The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #462: Mad God (2021) Commentary

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

Lars from Denmark brings us the movie recommendation this week as we do a commentary for Mad God. Cool of the week includes Peter Pan's Neverland Nightmare, The Longest Yard, and The White Lotus. We give a shout out to Nick Roth for a 420 Hanky Panky event, and the podcast spotlight shines on Footage Foreplay and Horror Heads. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Lance, and with me as always, it's Philip and Brian. What's going on, guys? What's up, man? Hey, still live. Yeah, feels like it's been forever, right? So our last show was March Madness where we had a lot of guests on. And if you guys were listening to that show,

we appreciate you sticking through that first 30 minutes because we had a bit, it was a bit glitchy. Would you say, Brian? The first half hour of weeks. Some technical issues, but go check out the episode. The first time we ever had all three of the geeks on one show. Oh.

Big surprise of me because all that happened, what, Lance? In the last two hours before the show. And then, of course, we had Matt from... Sexy Matt Wood.

Yeah. Mr. Freebase himself, the DJ. We had Pedro hosting the show. So, he's basically one of the hosts anyway here. So, all right. So we're... Another guy we got to

pay homage to is our good friend, Lars, from Denmark. This date's been with us. since day one, episode one. And so Lars wanted us to do a movie tonight, a commentary. The last commentary he picked Cemetery Man was a lot of fun, wasn't it? He doesn't remember that. Oh, yeah.

I remember that one. It was a good one. Yeah, Cemetery Man was... That was a fun one. Tonight we're going to check out Mad God, which is all stop motion animation. So this could get interesting. It's one that I've always scrolled. passed in the in the way i don't know whatever it's on amazon or whatever and it looks really

interesting but uh i've never clicked on it yeah well we're gonna find out uh so you guys have a cool of the week uh i'll run through mine real quick i got i watched four new movies uh let's see first one is uh the rule of jenny penn with geoffrey rush and uh oh yeah the old folks home movie, right? Yeah, it's fine. It's probably something I'll never watch. It was well made, well directed, well acted. John Lithgow

is such an asshole throughout the movie. And it seems to be from what I see on Facebook. It's neither one of those movies you're going to love or you're going to hate. And which camper for you and, Brian?

I'm kind of right in the middle. Like I said, it does have some slow moments, but it also does have its interesting points. Like I said, the acting is pretty good. And if you want to see John Lithgow abuse other elderly people.

Okay. So if I had to rate it, I'd give it like a six, six and a half. Okay. He's got some range, man. He either plays like good John Lithgow or bad John Lithgow.

And they both work. Right. And he's doing an accent in this one. Oh. Like a German accent? Or what kind of accent? I can't necessarily tell. I think it's an English accent.

Like a lepricron accent? That would have been awesome. So that one's on shutter right now. Checked out the movie that we kind of got our episodes confused a couple weeks ago. Oh, yeah. You saw opus. Okay. What did you think?

It's fine. It's fine. He loved it. It's nothing too much special. I probably never watched this movie again. I thought it was well-made, well-acted. John Lithgow definitely fits the role of the eccentric cult leader pop star. John Lithgow, you mean...

I mean John Malkovich, sorry. Malkovich, that's right. Being John Malkovich, Brian. Yeah, it was fine. I probably give that one six. I gave it six and a half, so... Pedro was all mad at me. And only six and a half.

What? Yeah, I liked it. Two thirds, man. Kind of fell apart at the end. I wanted more action with the cult at the end than we did. Yeah, I kind of, they were kind of playing with you on. Is it a cult or is it not? And I kind of wanted the cult shit to come out of look sooner.

It's always a cult. It's always a cult. Let's see. I checked out. Do you guys know who Harmony Corinne is? He made spring breakers. He wrote that movie Kids back in the day. Oh, okay, yeah.

He came out with this experiment. It's called an experimental thriller called Baby Invasion. I think I like a first-person shooter, but virtual reality. But all the people involved in the game have baby faces to conceal their identity. What the fuck? That is weird. no kidding I have to give this one a one

out of ten not your cool of the week you would you would think that it's first person shooter you know how people just kind of do whatever they want chew people rob things, steal cars it was none of that

it was mostly a guy walking around picking up stuff with stuff going around going on in the background and I don't know. I was just, the projects the director has been involved in, you just kind of think this would be kind of pushing the line of being controversial or something like that. And it was the most tamest, forgettable waste of time. Oh, no. Sounds terrible, man. Bottom 10, it's already in there. Okay.

All right. Well, that means I have to watch it at some point, I guess. Yeah, what's it on, Brian? It's out there. Ah, okay. Baby invasion. Okay. But my cool of the week will have to be Peter Pan's Neverland Nightmare. I was surprised at how well this movie was done and how well it was acted,

and it had much more of a serious darker tone. This is in the Pooniverse or whatever they're calling it. Right. They're going to what? The Poon of the universe. I don't think that sounds like what it's supposed to be. This is connected to the Winnie the Poo Blood and Honey movies. Okay.

But it is, my opinion, on a different level than those two movies. Okay. Whoever directed this one needs to take over from now on. It had good gore. The guy that played Peter Pan was, I thought he did a great job. very creepy, very menacing. Really sinister, huh? It kind of played with you on the point of

is Neverland a real place, or is it just something made up? It kind of really played that. Let's go play in Neverland. And you know what, Phil, that's actually how he starts talking when he's talking about it. Stop it. He's kind of luring him in with his soft, quiet voice,

and then when they get closer, he's, you know. Peter Penn's a little bit of a creepy story if you think about it Yeah, that's true. That's true. So I was pleasantly surprised by this one. So that's my cool of the week. And that's also out there, huh? Are you got to go to the theater?

You can find it. Okay. I figured they ought to sign some deal with a streaming platform or something, or like, you know, shutters should jump out there and start picking up these, you know, yeah, the Pooniverse movies. The Pooniverse. I don't think that's. It's a thing.

It's got, it's also called, I don't know why it's got two nicknames. They also called the Twisted Childhood Fantasy Universe or something like that. That's even worse. Where's our people with the names on this thing? But I 100% recommend this one. It is some, it gets dark and twisted. Okay. I'll have to check that one out then.

Man, I, uh, I did not watch a whole lot this week. I had to definitely had a not cool week. Yeah. I had food poisoning on Monday. Oh, shit. That was fun. Uh, still had to go to work. Um, and, uh, I did watch, uh, the longest yard with that.

