The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #466: Stay Alive (2006) & Until Dawn (2025)

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

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to the horror returns. I'm Lance, with me as always. I co-host Brian and Philip. What's up, guys? What's up? What's happening? All right. That's what's up.

Video game week, Brian. What inspired you? Well, new horror movie paired it up with something that we haven't talked about or watched before. Double-checked. Double-checked the

little bit I got down for our spreadsheet. Make sure we could do this one. I don't even know that I knew that this movie existed. I was like, how have I never seen this? Yeah, we'll talk about it. Yeah, I don't know if I've seen it before either. It didn't seem familiar.

But, uh, all right. Well, we'll jump in. Who's going on Cool of the Week? I'll go. Uh, I got three movies, all action films. Uh, first one is one that came out on Prime, uh, G20, where Viola Davis is the president. I saw the trailer for that. Homelander is the leader of the terrorist.

Of course. It seems like a terrifying terrorist. It's a pretty decent action thriller. If you've seen like Air Force One or White House down or any of those where the president's in danger, the president has to get involved. You know, they did a decent job of letting you know that before she was president, she had a military. background and in the action scene she's just not completely

just kicking everybody's ass. She's getting her ass kicked and getting exhausted and a little realism to it. Wait, so Viola Davis is kicking people's ass in this movie? Yeah. Oh, all right. The president gets

involved, huh? Sure, we'll roll with that. Oh, man. Okay, sure. Yeah. Yeah, like I said, she's not just completely just fucking people. up, you know, she's using the training that they allude to early in the movie. She trains

Jiu-Jitsu and she's just not, you know, knocking people out with punches and kicks. Yeah, sending him flying 20 feet on a wire. But I will say what's his name, Lance, a homelander?

Oh, Anthony Star. Yeah, he's kind of lackluster as the villain. Really? Just knowing what he can do as a villain. Interesting. No, no Alan Rickman in this case, huh? No, over the top.

No, not even close. Okay. What else has he been in besides the boys? Banshee, that TV show Banshee. I was just about to say he's really good. I'd 100% recommend that. That is definitely not for the kids either. Okay.

I don't think I've seen now. I haven't either, but I heard it's good. Lots of violence. Lots of sex. sexy time. He's probably banging somebody like every other episode. Ah, Game of Thrones style. Next up,

I checked out on Netflix. This is directed by Gareth Evans, who did the raid movies. It's called Havoc, starring Tom Hardy. Yeah. That was on my list, too. Have you seen it? I thought the action was pretty fucking fantastic, but I could not tell you what the fuck the story was about.

Oh, do you agree, Phil? Yeah, I was a little diluted. The action scenes were pretty cool. It had a lot of CGI in it, though. Yeah, more so than if you see his older films, like I said, The Raid, there was some CGI, and there was some clear moments where it wasn't Tom Hardy in the action scenes. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, you'll have a guy.

Yeah, a lot of shaky cam. You have a guy like fall off an edge and then like, I mean, I guess it wasn't as bad as like, you know, Frodo walking around and Lord of the Rings, CGI. But like you could tell it was CGI where he's falling down and then he hits the ground. And then they just kind of shake the camera a lot so you don't really notice as much. Whatever works. Like, dude, AI is going to be able to make movies like this for too long. They may already be doing it, you know? I mean, I know they make those little videos on, what is it, like, reels and all that.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Seen a lot of those. And lastly, I checked out one that we reviewed the trailer for. I'm not sure if you were here for that one, Lance. I think that was the week you were gone. Freaky Tales. Oh, okay.

Pedro Pascal Oh, yeah, okay. Ben Mendelssohn. It's got cameos from like Tom Hanks and Marshawn Lynch. What? Oh, yeah, that one. Holy shit. Set in the 80s.

Set in the 80s in Oakland. And it's kind of a... Not an anthology, but it's like four different stories that kind of interact with each other at certain points of the movie. And it's like, it's, the way it's filmed, it's like a throwback, you know, it's kind of got that VHS kind of feel to it. Okay. Okay. Wow.

Do you see Marshawn Lynch and more stuff, man? They need to start casting. Too short narrates it. Oh, too short. Yeah. And, you know, it's understandable. You know, he's from Oakland. It's set in the 80s.

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it actually has a cameo in it. Like I said, Marshaun Lynch, I think, played a bus driver. Tom Hanks was like. like a video store clerk. Sure. It gets kind of ridiculous, but the ridiculous makes it fun, especially what it's said in like four different chapters

in Chapter 4 with the Sleepy Floyd, who played for the Golden State Warriors in the 80s, and also played for the Houston Rockets. Oh, yeah, I remember. Rockets, by the way, were still in there. Barely, but, you know. It was just three and two. now, three and two, I think.

Okay. Okay. We didn't go home like the Lakers did, so. Ah, all right. Well, there is that. But I have to say freaky tales just off of the wackiness and the 80s aspect. It has to be my cool of the week. Nice.

All right. Well, yeah, I'll springboard off the havoc. I think that was, it was fun. I mean, it wasn't a great movie. there was no like real twist ending or anything it was pretty straightforward it was just kind of a fun action flick you know like it was it was like uh that one that thor was in on netflix oh yeah yeah it was kind of like that extraction too yeah yeah yeah yeah i've not seen that i haven't either actually the second one

but yeah this is sort of how i felt about this one it was entertaining um i i mean by no means a great movie, but it was entertaining. Probably calls their Netflix to go at 50 cents a month. Yeah. I had a couple big names in it that were in very small roles. I don't even know why they were in the movie. Forrest Whitaker and Timothy Oliphon. Yeah, no kidding.

Well, they were sort of main characters. They just weren't in it very much. It was a very Tom Hardy-driven movie. He's in everything. And he's doing another accent. Is he? I don't even know how he actually talks. I don't,

you know, I have to agree with you. I don't know what he sounds like anymore. I kept thinking that while the movie was playing, I was like, is this how he talks? I don't understand what's happening. And I watched

the Kevin Bacon one. Oh, the bondsman. The bondsman. Yeah. I burned through that one pretty quick. And it's a little cheesy. It works for TV.

I liked it a lot. Very entertaining. It's got the girl from Sugarland, the lead singer in it. She's like a main character. Yeah. I didn't know she was an actress, but she's not bad.

Apparently so. Okay. Yeah, the ending was cool, but disappointing because it was a huge cliffhanger. It's like, ah, now we got the story going. going. We're just going to drive on for 10 more seasons and there's never going to be an end to it. Come on, man. That's where you leave it. Hopefully not. Hopefully not.

But I had fun with it. So that's going to have to be my cool of the week. Oh, bondsman. Yeah. I'd written down Havoc. All right. Well, Havoc's pretty cool too. So, I mean, it's sort of co-shares the spot. That's about all I've watched. We can do it too for. All right. Yeah. Havoc's cool, but when you like compare it to like the raid. Right. Doesn't compare. No comparison. They like almost wanted to have some sort of John Wick-esque thing going on without as many guns. And it, eh, it wasn't John Wick choreography.

