The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #464: Cellular (2004) & Drop (2025)

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everybody, to The Horror Returns.
Starting point is 00:01:04 I'm Lance, and with me, as always, co-hosts, Brian and Phillip. What's going on, guys? What's up? Bone dry here in Florida, guys. No rain on the horizon. Been six inches below average rain. fall or something like that. I heard it's really dry out near San Antonio, guys. Philip,
Starting point is 00:01:27 is it dry where you are? Are y'all close enough to the ocean? Eh, a little. I mean, it rained a couple weeks ago pretty good. So, and it's been a little bit cloudy out. I'm kind of surprised just doing that in Florida, because it normally rains when it's bright and sunny out over there. Yeah, so one of my buddies that's lived here a while says, wait till about May 15th and then it rains like a little bit every day. So we'll see. Yeah, just not a lot of April showers, I suppose. I guess not. I guess not. Brian, y'all still getting snow? Last week we were on mute. No, you hear you. Okay. Yeah, last week we got like five inches of snow. I was kidding. Jesus Christ. But then it all melted like the next day and it's been raining the
Starting point is 00:02:18 last couple days. Okay. It's, it's been weirdly chilly here until the past week or two. Yeah? Yeah. We always get the sea breeze here. You probably do too, Phil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah, it's, it's, it's warming up, though. I spent the whole last week in an attic. Oh, boy. Learn to appreciate that breeze. All right, we're done with the weather returns. What's, what's you guys got for cool of the week? I'll jump in because mine is
Starting point is 00:02:53 not really horror related well sort of okay so we watch Cellular right and sure his Captain America's blonde buddy at the beginning yes yeah I saw him and I went I know that guy
Starting point is 00:03:07 what do I know from and then I started looking at some stuff and I ran across fired up you guys seen this one no I heard up. It's from, like, 2006, I think.
Starting point is 00:03:27 2010, maybe. Whatever. It's like one of those high school get chicks movies, right? And it's like this dude and his buddy are like the top football players. And instead of going to football camp, because they're trying to get girls, and they're going to go to El Paso where it's hot as shit and it sounds awful and there's no women for two weeks. and then they over here some cheerleaders talking about the cheer camp that they're going to. So they decided to go to cheer camp.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And so it's fired up. F you. How do you spell fire up? F you. I think that's how you spell it. That's hilarious. Sounds pretty good, man. It is such an underrated movie.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's one of those little under the radar, uh, horny teen, you know, comedy movies that's fucking classic, dude. I love that movie. I remember seeing it when it first came out, and it's one of my favorites. You remember seeing that guy in the Dumb and Dumber Prequel? Is that what he was in? Yes, sort of. He was young Jim Carrey. Yeah, I don't particularly remember the movie, but that works.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I think he makes a good young Jim Carrey, although that wasn't a great movie. From what I remember, I don't even really remember any of it. Is it called Dumb and Dumberer or something? Yeah. When Harry met Lloyd. But fired up is fantastic. And he's one of the leads in that one. And it's so, if you haven't seen it, go watch it.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I'm telling you, it's great. Give me an F. All right. I only got one movie and I finished a TV show. The movie I watched was Death of a Unicorn. Oh, I wanted to hear about this. Okay. Paul Rudd, Jenna Ortega, Will Poulter, Richard E. Grant, who, Lance, you thought that was Hugh Grant.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I did. Oh, it's like his brother or some shit, though. I looked it out because I thought they were related, but I guess they're not related. Oh, really? No. They look just alike. Where are the Mandela effect now? I know. This movie is a horror comedy, but it's more comedy than horror.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You get some horror stuff when the unicorns attack. Basically, Paul Rudd and Jenna Ortega are father and daughter. And he's driving to a client's house, and she has to come with him because the mother had passed away. So it's just them. And on the way to the client's house, they live out in the mountains or the woods or something. He hits a unicorn. and they take the unicorn because they don't want to leave it in the road and then notice that the blood from the unicorn
Starting point is 00:06:23 has healing factors and of course Richard E. Grant and his family are like rich assholes who want to you know they got to care for cancer how can we profit off of this and of course it's very dry humor and I can see people neither loving or hating this movie. That's understandable. And Jenna Ortega...
Starting point is 00:06:50 It looked like it was going to be one of those. Yeah, Jen Ortega, she's doing her Gen Ortega thing. Paul Rudd didn't exactly fit in this movie for me. Oh, no. Yeah. But I would say the person who does steal the show is Will Poulter. A kid with the eyebrows. Oh, he's good, man.
Starting point is 00:07:12 He showed up in an episode of Black Mirror. Yeah, he's such an asshole in this movie. He stole the trailer. Like, he was just chewing up scenery in just the trailer. Oh, it continues through the movie. He is definitely a highlight in the movie. And the CGI on the, you got to take the movie for what it is, because the CGI on the unicorns is not great at times.
Starting point is 00:07:41 But some of the deaths are pretty fucking gory. some impalements with the unicorn horn happened. Okay. So if I had to give it a score, I'd probably give it like a six and a half. Not bad. Two-thirds good, right? It's definitely not the serious, dark theme movie
Starting point is 00:08:08 you would come to know with 824. It's more silly, which is good. That's funny. They wanted to branch out and do other things. Right. This one wasn't a complete miss. It does have its moments.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Well, not exactly a glowing review, but I'll still watch it. I'm going to check it out for sure. And I watched the season finale of Daredevil Born Again. Oh, wow. Is that your cool of the week? Absolutely. Make it a double. I'm not going to spoil.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I'm not done. I'm not going to spoil any. I'm not going to spoil anything, but there's a scene where the kingpin takes somebody out, and I yelled out loud. I was like, Disney Plus, are we really doing this? Oh, all right. A lot of F bombs, a lot of blood, some gore, some guns. I'm not saying it would. I don't even remember seeing this in Daredevil.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Oh, nice. not the Netflix one yeah it has to do with somebody's head oh wow and there's a great there's a great team-up scene with the the Punisher I know it's I know it's building so definitely cool the week solid season it definitely sets up things for season two and it sets up because from what I understand John Berthall's writing the Punisher, a little standalone thing that's going to be on Disney Plus. Ah, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Because he, apparently a lot of the stuff in the Daredevil show came from him because they gave him the script and he was like, Frank Castle wouldn't do this or wouldn't say this. This is what he's done. And if he's taken over
Starting point is 00:10:07 the, the standalone, I don't know, it's kind of like a werewolf by night. That's what they're doing with... Okay, like a one-off single, like, hour-long. If they're doing that, what they did in this and that, then that one's going to be pretty fucking awesome. That's all like that.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Yeah, like in the comic books, guys, like in the 80s, when I was really big into reading a lot of the Marvel comics, they would have like a two or three-issue limited series or something like that. And I know the Punisher had several. And like Hawkeye had one, and Wolverine had like 20. any different story arcs. But that's kind of like, I guess, sort of reminds me of what
Starting point is 00:10:52 they're talking about with a one-off. Like it's part of the universe, but it's its own little thing. Like you could just watch that and not have to keep up with every single month reading the same comic storyline, you know? Yeah, and they didn't, it was a pretty
Starting point is 00:11:08 standalone story, very gritty. There was from what I remember, there was one person from another Marvel Disney Plus show but it was a minor character it was just enough to know that it's in that universe
Starting point is 00:11:24 but they didn't have to throw a whole bunch of people in there yeah they didn't make it like a like a Royal Rumble Philip yeah man I remember one that was fantastic when I was kid it was a I think it was called Hearts of Darkness and it was like the Punisher
Starting point is 00:11:40 Wolverine and that sounds familiar yeah that sounds very familiar I think I read that one and they teamed up against, I can't remember who it was, Dark Harder, Mepistow or something. It was bad. Of course, yeah. All right, well, that's my cool of the week too, Brian. But I just finished the second act, like episodes four, five, and six.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So I did the arc where, not to give too much away, but they introduced you to Frank Castle again. And then they had the episode that was the bank robbery. And I'm like, get in your fucking costume. Dear Devil, get in your fucking costume. And then he does. He can see what's going on. What's his name is fantastic, I think, in the show.
