The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #463: Howling V: The Rebirth (1989) & Howling VI: The Freaks (1991)

Episode Date: April 12, 2025

Steve is back for another Howling show. Cool of the week includes Black Mirror: Common People, The Beast Must Die, The Bondsman, and The Residents. Trailers are Bring Her Back, Predator: Killer of Killers, and M3GAN 2.0. The podcast spotlight shines on The Killer Point of View. And we get feedback from Pat Caruso, Ash Caviness, Tim Deline, Eddie Vastag, Nick Pristash, David Barta, Mike J Marin, Jerry Amyx, Johnny Phoenix, Ted Cancel, Andy Kennedy, Anthony Allen Jr., Tina Larson, and David Ramos. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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and this is Lance, and joined by weekly co-host Steve, Brian and Phillip. What's going on, guys? What's up? What's going on, fellas? I wasn't here last week, but I was here for the March Maddennes. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.

Well, you had to be here for this week, dude. True. You're going to suffer through this shit with us. It's my big, dumb ideas, getting me in trouble again. It's all good, good, clean, hairy fun, you know. Well, maybe for that, maybe for the sixth one, that fifth one, not much hair going on. We'll get there. We'll get there.

Yeah. Okay, well, cool of the week. Who's going to, who wants to jump in? I got a bunch, so I'll go. I know you do, man. I got a couple of them. Macon and you start Black Mirror, Brian? No, I got to...

Me and my daughter got into a couple of shows, so I got to finish those first. Was there a new Black Mirror out? Yes, there is. Oh, man. Yes, yesterday. Yeah. I have not watched it.

There's a lot that just dropped. Like, frigging G20 just dropped. I still need to see that. Nice. All right, so we'll talk Black Mirror. I'll go first. I'll get it out of the way. Because you haven't seen it, right, Philip?

No. All right. So I saw the first episode, which is called Common People, and it's got Chris O'Dowd in it, the sometimes funny Irish actor. And it's, I'm going to try to say a little bit without spoiling too much. It's kind of funny. Like, it's almost like these things are becoming more of a reflection of society than ever. Because this guy, how do I say it without giving too much away? His wife has some health issues, so he signs up for an experimental.

high-tech thing to solve his problem. But there's problems like she has to sleep 12 hours out of the day because that's when the servers are down. Then you find out that if they want to do certain things, they have to buy the upgrade, like the premium package and stuff like that. So kind of making fun of the cell phone business. Netflix kind of poking fun of itself a little bit there. They've fortnighted reality is what they did.

Yeah, dude, if you get the common version, Your marriage is made up of micro-transactions. Yeah. And you start, like, every minute you start spouting ads that are, like, focused toward whoever's close to you. Oh, man. It's pretty funny. I don't want to give too much away, but it's funny. It's worth to watch. Black Mirror, Season 7. Looking forward to it. All right. I got a couple this week. I finally checked out on Nora. And not bad.

I missed a little bit of the first half of it, but, like, this Russian mob guy comes in, and they're, like, looking for her idiot husband, a brand-new husband. Oh, yeah. And it turns into kind of an adventure story, and that part's a lot of fun. There is a lot of, like, really raunchy stripper-esque scenes. But that's about as far as that really goes. but I liked it I wasn't bad

I don't know I don't know if I picked it for best picture but yeah it's a stretch right I say that every year um

and then I also I guess my real cool of the week is a movie that came on after I watched the Howling 5 and it was it just sort of rolled into the next movie

you know how Tooby does oh yeah and uh and this this movie was called uh the beast must die it was a it was a 70s

werewolf money a werewolf movie but it was like a who done it but you have to guess who the werewolf is and it is very obvious about it it states it right up in front in the credits like that is the game here there's even a werewolf pause for like 30 seconds in the movie

where it asks you to guess who the werewolf is and uh oh man I say were a wolf. It's actually more of like a big dog. Yeah, it's 70s. Okay. So like when you, because they show the werewolf, but it's like, just a wolf.

You know, like, I don't know about werewolf. But aside from the terrible special effects and the really awesome music, I kind of loved it, man. This movie sucked me in completely. It's definitely worth the watch. It was great. He's got like kidnaps people on an island or some shit. Oh, fuck, man.

The beast must die, huh? Yeah. But kind of the same concept as the Howling Five. Yeah, I was going to say, he sounded really similar. Yeah, but like. Are werewolves with him, right? But better, right? Better.

Yeah. Oh, Peter Cushing is in it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Peter Cushing's there's a few people in there you've seen. Calvin Lockhart. Charles Gray.

Okay. It's kind of an all-star cast. I don't know who any of these. Michael Gambon. I know who that is. They're all like old school actors. When they come on the screen, you'll go, oh, wait, I knew that guy.

Yes. And that's what I got. That's my cool of the week. Okay, so Brian said he's going to go last. So I'll jump in and say that, Well, this week was my 14th wedding anniversary, so that was a... Congratulations. That's my cool of the week, for sure.

It's a testament. It's hard to keep... It's hard to keep anything going for a fucking year, you know? Oh, yeah. That's not how long we've been together. That's just how long we've been married, you know? But as far as what we watched, we actually, for our anniversary, we started watching the third season of Yellow Jackets, because it's all out now.

We can finally binge it all, you know? That shows fan. It's really good. I just I can't really give it a complete rating because I'm not done with it yet, not the season yet. So and there's weird because there's characters in like present day that are dead, but they're alive in the past. So you're like, it's just kind of weird going back and forth. But that's really good. But my cool of the week's definitely going to go to a show that we watched the trailer for on this show. And I'm pretty sure Brian's going to talk about it. So I wanted to wait for my end of mind to bring it up at the bondsman with Kevin Began. 100% my cool of the week. I've been with all of it. And we've done with all of it. And, one day, very easy to do, very short. Every episode's like 25 minutes and there's only eight of them. It's a four-hour show. Which thing is that on? Amazon.

Kevin Bacon. Amazon? Okay. Yeah. Evan Bacon. My only critique of it is that there are only 30-minute episodes. You kind of want more. Mm-hmm.

And it's like the episode's going and you're enjoying it and then it's over. Yeah, I guess that's the only negative thing for me. is that it was over in one day because it was it felt very much like it's demon of the week shit you know what i mean every week every episode there's a new demon to fight and a new case to crack and then kind of there's the overarching story that goes but when it starts he gets that fax and then he's got to look at the details and his mom's fucking on the phone okay hub this one likes the water you know and it's it's it's that sounds fantastic i love it's it's really really good there's a lot of It reminds me a lot of Ash versus Evil Dead, just the style of it.

Funny, but also, like, there's some heart to it and very, very gory. Hard R on the gore. I mean, Chapman-Bacon literally kills the guy with a chainsaw to the face, and you hang on there for quite a bit. And then they go back to it afterwards and show you the aftermath. So it's not afraid to show you anything crazy. And it's very blasphemous. They do ungodly shit in churches. Oh wow

So yeah Bondsman has to be my cool of the week Highly highly recommend the Bum Alright is that all Yeah it's it for me Okay I'm gonna start with my movies first I saw a Minecraft movie Oh I saw that too

I forgot to mention it I'm sure you did You had to see it Philly Yeah The most stupidest dumb shit I've ever seen But I have to say I didn't hate it I didn't understand

anything that was going on. Well, I wouldn't go that far. But I will have to say my daughter did not like it. And she's the Minecraft fan. She didn't understand why some of the things were going on. She didn't like the casting of a Jack Black as Steve. Steve, sorry. Oh, man, we had like a whole giant group of teenagers in there

that was like clapping and like more than a Marvel movie clapping and cheering for this yeah yeah it's a it's a thing now that's like a cultural phenomenon man yeah like yelling specific things out they're waiting for scenes and they all like throw their popcorn in there's the chicken jockey scene that's when people start getting up and riding on each other's shoulders one one i saw a click today is that what the kid's me older out of the baseball game i was like ah dude i don't know what that is saw a clip today, they were like, somebody released a live chicken in a theater on Facebook.

Let it go in the chicken joc. Like, cops are getting called. There's like people putting, theaters putting out warnings, like, A, don't fuck around on the chicken jocs. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, what else? What else does I see?

I saw a working man starring Jason State. That's fine. I wanted to see that one. Oh, so bad. If you've seen the beekeeper, you've seen this movie. Oh, okay. Or the mechanic or... Yeah.

Any of the above. Any other, insert job title here. Let I'll tell you. This movie was so boring. I can't for the life of me tell you what the end was. Oh, no. I forgot the end. You got a new job.

I sure remembered some of those over-the-top villains. It's like the most fucking over-the-top, unbelievable. but just like Yeah So that's kind of what the beekeeper was I was pretty disappointed with that one But the beekeeper had the entertaining characters This had the most bland

True Oh no It's like they redid Like Steve said They redid the beekeeper Except they changed the occupation And they took the fun Well that's the thing

That's the MO The Hollywood Jason Jetham model Is Make the beat Make a movie With an action movie where he is a blank, a working guy. Put in a working.

So that's what they did. They made this movie. They were like, okay, he's going to be a working man. We just got to figure out what job it's going to be, something in construction. But then they forgot.

