and Film Street, named one of the top. horror movie podcast, variety and movie web. They've also appeared in the New York Times, Fangoria, Stylist, Okay, New York Magazine's The Strategist, and also on NPR. In 2016, they launched Nightmare on Filmstreet as a welcoming space for horror enthusiasts of every stripe and obsession level. Their mission, to celebrate the eriest genre that is in the most

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It's hard for me to keep up a podcast because there's just so many of them. There's a lot. There's a lot. Well, they got some street cred for sure. So definitely listeners check out Nightmare on film. I thought you were reading our credentials for a second. What, that we haven't done shit? So just sit here and talk.

All right. More feedback. Matt Wood said, did you guys manage to get lists up of your 31 films for October? Brian, I'm going to let you answer that one. I'm just going day by day. I don't know what I'm doing until I search.

I'm doing all. My list is the same as last year. It's all 20, 20, current year releases. Yeah. Me too. Me too. And I know the geeks kind of start recording theirs or yeah, they don't they don't put them up of course until October, but they usually start recording theirs and watching the movies November 1st. Nez, how do you do yours, man? I started in September. Okay.

So majority of everything that's coming out, maybe the first half of the month, is all been pre-recorded. Brian and I can do some more as well as Taylor. and blind Frankenstein, a.k.a. Big Jesse. He's coming back again. But what we've got so far, other than my Texas Chainsaw retrospective, did all those, except for the prequel to the remake and the remake.

I haven't done those yet, saving those for this month, October. But what we got so far, the first nine days, we got quarantine, quarantine two terminal then Brian and I did wreck friend of the show Julie we did the 1977 classic Empire of the Ants

Then I started my Cabin fever Franchise started with the original then we went to Cabin Fever 2 spring fever then cabin fever Patient Zero then the remake Then Julie came back for the 1978.

It was horrific stuff in it, but it was more of a thriller type of action thing, the swarm. We did that one. That was the episode that came out for today, September, October 9th. And then, yeah,

the first nine episodes we got up, got more common for you for the rest of the month. But, yeah, that's all we got so far. Please tell me, on your guys's list you have audity is it new we don't really tackle new I do we don't really tackle new stuff

I've already seen it all right it's on my list I haven't seen it yet I like the performance of the lead actress yeah it was it was really that's one of my damn I still can't say anything but yeah man

that's yeah don't don't spoil man but I'm looking forward to them yeah the trailer the trailer did intrigue me. Mike, do you try to watch at least 31 horror babies in October? I watch about 31 a day. I figured you might. Okay. Yeah, I have, I mean, I'm sure for Halloween, like the core Halloween day or whatever, we all have our lineup. I already have mine.

Mine already. Right. But I've been, I've been trying to watch because I have to keep up with market trends. So I have to buy whatever comes across my radar. So like a lot of independent stuff, for example, huge shout out to the guys that did this one on YouTube called Rorschach. Yes, yes, I've heard of this. One of the scariest online movies I have ever seen. That one and host. Those are my two favorites.

Yeah, that's a good one. Definitely check that one out. Watch it. Okay. If you can't watch it with all the lights off with headphones on. That's because you'll experience it. It's an experience. It's one of the best found footage horror movies that never got theatrically released but should have.

But it was really good. But I watch a lot of free stuff on YouTube or just try to catch these little gems that you find on, you know, Paramount or Shudder or what happens. you um but yeah man that's i i try to get in at least at least 30 sometimes nez comes on says hey we're going to do this and and then that's what we get to like we're talking about salem's lot i i as a matter of fact it keep me occupied so i'm not scared um i put the original on so it's just playing on the tv right now okay but uh but yeah uh but yeah i try to get my 31 of my definite top five that i watch are um i don't care what anybody says i'll watch i'll watch i'll watch Watch this to my grave.

It's the great pumpkin, Charlie Brown. That always kicks it off. That's a classic. Night of the Living Dead. Okay. The original Howard Hawks the thing. Dark Night of the Scarecrow. Yeah.

The day before I squeeze in the... Is there a part two to... Yeah, it's trash. It's made by the same director, but it's trash. Did they release both of them on 4K? Yes. Yes, but the original, I always stick with the first one with Larry Drake. Okay.

That one with Dr. Giggles? Yes. Dr. Giggles himself. Him and Charles Durning. But other than that, what else? Oh, I always do the top three universals the day before, which is Dracula, Frankenstein, and the Wolfman. And I finish it off with. Oh, I got to throw Jack Skellington in there, which people think I'm crazy, but I only watch the first half.

Then I watch the second half at Christmas. I don't, I just, I just do it that way. That's kind of cool. I like that. And, and of course, as soon as he goes down the tree, that's when I stop it. And then watch it when he lands. I can see that. And then, of course, I always finish it up with the original.

But this year, on Halloween night, I get to go see Halloween in the theater again. So, but yeah, and then I don't care. That'll be an experience. Yeah. Oh, I'll tell you, Lance, the experience of a lifetime was going to see John Carpenter play on Halloween night at the Palladium. And that it was, I mean, you should, it was like a Slayer concert when he, he kicked in the first couple bars of Halloween. Right. Going to see them tomorrow at the Aftershock Festival.

Yeah. One of the coolest, one of the coolest. one of the coolest times I went there was the last time I went there was 2019 I went to go use a restroom when I came at that's when I first met Nick Castle he was standing there and I was like holy shit what's up he's like hey buddy how you doing the original shape right yeah yeah and that that concert was particularly uh close to my heart because um I got to meet John Carpenter and it was really cool because I was in the first group of Vieter IPs to meet him. I was the last guy in the first group. And I met him and he signed my thing poster.

And he signed my Halloween poster. And, you know, we just shook hands and, you know, Todd gave him a copy of the smudging, my film. And I went to get up and he was like, hey, where are you going? I was like, well, the next group's coming. He goes, ah, they don't come in for another 20, 25 minutes. 20. I was like, are you serious? And his son, Cody was like, you should, man. He doesn't really do this with anybody. So I sat down That's up I remember Dude he told me he goes we can talk about anything other than my movies So we talk about

I can understand that for sure Yeah we talked about baseball Comic books Music And then like the last five minutes he was like You can go ahead and ask me whatever you want now about movies And it's like dude I have all these questions But he gave me good advice as a filmmaker

And then when when he came out on stage and everybody cheered, I was in the front row, like right against the gate. He came over and he gave me a fistball. Very nice. Very nice. John Carbner, shout out to John Carbner. Listen, man, you're awesome.

You fucking rock. And as I told you that night, this was cooler than if I ever got to meet Elvis, this would be cooler. When I told him that, he just looked at me like, oh, come on, man, really? Yeah, I could understand it. Because I think he's very humble, right? He strikes me as that. way. He is, but

the later the night gets, and when people try to rush up to him to sign stuff, he turned into a complete car budget. Well, you know. He gets tired, but he still will take to his grave. He still, he

knows who is the thing at the end of the thing, but he will not tell anyone. As well, he should not, right? I do not want to No. He said, I know who it is. And the only way you can find out is if you watch the movie really closely. You'll be able to find out. So he told me. All right. Well, as we were talking, our 10th episode just dropped. And that is Tremors from 1990. Oh, Tremors. That's a classic.

Why did they never did the TV series? I know, man. First 10 days a row. Shout out to Fred Ward. Yep. Oh, yeah. Remo Williams. Rima Williams. Time writer.

