The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #45: Top 10 Underrated Horror Movies & The Walking Dead Update (Re-upload)

Episode Date: October 21, 2021

This week we talk about our top 10 underrated horror films, and bring you up to speed on The Walking Dead. Thanks for listening!

Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. You have once again found the horror returns.

And for all of you who delight in dread, fantasize about fear and glorify gore, welcome home. This is the podcast that proves the horror never ends. Each episode we seek out and review a brand new horror movie, then go back and find a classic work with similar themes, looking at both similarities and differences. Our goal is to explore how our perceptions of fear remain the same from generation to generation,

but also to point out how the presentation can change based on the social and political climate of the times. We include spoilers for the new film. However, we will wait until the very end of the show to spoil the new feature, and we will let you know before we do so. If you don't wish to hear the spoilers, simply turn us off at that point, and we promise you won't miss a thing.

We generally assume you guys have already seen the classic films, so there will always be spoilers when discussing anything that has been out for at least a year. And tonight, you're going to get a lot of that, because we're doing things a little bit differently. We had the idea to review a new film called Colossal. Which looks super cool. Which looks really cool.

One little problem. It only releases in, I think, New York and L.A. this weekend. Yeah. So even if we'd have watched it, nobody else would have. So we're going to make a little bit of a change here. We've been asked by some of our listeners to do more top ten list. And we have put together a top ten list. Philip, what are we doing this week? Top ten underrated horror movies.

Top ten underrated. And Brian, was that your first? your idea? Yes, sir. What did you have in mind when you came up with this list? I forgot what movie I was talking about with my wife. Oh, I recently purchased, I'm not going to bring it up because it's on my list, but I purchased a movie that I watched as a kid, and I just felt like it was a very underrated movie, and it's a good introduction for kids in the horror movies.

and it was right around the time when we found out that Colossel was not available, so I just kind of thought maybe we should just throw together a list of movies that, you know, personally we think is underrated and a lot more people should check out. Cool. Yeah, hey, next time we should totally do overrated movies. That would be fun. Oh, yes. All right, so we'll definitely schedule an overrated show then the next time we have a,

I don't think we're going to have too many more gaps. though. Yeah, probably not. Summer coming up. So I think the plan, Brian, is our plan

to go ahead and cover Colossol in two weeks when it has more of a major release? I hope so. Yeah. Yeah, if it gets a little bit of a wider release.

Okay. And what are we, what are we, we're back on track next week with a regular show, right? Yes, sir. Definitely.

What's that going to be? The fate of the furious. Oh. And I believe we are doing Quentin Tarantino's deathproof. Nice. Okay. That's going to be a fun week. Yeah, I didn't realize that was next week.

I'm excited about it. Awesome. And I think we may have a guest on Art from Cali. Oh. Oh, awesome. Yeah, he's been, he's been long overdue to come on the show. He's been a loyal listener since the very first show. So definitely excited to have him on. Another thing we are going to do from time to time, just as a warning, any new listeners we have.

I know we picked up a couple of new listeners over the last two days, which is awesome. But we will, we may, we will, use some four-letter words. Oh, yeah, that's going to happen. Guaranteed. Sorry, guys. Yeah, it's a horror podcast. Horror movies do tend to be R-rated, at least the good ones, right? There you go.

So I'm Lance and with me as always are my co-host Brian and Phillip You guys doing good? Yeah, I'm doing great Yeah, making it So we'll see how this goes, man It's going to be a little bit of a different show We're also going to do a recap of Walking Dead season 7 Awesome

It can be the other thing we're going to cover tonight I think we're all caught up on that finally So Brian you may have a lot to say man You watch what 15 episodes in like a week or something? In two days. Wow. I believe it was.

Dude, you've been walking, talking, breathing, shitting, Megan for the whole time. Yeah. And you liked it. You said thank you. Service. Be of service. All right.

So you guys want to start out with Cool of the Week? Yeah. let's do that. All right. My cool of the week, again, because I'm on his Game of Thrones binge is Game of Thrones. One episode in particular in season five when John Snow and the wildling dude go out past the wall to recruit the wildling army. Right. And the army of the dead comes in.

Oh, that is fucking hard home is the name of the episode. It takes up the entire episode and it's like a little horror movie watching that and it's done. So well, man, I love that show. I'm telling you. That's probably the best episode I've seen so far. Like, I watched it. I'll get into The Walking Dead later, but I watched it and I was like, why can't we be here right now?

Because it got me excited. Yeah, that episode you're talking about is called Hard Home. Yeah, yeah. It's almost like the final half hour is all just one big battle. Yeah, it really was. Almost a continuous shot. a bunch of zombies and then the way that they ended it was so awesome because everybody just suddenly stands back up and it's real somber after all this chaos has been going on it was uh

it was done really well yeah you remember that one brian oh yeah probably my favorite episode i think what did what did you check out brian oh uh i'll check that a couple things um still recovering from uh russomanial weekend uh was that your cool of the week Um, it wasn't the best WrestleMania, but I'm, I'm glad I watched it. It was, you know, the last match of the Undertaker. Yeah.

You know, he officially, officially retired. And then Romo, the great ones are going down. No, Mo, Romo. Oh. Yeah, that, that guy will be okay. Right. Yeah.

But my cool of the week, um, I finally checked out, uh, the devil's candy. Ah, I've heard some pretty good stuff about that. Yes, this stars, uh, Ethan Embrae, Pruit, Taylor, Vince, which a lot of people might know from like Constantine and

Identity. He's the guy with the eyes. The guy with the eyes? That's pretty bad. Yeah. Okay, you guys seen Identity. The one with John Kusack? Yes.

Many years ago. Yeah. The bald guy that was the mental patient. You're losing me, man. You're losing me. Okay. If you guys Google him and you see his face, you'll be like, that guy. That guy's been in a lot of movies.

Oh, that guy. Yeah. But I'm not going to give too much away about this movie. I think people should just check it out. I really enjoyed it. I really liked acting. I want to point out the actress I played the daughter. I looked it up, Keira Glasgow.

I thought she was great in this movie. Yeah. She just really, you can believe that she was just really terrified of things that was happening in this movie. And the director, Sean Byrne, actually directed a movie that is on my top 10 list for tonight. So we'll talk about that later. And, yeah, other than Walking Dead, because Walking Dead took up a lot of my time. So that was the only movie I checked out this week was The Devil's Candy, and I recommend it. All right, cool. So it gets a thumbs up, huh?

Yes, it does. Yeah, my cool of the week is a sci-fi show that's back on the sci-fi channel. As far as I'm concerned, it's the second great TV show on the sci-fi channel after Battlestar Galactica, and it's called The Expans. Have you guys checked this out? It's on my list to check out. I believe the first season's on Netflix. I believe so. I think the first season was.

like 10 episodes. I think the second one is also 10 episodes. And I was kind of holding off watching them because I intended to binge watch them. So I'm like two episodes in. It's one of those series where it's told from three different points of view. So you've got, you guys are familiar with the actor Thomas Jane. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, he plays a kind of a washed up cop. And he's, He works on, his bead is on like one of the, what they call it, the belter colonies where it's like in the asteroid belt. And they send people out there to, you know, kind of mine for precious metals and things like that. Because they've pretty much sucked up all the resources out of Earth. So he's one of the three main characters.

And then you got a guy that's, he ends up sort of becoming the captain of a ship that's out there where him and his crew sees some things happen that they weren't supposed to see. and then the third point of view is a lady who's actually, she actually runs the new United Nations, right? Oh, yeah, okay. I think they actually even call it the United Nations, but it's sort of like a mixture between the United Nations and Star Trek's Federation. Basically, you've got Earth, Mars, and the belt.

Anyway, it's... How are the effects? The effects are not too bad for TV. Or sci-fi channel. Yeah, not too. It's definitely not like a cheesy, you know, like an asylum type. thing.

It's closer to to Battlestar Galactica, but it's definitely a good show. It's worth watching. So you guys ready to move on to some headlines? Let's do it. Okay, we're going to start out with some upcoming Blu-ray and DVD picks.

A couple of movies that we gave a lot of praise to Get Out. It's coming digitally March 9th and on May 20th, I mean, sorry, May 9th. And on Blu-ray and DVD, May May 23rd.

and those are going to have a lot of bonus features and an alternate ending that I'm very interested in checking out. Cool. Alternate ending? Yes. What could that be? I don't know, but it's cool. A movie like that has an alternate ending? Right.

It ought to be exciting. Yeah. I think I read it might have had maybe a darker, not so happy ending. Okay. Hmm. So definitely want to check that out. And also, John Wick, Chapter 2 is going to be on Blu-Rour. DVD in digital

June 13th. Damn, already, huh? Yes. Seems like only yesterday. I know. It's kick-ass movie. Go buy it. It's awesome. Okay, our first headline is Sam Jackson has joined the cast of Simon West, the blob

remake. Another blob remake? Yeah. Are you serious? No, Jackson's in it all, watch it. Which, uh, I don't know. know who Sam Jackson. I mean, I have an idea. He'll probably play some kind of scientists or military guy or something. Most likely a military guy.

Somebody who yells a lot. But Simon West doing it is kind of interesting because he's known for movies like Con Air and Tomb Raider and the mechanic and things like that. Uh-huh. So it's kind of interesting where he's going to take this. Hmm. Well, I don't know. We'll see.

I don't know, man. I'm reserving judgment. I don't see it anywhere here on IMDB. Yeah, it's just recently announced. It's faster than IMDB. He's in everything else coming out in the next year. Oh, he's in everything to see him in that. He's in a lot of movies.

Universal Pictures has hired Aquaman writer Will Beal for the creature of the Black Lagoon, which is a part of the shared. Universal Monsters universe. Okay. Kind of holding my judgment on this because, of course, you know, we haven't even seen Aquaman yet. Right. Or any of the Monsters movies. Yeah.

Oh, man. Cut, would you almost say you're kind of holding your breath? Why not? That was fucking horrible. All right, move on. Okay. Into some really interesting news. Darren Aronovsky has announced his next film will be a psychological horror movie called Mother.

What? That he will also write and produce. Oh, okay. And it already has a cast, and this is a great cast right here. Jennifer Lawrence, Javier Bardem, Michelle Pfeiffer, Domwell-Leason, Ed Harris, and Kristen Wig. Wow, dude. What the fuck? That's the mall stores.

That's crazy, man. And it already has a release date of October 13th, 2017. Well, I imagine they probably ought to get started on it then. October 13th. Is that a Friday the 13th? Possibly. I believe so. Wow.

Unless it's one of those releases that comes out on a Wednesday or something like that. That's probably why it already has a release date. You're talking about all the planets aligning perfectly for that one, huh? Let's hope I'm very interesting. interested in it. So let's hope he can get it done by then. Yeah. I mean, Darren Aronovsky, has he ever done anything that's not been, you know, worth watching? Not that I can think of. Did you guys like the wrestler? Yes. Yeah. He's done he's allowed to get it. Didn't he also do the black swan or am I thinking of

somebody else? I'll pull that up real quick. I believe he might have. Let's see here. Yeah, Jennifer Lawrence, Javier Birdett. Wow, yeah, man, this is crazy. He has done, yes, he did, he directed a Black Swan. He also did Requiem for a Dream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, it's, hell yeah, I'll give it a shot. Yeah, all right.

All right. So, October 13th, we got more casting news for Rampage. Jeffrey D. Morgan, Deegan himself, has also joined. join the cast. Well, they got some firepower behind what sounds like it's going to be a dumb-ass movie, but...

Oh, my God. Well, just wait for it. I bet you when they put out the preview, man, it's going to be pretty cool. I think it's going to be a... I think it's going to be a dumb-ass fun movie. Yeah. Can we not just go back and watch King Kong again? I mean,

come on. Do we really need this? So are they going to have all three monsters like the werewolf, uh, Lizzie, and the ape? you would think they would i mean i i mean personally my opinion you have to i mean i love the i love the game as a kid so i think you would maybe they're going to start their own universe there can be another one brian this this this sounds like this is starting to become your next it remember you had it news every single fucking week for like eight weeks in the row and then now you've got rampage news look what happened with the trailer

when the it trailer came out okay okay give it a shot man look if the rock's in it, I'm going to give it a chance no matter what, you know? Yeah, and it's, uh, what is the director that did, uh, San Andreas? Those are two of my like, uh, manned he also do, uh, didn't he also do one of our,

one of our top, our bottom five of last year? Oh, did he do that one with Alan, or Aaron Eckhart in it? Oh, gosh. I can't even remember the fucking name of it. Inconsolable. Incorrigible or what was it called? Inconceivable. Inconceivable.

