The Horror Returns - THR Ep. #457: The Monkey's Paw (2013) & The Monkey (2025)

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

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Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language, join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everyone, to The Horror Returns.

Appreciate you guys joining us here each and every week. I'm Lance, and with me as always, my co-host, Brian and Phillip. How's it going, guys? What's up? Pretty good. Yeah, good to, good to, to, see you guys, man.

We've had some we've had some ups and downs with movies lately. Brian, it seems like there's not a lot of theatrical horror coming out the next couple of weeks. We got a couple of special episodes on the docket coming up. Yeah, I think heading into March, I think we're in the theater

once, I think. Okay. All right. It makes life easy for me. Yeah. Yeah. Fortunately, There's no lack of horror movies out there, right? Yeah, it's like the horror took back January and forgot about February and March. Yeah, and I think the movie we were going to review in the theater is technically not horror.

It's more psychological thriller. I can see that. Yeah, well, that's cool. I'm looking forward to it, man. We'll see how it goes. Anyway, here we are back again. So if you're new to the show, welcome. We got a lot of new listeners.

I've been checking out the numbers on the audio show and happy to say they keep rising. So thanks for supporting us, guys. It means the world to us. But if you do know the show, you know where we're headed. So we're going to a little place called Cool of the Week. What is the coolest thing you've checked out this week, Philip? Let's see. I got a couple of them.

So most of what I've been watching is Alone Australia. I got so stuck into it. Because I, like, you know, I get real into naked and afraid, right? And that's what this is, except with, you know, realistic, with clothes and gear and shit. A whole bunch of animals that can kill you. Yeah. Although they were on T's, they were in Tasmania. So I don't even know if there were any real predators there except maybe some snakes.

Like, it was just a bunch of little, actually, there wasn't a whole lot of animals out there except make some birds, little. wallabies and shit. That's about it. Anyway, that's pretty interesting. No Tasmanian. No Tasmanian devils? Actually, I think they did show a little Tasmanian devil on there.

Did they think? Yeah. But they couldn't mess with the platypus because they're endangered. Ah. Yeah. So they had to, they couldn't kill anything. That makes sense.

They couldn't kill anything with their traps. They had to like trap it, make sure it wasn't an endangered species and then kill it. Okay. That makes a little more difficult. That makes sense. Yeah. And then my... Harder to find somebody to eat. Yeah.

And then my horror-related, cool-lake, well, sort of horror-related, I guess horror sci-fi, was elevation. With Anthony Mackey. Okay. Yeah. I had no idea about this one. I was just watching something else on whatever streaming service it's on. I think it's...

Was it Peacock or Paramount? some shit. I want to say Max. Max. That makes sense. Okay. Ah, yeah, because my wife is watching Sopranos. Thank you. Way better than Gossip Girl. Favorite show at all time.

Grey's Anatomy. I've never seen it, Brian. Supranos? No. Great. I can quote lines from that show. Yeah. Steve Bouchemi's showing up right now. I was like, oh, I forgot he's in this. Oh, that's all I need to hear. That's a good season.

He directed some of those episodes. Oh, okay. But yeah, so I watched Elevation, and it's like, it's sort of like a quiet place, except instead of using sound or whatever, these creatures just can't go above 8,000 feet. So now the only people left on the planet are like on mountaintops and shit. That makes a lot of sense. Seems like that be...

Yeah. Yeah, no shit. Easy to survive, right? Except Anthony Mackey's son has a breathing condition. And so if he doesn't have these oxygen filters or some, whatever McGuffin that is that he's looking for, then he's going to die. So he has to go down below the elevation and face the monsters to get to the hospital to get the McGuffin and come back, right? Yes, gotcha. And it was all right, man.

It was actually a little bit cheesy, but I mean, worth watching, but I definitely wasn't super impressed with it. It was a little B-movie-ish. That's all right, man. It was a little over the top and all over the place. It was cool-ish of the week, right? Didn't have that MCU budget, did it? No, it definitely did not. I mean, it was a cool world idea, though.

and I kind of liked where it went, except at the end, they just wrap everything up so fast. Yeah, I hate it when they do that. Yeah. Like they ran out of time. Oh, now the world is saved. I was like, wait. All right. And it all happens within a span of like three minutes.

Kind of like war of the worlds, huh? Oh, we just happen to have a virus that we were immune to and they weren't. Yeah. But that's what I got this week. Elevation. All right. Brian? I don't have anything horror, but I did watch one new movie.

New action comedy called Love Hearts with Ki-Hu-Kin. Oh, yes, I want to see this one. I don't know what that is. The premise is Ki-Hu Kuan is a real estate guy, realtor and all of a sudden he has all these hitmen showing up to take him out and come to find out he used to be a hitman and he was sent to take out somebody and he didn't he let them go and then he kind of disappeared to restart his own life and his old life is coming back to get him because they want to know where this person is that he let go why he let them go and It's made by the people that did the studio that did the John Wick movies. I was just fed to ask you if it didn't have kind of like shades of nobody a little bit. Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

A little bit, but I felt like some of the comedy kind of ruined it for me. Oh, no. And I kind of wanted it to have that kind of fast-paced action style, but they kind of had these little law moments to do like character building and why he wanted, why he wanted to leave the life behind to have this new life. And I was just got to the point where like I, I understand. Let's stop having these moments. Let's get to the action.

Sure. But I will say the standout person and it is Marshawn Lynch is one of the hitmen. Oh, really? Yeah. Like Marshaun Lynch? Marchon Lynch? Yeah. he's even credited as Marchand Beast Mode Lynch

and I would have to say he's really fucking natural in this movie like with the line delivery and some of the action stuff he was doing he was kind of a standout character in it he may have a future he was in some TV show I was watching where they have like all these actors show up

and then they'll have like a special guest guy that has no idea about the script or whatever and he's just sort of trying to go with it and Marshawn Lynch was the guy that was there that was just trying to go with it and everybody else is acting and he did surprisingly well yeah I would definitely like to see him and more of the stuff I was watching it with the wife and I was just kind of like he seems really natural like I don't feel like he's reading lines and he was hitting the the comedy marks and then he was getting involved in the action yeah he's funny Yeah, so he was a highlight. Kihukwan, I just like seeing his, hearing his story on how he almost disappeared from acting completely before everything everywhere all at once and just kind of famous come back.

Yeah, short round. He was good and then he has some good action sequences. I think he was also the fight choreographer. because that's what he was doing when he wasn't acting. He was doing a lot of fight choreography. Oh, really? Yeah. Think for like The Matrix and X-Men and stuff like that.

