The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #440: Halloween 5: The Revenge Of Michael Myers (1989) Commentary

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

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He's not here today. But we're going to do a commentary on Halloween 5. That's one of the Halloweens. I don't know which one. But we'll figure it out. joining me today is our buddy tovaris ellis man how's it going pimper shit man it's going good it's going good man thank y'all for having me um hey um i love october man you know football baseball you know the astro's not in there you know got exciting world

series and you got more moves so perfect month perfect month that's true although i did do some work for a guy who uh played for the astros and played for the uh world series champion rangers uh i think he's on a different team now his name is uh rob grossman i did some work for his dad and he came over and we hung out for a little bit it was pretty cool okay he still playing or he he retired yeah no he's still playing for another year or two i think I can't remember what team he's on at the moment. Royals or some shit. But yeah, he played on the Rangers when they won the World Series.

And he was on the Astros for a little bit. Good guy. Okay. Okay. We use in the presence of the champion. There you go. I'm telling you, man. Not every day you get to meet a major leaguer.

Hey, I met Trevor Bauer one time. It didn't work for him when he was very, very young. Like before anybody knew who the hell he was. was that before he was drafted or uh that was after he was drafted but before he started playing in the MLB yeah he was living in okay for a little bit okay okay well tovaris we'll start with you man what's the coolest thing you've seen this week man the coolest thing i've seen this week well it was actually a rewatch um you ever seen that movie the Skeleton Key?

Yeah. It's been a long time. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a long time since I watched this movie, but I had rewatched it and I did a review on it and when I was rewatching it, I didn't think that movie was still creep me out. Because

that movie, I remember, me and my wife saw it, you know, it was I don't know, I just found it very, very creepy with the whole hoodoo stuff because in the movie they say, like, if you don't believe it, within none of it will happen to you. And it is,

this character, she starts off, she starts off not believing in the stuff. And then she ended up believing it. And then when the shit started hitting the fan, she was trying not to believe. You know, and, um, and it's just the whole body swapping thing, you know, trading your soul and your conscience into somebody else's body.

You know, that right there, man. It, it, it creeps me out because it seemed like it's some real stuff that, probably does go on in this world, you know? So that's why I was like, damn, man. And that movie, I remember, we have the DVD to it. And I always play like a movie or a show before I go to bed. It's like my, it's like, D.D.

For that move off, you know, go to the home screen and the home screen, man, like we would wake up. And it's like you hear all this music. It sounds like demonic chants and stuff. And I didn't realize. it did that because I was still sleeping but then my wife was like hey you can't play that movie no more you cannot play that movie no more unless it's in the daytime because I don't like waking up hearing that demonic stuff it gets slid on yeah yeah you can't just leave that on and I was like

oh damn I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry you know so never going to do that again but but yeah that it's it came out in 2005 and after watching it almost 20 years later I still have that that feel for it, it still has that creepiness to me as if I just saw it almost 20 years ago. So that was one of my cool other weeks. And, of course, NBA season is back. So Rockets basketball, you know, I got to watch that. And, you know, since the Texans are winning, I got to watch them too. So that's my cool of the week right now.

Oh, my Cowboys are not. So I think I'm officially a Texans fan this year. Actually, you know who I'm rooting for? The fucking lions. Yeah, you know what? Lions are killing it. That's a good story, man. It's a good story.

What are they like, what? Five and two? Something. I don't know what their record is, but they're tearing motherfuckers up. I know they gave the Vikings me first L, so that's what I'm like, oh, okay. Shoot, they saw something serious, man.

They something serious, man. They something serious, man. Yeah. And I like Dan Campbell, man. I like Dan Campbell. Yeah. But I want them to do it except for when they play things. Yeah.

All right. Brian, what you got? I don't have a lot. I'm still catching up on my 31 days. I don't believe you. Okay. I have one movie. It's not a 20-24 release, so I can.

talk about it and it actually be posting on our page that I was watching it lost us a listener oh the movie did yeah there's okay there's a group of streamers called phase clan they're like gamers and streamers okay and one of them his name is phase rug he did a he did a movie with the director of one of the paranormal activity movies it basically if you took one of his YouTube videos and made it into a paranormal activity movie. That's his movie. I gotcha.

And apparently me watching this movie, which I didn't pay for, watched it completely free, and supporting Faye's Clan, who were a bunch of scammers. Therefore, that person said they will not be following us on social media no more. Oh, wait, because you watched it? I just, I was so figured it was because you were going to say it sucked.

No, because I watched it, therefore I'm supporting them. Okay. Didn't ask my opinion on the movie. Just said automatic unfollow, which the movie was horrible. Wow. And it was directed by... I can't remember the director's name, but he probably did, I would say, it was probably the worst movie out of the franchise of paranormal activity.

the ghost dimension. Oh, yeah. For sure. Okay. Yeah, it's just a YouTuber who's getting pranked or thinks he's getting pranked and then weird, strange stuff

happens and there's a lot of paranormal activity shots of camera staring at an empty room and I guess you're supposed to be looking to see if anything's moving in the background. Yeah. Yeah. Not a terrible idea for a movie, but

yeah for an hour and 20 minutes it it felt like three hours and 20 minutes watching out skinnernery that that's too long for that that's too long so sorry it's a 30 minutes but yeah that's too long yeah sorry you had to unfollow us maybe if you would ask my opinion on the movie you would have thought different but too bad hey got to watch what we got to watch right Uh, was that all you got or you still go some more? Everything is going to be talked about when me and Lance do our recap for 31. Okay. All right.