Yeah, that guy. Isn't that the same director? Am I thinking of, I mean, come on, man. Oh, let me pull it out. I guess we got to give him a chance, huh? Brad Payton, right? Oh, yeah, that, yeah, that guy. Brad Payton.

I mean, I give him the benefit of the doubt. Yes, that was him. I'll give him the benefit of doubt. He made, at least in my opinion, he made it the movie fun San Andreas, you know, basically just a rock fight earthquakes and trying to save his family and I went into it

and not expecting a lot and I thought it was a pretty fun movie so well bear in mind he also directed cats and dogs to the revenge of Kitty Galore what all right I'm watching it so I'll be up right now oh my gosh

okay let's move on to some other news are you guys familiar with the the Soska sisters. Yes. Yes. They are remaking David Cronenberg's Ravid. Oh. Okay.

So, I mean, it's, yeah, they're, they've done a lot of good stuff. I mean, and that's some pretty good source material. So, yeah. It's got to be,

got to be worth, worth a watch for sure. Yeah. I've, uh, pretty much liked everything they've done so far. Is, is it going to be a direct remake or is it just going to take the basic concept or do you

know? I think they're going to take the concept. I don't think it's going to be an exact remake from what I understand. Right. Oh, man, we're looking at this picture on IMDB of Brad Payton. I swear the guys cross-eyed. Go look at it. It's super funny.

He's like, he's like, you just made a movie called Incarnate. Where are you going to do? Yeah, that is not the best picture for IMDB right there. he's mad. You're like, please take that shit down. It's not funny. Oh, man. I'll tell you what, you give us something better than incarnate, and we'll consider

taking it down. How about that? All right. On to the next one. I'm probably going to mess up your name. Damien. Wayans? Oh.

But here. He was in the hateful eight. That's the movie I most recognize him from. He's a pretty good actor. Yes. He has been. casted in the Conjuring spinoff movie The Nun.

No shit. Is he going to be a priest or do you know what his role's going to be? So far, it's just said he's been casted. He's the only one that's been casted. Okay. The movie is slated for July 13, 2018. So right now, other than

it's being directed by Corrin Hardy, there is not a lot of news about the Nun. So I'm expecting since they just cast at someone, we're going to get some more news here in the next coming weeks. Well, he's also in Alien Covenant. Yes. And you mentioned the Hateful Eighth,

correct? Yes. I believe he was in one of the machete movies, too. You know what? The role that I remember him for most was kind of a short-lived. I think it only was two seasons. TV show called The Bridge.

It was on FX. I've heard of that, yeah. It was really good, man. It took place at the Texas-Mexico border. And it was a play on, I think it was possibly a Dutch or a Norwegian production originally or something. Perhaps one of our international listeners will correct me on that of which country the original bridge series was from. But it was really well done. And I mean, that was a great place to stage it, you know, right at the border between Texas and Mexico.

It's a really good show. He's a great actor. Yeah. A couple things I've seen him in. He was really good in. Yeah. So, I'm interested to see where they're going to... Who are they going to get for this? Because I don't think they want another Annabelle as far as the first one.

Right. Yeah, no, this... I hope this goes in a... Well, I don't know. The Annabelle one looks pretty creepy, too. But I hope this goes in a super creepy direction. Because that, like that mirror scene from The Conjuring 2? Yeah, that was awesome. So freaking creepy.

I'm kind of psyched about this movie. Yeah. So July 13th, next year is the release date. Another 13th release. Yeah. And we have some Arnold News. It is official. It is official he will not be in the new Predator movie.

And also some more bad news. Screenwriter Chris Morgan says, Legend of Conan is dead. Oh man, that one sounded super cool. You mean King Conan? Yeah, I think they changed it to the legend of Conan. That would have been cool. I liked

the premise. I like Arnold in it. I wanted to see that. So let me ask you this. With those two pieces of news, do you guys think maybe there's something going on with Arnold that we're not being told about, like an illness or something possibly? They said the predator he was going to

reprises role. I think they were talking about bringing the girl back that survived the first one. I thought, uh, I thought, uh, Conan was all ago, so I don't know what happened there. For years. You know that dude's taking some stuff that is, I mean, whether, you know, steroids or something. I mean, he's aged, he's his whole life and they haven't always been safe. Well, this leads into the third part of the news. He will be in a number. another Terminator movie. Oh. Because James Cameron is, the movie James Cameron is trying to do is a sequel to the second Terminator,

and he wants to end the franchise with that one. Oh, okay. I'm, I'm all for that. So, yeah, so he will be a part of that one. You're just going to make, I mean. Well, I mean, there's time travel off throughout all the Terminator methods, so they can do whatever they want. They made him look old in, you know, the new one because he's old.

Genesis? Yeah. Right. But, I mean, how are they going to fit another old Terminator into a series? I don't know. I don't know, but I'm game. I'll find out. I guess they open the door with Genesis.

Yeah, so they're going to basically pull an X-Men and say that everything after T2 didn't happen. Yeah, probably. Which is cool. I mean, that's probably what they should do. You know what? I didn't hate Genesis, actually. I didn't either. I liked it.

Yeah, it wasn't the worst. I think what's her, even though I love her. DeNaris Tergerian? Yeah, I love her. Oh, yeah, she's awesome. But I think she was miscasted in that movie. Right. Yeah, she wasn't as good as I wanted her to be, but I like her enough to let it slide.

All right. Our last bit of news right here. I think, yeah, a few weeks ago, we confirmed that director, Dennis Villanue, that guy. Yeah, yeah. Mark Chivalier could probably help us pronounce it. Yeah, the director of arrival and the upcoming Blade Runner. He was confirmed to do the Dune remake, and now they have a screenwriter.

It is Academy Award-winning screenwriter Eric Roth, who is known for doing Forrest Gump, Benjamin Button, and Munich. Wow. What? Yes. That seems like an odd choice. I know. Well, I'm not a bad one. Yes, I believe this is Eric Roth's first venture into sci-fi, so.

Interesting. but on the other hand Dennis arrival was amazing so maybe maybe it seems like an odd match or an odd pair but

maybe it'll work I mean I'm hoping I've said before I'm a fan of it I know I know the original is not great but there's a lot of stuff in there if it could be done right can be great so yeah I'll take it yeah I

upon further retrospect guys. I mean, I'm definitely willing to give it a try now. You know, you remember my reaction the first time you mentioned, I'm like, another Dune, why? You know? But yeah, maybe this will actually be Dune done right. The only problem is, I don't know how they

can do it in two hours. That's my concern. Make it a trilogy. That's what everything else is. Yeah, I have heard nothing about it being a franchise or nothing, so... Right. I don't know. Maybe when everything comes together,

maybe they'll have enough faith to make it a franchise. But as far as right now, it just seems like a worn-off movie. Yeah. Well, it would be awesome to see a Dune film that's faithful to the book.

Because I was incredibly frustrated with the version that had Sting in it and Kyle McLaughlin and Captain Picard. Because they took, basically they took 250 pages of meat

that's real important to the development of the character from the middle of the novel and just threw it away. They just glossed over it like it never happened. So, yeah, I'd love to see a faithful retelling of the actual novel, but I just, I don't know, I just, I guess, a reserve judgment. They've definitely got the right director for it, that's for sure. Well, fingers crossed. Yeah, that is all the news we have. All right, so as with every show, it's time to take a little trip. down to the trailer park.

We take a look at the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's our first new trailer this week? Our first one we're going to talk about is Slight, starring Jacob Latimore, Seychelle, Gabrielle, and Dulee Hill, directed by J.D. Dillard. Dulee, who?

Okay, so my question is, does this mean he's actually doing real magic? Is there something supernatural? here or is this just literally slight of am? Oh no, I think it's definitely supernatural. You do? You know what? That is where it catches me there. It pulls me in

that I want to watch it because it's being billed as I believe Chronicle meets Iron Man. That's kind of what it looks like. It looks super cool, man. That's an odd combination. If he doesn't actually have, if he doesn't actually have powers, he is a very good magician

for such a young age. Right. I think he does. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. I kind of liked it. It looks like it's a good small story. Yeah. It's not trying to be too overarching with too many concepts. And it's just more of like a personal story about him. And he kind of gets in over his head a little bit. And yeah, I'm, I'm intrigued, guys. What do you guys think? Definitely. And that Deulay Hill from Syke playing some gangster thug, which is awesome because I love his character in Syke. So, yeah, I'm totally on board with this one. It looks really good.

Yeah, I totally agree with you guys. This will be coming April 28th. Okay, our next one is Tonight She Comes, starting Adam Hartley, Frankie Ray, and Jenna McDonald, directed by Matt Stewart's. I did not know what to think of this one, guys. Yeah, I don't know. Really weird. It could definitely go either way. I mean, it looks like it could be quirky, cool.

but when you take that route, man, sometimes it just ends up bad. So, I'll save judgment until I see it. Yeah. Yeah, this. Interesting. I'm interested. Yeah, it definitely does.

It looks like it can, it can completely go one way or the other. I'm hoping it goes, it goes good. I mean, it looks interesting. It looks, it looks really violent.

It looks like there might be a lot of humor in there, too. Yeah, definitely. You know, I do enjoy a Cabin' A Wood movies, so could not get an actual release date on this one. I think it previously was released

like in the festival circuits and stuff like that. So when I get a release date, I will update everybody. And now into the two biggest trailers. First one we're going to start is the Mummy trailer number two, starring Tom

Cruz, Sophia Bettella, Annabelle Wallace, Javier Botet, Russell Crowe, and many others. Man. Directed by Alex Kurtzman, who is known for the recent Star Trek movie, Spider-Man, and unfortunately Transformers. Oh, that's not necessarily a bad thing. Well, what do you think about that's trailer?

I thought it looked pretty good, man. This is definitely the longer one, so it kind of gives you the whole scenario of what the movie's about. I mean, it's like five f-in minutes, so they just took the whole plot. of the movie and shoved it in a trailer. But it looks good, man. I'm totally interested in it. You know what, Brian?

I hate to say it, but I'm kind of looking forward to this, man. Yeah, I really, I really want this shared universal monster universe to work. And this trailer to me look like Mission Impossible. Mm-hmm. Mixed with a horror movie. Yeah. That's right. I'm cool.

I'm cool. Mummy Impossible. Yeah. I'm totally cool with that. Which for the most part, most likely, except for maybe this, I think it was the third mission impossible. Other than that one, I've enjoyed all the movies. Yeah. It's always a good time at the theater, for sure.

Yeah. It looks like brainless, fun. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be very suicide squatty, I guess. I definitely got the suicide squad vibe. So, I mean, I think, I don't know, I think it'll be a better movie than that, too. Right. I've got high expectations for it. And with what Alex Kurtzman has done with Star Trek and things like that,

I think he'll do well with this one. Yeah, I'm definitely going to be there. I'll absolutely be there to see it. I'm sure we're going to cover it on the show. But yeah, I really hope that these do work out. Because I'm kind of like getting a little excited now, you know. I wouldn't say it looked like a straight-up horror movie, but it looked like a good action movie, you know, with horror elements.

in it. You think we'll get cameos from other Universal Monsters in this? Or maybe they'll do like, they'll go the Marvel route and do like a mid-credit scene or something? They'll do something. Absolutely. You can guarantee that there'll be a post-credit scene. All right, everybody

don't leave when the credits start rolling. Right. Yeah, I definitely. This one is slated for June 9th. All right. Cool. And on to our final trailer, Annabelle Creation starring Miranda. I Stephanie Sigmund, Alicia Vela Bailey, Tolita Bateman, and Anthony LaPaglia, directed by David F. Sandberg, who directed Lights Out.

Yeah, it looks to me like they're just trying to, they're just, they're hoping that the, that the formula for Ouija Origin of Evil sticks on this one. Because they're doing the same thing. They're kind of going back and doing a prequel type thing. Yeah, is that the same little girl from Ouija? You gotta be fucking kidding me. Is it the same girl? I gotta look at a shoot. That would be ridiculous, dude. All right, let me.

No way, that's too blatant. I'm pulling it up right now. I thought maybe you guys had noticed if that was her. This makes interesting podcasting right here. I could be wrong. I think I'm wrong. It's all right. No, no, wait.

Lulu Wilson, yes. No, Julie. You gotta be fucking kidding me, dude. Are you serious? Yes, the little girl that was possessed in The origin of evil is her. The actress is Lulu Wilson and yes, she is in this one. Yeah, so, so. A little bit of annoying thing that I would talk about.