And as far as I know watching the movie, he was just like a regular cop. Well, until he starts fighting and then suddenly he's a fucking ninja. So, uh, action action hero, ninja and all that. So, uh, so Habakk and the Bondsman, got you. All right. I think so, uh, Brian, I did watch him. movie that I think I've told you guys when we watched the trailer that I thought it was

probably going to be right at my alley the death of a unicorn Oh yeah, man I still see that. It's got all the parts. I mean, it's got a great cast, right? And Will Poulter is like becoming the guy to go-to guy to play a douchebag. I kind of want to see what he would have done as Pennywise.

I know, me too. I think he could have pulled off. I think he definitely could have pulled it off. I want to see him in that I want to see him in that war movie that just came out. Warfare? Is he in that? Oh, I really want to see that. Yeah. Well, that's my guy, Alex Garland. So I'm down for that, man.

But, yeah, so it had a great cast. It had, you know, all the beats, right? It was kind of like a fantasy, almost dark fantasy. Not quite horror, I wouldn't say. But it didn't quite nail it for me. I was a little disappointed. I really expected more, you know. And then the A-24 name, Philip.

Yeah. That alone gets it watched by me. But I was a little disappointed, so it didn't quite make cool of the week. You guys haven't seen it yet? Yeah, I talked about it a couple weeks ago. Yeah, but he had kind of the same take on it that you did. It makes me not super glad to see it. Paul Rudd was horribly.

Paul Rudd was like horribly miscast. I couldn't agree more. I think that's it. That's what did it. It's like they cast Paul Rudd. They cast him and they told him, don't do your Paul Rudd thing Don't do Paul Rudd

Holtner was good Pulter was good Oh he stole the show I like that kid man He's gonna be awesome I guess he's not much for kid anymore shit Yeah actually think him in his I actually think him

And uh Was it Richard E. Grand Taya Leone? I think it's the play of his parents I think they as a family Kind of stole the movie Away from Paul Rudd Jen Ortega, who like I said, was just doing her Jenna Ortega thing. I actually kind of felt like she phoned it in this movie.

Really? Yeah. I, who does? I mean, she can normally do no wrong, but I mean, I guess over exposure, eventually you're going to have a sleeper, huh? Or one that's not quite up to par, right? But Wednesday's coming out again, season two, that'll be great. Never finish season one.

I never even started I did I watched them all I liked it I liked it I tried to start it with my daughter she refuses to watch anything Jenna Ortega that's right she can't stand her but is there a reason she just doesn't like her

she tends not to go with the popular the it girl yeah makes sense makes sense wants to be on the outside the rebel right the loner the rebel the rebel

asking since Jenna Ortega's in everything, when is she going to show up in Marvel or Star Wars? And I was like, oh, give it to the time. Might already be in the cards. I'm saying. I mean, Paul Rudd, whoever thought he was going to be a superhero, right? And there

he is. No, my cool of the week, though, you guys ever seen Max on HBO, or I guess I should say Max? The one with Gene Smart, playing the aging, aging comedian, in Vegas. I've come across it.

What's it called? Hacks. Hacks. Yeah. It's like eight or nine episodes of season, 30-minute episodes. Kind of like the Bondsman, right? So you go through them really quickly.

But Gene Smart's fucking hilarious, and she's just cold-blooded. She's like this... She was like a politically incorrect comedian in the 80s and early 90s and made all of her fame and fortune, and then she got like a resident. see in Vegas and she's just been kind of phoning in the same jokes for 20 years and so her her agent

says you need somebody to freshen up your jokes so they bring in this young millennial girl and so she's she's doing all the all the policing the ethics policing of this raunchy old comedian like you really shouldn't call them that anymore uh we've moved on from the word retarded uh you know it's now they and she said i thought it was always they i called them them Oh, you know, you can't say those people. It's pretty hilarious. It's really good, and you get a lot of, a lot of comedians will show up, like, you know, comedians that were big in the 80s and 90s, and they'll kind of show up as cameos,

like they're walking offstage and saying hi to her and stuff like that. So it's really well done, like all the Macs shows. And it's very funny, and it goes, like, super quickly. Very, very bingeable, I would say. So I don't know if you guys get a little spare time and the wife likes it. So, you know, Philip, you might be able to watch it with, not the whole family, because it's probably a kids show, but Rose would probably get into it. It's funny and it's political incorrectness.

And then the video's attempts to correct her, which always fail miserably. So, reach the hacks. Better than what she's got going now. we're in the marathon for dance moms. Oh, boy. Like, I tried not to watch it, and then every once in a while I'll come in, and I'll be like, I can't believe she said that shit.

Ouch. All right. Well, moving on. Horror headlines brought to you by Brian. All right. Mike Flanagan's carry series might add Matthew Lillard to the cat. Would he play John Travolta's character?

I don't know. I was really thinking about it because a lot of people are kind of like who from the original movies are going to play. But, you know, they're adapting the book. So I don't know. It's similar. I mean, I think the movie wasn't that far off from the book. I mean, there's a couple of scenes in the end in the book that aren't in the movie. But it was pretty true to the subject matter.

I'm not sure why everybody's saying, oh, well, let's do it the way the book is, because, I mean, all the characters were there, the same beats were there. I don't think William Kat's character would be Lillard. I think it would have to be a little bit more of a young, you know, athletic type or something, but. I'm going to say,

maybe he's going to play the principal. Who? Dane DeHan. The principal. What? Why? Dane DeHan is going to play the principal? You put it out in the universe now.

Let's do it. He did a great job. a guy with half a head in that's right prime evil that was a great show man that's in contention

for my favorite show of the year somewhere Dane just got super happy he doesn't know why somebody remembered him okay

Shutter acquires the supernatural horror movie good boy which will be told from the dog's POV Jesus Christ

supernatural horror? Yeah, basically like a haunted house, paranormal activity type movie. Apparently this sold out a crowd in South by Southwest. Okay. Well, I mean, because, you know, like,

dogs will sometimes just, like, sit and stare at the corner of the fucking room and start barking and shit, and it's like... That's true. We just, not too long ago, reviewed presence. That was from the ghost's point of view. Yeah, and that was pretty interesting. So.

So, Brian, is it going to be like a horror comedy or just a straight up horror movie? It's just a supernatural horror. It doesn't say comedy at all. Okay, maybe I'm thinking wrong. I'm thinking it's like a comedy. Good boy, you know. Hey, David's trying to protect. He's trying to protect the family from ghosts, man. Are you guys familiar with Takashi Mika? The name's familiar. Yeah, it sounds cool.

Directed the movie audition. Oh, the eye trauma movie. Yeah. Okay. Well, he's got two projects in the works. The first is, are you guys familiar with a singer, Charlie X-CX? Yes, very much so. Brat, right?

Sure. I don't know. I know more than I should, right? She is producing and starring in a project that is untitled. Don't nobody get mad at me. I know I've posted an untitled project. I'm sure someone's going to comment. What is the title?

