The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #454: Final Destination 3 (2006) & The Final Destination (2009)

Episode Date: February 7, 2025

Al Ramseur is back to talk some final destinations as our retrospective continues. Cool of the week includes Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man, Den of Thieves, Den of Thieves 2, and In Search of Darkness. Trailers are The Rule of Jenny Pen and Final Destination Bloodlines. The podcast spotlight shines on Finger Gunz Podcast. And we get feedback from Matt Wood, Mark Komarzynski, Michael Dane Blankenship, Bjorn van Lent, David Baldo, Steve Biko Nyambaka, and Paul Ragsdale. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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I'm Lance. With me, as always, we have our faithful co-host, Philip and Brian. And we are doing Final Destination Week again. So we got Al with us. What's up, Al? Hey, what's going on, guys? Yeah, man, I'm just ready

Jump into these movies And I got some pretty good Cool of the Weeks. All right. Oh, damn, I don't even think about Cool of Week. I'm not to think about that. You'll think of something. Oh, I will.

All right, Al. Thanks for coming back on, dude. Let's jump in. What's your Cool of the Week, Al? Cool of the Week, Al. Cool of the Weeks are, your neighbor your

your family neighbor hit Spider-Man on I guess Disney Plus. I really like that show. I've seen like about what like five episodes right now. And they're pretty cool. I mean, they're like actually, they're really great. And then

Cooler Week also was a Tooby movie, which was with Michael Jai White. something about grandma I can't remember the name but he's trying to protect his grandma they're trying to rob his grandma

Is it another Medea movie? Huh? It's not a Medea movie film It's not a Badae movie Phil If it's Michael Jai White He's kicking ass in that movie Yeah he's kicking ass in that motherfucker right You seen that Ryan huh?

I know what you're talking I haven't seen it but I know what you're talking about I can't think of the name either Yeah Yeah he's kicking ass I mean he knocked off about like fucking God damn, well, he wasn't, he didn't kill really nobody, but it's really like PG-13, but except for one kill, and that one kill was by a fucking dog. So, like, eh, it's not really killed.

It's, it's not spawn 3.0, is it? You said spawn 2.0? Nah, no, it's not spawn 2.0. All right. All right. And then my next, uh, cool of the week is going to be the Super Bowl. I mean, the chiefs are going to win. Okay. Well, that's what the officials say. Anybody but listen to the haters?

If you listen to the haters, right? No, I'm reading. It's going to be a win. I mean, I mean, I hope it's going to be a good game. I know it's going to be a good game, but I hope so. I know the cheats are to win, but. I hope it's not. I hope the Eagles get beat beyond their wildest dreams.

be amazing. Anybody bit the Eagles. I'm not care. He's a Carolina. He's a, he's a Cowboys friend. Yeah, no,

I was, I was going for Washington. I understand that. Okay. I just want to see, I just want to see, honestly, like,

I want to see like, uh, let him get the three Pete. Fuck it. I mean, he's already been fucking good. Let's him be great. You know what I'm saying?

I, sure. The best quarterback to play the fucking game. We're watching him in his prime right now. definitely we're gonna look back on this day in 20 years from now and go damn he was the goat I got you yeah yeah I mean I but I see top Brady this fucking promise top radio is fucking kind of ridiculous yeah he was kind of ridiculous I got you though go ahead my bad bro I'll let you guys go first because I'm still thinking

I think, I think I think that was it. I think that was it for my, um, my, uh, my, my, my,

uh, my, my, uh, my, my, friend of the new heart Spider-Man, Sprang number of Spider-Man and then, um,

granny, protect Granny, whatever the, whatever that movie was for Tobe. And then, uh, we're gonna, we're gonna go with Spider-Man then.

That's the one of the title. We're going, we're going, it's called, it's called your friend of Spider-Man. Okay. Yeah, let's call your Freight Name with Spider-Man. All right.

I'll get mine over with quick. I saw a Den of Thieves, too, which I thought I was going to hate. Have you seen this one yet? Why don't you think he was going to have to? Oh, actually, I watched that, bro. And that was pretty decent. Yeah, it was. It was like an international heist movie, man.

I saw the first one. That's going to be Michael of the week, actually. How about that? Oh, okay, cool. Cool. So we got a theme going on. No, the first one, I was, like, super underwhelmed. Like, that one battle, where they were, like, shooting each other across fucking civilians' cars and shit like that.

I was like, this is stupid, you know? But, no, this one was great. It was like an international diamond heist, you know, and they're robbing the federal building of diamonds. What could go wrong, right? I loved it. It was, like, edgy your seat. It was a two-and-a-half-hour fucking movie. I don't know if it needed to be two-and-a-half hours, but it was fun to watch.

I guess it had to be the long though. I agree, but I enjoyed all the different, you know, international locales. I'll always love watching Ice Cube Jr. Still think they should have redone Friday, rebooted it, but too late for that. He's too fat. He doesn't own it. Ice Cube doesn't own it. Wow.

What happened? What happened, Brian? Can you guys hear him? What do you mean? What is that? He doesn't own it? He doesn't own it. He doesn't own the what?

That's why he ain't made another one. He doesn't own the movie. I wish somebody would, Brian. Yeah, they need to make a new one. But, I mean, even, like, number two with Mike Epps, shit, you can just fucking run that back two more times. I mean, you made already one more. Right.

You can run back Mike Epps. Then you get the one with... You get the one with Sam. Santa Claus in it. Remember that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's number three. Yeah, that's number three. I don't even know if I'm watching that one. That's a good one, though, too. Also, that's actually a funny one.

When he ran the fucking goddamn dude over, he's like, goddap it, that fuck you're doing over here again. The hell. Yeah, that's a good one, bro. All right, Denna Thieves, too. So, Philip, yours is Den of Thieves? Yeah, so I watched that. the first dinner thieves i've watched a bunch of other shit too but i can't really think of anything

because i've gotten stuck off in neverland like i've been watching some weird shit uh one of one of them is uh inkmaster been getting caught back up on that and uh and i it's still a fun show man like even with the the new host and uh the guy from good charlotte is uh is hosting it and they have some different judges like the reactions of the people that are getting tattoos when the judges come in and they're conversating and basically that got fucked out. I know. Like, how would you feel there?

Well, and then there's some of them. And like, I start to think, like, this one lady comes in and they're like, okay, well, I want to change your thing to something completely different. And she's like, no, that's not what I want. And I'm like, what a bitch. But, like, if I was getting a tag. tattoo. It's your body. I probably want you to put what the fuck I want on it. No shit. No shit. That and then some some wild ass woodworking videos on YouTube. Yeah, this guy, John Mellecki, he's got a great channel. He does, he played for the Steelers for like a year, and he's like this woodworking guy. And they've got this YouTube algorithm figured out.

because they're entertaining uh like i watched a an hour long video they bought every fucking power drill on the market oh wow screwed them together with the chuck and just let the drills fight each other to see who comes out on top hey phil hey phil all i watch on youtube bro is like um Rogan and then like Giants and then like ancient astronaut type shit that's why I watch on YouTube

bro I get some good stuff too I don't even know how I how I fell across the channel but like I clicked on it because it seems so ridiculous the like this drill fighting thing and I watched the entire thing and I was like

glued to the screen and you say drill fighter you're talking about like like the like the uh like the uh like the robot show that used to be on fucking like um yeah kind of they they uh yeah you don't talk about i was about to say it but i i could i couldn't fucking figure i could remember the name but okay go ahead yeah they tape the batteries to it zip tie the triggers and then just let the drills bounce around in this little arena that they built for it until one of them breaks yeah battle bots yeah battle bots

But with power drills. Milwaukee comes out on top. Hell yeah. That's my brand. That's all I can think of at the moment. I'm sure I'll think of something else halfway through the show. Okay. So what takes the cake just didn't a Thieves won, huh?

Yeah, I guess so. I mean, that was a pretty solid movie. I was, I was impressed. I was kind of surprised I haven't watched it yet. I was like, damn, there's a lot of people in this. And it's like a pretty solid movie. Right. Anything, anything kind of like with Gerard Butler right now?

I'm on like kind of a kick. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He sucks like a good, like, action actor right now. Like, yeah. I'll take everything out with him, dude. He's a badass in this movie. It looks like he, like, hit his prime in the 90s and then just kind of never got out of it.

