The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #47: Pet (2016) & Rupture (2016) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: November 14, 2021

For a different type of show, we check out 2 new movies - Pet and Rupture. Thanks for listening!

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fantasize about fear and glorify gore, welcome home. This is the podcast that proves the horror never ends. each episode we usually seek out and review a brand new horror movie and then go back and find a classic that has similar themes and we try to look at the similarities and differences we kind of like to show how our perceptions of fear

kind of remain the same from generation to generation but things change based on the climate of the times we're going to do it a little bit differently this week there was a couple of more independent films that have come out over the last few months that we've heard some, enough things about, I think, and would you guys say safe to say kind of both of these piqued our interest a little bit? Absolutely.

Yeah. All right. So the two films tonight aren't really related together as we normally do, but they're both films that have come out maybe in the last, I think they both come out in the last four or six months on the festival circuit and very recently out on demand to watch. we are going to include spoilers for both films so it's going to be a little different this time guys we're going to let you know both times

that we're getting into spoilers for each movie so you can kind of turn us off at that point now since we're doing two movies back to back and you may not want to hear the spoilers for either one of them because they are relatively new you might want to just kind of fast forward 10 minutes or so and we'll give you plenty of warning when we come back with a new review

So you'll talk a little bit before we go into the review So you guys will know where you're at at that point Of course we always assume you guys have seen the classic films So we always spoil them But we shall not be covering any classic films tonight The other thing that we may do from time to time Is use a few four-letter words This is a horror podcast

And horror movies do tend to be R-rated And you can pretty much expect us to be two I'm Lance and with me as always are my co-host Brian and Phillip how's it going guys it's going good what's crack of lacking folks well we always start if you guys have heard our show before you know this already but if this is your first time to listen we picked up a lot of new listeners over the last three or four weeks we're loving it guys all over the world

we got new listeners in great britain looks like we've picked up a few A few more in other parts of Europe as well. And a new Canadian listener and at least three new listeners in the U.S. So we really, that's why we're here, guys. We really appreciate it. And the word of mouth seems to be working. So thank you, thank you, thank you. So again, if you've heard the show before you know this,

and if you haven't, you're going to find out. But we start with a little thing we like to refer to as Cool of the Week. Brian, what's your Cool of the Week, man? Oh, my, the coolest thing of the week was my youngest daughter just haven't had her birthday. So I want to say happy birthday to her. Love you. She just turned seven. And, yeah, we did a little shindig.

It was cool. But as far as watching stuff, I didn't really watch anything new. I did a couple of rewatches, the original Robocop movies. Okay. So I went through those. They still, for me, they still, I mean, the, probably the third one doesn't hold up as much, but, you know, they're kind of hit it like a nostalgia factor with me because I was really into Robocop when I was younger. That's fair. I remember the first and the second one being really good. And I also checked out the remake. I really enjoy the remake for the simple fact they didn't try to redo what the original, what Verhoeven did with the original one.

Yeah, I didn't have a problem with it. So, yeah, that's pretty much all I did. I didn't really check out that much. Oh, man, I actually rewatched with my wife, who watched Split. Because it came out on DVD this week. Yeah, and man, that's, it's a really kick-ass movie, man. It's got some really just memorable, quotable. parts and I feel like it's it's kind of going to be a cult classic in the near future

um yeah anyway I thought that was pretty cool uh I also am trying to catch up on Bates Motel um I sort of have the same issues with it that I had you know during well like while I was watching the whole thing is that there's just too much extra city shit going on right like I feel like it should have been more of an intellectual, you know, delve into, you know, what Norman is thinking instead of what it is where there's all this drama that happens every day for no reason. More like a Hannibal instead of gossip girls. Okay. That's quite a difference.

Well, obviously an exaggeration, but you get the idea. Because I think it would have been cool as a Hannibal-type series. But would they have been able to go on for five seasons? Probably not. Right. I don't know, man. So this is the final season, right? I think so.

Yeah, it's supposed to be the final episode coming up. Ah, yeah. And didn't you get some feedback on that from Jay or something? Yeah, Jay wanted to recap the final season with this, huh? Yeah, I think so. And you guys are on your own on this one because I think I've seen, I saw literally the first episode, and it was so different from the film that I kind of got frustrated. I'm like, okay, this is a psycho show and they're using cell phones.

I can't get into this, you know? Well, it's modern psycho. That's a different thing. I know, I know. Well, you got some catching up to do if we want to do a recap. I think I might listen on that one, but sound like Jay's kept up with him. Maybe he'll want to come on and help you guys out with that. I'll talk about it if y'all are down.

I think I can catch up. All right. Maybe a couple of weeks out. I know we got pretty heavy schedules the next two or three weeks here. Yeah. I think we got to open in next month. Cool. All right. Well, my not so cool of the week, started out a lot better than it ended up. And I'm always talking about how I think that network TV shows just go too long, like with going the 22 to 25 episodes per season.

But this particular show was, just from the title of it alone, I think it was custom made to go 24 episodes. and that was the classic Jack Bauer 24. And so you've got the new one now, 24 Legacy. And it's only 12 episodes. And I have not, in all fairness, I have not seen the finale, even though it's come out. I'll probably watch that the next day or two. But man, by the time I got to like episodes 10 and 11,

I'm like, they are trying to cram way too much shit into two hours worth of time here. And that's what I always liked. about the original when it actually went 24 episodes. It was like they had all these twist and turns, but they made sense because they kind of spaced them out. Yeah, these last two episodes, man, have just really disappointed me. So do they still do the same thing, like where they do, like, one hour of time is one

episode? Even though he doesn't ever actually use the bathroom or anything? Yeah, exactly. That's it. Yep. And like he'll start driving on one side of town. and he'll say, oh, man, we got to get over to the other side of town, and then there's a commercial break and they're there.