It's just the working man. Because they forgot to put the fucking... If you remember, if you remember the, what was it, the Meg 2, Brian, where he was an ocean social justice warrior? Yeah, but that I didn't give the fuck because he's kicking a megalodon

in the damn. head. This one, I couldn't even tell you one action scene that stood out. They forgot to do the rest of the movie and it's just like him building a house. How does that, how does a 48-year-old

ripped British fucking former spy get hired on into a construction site? Like, I just don't understand that. How shit. And they get into his backstory. He's a former insert

special ops. military, ranger, Marine, whatever you want to put in the blank. And then there's always a scene where he commits a fucking crazy felony against some random person. Like, it's a bad guy,

but like, you know, to anybody else in the world, there's just some random guy that gets destroyed by him. And everyone laughs about it. And he's like, shh,

don't sell anything. It's all right, you know? It's ridiculous. It's like, he knows where to go to finish the job. But he goes and does all these,

like random grand theft auto missions side missions that's a good point they always he always has a great sense of direction like I'm working in the same building for months I still get lost you know but he's walking into a warehouse taking down tons and tons of bad guys knows exactly which whole way to turn down you know which way to stop thoughts

fucking great so those those are my non-horror movies my horror movies I checked out you guys remember watched the trailer for my bloody accent wound. Absolutely. Yeah, with Negan in the Kenya, right?

They're like, it really reminds me at Leslie Vernon where... Oh, okay. The villain is a real person. He actually kills people, and it comes out as a

slasher movie on videotape. That's pretty cool. The movie follows the daughter wanting to take his place, and she gets the opportunity, but she gets a little too close to the people that she has to take out. And I kind of actually ended up liking it.

That sounds pretty good. I think it would make a good double feature with Leslie Vernon. Very cool. Makes sense. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, it's like a family of serial killers, right? Yeah, pretty much. And then I also checked it.

That one's on Shutter, and then I came around this one on Shutter, 825 Forest Road. It's made by the director of, Hell House LLC. Okay. I like the first one. I didn't really care for this one too much, but if you liked that slow burn

supernatural haunted house stuff that he does with Hell House, I think this will kind of hit that mark for you, but didn't really work for me. It was a little too slow burning. But watch that. Checked it out.

Yeah, it's on shutter. Why not? Yeah, and TV shows. Steve already mentioned the Bondsman. And I also checked the more. I'll make it my cool the week since he did the Bondsman was the residence on Netflix, Murder Mystery Show. Okay. Great cast.

Like residents, like a residence or like a group of people, residents? A residence. It takes place. A murder happens at the White House. Ah, okay. And they shut down the White House. So the residents. Gotcha.

Yeah. And they bring in this detective, which is played. I can't remember the actress's name. She played Crazy Eyes on Orange and Blue Black. Okay. AOC? Just call her crazy eyes. Yeah, okay.

She did a great job. She was funny, quirky. She, you know, the little detective things where nobody understands what they're doing on in the residence. Yes. It has Randall Park and Jean Carlo Esposito and it has Steve. He's in everything. Yeah, yeah. There's a bunch of like, oh, I've seen that person on Superstar.

Superstar is fantastic. All their actors are. But it has a... Superstore is kind of great. It has the whole lineup of people that pop up, and it takes place over a night. Because she gets there, she kind of, it happens at, like, state dinner at the White House, and she shuts it down. Nobody can leave. Interviewing everybody.

Hugh Jackman's there for some. fucking reason. What? It's fucking Hugh Jackman? It's not really... What are you doing? It's not the actual Hugh Jackman because they just always seem to show him

from behind or you hear his voice in the background. Oh, and then like at the very end he turns around and it's a bit then. It's kind of like the setup. It sounds like the setup for Paradise a little bit. But with a comedy band, right? Murder in the White House.

Yeah. Yeah, me and my daughter, we really dig the murder mystery shows. So we binge that on, I think, two days. Did you like that one with Will Arnett that he did on Netflix where, like, everybody was acting except for, like, the random person that joined the show that week? I haven't seen that one yet. It's like Jason Bateman was on one. Beast Mode came on one.

Yeah, martial much. Dude, those are really funny because they're murder mysteries, and there's, like, a whole gun of fact. and there's like characters that go all throughout but there's whoever is the guest star for that week has no script but everybody else has a full script so they're just like sitting there trying to play off of what's going on it's really funny it's super gimmicky but it's like for a few episodes it's kind of great okay yeah that's oh and I saw the studio on Apple TV Plus Seth Rogan right yeah comedy it's fine if you

if you like it's fine because he gets a job as a studio head and it's kind of him bumbling his way through decisions

that come with being a studio head like the first episode um what's his name Walter White Brian Cranston Oh Brian Cranston

Yeah Brian Cranston hires him because he says Seth Rogan says he can get the A Kool-Lade movie made because Brian Cranston wants a Kool-Aid movie.

Jesus, right. And somewhere along the line he talks to Martin Scorsese who wants to do a Jonestown movie. Perfect. Yeah, so he gets the idea there was Kool-Aid in that. Right. Let me trick him. Let me trick Martin Scorsese into doing a Kool-Aid movie,

but not tell him that it has to be about Kool-Lade. And let me tell Brian Kron. Cranston that I got Martin Scorsese to do a Kool-Aid movie. Oh shit. And it's kind of stuff like that. That sounds good. That sounds pretty good. Yeah.

Can we get Scorsese to do a Jones Town movie just on a side note? Because that sounds awesome. Yeah, that feels like a movie that has, I mean, I know they've made like made for TV ones and they've done some very big reenactment, you know, series and the sacrament. Don't forget the sacrament. Yeah, but that was a shoestring budget and not, not. I'm talking about. like a really good biopic

like a yeah big budget go all out because there was some high drama there at the end like gun fights and fucking planes taking off and all kinds of weird shit going at the end like it was a straight up action movie with mass murder at the very end of that story

too you know it's Scorsese you know it's gonna have like Leonardo DiCaprio or Matt Damon or somebody well Leonardo DiCaprio will have to play the guy right like the main guy with the glasses what's his name the fucking the cult leader guy, he'll have to play him.

He'd be great. Jim Jones. Jim Jones. He'd have to play. He would have to play. Leonardo DiCaprio is Jim Jones. He's already got, he's got, he's getting older. He's got the body for it.

That's true. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Kool-Aid land instead of candy land, huh? But that's all I got this week. So what, so what has the title, Brian? I'm going to go with the residence.

And you saw the bondsman, too, right? Yeah. Oh, I recommend the Bondsman 100%. Where is the resident streaming? Netflix. All right, I'm going to check it out. Okay, so do we have any headlines this week, Ryan? We got some since, I don't think we did news in like a couple weeks.

We got some casting news for Lee Cronin's The Mummy movie. May Calamey. I think she was in Steve, what's the, Moon Night. Oh yeah, she was the other, the actress that was opposite. She got powers at the end of that show. Yeah, I'd never finish it.

I tapped out of Moon Night. I finished it, but I finished it like begrudgingly. I finished that show with my arms folded. I was pissed. Because here's what happened to Brian. You know what you missed at the end? Fuck it. I'm a spoiler.

You know when you missed it then? Big fight's about to end. happened fucking you know what's his name Ethan Hawks got powers in his sandals and he's fucking flying out you know and he's flying towards Moon Night fucking fucking we're going to fist the meat screen goes to black

and then New Night wakes up and the whole fight's over because he blacked out so you don't even get to see the whole fight wow that's that's rough dude they just don't show it well not too mad I tap out thanks to the

thanks to the reviews by the geeks I haven't even started the Acolyte yet, Steve. Oh, you can, you know what? You guys got to... The worst story. Best lightsaber action and anything that Disney has put out. In the Akelyte?

Some of the best lightsaber choreography, best lightsaber fights, it's good. The story is hokey and nonsense. But the action is crazy. Like, I saw a Sith guy fucking stabbed a Jedi through the stomach, and then

Force pulled another Jedi onto the blade. Oh, wow. I was like, holy shit. That's kind of cool. And then he, like, prison shanks another Jedi. Like, he makes part of his lightsaber fall off, and it has a little blade. It's like, bwant, yam, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like shakes him. I was like, holy crap. And that was, like, a main character, too, that got. I was like, oh, no. It's really good. There's some, there's some hardcore shit in that show. But it's, overall, it's the story. It just leaves you want him more.

Let's see. Summer H. Howell is in talks for the lead role of Mike Flanagan's carry, which is officially ordered from Amazon. Is it a series? Yeah. More carry? Interesting. They're not remaking the movie. They're adapting the book.

Okay. So be a mini series then? Isn't that what they try to do with the Chloe Grace Moretz one? They tried to say, we were doing the book, not a remake of the movie. Yeah, but then they remade the movie. I know. When I watched it, I was waiting for something new, and I just didn't get it. Nothing, nothing new.

It was fine, I guess. They asked at CinemaCon, they asked Jennifer, Caitlin Robinson about, I know what you did last summer. Brandy is returning since it's a legacy sequel, she said, you have to watch the movie. Okay. They're going to show her on, like, it's going to be like one of those, like, It's going to be like something on Jennifer Lovecuit's refrigerator, like a remember bot, you know, like she's got to be a theater thing. And I got to go back to Carrie again real quick. So it's going to be a series.

