The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #442: The Exorcism Of God (2021) & Heretic (2024)

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

Steve from The Geekz joins us to talk some religious horror. Cool of the week includes Die Alone, It's Whats Inside, Young Rock, and Cobra Kai. Trailer is Ash. The podcast spotlight shines on Log it! Another Movie Podcast. And we get feedback from Travis Johnson, Darin Schuman, Christian Frey, Jack Martz, David Holmes, and Rob Stone. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back. One and all to the horror returns. I'm Lance. With me, as always, we got Philip back from last week. How's it going? Good, good. Good to see you, man.

Yeah. We're good. Was Rose's birthday a success? Yeah, I mean, more or less. We didn't do a whole lot. We got a car fixed, but, you know. Hey, that's a hell of a. Brian is back.

As every fucking week, Brian is back. The glue that holds this podcast together. What's up, man? Yeah, I'm barely here. I'm sick today. But you're here. You're here. You're here.

And from the Geeks, returning champions, Steve Carlton. What's going on? Hey, hey, fellas. Thanks for having me. I heard you were doing a little religious horror, so thank you for the invite. All right, man, what's up with the geeks?

Fill us in. What do you guys up to? Well, we just did our 31 days of horror that ended, but didn't end because we still have many movies to put out. We recorded way more than 31. We had some lost episodes from last year we didn't put out. Like, it's, but we're still watching them. Like, we're doing three more movies this week because we're just having fun watching all the horror movies.

So it's, we're doing that. Did I miss something or did you guys not, not do a spoiler. Did you all forget to do a spoiler alert for lowlifes when you started getting it? We did it right. We did it right in the beginning. It was pretty early in the show. It was like, okay, we have to talk about it. It's going to happen.

Yeah, it's, we definitely spoil everything. It's, don't listen to it if you haven't watched it yet. That's the fun part. But you guys watch Low Lives after, I mean, I love that movie. And you guys, you guys talked a little bit about it on your 31 days, but I didn't really get, you didn't go too much into it. So what do you think? Brian?

I loved it. It was a surprise. Especially for a Tobe movie. But I feel like Tooby's stepping it up, though, lately. 100%. I love Timmy rules. Did you watch a trailer for the movie? No. If you watch the trailer, it makes the movie even better.

Because the trailer cuts it as like what you think the movie starts as. The family, the fucking psycho family in the woods and the real good family. It cuts it like a traditional movie. So it's wild. The trailer is a complete other twist. It's really good. So anybody listening that hasn't seen low-life son to be? High recommend all around?

Yeah. I haven't watched it. I got to see it. Oh, come on, man. I know, man. We can't say any more than. No, I've got a few things on my list now. The substance apparently is very good, and I haven't seen that one.

Me neither. It's on my list. Yeah. It's a long movie. It's like, it is. It's a commitment. I have no idea what it even is. I've heard of it, but that's it.

Got my hair sticking up. It's a good thing this is an audio. I put my finger in a socket. What else? We're still doing the Star Geeks on Wednesdays. Last week they did the music of John Williams. And then this week, I think we're doing like a deep dive on bounty hunters. So still doing the Star Wars thing over there.

And then, uh, the geeks is just the geeks. Just we talk about what we talk about. A bunch of tape talk. I've come up on a whole bunch of tapes over the last couple weeks. I drove out to some sketchy ass ladies' house in the middle of nowhere. What? At night. Well, like, it's night, but it was like seven.

But, you know, or it was like six, but, like, it's super dark already. But, like, she's like, oh, go down the road. It'll get to a dirt road and keep going. And, like, it got to a dirt road and kept going. But she said she had bins and bins of VHS for free. I'm like it's worth the risk. I ended up like a, she didn't want to give me the bins, so I just had to like dump them into my car.

The whole back of my car is filled with the tapes. I'll sell you the tapes, boy, but you ain't getting my bands. It was, it was a bunch of crap, but I did get like probably about 50 or 60 good tapes out of there, including Predator 2, which has been something on my freaking hunt list for a long time. So, yeah, so that was pretty cool. And like this one, I just, I picked up this one too, like this cool red dawn with like this Russian writing on the front. Oh yeah. Freaking sweet.

And then also like the Jaws special edition with like a interview with Steven Spielberg. That's sort of some money right there. I got some cool stuff. Cool, cool stuff. Also, you know, got to add a little some of the some of the movies that made a young man who he is today. Some Paul Verhoeven going there. So, yeah. Yeah, so a lot of tape stuff.

Well, that's pretty much it. All right. Well, welcome to the show. You know how we start it, man. Cool of the week. What you got? So I finally saw Terifier 3. I know you guys did your review on it.

I think my ranking for that's going to probably go for the series. It would go 2-1-3, even though I still really liked three. I still really liked three. But, like, almost at times I felt like it was too much. I'm like, like one character got killed off screen, and I was like, Oh, thank God. Just give me a breather. God damn.

It's just so much. It's two and a half hours of killing. Yeah, pretty much. Which, which, no complaints, but I feel like two was the better overall movie. Like, kill to story ratio. And then this one's cool, though. It started dipping into the religious shit towards it. And I was like, uh-oh.

Are we going somewhere where I'm more comfortable? I like this. Right. So that was really cool. Not my cool of the week, but that was up there. Did you guys see Mr. Crockett on Hulu? Yes. Yeah.

Like the movie. Very cool. Very cool. Practical Effect movie. Very, very good. Not my cool of the week. The cool of the week goes to Die Alone, which is a little movie that I watched. It's out there.

You can find it. I'm not sure where it's streaming. But it stars Frank Grillo and Carrie Ann Moss. And this is like a... zombie movie, but it's more drama, I would say, than horror. There are some zombies. There's some motherfuckers to get eaten. But that's not the point.

Like, the point is trying to unravel this one character and why he can't remember shit every day. He has to reset his memory. And then once you, when you get down to, like, who people are and what the story is, it's devastating and fucking heartbreaking and fucked up. And it's a really, really, really good movie with a sweet ending and very, very good.

So high praise in my cool of the week is definitely going to die alone. But I'd be remiss if I didn't say also hysteria, which I'll be finishing tonight after we're done recording, the shell on Peacock. The Peacock original hysteria is phenomenal. Bruce Campbell's killing it. And Julie Bowen is also awesome, the mom from a modern family. Both of those are very, very good. now. And that's it for me. That's a lot.

That's a lot, man. You always bring your game. But, Philip, you should have at least two weeks' worth now, right? Yeah, I've actually got a couple things. So, I watched a couple of weird time travel movies. I was off on a Netflix kick. One of them was

damn it. I can't even remember the name. Time cut. It's like Okay. Yeah, we saw that. Yeah, Teenage time travel Slasher, basically. It's on subgenre, Philip. It's as cheesy. It's as cheesy as you would think it is.

I mean, it's a fun watch, but, you know. The dialogue made me made me throwing the towel 10 minutes in. I was like, I don't want to watch this. I don't like me. Was it that bad thing? It's very young. I don't know what any of these words mean.

It's very young adult. I'm not. I don't like you. these people. And then I watched predestination, which I had never seen before, with Ethan Hawke,

and the chick from Succession, the red-headed girl. Okay. And that one was pretty interesting. Oh, that movie was fucked up. I don't know about it.

Yeah, it was very fucked up. It was definitely a mind-fugged. Apparently it's a short story from like the 50s. It's like a thought experiment. Philip Kate Day. Yeah, and I hate to give too much of it away.

But a very interesting personal story of one particular person, sort of. I'm pretty sure there's country songs written about this scenario in particular. I'm my own grandpa coming back. Yeah, there you. Which is the song that gets sang in the movie. No. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

he's like humming it as he's walking along. It's a crazy move. Yeah. It was in Meet the Feebles, right? Great, great, no. Great performances. Not quite as sci-fi or action-packed, but interesting. Okay.

It was worth it. But my cool of the week is going to go, I think it's called, it's what's inside. That sounds familiar. Yeah, that's the Netflix movie. Brian, we both saw it. It was very bodies, bodies, bodies, like these old Haskell friends get together and, but like one guy has, is like a super genius

and he's got this suitcase where he can like hook electrodes to your head and you switch bodies. And so they're playing this game to figure out whose mind is in which body. Very cool concept. Yeah, it is. It's a very cool concept. And of course, they're all young and hot, so they end up all fucking each other. I hated every one of the people in the movie.

Everyone. Except for the girl that comes in at the end, who's actually not the girl. It's the guy. And I don't think this is giving it too much away, but a couple of them die. And then they're like, while they're out of each other's bodies. And so they're like, yeah. So they're like, oh, shit, now what do we do? That was a cool moment.

Like, it definitely, I wasn't expecting that. I'm like, oh shit, what are they going to fucking do? Like, what would you do if you're like, I'll switch potty? And you're in, you're looking at yourself and then you die. You're like, oh, what the fuck? Like, now I'm just this person forever? Like, what the fuck? Ripping a blunt, taking a shot and being like, yeah, man, let's try some new technology

where we go into each other's bodies. That sounds like a fun fucking party game. It's not like you're just, now you have to take on that person's whole life. Who were they messed up with? You know, what drama are they got? What is their job? No, their job sucks. Like, oh, no.

But that one was a fun movie. That's going to be my cool of the week, I think. Cool. Out of those three. Although predestination is a runner up there. It was pretty good. I kind of enjoyed it. Philip, Brian.

Brian wasn't a fan. Yeah. You know. It was like bodies, bodies, bodies, but different. It's got a side kick on the geeks. Got a side kick on the guy. That's a good, if you want to pair to make a double feature

because it had the same tone except I felt bodies, bodies, bodies those characters were a little bit more likable. Very much. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, everybody was kind of shitty in this movie. Yeah, that's true. Which you know, means you didn't really care when they die or whatever. Yeah, that's the idea. That's the concept.