Adam Sandler with my kid yesterday and man that is a funny movie I forgot how good it was cheeseburger Eddie cheeseburger Eddie fucking everybody shows up Michael Irvin Romanowski for a Tracy Morgan is got me rolling in that movie Tracy Morgan and his prime Chris Rock fantastic Stone Cold Kevin Donkold. Yeah, Nelly. Nelly, yeah. Tracy Morgan. Yeah, dude, it was, it's, it was such a good time. I like those Adam Sandler movies.

I mean, you know, he's got a couple of stinkers in there that Jack and Jill one was terrible, but. It's pretty bad. He's got a happy Gilmore, too, coming out on Netflix. Oh, yeah, I know. I'm kind of excited about that. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, man, huge Adam Sandler fan. It was definitely a fun rewatch.

And that's about all I got, dude. I got kids sports going on. I don't have time for much. The longest yard, huh? Yeah. All right. Oh, I did start watching the White Lotus. But I'm only...

You stole my thunder, man. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm only a couple episodes in. But it's pretty good so far. Are you starting with the first season? Oh, no, I mean, of the new. season. Okay, but have you guys seen seasons one and two? Either, either, either one of you? I've only seen first season. Okay, stick with it, Brian. It gets better. Like, so I'm in season three,

and I think it's like the payoff season. And then you've got, like, because it's always a separate cast. So there's like, you know, the, the three girls that get together, let's see, it's a Leslie Bibb, Michelle Monaghan, and who's the third one, Philip? Do you remember? They're like on a girl strip and they start getting catty with each other. Yeah, and then you got the... They all look familiar. I've seen them and stuff, but I don't know, like, their names, except Michelle Monaghan. Yeah, and then you...

And then you've got the, like, the dysfunctional family from North Carolina, Jason Isaacs with his best North Carolina accent. And... It's ticking. Parker Post. Is this season? Hey, I was getting to that, dude. He's...

Okay, so I was going to set up the different group. So you got like this... Dis-Motional family from North Carolina. You get the three chicks on the girls' trip. You know, you got other random people. You got some people that came from prior seasons that pop back up in this one. But yeah, what takes the cake is Walton Gagas, man. He's fucking phenomenal.

Because he's there. It's like they're in Thailand. And it's like a health resort where they be like yoga and meditation and get massages and drink smoothies and shit. And he's out there smoking cigarettes saying, you go do what you want? I'm over here. but she tells something's going on

and the mystery kind of unfolds and he meets up with fucking Sam Rockwell in like the fourth or fifth episode and these two guys have a point yet those guys have a fucking scene this is my favorite television scene since uh remember

say my name where uh Walter White said you god damn right this is the best thing since then dude Brian you gotta if nothing else man at least check out that check out that scene between those two. Did you, did you watch it Philip when I send it to you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I watched that scene. Because Sam Rockwell is one of my all-time favorites. I love that guy. He can do no wrong. And he puts on one hell of a performance. I don't even know who he is. I keep watching the show waiting for this context to show itself

and he hasn't showed up yet. I mean, I have a feeling where it's going, but right, right. But I keep waiting for it and I'm like, ah, he needs to be the show more. But Walton Goggins is definitely killing it. He's up there too. Like, I'm loving everything

he's been doing lately. That freaking fallout? Fallout. Yeah. He was so good and fallout. Yeah. That's coming back pretty soon, isn't it? Brian? Yeah, I guess filming went by quicker than they thought, so we're going to get that

sooner than later. Cool. Nice. Yeah. Check it out, man. Oh, but when you were watching that scene, Philip, did he kind of pull you in? Like, he starts talking like, you think it's going to be a normal conversation. Yeah. And then it takes a left turn and just goes left and then left and then left and then left again. And then Walton Goggins with his reactions was like,

Oh, yeah. You got to see it. Where are we going with this? But it's hard to, it's hard to see season three if you haven't seen season one, because the setup with two of the characters from that one. I was going to ask you where the seasons connected. Yeah, they're connected by a couple of characters and a few little threads. But I'm nothing.

I guess it is sort of a central storyline, but not the central storyline. It's a weird fucking show, man. It is. Like, I don't know that I've ever watched anything like it. It's, it's, I'm not entirely sure what the point or the plot is. It just sort of goes. Yeah, it just flows, Brian. You'll check it out, man.

I will. All right, that's it. We still got some more stuff to cover, right, Philip? We're not doing trailers, I don't think, this week or news. Oh, yeah, okay, cool. So what do we got? Listener feedback? Yep.

Yes. All right. Let's see, listener feedback. We do need to throw in a special announcement. Our friend Nick Roth, co-director of Hanky Panky sent us this. I just feel like I have to say it like that. First of all, I want to say thank you again for having me on your podcast and letting me

plug my movie Hanky Panky last year, which is way better than it sounds. Check it out. I can't say how much it means to me and the team that we're going to be doing a little social media. Oh, oh, sorry. Can't say how much it means to me and the team that anybody let it alone a professional film person would take the time to take our incredibly silly movie even a little bit seriously. Also, thank you for the shirt, which I do wear. We're going to be doing a little social media

campaign leading up 420 this year and would tremendously appreciate if you could maybe repost about the episode or simply like and share anything you see us post that week. We'll be posting something every day from Monday, 414, up to Sunday the 20th. Look for all the links on our socials, yes definitely go look for nick nick roth and hanky-panky that they were fantastic when we talked to them about the movie and uh it it's it's it's it's a low budget silly stupid horror movie but it's so much fun definitely horror comedy right yeah it looks like it's gonna be really bad but then it like dips into this other level where you're like hey wait a minute these guys are actually pretty

funny. So, yeah, check that one out. And we do still want to throw some love at our fellow podcasters. We have to catch up from last week, so we have two podcast spotlights. First is footage for play. Ooh, good name. Footage for Play is a podcast hosted by Terrell, Russell, Evan, and Oxana that focuses on horror and physical media, offering unfiltered reviews, hot

takes and deep dives into the world of found footage horror. And also horror heads. The Horrorheads podcast hosted by Rich and Jerry is a horror movie podcast where they discuss a wide range of scary movies from slasher's to supernatural horrors while drinking bourbon. Hey. That sounds about right. So definitely check those out. You know what we ought to do, dude, is have some kind of contest.

to rename the Puneverse. Sure. I'm just thinking that. Anything would be better. Because I'm looking at the horror heads footage foreplay. I'm like, those are good names. The Pooniverse?

I don't know. Not so much. But that's it for listening to feedback this week. As always, our show intro and new logos come from Steve Carlton from the geeks. You know him. And original skull artwork comes from not Zulani, you can find her on Instagram.