What is the movie about? Oh, yeah. They're already starting. And the next day was also announced that his actual next feature that he's directing will be, I guess, a spiritual sequel to Bad Lieutenant. called Bad Lieutenant Tokyo. Oh boy.

Like Tokyo Gore Police, Philip. Yeah, that was good one. And this will star WWE superstar Liv Morgan who with this announcement, there's a little wrestling returns news. There's been a lot of speculation

that this movie could make her a new it girl actress and she could be leaving wrestling behind. Oh, the female rock. Have you guys seen his new trailer? The Smashing Machine, based off Mark Kerr, the UFC fighter.

I heard of it. I haven't seen it yet. Check it out. It's like a 824 movie. This is like serious turn. Really? Yeah. He's got the makeup prosthetics. He looks like the actual guy. Okay.

All right. I'm interested. Just I just saw it. To see something different. than a stupid corny action comedy thing yeah yeah he has to do something big he pissed a lot of people off in wrestling oh boy he was part of the big john sina heel turn didn't show up for months and everybody that's that's okay he'll show up for russomania oh was it there uh then gave an interview saying there was never no plans for him to show up People were like, why the fuck were you involved anyways?

To piss people off, right? That's a heel. Well, he's got that board position now. He kind of can do what he wants now. Ironically, I saw him today in an episode of Star Trek Voyager. He just randomly happened to have the rock show up in it. Really? No, he was like a fighter.

It was like an ultimate fighting championship planet. where they beam you down and they make you fight to the death. Oh, that was... I was like one of his first rules. Yeah, he was pretty young. It was definitely young, young rock, for sure. I was going to say, I don't even remember him being on Voyager. Yeah, he was.

Sixth season. I'm trying to see if there's any other news. We might just be going straight to the trailer park. We've been there before. We're always in the trailer park. That's shady. Something's going on. Nothing big.

So that's the news. All right. Then it's time for pride to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's the first new trailer tonight? The new addition to the Fear Street franchise, Fear Street Prom Queen, coming to Netflix. This is directed by Matt Palmer And starring a whole bunch of young people I started off

I'm interested I thought the first The Fair Street trilogy that they put out a few years ago I thought that was real fun And R.L. Stein's Clearly He came out and said that Goosepumps is for the kids But Fair Street kills the kids

okay yeah that holds pretty true I mean it's it's like my least favorite genre of horror is the

slashing teenagers but especially at a prom but just because you know like one guy with a knife if he's just a dude I don't think that works

but Fear Street hasn't sent me wrong so far, so I'll give it a shot. Yeah, that first, what was it, 1994 or whatever was, Fear Street, the first movie. That was a good one. Yeah, that was, yeah, that scene where the girl's head went into the meat slicer. Yeah, that was a good scene. Ooh, wow, that's brutal. Yeah, I haven't seen, I haven't seen any of them, so I guess I got to play ketchup.

Oh, this one's not coming out around Halloween, right? it's coming out in a few weeks? The 23rd. So, all right, I guess I need to watch them then and, you know, or do you think I need to watch the others before this one? No.

No, I don't watch it. The only connection is the town. Shady, shady side or shady veil or whatever it's called. Sounds like where our trailer park is. Yeah. And I will bring that back up about Havoc is it has some pretty interesting kills a couple of times.

like they get a little bit creative with it and it's fun all right I might check it out tonight if I can talk AJ into it that are the final episode of black mirror I've seen all of them but the last one oh dude that's that's a good one yeah the USS Callister the one that was supposed to be a movie yes it's the only one I haven't seen yet yeah it's pretty epic for a black mirror episode I like it that was probably the one I had the most fun with

Nice, okay. Beer Street Prom Queen comes out May 23rd on Netflix. Okay. And now the movie we've been reporting on and off again for probably a year now. Zach Krueger's Weapons. Stars Julia Garner, Josh Brolin. I think Benedict Wong was in there. A few other people.

So, of course, the follow-up to Barbarian, what did you guys think? It's not like, it's the follow-up, but it's not like in the same universe as Barbarian, right? Or is it like, it's not a sequel or anything? No, it's not a sequel, but there's a rumor that it's in the same universe, but there's no connection. Okay. Huh, okay. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, I almost don't want to.

watch any more previews for this one because it looks pretty fucking cool man I like it a lot now this is my genre of horror like weird creepy shit I like that like this looks fun creepy kids right yeah kids because our own kids could turn on us

philippina yeah like I'm gonna read the poster last night at 2 17 a.m. every child from Mrs. Gandhi's class woke up got out of bed went downstairs open the front door and walked into the dark and they never came back. Hmm, that's all, that's all we need to know going in. No more trailers for me.

I think the kids will come back, but they'll come back and be used as weapons. Well, that makes sense. Unless he pulls a bait and switch, you know, and there's a twist. Is it, are they government, because they look like they get, like, hypnotized and go out there, right? Ah, okay. Are they like, Stephen King's the Institute? zombie-fied? Is it government control? Is it

could very well? Aliens. Could also be supernatural. Yeah? Because it does look like some of the kids when they're running they got their hands out like they're holding hands with something. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, I saw them with the hands out and I

thought it was super creepy and I liked it a lot like the visual because it's kind of chilling. But yeah, it does kind of look like they're holding hands with somebody. That makes sense. And I really like Julia Gardner. She needs a win after Wolfman in an apartment 7-9. Yeah. Agreed.

I know. Agreed. And Josh Brolin is actually not the original person cast in the movie. The original person was Pedro Pascal. But, of course, he got the Fantastic Four gig. Couldn't do this movie. Well. I'm not mad at it.

I love Josh Grohl. Not bad casting at all. He's great. pretty much everything I've seen in so. Yeah, so when AJ and I went to see drop in the in the theater a couple of weeks ago

there was a weird little like 30 second trailer and it was just these kids out there running like you were saying Brian with their arms out and all it said it didn't even there was no voice over it just had the words what happened to the children of and then like

the name of the town and I'm like holy fuck that looks creepy and so now that I've seen the whole trailer now I know what movie that was for. So that's a pretty cool little marketing thing. Maybe not as original as the smile, the original smile marketing. Yeah, that's pretty great. At the baseball games, but yeah, I'm all in on this one. This looks fucking amazing. Yeah, one of my favorite genres too, Philip. From what I've seen with Barbarian and what I've seen from the trailer, I think this one's not going to be a mess. And it makes me a little bit more

confident that he's doing the new Resident Evil movie. somebody's got to do it right I hope so that's I mean video game stuff is hard it seems like it would be easy to do a badass Resident Evil movie I mean I didn't even I didn't hate the Milojovich ones but I don't know awesome

well it was nice looking at Milojovich right well that's true all right weapons hits theaters August 8th which originally was supposed to come out, I think January, February next year. So they have a lot of confidence in this one. Oh, okay. I think we're all in. Yeah, for sure.