All right, Brian, what's you got? I had no time for nothing, but me and my daughter, we did binge all three seasons of Young Rock. It was... Wow. All right. Quick, easy. It got me to reminisce about the old wrestling days. Oh, yeah.

Where is that? Yeah. It's on Peacock. Right? Yeah, I remember Nez talking about it. Yeah. He's a. the stories are true, but the

current timeline is fictional because he's running for president and he's doing his campaign. So he's like telling stories that relate to like certain things during his campaign. And it's just nice seeing like the old days and stuff. Stuff you didn't know like how close he was. I knew his father and his grandfather were wrestlers, but just the people that he hung around with as a child, like Andre the Giant

and Macho Man, like, these were people that were, like, closely with him as a child. Yeah, he was born for this. And it's sad that they show up, Brian? Are people playing them show up or the real? Andre can't show up because he died a long time ago, Lance. Okay. And macho man died. again

Ressing Died Dyeed Yeah I don't know how Hulk Hogan and Rick Flair are still alive But

Oh they're Not the actual people But they show up too Oh yeah Yeah But I mean There's a lot of deaths In the wrestling

era A lot of drugs and steroids They don't mix well together And it's a shame The show got canceled after three seasons because season three ended off when

he got the role and the mummy returns so right when his acting career was about to take off no Vince McMahon slander on this show so I really want to watch the Vince McMahon thing on Netflix is it any good I haven't watched it

because someone told me it's nothing you haven't really heard as far as like the stuff the negative stuff about him. Is that what it is? Is it a hit piece on Vince?

I don't know. Vince's life is a hit piece on Vince. I watched wrestling in the attitude era and I knew back then I was like he's going to jail at some point. Oh, he's, somebody's going to jail. He's cooked because I think it was today

or yesterday more females came out with allegations toward him. Oh, well, I guess that doesn't surprise me. Slowly. you're not shocked every week there seems to be more and more

Stacey Keebler's whole character arc was that she was his sexually like a harassed secretary that was her character You remember the Tristatist days when he had her strip

and barked like a dog in the ring Yeah Oh yeah I do definitely Sit off on paper you yeah So Back then man Just nobody wanted to say anything, but we all knew. But we all still clapped and paid the bills.

Now his wife's in a little trouble, too, because there's allegations that she helped cover up some of these incidents. Sure. So. But Benson Man's a whole other podcast. Yes, the wrestling returns. Coming back when, Brian? Whenever I find.

the time. We haven't done streampeen since early this year. Not like we get fucking paid for this shit. Exactly. But that's all I had time for. It was Young Rock.

It's quick watch, fun. Sure. On down memory lane. My daughter had a lot of questions about, because she's slowly not a wrestling fan, but she does watch the new stuff with me and she does have questions. every now and then.

She was familiar with certain characters like Andre the Giant because she knows like the Princess Brun, what was it, the Princess Bride? Yep. Oh, yeah. The Princess Bride. She knows him from that, so to see

like a different side of him on the show because he's probably one of my favorite recurring characters on the show. Okay. Yeah, sounds like a fun watch, man, just binging through the seasons quickly. How many episodes a season? Oh,

I think 10. Maybe a little bit more. It's not long. They're like 30, 40 minute episodes, if that. Well, they aired on network TV, right? Yeah. So then, yeah, they're probably take out the commercial breaks. You're probably looking at

25 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. So Young Rock. All right. Well, I was going to do a two for Brian because last week, I think mine, was it last week that mine was Tulsa King? Yeah. All right. I was considering Tulsa King season two because all the crazy, ridiculous, outlandish sons of anarchy shit that happened in the first season, like doubles or triples in this one. But I'll lay that aside, Brian.

I haven't gotten all the way through season two yet, but it's a great job. You haven't? Yeah. No. We're working on it. We're working on it, Philip. But it's not over yet, is it right? We're on like episode four, but there's like one or two more that still need to air, right?

I think so. Yeah, I think I'm just going to wait and binge it. I think we're getting there. Think we're getting there. I haven't started season two yet. Yeah, well, it's, you remember how outlandish number one was, like some of the shit they got away with? And like, you remember sons of anarchy? Yeah, of course.

You know the storylines. just like I said double it in that season two. Yeah. So it's fun. I shot that cop in the face. And got away with it. Yeah. It's good, clean, fun, but also good clean fun, guys.

I finally finished the first arc of what Brian told me is going to be a three-part arc, and that's the part one of Cobra Kai, the final season. Just in time. God. This movie is so, again, silly and outrageous, but you just can't fucking stop watching. Like, I got to that scene where, um, the, uh, what's, what's the character's name that was the bad, the bad coach, help me out here. Crease. Yeah, crease. Yeah, crease.

Where he went over, I guess, to China. And he's trying to recruit the, the players to be on his team or the players. I'm out of touch with. Yeah, that one, that one dude in China beat the brakes off of them. Other kids, that one, by the fires, those little box fires. Holy shit. Yeah, the one, you don't have discipline. You don't have respect.

You're number one. Shouldn't have said it like that. But anyway, let's see where they sit crease into the cave. He came out with that fucking cobra. Oh, yeah. He can barely walk. That guy. Did he punch it?

Like Van Dam. Probably. But, like, what I like about the show is that, like, people just randomly spontaneously jump into fighting karate, like, in the streets in the fucking bar. Karate fight, man. It's just something that happens. Like, I want to live in this town. I don't want to live where I got, like, homeless people hitting me. I'm trying to break into my work truck.

Yeah. I want to live where people have, like, karate fights on the street, and then, you know, we have a separate ways. Everywhere. There's a scene where they're going to a frat party, and you know. no. Oh, yes. And that was one of the best karate fights ever. That was great. Gas station, karate fight. Karate fights in the woods. Karate fights everywhere. Karate fights in the batting cages. Karate fight central. I love it. Yes. If you're, if you know martial arts in this town, you're like a legend automatically. That's right. That's right.

Because Johnny's trying to Try to buy a house and immediately gets recognized You're Johnny You run Yall Valley The All Valley You won this thing like In real life 40 fucking years ago

Only people in the audience were the parents of the kids that were fighting That was the only people In that movie the whole fucking county Was in that audience I know Grandparents Oh, God. It was wild.

Yeah, I love it. But I love it so much. Half the actors of the show are grandparents, right? Hell, crease may be a great grandparent, right? I love that. Somehow, somehow, people like Dimitri are the best in the country that are going to fucking Brazil to go, I'm like this motherfucker right here. Dungeons and Dragons nerd turned karate champ.

I love it, though. It gives me. It gives me Power Rangers vibes. You know, it's striking all those chords. They're just missing the suits, really. But all the drama's there. And, you know, it's better than it has any right to be in it. It just, it plays with all those characters so well.

It knows what it is. It doesn't take itself too seriously. But then it does. Then it's like, we're going to pull out a sword and threaten to stab him, motherfucker. You're like, oh, my God. Yeah. We're going to kick this kid off of a fucking ledge, and he's going to break the fucking back.

Oh, my God. So it does take some risks. I love the show. It's very, very good. All right. Cool of the week. Cobra Kai. Brian, you got any horror headlines for us?

Yeah, I got some, let's see. Andre Overdahl. You guys know him. He's directed such movies as Troll Hunter, The Autopsy of Jane Doe, and scary stories to tell him the dark. Okay. He is directing a film adaptation

of the video game, Bendy and the Ink Machine. Oh, my kids love it. I don't know what the fucking is, but yeah. Never heard of it. Never heard of it, Philip. I'm out of touch. My kids play it too.

It's like, it looks almost like old Steamboat Willie style animation. Yeah. And it's all about like ink. Ink is like a problem. My son would know all about it, but it is, it does have some very creepy, creep factors to it. But it's very cartoony, so I just wonder if it's going to be an animated movie or a Yeah, it's like the original version of Evil Mickey.

Yeah, it looks like it's something that was animated in like the 50s, like almost like Cuphead. Yeah. Let's see. Have you guys seen the horror comedy Black Sheep? I've heard of it. I've never gotten around to that one. It's a Blind Spot movie. I think I have.

David Barna, if you're listening, that's one we haven't covered for the show. I know you're struggling to find movies. currently in development. Sweet. More of what I haven't seen yet. I don't know what it's about. No Chris Farley this time. Wrong black sheep.

Oh, I've seen that black sheep. I just didn't think that would wind up in horror headlines. But like, I'll watch that movie just to see the hill scene all the time. Let's see. Mike P. Nelson. Lance, do you know him from the wrong? turn remake. Right.

What else is he done? He's done VHS segments. The domestics, we've reviewed that recently. That's a good one. That's a good one. Philip, you remember that one? They were on the cross-country road trip

in the post-apocalyptic world and they had the different roving bands. That's the one where Superman and Lois Lane played in that movie? Yes. Superman and Lois Lane from different things. Yes.

Mike P. Nelson is directing a silent night, deadly night remake, or reboot. Okay. I think we'll all be there. And isn't that the one with the production house is the same cats that do the terrifier movies? Yes. For the effects house. Oh, nice. Okay.

Very good. We're in. Now, this is rumored. the Babaduke writer and director Jennifer Kent is working on an adaptation of Clyde Barker's the thief of always. I've read everything he's written

but I couldn't tell you what that's about. Isn't that more of a fantasy leaning than horror leaning? I don't know, Lance. You're the book guy. I'm pretty sure it is. You just told us to read all this work. I was going to say that one actually sounds familiar but I haven't read it. I haven't read it.

Going back 40 years, Philip, you were talking about 40 years ago. I haven't read that one in about 30 or 40 years. Let's see. Lucy Hale has set the star in the sci-fi thriller White Mars about an evil entity attacking a research facility in Antarctica. Sounds familiar.

Awesome. I like all that. Anything like that, the thing, you know, secluded horror. Because you have that extra element. Not only you have the monster or whatever entity, you got, you can't just go outside. odd. Yeah, that's true.