Well, he drives during the commercial break. Still 24 hours. Sure, sure. 18 miles? Yeah, okay. Yeah, but I mean, I can, I'm okay with all that part of it. It's just like, I don't know. It just seems like they're trying to cram way too much in, you know,

in each episode to try to get it all wrapped up in time. Maybe they'll surprise me. Do they still have like a little timer at the bottom or anything? They do. They do. They do. And they have the split screens and all that. So it started out. I thought that was super cool. Yeah, it started out great. Like the first six or eight episodes I was really into it. Couldn't wait for the next one. But I don't know. We'll see. Maybe they'll surprise me. I guess my cool of the week is my monthly or so Star Trek update as I'm rewatching all the next generation.

There's a couple of really good episodes that I saw recently ship in a bottle, which is the one where, Data likes to go into the holodeck and pretend like he's Sherlock Holmes. Yeah, the Moriarty program ends up basically getting its own I guess mental capacity or whatever. He starts actually

thinking. And that's kind of neat how they ended that one. And then another really good one I've seen recently was called Face of the Enemy. And this is the one where Dan O'Troy actually infiltrates a Romulan ship and dresses up as a Romulan.

and it's a pretty deep episode. There's a lot going on. So, yeah, that's six season. That's good stuff. Look, my mom is a super trekkie, and I'm more of a Star Wars kind of guy. Of course, she also went to UT, and I went to A&M. But mentioning my mom, she told me about a sci-fi show that's on Netflix. I'm adding a little extra in here.

It's called Wynonna Earp. never heard of it i haven't i haven't seen it have you guys i've heard of it i've heard it's a really good show yeah she said she binge watch the whole thing in like a day so yeah it sounds like it's a pretty good deal is it a western like a sci-fi western or something i don't know i'm always a little leery of anything that's on the sci-fi channel uh but man if she tells me it's good it's probably pretty pretty pretty decent now. It's probably also stupid, cheesy fun, because that's kind of thing that she likes.

But I'm down with that. I can watch it. I'll be down. All right. So it was what I'm looking at the IMDB page. It looks like it was originally a sci-fi channel. They've been some good stuff lately, man. Yeah, they have. They've got a few good series that are out.

Yeah, I've been getting a lot of recommendations for shows from sci-fi. Really? Yeah. Maybe they're turning. it around. Maybe they are. No more Shark Nato.

They got another one. Oh, man. Well, our mascot is back and barking in the background. I hope that's not too loud. You guys ready to move on to some news? Okay, going to do a little update from our last

movie that we reviewed the Fate and the Furious was breaking global records. Oh, I heard that. Yeah, within the two three-day period of the weekend, it made over $532 million. Whoa. Hmm.

How much, like, what is the next best thing? I mean, it broke it by a lot, right? Yeah, apparently only a little over $100 million was here in the United States. So apparently overseas, they love their Fast and Furious movies. Damn. And new. and news about the rock and Vin Diesel Beef is now over.

Oh, yeah? They have both signed on to do the next installment, so. Yay! Kind of puts my rumor to bed. No, no WWE Smackdown, huh?

Yeah. Maybe next year. Maybe next year. Okay. My Blu-ray pick of this episode, will be Slither, and I believe it's being released by Scream Factory

Special Edition. James Gunn. Directed. Yep, directed by James Gunn. And this will be out July 25th. So I believe they're taking pre-orders right now on the website. Okay. Our first headline will be

Jessica Lang may return to American Horror Story. Not a big surprise. Yeah. Um, let's see. Um, we were talking about this actress, uh, earlier, uh, Walking Dead, uh, actors and actresses, uh, Polly, Pollyanna McIntyre, Stephen Og and Caitlin Naken have been promoted to the main cast of the walking dead.

All right. Oh. Oh. I don't know there was a, a main cast and a subcast, but okay. Yeah. So, uh, we're going to get, uh, I believe Caitlin Naken is the, the young girl that's always with Carl. Oh,

okay, I got you. And Stephen Og is the guy that he shows up with the saviors to the hilltop. Okay, I, he's like, the one with the mustache? Yeah. And the receding hairline?

I know who you're talking about. Okay, I like him. I like him. I like him better than the leader of the hilltop. And Pollyanna. And Pollyanna McIntosh is, I guess we gave them the name of the dumpster people, the trash dump people or whatever. Something like that.

Yeah, I hear they're coming back, man, but I still don't understand them. It doesn't make any sense. So with them being, with them being promoted to the main cast, most like we're going to see a whole lot of them next season. Okay. I can live with that. Yeah. I had no problem with any.

I mean, except for the, girl that hangs out with Carl, you know, I, you know, whatever. Right. Yeah. Take her or leave her, huh? Yeah, like if she died, it wouldn't be the end of the world. Yeah, but I will say Stephen Og, who, I forget his name on there. He's, he's pretty entertaining.

Simon or something like that. Simon. Simon, I think, is it Simon? Yeah, yeah, I think he's kind of, he's entertaining. Right. He is. Well, so, um, that'll be something. Up up from here, right? Right. Yeah, that'll be something.

something to check out next year or next season. And very, very short news week, because this is our last news item. We reported last week that T&T dropped, let the right one in the TV series. Well, now they're having rights issues with Tales from the Crypt, and Tales from the Crip has been delayed. Oh, no. So their little horror block thing they were trying to put on T&T is not looking so good right now. Wow. What a surprise.