Yeah, I think I knew that. That's cool. I think we've talked about that before, Brian. Yeah, it's not a bad movie. It's just a little disappointing because I've seen the trailer and the trailer got me. I was like, I'm definitely checking this out. But out of the studio that makes John, wicks this is on the lower end

cool fight scenes yeah there was some cool fight scenes just wish there was a little bit more cool fight scenes yeah Marshawn Lynch might be the next John Sina huh break out into acting hey put them in a movie together it's like a buddy cop

movie you heard it here first folks I bet you Marsha Lynch is a better actor than John Sina which wrestling returns will be back. There is a PLE. I think that's what they're calling me and that's still calling pay-per-views, but that's not what they're called anymore. Right. So there will be an episode next week.

We're kind of haven't had the time to do any of our other shows, but wrestling will be back next week. Yeah, I've had a few people ask about it, like when we had another wrestling return show coming out. So there's an audience out there for sure. Yeah. So I'm sure everybody's looking forward to it, man.

And another show I haven't done in a while. I'm working on bringing it back with a special new host. I'll just leave it there until it releases. Okay. It's a show I haven't done in a while. Does it have anything to do with the Amityville Horror? It might have to do with that. I found someone brave enough to take the journey with me.

Okay. How many of these movies can there be? Oh, I got a list. It's going to be, the spin-off show is going to have a lot of episodes. Oh, man. I've been quivering with anticipation, let me tell you. Especially the Amityville Karen.

It's on the list, along with Amityville Toilet and Amityville. Come on. Thanksgiving. I think so. I'mneyville in space. No. Emityville toilet. You're just naming things. Amityville lamp.

You know what, Phil? That's probably a movie. I don't know why we're yelling. But that's all I got is love hurts. All right. My clue of the week is when I'm late to the party on, even though I think, Brian, I had you convinced we were going to talk about it a couple of weeks ago, but finally got around to see Companion. Okay. I do wish they hadn't spoiled what it was.

I kind of wish the trailer. I wish they hadn't seen that second trailer. Like you were saying, Brian, it doesn't matter that much because they, you know, they announced that pretty early in the movie. Yeah. And then after that, there's like two or three more good twists after that that you kind of may or may not see. coming but I don't know I thought it kind of tell from the cover of the movie

you know what I mean because I had but I had the same feeling when I started watching it too yeah it's very obviously black very black mirrorish you know it's kind of interesting the way that it's like a lot of super modern

lingo like things people are saying now and the way people are acting now not too not too advanced with the cell phones and all but yet you've got these fully functional andrites. You have to suspend disbelief a little bit. At least they had like a totally self-driving car. They could

actually lock you in it and you had to break the windows to get out of it. That was interesting. Yeah, no, I loved it. I especially like the one twist with the other character that I didn't see coming. And I always love Harvey Gillen from what we do in the shadows.

Everything he does, he's just fucking hilarious. And so I was I was happy with the cast. Jack Quaid had to be one of the dumbest characters. It was funny watching him get so frustrated, dude. He was fucking hilarious.

Anybody listening who hasn't seen his spoilers, skip ahead like five seconds. Why would you put an upgrade like that? It's a good question. Because it wasn't. They wanted to get rid of the dude to get his money. No, he put the upgrade in her

to able to do that stuff. And before she wasn't able to do that. Right. I don't understand what the motivation was. Not everything made sense, dude. But it was fun.

It got a little silly towards the end. Although, and also, if you buy a robot that looks like Megan Fox, what exactly do you think is going to happen? Like that was a big fucking surprise True

Yeah, I kind of enjoy these movies, though This is kind of a neat little subgenre Here, and then we got Mithrigan 2.0 coming out, so that should be interesting, but it was fun. I liked it. I don't think it's going to make my top 10 list at the end of the year or anything like that, but definitely a fun movie.

Glad I watched it. Glad I watched it. after that conversation i'm really uncomfortable with little girl robots that seems weird now well let's move on well let's not go there what what's that feeling out they still have that uh that mithrigan spin-off movie thing soulmate is that still coming out yeah erotic horror thriller

Well, there you go. We got a whole universe. I just don't want to see Neverland Ranch the movie. Yeah. Because that would be a whole different. All right, moving on. Come on, Bubbo, we're going to have a good time. Speaking of monkey.

All right. Brian, you got us in any horror headlines this week. The first thing, I wasn't going to post it because it became news and then it became not news. First, it was announced that Stephen King was writing Mike Flanagan's The Dark Tower Series. And then in the same day, Stephen King said, no, I'm not writing Mike Planagan's Dark Tower series. Right.

I think I'd rather Mike Planagan write Mike Planox's Dark Tower Series. Hey, let's just do it. Just come out with the damn thing, right? And I've got to find his name. name real quick because kind of piggybacking off Mike Flanagan news right there because have you guys heard that he's doing

a Clayface movie for DC Mike Flanagan? No. He's writing one and they announced the director. It's going to be James Watkins did the new what was it? See No Evil? Not see no evil.

What's the one with a Speak no evil? Speak no evil. Yeah. Oh. The American could remake okay all right well that's cool you know i i enjoyed it so you know him and flanagan you can't go wrong right yeah and from what i understand this is a an else world story it's not connected to the other dc stuff so that's that these dc should probably stick with else world stuff i kind of you know what Lance I think I agree with you because that'd be something different than when Marvel's doing Marvel's doing the connected universe yeah and I got to say I'm kind of sick of the connected universe I'd rather him not be connected yeah like Brayn Evans welcome huh yeah I hear yeah like they keep spinning their wheels so hard on finding ways to connect everything and put them on together instead of just making a decent movie all right let's see what other TV news?

More Kate Fear news this week. They cast Patrick Wilson joins Amy Adams and Havier Burdow. It's a great cast. Yeah. Let's see. Hell of a summer. The

Ben Wolfhard directed, written and starring Summer Slasher. It gets a new release date of April 4th. A little early for summer, but okay. I think it was a little later in the summer. That's not a good sign. Yeah, that's strange timing, but okay.