Yes. That's his character in this movie. All right. I expect him to wear like some bedazzled jeans or something. That's his character in this fucking movie, dude. That's a great point. At least he didn't go full Russell Crow and gain 400 pounds, right? Yeah, that's true.

All right. Oh, I did actually also watch Gladiator 2. Not as good as the first one, but very entertaining. some cool little history points. I like the Marcus Aurelius angle. I enjoy it. I like that fucking goddamn Denzel can't fucking goddamn change

this fucking voice from a fucking goddamn Brazil, uh, Brooklyn motherfucker to a fucking goddamn a rowman. I like that. I like that. I know he's supposed to be like weird Roman and kind of free.

Yeah. He's not too. He can't change his voice for nothing, bro. Okay. But that was cool, though. But that was still a good movie. I like how, I like how the movie. And, yeah, I like how the movie went through it.

I mean, the movie was like, it actually wasn't bad. It really wasn't bad. Yeah, it was solid. I don't think they went into as much like development and real story as the first one did. But, uh, but it was still, it was still entertaining to watch. It was still entertaining, definitely. Yeah, I don't like how you fucking. Yeah.

Yeah. That's the only point. that's the one point that that got me but uh i mean like even the dude that was supposed to be like the new uh barks the release he was okay he was okay he wasn't he wasn't he's an irish dude in real life i think he's an irish actor so it's not wrong with that my best friend is irish so it's not wrong with that hey there you go all right brian what you got I'm looking to see. I didn't watch a whole lot.

Uh-oh. Watch the Royal Rumble on Lance. You were asking me if I was watching it when it was on. Who on? Not anybody that the crowd wanted. Okay. I wanted John Cena. I bet $100 against my brother.

He's still wrestling. And we didn't even know that scene was going to be in it. Then he popped up. That was... I was that close. This is his final. The fair. well tour this year

wrestling so that that's who the crowd was behind and he came in second I was going to say man John Cena's getting up there like you put him an undertaker and fucking Goldberg

Holt Hogan all in the ring it's just this geriatric wrestling like one of the trailers we're going to see tonight yeah and then controversy in the women's rumble.

Crowd did not want that. It was Charlotte Flair, Rick Flair's daughter. Oh, boy. Uh-oh. Completely booed her when she won. But we'll get in all that, me and Ness, on the wrestling returns. I'll be her back. I spilled a beer.

Y'all continue. Yeah. I think the only thing I watched on here was a new horror documentary called In Search of Darkness, 1994. All right, no, no, no, no, you're good. No, they're good, you're good. Keep going. I'm listening to you. I remember the original In Search of Darkness.

That was quite a while ago, though, right? Like five, six, ten years ago or something like that? I think like four years ago, we know. So I don't think it was ten years ago. Wasn't that long? Okay, well. So what was this one about? What movies were they talking about in this one, Brian? the first couple I remember were the

Leatherface Texas chainsaw Masker 3 Great movie Usual I think it's the first part because It only goes from 90 to 94 so I think they're going to do the rest of the decade in installments Okay make make sense because in our year What is it? Are you in horror? We're in the early 90s right now, right, Brian?

I think we're in 92. Sounds about right, yeah? So we're getting into that 90s stuff. A lot of people say the 90s is a dead zone for horror. I disagree. There are no dead ones. I disagree wholeheartedly, dude. Horheartedly.

Yeah, watching this documentary, I think it shows. It's a long documentary. You have to watch it and stall minutes, like six hours. Jesus Christ Okay Yeah that's like But they They cover so many

Great horror movies from the 90s Like yeah I agree with how Like calling it a dead zone Dead time for horror Yeah There's there's some Unappreciated gems in the 90s Oh Kenny man

Trammers was good Fucking goddamn They keep on naming them Um Even uh What's the one Clyde Barker movie, that was what, he was like in, like, a graveyard or something.

Oh, Nightbreed? Yes. That was a good movie, too. Was Trimmers' 90s? Yeah, I think 1990. I think 1990, exactly. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, Chilin is definitely 1990. Speaking of, speaking of Nightbreed, we got a fucking kick-ass Horror Returns T-shirt guys on the T-Public

page if you want to go look at it. Go to www. www.thehorrorreturns.com. buy one of those fucking nightbreed t-shirts because Steve fucking kicked ass on that one. Have you, have you seen those shirts Steve has done now? No, I haven't seen them, but I might need you to send me a read new tank talk type tea

thing or whatever because I think I lost mine. All right, message me. Hey, message me and I'll send you a link and you pick out your shirt. How about that? Yeah, I should, brother. Thank you. We'll make it happen. All right. Yeah, we got some good designs, man. So many.

And then another cool little week. Can I, can I get one more cool little week? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've been drinking all day, dude. Oh, oh, right? Now we know what I'm good. Another cool that week is a new fantastic Ford trailer that I fucking seen.

I haven't seen it yet. I want to watch that. I want to watch that. And I want to watch Captain America, Brave New Day. I want to watch both of the. those movies. I mean, Marvel. Just a few more weeks for that one. They, uh, I don't know, man.

They just make good movies. I mean, like, they're better than the, um, the Spider-Man MCUs or whatever, but they're just good movies, you know? Sure. Like, which one has been a miss? Which one has been a miss? There were a few misses, right? All of them over the past three or four years.

Not all. of them. There were some good ones. You got a little of the musical number. Aside from like Guardians of the Galaxy, they've all kind of smart. Well, true. Besides the Missing motherfucker, though, bro.

What the fuck? But yeah, I mean, a couple of been there missed, but I mean, like, I want to see this one. I want to see this one. I want to see Fantastic Four. I do, too. Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, Marvel has some good stuff. And I want to watch this one, too, also. So is the Fantastic Four one?

Is that a Marvel? movie? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Is it retro? I haven't seen the trailer. I don't know if you have, Brian, but is it retro? retro futuristic. How is they going to fit into that? Brian? This is different.

It looks good. It looks fucking good. It looks fucking kind of amazing almost. You know, but you know, we can't fucking talking too soon, though, and talk to systems, but we'll just watch it. I'd be up for that

it'd be nice to have a good Fantastic Four movie Yeah There haven't been many Or any I mean Although Still hard to beat Jessica Alba Well

But the movies kind of sucked Yeah no it was awful But she was a bright spot Yeah Yeah I'd like to hear that Yeah yeah She's pretty hard to beat.

What the fuck? Some fucking amazing looking shit. So is that it, Brian? Insert your darkness then? Yep. All right. So on to horror headlines. Brought to you by Brian.

Take it away, man. Let's see. The Creek tapes renewed for a second season. How many episodes are in that? I'm not caught up, but I think it has to be at least eight or ten.

Okay. I only watched the first like two or three, and then I kind of lost track of it. Yeah. I think I was waiting too, I think. I think I was waiting for them because they were coming out weekly, so I think I was waiting for them to all drop and just binge it because they're like 20, 30 minutes long.

Yeah, I was going to say they went by pretty quick. So, yeah, I'm excited about that. I'll have to check that one out again. Let's see. Umah Thurman joins the cast of Dexter Resurrection. Oh, no, we don't want no more dextery, boo. I'm being straight up. I'm being straight up.

We don't want no more dexterity, dude. Yeah, they're kind of dextering out right now, aren't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, how many of you in the fucking make, dude? The fuck. They did a Sopranos prequel or something. They did, didn't it? did they? As long as I got a kid in there, what?

You got his son in there or whatever? My bad, Brian. Sorry about that, sir. It's all good. Let's see. Jake Jelenhal set to star in M. Night Shyamalan's new movie, which will be based off a Nicholas Sparks romantic thriller. I don't know what that means. That sounds whack, too.

This guy, man. This fucking guy. That sounds whack, too. Oh, yeah. I'm Jake Jeeleyn. Holland Hall is talented enough, right? I mean, he's still been in some stakers. That's fucking, like, that's like

dime store, like love fucking books. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, fuck that. Oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't even know who that was. Lance probably read at least a few of them. Probably, probably. I've never heard that name before my life.