Starting point is 00:12:28 James Gandalfini's son, Tony Sopranos son. He's the kingpin's, the mayor's, like his little underling that's basically, the kiss ass. Yeah, he reminds you of a tech bro a little bit, you know. He's coming in there. It's pretty cool. Like he's smart with computers and shit. And he's like, I've got all the connections, mayor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I work for you. Follows him around like a puppy dog. Philip, are you into it yet at all? No, I haven't started it. But now the season is over, I'm going to have to. Yeah, now it's time. All right. Yeah, because if I watch it, I'm going to binge it.
Starting point is 00:13:09 If I get stuck halfway through and all this in all the fucking episodes are not out, it pisses me off. Yeah, it's done now. So. Yeah. I just binge that three-episode arc. And so I've got like, it's nine episodes, dude. So if you do like three, three and three, that's kind of like bite-sized pieces, you know. Because I would say seven, eight, and nine are kind of like an arc itself.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah. Looks cool. Makes sense. It seems like they're doing it that way. So does Daredevil have a different suit in this one? I keep seeing the preview and he's got like the white suit. He has. they show something
Starting point is 00:13:49 into many suits. Okay. I don't know. I'm just thinking his wheels are turning. Yeah, Black Mirror continues to be good. Are you done with them, Brian? I haven't even started.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I haven't either. I totally forgot about it. I didn't even know it was out until you said it last week. Yeah, I've seen all of them except the final one that's an hour and a half long, which is the Star Trek.
Starting point is 00:14:16 knockoff episode Part 2 Yeah, I heard they made it an hour I heard they made it an hour and a half because it originally was supposed to be a spin-off movie Ah, okay. Well, it basically is a movie then, right?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah. Yeah, there's just some trippy shit. I'm not going to give anything away. Y'all need to check it out because every one of them has a twist, right? So you'll be like a third of the way through the episode before you know what the fuck's going on. The second one was amazing.
Starting point is 00:14:45 where this chick starts feeling the Mandela effect and it's trippy. Oh, that sounds cool. Yeah, there's another one that has very heavy LSD use in it. It's crazy. Yeah. That Miley Cyrus season didn't get me excited about the rest of it. No, that was trash. Much better.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Much better. Yeah, it's back. It's back to form. And it seems like the episodes with the British actors, Brian, I like him better for some reason. Yeah. And I don't know if that's just because they're being written, you know, by British writers primarily. Like Charlie Booker's a lymie, right, Phil? The creator, I think so.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, it started in England. Pretty sure he's done, like, some mob type stuff or, I don't know. Just stick with Black Mirror. I think maybe he left it and came back or something, it feels like, because, like, that striking vipers episode, Captain Mayer. Yeah, that was fucking weird. Miley Cyrus.
Starting point is 00:15:50 That was the Miley Cyrus season where I was like, I don't know if this is really still black mirror or not. Getting out there. Stay in your lane. All right, Daredevil Born Again gets two votes and fired up. F you. F you. And on to.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Horror headlines brought to you back Brian. I promise you. Watch it tonight. You will thank me. All right, if I can talk AJ into it. If not, I'll have to have to check it out later. It's great. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Lance, are you familiar with an author named Christopher Golden? No, I'm not. You might have a couple books to add to your yearly read. He's had two books in the past week option for movies. The first one is going to be directed by Scott Derrickson. It's called Road of Bones. Oh, I have heard of that. Yeah, and Michael B. Jordan's production company Outlier Society is developing the other one,
Starting point is 00:17:00 and that one's titled The House of Last Resort. Oh, man. All right, I'm going to check these out. All right, so the House of Last Resort and Road of Bone. Yes. All right. I'm adding to the list, guys. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Jessica Chastain is going to star in the boogeyman director, Rob Savage's in decent incidents around the house. You guys remember Rob Savage, like I said, the boogeman dash cam host. That dash cam?
Starting point is 00:17:40 The one said in England. During the pandemic? Yeah. Oh, boy. All right. It should be interesting. And seen Jessica Chess Sainterman. Yeah, when I was doing the notes,
Starting point is 00:18:00 I was trying to remember when was the last thing I'd seen her in. It's been a while, huh? Yeah. Silent Night, Deadly Night, Remake News. got a couple casting notes here. Rowan Campbell.
Starting point is 00:18:19 You guys remember him, Lance. You probably not going to instantly like him for the last movie he was in. Halloween ends. I don't remember him. I'm not getting a visual here. He was the one that they... He was the one that they teased was going to take over for Michael Myers. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:18:39 No, I'm out. Whatever this is, I'm out. Okay. See, no, I... Oh, you're going to make us watch it anyway. No, I wanted to talk about this because... Okay. Do you not like him because of the movie or because of his acting?
Starting point is 00:18:52 Probably the movie. I'd rather have Rowan Atkinson, Mr. Bean. And then he walks away. Oh, okay. Because that's... That's what I'm seeing a lot of, and I don't blame the movie on him. Yeah, that's true. Well, I guess give him a...
Starting point is 00:19:13 everybody deserves a second chance, right? Well, I didn't think he was bad in the movie. I just thought the character made no sense. I didn't think it was acting was bad. Like, why they even wrote that person in the movie is insane. And I still stand on a statement that the storyline for Halloween end should have been the middle movie. Yeah. If you're going to introduce that character, you should have introduced them in the second one.
Starting point is 00:19:41 and then killed him off or brought him into the third you think brought him into the third and then did whatever he was going to do so at least there some sort of reason to be there yeah yeah two movies into one and it didn't really make like an afterthought yeah they had a little too much pineapple express and i've seen people say the same thing you just said lance like no i'm out if he's going to be in it i mean he's not playing the same fucking character from following ends. And it made me think of that that thing Sidney
Starting point is 00:20:16 said about being in Madam Webb. She was like, I didn't make the movie. I was just in it. Well, in her defense, she made a great movie last year. It just wasn't Madam Webb. It definitely was not.
Starting point is 00:20:33 You guys know she's trying to make a Barbarella remake? I did hear that. Absolutely. Like she's trying to a year ago. producing and starring it. I'm all in. Well, you know, I think that she's,
Starting point is 00:20:47 she's, she's big enough now where she can kind of call her own shots, and so she doesn't have to be in these shit movies anymore. Yeah, because the immaculate, like, she was originally supposed to star in it like a while ago, but I guess she was too young.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Oh, yeah. That might have been awkward. That makes sense. Although, I don't know. She was pulling her, tits out in euphoria, wouldn't she? Yeah, I think she was in her 20. You haven't seen euphoria?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Uh-uh. It'll make you feel weird. I haven't. I don't know what that means. I haven't seen the whole thing, but I've seen episodes. Is it kind of like climbing the rope the rope in gym class?