But, I mean, I think neon's kind of knocking it out the park, and that's who's putting it out. That's true. Yeah. You have something else to get the theater for, right? Yeah. Probably should have led with this, but we had some deaths in the past couple days. Yeah, unfortunately. First, we had Buffy to Vampire Slayer star, Michelle Tractenberg.

passed away at age 39 super cute had a huge crush on her yeah Roberto orsi writer and producer for like Star Trek and other things like that

passed away oh yeah oh I didn't hear about that one and sadly I believe this happened last night Gene Hackman and his wife were found dead in their home

and their dog yeah sounds like it's probably carbon monoxide Yeah, that's what I was doing. Yeah, or gas leak or something. That's, that's, well, same thing, right? Yeah. Yeah.

So, rest in peace to them. I didn't realize Gene Hackman was that old, 95. Hey, yeah, that's impressive, man. My wife was like, hey, Gene Hackman died. I was like, he's alive. Yeah, right? So they'll say whenever Captain Kirk finally fights it, huh? Yeah.

sure he's 90-something in he? 20 years ago. I think so, yeah. Oh, God. Sorry, guys. I'm really searching for news here. I know there was something else. Oh, R.L. Stein's release,

the release date for Prom Night's will be on Netflix, May 23rd. I'll probably watch it. I'm not super interested in it, like, just right now. But I'm sure I'll watch it. Your daughter will have you. watching it with her, I'm sure. Yeah, that's true. He clarified,

goosebumps is for kids. Fair Street kills kids. Okay. Again, Phillips' daughter will definitely want to watch it. She's doing art to clown fan art. Yeah. Yes. That's true. I don't think there is...

I talked about that movie J-Way from the Jersey Shore did Devin the little found footage. Yes, yes, yes. She's doing another movie called Nanny Cam, which kind of looks like it's going to be a little found footage. Okay.

All right, hey, work her way up. Sequel to DashCam or what? I like Dash Cam. That was a good one, yeah. Nanny Cam sounds like it could be a cool movie. Yeah, I mean, Devin wasn't bad. just I'm not really into the ghost hunter. You get a group of

people to go in abandon asylums and but it did what it was supposed to do and it got picked up by screen box so she's doing something right. Yeah, fair enough. And I think that's it. Checking.

All right. Yeah, that's it. Okay. In that note, it's time to take a little trip down to the trailer park. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's our first new trailer tonight, Brian? Well, let's start with Weird, the surfer starring Nicholas Cage.

Okay. Cage rages back. I don't know what to expect from that thing. I was going to read the synopsis, but the synopsis is basically, he goes back to a beach that he used to surf at that he grew up at and is not welcomed by the locals, which I've always heard.

Don't mess with it. the locals in surf spots. Yeah. And he has his son with him that he wanted to share this moment with and as the trailer progresses it looks like other

things happened other than not being able to surf at this that way. Definitely a few callbacks to some Mandy moments there maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Okay. So in my brain here's what happens in the movie, right? all the trailer stuff people are mean to him and it just builds up and they keep being assholes

until he finally loses his shit and murders everybody that's why i hope that's how it goes but i don't know are we going to find out that this is all in his head and he's just murdering people for no reason he could actually serve his place the whole time there are some kind of tributtal there are some kind of tribut looking scenes in there and like... Right, right. It also was really weird how mean these people are being to him just from what

I'm gathering. Right. Hey, mate. Get off our far bloody beach. But it looks like Prime Nick Cage acting and I feel another Cage Ridge episode happening because that scene where they take his board

and they hang it up. Oh God, yeah, that pissing so far off, wouldn't it, Philip? you feel the Nick Cage coming out when he was like, my dad gave me that board. I was like, it's happening. That little tagline that said something along the lines of Nick Cage fans are going to love this movie

or something like that, whatever it was that it said. I was like, oh, okay, all right. Sold. That was good. So I'm assuming we're all in on this one. Oh, yeah. Yep. This one.

And Beed. Beed. Beid will be here with us, I'm sure. Yeah. this one hits I think theaters I think this might be getting a limited theater release

May 2nd got a lot of good stuff coming up once we get through March I think we get it made huh oh yeah April is going to start the floodgates nice

next one is a movie I've been hearing for a while I think it's based off a book that I think came out not too long ago already got a book, a movie adaptation as clown in a cornfield? You know, I got to say when I saw this trailer, that came from a book is not something that crossed my mind.

No shit. Aptly titled movie, that's for sure. They're not hiding anything. From the director of Tucker and Dale versus evil. That gives me hope. I mean, Tucker and Dale is awesome. love that movie this one didn't really give me those vibes though it looks like it's going to be pretty violent yeah well could this also be mistaken identity though right

were the clowns actually trying to help them the whole time didn't look that way did it well he shot that one in the head with an arrow so trailer clearly says don't trust friend oh which is the clown yeah friend oh the clown yeah well there you go you didn't like an original name. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. It looks fun. I love killer clowns, man. I think this one comes out a week after the surfer,

May 9th. All right. Sorry, guys, I am not prepared today. It's all right, man. Friendo's behind you over there, Brian. Do you see him? You sneak it up behind you? I don't know. Look at him. If he's back there, he's just going to have to take me out.

All right. Thank our home more movie. Our final trailer actually is just a teaser. From the directors of Talk to Me, the Philipu brothers. Their new movie is Bring Her Back, which looks like they're getting into, like, ritualistic witch stuff this time.

What'd you guys think of bring her back? Maybe. It was kind of hard to tell what's going on. This was more of a teaser than a trailer. Yeah. But that little... I wasn't super-duper interested until it said, bring her back, and I'm like, oh, we're going this route. And then it had like...

It did look like some sort of witchcrafty thing happening there. I was like, okay, this looks creepy and cool. I like it. What you think, Lance? Yeah, maybe little sprinklings of, like, pet cemetery. Or... Oh, yeah. What was that one they did a couple years of?

ago behind the door or something like that where you could bring people back if you go behind a door in this one community or whatever. I mean, it's been done a few times. I definitely have faith in these filmmakers. You know, the first one was awesome. So if they keep

it up, it should be fun. But Phillips, right, you really can't tell what the fuck's going on from the trailer. It's definitely a teaser. Yeah, the subopsis says a brother and sister on cover a terrifying ritual at a secluded home of their new foster mother. So this is brother and sister's foster mother doing these rituals.

I like that. That'll be cool. Long as it's not directed by M. Knight, because I've given up on that motherfucker after Trap. Oh, you'll watch the next one and the next one after that. See, and I feel like I probably did Trap a better review than it deserved because it was not a great movie. Oh, this also comes out in May, May 30th. Oh, man, we're going to be loaded. But it is said expected in May, so that could change.