So that whole story is about her getting bullied by her parents and everybody at the school and everybody she knows. And then she freaks out of then and kills a bunch of people. So it's going to be like a whole season of just like watching this girl get hushed around, just knowing she's going to kill everyone. I just feels like a lot of, like, deprecation. Like, you have to watch this. But, yeah, high school massacre is going to be like an entire episode.

Unless it's directed by the people that did Moon Night, because then she'll black out before it starts. Well, yeah, it's not a really feel-good fucking movie until the end when she finally gets hers, you know? Gets her revenge. Mm-hmm. But a lot of, a lot of positive word came out about, I know what you did last summer

people got to see it at cinema con see some clips I guess press the crowd there it's it's really that movie's fucking ball to drop you know if that movie's game to lose

all it has to do is like being an effective fun slasher with some you know member berries from the 90s and if it does that right you're you're a business true nobody is asking for an Oscar worthy We just want something that doesn't suck.

I don't think anybody was asking for it to begin with. Not really. I think I read one comment of someone who saw. They said it does what the Scream and Halloween legacy sequels couldn't do or didn't do or something like that. What does that mean? Not sure what that means. It's a good movie? It's getting good reviews.

Hey, it might be good, guys. Let's be open to mind here. third one, though. It has to ignore the third one. Can't have that be in continuity. It can't. To get a wreck, wreck on that. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't either. Ghosts don't belong in the series.

Ghosts that kill people. In Colorado. The Last of Us renewed for season three before season two even comes out. I'm not excited about that. Old of them. I love the games. I thought the first season was okay.

I thought it was okay. I really enjoy it. I like the games. You get way, you know, there's just, the show just touches on stuff that the games just, it's not getting, and that girl is not Ellie to me. And I'm sorry, I love Pedro, but he's not Joel either. You know, like, there's, the casting is wild. And, like, they're, they're brushing over huge chunks of the game and then spending two episodes on something that never even happened in the fucking game. So I'm just, Like, I don't know what we're doing. You know, I don't know. We'll see. Well, and I've heard about the game, so, yeah, the second season might not go over as well as they hope it does. Yeah, I'll say it's, it'll definitely be cheaper. It'll definitely be cheaper to make season three.

That's right. Go watch the Fantastic Four to get your fix, right? Yep. Let's see, Chuck Russell's Witchboard remake releases an office. finally get a better witchboard movie. We need to review that with Nez. Well, it can't possibly be worse. I reviewed that movie.

I tried three times. Have you seen it three times? I think we reviewed it. I think, I know I was on the geeks when you guys reviewed it with Nez. And then I think I reviewed it on Nez's network. So I think I reviewed that movie three times. And my thoughts have never changed on the movie. understandable yeah

that movie is crazy isn't it there's a sequel we did the sequel too in us oh yeah oh yeah I don't remember you guys doing that I think there is three I remember you guys talking about that yeah it's rough stuff let's see here

they should do it's TV series of Whitsport oh yeah that'd be great 15 episode 58 minute episodes this already sounds like fucking straight to VOD movie. It was a fucking four minute intro

with CGI statues and shit and pentegrims, whatever you get. I'm getting it the benefit of the doubt. It's Chuck Russell. Chuck Russell did. Nightmare Nile and On Street 3, the blob. Oh. Nightmare on Street 3. You got me there, man.

That's like up there in my top five horror movies of all time. The best one. Yeah, a lot of people's top five. Let's see. Steve, played a deaf stranding the walk-in simulator

with Norman Redis? Yes yes it is getting a adaptation from A-24 and it's going to be directed by a Quiet Place Day 1's Michael Sarnovsky now you might not like that movie Brian because you didn't

like Nevali Nature so that's right so much lots of walking not nearly as much as Death Stranding that's the whole that's the whole point of the game the movie's about delivering the game the game's about the mechanic of the game is delivering stuff. I never finished it, so I didn't

get the whole story. But there's definitely an overarching story. It's a dystopian future. Very cool setting. And Norman Redis, they didn't make that game that long ago, and that guy doesn't age quickly. So he could probably just play the guy really, really easily.

Just jump right in there. And 824 is doing it. They're going to make it creepy. It's got some creepy visuals. But I think this might be a fun for A-24 because I think we talked about a while ago. They said they wanted to do bigger, bigger movies. Yes.

Well, I think, and they wanted to branch out a little bit. They're doing that weird Ochi movie with the little creature. That looks good, though. I think that creature looks awesome. Yeah, but I think that's kind of watching the trailer. I felt like that's the only thing you're going to come out watching the movies and the creature looked awesome. That's about it.

That's kind of all I want. I don't really need much more anymore. You know, my bar is low. the drag that we've been getting is like is it that function okay we're good and lastly

Stephen King's the long walk gets a release date of September 12 in theaters yeah you're excited about that yeah yeah

yeah it's one of my favorite novels that that's one of the few novels that I was like I was in tears at the end of it so depressing Any cast videos on there?

A Dane DeHan cast in the movie? I think they've already I think this was another thing they showed at cinema con that I think people got excited for. Who else would be on that movie for Rances, Mount Rushmore? Dane to Hans in there. You've got to have Wyatt Russell

from Knights of Fame face. He's got to be up in there. I know it does star Mark Hamill. He's going to be the general guy. He's going to be the general. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Perfect casting. Perfect casting.

I don't know who else is starring in it, and I don't feel like looking it up. Probably all the kids are stranger things. All the kids are strangers things, I'm sure. But they're all going to be 30. There's a lot of cinema con news, a lot of trailers shown that didn't get released to the public, so we'll just wait. People got to see the Black Phone 2 and other trailers. Yeah, that was a lot I liked the Superman stuff I'm still excited about the new

Yeah, I'm excited too I'm not gonna hate on it Until there's something to hate on I haven't seen the movie So I'm fighting an uphill battle With my show Yeah I'm the only one

I'm like I'll stand here and say that I'm excited I've seen Sean's kind of left you alone On that one Yeah He's trying to get hired by Disney You know what I mean It's picking his fights

Oh, I got you. It's some politics going on, huh? All right, that's the news. All right. Steve, you ready to go with us down to the trailer park? Yeah, let's go. Let's go. All right.

Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and the very, very weird. What's the first new trailer tonight? First one we're going to talk about is bring her back from the Philipu brothers who did talk to me. what a couple years ago now sounds about right this one is a horror mystery thriller and the synopsis is a brother and sister uncover a terrifying ritual

at their secluded home of their new foster mother what did you guys think of bring her back creepy imagery in the trailer a lot of like quick cuts stuff that you're like

that's gonna be fucked up when you get to that part of the movie you know there's there's some weird shit that I saw in there but I really like to talk to me I didn't get much out of the story other than maybe like a this lady has lost her daughter and she's trying to bring her back but uh that's about what we got and I like talk to me so I think this one's giving me good vibes good hope for this one yeah I'm kind of the exact same thing you just said like looks interesting I'll definitely watch it you guys ready to talk to me pretty highly right yeah yeah yeah yeah I'll definitely check this one out they won me over with their with their movie you know first time first time directors and they knocked

it out of park in their first one yeah I would love to get didn't NECA release like that hand like you can buy the hand yes oh yeah that's fucking cool you buy with the the DVD right yeah it's sold out like within it really quickly yeah yeah and real quick I should probably shouldn't mention horror news. They have two scripts written for the sequel to talk to me. Okay. Oh, they're going to do a sequel.

Yeah, but they said due to commitments, other commitments and projects, it'll probably be a while before that sequel comes out. All right. It's what happens, man. You'd make a banger and you get scooped up and you can't get back to the movie. Yeah, I got excited

when they got announced to do the new Street Fighter movie. Because I've seen some of their... They're a lot on their place. Their stunt work videos, but they dropped out of that because of the commitment. Damn. Oh, okay, so they won't be doing that then. Yeah.

Yeah. They're getting there. They're getting closer. Like, that new Mortal Kombat movie was the best Mortal Kombat movie, but... It was good. Yeah, it was really good, man. I don't know. Really good. I think that's about Max, right? It was on Max, one of the first of the movies after... The Seen where...

Where that one dude rode that lady into the spinning hat? That was fucking cool. But that was kind of it. Luke Kang was like nothing. I might be misremembering. I didn't like the new guy. Because he should have just straight up turned into Scorpion. That should have been his power.

And then he didn't. He just turned it. The villain from Cobra Chi? Oh, yeah. He had like gold, like, bandage armor was his power? I was like, this is dumb. I know your favorite part is when Jack's baby robot arms grew into big robot arms. At least he had robot arms, you know?

Yeah. I mean, Jack's in the second movie, I guess, did have robot arms, but we don't talk about Mortal Kombat Annihilation. That's a... He had robot gloves because he grips him off at the end. Robot gloves. He does rip him off. He's like, uh, uh, uh.