And if you'd like to help us out, please consider becoming a Patreon patron. And we'll let you pick the movies for a future show and at any amount. And for $5 or more a month, also pick a commentary for a future bonus show like today. All right. On to 2021's Mad God. The Assassins, the Assassin travels through a nightmare underworld of tortured souls, ruined cities and wretched monstrosities forged from primordial horrors. There you go. That guy can write a name for the Booneverse.

Yeah, there you go. That's a good description. Director and writer is Phil Tippett, also known for stop motion animation on Jurassic Park and Star Wars. Was there stop motion on Jurassic Park? Yeah, I think there was. Somewhere. I don't remember. according to Phil Tippett, lots of work on the film was done on Saturdays by students who wanted to get some filmmaking experience.

The scene with the mountain of dead soldiers was done by melting thousands of little army men together on wire, and it took six people three years to complete the scene. Holy crap. I was like, oh man, that must have been really fucking fun for these students to get into making these little action dudes and actually making a movie out of it. but three years that's crazy um over the years phil tippet released three short clips of this movie uh which made up about half of the full 82 minute version that was eventually screened at various film festivals all righty where can we find mad god is it out there somewhere i mean i know it's out there somewhere because we're fixing watch it but uh is it readily available it's a good question on shutter.

On shutter. All right. So if you guys want to follow along, let's do it. Let me share my screen here and I'll see if we can get us going. And then just holler at me if it's getting too loud or something. What I'm all going for? All right.

I'll put you guys up in the corner here. So I think there's a little black square there. All right. And I'm on zero. So we'll go three, two, one. Oh, IFC. Of course it's on Shutter, right? Yeah. Makes sense.

They've got some decent stuff, man. Oh, yeah. There we go. Bomb, boom. I like it. It's like the Law and Order thing. That's right. That's like a Monty Python intro or something.

It did sound like it. Holy grail! Is this all stop motion or is there like CG involved? I don't know. I think it's all stop motion. Probably all if it took them three years to do that one scene. Which kind of makes it more impressive. I'm sort of excited to watch this, although I should have had a giant one.

Yeah, definitely. If not a hit an answer. That felt very Monty Python. So was somebody on the top of that pyramid or whatever, right? Lightning struck them? A wrathful god, huh? Discipline you sevenfold for your sins. Oh, no, the crawls gone too fast.

You shall eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters. I will destroy your cult places and something parkis is on our lifeless. idols. The text is too fucking weird to be doing this this fast. Exactly. A couple of minutes to it just to do the text more slowly.

You shall become a desolation and your city's a ruin. Leviticus 26-27. Ah, can't be just read the Bible. Yeah, Leviticus is very wrathful. God is pissed in that one. I take it that God is pissed in that one.

The passage we just read, right? Yeah. Looks pretty cool so far. I know, dude. I'm liking the visuals. I think my problem was always I didn't know whether I really wanted to make the commitment to sit down and watch an entire stop motion movie. Yeah, understandable.

But the good thing about stop motion is that you, it's kind of like animation, right? Like when you draw something, you can make it look however you want. Yeah. And it's not cheesy like CGI tends to get sometimes. That's true. You know, so it looks like it has heft. Yeah, it's kind of like practical CGI, I guess. That's a great way to describe it, man.

I hadn't thought of it that way. It's like the original CGI, right? Yeah. Now, this is very Pink Floydish to me. Get that vibe of like the wall or something? Oh yeah. Phil, look, why didn't we drop assing? Is this the assassin?

Looks like it. Probably, right? Dead birds in the cage? I don't think that canary made it. No, canary in the... Oh, I'm sorry. I was going to say, I have a feeling this is going to be a lot of stuff that's going to go over our heads. Probably so.

But I think Phil nailed it. That was a canary in the coal mine, right? I guess so. I'm not sure where he's going here. I wonder if anybody ever talks in this movie or if it's just visual. I think it's just visual. Oh. Well, I guess that means it's okay to talk over.

Yeah. Oh, definitely. Brian, you finally got around to watching that movie Stop Motion last year, right? Yeah. See, that's another one I'm curious about, because stop motion stuff is a little creepy. It is. Yeah. How was that one?

Is it any good? It was pretty good. Yeah. They definitely make stop motion creepy in that one. Yeah. It's like that. It always reminds me of that tool video.

Sober? Yeah. Those look like giant bones. Dinosaurs or something. I like the music. Definitely dinosaurs. Just about to say that. I think the music's pretty cool.

Yeah. I mean, they take their time with it, but it's art. What's up? Phillip, you remember when you and I went to San Antonio and checked out Anderson, Brifford, Waitman, and Howe, doing all the, all the yes songs? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw Rick Waitman. I saw Rick Waitman in concert last night. Oh, yeah? It was just him. Yeah, one man's show. He played his electronic keyboard for half the show, and he played a grand piano for half the show. Oh, okay.

And you heard of Rick Wakeman, Brian? No. The keyboard player, he got started playing for David Bowie, like in the late 60s, early 70s. So he plays on like the original recording of Life on Mars. Okay. And space oddity. So he did those on the piano. And he was with Yes for probably about five or six different albums.

He did a, you know, kind of like a medley of Yes songs. and he mixed in 30 different yes songs. What is that? Is that an alien? It looks like it's coming down to pick something up. No, the giant fucking skullhead up here. Oh, I didn't see that. Yeah, it was weird looking.

There's so much shit going on on the screen, dude. It's fucking hard to keep up with everything. What's with the light that they're lowering? Yeah. Like exploring before they go in there? Looks like he's going down to the wasteland. he's got some kind of gas mask on canaries did

but not just dead like it's bones so I'm not sure how that works like maybe you should have turned around a long fucking time ago dude it's gonna look like mushrooms a little bit huh what if that's intense there he is

I think I think this is the assassin Brian okay I don't know what he's here for it doesn't look like there's much to assassinate. No. Well, you know, that movie The Gorge, right?

That started off. Nothing there. Well, no, there was stuff right at the beginning, wasn't there? Yeah. Yeah. I gotta say that looks pretty cool for stop motion. It does, yeah. Like the movement is really smooth.

Well, that I did not expect. A couple little gnomes. Is that a map? I don't know what the hell it is. All right, you are here. You got to go all the way up there. Oh, is he like in the bones of some giant thing? Maybe he's in the belly of a whale.

Could be. Maybe he's in the belly of the beast. Yeah. Oh. Beast eats a lot of tires. Predator blood right there. Is it Robbie the robot? What am I watching?

