The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #448: Silent Night, Deadly Night Part 2 (1987) & Silent Night, Deadly Night 3: Better Watch Out! (1989)

Episode Date: December 27, 2024

We continue the Christmas spirit with 2 classics. Cool of the week includes Tulsa King, What We Do in the Shadows, and Christmas Vacation. Trailer is Death of a Unicorn. The podcast spotlight shines o...n Horrors Yet Unseen. And we get feedback from Steven Lowblad, Paul Ragsdale, Bede Jermyn, Nabeel Yasin Amin, Tracey Harrison, Marky Best, David Barta, Juha Salonen, Jason Wellsengarry, Shelby Edmunds, Deva Rodgers, Adam Lewis, Billy Snickers, Jimmy Crosbee, and Steve Carleton. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yes, hi, it's Bill Mosley, and you're listening to The Horror Returns. Goodbye. Greetings, victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome, you have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everybody, to The Horror Returns. Christmas edition, courtesy of our scheduling guru, Brian. Yeah. You got a couple of Christmas gems for you to unwrap this week. So I'm last with me as always, my co-hosts, Philip and Brian. What's going on, guys?
Starting point is 00:01:21 Nothing much tired of shit, ready for the holidays to be over. Oh, my God, dude. I'm ready to be in the middle of it, so I'll have to go to work, man. There is that. There is that. Are you just off one day, Phil, or what? Yeah. And then like in the next couple of weekends, I'll be driving all over the state.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Okay. Got some like remote jobs and stuff like that? No, like visiting family and junk. We got a. Oh, boy. The Cowboys game to go to. Yeah. After New Year's.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Is that the one on Netflix tomorrow? No, that's a Texans. Texans. I mean, Texans and Ravens is on Netflix, I think. Yeah. And then the Chiefs game is on Netflix also, I think, Brian. Oh, then maybe I was looking at the wrong thing. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:02:11 But I know Texans and Ravens are playing on Christmas. Yeah. Maybe they're on Amazon. Netflix has a two for tomorrow. Oh, okay. So, first time ever. I guess Netflix, hopefully it won't be as shitty as the picture during that fight where it kept freezing. I know.
Starting point is 00:02:29 The next test. Yeah. Well, mine was clear for the fights up until. up until Tyson walked out. That's the only time it lagged on me. Oh, mine was fucking all up from like the first fight. And we've got... Mine was too.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Pretty decent internet-ish. I mean, I pay for it at least. Yeah, I'm trying a new internet service today. I signed up with AT&T. They've got this new thing called Air, which so far it seems to be a little bit faster than what I had. They can't do fiber optic here because the
Starting point is 00:03:09 quality of the sand that all the houses are built on, so they can't I guess tunnel, we're too close to the beach. It sounds like some bullshit. It kind of does, doesn't it? Yeah, we don't have fiber. At least you get
Starting point is 00:03:25 free max, don't you? With AT&T. How come I'm paying $152 a year for it then? Fuck am I missing out on here. Never mind. I didn't know about this That may be their wireless thing or something
Starting point is 00:03:42 I don't know We got that too so I could look into that Oh man All right guys No buy humbug here What's your cool of the week Brian I don't have a cool of the week I got a not cool of the week
Starting point is 00:03:59 Oh Let's have it I don't know why I'll have two I'll have two then Okay I don't know why I watched it I wasn't interested in watching it. I haven't even seen all the Venom movies. Hated Madam Webb.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Oh, no. Hated Morbius. So I watched Craven the Hunter. I had high hopes for that one, man. I heard it sucks. Well, any high hopes you had just completely get destroyed within the first 20 minutes. This movie was bad. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:04:35 The acting was not good. some of the people look like I don't know maybe I was just I've been tired for the past week maybe I was just sleepy or something but some of the faces look like they were AI generated it looks so CG like there was a scene where Cravens played by Aaron Taylor Johnson sure and he's talking to this character who's his brother
Starting point is 00:05:02 and for a second there it looked like his brother's face was like CGI because it didn't look like he was speaking the words he was speaking you know what they probably did is like they changed the line of dialogue or something and they went in and tried to AI that makes sense
Starting point is 00:05:21 I think it was I think it was the scene where they were where they were speaking Russian like it looked like their mouths didn't match the words they were saying and they introduced Rhino and I didn't care
Starting point is 00:05:37 about that. Was it Paul Giamatti? No. This guy actually, he turns in, his skin turns hard like a rhino. It was not a robotic suit. Hard like rhino. It was just not good.
Starting point is 00:05:56 They made Craven not a villain. He's a good guy. It's got to be the anti-hero, right? They introduced Calypso in the comic she was a villain, not a villain in this movie huh they keep doing that well from what I understand Sony has
Starting point is 00:06:17 thrown in the towel they said no more these Spider-Men spider-man Spider-less villain movies they're this I guess they're done which should have thrown in the towel a long time ago and yeah this should have
Starting point is 00:06:32 I'm sorry for anybody that went to the theater to watch this oh wow to the shit I went to the theater at all. Ouch. That bad? Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:06:44 You know, I didn't hate the trailer. They put all the good shit in the trailer. Yeah. The story is so boring, Phil. It's like when you, because it's rated R. So when you get to the, to the action scene, there's blood and stuff. But when you get to it, you just don't care.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Oh, boy. Fun. So you might hear this movie again in a couple weeks on a list. Oh, yeah, I'm going to have to catch up on some movies. Never too late. If I had to throw in a cool week, I did finish season two of Tulsa King. Nice. Fantastic show.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I forgot about that, man. I watched the first couple of episodes and then forgot about it. I might have to go back and watch it. Frank Rillo with his cowboy hat and doing a New York slash Kansas City. my boss thing he's got going on. All right. It's fun. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah. Why not? But I do predict there, we're, I see we're going to lose some characters in season three. I just think they're just kind of setting us up to love certain characters that they're going to just pull the rug from underneath us on. So you think that'll be it, Brian? Just like three seasons and done, you think? Taylor Sheridan writing it I think it can go as long as they want it to go
Starting point is 00:08:12 and Stallone is fucking fantastic as this mom, this man Freddy I just said the character the supporting cast is just amazing they can go as long as they want but Stallone is
Starting point is 00:08:25 almost 80 so Not a spring chicken, huh? No Still in good shape too Yeah better than I've ever been in my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:37 No, no doubt. Same here. Same here. But that's all I got. All right. Tulsa King, man. I'm writing it down. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:47 All right. What do I got? A couple of Christmas movies this week, actually. Of course. Yeah, some classics. Did a Christmas story. Hadn't watched that one in a while. So that was fun.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Okay. For Gile. It must be Italian. And Christmas vacation. I forgot how many people were in that movie. It was like one of the guys from the Big Bang theory is Russ. That's right. Johnny Gilecki.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah. Johnny Gilecki. Because they switched him out somewhere in the series, didn't they? They did a great thing in the reboot where they looking through the family out. Because the kids have been different in every vacation movie. So every family picture was like different set of kids. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Yeah, good call back there. And the, and, uh, let's see, his wife's mom was, uh, the mom from everybody loves Raymond. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Julia Lewis was the sister. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of fun, man. I like going back and watching the classics. The squirrel in the tree. The cat, the cat, the wire. Yeah. Clark got in the attic.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Jelly of the Month Club. Jelly of the Month Club. The guy keeps on giving all year round. This is the dude walking through the attic. I'm like, what are you doing? That's the opposite way you're supposed to do this. Yeah, you would know, dude. I was in an attic yesterday.