What was his name? Lyle Swan, yeah. We did that one, didn't we, Brian? Yeah, we did both those. Yeah, guys, man, they're tremors. Gee, I remember seeing them. Both of them. They've done like 10 now, Brian.

And they're trash. No, we're talking about Rima Williams and time. Oh, I thought. I thought you meant tremors. Okay. I liked him in Uncommon Valor. He was good in that. And Southern Comfort.

Him and the Great... That's right. I remember that. Yeah. I remember that. As you picked that Vinegar Syndrome, Southern Comfort out? No. Ooh, I got that one.

The 4K one? Yeah. Yeah, the box. Oh, yeah. Of course, I got that one. Love that movie. Nice. Yeah, I love that movie.

I met, um, uh, what's his, what's his name uh t k carter and i told him that i was like i love that movie he goes man the only thing i could remember with that movie is getting mosquito bites and i got the flu how bad yeah because they filmed it all in the swamp right yeah in um they filmed it all in texas i thought it was in louisiana i did too i thought i thought it was right in louisiana t k carter was that punky bruce's teacher oh god yeah t k carter he was he was he was He was Nalls. That's what I said.

He was Punky Bruce's teacher. Yeah. You guys watch that show. All right. All right. Got some more feedback here. Regarding Abigail, David Bardust said,

I love this movie. That's a good one. It's a good one. All right. Regarding Terror Fyre 3, Jason Her, glad we got our tickets because our showing is almost sold out.

I don't know if any Terror Fy 3 sold out, do you all? I don't know. I got a, ticket that I can't use. I know that. Uh-oh. I'll take it. But I gotta come to L.A., right?

No, we gotta come to Reno. I'm going to see Salaer tomorrow. Okay. Well, that's a long way from the middle of the hurricane here in Florida. So, all right. Let's see. Will Vandenbuckle said Jericho's going to be arts first victim in Terror Fire 3. You guys are wrestling fans. What do y'all think? Y2J. This is second victim. Didn't he get killed Is he?

No I thought he did No they opened the door And the chick was giving birth to Art's head And Jericho was just screaming or something Put him on the list Jesus

All right you guys Oh man You guys believe the hype about that About people walking out and throwing up And no That's just hype At this point They say that all the time

They said about that movie raw no nothing wrong with that that that maybe was boring but when I saw Terrifier 2 a couple did walk out like the first 10 minutes I think it was after that little girl shit on herself or whatever it wasn't the dude it was the girl that was with them they were the group of people all right and then once that

laundry mat scene she like I can't take it and got up and then he's a better man than me he's a better man than me because i'll just let her go and continue to watch the film yeah me too i would too the only thing i remember being at or someone walked out was the last hell the last house on the left remake during that super long rape scene oh a bunch of people got yeah we did that for 39 days we did both we did both i think oh and the in the the original the comedy yeah the um All right.

The, oh, and the second one. So that couple left was a girl. It wasn't a guy's fault. But halfway through the movie, a grandma and her granddaughter got up and left.

What? Why? Okay. I don't know. Why were they even there? The grandma was like, just took me back to the Parkway Theater days. She talked through the whole movie.

Whatever was happening. Dude. Whatever was happening on the screen, just like, oh, whoa, what's coming? Oh, uh-oh, don't go in there. She was like, that made me laugh the whole thing. I didn't care, but it got to a point where she was like, I can't take any more. We need to leave. But they got through half of the movie and then got up and left.

But I was like, man, really? I mean, that was 30 bucks right there. Yeah. You lost your comedy act, huh? And that other dude, man, I'm not, that was another $30 wasted. And the thing about that couple that left, I had to run to the bathroom. I drank my soda too fast. So I, like, booked out of the theater really quick.

As I was running to the bathroom, they were sitting on a bench out there waiting. I was like, ooh, I would have been, because all their friends were still in the theater watching it. I would have said, hell no. I said, sorry, baby. I'm going back in. I mean, come on. All right. Regarding a feast two sloppy seconds.

Rob Hall says, Awesome title. Okay. Regarding assault on Precinct 13, I think they made the original here. Lucas John Stevens says, finally, saw on the big screen last month,

fantastic. That's got to be one y'all like, right? It's carpenter fans. That was good. I like the remake. Yeah. I've never been action-packed.

Yeah. Ethan Hawke. and Morpheus. Morpheus. I hope he's remember something other than that. He's the, was he like the Hobo King and John Wish.

Sure. That's right. He's, what's his name? His Pop's. And Death Wish 2. Oh, that's right. Same stuff with me, man. Oh, man.

Yeah, Death Wish 2 at what else was he Cowboy Curtis Yeah his first movie was Apocalypse Now when he lied to Francis Ford Coppola and told him he was 17 and he was actually 15

Wow There's some trivia Okay That's when he was Larry Larry Fishberg Now he's all Lawrence And he's in the best The best Nightmare in Elm Street

Dream Warriors Agreed Agreed He was Larry Fishbrun and that too Every Every time I'm up at the UCLA campus, I always take a picture of the insane asylum, because that's what was filmed. No shit. Dream Warriors, it's hell of good.

Yeah, Moore Hall, right where they had the protest clash. Yeah, right there in that quad, that's where they filmed a lot of that. So I always take pictures of that had Senator DeKal. Look, who stood here? The puppet master Freddy, where the dude. had the strings and he walked off the building. Oh, yeah, that's that tower. I always take a picture.

Uh-huh. That's eyeball. From standby. That's right. Eyeball chambers. Yeah. All right. Yeah.

Go ahead. All right. Regarding the platform two, Alan Hatton says, if it's anything like the first film, I won't bother. The first one was awful. Yeah, it's on Netflix.

What? But, whoa, whoa, platform. Y'all thought it was, did you guys think it was awful? Not the first one. Me neither. What's this dude talking about? I didn't even know it was the second one. Yeah, it just came out.

Oh, okay. I'd rather die. I'd rather die than be in this voice. Yeah, that's hell on earth, right? Have you seen this one, Mike? The first one? The platform? Yeah, it's a Spanish movie.

Mac? No. Check it out. Yeah, it's good. They're on the Netflix now. I don't have to watch the second one. I didn't even know there was the second one. Yeah, one of our friends

that works at this restaurant we go to. She was talking about it. Yeah, man. It has a lot to say about society. I have to watch the first one again. I don't remember much of it. But I liked it. It's a trip.

All right. One more piece. of feedback regarding wrong turn five bloodlines what uh my oh my oh would jolotti said very bloody i love it so much i don't even remember that one do y'all which one is that

wrong term five i think there was a lot of incest going on in that one that would make sense okay the last one i remember is when they were in the snow i think that's four yeah okay okay i don't think I've seen this one. I've just seen the first one.

I think this one's at a resort or something. A resort? Okay. Sure. See, there's a round turn six? I guess. Maybe that's a resort one. We need to make

a box it. Yeah, throw it right in the garbage. Oh, no. I liked it. The ones I've seen, I liked. Part two was pretty crazy, the one with Henry Rollins. I like the remake. I actually like the remake.

It wasn't a remake? It wasn't nothing to do with reimagining. Backwoods, Yahoo's. I know, I know. Incessed Yahoo. They weren't in there. It was more of just a cult in the woods. But that was a good movie.

All right. Our show intro and all of our new local. come from Steve Carlton from the geeks and be on the lookout for more great stuff from Steve our original skull artwork comes from Natsulani And now it's time for our featured attractions This week we're going to visit the the town of Salem's lot or Jerusalem's not actually with a 1979 original as well as the brand new release So we got Salem's lot trivia a novelist and a young horror fan attempt to save a small new new New England town, which has been invaded by vampire.