He did that. He did the notebook, didn't he? I did read the notebook. Yes, I did read the notebook. I admit. Hey, that was a bestseller. Come on. It's a good movie. Confession. I've never seen the notebook. I've never seen a little bit either, myself. You're not missing too much, Brian.

Yeah, I mean, it's like Uber chick flick. But it's quite. Oh, hell, no, dude. What else we got here? Robert Rodriguez is producing a remake to the faculty, which he directed. Okay. I can get behind that.

That sounds pretty cool. I can deal with that. Now, that sounds pretty cool. Yeah, I think we talked about this one a while ago. Lance, I think we got some feedback on this. The sadness director Rob Jabaz said to direct Garth Ennis's crossed. Which makes perfect sense.

Nez and I both thought that the sadness was crossed. We literally thought it was the film version of Crossed. Ness and I both thought that. So they ropedop this, man. Basically, if you've seen, if you've never read Cross, then you've seen the sadness, you know what to expect in the Cross. Yeah. So that's no surprise.

Here's another cool of the week, big George Foreman. There you go. All right. What did you do? You knock somebody out. There you can't. You punched. Did you?

My bad, Brian, can I interject real quick? Did you watch Nostarra? And what did you think about it? I think that, I mean, it's kind of like slow. Yeah, definitely slow. Movies crap. He said movies crap.

I like it. I had a good time with it. It's very slow. It's well acted. It looks good. That's why I have to compare it to a polished her, because at the end of the day, It's not real. They polished it, stained it up, and put it on your plate. It can't be with Dracula from 1992.

It can't beat that movie. No. That's Dracula, right, from 1992? Yeah. I think it's every bit as good as Dracula. No, I don't think so. My friend, you are a crazy man. So, Philip, you liked it.

You liked it. I did, man. it's one of the very few movies that Brian and I disagree on. Okay. And your score, your score was high up there, too. Yeah, like an eight or something.

Yeah. Jesus Christ. Heretic was like a seven. Heretic was like a seven. Was like a seven, a slow burn, but you know, you know,

and then when they finally come back in. Yeah, I've seen it three times now. Eric. Yeah, I gave it 9.5, Al, I loved it. God damn, dude, that's a lot.

Yeah. I was happy with that one, too. That was a good movie. Let's see. Here it's like the seven. And then when they came back in and didn't, that's fair. And came back and fucking came back and killed this dude.

I was like, oh, shit. Okay. Okay. Now we got something going now. When I was talking, that's what up. It was definitely, it was definitely, it was dialogue heavy. Right now?

Yeah, definitely. Talky, talkie. Yeah. They'll definitely talk. They're heavy. And then, like, and then the two actresses,

they're actually really good. I mean, they're actually really, like, showed out in the movie. And then you got Hugh Grant. I mean, you know, that's nostalgia. And so that was really. Yeah. He's been around the new Hugh Grant, man.

like everything he's in, he just eats up scenery. Yeah, he ate it up. Yeah. Kind of like, what's his name, Dan Stevens, Brian? Yeah. Or is he that the scenery? Put Dan Stevens and Hugh Grant in a movie together with like fucking Brad Pitt or something. I think Dan Stevens is dead.

Yeah. Oh, man, that would be perfect. I think he's dead though, bro. That might be one too many cooks in the kitchen, but we'll see. He said that, bro. He did. Didn't he play, what was the,

God damn it. All right. Go ahead. I'm sorry about that. I'll come back to it. I'll come back to it. I'm talking about Judge Gregg. Judge Dred.

Didn't he play Judge Dredd in a movie? What? Hugh Grant? No, no, no. No, no. No, Stephen. No. That's not me being Stephen.

Stallone and Carl, than Carl Urban. Oh man, Carl Urban killed it in fucking the second Judge Dredd, bro. I want to see Hugh Grant as Judge Dredd now. That sounds amazing. You don't want to fucking see that. I am the law. Oh, really?

I'm the law. You thought you were the law, but you know. Okay, what else we got? Sidney Sweeney in talks to star in Edgar Allan Pose in the mask of the red death

I don't know the story I'm all in especially if she gets naked well gotta show off the assets okay beautiful girl back down to her for us

Academy Follfok movie's spoiler alert Academy Award winner Kehoe Kuan is set to star in a K-9 horror movie called Baddhawk A K-9 Jok.

Yeah, I was going to say K-9 K-9-K-J-2? What are we talking about here? What did he win an academy award in? Everything, everywhere, all they want. Oh, okay. Oh, okay.

He was a short round and data from the movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I like him a lot. Okay, I didn't recognize it. Yeah, I want to see the new movies got coming out. Love Hertz. It's kind of like a John Wick type movie. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that looks cool. Or Sean Lynch is one of the henchmen. I want to see this movie with Kay Finn Wilfart that he's directing or whatever he's doing. I want to see that movie. I watch the trailer that you guys put up. actually it's really good seriously looks really decent like it actually looks really decent

and I want to watch that movie it'll be interesting to see what he can do man we might be watching the beginning of greatness or he could fall on his face but whatever and I guess the only big well real quick Lance you had sent me this link

it's happening toxic Avenger gets an August 29th theatrical release date. All right. Are you down now? You ready for a midget, toxic avenger? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah. I mean, um, did you see, um, what's his name again? But he's always in a, Dillinger, Pete Dillinger or something like this. Peter Dinklage. Peter Dinklage.

Yeah. And he, he's been in, he's been in the movie on Tobey, bro. did you just just move with him and he was like a like an outside lawman dude like in the in the old west I mean like

I'm down watching if you're not watching Tobe bro you're fucking sleeping on shit dude because Tubeby has great movies and the lot of shit and the Super Bowl really? Yeah on TV

and the Super Bowl that's what I'm watching it on all right I'll watch it on 2B just because you know he has he had a really great fucking western movie and it was a what was your name uh funk um gonna go ahead and say um we do this we do this all the time al so don't worry we do this all the fucking time you know that guy that chick that guy um dickledge is a great actor he's a fucking moron but he's a

great actor yeah yeah i know A Winona Ryder. Your name. Ah, Winona Ryder. Classic. One of Nez's girls. Yep. And Garrett Collin's, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yep. All right, Brian. We're moving on. Check the movie out, though. If you can find it, and then check this movie out, too, with Michael Gry White. Dude, that fucking movie's fucking funny.

It's fucking cool. And he fucking goes through them, like, crazy. I mean, Brian already watched it, obviously. But it's pretty good movie, though, dude. Michael Jai White and Medea is my grandma. Yeah, Michael Jai White, not Michael Jack White. Not your grandma, Michael Jack White. Michael Jai White.

All right, the big news of the week was we got some casting news for Scream 7. Okay. Scott Foley, who played Ghost face in Screen 3 and Matthew Lillard of course from Screen 1 returning

bringing back big dogs they gotta do something because I'm kind of lost on this movie and buried in the announcements Ethan Embry joins the cast too but nobody cared friend of the show like Ethan Embry yeah but when you kind of get announced

with Screen 1 and Screen 3's Ghostface returning True. And then you announced Ethan Embry, everybody's kind of like, oh, that's cool. But didn't Ghostface and 3 die? How's that working? How did he?

How did he come back when he got his head smashed with a fucking goddamn TV? I'm going to call. He's a ghost like Skeet. I'm going to call it now. We're going to get Scott Foley in a flashback because he was the one that set up the first two ghost face and one. and then we're going to get

Matthew Lillard in now time No, but Matthew Litter got his head's ass with a TV He got a set of message He never said he died though I'm always a fan of Lillard I like that dude

Okay Although I'm not interested in this fucking movie at all to be honest No, not at all. Well, you're watching it, sir. Oh, yeah. I'm sure to watch it, but of course I'm going to watch it, though. Close him will watch it.

And that, that I think, was the biggest news. Everybody's confused about Scott Foley, but excited for Matthew Lillard. Okay. That's it. All right. All right, Al. You ready to go down to the trailer park with us? Yes, sir.

Score some myth. You ready out? We're going to the trailer park, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Take me to the trailer park. Oh, fucking, I mean, I'm from Florida. I'm from South Florida, bro. You're not doing from from close to next to where I'm at. So, go ahead. You don't even know about the trailer park. Yeah, you don't even know about that trailer park. Exactly. All right, Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the

very, very weird. What is the first new trailer tonight, Brian? The Rule of Jenny Penn, directed by James Ashcroat, starring John Lithgow and Jeffrey Rush.