Yeah. And, you know, I'm, I was kind of looking forward to Tales from the Crip. The little teaser trailer looked very interesting, creepy. And, you know, I loved the, the original show growing up. Yeah, me too, man. Mm-hmm. So hopefully it's, it's just a simple, you know, thing that they can fix. hopefully I'd love to see that one back on TV but it seems like all the shows that they were planning for it because it was like supposed to be like a two three hour block from what I was told right a lot of these shows are not happening for different reasons so hopefully they can pull it

together fucking up yeah and that's okay I can live without it I think I wasn't really excited about it to be honest and that is all that the news we have for this week. All right. Well, that means it's time to take a little trip, boys. So, as... As with every show, it's time to take a little trip down to the trailer park. Brian, what's our first new trailer to talk about this week?

First one we're going to talk about is Dark Signal, starring C-Wan Morris, Gareth, David Lloyd, Joanna. Oh, my gosh. I'm not even going to attempt this last name. and Duncan Powell directed by Edward Evers Swindell What did you guys think about dark signal

It's interesting It almost looks like a White noise You remember that one? I do remember that. Michael Keaton Yeah It's got a little bit of that kind of vibe going

Okay. Yeah, I kind of have to reserve judgment because it looks kind of generic horror movie-ish. Yeah, it does look a little generic, doesn't it? I was a little confused because it looked like part of the movie was a slasher movie. Mm-hmm. Yeah, for a second. Yeah. They didn't quite give you enough information to go on.

So it's probably one of those where you're watching it going, what the fuck is going? on kind of movies. You think so I'm kind of try to figure it out as you go. Yeah, that's my only worry is that, you know, it looks a little, it looks a little interesting, but I'm worried that the movie might end up just being all over the place. Yeah. Yeah, I, like I was telling you earlier, Brian, for some reason, I thought we'd already talked about this one a little bit last week, but I do, I do remember watching it last week,

and I noticed that they mentioned that it takes place in Snowdonia. Okay. Which is kind of like the northern part of Wales. I was actually there for a music festival last year. And, I mean, it would be a very good setting for a horror movie because it's so desolate out there. Uh-huh. And, I mean, you've got to, when you're driving on the streets out there, you've almost got to compete with the sheep for road space, you know? Yeah.

And, oh, yeah, it's not unusual. As a matter of fact, the roads are so tiny that if one car is coming from one way and one from the other, then somebody has to literally pull over to the side to let the other one pass. And it's not unusual to drive for half an hour without seeing another car. So it might be a pretty good, yeah, it might be a pretty good area for that. There's a lot of mountains and places to hide and things like that. So, yeah, it could be worth to watch. Anyplace called Snowdonia.

Sounds pretty poor. Yeah, it's named after the mountain there. There's a Snowdonia Mountain. If anybody's interested in checking it out, it is available May 23rd. Okay. And now on to our next trailer. It is another evil. Starring, where's my notes right here?

David Bacchendahl, Beck, Derr. Roberts, Dax Flame, Jennifer Irvin, and Steve Little, which I recognize Steve Little from Eastbounded Down. Okay. That's pretty funny on that show. Okay. Yeah. It's like a poor, like a poor, it looked like a poor man Sean of the Dead in certain spots to me. That's a good description.

I think I like it. I don't know, Brian. What do you think, man? What are you thinking? I actually Right before we started recording I watched it one more time I don't think I'm gonna pass on this one

I mean it looks like it might have some funny Muts in it But I just I don't know I was a little bit bored with the trailer Yeah it's very dry Very like British humorish But like it May have to wait and see on it

because it might be really funny, but it might be really shitty. You know what I mean? I mean, I like what they tried. I like what they tried to because, you know, obviously there's like some actual go shit happening in the beginning of the trailer. But then you've got this fucking psycho, paranormal guy that apparently is, it kind of,

basically the same situation as the cable guy. Yeah. Yeah. He does a That kind of movie. He does his service for the guy and then just really, really just wants to be the guy's friend. Oh, boy. It just, I don't know.

I mean, maybe if it shows up on Netflix, maybe. Check it out. You know what? I'll totally watch it if it shows up on Netflix on Netflix because it looks super quick. quirky and maybe kind of cool. But, you know, I mean, it might be, I don't know, man. It's, it's either going to be really funny or just really bad.

Not much, not much room for shades of gray on this one. It's not going to be, oh, it was okay. I'm looking up some stuff on IMDV. I guess at Fantasia 2016, it got four and a half stars out of five. That's a good sign. Wow. Wow. It looks like it could be really fun.

funny, man. Yeah. I think Phillips right. It can go one way or it can just completely go the other way. Right. It looks more comedy and, you know, comedy is subjective. You know, what's funny to one person might not be funny to the next. So, you know, maybe I think I've seen it available now on a on demand or a VOD or whatever.

Okay. Well, I'll see if I can find it. And. What a title. Another. It almost sounds like it's the next Austin Powers movie or something, like Scott Evil has a son or something. All right. See, I watched Goldmember 27,000 times.

I love that movie. That is a classic, man. Okay. On to our final trailer, which was actually just released a few hours ago from when we started recording. I remember they were talking about this. I didn't actually know they were actually pursuing or going ahead with this. Marvel's Cloak at Dagger TV series. And it stars Olivia Holt as Dagger and Aubrey Joseph as Cloak.

What did you guys think? What network is it on? Freeform. It's a good question. Free form. What the hell is free form? You remember when you had me watch that horrible, summer camp show or whatever it was.

I never watched it. I never watched the single episode of that, dude. That was somebody else who told you about that. You sent me the trailer. I might have sent me the trailer, but I never watched it. Okay, look, the only good thing that that had going for it was that it had the Candyman in it. And I think he played like a King Counselor or something? I tell you what, I watched the first episode and he couldn't even save it. I tapped out after one episode.