Right. Yeah, she did all right, man. I'm gonna stay far away from this one, boys. You think so? Yeah, you guys are on your own with this cool shit. I'll totally watch. Fucking Annabelle sucked and this is gonna suck too. That's hard.

Well, we, you know, we thought the same thing of Ouija, because that first Ouija movie was unbearable. It's wiggity whack. You know, I think. You know what? I watched it before we reviewed the new one, and I will probably never watch it again, ever. Like I had an Oculus feel at first, and then I watched it, and it wasn't.

Oculus was really good. I didn't like Ouija, though. Yeah, it was like Oculus done bad. Right. That's what basically. Yeah, this one, I'm, I'm, I'm interested to see where they go. They are slapping that the Conjuring Universe tag all over this trailer.

Right. Hopefully. And I do like the actress, Alicia Vela Bailey. She was, I forgot the character's name and lights out. The creepy lady that shows up in the dark. Uh-huh. She plays a lot of monster characters. She's actually a model in real life.

And, but she, when she gets these roles, it's basically they make her look like nothing she looks like in real life. And, uh, okay. Very interested to see if she's got that kind of same role in this movie. Is she playing like some kind of ghost or demon or something? So. Very possibly, I would say. Yeah. I mean, the same director, and they definitely got some creepy aspects to it when it looks like she, you know, starts turning into a demon and all that.

So, yeah, she, she was also in the purge movie. She was one of the, the original purge movie. the guy that was knocking on the door, he had the two ladies with him. Oh, yeah. She was one of them? Yeah, she was the blonde one. Oh, cool.

She was the creepy one. I liked her. So she's kind of got a, she's kind of got a serious horror vibe going. She's got the horror he plays. Had no idea. Cool. So Annabelle creation, August 11th.

We shall see. I'll let you guys tell me. And that is our final trailer. Yeah, we got a couple. emails in. One is from, take a guess, Patrick.

Oh man, you didn't let, you didn't give me a chance. I was going to say Patrick. Our show pep guy. He says, Hey guys, I wanted to send you

some requested feedback this week. Brian had asked about Cyborg and the CGI and Justice League last week, etc. Brian, you are more or less correct.

Cyborg is a techno-morph, meaning he can absorb technology and integrate it into his body. The CGI works for his character because he oftentimes uses guns or other weapons that become part of his arms. Now, one thing I saw in the trailer that I've never seen in the comics is the full armor he morphs into during one scene. However, I'll give them a pass because it's a feasible ability.

Cyborg usually is more in the background running communications and tactical planning. So, hey, look at that. So he's the IT. guy. He's the Justice League's IT guy. So he just yeah he keeps morphing and his technology advances. So that makes sense. A couple of other things

said you guys had mentioned something about tweaking the rating system. I had a thought about this also. I like the 1 to 10 but you could give it a term instead like 8 out of 10 to creep factor or say I'll give 7

Crips out of 10. Oh, that works. Finding the right term would be the trick. Let's see. What do you think about that, Brian? That's a good idea. I mean, I don't know if you've seen Denny made a comment on our Facebook page. Did he said, yeah, he said we should go with the thumbs up, thumbs down.

Yeah, I saw that. Ah, like the old Cisco and eBay. Yeah. Yeah, and that works too. Yeah. There's so many gray areas for that. Right. Yeah.

Should I go see this or not kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. I think Patrick's on to something. We just, you know, the right term. Sure. Got to figure that out. He says, also the It trailer had me really excited.

I was actually a little freaked out by it. I think this is going to be way better than the original miniseries. Like Lance, I, too, is taken back when I first read the book when seeing it. As always, keep up the great shows. Always looking forward to the next one. Thanks, Patrick. Cool. You are awesome.

Our number one fun. I tell you what. he's our honorary fourth member since he writes half the show. And then let's see. We had one more email coming in. Let's see what it is. From Jason Rosado in Houston, Texas. He writes,

Why not have a segment dedicated to what weapon would you make in a zombie apocalypse? Hmm. Think about it for a second. He said, it would be neat to have a list of simple household items that you are only able to use to make your weapon. Mine would be a thick leather jacket with duct tape to secure five foot sharpened poles

so I could head strike at a distance. God damn, Jason. You put some thought into this, man. I'm having a hard time visualizing that, right? Sounds awesome. I'm going to go with sword. I'm going to find a freaking sword, and that's what I'm going to use.

Yes, because in every sort, Yeah, in every kind of apocalypse thing, somebody needs a sword. Right? You're going, Michone. Yeah, definitely. What about you, Brian? Oh, just watching The Walking Dead this past without getting into the review, I think Lucille is very effective.

That's true. Mm-hmm. You know, it's... Because she uses that a lot more for intimidation, I would imagine. Right. Swinging around and definitely does the job, though. It's a little bit more effective than I thought. it would be a scene I'm going to bring up in a review.

But, yeah, I think I would go with something more practical. You know, guns, you know, run out of ammunition. And they attack walkers. Yes. So I think I'll go with Lucille. Got it. Good choice. Well, I mean, he said common household item.

I don't, I guess you would call what I'm going to say kind of a common household item if you have your own house and you have a yard that you have to maintain. but I don't see how you could go wrong with a good old-fashioned chainsaw. Frankly, I mean, because look at it this way. If it's the end of the world, I mean, you don't have people driving their cars up and down the road. There's going to be gasoline everywhere. You're going to be able to siphon gasoline out of every vehicle you come across. You're going to be able to get gasoline from stations because people aren't coming in for regular fill-ups. So there should be plenty of fuel to keep you going for years and years and years with a good old gas-powered chainsaw.

all you need is a little bit of, you know, saw oil. And, I mean, you get, you get one that's like a professional grade. Those fuckers will never even get close to you. Well, if we're using, like, garden stuff, you can go full of sling blade, take the, take the blade off the lawnmower. Oh, nice. That's not a bad weapon. It's not bad at all. Yeah, sorry, Dwight Yolkham.

Had to bring that up. And I killed him. But yeah, thanks to everybody who reaches out to us. We love the feedback. As always, you can reach us at our Facebook or Podbean page. Or you can email us directly at thehorror Returns at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from everybody. Now, after Jason's email, we're going to segue ourselves right into a recap of the Walking Dead season seven.

Season seven, it was the best of times. It was the worst of times. This was definitely one of those seasons that got people to line up on either one side of the fence or the other. Some people fucking hated it and some people fucking loved it. Some people loved the first half and some people like the second half, but, you know, kind of just depends, I guess, on what you were looking for and what you were looking forward to. So if you guys are cool, I think I'd like to kind of, if you guys want to sort of break it into the first eight episodes, and we'll talk about all that, and then we'll go to the second half.

Is that cool? Yeah, I'm okay with that. Let's do that. All right, so we'll start with the first half of season seven. And one episode that I think might deserve a little talk all by itself is called The Day Will Come When You Won't Be. And this was the highly controversial season seven episode one, which basically picked up exactly where the last season left off, which was kind of like a fade to black, where you could get the point of view of who was being. murdered by Lucille. And this one was told in a lot.

I remember the episode was told in quite a few flashbacks. So it was a little bit Tarantino-esque, I guess, in the way that it was put together. But specifically going on what happened in this episode and who the victims were, how it went down, and what the aftermath was. Brian, what do you think? I think this was a very, very powerful. episode. I mean, we all knew who was going to die. And I think they still did it in a way

that that was very emotional. And honestly, I didn't, I didn't think they were going to go with two people dying. And I don't know. It was a crazy episode. I think that's why, you know, I'm to let everybody

know, I kind of dropped off after this episode. And I had to binge the rest of the season. It's because I kind of felt like the next episode after this was a little, I mean, we're not getting into the episode right now, but I thought it was a little weak compared to the first one. Right.

Because the first one was just basically just an emotional roller coaster. Yeah, it was non-stop. Yeah. And it introduced a character, it didn't introduce it because he was introduced in the season before. But Negan, I think, is, in my

opinion, one of the best TV villains. I know a lot of people kind of throughout as the season went on kind of changed their opinion about him. I think he's great. He makes you want to hate him. Like, my wife watches the show with me

and she's just rooting for every chance for somebody to kill him. Right. And, yeah, I think this was a very powerful episode. Yeah, definitely, man. This was definitely my favorite episode of the season. It had drama.

It had made me feel emotional through the whole thing. It was chaos, man. This was one of those where at the end of it, I was kind of sitting there stunned, you know? And if you could do that in an episode on TV, then more power to you. That was awesome. Great episode. And may I say Abraham still went out like a badass? Yeah, he did.

Suck my balls. Is that what he said? Something like that? Yeah. And then you get the emotional words from Glenn, you know, Maggie. What do you say? I'll still find you or I'll find you. Absolutely.

Eyeball hanging out of his head. Oh, man. That was so crazy. That's what he said. Look at all the, you know, drama they stirred up on social media and everything. There were people that said they were going to stop watching the Walking Dead because that was too violent. Oh, yeah. And, man, if you can do that, you're doing the right thing.

Yes. Very polarizing episode for sure. So here's my perspective coming into it. I'm a comic book reader. So I've read all the comics. I'm way ahead of even where they are at the end of the season in the comic books. And yeah, it's almost like, like you said, Brian, we kind of knew what was coming. They pretty much had to kill Glenn off because this was the big dramatic death of Glenn in the comic books.

I think it was in episode number 100 where it happened. And Abraham had actually been killed off a couple of issues prior. Oh, yeah. He was the one who got the arrow through the eyeball. Right. It was actually a different character in the TV show. Okay. So when they killed him off, I kind of thought, all right, they're kind of changing things,

and they're going to keep Glenn alive. And then they just ripped my fucking heart out. Yeah, no kidding. When Darrell got up and fucked with him, and they said, okay, fine, we'll kill another one. Where to go, Darrell? Yeah. Yeah, nice going. Gerald.

But yeah, I thought it was really well done. I think it was definitely the right two characters to kill off. I do love the way that they follow along with the comic book, and yet they do change some things up. For example, in the comic, Andrea is still alive, and she's the one who's with Rick rather than Michone. Oh, right. But, yeah, I mean, other than that, I really appreciate it. I thought it was a great premiere, and unlike some of my friends, I loved it. Yeah, good introduction to Negan, too, man.

He came out like a badass. But you could tell exactly who he was already, man. He's ruthless, he's vicious, but he's charismatic as hell. That's what I like about him. I think they picked the right actor. Oh, yeah, dude, he's awesome. Yeah, a lot of people are real upset because he kind of looks nothing like the Negan in the comic book. But who gets a fuck?

I mean, he carries the swagger and he pulls it off. He can make his own Negan. I think he's just right. So that was the premiere episode. So what else happened in the first half? Well, let's see. We met up with a group that was called the kingdom. Oh, right.

And they had King Ezekiel and his tiger. Let's see, what else happened? We had, did we come in contact with the female survivors in that first half? I think it was, right? Yeah, that's when we were learning a lot of new things about the world and the world got a lot bigger from what it was, you know? So the first half was all just

a whole bunch of new information and discovery. And they're not in the comic book. Oh, really? Nor are the trash people that we're going to talk about later. They weren't in the comic book at all. Super weird, those people. No kidding, right? Why do they talk like that? That's what I kept

asking my wife. I was like, do we just lose the way we talk in the zombie apocalypse or? Is that how they talk to begin with? I mean, are they all related? I don't understand. But, yeah, we also, we got Carol and Morgan in this episode. Yes, we did.

Yes, we did. And if you'll recall, by the time we got to the midway point of the season, there was quite a bit that happened there, too. A lot of shit went down there when Negan showed up and had them bring the pool table out. Yeah. And we had the little fucking douchebag character that tried to sell Rick out. Spencer. Yeah, it backfired on him, didn't it?

Yeah. What did you think about that, Brian? You know what? I didn't know what to think of this. Because, you know, like you said, he was a douche. Yeah. But he seemed to come up with this hairbrain scheme of I'm going to go get cleaned up, nicely dressed. Bring something.

