The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #448: Silent Night, Deadly Night Part 2 (1987) & Silent Night, Deadly Night 3: Better Watch Out! (1989)
Episode Date: December 27, 2024We continue the Christmas spirit with 2 classics. Cool of the week includes Tulsa King, What We Do in the Shadows, and Christmas Vacation. Trailer is Death of a Unicorn. The podcast spotlight shines o...n Horrors Yet Unseen. And we get feedback from Steven Lowblad, Paul Ragsdale, Bede Jermyn, Nabeel Yasin Amin, Tracey Harrison, Marky Best, David Barta, Juha Salonen, Jason Wellsengarry, Shelby Edmunds, Deva Rodgers, Adam Lewis, Billy Snickers, Jimmy Crosbee, and Steve Carleton. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz
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Welcome back, everybody, to The Horror Returns.
Christmas edition, courtesy of our scheduling guru, Brian.
Yeah.
You got a couple of Christmas gems for you to unwrap this week.
So I'm last with me as always, my co-hosts, Philip and Brian.
What's going on, guys?
Nothing much tired of shit, ready for the holidays to be over.
Oh, my God, dude.
I'm ready to be in the middle of it, so I'll have to go to work, man.
There is that.
There is that.
Are you just off one day, Phil, or what?
Yeah.
And then like in the next couple of weekends, I'll be driving all over the state.
Okay.
Got some like remote jobs and stuff like that?
No, like visiting family and junk.
We got a.
Oh, boy.
The Cowboys game to go to.
Yeah.
After New Year's.
Is that the one on Netflix tomorrow?
No, that's a Texans.
Texans.
I mean, Texans and Ravens is on Netflix, I think.
Yeah.
And then the Chiefs game is on Netflix also, I think, Brian.
Oh, then maybe I was looking at the wrong thing.
Maybe.
But I know Texans and Ravens are playing on Christmas.
Yeah.
Maybe they're on Amazon.
Netflix has a two for tomorrow.
Oh, okay.
So, first time ever.
I guess Netflix, hopefully it won't be as shitty as the picture during that fight where it kept freezing.
I know.
The next test.
Yeah.
Well, mine was clear for the fights up until.
up until Tyson walked out.
That's the only time it lagged on me.
Oh, mine was fucking all up from like the first fight.
And we've got...
Mine was too.
Pretty decent internet-ish.
I mean, I pay for it at least.
Yeah, I'm trying a new internet service today.
I signed up with AT&T.
They've got this new thing called Air,
which so far it seems to be a little bit faster than
what I had. They can't do
fiber optic here because the
quality of the sand
that all the houses are built on, so they can't
I guess tunnel, we're too close
to the beach.
It sounds like some bullshit.
It kind of does, doesn't it?
Yeah, we don't have fiber.
At least you get
free max, don't you?
With AT&T.
How come I'm paying $152
a year for it then?
Fuck am I missing out on here.
Never mind.
I didn't know about this
That may be their wireless thing or something
I don't know
We got that too so I could look into that
Oh man
All right guys
No buy humbug here
What's your cool of the week Brian
I don't have a cool of the week
I got a not cool of the week
Oh
Let's have it
I don't know why I'll have two
I'll have two then
Okay I don't know why I watched it
I wasn't interested in watching it.
I haven't even seen all the Venom movies.
Hated Madam Webb.
Oh, no.
Hated Morbius.
So I watched Craven the Hunter.
I had high hopes for that one, man.
I heard it sucks.
Well, any high hopes you had just completely get destroyed within the first 20 minutes.
This movie was bad.
Ouch.
The acting was not good.
some of the people look like
I don't know maybe I was just I've been tired for the past week
maybe I was just sleepy or something but some of the faces look like they were
AI generated it looks so CG
like there was a scene where
Cravens played by Aaron Taylor Johnson
sure and he's talking to this character who's his brother
and for a second there it looked like his brother's face was like
CGI
because it didn't look like he was speaking
the words he was speaking
you know what they probably did
is like they changed the line of dialogue
or something and they went in and tried to
AI that makes sense
I think it was I think it was
the scene where they were
where they were speaking Russian
like it looked like
their mouths didn't match the words
they were saying
and they introduced
Rhino and I didn't care
about that.
Was it Paul Giamatti?
No.
This guy actually, he turns in,
his skin turns hard like a rhino.
It was not a robotic suit.
Hard like rhino.
It was just not good.
They made Craven not a villain.
He's a good guy.
It's got to be the anti-hero, right?
They introduced Calypso in the comic she was a villain,
not a villain in this movie
huh they keep doing
that well from what I
understand Sony has
thrown in the towel they said no more
these
Spider-Men spider-man
Spider-less villain movies
they're this I guess
they're done which
should have thrown in the towel a long time ago
and yeah this should have
I'm sorry for anybody that went to the
theater to watch this
oh wow
to the shit
I went to the theater at all.
Ouch.
That bad?
Come on, man.
You know, I didn't hate the trailer.
They put all the good shit in the trailer.
Yeah.
The story is so boring, Phil.
It's like when you, because it's rated R.
So when you get to the,
to the action scene, there's blood and stuff.
But when you get to it, you just don't care.
Oh, boy.
Fun.
So you might hear this movie again in a couple weeks on a list.
Oh, yeah, I'm going to have to catch up on some movies.
Never too late.
If I had to throw in a cool week, I did finish season two of Tulsa King.
Nice.
Fantastic show.
I forgot about that, man.
I watched the first couple of episodes and then forgot about it.
I might have to go back and watch it.
Frank Rillo with his cowboy hat and doing a New York slash Kansas City.
my boss thing he's got going on.
All right.
It's fun.
It's fun.
Yeah.
Why not?
But I do predict there, we're, I see we're going to lose some characters in season three.
I just think they're just kind of setting us up to love certain characters that they're going to just pull the rug from underneath us on.
So you think that'll be it, Brian?
Just like three seasons and done, you think?
Taylor Sheridan
writing it I think it can go as long as they want it to go
and Stallone is fucking fantastic
as this mom,
this man Freddy
I just said the character
the supporting cast is just amazing
they can go as long as they want
but
Stallone is
almost 80 so
Not a spring chicken, huh?
No
Still in good shape too
Yeah
better
than I've ever been in my life.
Yeah.
No, no doubt.
Same here.
Same here.
But that's all I got.
All right.
Tulsa King, man.
I'm writing it down.
All right.
All right.
What do I got?
A couple of Christmas movies this week, actually.
Of course.
Yeah, some classics.
Did a Christmas story.