Good question. That's crazy. It's the invisible man. The invisible man, yeah. It's just missing some legs. Everybody's fucking weird in this movie. Is that a bust of Beethoven? It looks like it.

Oh, he caught him one. Yep. But Lieutenant Dan, you ain't got no legs. But you got dinner at least, right? Yeah. Is that like the house of sand or something? All kind of sinful things going on in there? I don't know, this thing looks weird.

It's got like human teeth. Man, it's got like big weird, monstered alien titties. Yeah, like the thing from Barbarian. Oh yeah. The circle of life. Everything has both predator, both predators. Both predator and prey. Man, I bet this did take a shitload of work.

Yeah, I'm reading here. From when he first started with the idea, he's been working on this in some former fashion for 30 years. Holy crap. That a monkey? Looks like it. And... Some kind of weird salamander.

What is that? Monster guinea pigs. All right Okay That's pretty creepy There's your tool video Philip Yeah It's a whore doll

Like barking But on crack You guys want a little tripe while we're watching it Sure sure All right Says Phil Tippett's new film Mad God took third This is from screen ramp

It took 30 years to make And the tale of its creation Is a wild story Tippett's work is highly regarded of the movie industry, such as in the original Star Wars trilogy, where he helped develop the animation for Tongans and At-Awalkers. Oh, okay. Let's see.

Bad God is a stop-motion animation horror movie about a mass character called The Assassin. The film chronicles the Assassin's Journey through nightmarish landscapes, which should turn are populated by grotesque and monstrous creatures. Mad God is something of a unique proposition in that it has almost no dialogue in the the fine story doesn't necessarily drive the film. Throughout mad, Godd, it's clear that the movie

is less interested in presenting a narrative and foreign immersing the viewer in the nightmarish world. That's super gross. So there's giants being electrocuted and shitting through a hole in a chair.

This map was starting to fall apart. I saw that less less interested in narrative and more interested than visuals I get that it's gross what are they doing they're using it to make something

Soilet greenish people Oh god Is that the thing That's not the thing that was walking around Okay That's terrible Oh man that's weird looking Like eyeballs

Detached eyeballs hanging down And sacks that are breathing and stuff. It is inside a body, right? I'm not sure if any of it really makes any sense. It's all just totally random gross shit. I mean, it looks cool. Yeah, it looks very cool. I can see why it took 30 years. Yeah. Well, because not only do you have to make all this shit out of, I don't know, clay, I assume.

But then you got to make it move. Yeah, don't you like pose it? and then take a picture and then repose it. Yeah. I guess so. Well, you know, that's why people don't do the frame-by-frame animation cells anymore, you know? Yep, makes sense.

Too much, too much like work, right? Slyder Man. This would have been a better Slender Man than the movie that we got. That's for damn sure. Oh, it's already better. Oh, it says, uh, guys, it says Tippet constructed Mad God's world painstakingly in between

his efforts on other films such as creating Starship Troopers' giant insect aliens and he officially began filming Mad God while working on Robocop 2. So there you go. Oh man. It's a long time ago. That really put some perspective on it. I mean you say 30 years

and that sounds like a long long time so yeah he started out when he was making Robocop 2. Oh shit. Not the one with Joel Kinnaman. What is that? Like a slug. Nuclear reactors.

Or cooling towers, right? They like workers? Looks like it. Okay. That was a bad idea. Are they like fuel? I guess. Looks like they're the fuel, huh?

So they make these molds of weird, semi-people thing? and then just... Oh, okay, they just make little slave people and then squish them and stuff. They squish. I squish your head. What are they made of?

Just twigs and mud? Ah, that's what they are. Created man from mud. That's what it is. And they're building the pyramid, right? Or something. It looks that way. Created man from mud.

Yeah, I look. looks like they are making a pyramid. Uh-oh. Big Brother is watching. Oh, wow. Oh, so the aliens did help make the pyramids, Philip. Uh-huh. That's how they were able to lift the stones.

Are these, like, sandworm babies or slugs or what? Like maggots. They're going to cut one open and it's going to be gross. You can see it now, huh? Oh. grinding it out there you go that guy shouldn't have been

standing there yeah what you said the wrong place they're not very smart little slave things are they no not really I guess it doesn't matter if you're just constantly just reprinting

them out oh no that guy's fired you wouldn't hire him to work for you as the electrician don't put that dude on a forklift scooping up the goo huh what's this for

oh that's just a shitload of bodies for reprocessing maybe yeah recycle I guess so are those real bones like teeth and Phil Tipp it's been collecting them for years what is that is bizarre what is that you can see the bones

under it dude It's like Jabba the Hut But with a A vagina mouth Yeah, I wonder If this guy designed Jabba the Hut, do you think? Oh, baby

The safety is really not first here. These guys need a unit. 13 seconds without an accident. Jesus Christ. It's like, they're just walking into stuff. Safety is not first. What the fuck is happening here?

Oh, no. They're not ocean. It's a little bit like that thing at the end of the substance. A little bit, yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's more of them. Except the substance creature didn't shit on somebody. Yeah, that's true.

That is one big difference. Why is it a baby? When you were talking about Brian, baby invasion. or whatever? Baby invasion, wish it was a percentage as interesting as this.

So, so far, we're all recommending this movie, right? Oh, for the visuals alone and just what he was able to do over that period of time. It's impressive. It's something different.

It's definitely different. It's like a Peter Gabriel video here. Yeah. sledge hammer maybe they're so like stupid that they have to have a baby talk to them

it could be that makes sense well I mean I assume that it may be going somewhere but if somewhere is as weird as the rest of the movie then I don't know if we're even going to understand it see he's still losing his man

yeah well he just threw the rest of it away that's it no more map he's on pure instinct now you think he's a person or is he like a creature oh good call

maybe he's one of those things yeah you can't really tell because it's like totally covered up that is the grossest thing ever he's got like boob testicles mipples that it shits all over. It wasn't a very good design.

It's different. Yeah. Not something I've ever seen before. Oh, for sure. Okay, so now he's going down into the bowels of the underworld, right? I guess. What's in the box? Watch your step.

A lot of things get stepped on in this movie. Yeah. It's a lot of shit on those steps. Yeah, there's a lot of shit in this movie. Very fecal, huh? Yeah. I couldn't even imagine the smell. I'm glad I don't have food poisoning today.