Strange qualifier he's stuck on there. Yeah, it's probably, since we only got a teaser, it might not even be finished. That would make sense. And I know these guys like to take their time, because they were supposed to do the new Street Fighter movie. Really? Yeah, but they dropped out because of Skagit. scheduling and I read they like to take their time making their movies they don't want to rush anything that's not a bad thing yeah get the production studio out of it and let the artist do art

all right I guess we're on to listener feedback you this week we shine the podcast spotlight on scary fairies podcast the scary fairies an enchanting trio of long lost fairy companions gather each week beneath the ethereal glow of their glistening wings to convene upon the subject of a chosen horror picture. Should the film prove lackluster? I'm telling you, should the film prove lackluster, they indulge in merry ridicule. Yet, if it reveals itself to be a masterpiece, they delight in turning their laughter inward with mirth as sharp as their teeth. And when not recording the podcast, they all work at the Renaissance Festival. Let me guess.

Yeah, that probably, that tracks. All right. And Brian posted a poll. What's the best moody adaptation of a Stephen King book? So far, The Mist is leading with 20%. Ricardo Highlander says Carrie. Jennifer Payne says the absolute closest I have seen. is the Green Mile, one of my favorite films.

But it isn't listed here, so I voted for the Dead Zone. Another good one. Yeah, I tried to keep it more horror. Yeah. David Barta says I had to vote for the Dead Zone until I get a chance to see The Monkey. And Don Caprius says, technically Monkey does not qualify

since it wasn't a full book. Gives the director more of the film, uh, more room to play with the film. Matt Wood says, Easley the Shining, a Kubrickian masterpiece. Isn't that known as the worst adaptation?

Controversial, but still a great movie. Chris Martin says Shawshank Redemption is the best adaptation, followed by the Green Mile and Pet Cemetery. Wow, Green Mile straight to Pet Cemetery, huh? Beed Your Mind says, Hey, gang, I hope you all Check out this special bonus episode of mine And my friend Stephen T. Boltz's podcast together

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although if anybody's listening to us they probably know who beat is yeah in regards to Michelle Tractenburg Trey King says sorry for your loss the only movies I ever saw

with her in it was Inspector Gadgett oh forgot about that one Oh gosh Euro Trip Great movie Scottie doesn't know Yeah

Black Christmas, not that one. The first rebate, the fun. Yeah, not the, yeah, yeah. 17 again, and she was good in all those movies. Anyway, she will be missed, RIP, Michelle. See, my older kids go back to Harriet the Spy. That's how far they go back. Oh, wow.

Oh, yeah, wow. Let's see, in regards to, The Monkey, Don Lowry says, I just hate that they give away so much in the previews. It makes me worried. I've already seen most of it before actually watching it. But as mentioned, amazing poster art. You guys think they gave away too much in the previews? No. Yeah. I mean, we'll get to it, but. I didn't, I don't even really remember watching the previews for this. All right. Um, in regards to the number 23. All right. Todd of Hague says, uh, one of the worst movies I've ever seen. And I watch a of movies.

Uh-oh. Is that the Jim Carrey one? Yeah, I have not seen that since it came out. I haven't either. I don't remember hating it. I do. I don't remember the movie, but...

Well, there you go. Let's see. Friday the 13th, David Barta says, first time seeing for me. Yeah. What? Congratulations. Check out the original.

Maybe he needs to pick one of those is one of his movies. Yeah. When he comes on with us. Oh, yeah. Let's see. In regards to Bride of Reanimate... We haven't done any Friday the 13th movies, have we?

We did the first one, didn't we? We did first, and that's it. Oh, okay. All right, David. Wow. All right. That just clicked. All right.

In regards to Bride of Reanimator, Mark Komarzynski says, a worthy successor to the original although it can't top the original. I don't think I've ever seen it. It's a fun one. They bring everybody back except Barbara Crampton.

She gets recast. Well, we haven't covered that one, David Barta. In regards to the Monkey's Paw, David Barta says, just finished watching this and my phone is spying on me. Yes, we are.

Correction, we're spying on you. All right. Our show intro and logos come from Steve from the geeks. Our original skull artwork comes from Natsulani. And if you'd like to help us out, please consider becoming a Patreon patron. Let's pick the movies for a future show at any amount. And for $5 or more a month, also pick a commentary for a future bonus show. All right.

On to featured attractions. This week, it's back to the theater for The Monkey, as well as 2013's The Monkees Paw. But you guys already know that because you clicked on the show. The Monkees' Paw from 2013. What is that? It's a Monkees' paw. My bad has said it could take hold of the man's life. Move the pieces around.

Three bones. Three good wishes. It's yours now. Jake is given a Monkey's Paw that grants three. wishes. After the first two wishes leave his friend, after the first two wishes leave his friend Cobb undead. Cobb pushes Jake to make the final wish. Okay. Director is Brett Simmons, also known for You Might Be the Killer and Kiki Palmer Animal. Did that for you, Brian. I hate her so much. The wife wants to watch her new movie and I'm just finding so many excuses to

get out of it. What's her new movie? It looks, I forgot what it's called, but it looks like basically the plot to Friday after next or they got to their rent and they got to come up with some way to get their rent. Yep.

But it's Friday after next but with girls. Yeah, I was like, let's just watch Friday after next. Let's see. Riter is making blames. also known for the upcoming Toxic Avenger. If it ever comes out.

With an name like Macon. This makes sense. Okay. Okay. Oh, Toxic Avengers, August? Yeah, August. Full theatrical run, and they're saying it's going to be unedited. Nice. That'll be fun.

The actor who plays Julespe's, is that how you can pronounce that? Father in the opening scene, Jason Stanley, is a highly regarded Jason Statham impersonator. Huh. I know how highly regarded you can be as a Jason Statham impersonator, but that's cool. All right. Lance, you want to start us off with the monkeys, Paul? Oh, man. All right.

So, first of all, I'm a huge, huge sucker for anything said in New Orleans. There was quite a few Gambits talking in this movie. Yeah, no kidding. It was straight up Cajun. Very, very much so. And obviously there were a lot of scenes that were filmed in areas

that I'm very familiar with. You know, haven't gone on a lot of trips to the Big Easy. So let's get that out of the way first. I mean, he's in the graveyard looking for some crawfish and pick up this monkey paw. I'll definitely

I'll definitely say that Stephen Lang knocked it out of the park that dude's good in anything he's been in but I think his character in this I enjoyed even more than the blind dude that like used the turkey baster to inseminate the woman what movie am I talking about?