I finally checked out the second Winnie the Poo, Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey Honey movie. Um, I think it's on Peacock or something. Yeah. Yeah. Not terrible. See, this is, this is why you and me are, kind of connected on this show.

Because Lance talked about it on a recap and he was like, I thought, I think you said I was supposed to be impressed with the upgrades they did from the first movie. And I was like, are you? Overall, a better movie.

He was completely not impressed with none of the upgrades. Yeah, no, they had some they had some interesting kills. The characters were a little bit more interesting. I mean, it wasn't a good movie by any means, but it was like head and shoulders above that

first garbage thing they came out with. So I can't complain too much. I watched it all the way through and I kind of want more. Like I sort of want to watch that Mickey Mouse movie, but it looks like it sucks too. You can skip that one

but wait for the David Howard Thornton. Oh. Yeah, he's doing I think it's called Steamboat Willie or something like that. Sold. That sounds way better. He's playing the Mickey Mouse character. Okay, that makes more sense.

Because this Mickey Mouse one that I saw in the previews was like, all right, well, it's a serious, it's fucking dead mouse who kills people. It's not like, it's just a guy with a Mickey Mouse head. It's not, but, uh, no, I. Is it somebody with a Winnie to Pooh mask or is it an actual? No, they actually... It's a bear. Yeah, they actually have a backstory with this one.

And so they sort of tie the first one into it. I don't know if you've seen it at all. Worth a watch, if you haven't seen it, it's insane. I mean, it's terrible, but it's fun. Tomarice, I feel like if you watch them, you're definitely going to drop some reviews on them. Yeah. Okay, okay.

But then the second one was not bad. man it's got like an actual backstory and like some actual special effects and then they even do some callbacks to the first movie and like tried to make that make sense even though it doesn't at all yeah i would i would compare them only in this way don't anybody get mad to the terror fire movies where the more money the movie makes the bigger the budget's going to get yeah so i would suspect the next one which there's going to be a next one because they're building like this whole thing they called it the twisted childhood fantasy universe where they're having other fairy tale characters yeah they had a lot of drawings at the end like a horrified

like pinocchio and shit yeah they're supposed to be a pinocchio one uh alice in wonderland a bambi what's the bambi there's a little teaser trailer it looks hilarious I bet and there's going to be some other ones I didn't love all the characters I thought they could have done more with Tigger

but the owl character was pretty cool it was just an upgraded version of this stupid movie but it was like watchable and so can't complain Lance saw zero upgrade

upgrades. Oh, well, it was definitely upgrades. Okay. Okay, so that came out this year, the second winning the Pooh movie? Yeah. I think so, yeah. I think earlier this year. Okay.

Now you said Bambi, so is that, does that, is that Bambi trailer, is that related to like the Bambi trailer that the Rock did like a couple years ago? Or is it something? completely different the rock okay okay I didn't know that baby's revenge is like that's I'm like okay but I didn't know if it was real or fool for what so baby with the rock I like it all right well I guess that's it let's go ahead and start the commentary we'll make this happened Halloween 5 what is it with the revenge of Michael Myers is that what it called? Yes.

All right. Yeah the revenge of Michael Myers Michael Michael without any further ado let me see if I can't get the screen share going

fuck I can't remember how to do this I better than we try when we try to do it without you at the bottom right share where it says share screen yeah there it is share screen ding ding ding all right yeah we are doing Halloween 5 the Revenge of Michael Myers which came out

1989 was directed by Dominique Othorin Gerard I think oh thank you for unfucking my non-research This stars Donald Pleasance, Daniel Harris, Ella Cornell, Bowstar Wendy Kaplan, and Tamara Glenn. Okay. You guys see what I can see here? Yes. Yes. All right. Okay. We're at 0-00 at 1 hour and 36 minutes and 58 seconds in case in case you guys happen to run.

across the same version of this movie if you want to follow along with this but we're going to start in three two and one and we'll adjust for audio and other shittiness along the way can we all see what's happening yes yes okay we're probably going to have a little black square on the top because that's where my Skype is and I can't get it to go anywhere but that's okay because we can't share this shit on YouTube anyway YouTube still tripping band stitching always you put a text that was used

in another video demonetized Wendy Kaplan and wanted us to make sure we knew that Wendy Kaplan played Tina probably should have rewatch for you think it matters

when they say money Kaplan as Tina okay I just remember Daniel Harris is supposed to be Lori Strode's daughter yeah

yeah well you know Lori you know she she doesn't think he'd play done after all she claimed the daughter in the last one so I guess Is this whole opening just scary carving of pumpkins?

This is very aggressive carving. Oh, right? Yeah, it is. It's like, is that a womb? Oh, it's inside of a pumpkin. Oh, I don't. It's like that. I don't think I like this version of the song.

Okay, I remember now. It's very possible I've never seen this movie. Well, we didn't keep commentary on it last year. Oh, the same movie? Yeah. I heard part of the fourth. Yeah, I'm like it's, I've probably seen them all, but I can't guarantee it. Yeah, you were there last year.

It's wild. I didn't start getting scared of these movies here until he started chasing his niece. Because I'm like, Michael didn't go after little children. But as I saw he was going after his niece, shit, that scared me. So I think I was about, I was about Jamie's age when I first saw this move. Get down. They really should have had sports in that hard. Yeah, the sheriff.

Get out! Yeah. Your owner would have been like, man, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't kill the predator. Michael was nothing. He ain't on my level. I know. We see how he likes it when I hide in the mud. That was terrible.