I felt so shitty for an entire day, and I was just like, I couldn't, I didn't eat anything for like almost two days. that's that's the worst yeah lost a few pounds I'm sure you did but dude I don't know if I could handle this movie yeah I might push you over the edge what's all that liquid goo on all the the stalactites and stuff

more gross is that even what they are it's the goo from black Christmas oh no I forgot Even the whole plot What a throwback That was a deep cut, Philip In more ways than one

I had to think about it for a second I was like black goo Oh yeah Unfortunately We had to do a commentary for that movie At Christmas I don't know if people want to let's just get angry The black goo was

toxic masculinity creeping in and taking over all the men. Yeah. That was I don't think it's a very intelligent way to portray that. That's the point they were trying to make. It was lost on me.

If we do a commentary on that we had to have NAS on so he can defend it while he holds up his blue ray. Oh, that's right. All he holds up the Blu-ray. Okay. This is something we can we can know what it is dynamite we know what dynamite is

something coming up behind oh whoa that hell that was kind of cool yeah but see like some of this stuff has like tubes and wires and shit yeah that one look more like cyborgs could be yeah some of them probably kind of reminded me of that movie uh what was it called hardware Yes, I remember that one. Did that guy make...

Yes. Lost Souls. Oh, man, the Australian director. Help us out here, Philip. Dude, I don't know. We really know our shit, don't we? You're the go-to guy for Australian directors, Phil. I couldn't tell you the guy in the name of this director,

and we've been talking about him for half an hour. Richard, Richard Stanley. Yeah, that's a good movie. And he's not Australian. He's South African, South African. They're pretty close. They both got like an almost British accent. Yeah, close enough, right?

Are these like actual people watching this? Oh, Brian, guess what? Oh. There is a, there's a, Richard Stanley has a movie. It says it's in production, in development. It's called M. malware. You think it might be a sequel? If it is, I'd definitely watch it.

Yeah, I'm not at to watch hardware. I've never seen it. And it says he's going to redo the island of Dr. Moreau the way he wanted to do it. Unfortunately, he can't use Val Kilmer now. Rest and Yeah, Rest and Feats. I was watching a video that somebody made of him. He's had so many great performances. Yeah. He has, man. That dude was like a legit actor. like not just playing himself in every movie

like he really threw himself into the role he wasn't just like Negan right he's like Negan in every role well that's why I was talking about John Lithgow like I mean John Lithgow does have range but he kind of just plays John Lithgow but it's either good John Lithgow or bad

John Lithgow yeah I can see that that's maybe not really true I think he's probably a better actor than that You can you get the dad from Harry and the Henderson's? Yes. Or the Gemini killer from Dexter.

Yeah. Harry and the Henderson's is one of my all-time classic favorites. I watched that movie a hundred times growing up. That's good practical effects right there. Mako. Yeah. What is happening now?

Everything has eyes where it shouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. And Brian, this is like something that you would have seen on MTV. back in the early days, like, late at night, or like on night flight. Liquid television? Do you remember that?

Yes, yes, I do. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Liquid television. I don't think I ever, I may have... Liquid television. I didn't have cable when I was growing up, but my grandma did. And so when I got to stay over at her house, I would stay up late watching MTV. Oh, yeah.

Grandma might not have approved Liquid Television. Oh, yeah, my grandma was... It's like adult animation. My grandma was the most enabling person ever. She never said no. It's why my dad is the way he is. But she's pulled the shit out of me. Right?

I like the way it looks now. It's kind of got an old-timey, scratchy film look to it. Got a grindhouse. Yeah, but we're like so zoomed in, I can't tell what's going on. It's a eyeball. It looks like he's on an operating table. And there's some x-rays.

There's a picture of the doctor. Is this the assassin? Could be. Oh, this may be the assassin's backstory, right? Or, well, I mean, he just got, like, chomped by that cyborg thing. Maybe they took him here. Okay, I think you're right. I think you're following the story better than we are, Philip.

I'm trying to understand it. What very little there is to understand. Now, those look like people. That's not clear. A little incision right here and right here. Their hands don't look particularly steady. You're kind of bouncing around all over the place. Oh, you're not supposed to go all the way down.

Yeah, no. I have no idea what's going on. And there's a tool for that to open up the rib cage, but apparently you just use your hands. So I had no idea what I'm doing. Here, nurse, hold this. He is elbow deep. What are you doing?

What's the point, right? Is he looking for something? I don't know, Lance. I don't know if they're. is a point. Did he eat a bunch of corn? Oh, is he

he's finding shit in there, huh? Coins and jewelry. He's a treasure finder. The doctor? The guy's ate all. Doctor, Dr. Treasurer.

What the fuck? Really? But he's like throwing it all to the side, right? Or is he going to keep it? That's his money pile. I guess.

Maybe he's looking for something in particular, but he doesn't seem to be... That was my thought. That was my thought. The map. Ah, damn it, that's not the map. Yeah, not interested in any. I'm confused, because now I'm thinking, is this how the assassin got the map? Was they got a hold of one of these creatures?

Oh, maybe. Could be. It makes as much sense as anything, right? That's an awful lot of shit that you're not supposed to eat in this, inside this thing. Like, we're going a little past the realm of possibly. What is that? Like parasites or something? What the hell was that?

Octopus leg. That one still had. Wow. We found it. That's what they were looking for. It's a boy. fucking Lars, man. He got us good on this one.

The Miracle Childbirth. Weird way to deliver a baby. Whatever works, right? Subtitles save baby crying, so. It's like a facehugger or something. I guess we didn't really need subtitles on this movie. Nah, not really. That's all right. That looks painful.

Babbard ears. I was just about to say, is he about to watch TV? Nothing like a little Sionfeld after a good day's work. Mm-hmm. A couple of Vikings out the snow. Where are we now? Gorge. Yeah, it looks like it.

Ah, Satan. Is that Hitler in front of me? Was it? No. I don't know. I don't know. Are you serious? It looks like you give the little Hale Hitler thing in something.

sort of outfit. So this is hell then? You don't think this is hell? It do kind of have a Nazi look to them. Yeah. Maybe. I was thinking maybe he's like fighting his way through the underworld or something. Seven layers of hell.

There's something going on. Angels the way that they're described in the Bible have eyeballs in weird places. Really? Yeah. Yeah, no, they're like the... It's all mixed in then. Yeah, they're, they, They don't make sense.

Oh. Oh, yeah. There was a Nazi officer, and then there was a guy sodomizing another guy. They're definitely in hell. Nazis means hell, Philip. Remember? Oh, for sure.