Big names. I mean, I don't know what the hell of the movie's about, but John Lithgow and Jeffrey Rush? Let me see. Synopsis. Confined to a secluded Rust Home and trapped within a stroke-ridden body, a former judge must stop an elderly psychopath who employs a child's puppet

to abuse the home residence with deadly consequences. Okay, so John Lithgow is an insane person in this movie. That sounds perfect. Yeah, I mean, he was a serial killer in Dexter, so... Yeah, that's true. It's... I'm assuming Jeffrey Rush is the stroke-ridden... elderly person in this rest home yeah i mean well they got some talent you know how bad could it be i i did watch a trailer i did watch the trailer i did watch the trailer just as like a bunch of old people

doing like old people shit kind of like in a fucking like like you said uh fucking uh retirement home type shit like playing shuffleboard and shit yeah that's what i thought each other okay yeah do we do we need to do we do we really need a horrible i did watch your trailer like uh It just didn't. It just didn't appeal to me, personally, myself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We need a horror movie in an old folks home. I mean, come on. No. Yeah. Are we this desperate now? You just go, boo! And they have a heart attack. What other horror movies are?

What were a werewolf in this motherfucker, dude? We ain't watching it. What other elderly horror movies are there? The Wonder Werewolves. Late phases. Yeah. That's one. That's it.

Right? Yeah. I mean, there was an episode of that TV show poker face, the one with Natasha Leone in it. Now you're old folks on. The taking of Deborah Logan. That was a good one. Late faces was a good one. It was.

That was really old folks. Doing this shit. Taking off on fucking a guy down werewolf and taking off on the whole fucking neighborhood. Yeah, that was a good one, right? That was a good one right there. That's kind of rude. Like little retirement village. It sort of works.

Yeah. I guess. Probably in Florida. Based off the cast, I'll check it out alone. And I know this guy, the director, he's got another movie, another horror movie he's directing that I think is with Robert De Niro. Oh, okay. So he's pulling in some names. I mean, they're old, but.

I'm impressed De Niro can still fucking talk to be honest with you I mean yeah impressed he's still having a shoulder yeah or is he he's gonna forget that kid's name by his fifth birthday I know I know sad right that's sad that's sad when you fucking got to have a kid at fucking 75 and then a kid

fucking can't even see you fucking like get to 20 yeah that's that's crazy right right That's crazy. Agreed. All right. The rule of Jenny Penn comes out March 20th. And I think it's getting a shutter release. I think Shutter picked it up.

So I think after it hits theaters, it'll be on Shutter. Yeah, it wouldn't have grabbed my attention without the talent that they have in this. Agreed. Yeah. On to our next and final trailer. I did not plan this. It just happened to come out the same week we were doing this show. Final destination bloodlines.

Bloodlines. This killer is fucking crazy. Mm-hmm. So I wonder if this kid is like the son of somebody who was supposed to have died. That's, I think, is the synopsis. They said they were doing something new with this one, and it looks like somebody cheated death

and survived and had family that was never supposed to exist. I don't want to talk too soon on what we're going to talk about here in the next fucking 20 minutes or whatever, whatever. But like, this trailer was fucking crazy. Like, God damn, dude, you showed us a whole fucking goddamn first death scene? Okay. Yeah, that's true. That's got a cool way to do it, though. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be more.

That's kind of what these movies are, is like creative kills. That's all they're about. Yeah. And tension. And so they kind of ran through one of those classic Final Destination scenes. I just got the nose ring and stuff. I think it works because it kind of keeps hush, hush on the fly. Go ahead.

My bad, Brian. Go ahead, Brian. Go ahead and finish my bad, bro. I'll talk to you. I'll say in about two minutes after you finish. My bad, bro. It keeps the plot, the plots under wraps and shows you a death scene. I don't even want another trailer after this.

I was sold out. I was thinking the same thing. Yeah, I'm sold on this. I don't want to know what the setup is. Like, you've seen one death and that's enough. I was watching on my phone, so I didn't really get to see the detail. but I assume he's got like a septum piercing is that what they're doing here?

Yeah, and it hooked them out. Had that shit coming. It's like a connector set. It's like a connector set of fucking goddamn death, dude. That's how all these movies are. Connector sets to death. I mean, I don't even know if that's a fucking proper word, but I think that's what it is, though.

Right, right. No, fuck, a connector set to death should just be pinging, pinging, bob, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bop. clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. And then the motherfucker would just die. Oh, okay. Oh, this is a movie.

Okay, I got you. Kind of like Peewee Herman's cereal machine from his, uh, Peewee Herman's big adventure movie, right? Yeah, shit just, uh, let me just fucking hit the ball, push it here. It's shit jumps here, here, here, here, here. It is.

And it goes back fucking ten times ways and they come back and, and now this motherfucker's dead. Okay. Death is a fan of mousetrap. Who would have thunk? Yeah, it's a mouse trap, dude. It's a mousetrap, Phil. It's a fucking mousetrap, Phil.

That's why I said, Connector said, I mean, I really didn't know the word, because I know there's a word for it, but I can't. Rube Goldberg. That's what you're looking for. There you go. You got it. Yeah, you got it. Yeah, you got it. Yeah. Connector said.

Yeah, yeah, Kinecta say. I mean, how bad? How bad can it be? The fuck? I know it was good enough for, this was supposed to go originally straight to streaming. Uh-huh. But they were impressed with how the movie came out. Now it's going to start the theater.

That's a good sign. Yeah. I mean, May 16th is the release date. So not too long from now. I'm kind of amazed there's not more Final Destination movies. It's very formulated, very formulating. it very formulaic, very easy

to make, like, crank these suckers out, they don't get old. I'm surprised there hasn't been one in the past 10 years. Yeah. It's been that long. Wow. Okay. Wow. And they're so good.

I mean, like, even the final, I mean, I like three better than 10 or whatever the final destination was, but like, I'm surprised there hasn't been more either. Pump them out.

Yeah. Keep them going. You know? Yeah. Keep them going. All right. That's the final trailer. Where we're in?

All right. Moving on to listener feedback. This week we shine the podcast. Spotlight on Fingerguns podcast. I kept thinking. Brian said that, like, I kept thinking, finger blasters. Uh-oh.

That's a whole different thing. That's a different show. All right. Three brothers discussing all things films. Lots of reviews and industry interviews. Check out the Finger Guns podcast. I like the name. In regards to get away.

Matt Wood says, best of the year so far, for me anyway. Get away. I don't know. I haven't seen that one. Right. Yeah. Yeah, well, I think as the newest movies, I guess it would be in my best list. Okay.

Because the only newer movie I've seen is... What do you think about... I didn't see Wolfman. I haven't seen Wolfman. What do you think about the one with Chenning Tatum and the Black Chick? What do you think about that one? You think that blink twice? from last year

that was from last year brother yeah I thought Zoe Krabs did an excellent job directing yeah it was all on our honorable mansions I think for the most part right yeah yeah it was in Petra's top 10 I remember that kept that original name pussy Ireland

oh like a what maybe that'll get a sequel I guess that'd be hard to market Yeah. I didn't know that, though. Maybe not.

Okay. I don't know. I'd have definitely watched it with that name. That's pretty good movie, though. I liked it. I really liked it. I really liked it. I mean, like, um,

super original, right? These guys, these guys were fucking, uh, just like drugging his women and just taking advantage of them. Spoiler. Yeah, it's too new, man. We don't want to spoil the whole movie yet, Al.

Because if you haven't seen it, you've got to go in blind, right? Wouldn't you say? Yeah. Yeah. Because it's a, it's a movie that you can't go in eyes open with. Yeah, yeah. I haven't watched it. I think so.

I think so. Yeah. It's a trip, dude. It's bizarre. Yeah, it's a trip. It is a trip. All right. Speaking of trip, we got the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2.