Starting point is 00:10:28 But yeah, that's all I got. So Christmas vacation. Mm-hmm. All right. Putting it down. So, yeah, really, I don't, I don't know why, well, I posted it. Nez put a smiling face, Brian, for carry-on. Maybe it's because he works in an airport and he knows how far-fetched that movie was.
Starting point is 00:10:49 But he always did watch Carry-on also. He told me, listen to the next E-Society. I can't wait. He has some things to say about that movie regarding an airport and how it works. Yeah, little far-fetched, but it was fun. It was good fun, like an old James Bond movie. It was fun. I liked it a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I'm a big Jason Bateman fan. I know he plays the same character in every movie, but I like he's a... And he did say buddy. He did say buddy, Brian. Yeah, he did. Let me tell you how this is going to work. You just do nothing, okay? I really like Taryn Edgerton.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I don't think we've seen him enough since Kingsman. I know he did that. movie about that skier and then he did the Tetris movie but Eddie the Eagle oh yeah and he did the Elton John movie yeah I thought oh that's right that's right that's right he was finding all those I just don't think I don't know who the fuck his agent is yeah I figured he'd be a scanner shot for sure by now he did the Kingsman and then he was all in these rumors about all these different superheroes and then
Starting point is 00:12:03 just haven't really seen him in much. Yeah, he'd be perfect in a superhero movie. Kind of surprising, huh? Yeah. And they had a pretty hot girlfriend in this one, too. Yeah. That never hurts. No.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Okay, yeah, so that was fun, but I'm going to definitely give credit where credit is due. My cool of the week is the final season of what we do in the shadows. Oh, it's over? It's over, man. A TV show I never thought we needed, and I was like super skeptical about. And they didn't have a single episode that wasn't like spot on perfect. So they like they really expanded the universe a lot.
Starting point is 00:12:45 They've got like a Frankenstein's monster in this one. They've still got the swear wolves. They've got zombies. They've got like a great episode, which is like the Warriors, where it's all these different groups of vampires that are chasing them down through New York City. so dressed as baseball players dressed as baristas it's just amazing
Starting point is 00:13:07 that's funny gotta love it man gotta love it and they kept that same crew together and yeah it was sad to see it sad to see it go but they did not allow it to jump the shark so you got to respect that right six seasons is a good run
Starting point is 00:13:22 yeah yeah I think I've only seen the first season I'm going to go back and watch it got to catch up it's what I can see myself watching you know again for sure a couple of times probably because there's stuff that you know I kind of like forgot I'm like because all the characters kind of grow
Starting point is 00:13:39 but then at the end they're like exactly the same characters that were in the first season and that's hard to do they pulled it off so cool of the week what we do in the shadows season six Brian got any headlines man
Starting point is 00:13:54 let's see mostly release dates uh Paul Fee his movie The House Maid starring Sidney gets a December 25th, 2025 release date. I like the sound of that.
Starting point is 00:14:10 The housemaid. From what I understand, it is based off of a popular book. Okay. Maybe put that on the list for next year, Lance. Maybe, yeah. If Sidney Swiny pops up out of the book,
Starting point is 00:14:27 it's definitely on the list. That'd be a hell of pop-up book. Let's see. Psychological horror thriller Victorian Psycho starring Margaret Qualley gets picked up by A24. I'm not sure what to think about that. That's a weird title.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Victorian Psycho? Victorian Psycho. Is that what you said? Like Jack the Ripper? Yeah, could be. Okay. Listen to Huey Lewis in the news or what? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:15:00 The Weekend. the singer is doing a horror movie called Hurry Up, which also stars Jenna Ortega. This comes out May 16, 2025. When you say he's doing it, he's like starring in it or he's... Yes, starring. Okay. All right, I'm okay with that.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I think it has to do with his recent albums he's doing. I guess it was supposed to be like a trilogy of albums and this is supposed to be a lead-up to the third one. Oh. Okay. Well, look, it makes sense. It does make sense because the weekend, I know that he was like in charge of one of the haunts at horror nights at Universal
Starting point is 00:15:41 the year before last. So I saw some videos. I guess he's really into horror. Oh, that's cool. You can tell about some of his videos that he throws a little horror-esque stuff in there. Yeah. Well, he's obviously very performative. So I imagine he's got some acting chaps.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Lance You did not like the coffee table I Wasn't way He didn't hate it But yeah I didn't hate it I just expected more I guess It was oversold to me
Starting point is 00:16:15 It is getting a Turkish remake from the director who did the movie You ever seen the movie Baskin About the cops that are basically going to hell No but I kind of want to see it Maybe David Barton will finally recommend some movies. Yeah, David, that's, we haven't, we haven't did Baskin.
Starting point is 00:16:36 He got his t-shirt. Cool. Baskin can go on the list. We haven't done that one. That's a pretty good one. All right, cool. Let's do it. Let's just say David picked it.
Starting point is 00:16:45 The director, Ken Everall, is doing, he's, I believe, a Turkish director. He's doing a remake of the coffee table. Every time I hear Turkish, I just think of Turkish. delight. Like that horrible candy. It's like Nuget and. Oh. If the movie... Or snatch.
