The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #441: The Year In Horror 1991, Part 2 - Scanners II: The New Order & Highway to Hell

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

This week we go back to simpler times to see if the early 90's were really that bad for horror. Cool of the Week includes Agatha All Along and Tulsa King. Trailers are Presence and Heart Eyes. The podcast spotlight shines on Pod of the Damned. And we get feedback from Steven Lowblad, Xim Vader. Matt Wood, Rodney Barnett, Sarah Giercksky, Brian Henriksen, Joe Allen, David Bart, Brian Ballard, Christopher Morrow, Jason Hirth, Jeff Aber, Mark Komarzynski, Neil Burkdoll, and Grace Sanchez. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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I'm Lance, and with me as always is my co-host, Brian Phillips. What's he got going on, man? It's his wife's birthday or something, isn't it tonight? Yeah. her birthday today, happy birthday Rose. So Philip is locked down for the day.

Well, that definitely takes priority. Because if I forgot my wife's birthday or tried to do a podcast on her birthday, I'd probably never hear the end of it. No comment? No, I'll do a podcast

on anybody's birthday. There you go. That's the spirit. That's the spirit. Well, speaking of which, man, I thought I saw new wrestling returns being worked on or something. Were my eyes deceiving me, or is there something coming up? We dropped one a week ago. We were a little late on that one, and there was an event a week ago that we're about to record for that one. Do they still call those pay-per-view, or what are they calling them now?

Me and Ness are learning. We still call them pay-per-views, but they're officially called PLEs, premium live events. All right. Well, I guess you got to pay big bucks for those, huh? Peacock. Oh, they're on Peacock? Yeah, W.W.E Network. Oh, okay. I thought there was like an extra expense for the big ones or something. No, that's why they're not pay-per-views no more. well that's cool that that's so that's actually one thing that's maybe gotten better than

because i remember in the old days man we would we would all have to chip in together to be able to watch like a like a boxing match or something this is like a hundred a fucking hundred dollars or something yeah what's that like what's that like having people chip in because it used to be it used to be fight fight weekend every day every weekend in my house and I don't remember anybody chipping in. Oh, you picked up the bill on that one, huh? Yeah.

I think the last one I stopped paying for was that a Mayweather Pachial fight that cost $100, and it was not worth $100. Well, yeah, because it's usually like knockout in the first round or something, right? Chipping in. It seemed like every time I ever saw a person. professional fight in the day. It was always like first round knockout or maybe maybe they'd go three rounds or something like that kind of playing around.

And then, like you got all the lead up fights too, right? There's always like at least six or seven other other fights on the card usually. Is wrestling like that too? Well, the new WWE, you get five matches every PLE. Okay. That's AAA. is running the company now and that that that's his model those five matches the rest of it yeah what I've heard of him I think I think I know who you're

talking about whatever happened to Vince McMahon did he get in some kind of trouble or something yeah he gets some allegations he's no longer owner of the company and he's uh every time I hear about him he has some new or somebody else suing him. So he's gone for good. You think it's an improved product with him out of there? Yeah, because he was, he was out of touch. Out of touch with reality, huh?

Not really reality. It's just things, times change. People want a different product. And he was stuck in the mindset of what he thought people, thought people liked or what he thought people needed to like. Okay, I could see that. Like, um, old school, like, trying to keep doing the same thing over and over again and people are demanding something different.

Yeah. Redoing the same gimmicks. Sure. Wrestlers, uh, he always felt like wrestlers should look like John Cena or Batista, like that, have that body type. right right and there were times when uh certain wrestlers that didn't have that body type were kind of over with the fans and that's who the fans wanted to be champion right but Vince was like no that guy would never be champion this guy's going to be champion because I say so

so that's kind of like the way they set it up huh is it is it that way anymore of it has that you think that's changed some of that behind the scene stuff uh Triple H definitely listens to the fans. That's good, man. He gives the fans what they want. And if there's something they have issues with, he does listen to the feedback. And that's probably smart. Yeah.

Probably smart. All right, hold on. I'm going to test my microphone here real quick. I'll try to edit this out if you can help me out. Can you still hear me just as clearly? Yep. All right. Good, good deal.

Cool. All right, because I get this headset. It's got a microphone on it. It keeps getting in my way. So I'm using my blue instead. All right, cool. All right, and well, you obviously can tell how long it's been since I've really sat down to watch wrestling then. Yeah, it kind of sounds like it's been a while for you.

I think the last time I ever saw one, and they may still do this, but they did something where at the end, they were fighting over a ladder and what I got on the ladder and climbed to the top and there was a fucking briefcase full of money or something hanging from a rope. Does that sound familiar? Yeah, they still do that the money in the bank.

Money in the bank. It's not a briefcase of money. It's a contract. Even better, right? Even better. You get the contract. You get to have a championship match whenever, wherever, at any time. Oh man.

Man, that's got to be fiercely fought over then, huh? Yeah. Oh, man. I may have to get into this, dude. If it's on Peacock, although I don't have the Peacock premium. I've got like the cheapest one with ads. I probably aren't, I'm probably not going to get those events, am I? No, you probably have to get the premium.

Wow. Now that I'm paying $25 a month for Netflix, $192 a year for Max, You know, budget. Budget only goes so far, Brian. Yeah. Billet called it. It's a tricky thing with these streaming services. Yes, it is.

I just pretty much, I just pretty much subscribe. Like, I got Netflix back for this month because Cobra Kai is coming back. Ah, I got to get caught up then. Maybe I'll do that after the show tonight. Yeah, but after Cobra Cye, we're done with it. I won't be. Not Stranger Things?

Stranger Things. What was going to talk about in news, officially getting a 2025 release. Okay. So I'll try to... I'll do it for stranger things. Okay. Well, I guess some people will, like, go a whole year,

and then they'll, like, get it for just a month and binge it or something. Yeah, I mean... Yeah, I might keep... Now that I'm thinking about it, I might keep Netflix for December, because that's when Squid Games comes back. Oh, the real one, not the game show, right? Yeah, season.

Yeah, season two. All right. Yeah, I enjoyed the first season. I just don't know where they're going to go from there, man. They announced a third season, and the third season will be the final season. I like that. I like that.

They've got an ending setup for it. It's not going to be just like struggling to go on forever or something like that, then it sounds like. hope so thank God for that yeah because you remember what happened to lost right I've only seen the first episode I've heard stories of people being upset you know what I wasn't super upset I wasn't like our good friend Jack Valley for example who I think you might have thrown his remote control through his TV or something at the final episode I wasn't that mad

but they definitely lost sight of where they were going. There's no doubt about that. I don't know if I've ever been that upset at the ending of a show. Brian, have you ever seen any of those YouTube videos or the reels and stuff where it's like a Cowboys fan? And they're like cheering because the Cowboys are about to win the game. And then like, DAC throws an interception or something. And they run it all the way to the other end.

to beat it by two points and then they go up there and literally kick their TV. You ever seen those videos? Yeah, there's always for the Super Bowl. Whatever team loses, there's always video clips of people just completely diving into TV upset. Yeah, that's why I can't get that into sports. And you've got an NBA team, but you said you don't really have an NFL team, right? Don't have an NFL team.

I've been a Rockets fan since I was 12. Okay. I was a big Elijah one fan. Oh, yeah, who wouldn't he, man? And then when, well, you had that team that was kind of like the dream team. And then were you watching, you watched them when they were in the finals where all of a sudden the game was interrupted because they were showing video of a certain person. trying to outrun cops that going like five miles an hour

in a white bronco. Do you remember that? Yes, I was watching that game on TV. That pissed me off, dude. We were trying to watch the game, and they're showing the OJ chase for like 40 fucking minutes, and then they finally go back to the game. Yeah, because I'm a kid at that time,

so I have no... Right, why was a kid at heart? Sure. Yeah, they could have at least had the courtesy to do a picture and picture or something, right? They had that technology back then. That was what, the mid-90s? Yeah.