Starting point is 00:21:36 Makes you feel kind of funny. Not funny like that. Okay. Also in Silent Night, Deadly Night is Ruby Modine, Matthew Modine's daughter, which the only thing I can think of her, I know she was in that movie Satanic Panic, but you probably remember her best from Happy Death Day. She was the roommate.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Okay. All right. Yeah, I'm in for that. We're going to watch it. Who am I kidding? We'll give this kid another chance. It's directed by Mike P. Nose. He did a lot of segments for the VHS series.
Starting point is 00:22:17 What do you think, Philip? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'll check it out. Oh, good, I'm going to make you guys. Well, then I'll definitely check it out. More Godzilla Kong sequel news. Sam Neal, and I'm going to butcher her name, Alicia Devinan Carey. She was in Fear of the Walking Dead. Fear of the Walking Dead, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, they joined the cast. Okay. I'm sure Sam Neal is going to be doing his. Jurassic Park thing. Probably. I like him. I don't care. Yeah. This isn't official.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I've seen a lot of postings about it, though, so I thought I'd bring it up here. It's been reported that Ryan Gosling is going to produce a remake to kill the clowns from outer space because he's a big fan of the movie. Yeah, I'm all for it. As long as he produces it. I don't want to see him running around in a fucking clown suit. well he wouldn't be the clown probably not he'll have to at least do a cameo right
Starting point is 00:23:20 yeah I'm sure although maybe he will be in a clown suit so you don't know it's him it could be yeah I'm I'm all for it I know somebody said commented on the post on our Facebook page
Starting point is 00:23:33 they were just like why I mean like why not I mean if it's bad then yeah it's bad don't watch it it's not like the original was a fucking masterpiece of a movie.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I hope they keep that cheesiness, you know? I really do. I hope they keep that I hope they don't go overboard on the CGI and shit like that. Yeah, don't make it too serious. If they're going to do it, they have to work with the Chiotto Brothers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Oh, we've got to find our sounder. We got to find our sounder from the Frightmare a couple years ago. And this is through MGM, which everybody knows. Amazon owns MGM, so we might not even have to go to the theater to watch this. This could just end up on Prime.
Starting point is 00:24:21 All right. With Brian Gasling in a clown suit. I'm going to be. And our final news, I put this on here because I know a friend of the show, Tim Davis, is a big fan of this franchise. It's coming back for a third movie. Happy Death Day 3.
Starting point is 00:24:44 in development. Tim take this. Big fan. Huge fan. I think he has the, you know how NAS always shows that Black Christmas DVD? I think that's what Tim usually does.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Oh, he's got the steel book, limited edition. They're going to keep on kicking this happy death day horse, aren't they? Yes, they are, man. Which was weird. I meant to talk about. about it last week because Christopher Landon, the director, basically said this was not happening. And then he let the news out how it was going to be like a three-part series event on Peacock.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And then that fell through. And then a week later, it was, they're like, it's officially in development. So I don't know what happened in the past week, but it's coming. Well, got to check it out. Tim will be there opening night. Oh, for sure. With his popcorn bucket with the hole in it.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Yes. Extra butter. Some petroleum jelly. It's what the butter's for, Lance. Okay. And that's the new. I don't get it. It'll leak to where it needs to go.
Starting point is 00:26:09 All right, that's the news. It got weird. All right. Let's take a little trip now to the trailer park. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes they're very, very weird. What's the first new trailer this week, Brian? We finally got our first official trailer for 28 years later.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Okay. Of course, this is directed by Danny Boyle. also written by Danny Boyle and Alex Garland stars Aaron Taylor Johnson Jack O'Connell Ray Fines
Starting point is 00:26:51 a bunch of other people what you guys think 28 years later first of first of a trilogy which the second one's already filmed second one's already filmed oh wow
Starting point is 00:27:04 I think already has a release date okay as long as it doesn't get the way of the strangers right or the Kevin Costner Western. I'm digging the trailer on this one. Like the trailer is done really well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Hopefully the movie will be too. I have no reason to think that this is going to be anything but awesome. Yeah, it seems to emphasize more on the people that survived, that weren't really infected. Or maybe they were infected. Maybe they just mute the strain mutated. to where they are infected but didn't turn into I know people get mad because they're not zombies
Starting point is 00:27:50 but I'm just call them zombies. Right. Yeah, just call them zombies. That's what they look like. So I'm kind of interested in that part because it kind of gives me a walking dead early days vibe to where you didn't really have to worry about, you didn't really have to worry about the zombies.
Starting point is 00:28:08 You had to worry more about the other people. Yeah. Well, I'm worried this trailer gives a little too much away Because like that very final scene with the priest That's like I didn't really want to know that was going to happen That kind of gives a lot of way And is that one zombie Killian Murphy It looks like him
Starting point is 00:28:26 They said no They said he will show up in one of the movies They're not saying which movie But they said that is They said that is not him Okay Looks like him. Or that could be full of shit.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Don't lie to me. He'll become a good zombie by the second movie. I'm into it. I've liked to say the first two movies. So I'm interested to see where they're going to take this story 28 years later. And I believe the second movie is called the Bone Temple, 28 years later, the bone. Because we got that shot of that tower made of bones. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Some heavy-duty stuff, man. Yeah, man. I'm excited. Yeah. And I think... I think Aaron Taylor Johnson, I think he's been kicking ass lately and a lot of the roles he's been in.
Starting point is 00:29:24 No pun intended? Yeah. I like him in everything I've seen him in. I'm to the point where let him have James Bond. Let him try. Yeah, I think he could pull it up. Why not?
Starting point is 00:29:40 I mean, I originally, I wanted Ed, but Idris came out and said he's like I'm too fucking old to be doing it. Yeah, he's past that stage, I think. Yeah, he would have been perfect. If they were going to do Edress, it should have been like Daniel Craig era. I was thinking, I know we're not talking about 20 years later, but I was thinking maybe they should do James Bond as a series in each season. It's a different actor. Like the actor who?
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah. Actually, that makes a lot of sense. Well, where is it now? Amazon? Yeah, Amazon owns it. Okay. So, we'll see. I don't hate that idea.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I don't hate that idea at all. Yeah, all these people with all these people with their fan castings. Cast them all. Yeah. Henry Cavill could be Season 2. He could. Oh, my God. Dane Dahan could play Jaws.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And from the Roger Moore movies. No, Dane DeHan would be like. the one who's the one that was James Bond for like one movie Roger was it not Roger Moore Timothy Dalton no Timothy dog got two movies oh you're talking about George Lazzenby George Lazzinby yeah George Lazzinby oh okay okay and the house to George Lassonby he'd be a one and done oh no Goldnigh he had a couple of them didn't he that was a Sean
Starting point is 00:31:13 Congre, wasn't it? No, Golden Eye. That was... Roger Moore. No, it was the newer one. Oh. Oh, Goldenow. You talk about the...
Starting point is 00:31:22 Oh, Goldman. Somebody's yelling at us right now. I know. I can't think of his fucking name right now. Pierce Brosnan. Yeah. Ding, ding, ding, ding. I'm going to make you guys watch Mamma Mia.
Starting point is 00:31:34 But he had two or three of them, I guess, didn't he? I didn't like most of his movies. They were kind of... Which one was the one where he was selling? Surfing. Hang glided surfing or whatever. It's pretty rough, man. Is it a James Bond?
Starting point is 00:31:52 It was like a Harry. Yeah. It was a James Bond. It was like a parody, Philip. It felt like a comedy version of James Bond. Austin Powers did it better. I remember sitting in the theater when he started surfing. I was like, are you fucking serious?