That's the only thing that worries me about this show. Because the preview looked like it was kind of decent. Cloak and Dagger are, you know, I mean, they're not super memorable characters, but they're at least big characters in the Marvel Universe. Yeah, I really like their power setting. Yeah. Cloak teleports and daggers, she creates like daggers out of like some kind of light force. Right.

And like there's, um, I remember reading in a comment. looks like I think she has the power to like purge someone's addiction out of them. Oh, wow. Yeah, and I think there's a lot of cool shit can be done, but it just looked too like

this show can also be on the CW. Right. It was like a lot of teenage drama. Yeah. Well, now it kind of, it kind of

I'm okay with it because it may be teenage drama, but maybe a little more serious, in depth. humanizing side. Yeah, what I was hoping, because you didn't really get a lot of scenes of their actual powers. Yeah, that's true. I'm hoping that they're just, they're not trying to throw everything out there and want you to watch the show because I'm really, you know, if they do the powers right, it could look super cool. See, and my issue with like the first season of Daredevil and even with Jessica Jones and,

and and others, you know, is like, man, they never get, I get that you have to have an origin story, but like they don't even get their superhero costumes until the end of the season. I'm like, man. Ah, that's true. That's true. I wanted to see that shit in like episode two.

Right. So it kind of depends on how they go with it. But it looks, it looks very, it looked like a Netflix kind of series to me. So, yeah. I have a little bit of hope for it, but that may be misplaced because it's on free form. Yeah, I'm definitely going to check it out. You know, I hope because more and more people talk to me about Iron Fist.

I'm getting so down on that show. And I'm hoping this is something fresh and new, you know. I didn't even finish Iron Fist. I watched, I like binge the first, you got to finish it, man. 10 episodes and then didn't finish. You know what? A lot of people have said they've binged a lot of episodes and when they've stopped, they just didn't care to go back.

Right. Like I had no desire to go back to it. I binge the first 12 and had one episode left and watched it like two weeks later. Right. That's weird. Yeah. I just, and the same thing happened with Luke Cage because I thought Luke Cage started out great. Yeah, it did.

Yeah, and then near the end, I just, I kind of, I didn't care anymore. Yeah, see, I, I really only, I didn't even finish Luke Cage. I only watched the first three or four episodes. Oh, shit. Yeah. You guys are killing me, man. But, uh, why would you, why would you start it and not at least, and not at least finish it? I mean, these, they're only 13 episodes.

I did the same thing, though, with, with the first season of Daredevil. I watched the first, you know, four or five episodes. And then I just left it alone for, like a fucking year. And then I watched the second half of season one and all the season two. Okay.

But season two is way better than season one. Because of the Punisher aspect? Probably. There were more cool-ass fight scenes. More shit happened. There were some pretty good fight scenes in the first season too. That whole was amazing.

Not near as cool as the second season. It was a bunch of really cool. one's in the second one. Yeah, the elevator, the elevator scene, the one where he, where he's in the fight, and then the Punisher's also in a fight in the same building. Yeah, well, and then, yeah, that stairwell scene, that was in season two. That was awesome. Yeah, and then, uh, and then the prison scene where the Punisher's whooping some tail. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah, a little, a little thing on the Punisher, I think we might get a trailer soon, because I could be wrong. Anybody out there correct me, but I think I read that

they just wrapped filming. Oh, cool. Yeah, I saw a movie poster on Facebook and showed all of the different characters. So maybe we'll get a trail of soon, but I'm thinking

we're getting close to San Diego Comic-Con, so they might hold up until makes sense. I guess we'll have to go to San Diego. Right. Kevin will be there The wife's not Might not like that

So cloak and dagger I think we'll all probably give the first episode To try Yeah why not No firm release date But we're getting it Oh 2018

So It's a bit odd They're giving us a trailer now Yeah seems that way that's a little bit of a weight, isn't it? Yeah. Well, maybe Freeform is putting all their cards down. This is what's going to define us.

Yeah, that's pretty big for them to get a Marvel series. Yeah, it really is. I mean, AMC wasn't shit until the Walking Dead came along. Well, I mean, I guess there was a few other things before that, Breaking Bad and stuff. Yeah. And for a long time, AMC wasn't anything. Yeah. And I believe that is our final trailer.

All right, cool. So we got any feedback this week, Philip? I think you said we actually did have quite a bit, huh? As always, our buddy Patrick Lear, who is, you know, the writer for our show. Screenwriter. Yeah. He sent us a link, and he said he's very pleased about this. It's James Gunn to direct and write Guardians of the Gallery.

see volume 3. I don't know if he's pleased that there's going to be a volume 3 or that James Gunn is directing it, but I'm happy about either one. So, I'm totally okay with that. Let's see. Our next thing, Kevin Nez,

a friend of the show, who's been on here a bunch. He says the Japanese Evil Dead. He's going to link that on our Facebook page. Go over our Facebook page and look at it. It looks kind of cool he's

Kevin Ness says I need to see this I can't blame him for that either did any of you guys check it out? No I haven't checked

what is it the Harry-Ciri committing zombies or what? I don't know I did I was when he when it popped up on my phone I was with my daughter and I wasn't able to check it out

because my wife's getting mad at all the horror movies I let my daughter watch so All right. Sorry about that. You know what? We'll be all right.

Yeah. Yeah. My daughter is, she wants me to take her to see it opening night. Oh, that would be awesome. How old? Seven.

She's just really into the horror movies. That's cool. I mean, you know, I mean, there's some things I won't let her watch, but she really wants to see it because she's, she loves strange.

of things. But my wife's putting her foot down. Man, I don't know. That's kind of cool. My six-year-old is not really into any of that. It's my little one that will sit down and watch horror movies with me,

but she didn't quite get it. And if it gets just scary, I'm like, all right, we got to go. It's usually the younger ones because my two oldest one, my oldest daughter claims to be a horror fan. Matter of fact, she'll If we ever do the most overrated horror movies, we'll probably have her come on. I'll just ask her to make a list of her favorite horror movies.