They could have figured something out to not interrupt the game, you know? I guess it was a big news for the time. I guess. And they still made, no, I couldn't really care less, man. I just wanted to see the game. Because we had followed them for like four or five seasons in a row. and the first season we followed them, Brian, was their first

championship. So we got hooked, you know, what can you say? Then they kind of tore the end there, like they sort of tore the team apart and started bringing in like Scotty Pippin. And he was kind of just piking it. Barclay was always really fun to watch.

Yeah, but we never got to the finals with him. No, we never did. Did we? And there was the Steve Francis years, Stevie franchise. Oh, man. Yao Ming, Tenderfoot, as I like to call him.

Yeah, when he was, when he was healthy, he was good. Yeah, that's a big win. I remember that season, I think it was him, Tracy McGrady. Oh, yeah, T-Mack. A few other people. I think

that's when they set the record for, I think they won like 25, 26 games in a row. I remember that. I remember that vividly. Yeah, I've been with them all the Ron Artes years, metal world peace. Yep, yep, that's right. That's right.

So you're a true fan. Yeah. But this is not the Rockets returns, is it? No, it's not. Although it would be good to see a championship return. But I digress. Cool of the week, Brian. you got to throw something at me man i know we're

still trying to get these 31 days movies that's actually a good gimmick for us man Halloween and November for our last two 31 days how do you like that yeah we can do that i mean i still got to keep the holiday going still got to give you my Christmas movies next month are you are you really going to do that

yeah i said i would i'm going to hold you to it your mic kind of changed all right it changed but is but is it still there is my question yeah it's still there now does it sound better or worse because we're doing mic test tonight apparently sounded better before sounded better before all right let me see if I can fix this

can you hear me now still sounds the same all right well we're going to have to unfortunately I still have a bump my new my new wire for my for my blue dude the one i was bitched about what four months ago i used a whole bunch of duct tape to tape it up all right we'll just continue on what is it listener no we're not we gotta do uh cool the week cool of the week i finished agatha all along so you're done with the finale yep and i we'll have to say it was probably one of the better Marvel Disney Plus shows. Oh shit.

Okay, so good start to finish then. Yeah. Catherine Hahn was fantastic. I loved all the little side characters. They hinted at some characters coming back. They hinted at other characters that we've been kind of having theories on, showing up. Okay. But the main thing I liked, they didn't go.

off the rails it was always like the show it was agatha all along it was always about her didn't become about Wanda or all this other stuff or these other characters it was mainly focused on her and she did a fantastic job

yeah I really yeah I really enjoyed seeing her in the what was the Wanda Vision show that she showed up in right yeah she's good characters did that did that one character that you and Phil were speculating about show up?

Didn't show up, but they said the name. All right. So. I don't know how spoilerific you want to get. I mean, I'm assuming there were at least some other Marvel characters in there, like at least maybe some cameos. No.

Really? It was, well, there was a cameo from somebody from Wanda Vision. Okay. We'll leave it at that, right? Yeah. Okay.

Every, every Marvel character that was mentioned was only mentioned. It wasn't like that character became a main focus. So they didn't try to overdo it then. Yeah. Okay. And it was 10 episodes? What was it 10? I think it was 8 or 9.

Okay, so see, do I finish Cobra. Do I catch up on Cobra Kai tonight, or do I start? that tonight. You got time for Cobra Kai. I think Cobra Kai is in like a week. Yeah, less chance of being spoiled. Because if I was going to be spoiled on Cobra Kai, would have been by now. And since they're

doing like the, what, whether they're doing a half season, half season? Three parts. Three? Okay. Well, then I got to get back into it. All right. Well, I think I've got like three episodes in, so I'm probably halfway done anyway, right? With this first part? Yeah. Okay.

Well, decisions, decisions. Embarrassment of riches, as we say. Yeah. That is all I have. I'm working on the penguin. I should have that finished by next week's show. Okay. So anything that you can talk about, you've talked about,

anything else we'll save for our Halloween in November. episodes then. Yep. Okay. Have you ever seen the Tulsa King? Love Tulsa King. Okay. Well, I just got introduced to it.

And, uh, well, AJ and I were in Houston. We binge the whole, we almost binge the entire first season and one night. They go really quick. Yeah. You know, after you get through the little, you know, intro and the credits and all that, I mean, it's only like 35 minutes per episode. And I think it's, what, like eight or nine episodes of season or something like that. So, yeah, we're pretty impressed because I had heard a lot of people talk about it.

I think I heard you talking about it. I know I heard LoBlad talking about it. I heard Nez talking about it. I think I've heard the geeks. Yeah, the geeks talk about it all the time, too. Yeah, I think Phil recently talked about it. Well, there you go, man. Like, I was the last to the party, I guess.

But, no, I'm, yeah, so we're done with season one. and we're probably three episodes into season two now. Okay. And this is our new sense of anarchy, Brian. Yeah, I can see that. Completely outrageous, totally unrealistic, very silly as far as how they get out of these pickles that they're in.

But it's so much fucking fun to watch, right? Yeah, I love that he's playing close to his real age, too. What is he? city, 75 years old, right? Yeah, but he still looks like he'll beat your ass. Oh, and he would. And he would. And I like Martin Starr's character.

The guy ran the legal weeds, medical weed store. Yeah. That seems really good. And then, of course, he's got his two love interests, so that keeps things pretty interesting. And then he,

I'm not going to revisit the first episode, because like, anybody listening to us has heard it probably talked about seven or eight times because we all tend to listen to the same podcast but once you get out of that setup part which is funny you know getting used to being in there 25 years but yeah once you start getting into this this cast of characters these different people that that worked for him and how he ends up like the strangest people come together and make like a gang you know yeah and it's just so much fun and then it's like can he trust the guys from the mob can he not trust the guys from the mob i i think we're going to learn

some big things at the end of the second season as far as like who set him up and stuff like that yeah i think so so yeah Tulsa king so what do we got we got agatha all along in tulsa king this week huh yeah fun shows yes both very fun show well i'll i'll tell you in a little while if agus this fun but i have no doubt i have no doubt it will be i haven't even even I haven't seen the acolyte yet, have you? I watched the first two or three episodes, and it's not as bad as people make it out to be. Okay.

I mean, I might get some flack on here, but I think Star Wars fans are probably one of the worst fans. They are, aren't they? They're terrible. They're just, like, super picky, and, like, everybody's got their favorite era of movies, and their favorite characters. You know, I mean, if you can enjoy it,

just enjoy it for the show, right? You know, don't be such a fucking nerve that you got to, well, this happened three fan threes before this storyline, and I don't like that ass, and, you know, I mean, fuck that shit. I mean, to be fair, is it the best Star Wars show? No, but is it as bad as people have made it out to be, definitely not right well I've heard good and bad all right so to be honest I haven't

I haven't heard anybody really really rip it except for the people that wouldn't give it the chance if you catch what I'm saying like they would only watch a couple of episodes and then say they're tapping out or whatever have you seen the trailer for the skeleton crew I have not is it animated no it's a live action Star Wars show it makes me feel like it's the goonies meet star wars oh no that that could be very bad but it looks fun okay

i'm looking at the skeleton crew oh here we yeah yeah star war skeleton crew yeah the only the only actor because it's a bunch of it's a bunch of kids but the only actor i recognize is a jew law and it looks like he's a he's a jett he's a jett i okay or at least he's force sensitive interesting i look man i like i said i've still got to catch up on the acolyte so eventually i'll watch it all but i don't know man i'm not going to be in a big hurry i'm not i'm not super excited you know me i'm a trek guy what can i say well you got a section 31 coming out soon yeah i'm i'm looking i'm looking forward to that and i'm definitely looking forward to the Starfleet Academy show that's coming out.

I think you were talking about that a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. So that's, yeah, there's a lot, a lot of good stuff for track fans out there. But unfortunately, we're kind of few and far between, I think. But, hey, as long as they keep giving us, the material will keep consuming it, right? Yeah, of course. All right. So that's cool of the week, Brian.