Spoiler alert. Director Toby Hooper. There we go, guys. Also known for the Texas chainsaw massacre. A writer was Paul Monash. Also known for the TV series V. That was great. For a young Frady Kruger.

Y'all remember that eating a rat? Yeah, Willie. I am just. That's right. All right. The one piece of trivia, we got the exterior for the Marston House. was actually a full-scale facade, however you pronounce it,

built upon a smaller pre-existing hilltop house. In total, the facade cost the production and estimated $100,000 to build. In 1979, an entire house could have been made for that amount. So we find trivia where we can, folks, but I'm going to, I have not rewatch this one. I'm going to let you guys talk and I'll be back, but I'm going to,

I'm going to go do a quick assessment of the hurricane damage or non-damage, because in this fortified purge place, I can't hear any wind. So I want to go see what's going on, and I shall return. Ben Mears has been away too long, and now at last he's come home. A men fought at Valley Forage. Daddy, come back safe. Home to the childhood memories, to the old familiar faces, to a life unmolested by time.

And with your saints, let him rejoice in your presence forever. We ask it through Christ our Lord, amen. Home to Salem's lot. Mike, you want to kick us off? Sure. I got another interesting piece of trivia that I just showed Niz this last year. If you watch closely in Salem's Lot in one of the scenes, you'll be able to spot the pretty lady leather face. mask from Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Toby Hooper left it in the film.

Just real quick, if you want to know where it's at. It's in Lance Curwin, aka Mark Petrie. It's in his bedroom on his table. And it's in the background. He's got to be able to spot it. Anyway, 1979, Salem's lot, Toby Hooper. I remember watching this on CBS when it came out in 1979. I was eight years old.

My parents were at their bowling league and told me, not to watch anything scary, but me being me, I watched it and watched both parts. And I remember still, it's probably my favorite vampire piece of film ever, a movie, TV show, whatever you want to call it. But it's before vampires were sexy, before vampires were sparkly, before vampires had you know, aristocratic blood. It's just balls out like how Romero had zombies. No running, no brains, just zombies.

And it made vampires scary. So has an all-star cast of, including the late great Starsky and Hutch's David Sol, who recently passed away, George Zunza, Lou Aries, Bonnie Bedelia, who's John McLean's wife, and a host of other people in this movie. It's really good if you like a slow burn vampire flick that has the great retro

Sunday night movie feel of the 1980s, 70s and 80s then it's right up your alley. If you can buy a copy of it because they fixed it up really good. Warner Brothers did a good job fixing it up and rumor has it.

There is a 4K version on the horizon. Complete with deleted scenes. Believe it or not, there was some stuff cut out of this film because of a lot of blood. The only people that have seen the uncut version are in the UK.

The UK has an uncut version of this film. That's a lot bloodier and it's a lot scarier. But we weren't able to get that on this side of the pond. But hopefully this 4K release will include the deleted scenes. But again, I can't love this movie enough. ever since I first saw it

and I don't know that's that that's that's my take on it Kev when did you see this movie I didn't see it until it came out on they showed it on Channel 44 KBHK in the Bay Area

that's when I saw it and it was like part one and two like right after another as soon as the first half was over the second one kicked in me and Jamie watched it my older brother we sat there

and why I remember you talking about it. Plus, I remember that bookstore on the corner when I was living on East 19th. Looking in there and I remember seeing the book, the actual book, Salem's Lot book. And then looking at other horror magazines

or books that were in there. There was always pictures of it and I was like, okay, I want to see this. So finally came on Channel 44 and we watched it. And I love this movie. This movie's awesome. I watched it earlier today. I never get tired of it. Yeah, David Sol and what's his nuts? I didn't realize he passed away.

Lance Kerwin? Yeah, I didn't know. He passed. But I actually been to Salem's lot. It's a town along the coast of Northern California. The town of Ferndale. They also filmed that movie Outbreak there when I was there with the Zis. He's the one that told me.

So I kind of looked up the location on where the Barlow House was. or what was a house called? Not Barlow House. What was the house called? Barstyn House. Yeah, where that house is, it's not there. They just built it in front of an actual house that's there. And the house is just level.

I mean, there's nothing really there. But, and the little antiques shop where, not Stryker. What was his name? Yeah, Stryker. Stryker, yeah, the little shop where he was. Also, the, um, A little real estate house, a little office or whatever. I saw that and everything there.

It's funny because not too far away from Ferndale is the Silver Shamrock building for a shot Halloween 3. It's like a couple of miles down the road. But yeah, it was cool. Going there and seeing it, I'm going to be going over there that way, hopefully in a couple weeks. And I want to make it out there because I hear that they're terrible. and down the Silver Shamrock place and I want to get a piece of it because I love Halloween 3 season of the witch but yeah this movie's awesome and actually going there to the town that they used in Ferndale it was really cool um we drove around there at night and it was spooky because even in this film it's spooky during the night scenes and everything and I just loved uh everything about this film I mean especially uh Kurt Barlow uh reggie uh nalder he was creepy um we'll get to the new guy but this one i mean it was just spooky

one i loved about how he looked is we didn't really see him really that much until what the second half uh of the film um but what i love the most about him was his teeth he didn't have like the fangs like all the other vampires did his two long fangs were like like his uh two front teeth i thought that was awesome and James Mason I mean he's just good in everything he pops up in so I liked his character but this movie was good

I mean there was a lot more in this one because it was three hours than then the remake but I loved every minute of this film plus there was a lot more stories in this one and when we get to the new one yeah I'll let you know what I thought of that one

but this one is definitely an amazing film I love love it. I never read the book. You guys know I'm not much of a reader. I never saw the second one. Return to Salem's Lot. Am that any good? No, man, you're not missing anything. But I did see the 2004 Salem's Lot, the one with Rob Lowe and the late and great Donald Sutherland and Rector Hower. I saw it once And I From what I remember I enjoyed it

I'm gonna have to seek it out and and watch it again But this one the the original 79 one It's an amazing amazing film and It's still creeping me out The little kid floating in the window That's still like one of the scariest things In vampire horror films TV film

Oh man I mean watch it earlier today, man, it was fully sunlight and I was still creeped out about that. And I love that scene on how they shot it in like in reverse, especially when he bites his brother, when he bites his brother, Danny. I like that guy's Danny and everything he's in. I liked him and I recently watched Red Dawn as well. But that was cool. I liked how Toby Hooper shot this film and everything. And It was just amazing. I loved it. So, yeah, Salem's Lot, 79.

Awesome. Yeah, to be honest, this is the first time I've actually watched this thing all the way through. I've never finished it until this recent watch. And I definitely can see that this is a classic, why people enjoy it. A lot of the effects hold up. Nez, you brought up the scene shot in reverse. Favorite scene for me. That was cool.

I mean, the vampires themselves, not just Barlow. I mean, everybody was spooky. Even the one lady that was in the doctor's office when David Sol was taping that, taping that the two little tongue depressor sticks together. And then saying whatever prayer, I don't know the prayers, Mike, you know. But that part, man, they were so suspenseful. and even watching it now. And what's his name from Any Which Way But Loose? What's his name, Lewis?