Hadn't watched that one in a while.
So that was fun.
Okay.
For Gile.
It must be Italian.
And Christmas vacation.
I forgot how many people were in that movie.
It was like one of the guys from the Big Bang theory is Russ.
That's right.
Johnny Gilecki.
Yeah.
Johnny Gilecki.
Because they switched him out somewhere in the series, didn't they?
They did a great thing in the reboot where they looking through the family out.
Because the kids have been different in every vacation movie.
So every family picture was like different set of kids.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, good call back there.
And the, and, uh, let's see, his wife's mom was, uh, the mom from everybody loves Raymond.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
That's right.
Crazy.
Julia Lewis was the sister.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of fun, man.
I like going back and watching the classics.
The squirrel in the tree.
The cat, the cat, the wire.
Yeah.
Clark got in the attic.
Jelly of the Month Club.
Jelly of the Month Club.
The guy keeps on giving all year round.
This is the dude walking through the attic.
I'm like, what are you doing?
That's the opposite way you're supposed to do this.
Yeah, you would know, dude.
I was in an attic yesterday.
But yeah, that's all I got.
So Christmas vacation.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Putting it down.
So, yeah, really, I don't, I don't know why, well, I posted it.
Nez put a smiling face, Brian, for carry-on.
Maybe it's because he works in an airport and he knows how far-fetched that movie was.
But he always did watch Carry-on also.
He told me, listen to the next E-Society.
I can't wait.
He has some things to say about that movie regarding an airport and how it works.
Yeah, little far-fetched, but it was fun.
It was good fun, like an old James Bond movie.
It was fun.
I liked it a lot.
I'm a big Jason Bateman fan.
I know he plays the same character in every movie, but I like he's a...
And he did say buddy.
He did say buddy, Brian.
Yeah, he did.
Let me tell you how this is going to work.
You just do nothing, okay?
I really like Taryn Edgerton.
I don't think we've seen him enough since Kingsman.
I know he did that.
movie about that skier and then he did the Tetris movie but
Eddie the Eagle oh yeah and he did the Elton John movie
yeah I thought oh that's right that's right that's right he was finding all those I
just don't think I don't know who the fuck his agent is
yeah I figured he'd be a scanner shot for sure by now he did the Kingsman and then
he was all in these rumors about all these different superheroes and then
just haven't really seen him in much.
Yeah, he'd be perfect in a superhero movie.
Kind of surprising, huh?
Yeah.
And they had a pretty hot girlfriend in this one, too.
Yeah.
That never hurts.
No.
Okay, yeah, so that was fun,
but I'm going to definitely give credit where credit is due.
My cool of the week is the final season of what we do in the shadows.
Oh, it's over?
It's over, man.
A TV show I never thought we needed, and I was like super skeptical about.
And they didn't have a single episode that wasn't like spot on perfect.
So they like they really expanded the universe a lot.
They've got like a Frankenstein's monster in this one.
They've still got the swear wolves.
They've got zombies.
They've got like a great episode, which is like the Warriors,
where it's all these different groups of vampires that are chasing them down through New York City.
so dressed as baseball players
dressed as baristas
it's just amazing
that's funny
gotta love it man
gotta love it and they kept that same crew together
and yeah it was sad to see it
sad to see it go but
they did not allow it to jump the shark
so you got to respect that right
six seasons is a good run
yeah yeah I think I've only seen the first season
I'm going to go back and watch it
got to catch up it's what I can see myself
watching you know again for sure
a couple of times probably
because there's stuff that
you know I kind of like forgot I'm like
because all the characters kind of grow
but then at the end they're like
exactly the same characters that were in the first season
and that's hard to do
they pulled it off
so cool of the week what we do in the shadows
season six
Brian
got any headlines man
let's see
mostly release dates
uh Paul Fee
his movie The House Maid
starring Sidney
gets a December 25th,
2025 release date.
I like the sound of that.
The housemaid.
From what I understand,
it is based off of a popular book.
Okay.
Maybe put that on the list
for next year, Lance.
Maybe, yeah.
If Sidney Swiny pops up out of the book,
it's definitely on the list.
That'd be a hell of pop-up book.
Let's see.
Psychological horror thriller
Victorian Psycho starring Margaret
Qualley gets picked up by A24.
I'm not sure what to think about that.
That's a weird title.
Victorian Psycho?
Victorian Psycho.
Is that what you said?
Like Jack the Ripper?
Yeah, could be.
Okay.
Listen to Huey Lewis in the news or what?
Let's see.
The Weekend.
the singer is doing a horror movie called Hurry Up,
which also stars Jenna Ortega.
This comes out May 16, 2025.
When you say he's doing it, he's like starring in it or he's...
Yes, starring.
Okay.
All right, I'm okay with that.
I think it has to do with his recent albums he's doing.
I guess it was supposed to be like a trilogy of albums
and this is supposed to be a lead-up to the third one.
Oh.
Okay.
Well, look, it makes sense.
It does make sense because the weekend,
I know that he was like in charge of one of the haunts at horror nights at Universal
the year before last.
So I saw some videos.
I guess he's really into horror.
Oh, that's cool.
You can tell about some of his videos that he throws a little horror-esque stuff in there.
Yeah.
Well, he's obviously very performative.
So I imagine he's got some acting chaps.
Lance
You did not like the coffee table
I
Wasn't way
He didn't hate it
But yeah I didn't hate it
I just expected more I guess
It was oversold to me
It is getting a Turkish remake from the
director who did the movie
You ever seen the movie Baskin
About the cops that are basically going to hell
No but I kind of want to see it
Maybe David
Barton will finally recommend some movies.
Yeah, David, that's, we haven't, we haven't did Baskin.
He got his t-shirt.
Cool.
Baskin can go on the list.
We haven't done that one.
That's a pretty good one.
All right, cool.
Let's do it.
Let's just say David picked it.
The director, Ken Everall, is doing,
he's, I believe, a Turkish director.
He's doing a remake of the coffee table.
Every time I hear Turkish,
I just think of Turkish.
delight. Like that horrible candy. It's like
Nuget and. Oh.
If the movie... Or snatch.
He does the movie anything like he did
Baskin. The movie should be probably a little bit more
fucked up than it was.
Okay.
Some good guns at a turkey. Canick.
Great grand. Got to say.
Nice. Let's see. Brian Bertino's
Vicious starring Dakota Fanning has been
removed from its February release.
state. So it's probably
not a good thing for the movie.
Okay.
Are they just pushing it back?