Do you have any horror headlines for us? I have two weeks full. Nice. All right. First one we'll talk about is Hell House LLC lineage has begun production. Okay. And I think I read there might be another Hell House movie after this one. And I might be wrong.

Somebody give us some list of feedback if I'm wrong. But I think the one after this will be the final one. Okay, so they've got an end game. Cognetti is still doing all this stuff, Stephen Cognetti? Yes. Okay, cool. So we can trust him that. Yeah.

Friend of the show, Stephen Cognetti, I'll add, right? Yes. Yes, I'm looking forward to it, man. And I love it. Like I said, when you were talking about, they've only got three season of Squid game. Like, I love it when they've got an end game, right? And they're not just trying to suck it dry for every. everything it's worth. So this

one's called lineage. Do you know any of the details about it? No, I don't have it pulled up, but it kind of sounds like it might be a prequel. Okay. I'm just going off of the lineage title. Makes sense. I actually like the last movie, the one that had the weird

clown statue in that they kept moving around. So I've seen them all. There's not one of them. I haven't enjoyed i i think the first is the best but maybe that's just because we weren't expecting it it you know yeah i you know what i agree with you i think the first one is the best second one kind of took a little div but i thought the third one brought it back to where it needed to be okay well we'll we'll definitely be watching it um you think it's going to be a theatrical release or more of like a direct-to-video if you were to guess um i know shutter has distribution rights but i don't

know if it's going to make a theater run before the shutter. Okay. All right. Well, yeah, I'll, I'll check it out for sure, man. I know I'm confident we all will. Yeah. Let's see. The copyright to the original Tremor screenplay is now back in the hands of its creators at Stampede Entertainment. Okay. So maybe we get that Tremors. I mean, at this point, you think? You think it's still doable? They probably get a lot of...

I mean, I know we don't look, man. I'm old, Brian. When I was young, we would write letters to the TV studio, put them in an envelope, put a stamp on it. You know, and then they'd bring in these big bags of letters, I guess, to the editor's office and the producers and say, well, we better do a third season of Star Trek, you know? so I'm I'm assuming that that this all is through like social media now probably when people demand this stuff I mean I don't know we'll see Kevin Bacon was very passionate about that series

yeah and he still looks relatively young I mean he's kind of one of those that you know a Paul Red type right or Tom Tom Cruise never ages yeah Kevin Bacon is a movie star like he doesn't really do TV and he was totally down to do that series well I think they were fools to let that slip through then yeah because that trailer that they made looked so good

oh my god I just I just realized Brian I'd completely forgotten that he was in the Axel F movie yeah he was the spoilers he was the villain spoilers Oh, man. Okay. Yeah, he's been, he's played a lot of villains lately, hasn't he?

Yeah, he's a villain in X-Men. I was the X-Men first class. There was something else recently he was a villain in. Yeah, well, he was definitely our villain in the darkness. Oh, yeah. Because anyone involved in that movie, to us, is a villain. Yeah, I think I read Robert England still would like for him to have a run at Freddie Kruger. Kevin Bacon as Freddie Krueger. I think I read recently. He said that's still his pick. I kind of say why not? You know what I would kind of like to see and people are going to be yelling at me.

I wouldn't mind seeing a female Freddie Krueger. And let me tell you why. Yeah, people are definitely yelling at you right now. I know they're yelling at me, but can I explain myself? Give me a chance to explain myself, people. Look at it this way. How many young boys, teenage boys have not dreamt of waking up with a beautiful woman in bed next to them? Yeah.

So she kind of gets to you that way, right? And then all of a sudden the clawed glove comes out. I think it would be ingenious. So Nightmare on Elm Street reboot is an. erotic thriller. Well, I mean, for fuck's sake, Tim, Tim did it, Tim did an entire Freddie Kruger porno parody episode

on his podcast, so why not? Why not? Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to lie and say I won't watch it. I mean, Will Smith did Nightmare on my street, so anything's possible, right? Yeah, true. Let's see.

Skinnamorink director, Kyle Edward Ball, next horror movie will be with A-24 and it will be titled, The Land of Nod. So he, okay, so if A-24 hired him, he impressed somebody. I still think there was something in that Skinner Ring movie, some kind of... Yeah, message? Creative genius to that movie.

I still, to this day, don't know how I feel about that movie. movie. You know what? I didn't like hate it. Yeah. I have to admit. I didn't hate it, right? Because it was definitely,

definitely kind of neat, you know, the way that they, they did a lot of the camera angles like from the kids' perspective. Yeah, very experimental. I don't get the Legos, but I know they mean something.

They got to mean something, right? Yeah. All right. Let's see. You said the land of nod. Yeah. Okay. So is this also like a sleep dream movie?

Because like you're nodding off? I don't know. That might be a stretch, huh? Yeah, Kyle, come on the show. Explain Skinnamarink and talk about your new movie. Okay. The Land of Nod. Why not?

Let's see. Fear Street Prom Night is going to get a 2025 release date on Netflix. I saw the poster for that. Yeah. I liked the first three Fear Street movies. Okay. Yeah, I still haven't seen them, dude. I've been meaning to.

But no one who's seen it has told me they didn't like it. Yeah. I say the third one kind of drops off a little bit because it's a period piece. But they're all connected, so. Okay. I think the best one. I kind of go back from the first and the second one. So I think the first one is in the 90s.

I think the second one is in the 70s. Okay, so they don't necessarily go in perfect order, right? So they kind of skip around that, it sounds like. Yeah, it kind of jumps around. That's cool. I'll check them out eventually. What I'll probably do is watch, because it's three of them. Is that right?

Yeah. Probably watch all three of them. them and then the, you know, and then the new one, I'll bet. If I were to guess, that's probably what I'll do. Okay, let's see. Catherine Cochran, people might not recognize that name, but she was the one in Terrifier that got hung upside down and saw it in half.

Oh, I can never forget that scene. Okay. She is going to star in a new horror movie called Jackalope. And will she be hung upside? down and cut in half. I do not know, but it's kind of odd you don't really see her

in that many things because she's probably other than art, she's probably one of the most recognizable faces from that movie. I would think so. I would think so. Well, you know, I mean, why not, right?

Stick with what you know. A lot of the time people get into get into horror and you know that's obviously you know we're a community that tends to take care of our own wouldn't you say absolutely

and like you guys were talking about in the Halloween movie that you guys did last week you know you tend to get people that start young you know like in the industry right and then they like you were saying they become scream queen

scream queens over time yeah which was very surprising to me, Phil felt like he kind of recognized Daniel Harris. Kind of sort of. When he walked right by her table at the fright mirror.

I mean, like, as far as like her career. And then me and the Tavares were kind of saying she's been acting since the 90s. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, she'll even do a lot of those cameos now, like in the lower budget stuff.

I know you've seen a couple of those. that one from a couple of years you were talking about. Like it was not really a good movie, but it had like seven or eight big horror stars that had Oh, Natty Knox. That one had Bill Mosley and Robert England.

Okay. And it had Daniel Harris in the movie for like 15 minutes. Well, you know, you're going to watch it for that, right, regardless of how terrible it is. Oh, yeah. I love Daniel Harris. I always kind of felt like watching her movies. I felt like I grew up with her.

Literally. Yeah. I imagine you and her about the same age, aren't you? I think so. Okay. Yeah. Well, you know, the ones I grew up with were like, you know, Betty Davis and I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I was about to say, how old are you, Lance? I'd have to be pretty old, wouldn't I? Yeah, let's keep it going here. Scarlett Johansson will produce and possibly star in a mystery thriller titled The Girl in the Lake. She's getting in a lot of producing and stuff lately. And that, okay, that sounds familiar.