That'd be cool. Yeah, because her favorite horror movies are a bunch of shit. That is not scary. Give us an example. You guys ever see the apparition? Nope. I don't think I have. Maybe there's a reason.

Yeah, it is a piece of shit. What about Zoobbies? Oh my God. I tapped out of Zoomies. It was fun, man. I enjoyed that. I never watched it. Just from the cover, I was like, I can't legitimately watch this.

I think I watched maybe 20 minutes. I liked it. Probably for all the wrong reasons, but I liked it. Well, and okay. So there's the evil. Dead, the Japanese Evil Dead. And then we have another discussion going on on our Horror Returns Facebook page between Reed Wilson and Art Callie.

Sounds like we might have a big old horror mega podcast going on at some point sometime sometime soon. Oh, yeah? Yeah, it sounds like they want to, everybody wants to guest star on each other. shows so uh cool we'll see how that goes and i'm down with that so there you go mega podcast uh that's all listener feedback for this week because we're doing it a little bit early um but as always we love to hear from you uh you can reach out to us at the horror returns at gmail dot com or check us out on any of our social media pages facebook instagram twitter uh Just search for the horror returns, and we will be there.

But one other thing, Philip, you did say that Alfonso chimed in, right? From the bad boy show? Yeah, yeah, Alfonso Salazar. So we may have another guest pretty soon, right? He's probably going to be a guest on our show in the very near future. And then maybe on a big old horror collaboration with the other guys, too. Oh, man, we've got to figure out how we can put that together. Brian, are you on that?

All right. Can Skype handle it? I think Skype can handle up to 25 callers, so I think we're going to be okay. That's what the facts is. Yeah, we'll find out, huh? All right, well, so that's the feedback section. That's it. So, and now it's time for our featured attractions.

As I said earlier this week, we're doing things a little bit differently. We're going to be covering two newer movies that... I think we purposely went and picked a couple that might not be on everyone's radar. So here we are coming into the big summer blockbuster season. So pretty much every week there's going to be a killer, gigantic release. We had the Fate of the Furious. Of course, after that, Guardians is right around the corner. and then I think at that point it's probably going to be,

I don't think we'll have too much of a chance to do too many of these smaller, more independent films. Yeah. You know, so we took the opportunity this week, and also because Colossil is still not out here, to cover a couple of smaller releases that we felt were worth covering. So we're going to be reviewing the new film, Pet, as well as rupture.

So we'll start out talking about Pet, The director was Carlos Torrens. He's a director from Barcelona, Spain, which is actually where I'm going to be on holiday at the end of June. So maybe I'll meet up with him. He is also known for Apartment 143. Now, I've heard about that one. Brian, have you seen Apartment 143? I have heard of it.

I think I've seen it on Netflix. I think I'm going to check it out. It's supposed to be pretty good. But he's also done a segment from the ABCs of Death 2.5. Okay. The writer of this one, um, gonna have some special love in your heart for this guy, Brian.

He's Jeremy Slater. Uh, not, not for this one necessarily the Lazarus effect. That one was, yeah, meh. Uh,

but he did, uh, pretty much all the writing for the television show, The Exorcist. Oh, okay. So, so, I know you enjoyed that.

Uh, This movie was actually filmed in the same studio set room in Los Angeles that was used for the original movie Saw. Pet premiered at South by Southwest in Austin, Texas on March 11th, 2016, and was released in limited release to theaters on December 2, 2016. And then finally, this is kind of a questionable bit of fame for it, I guess, but it is the lowest grossing theatrical release of 2016 with a total gross of just $70 from one theater.

Wow. Did it only play in one theater? I think it only played. See, I don't see how you can count that kind of shit, man. Oh, man. Well, I... That upsets me a lot. All right, well, then since you're so upset by it,

why don't you tell us what you thought about the actual... I am upset by it because I loved this movie. I thought it was awesome. It was a motherfucking plot tornado. At least it wasn't the sharknato, right? That's true. But you think you know what's going on during this movie, and it does a really good job of setting everything up.

And then halfway through it, it just hits you in the face because it turns it on its ass. And I like that. I like the way that they went with the plot twist. It's always, you know, those really tense movies like that, it always comes down to how they end it, you know? Yes, I agree. I think that they ended this one really well. They ended it totally unexpected.

I didn't see any of the shit coming. And I really enjoyed all of it, man. And I went from thinking one thing to thinking something totally different halfway through the movie. Yeah, I can see that. Even halfway through the movie, I was, I still wasn't entirely sure that what was going on was, was truthful. And I kind of don't want to say any more than that because I don't want to ruin it. It was really fun to watch. I completely enjoyed it.

It was, it was the best movie I've watched in a while, man. It was, it was a lot of fun. All right. Well, let me ask you this, Philip. Can you give just like the basic setup? for the listeners, because this is one that I think people are going to want to check out. And it's pretty easily accessible on demand and whatnot. So, like, you know, just the first, like, 10, 15 minutes.