I think it was
supposed to come out
during the summer, then it got bumped
all the way up to February, and then it just
got completely removed.
Oh, well, that's not good.
So I see possible
streaming coming up.
I hope it doesn't get the Batgirl treatment.
I know. It just disappears. They're like the
Roger Corman
fantastic for her please somebody still explain how you spend like 60 million dollars
shelve a movie for tax purposes and then you you save money oh man the the department of movie
making efficiency yeah dome needs to come after that one and i think oh probably the biggest
news is uh lee cronin director of evil did rise finally announced
his next movie and he is doing his version of the mummy.
Okay.
Like classic mummy or Brennan Fraser Mummy?
I think he quoted this is going to be a little bit more gritty, a little bit more...
Nice.
Okay.
Gritty, violent from...
I don't know, he used words like deep from the earth, stuff like that.
All right.
But I've liked all his movies.
so far. And especially, I think we all
like evil dead rise.
Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm for
it. Well, and the mommy character
is pretty cool. I like that ancient
Egyptian stuff. And Phil
James Wan is producing.
Oh, well, that's
a tick mark on the downside.
And I think we'll leave off of news
with Damien
Leonie. Or Leon.
Yes. We know
I'm from Terror Fire, directed all three movies.
wants to direct a Friday to 13th movie.
Okay.
He wants to make it bloodier, gorier than any Friday of 13th movie has ever been.
That's a tall order.
I mean, that'd be great, but okay.
Do you guys think if they ever get these movie rights sorted out that they would give it to him?
Yes.
It'd be a great, great pick, right?
Yeah, I mean, I'm not, I've been disappointed.
But if they get the movie right sorted out, I think it's going to be big enough where they could probably hand it off to somebody like high production value stuff.
Yeah, that's why I ask the question because that's a big franchise.
Yeah.
So would they go bigger name director or would they give it to somebody that?
No, no, no, I don't think they wouldn't.
here's why because Marvel, for example, has taken chances on a lot of directors that have done like, you know, smaller budget stuff and horror movies and stuff like that that haven't been like super high profile and they've just given them the money and they've done great shit with it. So give them a chance. I think he deserves it.
Yeah. And he really wants to do it. He sounds like he's a fan of the franchise and I think it's always good when directors are fans of the project.
Oh, shit.
Oh, yeah.
Just asked the last couple of Star Wars people, right?
Yeah.
No kidding.
Never seen an episode or a movie, but, you know.
Oh, one more thing.
28 years later, the Bone Temple, which is the sequel to next year's 28 years later,
because they're making a trilogy.
They're filming these back-to-back.
Oh.
This one's directed by Naya da Costa, who did The New Candy Man.
this movie gets a January 16, 2026 release date.
So we have to wait less than a year after.
She's a good director for that because these aren't exactly feel-good movies, right?
Yeah.
I think that makes sense.
And I think one of the producers said that is not Sillian Murphy in the trailer as one of the zombies.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
That would be a twist.
But they said he is in the movie some way.
they just like a gray wig and a beard or what they just
left it at that he is in the he is in a movie some way somehow
but they didn't say who how
where
that's a weird and cryptic thing to say about silly and murphy
like the guy but it's not like you
you know for all we know it could be like archive footage
from the original movie that they show and then they'd be like see he's in
a movie yeah i guess yeah i guess
cop out
All right, that's the news.
All right, Philip, you ready to go on down to trailer park?
Let's go.
Okay.
Brian is, as always, is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird.
And I think that fits the bill tonight, Brian.
What do you think?
Yep, because we are going to A24 for our only trailer this week,
and it is Death of a Unicorn starring Paul Rudd and Jenna Ortega.
a lot of other recognizable faces.
This is directed and written by Alex Schwartman.
I believe this is the first
directorial movie he's doing.
Hmm. Okay.
Yeah, but I think he's worked in Hollywood a lot.
Like, then, like, production and special effects.
Yeah, I looked up, he's done, worked on a lot of movies
with production, like The Witch and Resurrection,
Rebecca Hall, and
stuff like that.
I was going to say, for a first-time director,
he's got some big names in this movie.
No doubt. Yeah.
I'd be the next Ariostr.
Maybe.
It's definitely weird,
but
it looks pretty funny.
I mean, I love Paul Rudd.
Jenna Ritega is great.
Just in the trailer alone,
that one kid from
God damn it,
I can't remember the name of that movie
with Jennifer Aniston.
Oh, yeah.
Will Poulter?
Yes.
With the forehead and the eyebrows?
Yeah, him.
Like, he's got some one-liners just in the trailer that are pretty amazing.
Sure.
Yeah, I can't believe he's going through that situation in swim trunks.
I know.
That was funny.
I'll give this one a shot for sure.
It's definitely out there, though.
Lance
I'm totally on board
this has all the makings of a top 10 movie of the year
for me so I'm probably
going to be disappointed because I like going
and expecting too much and Hugh Grant
for God's sake
coming out of here to do Grant
that wasn't he Grant
that was Richard E. Grant
oh it was his brother
yeah
okay
you can tell this Richard E. Grant because he's very
like animated and
or animated
made it.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I'm all in.
Either way.
Give me either Grant.
Give me an oopalupa.
Whatever.
I'm all in.
Looks fun.
If you want to see a wacky,
Richard E. Grant character,
watch,
what's the one with Bruce Willis?
Where he's the Hudson Hawk,
where he's the cat.
Oh, God.
That's going way back.
Yeah.
That movie had a long time.
Richard E. Grant is the fucking villain,
and he is like over the top of everything in that movie.
Have you ever seen a child?
Chinese phone book, there's a lot of long
numbers.
Where did that come out?
Oh, that hadn't been like early.
Yeah, I would say like 92, 93.
Oh, man. Wow.
I've never seen it when it came out.
I don't remember the movie at all.
It's been a while, been a while.
But, you know, Bruce Willis was huge then.
Oh, yeah.
Death of a unicorn.
Does not have a set release date,
but is expected in 2025.
It's still in post-production.
Seems like a weird movie for A-24.
It's hard for me to say that anymore, though, Philip,
because they're doing everything.
They did Marcelle and the Shell with Snail or Marshall the Snail or what?
I think this is going to be.
Like the gloves are off at A-24.
I think this is going to be next year's I saw the TV glow.
Okay.
Okay.
Just kind of a weird, wacky.
off-the-wall movie that just kind of came out of nowhere.
Because I heard about this movie a while ago that they were making it about a unicorn,
and I was just like, sounds like one of those movies that they announced that just never gets made.
Yeah.
Right.