That's based on a book, isn't it? I think so. The Girl in the Lake. That sounds like super, super familiar. can you can you believe she's married to colin jose the the guy that that does uh weekend update on saturday night live with michael chay i could see it she probably she probably likes the guy with a sense of humor i could see that yeah because i don't know i i always just thought he kind of maybe a little out of his league but you know what do i know man he's probably funny

as hell right yeah who was i going to say. I can't remember the actor's name. I always remember him from Super Troopers in that opening scene, the one that eats all the drugs. You know what? You're going to yell at me the same way Philip did

when I said this about four years ago when we were talking about Super Troopers. Brian, I've never seen it. God damn it, Lance. I've seen Clubbred. I've seen, I've probably seen Beer Fest a dozen times. What was the other movie they made? Are they made a bunch of? The slamming salmon? I've seen the slamming salmon. Wasn't that good, by the way.

I didn't think. But they say Super Troopers is like the best of them all, right? Oh, yeah. By far. Maybe I'll watch that tonight after we after we record. I may not get any more sleep tonight than I did last night watching all that election bullshit. Well, watch

that. The guy that eats all the drugs in the beginning, he's married to Costina Hendricks from Madman the redhead. The one with the huge personality? Yes. Yes. Okay. Hugely talented. Yes. Yes.

And I just kind of it's just like all power to you man when I seen a picture of them together. Well, if you can get it, why not, right? You know? Like the dude, the other dude that was on Saturday Night Live that had all the hot chicks,

Ariana Grande and one of the Kurt Dacians. Yeah, Pete Davidson. There you go, man. It's their sense of humor. He also, who would I think he dated Kate Beckinsale? Probably, yeah. Wouldn't doubt it.

Would not doubt it at all. All right. Let's see. Theo James. He's next going to star in Stephen King's The Monkey. Okay. But he will also star in,

Kim G. Wounds The Hole, which Kim G. Wounds, he did that one movie I saw The Devil. Yes, great movie. Yeah. Very good revenge movie. So Theo James kind of getting out there now.

Yeah, he is, man. He started out as kind of a kid actor, didn't he? Yeah, I think so. Isn't he in the gentleman, the Netflix series? Yes, yes. that I do recognize him being on the cover. I've never seen the series, but I do remember him being on the cover.

Yeah. Kind of want to watch the series. I love the movie. So maybe I'll get the series to try. Movies great. Yeah, I just, yeah, one of those things, you only got so many hours in the day, Brian. Yeah, so many shows.

Well, and as you know, you know, like I had to miss the show last week. It tore my heart out, Not to be able to hang out with you guys in Tavares. But, you know, when you live in Central Florida, Brian, and you're, like, three miles from the beach, it's pretty hard to, literally hard to keep people away. Yeah, I can see that. Let's see. Paul W.S. Anderson, known for the, what was the Resident Evil movies, he's adapting another video game.

One that's already been adapted into a film. The House of the Dead. No, stop it. Is this April 1st episode that you trapped me in here, Brian? Are we trapped into Time Warp and we went back to April Fool's Day? Nope, he is adapting the arcade game, House of the Dead. Come on. I mean, the first one was fun, right?

Remember we watched it for Is It Really That Bad? Yeah, not a great movie. Not a great movie. Never be, never, but a fun. movie. It's no hereditary, is it? No, definitely not. Let's see. Ben Mendelsohn and Anthony Ramos are set to star in a New York City horror movie titled The Mole People. And this is from director Rob Savage. Why is that name so familiar? Uh, host dash camels. Okay. Something else I'm forgetting, but those are ones I know you've seen. for sure. Mold people.

And Dashcam and Dashcam is one of those where, like some people didn't like it because they didn't like the main actress. But that basically means she was acting the way she was supposed to be acting because she pissed people off because she was such a bitch, you know? Yeah, I kind of felt like that was what they were aiming for. Yeah, there's something to that, I think, you know. Let's see. Ella Balinski Balinska She was the star of that Resident

Evil TV series The Netflix series that was horrible She's gonna be in a She's gonna star in an apocalyptic horror movie titled Monsters Yay Yay, another apocalyptic horror movie Yay So this time is it that they can't hear

Or that they can't see Or is this one maybe they can't They're not supposed to smell Like if you sniff something to smell It brings the aliens around. Can use any of your senses. Right, right.

Okay. Sure. Let's take a trip over to the Pooniverse. All right. Pinocchio Unstrung, Robert England and Richard Brake joined the cast. Are you serious? Yes.

Oh, that's going to be amazing. Well, wait a minute. Hold on. We thought the mousetrap was going to be pretty good, didn't we, Brian? I didn't. Did you think it was going to be that bad, though? I thought it was going to be so bad it's good.

Dude, it was literally a guy in a hockey jersey with a fucking mouse mask, literally. With teleportation powers. And where did that come from? They didn't explain it. They just kind of threw it at you. It's so bad. It'll be on a list at the end of my year. What about you?

it's yeah probably not oh it's not a walk okay all right i'm intrigued let's see mike flanagan he's going to be producing a zombie movie title epilogue which is which is going to start kate segal his wife and david dulcumulchin oh poke it up man he's always polka dot man to me well look man if he's directing it Brian it could be called phone book A through Z the movie Yeah that's a winning I don't think he's directing

He's producing Oh he's James wanting it Okay gotcha Yeah but I mean Kate Siegel and David Dalsmaltzman Oh yeah you can't go wrong You can't go wrong Let's see Jackie Earl Haley

He set the star in a game show theme Slasher movie titled I'm Your Hope Those can be fun. Those are a lot of fun. You think he's going to be like a Richard Dawkins and the running man type host, or what do you envision here? A Richard Dawson.

Why do I say Richard Dawkins? Yeah, for a second there, I was trying to picture who you were talking about. But now that you bring him up from the running man, I kind of want to see him have that kind of performance. It'd be great. wouldn't it? Yeah. I'm all in. I'm all in. He was terrible

as Freddy Kruger. Yeah. Not his fault, though. Not his fault. Yeah, not his fault. And he was definitely good as Rorschach. And there's a couple other things that I've seen him in that I've really liked him in. So he's got some acting chops for sure. Yeah. Oh, Lance, help me with his name.

Margaret Qualley? Did I say your name? Margaret Qualley? Yes. Not Kristen Stewart, as I like to call her. Okay. She's set to star in a psychological horror thriller titled Victorian Psycho. I love it. I love it. It sounds like a period piece, and I'm all about historical horror.

So count me in. Milo Jovovich and Betty Gabriel are set to star in Twilight of the Dead, the final movie in George A. Romero's iconic zombie franchise. So how are they going to do that with George J. Oh, are they going to bring George A. Romero back as a zombie to write the movie? I think it's already written. Okay. So it was probably something that they found like in his vault or something that maybe he was working on. Yeah, I think there was a series of movies he was working on before he passed. Yes. I do think I heard something about that. That does sound familiar.

And Milo Jovich, you know, she's been. Resident Evil. Sure. Sure. So familiar with zombies. Betty Gabriel. I think what was she in? Upgrade and get out.

Yep. That's right. That's right. I'm intrigued. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I hope you get it onto the schedule. Yeah.

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And we definitely got to make sure that we definitely got to make sure that we, get all your picks for commentary and movies, right? Yeah, get them in as soon as possible because I try to get the schedules up as fast as I can. All right. You're listening. You know who you are. There's only about probably at least five of you that I've got at least so Cusies too. All right, we've got a few more things here.

Micah Monroe and Chloe Akuno, who worked together on The Watcher are working together again for a vampire movie titled Brides. Okay, I don't know what to think of that. But I mean, anything she's in is good, right? Oh, yeah, I think Michael Monroe's kind of the it girl right now. She's our new Samara weaving? Oh, never that, never that. Asriel, what was it go?

Asriel, Ariel? Oh, wait, I can't talk about it yet. Never mind. We'll get into that. We'll get there. Okay. The Wayans brothers are officially returning for the scary movie reboot or scary movie six. I don't know which one they're calling it.