All right. Going down to Texas Yeho Get some of that Chill it Oh Mark Mark Komar Zensky says

That skin mask Just to scare me When I was a kid Back in 86 I remember They had a big poster On the bus stop glass Where I lived at the time

When the film was in theaters And I'd ride my bike by it And was fascinated Then you realize It's basically a black comedy And to me The original is more intense Even if it's kind of crude

compared to the second. I do like both of them though. Me too. For different reasons. I like the second one better, though. I like to shout out Mark real quick. He contributes a lot of comments to our Facebook page. I appreciate you, Mark. Yeah, I had more fun with the second one.

But yeah, the first one was a more serious movie. It's like alien and aliens. You like them for different reasons. Oh, great analogy, man. Great. analogy. In regards to... It's like...

It's like Final Destiny 3 and Final Destination. This movie are two way different movies. They're two different movies, bro. Exactly. But I got to do... True. They are. We'll get into that.

I hear you. Yeah, we're going to get into it. I hear, though. In regards to the upcoming film version of the graphic novel crossed. Michael Dane Blankenship says Nah, I'm good. I'll skip that movie. Bjorn Van Lent says probably the only comic I've ever stopped reading because of its disturbingly disgusting content.

Had to pour bleach into my eyes and get a lobotomy to delete the images. Well, I'm impressed you can still use a computer, my friend. I've heard, well, not the bleach in the eyes, but I've heard a lot of people, it was like, that's how disturbing the content was that they stopped reading it. Oh, what, what comic is this? Crossed.

Huh? Crossed? Yeah, because I think that's what that first comment is. The Michael Dane Blanketship said, I'm good. I'll skip that movie, I think, because of the disturbing content. Okay. And it was a little of Invincible just dropped today

and it's got three episodes right now. I'm fucking prime. Okay. Check that out. I mean, that might clear your eyes up a little bit. Okay. Right. Okay.

We used some puppies and shit after this one. Yeah. What the fuck? Oh, here you go. Nosferatu. David Baldo says the count who killed himself for a fuck and nothing more. That's the guy. Good point.

When you've lived for a... eternity. That's what you have to look for. Don't worry about, bro. Steve Biko Nyambaka says Not scary, not scary drama, not horror. O'Lock looks like Charlie Chaplin. The mustache

was a choice. Yeah. But it wasn't really a Charlie Chaplin mustache. Or let's be real, a Hitler mustache. It was an Eastern European Sure Did he have a can do? Was he dancing when he had a cane dude? I mean, I mean Oh, that would have been fantastic.

Do a little dance. And we got a message from Paul Ragsdale, director of only fangs and murder size. We'd love to come on your show. we'd love to come on your show for an interview. So let's 100% make that happen. Yeah, we are. Next week.

Let them up. Next week. Line them up. There you go. Who's in with me? Brian, are you in this time? I got to check the schedule, possibly. All right.

All right. Phil, you in? Yeah, I mean, depends on when it is, but yeah. Okay. Yeah, well, it's going to be later because he said after 5 p.m. Pacific on a week. night. Okay, cool. Yeah, I'm probably down. P.m.

All right, cool. Line them up. Line them up, man. Put them on the fucking show. He can come on. Why not? Interviews are good, right? Thirty minutes. He can make it work. What a great name for a movie, Only Fangs. I know. I know. So fucking original, right?

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All right On to feature attractions This week we check out a few more entries In the Final Destination franchise I don't know how many of them are There are but we're up to four Final Destination 3 We'll start with from 2006

The ones who got off that roller coaster are still going to die unless we can figure out how to stop it I thought I could see my old death before it happened. Wendy Christensen Wendy Wendy Christensen

and a group of teens who escaped a fatal roller coaster crash face a bloody date with death. Director is James Wong, also known for the X-Files. Writer is James Wong with Jeffrey Reddick and Glenn Morgan.

The cast members on the roller coaster had to ride it 26 times on the same night in order to shoot the film's main premonition scene. That doesn't sound awful. Yeah, I think I've seen a behind-the-scenes video on it and I think a lot of them were getting sick.

I'm sure. I've been to six flags a few times a few times when there was like nobody there and we got to just like get off the roller coaster, run back in line, and get right back on it. It was awesome. That is the best.

Like five or six times in a row. Yep. Al, would you think about Final Destination 3? Oh, this is my favorite Final Destination movie, honestly. Really? I mean, this one I mean, Funnel Destination 3D. And then, I mean, just the hard cut story, that's kind of kill for me. and then just to see that like

the kills I mean I mean they got great kills this fucking movie let's be honest they got great kills this movie and there's just like I don't know there's just a good movie like I love it I love it

fun of this nation one is the best of course I was going to be the best but three is like it's perfect I mean the two chicks in the fucking goddamn the salon that get burned up or whatever. Oh, yeah.

That was a fun. And then Freddie fingers coming right behind them, fucking get in his head, fucking knocked off. Right, right? Yeah, it's a good movie. And I love this movie. I love this movie, like, wholeheartedly. And I don't know if it's iconic,

as iconic as the logging truck scene. That one always gets me. No, it's not a kind of against that. But we'll talk about the next movie when the fucking guy gets his asshole sucked out of a fucking goddamn little.

The pool? We'll get to it, Al. We'll get to it. Yeah, we'll get to it. Well, that's not as iconic as that. But it's not as iconic as number two when there does i mean that like like my even my i was talking to my home guy i was like i was gonna

i'll turn to my old corer i was like um yeah i'm gonna be on podcast uh she's like well um are you talking about the movie that uh uh uh you know made people like spoil fucking like 25 year old to 30 years or from this time in this age i was like yep i mean nope i wasn't really but but I know what she's talking about though but that shit was that shit fucked us to fuck up I know that fucking for sure yo

I would never want to drive beyond a fucking goddamn log car what the fuck you're talking about yeah that shit fucking oh hell no I think about it every time I'm on the road behind one of those trucks yeah

makes sense she was like oh you're talking she told me she's like and then like for some for her to fucking come out here and tell me oh you're thinking about this

yeah no I ain't doing that yeah I'm not going to be in this fucking car no hell no oh hell no I'm good I'm a mess on that motherfucker yo I never do it because of that fucking move but it's nothing we were

talking about and then and then and then and then listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen And then didn't a fucking old lady just fucking passed away on a fucking goddamn on a fucking roller coaster because what, she came out the fucking goddamn cart? You mean for real?

Texas? Yeah, yeah, for real. It was a couple of years ago, man, at six legs. No, no, no, that was like three weeks ago, bro. What? Oh, no, I didn't hear that. And that's not no bullshit. But all right.

She flew out of the roller coaster? If you didn't see it, it's okay. But it's all right. I'll look for that. I'll look for that for sure. Yeah. Like in Gremlins, when that lady gets locked off of the stairs seat.

They said that she was so big that she couldn't lock in her fucking seat. And then she fucking fell out the fucking goddamn. Welcome to America, huh? We're too fucking fat. You wouldn't want to be fat phobic or anything. Just let her die. All right. Brian,

would you think about this one? That's crazy. That's crazy. And then there's another one. I got one more, I got one more. I'm going. I'm fucking riffing right now, dude.

I'm going. I got one more. All right. What about the kid in Ohio that got his head cut off? Because he was on a fucking goddamn water sloth. What? What? Like?

Okay, I did hear about that, Al. I did hear about that. Is that a real thing? That has been a few years. Yeah, no, that's real. That's real. He got his head cut off. Yep.

Yeah, he was too high up and. And it came off? Yep. I mean, it's not funny, bro. It's not funny, though. Did it finish rolling down the water slide and, like, spill out? It's not funny at all with little children. I mean like, it's funny, but I notice it.

It's not funny, but it is. Oh, it's, it's hilarious. It's a very dark joke. It's a very dark joke. It's a very dark joke, dude. Look, we're all going to die. We're all going to die one day. And if you think you're not, you're fooling yourself, right?

May as well go out with the bang, you know? Let me tell you about the rest of this movie real quick. We're still going, Brian. Fucking, that's the shit that they go through. And then just her knowing everything and, like, being everywhere, like, at all times. And then the final, when knocks off her, her sister's friends or whatever, whatever, that was cool. I like that. And then he just happens at being.

on a train in New York or Boston or whatever that was. Okay. Okay. Well, oh yeah, the ending. Deaf those were to find you, right? There was a plan.

It all comes together. Four apart. Like that guy's head. Brian, what do you think? Okay. Not my favorite out of the three so far that we talked about. I would have to put this at third.