It just adds that, you know, it just adds that extra. Very good. Antarctica's got a really cool mystery factor. I like it. What the fuck is over there? Kind of like Anchorage, Alaska. Maybe it's Atlantis. Maybe.

What's past the wall, Phil? There's fucking trees over there, man. No. There might be. I've read that. Let's see. That's the hollow earth thing. I'm cold

Yeah, it's a big theory. The little green kids came out from under there. There's a whole thing, man. No, there's some legit journals written from a guy that, like, flew to Antarctica, and that's where the hollow earth theory comes from. Like, because it's straight out of his journals. Now, he may be insane, which is what it sounds like. I heard he was tripping.

As you know, if it's written down on paper, it's the truth. But there were, he was, like, talking about. flying Nazi spaceships. I don't know, man. That sounds like that dude. Yeah, there's some weird shit from Antarctica. And that was, that was from like a military guy that did missions there.

Right. I can't remember. I can't remember what his name is, but those are in his journals. It's some weird shit. Sounds like, sounds like it's interesting reading, at least, right? Oh, yeah.

Oh, for sure. I love reading that show. I love that stuff. Let's see, Lil Rel. We all know who Lil Relo is. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

He is getting in the director's chair for a horror comedy, Haunted Heist, which he'll also star in with Tiffany Haddish. Oh, God. Okay. I'm in already. How do you feel about that, Brian? Let's see. Brian is not a Tiffany Haddish fan?

No, I think he's overrated. She's like the same thing in every movie. I guess that's what I feel about like with Melissa McCarthy. They're like, oh, she's going to be in it. I'm like, what is she going to do, fall down? Is she going to fall down on something? Kevin Hart. She's going to fall down and her feet are going to go up behind her, you know, like.

I heard Kevin Hart's really good in the Peacock show. Was it Fight Night? I haven't seen that one. I haven't seen that. He just got like super saturated there for a while. Although I, you know, I do love his Hulu commercial where he's like talking shit to LeBron James. Yeah, that's nasty. Raw pocket candy.

There was somebody that can run a 40, not somebody who is 40. That's just funny. Let's see here. Companion, a trailer we reviewed a few weeks ago from the, that's, a movie from the team that brought us Barbarian. Okay. Changed this release date to January

31st. If I remember the original release date, it's only like a two-week difference. So couldn't tell you what the movie's about, because I was very confused. I was confused and intrigued at the same at the same time watching the trailer.

It's kind of like Barbarian, though. That trailer was weird for Barbarian and I did not that movie was a ride man so it was definitely right I'm excited for whatever he does next let's see

he's actually I can't remember what the movie's called but he's doing one with Josh Brolin oh like Josh Brolin like follow up horror movie okay

which originally was Pedro Pascal but of course he had to drop out because he's going to be extremely busy he's in fucking everything. Yeah, that seems to be the Pedro Pascal thing is like

ah, well, he can't do this because he's signed there for something else. But do it now. Do it now while the Iron Top, man, freaking while you're getting all the rolls, do it because it ain't going to be there forever, man. Yeah, make your money. Lock him down. He's going to be Reed Richards for a while. Come on. He's got a very small part in last of the season two. So if you play the video games Oh, no.

Spoilers. I saw a meme where it was like, he always plays this badass, but he looks like the guy that you forgot fell asleep on your couch. Jesus. Let's see what else we got. Kevin Bacon and his wife,

Kyra Sedgwick, did I pronounce that right? She's also actress. Kira. Kira. They are set to direct and star in a horror comedy called Family Movie, which will also star their two children, Travis and Socie Bacon.

Hmm. Using the word children loosely. Yeah, no kid. Well, Osprey Bacon is like 30-scent. Well, I don't call my children offspring. I call them the Freeloaders. Oh, that's good. Only the older ones.

What is it called? Family movie? Family movie. That sounds like scary movie and it's going to be garbage. No, I bet it's going to be good. No, maybe it's like a scary take. What about that movie that just came out, like here or whatever it is with Tom Hanks, where it's like the movie takes place. The whole movie takes place from like a picture frame in the house or something.

What if it's like that, like a movie like a movie like that? That, but horror. All right. Scary is like all the crazy weird shit that happened in this house. That could be cool. That sounds cool, but that's probably what's not going to happen. Probably. No, probably not.

And then I was excited when you said Kevin Bacon, I was like, oh, more tremors news? No. That's what we keep thinking. We're hoping. When's the last thing that Kevin Bacon was in that was really good? The Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special. Excellent. All right, that's a one-off.

He was the main point of that whole thing. He was in our very first review. Yeah, the darkness. The darkness. That was shit. That was garbage. We started this whole thing with the darkness. He did that other movie, They Slash Them.

Oh. He also, let's not forget the one movie. Blanking not the name, but where he gets lost in the house. Yeah, well, there's like an extra section of the house or some bullshit. The book, the book was good.

I know, it looked like it was going to be a cool movie. Yeah, and it wasn't. I guess, I mean, he was in Maxine. I didn't see that, so. Yeah. He was the private detective. Oh, okay.

Yep. He was doing an accent. All right. I was just looking up his I'm going to admit he was okay in that I mean maybe he's awesome in the toxic Avenger that movie that was never going to come out I don't know yeah I don't understand the set is too controversial to come out that's what we want from a trauma movie no right I want to see TIRY and Lanister as a toxic Avenger

waddling after somebody as fast as he can I know what's the name hilarious I know Peter Dinklage is getting tired of people asking about it. He's like, I just acted in it. I don't, I'm not in the trouble how he releases it. He also did a movie and did you ever seen Copcar from 2015? Yeah, that was pretty good. Yes, that was actually really good. The director that did Clown, right? Yes, that movie was awesome. That movie was good. Kids do not fare well in that one. And then, of course, I'm a big fan of death sentence, the James Warren movie. I love that movie a lot. I mean, the gang is like, what the fuck is this?

This fucking weird, this gang of those stupid face-head tattoos. You weren't intimidated by them? I was not intimidated by Garrett Headland with a head tattoo, no. John Goodman was more intimidating. John Goodman fooled. As the gun guy, he was like, he's like, I know you're going to take all these guns and try to kill my son. He's like, and that's fine. Just give me your money.

But like, if you ask me where my son is, I'm going to fucking kill you. It's like, okay. That movie's awesome. John Goodman is kind of awesome. Yeah. Let's see. I'm going to mispronounce this name. Nick Yadu Jusu.

Okay, sure. We'll be writing and directing a fly reboot in which, and I was looking up this person's resume. Apparently they're also developing a Night of the Living Dead reboot. We don't need that either. Sounds like a fake name. Who the fuck does this guy think he is? No shit.

He ain't even done shit yet. You're killing here like, I'm going to remake the greats. Whoa, man. Why don't you do something first? Didn't work out very well with Halloween, did it? I mean, it worked out well for Zach Snyder. He came on the scene like, I'm going to remake Dawn of the Dead and we're like, what? And it was awesome.

Did a good job. Was that his first movie? At least that's the first one I saw. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think of it. I can't think. of anything I saw before that. There you have it. We'll see how it goes.

I know, I know Brian, Brian was watching the, the 25-hour-long director's cut of Rebel Moon. Was that worth it? Not done with it yet. Because I didn't really care. I mean, I like the first one. Not done with it, not because it's long. It's just, I put it. You know, when you put on stuff super late. Yeah. But immediately, they get to the bottom.

violence in the sex within the first 15, 20 minutes of it. What? That I don't remember. What? What's her name, Sophia Batella? Yeah. Oh, I'm in. She has a sex scene that I felt it just kept going that I don't remember from the first movie.

I think I've said, I always say it. We talk about Rebel Moon, but I mean, it's a bug's life. That's what that means is. It's the same story. Oh, yeah, I've heard you talk about that. They're literally, it's great, too. I've heard you talk about that. It's not even, it's the same actual product, too.

It's great. That's what the grasshoppers wanted. That's what these motherfuckers want. Hey, which, which, by the way, Steve, is the seven samurai. Right. I know. Yeah, it's, it's, exactly. It's all connected.

Re iterations of the original story. We'll talk about that one later tonight. Yes, we will. All right. A couple more news things here. Adam Wingard's next movie will not be a Godzilla movie. It will be a horror action movie. What do you mean, thank God? Not a fan.

The movies were way better than overrated Godzilla minus one. Oh. And I usually always agree with you. But I do think that Godzilla minus one was, was a little overrated. I liked it. I didn't think it was the greatest thing ever. I'm going to defend Brian on this one. I don't know if it's better. Really? Give me stupid fun action over dramatic.

They knew what they were and they did their job. I like Dan Stevens. Everything else I love Dan Stevens. Yeah, Stevens was great, but like I thought that the little monkey looked weird. I thought that the big orangutanes looked weird. I didn't think they looked good. Calm looked great. And Godzilla looked great. But everything else I thought looked like not fully realized. Like they all just looked a little shitty.

I'll go with that. I'll go with that. Of course you will, Lance. But speaking of Dan Stevens, he will be starring along with Adria, Ajorno. I'll probably pronounce her name wrong. In UFC middleweight Alex Pereira in Adam Wingard's action horror movie Onslaught. but will he be playing a piccolo? What, in the movie that you gave 9 out of 10 positive things for and then gave it a 2 out of 10?

Yes, you did. Go, bring the tape back. Which movie are you talking about that you gave it to? Cuckoo. Yeah, you did. That's right, you did. You were like, all these positive things. You're like, yeah, I didn't like it.

Like, what? It was a weird thing. Steve, I couldn't even do spoiler. on a movie because my brain was broken Well look, it was No night swim, okay? Oh, geez. Night swim.

Dude, Dane Dahan had been in night swim. We'd just, that would be all we'd ever talk about. Night swim wasn't even like all that terrible. It was just like a nothing movie. Like, it was just like that. Get a man, huh?