As well they should. As well they should. Now all we need is for Weird Al to do a new album with newer music. Stranger Things have happened. Yes, they have. He's quote unquote retired, but I guess the Wayans were quote unquote retired too. so never say never and the Wayans

when I say Wayans it does include Keenan Sean and Marlin it would have to yeah of course sequel to Alien Romulus is rumored to be in development which is no big surprise not really

and the producer of prey I think neither the producer of prey or predator bad land announced that there's also going to be a second Predator movie coming out in 2025. So other than Predator Badland,

there will be a second predator movie. So they're going pretty hard into the... Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome. As long as they have... As long as they have the production value of prey. Yeah. And they've also...

He's also said there will be another alien versus predator movie, but not how you think the movie is going to be. you mean you think they're actually going to take it seriously I kind of that's what I got from it because he said what you think the movie's going to be is not what it's going to be hey I'm fine with that man I'm kind of like saying if you've seen the predator versus alien movies

that's not what it's going to be well the comic the comics were very dark the comics were always oh I remember they were super violent yeah and then the movies were just kind of silly right like the one in the pyramid or whatever and oh was that the first one i can't remember man they they bleed together i think i like the second one more than the one that was in a small town i couldn't i couldn't tell honestly couldn't tell you because at least that one if i'm remembering correctly the second one who had the balls to like kill a child in that one

well that's always ballsy right yeah but that's the news that is the news and that means Brian as you know it's time for us to take a little trip down to the trailer park Brian is going to bring us the big the small and sometimes the very very weird so I guess on that note what's our first new trailer tonight Brian we got a new one from neon titled Presence this is directed by Stephen Soderberg written by David Kep I think.

That name sounds really familiar. He's written little small movies called Jurassic Park in Sturve Echoes. Wow. Little movies you might have heard of. Maybe have heard of in passing, okay. Yeah. He's directed, I threw Sturreve Echoes in there, but he's directed other stuff, or written and directed stuff. That's pretty big.

Okay. This stars Lucy Lou, Julia, Fox Chris Sullivan and synopsis is a family becomes convinced they are not alone after moving into their new home in the suburbs. And this trailer is advertising a ghost story like one we have never seen before. What did you think? And we've been told that before. And a lot of the time it turns out to be just another ghost story. But I will tell you this, Brian, and you can attest to this because I've heard you say this more than once this year.

But neon might be out A24 and A24 with some of their visuals these days. This is a gorgeous, gorgeous trailer. Yeah, some of the camera angles were kind of unsettling. Very hereditary, like, weren't they? Yeah, I got hereditary from the set, but the camera angles were just kind of. of like I was trying to figure out, is that just the camera? Or is that supposed to be the quote-unquote ghosts, kind of looking at the people moving around them,

just the way the camera was moving? The perspective of the ghost. I could definitely see that. Yeah, absolutely. Has Steven Sotomberg done horror before? Well, he did that. He did unsane, which we all love. Yes, he did.

I mean, he does everything, right? Didn't he do Oceans 11 and Oceans 12 and all that? And, um, magic, Mike. Oh, my God. You didn't have to remind me of that one. God damn it. Yeah, I guess he did and he did, um, Logan Lucky. I mean, the dude's all over the place, right?

He did the one about the outbreak. Did AJ and I watch during COVID? Contagion. Contagion, yeah. So, uh, traffic, Aaron Brockovich, behind the candelabrous sex. I'm just looking through his movies now. I'm kind of cheating. But yeah, I am trying to remember everything that this guy's

done and he's he doesn't stick with just one genre for sure so i don't know i guess unsane would be the most horrific maybe of the stuff he's done maybe okay can't think of anything straight i am intrigued by i mean not a lot happens okay in the trailer but i think enough happens to get me intrigued oh no i'm super intrigued you you know my taste in movies and i think when you saw this trailer you knew i was going to want to see this, didn't you? Yeah, and they kind of did the long legs thing, because I know before this trailer,

there was like a bunch of quick little teasers, how they were doing long legs. Okay. So I think Neon knows what they're doing. Yeah, I agree. I'm excited about this one. All right. This one comes out in theaters January 24th.

All right. And on to our second and first. final trailer is a horror romcom and I believe this was the red band teaser trailer. It looked like it to me. Okay. Heart Eyes is directed by

Josh Rubin who I think Lance you'll best know him from is werewolves within. Didn't like that one. Everybody loved it. Everybody was sucking its dick last year and I was like this okay. One of the writers

besides Philip Murphy and Michael Kennedy is Christopher Landon, which he is known for Freaky and Happy Death Day. A couple of my favorites, okay. This stars Devin Sawah, Jordana Brewster, Olivia Pult. Of course it does. You just buried the lead, man.

You just skipped over that. The great and powerful Devon Sawa, Brian. Everybody knows I'm down with the Sawana song. Who else? Mason Gooding. A lot of people might recognize. them from the last two screen movies

okay sure if you say so and yeah horror romcom Valentine's Day looks bloody I might even actually yeah I might even actually be able to

convince AJ to go see this with me it's a romcom yeah I'll tell her it's just a romcom right yeah the killer has a mask with light up heart eyes sounds like a whole bunch of things she can get behind why not why not right but it looks it looks like it could be some fun

and the little the little teaser part with the killer killing somebody in the van looks super violent and gory I like that I love that effect, yeah. Yeah, so I'm in. I'm in too. This one comes out February 7th. Ah, so it's actually a full week before Valentine's Day then. Yeah.

Sneaky. Okay. And that is all of the trailers we're going to be talking about. Okay. Well, who's doing listener feedback tonight? Me or you? You, sir. Listener feedback. This week, we pod. Maybe you should do it. Okay.

There we go. This week we shine the podcast spotlight on Pod of the Damned. Pot of the Damned is a weekly podcast that reviews horror movies, TV shows, video games, and novels. Sounds like my kind of podcast. It is hosted by Ian Nico and Candy, who are longtime friends. Podcast goal is to rank every horror movie. ever made. Wow. I thought we were biting off more than we could shoot you, Brian.

Ever made. Ever made. Ever made. We still need to do that spreadsheet, by the way. The podcast covers the good, bad, and ugly of horror movies and includes sub-genre, spooky screenings, and tangents. The podcast also encourages

listener interaction. They had me at the first sentence, but I'm adding this one to my rotation right now. I've got to at least, check this out because this sounds amazing. It had me at Ever Made in Tangents. It had me at novels, of course. But yeah, yeah, this is going to the list. All right, cool.

Pod of the Damned, I love the name. All right. Now let's get into our feedback regarding Woman of the Hour. Stephen Loblad said, I want to check this out. I think a lot of people have checked this out. Is it horror? Nez would definitely say no. I will say yes.

It's horrific, right? It's horror adjacent. It's horror adjacent. Yeah, and let's let's be honest, dude. Nez has a very high bar for what qualifies as horror, am I right? Yeah, we respect his bar. His witchcrafty ways, huh? Yeah, he meant witchcraft.

Not witchcraft, which board? Which, which for you? Oh, fuck that movie. Regarding Nightmare on Elm Street Part 2, Zim Vader said the best entry. It is a good one. I just, it just bothers me because it's more like Freddie, like, using somebody as a vessel, right? Yeah. I think that's why people hated it because it's so far off of what the other movies are.

Yeah. But I respect it for what it tried to do. Fair enough. Fair enough. I mean, it's not a bad movie. Oh, by far. Regarding the substance, Matt Wood said all about the asses in this film. Speaking of Margaret Qualley. Asses.

All right. And then now we're going to get some love here, Brian. From our posting of the Bloody Pit podcast, Rodney, Barnett said thank you for reposting this. Well, Rodney, thank you for your interaction and hope you're listening to the show, my friend. Yes, thank you. All right, regarding our reposting of, now I thought her name, I thought she went by Sarah of horror, but it said Bunny Man Slaughter. Is that the new YouTube channel? That's her film coming out. Ah, okay. All right. Now, is this going to be a short or like a full

feature link film? I have not seen a trailer or anything. I'm kind of, when I'm able to watch it, I was kind of going to go in blind not really knowing anything about it. All I know is the trailer that she's directing it.