I don't know if it was a bottle. bottle of whatever. And I'm going to get in good with Negan. He's going to sell him. Yeah. And what did he tell, Rosie? I don't care if it takes two years or a couple months, a couple years. I'm going to get in good with him. And then maybe we could make her move. Yeah, he thought he was playing a long game, huh? Yeah. And then he gets into this, you can't trust Rick, which I can see where this was going to go. Yeah, right. And then Negan's basically like, so you want to take over? And he's like, you want to take over? And he's like, yes and he was like well if i was you i would have just killed rick and took over but obviously you have no guts and then we get the scene where he spills his guts out on the ground which again shows you that's straight from the comic book which you do have guts yeah they've been more wrong

about anything in my whole life they were they were inside your body the whole time and yeah he's great man and then and then you get the scene of um I believe the character's name is Olivia. Right? She gets, she gets, uh, after, nope, no, I'm skipping over a scene. Um, Rosita finally, uh, takes her shot with the bullet that, um, she had, G. Yeah, which I wanted to bring up.

Another reason I would have Lucille, because apparently Lucille can stop bullets. Apparently, that was a lucky fucking stop, man. This got to play for the Yankees. Yeah, so, uh, we get Rosita. She gets taken down by one of Egan's people and she refused. uses to tell who made the bullet and Negan orders somebody to be killed and unfortunately

it's Olivia who nobody really knows the character. She is the one that is in charge of the pantry and things like that. Right. Yeah. Get shot in the head. They killed off two non-essential characters is what happened. Yeah. Which was the biggest thing that happened in the entire season after the first episode. Yeah, I didn't see Olivia coming but Spencer I did because

again that guy was an asshole and he his days was coming he was counting down the days right and then where did we go from here they finally the reveal that Eugene is the one that makes the bullets

and then they basically take Eugene oh right yeah so they take him and he's he's featured in one of the episodes later in the season yes so he's he he he gets in good with nighan like uh spencer was trying to do yeah and i somehow this numb nut actually pulls it off yeah i don't you know i just watched all these episodes so i'm trying to think i took in a little too much information at once trying to remember oh right yeah we

um the reason why i uh he i think he's really in with nigen is because we get that scene when he's before he makes the bullet where Rosita basically tells him that he's worthless. He's a coward. He never does anything. But in Niggins camp, he's a different person. Yeah, he's somebody important. Yeah, he's someone that's needed. Yeah.

He has skills that are, you know, lack of better word, appreciated. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not super mad at him, you know. Like, I think a lot of people think that he's a traitor and they hate his character now, and I really don't. I think, you know, that guy has done what he's had to do to survive the whole time, and he's using the skills that he has to do it. And I like the actor as a person, so I'm okay with it.

Yeah, I mean, in his words from the show, from that night when Glenn and Abraham got killed, he's never been more scared in his life. But being with Negan's people, he feels like he's never going to have to feel that way ever again. Right. He's got protection. Oh, you're talking about Eugene? Yeah. Eugene.

Dr. Eugene now. Back to his old bullshitting ways again. Because that dude sounds like a doctor. Are you kidding me? Which, does he not like women? I'm not sure. Nah, he was always trying to get with Rosita, remember? Yeah, because he had a...

Maybe he was trying to get with Abraham. Oh, don't go there. Are you serious? Jesus is gay. You think so? We learn that big bombshell. Yeah. I mean, they do have gay characters in the Walking Dead, which is, you know, cool.

I mean, it's like real life. There's actually people who have different lifestyles. Yeah. I just had that question. Because, you know, he had, even though he wasn't allowed to fuck him or anything. Right. Negan did send a couple of women and he just totally did not want to be touched at all. I wanted to play video games.

He's just a game, man. Which somehow he thinks playing. socially awkward. Yeah, he's definitely got some severe case of Asperger's. But I totally agree with you, Philip. He's using what he has to stay alive. You know, he doesn't have these fighting skills or

survival skill. Matter of fact, that is his survival skill. Right. Him, him, because he is a smart guy and plus he's obviously a bullshit artist. I mean, we go back to the one season where he had everybody thinking he had the cure and had to get to D.C. So,

He knows how to bullshit his way out of things. So it's the same way that he got into this group. Now he's just in a different group. Yes. Okay. So let me ask you guys, what do you guys think about Carl's story arc through this? Because in the comic book, I almost said the governor, Nigen really took Carl under his wing.

I mean, he wanted to almost like adopt him sort of. And they hinted at that in the first half of this show of this season, but they never really went as far as they do in the, comic book. They may still get there. Yeah, I kind of felt like when he, the, the scene where, um, Carl tried to kill him. Yeah, he has a lot of respect for Carl.

Right. Yeah, he, he took him in and, you know, he took him in and I felt like what, what Carl was seeing, he was kind of like, wow, he was like in awe, especially the scene where he had everybody kneel. And after he was done talking to him, he, Negan turned his back and looked at Carl and he was like, they're still kneeling. And then he, like, told everybody that can get up.

And I think Carl was just kind of like, wow. So I'm wondering what that, what that portends for the future, you know, with Carl's storyline moving forward. Which in that episode, we do get some more fucked up Deegan stuff. Right. When he has Carl take off the bandage. Yes. That was cool. I like that.

And I thought, I mean, I don't know if I thought it was supposed to be funny, but him just fucking with Carl and was like, that is some nasty shit. right there. Can I touch it? Can I touch it? Yep. And then all of a sudden he's like, I keep forgetting you're still a kid. You know, he could see that, you know, it's right. He actually felt bad when he heard his feelings. Yeah, because he, I couldn't tell because at first it seemed like he was trying to break down Carl. But then he kind of made me feel like he kind of had a little sympathy for him because then he would tell him if I was you, I would never wear the bandage because anybody that sees your eye knows not to fuck with you. Knows what a badass you are. Yeah.

It is pretty badass. So what do you guys think about the second half of the season? Do you think they started it up the right way again with the, you know, the group that kidnapped Father Gabriel and the way that he left the message for people to come find him? Let's get into these trash dump people or whatever. They are the weirdest fucking characters on this show. No kidding. Even the way they walk around. They walk around like their walkers themselves.

Yeah, they're super fucking weird. Yeah, and I don't understand the way. Yeah, I don't understand the way they talk. Right. It's very strange, but. Like, the world hadn't ended that long ago. You know? But they are, they are vicious, ruthless people because they take, what is the

lady say all the time? We take, no bother. Yep, exactly. And we got introduced to the, the pit zombie with the metal helmet with the spikes. That was really good, man. That was the coolest scene in the second half of the season. I'm going to tell you that right now.

Yeah. That gladiator zombie, that was fucking awesome. That was pretty cool. That one had me going. That was probably the only piece of the second season that had me talking about it, man. There was some interesting stuff, but nothing else really happened. Yeah, I kind of wanted more background on them because they were just so weird. and they did mention that they've been there since the start of it.

Sounds like they've been there for longer than that, man. They may have been living in the trash before it went down. They probably anticipated the zombie apocalypse, right? Maybe that's why they talked like that. I don't know. Yeah, it was just very, very, I don't know, like when they took Rick to the top of the trash dump to look. Right. You know, they would, instead of just saying, take him up there, she was like, take Rick up up.

You know. Yep. It's super weird, but very interesting character, the one that was in charge. Yes. Because, you know, we get that scene later where she's asking Michone, does Rick belong to you? And she's like, well, we're together. And she was like, well, I lay with him after. That's right.

You know, we take no bother. Yeah. Why not? She's like, you're going to do what, bitch? And Rick just kind of leaves. slowly backs away quietly. You know, we got work to do. Or not getting in the middle of that shit.

I think the second half, we got a lot of interesting characters. We got how I'm blanking on his name. He's one of Ezekiel's guys. The guy that tried to force a war. Oh, wow. That was

that almost took me out of it, man. I was really fucking pissed off when Morgan killed him. Because he was really onto something there. He was just trying to get them pissed off enough that they wanted to fight. I thought it was weird that Morgan killed him. I thought it was too. Well, actually, I didn't because of the relate. No, not that. It's just the relationship he had with the boy that he was training. Right. He

kind of, almost like a father's son relationship was happening. He even says that after he kills the guy that because of him, I forgot his son's name, but instead of saying the boy's name, he said his son's name. Oh, okay. And everybody's like, who? And then he's like, and then he says, I think the boy's name was Benjamin or something. And he's like, no, I meant Benjamin. But I think he just, he had all these flashbacks. Oh, okay. I see what you're at. He had these flashbacks of his son and his wife. And I, you know, I kind of felt like we were going back to Crazy Morgan, who was hiding out in

buildings, making booby traps and stuff. Kind of a PTSD. Definitely pushing you back that direction. Interesting. All right, I hadn't looked at it that way before. I'm glad I'm glad we're talking about this. Yeah, I do understand what the guy was trying to do because... Yeah, I do too. I was on his side all the way.

I did not want to see him get killed off. Because Ezekiel was never going to go for going to war. Right. Because in his mind, they can maintain this deal, which, you know, these deals were never going to work out. Right. Not in the long run. Yeah, the saviors were just going to end up. wanting more and more and more.

And they're assholes about it. If you're going to be an asshole about it, you can't have it. Right. And then who else was? Speaking of assholes, what's his name that runs the hilltop? Is the biggest ass. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

The actor's name is Xander Berkeley, I think. He's in Salem. Yeah. I'm glad they took all his supply of alcohol. Well, you boys ain't seen nothing yet. If it sticks with the comic book, he's got some pain coming his way. Let me tell you. Yeah.

Well, it looked like he was getting ready to try to kill Maggie in the last episode. Yeah, he thought about it. He was two chicken shit to stab a guy. He's a fucking pussy. Yeah, same pussy. And you can see him. He's losing the people day by day. Well, of course.

That same scene you guys just brought up. You got people walking by. Maggie's like, oh, it's his first time he's learning. Right. And the people are like... Yeah, and the people are like, that's not what he told us. Right. He sees it as disrespect. So...

Yeah. If they don't follow the comics on his story arc, I'm going to be really pissed off. And he's such a... He's such a smug asshole, too. Yeah, he can... He doesn't even take time to remember people's names. Because you have that scene where he's calling Maggie Marcy or Martha. That shit on purpose.

But at the same time, but within the same scene, he, he thinks Sasha's one of the hilltop people. Like he doesn't even know who. I don't remember that. Yeah, there's a scene. Yeah, there's a scene. He was like,

what are you doing? You know, you should be, you know, whatever. And then Jesus is like, this is Sasha. She's from Alexandria. Hmm. And I'm like, wow, you don't even know who your people are. Wow. You don't even take time, you know.

And from there on, I was like, this guy's an asshole. Oh, yeah. Okay, so speaking of Jesus, what do you guys think about him? I'm starting to really like him. I did not like him the first few episodes that he was in. He was kind of cheesy the first few episodes that he was in. But I think that he's kicking ass now.

He's had a couple of scenes in there that were, I think it was maybe in the first half of the season. Right. Some kind of martial art scene. Yeah. Jesus is a, he's a ninja. Yeah, that was pretty cool with shit, man. I'm digging Jesus. He's actually becoming one of my favorite characters.

Yeah. Slowly but surely. I want him to step up because they had that scene with the leader of the hilltop where he basically challenges him. Yeah. Right. And Jesus is like, you know, that's not what I do. I help. That's what I do.

And I kind of want to know the backstory of that because he keeps basically like telling him, are you going to step up? Because I know you're not going to step up. And I just want to know what that's all about. But, yeah, Jesus is a ninja. You know, that guy disappears when he wants to. You know, he's got martial arts moves. He obviously knows, like, park horror and stuff like that. Yeah.

That was, yeah, on the get-go. Yeah, he grew on me throughout the season, too. Yeah. Yeah, that was a big surprise for me, because I, you know, that first couple episodes, like, when they were chasing him, it was almost like a comedy. Remember when Derek was in there and they were trying to try to get him to slow down and catch him? When he had the two baddest-ass dudes from their group were trying to catch this one guy. So, yeah, I like him, man. But just in general, I think that this was a, they can't all be winners.

And I think there was, I feel like there just wasn't a whole lot that happened this season. In the first half, you know, you discovered a lot of things. And then in the second half, it was all like furthering the plot. Kind of like build up, build up to the big battle type thing. giant war or whatever. And then, man, to be fair, I wasn't super impressed by the finale.

Oh, I was. I fucking loved the finale, dude. I thought it was okay, but man, I wanted something big to happen. I was afraid you were going to say that. I had a feeling you were going to say that, Phil. Nothing happened, and then the finale came and they just fought and went away. I loved, I was like, I fucking loved it. That was kind of

a let down. Yeah. Before we fully get into the finale, what did you guys think about Dwight? I like him too. I mean, his character is very close to what it is in the comic books, which he's basically going to create dissension from within.

Yeah. You know? Because you know his whole history, right? You guys know his backstory and why he is the way he is? I liked the backstory where he went back to go find his wife who took off, you know? And I kind of liked that it wasn't there, She wasn't there, and you sort of felt for this guy. Yeah.