Starting point is 00:17:07 He does the movie anything like he did Baskin. The movie should be probably a little bit more fucked up than it was. Okay. Some good guns at a turkey. Canick. Great grand. Got to say. Nice. Let's see. Brian Bertino's Vicious starring Dakota Fanning has been
Starting point is 00:17:27 removed from its February release. state. So it's probably not a good thing for the movie. Okay. Are they just pushing it back? I think it was supposed to come out during the summer, then it got bumped
Starting point is 00:17:43 all the way up to February, and then it just got completely removed. Oh, well, that's not good. So I see possible streaming coming up. I hope it doesn't get the Batgirl treatment. I know. It just disappears. They're like the Roger Corman
Starting point is 00:17:59 fantastic for her please somebody still explain how you spend like 60 million dollars shelve a movie for tax purposes and then you you save money oh man the the department of movie making efficiency yeah dome needs to come after that one and i think oh probably the biggest news is uh lee cronin director of evil did rise finally announced his next movie and he is doing his version of the mummy. Okay. Like classic mummy or Brennan Fraser Mummy? I think he quoted this is going to be a little bit more gritty, a little bit more...
Starting point is 00:18:47 Nice. Okay. Gritty, violent from... I don't know, he used words like deep from the earth, stuff like that. All right. But I've liked all his movies. so far. And especially, I think we all like evil dead rise.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm for it. Well, and the mommy character is pretty cool. I like that ancient Egyptian stuff. And Phil James Wan is producing. Oh, well, that's a tick mark on the downside. And I think we'll leave off of news
Starting point is 00:19:23 with Damien Leonie. Or Leon. Yes. We know I'm from Terror Fire, directed all three movies. wants to direct a Friday to 13th movie. Okay. He wants to make it bloodier, gorier than any Friday of 13th movie has ever been. That's a tall order.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I mean, that'd be great, but okay. Do you guys think if they ever get these movie rights sorted out that they would give it to him? Yes. It'd be a great, great pick, right? Yeah, I mean, I'm not, I've been disappointed. But if they get the movie right sorted out, I think it's going to be big enough where they could probably hand it off to somebody like high production value stuff. Yeah, that's why I ask the question because that's a big franchise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:20 So would they go bigger name director or would they give it to somebody that? No, no, no, I don't think they wouldn't. here's why because Marvel, for example, has taken chances on a lot of directors that have done like, you know, smaller budget stuff and horror movies and stuff like that that haven't been like super high profile and they've just given them the money and they've done great shit with it. So give them a chance. I think he deserves it. Yeah. And he really wants to do it. He sounds like he's a fan of the franchise and I think it's always good when directors are fans of the project. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. Just asked the last couple of Star Wars people, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:02 No kidding. Never seen an episode or a movie, but, you know. Oh, one more thing. 28 years later, the Bone Temple, which is the sequel to next year's 28 years later, because they're making a trilogy. They're filming these back-to-back. Oh. This one's directed by Naya da Costa, who did The New Candy Man.
Starting point is 00:21:28 this movie gets a January 16, 2026 release date. So we have to wait less than a year after. She's a good director for that because these aren't exactly feel-good movies, right? Yeah. I think that makes sense. And I think one of the producers said that is not Sillian Murphy in the trailer as one of the zombies. Oh, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:52 That would be a twist. But they said he is in the movie some way. they just like a gray wig and a beard or what they just left it at that he is in the he is in a movie some way somehow but they didn't say who how where that's a weird and cryptic thing to say about silly and murphy like the guy but it's not like you
Starting point is 00:22:15 you know for all we know it could be like archive footage from the original movie that they show and then they'd be like see he's in a movie yeah i guess yeah i guess cop out All right, that's the news. All right, Philip, you ready to go on down to trailer park? Let's go. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Brian is, as always, is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. And I think that fits the bill tonight, Brian. What do you think? Yep, because we are going to A24 for our only trailer this week, and it is Death of a Unicorn starring Paul Rudd and Jenna Ortega. a lot of other recognizable faces. This is directed and written by Alex Schwartman. I believe this is the first
Starting point is 00:23:05 directorial movie he's doing. Hmm. Okay. Yeah, but I think he's worked in Hollywood a lot. Like, then, like, production and special effects. Yeah, I looked up, he's done, worked on a lot of movies with production, like The Witch and Resurrection, Rebecca Hall, and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I was going to say, for a first-time director, he's got some big names in this movie. No doubt. Yeah. I'd be the next Ariostr. Maybe. It's definitely weird, but it looks pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I mean, I love Paul Rudd. Jenna Ritega is great. Just in the trailer alone, that one kid from God damn it, I can't remember the name of that movie with Jennifer Aniston. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Will Poulter? Yes. With the forehead and the eyebrows? Yeah, him. Like, he's got some one-liners just in the trailer that are pretty amazing. Sure. Yeah, I can't believe he's going through that situation in swim trunks. I know.
Starting point is 00:24:17 That was funny. I'll give this one a shot for sure. It's definitely out there, though. Lance I'm totally on board this has all the makings of a top 10 movie of the year for me so I'm probably going to be disappointed because I like going
Starting point is 00:24:35 and expecting too much and Hugh Grant for God's sake coming out of here to do Grant that wasn't he Grant that was Richard E. Grant oh it was his brother yeah okay
Starting point is 00:24:47 you can tell this Richard E. Grant because he's very like animated and or animated made it. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, I'm all in.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Either way. Give me either Grant. Give me an oopalupa. Whatever. I'm all in. Looks fun. If you want to see a wacky, Richard E. Grant character,
Starting point is 00:25:07 watch, what's the one with Bruce Willis? Where he's the Hudson Hawk, where he's the cat. Oh, God. That's going way back. Yeah. That movie had a long time.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Richard E. Grant is the fucking villain, and he is like over the top of everything in that movie. Have you ever seen a child? Chinese phone book, there's a lot of long numbers. Where did that come out? Oh, that hadn't been like early. Yeah, I would say like 92, 93.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Oh, man. Wow. I've never seen it when it came out. I don't remember the movie at all. It's been a while, been a while. But, you know, Bruce Willis was huge then. Oh, yeah. Death of a unicorn. Does not have a set release date,
Starting point is 00:25:54 but is expected in 2025. It's still in post-production. Seems like a weird movie for A-24. It's hard for me to say that anymore, though, Philip, because they're doing everything. They did Marcelle and the Shell with Snail or Marshall the Snail or what? I think this is going to be. Like the gloves are off at A-24.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I think this is going to be next year's I saw the TV glow. Okay. Okay. Just kind of a weird, wacky. off-the-wall movie that just kind of came out of nowhere. Because I heard about this movie a while ago that they were making it about a unicorn, and I was just like, sounds like one of those movies that they announced that just never gets made. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Right. Like a unicorn. The premise of it makes me go, what are we doing? I know, I know. But they've got the people to pull it off. Agreed. All right. That's our only trailer this week.