Starting point is 00:32:08 Yeah, kind of like escape from L.A. Snake Pliskin started surfing. All right, 28 years later, June 20th in theaters. All right. A little more excited about this one, I think, than Campbell, Rowan, whatever. Rowan Campbell. All right, let's give a chance. Lance, you're going to have to explain this one to me, the life of Chuck.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Oh, yeah, this is going to be great. Directed by Mike Flanagan, starring Kear, Karen Gillians, Tom Hiddleston, David Dalsmaltian. I think I got his name right that time. Oh, Poconat Man, right? Yep. Mark Hamill. Ah, all right, well.
Starting point is 00:32:58 This is Mark Camel a lot. Chewy to Edgua Ford. Chewy? Oh. Oh, I like him. I like him a lot. Lance, can you explain the life of Chuck? Because after the teaser and the trailer, I have no idea what this movie is about.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I'm sorry, do this movie? Yeah, they've been meaning to release this for like a year, haven't they? I mean, this one's been a long time coming. What was the one with Ben Stiller? Didn't they have a life of Chuck with him? The Life of Walter Diggard. Oh, wrong thing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I was like, I feel like I've seen this. Close. Close. Oh, man. No, it's hard to, it's hard to describe because it kind of needs. Have you read the book? Oh, hell yeah. I love it.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And watching this. it's every scene in the in the trailer is right out of the book right out of the book so it's just basically it's it's it's hard to describe because it's it's in the life of somebody but weird things start happening and it's kind of almost like the oneness of the universe like is is what you perceive only what you're perceiving or is are you literally perceiving everything in the universe and it's it's a trip man it's it's one of the trippier Stephen King books that I've read. That went in the long walk was super trippy.
Starting point is 00:34:18 So kind of ironic they're both coming out. They both have Mark Hamill. Yeah, Mark Hamill must be an old acid hit. Fucking Mark Hamill. I was going to terrible asses. He's a great Luke Skywalker. Is he friends with Stephen King
Starting point is 00:34:32 or something? I think he is, yeah. And I think he's also friends with the filmmaker, right? Because hasn't he shown up in some of his series? Yeah. Sorry if you hear dogs barking. I can't control. old. Oh man, it wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:34:45 a four returns without dog's barking. I'm looking at the cast list. There's also Matthew Lillard, Jacob Tremblay. Mia Sarah. He plays Young Chuck, right? That's a blast from the past. Who? Beas Sarah. Ferris Beals
Starting point is 00:35:00 his girlfriend. Oh, wow. How old is she? I don't know. About our age. I'm not going to fucking 60 by now. Yeah, my age. Of course, he's got his wife, Kate Siegel in here. I didn't picture in the trailer, but of course she has to be in it, right?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Oh, Lance, Harvey Gillen, Gillian. Ah, what we do in the shadows? Yeah, he's in here, too. That's going to be a great movie. It's going to be great. Well, I don't know if it's going to be the best Stephen King movie ever. Right. Them's big words.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Yeah, I like in the trailer it said from the heart and soul of Mike Flanagan. That's, you had me at Mike Flanagan. I'm going to watch anything that that dude does at this point. All right. This one is also coming in theaters June 6. Meet there. Yeah. That is the trailers.
Starting point is 00:35:58 You got some good trailers this week, man. Yeah. All two of them, but that's cool. I went ahead and watched it. I went ahead and watched another couple of trailers because I started going on the YouTube rabbit holes. So, you know. Which ones did you watch? Oh, what was it?
Starting point is 00:36:13 Fantastic. 4. Oh, the new one? Yeah. I'm, I'm ready for it. I like, I like this retro, retro futuristic, other world feel.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah. It's just, the Fantastic 4 is just, it's a silly group. It kind of felt, the trailer, the trailer kind of makes you feel like they're going to play into how silly it is.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah, I'm sure they will. I hope it's good. We'll see. They've been trying to, The only problem is I like the cast, but I'm not sold on Joe. Was Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm? Yeah, me neither.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Like a flamboyant Johnny Storm. He looked like the pimp that landed in the snow and created a hot tub and got the chicks in it. Yeah. Kind of weird, man. My favorite Johnny Storm moment was Deadpool and Wolverine. Oh, yeah. And it kind of seemed like him and the thing were like, buddy, buddy. I kind of liked the way it was in the other movies,
Starting point is 00:37:22 how they just kind of had this back and forth shit talking. Yeah, hopefully they'll have some of that. That makes more sense. This one, they're all arms around each other. Like, oh, we're friends. I'm like, no. All right. On to some listener feedback.
Starting point is 00:37:44 This week we're going to shine the podcast spotlight on the glory hole the glory hole podcast. The gory hole. Oh, the gory hole. That makes more sense. All right. I don't know if I want to shine a spotlight on any kind of glory hole. The gory hole. That makes more sense.
Starting point is 00:38:03 BFF's Jenny and Nikki. I'm sorry, Jenny and Nikki, started a podcast because why not? The comedy horror podcast is dedicated to all things. gory, gross, and kind of immature, like the glory. Each week, one of them will surprise the other one with a topic that could be gross, gory, or immature. Or just plain weird. So check out the gory hole podcast. Don't go to the wrong one.
Starting point is 00:38:34 That's a different thing. All right. In regards to Ryan Gosseling. producing a new killer clowns movie. Nicole Faith, Faffer, says, why.
Starting point is 00:38:50 There's that why, Brian. And Brian says, why not? If it's bad, then you don't have to watch it again. But if it's good, you got another great movie to watch.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah. Man, glass half full. Yeah, it's not like they're redoing standby me or something, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah. Let's see. In regards to Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the next generation. Martin Bart says worst Texas movie ever. I've been sick the past week, so I've just been watching random horror movies. I don't care what anybody says. This movie is fucking hilarious. You should watch it.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Who is in this one? Matthew McConaughey. Renee Zelliger. Yeah. Oh, she's so. she is so bad in it. Yeah. You should watch it for that.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And Matthew is Sonaughey. I haven't seen it. He is fucking, Lance, he is doing this. He is hamming it up. Like they told him, just do whatever the fuck you want. When we say action, do whatever you want. And it works. That's such a weird casting.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Eddie Bastag says, this one was just all around repugnant. annoying and just a waste of film. This is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Wee! Yikes. Guy Demon Sinclair says the only Texas
Starting point is 00:40:23 that has a death that still haunts me. The girl getting her head stepped on. Ooh. Yeah. So they'd great sound design on that one. Oh. I don't remember it specifically, but I take it.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Kind of spoochy, huh? Yeah. Well, Matthew, kind of has a, for some reason, he has a knee brace on that has a remote control to it. Have we not done? Have we not watched this for a commentary? Yeah. The idea's out there now, so we might have to.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Not a terrible idea. If anybody wants to watch it, it's on Shudder right now or AMC Plus. Okay. I'm going to check it. I haven't seen it in years. and we have a Bonsman review another one Tony Zavaglia says
Starting point is 00:41:20 Great show My only complaint is that the episodes and season Are not long enough Yeah, that's my only complaint too Oh, because you said they're like 30 minutes episodes, huh? Yeah, 30 minutes and there's only eight episodes And
Starting point is 00:41:34 Me and my daughter finished it like the eighth episode finished and then I was like looking for something else to watch and she was like we're not going to finish the show and I was like, that's it. Right. She was just like, what?