Yeah. And. we'll finish off news with Orphan 3 has officially been announced with Isabella Furman returning How? Is it another prequel? She's going to be like 80 years ago.

They better do it like Secret people. It can make it for present day. She's old, man. I mean, it makes sense if it was another prequel because it said she murdered like four families before she got to the original family

in the original movie. Oh, boy. So they're going to do that whole force perspective thing where they make her sit on her knees for the whole time they're filming and then swapping little kids from back shots on. She wasn't on her knees, she was criss-cross applesaw. Lance, just because you've grown, we're putting it on the schedule. Yeah, man. Oh, I cannot expect. explain to you how much I don't give a shit.

That first movie was just creepy. I didn't see the second movie. The first one was good. The first one was good. Like, Icky. It was picky. I don't know that I watched. I don't even know that I watched the second one.

I kind of didn't care. I was like, I think you did. I think you said it was your cool of the week one week. No, I think, I know you watched it because we knew you did. Oh, okay. Hey, I guess I watched it at some point. You know, I know I'm on here to record. and I, but as a listener, just because y'all reviewed, it doesn't mean shit about y'all watching it.

So, y'all released a whole ass show on The Last Voyage of the Demeter. That was funny. And I got to the end where their review was about to start, and any of y'all motherfuckers watched that movie. Not even the guys. Not even the guys. Everybody was banking on somebody else watching it. The fact that you guys, nobody watched it and nobody told anybody else that you didn't watch it. Yes.

Phenomenal. watching that unfold in front of us was great. Like that's how great of a movie this is. Because I think Brian was the last one, and I think he was like, he just stayed quiet the whole time. And it was like, Brian was like, I didn't see it either. Son of everybody. I was banking all right at the time.

Shout out to Adam Thomas, who was the guest. I for sure thought he watched it because he asked to be on that episode. so you keep talking about the pauper pants on that one yeah well the guy at the end I'm like blown opportunities I still haven't seen that fucking movie because I don't give a shit at all yeah you're good you're good

it's again though like it's it's one of those movies that has some really cool visuals some cool settings the acting is really good the the creature effects are good but when you get it as an overall package, it's just underwhelming. Something falls apart. I've got better things to do with my time. How about that?

I can't believe you didn't use this as a Van Helsing origin story. It's right. It's right. You have the guy, the one fucking guy who lives. Come on, man. No, Popper Pants. Moving on. We'll leave news at Piper Pants.

All right. That sounds. Dirty. Okay. All right, Brian. Now it's time to take a little trip down to the trailer park. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's our first new trailer tonight, Brian?

Our first and only trailer is for a sci-fi horror movie titled Ash. Let's see. It's got a synopsis pulled up. A woman wakes up on a distant planet. and finds the crew of her space station viciously killed. Her investigation into what happens sets in motion a terrifying chain of events. This is directed by Flying Lotus, which I believe he's a musician. I think he's done some...

Yeah, at least a couple of regular films, like feature-link films. Yeah. Yeah, I know the name. Like really weird stuff from what I hear. Yeah, this star is Eza Gonzalez, Aaron Paul, and the Rades, E.K. E.E.E.O.A.S. Aaron Paul? Is that one of the Paul brothers? No, that's Jesse. No, it's from Breaking Bow.

Oh, okay. All right. I was like, wait a minute. What are we doing? Bring on Mike Tyson. If Jake or Logan's in this movie, this changes the movie completely. Yes. If you saw Jake Paul come flying in off the movie. fucking top of something with his yellow pants on. Right.

I would be like I can't wait. As it is, that would be great. Sometimes these, I can't tell because I've watched several of these sci-fi horror movies with a very small cast that feel like it was filmed on one set with a lot of green screen

and they're awesome. But then other times it's like I don't know, why? Why you even bother? Yeah, right. You didn't have a story. This one, the trailer, I didn't get much, I got more from the, from what you said about

the synopsis than what I did from the trailer. I didn't know what was going on in the trailer. Definitely looks like it has some cool visuals, though. And if we're just going on that, it looks really good. But it also looks like it might be a little artsy and confusing with like the close-ups on the face and the rings of light and all, you know, going around. So I'm indifferent as of right now. but also very very sci-fi like more sci-fi than I expected I like I I started I start I put this on because you know we have to watch it and then I kind of ignored it for a second and then I was like oh wait a minute and then I sort of rewound and watched it again I was like that looks pretty cool you know like it's a spaceship in the middle of fucking nowhere with some like really sci-fi horror kind of shit.

shit, I'm down. I like how we get these little glimpses in the way Philip thinks about doing things. It's like, put it on because, you know, we have to. Good stuff. I'm here for this. The visuals look cool.

I mean, I'm hoping we get a Jesse from Breaking Bad versus Eco U-Ways from the raid, fight scene. Oh, wow. Yeah. That would be fun. Better than Jake Paul. I don't know, dude. I'm super stoked about this fight.

I know. So at least we get to see a fight. I'm 100% positive that Jake's going to win. I think he probably is too, to be honest. Because it's a complete circus, that's why. Yeah. I don't want him to. think I really hope that they like really go balls out and Mike Tyson just shows up.

That's my hope is Mike forgets that it's supposed to be a show. Yeah. And the old feelings come back in there. And bites his ear off. Yeah. He's just like, no, I'm not going to let that the young kid kick my head. Fuck that. Yes.

And he goes wild and just knocks that motherfucker out. But I don't know. By the time, I'm defeated. Yeah, I mean, we got to remember they canceled the original date because he had an ulcer. Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't bode well. I don't know. They've shown some physique shots of Mike Tyson recently, though.

That man has put in the work. Oh, for sure. I don't think he's taking it lightly. Like, his six-month transformation is pretty drastic, so. Yeah, he's also twice his age. So we'll see Well, you know Win one for us old guys Mike

Put one of young punks in their place, please I hope he does Do what all of us old guys want to do But no, he probably can't We could do it by curiously Like I would If I was 10 years younger and you weren't as big I would

You better watch out if those circumstances I'd like him to eat his children Oh God Oh he's those days are gone yeah or it can be a weird sex thing since he doesn't actually have any kids but we'll

scoge on past that anyways ash yeah to bring us back lance what did you think of ash well when you when you sent a trailer and it said ash on it I was hoping it was a different particular ash even though nobody said anything

and Bruce Campbell saying no I'm not going to do another one that that's why I was hopeful for But then I watched the trailer And now I know why it's called Ash, Steve Because with those fucking visuals at the end there, you got to be green to watch this one. Well, that won't be a problem for me. Yeah, I'm all in.

It looks super trippy. Kind of like annihilation. Remember that one? The visuals of annihilation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that movie. Reminiscence to that. So I'm all in.

I'm all in. All right. No set release. state, but it is coming out next year. All right. All right. On to listener feedback. This week, we shine the podcast spotlight on Loggett, another movie podcast.

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left it with the first two movies and didn't do a sequel I wouldn't I I would have been upset But you had to finish it and kind of ruin the series by doing this crappy film That's harsh, that's harsh Yeah, I don't think you've ruined the series I mean true But A little bit of a point

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Which proper runt of the pack, but watchable. Okay. Run of the pack's got to go to six. That's the half. For Elm Street. Which one was that? Fucking Freddy's dead, I think. Yeah, Freddy's dead.

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From the West Craven movie? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I went through and looked at them all. I don't think I put that one live on the story yet. Oh, then no, I haven't seen that one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the guy in the electric chair with the orange jumpsuit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did see that one. That was awesome.

We should definitely put that one live on the store. Yeah, I'll put it up. It looks like a freaking Metallica album, Ride the Lightning. Oh, yeah, right the lightning. It's awesome. It was tricky to get the horror. returns font, you know, with the shocker font and with the same little lightning bolts and all that. Like, it is, it took some doing.

Hey. And, dude, we appreciate it. We appreciate everything you do, Steve. We could, I couldn't even do a stick figure for a T-shirt. I like doing it. And I like Jasper. Jasper's my guy, man. Jasper's the man.

I need to figure out how to get a plushy of Jasper Jenkins. You know what I mean? I need to figure out how. I got to do it. I got to figure it out. My daughter would be in heaven. That art the clown, right? That and art the clown, dude. She's into it. I'm telling you. I know. I know.

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More coming. At some point in time. All right. On to our featured attractions. It's Religious Horror Week again with a brand new heretic, as well as the exercise. of God, which is a movie that I had never heard of. But it came out in 20...

That's where Steve's on the show tonight. There you go. Came out in 2021. We're going to go with that one first. A long time ago, I committed a sin. I was weak. Welcome, Father Peter. It's not every day you get a visit from a saint.

I'm not a saint. You've been helped. our people for 18 years. Father Michael, you made it? If I can make it to hell, I can make it to Mexico. An American priest working in Mexico, the mexercist, is possessed during an exorcism

and ends up committing a terrible act, sort of. 18 years later, the consequences of his sin come back to haunt him. Unleashing, the greatest battle within. Can you guess what is terrible act was? Director...

Director is Alejandro Hidalgo, also known for the house at the end of time, which I also have never seen. Writers, Alejandro Hidalgo with Santiago Fernandez Calvete, who is known for the second death. Before the priest enters the house in the beginning of the movie,

the scene where he is standing in front of the house, looking up at the window, is an homage to the exorcist. No, you don't say. The exact same shot? No. Or an exact shot for shot rip-off. We'll call that an homage.

Same lighting and everything, Steve. Yeah. Hey, look, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That's true. Fair enough. I think they did that a couple of times in this movie. But I can't remember a whole lot of it. Steve, tell me which does.

about it well first i'm thinking about all the shirt designs that i got for the mexercist that's that's something i that was great um so i do like religious horror mostly because like when it hits it hits hard and but most of them don't right like most of them are neither here nor there but you have those ones that hit like the last right you have like the vatican tapes you have this one for me the original exorcist and then you have ones that are not so great like We're looking at you, exorcist believer. Get out of here. So I throw these on because I just, I don't know, there's a vibe that I get from them.