Don't breathe. Don't breathe, yeah, yeah. I think this even even surpassed that he was so fucking over the top and when he came back from the dead he was even more over the top so that made even better but frankly the story was a little bit silly i mean yeah it's based on like a classic short story right like the monkeys paul be careful what you wish for we all know what's going to happen there's nothing fucking original in this at all everybody knows that it's going to lead to bad ends

no matter what you wish for and it's there's always going to be something but i i thought i felt Lange's character added a nice little side story to it that you didn't get in any of the original, you know, multiple remakes of this story that I've seen in different, you know, be it Wishmaster or whatever, right? You see this over and over and over and over and over again, but I kind of had fun. I really did. I kind of enjoyed the movie. I like the fact that it was kind of a B level movie. You know, you had the blue collar working class folks and, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it were, it worked for me. It shouldn't have. It should have been incredibly stupid, and, and, and, and, and, I got to say, I got to say, I didn't hate it. I definitely liked it more than I didn't like it at the end of the day. They need subtitles. All right. Brian, what you were talking about now? Yeah, the, his one friend. the black guy, you definitely needed subtitles for him.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I looked him up. That guy is not... What was his name? He had the weirdest name. Catfish. Catfish. Yeah, there was a couple times he started talking, and I was like, what did you just say? Yeah, I'm grabbing a remote and trying to turn on subtitles. Yeah.

This is a pretty middle of the row. Like you said, Lance, you've kind of seen this story before. It's nothing bad, but nothing too special. I think the real reason to watch the movie is Stephen Lang, because you put him as the villain, bad guy, whatever. I think he knocks it out the part every time, whether he's taking it serious or he's hamming it up. Because everybody in this movie, other than my boy Catfish,

everybody's kind of bland and boring. I don't know. I don't even milk toast. I don't even know the, I don't even know the, the main guy's name. I couldn't either. I couldn't tell a couple of the characters from each other. It was that bad.

And that really hurts a movie because if I can't remember the main basically hero of the movie's name, then I don't care if he makes it through or not. I didn't care about his girlfriend, who wasn't his girlfriend. Yes. I didn't care about his brother and sister. They throw in the mom,

having cancer. Oh, yeah. Had to do that. Just throwing in more characters. And I was just like, let's get more Stephen Lang in here. Yeah, for sure. You could have just left camera on him for the whole movie. Yeah, agreed.

I can't believe he hasn't gotten his own, you know, TV series, or has he? Has he ever been in a recurring role in a TV series? He'd be great in, like a post-apocalyptic. Badlands on AMC? Wasn't he in that one? I never saw that one. Into the Badlands? Yeah, that one.

Yeah, you know I started watching that? Never finished it. Yeah. It was pretty good, though, from what I was watching. I think he at least was in season one. But he's played with the villain in Avatar. We brought up Don't Breast. Sure, sure.

He was, uh, what's, I can't think of his name in Tombstone. He gets around, man. It looks like he needed to take a pass like every second he was on screen. Stephen Lang is really good at looking dirty. Or maybe he's just really good at showing up on set dirty. But I thought if you would have just, you have him do what he was doing because he was great and then switch the main guy with catfish and have catfish as the main guy. I would have been 100%.

fall off board of this movie. That had been the running joke. Say, I was going to go down down. Get wild dab, dad. I said, have you to have some cafish. I'm talking catfish.

I was out. Get a lot of hot sauce on that now, you know. But it was, it was. The water boy. Yeah. I love that guy. The guy with the nipple rings.

Yeah. But it was good to go back and watch because Makin Blair, he's been in a lot of great movies and he's written a lot of great stuff so it's kind of good to see where he kind of started from.

Makes sense, yeah. But if you didn't want to watch this movie, I wouldn't blame you because you're not really missing nothing because they're just nothing too special because the deaths weren't even really nothing about.

Was this like a made- for TV movie or something? It said, Chiller films, because remember Chiller used to have their channel on cable. That's right. That's right. Even the head and the vice thing was kind of the camera cut away.

Yeah, which pissed me off because they stuck with it as if they were going to see something, and then it just cut quickly. Plus, how cool could you, like it doesn't even have to look real. Just put a fake head in there and have it explode. Yeah.

have the eyeballs pop out. Yeah. Put a pumpkin in there and paint a face on it. Head crushing scenes are fantastic. I still have burned in my brain from one of those James Bond movies where that guy hit, where that guy's head explodes. Yeah. Yeah. Like from when I was a little kid and I watched that.

And it was like, oh my God, that was the greatest thing I've ever seen. Of course, scanners. Yeah. Scanners is a classic. But. Yeah, that really irritated me because, like I said, the kills were nothing special. I mean, he strangles a couple people to death. Right.

And I think one of them was like a, one of them was like from behind, so you're not really seeing him strangle anybody. And he could have gotten laid by that really hot shit, but he killed her instead. Yeah, what was, what was, I might have blacked out for a second. What was his motivation for wanting him to do his final wish? I don't know, man. So he wanted, he, he wanted, he wanted to spend time with his son and he wanted his son to love him. That's right. That's right. Oh, he wanted that to be the guy's final wish.

Yeah. Yeah, he wanted to make his son love him. I want my son back. And he's like, nothing made any sense. It's like, obviously you weren't an awesome dad while you were alive. and now that you're a fucking zombie. I just want to take my son fishing. Well, maybe not kill people in front of him and beat them all. I just realized something.

Brian is the ultimate at putting these films together because I just realized he only saw his son once a year. Oh, that's tried. Our connections. We'll get to that. There you go. Oh, there's definitely some connections. This is a good one.

but not a not a not a horrible watch i'm not bad i'm not mad i watched it but it's it's nothing too special sure yeah nothing too special enough that when i watched it i was a little bit tired and boy it put me the fuck out i agree with you phil because this took me two nights to watch it yeah i had to watch it again and i was like well i don't know how much i missed i mean it was cool watching Stephen Lang do his thing, but he was obviously the highlight of this movie. And there's not a whole lot of other redeeming qualities. The rest of the movie was kind of like taking a benzo, huh? I did, I did like that they, that they really stuck with that Cajun accent in there for everybody.

They did. That was fun. I'm telling you, put catfish in that main role. Yeah. You're sticking with that character, the whole movie. He's a good-looking kid, too, man. He could have totally pulled that off. I don't think I've ever seen him in anything else.

I looked him up to see if he was really Cajun or from New Orleans. Not from New Orleans. Brooklyn. Oh, really? He has a background. He's from, like, Disney Channel. Oh, all right. That makes sense.