What's the basic setup? Okay. So Dominic Moynihan, the guy from, uh, he was in Lord of the Rings. What else was he in? He was, he was the rock star from Lost. Okay. Lost and Lord of the Rings. You ought to figure it out from there.

a hobbit little guy um so wait wait a minute he was a rock star on lost yeah he was yeah yeah yeah he sure was man yeah he was like a heroin addict oh no he was really good he was really good in the part yeah yeah i'm sorry i'm just not a fan of dominic monahan i like him anyway um so he plays this super creepy fucking like ah beady little eyed punch you with this point dexter guy right right and uh and he's he's straight up facebooking or facebook stalking this chick he writes down you know likes and dislikes and and and it follows her everywhere to her house everything completely stalking her and uh uh they they set it up like that uh i don't know how far to go with it but it's

Super creepy. You get that whole tension of him stalking her and how she may feel with him stalking her. Because it's kind of obvious that she's trying to blow him off and he's just not getting it at all. Keeps going. That's a good way to put it. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So, I mean, that's the basic setup. And then, you know, I think anybody who's seen the trailer knows that, you know, some things happen. You know, he goes a little, maybe he goes a little too far.

with his obsession. So, yeah, and he works at like a, I guess is it like a humane society, or is it a vet? I guess it's a humane society, right, Brian? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Go ahead.

I was just agreeing with you guys. Yeah, just a, yeah, he's got like these cages and stuff that he, you know, it has access to. Well, one thing, one thing about his character very early on, that was pretty telling about him, that especially if you think back, you know, in retrospect, is if you'll recall, there was a dog that he, yeah, it had to have been like a shelter, because there was a dog that he had to put down because I guess they hadn't found an owner for it,

and he really didn't want to put that dog down. He was, but he wasn't quite willing to take the dog and take care of it. So that kind of told you a couple of things about him right now. And that was pretty interesting the way that they did. that and they showed him to be, you know, caring like that, but didn't necessarily want, I guess, the responsibility or whatever. Right. So, yeah, the setup was good.

He was definitely a dweeb. You know, definitely, you could tell there was something totally off with him. You know, then, of course, you've got this chick that he's going after that's kind of almost like, seems like almost the all-American type. And, you know, like you said, she didn't want anything to do with his. schmock and she was just sort of you know I guess like she's kind of like the popular girl and he was kind of like the nerd I guess

in a way she looks like an Instagram model yeah okay I'll go I'll go with that but yeah I mean that's that's probably as far in the setup as I want to go Brian what do you what do you what do you want to say he knew her from high school so he felt like he had you know

the ability to talk to her and stuff um I really really enjoyed this movie I mean like Phillips said there was, you know, when one twist happened, you thought that's where the movie was going. Then another twist happened. And the lead actors, I'm going to butcher. I'm butchering names left and right today.

Sinaia or Kinsanea or whatever. I just call her Holly because that was her name in a movie. Whatever. She was awesome. Yes. She was fantastic. Yeah. Right.

My one gripe is I do not like Dominic Monaghan. I just kind of feel like. he was good in the beginning of this movie and then he kind of just trailed off near the end. I just felt like his acting compared to her acting, it just kind of got lost near the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see that. I can see that too. I really liked him at the beginning.

Yeah. Not like liked him. I actually kind of hated him at the beginning. Okay, so I watched the first 20 minutes of the movie and then I went and got my wife because I was like, okay, you're going to want to to watch this one. It looks like it's pretty good. Yeah? Did she like it? Yeah, she did. She liked it a lot. And so I went back and watched the first 20 minutes again, and I actually had a different

perspective of Dominic Moynihan from the first time. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. And I mean, I'm talking 20 minutes into the movie, so I already knew he was like this creeper, but it was one of the questions that I was going to ask in spoilers was you know what I'll save that for yeah there's a lot to be brought up in

spoilers yeah definitely a lot to be brought up in spoilers but it was like you know was did he did he think about this before or is it something that happened on the way hmm interesting what did you guys think about Sam from I Carly she she didn't have much of a the roommate she didn't have too of a part to play, did she? Okay, see, and I didn't know,

that's another question that I have, too, for spoilers. Yeah, that's another question that I have for spoilers. But my wife is the one that brought that up. She was like, she's from that Disney show, Sam and Cat. And I was like, why the fuck did we watch that Disney show, Sam and Cat? And she's like, because the Disney Channel was on 24-7, and it just came on after cartoons. Well, actually, I think it was, actually, I think this was Nickelodeon, but okay, I got you.

Was it? I think so. Well, no, okay, but she was on Sam and Kat, too. Yes. So I think she went from one thing to another. Same character, two different things. Yeah, and so that's what I saw her on. And Kat was Ariana Grande when she was a baby, which she still kind of is.

Still kind of is. Right. Whatever. All right, well, ratings time? Let's do it. Yeah, let's do it. Too many spoilers to go into, right? I know, right?

Well, it's one of those kind of movies, man. Well, I went first. I'm going to rate this one probably higher than I should, but I think it was really good. It was really entertaining, and I enjoyed every minute of it up until the very end of it. I loved the ending. I loved everything about it. I'm going to give it a nine. Wow.

Yeah. Which is way more than it got in any kind of ratings that I've ever looked at. Man, I'm telling you, watch this movie. It was fun. If you don't know anything about it, watch it. Don't look up anything about it. Just watch it. Brian, I think we know who spent the $70 in the movie theater?

Yeah, but all kidding aside, guys, I give it a relatively high score, too. I'll give it a 6.5. I think of anything, yeah, I couldn't agree with you more, Brian. I couldn't put my finger on what was bothering me. But, yeah, Dominic's acting just totally fell off. It just kind of felt like he was phoning it in a little bit in the last half, but was it him phoning it in, or was it her doing such a good job and being so convincing that it just kind of overshadowed him?

I don't know. Yeah. I think it's the latter. I think she just over, her acting just overtook his. And I'm very interested to see her and other things. A show I watch right now, I'm going through her IMDB. I watch Orphan Black. Oh, is she in that?

Yeah, I'm currently on the third season. And I see she shows up on the third season. So I'm very interested to check out, basically check out her work from here on out. I'm going to be honest with you. like her in the beginning of the movie. Yeah, until that turn happened. Had her nose up in the air and everything. You were, you were rooting for Dominic early, aren't you?