Is there a reason we haven't invited Sarah on to the show? No. Okay. I believe she's in another country. they never stopped this before did it no regarding our reposting of bunny man

slaughter channel uh Sarah Gerski said thank you well thank you Sarah regarding return return to sleepaway camp Brian Henrickson wonder if he's wonder if he's related to Lance

said that movie sucked Joe Allen Joe Allen said absolutely garbage movie but man I love the first three so there you go it does have that it's horrible

but it does have that quality to where you can have fun laughing at it is it is so bad it's good then it kind of squeaks in there okay if it's the one I'm thinking of there is a

fucking character in there that is so annoying but funny at the same time. Is there like a disco dancing scene or something like that? No, I think this one is in the 90s, late 90s, early 2000s. We'll get to it eventually, Brian. All right.

Oh, speaking of listener interaction, this next bit of feedback, if you are listening, hello, if you're listening, David, David Barta. If you're listening, David Barta, Lord returns. David Varda. Come in. We need your three movies, dude. I know we talked about a lot, but we had come. We finally figured out we'd covered all of them, so please give us three movies to cover, and

do not forget to pick one for you to come join us for a commentary. So regarding prey, David Barta said, I found this to be an excellent addition to the Predator Film series. Agreed. Regarding

Micah Monroe, Brian Ballard said I love everything she does, her and horror. So there. And Christopher Morrow says this looks pretty good. Micah Monroe is currently my favorite actress. Micra in Long Legs and It Follows. So a lot of feedback congruent with our topics on the show so far tonight, Brian.

Yeah. Oh, she does have the sequel to It Follows also coming out. Is she going to be in that? Yeah. Okay. All right. I think it's called They Follow. Of course. They got to get cute with the names, don't think? All right. So let's see.

Regarding possible new Halloween movie, Jason Hurth says, Evil dies tonight. Oh, wait, maybe not yet. Regarding the airplane wing monster from Twilight Zone the movie, Jeff Aber says, wonder who would win. This thing or the creature in the box from Creep Show. you think, Brian? The gremlin from Twilight.

He flies. I agree. Yeah. I agree. And he rips a wing off of an airplane. So there. Yeah. All right. Regarding Jacob's ladder, Mark Komersenski says

unsettling and sad at the same time. I totally get that especially at the end. Good film, though, nevertheless. Yeah, that sums it up. All right. He also had some feedback for us on Highway to Hell. This is a really cool concept

and movie. I really enjoy this one. Plus, Christy Swanson and C.J. Graham from Friday the 13th, Part 6. So there you go. Regarding Vampire in Brooklyn. Holy God, I'd forgot all about that one. Neil Birkdall

said one of the only movies other than Crow 2. Now, when he says Crow 2, does he mean the remake from this year? He's talking about a different movie, Brian. think the sequel to the original. Okay. So one of the only movies other than Crow 2 that I wanted to walk out within the first five minutes because it was so bad.

I don't remember Vampire and Brooklyn being that bad. It's bad, but not to the... I haven't seen it at a while. I don't remember the first five minutes just being so bad that you want to leave. Didn't he like disappear into like ether in one scene or something like that? he was at a shipyard or showed up on a ship. Hell, I don't know. It's been a long time, man.

I haven't seen that one in a while. I think we did that one. Probably. Years ago. Probably. Regarding Lauren Levera, is that he? Is it Laverna or Lavera? How do you pronounce it?

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It doesn't do anything special for you because we haven't done a Patreon-exclusive commentary in a year. But hey, you know, you can join. And for $5 or more a month, also pick a commentary for a future bonus show. So David Bardo, we are talking to you. And now it's time for our main attractions. We're going to go back to 1991 for Scanners 2, The New Order and Highway to Hell. 10 years ago, an extraordinary experiment gave birth to Scatters. Their powers were the most terrifying ever.

10 years later, here is Scatters 2, the new order. We are going to save the society. We're going to have to cure crime. Think stronger. Scanners 2 trivia. A scanner discovers a plot by renegade elements in the city government to take power with the help of evil scanners. I guess that's a good description. Good as any, maybe.

Yeah. Directed by Christian Dugui, Deguay, whatever. Also known for screamers. Never heard of that one. Have you? Screamers. Is that with Peter Weller? Sure.

I have no idea Never heard of it, man I gotta look it up now But he did it So you think it was Peter Weller Robocop himself, huh? Yep, Peter Weller Peter Weller, okay

And I think Could be wrong But I think A certain kiss Band member was in there No, come on, man Oh, no, that's another movie I'm thinking about That's another movie I'm thinking about

That's another maybe I'm thinking of the... Okay, forget I said anything. All right. But it's Peter Weller, though. Peter Weller, you nailed it. You nailed it. So, uh, also known for screamers and then writer B.J. Nelson, also known for Scanners

three, the takeover. Getting into our trivia, to appease the MPAA, which was being particularly critical of horror movies during that era, the filmmaker shut numerous variations of scenes to enable them to create R-rated, unrated, and TV edits. of the film. All right. Well, that's thinking outside the box. During the shoot,

you should love this one, Brian, because this is going to strike close to home for you. During the shoot, the crew braved freezing temperatures, which bottomed out at 40 below. That's just, that's a May afternoon for you, isn't it?

40 below? 40 below. I've never experienced temperatures like that. And cause them to shut down production for a day. So that's impressive in and of itself, right? For a day? That's what it's all. I'm just reading it, folks.

So scanners too, Brian, what did you think? I kind of liked it. I mean, by no form or fashion does it hold up to the original one. Okay. But I kind of felt like this was like a movie. B-length episode of Black Mirror. Oh, interesting. All right.

Just the way you had these scanners kind of throughout civilization, throughout people that were being hunted down by the government to use them. Okay. Especially the one guy, what was he

trying to become police chief and then governor? He was trying to use scanners for his own personal gain. Yeah, personal gain. sure um i do wish there were because there was one really good scene the kill scene and that was in the convenience store when he made that guy's head explode and that was about it right wasn't it like super mild other than that yeah kind of felt like they used their whole budget for that one kill scene felt like it because it was super cool because he was doing a scanner thing and the guy couldn't get out the store and then you've seen his veins start bubbling and he's been so he's been bubbling and he's been so he's and then his head just exploded and all this goo just came shooting out and I was like this is fucking awesome but then

every kill after that it was just kind of like kind of bland even the final showdown to me was kind of unimpressive yeah because you had all the scanners that were being drugged they were basically addicts on this drug

that kind of what was it supposed to stop them from using their powers they got addicted to it and there was like side effects and they were all. Yes. It kind of looked like cancer patients. They did. Yeah, they did. They were kind of like losing their hair and their skin was all flaky and you could see their veins and everything.

Yeah, I like how they all kind of basically woke up and was helping the main character to defeat the evil scanner. I'll just call them the evil scanner. But you didn't really. One billion dollars. You didn't really get to see what happened to it. You got to saw the after effects. I know.

He's kind of burnt out. That was lame, dude. Are you sure we didn't catch the TV edited version of this or something? Man, this was super fucking lame with some of the kills. I watched mine on YouTube. Hmm. I watched mine on Amazon Prime. So it kind of sounds like we both got the same copy, so I'm going to say the MPAA board really got to them.

I threw Bezos a bone. because God knows he needs it, right? Found mine on YouTube. Good old trusty YouTube. Well, good for you, as Philip would say in his best imitation of what's his name, Christian, not Christian Slater. Who am I thinking of?

Christopher Watkin. The guy who played Batman? Which one? Christian Bale. Christian Bale. Oh. You got to say, like, you're yelling at somebody. That's true.

Yeah, I can't pull it off like Philip can. But Phillips got the best Arnold, except last week. His Arnold impression sucked. He did one last week? He said, get down. Yeah, at the very beginning of the Halloween commentary. You guys were talking about the opening scene, and the cop said, get down. And Phillips goes, Schwarzenegger should have played that role.