Oh, man, I believe in myself. I can do it myself. He was, like, supposed to be like a soldier, and he was like, oh, we're going to go up to his crib? What the hell? I was like, oh, man, what are we doing? Oh, what are we doing? doing and then they cast james remar as raiden

a little old huh yikes and then it was like they had like these shots where like james remar would be on the screen and then it would like cut back and you see some other guy in his clothes doing a bunch of flips and shit and then it would do like another close up on his face when he spins back to the camera and it just reminded me of like scary movie when an affair like i'm gonna get you sucker oh my god

this is so good yeah i'm i'm looking for i'm looking forward to this man movie guys. This cinematography looks gorgeous, you know? Like that swimming pool scene where the kid is in the pool for some reason. I'd talk to me. He was my favorite. He was bringing a swimming pool back, man. That's it, man. Anything with a swimming pool, it's going to be

in my top ten. This was ready for summer, bro. He hates the winter. He was deployed. I need pools. I can't wait to get out to my pool. All right. I'm excited. I'm looking forward to this one. This is my early favorite for favorite film of the year.

It's got that creepy vibe to it. And shit, they didn't do this wrong with Talk to Me, so let's see what happens. This hits Theater's May 30th. And also at CinemaCon, it was revealed. The second secret predator movie was an animated anthology coming to Hulu, and it's called Predator Killer of Killers. This is also directed by Dan Tractenberg, who during the movie. directed prey. I'm so fucking excited for this thing. Okay. The animation looks... So it's an anthology? Yeah.

You can see in the trailer it's there's a there's a shot in the trailers where he's like fighting samurai. There's like a World War II shot. There's a shot like in the 40s. It looks like like almost like, um, prohibition. Maybe the 20s like prohibition kind of cars driving around. And all the predators look different. Like the one fighting the samurai was like super agile and lanky. And then the other one like in the, there's a big ass one in, like in the, there's a big ass one in, like, one shot so like that's really cool I'm super excited for this shit alien and predator always been my shit I mean I'm not normally a huge fan of the animated stuff but uh it sounds pretty cool and the anthology thing took me over the edge so I'll definitely watch it now

I'll check it out it's on Hulu but I'm not I'm not always a huge animation guy either some of the animation looked a little choppy to me I love it I'll watch it. I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it. I mean, obviously, the director knows what he's doing with the character. So we'll give it a shot, man.

They pretty much handed this franchise over to him. He's doing the Predator Badlands, which I heard at Cinemicon. People got to see a lot of cool shit from the movie. Yeah, they released a lot of details for it. It sounds fucking awesome. Did you know anything about it, Phil? Did you hear anything about the new? So it's like L. Fanning's characters, like, Teams.

up with the predator on some dystopian planet to like fight some other creature I'm like I'm fucking ready for that shit dude I love that let's go yeah I mean I as long as they keep it

decent and don't get too silly with it I think we're cool I think the only one I haven't liked was Requiem and even that movie I have fun parts of it I don't know I think that movie's more funner than the predator Oh, the Predator is really bad.

That's a really bad film. Which one was that? The one with Boyd-Holbrook. Oh, yeah. In Olivia Munn. They get the special suit at the end, and he's like, what is he said? That's mine bubble. Yeah.

Oh, my, it's a predator. It's called the Predator Killer. I still enjoyed it, though. But it's like, the whole armor looks like normal, but it's got like a big predator helmet, so it looks like a bobblehead walking around. Yeah, that's right. It's terrible. The predator.

The predators told them that this suit is called the predator killer. So they call themselves a predator. Ah, okay. To be like, we'll give you a suit. We call this the human killer. I'll never rewatch it. There's also, but there's, that movie got torn apart in post-production, right? And Shane Black's been on record saying, like, man, they made me change some shit.

So, like, there's shots that have filmed things where there's predators in U.S. military tactical gear fucking firing on other predators and shit. Like, there was a whole ass scene where predators were chilling with the U.S. troops fucking up some other predators. Like, I want to know what that was about. I really want that. No director's cut.

Part of that movie. Instead, we got Olivia Munn running. And running. Jumping from stuff. And being followed by her pet predator dog who got a lobotum. me. Oh, Lord. A nice predator dog.

And then the child. You know, you have to have Jacob Tremblay in there. You had to have the boy. So you have some sense of innocence. Oh, the murderer, that he murdered those innocent people. When he fired on him, when he put on the predator helmet. Yeah, he did cause, like, he ended lives as a child. All right.

Predator killer of killers comes to Hulu, June 6. Yeah, wait. And our final trailer is Mathrigan 2.0. Not even really going to get into synopsis or anything. It's Terminator 2. Yes. Ah, okay. I got you.

And everything I've been saying has been right. I see that. Everything I've been reading is right. They're making a hero. It's Terminator 2. The company made a new better robot that's trying to kill the girl. So the first robot comes back as a good guy this time. Right.

It's the same. I'm like, I would just, it made me just, I actually watched Terminator 2 after the trailer. Like, I'd rather watch this. This is a better movie. It reminds me of all the Sony Spider-Verse movies where all the bad guys are anti-heroes. It's like Craven the Hunter.

Like, Oh, Craying the Hunter. Venom, Venom, sitting in a lobster tank. I don't know. I just, I don't know. going on in this movie. Why would you put Megan in a smaller... Because everybody deserves a second chance.

Bullshit. She murdered how many people in the first movie, and she's told, if you show us that you'll be good, maybe we'll upgrade your body. No. Yeah, because this thing can't lie. Also, that first movie was like borderline, weird with some of the dancing that that little doll was doing.

And now she's like, I want a bigger body. I'm like, oh, so it's not going to be even more weird now, right? Like, it's not going to, you know, I guarantee you they're going to do some more weird shit in that movie, man. So. Look, in Megan's defense, that boy in the woods had it coming. She threw in front of the car. You got a elastic ears. Yeah.

That was the best scene. It was. That one at least felt kind of scary with her, like, looking up in it in the woods. I was like, oh, man. Yeah. I don't know I'm not sold on Megan 2.0 I'm not even either

I'm kind of more interested in the spin-off movie that they showed a cinema con the soulmate yeah basically that Megan Fox movie but done in the Megan universe yeah that makes that makes more

sense this looks silly like they the shark yeah it looks like they jumped the shark a long fucking time ago and they're like jumping the brannosaurus at this point man they're just fucking skydiving flying through mountains at the end of the trailer they were in like tactical gear fighting something you're talking about with the bob hair cut

they get yeah man I'm like all right I get I you know what I'll probably put it on when that I'll get real fucking fucking high and I'll put it on and like draw while it's on and like I'll look up during the fight scenes and that's about it That's it.

There is a chance, though. This movie could be so stupid. It's entertained. There's a chance. There's a very strong fit. All right. Megan 2.0 hits theaters June 27th. And that is it for trailers.

All right. On to some listener feedback. This week, we shone the podcast Spotlight on the Killer Point of View podcast, a mix between horror movies and true crime. Hey. That's where I live. I like it. In regards to April Fool's Day, Pat Caruso says, I've been waiting to watch this one since Ammon and Pete did a commentary for it,

but I can't find it through any help. You guys have a spot where it's available. There's a spot where everything's available, but they usually toss those website things out online. This one's on Shedder, though. This one's on Shedder. AMC Plus or Shutter? And if it's streaming anywhere, then it's definitely out there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hey, your show is pretty cheap.

Yeah. Oh, with the yellow jackets, I just paid for the ad-on for Hulu, like the 1299 for Showtime and Paramount Plus. I'm like, until I'm done watching it, I'd rather just have it there. I could just push play and not have to worry about it. Yeah. That makes life easier than trying to search for every episode. Let's see. regards to the bondsman, Ash Kavanais says,

great show, thanks Kevin Bacon. Also, how you got some music in there? Don't know what that means. Okay. I guess cool soundtrack, maybe. And his thick southern accent, too, just drove home how much I want more tremors, man. I got so mad watching that we didn't get that tremor show.

That'd be cool. It ain't over till it's over, Steve. Yeah, with that accent, it really does feel like bowel from tremors left perfection and went on to become a bondsman. And his name is Hub. You know, it's like Val, Hub, like, it's these one-syllable names. It's just perfect. In regards to dangerous animals, Tim DeLine says, I'm watching anything from Sean Byrne. The loved ones and the devil's candy were outstanding. Okay.

Good stuff. In regards to 28 years later, Eddie Vastag says I'm guessing none of the survivors that were in the first two flicks are going to be in this one. Blah. I don't know. Probably not. Is he in this one?

Yeah. 28 years older, huh? He's in the movie. Okay. Brendan Gleason ain't his for sure, but I guess he wasn't really a survivor. Yeah, well, there weren't that many. survivors, right?

Let's see. In regards to the Friday of the 13th series, Nick Pristache says I checked out I checked out after part 7. Though I believe I saw 8 and 9 in the theaters, Jason transformed

from a psychotic lunatic killer Friday's up to part 4 into a Universal Soul Studios monster style character, i.e. he became like the Wolfman or Dracula in part 6. And the story the storylines became more and more far-fetched.

Up to part four, you could almost believe it was a legit story that could have happened if you ignored the fact that Jason had long hair in part two. The stories really did have a general continuity and you could suspend disbelief. Part six was fun. It was a fun what-if scenario and part seven went into such an odd direction. You couldn't help but like it as you couldn't help but like it as it was like there were two supernatural forces doing battle with each other.