Probably a Florida guy, huh? No, I want to say. I'm going to go character actor in this guy. I'm playing it. Yeah. don't just a look you don't even have to do an accent his name is corbin corbin blue and he's from brooklyn new york or that's not a fucking name get out of god i didn't say brooklyn didn't i brian it's a fake name if i've ever heard one uh but yeah

you're like texas battle huh yeah that's an amazing name I had a history teacher named Tex. She was a middle-aged lesbian with a mullet. That sounds cool. Pretty great teacher. One of my teachers. But yeah, no, it was all right. I didn't hate it.

I mean, there was some redeeming qualities, but I'm not excited to watch it again. There wasn't enough stuff happening, man. It was hard to keep my attention. All right. Scores, Lance, what do you think? I liked it better than I didn't. I'll give it. I'll leave a jump up and give it a six.

I'll give it a six because of Stephen Lang's... I wouldn't give it at five and a half if Lang hadn't ratcheted it up just over the top enough. And yes, catfish. So, yeah, six on ten. And he was... Catfish was only in a couple scenes. He only had to be. There were important scenes, though.

Yeah. He would give some words of wisdom, whatever they were. We didn't know what they were. He didn't know what he was saying. And he gave him the gun and he gave him a ride. Yeah, that's right. True friend. You remember I told you now.

Is that me? Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, I think six is fair. Of course, I spoke about it. And my favorite characters with Stephen Lang and Catfish. Catfish is the MVP of this movie. But other than those two reasons, you don't need to watch it.

It's nothing you haven't seen before. They don't even really go into the mythos of the monkey's paws just kind of there and tells you you have to make wishes. And only this person can make wishes until he's done. And that's all you get about the monkeys paw. Yeah. And you pass it on. So if you're coming into this thinking you're going to learn the mythology about the monkeys' paw this wrong movie

it's also not even a great looking monkey's paw like I feel like they could have done I always liked it that's it well they they barely show it he pulls it out a couple times to make a couple wishes then he throws it

away and then it's gone for the rest of the movie rats eating on it and shit so but I I'm in agree in agreements with Lance I liked it more than I didn't like it so I think six is fair

I'm going to go four and a half there you go probably a more realistic I think I'm going to start being more realistic on my movies I always give them the benefit of the doubt but this one was a little bit of a stinker

like a mid-range stinker you know like that like that fart in the aisle of the grocery store when cropped dust and old lady who's coming down there. It's bad, but it's kind of funny.

All right, that was a weird description. I don't know where that came from. But strangely, I knew what you were talking about. All right. On to the new one, the monkey. For the longest time, there was nothing. But then it appeared a beast, not from this earth. smiting the ones who deserved it

the ones who didn't and everyone in between when twin brothers Bill and Howell find their father's old monkey toy in the attic a series of gruesome deaths start the siblings decide to throw the toy away and move on with their lives growing apart over the years

uh yeah all right I don't know how much how good of a description that is but that's okay Sure. Director and writers Oz Good Perkins, also known for long legs. According to the director,

the decision to have the monkey bang a drum instead of symbols was due to the rights to the symbol banging version being owned by the Walt Disney company, as the toy had appeared in the character, as a character in Toy Story 3,

which is ironic because the symbol monkey was in Toy Story 3 in the first place because it's director Lee Uncrich is a fan of Stephen King. I like the decision. I think the symbols would have been distracting. Yeah, that's true.

I like the drums. The symbol banging monkey was a real thing, though, right? Yes. Yeah, I thought that was a real toy. I think I had one when I was growing up. But there wasn't a real one that banged drums, right? Like, this thing is not real? Not that I know.

Because there are neon's already selling, merch for it. They got little vinyl figures. Oh, that's cool. I hope the drumstick spins. I want like a life-size one. All right. Lance, what did you think about the monkey? Oh, man, you guys know I love this director. Like, the three or four movies that he's directed, I've seen, I've enjoyed all of them. But what I like about Ozgood, especially the earlier stuff that he did, you know. What was the earlier stuff? to call, I have the pretty one that lives in the house or whatever. Super, super slow burn, right?

I don't know that I ever watched that one. Yeah, I like it, man. The Black Coke's daughter. That was a good one. The one Lance brought up, I am the pretty thing that lives in the house. Gretel and Hansel, we reviewed. Okay. That's right.

And long legs. Okay. And I think we all enjoyed long legs, right? Yeah. For sure. Yeah. So, and I knew from what I'd been told that this was going to be more of a horror, quote-to-quote horror comedy, like lean in that direction. I didn't think it was going to go this fucking far into the comedy around guys.

Got pretty silly. Yeah, I might have finally found an Oz Perkins movie. I don't really care for that much, quite frankly, because there's, the idea was okay. the twist was I did not really think the twist was that clever which we'll get to later a lot of people are going to probably disagree with me and say wow that was so clever

how he did that that was so cool it made so much sense but it took me out of it and all the lead up you know the narration I think they spent way too much time of like the characters as young boys you know like all those different scenes

before they really finally got to, you know, what we're waiting for, which is the dude that's narrating through the trailer or the movie and stuff like that. I guess you can say a couple of the scenes, the kills were kind of fun to watch, but for me, just silly. Like one in particular where

if something falls in a pool and somebody jumps in it, I don't think that's how it happens. Philip, you're the electrician. No, definitely not, but I will 100% forgive them because I fucking. died. That was hilarious. What I'm not,

what I'm not, what I'm not going to do yet is, is trying to talk too much about what happens, you know, later in the film and like what's really going on. Just suffice it to say that we, we knew we were going into, you know,

kind of like a horror comedy. And I, I didn't know we were going into Charlie Chaplin, three stooges slapstick territory. Which people who love movies like dead alive and, beat the feebles and shit like that they're probably going to love this movie but just wasn't for me just wasn't for me all right uh brian well as per usual i'm coming from the opposite side here i really enjoyed this movie i thought it was a fun horror comedy i think it shows osgood perkins

has range because all his movies before this were serious not funny at all No funny moments at all. That may be what threw me off, man. Yeah. And I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the comedy in this. I thought the cast was phenomenal. I did wish that we'll get into spoilers.

There was a couple of people that showed up that I wish were more than cameos. That would have played bigger roles throughout. I thought the kills were hilarious. I don't know what you're talking about silly because I busted out laughing too when that lady jumped in the pool. and he's going No, no, no, no. It was like the editing of it was perfect. I know.