No, no, no. I gotta do that one again. At some point. Not right now. They all should have wig down here, man. The little girl definitely looks familiar. I think I've seen this. She wasn't a lot of movies in the 90s. Oh, you know what else I watched as a cool of the week? It's a new one on Netflix about a girl who can't move. I can't remember the name of it. I think it's don't move or something.

Yeah. Oh, okay, okay. She does this number here. Floats down the river. Yeah. Bad movie. It was pretty decent. Yeah, I'm not going to have to check that out.

I mean, it wasn't awesome, but it was worth watching. Good Netflix movie? Yeah. I mean, it's no Bachbuster, but, you know, as a low-level horror movie, or thriller, actually, it does his job kill toki oh no tokey's right there this guy looked like a sailor

I thought he was plus he's got a parrot he has a pipe like papar and Michael is so stealth like even after getting shot like 150 times he's just so stealth I know he's like a big retarded ninja yeah I mean

that was like took me Man, Tuckie didn't even hear him, man. Like, you know, it's proved so graceful. One year later. Hell, a brain scan set up. Yeah. Has she done anything now that she's older? Oh, yeah.

She's, like, considered like a scream queen. Hmm. Trying to figure out what I've seen her in. She has a lot of horror movies on her resume. Yeah, she looks super familiar. She gets stuck part of a few TV shows, too. Like, she used a few episodes of Boy Me's Revenue. Oh, okay.

Roseanne. She might have been on Full House before, too, probably. I gotcha. Yeah, she's in the Rob Zombie remake. Yeah, okay. All right, so I've seen her in a bunch of stuff. Yeah. Have you seen the Hatchet movies?

Some of them. Yeah, she's in some of those, too. psychic connection. Oh, this is where they start with the cult stuff. I was going to ask what the tattoo's about. Yeah, tattoo magically appears. Let's see that tattoo in any other movies. Previous ones.

See, if they would have built something off the original ending of four, because four is where they take her back to her foster home and she murders the foster mom. Yeah. And she's got the little clown mask on. Oh. They try to bring it back to that Halloween, whichever the one where they did

that didn't involve fucking Michael Myers at all. Yeah, she had supposed to have taken over for the fifth movie. But you had a divide to her most of the studio. She'd take over, but what are you supposed to do the bike? Yeah. Mike, that's messed up. The guy put you up for a whole year.

I'm saying. He's a pirate murderer. What a nice pirate he was, too. So is he going to take the parrot with him now? Yeah. It'd be pretty menacing. Michael Myers with a parrot on his shoulder. Hey, you know what? The parrot would be his voice. Yeah. There you go. There you go. And it just throws people off. They'd be like, is that a bird?

He should really throw people off and just down the whole outfit with the little sailor hat and everything. Plot twist. He actually did want to be Captain Kirk all along. He's just trying to clap some alien cheeks. Donald Pleasance really went all in. That's Dr. Loomis. I give him that man. Yes, he did.

There's Tina. that's that's that's Rachel oh Rachel oh Tina's the friend yeah yeah Tina wasn't in the last one they brought Tina you know this one here so I wonder the way they featured her in the credits

maybe this is Tina's first movie maybe maybe this is the first thing I got well this might have been the only thing I seen her in and there she goes that's Tina with the Doberman Yep. She's very hot. I got to say, Oberman's not bad either.

She's so happy to see Tina, even though she wasn't even in the last movie. I know, right? I think I'd be done dressing up in costumes and Halloween after past year's events. When people start getting murdered and shit, sort of sours the spirit.

And Dr. Lovis is always there to remind you so you can't use the excuse that you've forgotten what happened last year two days yeah how did the window go up that wasn't a nice note yeah i know i would be writing notes to the niece of michael meyers also how would they know yeah small town where this around i mean i guess you know i typically take the advice of bricks that are thrown through my window you know um dr loebis probably told everybody to town if they didn't know prior to that's true

you know you think about it he got to go to grocery store and shop you know what do you think he's talking about the grocery store can't keep his drunken midwestern mouth shut yeah I really love this

oh geez also my niece is the daughter of Michael Myers he's gonna fucking murder everybody listen to the dog listen to the dog Rachel, you should know better. Didn't see this guy? I know, right?

He's breathing loud enough. No shit, let the dog go. You have the dog. Exactly. Got obey with those signs. Say, Rachel. Dog gave you the biggest sign that you could ever see.

I don't want to go inside and take my pants off. Yeah. I want to have a life. I'm now worried. I understand. Well, she just lifted her shirt on the way up

the stairs for no good reason and I'm not mad at it. Well, you know, the director said that would have added something to the story. I know so many people that had a door like that. I had a door like that. Max staying in no business. Well, she's got some tan lines you can see through the shower curtain. That's not bad. I like how she's.

again with the past years events she's not taking anything seriously yeah it was just one year ago he's like oh yeah my dog's been freaking out all fucking morning and now he's just totally quiet so nothing's wrong at all and he's right behind you man her woman

what is it her woman's intuition sucks he's right behind you right behind you well she had to spend so much time holding that towel up with her nipples. Dr. Lugan shouldn't have to tell you that. She'd get up out of there.

I can't believe she actually left with the towel on. Michael Likes, are you not going to change? Her neighbor just happens to be on gardening. This is how I always dreamed it would happen. What were those goofy squeaking sounds? are we supposed to are we supposed to is that a cat

is that a toy so I'm assuming those sound effects that keep playing these are bubbling cops yeah they got two dooys well you know what they're not even at least Dewey did a little bit of detective work for me but them them too

there man stay out of my room while I'm vacuuming. Handling this child, Loomis. No kidding. And the guy wears gloves all the times. Is that a weird? I don't think you can trust the guy that wears gloves all the time. I used to always think he was like a detective man. It wasn't a type of dope that I realized. I'm like, oh, he was a doctor. But I thought he was a detective or something. Where is the staff?