But that is really where the story ended for me. Hmm. Everybody's a critic, huh? Hey, put some thought in that stuff. Did you miss out on Jason X, man? Jason's in space? Speaking of critics, I see you didn't put the guy that called me the worst clickbaiter

of all time. Nah, missed that one. Look, I posted a story about Andre Overdall, the guy who did the scary stories telling the dark Autopsy of Jane Doe, he did it. He finished filming an untitled Paramount

horror movie. That's all the news. That's all the info on it. He got mad because I didn't give a release date, a title. Our details. I didn't explain who Andre Overdall was. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Why did you click on the story? Exactly. Wikipedia, fool. Go to Wikipedia. Everybody knows that Comicbook.com is the most Clickbaitie, sons of bitches ever. I had to unfollow those motherfuckings now.

Everything's just, click here, click here, click here, like that. Oh, yeah. If you look on IMDB for this movie, it says Untitled Horror Movie, no synopsis, no release. Well, there you get. Well, we'll learn together. That's all the news we got, man.

If the stories that we post from are Click Beatty, that's not our fault. Or maybe I'm... Excuse you. Sorry. You know, have other news outlets. I don't know. You know, I tell people,

when so many gets mad at the geeks, I'm always like, you know you can get your news from someone else, like other than us. Yeah. It's just like a feature. Just give us something to talk about.

I don't post about every story. I just thought this was fun. I mean, I could have made up a synopsis in the title. I mean, if that works for you. This guy's getting a lot of airtime. I would have been reporting fake news then.

we don't want that don't do that all right in regards to grind house David Barta says death proof is one of my

favorite movies it is a pretty great one yep cat what are you doing all right and in regards to creep show

box creature Mike J. Morin says that was before he was captured all happy and stuff showing about out in the woods in the picture

Like not in the, not in the crate. Eddie Vastag says, ha ha, what up? What do you think? What do you think this is? The Friday night fights? Just call me Billy. Everyone does.

In regards to the Hell House LLC lineage. Jerry Amix says coolness level is very high here. Okay. I think that's going to be the final one in that series. Yeah, probably about that time. In regards to Fantasm, Johnny Phoenix says, What a movie. Ted Cancel says great film series.

Yeah. It's a weird one. Well, the last one wasn't too good, but first couple were great, right? Yeah. I like, you know, on mute, Steve. I knew that that was coming. That comes at least once at times. At least what?

I got to say it. I don't even remember I was going to say now. Doesn't matter. It's all good. I was saying, oh, Fantasm. You said the first couple are great, and it starts getting weird. I'm like, that's like almost every series. Yeah, every series.

It's so rare that they, you know. And they'll have one random one we're like, holy shit, that was good. Oh, man, that's back to crap again. God damn it. X-Men did that. I'm thinking of which in regards to Howling Five. Oh. Andy Kennedy says cheesy, but definitely one of the better ones in my opinion.

Okay. We'll see if we agree. From what I understand, we haven't gotten to the worst ones yet. Oh, what? What? I hope we saw Steve's face in that one. I keep, because there's clips of one I've seen that look absolutely horrible, and I can't. keep thinking every time we

get to the next movie I was like this might be it but I haven't seen any of these clips in the movie so I think in the next I thought this was it they did a made for TV remake or something right? I think there was like a Western one what

well might be good oh boy who knows oh man all right continuity with the series there's no continuity No. Not exactly based on the novel.

In regards to five nights at Freddy's 2, Eddie Vastag says, how would they have a second when they all got caught at the end? That is a good question. They escape. They escape. Come on, dude. Because the movie actually did pretty well. And believe it or not, for a PG-13 horror movie was, I thought it was pretty good.

Yeah, that was pretty good. Go see the teaser for the new one? Yeah. Uh-uh. It looked pretty good. I'm all here for it. Like, it's entry-level horror, and I'm okay with that because my kids can watch it and it's fine. Yeah, unlike Minecraft, my daughter got excited.

Unlike Minecraft. My son's the same way. He wants to see Five Nights at Freddy's 2, but not, he has no interest in Minecraft movie. Yeah, we watched the teaser together, and there was stuff popping up in the teaser. She was like, she was recognizing stuff. Mm-hmm. Different characters. Yeah, yeah.

All right. Too old for Minecraft, it sounds like. In regards to Hellboy, Pat Caruso says Golden Army is better. Yeah, I said it. Okay. And then what? Golden Army's better. I think the original, the first Hellboy.

Golden Army had a bigger budget and it was more, like it had more stuff to do. Yeah, it was more fun. But that first movie was fucking twisted. The first one was dark. And you had the good thing about that first one

is you had Myers. You had that guy that was kind of new to everything. The guy and the second one they said got shipped up to my state. Yeah, because they were like, who cares? Oh, that's right.

We don't need to explain the story anymore so we don't need an audience fucking surrogate. You got shipped to Alaska so you'll never see him again. That's right. Middle of nowhere, bro. That first movie was like a Like, I saw that in the theater, and I didn't even know what to expect, and it was just so good.

And that second one, Golden Army, is really, really good, too. I liked it a lot, too, yeah. But the David Harbor one was garbage, and so was that Cricket Man one. So was that. I still haven't seen it. Oh, you don't need to. That one makes the David Harbor one not garbage anymore. True.

In comparison, the David Harbor one's not garbage. It's just, you know what it is? They redid the first hellwood. They did the whole intro again, the whole freaking, oh, this is when the Hellboy came into the world. And I'm like, we already saw it. It was way better than the hell wrong,

Colonelman. Kind of like the Spider-Man. It felt like one of those like cheap reenactments. And I was like, oh, man, like previously on. Yeah, I know, but. All right. In regards to Mithrigan 2.0,

Anthony Allen, Jr. Long one. He says, I did get some laughs out of this trailer. Don't get me wrong. It does look like a lot of fun. But yeah, I don't know how I feel about this, as I'm not a fan of the whole anti-hero angle they're taking with the Megan character.

I also love the first movie, a fun horror, that not in any way, shape, or form meant to be scary, nor taking seriously, but just fun. I know many people are saying they're ripping off Terminator 2, which, yeah, I can totally see that, too, 100%. personally i wanted this to be a mix of child's play to and cult of chucky uh where she gets revenge on katy and jemma and uh makes more of her multiple megans but no instead we get this terminator two knock off with a heroic megan okay then i guess great well said yeah that was more feedback from that listener who was that

uh anthony allen junior anthony alan june I don't think we've had feedback from him before. Okay. And let's see. In regards to the rule of Jenny Penn, Tina Larson says the strangest movie, but I couldn't stop myself from watching L.O.L. All right. Never. I haven't seen that one.

No, I haven't either. It's not shutter. Okay. Like I said, like I said last week, neither you're going to love it or you're going to hate it. In regards to the Terrifier series, David Ramos says, trash. Trying to be all gore, but it's stupid as hell. Only one clown. I love that, I love that's Captain Spalding.

This show can't compare just straight, stupid. Also, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Yep. And that's it for listening and feedback. Our intro and logos come from Steve. Hey, buddy. All right. Our original skull artwork comes from Natsulani.

And if you'd like to help us out, please consider becoming a Patreon. Patreon. We'll let you pick the movies for a future show at any amount. And for $5 more a month, also pick a commentary for a future bonus show. All right. On to future attractions. This week, we've got more howling. Parts 5 and 6.

God damn. I don't know how many of these there are. We didn't make them, Lance. Gosh. We'll start with the Howling 5, the Rebirth. Howling 5. The After. From 1989.

Where was with them? A group of strangers visits an ancient Hungarian castle and bring along a werewolf. Is that really what happens there? I don't think that's... Sure. All right. Director is Neil Sunstrom,

also known for Dead Easy and Slash. Never heard of either of them. Writers are Clive Turner, Freddie Rowe, and Gary Brandner. The bus... Writing by committee. Always a great idea. The bus taking the visitors to the castle is a Koss Borher, Cetra S-28, who nobody gives a fuck.

And Malib. Who wrote this trivia? Former Hungarian airline livery. What? This bus or the other one or two of two is preserved at the aeroplane. Park Museum. Who cares? Okay.

Well, you can go see the bus from the Hall of Five. The Air Park Budapest Museum. Before we even start, that trivia tells you everything about the movie. That's the trivia. It's about the bus.

In case you wanted to see it. Steve, you're going to start us out on the Howling Five? Yeah, that's what sucks. This movie is... I hated this movie. I hated this movie.

I was getting mad that I was still awake while I was on. I was just like, man, I don't, I did not. I was bored to tears. There's no werewolves. You see, like, some fur, like, throw in front of a hole in the wall sometimes. And there's some weird growls. You see the cover image of a wolf face. You see that once.

And then, uh, that's about it. Uh, no kills really on screen. I don't even remember seeing that cover wolf on there. I was like, wait a minute. Blinking, you fucking miss it. Yeah. You blinked. That werewolf wasn't even in this movie.

You probably sneezed or something and fucking missed the whole shock. But it's trash. And then the end, it's like, who's the werewolf? That person is because there's a howling set. They didn't even make her eyes glow. How cheap is it to color with a fucking highlighter on the film reel? Like, they didn't even make her eyes glow. Like, come on, man.