Like a unicorn.
The premise of it makes me go, what are we doing?
I know, I know.
But they've got the people to pull it off.
Agreed.
All right.
That's our only trailer this week.
All right, on to listener feedback.
This week we shine the podcast spotlight on horrors yet unseen.
The podcast where we assign each other horror movies to watch and then talk about it here.
So our spouses don't have to listen to us go on and on about scary stuff they don't like.
There will be spoilers.
I know, that's awesome.
Great idea for a podcast.
Kind of what we do, really?
Pretty much, yeah.
Stephen Loblad posted in the group
Good Friday, boys, with his horror returns
Coozy.
Nice.
Brian has never seen.
I've seen pictures.
It's on this way, Brian.
It takes a long time to get to Alaska.
I know.
You got to send it with those ice road truckers.
Put down a New Jersey drone, Philip.
There you go.
I talked about earlier.
Give it to the aliens, man.
There you go.
Let's see.
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle.
Stephen also posted,
I definitely agree with Steve Carlton, is a great game.
I picked this up a couple of weeks ago and absolutely love it.
This is probably the movie we should have gotten instead of Dial of Destiny.
Okay.
Yeah, I would agree.
Because I've seen the original trilogy countless times.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've only seen the last two movies.
I've seen Crystal Skull twice once in theaters and once it came out.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, Brian.
And I've seen Dial of Destiny once.
Was Diala Destiny worse than Crystal Skull?
Yes.
I figured it would be.
I haven't even watched that one.
Crystal Skull could be.
Yeah.
Thick of Destiny is a classic movie.
That one's great.
Crystal Skull is,
like so bad it's good levels
of what they tried to do
in the movie because they seriously thought
they were doing something great in that movie.
I like the storyline of the whole
Crystal Skull thing, even though like
in reality most of them are fake
but the real Crystal Skulls
it's a fun lore
you know, before I knew that they were
all fake.
What's this?
Shia LeBoof
as much.
Worst fucking character in the franchise.
Ouch.
Didn't they kill him off finally?
Spoilers.
Oh.
Well.
That's okay.
I think you're okay to spoil shit movies.
Yeah.
All right.
I got to play the game, though.
Now I really want to get it.
Yeah.
It's on Game Pass.
Game Pass is like 20 bucks a month.
Yeah.
Everything's on Game Pass.
I was going to say, I think we might have Game Pass.
And it's not like Logan ever uses his damn Xbox.
He's always on the computer.
I'll just move that motherfucker in the living room.
There you go.
With my old NES, I've got restored.
I think I might jump on it this week.
I think I pay for Game Pass and I never use it.
Yeah.
That's the worst.
Well, I think that's kind of what they're banking on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like a gym membership.
Yeah.
All right.
Paul Ragsdale says,
I'm very happy people are still discovering
murder size to this day.
Oh, boy.
That's a fun
boob-filled movie.
Huh. I don't know that I've never
seen it.
It's a
film crew filming one of those
like exercise. You remember in the
80s those exercise shows?
Aerobics or whatever.
Jane Fond and shit.
Yeah. They're like filming that and like
somebody's killing
people on set one by one.
That's kind of funny.
I like it.
And one of the actresses, Jessa Flux, who I believe is in our Facebook group, is in the movie, and she has a great scene, and she's very talented, if you know what I mean.
All right.
Nice.
But Paul Ragsdale is the director, and he's also in our Facebook group.
Awesome.
Oh, I had no idea.
All right.
Shout out to Paul.
Thanks for listening.
He is currently about to release his new movie with, I believe, a lot of the same cast from Murder Size, called Only Fangs, a vampire movie.
We got to cover that one, Brian.
I love him this guy.
We might do a double feature, Murder Size and Only Fangs.
Oh, man.
Oh, we should do that.
We did get a trailer, guys.
I'll forward it to y'all.
Okay.
And B. Germain says,
Hey, everyone, it's finally arrived.
Mine and my friend Sam Inglis's new podcast,
Beed and Sam versus the Video Nasty's,
is now online at all podcast streaming platforms
via the podcast feed for the main show.
Congratulations.
Bees got him like a series of these Beed verses.
No shit.
I know.
That's cool.
The Beativerse.
The Beativerse.
Yeah.
I like it.
Let's see.
for the substance, which I still haven't seen.
I need to watch before the years over.
You got a few days left, Bill.
Assume it's going to make a list.
Nebel Yassine Amin says,
Nabil, my bad.
Back to the practical effects,
which is 100% more effective,
especially in horror movies than the stupid CGI effects.
I 100% agree.
Tracy Harrison says,
saw this last night, brilliantly
acted, my kind of movie. Had it all.
There you go. I haven't heard much bad about it.
I know, I haven't either. I've seen some recent
comments. I don't even know what it's
about. Lance, when it gets...
When it gets to the end,
people felt like it kind of went off the
rails a little bit.
Yeah, but I think
on a rewatch, it might make more sense.
I don't know. It felt like
one of those endings. Like it
was jarring.
Off the rails could be a good thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think you'd like it, Phil.
Okay.
I think it worked with the movie,
with what they were trying to say.
Marky Best.
Watched Terror Fire 3 last week for the first time and absolutely loved it.
I think it's my new favorite Christmas movie.
That shower scene was just like, wow.
I was like, holy fucking shitballs.
The whole movie kicks ass, though.
From start to finish, I loved every second of it.
Can't wait to see the fourth one.
Nice. That one's gotten some mixed reviews, though. I loved it.
Yeah, I think that guy's back again crying about the kids getting killed.
I think he made a third comment.
We got to block them from Facebook.
I'm like, I understand you don't like it, but quit commenting the same thing on different posts.
I know. It's like a social justice warrior.
He's passionate about his opinion.
that's fine.
Yes.
Jesus, we get it.
It's just a movie.
Yeah, that's what several people told them.
I think you really killed a kid.
Everybody keeps telling them,
happen off screen.
They didn't show anything.
It's just a movie.
Get over it.
I think it's the same people
that keep seeing his comment.
Yeah, they're having the same argument.
Makes sense.
Let's see.
For the grimly,
fan poster David Barta says now that's cool.
Grimlins. I tried to watch that one. Nobody wanted to watch it with me today.
Oh.
And The Haunting of Hill House.
Juha Salonan says one of the greatest shows ever seen it five times.
Oh yeah, dude, the show was pretty great.
I immediately thought the movie when I read that and I was like, what?
Yes.