I don't think that I like that he's back, though. Like, I wanted him to have a different storyline. Mm-hmm. Okay. Can you guys explain to me what was the deal with the doctor? You mean, the doctor that was over there working for them, and they ended up throwing him, Negan threw him in the fire? Yeah.

Why did he turn on the doctor? That's not exactly in the comic book. I think that, did he not think maybe that the doctor had helped somebody out, or he helped the girls escape or something like that? He helped some, I can't remember specifically. He helped somebody do something. Oh, no, no, no, no. Dwight set him up.

Dwight helped somebody and then made it look like it was the doctor. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the doctor was an asshole. Yeah. So really, no love lost there with letting him die. Okay, okay. That's why they had to go get another doctor from the other community. Really, the only reason that scene was there was to show,

Was it Carl that was there at the time? Or was it? Yeah, it was Carl. Or was it Eugene? Yeah. It was. Yeah. No, it was it was Eugene.

Oh, was it Eugene? Yeah, because they kind of. I'm getting it all mixed up then. It was to show Eugene, this is how we work here, and you better straighten the fuck up. Yeah. They also implied that we, we have another doctor. Right. Because Eugene was claiming to be a doctor.

Oh, yeah. And, you know, have PhDs and diplomas. Okay. That makes sense. Another thing I wanted to bring up, we didn't touch on, was the other community of women. Right, yeah, the little ocean Which, and that's not in the comic book at all either.

Okay, did, I don't know if I was wrong for feeling this way. Did you think this was a community of lesbians? Not really, because they said real early on that, that all their men were basically killed off by the same. I just kind of got that impression at first because there was, a lot of them kind of looked. Yeah, there was one that kind of looked like Justin Bieber a little bit. Right.

Amazonian women. Yeah. Well, I mean, in all fairness, though, what female doesn't look a little bit like Justin Bieber? Yeah, I mean, that wasn't, I don't feel like that was a huge part of the storyline. I mean, I guess it's how they got the guns. But it was kind of a shitty way that they went about going to get the guns. They were a MacGuffin, right? They were just put in there so we could get guns, which is stupid because in the comics, they, never gave all their guns up to Negan. They kept them. They hit them. Ah, yeah. So they just I think it basically it's

so you can flesh out a 16 episode season. I guess. I think they're also trying to keep a window dressing in there as long as they can. Because the comics are like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You got this, you get this, you get this. The next panel, the next issue, the next the next, yeah. See, that is not

what they did in this season at all. Yeah, they really dragged it out. So they had to add a lot of extra stuff. Yeah, I was disappointed that they wasn't involved in the finale because you had you had so many that wanted to fight but they were like I think a couple of them were there weren't they?

No, basically they were like some of us want to fight but if everybody's not going, none of us are going. You know what? If they dropped the ball on anything this season I would say it was that then. Just adding in a whole other group for like two episodes? Just to get guns. Yeah. That was kind of

fucked up. I'm not going to stop watching it though. I mean, I think I'm still looking forward to the next season, and they've had so much good in there that it's hard to say, oh, I'm not watching it because of this season. It just wasn't my favorite season. It's like the prison season to me. The prison season I thought was super slow. All right. I didn't really like it.

Well, here's what I really fucking loved about the finale. So the finale was called the first day of the rest of your life. And the way, because I thought for sure that the trash people, that the trash people, we're going to stay on Rick's side the whole way thick and thin. Yeah. You know what? They can turn their guns on them. I love that.

Yeah. I didn't think they were. Yeah. I've kind of seen that coming because I didn't. I didn't see it all, man. I kind of figured not everybody was going to be on Rick's side. You know, he's going to all these different communities basically trying to recruit them. You know, you got to have somebody that's like, the other side's offer seems a little bit more appealing.

Hmm. And I thought the weird Sasha Negan thing, man, I didn't get that. Oh, I liked that too. I did. It didn't make any sense to me. I'll tell you what, the three things that got me were when they turned the, when the, when the trash people turned the guns on Rick's group, I loved it. Because I did not see it coming.

When Ezekiel's tiger jumped up and did his little action, that was cool. I fucking loved that. I said it before we got there. I was like, that tiger better fucking kill somebody. And let me tell you something. When they opened Sasha up and she started coming after Nagan, I thought that was fucking fantastic. It was cool. I just didn't understand the relationship.

It was really cool. Why did Nagan suddenly like her? I think he's trying to recruit. He knows how bad ass Rick's people are. He's trying to recruit bad asses. Yeah, because, I mean, look at who he had. He had fat Joseph who died. He had Rapy Davey.

rapey davy who died wasn't worth the fuck you know he and you know right now dwight's kind of you know flip-flopping around you know he he wants badass people around and he thinks he can break these people down and build them back up as his soldiers which um other than eugene is not really working so far see that's what i don't get they started this whole season by saying you know niggins group comes in and because you don't have their point of view, I mean, they could be the same thing as Rick's group, and it's just a separate point of view. And that's not the case, man.

Negan rules through just killing people and shit. Intimidation. And intimidation, and he's an ass to his own people. He's nicer to this group than he is to his own people, is what it looks like. And there's no way that you could build an army through that, you know? There's nobody to stick around. I've heard that argument a lot. But, you know, I mean, they would have said that about Hitler, too.

But look what happened. Dude, strange things happen, man. When you get a cult of personality like that who's so fucking lovable and likable, and yet he's so fucking evil. But look at all his top guys, man. Like he was saying, he's losing all his top guys. Well, Dwight is the one who's going to turn everything around. Daryl was not going to stick around for that shit.

I never thought for a second to Daryl would turn. Yeah, Darrell, of course. Daryl would never go for that. But Daryl's probably the strongest character in the entire series if you think about it. Well, maybe Rick. Rick or Daryl, those two are super. Daryl's definitely the fan favorite, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

But, yeah, it's, it seems strange to me that he's built this giant following over nothing but just being an asshole. Personally, there's a zombie apocalypse. I don't particularly like being told me to do. Why doesn't somebody just walk up and put a bullet in his brain, right? Right. It's what you're thinking. But there's some weird cult of personality. Look at history.

Dude, it's happened time and I begin. Nobody killed Genghis Khan. Nobody snuck up on him and killed him. Nobody fucking stuck up on Hitler until America finally won the war for everybody. Yeah, but do you know how Hitler reacted? Like, was he like that with his own people? I don't know. But I'm assuming he was.

I can't say that he would because I don't think anybody was stuck around. I don't know, dude. I think it happens. I think it's happened in history and I think it can happen again. There's just this weird human beings. We have this desire to just kind of step in line and follow the power. To be abused? Well, you got to also add in the fact that there's a zombie apocalypse going on.

There's a lot of people that are just giving up and don't know what to do. Just for the safety of it. Yeah, and then you got this guy who is obviously confident and charismatic and doesn't take any shit. And, you know, he's, he's obviously a natural-born leader. Yeah, he is shitty to his people. But, you know, he does uphold. I mean, it's weird to say he does uphold some rules. Like, you know, he had to kill Rapy Davy because there is no raping.

Right. That is a rule. Yeah. And he broke the rule. As long as you don't break the rules, I guess you're okay. It's just a really cut throat way to do it. He's like a bigger version of that, like, biker group that Rick ran into. True.

Yes. Yeah, very similar. Where they said mine, this is mine or yeah they had a they had a code yeah because yeah because like i guess there was a hierarchy there was the workers and that there was niggins people and you you know they had a point system as far as the the workers but right if you were higher up you can just go and take whatever you want when you wanted true which we've seen in the episode with uh eugene when he needed the cold capsules and for some reason he took all of them plus a bedpan and a sock monkey and

because he could. Yeah. All right. Well, I mean, I'd like to, we've obviously talked about this quite a bit. I mean, it was a long season, a lot happened. Make it two episodes. You know what? I would like to hear what you guys, you know, at the end of the day,

still going on our traditional 10-point rating system. If you take the entire seventh season, episodes 1 through 16, Brian, where would you rate this? I would give this season, you know what? Oh my God. I'm going to give it seven out of ten. Okay. There was a lot of talky-talkie going on, but I feel like we're leading into something big, something amazing.

And, you know, there was a lot of good characters that got introduced, a lot of weird characters like the trash people. Right. And, you know, for me who had to binge watch this, you know, I kind of dropped off in season. or not season two, episode two. When I got back on, it just, each episode just had me

wanting to watch the next one. And, you know, that's exactly what a show should do. And, yeah, I'm interested to see

where, where next season takes us. So, seven out of ten. I was curious to ask you about that since you binge-watched if it had more staying power if you watched

episode after episode after episode, you know, it just, it just, I don't know, it's something, about the second episode and the whole kingdom and everybody was all

here, here, you know, all this. I was just like, what, yeah, I was like, what the fuck is going on? Which I forgot to bring up, I love Jerry. Ezekiel's like right-hand guy. The fat guy? The fat guy? He's fucking awesome. Yeah, he is the happiest

cobbler-eaten guy I have ever seen. And I hope in season eight, we get to see him use that badass axe. Me too. I bet he's an awesome, fucking warrior man i want to see him wreak havoc uh man i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna be right there with you i'm gonna give it a seven i know it sounded like i was kind of down on it that's pretty odd dude i was down on it for like comparing it to the rest of the walking dead seasons i mean this is my

favorite tv show it's it's for me this one is right up there with game of thrones and i think it's done almost just as well and they're just they're just trying to extend their life and keep Walking Dead going forever, which I understand. I just, you know, it just wasn't as exciting as I wanted it to be. We learned a lot of new things, but we didn't, nothing really big and bold happened that pulled up my heartstrings and had me emotionally attached to the show. And hopefully the next season goes a little better. Well, with the exception of the, the premiere, that was pretty awesome.

Yeah, Premier was probably the best Premier. that they've ever had. Wow, that's saying a lot, man. Yeah, I'm going to give the, when it's all said now, I'm going to give the season an eight. Yeah. Yeah, I really fucking loved it, especially being a comic book reader.

Because I like the way that they keep the basic storyline going, and I love the fact that they had the balls to kill off two major characters in the premiere like that. And I do remember when season six ended, and I was watching it when it showed that point of view and then it faded to black, I mean, my heart literally skipped a beat, dude. I get scared the fuck out of me.

Yeah, dude, that whole situation was killer. That's probably the best cliffhanger in the history of TV. You know what? And they had the balls to do it. So I'll give it an eight. So I think we're all looking forward to next season. Absolutely. So moving on to our, well, what we would normally say, featured attraction,

we're going to, of course, this week do things a little bit differently, and we're doing a top 10 list. And this is going to be, uh, uh, Brian, What is this list again? This is the top 10 underrated horror movies. You want to get the ball rolling? Yeah, I am going to, this list is no particular order. My first on the list is going to be Wishmaster from 1997.

Ah, okay. Okay, I'm down with that. Directed by Robert Kurtzman. This has Andrew Divoff, I believe. He played the Jin. This is, to me, This should have got more praise than what it got. You know, I recently just purchased the Vestrian release.

They released all four Wishmaster movies in a set. And going to rewatching it, you know, there was a lot of cameos from some horror icons in this movie. Isn't Robert England in one of these, or am I thinking of something else? Yeah, just the first one alone, we got Robert England, Kane Hider. Tony Todd. Yeah, Reggie Bannister from. Phantasm. Oh, no shit.

Ted Ramey. What? You know, yeah, and this movie, um, basically, that, that expression, uh, watch, uh, watch out for what you wish for. Right. Because there was a lot of fucked up shit going on in this movie. And, um, yeah, this, uh, also narrated by Angus, Angus Grimm. What?

Wow. Wow. We got to go back and see this, man. Yes. Um, which, uh, this, this, this, this, um, which, this, this, um, this, This might, we might be reviewing this in the future, depending on a certain movie gets released this year. Okay. That's later down the line.

But yeah, the gin, I thought it was a great, great villain in a movie. I would actually, if I was in the March Madness, I might have submitted him in there. Because his powers are kind of boundless himself. So, yeah. That is my first. underrated movie right there. That's a good one. Philip?

Let's see. The first one. Yeah, also in no particular order. I'm going to say stir of echoes. That was Kevin Bacon. I remember that well. I love that movie. Thriller horror.

He's digging a bunch of holes in the backyard and stuff. Right. I really enjoyed that one. I watched it a couple times. I thought it was. Definitely didn't get a whole lot of praise. It's not one that you think about. But it was good.