Oh, yeah. forgot. But Scanners too. I thought the acting was fine. Nothing, nothing bad, nothing great. It's kind of serviceable. But yeah, it just felt like a super long black mirror episode with the scanners being controlled

by the government. Not really the government because this guy was kind of working. Rogue, so to speak. Yeah, rogue with his own little He was on the little scientist and... Sure. Assassinating the governor and... Making the governor before he assassinated her,

making her elect him as new chief of police. Which was weird because she knows... That was weird. Yeah. She knew that's not what she wanted to do, so why would you go ahead and continue with it? Brian, was it just me, or did they kind of change the rules in this one of how scanning works? Yeah, because he

Doing body swapping and Body swam which I thought was cool Mm-hmm But they never introduced that in the I know Those seem like scanners that had been Used to their powers Yeah, it did

But I did I did think it was cool the whole body swapping And able to see through their eyes And But it was just weird It was kind of like Star Wars episode one when jeddies can like run like the flash and can do all kinds of stuff

it's like where were these powers before yeah like lucas rewriting the Jedi powers and yeah yeah I got you I hear you but overall I thought it was an enjoyable movie I didn't hate I didn't come out wishing I never watched it or felt like I wasted any time I am curious to see where the story goes for the third one I think the third one is also on you too well maybe one of our hint hint maybe one of our patreon patrons will suggest it

and if not we'll probably just pick it anyway right and the main guy kind of looked from a david canadian born actor i know david few less the the british actor this guy was in

rise of the planet of the apes Cube. Sure. I mean, I'm sure we've seen him in something. Oh, I do recognize him in Cube. Which one was he? He was, I was going to say the asshole guy, but there's a few assholes in that movie. Well, I mean, when you're in that situation, right?

It's like every person for themselves. I think the guy that they found out helped build the place. Oh, okay. He helped construct the place. Yes, yes. I knew he looked a little bit familiar. And so now that you're saying that, that doesn't make sense.

But yeah, overall, I thought it was an enjoyable movie for a sequel to something so iconic as the original scanners. Yeah, and so different, right? Like, not just the new powers and stuff, but like the way it was filmed was completely different. It like wasn't as artsy as the, as the Cronenberg movie. And it definitely wasn't as gory and bloody, right?

Well, besides the convenience store scene. Yeah, the one convenience store kill. And then other than that, like you said, even at the very, like the boss level kill, if you want to call it that at the end, even that you just only saw the aftermath, right? Yeah, which would have been so cool because you just saw his burnt remains.

and I was just kind of like I was kind of cheesy man I was like how did that happen why didn't we get to see that? I know I know they definitely ran out of budget or something or they either ran out of budget

or capability right I need to do some digging maybe there's a director's cut on Blu-ray or something because that trivia about the MPA getting involved. Okay, well. Maybe there was more gore your kills in there. I would hope so.

Yeah, because, I mean, even at times, Brian, it almost felt almost kind of TV movie-ish to me. Yeah, it had that feel. I don't know if it was that, though, or more of an early 90s thing, you know? Hard to say. Yeah. What was this 91?

So it could have been like straight to video. Yeah, 91. Scanners to the new order. Oh, man. So I guess your takeaway then is that it was fun, but not a masterpiece? Not a masterpiece, fun. I mean, if you don't watch it, you'll be okay. if you say I've only seen the first scanner movie

you don't have to beat yourself up about never seeing the sequels because they're if I can remember the movie correctly I don't even think they really mentioned anything any of the events of the first movie I don't think so either it was kind of like its own thing right and then you get the back story about the family

that he didn't know he had and the sister and yeah which would have been a perfect opportunity to connect it to the first movie. Right. When you found out he was adopted, I was just kind of like, oh, he's got to be related to somebody

from the first movie, and no, they just talk about a sister. And then introduce her, and she's a scanner. Of course. It made sense, though. It was a decent,

I have to admit, it was a decent story. It, it started, look, when it started out, okay, and you get that one, that one character, at the beginning that was so unhinged, you know, that was like running through where all the pinball machines were.

That guy was hamming it up. You know what? And I just realized something, Brian. I knew I recognized him. Do you remember? Did you watch Mayans all the way through after Sons of Anarchy? No, I tapped out. That was, that was Taza Romero, one of the, one of the main Mayans.

So I'm like, I know that guy from somewhere. I had to look it up. I'm cheating. I'm pulling up IMTP, but now I know where I recognize them from. But yeah, when this movie started off, man, I was like, this is going to be really, really, really, really, really bad. Because the opening graphics to like credits and then the big scanners to the new order comes out and bright yellow letters. And it's like, oh, here we go. This is going to be like really, really, really, really.

bad early 90s horror um but i'm with you man that the story wasn't terrible and it was it was enjoyable at least wouldn't you agree yeah i thought about like i said it has me interested in continuing the series to go check out the third one well i'll i'll definitely tell you this because you know i've i've read every stephen king novel ever and you know but between us we've i'm sure we've seen all of, you know, most if not all of the, the movies. But yeah, that place where they were training the scanners, that was very, very Stephen Kingish, Brian. Because he's got that place that they refer to as the shop. And if you'll remember Fire Starter, for example.

Yes. And they worked to shop into several other movies. And then he wrote a book called The Ender. institute about probably five or six years ago that was actually um it was kind of like a shop but but but but like the next generation you know like the shop got shut down by the government and then they reopened as the institute so it that was very very shoppish you know definitely got that vibe so i'm i'm going to i'm going to guess that the that the person who wrote this movie was was a Stephen King fan, just a wild guess.

And then, of course, you've also got the, well, I mean, you know how it is in a lot of the Stephen King stories, Brian, where you've got different characters that have the same superpowers. And then they'll like, you know, some manipulative force will send the other one out to kill one of them. And then you got that in this movie as well, right? Yeah. So, yeah, I just saw a whole bunch of Stephen King influence that was like pretty, pretty, blatant, like referring to the shop. I didn't hate the way they did it. I kind of thought it was a little

over the top when they were going around and giving them their medicine, and they literally had their, they were so addicted to it that they had their arm like sticking up in the air, right? Like, hey, bring me my needle. Bring me my needle. Kind of over the top. Would you agree? Yeah, that was. But overall, I'm kind of in agreement with you. I mean, It was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. I'm going to tell you that when I started watching this movie, Brian, I was I was kind of, I was settled in for an hour and a half movie that was going to feel like it was three hours long,

but definitely pleasantly surprised. And I like some of the twists. You know, I did kind of like him finding out that that wasn't his real family that raised him and that, you know, the scanner thing was hereditary. I do have one little bee. with the movie though what's that how convenient is it that the milk murderer that they keep referring to through the early parts of the movie just happens to be one of these people that's an employee at the shop I'm gonna call it the shop and then he's like how did he

figure out it was him did he well he read his mind duh he scanned him right yeah the police couldn't do an investigation was that not a was that wasn't a totally necessary subplot was it i kind of took it they made him do that to make him feel like he was doing good work so later when they asked him to do other things he wouldn't really second guess it oh so you think you think they set him up yeah yeah here do some good at first. That way, when we ask you to do something else, we'll just tell you

it's for good reasons. So they had the whole thing choreographed then. Yeah, that's kind of how I took it. Oh, no, no, that makes perfect sense. I think I missed that. I just saw it as being like a coincidence that the guy just happened to work there. And they just happened to be showing all those

milk murderer headlines in the montage in the early part of the movie but yeah I like your answer a lot better dude that makes a lot more sense for the storytelling for sure so you're uh you're recommending it yeah I am

okay scores oh man I'll go I'll go 6 on 10 I liked it more than I didn't and it was it was no scanners man and you know me I don't think David Cronberg's the best

Croninberg Yeah, I've heard you say that a few times. Six on ten. I will go one point higher and give it a seven. Nice. That's a Zimvader, right? Is it a seven of an infamous Zimvader? Yeah.

Okay. And I've found you can get Scanners 2 and 3 in a double pack Blu-ray on eBay for 1395 with free. shipping. I think I'll just watch it on Amazon Prime. I think I'm going to buy it. So is it like a steel book? Or is it just kind of like a collector's edition?