That was creepy when he was sitting there on the rocking chair. I mean, oh, man. I've seen this a billion times and I was still scared watching this. You know, what made those scenes effective, those two scenes is there's no music. There's no music leading, like the scene where, Ben Mirrors, David Sol is putting the tongue depressors together, and you see that Marjorie Glick's body when she's laying there under the sheet.

And the camera keeps focusing back to the sheet. And to him, there's no music. It's just, like, quiet. And can you imagine just like sitting in a room with a body is scary enough. But sitting in a room with a body that you know is going to rise. And then when you see the sheet move a little bit, and then the music kind of see that's what i was going for when i did a first voice cab because you were

like i didn't even realize it was music in it too because i snuck it in there i let the tension build up and then snuck the music in so that scene and then that scene that you're talking about with geoffrey lewis uh when he's sitting in a rocking chair um and he's like look at me teacher i mean that what makes that scary is their eyes yeah Because yeah, those glowing eyes. And I'm glad that, well, we'll get to the remake. But yeah, I can't love this. And it's always my go-to whenever I want to get in the mood for something retro and scary.

This one and Stephen King's It with Tim Curry. Those are always my two go-to. First half, second. I like this second because of, God, all those. I mean, John Ritter. Oh, rest of peace. Yeah, and what's his name from Nightcourt? Him too.

It's like they, God, it's like then they passed away. And I like that. But yeah, man. And then we get to, I never saw, I saw, I think I saw the 2004, but it was the fact that it was Rutger Howard. And it was like, okay, but. I didn't I mean he wasn't either vampire or Buffy

Yeah Yeah so it was like I kind of okay what is this now what are they trying to do But um I've I've been one of the people waiting for this remake Which was made two years ago And uh Then we'll get to it but if it felt like longer

When an actor Popes up in it Mm-hmm Yeah. But it's the original God. I mean, there's so many, so many cool things you can say about it. Like, for one, legendary director, rest in peace. I mean, Toby Hooper, Toby Hoover, the music, also, the music by Henry Sukman is one of the most sought after soundtracks. Even though each track on it is only like maybe an hour and 40, minutes at the minute 40 but still it's like it's timeless this this movie's timeless no matter how many times you can you know it's going to go down as one of the greatest horror movie experiences ever and when they shortened it to make it in the salem's lot the movie and they shortened it it just didn't do it justice um but you this is definitely one you got to see watch as a mini

series but yeah if you can find it if you see it anywhere uh Target if they still sell movies Walmart Barnes & Nova if you see it anywhere just grab it Just grab it and buy it because this is one one of the grades Now you said there's a version where there was the blood and stuff in there? Yeah, it was in the UK They released a version that was bloodier. Yeah, because I noticed the the the freeze frames on some of the kills Yeah, just kind of kind of felt like there was something more to that Yeah, there's one of the ones in particular was when

Mike Ryerson jumps down in the grave and he opens a little kid's coffin and there was like a splash of blood but then they cut that of course because it had to go to network TV

but real quick man you know as much as they tried to keep us safe quote unquote from bloody movies you know those hammer horror movies were like really bloody. Oh, hell yeah. Or of Dracula. They were bloody and violent.

I mean, what you'll call it was, man? My favorite, Prince of Darkness. I mean, they had to drain that dude to bring back Dracula. Oh, man. I can't find

what's his name in the cast? Danny Kid. Oh, Brad Savage? Yeah. Yeah, his sister was in Friday 13th part, part three. He was. He got killed in the hammock. Oh, okay.

All right. Yeah. Oh, here he is. Tracy Savage. And then what's his name was, is also a savage in that movie, but no relation. The guy that played Ali, Nick. Nick Savage. Man, I, just real quick on that.

Oh, God, that guy went out worse than, well, no. At least he tried. Rob the Jason Hunter didn't even try. At least Ali tried. Ali deserved that death. He tried. Brian, Brian, I'm sorry. Kiv, when Nesb was watching Friday 13th Part 4 in the theater,

he recorded that scene just for me when Rob, he's killing, man. He's killing. I was like, oh, when boy. Because when we saw that movie, we were all hyped. Oh, this dude's going to fight chasing. Yeah, this dude. And I don't know. I don't know.

Whenever I'm running upstairs and my foot goes through, I always have the urge to run back downstairs and see why. You know, that part was stupid. The only smart one in that movie was the dog, because he was like, I'm out. The dog saw what was going on. He was like, you know what? Fuck this.

I'm out. to go live off raccoons or something, but I'm out of here. Gordon. They have senses we don't have, man. Straight up, man. Like that dog saw what happened in the shower. And he's like, no, no, no, no. Yeah.

Golden retrievers. So, Lance, we just covered, what was your take on original Salem's life? You know what? I think I saw it. The last time I saw this one was 1980. And I didn't get a chance to rewatch. So that's why I left it up to you guys. Did you read the book?

Oh, hell yeah. I've read it twice. One of my favorite Stephen King books, actually. Did you ever read the follow-up, the short story that was in his book, Night Shift? I read it, but I do not recall too much about it. Did it focus on the priest, or am I thinking of something else? No, no, the priest, Father Callahan comes up in the dark, the dark, the dark tower.

That's right. That's right. That's right. Okay. That's what I remember that from. Movie was garbage. Yeah. But the short story,

the short story is about these two old guys. Because Stephen King always makes old dudes like really cool. Of course. Even now. Yeah, these two old guys are chilling in this bar and they're getting ready to lock up. And then this dude comes in. He's all frostbitt. And he's like, my family's stuck out in the snow.

you know and they're like oh he's got to be from the city because he's a dumb ass for driving his kids out here in the nor east that's that's that's that's pure stephen king right there so they asked him well where did you and he's like i we pulled off in this town like right on the way to cumberland and those two old guys look at each other like what what town he goes there's a town up there something about a lot and they look at each other okay i do remember that now so they're like we got to go get your daughter your wife because and then on the way up there they're telling him like why

they stay away from that town but that's that short story is really cool that and the prequel one Jerusalem's lot and if you guys are into that storyline check out this mini series I think it's on prime it's called Chapel Wake with Adrian Brody that's like I've heard of that

yeah it's the prequel to Salem's lot oh cool all right I'm going to add it to my to my list then. Chap. Chapo wait. Chapo wait. Yeah. With Adrian Brody.

All right. They returned to Salem's lot. I'm going to watch it. I haven't seen it. An anthropologist and his teenage son moved to Maine, to a main town full of vampires. Didn't they kill them off? That's it.

Well, depends on what story, right? Multiverse. No. Multi- first of all a lot of fans got pissed off because when they first advertised it they put barlow on the poster yeah so i'm looking at he's not okay i'll say he did yeah it's it's this new i don't know it's the town's full of vamp i don't know how

if the vampires rebuilt it at night when the sun wasn't out or whatever but it's basically like kind of has some references to the first one but um i don't think the town burnt down in this one that they just never like I don't know I watched the beginning of it and then I don't know it just it sucks I'm looking at I'm looking at images of it and it does not yeah it's I've heard

I've heard bad things I don't know if this guy's the main vampire but he looks steeked yeah he looks like it looks like an oatmeal cookie he looks like the he looks like the creeper from um the creeper from um

Creep show two, the guy that was in the back of the truck, Tom Savini's character. He looks like that. He looks like that. No, it's just, no, just stick with, stick with, uh, if you have to pick an overall Salem's lot, just stick with the 79. All right. And I say check out the 2004 one with Rob Lowe. So I seen it once.