I really enjoyed it. It still holds up, too. Yeah, it totally does. It's a good movie. Yeah, that was a pretty good book. I read the book was written by Richard Matheson. He's written a lot of good stuff. Including the, what was the vampire movie with Will Smith in it, where he's in the future?

It was based on the last man on Earth. You know the one I'm talking about. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Matt Matheson wrote that. I am legend. I am legend. Yep. That was a good one, and he wrote The Incredible Shrinking Man.

Okay. And he's written a lot of books that have become pretty big movies. Yeah, Stur of Echoes, that's a good one, man. It was definitely underrated at the time it came out. So the first one on my list, and again, as you gentlemen said, no particular order. It's going to be one that gets a lot of, it gets kind of a bad rap. think. It's called Halloween 3 season of the witch. Oh, I love that movie.

Very good movie. Very good fucking movie. And I think people give it a hard time because it kind of has nothing at all to do with the other Halloween movies. Because originally, if you'll recall,

Carpenter was supposed to do all the Halloween movies as more like an anthology, kind of like American Horror Story is now. Yeah. And this movie has a stamp standalone movie was was really, really good. Tom Atkins was just fucking badass. Um, he, he was kind of like a, kind of like a fallible, uh, alcoholic, uh, hero, you know? He was like, just like one of us. You know what I mean? Yeah. He just happened to stumble upon this, the truth of this

conspiracy that was going on. Um, and, and the fact that they were willing to kill kids off in the, in the, in the movie by having them put on these masks and stuff. And they had these worms crawling out of them and bugs and stuff like that. Very catchy song, too. Oh, yeah. How did it go, Brian? I'm not singing it. Was it like nine more days to Halloween, Halloween, Halloween?

Something like that. You know what? I'm going to put it on the Facebook. I'm sure I can find it on YouTube. Silver Shamrock, right? Yeah, there we go. That was the company that made the masks. Great movie.

Really, really underrated movie. What's your next one, Brian? Uh, my next one is a little bit of a cheat because I feel like if you watch both of them back to back, it's one movie. And that is the collector and the collection. Yeah, I think I've seen each of them once, but can you kind of remind me or fill me in on what it was about again? Um, well, okay, the first one starts out, you know, you got a guy, he's like a handyman. And then you come to realize he's basically casing out the place he's working at because he's going to rob it because he has a money issue. issues. Okay. And, you know, you know, he's had a past, you know, that's what he does. He,

he, he's a burglar, uh, in and out of jail. So, but he really needs this money and he goes to the house and there is, um, somebody else in the house that's set up traps all through the house is terrorizing the family. And he basically, he has to get involved. He, he can't, he can't bring himself to, because, you know, there's children involved to, he can't bring himself to, he can't bring himself to leave. And the original movie is actually a rejected script from the Saw franchise. I heard it was the same people that were involved in. Yeah, yeah, it was.

It was basically like, I think it was rejected because it was, it would have took the Saw franchise in a totally different direction. Okay. Which I actually like this character, the collector, because he's, I like, I like Tobin Bell and Saw. Right. But the collector, the collector, the. character of the collector is more hands-on.

Uh-huh. He's actually, you know, he doesn't have other people doing his stuff for him. And these traps he's set are very, very fucked up. And you got a lot of gore happening and... For lack of a better thing. Yeah, people getting torn apart and ripped apart. And the second one, you get... Yeah, and the second one is very sawish.

Because, uh, they're, they're, still after him. Same characters from the first one, but they have tracked down where the collector lives and he lives in this abandoned building which is just full of traps everywhere.

And yeah, highly underrated. Came out in 2009 and the second one, 2012. I think this is definitely one that's right up there, especially if you like the whole torture porn type movies.

I think this is definitely one for people to check out. Nice. Well, I think my next one is going to be The Witch. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it should have been Oscar. A lot of people split on this one, but I think all around everybody on this show love the movie.

Yeah, and it is. It's super polarizing just because it's such a slow burn, I think. Right. You were some people that really liked it. I'm definitely in that crowd, man. Yeah, me too. It was one of my top five. Yeah. There's a lot of people that just really hated it because it was so slow.

But I thought that they did a good job building tension and killing it. So, I mean, I don't know how underrated it is, but there's a lot of people that really hate it. So I put it on my list. I think it was an awesome movie. All right. Well, my next one is a – let's see if you guys can figure out what it is. It's directed by John Carpenter, starring Friend of the Show Keith David that we talk about quite a bit. Not the thing. Keith David, as well as rowdy, Roddy Piper,

and he ran out of bubble gum during this one. Uh-oh. You know what I'm talking about, Brian? Would it be they live? It is. Nice. It is, they live. And I think that this movie

has so fucking much to say about society and where we're headed and where we could be headed if we're not careful. And it's just kind of like it's disguised as a horror movie, but I think it's got a lot of good social commentary in it. Yeah, it was recently reviewed by decades of horror, the 1980s show.

Yeah, for Horror News.net. Right. Or Horror News Radio, I'm sorry. And yeah, they basically said it was seem like it was a movie made for 2017, what's going on. Ah, okay. We'll leave that there. Brian, what's your next one? My next one comes from director Sam Ramey, and that is 2009's Drag Me to Hell.

What? Yes. Wow, I hadn't even thought about that one. That's a good one. I love this movie. Isn't that the one with the gypsy curse? Yes, Mrs. Gnush. I thought...

This movie has a lot of social commentary as well. Yeah, I thought this... Just the character alone of Mrs. Gnish, I think... her as a gypsy witch Right. I really enjoyed this movie. And this was, this was a, this is a movie I wanted Sam Ramey to go back to a horror movie.

And this, if you rewatch it, it is very Sam Ramey. The camera shots, you know, the humor in it. Great movie. I don't know what else to say. If you haven't seen it, because I don't think a lot of people talk about it. So I don't want to give too much away. It's underrated. Yeah, absolutely.

It's underrated. It is a good one. Allison Lohman is, she's killer in that lead role, man. I really like her. Yeah, also has Justin Long plays her husband or fiancee in it. Yeah, the kid from Jeepers creepers. I like anything Justin Long does. Oh, the kid that got turned into a walrus in the Kevin Smith movie, right?

Yeah, he was. He's played in a lot of things. Oh, fuck. more comedy mostly yeah highly underrated especially if you if you love Sam Ramey movies this is definitely one to

check out right my next one is going to be the devil's advocate ah I hate that movie I love that movie we talked about it last week yeah we did and that's that maybe it was why it was stuck in my mind because I

I really enjoyed it and you never hear that one get brought up in a horror discussion Right. Rightfully so, in my opinion. I think it's, I mean, I think it counts as a horror movie, and I think it was done really well. Right. I've seen it multiple times. Yeah, that's a great movie.

You know, you got Anthony, what is his name? Damn, why am I blanking on his name? Alpacinna. Anthony Anderson? Whoa! Yeah, that guy. Yeah, he just, they just let him go full-all crazy in this movie, and I love it. And then, you know, you got to watch it for Keanu's Southern Fuller.

Florida accent he's got going on. I thought it was fucking horrible. Horrible. Oh, she was killer in this movie. I'm glad you guys liked it. You know what? She did really good in that movie, you know, because

she just had so much happened to her. By the time she, spoiler, by the time she kills herself in a movie. She is just out of her fucking mind. Well, you understand it when she kills herself. It makes

sense completely. Yeah. All right, who's next? Me? That's you, yeah. Yeah, all right. So my next one, this is where I go off the rails as far as not being a horror movie. A film, I actually don't know how you would classify this one. I don't know if you'd call it sci-fi or what you would.

We tend to go off the rails. Yeah, fair enough. But this is a movie directed by the Wakowski's called Cloud Atlas. Have you guys seen it? Oh, okay. Yeah. Like a nine-hour movie. Nine-hour movie, and that's probably part of why it's so fucking underrated,

but I really love the way that they blend all the different timelines, the way they do. It's kind of like the same characters. It's sort of a movie about reincarnation, but it's sort of not. It's very, very hard to explain. But I love the fact that they go to the past, or they go to a couple of different parts of the past, they go to present day, and they go to the future.

And it's the same actors, but playing different parts, but they're like reincarnated versions of themselves. Right. And it's got some really great talent in it, man. Tom Hanks, Halliberry, Jim Broadband is fucking amazing in it. Hugo Weaving, the Ocowski's used him a lot. It's just a really good cast, and Keith David's in it. There you go.

So there you have it. Of course I love it. I like that one, man. I thought it was super, super long, and the story's a little bit complex. A little bit? So I kind of probably should go back and rewatch it, but I remember really liking it, but not willing to like,

not enough to like dive in again. That's the problem. It's so long, it's almost kind of daunting, you know? You're thinking like, okay, what am I going to watch now? I could either watch... That was an undertaking.

I could either watch the next episode of 24 Legacy and run through that, or I could watch this three-hour movie, you know? But I think it's worth it. If you spend the time to, to really dig into it. I think it has a lot to say, and it's got a lot of really,

really great cast in it. Yeah, that's definitely true. Cloud Atlas, I think, very underrated. Better than it, it came out as, you know, or better than it appeared, I guess. Okay. My next one is going to be

1987's The Gate. I love this movie as a kid. This was one of my, this is kind of like a gooney, a horror movie to me and has a young Steven Dorff in it, who is the main kid.

Okay. Yeah, just a lot of weird shit going on. You know, they're over here reading. You know, one of those movies where, you know, maybe that person shouldn't be doing that. You got a kid reading from some book. Maybe some stupid people. Yeah, and there was a lot of

good practical effects in this movie that I really enjoyed. And like I said, this is a good introduction to horror movies if you want to introduce horror to your kids. Brian, I will bet you that I saw this movie in the theater six times. Wow. I really love this movie. Wow.

Yeah, the game is awesome. I also just recently purchased it. Vestrian is really doing a good job of putting out these older titles on Blu-ray and adding a lot of extra features. So I recommend anybody gets a chance of picking it up. It is on Blu-ray, and I

showed my six-year-old this movie and She loved it. Yeah? Yeah. You've seen it before, right? Yeah, yeah. Where they got in the backyard? Yeah.

Yeah. The hole that they take in the backyard. They got the little tiny demons come out. Yeah, which... That's good on the list, man. I like it. Yeah. That's a great big.

Yeah, which, uh, watching, watching the special features, um, those are actually real-sized people in costumes. No shit. Yeah, they just, yeah, they just, like, I think they, uh, everything is just, uh, filmed in a way that makes them look like it's like they're small but though that kind of blew my mind i always thought it was the other way around like they you know they weren't actually life-size creepy like claymation or something yeah so that was pretty cool i thought the the design of the the main creature at the end was pretty cool yeah and of course the guy the guy used

creep me out as a kid the one that came through the wall right so yeah uh night 1887's the gate, definitely recommended. It's been forever since I've seen that, dude. That was a good one. I'm going to go a whole lot newer, and Brian, I'm pretty sure you're going to disagree with me on this one. I'm going to say 31. 30.

From Rob Zombie, yeah. You know what? I didn't hate it. I just thought I was getting something else with it. Yeah, and I had just heard a whole lot of. bad things about it. Well, yeah, this was one of Brian's bottom five.

Yeah, we said he didn't hate it. But yeah, and I, yeah, I, it's not the best movie on my list by far, but I think it was still really fun to watch. And I think that Rob's,

it's not as good as House of a Thousand Corpces, but House of a Thousand Corpses is not by any means underrated. Right. I think that this one went completely under the radar. Yeah, totally. It is totally worth a watch. Yeah, you know,

I'll give it another rewere watch because I thought, I don't know the actor's name off top of my head. He plays the Knight King in Game of Thrones. Oh, the big guy? Yeah. Richard Brake. He played Doomhead. He played Doomhead.

Yeah, he probably should have been the Joker in Suicide Squad. Oh, man, that wouldn't have been a bad idea, dude. He was awesome as Doomhead. That character was amazing. Oh, I got to see this movie. I've never seen it. It's super cool. It's fun.

Yeah. I mean, it's, you got to take it with a grain of soft. He's a creepy looking dude. Yeah, he's totally creepy. You got to go in looking for like, it's more fun horror, old school 70s cheesy kind of thing. Yeah, because what I thought I was, when I seen the trailer, I thought I was getting like a running man style movie. He's been in some great movies. That's, that's a horror movie at the same time.

Yeah, that's what I expected. Yeah, and I mean, I, I mean, just for me, I mean, I only seen it once, but it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it. It just missed a mark. I thought it was a great idea. But as far as like the, I guess they're clowns or whatever, they, they, right. I thought all those characters were awesome. Yeah. But yeah, no, I think it was just, it went so, it's not that it was the greatest movie in the world.