Starting point is 00:26:53 All right, on to listener feedback. This week we shine the podcast spotlight on horrors yet unseen. The podcast where we assign each other horror movies to watch and then talk about it here. So our spouses don't have to listen to us go on and on about scary stuff they don't like. There will be spoilers. I know, that's awesome. Great idea for a podcast. Kind of what we do, really?
Starting point is 00:27:21 Pretty much, yeah. Stephen Loblad posted in the group Good Friday, boys, with his horror returns Coozy. Nice. Brian has never seen. I've seen pictures. It's on this way, Brian.
Starting point is 00:27:38 It takes a long time to get to Alaska. I know. You got to send it with those ice road truckers. Put down a New Jersey drone, Philip. There you go. I talked about earlier. Give it to the aliens, man. There you go.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Let's see. Indiana Jones and the Great Circle. Stephen also posted, I definitely agree with Steve Carlton, is a great game. I picked this up a couple of weeks ago and absolutely love it. This is probably the movie we should have gotten instead of Dial of Destiny. Okay. Yeah, I would agree.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Because I've seen the original trilogy countless times. Yeah. Yeah. I've only seen the last two movies. I've seen Crystal Skull twice once in theaters and once it came out. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Brian. And I've seen Dial of Destiny once.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Was Diala Destiny worse than Crystal Skull? Yes. I figured it would be. I haven't even watched that one. Crystal Skull could be. Yeah. Thick of Destiny is a classic movie. That one's great.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Crystal Skull is, like so bad it's good levels of what they tried to do in the movie because they seriously thought they were doing something great in that movie. I like the storyline of the whole Crystal Skull thing, even though like in reality most of them are fake
Starting point is 00:29:07 but the real Crystal Skulls it's a fun lore you know, before I knew that they were all fake. What's this? Shia LeBoof as much. Worst fucking character in the franchise.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Ouch. Didn't they kill him off finally? Spoilers. Oh. Well. That's okay. I think you're okay to spoil shit movies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:37 All right. I got to play the game, though. Now I really want to get it. Yeah. It's on Game Pass. Game Pass is like 20 bucks a month. Yeah. Everything's on Game Pass.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I was going to say, I think we might have Game Pass. And it's not like Logan ever uses his damn Xbox. He's always on the computer. I'll just move that motherfucker in the living room. There you go. With my old NES, I've got restored. I think I might jump on it this week. I think I pay for Game Pass and I never use it.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah. That's the worst. Well, I think that's kind of what they're banking on. Yeah. Yeah. Like a gym membership. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Paul Ragsdale says, I'm very happy people are still discovering murder size to this day. Oh, boy. That's a fun boob-filled movie. Huh. I don't know that I've never seen it.
Starting point is 00:30:35 It's a film crew filming one of those like exercise. You remember in the 80s those exercise shows? Aerobics or whatever. Jane Fond and shit. Yeah. They're like filming that and like somebody's killing
Starting point is 00:30:50 people on set one by one. That's kind of funny. I like it. And one of the actresses, Jessa Flux, who I believe is in our Facebook group, is in the movie, and she has a great scene, and she's very talented, if you know what I mean. All right. Nice. But Paul Ragsdale is the director, and he's also in our Facebook group. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Oh, I had no idea. All right. Shout out to Paul. Thanks for listening. He is currently about to release his new movie with, I believe, a lot of the same cast from Murder Size, called Only Fangs, a vampire movie. We got to cover that one, Brian. I love him this guy. We might do a double feature, Murder Size and Only Fangs.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Oh, man. Oh, we should do that. We did get a trailer, guys. I'll forward it to y'all. Okay. And B. Germain says, Hey, everyone, it's finally arrived. Mine and my friend Sam Inglis's new podcast,
Starting point is 00:32:00 Beed and Sam versus the Video Nasty's, is now online at all podcast streaming platforms via the podcast feed for the main show. Congratulations. Bees got him like a series of these Beed verses. No shit. I know. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:32:17 The Beativerse. The Beativerse. Yeah. I like it. Let's see. for the substance, which I still haven't seen. I need to watch before the years over. You got a few days left, Bill.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Assume it's going to make a list. Nebel Yassine Amin says, Nabil, my bad. Back to the practical effects, which is 100% more effective, especially in horror movies than the stupid CGI effects. I 100% agree. Tracy Harrison says,
Starting point is 00:32:52 saw this last night, brilliantly acted, my kind of movie. Had it all. There you go. I haven't heard much bad about it. I know, I haven't either. I've seen some recent comments. I don't even know what it's about. Lance, when it gets... When it gets to the end, people felt like it kind of went off the
Starting point is 00:33:10 rails a little bit. Yeah, but I think on a rewatch, it might make more sense. I don't know. It felt like one of those endings. Like it was jarring. Off the rails could be a good thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Yeah, I think you'd like it, Phil. Okay. I think it worked with the movie, with what they were trying to say. Marky Best. Watched Terror Fire 3 last week for the first time and absolutely loved it. I think it's my new favorite Christmas movie. That shower scene was just like, wow.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I was like, holy fucking shitballs. The whole movie kicks ass, though. From start to finish, I loved every second of it. Can't wait to see the fourth one. Nice. That one's gotten some mixed reviews, though. I loved it. Yeah, I think that guy's back again crying about the kids getting killed. I think he made a third comment. We got to block them from Facebook.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I'm like, I understand you don't like it, but quit commenting the same thing on different posts. I know. It's like a social justice warrior. He's passionate about his opinion. that's fine. Yes. Jesus, we get it. It's just a movie. Yeah, that's what several people told them.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I think you really killed a kid. Everybody keeps telling them, happen off screen. They didn't show anything. It's just a movie. Get over it. I think it's the same people that keep seeing his comment.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yeah, they're having the same argument. Makes sense. Let's see. For the grimly, fan poster David Barta says now that's cool. Grimlins. I tried to watch that one. Nobody wanted to watch it with me today. Oh. And The Haunting of Hill House.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Juha Salonan says one of the greatest shows ever seen it five times. Oh yeah, dude, the show was pretty great. I immediately thought the movie when I read that and I was like, what? Yes. Okay. he's all right yeah or flanagan magic right that was the first one wasn't it the yeah yeah he's done nothing but impressed me since well i don't think any of us finished that young adult one he did that one i couldn't stick with yeah that's true
Starting point is 00:35:42 that one the descendants or what was it called brian i don't know that's how much i didn't care about it I don't remember the name. All right. Let's see. For American Psycho, Jason Wellings-Garries says, another movie that does not need a remake. Can they not come up with original ideas anymore so they have to do hack jobs on classics? Uh-oh. It may be good.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yes. Oh, and I reported it wrong. It is not a remake. It is no retelling of the... They're going more. more off the book and I understand there was a lot of differences in the book. So it's not a remake of the original film. Okay, it's a remake off the original original.