You saw it coming final destination style, right? Yeah, it was very final destination-y, for sure. I like the look of the monkey and the, as we said in the trivia, the switching out the symbols for the drums, because it just kind of added something kind of creepy to it with the drums, playing the drums, and spinning the sticks. turning the key whoever turns the key somebody dies you know i like that whole aspect of it

the twist you're talking about i don't think it was meant to be a twist okay because i i kind of saw it coming for a good portion of the movie so i don't i mean i don't know if it was supposed to be a twist if it was twist it wasn't a good one okay so you like you mean the voice gave it away for you kind Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm still kind of confused. Yeah, any, any, well, I don't think it was a twist. Maybe it was, yeah, maybe it wasn't supposed to be a twist.

I mean, but why did they have different actors playing the boys, though, is my question. I mean. Did they? Good question. I don't know. They might not have. I mean, they did look similar. True.

I mean, look at, you know, Christian. Convery as young Hal and Bill, the same actor. Oh, it was. And I thought... He's supermandus. I thought they did a great job. You know, James. Yeah.

Playing Bill and the... Was it Hal the main one we were following? And then Bill was the asshole? Yeah. Sounds about right. Yeah. I thought he did a great job distinguishing the two, you know, they're supposed to be identical twins.

And I thought he did a good job. And I thought the young actor that played the younger version did a good job. Well, now that you tell me that. I got a fool. I would have punched him in the face a long time ago. No shit. That's what he needed. I was like, dude.

I guess we'll get to it. That's not really a spoiler. But like, at your brother, you can punch your brother in the face. If you can punch anybody in the face, punch your brother in the face. Sure, sure. But yeah, anything else I'm going to get into spoilers. But I thought this was a refreshing new test. for Osgood Perkins.

All right. I think you're the majority, man. I had a lot of fun with this, but I can see it from both perspectives because it did sort of have like an identity crisis thing happening. Like, I didn't even know it was going to be a comedy. And then the first, like, when their kids is not even really. That comedic. You mean with the mom and... Yeah, like it's a little lighthearted and a little quirky and silly, but like...

Sure. They don't really go full-blown comedy until like halfway through the movie. And then even then, some of the jokes really don't land. But the kill scenes were great. And I had a lot of fun with all of those. This was like a comedy version, a final destination. Yeah, that's a great description. That's a good description.

Yeah, and I love the look of the monkey. Like, the little lip thing that it does before it lifts the drumstick is kind of what makes it. Yeah, just the overall look. If I would have found that box and opened it, I would have put the lid right back on. Yep. Just gave me the feeling of like, if you find like a keyboard. you just kind of leave it alone. Yeah.

It looked cursed. It definitely looked cursed. Definitely looked very like life, right? Very like life, right? Very like life. And I kind of like the message. Yeah? The like life message. You know? It's like life.

You never know what you're going to get. Yeah, true. No, it's life like your assholes. Yeah, all the characters were pretty over the top It was like He was like the only sane one moving through this world of Fucking insane people, you know Except him and his son

I gotta say he was sort of a shit dad On purpose But not very redeeming I don't know I mean in the world of horror comedy I mean this one sort of stands off in its own little weird corner because like you look at something like cabin in the woods where you know some of the kill scenes were hilarious right and uh and they have some really good comedy

in cabin in the woods and it works and uh this one is just it's it's got a different feel to it i feel like they sort of tried to do the same thing but maybe missed i don't know i still enjoyed it though and we'll and we'll get into some more stuff and spoilers because i do have something to say about the last scene i was like what the fuck yeah but whatever uh all right let's go scores lance what do you think four on 10 i didn't hate you this christ i didn't hate it four fours you didn't hate it no that's below it it would have been a one or a two well yeah it was A fellow average for me, but I didn't hate it. Okay.

I don't understand how members work anymore. Brian? Seven and a half. Seven and a half. All right. Yeah. Seven and a half is exactly what I was thinking. Right on. Okay. Fair enough.

I get it. I just, like, I liked the whole, the opening sequence was like, it was almost like one of those throwback 80s movies. Like, wow, goddam. What was that fucking show? show. Talking about like the kids, the kids together and all that? Yeah, kind of like an 80s throwback show or whatever.

And then they'll have like the voiceover going and narrating the whole fucking thing. Well, I was thinking of like the one Brian Cranston was in. But that was more like late 90s, right? Yeah. Malcolm in the middle. Malcolm in the middle. Yeah, a little like Malcolm in the middle because they had the little, the thing going on to. Maybe like that movie, I cannot believe.

Christmas story. With Fred Savage, what the fuck was that show? Oh, Wonder Years. Like Wonder Years, where they had the narration going over the whole time. And it just, it felt, it felt nostalgic to me, like that, that, that, that whole opening. And it, it sort of gave it a lighthearted feel and it felt good. Sure. And then, uh, once they started getting into the kills, which was the good part of the movie, I had a lot of fun.

So there wasn't a ton of downtime in this one. Right. All right. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Last scene, however. What was that fucking rider in the apocalypse or whatever it was? Was that necessary? Come on. I don't know. That was weird.

I mean, obviously he was trying to say something. I guess. All right, man. Maybe it went over my head. It didn't bother me. Death was acknowledging them, and they acknowledging that their fate is to watch over this monkey

forever until somebody else gets a hold of it. The monkey must be vanquished. You fucking vanquish it. He looked like he was tired. But the cast members I thought were kind of wasted was Adam Skye. and Elijah Wood. Oh, sure.

Just barely in it. Good point. At least they were in it. At least they were in it. Yeah, but I like those two guys. And when you have Elijah Wood in a movie for as a stepfather. Expert in his field. What was this field?

Did they ever even say? Psychology? I don't know. I mean, you introduce a. character like that. Right. Kind of want to see him and get it. Okay.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. They could have had a death scene with Elijah Wood at least. Missed opportunity. Maybe we'll get in the sequel. But all right. Question. What was the purpose of Adam Scott's scene?

Was that like a flashback to like the 1800s or the early 1900s were like, was he like the first victim? I think he was their dad. Yeah, I don't think he was that. Was he their dad? Yeah. Oh, fuck. I got to rewatch this movie.

I might have to give it a four and a half. I guess they don't exactly make it clear. To me, they didn't. Yeah, I'm looking on Wikipedia. It says in 1999, P.D. Shelburne attempts to return and destroy a drum playing a toy monkey at an antique shop. So that was 1999. And that was the year it started with the kids, right? Yeah.