Fuck this movie. This movie is boring. It was. No, it was. Somebody made a whodunit. And they were having a hard time. finding the money to get it made and they're like you know what we can just throw a howling title on it make it part of this franchise throw a little howl sound at the end and we're called it good

they got somebody to give them a couple hundred thousand dollars and then they were off to the races yep i think he's nailed it zero as far as we're geeks rating zero moving on that's a little rough well we don't have a 10 tier system like you do ours is only five so zero is not quite a zero for you i was just saying for the geeks rating no no no i get it I get it. I get it. Understood. Yeah, actually, Philip did give Black Christmas a negative 10. The remake?

The remake? Oh, that was really fun. We gave that a zero. Lance, what did you think about this one? I'm totally in agreement with Steve. This was just boring as hell, man. And I kept thinking, yeah, like, I didn't know about this movie. You were talking about Philip killed the, or the Beast Must Die? That sounds like the best version, and that was, they did it first.

Oh, it was way better. All I could think about was that werewolves within, and then what's the game? Is that werewolves within the people play where you have a piece of paper, and one of them's the werewolf and the others are villagers. I think it's just called it's a werewolf, actually. Okay, well, that's fucking, I guess, this inspired that, or did that come first? I don't know. Well, I'm sure the beast must die inspired all of them, right?

But, I would, so I, when I looked it up on IMDB, there's actually, like a 50s version of a movie called The Beast Must Die. I don't know if it's the same thing and it's a remake or what. Oh, wow, okay. But the one I was watching was from like 74, I think. Yeah, great, great, great year for film, man.

I mean, some good shit coming out, Hammer and all that. Yeah, the characters were fucking silly. What was that? The guy that was the count or something like that that was taken through the castle and it made no sense right i didn't really get his character they all had that mark earth mark or the mark of the beast or they didn't explain anything like and then like he wasn't even a bad guy i'm like why did you even bring all these people like why did you do this like

you know how this could all been avoided if you didn't do any of this none of this would have it's like you didn't have to bring any of these people well he said he brought everyone there so he could isolate and kill the werewolf right and that's like the one that was the one that was The war wolf was the final girl. So your plan is to just bring. Your plan is to bring everybody here and let the werewolf kill everyone and then you. Like, come on, man. Not smart.

Not smart. Well, and then the only reason that you know she's the werewolf in the first place is because she winks at the end. And that's it. Yeah. No teeth, no fangs, no eyes, no nothing, right? No hair. You didn't even give her like the, you know, the fucking little dollar teeth you get that you put it in. The little plastic ones, a little vampire feed.

You could have thrown those in her fucking face. Oh, man. Yeah, this is a hard pass for me, guys. And there just wasn't any kookiness. Like, all the movies have, like, some weird shit going on. Like, what the fuck was Anna? The next episode does, yeah. Oh, yeah, they go back to form.

But here, it's just boring. There's just nothing happening. It's just following this guy with a terrible ponytail walking around stairs for 20 minutes. I'm like, fucking, what are we doing? Cut your hair. I thought the same thing. I was like, man, that doing really squeeze. It's like really thin, gross hair.

Just cut it. I got mad at this movie. Brian, what did you think? I feel 100% robbed of time in my life. I contemplated why I do a podcast. I couldn't figure out if this movie was the longest

movie in the Howling series or if it was that boring that it made it longer. Probably that. Everything was filmed in the dark. I couldn't tell who's who, what was what. That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point. Every time I think the werewolf was on TV,

they cut to a zoom into dark. darkness. Right. And I'm assuming that's when somebody died. And then you see their dead body. They had that musical note, dot, dot, dot, dot, or whatever it was, that thing that play. Yeah.

Terrible. That was all off the house again. And I feel extra rob because this movie, I'm looking at Wikipedia, it starts in 1489 Budapest. I thought we were getting a completely different setting medieval times. I was kind of getting into it. and then five minutes later we cut to 1989

and I'm just kind of when you have the guy from the Budapest yelling the baby in English Oh Zim baby And I couldn't tell This movie was trying to be funny or not

Because We've already talked about the reveal Of the one girl being the werewolf At the end Yeah The one that was the dumb actress Or the one that said she plays The dumb girl in the movie

Swedish actress But she was a complete idiot through the fucking whole movie Yeah Oh, let's not forget when they were like Who could the Werewolf be? They're all talking about it at one point And they were like, how about Marianne?

They were like, no way, she's been asleep since all this started. Moving on. I was like, well, she's definitely the fucking Werwolf The one of you talking about. Right. So stupid. Still, that's why I like this

The Beast Must Die movie because they sort of do that But it's like, okay, well, they're giving you an opportunity to guess as to who it is. So they're going to at least be slightly obvious on, you know, who the werewolf is. I mean, they're not going to give you the most obvious person, but maybe the second most obvious. You know what I mean? I'm looking at the poster. I wish we'd seen this.

Where the fuck is the crib in this movie? In the beginning. Remember during the opening credits, they had that crib rock. Oh, that was it? That was the rebirth. That was the rebirth, yeah. I guess this movie's fucking stupid. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I think exactly what Steve said. This was just some stupid who-done-it movie, and they slapped a werewolf thing on it. Because that's the only thing that makes any sense. Because if you take out the 30 seconds worth of actual werewolf in this movie, otherwise it's just people getting killed off screen yeah not by the werewolf

somebody shoots another person another person gets stabbed by another person another person another person gets beheaded by another person what the fuck is the werewolf doing at all in this movie it's rowling like I said they're throwing fur in front of the camera like this like yeah

pretty much and then somebody's like ah then you see somebody that looking through a hole and the wall, go, oh, my God. I'm like, what the fuck did you see? Because I didn't see it. I don't know what's going. And why do you have a glory hole?

For real. Full place is full of fucking, you know, it's just the peep in Tom's Paradise this castle. Yeah, I found, a lot of the times I was looking at the scenery going, is this a set or is this a real castle? Right. But that was about the extent of my interest in this movie.

it was pretty bad. Definitely go watch the Beast must die because it's way better than this. And it's not even very good. It's still super silly and hockey, but like, but it's more fun. Okay. All right. Score, Steve. You said a zero.

Yeah. I'm going to keep it. I'm going to keep it my geek trading. You know why? Because it's a were-of movie without a were-of. And here's why. Normally I'll give it at least a warm. on something, if there's like music that's good, not here.

If there's some actors that are trying, nobody gives a fuck here. Like, nobody, nobody cared. This was like a weird cash grab, and I'm not here for it. There's definitely some actors trying in the next one. We'll get to that. So, zero, zero on ten. I don't like this. I'll never watch it again.

Lance, what do you think? Steve makes a compelling argument. I'm really thinking this three. because I was thinking two at first. I'm just trying to find a positive. I'll go, I'll go with one. I'll give it a point. I'll give it a point.

But tell me, Lance, tell me what is the one for? Is it because somebody managed to get something onto a film and release it? I mean, that's a, oh, you know what? It's better than Megan is missing or whatever. What was, no, what was that one? Not Megan is missing. Oh, too, Jennifer. Oh, God.

I'll give but a 0.5. Just because dude, Jennifer has to hold the title for zero for me. Brian. 0.25. 0.25. Damn.

Your price is riding me like a motherfucker-in-law. One penny. Here comes Brian with a point. Point-10. No. This is, this movie portrays the series. The series has been weird and wow.

khaki and kooky and just crazy all around this just betrayed the entire franchise and it is a zero wow yes this is going to be the opposite of into the spider verse here fucking swinging

for offenses man I don't know what they're given now you're usually the nice guy phil if you can find something positive to say because to me I'm like I can't even say it's positive No, Phil, you've been on your shit lately.

You've been more. Yeah, that's true. Go with your heart. A little more of a stickler. Well, I mean, I can't give it a like legitimate zero. You can't? Steve argue with him. Come on.

Well, but I can't find a positive. Not one. Steve's argument about finding a positive in the movie is difficult. Because even the boobs that were in it, We're only in it. Again, as long as that werewolf was. If you looked away for a second,

you missed them. I were around to see if I missed something, and I didn't. All right. I'll give it a one, because I don't think it's deserving of a zero. I don't know why, but it gets at least a one.

All right. But it is by far the worst one that we've watched in this series. So you like this? So you like this more than the Black Christmas remake? Yeah, I'd watch this before I watched the Black Christmas. Oh, yeah.

Me too. I might not. I might just try to fall asleep right before to end. Yeah. The Black Christmas remake. This one put me to sleep. The Black Christmas remake made me actively angry. Make you vomit almost?

Like, what any fuck is this? I'm happy to have helped bring about one of the lowest rated movies on the show. Yeah. There is. I don't know how many zeros Brian's given out. Did somebody in the comments say that that was the best one? Oh, yeah, I think so. Yeah.

All right. Well, the rest of them are crazy, but I'd rather crazy than boring. Any day of the week. Speaking of which, on to the Howling Six, the Freaks from 1991. A villainous carnival owner traps a young werewolf to include in his growing menagerie of inhuman exhibits. Director is Hope Porello, also known for Critters, Critters Carnivores? Critters, Carnivores, and Creatures? Is that the name of one movie? I think so, yeah.

Okay, Critters, Carnivores, and Creatures. If not, then that's, he's got like a type, you know? Yeah. Like that seething. Writers are Kevin Rock, also known for Warlock, the Armageddon, and 1994 is the Fantastic Four. Ouch. Have you seen that one? The Roger Corman one?