You know, I'm not a religious person, so it doesn't, I don't feel weird watching them. It's just a cool vibe that I get from them. So this one in particular took some, while you say it copies a lot of other things, boy, does it do some shit that none of these other ones do. That's true. Starting with a very sexy exorcism, if I say so myself. And moving into the sexericism. Yeah.

And then you have like the what they do with religious iconography with Jesus on the cross with the Mary, uh, Virgin Mary statues and turning those into scary monsters is. They're nothing scarier than a Jesus or the crown of thorns and a monster face screaming at you running backwards up a wall. Like holy shit. So, uh, and then the finale, the finale, there's a. reasons movies called the exorcism of God and I don't want to get there before we all get there but I did not see that coming and I've never seen that in any movie before or since and that is a hell of a concept. Probably because it doesn't really make a lot of sense. Yeah but it was so fucking cool watching it I don't know like I'm not here for logistics. I don't believe in any of this anyhow so for me

it's all poppy cock so this was just I was just like this is great yes fucking who's got the louder voice. And it had a cool little ending. I thought the little bits at the end were pretty good. I don't know. I had a lot of phone with this one. So I like it. All right.

Brian, what do you think? Steve, since you mentioned this movie, I've been waiting to watch it. I've been saving this movie for a special time. Uh-oh. And the opening of this movie was so fantastic. I was set for a ride that I thought I wasn't going to be ready for. Oh, wow. Man, was I disappointed after the opening scene?

Darn. Downhill from there. I do agree with the images of Jesus and the Virgin Mary. I liked all that stuff. I liked the idea of what was trying to happen at the end of the movie. But I'm not a fan of religious horror because I feel like it's a lot of the same tropes over and over. It wasn't in this, though. See, it was original. All right.

I'll be quite. They're demons or zombies in this one. If we're only talking about the beginning and the end, yes, original. The whole middle, they threw in all the tropes. Yeah. And it does get kind of bogged down the middle. There's a lot of talky-talky when we're not really. Like, you get it.

As soon as he's like, it was 18 years ago. I'm like, oh, it's his daughter. Like, ta-da-da. And like, it takes him 45 minutes to get you there before they find him like, it's his daughter. I'm like, I fucking know. We all know. Even fucking Jeffrey knows. We saw the first movie.

Yes, we got Jeffrey, the original Jeffrey from Fresh Prince. Yeah. In there. Right. Just like, what are we doing? He was a priest in another movie. doing extra shit as a blind priest that I just watched. He's in Hellboy the Crooked Man.

Oh, wow. Nice. Did he carry a little flask around with him like you did in this one? No, but he was a shit-talking priest just like in here too. You know, dropping F-bombes. I didn't understand his character, though. You didn't? What was his motivation?

His soul was damned to hell. How the fuck was he going to have? help with anything. Yeah. He's got to work with, so. You can't have any sins to do the thing. And then he's like, but I'm like definitely going to hell. Like, wait a second.

So you shouldn't be here at all. You should be like the farthest of the way person. Although, to be fair. But these priests are all lying. To be fair. He sold his soul to somebody. Right. He sold the soul of the devil to save somebody else.

So it was still like a, like is his soul going to hell? Like a sacrifice. But it was like an ultimate sacrifice. It was still in general. You would think. I don't, I don't get into that. We're getting into that thing called logistics again. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, you can't think too much about logistics in this movie. I guess, that's for sure. I guess for me, the highs were so high that the lows of the whole middle section of the movie where you get all your story and your exposition. Yeah. The highs were so high, that didn't drag me down. These are two very fucking different. movies, by the way. Which is cool.

Which is cool. It's all religious horror week, right? Yeah, I just that the whole middle piece just took me out of it. Like you said, it took so long for them to even acknowledge that was his daughter. Okay. They started, the

jump scares were just like, come on now. They even threw the spider walk scene in there. Yeah. I don't know You're saying all the things And I'm like yeah, but I like all that What was it?

What was it? What was it? Philip was when they had the Jesus demon And he was I don't exactly remember What was happening to I think it was when he was like

Getting beat up or dying or something Uh huh I can't remember exactly what was happening to him But it was The Most God awful special effects I've ever seen and it was fantastic.

Very CGI heavy, right? Very CGI-I. So bad it's good, maybe. The wall crawling was... A completely different size than the rest of the people on the screen. It didn't make any sense. They did that in it and everyone clapped. The movie was just uneven because there were scenes where I thought the acting was really good.

And then there were scenes like when he agrees to sell a soul at the end, the demons just kind of lay on the ground. Yeah. And it's over. Wow. They don't collapse. They just gently lay on the ground. Well, it's over. Yeah.

You know, remember idle hands? It's like, you know, that's it. No, there's no brach. Right. You know, it's over. It's kind of weak, but, you know, it's over. But that came after, like, a really cool scene. And, like, the practical effects on the makeup on those demon people was awesome.

Oh, yeah. Like the Virgin Mary, I was. like that she still kind of looked like a statue come to life. I thought stuff like there was there was taking them kids out. I was like oh shit with the two different colored eyes. Oh I I like that scene in the children's hospital whenever when all the kids started flatlining and they're just shaking foaming at the mouth. I was like okay we're doing something and then right we would go back to well and like they didn't want there's the the priest didn't want even that to happen they were like please get everyone out and they were like no

well fuck they wanted it to like none of this to happen it would have been a very quiet finale they were putting people to sleep right but because of those federalees you know those pesky federale we got to have this high body count

with fucking demons flying out from everywhere like holy shit everyone's possessed in this motherfucker I don't know I thought the concept was really cool maybe the execution I don't know maybe it's just my blinders I hear everything you're saying

It's just that that opening The opening was That grabbed you man The sexorcism The way she played that I believe it was actually happening I saw them nipples popping through I was like

Yeah I was like But then you get into that question And I was like I probably fucking You know When he When he When he gives in, I was kind of like, oh, okay.

I'm not mad at you, bro. Yeah. I get it. It's a very tense moment in there, you know, the motions are high. I mean, you know, she's a demon. That wasn't the only thing that was, you know. That beginning was just so much. He's like, this is Holy Water.

She's like, eh. Hey, yeah. Whoa. Whoa. He put out to kick. camera she's like she said oh you like to watch it's like oh my god well you got some holy water in there i guess it's okay right that was wild wild yeah it just that that opening just set me up for something that i i thought was going to continue through the rest of the movie and then you just

talk me to death throughout it does have it's a big lull before you get to anything like before you get to that first jesus like creeping on on dude while he's sleeping because that's That's like the first scary thing that happens. And there's about 20 minutes between that opening and that where it's just, I'm like, what the fuck is going on? This thing happened and now he's here with a beard and he's like giving rice to people. What's going on? What's the ramifications for what just happened?

And then he's like, that's this crazy thing happened 18 years ago. And I remember on the first time I watched it, I was like, okay, so your kid's coming into this somehow. And it's 18, so you're going to be gross. you know i don't know i mean yeah there were there were certain parts in here that were like super slow and the acting was like not not necessarily the best of course right you know there were there were some decent scenes but there were there were some parts in there steve where i was thinking dude what the fuck movie did you watch this you really enjoyed this i did i watched it again today and liked it okay that being said that being said i'm going to compare this one a little bit to the

Maybe we saw earlier this year. Terot, Territ. How do you pronounce it? Terro. I want to hear this, how these two movies connect. I'll say they'll say they... Yeah, that's the one. That's the one.

I'll say they connect in that this was not like a super high quality, high budget movie, right? Like, you know, you guys were talking about the CGI not always, you know, looking completely realistic. And that was the same thing with Terra, right? But, but fucking super creepy. Like some incredibly creepy makeup, incredibly creepy CGI effects, lots of jump scares that were like, not necessarily well earned. But, okay, this reminded me of a hammer or a movie. Like, I'm an old dude. So back in the old days, boys and girls, they had a production company called Hammer Films out of the UK.

And they would have like, you know, female vampires that were lesbian, that their bodices were ripping open and they were coming after you down the hallway. So this was like a clear throwback to that. And that was a lot of fun. Oh, no. So I love that. Don't touch me. Oh, okay. Yes, there were some silly stuff like in the beginning.

When he was on top of her, I knew this is it. He's going to town. This is happening. And that was kind of like bizarre. He put her, he put his hand on her stomach to feel she was breathing. And what she did with that hand? I was like, oh. Yeah, and there was no hesitation to even move the hand or anything.

And it was weird because she still had like her gross demon hand. You know, I was like, he was ready to go. Listen, at base level, guys are just stupid. All right. That's how that works. I'll take that. I'll take that. Very easily manipulated.

I'll take that explanation. Okay, I'm going to say yes. There were a lot of boring scenes in between and stuff like this. But this was kind of like a fun little, almost kind of like so bad it's good movie that, you know, the effects were like, okay, so there was the one scene where they had what the three or four female demons all coming after him. And then I'm like, are they really going to do this? Are they going to say like, we're trying to cast God out of you? And I've never seen that before. And with all the fucking candles, you had the atmosphere.

They were down in a dungeon. You had the candles. He was all chained up. I was like, okay, this is truly original. The fire command you. I was like, oh my God. Instead of the blood of Christ. I loved when it wasn't working right away, all the demons' faces.

Like, are we doing something wrong? They were so disappointed. They were so strong. I thought that was just a really. crazy concept. Like, yeah, you would think, like, okay, so priests, they can go and they can cast out the devil out of somebody's been possessed or whatever. I'm like, so it stands to reason for just taking this on the face value that like, dingin and yeah, could cast God out of somebody that's like really religious. Like, I mean, it adds up on paper. It's a great concept. It's a great concept.

But on paper still doesn't make sense. Yeah, because... On paper, I mean, to me, none of this makes sense. So that's why I'm not religious. He shouldn't have had that power because he sinned. Well, yeah. But his sins were absolved. His sins were absolved.