Maybe the Nazis unleash hell. Ah. And the assassin is from the other side, trying to prevent it from taking over could be the Nazis were into some weird shit somebody very much

cut their toenails yeah yeah you guys remember overlord oh yeah with uh with Wyatt Russell the good white Russell movie right yeah did Jerry Springfield

is it looks like it yeah Jerry Springer yeah that's one man Jerry Springer we're gonna get dialogue So my daughter was watching my strange addiction on whatever streaming thing. And I walked in and first of all, there's all kinds of people that just eat weird things that don't make any sense. Like couch cushions or laundry detergent, which seems like a really bad idea.

No kidding. And they're like addicted to it. But there was this one lady who had finger nails that had been growing for 25. fucking years. And she does she does them all up. Like she paints them and all that stuff, but it's literally like, you know, you've seen them in the Guinness Book of World Records and shit, right? Or they all like

curled? Yeah, they get all curly and weird and it's just like this big blah. And they actually addressed the question that everybody has, how do you your ass with those things? Right? She shows it. She's like, well, I put my toilet

paper on like this and, you know, I go to town. go to town. It's just wraps it around the edge of the finger. Not a visual I want right now, man. Especially watching this movie too. Oh, look, you found a map. Dude, the treasure.

But I can't imagine how much of a hassle it would be just walking around with those fucking talons. It's got to be a pain of the ass, dude. Like this, look at him. He can't even. He has to do this the whole time. Yeah, it's just dumb is what it is. If you ask me.

A lot of people do stupid things, you know. they like the long nails what are you gonna do i guess now if they were like out straight that might be kind of cool you could be like wolverine but you know curl around yeah but when

yeah but like especially the natural ones when they start getting real long they get like gross and kind of yellow underneath and it's I know I know I mean she looked like a clean person like she cleans them and shit

she said it takes like an hour to wash her hands Jesus Christ seems like a wizard Okay, so he's sending him down to the next layer of hell. This is some Nazi dude. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Did we just watch the beginning in the middle of the movie?

I think so. It's definitely nonlinear. Blow your mind a little bit and then give you a little bit of context. Okay. He's a Nazi wizard. So can we assume this guy's like a Nazi scientist? or something like Joseph Mingolay. Making show.

Or NASA. But he's wearing a Yamaka. Oh, yeah, all right. So maybe not. All right. Yeah, I'm lost. I might have to do one of those deep dive. Find, like, YouTube videos about this movie. Get some sort of context.

Yeah. Yeah, but anything if it's not, you know, the actual creator, it's just going to be speculation anyway, right? I mean, just, like, one's interpretation of it. Well, but sometimes you hear somebody's interpretation and you go, oh. Now I get it. Yeah, yeah.

Well, I guess he's not a mud man. But he could be a Nazi. I did not see that coming. I'll see myself out. Yeah, there's the White House on the left. like a oh was there there's a New York New York Museum of Natural Science right there or no the library right the library in New York I didn't see the Lions though or is this a different guy oh maybe the last one got eaten and so they sent another

one I guess so can't use that yeah because it doesn't have he doesn't have the same like mass thing on I think this is a different guy so instead of the assassin it's the assassins. Oh, maybe. Maybe this is the assassins. That person was a trial run, or what? Yeah. Okay. That looks like a virus.

That's what a virus is shaped like under a microscope. Really? Yeah. Okay. I'm sure that wasn't accidental, you know? Yeah. So I'm going to say, if you get to really get close to the screen and look at, to see it, little detailed things in the background. Was this movie ever put on the big screen, Brian? I would imagine it probably got some kind of limited, maybe festivals or something.

Yeah, that might be the way to see it. Oh, for sure it got festivals. That's where this thing belongs for sure. I mean, you don't get more art house than this. No, not really. unless it was a banana tape to a wall there's viruses everywhere and demons getting jerked off

by weird bird women harpies that's what it is that's what it is harpy's absolutely absolutely there's a little army jeep there a little robot in the background

1950s style robot Yeah, he's getting in his army jeep Gonna hot wire it Of course there's no engine and no battery But yeah Okay We're going there Okay, thank you for the

Like how he just assumes everything He just assumes everything to turn on Yeah He's hot wiring it I guess there is an engine Okay, I stand corrected Radio works I love how everybody in movies

Always know how to hotwire a car Like Yeah I can't imagine it's that simple. Especially now. Grab two wires and touch them together. Just grab them out of the dash and boop.

Bam, you're off. It seems like a super easy way to steal a core. Not any specific wires. I found a tracker in my fucking truck, dude. What? What? Yeah. Like I pulled up a, uh, I was replacing this door sill plate.

And I pulled it up and in the wiring harness, so I was like, what the fuck is this thing? And I looked up the serial number on it and it's a tracker that the dealer probably put in there In case you take those off Pretty sure there's well, I don't know I don't know. I guess a lot of I guess a lot of them are doing it now. So if you don't make your payments Mm-hmm, find you Ah, that makes sense. Yeah, that does make sense and so where was the tracker? Look these motherfuckers

Mine was mine was underneath the door sill plate, but I think that's a lot of these motherfuckings Mine was underneath the door sill plate, but I think it has a wire that runs up and plugs into the back of the OBD. So would you need to cut the wire and throw it out? No, it's just a connector. I just pulled it off and unscrewed the plate and pulled out the SIM card, and I've got it sitting in my truck now. Trying to figure out what to do with it. Yeah. Put it on something, huh, so you can track it.

I'm like, what would you track it through? I don't know. That's what I'm like, if I can get a hold of the data and, like, log it. into it or something. Or if it could be used if my car was stolen or something, then I'd be inclined to put it back in. But the fact that it's there and nobody fucking told me about it, yes.

No, thank you. I like that. Yeah, that's like those old Spider-Man cartoons where he used to throw the little spider thing and it stuck on the guy's car. Yeah. Pull his little handheld computer out. You remember that? Yeah.