Was it amazing? Was it a man who could fly? No, I don't know. We watched it for the film. Warlock the Armageddon or the Fantastic Four? Yeah. I always wanted to see it. I never have.

It's bad. Remember the movie the boy that can fly? From Disney, the boy who can fly? Yeah, of course. He plays Johnny Storm in that. Oh, boy. Well, that makes sense. It's really bad.

I don't know if I remember. Fantastic Four from 1994. That's not the one with the... It's really old. With Captain America. When Ben Grimm is a human, he's way taller than everybody. But when he's the thing, he's way shorter than everybody. Right.

He wears like a rubber suit. A rubber... Aren't this rubber thing. Yeah, it's really bad. Let's see. Mary Lou from the previous sequel, The Rebirth, my bad, has a brief non-speaking cameo

as a circus audience member in the beginning of the film. Okay. The makers of the next sequel, New Moon Rising, included a reference to it in an attempt to connect the plots of all the films.

Well, somebody did care. Somebody cares. That's crazy. Wow. And those, I looked it up, those are the only two movies that she has ever done. Ever, of anything. The Helling 5 and 6.

No porn, nothing, huh? Nope. Not on IMDB at least. All right. Steve, what do you think of the Howling Six? Well, like Brian said with the last one, at least you had some trivia here. That gives you some. And for this one, I was pleasantly surprised.

that the swing return back to form of the Halloween series that we got here. Now, I'm kind of torn because the wear-off design is shit in this. It's shit. I don't like the fuzzy man. It just looks like a fuzzy man. It doesn't look like a wearable.

So I'm not a big fan of that. But the transformation scene. Transformation scenes were... Yeah. Listen, this movie has some pretty high highs for me. I think the story's actually really interesting. I don't know if it's executed that well, but I think the concept is really cool.

they have some fun stuff like with the British guy and the preacher like building the house together like some fucking homework channel shit Oh, that's right With the music The montage

Learning how to hammer a fucking piece of wood Like how did you do any Like you don't know how to hold a board up And put a nail in it Like he's like Oh And the British guy He had like

He reminded me of Kevin Costner From fucking Prince of Thieves because, like, he was British sometimes. Oh, definitely seeing the accent. Yeah, like, he kept, like, forgetting he was British at times. I was like, hey, wait. And then he would remember it and he would come back. I was thinking that, too.

I was like, is this kind of really British? Yeah, and then the movie throws a fucking thing at you at the end. You're like, holy shit, there's another creature. Look, this movie has a lot going for it. It's not executed that well, but I give a lot of praise to the attempts and to the care shown on screen. and I had a lot of fun with this one. So I think this was a strong return of form.

And maybe it's just like the whiplash from the fucking upswing from the last one. Like how can it be any lower? And then you come to this and you're like, holy shit, because I watched him in order, you know, back to back. One right after the other. I was just like dumbfounded with this one. How could this be? It felt like it was the best movie I'd ever seen. So in comparison to five.

So, yeah, I had a lot of fun. Lance, what do you think? this movie had this movie had fly guy I'm gonna get you sucker fly guy was in this man he gotta love that and a midget

and a midget and it had a fucking heeshie before they started saying they and it was what you mean villains deep roy villains

yeah it's freaking deep roy man oh man deep roy was great dude little Indian midget I gotta love I like he was Except in this movie he had a third arm But that wasn't why he was in a freak show

He was in a freak show because he knew how to play cards Oh yeah He would hide aces with that third arm That show was tough He lit a cigar with that third arm Handed it up to his other arm It's like damn He was fucking Dibroy had it going

He was a vicious little fucker Not a terrible special power Not a good movie By any stretch of the imagination. It's not when I'm going to go back and rewatch or anything like that. I don't know. Maybe if I, I don't know, maybe put it on the background Halloween party or something like that. But, I mean, it was interesting. And then basically you had a vampire at the end, right? I mean, it was like the nightfly. It looked like the nightflyer, right? Kind of.

No, no, no. It didn't look like a nightfly. A little bit with the bad ears and everything. It looked like the weird vampire, werewolf hybrid from the underwater. world. He reminded me a son that was from like a nightbreed, like one of those characters from nightbreed. Yeah, this was very nightbreedish. Yeah, this was super knightbreedish, right? Like with all the freaks and the weird characters and all that. But yeah, I enjoyed it, man. It was fun. And then, yeah, like you guys were talking about the little house, house, or church building montage at the beginning. And they said, we thought you wouldn't have this thing done in a year. He said, with this dude, we're going to have it done today.

British dude. It's like Jason State them all over again. Yeah. So we've got to fix this place up. There's like seven boards and like a piece of siding that had to get put up and that's it. They're done working really quickly. We're done. He's like, hey, look, here's my hot daughter. You want to stay and live here? I was what I said. I didn't even put some wood up. Oh man. Yeah, who wouldn't go for the preacher's daughter, man? That's got to be some Rick press sexuality there, right? Just well,

waiting to burst free. So yeah, this is a fun movie. I had a lot of fun watching it. Not great, but fun. Hot, innocent little blonde, can't go wrong. And I'm not a big blonde person. Brian, what do you think? Who wanted to smack it? Who wanted to smack him when he was like. I'm like, come on, bro. For the rest of us, bro. For the rest of us. Take one for the team. Come on, man. Tell him to leave like that. Brian, what do you think? I was pleasantly surprised we were back to form I liked the addition of the freak show you call him fly guy

Lance I call him Huggy Bear from Starsky and Hutch oh my god you're right there he is we got Deep Roy in there we got Bruce Payne the villain from passenger 57 oh nice

we got Montez We got transformations The sheriff was one of the The gangsters from Blood in, blood in, blood out Oh, me! Oh, no. We were just doing random.

Going down the knowledge, man. The score's going up. Oscars going up, yeah. I did admit, I had to, I didn't know the Bruce Payne turned into a vampire. Yeah. Because he didn't look like a vampire. I had to look it up to confirm.

was a vampire. Okay. Because that, that seemed to just come out of nowhere. But I like the story that, that, of the freak show and that they're putting them in the freak show. And oddly nobody was alarmed at a werewolf in the freak show. It was a little weird, but it just kind of added to the weirdness of the movie. Yeah. Yeah, true enough. Hey, small town, you got a freak show coming to town, you got a werewolf. The cops seem to be really good with the freak They're like, we're going to take this guy to the Frig Show. And they're like, all right.

It's all good. Yeah. He walks in there and this guy's like locked up in a fucking cage and he just like doesn't do anything. Like, okay. And I like, I like that the Frig Show guy, he, he, he's just so creative with his names, you know, he's like, you'll be alligator boy. He was like, yes.

Oh, I love that. Harkens the vampire. But it does end anti-climactically because they defeat the villain. He gets alligator boy. He looks at the girl, and then he walks into the desert with alligator boy credits. To do what?

Where are you going with that unconscious boy there? He's going to make a pair of boots out of him, right? No. I think... A belt? I think Steve's onto something. Because he did refuse the pastor's daughter. I know.

But he made sure to leave with alligator boy. But you know what? And that's the other thing, too. Another reason to raise the thing. Because even though the character does the bonehead move makes the fucking preacher's daughter leave the fucking clock tower, even though she made sure her dad was asleep and she told him so. Even though the filmmakers were like,

like, yeah, but like let's show them anyways. Like, let's show it anyways, like, as a dream secret. So I was like, okay, at least you give us that. That's cool. That's cool, you know. Live vicariously. Just so you know that he wants to. Yeah.

He doesn't want to leave with alligator boy. But I didn't think it was funny when he likes, like, he's like marking everything meticulously about, like, when he's going to transform. And then, like, he's sitting there one day writing and he's like, shit. and he looks up Full moon instant transformation I'm like he's fucking dummy read the calendar wrong

I was kind of thinking that too I was like I'm like, come on man I'm the shit playing What are you doing? You're really bad at this It was really abrupt but yeah

this one was definitely more entertaining they had it took it a minute to get going like the the beginning I wasn't super interested and then like you know the camp

the whole montage of the fixing the church and I was like what are we fucking doing can we get to something here but they had to set him up as the good guy because he's the he's the he's the werewolf but he's a good guy right you have to know that and so i it works for character development i'll i'll give him that uh and then and then the bad guy is the vampire right and so you have to have the battle i love the transformation scene

for the werewolf that was actually like surprisingly good um like the guy that played the werewolf, I think actually did a really great job. I mean, he had a whole lot of overacting going on, but better over than under. I like the idea of the talisman and the incantation. Yeah, they could make him

transform at will with that. That was cool. That was like a new twist. Yeah, the whole movie was a little over the top, so it sort of felt like it worked. And man, he was just like really selling it. Even with like the bendy bars of the cage that he was in,

Oh yeah, I noticed that too. Rubber bars. He like grabs one on the top and sort of swings across it, and it bends real bad. And I was like, boy, you like aren't going to cut that out or anything. Maybe you're issued that. Adds to the mythology, right? So it was, it definitely had some silly aspects to it.