Blu-ray DVD combo so you get the Blu-ray-D DVD. Double feature collector's edition. Both movies and both formats for $13. There you go. Boom. All right. Six and seven, so we both recommend it. Yeah.

All right. Join us on a dazzling cinematic adventure down the highway to hell. A winding route that stretches from here to eternity. Discover the warm, discover the warm, energetic, inventive, and friendly inhabitants of hell. Can you tell me the quickest way to hell? Sex, drugs, rock and roll. Share with them their traditional crafts and delicious local cuisine.

All right, on to the next movie. Highway to Hill. What year do you think this movie came out considering the theme of our show tonight, Brian? I'm going to say 91. Look at the big. brain on Brian. And a loping bride is taken into hell and her fiance must pursue. Sure.

That's as good a description as any. Director Atte de Jong. This is a fake name if I've ever seen one. Ad de jang, whatever. Also known, do you remember Drop Dead Fred, the imaginary friend? Classic movie. Well, there you go. now the writer

Brian has gone on to a lot more fame and glory and that would be the very very famous Brian Helgeland is that name familiar yeah looking at the show notes I recognize some of these movies yeah once or twice right

a knight's tale 42 and Mystic River so I believe probably the Academy Award winning Brian Helgeland I'm going to guess. And then you got this in the movie, Ben Stiller, ad-libbed his dialogue as Pluto's cook. Oh, this is kind of neat, man.

On Hellcomp's chin are the letters S.J. plus LQ, which stands for Steve Johnson, who was, I guess, a makeup artist on the movie. And his wife, the lovely Linnea Quigley. some guys get all the lot don't they so highway to I'm on a highway to hell they dropped the ball not playing that song

in here huh yeah I'm sure that costs a money yeah what did you think man was your takeaway I had fun with this one too I thought it was a fun wacky not really horror more fantasy adventure

totally totally man yes i had to do get it i do i had to do a double take when i saw the main actor because i was like is that rob low and then i had to look and know it's yeah though like a blonde rob low right yeah this is his brother chadlow in the lead you have christie swanson my buffy the vampire slayer no offense to Sarah Michelle

Gellard and Nez's and Nezes I'll add This is who I seen first Yep Yep Uh C.J. Graham is Sergeant Bedlam The Hell Cop Which was uh

Chasing in Friday 6 And that was just the beginning of the When you start into the cameos in this movie dude Once they get into hell Yeah we got a Ben Stiller Jerry Stiller their sister Amy Stiller

Okay Ben Stiller's mom Anna Anna Anna Maria and Hilbert Gilbert Godfrey as Hitler He stole the show in my

opinion That was great I remember this movie dude I've seen it before and the only reason I remember this movie was was because of Gilbert

Godfrey Hitler Yeah, this is my second time watching it. I remember other than Gilbert, Sergeant Bedlam, C.J. Graham's character. Okay. I always like to look at him with the gun and the police car that drives through different dimensions from the real world to hell. Yeah, the special effects got a little rough there, didn't they? It's fine for the time it was. Okay.

This is 91 and plus this is not a big. budget movie looking at the the budget was seven and a half million dollars well yeah to us that's a lot but you know sure to make a movie even in the early 90s that's conservative right says here gilbert godfrey reprises role as adolf hitler from the film in the comedy television series historical ross that would make perfect sense yeah That would make perfect sense because he played him spot on. Yeah. I mean, overall, that's a simple story.

Christy Swanson gets kidnapped, taken to hell. The, I guess he's like the devil, Beasel. Well, yeah, but like he said, he has many facets, right? Yeah. Well, that was just one of me that you saw, right? He wants to keep Christy Swanson because she's a virgin, and he wants an heir, a male heir, to his throne.

Despite what Lil Lowe said, they didn't quite consummate when they were in that pento, did they? Oh, she said not in a pinto. Not ever in a pinto. And what did you say, close your eyes and pretend it's a Porsche

or something? Yeah. Doesn't work like that. Yeah, well. And you know, you got that big fucking light up pizza slice on the top of it. That can't help. That's not exactly. a mood setter, is it? Yeah, but I'm sure

he got some at the end because I hope so. This guy drove to hell to rescue her. Well, and that's, I want to get into that. You know what? Before we move on, I don't want to forget, so can we do,

are you okay if I give you Phillips scores real quick since he can't be with us tonight? All right, Philip says, I have seen Scanners 2 when I was young. it gets a seven the heads exploding and ethical questions about using the powers and responsibility were great. Sounds like a Spider-Man quote

to me, but okay. So Philip gives it a seven. And then he said, I don't know how I've never seen Highway to Hell, but it was great. He gets an eight. It was like a fantasy adventure movie. I love the effects. I loved how cheesy it was.

And it's very obvious why Roblo's brother didn't get very far in Hollywood, but he was perfect for this movie. Right on, Philip. I think you nailed it. My review of this movie, Brian? Mm-hmm. This is, and I'm probably only thinking of this. This is probably only front of mine because I just saw that TV series on Netflix,

Chaos that I was telling you guys about a couple of months ago. Yeah. About the Greek mythology. This is literally the story of Orpheus and Euridese. And this was like basically she was taken to hell because she ate like a pomegranate that had poison ended or something like that. And he was a bard, you know, like a traveling menstrual or something like that. He wasn't, he wasn't a god or a demigod. He was just like a regular guy.

And he loved her so much that he convinced the fairy man to take him to hell. And he was able to go back there and he was going to bring her back. and at the end of the story, she said, I don't want to go back because she'd fallen in love with someone undead there in hell. So classic Greek tragedy, Brian,

he doesn't leave. He gets his head chopped off and it's permanently floating in a river, but unable to drink the water. Now, what do you think about that? Sounds pretty crazy. Not a happy ending, huh? No.

So anyway, that was my takeaway. This was a pretty blatant. latent retailing that you even had the ferryman there right that had to get him get them across the water and then I think obviously whoever you know wrote the script

or made some decisions on the movie was kind of a fan of of older cars because he was like you know you got to the old man told him you got to hey take this particular car and bring it back and he said oh man that's a cool old car you know so

yeah got a little mad maxie there for a second it it did yeah it absolutely did and um yeah it's what a fun movie man i cannot believe i've missed this one either and then you know a lot of manipulative manipulativeness or manipulation i guess on the part of the the devil because you don't really know who he is because he can change himself to either look like a you know devil out of you know picture story bibles or you know kind like just a normal guy yeah did i did i miss something why why was the kid in hell what did he do i apparently you and i both missed that one because maybe maybe he was maybe he died young too young to be judged and he was in purgatory or something you think yeah maybe i don't know but it was like

he was there but then he made a decision once he met this this this great guy right with a heart of goal to go back with him. That's the good thing about it, right? They Americanized it from the Greek tragedy. He didn't get his head chopped off floating in water forever. He actually got to win the girl and get her back. So happy ending, right? You ready to for scores? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go eight on this one, man. This is a, if we had, if this had come out this year, it would probably be in my, we'd be talking about at the end of the year. It was so much fun, very theatrical. You know, you know, I love that the only thing missing for me was a musical number, okay? Yeah, we could have had one of them from one of the Stillers.

That would have been great. Love the cameos, love Gilbert Gottfriede's Hitler, you know, love the waiting room, love the play on words, like they were paving the road with good intentions. You get it, Brian? Get it. You get it? Got it. What did you think? I will give it a seven and a half.

I like the story I like the effects for what it was the cameos I didn't think Chad Lowe was that bad in it no it was fun he was fine very and I love the look of Sergeant Bedlam

I did too and I love that gun that was really cool seven and a half all right as always we want to thank you guys for listening to a yet another episode of the horror returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com.

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stellar job of keeping us up to date on our socials. So those are going to be there. Like I said, next week I'd love, love, love, love, love to invite Steve Carlton to join us because I know he's a huge fan of the exorcism of God. And we're going to watch that as well as the brand new heretic. So until the horror returns again, good night. Thank you.