Yeah. now people put them damn air tags on your shit yeah yeah it's true we gotta get some of those for the luggage yeah uh they actually have i found a like a license plate holder that has like a like a secret stash spot behind it for an air tag so that you can track your car in case it gets stolen or something that is not a bad idea although it seems like if somebody's going to steal your car one of the first things they do is take the license plate off so take the license

that works that's probably worst possible place to put it right yeah that's a good point a lot of skulls on pikes mm-hmm from glad the impaler he's the next that is exactly what it is yep i don't think that's what it is all that's glad the impaler i mean it looks like it although maybe uh world war two memorabilia right like an old bomb yeah

like a good tank there yeah explosions it's like yeah they're in the stoop mm-hmm like

eerily reminiscent of that scene in the Terminator I wonder if he did that scene I'm gonna look it up and I oh yeah good point let's see he was in the first movie

right I think so I can't remember If a giant monster If we zoomed in on the skull on the ground And some giant monster crushes it with his foot Oh it is yeah It would make sense if he did it

Because even the way the Like sparks are flying around It looks the same Yeah very very similar right Like too similar This doesn't seem particularly safe Couldn't you go around I don't know it seems like he'd drive faster or something

and he's just like cruising through this war zone with his little Jeep. Okay, it does not show that he worked on the Terminator guys. Huh. So maybe he was inspired by that scene, right? Yeah. Paying homage to it, let's say. We'll go with that. Oh, he's working on that, he worked on that one episode of that show,

Poker Face, the one with Natasha Leon. Have I told you all about that one? We're each different episodes of mystery. Like a who done it? Oh, I've heard of that. I think my parents were watching it. They said it was pretty good. Yeah.

It's, um, let's see. It is, yeah, it's created by Ryan Johnson. And, uh, it is going to be premiering season two. It says season two premiere Thursday, May 8th. I'm looking forward to that. You know, Ryan Johnson. He's good at mysteries, man. Yeah, he's like, he's, stay out of Star Wars.

He's going to forever have that blemish on his name for Star Wars, but... Sure. I mean, if you take the Star Wars out of it, it wasn't a bad movie. I don't blame him. It just, yeah. Oh, he got a big payday, right? He just, he just fucked around with Star Wars. They let them, they let them make that movie, so...

You can't just do whatever the fuck you want in a thing that's already there. You know what I mean? Good point. Well, the thing I always didn't understand is why they didn't have directors set for the trilogy. Yeah. Kind of seemed like they were naming directors after the previous film came out. Just winging it. And that makes no sense, right?

They're like, hey, Marvel did this thing. Let's do it. And we're going to hire... Who's that awful lady? Kathleen Kennedy. To test all rules apart. I swear every time I hear about her getting fired, she ends up getting like a promotion. I know. I don't understand it. She's got some dirt on me. She knows all of Disney's little secrets.

Yep. Every time a bad Star Wars movie comes out, they blame her. Disney gives her a promotion and a bonus. I know. like a very big majority of the fan base for the movies that you are making hate you why is she still involved I'm waiting for them to announce the big middle finger to the fans by having her direct the next one oh I know Star Wars Black Christmas

no no starring Imogen Poots Take that back Hey, I don't blame Imaging Poots for that movie I do like her Yeah, she's cool Oh, that's a hell of hairball Is that the same baby? Yeah, I think maybe we're back to the baby part

Is that a real human or a See, I don't know that that one is Maybe it is It's distorted though, right? No, I think she was just A little weird looking weird Yeah, I guess. Not a bad way, but you know.

Yeah. Kind of like a French hooker way, huh? Yeah, get closer. Get closer to the thing with tentacles. What is that? Oh, it's like a weird plague doctor thing. Is it saying spells? I don't know.

That thing is cool looking. A little surprise, she didn't get squished like everybody else. She was the lucky one. I don't know, now's the time taking that. That's like a child sacrifice, but it's a baby hairball thing that they pulled out of some dude's stomach. So I'm not sure. You don't know if that qualifies, so. What the fuck is that?

Like death walking or what? Yeah, he sort of floats. Parting the Red Sea, huh? I can see why Lars picked this one. Lars is a very artsy guy. Yeah. He's in the film. Oh, speaking of the pyramids, did you hear that they, like, they use some sort of radar technology, and they're pretty convinced that they found these, like, giant pillars with some sort of spiral shape underneath the pyramids that go, like, kilometers deep.

No! Yeah, into a room that's, like, real big. Now, I like the... Spiral pillars? Yeah, it's... The only way they're going to know for sure is if they, you know, send a scope down there or something, which they're very opposed to digging. But I don't know.

It was some new technology, so I'm not entirely sure I'm buying it. Right. There's obviously more to the pyramids than what we know. New structures discovered under pyramids. I'm reading it right now. Yeah, it's some wild shit. Oh, potential hidden city. So the pyramid might be just the top of it.

it then yeah maybe something underneath like this mad god world or oh this is brand new news too or maybe some sort of power generation thing i don't know hmm it's gozer yeah Ha ha ha ha ha ha ghost her So what is it the keymaster and the gatekeeper? Yes, that's right, that's it Brickin Rick Moranus, dude I miss him I heard he's supposed to do some movie

Oh yeah I think he told me that Yeah I think he's making I forgot what it was I'll be excited to see him return He's probably the oldest shit now I haven't I don't even know what he looks like anymore. That looks pretty fucking cool. I gotta give it to him. Mm-hmm. Well, 30 years in the making, you know?

Yeah. It's just like a weird worm with teeth. Mm-hmm. I just sent you guys a picture of what Rick Moranis looks like now. Pretty much the same. Is he? Yeah. Look at him. He looks good. Get him, Rick. Little older, little balder, but about that, that's about it.

Sure. Yeah, we all get older and balder, that's for sure. Except Tom Cruise, right? It's all that baby's blood. Yep, I was going to say, he's, that's Tom Cruise behind the plague mask here. That's what I thought. Drinking angel tears. That's why, what's the name, saw some stuff.

that's why she got out of that marriage I'm sure it was yes Tom Cruise has for sure got some demons man there's something weird going on in his personal life kaiju fight

uh huh everything has boobs or eyeballs for shit lots of liquid Yeah. Does everybody in this movie have diarrhea? It sure looks that way. Flash of the Titans.

And weird floppy penises. I was about to say it has a dick. That's around. Lunchtime. Lunchtime. Rock them, sock them robots. That guy just looks like a little warped. Shocking him.

You got a little happiness. Oh, no. this happening. I can't stop looking at that thing's penis. Quit and beating each other in the head and do some shit. Scoop up this pile of shit and move it over here. Now shovel this. Cool, motherfucker.

Poking them in the eyeball. That may be worse than sucker punching somebody in the nuts. Like some kind of lab. Laboratory, yeah. Dr. Frankenfurter, maybe, huh? It's the little work guy. Oh, I'm going to get some fish or flins up. It's feeding something, right?

That's some crazy psychedelic colors there. Oh, yeah, somebody's tripping at this point. Listen to what the flower people say. What the fuck? The maggots all over everything? things called there's their mealworms yeah yes meal worms

and they're eating them or something they put them in their ears or the that looks like an asshole I would have some mouth wait a minute are they in like it are they supposed to be in Zanada dude like it's a pleasure down or something

I watch that movie a shitload of times growing up too what the fuck is this peaceful music, mushrooms, right? Weird little

E.T. guys and aliens. He didn't, he didn't even tell his friend. I know. That was a dick move. Ah, shit. They haven't got any force.