Seems a little more like a mad scientist. Yeah. Yeah, Michael was like his Frankenstein. Yeah, where are the staff? Traumatizer a little bit more, Lemus. She's still totally happy. Look at her. Yeah. I'm naked again.

Yeah, nothing could possibly go wrong. What is that woman's intuition kicking in? He's right there. That's not a big closet, man. Come on now. What is it going to kick in? this version of the mask is awful that's what I was going to say man that flare at the bottom is terrible

like because on most of the Halloween movies you see Michael Myers's face as the mask yeah and in this one it's like a dude wearing a mask yeah that mask is very very loose get out that window well now you're freaking out

totally fine when he was in the house with he why is he outside the house that's a good question you kick the dog out for him doing his job oh man another question do you have like any clothes at all she just got the sweater on yeah that's it oh and some panties i can see the lines well that's not alarming that's a weak-ass kill I'm sorry yeah do you remember his daughter was the

chick that wore the shirt that says cops do it by the book yeah the night when you offered my the night when I offered my let me show you something maybe you should put them gloves back on yeah let's not continue that conversation

told you so he said sheriff we need you down not loomis lemus let me say uh well i'm something like to sheriff around here somebody knows michael more than me you're just gonna tease max like that and I run off about five minutes too late tita yeah I looked her up for them to feature her name and the credits she pretty much did nothing of note after this okay okay yeah Yeah, because she doesn't look familiar at all.

And, like, I am really shitty with names, but I'm pretty good with faces. Yeah. Rachel's gone. Oh, well, she was expected Rachel to be gone anyway? Okay. What year did this movie come out? 89. 89.

That is an interesting style she's got going there. I guess it's a little bit Madonna, though. That kind of makes sense. Yeah. Let you see, Rachel. Is Rachel's intuition kick it in? She's seeing visions. Something bad happened here.

Well, it almost was. And then the pizza shut up. Yeah. Now it's time to leave. Son of a bitch. Where's my pizza? Oh, wow. Everybody can just sneak in this house, huh?

After what happened last year. Yeah, after what happened last year, you know, you thought they would have enhanced secure. or something. Yeah. Some kind of sensors or something. Like, how did that bitch even get in? Yeah. Like, she wasn't, we didn't see her

in part four. Like, these new people just, and Tina knew where the key was. She just went right by the dog. I'm gonna sneak in the back door here. Yeah, Max, like, damn, man. Like, doing my job, but y'all won't listen. She never got Max any water. Nope.

That's also true. Terrible. Never had a Doberman. They're pretty dogs, though. Yeah. Had a Rottweiler. He was awesome. One of my best dogs ever.

150 pounds of sweetness. Oh. Yeah, we had one when I was younger. Yeah. Let me see. We had them about four, about four or five years. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I think what happened was, you know, is the kids got older, you know, the dog, you know, folks is like, yeah, this dog is like feeding another kid, so. Oh, yeah, understandable. Sad leopard sheets. Okay. I'd try it. And what kind of stuff is that, man? Oh, you just offering Rachel's house.

Okay. Is that Michael on the back? Yeah. Man, Michael probably like, God damn, but are these chicks blind? Like, they don't see me? It's like that Guyco commercial where they're like behind the chainsawes.

Yeah. I'm not going to acknowledge my presence, huh? I don't exist. That's my favorite one, like buy a lot. Like he was right there just straight up staring at him. He's like, yeah, I wouldn't. to be like the Fons but actually I'm a lawyer oh Mikey okay yeah Michael not gonna like that there's only one Michael in this movie that a Mustang

think so interesting looks like it yeah well they have a saying we'll get it closer I don't when I see that scene I don't think oh shit there's Michael Myers I think oh shit there's a guy in a Michael Myers mask yeah Once again, where's the staff? It should be Christopher walking. He comes in and takes the mask off. Just here for the Halloween party. Is that a steam pipe?

Oh no, did I get the wrong house again? This hospital hang dries their sheets. I was just trying to cut swatches for my... swatches for my costume. Not one employee in this hospital. Son of a bitch. That's the same guy. You just had a mask on. You're not pulling anybody. Yeah, right. Molest you fuck. Yeah, right. Look it all over for you. Damn, it's Loomis again. The creepy guy with the weird face, it won't limit to fuck along. Why is this hospital allowing you to come in here and shake and yell at this child?

Yeah, this seems very against policy. You too close. Get your hands off the little girl. Mm-hmm. She can hear you a mile away, bro. How much do you need to see before you say something? Yeah.

Yeah, Jamie. Stop crying. Man up. Yeah, he's just all in her face, man. That's too close. Oh, back. A poll member. That should have made the front page news and the Haddonfield post.

Is Dr. Loomis the bad guy in this fucking movie? What is going on? Yeah. Hey, you could make a good, you could make a good, decent argument for it. Because he's totally creeping me out so far. Like, he's more to a threat to Jamie than Michael, all up in a face. Like, back up, man. Sometimes it's like he's jealous of the connection that she has with Michael, because He doesn't have that connection with him.

That's true. That's... That's why he's like... Very good point. Why he has his hold over you. He doesn't answer me. He doesn't talk to me. I showed him my penis for years.