And that is it. Oh, shit, that's my turn, huh? All right. That's your cue, huh? On to some listener feedback. This week we shone the podcast spotlight on Bring Me the Axe Horror Podcast. Bring Me the Axe is a research-heavy horror movie podcast hosted by brothers Brian and Dave White. Hey, good name.

Yeah. Focusing on cult, camp, and hidden gyms. They delve into the history themes and cultural impact of various horror films. Huh. Sounds interesting. At first of the first of you said, Bring Me the X. And I'm like, why do you want your X back? That sounds like a good horror movie.

Yeah, that's true. Molly. All right. In regards to seven, Paul McAlfertie. I don't know why it's three different words, but it is. What a film, he says.

Oh, seven? Yeah. Agreed. Yeah, seven's a good one. In regards to, another simple favor Nicole Faith Fever says this is not horror

thank you for that input we on Prime now which one is that is another simple favor it's the sequel to Simple Favor with Anna Kendrick and Deadpool's wife right yeah yeah yeah we

on the social media pages we post stuff other than horror we post sci-fi mystery, thrillers, this falls under whodot thrillers, so. Hey, we're a movie podcast. We just specialize in horror. Yeah, there you go.

And Nicole, I've seen your comments on a few other things. Have some fun. A little negative. There's a comment for you. You have to come on the show. Come on, Nicole. You picked the movies.

We'll have some fun. We'll have some fun. And then we know it's going to be real horror, right? I promise. Oh, we'll have a last. She can come on after Dave Bart up picks his movies. That's right.

If David ever picks his movies, David Barta, we're talking to you. Speaking of David Barta, he's the next one on the... Ah, there you go. Drumdum's review of Until Dawn. He says,

nice review, but very disappointing. I guess I'll skip the theater for this one. Oh, was that a spoiler? Not necessarily. Everybody's going to have their own opinion. Yeah.

In regards to Freaky Tales, Ummer Tal says crazy movie It gets crazy Yeah I'm gonna check it out It's uh I'll I'll look for it Brian Yeah Okay

Mouths of Madness says thank you for sharing Thank you anytime You're welcome yeah And that's it for feedback this week Our intro and logos come from Steve Carlton From The Geeks So be on the lookout for more great stuff from him and our original skull artwork comes from Natsulani.

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Let's go. And Lance, I also think we never did Heather Powell's. Oh, shit. Okay. Wow. It's on the list. Better go on top of that. Sorry, Heather.

We'll get it. I'm messaging her right now. Heather picks a movie is easy. Oh, yeah. All right. On to our featured attractions. Video game edition. It's not always a good.

thing, but we'll see how that works. Chicken jockey. We'll start with Stay Alive from 2006. Stay alive, stay alive. I don't even remember this movie coming out. Oh, yeah, well, a group of friends

decide to play a killer video game based on the legend of the Countess of Blood, Elizabeth Bathory. Is that a thing? I guess so. Director... What in the hell are you doing? Sorry.

My fucking creepy AI phone starts talking to me. Uh-oh. All right. A group of friends decide to play a killer video game based on the legend of Countess of Blood, Elizabeth Bathory. I think I would have rather seen one based on the legend of Zelda. director is William Brent Bell also known for orphan

first kill and the devil inside huh okay there actually is another little trash TV well I guess it's not trash TV it's some series that's going on right it's called a perfect family I think something like that oh yeah AJ saw that it looks a lot like orphan orphan yeah yeah

I google it they said well yeah this orphan the movie it said was made before this actually happened. So it's kind of weird. Oh. It was like almost the exact same story. Girl from Ukraine. Yeah. That's actually a grown-up.

Kind of weird. Oh, wow. See, so I was thinking that Orphan was based on like a real story and this was actually the real story of it. I had to Google it. It said absolutely not. So timing would be wrong. Unless they did the Mandela effect thing.

Oh, that's what it is. We're in a different dimension now. writers are William Brent Bell with Matthew Peterman Countess Elizabeth Bathory did actually exist We'll do that However, for the perspective of the film Her story takes place in New Orleans Whereas historically she was located in Hungary

Which makes more sense You know New Orleans, Hungary It was Disney's only slasher film I didn't realize it was a Disney movie I didn't either I think it was I think Disney owns the studio Yeah I don't

That's stretching it Disney owns everything at this point I mean Just about All right Lance you want to start us off on stay alive Sure yeah I've never seen this one either I thought it might be kind of neat at first You know it's kind of a cool concept right

It's, you know, like this older, you know, game. It's not like an old text game, like, what was it called, the Oregon Trail? You guys remember that one? Oh, yeah. You died of dysentery. Do you drink the water, or do you keep walking, you know? It wasn't that bad. It was kind of at that time when there were some creepy stuff starting to go on with games.

Like, I think you got, wasn't this around the time, you started getting, like, the original horror video games, like, where they were first-person shooter and stuff like that? Well, this is 2006, so, I mean, that was, they would have had, like, the PS2 and stuff out by then. It just looked more dated. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So, one thing I want to know about this movie is, you say it was Disney. Was it fucking rated G? Because I didn't see a single on-screen kill.

I blink and miss something Now there was one where it showed Like the top part where they were being Slashed or something and you saw some blood dripping And that was like about it But like every kill on this movie was off screen I think the characters were For the most part pretty hateable

You know you even had old Jimmy Simpson in there A very young Jimmy Simpson You know and he's out there It's kind of neat effects I guess I like him man Got it and the carriage was coming forward on the street. But man, it was dumb.

Speaking of the last episode of Black Mirror, he plays a giant part in that, and he's great. That's right. That's right. All right, let's talk about Black Mirror. I've said enough about this movie.

There's not a whole lot to say. I mean, this is tame to the standards of fucking wind in the willows or something. I mean, this is like fucking baby shark level of horror. This is terrible. The fuck is wind in the willows.

It was like an old froggy, froggy and little froggy and alligator. Frog and toad. Frog and toad, that's what it was. Yeah, frog and toad. Phillips would be. You're old enough to remember that. Brian, what do you think? For the budget and for the actors they had in it and for the time it came out,

I didn't hate it. Uh-oh. I thought it was. I thought it was that... Night Swam. I will 100% watches 100 times over the night swim. Yeah.

Yeah. Stop it. Stop it. Brian. Are you putting Night Swim up against Stay Alive, legitimately? Dude. We'll get the scores eventually.

Did you fall down or something? They've got some people in this movie that Milo dude, I mean, he's only in it for 10 minutes. Yeah, right. That's the dude that played Rocky's son, right? Yeah. Yeah, Adam Goldberg. Adam Goldberg.

Adam Goldberg is great. You guys are talking about Milo, Ventim's middle of the other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, hey, Rocky son, hey. The dude from heroes. I like him. Yeah. That was not him in Rocky's.

Save the cheerleader. In Rocky. He was not saying on Rocky's son. He was. trying not to be Rocky's son. Hey, get out of my way. I'm Rocky's shot. You seat me first.