Starting point is 00:36:32 It's a, yeah, it's going off the source material. So of course, there probably will be like some of the same scenes. References to the original movie because the movie also went off some of the book, but I reported it wrong. It's not a remake. Okay. Okay. Okay, well, that may change things for me. I think I'm more okay with that because I was kind of where Jason was.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I was like, man, really? American Psycho was great. Why don't mess with it. But yeah, if it's off the book, I'll watch that. And I think Austin Butler is a good choice. Elvis, huh? Elvis, and then he played the villain in Dune Part 2.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Right. Oh, okay. Yeah, Sting's character, wasn't it? Yeah, so Fade. Mashed Elvis and Fade into one character. All right. Patrick Baveman. I'll take that.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Shelby Edmund says, I'm very hesitant on this new one. I love the book and the movie, and the musical adaptation was all right. There's a what? But nothing can beat our Christian Bale's performance. I think that's the problem. Christian Bale did such a
Starting point is 00:37:53 killer job on that movie that it's hard to imagine anybody else doing it. Yeah. I mean, I've always said it like, I don't care, remake anything. It doesn't change how good the original one is. Yeah. Because I know when people like, oh, you ruined the original movie.
Starting point is 00:38:10 No, it doesn't change the original movie. It's still the same original movie. Well, one would argue one would argue the new Exorcist movie made the original look even better. Yeah. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I guess that's probably true. And we got a lot of shitty Exorcist movies that will probably lead us to a good one because Mike Flanagan, who we just talked about, is doing the new one. Yeah. He's not going off. He's playing with fire.
Starting point is 00:38:38 He's not going. He said he's not doing a continuation. He's doing his own. I'm Mike Flanagan, dude, totally. I'll watch that. Yeah, I don't know. The shitty movies just hurt the brand a little bit. I think, but there's just some certain directors that I'm just like, I'm going to give it a chance.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Just like, we didn't talk about it. We probably could have talked about trailers, but the new Superman trailer. I thought it looked fantastic and James Gunn's doing it. But a lot of people are like, it's too, it's too colorful, it's too this, it's too bad. Why is this dog in the movie? I'm like, Crypto, the dog has been around since 50s. that's right and this stuff is based off
Starting point is 00:39:24 comic books are colorful yeah well and that's that's the other thing though that's one that's based more off the source material than the movie and these these are the people that are mad because their original you know Christopher Reeve Superman is not in it yeah they're like I saw one comment
Starting point is 00:39:40 it was like the Superman it looked too colorful it looked too goofy why is Nathan Philly and got a bowl cut that version of green Green Lantern had a bowl cut in the comic books. And that version of the Greenlander
Starting point is 00:39:56 is going to be a fucking asshole in the movie. I think they picked a good actor to do it. I don't know. It's James Gunn. James Gunn doesn't have done wrong by me, so. That's what I'm saying. He's like, even through the shit sludge
Starting point is 00:40:11 that's been the last few Marvel movies, James Gunn has still been going pretty strong. All the Guardians movies are great. We'll see. Consistent. Yeah, consistent. Let's see. Santa Slay. Deva Rogers says, not bad. Goldberg.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Oh, that one, yeah. That was fun. That's a good one, man. Yeah. See him returning 2025 for his, with the same final retirement match. How old is he? I think he's in the 60s.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Jesus Christ, man. It's going to break a hip. He's wrestled. the past couple years. That's crazy. He had that match where he almost killed the Undertaker. Legit. Almost killed him.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Who's also almost 60. No wonder he almost died. If he got older. Yeah. Yeah. Because he, uh, concussed himself in the ring. Oh, God. Wanted to continue with the match and decided to suplex the undertaker and
Starting point is 00:41:16 dropped him right on the back of his neck. Oh. Dude. Even guys like that, you can't do the same stuff that you did when you were in your 30s, man. Yeah. It's fun to fantasize that you can do. I know. Reality can.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I mean, he's still. Look at professional football. Yeah. True. Let's see. In regards to Tusk, Matthew Paraguay says, weird movie. Imagine all that being done to a person in real life. But yeah, yeah, the ending was a bit sad.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah. What did you expect? Just in a long look happy. Did he? They just kept feeding him fish, going fish at him. Yeah, you look happy. Somebody was coming to visit him, beating him. That's true.
Starting point is 00:42:08 It was a bit sad. I like that movie. That one has a special place in my heart. Wolfman. Adam Lewis says hope it's as good as full moon fever. The Tom Petty? I don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:25 As I'm not sure what full moon fever is. That's the only full moon fever I know. That's what came to my head. But I think it looks pretty good. I like that they haven't actually like shown the wolf in the trailers. I think this movie's going to be. Go ahead. No, that's a good move.
Starting point is 00:42:43 What do you think, Brian? You anticipate good things? I think this movie's going to be decisive. Oh, great. I think there's going to be people like, that's not a werewolf. Night swim. Night swim part deal, huh?
Starting point is 00:42:57 You think they're going to have a weird werewolf? I think it's going to be something more realistic. Yeah. Then the guy getting bit by wolf and changing. I think it's going to be more of a
Starting point is 00:43:13 virus. Yeah. That makes them look wolf-like, but not actually be a wolf. But his, yeah, his bones are not all fucking changing and shit probably. I don't know. I like the trailer.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. I think it's going to be good. Yeah. Let's see. In regards to the fly, fan art poster. David Barta says,
Starting point is 00:43:39 I love this. Definitely have people scratching their heads afterwards as it seems to me to convey something much lighter and brighter than the actual film. Yeah. The fly is pretty dark. Yeah. You see this poster. you'll, and you've never seen a movie, and you're like, oh, this looks like a fun movie.
Starting point is 00:43:58 It is fun, but not the way the poster makes it seem like. Yeah, it's terrifying. I love that movie. I even like the 50s one. That was pretty good. Yeah. Help me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:14 The Strangers, Chapter 1. Billy Snickers says, this movie is absolute fucking garbage. All right. I really feel like if these next two movies go the way I think they're going to go to. I think people are going to go back to this first one and just go to be like, okay, I see what they were trying to do here. I'm with you, dude. I have faith, too, yeah. I think he took the original idea, and he's, I have faith in Rennie Harlan.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I think he took the original idea, and he's going to expand on it the way it should have been done. But we'll see. Because that trailer for that second one, it just gave me no feels of that original movie. it's like we're expanding the story so and we get Richard break back that's the important I don't think it's I don't think we're going to look back and think the Strangest Chapter 1 was good but we're going to be like okay I understand I get it yeah I hope so or we could just be justifying a movie that we're like well there's no way that he did this without some kind of plan because you can't be that bad I just
Starting point is 00:45:22 Guys, I just want movies to be good. I know. Let's see. In regards to crampus, Jimmy Crosby says, love this movie, watch it every year. I walked in the living room yesterday,
Starting point is 00:45:36 and my daughter was watching this movie. I was like, I was great. I sat down and watched it with her. Nice. And that's it for listener feedback. Our show intro and new logos come from Steve Carlton from the Geeks.