Starting point is 00:41:48 Hey. But I'll definitely have to check it out. Yeah, it's fun. Let's see. In regards to the splatter cast, Katie Olson says, found this guy a couple months back and I've been binging the fuck out of his lists. I have found great movies,
Starting point is 00:42:06 great movie wrecks. And for the movies I've already seen, I agree with almost all of his movie opinions, minus a couple. Even the reviews of his that I don't agree with, I'd still like to watch because he's got great takes and viewpoints on his reviews. I might actually rewatch Skinnamarink because I like his tape in the movie so much. Huh. Splattercast. Is that on YouTube, right? Yeah, he's on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I found him. I also like YouTube videos where they have lists of records. recommendations and he's got he had some he has some youtube videos with recommendations of movies that i've never even heard so all right awesome and skinnamarink rewatching it good luck not me not me dude i still haven't watched it the first time because everybody said it sucked so bad and i'm like it's not good but i still i think when me and nez talked about it we both agreed we wanted to reach out to the director
Starting point is 00:43:10 because I think there's something that everybody's missing Has the director done anything else? He has another movie coming to Shutter. I forgot what it is. I think Shutter. Well, all right.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Skinner Skinner, Kinnamarek Dink, Kiddink. Kyle Edward Ball, huh? I thought you said something about The Land of Nod. You talked about that on news one week. Yeah, that's what he's got coming. Okay. Oh, it is a Clive Barker
Starting point is 00:43:43 book, I think, right? Yep. All right. Mystery solved, Philip. There it is. All right. And the beast must die. Hey. Matt Wood says, as recommended by Philip on the last show. And it was on my watch list, so let's do this. Thunder twonk.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Great. fucking name. I'll just stop it there. Thunder Twonk says, I saw this one on VHS back in the day. I even paused it where the film gives you time to figure out who the werewolf is. It's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Why not? And that's it for listener feedback. Our intro and logos come from Steve Carlton from the geeks. Sorry, he wasn't here today, but he was on the break. But be on the lookout for some more great stuff from him. Also, our original skull artwork comes from Natsulani.
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Starting point is 00:45:03 Oh, okay. Oh, this was just because the new movie was coming out. Gotcha. Yeah, that's right. That's right. New release. All right. On to our main attractions. We get back into the theater for Drop as well as 2004 Cellular.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Well, you guys got back in the theater. I had to sail the seas. Somebody brought a handy cam into the theater for you, huh? Yeah, they were not playing it in my theater. Oh, no. Well. But we'll start with, uh, 2004's cellular.
Starting point is 00:45:40 A young man receives an emergency phone call on a cell phone from an older woman. The catch. The woman claims to have been kidnapped, and the kidnappers have targeted her husband and child next. Director is David R. Ellis,
Starting point is 00:45:55 also known for Shark Knight. From an older woman. I know. I know. Sound like the setup for a... Like, how does he know? I know. It's weird. writers are Larry Cohen
Starting point is 00:46:10 and Chris Morgan Chris Evans did his own car stunts Oh, that makes sense Why he spun around that corner so fucking terribly Before production began He was trained for five weeks at a Los Angeles Stunt School Most of the stunts are done by the actors themselves
Starting point is 00:46:29 That's cool Now that's trivia Why'd you bring out last week Why'd you bring out the fucking German bus or whatever? The German? I can't remember. That was all the... Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:46:46 That's what... That's all they have. That's for one of the howling movies. That's right. All right, Lance, you want to start us off on cellular? Yeah, this movie's cheesy, man. I'd forgotten how bad this was. I mean, it's not bad, bad, but...
Starting point is 00:47:04 Wow, bear with me, dude. I mean, look, first of all, that silly video, like when he's talking to her and he can see her in the video, they didn't have that technology back then, did they? Maybe I'll have a lot of technology in movies nowadays. In 2006? When he films Jessica Beale and he's playing it back later on his phone, it looks all super crisp. Yeah, well, it wouldn't have been to that super crisp, but it was available, though, right? Like that was saying? I almost looked at it up.
Starting point is 00:47:35 I almost looked it up. I got two years. Well, it was the future of 2004, Lance. Yeah. That's true. That's true. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Well, I don't know, man. This one didn't really catch me that much. I mean, I, I, shh. Maybe I shouldn't have gone first. You guys are going to roast me. I'd go if you want me to. Yeah, Chris Evans was fun, but the setup to me was, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:48:04 a lot holy. What you got, Brian? I always thought this movie was fun. The cast is good. You got Chris Evans, Kim Basinger, Jason State them, when he almost had hair. There are a shitload of people in this movie. Every time somebody came on screen, I was like, hey, I know that guy. Yeah, the guy you were talking about from Fired Out.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Yeah, sure. That man. Yeah, Jessica Beal. yeah well she's yeah she's pretty odd she's kind of next level william h macy is the the cop the classic classic days from retirement cop oh yes i was this close even has to use his service revolver to kill somebody and he even mentions he was like i was weeks away from this sherry he said something about 27 years i didn't have to do this shit You listen here, Buccarul.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I was in this force for 27 years and I never had to fire my weapon, okay? And it's good to see Jason Statham as a villain. I think he should do more villain roles. Yeah. He's just got a look and a feel to him that I think it just plays more better if he's a villain. Yeah, definitely a bad guy. I know it's outrageous, but I just like the storyline of she's doing whatever she can to get help. and she's like clicking these wires and she gets a connection and it dials his phone randomly.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Sure, anybody would have just hung up and like, lady, you're fucking crazy. But, you know, we wouldn't have got a movie. Not Captain America, though, huh? Yeah, boy, she's hamming it up in this movie. Yeah. And how did she hot, how the fuck did she hot wire a broken telephone, Brian? She's a, doesn't she like a professor or teacher or something? She's a 10th grade biology teacher.
Starting point is 00:50:04 which came in handy when she cut that guy out. Yeah. She cut them. Well, that is true. Yeah, that is true. You think that's going to do anything? And then she was like, then she took him to class and was like, well, your body's going to pump this much blood out.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Well, the old, like, rotary phones and shit, I think that's kind of how they work. As long as you've got, like, the phone line actually coming to the phone. Well, you're the electrician, dude. I'm not. I mean, I don't know. I don't know about telephone wiring a whole. a whole lot. Aside from wiring little telephone jacks,
Starting point is 00:50:38 but it might work that way. My dad did that for a while. He worked for Southwestern Bell before AT&T took him over, and he subscribed to a magazine called telephony. I said, Dad, what the hell is telephony?
Starting point is 00:50:54 He was really into it. He worked on the phone lines and everything, so too bad, Dad's not still here. He could set me straight on this one. There you go. Let me tell you. Because at first I was like, is she just working on a broken phone on the floor? There has to be like a phone line coming into it.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And then there actually was one. Yeah. I'm looking at us. It also had that one guy that's always an, he's always an asshole in every. Yes. I know the guy you're talking about. No, the guy that he stole the Porsche from. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:31 That dude plays a dick in everything. Everything. Yeah. He's very typecast. Hostile. He was, what was he in? A couple years ago. Thanksgiving, he was the dad.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That's him. He plays the same guy in every movie. He does. He plays a great jack-off, though. Dushback. But I enjoyed the movie.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I thought it had some good action sequences, some good suspense to it. I mean, come on, you got to love a movie where they named a kid Ricky Martin. That's true. Which dates the movie because my daughter was like, who? It was like Ricky Martin. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:17 She might know Ricky Bobby better than Ricky Martin. I don't know. But yeah, I had a lot of fun with it. It was a good rewatch. Like going back to see where Chris Evans started. Yeah. Yeah. This was young.