I'm not going to wait in line to get into this nightclub, hey. That would have been a great character. I'm looking at the cast. It looks like you would have recognized the cast if you would have been watching early to mid-2000s, CW or the WB. Of course. Like the Hills or the OC.

Oh yeah, that one Who's that one chick that was in it? Bush, something Bush. Sophia Bush. She is super fucking hot. Is that the blonde one? No, no, no.

She's the the goth-looking chick. Oh, yeah. October. Yeah. October. My parents named me October, so I have to be goth. I don't know who the blonde chick was,

but she was totally. totally trying to steal that girl's man the whole time. And who doesn't like Frankie Munoz? Yeah. Now he's a race car driver. Don't shake your head at Frankie

Miser. The effects weren't great. Yeah, the effects weren't great, but it kind of took me back to that time of gaming with my friends. Yeah, I think I'll stick with the Oregon Trail. Well, they do have a movie based on that.

Do they? That's a western, horror western that has nothing to do with the game. Yeah, the effects are not great. The movie is very dated with the music and the clothes. Yeah.

I don't care what you say. I thought, I like Jimmy Simpson in this. I thought he was the comedy relief. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, while he was in it, sure. I kind of feel like, I agree with you about the kills, Lance. they weren't shown, but I kind of feel like there's possibly a

different version of this movie because it kind of feels like it was edited at times. It did. Yeah, like really choppy editing, right? Like they tried to appeal to like a younger demographic or something like that, so they cut some scenes out.

Yeah, maybe there's an unrated version. I don't even think it clicked for me that all the scenes, or all the kill scenes were off screen. It was brutally obvious to me. man. It was pretty hands down best best kill scene I agree with you

Lance was Jimmy Simpson yeah where he just threw himself on the ground and rolled and then CGI horse and carriage ran them over stop drop and roll I thought but I did think the

what was her name October no the the evil demonic spirit countess whatever. Oh, yeah. I thought she kind of at the end,

there's a scene when they show her reflection and she makes that scared face that she's seen. I thought she looked kind of creepy, and I thought the makeup was pretty good on her. Okay. Yeah. So there should have definitely been more of that throughout the movie instead of the CGI effects, but...

Yeah. CGR carriage. I just, I want to see. outtakes of him just like rolling on the ground they're out there somewhere you want to make it in Hollywood kid didn't quite line up for me characters running him over and him rolling over

that's it all right really a whole lot to say about yeah you know what I had a lot more fun with it than I thought I was going to good I'm glad you did yeah I mean I don't know how this went completely under the radar because it's got like a lot lot of people in it and like I don't remember it at all.

But uh, but yeah, man, I had, I had a pretty good time with it. Obviously the, the, the CGI was not great. It's 2006. Um, there were some good CGI though out in 2006. Yeah, that's true. I mean, fuck, Jurassic Park in the 90s, you know? Yeah. Yeah, but that didn't, this had a budget of 20 million. Well, it sounds like a lot. They were sort of, They were sort of able to hide a lot of that by just making it a video game thing. And so that it kind of worked. It does have some good setup to some scenes,

like that opening scene with Milo Balwa. Yeah. How he walks in, he walks in on his friends. The first time he walks in on, they're fucking. And then he gets woken out of his sleep and then goes and walks in. And then the movie sets you up thinking this movie's going to be brutal by the way they show their dead bodies being strung up with chains and

blood everywhere. That one was brutal. And then he gets hung by something we couldn't see by the chandelier. So it does kind of set you up for something that it doesn't deliver. That's why I kind of think maybe this movie

got heavily edited. I think you may have a point. That makes sense. Yeah. I don't know if it's worth like a whole director's cut for it but I mean that would be pretty cool if uh you know they had something a little bit more graphic going on because that's really a lot of what it was missing i mean i it was the story was pretty straightforward too i sort of expected there to be a twist at the

end um like i i wanted the blonde chick to be uh like some sort of uh uh, minion for the countess or something. She should have been the countess. Yeah, or the countess. That would have been interesting. I thought that was going to happen for sure.

And it didn't. She was just like this normal. I, you know, and like, she was such a random character. I know. Like,

she came in out of nowhere. She was a friend of a friend of a friend. Right. Nobody knew who the fuck she was. She just shows up and she's, you know, taking pictures. And she's just straight up,

stealing Sophia Bush's man, which is not going to happen, number one. Right? Well, you know, why not have your bush you need it too? Yeah. And and like, I,

it's very obvious they're flirting right in front of her and she doesn't do anything about it. And then like as soon as she's dead, they're holding hands and kissing. They're fucking. I'm like, damn, bro. Take a second.

Yeah. Wow. Your girlfriend just got fucking brutally murdered. Yeah, they didn't, they didn't mourn that very long, did they? But the story, the story was pretty good. It kept me interested the whole time. I didn't hate it. Hmm.

Okay. All right. Let's do scores. Lance, what do you think? All right. It's a one. Oh, wow. Wow.

It is fucking horrible. I just want to see. horror movie with some kills in it, not off-screen bullshit. Come on. Yeah, it was pretty entry-level horror, I think. What kills were in Night Swim? I don't remember.

Brian, what do you think? I'm a night swim this movie. This movie's a six and a half. It had enough in it to keep me interested throughout the movie. Fair enough, yeah. Fair Sure enough. I'm in the line, I know, buddy. Like I said, it just had enough nostalgia with the friends getting together, gaming and stuff like that.

Yeah. To spark something in me. All right. And just to watch a lot of these characters when they're very young, you know, like they pop up and you're like, hey, wait a minute, that's so-and-so. That's that guy. Yeah. Oh, this is movies full of, there's that guy. Yeah.

Sure. Even the detective. Oh, yeah. have been everything. The dude from the wire. Oh. Yeah. I think he's a...

What else is he in Reacher or some shit? A lot. And he always plays a detective. He's always really put out. He's good. He always plays a detective that you think is dirty, but is not. Yeah. Yeah, I guess.

Sure. Um, I, I'm going to give this one a six. I had a pretty good time with it. Yeah, it was, it was, it was a solid movie. Like, I'm really surprised that it got like, no traction. I can't believe I don't remember it at all. Because it fits in perfectly with the time period. Yep.

That's true. 2006. Mm-hmm. God damn, that was almost 20 fucking years ago. Wow. Oh, I was in Afghanistan. That's a problem. Yeah.

That's right. Well, you probably, you probably could have bought like a fucking movie theater version of it. Oh, I know. Yeah, no, yeah. The shaky camera. I watched, oh, this one, the next one, until dawn, which is our next movie. I watched it on a pirated copy, and it was like, dude, they must have been recording this sucker out and a stick some in India or something. There was like bugs flying around in front of the camera.