So he. Okay. He was some kind of, yeah, I forgot what he, he's, I think he flew planes or something, and he found a monkey somewhere. Oh, yeah, this, this deserves the second watch by me, because I obviously missed some shit. Did you guys? The story is really not what we're here for. Yeah.

Did you guys see Oz Perkins, recognize him? No, who did he play? He was the uncle. Okay. The Swinger uncle. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. That was, and the aunt was Sarah Levy, Eugene Levy's daughter.

Oh, kidding. Okay. I kind of would have liked to see it a little Asian girl get it too. She was a bitch. Yeah. I thought when he turned the key, when he went home and turned the key when he came home with no pants or whatever scene that was. Yeah. I thought all them kids were going to die or something.

I know. You would think so, right? But it was, I will give it credit, it was unexpected that the mom got. it because it seems like whenever you turned a key thinking you're wishing certain person was going to die it just takes the person closest to you sure sure that makes sense which i wish we would have got more of uh what's her name tatyana mislani who played the mom she hulk oh is that it that is yeah yeah okay wish we got a little bit more of her wish we got a little bit more at adam scott yeah

Adam Scott and Elijah Wood I think would have been especially Elijah Wood they definitely because they had yeah it was only in the movie for like two minutes

and it was such an impactful scene and I was like oh I can't wait for you to die I know yeah then they left us down they loved us down yeah

or I mean or did they how far did the at the end scene when the whole town was just destroyed how far did that go well I don't know

it looked like Everybody fucking died. Is that what happened? Yeah, there was baseball was on fire. Yeah, because the monkey was gone, ba, bha,

blah, blah, blah, blah, like every time it hit a drum, it would kill somebody, right?

I did like to find the that's what I got from it. The bus full of cheerleaders. That was pretty great. That was so fucking surreal anyway. That was, that was bizarre how they would show up after all deaths in the day.

Yeah, yay. It was like, what the fuck? I think that was just the comedy. they were going for because I think I think his that was always the intention of the movie because he's been putting out little YouTube videos there's one that I posted where I guess he showed the death scenes to actual more people they're working the more okay uh-huh and they were like some of the scenes were like well yeah you know you would have to scoop up that guy in the sleeping bag but oh yeah other scenes they were like no it wouldn't happen like that but they were still kind of looking away like, this is fucking gross. Right.

That was a great one. My favorite was the exploding lady in the pool. Just because of the way that it came. It was like the first, no, I know it was totally unrealistic. I was like, that's not how it works at all. But because I wasn't expecting it, I'm like, oh, there's electricity in the water. She jumps in and gets electrocuted, whatever. Yeah.

And then she hits the water, explodes. And he gets this. You know, there's that moment of just blood and guts all over his face where he's just staring. And it killed me. I was like, oh, that's what we're going for here. All right. You just now set the tone for the movie. The real estate lady that opened the door to the closet and it was booby trapped with the gun.

Yeah, that was pretty great, too. Or flash forward when they were older, the aunt who went through all that stuff, getting sprayed at the face, the head lit on fire that ran out. ran into that, I don't know, part of the mailbox or whatever it was. Yes, yes. For sale, I guess it was a mailbox. I mean, even the Benihana scene was outrageous. Yeah, sure.

Yeah, but it was still fun. Yeah. Her head falls on the fucking on the grill. I can't believe she died. I was going to marry that woman. Oh, man. All right. Anything else, you guys ready to wrap it up.

What was the twist that you were talking about? Just that he was played by the same character? Yeah. But again, I got roped up. I could have sworn it was two different kids playing the boys. So he did a good job then. Or whoever did the make it. You mean when it was revealed that his brother was the one with the monkey?

Is that what you're talking about? Yes. Yeah, and that he was blamed him for the mother's death basically, right? That's what I mean. He's not wrong about. Yeah. Well, yeah. But not on purpose.

That's a little extra. If you really want to murder somebody that bad, just go murder him. Like, what are you doing with the monkey? How many people did the one guy kill with the monkey that was trying to get it back? The one that had all the bees flying to his mouth. Oh, that was a jolly alone looking dumbass. Yeah, he had the strange obsession with the monkey. So he must have used the monkey.

Yeah. He was a weird character. it didn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, see, I thought he was going to be... I thought he was going to be somebody big name that was hiding behind that bushy wig, but I looked him up and he's just been in a couple of things. I think he was like a Disney kid actor too or something.

Did you guys see the post-credit scene? No. No. Fuck, I didn't stay... I miss it. I missed the... I'm going to re-watch it. It's a... From what I understand, it's a clip of his next movie called Keeper.

No. It's like an exclusive little scene or teaser or something. So does it seem to still be going with a comedy, or is he going back to more slow burn, serious stuff? Let me pull it up real quick. Before we get out of here, Keeper is about, says,

upcoming American horror film, stars Tatiana Misalani. Okay. Nix Cage. Rousseff Sutherland. I think he's, I think that's Kiefer Sutherland as a younger brother. Huh. He hadn't seen Kiefer Sutherland or meant.

Malcolm and Liz set out on a romantic anniversary retreat to a remote cabin when Malcolm unexpectedly leaves for the city. Liz is left alone only to be confronted by a sinister presence within a cabin. Sounds like a cabin horror film. Sounds cool. I mean, you know. So whatever this post-credit scene was had to do with that movie. Okay. Well, no matter what, dude, I am going to rewatch this movie because there's definitely some things I want to go back and pay attention to the second time.

Four may have been a little harsh. I'll admit it because you're right, even though that, but that, see, when she jumped in the pool and that happened, it just took me out so much because I'm like, that's just ridiculous. But now that you mentioned it, I guess it was that way. Yeah, I guess it was that way by design. Fuck it. there was there was a couple that one and then the lady running into the sign with her head on fire were the two that that cracked me up i'll re i'll rewatch it and come back to you guys with a new score and then the week after have the lady the lady with the with the little carriage at the end it was on fire and she's running around all screaming screaming oh yeah the baby carriage that's crazy i was like damn they're burning babies and shit how'd the baby get on fire we could have made this movie a little bit longer. I kind of want to see what happened here.

Yeah, maybe there will be a sequel. It was under an hour and a half, I think. Yeah, it was, it was quick. Got in, got out. It's not like an awesome movie. It just, I had a lot of fun with it. Yeah. All right.

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All right. That's weird. Yeah. Birthday shout-out. Birthday shout-out. Happy birthday. To Nicole. So, uh, Philip, until the whore returns again.

Good night.