Yeah, they're having a T-car. You're playing guards. He's got a butthole for a mouth. He's sound like Benny from Benny loves you. Yeah. Mr. Bill is what that was.

I was trying to forget that one, Brian. That was kind of fun. Benning loves you. Eh, what the hell is well for them? Dusty in there. You're kind of time to do some spring cleaning. What the fuck happened to the assassin? That's a good question. Is that an alien?

Is that a fetus? It looks like it. Maybe it's an alien fetus. Ha ha! Not it, not it. What is he looking at? nuclear fallout. Is he looking at the world?

Could be. That would make sense. I am so lost. Rightfully so. Yeah, I'm kind of hoping it all comes together, but I doubt it. I wouldn't count on it. And credits. What was the melted army men scene they were talking about?

We haven't seen that yet, right? I don't know. I don't think so. I think it would have stood out, right, if it took them, what, six years to make it or three years or whatever? Yeah, I would think so. I don't remember seeing a giant pile of melted army soldiers. Yeah, I don't even. Are we going to watch them straighten up this laboratory?

Yeah, this is kind of like the break from all the action. Uh-oh, death comes for everyone. Oh, nothing touches the stairs. You see that? It's just floating. Yeah, that's cool. Wow, that looks awesome. Hairball, is that what you guys called?

I don't know, it is. Hairball with teeth. It's so weird that, like, people legit used to walk around in plague masks. Well, I mean, the doctors, I guess. But, like, it's weird that that's a part of human history, because how could you possibly make something like that and not think, well, this looks terrifying. Good question, right?

Uh. Maybe he's gonna make him into something else. Like putting it, going into a mold or something? Yeah. Looks like a bong or a crack pipe. It's alive. It's kind of like, like just a scientist or what, a weird scientist? He's got his Bunsen burner going.

That looks like a metallurgy thing. Ah, maybe he's going to make a sword. Glitter. That's an awful. A lot of tricks. trouble to go through. Oh, he's going to snort it. That's what I thought he was about to do. Murdering babies for drugs.

You got to say, this is super impressive visually. Oh, yeah. Here's some of the user reviews on IMDB for this movie. One of them says, yuck, Eric, ew, gross. Again, please. Again, please. Okay, that the big bang? Did he just do the big bang?

Oh, I think you're right, man. Asteroid and... I don't know if it's a big bang, right? Oh, there's the UFO. Yeah. It is the big bang. It's the big bang, and the universe is being created really fast. Yeah.

A trip. There's life. Mm-hmm. On the old third drop from the sun. Yeah, I know we're just speechless. This dude knows his stuff, man. But I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck is going on. The whole...

Well, every... Every scene that happens, I'm trying to, like, grab it and pull it back to reality, and it doesn't fit. Right? Doesn't fit. I feel like we're in that scene in the first Doctor Strange movie. Yeah. The organisms are multiplying and... Uh-huh.

there you go now we got fish spermatoa this fish oh babies already yeah that's quick whatever the dinosaurs

he's a creation he's a creationist I guess he jumped straight from fish to humans all cars hauling all cars oh it's achy

they're here to blow it up already okay so that was what created the waste land that they've been roaming through, I suppose. Okay, sure. And these are more little... Building blocks of life, right? I guess so.

Little cell phones of life. The stone tablets or whatever they were that were in 2001 of Space Odyssey. Oh, yeah. Now, that's an alien for sure. Back to here. I can't remember whose place this was, I remember seeing all clocks.

Okay, well. Back in the clock frame again, huh? The weird little work guy, I think. Ah, okay. The hermit or whatever. The skulls, yeah. Are we going in reverse? Looks like it. Are we going forward in time super fast?

Really, what's the difference, right, when you think about it? I don't know. My brain can't handle this anymore. No. Time is just an illusion, right? Everything everywhere all up once. Now we go back to the assassination. Ah, it is! Indeed.

Bombing planted. Is that the end of the movie? Okay. No. It's still got about an hour to go. It's like an acid trip. Dude, time dilates. It's only an hour and 24-minute movie.

I know we've seen more than 24 minutes worth of shit. I think I'm going to be a little irritated if this is the end of it. I don't think it's the end. Okay. I was about to say we'll get the conclusion in another 30 years. Oh, that was it. Wow. Okay.

Well, thanks, Lars. It was badass, though, right? You guys have to admit. But I don't... Visually, yes. Story-wise, I have no fucking clue on what happened. Yeah, me neither. I mean, the best I could do is just pull some sort of symbolism out of it. Yeah, a lot of religious symbolism.

Even adding all the symbolism together, it doesn't make any sense. And how did the three of us, I'm assuming the three of us all missed the mountain of dead soldiers? I never saw it, yeah. Well, there was a lot of goop in there. I imagine it was. Oh, maybe it was when that thing was picking up all the soldiers and dropping them in the deal. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Those little mud people. What happened to the...

Was that them at the end? The assassin, both of them? I don't know. That's what I was wondering. And maybe that's why he's in hell doing his thing. But I assume that's what it was. I don't know, man. I'm just kind of grasping at straws here.

I'm assuming that's what the briefcases were, were the explosives. Yeah. This is very cheerful music for this type of movie. And so maybe he just replays that part of his life. I don't know. Replays that, well, because they look like women. So she replays that part of her life over and over and keeps getting eaten by a weird cyborg spider thing.

I don't, I Yeah, I'm totally reaching. So the, so the bottom line is we don't really know what the fuck was going on. Oh, John J.D. Daniel was the newt wrangler for this movie.

Got to have one of those. Oh, man. Look at all the animators that worked on it. It's insane, huh? Well, that makes sense. Yeah. It does. All the students, right? Over 30 years' worth of visual effects students.

I wonder how many of these people are working now. Probably a lot of them. Yeah, I mean, it's a good thing to put on your resume, I suppose. Yeah. All right. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can reach us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com.

Or just find us at Thehorrorreturns.com. follow our social media links from there. Next week, Steve Joyne. It's got to be a misprint. Werewolves again, Brian? Werewolves again. Oh, there's an after credits. Oh, no, there's not.

It was just an eyeball. Just an eyeball. Okay. Well, sometimes an eye is just an eye, right? Oh, man. We're weird movie. All right. Next week, we're going to check out Howling 5, the Rebirth,

and Howling 6, the freaks. So Brian, until the horror returns again. Good night.