They could add to it. That could actually add to it. It kind of did. All right. I was like, wait, is that supposed to be there? All right. So until dawn from 2025, a group of friends trapped in a time loop

where mysterious foes chase and kill them in gruesome ways must survive until dawn to escape it. You see what they did there, the name of the movie? Yeah. Director is David F. Sambor. also known for Lights Out and Shazam. Writers are Blair Butler

and Gary Doberman. When asked about the game's butterfly effect element and how the movie played into it, director David Sandberg revealed that there was once a version of the movie that had a more explicit translation of this in the film. Though later elected to hide little runes throughout the film

to allude to this theme. He explained there was definitely a version that with the night starting over each time, leading to different choices which tie in. There's even some hidden little runes throughout the film. I found this ruin that means dawn or new day or something, and it kind of looks like the wings of a butterfly. So we put that in there, and like in the witch's house, there's that shape made out of bones, and the pickaxe, there's a little room.

there's a little ruin. So we definitely tried to tie that in as much as we could. Well, that sounds fucking confusing. I know. That's what I was like. I'm not entirely sure what they're even fucking talking about. Well, I think if you play the video game, I believe that my understanding is like... Oh, that makes sense.

Yeah, when you do something to change a character or something, then when you're reincarnated, you have those changes. Okay. Which they kind of touched on that here with a... Well, we'll get in. to it. Huh. I feel like I need to play.

It sounds cool. Yeah, I feel like I need to play it. I've never played it before. All right, Lance, what do you think about until dawn? And this movie started out. I was kind of like, all right, I like this setup, right?

Well, first you had the one little scene with the missing person in it. You know, you get that, they did, that was just the setup, right? So you kind of know what's going on that she's like, oh, no, not again. I can't go through this again. You're like, okay, we kind of see where it's going. And this is one that I kind of wish I hadn't seen the trailer,

although I guess everyone but me in the world, but us maybe has played the game, so they kind of knew what to expect. But I like the setup. I was getting, so when they were in the car and then they got up to the gas station, which you see in all the horror movies, all the slasher movies, right?

Yeah. And the creepy guy in the gas station, Peter Storm Air, love him. Brian, did you hear the binge cast episode where they interviewed him. What? I can't remember. That guy's cool.

Yeah, dude is fucking cool, man. He was like, hey, well, that's too bad you're not here. We all go drinking after the interview, you know? You imagine going out drinking with Peter Stormair? That sounds amazing. Oh, fuck, yeah. Absolutely.

So, yeah, I like that setup. And then, like, when they got into that section with the rainfall, I was really starting to get a, cabin in the woods vibe you know like a controlled environment that they're going into and i'm a sucker for that for that kind of setup and i'm also a sucker for the time loop and time jump and you know i you guys you guys know i loved the movies of which we do not speak with tim because he's not a fan of tree and i thought she was great in those movies and there's there's a third one coming out right the

what's it called Happy Death Day to us or something like that that's being written sure yeah so it had a lot of the elements

I liked and I did like the setup so this movie delivered a hundred percent on all the stuff the last one didn't and that was on screen kills

and there were some phenomenal ones and we don't I don't know if we want to go into any detail before spoilers but and then there was like that one scene

with the water where it was kind of like Abigail throwback if you know what I'm talking about. So, you know, so when they were drinking the water, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. I fucking dug this movie, man.

I did not like the first one. Usually video game movies, I'm not a huge fan. Who was it? Oh, I love The Last of Us on Max. That's done super well. And I thought there was, wasn't there another video game movie we covered that was actually really, really good? I'm trying to...

A Minecraft movie. Most of them are duds. What's that? A Minecraft movie. Haven't seen it yet, man. We all talked about it, except you. Except me. I'm the odd man out.

I'll check it out. Hey, that movie's... Say what you want about it, but it's about getting close to a billion dollars. Well, that's good, man. So we'll probably get out 17 more. But, no, I really dug this movie. I fucking love the kill scenes.

I like the characters. the chicks were hot. You know, they were kind of belief. I thought they were somewhat believable for younger people, but that's probably how I would have acted in that situation. I thought it was just the right amount of time for them to figure out what was going on. It didn't seem, because a lot of the time you see these movies and they're like, instantly,

there's a super genius in the group that goes, this is exactly what's happening, you know? And I was like, they didn't go there. They actually had a little development. And then I love the part when it kind of reset and they were all in different areas. And then they kind of snapped out of it. I enjoyed it. This was definitely what I needed

after sitting through that stay alive shit. I can't believe you gave it a one. I can. Brian, what do you think? I really had a lot of fun with this one. I think I came in with the advantage of not playing the game

so I didn't have certain expectations of, oh, this was in the game, so this needs to be in the movie, so I didn't have none of that coming in. I thought for the most part the cast was pretty likable. I didn't hate anyone like Lance

hated the entire cast to stay alive. Well, there were some of them that were pretty recognizable. Like, I don't know who they are, but they've been in stuff. The one girl that signs the book, we reviewed her and she was the main actress in the new Hellraiser. Her, the newest Hellraiser. Oh,

right. Oh, okay. And one of the guys I've seen him before. Yeah, a lot of these actors. and actresses and shows my daughter's my daughter has seen so she was like oh that guy's from this show

Disney or CW Netflix Ah okay Disney I tell you said that I was I was worried that the kills were going to be watered down

but I thought they were pretty fucking gory and violent yeah some of them unexpected, Lance, you alluded to one with the water that I didn't expect at all. I didn't either, but it was still pretty great. Yeah, every time. I think they did an excellent job of making this feel like it was a video game adaption. Absolutely.

I felt like I was in a video game. With the time loop and the resetting of things, I do have a few issues. And we'll talk about that in spoilers. And I do wish we got more of Peter Stormere than we did in the movie. But I kind of wonder, from what I understand, he's a voice in the game. Oh, okay. So I don't know. Maybe that's his role in the game, what was in the movie.

Makes sense, yeah. But it's Peter Stormere. I mean, you always want more of that guy. Yeah, he chews up scenery. Kind of like Keanu Reeves or Nicholas Cage, right? He killed him with a fucking pencil. Fucking pencil. Who does that?

But yeah, super fun. Super fun. Kurt kills. I thought the story moved along real, had a great pace to it. I don't think there was any dull moments throughout the movie for me. I almost wanted more I was wait a minute you skipped over a bunch of shit

but yeah maybe we'll get more if it does well lots of fun though yeah I I kind of feel the same way like I had low expectations walking into this I did too man

lowest expected it to suck kind of drafted it honestly and even watching a shitty copy I do this movie was pretty good like they were they were pretty on top of it uh i think the effects were great they had some really good kills uh some of the monsters were really cool looking um i like the direction that they went the storyline was cool uh i don't really have a whole lot of complaints

about it to be honest like that's except there was like a moment where they skipped from man i don't know how much I can talk about, but let's just say they did a time skip, right? Yeah, they did like a time jump, right? Because, so we obviously know it's a repetitive thing, right? Well, they skip a bunch of nights, and then suddenly they're at the end of it. Although, you know, had they done all the nights, they would have had to make it as, yeah, they would have had to make it like a TV series, which might actually be a cool idea.

Well, I mean, they could have did a montage. Yeah, or something. Ah, yes, montage. There was some extra kills in there. That'd be cool. I don't know if you guys remember when that new Mortal Kombat movie came out. Yeah. The R-rated trailer had a montage at the very end of the kills.