I mean, it does get extra points for Mary Elizabeth Winstead being in it. I love her and almost everything she is. I like that, yep. But I thought it was a great idea to use the roller coaster, but the deaths on the roller coaster were weak. Majority of people just fell off. Yeah. They kind of were.

That's good point. Could have been better. More smashing and like limbs falling apart and stuff. but when we got into the kills for the cast throughout the movie, I thought they were pretty cool. Al mentioned the one in the tanning salon. Great shot. I don't know why I thought it was funny,

but the overhead shot of both tanning beds burning, and then it just cuts to both their caskets. Yeah. I thought that was great. Give me a second. Give me a second, Brian. My bad, bro. I don't mean to talk with your brother,

but the way that they took the pictures and that they set every death up that way yeah it's nice yeah that was cool that was pretty cool yeah that lost me a little bit but i'll get to i'll get into that later but uh i see what you're saying i mean it was original right it was a twist yeah it's a twist it's different it was a twist it was a twist but i just i don't like how it keeps changing. Yes. Movies. Because then...

Yeah. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. After this, it doesn't... The clues don't show up in pictures after this. Right. No one.

Not at all. Nope. And what other death scenes? I thought the one... The one of the gym with the one actor who has a great... name, Texas

Battle. The guy that gets his head crushed. It's a young black kid that gets his head smashed. Yeah. His real name is Texas Battle. That's pretty awesome. I thought most of the

kills were decent and I did like the wrap around how they all coincidentally met up in the train. But again, just like the beginning. I thought they ending was pretty weak. Okay. Well, but at least they did sort of tie it up.

Yeah. Yeah. Lance, what do you think? Yeah, this movie completely pull me in from the beginning because I'm a super, I don't know if you guys know this or not, but I'm a super roller coaster enthusiast. I'm a super amusement park enthusiast. Huh? Thought of you when I watch this as much as you go.

you go. Absolutely, dude. I fucking love this shit. I love it. And then you walk up to the big evil look at roller coaster with the demon in front and it's Tony Todd's voice. Yeah, it's Tony Todd. Yeah. Real quick. I didn't realize that. I didn't mention it in the trailer. Tony Todd did film something for the new before he passed. Oh, okay, cool. I don't know if it's him in a movie or a voiceover or something, but he did do something. But he did do something. something for the new one. All right. Well, he also, you guys were talking about that final scene, that was definitely his voice that said, Final Destination or Final Stop, right? So, anyway, you got to love that.

So I'm like, I don't know, like 10 minutes into the movie, right, where they did the lead up and then they're getting the roller coaster. And I'm like, this is going to be my favorite Final Destination movie ever. And then they get to where they get to the second kill, which you guys were talking about, was the two chicks that are in the tanning salon. And I'm like, wow, this is really fucking awesome. You got titties, you get fire, you got all this cool shit. But after that, it kind of started losing me, guys. When you got into that shit with all the pictures and crap like that that did not tie into the Final Destination mythology at all.

And it's like, if this was the case, why weren't they showing this all along? why don't they do it in the other movies? And at that point, to me, the script got kind of silly. But just for the fact that it was a roller coaster, and just for the fact that you had Tony Todd's voice, and just for the fact that you had that early kill scene, like the first third of the movie, the first act to me would have been like a nine-on-ten.

But it started going downhill for me after that. And I don't know if they could have saved it or done something different to make me happier. and I don't know if I'm just being you know picky but yeah the picture thing really threw me off yeah you're right Lance because

with the what's what's the character's name Frankie cheeks the little horny guy Frankie cheeks yeah oh god I mean why are they at this is not

they're at the location of his death but they don't look at the picture until after he dies yeah are they there yeah it fell it fell apart for me but at the end of the day it's a final destination movie they had some great riggoberg kills i had fun but it wasn't the best and that's that's what i'll say okay

well that sounds pretty reasonable um i think the fuck is that oh that's my my bad brother my my my core was calling me brother my sorry about that are we in nintendo world now. It's a me, Mario. It's a me. It's a Louis. Yeah. Honestly, like, I mean, it's a fun of destination movie. I mean, it's not really

meant to be taped like super seriously. True. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm not trying to overthink it, dude. It's not like an 824 movie. Oh, thank you. I mean, if you're looking in plot hole, if you're looking for plot holes in Final Destination, you're looking at the wrong thing. Looking for the wrong fucking thing, dude. Exactly.

I get it. I get it. But yeah, I had a pretty good time with this one. It's, uh, I don't think it's as good as the first two, but it is, it is a blast. I like the roller coaster idea. Uh, I'm glad that they went that route. Um, the, the main, the main girl. Um, this is, probably before she had really done anything.

She was like the most retarded motherfucker out the whole fucking goddamn, the movie, though, Honestly. What the fuck you're talking about? What the fuck you're talking about? But had she... I'm not to say that, but god damn. What is she talking about, bro? Had she done anything serious before this movie? I don't care.

I don't care. She was just stupid. She was just stupid in this movie. She did Scott. Ow. Scott Pilgrim. Oh, right. Was that before this?

Okay. No, she did sky high. Oh, sky high. Sky high. The kids that were superheroes? Yeah, this is like her fourth movie. Okay, sky high. Well, you know.

So this was like her first, like, adult main role. And I guess. And this was her first leading role. Yeah, that makes sense. Huh. I like her. She's hot. She's not bad looking at all that.

No, she doesn't look bad at all. No, she doesn't look bad at it. Oh, on eyes, no, hell not. But like, this movie, I mean, like, no, it just wasn't working. I mean, she was, I mean, but she still made the movie work. Right. But she just didn't make it work, work. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, we do. Totally get it. I think they took some different approaches to the lore in this one. Yes. Where they tried to add some things that maybe. didn't really belong. Yeah, and you don't really have to do that. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, these movies are just about creative kills and,

and, and the tension that it brings. Like, you don't have to put that much thought into it. Also, Phil, it was connected sets of, uh, death. Connected sets of death. Yes. Yeah. This is what's going on here. Yeah.

That's what we're going on here. That's what we're going on here. Yeah, connected sets of death. That's what we're going on here. And I mean like, and I don't fucking, I don't dislike them. You know, but I am. You know, I don't dislike him. I love him.

We get it. We get it. But I think the acting was, uh, was solid enough for a final destination movie. I, I think it was a pretty solid movie, you know, like, I think it was totally worth watching. Like, if you haven't, like, if you haven't gotten off into the weeds and final destination, movies. Like I said, I don't know how many of them there are exactly. But, uh, um, we're going to find out. Yeah, we're going to find out. And, and this one definitely was not one of the bad ones. So, okay. I'll, I'll take it for what it was. All right. Scores.

Al, what do you think? Um, going, I'm going to go seven, five. Nice. Five. Nice. Fun movie. Uh, Brian. Uh, I did like to. kills but story wise i just i agree with lance i think the the whole picture thing just kind of took me out of it and at times it didn't even make sense the placement of looking at the pictures and the timing of the deaths and stuff like that so i'm not they did sort of like give you um like a lead like a false lead in the pictures so you had to sort of decipher the red the red herring that was that was kind of funish true

I take a point down because I didn't really like those quick cuts that they'd be having for that for that F Final Destination 3D. I didn't really like those. So can I take a point down? So I'm going, I'm going six five now. Fuck that. Nope. That's it. I really don't like that, bro.

Yeah, I just, I didn't like the picture thing. And I know I hear what you're saying, Phil, but just like the end. when she's like talking to the guy and she's like the flash is going off in your face and he's like like a firework went off in my face and then he doesn't leave the fireworks i know he's still staying there the whole fucking ending like god damn dude like what the fuck like this is yeah you just brought it over here to like this whole simple serious easy way to fucking finish this fucking story right here right now no bro right no no no you could have done something better than this 4th of July celebration Betsy Ross and fucking George

Washington and all that bullshit oh oh what are you doing on what are you doing on the train right now what yeah but like I said there were right now oh okay they're worse okay there was me in Boston what are you doing on train right now okay go go ahead Brian there were some good desk like this the chick the chick that got the nail gun to the back of the head multiple times. Yeah, I'm not real sure that's the hardware guns right now.