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Starting point is 00:46:23 who has us watching of all things what movie next month Brian Pink Flamingos and I have to admit I've never seen it I've heard so much about it So this I don't know you haven't either This will be a first watch for all three of us Yep first watch Pink Flamingos
Starting point is 00:46:43 Feel like Matt's setting us up for something Here we go That'll be fun But yeah man help us out We can get the production quality up on this show, guys. Oh, Lance, we have another commentary, I think. I'm going to
Starting point is 00:46:58 try to schedule for soon. For Lars? Yeah. He wants us to do Mad God, which is like the play nation. I always kind of wanted to watch it. I never have. And he says
Starting point is 00:47:14 he's going to try to be on with us this time. He's always had the best commentaries. Remember, he had Cemetery Man for us and he had El Dia de la Bestia. Oh yeah. That was a great movie. All right. On to featured attractions.
Starting point is 00:47:31 We will wish you Merry Christmas with Silent Night Deadly Nights, Part 2 and 3. Silent Night Deadly Night 2 from 1987. It's the terrorizing sequel to the film that shocked a nation by breaking all the rules. It's silent night, deadly night. Part 2, Santa's back,
Starting point is 00:47:56 and he's mighty miffed at the naughty nun who drove his demented brother on a murderous rampage that made headlines across the country. Now, step by step, weapon by weapon, victim by victim, Santa's going to finish what his brother started. So you better watch out, you better not pout, because Santa Claus is coming to your town, and he knows who's been naughty and who's been nice. Hold on tight for the sequel that'll chill you through your very soul.
Starting point is 00:48:24 The now adult Ricky talks to a psychiatrist about how he became a murderer after his brother Billy died, which leads back to Mother Superior. Director is Lee Harry, also known for Women and the Pill and the Way It Works. All right. Sounds like a health-class documentary. Writers are Lee Harry and Joseph Earl. Daryl Gilbo, who plays a 15-year-old Ricky in a brief scene with actually 24 at the time. No surprise there. Eric Freeman frequently received conflicting direction from director Lee, Harry, and co-writer Joseph Earl during filming.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Freeman had wanted to play Ricky more as a cold and malevolent killer, but Harry envisioned Ricky is more of a wise cracking killer along the lines of Freddie Kruger. While Earl encouraged Freeman to be as over the top as possible in his acting. Well, that shows. All right, Lance, you want to start us off on this one? These are going to be very, very difficult to review. these movies are both in my opinion these movies are both firmly
Starting point is 00:49:51 under the so bad it's good like moniker like totally so this this movie bored the fuck out of me the first 45 minutes right because it was literally scene for scene retreads from the first movie right it just
Starting point is 00:50:06 you don't need to re-watch the first one just put in the second one yeah you literally had every kill in it Linnea quickly nude I don't remember what happened in the first one. Yeah. So, and that was kind of weird, and I thought, oh, man, this is going to be horrible.
Starting point is 00:50:22 But then when you get this new guy playing Ricky that's just like, yay! Like just an evil frat boy, right? Like this, you know, fucking, uh, never mind. Those fucking eyebrows, dude. Yeah. They were going crazy. I can't even do it. The kills were great.
Starting point is 00:50:44 You know, it was a lot of. fun, the maniacal cackling. I don't know. I think he definitely listened more to the co-writer, because he was definitely more of the wisecracking, Freddie Krueger. And then who could forget that immortal line that I'll wait, like one of you guys say,
Starting point is 00:50:59 that's become a meme for the ages, but... Garbage Day. Ah, man, I got a stew. I got a stew and listen to you guys before I can come up with my score on this one. It's really that tough. Yeah, I was kind of thinking the same thing. I got a pest up a time. Brian, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:51:21 I love this movie. I agree. We didn't need a 40-minute recap of the original movie. I mean, well, maybe Phil did because he didn't remember the original one. But once we get to adult version of, was it Ricky? Sure. Or Billy? No, Rick, I think Billy was the brother.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, this is like, he completely goes over the top, and I love it just the way he's talking about everything. I know, it's like he's totally diametric, like, opposed in some scenes. I know. Like, he comes out on the motorcycle and he's looking all badass, but like the scene before, he was like a super nice funny guy. Right, right? I love he has all these memories of stuff he's never seen. Yeah. I didn't even catch that, dude.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Of course, he has a memory of his parents getting killed, even though he was a baby. A six-month-old baby? Well, but he said that, you know, Billy told him what happened, and so he was retelling the story. So I can deal with that. Okay, I'll give him that. But how about the memory of the police going into the wrong house chasing the wrong Santa? yeah that's good point maybe he watched the movie
Starting point is 00:52:51 they thought they got me didn't they that garbage day thing was totally out of left field that was amazing oh that that's the whole start to that scene is hilarious because he murders the the ex-boyfriend I don't even know if he was even to her ex-boyfriend just some guy she was fucking with yeah right he straight murders him with jumper
Starting point is 00:53:13 cables in front of her and then she was like i hate him you killed him and then he's all like naughty and then she's like uh-oh she knew she was in trouble those graphics the graphics of the electricity from the jumper cables was so fucking late 80s right yeah you get you get bad effects like that but then you get an awesome car stunt scene because when that car when he shoots that car and it goes up on two wheels It dodges that stunt man by inches. I know. He was standing right there. Yeah, and then it just fucking explodes.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And no CG out of fire. It was all real. Yeah. Just the way it dodged him. I was like, I know they didn't pay you enough for this movie to do that stunt. That could have gone real wrong real quick. No doubt. But I had a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:54:07 The kills were fun. There's a lot of quotable stuff. I love that he just played the character over the top because he could have just been coming into this movie, like, I'm going to play this character serious, and he didn't do that. And I'm glad that the writer gave him the freedom to do that because I think it just made the movie that more memorable and fun.