He didn't do anything. Why would he be in there? That's a good question. You're going to jump up out at you? Man, can you imagine if back then, if like Dr. Loebus, I could see like Dr. Loebis, like if they had podcasts back there, I could see him recorded his podcast in Michael Myers' house. He's going to return here one day. I'm going to be here. And then he'll hopefully he'll answer me. He'll say something. Some clunky-ass gloves. You can get that finger in the trigger?

Do you think they would, do you think they still wouldn't have this house up? And that house would have been, would have bulldozed that house down. And there's still an unlocked safe. But, you know, I guess the house probably didn't get tore down or anything because you've got the people like that being black and that whole coat. So they probably figure out ways to keep it up. Probably got people in high-power positions or something as part of that coat or something. Probably got that house for the low too.

Yeah. Mike is really just out here hiding in a broad daylight. I'm saying. It's wild. They don't see Michael standing at them. He's just 10 feet away from him. That looks like the, uh, progressive guy.

It might be his older brother or something. That was his first job. There you go. We all got to start somewhere. Yeah, bro. I'm totally a teenager with my receding hairline. How old is he supposed to be if he's going to get high blood pressure? I know. He's not. This guy had a drive. Yeah, he's definitely one of those dudes. He's probably about like seven or eight years out of high school.

You can finally get the car he wanted. Now you go back and impress the young chicks. Seven or eight years? 10, 20. Hey, when did happy days, golf air? Yeah. Scratch my motherfucking car. You want to play. Well, keep swinging.

What are you doing? For real. Definitely keep swinging. Swink, swing, swing. I'll talk, Mikey. Man. You got him in the reset button and knocked his hairpiece off. Man.

Yeah, I never understood why he started off with that wide swing, man. You just leave yourself wild and just go straight with it. Where did all these kids come from? I know, right? I guess the staff, they took the day off early on the day so they can be there for the Halloween party. She can't talk and he stutters. Yeah. He says enough syllables for the both of them.

You know what? They should have had, if Tookie wasn't going to be with Michael, they should have had Tookie with her, man. He would have been useful. He could communicate what she's saying. What he's saying, too. This kid's moving a little too fast. I know, right?

He gave her flowers and jewelry. He already got a kiss, too, man. Not bad. So Michael Myers has steel-toed cowboy boots in a duster? No, this is the guy that got up the bus. Oh, that's right. right okay he says the same tattoo you know they're a part of that cold yeah but they've been talking about the whole series not sure if that costume makes a whole lot of sense but yeah i'm

i was gonna say i don't know what she's supposed to be but i like it michael going on his first date we can't kill her she's trying to get your pants yeah for real she should know that's not her michael i mean he's obviously a lot to be bigger than you. That goes that women's intuition again. Yeah, she's kind of been asking a dive since the beginning. The new look, you mean like the

additional six inches in height? Extra 20 to 30 pounds. Well, that was Michael's first kiss. What kind of children's hospital is this? It was weird. I think it's like, what you call it? Like, no, it's not a psychiatric war in the hospital.

Oh no. Huh. If that's some, even a woman can break some of Michael Myers wheel. Damn, man, like this Michael Myers, you know. Boy like Michael Myers, but she got him to stop and go so she can go get them cigarettes. You know what, Tina, you know what? I give her props though, because Tina and Buster Arms, those are only two people who have gotten away with busting at Michael Myers and then he,

ended up doing what they told him to do. Like for real. She says, stop so I can go get my cigarettes. The stuttering kid is her translator. Yeah. Big cookie tits. Oh, he does it. He knows that sign.

That's where he goes when it's lonely and there's no speeders. Don't put that mask on. horrible Michael Myers mask. How do they think of this? Yeah, they don't see him right there? Is Tina have a record? She probably does. Probably.

That's probably why we didn't see in the fourth one. Because she's a hooker. Yeah. They identified her quickly. You are Tina Williams. It's almost like they treat Michael Myers in this movie. Like they treated Bruce Willis in the sixth sense. Like, yeah.

Like all these cops pull up. You're not worried about the car that Tina got out of like she was supposed to be in danger. He put the Michael Myers mask on to let you know that, hey, that's, it's me, Michael. Yeah, the weird guy in the mask and windows that aren't tended at all. Yeah. I'm the dude that I didn't kill at least one of y'all family members last year, at least one of y'all family members in this time. Jamie can talk now. She's too young for that talk.

but the cops just came and got you you still need to go okay well that is Rachel's friend and we all saw how nonchiala she was yeah yeah because nothing happened last Halloween huh Tina obviously

well she knows the goofy cops they are Pacemires tore that whole time up last year let's see good night. Let's send our worst cops out there. They don't have their sound effects.

Like the Saturday Live version of chips. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, for real. You're bringing the cops to the party? I don't understand this. He knows what Jamie is, but he's going after Tina.

Yeah. Well, you know, Tina, you know, Tina bossed him around, so, you know, he got to get his get back. You know, he don't like it when the females be talking that ish to him. He was like, I told you. Like, if you remember the first one, when he drove by, let me see, when Lori and Annie, when they was walking, you know, Andy started talking that ish. And then he turned around and he backed that car.

He like, what? Like, okay. And that's when he started following her. It's like, all right, I'm going to come see you. I got to say Tina's pretty cute. Out of feature in the credits, too. Yeah. And it was really trying to make her a star.