No. The kid, the kid in the museum when she got straight through like a fucking goddamn spirit right through her fucking back and she got stabbed into the ground. That was a good one. Then and then...

Five out of ten. Five? He said five, five. He said five out of ten. Land. You can bring us up? Six. Six.

Yeah, I liked it more than I didn't like it. Would you agree, Al? Well, you said six and a half, Al, right? Well, I said... No, we're like it, Al. I like it, I like it. I like the movie. I like the movie, bro.

I like the movie. I mean, I'm just going to keep changing. I'm a solid, solid, solid six. I enjoyed it. But I did love it. Okay, fair enough. I liked it more. that I didn't like it.

Four and a half. Phil, you're the deciding vote. I'm just thinking I said the nail scene, but now you brought it up, Phil. How does it work like that? And now I'm remembering looking at it. The nails are coming from all different angles. I don't know if it even works like that. Definitely not, right?

So, that's all the fucking score. But that's okay. In all the ways that they've used. What you got to know, Brian? We got you, though, Brian. We're good. You're good, bro. And all the ways that they use mail guns in weapons and movies.

I think this one works. But, I mean, at that point, that was fucking perfect because, but it was talking that shit. He was talking shit. Right. And then, and then fucking his girlfriend fucking got hitting the head with fucking goddamn six nils. Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, bah, bah, bah. Okay. Okay.

And then he chose evil. and he wasn't a bad guy he was just a kid you know he wasn't a bad guy it was just a kid oh he's a bad guy he came showed up to kill him all because they were trying to warn him but he did come back to fucking try to kill him all don't fucking uh feel he did try that though uh i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i think six and a half is is a pretty good score for this one I had a pretty good time with it. Nothing big that I can say I didn't like about it. I mean, it was a solid final destination movie, you know?

Okay. It's nothing really sticks in my head like the first two. Like the name? But, yeah, but me, the, yeah. For me, it's the, um, the roller coaster scene. Yeah, the roller coaster thing was. It could have been better, though. It was a good idea.

I think it wasn't maybe... It looked crazy, but it could have been better, though. It could have been better. Good on paper. Yeah, good on paper, right? Yeah. Yeah. All right.

That is Final Destination 3. We'll move on to the final destination. But is it? It is not. Hey, how old is this place? You got me. We're fine. From 2009, a horrifying premonition saves a young man and his friends from death during a racetrack accident, but terrible fates await them nonetheless.

Director is David R. Ellis, also known for Shark Knight and Snakes on a plane. This is the Southern. Hey, ow, ow. You're with me. You're a man of the South, just like I. am. This is the southern final destination, am I right? Yep. I'm tired of these snakes on this motherfucking racetrack. Daytona, brother. Daytona, brother.

Daytona, brother. Yep. Yep. On my bucket list. They're not good for the traction. Writer is Eric Brez, also known for the butterfly effect. Great movie. What happened here? No.

Asked the picture. Good question. During the car wash scene, that one was fun. Haley Webb actually broke the car window when she was pounding on it. The editors left the shot in. The film's McKinley Speedway accident is similar to a real-life disaster, the 1955 Le Mans disaster, a 24-hour endurance race in which a multi-car collision launched an engine block. hood and other wreckage into a pack crowd of spectators killing an estimated 84 people in total the deaths include spectators being

people broke the deaths include being cut in half by the flying hood uh like a guillotine um the engine block crushing a swath through the crowd an explosion and fire also occurred which added to the death toll Death toll. Damn. However, in Le Mans, they don't actually have fences. It's like these people are standing on the side of the road during a fucking high-speed race. And when they just ran over, everybody goes, oh, my God, I can't believe that happened. I never understood that.

I never understood that. Like, you ever see, like, when the people are standing on the side of the road when they're watching drift races? Or, like, the rally cars where they're, like, flying. Exactly what I'm trying to talk about right now. What I'm saying is, like, people are just standing on the side of the row and people are like cars driving 300 miles an hour, 200 miles an hour. And then if any, if any swivel and this car goes out of here and you're just dead. Yeah. To be fair, kind of had that coming.

But in a NASCAR, they have the fence. And so shit like this doesn't really happen. But. I don't have that on that. They don't have that in the, they don't have that over there, though, bro. Yeah. Al, would you think about the final destination?

It was cool. I mean, this is the one that the kid was, I mean, I can remember it. Damn. So this is the one that with the kid was, he was going on the, yeah, yeah, the cars or whatever. Yeah.

And then the home girl, and the home girl, and then he steps side aside, and then he pushes his wife outside or whatever, and then she gets hit by a fucking, fucking goddamn attire, smashes her whole head of. Bad luck. Oh, yeah. After they had saved everybody, I didn't hate that part. And he was telling me, he's like, yo, I got to get back inside and get to see my wife.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. No, no, no, no, no, no. And they tell him, no, no, no, no, no. And then what happened? His fucking wife gets fucking destroyed by a fucking tire, which was terrible, and it looked bad. Yeah, took her head off, though. These are movies, and this is what to watch. That was, that was pretty bad, though, for real.

for real for real. Yeah, the special effects in this one were not top-notched. No, this was terrible. The special special, special IDN, whatever they call it. And they're pretty good, too. And then, like, why, why? And then why wouldn't they let him get back into what's there to go try to get his wife? Like, who does that, dude?

Like, okay, you're there. Yeah, it doesn't make sense, does it? You're too concerned about that bro. No, let the man go here's wife. If he dies, he dies. Okay. If he dies, he dies. If he dies, he dies.

It's like fucking goddamn drago, dude. What the fuck? Yeah. What about the other kills? Hey, Al, what about the other kills, though? Like all the water-based killing. Like the fucking car wash and the water here and the water there. That got out of control, didn't it?

and then the water's sucking your fucking whole asshole out. Yeah, come on, man. That was crazy. I'm not mad that they did that scene because, like, you know, that's always been like the old line's tail. That was a great kill. Yes, yes. I got you, Phil. Like, don't go to the bottom of the drain in the pool because it'll suck your intestines out of your butthole.

And it did. Yeah. And it did. And he was just a fucking piece of shit. And he was a fucking jerk anyway. like this fucking guy Ambar Two face

What the fuck you doing dude? Okay Yeah, you can die Did I Hey, ow Did I miss something Or why did all the kills

Turned under water Halfway through the movie Was that a new twist too? Why the water based bullshit? I don't think so I don't think so I don't think so But I think that

That took me out of it I just think that It's not this movie's not as good as number three. I'm gonna tell you straight up. It's not as good as number three. For sure.

Agreed. But I just think that I don't know. I mean, I don't know, bro. I mean, I don't know why it's all water base kills or whatever. You know, but like...

Did they explain that? See, if they explained it, I missed it. Maybe Brian... Yeah, yeah. I missed it too, then shit. I miss it too. Then shit. I miss it too.

Fuck. What the fuck? But, like, it's just I don't know we gotta watch the one we gotta watch the one with a fucking kid

gets smashed by fucking goddamn glass plate for 50 was that the second one yeah yeah how's it going

Brian what you think I hated this movie I hated this movie I hated everything about it yeah I hate it wow I hate it too

bro how bad do you have to be to fuck up a final destination movie. I know. I know. I'm surprised that I think there's one more before the new one. And that's the, and that came out three years after that. I'm surprised this, this movie just didn't kill the franchise.

Mm-hmm. The CGI, the CGI was horrible. Yeah, that's a weird. It was like a, what's this cartoon? The characters were unlikable. And then you set up a racist character, a dushy asshole. and their kills were weak. Yeah.

The only thing that was the racist guy, the only thing that was hilarious is the, why can't we be friends was playing while he was burning up. I thought that was fucking. But then the douche, the dushi guy, he's getting his inside sucked out through his ass, and they don't show it. It felt like this movie became PG-13.

I know. Which is weird. It was weird. At least that they played the songs that these motherfuckers, you know, for the last two movies that, at least they play the songs that they're going to die to. Okay. True. True. You know?

They could have showed more. They could have showed more with him underwater, like, his eyeballs getting sucked in or something. Oh, that would be good. That would have been great. Yeah. Something because. Would have been. Yeah.