Starting point is 00:52:32 He was doing this and not another team movie. Oh, that's right. That's right. I forgot about that one. Let me look at it. Was this before Fantastic Four? Yeah, I think so. Right?
Starting point is 00:52:45 Yeah. I just kept expecting to hear him say, I can do this all day, you know? Like when he was driving the car. No, this is super young, Chris Evans, man. This was early, early days. Pretty Fantastic Four, right, Brian? Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:02 He did Fantastic Four a year later. Okay. Yeah, but this one, like, I think he was known, but still, like, not big. Yeah, that makes sense. I kind of liked it, man. It was definitely, it definitely was cheesy. Like, there was a whole lot of cheese, and you have to, like, just suspend disbelief on this movie completely. Sure.
Starting point is 00:53:29 But it was, it was a fun, like, 2,000. era movie, you know? Like, there were so many fucking people in this, like every person that popped up on the screen, the little Vietnamese artist guy that pops up, he was, uh... About tell me to chill.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yes. You don't tell me chill. You chill. I chew you. You're right, Phil. It has so many people that, like, even if you didn't know the name, you've seen them in a bunch of things. And I knew I recognized him. I looked him up. He was the winner of the first season
Starting point is 00:54:02 of Last Comic Standing, Dat Fan. Ah, that guy's hilarious. There you go. Okay. Jason Statham was great as a villain. I don't know why he doesn't do more villain roles because he's perfect for it. I mean, he's cool as the badass good guy, too,
Starting point is 00:54:19 but he really works as a villain. Maybe he'll do some heel turn now. Yeah. Kim Basinger was really the part for me. for me where it was like every time she was on screen I was like
Starting point is 00:54:35 way over acting yeah yeah she was she was hamming it up hard does she does she have an accent does she like a southern accent right yeah I think that's legit isn't she from Houston or something is she I could be wrong I don't know that now we're going to look that up yeah she is I'd never heard that like a Texas girl from Athens Georgia
Starting point is 00:55:00 at this. All right. There you got. Georgia Peach. Because when she was talking, I couldn't get eight mile when she was in eight mile out of my head. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I just never, I never really noticed her accent before. Yeah, I didn't really notice a whole lot either. And usually a lot of the southern accents I, I definitely hone in on when they're not Texan. Because like the Texan accents, I don't. Distinct.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I don't even hear anything. But you throw somebody with Mississippi on, and I'm like, right. Are you faking this? What the fuck is this? The fucking fast and furious Tokyo drift, that kid. I was like, what kind of fake fucking bullshit southern accent is this? I don't know. It's really Alabama.
Starting point is 00:55:57 But no, yeah, I had a pretty good time with it. It kept you entertained. I thought the pacing was pretty good. Yeah, unlike, well, yeah, it was well-paced. No slow spots, right? Yeah. I mean, it was definitely Hollywood cheese, but it had to be more pace. I think you're alluding to the next movie, Lance.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I think it had to be because this is categorizes action thriller. And that makes sense. That's exactly what this is, is an action thriller. That makes 100% sense. My daughter was watching it with this, and she was, like, totally entrenched in it. There you go. Watching it the whole time. Yeah, it passes the test then.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Yeah. So it keeps your attention, at least. It's got a lot of flashy lights. Passes the millennial test. But, yeah, no, I enjoy it. All right. So I guess we go scores, Lance, what do you think? Right in the middle.
Starting point is 00:56:59 for me. It's a five. Yeah, it's not great. It's not horrible. It's very cheesy, bad acting. Hard for me to figure out how to hot wire a phone, but Philip explained it to me. So, five it is. Because I think on the rotary phones, when you flip it, it just clicks it that number of times when it goes around. You need realism in your voice, don't make sense. Not necessarily, no. I like silly stuff, too, but... Well, Phil, you could have to be able to. Well, Phil, you could have told me that that's the truth and it sounded like the truth to me. It sounded really good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I feel like I've heard that before, but I could be making it up. It's possible. Well, she's lucky she caught someone at her area code, right? She could have reached somebody in New York, and she was in L.A., and they're like, I can't do anything, sorry. Oh, true. Long distance. Just happened to call Captain America.
Starting point is 00:57:52 That's probably before you had to dial area codes. Yeah, that's true. That makes sense. those days? Oh yeah. Vaguely. Vagely. Brian, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:58:05 I enjoyed it. I'm going to give it a seven. I thought the action was good. The acting wasn't that bad to me. Some of these people was like early in their career. Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And just thank God she was clicking wires and she got a hold of probably the nicest fucking guy. to go through everything he went through to save a woman, which he didn't even know if this was true or not.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I know, and his whole thing was getting back with this girlfriend who said that he was like immature and all that shit. Which he never brought the t-shirts. He never brought the t-shirts, and they never went back to that storyline until she fucked up his whole process. That made my daughter so mad. The scene on the pier,
Starting point is 00:58:57 and she came and smacked him on the head, started yelling at him. She was like, what a bitch, huh? What is she doing? But yeah. I figured they'd go back to her at the end, and they didn't do that. Maybe it was the after credits. We didn't stick around.
Starting point is 00:59:15 No, the after credits was every time he looked at his phone during the movie. Yeah, that was cheesy. Oh, yeah. That was horrible. Well, but that was for the after credit thing, you know, like there weren't after credit scenes back then so that was like a fun way to do the credits so I don't the first first after credit scene I remember was the original airplane the cab driver wait there yeah go back and watch it you'll see what I mean fair enough
Starting point is 00:59:43 we'll watch airplane too when you get the after credit scene the coming soon airplane three you never got it never got it never got it kind of like we never got Jews in space right after history of the world Or we kind of did. Didn't they do part of that in that terrible history of the World Part 2 TV series on Comedy Central or whatever? Speaking of him in space, we never got machete in space. Not yet. We haven't yet.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Leonardo DiCaprio was supposed to be the villain, even though they didn't show his face, because clearly he wasn't in the fake trailer. Maybe they just named a hunt. I'm going to go. Mark Hamill. Mark Hamel. Well, he can play a good, ridiculous villain. He's great in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
Starting point is 01:00:35 How about that? I'm going to go seven also. I had a pretty good time with this one. It was definitely worth a watch if you haven't seen it in a while. Just, yeah, it's not super duper realistic. But it is pretty entertaining. So there's that. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:01 On to the new one. Drop. 2025. Widowed mother's first date in years takes a terrifying turn when she's bombarded with anonymous threatening messages on her phone during their upscale dinner, leaving her questioning if her charming date is behind
Starting point is 01:01:19 the harassment. I never got that idea. Yeah. I had the description. I had the thought a couple of times. Yeah, for a split. second. Yeah, he was too nice.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Director is Christopher Landon, also known for Happy Death Day and the upcoming Happy Death Day to us. Writers are Jillian Jacobs and Chris Roach. Loosely inspired by Olivia
Starting point is 01:01:51 Swee's experience at a dinner with her partner, executive producer Sam Lerner, and friend producer Cameron Fuller, where Suee kept receiving random Shrek memes via AirDrop. Shrek.