Starting point is 00:54:27 So, yeah, fun watch. Yeah, I think I'm going to agree with you on that. Like, had he not been so over the top and fucking weird the whole movie, like, I think it puts, probably would have been just some boring movie that we never talk about. Although I don't know how many people are talking about Silent Night, Deadly Night too. Well, there's a whole bunch of them. The way that he played it was pretty hilarious, and I loved it.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Like, every time he talked, it was like when he was really getting serious, like those eyebrows would start going. And like, I couldn't stop watching it. I was like, how does he even do that? it's a talent it takes talent philip and then by the end of the movie I was like I'd see somebody
Starting point is 00:55:17 and be like naughty oh worse and then of course the worst guy ever in the movie theater yeah oh yeah oh yeah and what a weird what a weird movie theater huh looked like a classroom or something
Starting point is 00:55:32 I was like yeah kill this guy yeah he might have had that coming a little bit just a little But yeah, no, I actually did. It's not a good movie. I got it, for starters. But it is a lot of fun. And it kept my interest, which I guess sort of makes it a good movie.
Starting point is 00:55:54 It's definitely in the so bad it's good territory. Yeah, agreed. All right. Scores, Lance, what do you think? Oh, man. I'll go six. I'll go night swim. Nice.
Starting point is 00:56:08 this one i'll go six six as good as night swim i love it there you go i'd watch this again before i watch night swim again i'd me too 10 like 12 12 times uh brian i'm gonna go a little bit higher seven i had a lot of fun i've rewatched this a lot of times lanch you like you said the the garbage day is like so quotable i always see it on social media at this time of year. Right. And, yeah, a fun movie. Yeah, no, I think I'm going to agree with you.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I think it gets a seven. That's probably not what the score started out as, but after talking to you guys about it, it's a lot of fun, man. I had a good time with this movie, and I'd totally be willing to watch it again. This may go on the watch it every year list. Yeah, why not? Garbage Day. It was funny.
Starting point is 00:57:08 All right. Silent Night, Deadly Night 3, 1989. Enter a world of dreams. Laura, tell me what you saw in your dream. I told you, Dr. Newberry. Santa Claus. A world of silence. Subject may be making contact. I don't want to see the future or the past.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I just want to be normal. A world of madness. No one. The comatose Ricky Caldwell, that's... The comatose Ricky Caldwell reawakens and begins to stalk a blind woman, who he shares a psychic connection with. Yep. That's the plot of the movie. Director is Monty Hellman, also known for Cockfighter and Road to Now Cockfighter. Now, Cockfighter.
Starting point is 00:58:08 What does he mean? I know. I don't know. He directed it. Did he do Cockfighter and then transition to a different genre? I don't know what Cockfighter is. Wack, wah, wah. Riders, Rex Weiner, also known for the adventures of Ford Fair Lane.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Great movie. we get even stephen lowblad on us uh or with uh on with us for that because he's such a motley cree fan and they play a prominent role in that movie oh nice cockfighter and rex weiner can't make this stuff up folks all right uh let's see director uh monnie helman attended a screening of the movie in july 2008 at the alamo draft house in austin uh where he said he thought it was his best work though not his best movie. Explain that? I can understand. Okay. The movie was rushed into production. The original script was discarded and rewritten in one week, starting in March 1989.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Principal photography had finished by the end of April editing was done in May, and the movie was first screened at a film festival in July 1989. All right. I can see what he's saying. he probably had to go up against a lot of script changes, interference, like they said, being rushed, and he got a movie out. Yeah, it's movie. But he agrees it's not his best movie. Brian, what do you think about this one? Again, we get another recap of the first movie for some reason.
Starting point is 01:00:00 because our lead character is some sort of psychic she's blind and is doing experiments and is being hooked up to Ricky who's survived the original one and is comatose and she's got an attitude man she has got an attitude
Starting point is 01:00:22 doesn't she some well with the later with the front desk lady I was like okay you're a little much but then when she meets her rock star boyfriend's her brother's girlfriend
Starting point is 01:00:38 yeah she was a little much that was a great line yeah that was a great line man we got Bill Mosley this time is Ricky who's got some sort of contraption on his head
Starting point is 01:00:52 yeah yeah that's him dead ringer huh for the actor that played Ricky in the second one yeah this movie is not good I did not like any of the characters I hated the lead girl as the final girl
Starting point is 01:01:10 she was annoying they didn't really explain or at least maybe I blacked out but I don't know if they really explain her abilities and what she could do and why the grandma showing up at the end there and yeah I was like what's it your grandma of force ghost now
Starting point is 01:01:28 I mean what's going on I think that was part of the having to write the script and weak thing. Okay. Could be. I didn't like the brother. I felt like he was probably the worst actor in the movie. Oh, reminded me of that guy in Rock and Roll Nightmare with a Star Wars battle. Thor.
Starting point is 01:01:50 John Michael Thor? Uh-huh. The girlfriend was irritating and she's not a nice person. She wanted to take a bath in that tiny tub with her boyfriend. And Granny's tub, huh? And he had to have the faucet side. That's not nice. That's not being thoughtful.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Kills were horrible. And I say this because they were all off screen. For the most part, I guess, yeah. We could have had some cool ones with the gas station worker. but you just hear his death off screened, and you see his head sitting down. I felt like all that was the budgetary reasons why they couldn't show kills.
Starting point is 01:02:39 That was a funny scene, though, you gotta admit, because she's talking dirty to him on the phone and then there at the end his head is just sitting there. She's saying, oh, I'm getting wet in my panties. Yeah, but when they came back and showed the head, it was like a whole scene later, I was like, I don't. necessarily even needed to be there. Editing was fucking atrocious
Starting point is 01:03:03 in this movie, wasn't it? Yeah, the editing was bad. The storytelling now did I hear this trivia, how they had to write the script in a week. Yeah, makes sense. Rewarted, probably many times as they were gone. I understand, because nothing
Starting point is 01:03:19 makes... Nothing makes sense in this movie. It was just a bunch of stuff thrown together. Yeah. And the ending was just fucking ridiculous with him in a suit, Ricky in a suit, saying happy New Year everyone, or whatever the fuck he said. I was just like, what the fuck is happening?
Starting point is 01:03:40 And happy New Year. Yeah, that's going off the rails. Jump the shark, huh? But I do, in my weird sort of way, do appreciate that they did try to continue from the original two movies bringing this Ricky character, because I don't know if you get. guys have seen four and five they have nothing to do with they have nothing they have nothing to do with rickie or billy and they are fucking weird like weird do we at least get ricky bobby in one of them that would have been that would have added to the weirdness but well that's all right at least they
Starting point is 01:04:20 don't have to retell the same story four times we get clint howard yeah oh nice all right But yeah, not a good continuation of the story. All right. Lance, what do you think? I think I might have enjoyed it a little more than Brian did. So I kind of like that beginning scene, like where it showed her. It looked like she was waking up out of the bed in the hospital. But, you know, of course, we find out it was a dream sequence.