He had already confessed, and he said that his sins would have been absolved if he were able to do his absolution or whatever, do his penance. And he said he could never do his penance. But he did his penance before he went in there. And that's why he went in there and started wrecking ass and taking demons out left and right. because Jeffrey died Jeffrey died he was like I have to go film my confession or whatever the fuck he did

Oh that's right And then that's when he got his superpower And he started whooping out You know Once you post your apology to Facebook Then you get your superpower It's like dead stream Listen I'm not the one that makes the religions of the church

That's just what they are It's as far as I know That rule sounds just about as real as most of the other ones So I was like, you know, I thought it was awesome. He's like trying to fight back. He's like, the power of price. They're just like being louder and they're just like all yelling. At one point, they're just all like, ah!

What about, hey guys, so what about the scene where I had the video cassette and he was about to confess and hand it to him? And then he said, uh, the boss said, uh, you're up for a promotion. that video cassette went okay never mind the video cassette well yeah but then you get you find out that his boss

is one fucking devil people too so it's like all the religious cats are all the devil always is there was just a Houston pastor that uh and I actually am a religious person but uh like there was a Houston pastor that just got like arrested

or assaulting minor or some shit. No, no, no, no. He just Bogart's all the money and doesn't help him. Yeah, he just, he just, he just hordes it all. That guy's a salesman. That one weird guy who's like, you see the videos on Facebook, he's like, he made Tyler Perry, made that plane so cheap I had to buy. He's got that weird, crazy face.

It's like, uh, religion. Ah, religion. And in saying that, I think that, so I love religious horror. Yes, you do. But I also like it when they take it seriously. This one is silly. Oh, this was not taking seriously at all. And I'm right.

I'm very aware of that. And it knew what it was. And they played up to that. And it actually wasn't terrible. I mean, it's definitely a B movie. But like, it wasn't terrible. I like it Like personally

When they take it a little more seriously and it makes it really scary, right? But this one knew what it was and they went way the fuck off the reservation Which was fantastic You know, I mean if you're gonna do it sure let's go for it So many try to take it so seriously and they and they fall short right and it's it's and it's it comes off and that's the worst right? That's the car that's the car that's the car that's the car that's the car Cardinal Sin. And this might be a B movie, but you have these AAA movies like Exorcist Believer that are coming out. This is way fucking better than that.

Also true. Also true. And I thought that the, um, the zombie-like demons that were chasing everybody the whole time. Yes. Even though it was kind of genre bending. Uh, I think I, I kind of liked it. It was interesting. Right.

It was slow. But cool. Yeah. Yeah, they did a lot of, they did a lot of different things. They sort of mixed a bunch of stuff together in this movie. I don't remember a ton of it, to be honest with you, even though I just watched it a couple of days ago, so it wasn't awesome.

But it wasn't terrible. I like the zombie army because Jeffrey says he's like, oh, that demon's here, like, fuck, he always comes with extra people. Like, he's always got extra. That's why he said, he's, Jeffrey said, you got to get everybody out of here, because it'll spread and he'll have a whole bunch of these motherfuckers and then nobody listened to jeffrey me like what happened like always i do my favorite part that was the demon jesus and the the the the the cgii stuff that was happening in that process and i was like what in the who the who who who gave this the okay to put us for it's so bonkers it's so terrible it's bonkers but i've seen some of them jesus statues before and been like that creepy looking.

They're creepy. Not all of them, but some of them out there are done with not the best artistry. Buddy Christ. Buddy Christ. Yeah, buddy Christ. There you go. Well, he's not creepy. He's friendly.

He's happy. Christ that's being tortured and killed is a little creepy. With a spear in his side and fucking crown of thorns. Yeah. All right. Scores. Steve, what do you think? All right.

Don't crucify me. for this. This is all personal opinion. It's all personal opinion. I'm giving this a nine. A nine on ten. I love this movie. That doesn't

make any sense at all. I love this movie. I love it. I love this movie. I love this movie. I love this movie. Jesus Christ. Nine? I have a lot of something. I watched it three times. Once on a blind whim.

That's all? Once for the show for geeks and then now this one. And all three times, I've had a good time watching it. Despite the bad parts. It just, it scratches that itch for me. It's like a subgenre that I like and it's good. I may have to give it this one another watch. A nine?

That's insane. All right. Brian, what do you think? Let's see. For the beginning and the end alone, I think you should watch it. If you're a fan of religious horror, I think you should watch it.

Just don't expect anything new or interesting throughout the entire middle portion. Fair enough. There was some interesting ideas in there. So I think I'm going to give it a six. Okay. Okay. That's a more reasonable score.

I think my score is reasonable. I mean, Ness tosses out ten. This movie's not a nine, dude. Halloween King, it is to me. It is not to you. On planet Steve, where awesome t-shirts are designed, it's a fucking nine, maybe. There you go. There you go.

Boom. Boom. Lance, what do you think? I'm with Brian on this one. Sorry, Steve. But I think six is very fair because six means, you know, I liked it more than I didn't like it. And despite the super boring, like explaining, explaining, explaining, and then explaining why it's explaining and then this. But then you get a little moment like where he hides the video cassette.

Like you just laugh your ass off when you see that. You get a little moment where you've got all these fucking candles in a dungeon and these three demon ladies, literally trying to exercise God out of a priest. And then you get these little moments where like, you know, you're dealing with the rape of Satan. They could have called it that, I guess, right? So, and then those eyes, the weird eyes effect. Final scene where the girl turns around like, and it's like, ah, there's one on the other side.

Be careful, father, you know. But it is kind of funny. I like that shit. I was like, ooh, it's like a superpower fight. No, it's like superheroes that are going to fight. Oh, it was great. It was like so fucking, it was so fucking Marvel Comics. Yes.

But also, if you're thinking. I think about it at the end. No, the other thing I loved about the end is that it was... I can get on board with this. It was kind of showing the nastiness of the Catholic religion, but without saying it. Does that make sense? Like, in other words, the corruption and the way that, you know, one of the literal demons that's literally lost his soul is like at the top of the food chain at the Vatican now. So anyway, it had a lot to say.

In that respect, I just don't think it executed. So six out of ten, I liked it more than I didn't like it. So there. I'm going to go, I think six is a pretty fair score because I did enjoy it. Six, six. But you don't remember it. Oh, I know, right? You don't remember it.

I don't remember it. I don't remember it, but it's not good. Well, it was fun. It was just, it was kind of silly. I, like, part of the reason that I, I like religious horror is when it's like when they take it really seriously and it's actually like legitimately scary. Like I like movies to scare me. This one didn't scare me.

This was kind of just silly. It was like a zombie movie, but demons instead. It's just the fun factor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a lot of fun though. I did have fun with this movie. I can't remember all the stuff that happened and I'm really excited about it. talking about this next movie more than I am this one.

But it was, it was all right, but not bad. It's not like great. You know, it's not cinema. It's not art. It's just fun. It's just like silly, good, like, it is for sure. Easy, I don't know, it goes down. A fun horror movie, yeah.

And like that, the first time I watched it, it came in a time where I was watching a ton Last Exorcism, Emily Rose, all these... Yeah. There's just so many. And this one just, I was like, it's opened up and it was something new. And then, you know, in the middle, there's something new. And then at the end, there's something new. And I'm like, you know.

At least it was something different. So that's true. Because there's a lot of Exorcism movies out there that are garbage. Were there any Exorcism movies before The Exorcist? Or did that start a whole new genre? There had to have been like the old black and white movies that had, an exorcism, right? Wouldn't you think?

I don't know. You got to make that a research project. I don't know. David Byrd. It was the first exorcism. Because like the exorcist is one of my favorite movies of all time. Yes. Like, this one is not.

But it was fun. Well, I would definitely put this in one of my, of this genre, one of my favorite. All right. Understandable. I get it. I get it. The exorcist. 1773 was the first

Exorcism movie. I'm shocked Philip gave it a six. I thought Philip had a four coming for sure. No, I had a good time with it. Plus there was, you know, some pretty good nips.

And she finally opened her top at the end too, right? Okay. Moving right along. All right. On to our new movie, Heritage. Hi, good afternoon, ma'am.

Are you interested in learning about our Savior Jesus Christ? Hi. Good afternoon. My name is Sister Barnes and... Oh my gosh. Are he interested in learning more about the Church of Jesus Christ? Come on it. We can't come inside unless another woman is present.

My wife is home. Does that come? Great. You like pie? Yeah. My wife has pie in the oven. I could tell that you are a very spiritually curious person. I think it is good.

to be religious, to find your faith in a doctrine you actually believe. Well, our work here is done. I will go and check on the park. Two young religious women, Mormon women, is what it really should say, because this is really based on that, are drawn into a game of cat and mouse in the house of a strange man. Directors and writers are Scott Beck and Brian Woods, also known for a quiet place. Day 1 and Hunt. Underrated movie. You see that one? Steve Haunt.

That's a good one. Where they do the haunted house and the guy, the characters, they all had the mask on, the killers. I don't know if I've seen that. Like there was a clown mask and a demon mask. Brian, we love that one, remember? Yeah, but you described like a whole bunch of other movies. Yeah, I know. I'm not sure.

Which kind of generic description. That's kind of a generic concept, but they get stuck in this haunted house and there's clowns trying to kill them. and shit. It's pretty good. Sophie Thatcher and Chloe East were both raised Mormon, so we're able to give valuable insight into

religion when shooting the movie. I didn't know that. I didn't either. They are both no longer Mormons. The end credits feature the statement, no generative AI was used in the making of film i don't know what that means is that trivia it is it's kind of trivial but

it's nice to hear it's not i mean that's yeah that is nice that's refreshing that's refreshing right all right fair enough seems random but oh they're looking good look at that don't have one of those uh-oh does lance have like a like 600 of them in his house That's behind the camera you don't see the boxes. Steve, what did you think about this one? It's next to his fucking microphone cord. Heritage. I really like this one too.