Starting point is 01:02:07 The whole AirDrop thing is a little weird, isn't it? It is a little weird, huh? You could just send shit to a random phone that's close to you without... Seems odd, right? There's no permissions, or, like, you just drop some shit on somebody's phone? What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:02:25 That's kind of weird. All right. Brian, you want to start us off? on this one? Yeah, I'm kind of in the middle on this one. There was a little, there was times where it was good suspense. I like the idea of the air drop thing. I like the way it was filmed sometimes, how her text messages would be right beside her or whatever the meme or video she was looking at would be playing behind her. Yeah. I like that stuff. They even show like the reflection of the words in the mirror. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:59 I thought that's cool I like that it was more of a murder mystery in the beginning a whodunit because it kind of made you think it could be this guy, could be this chick could be the bartender, it could be
Starting point is 01:03:16 the hostess, it could be like you said it could be her date even though I quickly crossed him off the list because I was like this guy is way too fucking nice I really want to find out what he did to want someone to kill him. He is way too nice.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Way too nice. And he asked for a specific table. Yeah. Okay. I hear what you're saying. But the one thing that really just kind of didn't sell me on the movie was her. Uh-oh. Her acting didn't really sell me the dread.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yeah. Her facial expressions to her just looking at her phone and noticing, like, there's a masked man with the gun standing in your hallway with your sister in one room and your son in another room. That's true. Realistically, she'd have flipped out right there. Yeah, I kind of felt like... Turn the table over, right? Getting out of there. There's some flashbacks to some traumatic stuff she went through in the past.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I kind of felt like she showed more... emotion in those scenes than she did in the scenes where she was getting the airdrops and stuff like that and it just wasn't she just wasn't selling me throughout the movie and then the movie goes from who done it to action the last like 20 minutes yeah okay which was it was a good change of but by that time I had already been turned off of the movie from just her acting alone it wasn't the worst acting, but I just think maybe she was just not directed well
Starting point is 01:05:02 enough. Okay. I like to. And Brendan Scalar, the super nice looking guy. What I understand, he is on a lot of people's fan castings for Batman.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Huh. Okay. I don't know. I don't know if he's greedy enough. I don't know who that dude is, but I think he might be able to pull it off. Well, I know people were talking about him like he was somebody I should know. So I was like, I don't know who he's in.
Starting point is 01:05:36 He's in the Yellowstone prequel, 1923. Is that what it is? I think so. Yeah. And he plays like the great, great, great uncle of Kevin Koster's character. And his name is Spencer Dutton. And he is AJ's new hall pass officially. she announced it.
Starting point is 01:05:59 From what I understand, he's a lot of people's hall passes. It's good-looking dude. I don't blame him. And he always plays a super nice guy. So if he were to play a villain, he'd probably pull it off pretty well. It's very disarming, right? Yeah. And real quick, when it was revealed why this person or these people wanted him dead,
Starting point is 01:06:27 It's just kind of a generic plot line. I was just kind of like, wow, wow. Yeah. I guess that makes sense. All right. Lance, what do you think? There's not a lot to add. I mean, Brian nailed it.
Starting point is 01:06:44 You know, it's, yeah, they definitely needed to find it in more dynamic lead. You know, they, yeah, I did kind of enjoy the murder mystery aspect early on, but, like, for example, okay, there was one character that they were like going way out of their way to make this character look super suspicious and snakey. And I'm like well, it ain't him.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Yeah, I know. It's like they were just going, they were going way too far out of their way. Usually, well, I mean, I like the happy, I won't say I usually like this director because I think he did some, uh, what did he do? Some of the, um, the ghost movies, what are they called?
Starting point is 01:07:25 The ghost dimension or, Paranormal activity, right? Paraneliorativity, yeah. Yeah, not a fan of that series, but I like all the Happy Death Day movies. He did Freaky, right? Freaky was good. It was fun. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Yeah. He did Scouts guy to zombie apocalypse. And that was great. That's probably the best of everything he's done. Oh, he did Disturbia, with Shia LaBoof. That's pretty good one. That's right. Yeah, it's...
Starting point is 01:07:53 I was just watching Shia LeBuff's music video with Sia. Yeah. with that little girl, which is super fucking weird. But it's because Rose was watching dance moms, and that's what that little girl is from. Yes, that's right. Yeah, I didn't know that. You got to see this new trailer for this movie called Salvageable?
Starting point is 01:08:14 Uh-uh. I haven't heard of this one. He's got like an Irish accent. I watched that peanut butter Falcon one. That was good. That was really good. Yeah. Inspirational.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Yeah. So he can do some good stuff, but he's weird. In real life, he's fucking weird. He likes to fix fights with people and shit. No, I watch... Substance abuse issues, perhaps. I watched some police body cam footage when he got arrested. Oh, he's screaming in the back of a cop car.
Starting point is 01:08:46 He's an insane person. All right, well... I should probably brought that up in the cool of the week. I've been watching a lot of body cam, dash cam, doorbell cam. on. On YouTube? Yeah. People were hilarious.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Oh, yeah. Do you think those are, do you think those are staged, Brian, or do you think those are legit? If they were staged, then good job, because I believe they're one of them. Oh, no. The podcast footage definitely is not. There are just some wild fucking people out there. Especially probably, probably in Florida, right?
Starting point is 01:09:26 particularly yeah my daughter women who get pulled over for being drunk those are the best my daughter kept asking why is every video start out with in Florida oh that makes perfect sense yeah makes perfect sense it was like if we watch like 10 videos it would be like
Starting point is 01:09:46 eight videos we're like in some random city in Florida plant city Jupiter oh plant city yeah that's right down the road from us. Jupiter is just a little bit south of us, yeah. But go ahead, sorry, we were talking about drop. Yeah, okay, so to me,
Starting point is 01:10:07 the movie was like, the movie was very sluggish. And how long was it? Because it felt like three fucking hours to me. It was just slogging along. I did not like the setup at the beginning. Brian, you said you at least appreciated her acting in that scene, but I thought, oh my God, what, the fuck are we watching here this is like a lifetime movie and then you know then we go first oh or like
Starting point is 01:10:33 with her sister or you're talking about that little 30 second no with snippet at the beginning yeah the snippet at the beginning yeah flashback now her sister maybe they should have swapped she was cool because i like the sister yeah she had yes but man i liked her i liked her a lot but then again well we'll have to get into spoilers it's just like i said that last movie right i don't believe this You got to suspend disbelief. Well, that happens to this one too. Oh, for sure. Some people who live that should live. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I'm like, man, this guy's awful. What did you think? What did you think, Philip? So I was thinking kind of the whole time while I was watching it. It's one of those, what would I do in this situation kind of movies. Okay. Yeah. And I enjoy that. You know, I liked it. It kind of took me along for the ride. it did it did drag on a little bit i think um i didn't hate her acting so much but it was very like vanilla yeah i wasn't saying i wasn't saying her she was a bad actress or anything it's just
Starting point is 01:11:45 i don't think she got the proper to maybe neither not right for the role or she didn't get the proper direction right because it's just times when she's looking at her phone especially the scene where the guy's waving the gun like, you know, I'm at your house. Yeah. And it zooms in on her face. And she just not, I don't see terror. I see just like, oh, I'm confused. What's going on?
Starting point is 01:12:09 Why didn't he use a tree from the Happy Death Day movie? She would have. That would have been fucking awesome because I don't know why. I just, that actress, I think, Jessica Roth. I don't think I've seen her in a lot. since then. Well, she was in Abigail. No, that was Catherine Newton.
Starting point is 01:12:31 No, I thought, I thought Jessica, oh, you're right. Well, there you go. So, yeah, I don't think we've seen her in much. No, she was actually in that Boy Kill's World, but she wore her fucking motorcycle helmet for me. Yeah, she had that, yeah, okay. All right, that's what it was. Um, yeah, I just, uh, I don't, I didn't hate the movie.