Well, I wasn't rooting for him because it was a creepy little shit. Right. But I wasn't root for her either. Definitely not rooting for her then, huh? Yeah. I got you. But no, I mean, 6.5, that's a good score, guys. I mean, that's basically two-thirds good and one-third bad.

So would I have paid $10 to see this at the theater? Yes, I would absolutely. So for me, that's the acid test. Brian, what do you think? I'm going to go one full point higher and giving us seven and a half. That's very good. She was great in this movie. And I just, like you guys have brought up before,

it just kept, just when you thought it was one way, it just turned and then turned and then turn. And it just kept you interested, kept your eyes on the screen. And, yeah, I have to Dominic Monaghan, I don't

fucking know. I don't know. He's not done nothing good since Loaded the Rings and he wasn't even memorable in that one either. But even if you hated him in this one, it worked. Yeah, I'm going to get into that. I wanted to give it last night when I finished watching it, I wanted to give it an 8.5. This morning when I woke up after I thought it over, I was like, man, I'm going to get that shit a nine.

That was a badass movie. It was fun to watch. I mean, rightfully so. It was definitely a fun movie. I love the plot twist, which we're going to get into here very shortly. But anything else you guys want to mention before we move on to spoilers? No, let's do it. Okay.

This is the spoiler alert. 10 minutes. Warning. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, we'll try to keep it to 10 minutes or less, so you'll know where to pick it up later. And now we'll do the spoiler alert. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right, Philip. You go first. fan uh well i i don't know i don't know what to say uh okay so i wanted to ask there's the big one of course well the big spoiler but i wanted to ask okay so do do you think that he was planning

to lock her in the like this is what i was thinking while i was watching the movie do you think he was planning on locking her in the cage like originally after he met her on the bus because I don't think so. Okay, but after he had that little scene with the German Shepherd that they had to put down, he looks back in that cage and he does this little, huh, thing, you know? And then, was that before or after he got turned down? That was after the bus scene. That was after, that was before he got turned down in the restaurant, though.

okay so i don't originally think i think he was just a fucking creepy stalker guy that just like follows everything about her on social media right but i didn't start following on on social media i mean he went and looked at it but he didn't start writing down that list until after they killed the dog and he looked in that cage and had this look he was like but i think he he had been following her because he had that line in the restaurant when he asked her out and she said that I had a boyfriend and he said no you know you don't well right okay so that was after but he he had killed uh they killed the dog and he looked in the in the cage and did that thing before that happened i don't know you're gonna you're gonna make me watch me out yeah i'm telling you this movie this

movie deserves a second viewing anyway yeah it definitely deserves a second viewing just because are so many plot twists all at once. Right. And like I think that it was, it sort of made me look at Dominic Moynihan a little different. That's what I was talking about when I watched it like, you know, through about 20 minutes of it. And then I went back and watched it again. And like at first I was looking at him as this little cheesy like in love guy and he was just going way too far and super fucking weird. And then 20 minutes later, I started watching.

watching him as like this predator and he was finding. Well, I kind of wanted him. A little more menacing, huh? Yeah. I kind of wanted him to be that way throughout the movie because you get that scene where in the bar where he's again being a creeper. Right. Grabbing on her.

And then at the time, I guess it was her ex-boyfriend. Right. Punches the shit out of him. And he's just laying. Is that who there was? Nobody looked like him. He's just laying on the ground bleeding and he just has this grin on his face. And I'm like, okay, this guy's fucking crazy.

Right. That was fucking creepy as hell, right? But then, like I said, as the movie goes on and her craziness shows, I just, I don't know what happened. It just, like he, I don't know if it's the way the character was supposed to be or he just got, his acting just got overshadowed by hers. and he just could not maintain, you know, what was going on because I don't know. It just, near the end, I don't, I don't know. She was just full on fucking wacky and. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. She took over the lead pole. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She was just manipulating this manipulating situations like with the, with the prison guard, Nate, or not prison guard, uh, security guard, Nate, you know, that, that whole thing. He's trying to break her out and then she just grabs his hands and just asks, have you ever been in love, you know.

Yeah. Well, she wanted him to die. That's what threw me for a loop. She was so fucked up. This was like Harley Quinn for real. Yeah. She did not, she didn't want to escape. She wanted to see Dominic Moynihan kill this guy. That's all she wanted. She figured she could probably get out of the cage at some point later. and she was just happy with being able to watch this guy die. Yeah, I think after, I'm sorry. Real quick, before I forget it, since you mentioned that, one thing that I did notice that was in the IMDB, like under the trivia section, they put it down as an error, but since you guys just put it this way, I'm not so sure it was an error.

They're saying that the lock that he put on there consisted of only four digits of zero through nine. So in what, 9,999 turns, she, at some point within, what, maybe two or three days at the very, very most, she, actually, if she worked on it full time, probably within a day, she could have broken out just by trying every single combination, right? Yeah. I guess. Maybe they did. Maybe that wasn't there or not, but I mean, maybe she didn't want to get out, guys. Maybe she didn't want to get out of there.

I always felt like when she started playing him, I did believe she would think she was going to get out, but I think she always knew that eventually he was just going to let her out. Yeah, she was going to basically force him to get to let her out. Yeah, because he wasn't really, he said he wasn't going to kill her if he didn't have to. His main thing was trying to save her. Mm-hmm. Which again, again, that was another kind of twist right there to how,

fucking wacky he is because he followed her and watched her kill all these people. And a normal person would have fucking got the police. I mean, I don't care if he's like, oh, yeah, I witnessed her killing these people while I was stalking her. I don't

fucking care. You know, I don't know. It's just you watch this crazy-ass bitch just like kill all these people and all these different, not the same way every time. Yeah. I would stay far away from her. Yeah, definitely.