Okay.
he's all right yeah or flanagan magic right that was the first one wasn't it the
yeah yeah he's done nothing but impressed me since well i don't think any of us finished
that young adult one he did that one i couldn't stick with yeah that's true
that one the descendants or what was it called brian i don't know that's how much i didn't care about it
I don't remember the name.
All right.
Let's see.
For American Psycho, Jason Wellings-Garries says, another movie that does not need a remake.
Can they not come up with original ideas anymore so they have to do hack jobs on classics?
Uh-oh.
It may be good.
Yes.
Oh, and I reported it wrong.
It is not a remake.
It is no retelling of the...
They're going more.
more off the book and I understand there was a lot of differences in the book.
So it's not a remake of the original film.
Okay, it's a remake off the original original.
It's a, yeah, it's going off the source material.
So of course, there probably will be like some of the same scenes.
References to the original movie because the movie also went off some of the book, but I reported it wrong.
It's not a remake.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, well, that may change things for me.
I think I'm more okay with that because I was kind of where Jason was.
I was like, man,
really?
American Psycho was great.
Why don't mess with it.
But yeah, if it's off the book, I'll watch that.
And I think Austin Butler is a good choice.
Elvis, huh?
Elvis, and then he played the villain in Dune Part 2.
Right. Oh, okay.
Yeah, Sting's character, wasn't it?
Yeah, so Fade.
Mashed Elvis and Fade
into one character.
All right.
Patrick Baveman.
I'll take that.
Shelby Edmund says,
I'm very hesitant on this new one. I love the book
and the movie, and the musical adaptation
was all right. There's a what?
But nothing can beat our
Christian Bale's performance.
I think
that's the problem. Christian Bale did such a
killer job on that movie
that it's hard to imagine anybody else doing
it. Yeah. I mean,
I've always said it
like, I don't care, remake anything.
It doesn't change how good the original one
is. Yeah. Because I know when people
like, oh, you ruined the original movie.
No, it doesn't change the original movie.
It's still the same original movie.
Well, one would argue
one would argue
the new Exorcist movie made
the original look even better.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
I guess that's probably true.
And we got a lot of shitty
Exorcist movies that will probably
lead us to a good one because Mike Flanagan,
who we just talked about, is doing the new one.
Yeah.
He's not going off.
He's playing with fire.
He's not going.
He said he's not doing a continuation.
He's doing his own.
I'm Mike Flanagan, dude, totally.
I'll watch that.
Yeah, I don't know.
The shitty movies just hurt the brand a little bit.
I think, but there's just some certain directors that I'm just like, I'm going to give it a chance.
Just like, we didn't talk about it.
We probably could have talked about trailers, but the new Superman trailer.
I thought it looked fantastic and James Gunn's doing it.
But a lot of people are like, it's too, it's too colorful, it's too this, it's too bad.
Why is this dog in the movie?
I'm like, Crypto, the dog has been around since 50s.
that's right
and this stuff is based off
comic books are colorful yeah
well and that's that's the other
thing though that's one that's based more off the
source material than the movie and these
these are the people that are mad because their
original you know
Christopher Reeve Superman is not in it
yeah they're like I saw one comment
it was like the Superman
it looked too colorful it looked too
goofy why is Nathan Philly
and got a bowl cut
that version of green
Green Lantern had a bowl cut
in the comic books.
And that version of the Greenlander
is going to be a fucking asshole in the movie.
I think they picked a good actor to do it.
I don't know.
It's James Gunn.
James Gunn doesn't have done wrong by me, so.
That's what I'm saying.
He's like,
even through the shit sludge
that's been the last few Marvel movies,
James Gunn has still been going pretty strong.
All the Guardians movies are great.
We'll see.
Consistent. Yeah, consistent.
Let's see. Santa Slay.
Deva Rogers says, not bad.
Goldberg.
Oh, that one, yeah.
That was fun.
That's a good one, man.
Yeah.
See him returning 2025 for his,
with the same final retirement match.
How old is he?
I think he's in the 60s.
Jesus Christ, man.
It's going to break a hip.
He's wrestled.
the past couple years.
That's crazy.
He had that match where he almost killed the Undertaker.
Legit.
Almost killed him.
Who's also almost 60.
No wonder he almost died.
If he got older.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because he, uh, concussed himself in the ring.
Oh, God.
Wanted to continue with the match and decided to suplex the undertaker and
dropped him right on the back of his neck.
Oh.
Dude.
Even guys like that, you can't do the same stuff that you did when you were in your 30s, man.
Yeah.
It's fun to fantasize that you can do.
I know.
Reality can.
I mean, he's still.
Look at professional football.
Yeah.
True.
Let's see.
In regards to Tusk, Matthew Paraguay says, weird movie.
Imagine all that being done to a person in real life.
But yeah, yeah, the ending was a bit sad.
Yeah.
What did you expect?
Just in a long look happy.
Did he?
They just kept feeding him fish, going fish at him.
Yeah, you look happy.
Somebody was coming to visit him, beating him.
That's true.
It was a bit sad.
I like that movie.
That one has a special place in my heart.
Wolfman.
Adam Lewis says hope it's as good as full moon fever.
The Tom Petty?
I don't know.
Okay.
As I'm not sure what full moon fever is.
That's the only full moon fever I know.
That's what came to my head.
But I think it looks pretty good.
I like that they haven't actually like shown the wolf in the trailers.
I think this movie's going to be.
Go ahead.
No, that's a good move.
What do you think, Brian?
You anticipate good things?
I think this movie's going to be decisive.
Oh, great.
I think there's going to be people like,
that's not a werewolf.
Night swim.
Night swim part deal, huh?
You think they're going to have a weird
werewolf?
I think it's going to be
something more
realistic.
Yeah.
Then the guy getting bit by wolf and changing.
I think it's going to be more of a
virus.
Yeah.
That makes them look wolf-like,
but not actually be a wolf.
But his, yeah, his
bones are not all fucking changing and shit probably.
I don't know.
I like the trailer.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to it.
I think it's going to be good.
Yeah.
Let's see.
In regards to the fly,
fan art poster.
David Barta says,
I love this.
Definitely have people scratching their heads afterwards as it seems to me
to convey something much lighter and brighter than the actual film.
Yeah.
The fly is pretty dark.
Yeah.
You see this poster.
you'll, and you've never seen a movie, and you're like, oh, this looks like a fun movie.
It is fun, but not the way the poster makes it seem like.
Yeah, it's terrifying.
I love that movie.
I even like the 50s one.
That was pretty good.
Yeah.
Help me.
Yeah.
The Strangers, Chapter 1.