Starting point is 01:04:52 But, like, she's going down those hallways, and I got a real weird, like, Don Coscarelli type vibe. Like it was something he might have directed with the white. Yeah, kind of like the white hallways and the like super, you know, like surrealistic, which makes sense because we find that it was a dream sequence. But, you know, then she's got Santa Claus there at the end of the hallway, like going like this. And she's like, help me, Santa. And runs toward him. He's like, come sit on my left, little girl, you know. I thought that was kind of crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Real quick. Was, was her, was she fucking the doctor? He was creepy as fuck. Because she said like some flirtatious stuff. She said some flirtatious stuff. And then and then when she left and he was talking to the nurse and she was like, she's going to come back because she loves it. And she wants it.
Starting point is 01:05:43 She loves it. She wants to eat it up. She wants to slobber all over it. But she had said something like he asked a question. She was like, oh, doctor. Yeah. I was like, what the fuck is happening here? That was.
Starting point is 01:05:58 bizarre, but what about the relationship with her and her fucking brother? Yeah. Kissing and hugging tight and she's like, we're two peas in a pod and you're my other half and that was fucked up too. He helps her with her shirt on, even though she clearly seems independent and can do stuff by herself, but she's dressed. Yeah, so these kind of things kind of made me enjoy the movie a little just because it was so fucking out there, right? And I kind of enjoyed the way it was filmed, at least. And
Starting point is 01:06:33 it's almost like the director tried to have a vision, but like you guys are saying, they changed everything up, like midstream and had to rewrite it and all that. The editing probably got in the way of what the vision could have been. But yeah, I think I enjoyed it more than you did. Brian, I definitely think it was like so bad it's good. Yeah, there weren't a lot of, you know, really good kills and stuff like that. I love the comp. it was like, you know, well, you know, you, you psychic, touchy-feely type or like, you know, let's save their soul. And I'm like, I'm going to stomp on their soul. That's my job, you know.
Starting point is 01:07:09 And that guy was a great, a great character. And for fuck's sake, in the late 80s, we actually got to see a cellular phone in a car in use. And that was like, like, did you see him in the background, isn't it? He's like, banging on it, like, because it's not working. every time I refer people it saves me an extra $100 I was like how fucking much is your bill like old cellular plans that were like by the minute
Starting point is 01:07:37 $20 a minute and shit like that they were not cheap you had to be a rich son of a bitch to have a cell phone back then yeah and he's a cop right so go figure that shit out but again all this shit made me kind of enjoy it Bill Mosley's a national treasure I mean yeah he was like totally underused and he didn't really have a lot of actual lines he just kind of shambled around with that fucking plastic over his brain that was my favorite part of the movie it was like what the fuck are we doing what did you what did you think philip uh i i i'm i thought it was kind of boring but i like that was i did like the bad guy in this one with the with the with the dome head and he had like like this glass container where his brain was there and there's like blood sloshing aware out inside of it. I found myself thinking during the movie, it's got to be kind of uncomfortable and weird to wear.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Let me ask you this. If you saw him, it would that get up, right? And wearing a white coat or whatever the fuck he was wearing from the mental asylum, would you have picked him up as a hitchhiker if he was going on? Oh, yeah. And I'd definitely give him a Christmas sweater to wear. Anna took, Brian. Anna took. He gave him a took to put over his head. Yeah. Sometimes you're kind of just asking for it.
Starting point is 01:09:05 So I liked that character, but aside from that, the rest of the movie was pretty boring. The story wasn't great. The action scenes weren't great. It dragged a lot. And then you had old granny there basting the turkey and like 10 minutes of that. bullshit. Yeah. Of him standing there like
Starting point is 01:09:24 a zombie and she's just acting like nothing's fucking wrong. They did not care about their grandma. I know. She was missing. Dinner's obviously been cooking. I know.
Starting point is 01:09:37 She must have went to the store. Yeah. He just wanted to get in the tub with his girl there. Yeah. get out of the tub and get to his sister. I don't know what was going on there. No, no doubt.
Starting point is 01:09:55 She did look a little like her, just saying. Sometimes I had trouble telling them apart, to be honest with you. It's almost like the one had to go out of their way to like one scene she was looking in a mirror. Okay, that's the one that sees. Right. And another scene, the other thing, it was like grope groping around for something. I'm like, okay, that's the blind one. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Weird. Very weird. Yeah. Yeah, it was a wacky movie. I don't know that I definitely didn't like it as much as the second one. But it still was a little bit of fun. All right. Scores.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Brian? I want to give it a four, but after Lance kind of bringing it up and the things he said, he thought the director was trying to do, and the director thinking he was doing his best work, but not his best movie. I kind of now thinking about it to see the ideas that were there. so I'm not going to give it a four I'll give it a five nice nice okay Lance I'm very close I'm very close
Starting point is 01:10:59 I have to give it a 5.25 simply because that's on my so bad it's good scale right it price is right without Steve yeah I'm like it five and if I liked it more than I didn't like it it's just a little over and if I didn't like it more than I liked it it's a little under so 5.25 nice I'm going to go
Starting point is 01:11:21 I think that it bounced down into the so bad and then almost came back up to that it's good It tried It just made it up to a four for me I think Okay Still a good scoop Not a bad school
Starting point is 01:11:33 Yeah no it wasn't a terrible movie You guys wait till we get to Part 4 the initiation In part 5 the Toymaker I can't wait I'm actually a little excited about it Super Super weird stuff
Starting point is 01:11:47 I'll take that. As long as it's something different. All right. I think that's it, huh? Yeah, that's it. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Be sure to reach out to us at Thehorrorreturns at gmail.com or go to our website, Thehorterterms.com, and you can go to all the socials from there. Next week, see, we are going to be doing some vampire action with oh, the new
Starting point is 01:12:24 Nasferatu as well as the 1922. Did I read that right? Yeah. Oh, holy shit. The original was from 22. Yeah. Over 100 years ago. Wow. Okay, cool. Well, this should be interesting. That's a 102-year-old movie.
Starting point is 01:12:43 And I've seen the new one for people that have seen it pop up on their top five list. All right. Ah, we still have time. Sounds like it might be good. Yeah, because the week after this one is our top and bottom 10.
Starting point is 01:12:59 So, Brian, we'll be joining us for that one. All right, all right. So, Brian, until Lahore returns again. Good night and Merry Christmas. Oh, ho, ho. And a happy new year. That'll stay soon. Thank you.

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