I liked it when I saw it, but I don't remember much of it, except for that scene in the bus. That part was scary. All right, moving on. Did we do our scores? Oh, the 10. One to ten. Ten being the best? Yeah.

Selems lie. Ten, I'd give an 11 or 12 if I could. Nice. Yep, 10. Hell of good. I'm going to go nine and a half. Wow. What was the last half discrepancy?

the commercial breaks and I would have I would have liked to see a little little gore a little blood in there but you're saying that that's possibly coming soon yeah so it could change damn

we're into we're into we're in to where they talked about multiverse now we're into spiderverse territory Brian all right you all ready to move on yep yeah all right this this time of

familiar. Salem's lot. I've heard this. I've always written stories about things that are so terrible. You'll run away until your brain won't remember. So why did you come back? I'm here for research. What exactly, though, are you researching? I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary in the lot recently.

Folks, I had some kind of unusual experiences. But this one's from 2024. So the trivia. Director and writer Gary Dalberman, also known for Annabel Comes Home. Gary Dalberman told, oh, wait,

I guess I didn't get the description. I think we know what this is. I'll read the record. When other Ben Miris comes back from his childhood home in search of some inspiration, for his next book, he discovers that people in his hometown are mysteriously turning into blood-sucking vampires. Speaking of Topman Maverick, isn't that Bob? Yeah.

Is that him? Louis Pullman? What's your name? He looked familiar. Yeah, I had to look him up, too. I was like, who is this guy? And I'm all shit, that's Bob. Bill Pullman's son.

Yeah. All right. one piece of trivia Gary Dalberman told Den of Geek in June 2019 that his goal with a new version 2019 see what I mean Brian

2019 and here it is five years later this is why I was so pissed it took so long and I was so worried about this movie but we'll get into that we'll get into that was our right to be frightened Mike I guess we're going to find out

all right his new version of Salem's is to make vampires frightening again. He wants to get away from the sexier, more romanticized undead that have quote-unquote infested pop culture for much of the past

quarter century. Thanks to everything from interview of the vampire to Twilight to the Vampire Diaries. Mike, you got the spotlight, brother. You are our big guest. So tell us all about how good or bad this new movie is. Okay. First of all,

Let me backtrack. The last time I saw scary vampires that were along the same lines as Salem's Lot were Lost Boys and Vamp. Okay. Didn't we do that one, Brian? Vamp? Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. That movie's great, man.

Hell of good. You weren't scared of Leslie Nilsson and Dracula dead in loving it? You know what? Bingo. Yeah. Yeah. With little with little dreads. Little driven.

Okay. New Salem's lot. Where should I begin? You know? First of all, I was very excited when they first announced this because I heard the original concept that James Wan was behind it. And I was like, oh my God. First, they said he was going to direct it.

I was like, oh, my God. Him and Lee Wannel, they're going to do this. going to be badass blah blah blah and then we get to it and then i see the runtime and as a 79 faithful i'm just like how are they going to be able to cram all these stories and character development into this shortened film gave me flashbacks of 1979 salem's lot the movie when they tried to shorten it oh that's right yeah and it just left so many chunks out which is how i feel they did with this one. They left a lot out.

There was a lot of character switcheroo's that I didn't really find engaging. Put it to you this way. There was really no one in the movie to feel anything for because they didn't give them time to develop a character. Okay. The only

character that I felt had a semblance of backstory was the little guy was Mark Petrie. I don't know the actor's name, the little African-American guy that played in him. Jordan Preston Carter. Yes, was my favorite character in this version. Okay, I can see that.

He was a neat little kid. His acting was great. He had those big old glasses with a tape on him. I mean, yeah, he was a horror nerd through and through. Yep, and he knew about magic. He was just, it was like me growing up. I knew a lot more about horror movies than ever did about schoolwork. so that being said and then Louis Pullman

Bob as Ben Mears I could see that the way they gave him the retro look he was driving the same car that he had in the book but the surrounding characters that made up the quote unquote Ben-Helsing Army in the book was you know Dr. James Cody

and Matt Burke, the school teacher, and Susan Norton, his girlfriend. But in this one... Did they combine characters in this movie? Pretty much. Yeah. Except for... Are we talking spoilers? Not yet.

Just initial thoughts. Okay. Well, the casting of Alfred Woodard, tremendous actress. I love everything I see her, and she's awesome. She's also a very nice person. but I felt without any kind of director's cut, which I know there's going to be one, her character was just kind of thrown in there.

You know, we never really got her first name. It was just Dr. Cody, but in the book it's Dr. James Cody, but we never got the name, the casting of Bill Campbell as Matt Burke, the school teacher. I felt there was more, it's kind of like, here, let's give you these characters,

but you get no kind of reference to them. And then we're supposed to kind of feel bad if something happens to them, or feel tense if something is hunting them or whatever. But at the same time, he's kind of like, I'm just cheering for the little kid. You know,

leading up to the climax, very different, very different from the book, very different from the, the 79 version, but I will say this, the big plus was the look of Barlow. Yeah, I hear you. I like that. I like that.

It stayed, it stayed, I won't say which source it stayed faithful to, but I really liked it. Overall, the filming, the filming style, if you watch it, you know, I'm married, so I have to watch a lot of Hallmark and Lifetime movies. to create a it felt like Life presents Stephen King's Stalel's line Come on

Come on Mike The feel Lance Do you watch a lot of Hallmark Brian do you want to answer that one? Yes he does Okay So it had that feel

It was like a Hallmark Horror movie But I've never seen a Hallmark movie This gory I'll tell you that Of course Like, I mean, if, like, the good witch was really a good witch, we'd see a bloodbath like Lords of Salem all over the place. But, I mean, if you gave when calls the heart with zombies, I'm all.

But for this one, it's, the, the filming style was very, you can tell they had James Wan influence. And that, I mean, there was a lot of green hues. There's a lot of green to it, which in the filmmaking process, when you, when you pitch a film, you have to tell them which tone. own and that means you have to give them a color scheme. Okay. A little side piece of filmmaking trivia. But overall, I would say,

oh, Brian, are we holding off on the one to tens until the end? Yeah. We'll let everybody give our initial thoughts, then we'll do scores, then we'll jump in spoilers. But otherwise, other than that, overall, it was a, I will say this, it was a good attempt.

Okay. It's a good attempt to That's fair. Recreate something That pretty much You don't need to change the recipe. I like it. That makes sense.

That makes sense. Yeah, and that's pretty much my But I will say this, though, The vampires were scary. The vampires were scary in this one. Again, so it was, Gary Doberman was, I'm glad that they brought that back. they made vampire scary again.

Cool. What did you think, Nez? I didn't think it was scary, but... Well, we have a different level than most. It was all right. Yeah, I liked the little black kid as Mark. I thought he was cool. William Sadler,

death is always good to see him pop up in anything. you sunk my battleship yeah Spencer Trey Clark he played Mark was it Rayerson Mike Ryan uh-huh I like that kid I liked him in everything that he's he's been in almost it was good to see him um the guy that played striker I don't like that actor so I was like yeah okay whatever Derek Meres where was he in this he was Herbert Marston director's cut oh there you go we'll see it later He was vampire number three. I was like, where was Derek Beers at?

I didn't see him in this. And you can't miss that guy. He's tall. Yeah, he's, he'll be Marston. I met him in, uh, at, uh, son of monster belusa a few years ago. Um, and he was he was hella cool just to talk, talk to him. I just threw Friday 13 stuff at him. Um, but, um, I liked what was going on.