I thought the costume design was, maybe not the best but the the the the special effects though I did I did kind of enjoy like like I said the transformation scene they had the growing toes and all that stuff and they did that really well it's just when he when he when he transformed he just looked like a like a like a wrestler team wolf he looked like a teen wolf yeah he looked like like from the Michael J. Fox movie but like not like he looked more like Jason Bateman. Yeah.

In the boxing one, yeah. Fair enough. Like, it was like, it was like a teen wolf that wasn't all the way transformed. And he had his, and they decided to put these stupid little, like stilt things on.

So he had like little dog feet. It didn't make any sense. It was weird. Yeah, well, you know. But, yeah. Oh, I, I, I will.

At least there was a werewolf in the movie. Yeah. It was a werewolf. At least it was a werewolf. At least they showed it. And then they kind of went all out for the vampire thing, which, you know, was not my typical view of the vampire. But if we're going to slap some costumes on some people, let's do it. And the final scene with the fight between the werewolf and the vampire, I thought maybe could have been a little bit better.

But, like, you know, maybe draw that out a little bit more because you could make that really cool. There was no budget for that, you know. Yeah. They spent it all in. Apparently. Apparently. But it wasn't terrible. Like, this one at least kept my attention, and it was actually really interesting story once they finally got into it.

It just takes half the movie to get there. You guys want some trivia? Oh, yeah. Let's have some, man. Let's have it. kind of bus was used in this one, right? Howling 6, the Freaks marks the first time at Howling movie

has been shot in the United States since the original one. Oh, wow. Georgia. They didn't go to Budapest. Yeah, this seems like a more American-ized movie. The first one filmed in America.

It's more American than Freak Shes. But also the first one, that's the main character is a British guy. Yes. That isn't really British. So for some reason, they made him British, even though he could have just been like a guy. So is he really not British? Oh, I don't know.

It just felt to me like his... I didn't look him up, but it felt like his accent was... Yeah, it was sort of... It was slipping, wasn't it? Sometimes it was there, sometimes. Because I found myself thinking that, too, I was like, wait, does this guy have an accent? But then, like, maybe I'm just, maybe it's just me being like... Oh, you don't sound British enough, bro.

Like, what the fuck? Like, then we all sound super thick, you know? He is from... He's not talking about tea in pompousity. It's not saying it. He's from... Not saying. All right.

Scores, Steve, what do you think? Ooh. We're going to give part six of this series a seven. Seven on ten. I'm going to swing up to a seven simply because I actually I don't think that it was like we talked about

the execution wasn't there but I think that that's strictly budget reasons and you know you can only do so much I see what they were aiming for and I like what I was getting so yeah it had a lot going on in this movie they had a lot going on

no doubt the vampire was I don't know if I I liked the vampire design either Phil but the fact there was a vampire I was like what the fuck this is great you know yeah it was like

I appreciate that they for it. Yeah, surprise. So, yeah, 7 on 10 for me. Lance, what do you think? Five and a half. I liked it more than I didn't like it. It's not great.

But, hey, it was fun. It was fun. Brian? I'm going to agree with Steve. This is a 7, only because I watched it directly after I watched 5. Oh, boy. I'm judging this based on that night, that night's experience. Like, hated.

Then I was having fun. I'm going to go six on this one. I had a pretty good time with it. I think it was solid, especially compared to the last one. I still think that I like the beast must die more, even though there was no real werewolf, and the special effects were terrible. Like sometimes it was, sometimes it was like daylight in one scene on one character,

but nighttime on another scene on another character. but they're in the same scene, right? And it keeps splitting back and forth between one and the other, and they're, like, talking or whatever. And it's like night, day, night, day. I was like, did nobody, like, notice this? The golden age of film. Yeah.

But, yeah, no, I give it a six. I think this one, I had a pretty decent time. this one, man. I would watch this again. I am not in any mood to watch the other movie. Yeah, that's a fair assessment. That's a fair assessment. Steve, what are you guys doing at the geeks lately, man? Oh, what did we do last week? We did a big cinema con breakdown last week, talking about all the trailers, and that's when Brian saw when I got to try to defend Superman by myself against an onslaught of hate. I don't get it. I think it's going to be good. I know, I'm excited for.

But I'm also like really excited for Fantastic Four also. Like even, and Sean's even like, I don't know. And I'm like, bro, I can't fucking look. That shit looks great. I have a feeling Fantastic Four is going to suck ass. Really? I think the retrofuturism, I think that that whole aesthetic that they're going for is the only way you can do Fantastic Four properly.

Fantastic Four can exist in our world. It's too silly. But it can. in alternate 1960s retrofuturism silly-ass world and it'll make sense there and then when they bleed over into here they're going to be like everyone's going to be like you're fucking silly and they're going to make some changes you know so I can't wait for that movie I think it's going to be

awesome so I hope it will I don't expect it to and then uh we're starting our 31 days starting recording some stuff for that we always start really early on that so that's about it oh we just did a movie called

pro mare for a Patreon review an anime movie from one of our listeners people are getting us to watch some weird stuff it wasn't my favorite anime but it was pretty good hey at least at least you guys will do all of your 31 unlike Brian and I that that was a half way through the

31 days I don't know man cried uncle or something but we saw the movie Brian was a hell of a commitment to something and I getting paid for It was my fault. October was a rough month for me, so I didn't have to record. That's why we start in like March and April. That makes sense.

We need to have like, we like to do some in October because it's the season, it's the time. But like we need to have like 20, 25 done by October because we can't be, we've done it before. We're recording five movie reviews in a week and it's like that we can't do that. shit. Yeah, that's a lot. We've learned in the last 10 years to space it out quite a bit. Yeah, well, hopefully whoever's making the Fantastic Four has learned from mistakes of Fantastic Four's past, right? Oh, they won't. Well, I mean, it's not, it's not Fox doing it. Fox, you know, Fox has been that butchered those movies. And not for nothing, like, those first two Fantastic Four movies weren't great, but they weren't the worst. That was a really,

good Doctor Doom design and Johnny Storm was awesome in those movies. And chickless, I mean he did what he could. You know, Joan Gruffield's Mr. Fantastic was terrible. He reached under a door to get toilet paper. That was one of his moves. Like, that's

not good. But, you know, Chris Edvin's Johnny Storm was hilarious. Like, he got every chick in that whole fucking movie's universe. Like, they all wanted. As happens. He crashed landed on a ski slope on fire

And turned a big pile of snow Into a hot tub And chicks were dropping their fucking snow suits To get into it with him Like that movie's typed Johnny's awesome Johnny's throwing to fuck around Dude

That's why I knew he said all that shit In Deadpool Wolverine I think the problem that they have Is Fantastic Four is just a little bit silly Well Just by the nature of it. I mean, you have a rubber man.

Rubber man and an invisible woman. Yeah. How do you find her how do you find her G-spot? It's going to be tricky. It's going to be tricky. They almost did it. That's my eyeball. Motherfucker.

That last fantastic four movie that came out. Who did that one? That was with the that Dr. Doom ruined that movie. Josh Trank. He did that really good movie with Dane to Han

before that. that. Was it where he was a superhero, the found footage one? Oh, that was a good movie, yeah. That was a good one. Then he got Fantastic Four. That was good. And guess what happened?

He's been on record, too. Like, he is not the best director or, you know, doesn't have the best, you know, stories about him either. But Fox butchered that movie after he was done with it. Yeah. Re-shot a bunch of shit. There's scenes where you can see where Kate Mara has a wig. Because it was years after the movie was done,

and they brought her back to do extra shit. It's like, that's not real hair. Well, this, I don't know why you think that's going to be any different for any of the other movies. The studio keeps sticking their fucking grubby hands and shit. Because it's Marvel, and Marvel's on an upswing right now. You know, Deadpool Wolverine was really good. Yeah, and Daredevil.

Daredevil's really good. I've heard a lot of. good things about Thunderbolts. Really? Really? Yeah, a lot of I think it's going to be good.

It's really good. Yeah, I'm excited for the state of geek culture. Maybe they're finally pulling their heads out. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. Stuff looks fun.

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Oh, that's a good thing point. That's a good point. Next week we're going back to the theater guys for a drop. That's what AJ's excited to watch with me. She likes the dude that plays the date. He was Spencer Dutton in the 1923 series. The Yellowstone, have y'all seen that? No, I haven't seen that one. I'm loving Yellowstone. That's her new band fresh. I haven't seen any of the other ones though. Yeah, they're all good man. They're all good. Um, kind of over the top. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's cool. Um, and what else do we

to watch Brian cellular 2044? Who wrote these notes? Oh, I didn't see that one in a minute. Oh, must be 2004, right? Cellular? Yeah, I don't think we're 24 yet. Isn't that the one with

fucking Johnny Storm? Yeah. Is it? All right. No, shit. Everything comes full circle. Do you, have you seen cellular before? Yeah.

I've seen it. Yeah, I think so. Awesome. Yeah, it's not bad. It doesn't hold up now because, like, current technology or like, what the fuck? But, like, at the time, that shit made a lot of... It's a flip phone or a big phone this big or something.

Jason State was not just a guy with a regular job in it. Oh, he's in it, too. I'm excited. I'm excited. Tim Basinger? Okay. Well, on that note, until the horror returns again, Philip. Good night.