Okay. Throw a quick little montage of the kills in this movie. Yeah. That actually would have knocked it way up. That's a great idea. But yeah, man, I really enjoyed it a whole lot more than I expected to. Yeah. All right.

We all agree on that, right? Yep. Yeah. I mean, it's not a 10, but, you know. Right. It was a solid movie. Scores, Lance, what do you think? Really good year for movies so far.

I'm just very interested to see if it keeps up this pace, but I can't believe I'm saying this. I'm giving it a fucking 8 on 10. I've had so much fun with the kills. And just, I needed that gore after, well, let's stop talking. about that one anymore. Yeah, eight on ten, Brian. Brian, what do you think? I want to give it an eight, but right now I'm going to give it a seven and a half.

Lots of fun. And it makes me want to play the game. Dude, verbatim exactly what you just said. I was thinking the exact same. Like, I kind of want to give it an eight, but right now I'm going to have to give it a seven and a half. It's fair. I'm definitely going to watch it again.

again when it actually comes out of streaming or whatever. Oh, yeah. So I can watch a decent version of it. I tried to get a cold of the copy of the game because I wanted to, before we recorded, wanted to make the comparisons, but I didn't in time. So hopefully maybe next week I can tell you what I thought of the game. Okay. What platform did it come out on?

PlayStation. PlayStation. Okay. I can't believe that I can't play it. I don't find it off PC and make it work. That's Sony, right? PlayStation is Sony? Yeah. Brian? Yeah.

Oh, you wouldn't know, Phil. You're the gamer. Yeah. Used to be a long time ago. All right. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Video game logic, Brian. Right? One thing I enjoyed the time loop aspect because that's what made it feel like a video game. Because when you die in the game,

you have to start all over. But one thing I thought was really fucking cool was every time they started over, they retained some of the injuries they had when they died. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, that's the butterfly thing. Yeah, and after day by day was going by,

they just looked kind of worse and worse as it was going. Yeah, I love that aspect. I thought that was, that added a lot to it. You know, there were some stakes, right? But I will say we did kind of get a little montage of the monsters at the end. I wish we would have got them throughout the movie instead of that quick little montage. Because, I mean, the ones we did,

The ones we did get were cool. They were really brutal with their kills, but near the end, when we got the little montage of different monsters, I kind of wish that was a little more fleshed out throughout the movie. I can't believe they didn't make this a TV series where each episode was a new night. That would be a great idea, you know?

Maybe they'll do a follow-up with a different group. Maybe they'll pull of what we do in the shadows, you know? in the TV series but with different characters. Because you're right, they did find out like a little bit later in the movie, like what happens if you stay there. And if you've, if you've been there for more than like 13 days, you become like a,

although I guess everybody sort of transforms at a different rate. But then you become this just grotesque looking, Baraka looking monster to throw another video game reference in there. Yeah. That one guy was starting to change when he turned around. He was like, is there something on my back? Oh, yeah. His back.

Yeah. No, you're fine. You're fine. The rec was a douchebag of the group? Yeah, he was kind of a douchebag. Here, you go first. So did you guys, was it just me? Or were you guys kind of surprised when Peter Stormair showed up again?

And he wasn't just in the gas station. That threw me off a little bit. Yeah, I didn't realize he was going to be like the, the big bad. Yeah. I kind of knew from hearing that he was the voice in the game, so I kind of figured he had to play a bigger role than the, being the, what are they called, the Harbinger.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. That makes sense. That makes sense. And we brought it up during our reviews, but drinking the water in this cabin makes you explode. Abigail style, right? Like exploding vampires.

That was in something else I was watching recently too. I can't remember it was. They exploded in front of a pool. Fuck, I can't remember what it was. Is this ring a bell? Was it like an old Peter Jackson movie or something? Like bad taste or? No, it was a newer.

No, it was a newer one. Like this girl jumps in the pool and it's electrocuted and she explodes. Yeah, it was a monkey. Yeah, yeah. I love that scene. That's right. I like we got different variations of it. Like the Asian girl that took a sip of it.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Her stomach started blown up. Took her a little longer and she got like exploded half as much. Right? Although Peter Stormer only took a couple of drops and he exploded all the way. Yeah. And it didn't take long, did it?

But that was kind of convenient for purposes of the story. I just moved the coffee cup over. What was he whistling? Was that music from the video game guys, or do you all know? I don't know. Probably. What were you going to say, Brian? I'm sorry, man.

I like how every night you got like a different level boss monster that you had to go up against. Yeah, that's true. And it kind of seemed like depending on which. way they went through the house kind of was like, okay, you go through this door, you're going to deal with this thing. Like a real video game. Yeah.

Yeah, that guy with the skull mask, you'll stay the hell away from him. He was mean. Oh, yeah. The witch wasn't too intimidating, but those masks in there were creepy as fuck. Yeah. You know?

The witch was just some old chick with a fucking oxygen tank. Find one in any old folks home in America, right? I used to smoke three packs today. I'm just an old witch. And then she like possessed her. I wasn't, I wasn't sure exactly how that worked,

especially since it only lasted for the rest of the night. Yeah, kind of awkward, I guess. It wasn't a perfect film. I'm being generous with the eight, but I think I had a snapback from the prior movie. Oh, yeah, I'm not. that many times. We've watched something that's really awful and then the next movie is like, oh, thank God. To you, Jennifer.

Yeah. Could have watched anything after that. It would have been like a 10, right? Oh, yeah. We're going to have to go back one of these years and do a, is it really that bad episode or something? I think it will be, but I'm willing to do it if you guys are. From what I understand, to Jennifer, I think, has a sequel. I think it has like three or four of them. Somehow.

And I feel bad for shitting all over that guy, but, you know. Not really. That was a boring fucking movie. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it's probably not an eagle. Well, you've got to be able to take some criticism. I mean, that's... Oh, absolutely. It's how you...

I mean, I'm not making movies there, but I would take it as a criticism. I would take the criticism and then find out what I did wrong and kind of grow as a filmmaker. Yeah, learn from it, right? Which I'm sure he has. Yeah.

Any other spoilers you want to talk about or give me kind of a shorter, shorter show tonight. I don't know. Which is cool, because our last one went pretty long, so... I mean, it did, like, I like the, uh, I like the little town.

It gave me kind of a silent hill sort of feel. And it did make, yeah, it did kind of make me want to play the game. I like the end. I like the end scene. It kind of just let you know just because they killed off. They killed Peter Stor-Mayer's character. They,

they lasted through the night. That doesn't mean this can't happen again at this house because of a whole different group of people pull up. That's, That's why the TV show would be a good spinoff from this. True. A whole different group of people for every season. Yeah.

Even just 10 episodes, right? Like 10 nights. Like, each episode is night one, night two, night three. Yeah. I think that'd be perfect. You know? Maybe get more to the butterfly effect thing and actually that changes.