Hugh Grant pontificates and just has these long tirades. And I love all that shit. All the connections. He's making like these musical connections. I'm like, fucking radio head song is like that song yeah and then he's doing the the religion thing and then you know sophie thatcher comes in

and has her back and forth he posits a lot of good questions it it's it's a slower movie than I thought and from the trailer I got like I thought we were going to be dealing with a very large labyrinthian kind of intricate thing and while it is a

large space we're dealing with it's not quite what I thought it was um I liked it but I didn't love it and I wanted to love it but I did like it so without getting into spoilers yeah got to be careful spoilers is going to be interesting in this one so um good setting I think everyone acted really well I like the musical choices throughout they played different versions of the same songs throughout um it's good it was good all right Brian what do you think

again not my genre religious horror but I did like it, didn't love it. I thought Hugh Grant was outstanding in this. He was both inviting. You felt like someone that you could go into their house and have a piece of pie with, but then at the same time,

he felt like somebody you shouldn't never go into their house alone or at all. Charming and creepy at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. I thought Sophie Thatcher and what was her name? Chloe East I thought they were good also Sophie Thatcher was the more

forward speaking person She was the one with the dark hair? Yeah Yeah I like Chloe East was the more timid standoffish Of the two and I thought they kind of balanced each other out in that aspect I think the trailer sells you on a movie

Like you said Steve of this labyrinth in the house almost like traps and stuff yeah different puzzles to solve or moral quandaries to get out of you know yeah you get a movie that's not quite that but it does have some good ideas in there

especially with the whole idea of the what was it the one true religion what that turned out to be I thought it was interesting at the end and I just thought it was a well-acted movie well-directed, slow-paced, but little...

That's a spoiler. I can't get into that. I know, it's tricky. It's tricky. I did enjoy it more than I didn't. I'll just say that. And I looked it up, and I don't know what, what's her name, Rebecca East? What's her, the other actress? The Mousy one? Chloe East. She's, from what I could tell, was she's had some bit parts and stuff, but was mainly a Disney. channel actress and then you have

Sophie Thatcher who I know more from Yellow Jackets and she was also on Boogie Man. Absolutely. Yeah. Right. She played the younger What's her name? Juliette Lewis. There you go. Oh, that makes sense.

Yeah. That makes that. That's good casting. It is good casting, isn't it? Lance, what do you think? I said it about hereditary with Tony Collette that when we reviewed it, I said, if she's not nominated for an Oscar, something's

fucked up with the system. I'm going to say it again for Hugh Grant. If he is not nominated for an Oscar for this movie, fuck the system. Fuck you Oscars. I'll never watch you again. He didn't have this range. This was an amazing performance. He won't be for sure. He'll watch the Oscars every year.

Yeah, I know. That's true. That's true. That's true. That guy made talking about Monopoly, and I didn't know there was a original about called landlords I did know that

he's talking about like Steve brought up the stuff with Radiohead and I'm just kind of like this is interesting very very rabbit hole shit right very rabbit hole

when I was watching that the first thing I thought of I was like Phil's gonna love this shit all his conspiracy unravel all the connections I'm like this is the

whole this of what he does and real quick not to step on your part Lance but the whole back and forth about religion I thought was cool because I felt like

they were saying stuff that other movies probably wouldn't have said okay to create that back and forth conversation some real questions like like example or do you need to wait or spoilers just wait

well the whole about in general having multiple wives and how do you feel about that? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, the hypocrisy. Oh, for sure. Basically, he was asking a lot of questions that made them uncomfortable and Sophie Fatsch's character was the one kind of

stepping up and coming back with what she believed. And like I said, the balance between her and Chloe East kind of playing, because you could sell Chloe East was kind of sinking into her, sinking into the couch every time he asked a question

and kind of wanted to get out of conversation. Sophie Thatcher was just kind of coming back at him. I like that whole dynamic in the movie. Yes, agreed. No, the only thing, no, I'm going to say almost nothing because I don't want to spoil anything because I think everybody should see this movie. But I'll just say that it started off with, I love that the trailer didn't give too much away. I love that I went into this movie basically blind. I love that I didn't read. I never read reviews before. we see the movie, the new movie for the show. I never read reviews. And I'm so glad I didn't because I'm glad I went in blinded to this because it starts as such a small, simple, one-room, one-act play concept. And it expands. It's like layers of an onion. And it's expanding more. And it's expanding more. And it's expanding more. And then all of a sudden, it's back to just a simple, simple, huh, well, that makes perfect sense.

And I don't want to say why, but it's like, is something supernatural going on or isn't there? But at the end, it's like perfectly wrapped up in a bow. But then at the very end, they give you that beautiful little question, maybe, what if? And that's all I'll say. Yeah, man, I, this is not the movie that I expected that it was going to be. and um you know i like i say that maybe i'm religious i don't know you know so it's it's i i like the

questions brought up in this movie and uh and that's kind of what it is it's it's a whole lot of movie about questioning of religion and uh i may have a little different take on it than you guys do once we get into spoilers uh but i'll blow your minds with that in a minute But I kind of like what they did. I like all the little allegories and all the little subtle nuances. I thought Hugh Grant did an amazing job in this movie. He was so awesome. The other girls were great too, but this was a Hugh Grant movie for sure.

Like he ran the show in this thing. and he killed it in every scene and every line that he did and this one this is a movie that had me thinking about it after it was done you know like I wanted to look up reviews

I wanted to see what people thought about it and things like that it was it was a lot of fun I think I don't know man I like this stuff it was a good movie all right let's go scores and get to spoilers

Brian what do you think Steve, my bad. Okay, so when I review movies, I put them in different categories, right? So the Exorcism of God was over in this category of these shitty movies, right? It got a nine for shitty movies. It doesn't stand up against good, real movies. This is like more of a real movie. This gets an eight.

I think it was really, really good. Nice. But I don't think that it delivered everything that I, that I guess it's just personal preference that I thought I was going to get from the trailer. I wanted to see a little bit more of the weirdness of that house. Like they make a big deal out of the weirdness of the house. You're only in, you're not in a lot of the house. Yeah, it's not what I'm trying to get into spoilers. And it's not a movie for everybody, I think.

But I did like a lot of all the talkie-talkie. So it gets a neat for me. almost Quentin Tarantino asked like a lot of just dialogue stuff. Less shots of their feet. But yes.

Brian, what do you think? I'm almost there with Steve. I'm right now. I'm at a seven. I feel like this is a movie that deserves a rewatch. Because I think out of rewatches you get more out of it, I thought the acting was really good.

especially Hugh Grant. But again, I was a little let down because the trailer sold me on a movie that I didn't quite get. Yeah. Understandable. Understandable.

I think if I would have got that aspect. Kind of like low lives, right, Brian? No, low life. I like that. That's its own thing. I like that in low lives. I thought one thing, and they completely pulled the rug out

from underneath me and made it this whole other movie. this movie, if I would have got a little bit of what I thought the movie is going to be with what the movie is, I think this movie probably would have been an eight or nine for me. Okay. Okay. Lance, what do you think? What was your score again, Brian?

What I forgot? He said seven. He said seven. Seven? Okay, so we got an eight and a seven. All right. Steve, this is, you picked a strange night to be on dude. this is something

you guys don't hear from me very often. This isn't quite mother or clockwork orange guys, but this is a solid, solid, solid 9.5. This is like one of my favorite films of all time right now. Now look, I'm only a week away from it.

I might change my mind a little bit later. The only thing that drew it back for me a little bit is because you kind of had to suspend disbelief with a couple of plot holes later on, like particularly in the third act. We're getting a little bit manic. And if they'd found a way to get around that, I would have given this a 10 all day long. But I fucking love this movie.

9.5. So much deep shit in this movie. But then it's back to just the basic, which I can't say. I'm going to go 8 as well, I think. I really enjoyed this one. It had some really good question. Again, it's not for everybody. but like if, I don't know, man, it asks, it asks some really good questions and it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a think piece a little bit. And, uh, hey, A24 with Hugh Grant, dude. What more do you want?

Except him as an oopalupa maybe, right? Yeah. I ain't seen that yet. He didn't great in that one, even though it was a shitty movie, but yeah, I kind of, yeah, I know. But dude, I'm loving Hugh Grant. everything and he's doing later in life here. Yeah, he's having a renaissance for sure. The Duns and Dragons movie, he was a great in it too. Yeah, he was amazing. He was amazing.

Great villain, great villain. All right. Spoiler talk. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. well i think you should kick us off bill because you were going to blow our minds all right i can't wait i can't fucking wait well okay i but i'm blowing your mind based off of assumptions here because i assume i assume that lance is going to say that this was a uh uh a case for atheism kind of a movie correct it was but then at the very very end it wasn't because it you saw those two miracles. You saw the dead literally rise, right? Or did you? Right? Which we've all had an experience like that where you swear to God that there had to have been something there and maybe there was, maybe there wasn't, maybe you miss saw it, maybe you miss remember it. Because as Hugh Grant said,

we're really only our last memory of something. And then that memory changes fucking over and over and over again. And then the butterfly landed or did the butterfly land. Can I love the way at the final shot they showed the butterfly but then they showed her finger with no butterfly was that just uh was that just dm t flashing off in her brain it's what happens when you die dude no i don't think it's a case for atheism at all because i think it totally leaves the door open now if it ended up being just that he was a maniac and just that control was the ultimate religion that was fine for me that wrapped everything in a neat little box and I would have been totally happy with that ending. I would have said, okay, I get it, I get it. But then the fact, that's what got it from like a nine to a nine point five for me

is that he did leave the door open for a little questioning there at the end. Or that I say he, I mean, they, these two directors. So, you know, not necessarily a case for atheism, Philip. I, I, I, when he was talking. So now he can't blow your mind. When he was, no, no, So, okay, so I think when he was talking about his one true religion was control, right? Well, she said it, and then he agreed with it. He said, yes, you're correct. So maybe if she'd said something different, he would have agreed with that. You never know. The dude was fucking off his rocker. However, control sort of works, and he had all this satanic shit down in his last layer of Dante's Inferno that she finally found, right? You have that allegory in there a lot. And there's all this satanic shit.