It just went so under the radar that I think it has to be called underrated because that's totally worth the watch to me. Well, Rob Zami. It's at least definitely worth checking out to see if you like it. Rob Zami catches a lot of shit these days. Yeah. And I think it was the Halloween movies that got people. I liked the Halloween movies. I did too.

I really did too, man. Yeah. All right. So my, the next one on my list is a, I think it was a 1980s movie. It was an anthology

movie, which I thought was done really, really right, which had, I think, four Stephen King short stories in. It was called Cat's Eye. You guys ever seen this one?

Yeah, with Drew Barrymore. Yeah, Drew Barrymore is kind of like in the main one. And, uh, uh, what's his name James Woods is in one episode

where he's trying to quit smoking it's called Quidders Inc and that's actually probably my favorite part of it is where he goes to this company called Quidders Inc because he really wants to quit smoking and they basically torture his wife and cut her fingers off

and shit like that they say now if you smoke another cigarette we're going to mail you one of your wife's fingers and so he's like over here sneaking a cigarette in a car and he looks over and these two guys in a car next to him wearing suits or like looking at him, they're wearing sunglasses

and they're like shaking their head and he's like, oh fuck, what's going to happen next? The next thing they do, they mail on one of his wife's fingers. But yeah, that was a really underrated little horror anthology. I had a lot of fun watching that. You've

seen it, right, Brian? Oh yeah. I had the one story too about the guy that made the bet and he had to go out on the edge, I think. Oh, yeah. Wasn't that the guy from, not the guy from Cheers?

Who was that that was in that? He was kind of a big actor at the time. Robert Hayes. Robert Hayes, the guy from airplane, the pilot, right? I think so, yeah. Yeah, that Katzai was a really good little underrated anthology movie from the 80s. I think you guys would really enjoy it.

Definitely. That was a good movie. Good pick. My next one is also from the 80s, 1980s The Blob. I love this one. The remake was really good. Yeah, it had the practical effects were fucking amazing. Yes, yes. And we had a young Johnny Drama. Kevin Dillon was in this movie. What was the actresses name?

Shawney Smith, who's known for being in the Saw movies. Ah, okay. Yeah, this really creep me out as a kid because you just had this mass, this alien, well, I believe in that movie it was created by the military that landed on Earth. Probably. So it didn't show up from outer space? I think it did, but I think I have to rewatch it. But I just remember the practical effects and then just the whole thinking of this unstoppable mass. you know, you can't stop it.

Right. And then, you know, they had the one scene that really scared me as a kid was when the guy got pulled down the drain. Oh. Yeah. And then the lady that tried to hide in the phone booth and then it just basically, when it got in, it just basically exploded through the phone booth and just blew her apart. Oh, boy. I used to watch that movie like every year because it came on TV all the time. Yeah, all the time.

Yeah. So definitely. I'm waiting. I'm anticipating a Blu-ray release on this one. I know there's one. If you don't have a, if you have a region-free Blu-ray player, you can get one. But definitely one of my favorites when I was younger.

Cool. I guess that means I'm next. Let's do, already brought it up once this episode, but I'm going to bring it up again because it's underrated. Oculus. Ah, yes. You don't hear a whole lot about that one, man, but it was a pretty creepy movie, very tense through the whole thing.

They did a good job of building suspense. Yeah, I really like that one. Or as the Black Saint, Brian at Horror News Radio would say, what the fuck you'll us? The lead actress is Nebula from Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, that's right. Oh, okay. That's right. I know that.

Yeah, but yeah, it's, I love the ending. I loved everything about it, man. That was a good movie. Like, I wanted to see more when it was over. Yeah, Katie Sackoff was great in that movie, too. I'd forgotten about her being in it, actually. Yeah, definitely goes to have to happen now. If you haven't seen it, it's totally worth it.

Cool. All right, the next one on my list is, you might kind of be surprised I would put it on this list because it does have a cult following, but it's kind of, I think it's too small of a cult following. It's a movie called D. Snyder's Strangeland. Right. You know what?

I've never seen that. I never had you. Oh, it is fucking amazing. Robert England is so good in it. He plays the father of this abused young lady. And it's just really weird. It's like the guy calls himself Captain Howdy and he talks to people. Like, it kind of came out when social media was just getting started.

So it's kind of like on the crest of that wave. But it's a really, really fucking creepy, creepy movie. And let's see, the guy who directed it, John, Peep Plow, Paplou, he hasn't fucking done anything else. It's one of those weird deals where it's such a good movie. And you've talked about it before, Brian.

I know you said they were thinking about doing like a remake of it or a sequel or something. D. Snartor, I think he's trying to do a sequel. I think he needs to, man. It was a really good movie. It had a great weird feeling to it. You know, it's one of those movies that makes you uncomfortable watching it.

And that means it's doing its job, right? Absolutely. It sounds like it. Is that a twisted sister pin? On your uniform. More metal guys making movies. Zumago? Yep.

This one, I'm not sure if it's, I mean, it's underrated to me because I kind of feel like it does, it should be talked about more than it is. It is 1990s Nightbreed from Clyde Barker. Oh! one that we're both on both of our list. Okay, this. Okay. This was basically like X-Men with monsters. Yes, but fucking phenomenal.

Really good movie, man. Again, great practical effects. Yes. And it's Clive Barker. Clive Barker has a lot of fucked up shit in his movie. Mm-hmm. And again, you know, this has a lot of fucked up shit in this movie. And we have David Cronenberg as the fucking villain in this movie.

Oh, wow. What a treat, man. And he was so good. He wore the mask. He wore the mask that was basically just like a, just a sack with two button eyes on it. Oh, yeah, which is not.

Have you seen this, Philip? Yeah, it's been a long time. It's really good, man. Yeah, a lot of the movies are bringing back memories, man. Yeah, creepy mask, but that is not the most practical masterware. No, probably. Well, but you know what? He's the real monster.

The monsters are the human ones. That's what I love about it, man. Yeah, because, you know, you get that because they're, they're just hiding. and I forgot what the place was called, but they're hiding. Midian. Yes. Yes, they're hiding because they just won't be accepted by humans because, like you said, humans are the real monsters.

They're the ones basically, they have powers that people, humans dream about in their dreams, and they can actually do, and people just can't accept that for, you know, kind of, you know, there's some messages in there. No, you know, the sad thing about this is that Clive Barker wanted to make an entire series of films with this mythos. And unfortunately, the movie fucking bombed, which is why it's on our underrated list, of course. And, you know, he wasn't really able to do any of that. But, I mean, he was really onto something here. I read the original story that it was based on. And it was pretty close to it. It changed, you know, a couple of things in it, obviously. But

this would have been a really great series, I think, a great franchise. Yeah, and I think it's coming out. I mean, previously it was a graphic novel form, but I think they're releasing a new comic book for Nightbreed. It might be Hellraiser. I might be getting a confuse. Possibly. I know there's a new novel that involves Pennhead that I've bought, but I haven't read it yet.

I think it actually came out like over a year ago. All right, Patrick, I need you to correct me when you hear this. And he will. Oh, yeah. That's, we'll get some more show material for me. Thanks, Patrick. All right, so we both got one out of the way, Philip, so you're next. Oh, yeah, okay. But, Brian, you were going to say something else?

Oh, yeah, go, Brian. I was just going to say, it's a great fucking movie. And screen, I believe Screen Factory was the one that put the uncut version out. So, check that out. And I think it's on Netflix, too, streaming. I might possibly. I'll definitely check that out. I hadn't seen it one time.

I'm going to go the remake of Last House on the Left. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, I like it better than the original, actually. Oh, you know, that is a fantastic pick because that and Dawn of the Dead, those are great examples of remakes done right.

Right. Yeah, that movie was it was really tense. I mean, it's really more suspense horror. but if you haven't seen it, and if you haven't seen the original, it's a classic too, but I mean, if you haven't seen this one,

definitely check it out. I think it's on a must see list. Yeah, I would agree, man. Good pig, man. Very uncomfortable rape scene. Oh, my God. Actually.

The most uncomfortable scene in any movie I've ever seen in my life. I'm not joking. I actually remember seeing this in the theater and there was people getting up and leaving during the scene. I don't, it goes on for like,

Ever. Yeah, it does. Like, I remember watching it with my wife when it came out. And it was, man, it was rough. Yeah, because you're just sitting there like, you know, okay, let's cut to the next scene. And it just, it goes on. And it won't do it. They make you feel it what it's like.

Wow. You know what I mean? It's, it's uncomfortable to watch completely. But it's really good. All the past movies are going to make you uncomfortable. with some point. And it has Jesse Pinkman in it, Aaron Paul. Oh, okay.

And I can't remember the actor's name. He was the asshole from the Belko experiment. He played the father. Oh, yeah. The president from Scandal. What's his name? He didn't play a total asshole in this movie, though. Yeah.

The one movie. The only movie he hasn't been a cock sucker in, right? Tony Goldman is his name. Yeah. you go. Yeah, great pick right there. Well,

I guess you already got your night breed out of the way. Right. Back to me. Back on you. Okay. I'm going with

1997's Cube. Oh, okay. That was a weird one. Yeah. That was a fucking weird one.

That was a mind fuck movie. I remember coming out. I'm never seen it. Yeah, because you just didn't know, you know, people wake up in this room and,

you know, they keep opening these hatches and they're just realizing they're in this cube of all these rooms that just keep rotating and you kind of have to figure out the code to move into the next one because you know you might there might be traps in the next one and nobody knows why they're there it's a random random group of people and it it and then it starts to play on that can you trust these other people because people start to you know go a little crazy in there and uh interesting uh looking up this movie the the the

the director, probably another name I'm going to butcher, Vincenzo Natali. Right. He has directed, he's directed a lot of good TV. Oh, no shit? He's directing some episodes for the upcoming American gods.

Ah! He's done the Luke Cage, Wayward Pines, Hannibal, Orphan Black. Oh, dude. Very, very underrated movie. That's a hell of a resume. Wow. I got to watch this again.

I haven't seen this movie in like 10 years. at least. Yeah, and I found out there's a sequel to it, so, you know, I'm going to probably check that out. Knowing you, you're all over that. Yeah, but... It's probably awful. I wouldn't. Definitely, definitely,

definitely a good movie. I recommend as highly to everybody. Awesome. I'll check it out, man. I guess it puts me up next. I'm going to go, Mama. Ah. I think it almost belongs.

It's almost on that level where it belongs in classic list. But I think it gets kind of lost in the mix of creepy dark horror movies that have come out over the past years. That's strong praise, man. But this one is really good, man. It's definitely worth a watch. And I think it just people forget about it. And look what else he's directing that's coming up.

Oh, this is the guy that directs it. Nice. And I think that the imagery that he did in Mama could work out great for his. it, you know. Right. So I'm excited about it. The only problem I headed with Mama is little too much CGI. A little too much computer animation. I'll give you that, but they did it. I think

they did it okay with the creepy chick on the ceiling and stuff. That always frees me the fuck out. I enjoyed it. It's a great movie. I just thought it was just a little too computerish for me. I can deal with that. Yeah, that makes sense. Definitely not the greatest movie of the world, but it's totally worth of watch. And if you've never seen it, I think you should. It's, to me, on a month.

must watch list. All right, well, am I next? Yep. Yes. So the next movie that I've got for underrated that are my favorites

is actually Childs Play 3. Do you guys see this one? Uh-huh. This is with the military school, right? Oh, this,

yeah, this is the one where young Andy goes off to military school. Yeah, that was my favorite child's play. You know what? I fucking loved it because the ending

when, it was so surreal. They found that carnival. Remember? he was running away from Chucky and he found that carnival and he got on that roller coaster and nothing about it made sense. It was not a real roller coaster because it was

like all of a sudden they were inside this cave and like the you know the way the tracks were going and everything were just so weird. The most unsafe roller coaster ever. Absolutely, dude. It's like you could fall right off of it and then I mean you got to love a movie where Chucky

replaces paintballs with real bullets. That was cool. That was a sliverable. Yeah, Childs Play 3 for me is on the underrated list for sure. There's a lot of fun. Under the bed hitting the Achilles heel thing. That fucking Chuckie, man. That little bastard. That little bastard.