But, hey, didn't see anything else after this movie. Is this the second guy in the movie looking at a pimple in the mirror? What the hell are we doing? Yeah. It seems like a weird reoccur thing. That's what. taxpayers dollars going to is got two half deweys a threesome what's going on i don't know but that balding cowboy is happy really tina okay seems like a really good way to get shot

he said at least he's aware at least he's aware tell a lot about a man when he has good self-awareness but yeah he should have been shot on site man they shouldn't even be allowed to sell those masks those masks should be illegal

she say hey we see you walking around with this the shape mask this William Chapman looking mask you're dead on site because of what happened last year just so you're aware you're taking your life into your own hands yeah it should be zero tolerance for that

it's like in the screen movies where that town sells nothing but ghost face mass yeah it's like come on man cat's mind in their own business look at y'all cats like man yeah y'all brought that evil here aren't she supposed to be at a party Tina yeah she left jamie to go chase kittens in a barn well the party doesn't have kittens right there she she kind of reminds me of, um, Agatha. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. It's got like the same shaped face.

Yeah. You know what? That's probably why career didn't flourish the way it was meant to be. You know, along came Catherine Hahn. Yeah. Come on. One is intuition. Get the hell up out of there. You saw that.

That time you saw Michael. Pretty sure we've established she's not great with the intuition thing. Yeah. This is just terrible, though. You know, you see nowadays, you see all these videos. It's a, you know, every woman's superpower. Intuition. I know.

These fake jump scares. Yeah. They're so shitty. And I don't get why she's calling her friends. Like, you know what your friends are doing. You're the third wheel. Go back to the party. Go back to the park.

Yeah, I'm kidding. Okay, now you finally leave. All right. All right, Joe, fuck. Go get it on with your teenager. Yeah, this dude here, he got held back on purpose. He didn't walk that far. He'd been walking in hay.

And in the barn, Michael was so stealth. You never see him coming. That doesn't even look like the right in the mask. I was just going to say I can't get over how bad this mask is. I was going to say, aren't you trying to get some? Yeah, for real. This guy is really stupid. He was like, well, you know, I always wanted to do that.

I just have to do that. This was the perfect moment. That's why he dates teenagers. Yeah. This is the perfect moment. You know, let me imitate the serial killer that terrorized our town a year ago. We've got this dynamic duo right here. Yeah.

Hanzo and Gretel. Better make it quick. You know who that guy is? He's the one from that commercial where they're asking a question and he's got a mouth full of peanut butter and the answer is Aaron Burr. It's who killed Alexander Hamilton. That's him for real? I'm almost 100% short. Yeah.

you know what we go roll with that we got to roll with that we got to google it nothing we're gonna wrong with that i can almost guarantee he looks the part he looks the part i'm afraid if i google it dude probably not going to look like him but far as my memory goes exactly like him Unlike Tina, he did something after this movie. What is this? Cinevacs now? It's a really shitty sex scene.

Dude, I'm telling you that's the guy. He kind of has a Gary Busey thing going on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Mixed with like swamping. Yeah, my. Michael was like oh okay they're having a good time about I'm about to ruins it the open orifices that I could stick this in except that he's still got a pants on somebody

or something crazy but I'm also right run run run run you heard about my right right just staying there all right okay off screen death yeah she she tried to fight me right Just didn't know how to. Okay, maybe it's not the same guy. But they're, they look really fucking face. Oh, you looked it up? Oh, you can't look that up. You go pretend that never happened.

That's the Aaron Burr. Dude, Amber. The only reason I said that is because I looked it up and I was like, oh, wait, that guy's got more hair. Some things don't need to be fact checked. take the fun out of it. It trips me out how quickly everybody just left that party. Like, did they ever find Rachel? So far, not yet. Not yet. She's dead. I think they eventually find her.

Look have I seen that guy. It's going to drive me insane. I looked him up to says he was in Childs Plate 3. Oh, really. He must have been working at that. Let me see. That's the one where Andy was at that boarding school, the military care? Yeah, I think. Maybe he was one of the asshole, military kids. Hey, Greg Nicotero was the guy in the gas station, uncredited. Oh, okay, okay. You must have been doing like the special effects on here.

Yeah, everybody doesn't leave the party that quick. Yep, and not like Dewey, you know, Dewey would have survived that. What was that guy's name in this show? In this movie? Spitz. Spitz. With the Z. Oh.

Oh, all right. Well, no wonder, I didn't recognize him. He's in a weird fucking clown costume. And his IMDB. All right. That guy is a fucking lunatic. And there's a picture of him with Christopher Walken. Bring it back around.

And your intuition sent some sent somehow that Christopher had some type of connection to this had to be Six degrees of Michael Myers. Yeah.

Okay, so he's been in a bunch of shit but he's like not even quite at the level of that guy. Like in the army now he was stoner number two. So we're talking

about the guy who played spitz or are we talking about the actor the guy who played spitz okay i think the erin berg guy just had a similar face and he was younger okay and more hair not to give the guy shit because he's balding i mean you know shit happens what are you gonna do you got thinking of Aaron Burr dude now I'm thinking like I don't know if I remember the movie that people running the stairs character named brooch of Sean Whalen yeah I wonder like he kind of had like a look like Aaron Bird dude but I think he was skinny but I'm not sure what year that here to work commercial came out so it would have been him for the number I just only remember

hear me people on the stairs. That dude was off-roading the shit out of that Mustang. Yeah. Michael's like, this is what this must be what driving what that movie, Christine felt like.

I just left Stutter kid having a seizure. Yeah, for real. Was he Aladdin? He has nothing to do with anything in this movie. I think he was a pirate. Oh, yeah, okay. That makes more sense.