And the whole satanic principle is do as thou wilt. He's his own God. Correct. Yes. Yes. So you get very luciferian about it and it brings God back into the equation. You can't have the ultimate evil without having the ultimate good, right? Absolutely.

And I, I, I like, I like. the questions. I welcome them. I like the whole scene where he was talking about the monopoly stuff and all of the different religions. Everything's a variation of something that was pre-established. Exactly. Okay. But that was on my manipulation too. He was just mind-fucking him the whole time. Well, right. But he came up with random bullshit that may or may not really be that connected, but he made it connect. Because you can make coincidences connect if you really want to do. points was that you can make anybody believe anything just by telling them that. He's like, I told you that my wife was baking a blueberry pie and you believe me. And I put that candle on

there with the label out to let you know that that that's not the truth, but you believed it because I told you it. And like, who am I? But you just believe shit. Just challenging their whole belief system. I like it. See that. The only thing this movie does for me is go, that's our whole world. Turn on the fucking. You're talking TV? Yes. That's it. All the information you get is what somebody else gives you and their version of that information

that you're getting. And now you're forming your own opinion and then passing that off to somebody else. And now their version of an event is something that you formed an opinion off of somebody else's opinion. Like it's not so far down by the time you hear something. It's so far away from the actual fucking thing that happened. Like the telephone game, right? Okay.

So here's where I differ from his conclusion. in that situation because he was talking about how all these all these religions are so very similar to each other it seems like if they were also very similar to each other that there would be a story behind that maybe there's something to it right maybe that's what he was that's what i don't know manipulating them into believing right well no but i mean he was he was he was saying things that are real like all of these religions are very similar every dude i did so much fucking fact checking after this movie. I looked fucking everything up that they talked about.

The movie or the music lawsuit, I looked up all the different gods. I looked up all the different religions. Is there really this story in this one? When she says, oh, but that's the virgin birth isn't in the Muslim religion. I looked that up and it's not in there. Did you find out if Wendy's

is the best fast food chain? I absolutely found out that we don't talk about Taco Bell. I definitely I definitely. I definitely had to... I'm just going to put that fire out right now. Put that to bed. It is not.

It's pretty damn good, though. But no, I definitely looked up the little birth control device, and that's 100% real. Oh, yeah, and your arm up here. Or right here, wherever. Yeah. But, yeah, no, I... Get that thing out of there, though. And so, yeah, I think if there's all these similarities and all these religions, and

and there is, that, you know, maybe there would be something to it as opposed to they're all completely made up in bullshit. Yeah, that's what I always try to think is that I want to believe so badly that I think, well, the reason that all these religions have so many similarities is because they do stem from a great religion. And I think he was praying on that, like them wanting to believe so badly. And most people that come to the Mormon church, from my understanding, like, started in a, they grew up in a different religion.

but they got converted over because they're so aggressive. Well, like he said, they're salespeople, right? Door to door to door salespeople. They're so fucking aggressive pushing their version of this religion. Even their boss who's out looking for his missing people, like takes a minute to be like, hey, well, I'm here. You get one of these books. Like he's still being still pushing the shit.

That was a great scene. Is that who that was? Because he's like, I'd be remissed. Oh, my God. I didn't realize. I was like, he looked so familiar. And you just said, oh, son of a bitch, that was that.

See, this, this, this reminded me of, this movie reminded me of barbarian in a couple ways. Not just like the underground tunnel scenes, but like, um, the way they would throw humor in there. And it worked. Every time humor got thrown in there, I thought it worked perfectly.

So, yeah, that scene, I just thought it was fucking hilarious when he's like, you think he's going to come back and challenge him. And you're going to have the, the guy coming to, you know, help save him. or he's going to hear him or whatever. And then he's like, have you, did you know about the word of Jesus Christ?

Yeah. Holy shit. I like the two when I kind of saw that coming. Did you? I liked it when she like laid everything out for you, Grant. Like, no, this is what happened. Like when we came in, you went out and you frigging took our bikes. And when you came back in, your hair was wet.

And this and this, I was like, damn. She's been, is she like super smart and she's been like playing a full of time? He noticed everything. He noticed her. issue because I was like, when did this chick become a super genius? I know it was a stretch. That was a stretch. Suddenly she's paying attention to every little detail because she wasn't like that earlier.

Did a good amount of time go by because they're out riding bikes door and the next thing you know, it's a winter storm outside. Snowing. Yeah. I think that's weird. I think that started as a rainstorm and turned into a snowstorm and it was the next morning when she escaped. Oh, so Alaska. Yeah.

You know how it is. Right, Brian? Help at home. Anybody knows. Brian, you used to be the only one not questioning the weather. All right. Y'all got anything else to say?

Brian? No. I think you guys covered most of what I was going to bring out. Would you guys all say, this movie would like deserve a rewatch like is it when do you think you might see new stuff yeah i think you will pick up on little things here and there everywhere after you get the whole story of how everything is and like i don't think that the girl coming back at the end for her last hurrah was a miracle we've seen that in a every single fucking movie ever made the person comes back for one last

move to like do the thing but in this one you know i have you she had her last little bit of strength to and that was it yeah she i didn't like the she wasn't even dad i was like you didn't like you did i don't know i sometimes i sometimes i like ambiguous ambiguity but like i want some finality to this like yeah i'm not sure i loved the ending but it also kind of left me questioning sort of like the rest of the movie like they which I like that. I understood the reasoning. With the board games and shit was fucking brilliant.

I loved it. Yes. Indeed. Indeed. And the music, it was just rabbit hole after rabbit hole. Yeah. And then I loved it. It was like,

that Jar Jar Binks was going to be the head. Yeah. Because that's what it is, dude. I've not known that for a long fucking time. Yeah. That very first Star Wars and New Hope. Luke is Jesus. You know?

it is what it is yeah when he said Star Wars I was like yeah in a thousand years that rabbit hole there's gonna be some people are going to be like actually worshiping the force yeah sure man it's gonna be a real

religion I've pled religions to the force like what the fuck it's gonna happen with their hand over their heart or no our at that time it's gonna be our hand over our AI screen or our insert, right?

Our AI insert, Philip. We're going to be the aliens, dude. We're going to become our own gods. We're just going to be in bed all day. There's going to be any reason to get up. Oh, man, I love this fucking movie. Y'all ready to sign out? Yeah.

All right. Steve, where can everybody find the geeks? Like, they don't know. But YouTube, look up the geeks, geeks with a Z. Facebook are on there. The geeks. that's pretty much it you can get us

wherever you get your podcasts but mostly it's YouTube stuff we're a little's been fast and lose the release schedule man I don't know what he's doing he'll release like four audio shows

in one fucking day and then nothing for eight weeks I know it's the weirdest thing I'm like but like he does the releases and like you guys like we don't get paid for this shit so we have a little bit of Patreon

people that like give us a little bit of money but for us, we just, like, do personal shit with them. You know, it's like, we'll just review a movie with them. You know, that's how we got a little finally watched The Eternals. A little Marvel fan never wanted to watch that one because he didn't want to blemish his record. But we finally made him sit down and fucking supper, dude out like the rest of us had to. Garbage fucking.

So, I still enfreshed it. It's, it's not that bad. It is. You say, is it really bad? I'll say it's not that bad. But I will say this. I will say this. You were talking about the VHS collection and all that,

but you guys do a lot of deep dive into comics stuff, which is fucking awesome. A lot of collectible stuff, which you don't hear that on every podcast. So some unique things that the geeks brings, but you got to remember, it's Geeks with a Z. Yes.

Because that fucked me up. Geeks with a Z. Back in the League of Geeks days, I kept trying to fucking look it up. And there was another podcast called The League of Geeks with an ass, and it had like four episodes and, Out. I don't think that's it.

No longevity with those guys. Yeah, Geeks with a Z and what was the first? What were you talking about before that? I forget. Talking about the podcast, man. You were talking about a specific show. Oh, the YouTube. I forget.

Anyways. I had a brain fart. It was there and it was gone. It was there and I was gone. All right. Yeah, anywhere you get your podcast so you can find us. All right. And yeah, but mainly YouTube, right?

You guys do a lot of interactive stuff. Yeah. And that's always Saturday nights still? Saturday nights at 11, Wednesday, or 11 East Coast, 8, West Coast. And then Wednesdays are 6 West Coast, 9 East Coast. And that's the Star Wars shit. And then we're actually going to start doing a couple new things this year. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns.

We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. Wow. Reaches at the Horviterums at gmail.com. Next week, Steve, you're coming back. Is that right? Can you hear us? Uh-oh. Philip, can you do the outro?

I think he can. Steve, you want to finish up? Yeah, we're really quick. So the couple of new things that we're doing is the fight, the Aaron Paul or Logan Paul and. Oh, fantastic. And what's his name? Mike Tyson.

We're going to be on Stream Yard, live streaming while that's on, so that we can have some interaction with the audience, that. And then also, whenever our football teams are playing against each other. So when the Bears and Niners play, me and a little beyond streaming out as well, commentating on the game and talking shit to each other. So that'll be good fun.

Nice. So be on the lookout for those. All right. And what was he saying? Next week? Are you joining us again next week? I guess. Yeah.

This was a shocker this week. He has to join us next week. Okay. Yeah, because we're doing another one of these fucking chubes. Children of the corn shows. Yeah, we're going to be into the shitty movie ratings. Children of the corn, Disciples of the Crow, and Children of the Corn Runaway, which are movies that I didn't know existed.

So, until the horror returns again, Brian. Good night.