Starting point is 01:12:56 I definitely didn't. It kept me entertained the whole time. But there were a lot of, especially once it got towards the end. Like, at some point during this whole process, I feel like you got to get fed up and do something. Right. And she, like, didn't fucking do anything this whole movie. You know what I mean? She just sort of did what the fuck they told her to do.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Well, I mean, she eventually does listen. You got, you got like, 50s. 15, 20 minutes left in a movie. Sort of. Yeah. Sort of. Well, and then she makes another horrific mistake while she's doing that. And then the whole scene, well, we'll get to it in spoilers.
Starting point is 01:13:37 The whole scene at the end, I was like, what the fuck, man? Yeah. Keystone cops, wasn't it? Yeah, I'll get into it. Even at the restaurant, I was like, how do you even know what the fuck she's talking about right now? but we'll get there um all right i guess we'll go scores and scorers uh brian uh i'm kind of with you i didn't hate the movie i kind of actually i kind of seen the trailer i kind of expected a little more out of it i thought he was going to be a little more suspenseful than it was um clarified and i don't think she acted bad i just
Starting point is 01:14:23 she just maybe just wasn't right for the role and yeah I looked up the runtime lance it's an hour and 40 minutes they probably could have shaved at least 10 to 15 minutes off to runtime yeah they could have and should have right this felt like a direct to Netflix movie or something to me that's exactly what it felt like yeah I felt a little ripped off though into the theater to see it
Starting point is 01:14:51 who did this movie This seems like it would have been a direct to streaming. You can wait for streaming for this one, for sure. Oh, that's why. Uh-oh. Been blown. Oh, no. We've been blumbed.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Not again. With that being said, I'm kind of right in the middle. This movie's a five. Okay. All right. Lance? I'll be a little more generous.
Starting point is 01:15:22 I'll give it a six. I'll give it a six. I'll give it a six. Yeah, I think six is probably a fair score for this movie. Because it did keep me entertained. I didn't hate watching it. I'm not going to remember a whole lot about it next week, but it was all right. I liked it more than I did for sure.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Cool. All right. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
Starting point is 01:16:03 You've been fucking warned. There's a scene you were going to bring out at the end. Yeah, okay. So I had a couple of issues at the end when she figured out who was sending the messages and she like spiked his Tiramisu or whatever the fuck it was that he was in. And then she has to, like, fucking tell him about it. Right. Like, you could have just waited for the motherfucker to die and not said anything.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Right. It would have saved your new boyfriend. It would have saved the poor girl behind the counter that got stabbed in death. Oh, God, I felt so bad for her. I know. I suspected her part of the time. For a minute. Yeah, for a minute.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Yeah, she was also too nice. Then she was proven not to be anybody but just a bartender, and then she gets stabbed violently to the back with the giant steak knife. Yeah, she got a raw deal. How did he get the dollar bill in this salad? Makes no sense, does it? Makes no sense. They didn't show that after.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Did he have somebody working on the inside that moved it from the bar over the south? Well, it has to be somebody that works there at this point, right? Exactly. Yeah. and it wasn't, and I don't understand that. Yeah, because he was over there sitting there with the date that was so atrocious or whatever. Or was he sitting with the date? Maybe the date was... Yeah, he wasn't.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Next time we saw him, he was not sitting with anybody. That's because the date got mad and left because he was staring at her the whole night. Well, I think she was planning there to get everybody's attention on her instead of what he was doing. Making a scene, you know? being a Karen? I don't know. Making this movie better than it actually. Unless she worked in the fucking kitchen,
Starting point is 01:17:56 it still doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't make any sense, does it? And then, yeah, she could have just shut the fuck up and not said anything, and then he would have just died in his dessert, and nobody would have been the wiser. But she didn't,
Starting point is 01:18:13 and it caused a whole action scene that seemed like it was kind of out of nowhere. And then, So after her boyfriend gets shot, she's like, let me have the keys of your car. And he's like, yeah, I'll call the cops. Here you go. I'm like, you don't even know what the fuck she's talking about.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Where to all this knowledge come from? Why does he have the pictures with him? Also true. Why did you bring them on the day? Yeah, leave them alone. Yeah, that's a great point. And as nice as her house is, guys, as quick as she got there from down. downtown Chicago, that must be a $7.8 million home to be that close to the center.
Starting point is 01:18:54 She was driving on Michigan Avenue, most expensive part of Chicago in the middle of the city, and she gets home in time to stop the killer. Right. Come on, man. Who had been told to kill the family, who had been told to kill the family before that action scene ever started. Oh, no, you guys are talking me down. I'm going down as we speak. No, this is your new night swim.
Starting point is 01:19:21 No, it's not. Oh, shit, and it's the same school. Yeah. I've been blunt. I'd watch this again before I'd watch night swim. Yeah. I've been blonde. It happens every year.
Starting point is 01:19:34 It was later in the year this time. Because I liked the tension. I liked the whole whodunit atmosphere. It was just the ending seemed totally at a left field. and then like the hitman. Ryan Johnson would have done it better, Philip. Yeah, the hitman at the end who decided he was going to go in and kill the kid. Like, first of all, he had already left the sister alive and now she's waking up.
Starting point is 01:20:01 What kind of hitman shoots somebody in the arm? Also true. It takes him 20 minutes to untie the knot to get the kid's door. Like, what are we fucking doing? I'm thinking hitman. I'm thinking. three shots. Jason state them.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Yeah. Yeah. Pop him and get the fuck out. What are you doing? It was rough. Trying to help this jackass with his job. He stays they're holding the gun at the sister for 10 minutes. Is somebody going to come in the door and stop me?
Starting point is 01:20:33 Come on. I know. Isn't somebody going to come stop me? This is a movie. Eish. So it was. Is that enough for this one this week, guys? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:42 It is all right. Another week. another look at the beginning. I didn't. I think... I didn't love the ending. I agree with you. I think that they would have stayed
Starting point is 01:20:54 with the whodunit aspect and just built to a big climax at the end instead of just switching to like action sequence. Yeah. Car chase movie. Then I think they would have us just have us guessing who it is up until the very end and then just reveal
Starting point is 01:21:13 ended the movie. And she was swinging corners better than Chris Evans was. I'll tell you that. I don't know how this fucking single mom knows how to do that. She probably wasn't doing her own stunts either. That was Mario Andretti's grandson behind the wheeler. Oh, and the reveal that this whole cliche, I took pictures of the mayor. I was just like, well, that's not fun.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Yeah. All right. scenario in like 50 other movies. Yeah. I mean, at least the only political message was Politicians are corrupt, which pretty important. Really?
Starting point is 01:21:57 Okay. All right, I think we talked enough about this movie. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the horror returns. Visit our website, guys. We haven't had as much traffic there lately. So we're still there.
Starting point is 01:22:16 www. Thehorrorreturns.com. I'm working with Steve to try to come up with some more links and stuff like that to put on there. So we'll see if we can flesh that out a little bit and get more foot traffic in there. But we're all over social, Facebook, not on X. No X anymore. We did something notted. We did something naughty, but we don't know what it was.
Starting point is 01:22:41 So, all right. next week. I was the pictures of Jenna Ortega again, weren't you? Yes, I was. I love my Wednesday pictures. Moving on. Next week, we're going to be joined. Do you guys even remember Jay Black?
Starting point is 01:23:03 Yeah, America's ass. Jay is finally coming back. I know I did that Star Wars episode with us, where we went through all the new ones. was that the last time you were on jay i don't know let us know man but uh we'll see you next week because we're doing gothic vampire week with sinners and interview with the vampire so until the horror returns again philip good night

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