For a long time. Okay. Back on me. This one, I don't know if a lot of people have heard of this one. It's from 2008, Splinter. What is Splinter? It, okay. Basically, it starts out with this couple.

pick up this guy who's hitchhiking. The guy turns out to be a escape convict and he's making him drive, take him somewhere. They stop at this convenience store to get gas or whatever and

I don't, it's been a while since I've seen it. I don't know how exactly, but there's a parasite. It kind of looks like it has splinters when it attaches itself to something it grows. I don't think I've seen this movie. I haven't... Yeah, when it grows, you know, you can,

like basically if you like you can if it gets on your hand and it starts to spray and you cut your hand off basically your hand will get up and start moving around on it a little bit yeah and um really cool practical effects and um I kind of don't want to get into the story because I don't think a lot of people seen it so I think people check it out they might be a pleasantly surprised so splinter I'll definitely like it I'll check that out man uh it's me I'm gonna go uh We're getting into our Netflix movies now.

If this one's still up there, check out the taking of Deborah Logan. Oh, yes. We're always talking about this, dude. That is one of my favorite movies on Netflix, dude. Right. It's like a found footage movie. This chick goes a little bit like that last M. Night Shyamalan one, right?

Split. No, no, no, the other one. Where it goes to his grandma's house? Oh, the visit. Yeah, it's a little bit like the visit. Okay. So this chick goes to, like, her grandmother's house who she hasn't seen him forever. Right.

And she's got Alzheimer's. And so it starts out as, like, a documentary on Alzheimer's. And you eventually learn that she doesn't have Alzheimer's, she's possessed. Mm-hmm. And there's all these creepy things about the possession. At the end, it goes a little off the rails with some CGI and stuff. But it's still super creepy, and I can't blame them for any. anything that they did. Look, look, look what he's going to be directing. Insidious chapter four.

Wow. Okay. Okay. That's cool. Yeah. So, yeah, the director is Adam Robatel. Yeah. So he's, he's already picked for Insidious Chapter 4. Well, dude, I think somebody recognized him. This one is a big, big, big, big, underrated gym, man. It's, it's, it might be one of my favorite horror movies, but I love the possession stuff. I think that stuff is really super scary. And this is, this is up there on that list to me. That's strong words for a Netflix movie, right? Yeah, I definitely. Especially for one that I just happened to come across, man.

I never heard anything about it, and I watched it, and it was amazing. All right, well, my next underrated movie is a film directed by William Friedkin. Yes, that William Friedkin, the same guy that did The Exorcist. It's called Bug. Have you guys seen this one? Sounds familiar. It's basically a two-person stage play. Ashley Judd and Michael Shannon.

Oh, I have. Yeah, I remember this. Oh, yes. What a great fucking movie. Michael Shannon is just so genius. Yeah, it was very tense. You never know what's real and what's not. With a tinfoil, they put the tinfoil over where and they're...

Are they just fucking crazy or is there really shit happening? You know what? I was thinking, are they like taking drugs? Are they smoking crack? or something like that to make their minds, you know, stress this far out that they think there's bugs inside of them and stuff. Harry Conny Jr's in this one. Yeah, but he's not in it very long.

No, he's like a minor character. Yeah, it's basically, it's kind of like a two-person movie, but yeah, if you guys want to see a really well-directed, well-acted movie, bug will fucking get under your skin literally. That was great on the list, man. That was definitely worth watching. All right. What about you, Brian?

What's your next one? My next one, I believe it's an Australian film, and it comes from the director of a movie I seen earlier, The Devil's Candy. It is 2009's The Loved Ones. Oh, that's a good movie. Very... They kidnapped the guy, right? Yeah, the chick asked the dude to... She thinks she's going on a date or something like that?

Yeah, I think she thought they were going to the prom, or she asked him to the prom, and he said, basically, her father kidnaps the guy. and brings them to the house and they basically have their own little... Yeah, their own little fucked up prom at home and they start torturing a guy and it's very underrated. It's a great movie. You haven't seen it. Is it on Netflix? I think it is, right?

It might be. The actress of Robin McLevy she plays the main girl, Lola Princess. Very, very fucked up character. Yeah, you'll love it, dude. You will enjoy it out. And it's only like an hour and 20 minutes, or so, right? Yeah, it's a very fast watch

too. Yeah, you'll like it, man. Yeah, so the loved ones, 2009. That's a good one. All right, I'm gonna go continuing on with the Netflix stuff. John dies at the end. Oh, great movie. I like the book a lot better than the movie, though.

I've never read the book. It's kind of a horror comedy thing. It's very, very quirky, cool, which sits right in my wheelhouse, man. I think it was a great movie. And I really enjoyed every minute of it, I was really pumped when it was over and I wanted to watch it again, and I've seen it two or three times. You like the meat monster?

Yeah. I thought the whole thing was a rival, man. What was the stuff called soy sauce or whatever? Yes. Yeah, that was the drug that they took to get them into that other alternate reality, man. Yeah, I kind of wish maybe the ending had been differently. Like, maybe they had set it off and waited for another movie or something. Well, you should read the book then.

But yeah, I probably should read the book. It sounds like something I'd really enjoy. I don't even know it was a book. All right. Well, so we already covered Nightbreed. That was the next one on my list. So I'll talk about a movie called Jacob's Ladder. Have you guys seen that one?

Absolutely. Yeah, that is a fucked up movie, man. Yeah. That's on a must watch list, definitely. You know what? I've never felt so fucking paranoid in my life. Is that scene where the doctor tied him down and put those clamps on him and everything.

Do you remember this, Brian? Yes. It's a fucked up movie. What's so awesome about it is that it's kind of like a weird, a thought that I've had before, where I've kind of thought that I was actually dead, but I just didn't know it yet. And at the end of the movie, you realize that's what it is.

He died there was a lot of drugs involved in that thought? Do what? So were there a lot of drugs involved in that thought? Possibly, possibly. But at the end, you remember. realized that it ain't just PTSD. He literally died as a soldier in Vietnam, and this is kind of like the afterlife. Oh, okay.

Jacobs Ladder's a fucking phenomenal movie. 1990, man. Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, Tim, more than that. Tim Robbins was great in that movie. Oh, yeah. Very good.

Oh, I got to check that out. What's your next one, Brian? Okay, I believe this is my final one for the list. 1886 is Tom Atkins starring Night of the Creeps. This was always a fun movie to me. Another shout out to Atkins. Yes, Atkins is the man. Very fun movie from the director, Fred Decker, who did House.

Yes. Both House movies, Tales from the Crip, Monster Squad. It's just a fun movie about alien parasites, you know, taking over people, turning them into zombies. and didn't really realize into a recent viewing that, I guess, I think it was the director or the writer, whoever, all the last names of the characters in there are from like horror icons. No shit.

Yeah, I'm going to read off the character names, and you can probably guess who they are. Chris Romero. James Carpenter Hooper, Cynthia Cronenberg, Detective Cameron and Detective Landis and Sergeant Ramey That's pretty much right on the nose, huh?

Yeah, and then the university is Corman University After Roger Corman. Wah, wah. But I remember I had a very Tales from the Cripe vibe to it, man. You've seen it? Yeah, it's been a long time, but yeah, that was a cool one. I thought it was fun, you know,

you know, basically they're held up in a, believe it's a frat house, and they're just like fighting off these zombies. Interesting. Yeah, so that is my final pick. I thought I'd leave it one. I always thought it was a fun movie that doesn't get talked about. All right, not a bad one.

My final pick is going to be Anton Yelchin, Odd Thomas, another ice pick. Oh, yeah, that is a good one. Definitely another Netflix one. It's also under all the radars, definitely. It's also kind of more of a horror, comedy, adventure kind of thing. Right. It's not, I mean, you can't take it super seriously, but man, it was a really fun movie to watch. Yeah, I loved it. I loved it. Oh, and his girlfriend was so fucking hot. Yeah, and I just, you know, the way that they did it, I just wanted it to keep going. I wanted to keep watching it, and I think that that was the original intention. I think that there was supposed to be more movies like this.

Well, there are in the, in the universe of the books he's written. Yeah. There's a whole bunch of them. So I don't know if it just, if it bombed or it's because he died that they're not doing anymore, but, um, but, um, there are, they're not doing any more, but, um, but, um, 2013 odd Thomas man this is a definitely a must watch go check it out yeah unfortunately I think it's the second I think they probably would have you know found a way to make more of them

yeah I think that they may have to because I know it didn't do like well I don't even remember right on the theater is the only time I saw it is when it was on Netflix but man that that totally could have been a big one in the theaters I think all right well my final one

is that's gonna be one of those WTF moments probably where you guys are like, what? That has a huge cult following. That's not an underrated movie. But I want to present this for your consideration. Okay? Yes, it has a huge cult following, but I think it should have a bigger cult following. And that's 2000s American Psycho. Okay. So I want you to listen to this cast, okay?

Obviously Christian Bale. Right. Everybody knows he's the psycho. But you got Josh Lucas, Justin Thoreau, Chloe Savanian, Ries Witherspoon, Jared Leto, William Defoe. I had forgotten all these people

were in this movie. This movie is fucking phenomenal. But the reason that I would call it underrated is the director. The director is Mary Heron. What the fuck else has she ever done? She's done a couple of older movies like Betty Page,

which is kind of like a kind of autobiographical movie about the model. Betty Page. And I think she's done a newer movie, what was it called? She's had a couple of TV shows and stuff like that. But there was like a, I think there was a movie she did about vampires in a girls' boarding school. And that's it.

I think, I think that she should have done, as good as this movie was, she should have done a lot more than this, you know? Yeah, I can't fault you for it. I mean, I think it's definitely, this belongs on the classic list. If you've never seen this movie, you have to watch it, or we can't be friends. it's an awesome Christian Bell was just so fucking good right? So good

yeah it's great I don't know how underrated it is but yeah you're right I can see that it definitely needs to be higher rated I had to put one on my list that was kind of like

not really underrated yeah yeah sometimes that happens what are you going to do and let's all face facts Christian Bail is a fucking genius you know you think about everything

that he's been in Yeah. Like, you guys, have you guys seen The Machinist? Yeah. Yeah, that's hard to watch. Yeah. Yeah, he lost, what, 120 pounds just to do that part? That boxing movie, he played that crackhead brother.

Yes. Yeah. And then right after the Machinist was the first Batman movie. Right. Yeah, which he was fucking huge in that movie. Exactly. He fucking gained over 100 pounds in like six months time. I mean, you talk about a guy who is willing to suffer for his art.

Yeah, he's probably digging in real life. But as far as movies go, he's pretty awesome. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess that there was that clip from Terminator Salvation. Oh, good for you. Oh, boy. Is that what he said? Good for you.

That's my favorite clip, man. That's a great drop. We should have it. We should have it on here. So every time anybody says something they think is good, we can just click it and be like, oh, good for you. Yeah. All right.

Well, I think we've all gone through our list then, right guys? Yeah. I think that's it. Cool. All right. So, as always, we want to thank you for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at the Horror Returns at gmail.com.

And, you know, follow us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, pod bean, yada, yada, yada, all that stuff. Brian has us hooked up on, right? A Twitter book, Instagram. Absolutely. And we're all. always looking for iTunes reviews. I haven't seen any in the last, what, four or five weeks? What? Yeah. This is preposterous. So what's the deal, Philip? What happens? If somebody writes us an iTunes review and then

emails us their address, what's going to happen? Sounds like they're going to win something super cool. Maybe a Hort Retire's T-shirt! What do you think, Brian? Is that a good idea? That's a great idea. All right. So, we're going to do. We're just looking for those to come in. I know we sent a couple of t-shirts out last week, and we're waiting to send more out, and we're just... They're burning a hole in our pocket.

We can't wait to get these t-shirts out the door, right? Shit, I'll take them. You better take them, or I'm going to wear them off. So next week... Oh, I'm looking forward to this one, man. The Fate of the Furious. That's furious. I can't fucking wait.

I love these movies. they're always stupid, stupid fun. I bet it's going to be fast. Oh, hell yeah. I bet it's going to be furious. And what else? What else are we watching with it, Brian? Quentin Tarantino's death proof.

I'm actually more excited for that one. Oh, yeah? Looking forward to seeing that one again, huh? Yeah, that's a good one. And if I'm not mistaken, that was part of Grindrace, double feature. All right, I'll really watch both of them then. Yeah, well, I say that was one of my best movie experiences ever.

Nice. I was watching the double-feature grind house in the theaters. No shit. Super fun. They had all the fake trailers and the fake commercials. Oh, lots of Danny Trejo on bedding, right? Yeah, and then I had a theater packed of Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino fans, so it was a fun experience.

Awesome. That's what you're there for. All right, well, in that case, Brian, until the horror returns again. Good night. Thank you.