He's a very good friend, man. I ought to find friends like that. That mask takes me out of it. It's like they had everything to get ready to start production, except the mask. And they had to go pick one up real quick. Well, which is fine, but like tuck it into the fucking unit already's got on. Or whatever the hell it's called.

right Tina they hurt to run I think the car hit him huh did the car hit him he's just pretending he has a peg leg he's

hey he really could have used the pirate I mean the the parrot yeah he's a method actor man what are you gonna do yeah

how did he how did he how was he able to sneak up on him? If this movie were to come out today, dude, Loomis would be my prime suspect. Yeah, the only reason why they would rule him out as being the prime suspect is because he's at the hospital loud as hell just telling him about Michael. Michael. He's just a little too weird. Yeah, she died that quick? Man. I was saying she looks like she got stabbed in the shoulder. I thought she was going to make it.

Is that how they transport dead bodies? I know, right? Arms hanging off the edge and shit. Ever since Michael murdered the last set of paramedics, it's hard to get some true professionals out here. Why don't dying this motherfucker up? We're getting out of here. We got out of here so fast. It's been like fucking five minutes. They left quick, too.

Bitch still got a heartbeat. We got our fucking gurney. on a fucking gurney. What are you talking about? See, this is the problem. You cannot introduce some reasoning, backstory like humanity

into this character because that's not what he is. Right. Yeah. Well, maybe if I can just get to him. No, he's a fucking crazy killer maybe not even human.

Yeah, Lou is just throwing out dialogue for him to have for his book, for his novel. You know, because he says, you know, I looked into his eyes and there's the devil's eyes and he, you know, he's not a man. He's evil. It was like, like you say, stop trying to reason with him like he is a man. He's evil. pure evil. Sometimes the world is just better off without some people. Yeah.

You know, just a battle of good versus evil. It's like, hey, you got to take Michael out because he's going to take you out. Kind of surprise this girl didn't do more stuff. Like I remember seeing her a bunch as a kid, but I don't remember seeing her as an adult. Yeah, she, like I remember back in the day, like in the mid-90s or late 90s, she was on Man, was it Oprah or something or whatever? Well, a Monta William show or something where she had like a somebody like a real-eyed stalker coming after her. Oh, really?

Yeah. Yeah. Hollywood. Not the best place for little kids. No, it's not. So look, now he's got the little sign drawn on the wall on the back of his house. They still haven't even touched on the guy that got off the bus. did they? No.

He's just going to wandering around unnoticed, even though he's wandering around the crime scenes. Just like, we can't find anybody in the sound of be cops because everybody keeps dying. These are the only guys dumb enough to do it. I'm gonna stand here with my shotgun pointed in my partner's head.

Yeah. That's how Dick Cheney does it. That's how I do it. That's how I do it. These idiots, Michael, what's I could have left at least three cars there. We're going to just leave the one cop in Loomis to protect the girl. Oh boy.

In Michael's, in Michael's old home. Put an awful lot of trust in that, dude. Be honest, we're just that cop's a little bit creepy too. Yeah. A little bit too close. It's like, hey, man. Yeah. Five seconds too long. I think that car's about to check you out.

His reaction time was slow because he thought it was just Billy Bob, who rear-ended him getting on accident. Because all the cops in this town suck. Yeah. Are they listening to that? He's saying, Eddie, come in. Leave, Charlie. I worry about everything. You know what? At least that's how, like, blockading a door works. Well, they always jam the chair in when the, like, the doors a pull to open thing it drives me insane like that doesn't even do not like think about it

before you jam that under there that doesn't make any sense I think they did a scene like that on one of those the scary movies with the way it's brother's it's it was like wow that that attention to detail was like come on y'all y'all I know you're there. So he keep raising his knife into stabbing the positions. He's like 15 feet away. He's just getting ready. I like to practice my stabbing.

I'm just letting you know I mean business. You're too close. Why are you getting so close, Lewis? He's just walking right up there. Yeah, he could have tucked that mask in. Hey, guy in a Michael Myers mask. Maybe we should put down this fake knife and in the charade. I got to look it up, but I think that's Don Shanks.

I think he's a Native American stunt man. It's just this shitty fucking mask. I think he passed away recently. I don't know. It's like the same mask. It looks so bad. Doesn't even look like the same mask from earlier. I know.

You're right, this Don Shanks. He's still alive so far. Yeah, he's still alive so far. Yeah, he is. Sorry, Don. Yeah. We're not trying to kill you, I promise. Come on the show, we'll hang out.

At least this cop trying to do something. That didn't work. Not sure exactly what he was trying to do, but it definitely didn't work. He's like, man, let me get this little girl out of here. Where do you get this fucking grappling hook set up? Maybe that's what he was making. Fucking window. Oh, you got a gun the whole time?

All right, you missed me. All right, let's go to the fucking range. How about that? Yeah. He's 10 feet away. All right. Yeah, the last couple was unnecessary when he shot the door. That's why.

Get them back. That's why you don't care. carrier revolver anymore. He's going to use his grappling hook rope set up on him. I wonder if that was some sort of a fire escape system. Yeah. With a little ladder rope. That makes sense. All right, I take back my criticism. Oh, they did kill some people over there. Oh, okay. Must have been that many black dude. Yeah, what happened to him? Killing the people. That's why he looked for Michael Myers and laundry shoe, so that we

get established that it was there. Oh. It's all coming together now. Took you that long and you just Kool-Aid man the other door? I like that as a verb. What is she hanging on?

Mm-hmm. Just where's she going to go if you let go? I'd get done that earlier. What? What the hell is this shoot for? Is that laundry? Yep.