It was an hour or two short and watching the original, like right after. I mean, there was so much buildup in that one with so many different stories on them. This one there wasn't. They were just focused on Ben Mears and the vampire stuff. That was it. I mean, it was almost two hours, but it flew by because they threw in so much action and vampires. stuff and everything so and then when all hell was breaking loose at the end and that well i was like what's going on but i liked what was going on and the look of barlow i thought he was awesome at

first i thought it was cg i mean i liked it they just showed him they didn't really show him a lot and i liked how they uh when we see like just his eyes in the top of his head really quick and then he disappears into the dark i liked how they did all that the shot that i loved is um when the two brothers were walking through the woods. Oh, yes, yes. The way they shot that, I mean, maybe I'm sure it was a green screen or whatever, but it looked like, I don't know, man, I got kind of dizzy. I had to rewind it and watch it again.

That scene was really cool. And it was kind of misty and the trees. Yeah. All of a sudden, yeah, yeah, that was cool. I wasn't scared when the little boy was floating around. I was kind of like, mm, all right. Guys, I'll be right back. I mean, he's a restaurant.

All right, but what was going on? I liked it, how it just, they were just trying to hurry and get through it. There was no backstory of some guy cheating or some wife cheating with the other dude. There was no backstory on the Jeffrey Lewis's character that he's in, his character is in it, but they don't really go into it or anything. It was just focused on All right, here's the main characters. Here's the vampire.

And let's throw as much horror as we could in it. I loved, I liked all that. But it lost some points by not, to me, not being scary. So I was kind of like, I mean, because watching the original again, man, that's, like I said earlier, that still scared me. It's 2024. The movies, however many years old, you guys do the math. But I was still scared watching that. This one, it was cool.

I liked it. But I didn't feel scared at all. And then I was happy on how Barlow looked. I thought that was really cool that they didn't really change up much. They didn't try to make him look sexy or anything. So I thought that was really cool. But overall, I'll watch it again because I enjoyed it. all right uh brian

i didn't like it as much as i did the original one but i was entertained throughout this movie um i like some of the changes uh some of the shots you guys brought up look look pretty fucking good uh the cast was all right uh lewis pullman he he was serviceable in my opinion to the role uh yeah that's a good way to put it i do agree uh jordan preston carter as mark uh Petrie, the little kid with the glasses. Favorite character. I just love, yeah. Shout out to Primp.

Just the opening scene where he's trying to do the magic trick and the bully comes up and you think he's just, you think he's just going to get his ass kicked and, no, he fights back. That would have happened to me. I just like the attitude he had throughout the movie. I like that scene because I, guy that he was fighting his crew was there and they all wussed out and didn't do anything yeah they were like you're on your own bait that was um that was straight from the book too yeah oh it was yeah nice but yeah um i i did like the ending i thought i thought it was nice that they they changed it

up from the so it could be a little different from the original um trying to not spoil anything I like the original ending I mean how the original movie began is how it ended This had a This had a very I brought it up before on the show Kids on Bikes

type movie feel to it Sure sure Yeah Had that it feeling Yeah The new one Very very much so Even the house looked like the same house

From it Oh I like that too That the house looks Almost like original house. Mm-hmm. Some of the cast, some of the characters

I did, that's why I asked you, Mike, earlier, were some of these characters, like, combined into one because it kind of felt that way with some characters. I don't know if they're trying to save on time or what. It could be.

Yeah, because they had to, you know, since with the time constraint, like, for example, one of the, in the original, know the secretary at the real estate place wasn't

the doctor's daughter. And the same thing here. It was just a lot of character changes, a lot of... No, Fred Willard and red satin shorts. What's it? A lot of... There was some gender changes.

But other than that, it was just, yeah, there were some characters. left out. Yeah. They have to, right? Yeah, going back to one of my favorite characters in the book and in the original

miniseries was Mike Ryerson. And he was, Spencer Tree Clark, I feel they underused him. Because he's an amazing actor. And I think given more time, even

the little bit that he had was good. But there's a lot more to his character. If you read the book, there's a poem that refers to his character where they call him the Emperor of Ice Cream. And that poem is creepy as shit. Mm-hmm.

That's how they refer to him in his vampire form. But, yeah, but yeah. So, yeah, answer to the question, yeah, they combine some characters because there's tons of them in the book and in the miniseries, but in this one,

They just had to fit them, you know, in their right pigs to move the story along, to move the movie along. Yeah, and also there was some interesting, like, transitions to scenes that I thought were pretty cool. There was one, so the priest was opening the Bible, and then it cut to Spencer Treat William, or Spencer Tree Clark's, Mike Ryerson's character, opening up a peanut butter jelly sandwich, and just little things like that, I thought were interesting. interesting choices. Yeah, the first transition I liked that the one, you know, my wife really liked and pointed out was there was a scene where they were

looking at some kind of a geometric shape and then it transitioned into a stairway. Out of a stairwell. I thought that was pretty dope. Yeah, some good filmmaking, right? Yeah, it had a very good

aesthetic quality to it, especially the scene that brought up with the the what I always call the puppet theater silhouettes like in the candy yeah yes yes yes or like the old Japanese puppet puppets that they did with the you know the cutouts on the sticks and stuff like that yeah see when when Salem's lot did it like this version did it we're like oh my god a lot of people like that but when coppola doing it with Dracula a lot of people just laughed at it and were like this is yeah not not not so cool huh

Yeah, it wasn't appreciating that. But Mark had that trog poster on the wall. Hell yeah, he did. Oh, yeah. He had some good stuff, man. Oh, he knew his B movies and his horror movies for sure. Yeah, he did. Lance, I don't know. I think you weren't here when I said this,

but if you watch the original, uh-huh. In Mark Petrie's room, uh, in the background on his desk, you can see the, the pretty lady mask from Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Oh, wow. Okay.

Yeah, they definitely paid attention to detail then. Yeah, I was thinking when I was watching it too, like, was there any homages? Right, right? Yeah, you always look for those, right? Yeah, and I think that the greatest, the best one was

the look of the vampires. But as far as like any kind of, you know, because they always try to, you know, some of them are really Hammy the way they, like, for instance, one of my favorites was in The Predator, when Jake Busey immediately walks the center stage, goes, I'm Sean Keyes. It's like, okay, so you're Gary Busey's character's son from Predator 2. Yeah, what a surprise.

The way he just had to present it like, the way I heard it was, I'm the guy's son who was killed in Predator 2. Right. Like we couldn't figure that out. Yeah. What a coincidence. He got the same job and the same level clearance as he's dead. And real quick, a little piece of trivia, Gary Buse's character was the one that sent Dutch's team into South America. Hmm. Yeah. Hmm. Well, there you go. Yeah. That's who. And that's, um, that's.

who what's his name was talking to uh apollo creed did you catch christine did you catch christine in this uh-uh they show really quick in a garage really same exact car yeah makes sense right because it was that timeline right so it had those same muscle cars and stuff do you do you guys know like are you familiar with the king verse big time like all the connections yeah and a lot of it ties into dark tower and the emperor of ice cream uh what didn't that show up in like uh insomnia i know that's not like one of his most popular books but i thought that showed up in there and like somewhere in the dark tower too didn't it i could be wrong uh which which uh it was one of the gunslinger books that one drifter guy i thought

so man yeah yeah he kept singing it and um I remember they asked him, like, where do you know that song from? He goes, it's a poem from some town in Maine. Yeah, that's pretty obscure. How obscure can you get, right? Yeah, well, yeah, in a couple of the, in one of the books, I remember when they were talking about some, they're in one of the Stephen King books, and they're like,

yeah, like so-and-so's dog, that St. Bernard, went rabid and killed all those people. I remember that. Yes. One of my favorite ones is in the Tommy Knockers is when that truck driver, they were talking about the weirdest shit they've ever seen. That truck driver was like, yeah, I was going through dairy one time. He's like, and I must have been really tired because I was at a stoplight.