Billy Snickers says, this movie is absolute fucking garbage.
All right.
I really feel like if these next two movies go the way I think they're going to go to.
I think people are going to go back to this first one and just go to be like, okay, I see what they were trying to do here.
I'm with you, dude.
I have faith, too, yeah.
I think he took the original idea, and he's, I have faith in Rennie Harlan.
I think he took the original idea, and he's going to expand on it the way it should have been done.
But we'll see.
Because that trailer for that second one, it just gave me no feels of that original movie.
it's like we're expanding the story so and we get Richard break back that's the important I don't think
it's I don't think we're going to look back and think the Strangest Chapter 1 was good but we're
going to be like okay I understand I get it yeah I hope so or we could just be justifying a movie
that we're like well there's no way that he did this without some kind of plan because
you can't be that bad I just
Guys, I just want movies to be good.
I know.
Let's see.
In regards to crampus,
Jimmy Crosby says,
love this movie,
watch it every year.
I walked in the living room yesterday,
and my daughter was watching this movie.
I was like,
I was great.
I sat down and watched it with her.
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So this I don't know you haven't either
This will be a first watch for all three of us
Yep first watch
Pink Flamingos
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That'll be fun
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Oh, Lance, we have
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try to schedule for
soon.
For Lars?
Yeah. He wants us to do
Mad God, which is like the
play nation.
I always kind of wanted to watch it. I never
have. And he says
he's going to try to be on with us this time.
He's always had the best commentaries.
Remember, he had Cemetery Man
for us and he had El Dia de la Bestia.
Oh yeah.
That was a great movie.
All right.
On to featured attractions.
We will wish you Merry Christmas
with Silent Night Deadly Nights, Part 2 and 3.
Silent Night Deadly Night 2 from 1987.
It's the terrorizing sequel to the film
that shocked a nation by breaking all
the rules.
It's silent night, deadly night.
Part 2, Santa's back,
and he's mighty miffed at the naughty nun who drove his demented brother
on a murderous rampage that made headlines across the country.
Now, step by step, weapon by weapon, victim by victim,
Santa's going to finish what his brother started.
So you better watch out, you better not pout,
because Santa Claus is coming to your town,
and he knows who's been naughty and who's been nice.
Hold on tight for the sequel that'll chill you through your very soul.
The now adult Ricky talks to a psychiatrist about how he became a murderer after his brother Billy died, which leads back to Mother Superior.
Director is Lee Harry, also known for Women and the Pill and the Way It Works.
All right.
Sounds like a health-class documentary.
Writers are Lee Harry and Joseph Earl.
Daryl Gilbo, who plays a 15-year-old Ricky in a brief scene with actually 24 at the time.
No surprise there.
Eric Freeman frequently received conflicting direction from director Lee, Harry, and co-writer Joseph Earl during filming.
Freeman had wanted to play Ricky more as a cold and malevolent killer, but Harry envisioned Ricky is more of a wise cracking killer along the lines of Freddie Kruger.
While Earl encouraged Freeman to be as over the top as possible in his acting.
Well, that shows.
All right, Lance, you want to start us off on this one?
These are going to be very, very difficult to review.
these movies are both
in my opinion
these movies are both firmly
under the so bad it's good
like moniker like totally
so this
this movie bored the fuck out of me
the first 45 minutes right
because it was literally
scene for scene retreads from the first
movie right it just
you don't need to re-watch the first one
just put in the second one yeah you literally
had every kill in it
Linnea quickly
nude
I don't remember what happened in the first one.
Yeah.
So, and that was kind of weird, and I thought, oh, man, this is going to be horrible.
But then when you get this new guy playing Ricky that's just like, yay!
Like just an evil frat boy, right?
Like this, you know, fucking, uh, never mind.
Those fucking eyebrows, dude.
Yeah.
They were going crazy.
I can't even do it.
The kills were great.
You know, it was a lot of.
fun, the maniacal cackling.
I don't know.
I think he definitely listened more to the co-writer,
because he was definitely more of the wisecracking,
Freddie Krueger.
And then who could forget that immortal line that I'll wait,
like one of you guys say,
that's become a meme for the ages, but...
Garbage Day.
Ah, man, I got a stew.
I got a stew and listen to you guys before I can come up with my score on this one.
It's really that tough.
Yeah, I was kind of thinking the same thing.
I got a pest up a time.
Brian, what do you think?
I love this movie.
I agree.
We didn't need a 40-minute recap of the original movie.
I mean, well, maybe Phil did because he didn't remember the original one.
But once we get to adult version of, was it Ricky?
Sure.
Or Billy?
No, Rick, I think Billy was the brother.
Yeah, this is like, he completely goes over the top, and I love it just the way he's talking about everything.
I know, it's like he's totally diametric, like, opposed in some scenes.
I know.
Like, he comes out on the motorcycle and he's looking all badass, but like the scene before, he was like a super nice funny guy.
Right, right?
I love he has all these memories of stuff he's never seen.
Yeah.
I didn't even catch that, dude.
Of course, he has a memory of his parents getting killed, even though he was a baby.
A six-month-old baby?
Well, but he said that, you know, Billy told him what happened, and so he was retelling the story.
So I can deal with that.
Okay, I'll give him that.
But how about the memory of the police going into the wrong house chasing the wrong Santa?
yeah that's good point
maybe he watched the movie
they thought they got me didn't they
that garbage day thing
was totally out of left field that was amazing
oh that that's the whole start to that scene
is hilarious because he murders the
the ex-boyfriend I don't even know if he was
even to her ex-boyfriend just some guy she was fucking with
yeah right he straight murders him with jumper
cables in front of her and then she was like i hate him you killed him and then he's all like naughty and then
she's like uh-oh she knew she was in trouble those graphics the graphics of the electricity
from the jumper cables was so fucking late 80s right yeah you get you get bad effects like that but then you
get an awesome car stunt scene because when that car when he shoots that car and it goes up on two wheels
It dodges that stunt man by inches.
I know.
He was standing right there.
Yeah, and then it just fucking explodes.
And no CG out of fire.
It was all real.
Yeah.
Just the way it dodged him.
I was like, I know they didn't pay you enough for this movie to do that stunt.
That could have gone real wrong real quick.
No doubt.
But I had a lot of fun.
The kills were fun.
There's a lot of quotable stuff.
I love that he just played the character over the top
because he could have just been coming into this movie,
like, I'm going to play this character serious,
and he didn't do that.
And I'm glad that the writer gave him the freedom to do that
because I think it just made the movie that more memorable and fun.