I mean, it felt like this movie was PG. but then right before that scene happens, you get a full-on sex scene with a girl riding him. Oh, yeah. And then you go PG-13 with his kill. I know. That's good. Even the guts,

even most of the blood that came out of the pipe, you can tell it was CG blood. Yeah. Yeah, even better it looked like it was like some liver. I was going to say the grocery sewering through on the... Then like a rubber intestine. Yeah.

And then you could have made a fucking drinking game. every time they try to make something 3D happen. I know. Oh, I don't think about the 3D thing. What was it? Brian, was it? The last movie that's supposed to be a Final Fantasy 3D? Like, why would you even do that?

That's one. And then, I mean, the one is good as it stands on its own. And then you fucking make the final destination, and this is how you fucking make the final destination? What are you talking about, though? Come on out, bro. And then, like, I got, I got, all right, I'm just going to live for the fucking goddamn,

the square, I'm just going to work for the square alert because I can't, I can't deal with this shit, dude. Because this shit's fucking stupid sometimes, dude. What the fuck you're talking about, dude? What are they talking about, bro? The final scene, you don't get none of their deaths the fucking bus crashes

into the cafe and then goes into the animated 3D bulletin. And then... Yeah, that was weak. Scalalions and stuff like that. Was it the final three or was it, um... Was it fun or was it a fun of destination

when they're in the fucking train track and then you still don't fucking see the fucking death? Well, that was the first one, right? They got stuck on the track. Or... Yeah. I might be misremembering at this point. You saw the train in a premonition, so at least you got that.

This one, you didn't get a premonition. He's got a bus crashing through after he looked and noticed a couple clues, and then it just went into it, like, it turned into Mortal Kombat all of a sudden. Yeah, yeah, and then, yeah, and then, yeah, exactly. And then, right, and then they, oh, they're showing fucking brains, bodies broken and fucking shit like this. bones broken type of shit like this what are you showing right now dude like what fucking talking about they could they could see g the x-rays better than they could

see g the people they were like i know we've been doing this the whole movie but let's change it up the best kill though was the hot mom getting the rock yeah that was the best one because they kind of sure they introduced the rock and then they kind of made you forget about it with all the shit going on in the salon with the scissors and the aerosol can and stuff like that

and then comes the rock with the lawnmower through the eye that was probably the best kill probably the most to me the probably the most violent yeah okay and it had the most setup yeah

sure like that's what these movies are is shit like that where they have a lot of little things some of them are red herring Some of them pay off. Connected to death. And you're guessing the whole time, oh, shit. And how are they going to die?

And I felt like death was kind of laid back in this one. Kind of a pussy. Because every time in the other movies when people are trying to prevent someone's death, they would sabotage something. Like the car wash scene. If this was the previous three movies, death would sabotage the Bubba Gumpch, the truck before he even had a chance

to push the other truck in the but everything just came too easy I was actually kind of looking forward to that death too I was I was a little disappointed when it didn't happen but Bubba Gump though he actually like literally like drove the car into the fucking truck and fucking stopped the truck and then kept her from dying and then

he fucking 20 minutes later he walked down to the street and got fucking hit by car boom now he's gone but like I'm just saying she had that shit coming. Like, she, she was going to a car wash while her thing wasn't working to begin with.

How exactly is it that you expected this to turn out? And then you stick your head up through the fucking like, you know what? She does. She dies. All that water. All that water coming out of that pipe. Yeah.

Really? Well, I think we're going too indebted to a fucking goddamn fucking silly-ass movie, honestly. Well, you want me to give my review? It's silly because it's awful. Oh, yeah, yeah, go ahead. My review is pass. Pass.

Next? Next. I've not even heard to talk about this trash. Yeah. This is terrible. I forgot where we are in the review, and I just kept talking about it. It doesn't matter. What do you have to say for it, Phil?

Yeah, no, I think it was... Phil likes it. Phil likes it to a point. No, man. It's... I think it's... It's... I think it's hard to fuck up

a final destination movie because it's... But... Like, they're so... That being said. They're so formulaic and easy. All you have to do is make...

Make a good... Yeah. A good creative... That's I told you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

I told you that shit. Yeah. You get some good creative kills and the rest of it sort of falls. in place. As long as the acting is not super fucking terrible, which it was.

Which in this one it was. And the special effects, the special effects, I think, are really what killed it. Because they were like, sci-fi TV movie level. I know. Special. They were awful.

Like, really bad. The tone also was off. there was a certain darkness. I mean, there was some comedic stuff to the first one and the second one, but there was still like an airiness, a darkness to it. Yeah. This one

just kind of seemed light. This movie was fucking horrible. I guess. I'm going to tell you straight up, this one was bad, bro. I mean, this move was really, really bad. I mean, I mean, fun of this thing, too, was fucking okay. But this

That was good. I love I love two. Yeah. Oh, three. One was really great. It was good. It was awesome. And this was just like, Yeah.

I mean, okay. Three, three fell off a little bit, which is to be expected. But it was still fun. But it was still fun. It had the same feel. It had some interesting kills.

It was, it was, it was not hard to get through. Um, this one was, dude like there were so many scenes where I was like dude this dialogue is terrible what the fuck are we doing

it doesn't it doesn't it's almost surreal it doesn't help that nobody is likable you're not rooting for nobody seriously that is true that is just like Phil you brought up the chick in the the car wash you're just kind of like well you fucking ask for it you put yourself in that situation

like you could not be more dumb that's how you die just be really fucking stupid I'll go two I was about to say join me Lance yeah learned to get a line of

through you yeah I'll give it a one I'll give it a one this fucking last one I'll give it a bad though I was gonna give it to you just for the race last one so fucking bad bro

like yeah the graphics were so fucking horrible in that race scene and everything else. So Brian's right. It's a one. This is trash. It has no reason to be in the Final Destination franchise. And I'm moving on. Yeah, this seems more like some foreign Final Destination rip-off.

I can see that. Yeah. Like the French Final Destination. Yeah. Where they're all wearing striped shirts. wear those silly hats okay and they've got some random red deck

Nazi is the bad guy walk around with fucking Brad and shout out to the polite cowboy though oh yeah cowboys can be polite yeah I'm gonna go I'm gonna go three I think

I give it a little bit because it's final destination and it still it still sort of did its job it just did it really really bad Okay. And the cowboy thing. Like the cowboy, he did his job because, like, you were supposed to forget that guy. Right? Yes. In the lineage of people that are getting killed. And I totally did. What number was the one where the kid got killed at the end when he fucking got hit?

Like in the fucking goddamn barbecue shit? What number was that? Was that like two or four? But for as many other, you know, horror movies, horror franchises that have a shitload of sequels, I'm really surprised that this one doesn't because, like, you don't really need a great storyline. You don't have to flesh out all these characters. You don't have to do anything except make the kills interesting. It just, it's a ready to, it's a fucking TV dinner of horror movies, man. it's served up for you already. Yeah, just sit down with your TV dinner platter and pull the aluminum bag.

Yeah. It's a fucking connect to say. It's a fucking connector saying. You got it, bro. And that's what you need. It's a fucking connector saying, you got it, bro. All you got is plug in the parts and make it work. You know, it's not that hard.

That's it. I know. That's it. All right. So on that note, we want to thank you guys for listening to the episode of the Horror Returns. You know how to reach us. The Horror Returns.com or The Horror Returns at gmail.com. Next week, Brian, I believe we're going back to the theater, aren't we?

Yeah, I'm excited. I'm hearing great things about this movie. Okay. What are you watching? Companion? Oh, you missed companion. Brian, why the fuck didn't you put that on the schedule, man? Oh, I wanted to watch that one.

I really, I'm going to watch it this week. Yeah. It's not on our schedule, right? Yeah. We'll talk about it next week because I'm going to watch it, too. heard great things about that too. But Heart Eyes, right? Heart Eyes, new

holiday slasher movie. And also Valentine? Yeah, this is a Valentine's movie. I needed something to parent. Go watch something about Grandma with Michael Jai White. That motherfucker on 2B for free. That other fuck is a great movie, dude. Go watch

that shit, dude. Or Grandma's boy. We're going to underrated classic. Like 25 people in the fucking whole movie. More, more, oh, folks home shows so uh philip until the whore returns again good night