He goes, and I, I swear to God, I looked over at this sewer grate, and he goes, I swear to God, there was a clown looking at me with these big silver dollar eyes. he's like and i just wanted to give the hell out of that town but i just figured i was tired seeing stuff like that he ties it all together really well yeah yeah so salem's lot though does have a lot of good uh um like in another book they say yeah something about when the lot went bad so yeah but it's there's a lot of um a lot of good references now no i didn't see christine though god I didn't watch it again. I didn't either.

Yeah. What you think, Lance? Oh, well, you know, I wasn't expecting much because Brian can attest and I don't know if you guys listen to me talk too much about, you know, anticipating this movie and like getting frustrated and pissed off, right? Because it was taking so fucking long to come out. Because I swear to God, Brian talked about this. during that the darkness episode, right? The one, the Kevin Bacon shitty movie. I swear the first time you said this movie was coming out was in the news on that episode, Brian.

That's how fucking long it's been that we've been expecting this. So honestly, guys, I did not expect much. I thought this was going to be total trash. You know, just like, you know, it's taken that much time. Maybe it's gone through several directors, you know, several writers. They couldn't figure out who was going to act. in it. Maybe somebody got mad because they didn't want to be in it.

So I'm sitting down watching this movie and I'm like, okay, cool, it's finally here. I'm looking forward to seeing it, but I'm prepared to be super disappointed. Nothing could have been further from the truth, guys. The fact that they set this movie in the timeline of

when the book was written, which I didn't catch it first. It took me a couple of minutes before I started, you know, realizing what the cars looked like and And hey, this is actually back in the late 70s when the book was written. And then you got the characters. I wasn't even thinking of that being Bill Pullman's son.

I thought he was well cast. So here's the thing. So it's a tale of two movies for me, right? So like the first half of it, I'm like, okay, this is kind of beat for beat, the book. I'm like, this is the scene I remember. Those are the lines I remember from reading the book. And I'm super excited, you know, the chick you fell in love with, the, the ratchew. tag team, like you guys called him the Van Helsing team that he put together.

Like, this is exactly what I remember. Just keep doing it. Just keep doing it. And then partway through the movie, something changed. And they did something different, which kind of also led to that retro feel. And I kind of loved it. I kind of love what they did. I kind of liked the way they ended it.

The graphics were absolutely amazing. the makeup for Barlow and the other vampires was phenomenal. Yeah, the floating scene in the window that was so iconic of the first movie, maybe not quite as Griffin here and maybe because I knew it was coming. But I was incredibly pleasantly surprised with this movie. And this is one for me that I'm like, okay, that's cool. They put it on Max, but I think this could have had a theatrical run and, you know, been as popular as some other movies.

So very pleasantly surprised is my takeaway from this. I don't have a lot to complain about, guys. Okay. Yeah, y'all ready to jump into scores? See where we, see where we end up on the Richter scale here? Sure. Or take our Rorschach test, or I don't know how to pronounce that, Mike. I never could pronounce that.

Okay. Rorschach. Roar Shats. Okay. The way I figured how to pronounce it, the quick and easy way, was from the Watchman comic book. Okay. What that kid said, how do you say this? And he goes, raw shark.

Just think of raw shark, roarshock. Raw shark. Okay. It's just roar, like roar and shock, roar shock. Roar shock. There you go. All right. I'll never forget that.

What's your score, Mike? I would give this a solid seven. Nice. That's good. Yeah. It's still, it's still Salem's lot. It's still, like I said, the... Yes, it is. Good.

And going back to Brian's formula later, if I see more in the director's cut, then the grade could go higher. Cool. Naz? I'll give it an eight. I didn't hate it. Not as good as the first one.

but I was entertained throughout, so I'll give it a seven. Cool. All right, and I'm actually going to go 8.5. I really love this. One thing I'm going to not disagree with you guys on, but I'm going to say it was a two-hour movie. It was a two-hour movie, right? So you've got to compress some stuff, right?

And I really didn't want a miniseries. I did not want another fucking TV series. right to have to watch six episodes, 10 episodes, whatever. I was happy with it. I thought they compressed it well. I liked the way they twisted the ending. I love the tie-in to the drive-in theme. And eight and a half.

So are we ready for spoilers? This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. you've been fucking warned well

so real quick the original was three hours long Gary Dabberman's cut is also three hours long so hopefully we'll get a two-parter or just one long film

if they could do it with Killers of the Flower Moon and Scarface you know and just give us one three long three hour long shot and I'm all for it well let's not four hours I was going to say let's not Zach Snyder it

Yeah Who wants to start? Spoilers? Yeah I mean it was just vampires Trying to kill you I mean I enjoyed the ending I enjoyed the setting at the movie

The driving theater I liked how they're using their cars as coffins That was cool That was good So Big Kiv there's your There's your start in the beginning started at the drive-in ended at the drive-in. The look of Barlow.

Oh, wow. The look of Barlow was faithful to the 79 version, the Reggie Naldor look, that emaciated, bald, just bestial, nostrils kind of look. Yeah, I love that. Desperate for blood, right? Yeah. I heard a lot of criticisms about the crucifixes, the glowing.

I like that. That's what they did. It's okay. I kind of liked it. I liked the effects it had when they used them on the vampires, how they just kind of flew back. Yeah. Yeah. And that's how they were in the book.

They lit up, like, I remember Stephen King saying one of the favorite parts about the Hobbit was how Frodo's, how Bilbo's sword lit up. up. I was staying blue whenever there was orcs around. So he's like I borrowed from that. But yeah, man, that's pretty much the only spoiler I had.

If you've seen all the other versions that read the book, there's really not much to spoil. Not much to spoil, you know? Is it anything you want to talk about? I like the scene when Barlow was standing on top of the snack bar at the drive-in.

the way he looked it was all dark and it was just the backlight of um the projection light that was coming out and he was just standing there looking down at mark i thought that was that was pretty sweet um i didn't like how mark kept getting away when the the uh the driving screen fell on top of the cars and barlow was just jamming his arm through there trying to grab him i was like come on really yeah a little little hard hard to believe right yeah i was like come on you could have easily gotten him. We could just jump down there and got him. But I don't know. That was my only gripe about that part. But as far as on how he looked, I thought that was really cool. And the stake through the back of the head and then the camera shot and we see.

Oh, that was nice. Yeah. I thought that was pretty sweet. And then jamming the sign into to Barlow, because in the original one, they staked them in the coffin. So I liked it. They had a big battle with him before they actually killed him. So I thought that was really cool on what they did that, how they changed that. But the look, I mean, I love that they kept the two teeth in the middle again. I liked how they kept that look. I mean, but yeah, there wasn't much to spoil.