So, yeah, fun watch.
Yeah, I think I'm going to agree with you on that.
Like, had he not been so over the top and fucking weird the whole movie,
like, I think it puts,
probably would have been just some boring movie that we never talk about.
Although I don't know how many people are talking about Silent Night, Deadly Night too.
Well, there's a whole bunch of them.
The way that he played it was pretty hilarious, and I loved it.
Like, every time he talked, it was like when he was really getting serious,
like those eyebrows would start going.
And like, I couldn't stop watching it.
I was like, how does he even do that?
it's a talent
it takes talent philip
and then by the end of the movie
I was like I'd see somebody
and be like naughty
oh worse
and then of course
the worst guy ever in the movie theater
yeah oh yeah
oh yeah and what a weird
what a weird movie theater huh
looked like a classroom or something
I was like yeah kill this guy
yeah he might have had that coming a little bit
just a little
But yeah, no, I actually did.
It's not a good movie.
I got it, for starters.
But it is a lot of fun.
And it kept my interest, which I guess sort of makes it a good movie.
It's definitely in the so bad it's good territory.
Yeah, agreed.
All right.
Scores, Lance, what do you think?
Oh, man.
I'll go six.
I'll go night swim.
Nice.
this one i'll go six six as good as night swim i love it there you go i'd watch this again
before i watch night swim again i'd me too 10 like 12 12 times uh brian i'm gonna go a little bit
higher seven i had a lot of fun i've rewatched this a lot of times lanch you like you said the
the garbage day is like so quotable i always see it on social
media at this time of year.
Right.
And, yeah, a fun movie.
Yeah, no, I think I'm going to agree with you.
I think it gets a seven.
That's probably not what the score started out as, but after talking to you guys about it,
it's a lot of fun, man.
I had a good time with this movie, and I'd totally be willing to watch it again.
This may go on the watch it every year list.
Yeah, why not?
Garbage Day.
It was funny.
All right. Silent Night, Deadly Night 3, 1989.
Enter a world of dreams.
Laura, tell me what you saw in your dream.
I told you, Dr. Newberry.
Santa Claus.
A world of silence.
Subject may be making contact.
I don't want to see the future or the past.
I just want to be normal.
A world of madness.
No one.
The comatose Ricky Caldwell, that's...
The comatose Ricky Caldwell reawakens and begins to stalk a blind woman,
who he shares a psychic connection with. Yep. That's the plot of the movie.
Director is Monty Hellman, also known for Cockfighter and Road to Now Cockfighter.
Now, Cockfighter.
What does he mean?
I know.
I don't know.
He directed it.
Did he do Cockfighter and then transition to a different genre?
I don't know what Cockfighter is.
Wack, wah, wah.
Riders, Rex Weiner, also known for the adventures of Ford Fair Lane.
Great movie.
we get even stephen lowblad on us uh or with uh on with us for that because he's such a motley cree fan and they play a prominent role in that movie oh nice cockfighter and rex weiner can't make this stuff up folks all right uh let's see director uh monnie helman attended a screening of the movie in july 2008 at the alamo draft house in austin uh where he said he thought it was his best work
though not his best movie.
Explain that?
I can understand.
Okay.
The movie was rushed into production.
The original script was discarded and rewritten in one week, starting in March 1989.
Principal photography had finished by the end of April editing was done in May, and the movie was first screened at a film festival in July 1989.
All right.
I can see what he's saying.
he probably had to go up against a lot of script changes, interference, like they said, being rushed, and he got a movie out.
Yeah, it's movie.
But he agrees it's not his best movie.
Brian, what do you think about this one?
Again, we get another recap of the first movie for some reason.
because our lead
character is some sort of psychic
she's blind
and is doing experiments
and is being hooked up to Ricky
who's survived the original one and is comatose
and she's got an attitude
man she has got an attitude
doesn't she
some
well with the later with the front desk lady
I was like okay
you're a little much
but then when she meets
her rock star boyfriend's
her brother's girlfriend
yeah
she was a little much
that was a great line
yeah that was a great line man
we got Bill Mosley
this time is Ricky
who's got some sort of
contraption on his head
yeah yeah that's him
dead ringer huh
for the actor that played Ricky
in the second one
yeah
this movie is not good
I did not like any of the characters
I hated the lead girl as the final girl
she was annoying
they didn't really explain
or at least maybe I blacked out
but I don't know if they really explain
her abilities and what she could do
and why the grandma showing up at the end there
and yeah I was like
what's it your grandma of force ghost now
I mean what's going on
I think that was part of the having to write the script and weak thing.
Okay.
Could be.
I didn't like the brother.
I felt like he was probably the worst actor in the movie.
Oh, reminded me of that guy in Rock and Roll Nightmare with a Star Wars battle.
Thor.
John Michael Thor?
Uh-huh.
The girlfriend was irritating and she's not a nice person.
She wanted to take a bath in that tiny tub with her boyfriend.
And Granny's tub, huh?
And he had to have the faucet side.
That's not nice.
That's not being thoughtful.
Kills were horrible.
And I say this because they were all off screen.
For the most part, I guess, yeah.
We could have had some cool ones with the gas station worker.
but you just hear his death off screened,
and you see his head sitting down.
I felt like all that was the budgetary reasons
why they couldn't show kills.
That was a funny scene, though, you gotta admit,
because she's talking dirty to him on the phone
and then there at the end his head is just sitting there.
She's saying, oh, I'm getting wet in my panties.
Yeah, but when they came back and showed the head,
it was like a whole scene later, I was like, I don't.
necessarily even needed to be there.
Editing was fucking atrocious
in this movie, wasn't it? Yeah, the editing
was bad. The storytelling
now did I hear this
trivia, how they had to write the script in a
week. Yeah, makes
sense. Rewarted, probably
many times as they were gone.
I understand, because nothing
makes... Nothing makes
sense in this movie. It was just a bunch of
stuff thrown together.
Yeah. And
the ending was just
fucking ridiculous with him in a suit, Ricky in a suit, saying happy New Year everyone,
or whatever the fuck he said.
I was just like, what the fuck is happening?
And happy New Year.
Yeah, that's going off the rails.
Jump the shark, huh?
But I do, in my weird sort of way, do appreciate that they did try to continue from the original
two movies bringing this Ricky character, because I don't know if you get.
guys have seen four and five they have nothing to do with they have nothing they have nothing to do
with rickie or billy and they are fucking weird like weird do we at least get ricky bobby in one of them
that would have been that would have added to the weirdness but well that's all right at least they
don't have to retell the same story four times we get clint howard yeah oh nice all right
But yeah, not a good continuation of the story.