Now she's stuck. This is the shittiest laundress shoot I've ever seen. Although, to be fair, I don't run across a lot of laundry shoots. I'm not entirely sure they're real. I only ever really see them in the Halloween movies. They have them in H2. I think they have it in H2O also. I'm like, oh, I got this scene again.

Come on, Jamie. Come on. Don't scream. Now he knows you're in there. She got Spider-Man her way up to launch his shoe. Hell yeah. I'll think it works like that, Mike. Like, what are we doing?

I never understood the mechanics of this. I got to get this over. You turn it, brother. What are you doing? You know, they taught me how to drive. At a build, hospital, but they teach me how to open this. I don't know nothing but stabbing. Man, Daniel Harris did, she did, she did amazing job acting at this man.

Like, it's very believable. Yeah, a lot of child stars here take the shit out of me. She's not bad. Like, when I see the child actors have some type of trauma, okay? Because, like, there's acting, but it's like, man, like, she makes this 100% believe. leave her like she's not at. So that's where all the cops are. Yeah. They told them to leave. They were just waiting around the corner. Yeah, they cops, they definitely put all the eggs in one basket. Like, come on, you know. They had a donut special across the street, all right? We

were over there. Coffee was 50% off. 50% off. What's some coffee? Who lit the candles? know Michael didn't light any candles. That's true. Since he doesn't know anything except stabbing. Yeah. Look at all them candles. No way Michael lit that up. Look like something Loomis did. He was trying to be romantic. Yeah.

That's why he was trying to get him all alone. I'm going to light these candles and all the cops away. Oh. Got to kill the dog, huh? Oh, Rachel. He killed Max, why Max was chained up. That's weak, Michael. That's weak.

Max never got his bowl of water. I know. Oh, right? You know what? Well, maybe Michael never really did kill Max. Max might have died of dehydration. Then he just hung him up by the neck. Yeah.

With Tina left, you remember Michael Pollock. So Michael's like, hey, man, you can't put that one on me. Hide in this coffin. Man, I have to say a Rachel right there, it really sucks that they just straight up killed their character off that easy, though. I mean, you know, she's... Maybe she's just giving up. Yeah. Is Shannon Shark?

Uncle Boogie Man. She hit him in the soft spot. Uncle Boogie Man. He's like, well, what? Little niece, why would you be scared of me? What is this shit? Eh, I don't think he looks just. like you. Is Michael Myers crying? What the fuck am I watching right now? He's evil?

Michael Myers is some emo bitch? No. I gotta get her. She saw me cry. You gotta get her before she tells everybody. Yeah. Boy, Loomis is like the second villain of this movie. For sure. I don't want you. You don't want you, Loomis. When did he build that? That's what he'd been working on all year while he had had a defeat. And hear me out, you could have shot him in the face. Yeah. Like a bunch. With like a real gun.

Yeah, he's evil, right? Why are you? The tranquilizers. Be evil. I'm beating with this two by four. I'm going to catch him with a net. I'll shoot him full of tranquilizers. He ain't got that much force behind those hits.

Right. He's swinging like Montgomery Burns. Help me smithers. Heart attack. Get him again. You get another hit? There we go. But I did like in the sequel following this one,

Paul Rudd's character, he gave Michael a beating down, like, similar to that too. Yeah, he did. Yeah, but his was a little, like, had a way more force to him. it. So I remember that I was like, yeah, keep hitting him. Hit him. Maybe don't go to Haddonfield. Yeah. They allowed him to keep his mask.

In the prison. I don't, right? I'm like, man, give me that damn mask. Well, we've already established. They're not great cops. I mean, I thought the sheriff was decent, but yeah, leave. This wouldn't it happen under Dooys watch? Not two years in a row. No, uh, no, uh. Come to MIBs.

It's the MIBs. Let me see, I think the sixth one didn't come out to probably by like six years after this one. And I remember, I was like, man, they just left that open ended. See, in there with the Tommy gun? What's going on? Yeah. See, this is what having on a Swashenegger as the sheriff would have paid off because it went down like that. Not at all.

They are definitely. shitty cops. Took them out like the Terminator. Where'd he explode the fucking gate? You don't remember hearing that explosion?

No, I don't. Well, that was a movie that we watched. What a way to end. No. I know it wasn't as passionate as Dr. Loomis, no, but

I feel that, no. Dr. Lumis was really creeping me out in that movie. Yeah, yeah, he was. Like, he seemed like the main mad guy. Yeah. I'm surprised Loomis wasn't at the station.

There's Halloween five, ladies and gents. Revenge of the Michael Myers, or whatever the hell it was called. You know where to go from here. Usually I'm drunk and I just shut up. Tavares, what do you got coming out?

Well, tomorrow I'm going to complete the last of my 31 nights of Halloween movies. So I'm at 27 now. This makes 27. So I've got four more to go. So I'm going to do that. I'm going to do some reviews. I probably got about eight more reviews to do. And I'm going to go trick-or-treating tomorrow.

And I'm going to watch the Texans whoop. up on some Jets tomorrow. Oh, is that the Thursday night game? Yeah, Thursday night game. I'm going to watch the rockets. Whop up on some Maverick, so it's going down tomorrow. We're down in age time tomorrow. All right.

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we are doing the year in horror in 1991 with scanners to the new order and highway to hell highway to hell i don't even know that that one is that the one with um what's the name's brother what's the actor name? Rob Lowe's brother? Yeah. Okay. And I've never seen scanners, too. So that'll be a fun one.

Right, until the horror returns, Phil. Good night.