It was just vampires trying to kill everybody, and these two save the day. And I don't know, I never again, everyone I don't read in the book, like in the original film, how David Sol's character and What's his Nuts were in, where were they, Mexico in the beginning of that one? Guatemala. Guatemala. And then at the end, so they basically, they, basically, they

teamed up to kill vampires. Was that in the book or was that just the movie? No, that was in the book too. They were, um, they lived in this village and Susan, uh, well actually nobody found him because in the original member, uh, Bonnie

Bedelia found him. Oh. And then in the book, um, he killed her, uh, the same way he did in the, in the, in this one. He staked her on the, uh, on the pool table. Um, because I

Remember, you got to do what you're going to do. The description where Stephen King was like, she screamed an unearthly scream and her arched back, her back arched at an unheavenly fold. And her mouth opened harder than, or bigger than anybody's mouth could open with a stream of black blood, heart's blood shot from her mouth. And I think that's verbatim. That paints a, paints a picture, doesn't it? Yeah.

And then this one, like when she, when the blood came. came out of her mouth, it was black. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. True, true to this story. One of my favorite lines in this version was when they pulled up to the teacher's house and they're like, we should go get him. And he's like, no, he's already dead. How do you know? And he was because there's vampires on the roof of that house. Yeah, that was a good shot. Yeah, that was a great shot. Yeah. You see their eyes going with that love that. You know what? Seven and a half. Nice. There was way more vampires in this one than there was in the, in the original one.

Yeah, I like Yeah, and there are in the book. I like how you get that shot of the just the town was just empty and you knew everybody was already turned. Yeah. Mike, you got that in the book, right? And that, that desperation, like the entire town was turned into vampires.

I got like almost to feel like a zombie apocalypse type thing when I was reading it the second time. Salem's Lie? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was just, it was cool the way that the way the descriptions like when that one lady was sitting at home and she was like i'm not you know i'm not i took to sleeping in the living room with my bible because i don't know what's going on to this town she goes but late at night you can hear footsteps running around outside

yeah super creepy book that kind of just just like that one the line from shirley jackson's the house on haunted hill is that one line that says as whatever walked in that house walked alone. And it was like, Jesus Christ. I mean, that's the Marston house is like that. If you ever read the book, there's a short story in the book, Night Shift. Stephen King, Night Shift. And the first story is Jerusalem's lot.

And it talks about the Marston House. And it's written in a series of letters. Like these two guys are writing to each other. but it's really a good story. That one and the one I said, the follow up to Salem's lot, they're both in that book. But

as far as like, you know, the feeling of it, yeah, it did, the filmmakers did pay good attention to retro. Retro, I like when movies have fun with retro shit, like in the conjuring.

When, when, you know, know it's set in the 70s and that one assistant hands uh what's ed warren that video that big ass video camera is like oh man this is so light yeah exactly that was yeah kind of like a little in in joke for you filmmakers but it's it's like this one it was cool to have like you know like have uh bill pull uh lewis pullman rock the sideburns and uh the corduroy jacket.

Oh, yeah, got the look going. That was probably a good nod to David Sol. He just needed those leather patches. Right. I guess they had the same car in the original that he was driving. No, in the original he had a Jeep. What was it? In the book.

Oh, it was the book? Did he had that car? In the book, he had that same car. Yeah, that modeled the car. And then Susan, Susan had that Mustang. So those two stayed Stay pretty faithful But I thought like

One of the most impactful scenes in the original Was when Barlow kills Mark's parents And then when Mark, when the priest tells him Go, run And then Mark Petrie looks at Barlow And he's like, I'm going to kill you Yeah, I'm going to come back and get you Yeah, but when he said, yep, I'm going to kill you

But that was one of my favorite scenes The original was James Mason throw away the cross, face the master, faith against faith. Yeah, but when, oh, another scene in this one that was kick-ass was when he was holding the crucifix at Barlow and it just went out. Barlow just put it out.

Yeah, I liked how Mark, like in the original one, when it was a Danny that came in and was trying to get him, and he backed up to that little, his little play thing, and then he grabbed the cross off of it, and then he held it to him, and then it went over like how they did. They did it again,

and this one I thought that was cool. But what did you give it, Lance? Eight and a half, man. Okay. This is up there for me. I would have been seven with the movie, but that extra point was because of Gordon Lightfoot. With his song Sundown.

That was a great pick. All the songs of this were good. That song reminds me of my dad and driving to Arizona. I mean, back when, maybe not when it was brand new, but listening to that song. And I have not heard that song in years, but it took me back to a young Niz driving in the yellow cozy car. Remember that, Mike? But yeah, that song, man. I'm hoping Gordon Whitefoot's getting.

getting his money because I'm sure a lot of you knew Jacks like Metallica. Hopefully he's going to get that Metallica money that they got for Master Puppets for Stranger Things. Stranger things, sure, sure. But this song's sundown

I loved it. Gordon Lifewood died though. So hopefully his family's getting it, yeah. Well, did Death Angel ever get paid for Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3? They eventually did. they didn't they didn't in the beginning because i remember you told them that

they were like what later on they had to fight for it it's all it's all because of naz he said it in motion i don't know it was because of me but yeah they um they're getting it now they didn't before i think it was different times you can just grab songs you guys know that and then everything but yeah we got

we got popped all right well here on the east coast guys it's It's almost sun up. That's all I was about to say. It's like four of the morning where you're at. I'm going to burn when the sun hits me. But hey, I know I came in late, but Mike, you said something about smudging reissue, right? I'm rewriting it.

Yeah. So I don't know what that means. When you say rewriting, like a whole new movie or just like expanded or what's going on? I'm going to I'm going to remake it The bigger budget With a bigger budget That's always helpful

I'm sure that always helps right But I mean My films By a podcaster named Johnny Jay Who talks for a tribe called Geek She publicly referred to my films as the smudging verse Oh damn Okay

I'm trying to find a way to connect them on That makes sense. That makes sense. But real quick before you sign up, I wanted to see, would you guys be interested, you, Nez, Brian, and Lance, would you guys be interested in doing a Zoom screening of First Voice? When? Just let me know when you guys have time. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think, I think this hurricane is just about past, so I should be open. Okay, Kev, you organize it.

Just let me know when. And then if you guys, okay, let's make this more fun. You guys get to invite one person. Okay. So if you know another podcaster or someone that you think would be interested. Bill. You know, Zisu. Definitely Zisu.

Oh, he doesn't do horror, huh? No, he's garbage. Yeah, he just follows NBA. And Big Brother. Salt and Pepper songs, and that's it. You don't watch horror movies. I'm going to get him to watch a couple scenes from the Terrifier movies because he does not do blood. He does not do blood and guts.

You're going to kill him, dude. I want to show him the yoga scene in a violent nature. Oh, yeah, violent nature. I want to show him that. That movie was up to the challenge. That movie was so good. That was hell of good. Then they're making a sequel.

Actually, a prequel. I hope not. A prequel, because... I don't want to see it, man. I'll see it, but I don't want it. We're going to see what happened to those Rangers. Okay. And why he got buried the first time.

But, yeah, get a time together and let me know, because I would really... It'd be an honor if you guys at the horror returns. Yeah. All right. Well, we're in. So as always, I want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas.

You know where to reach us, thehorrorreturns.com. Next week, we're going to keep Halloween month going all-hallow's Eve. And speaking of Art the Clown, all-Hallows-Eve, right? But a different Art the Clown, right? This is a different actor. I don't know. We'll figure it out. Brian, who plays Art the Clown and All Howl's Eve, or do you know?

Some other guy. Not David Howard Thornton. Okay, cool. But definitely David Howard Thornton and Terror Fire 3. So, Nez, until the horror returns again. Good night.