All right.
Lance, what do you think?
I think I might have enjoyed it a little more than Brian did.
So I kind of like that beginning scene, like where it showed her.
It looked like she was waking up out of the bed in the hospital.
But, you know, of course, we find out it was a dream sequence.
But, like, she's going down those hallways, and I got a real weird, like, Don Coscarelli type vibe.
Like it was something he might have directed with the white.
Yeah, kind of like the white hallways and the like super, you know, like surrealistic, which makes sense because we find that it was a dream sequence.
But, you know, then she's got Santa Claus there at the end of the hallway, like going like this.
And she's like, help me, Santa.
And runs toward him.
He's like, come sit on my left, little girl, you know.
I thought that was kind of crazy.
Real quick.
Was, was her, was she fucking the doctor?
He was creepy as fuck.
Because she said like some flirtatious stuff.
She said some flirtatious stuff.
And then and then when she left and he was talking to the nurse and she was like,
she's going to come back because she loves it.
And she wants it.
She loves it.
She wants to eat it up.
She wants to slobber all over it.
But she had said something like he asked a question.
She was like, oh, doctor.
Yeah.
I was like, what the fuck is happening here?
That was.
bizarre, but what about the relationship with her and her fucking brother?
Yeah.
Kissing and hugging tight and she's like, we're two peas in a pod and you're my other
half and that was fucked up too.
He helps her with her shirt on, even though she clearly seems independent and can do stuff
by herself, but she's dressed.
Yeah, so these kind of things kind of made me enjoy the movie a little just because it was
so fucking out there, right? And I kind of enjoyed the way it was filmed, at least. And
it's almost like the director tried to have a vision, but like you guys are saying, they
changed everything up, like midstream and had to rewrite it and all that. The editing
probably got in the way of what the vision could have been. But yeah, I think I enjoyed it
more than you did. Brian, I definitely think it was like so bad it's good. Yeah, there weren't
a lot of, you know, really good kills and stuff like that. I love the comp.
it was like, you know, well, you know, you, you psychic, touchy-feely type or like, you know, let's save their soul.
And I'm like, I'm going to stomp on their soul.
That's my job, you know.
And that guy was a great, a great character.
And for fuck's sake, in the late 80s, we actually got to see a cellular phone in a car in use.
And that was like, like, did you see him in the background, isn't it?
He's like, banging on it, like, because it's not working.
every time I refer
people it saves me an extra $100
I was like how fucking much is your bill
like old cellular plans that were like by the minute
$20 a minute and shit like that they were not cheap
you had to be a rich son of a bitch to have a cell phone back then
yeah and he's a cop right so go figure that shit out
but again all this shit made me kind of enjoy it
Bill Mosley's a national treasure I mean
yeah he was like totally underused and he didn't really have a lot of actual lines he just kind of shambled around with that fucking plastic over his brain that was my favorite part of the movie it was like what the fuck are we doing what did you what did you think philip uh i i i'm i thought it was kind of boring but i like that was i did like the bad guy in this one with the with the with the dome head and he had like
like this glass container where his brain was there and there's like blood sloshing aware out inside of it.
I found myself thinking during the movie, it's got to be kind of uncomfortable and weird to wear.
Let me ask you this. If you saw him, it would that get up, right? And wearing a white coat or whatever the
fuck he was wearing from the mental asylum, would you have picked him up as a hitchhiker if he was going on?
Oh, yeah. And I'd definitely give him a Christmas sweater to wear.
Anna took, Brian.
Anna took.
He gave him a took to put over his head.
Yeah.
Sometimes you're kind of just asking for it.
So I liked that character, but aside from that, the rest of the movie was pretty boring.
The story wasn't great.
The action scenes weren't great.
It dragged a lot.
And then you had old granny there basting the turkey and like 10 minutes of that.
bullshit.
Yeah.
Of him standing there like
a zombie and she's just acting like
nothing's fucking wrong.
They did not care
about their grandma.
I know.
She was missing.
Dinner's obviously been cooking.
I know.
She must have went to the store.
Yeah.
He just wanted
to get in the tub with his girl there.
Yeah.
get out of the tub and get to his sister.
I don't know what was going on there.
No, no doubt.
She did look a little like her, just saying.
Sometimes I had trouble telling them apart, to be honest with you.
It's almost like the one had to go out of their way to like one scene she was looking in a mirror.
Okay, that's the one that sees.
Right.
And another scene, the other thing, it was like grope groping around for something.
I'm like, okay, that's the blind one.
Right.
Weird.
Very weird.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was a wacky movie.
I don't know that I definitely didn't like it as much as the second one.
But it still was a little bit of fun.
All right.
Scores.
Brian?
I want to give it a four, but after Lance kind of bringing it up and the things he said,
he thought the director was trying to do,
and the director thinking he was doing his best work, but not his best movie.
I kind of now thinking about it to see the ideas that were there.
so I'm not going to give it a four I'll give it a five
nice nice okay
Lance I'm very close I'm very close
I have to give it a 5.25
simply because that's on my so bad it's good scale
right it price is right without Steve
yeah I'm like it five and if I liked it more than I didn't like it
it's just a little over and if I didn't like it more than I liked it
it's a little under so 5.25
nice
I'm going to go
I think that it bounced down into the so bad
and then almost came back up to that it's good
It tried
It just made it up to a four for me
I think
Okay
Still a good scoop
Not a bad school
Yeah no it wasn't a terrible movie
You guys wait till we get to
Part 4 the initiation
In part 5 the Toymaker
I can't wait
I'm actually a little excited about it
Super
Super weird stuff
I'll take that.
As long as it's something different.
All right.
I think that's it, huh?
Yeah, that's it.
As always, we want to thank you guys
for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns.
We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas.
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Next week,
see, we are going to be doing some
vampire action with
oh, the new
Nasferatu as well as
the 1922.
Did I read that right?
Yeah. Oh, holy shit.
The original was from 22.
Yeah. Over 100 years ago. Wow.
Okay, cool. Well, this should be interesting.
That's a 102-year-old movie.
And I've seen the new one
for people that have seen it
pop up on their
top five list.
All right.
Ah, we still have time.
Sounds like it might be good.
Yeah, because the week after this one is our top and bottom 10.
So, Brian, we'll be joining us for that one.
All right, all right.
So, Brian, until Lahore returns again.
Good night and Merry Christmas.
Oh, ho, ho.
And a happy new year.
That'll stay soon.
Thank you.