Like, what unbreaks their arm and then they wake up with a broken arm or something? Yeah. And then, I mean, if they have the budget for it, which, you know, if this movie does well, hopefully they can't. How did it do? Has it done okay? Probably. Probably not well. It's still competing with Senators.

Well, Sen. No, in Thunderbolts. Oh, no. No relief. Thunderbolts just came out. Have you heard the reviews on Thunderbolts? Dude, I'm not excited about that movie at all. They're saying it's the reviews are coming in and they're basically.

like not Marvel's back but it's the old Marvel. Really? Yeah, they said a lot of practical effects. Really? A lot of emotion and basically a lot of chemistry

with the cast. That counts for a lot. Wow. Yeah, because I mean, I haven't seen too much on it, but like I was scrolling through the new movies at the theater and I saw Thunderbolts and I was like, oh yeah. yeah that's gonna suck a lot

David David Harper is an underrated actor I'm gonna say it because that dude he's got some range I've seen him play like super dramatic you know kind of melancholy roles and I've seen him play like this one where he's just over the top hilarious

as a Russian captain America oh he plays Red Guardi and you can tell he's just having fun hamming it up right and they said the other review I've seen. It said Florence Pugh as Yelaine is definitely the

standout. Like this is her movie. Okay. And they said the movie from the reviews I've seen what makes the movie good is it's not about progressing to the next thing in Marvel.

It's about this story. There you go. Then you get the then you get the progression with the after credit scene. well and i can't imagine they all would have even agreed to do this movie if it wasn't some sort of like you know god damn it would redemption for uh for black widow you know oh god god it was garbage that bad it wasn't as bad it was not good and then i also heard uh

end credits one of the end credit scene is the longest end credit scene of the MCU. Wow. You have to check it out then. Fantastic 4 maybe? No, I think it's going to set a Avengers Dooms Day. Oh, boy. Here we go.

This could be good, right? This could be moving the right direction. Okay. I mean, hey, they're still making money. They're going to keep pushing them out. Hopefully they just increase in quality, though. I'm going to go opening a bad patch. And I'll see it at the theater.

I'm looking at until Don, it had a budget of $15 million. And within a week, it's gross $20 million. All right. Wow, that barely covers the movie in advertising. But that's not bad off of... Well, because I'm sure everybody was watching centers. Yeah. Because I heard they're re-releasing the 70-millimeter IMAX version.

Okay. I had somebody... Sinners is a significantly better movie. Yeah, pretty epic, big difference. But I had someone I follow that said, this would be a great movie to re-release for Halloween. Yeah. So maybe they're onto something, I don't know.

But it's re-watchable. You know, that's not a bad idea. I don't understand why they don't re-release movies, like maybe a second time during a year. Yeah, that's true. Or at least some just really great horror movies during Halloween. Yeah, like the classics Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween. This would be great for, yeah, Lance, you're right, this would be great for October.

Yeah. We'll see. The theater close to where we live, they show a lot of retro stuff, right? And it's five bucks. So, like, they're doing the Wizard of Oz and then they're doing, What else they have coming up? Happy Gilmore, the first. Like, yeah, fantastic movie.

Yeah. That is a sequel I'm not looking forward to. No? You're not? Come on. It's going to be, they're going to coming to America sequel, the whole thing.

It's going to be, remember this, remember that. Oh, no. You're probably right. Shooter McLeod is going to be out there. Ah, boy. I hope,

I hope it doesn't suck. Do you think Rob Schneider will be in it? You can do it. I hope he is. I haven't seen him in a long time. I heard him and Adam Sandler not. Then he won't be in there. Oh, really?

Oh, Adam Sandler can fuck him over and put his daughter in it. She's like a blues singer. Oh, really? That would be funny. For those who get it, right? All right. She can be that one character. Rob Schneider plays.

She'll pop up and be like, You can do it. Do it. All night long. The hot chick. Totally underrated movie. Oh, yes. Very much so.

What was another one? The animal was good. Deuce Bigelow. Male Jigolo was good. Deuce Bigelow, too, was good, you know? I like all this stuff, man. I can't think of anything he was in that wasn't good. I'm like some of us.

He was a he bitch. That's right. Can you blame him? I mean, you know, not a bad gig. Yeah, and then he just sort of fell off the map, man. I haven't heard anything from him. I know. My daughter saw him in an airport about two or three years ago.

Oh, yeah. Like in Houston or something? He's probably like coach at this point, but who knows? I imagine he's still a pretty recognizable dude. Oh, yeah. He's got a unique one. Kind of like David Spade, right? Yeah.

Just shoot me. All right. I think you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. You know where to find us. Thehorrorreturns got.com. And send us an email to thehorror returns at gmail.com. David Barda, we're talking to you. Heather Powell, we're talking to you.

Whoever else hasn't given us their movies. We're talking to you. We need your picks, please. Now, David, I know you're a little bit. Just the first seven movies you've talked about we've covered. So we may have to double dip some, but we'll think of something, you know. Hey, we'll see what's going. Think of some real obscure favorites of yours.

Yes. That way. It doesn't even have to be horror. Yeah. We've never covered Pulp Fiction, just saying. We haven't. Like we've ever done any Tarantino movie. I don't think.

I don't think me and Nuss even did kill We did. I don't even think me and Ness did kill Bill on action. I think once upon a time in Hollywood is the only movie. Yeah, Reservoir Dogs is good.

It has some horror elements. No, that's getting a secret. Really? No. No, once upon a time in Hollywood. Tarantino? I think you might have heard something. He's writing it, I think.

I could be wrong about the director but I think Darren Aronofsky's directing. Oh. That's going to be about Brad Pitt's character. That would be good. The Darren Aronovsky thing concerns me slightly. No, I love you. He did mother.

I know. He's a weird motherfucker. Pie was good. Pie was weird. He's all in black and white, but it was good. Noah wasn't great for me. But maybe if I knew more about the Bible, I would like to do.

Most of that shit's, not in the Bible. It's like a book of the rock monsters. Yeah, with the rock monsters in the yeah, and the watcher's weird shit. Yeah. What was the, what was my record for a dream? David Fincher. Okay, that

makes more sense. I'm even more, I'm even more interested in that. Yeah, written by Tarantino, directed by David Fincher, will focus on Brad Pitt's character. I don't see how you can go wrong. I love Brad Pitt.

He's teaming back up after seven with Ventures. So, you know, maybe the bad guy will be, what's his name? The dude that got in all the trouble for the sacks that was in seven. Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey. I think he's making a comeback. Probably. No pun intended.

All right. So, oh, I lost my notes. What are we doing next week? Cage, rage, right? Ah, yes. That means we're going to have Bade from Downunda, and we're going to do what two movies? I know the surfer.

The surfer and sympathy for the devil. Okay. Not being as good as I was hoping, but maybe on the watch it'll be better. Well, it's going to force me at least to watch it, because I think I started it and then I had to go do something, and I never picked it back up. But I did want to watch it, and the surfer looks good. All right.

I hope. well so until the whore returns again brian good night