Let me ask you guys this. Did you guys think she was going to kill him at the end, or were you thinking she wasn't going to? I thought he was dead. Yeah, I thought he was dead too. I mean, she slid his throat. Right. Yeah.

I'm still not entirely sure how he survived. Which, okay, let's go to the end, the reveal that she's now. keeping him in a cage. Right. What the fuck happened to his face? That was my question, too. Does she go? I mean, she.

Sacrifice. Basically, okay, you get the scene where she's back with the boyfriend. She finds out he's still cheating on her. Oh, yeah. She thinks about stabbing him. Yes. But then I guess when she goes to see Dominic Monaghan in the cage, she's basically like, I was going to kill, but then I thought of you.

And then it made me feel. better. So I was kind of... What a social commentary that is, these chicks that say those guys that treat him like crap? Yeah, which I was kind of confused. Like, okay, if she is like, if he's like her, basically

like her inspiration to not kill no more. Right. Why does he look like that? Because at first I was like, do you go down there and torture the shit out of him? Probably. He's, he's the, he's the friend zoned guy.

Because he kind of looked like he kind of looked like he was a couple, a couple stages away of looking like the dude from, uh, Hannibal, the rich dude. Oh, you guys know what I'm talking about?

Yeah, yeah, I read the book. Yeah, because his face was all messed up and he, his eyes looked like he was going blind. Right. Or if he wasn't blind already.

So I was just really curious on what happened to him or how long he's been there or I like that they did. tell you. Yeah. It was interesting. And it was just such a flip-flop on everything. And, uh, yeah, you know, it's like I said, it was like, it's like the ultimate friend zone. She's like, okay, if you really love me, I guess you'll sacrifice this and this and this and this and this and your face and your eyes.

Yeah. I think I'm, I'm going to bring it back stupid people. it's back. Oh, yeah. Dominic Ward is definitely stupid people. Yeah. Cut your fucking finger off, you dumbass.

That is so, I don't fucking care. Yeah. And then it turns back into creeper because all he had to do was called the police in the fucking first place. Right. But no. He had to be a fucking creeper

and try to stalk this psycho chick. At some point, he should have just fucking killed her. Because when he killed the security guard, she's telling him exactly what to do to dispose of the body, pull the teeth out, dispose of the teeth, not in the same, you know, she's done this many times before. And at one point, I don't know. I mean, you're right. That just shows how fucking crazy he is, that he's in love with this, this chick, that he's going along with this whole thing. Right.

That just shows you how crazy she is because she, even though she's in the cage, she's controlling the situation. Yeah. So, you know what? I'm sorry. I'm going to bump it up to an eight. Oh, wow. Yeah, just based off of her. Right.

She was fantastic. She was really good in this. Mm-hmm. And then, okay, so I had something to ask, and then I didn't. Oh, I'm sorry. No, I fucked it up. Would it have to do with the very ending or what? Okay, so the scene where she's talking to her pretend roommate is, was, okay, so was the roommate real at all?

Did she actually kill her at some point in time? Yeah, I think at one time she died, what was it, a car crash or something like that? Or does she just have crazy multiple personalities? Well, she didn't actually die from the car crash. she died from her stabbing her. That's right. That's right. But, okay, this is where, okay, I think you're on to something because if she died, Mm-hmm.

The whole reveal was that she was sleeping with the boyfriend. Right. It doesn't really seem like the boyfriend ever gave a fuck or, I don't know, like maybe this didn't happen. Mm-hmm. Right. Like maybe she's really crazy. Oh, wow.

You guys are blowing my mind, man. Yeah, because there was that scene when Dominic Monaghan, and he said, before I walk in, I can hear you talking in two different voices. Right. So there was that. And then there was the, there was the, there was the, there was the scene where she was talking to her pretend roommate after Dominic Monaghan left. After, after he had accused her of being a murderer. And she was talking about she was just playing the part and just, you know, doing whatever. it takes to get out.

Okay, this, uh, yeah, this, we're gonna have to watch this movie again. Like, yeah, I, I really do feel like I need to go back and watch it again. There was, there was, because there was a few scenes there where I was like, wait a minute. Is this, I don't, I'm not entirely sure what, what's happening. So, like, even during the whole last half of the movie where, where you, you knew that she was the murderer, I wasn't entirely sure that she was the murderer. Like, I, I didn't know if she was just playing the, and we were just waiting for another plot twist to come along.

Right. Or, you know, if it was the way that it seemed all of a sudden. You really thought they were going to go there? Well, I don't know. Obviously it crossed your mind, right? Yeah, just because of that scene where she was talking to her roommate and she said something along lines of, you know, well, I know. I'm just playing the part, you know. Right.

So it sounded like she was trying to Just let him believe whatever he believed Just so that she'd get out of that mess Oh wow that would have been a that would have been a twist She was a sexy bad guy though man I'll tell you that Okay cool so I guess It sounds to me like all three of us would definitely recommend that our listeners check out pet them

Absolutely Oh yeah Yeah don't uh don't believe what you read about the ticket sales and things like that, right? Definitely. Yeah, that is $70. That is crazy. Well, hey, one theater, if that's all it was released, and the producers did the wrong thing.

Right. That's not on the filmmaker there, brother. That's not somebody else. All right. Well, we're going to move on to our next movie, which is Rupcher. It's directed by Stephen Schenberg, also known for. secretary, which is a really good movie. And, uh, fur and imaginary portrait of Diane Arbus.

Any ideas? No. Brian? Nope. Okay. All right. Well, this writer, this, uh, writer has definitely done some good stuff. Brian Nelson, uh, is also known for hard candy.

A great movie. Yeah, very good. 30 days of night and devil. Okay. Which some would say it was the best M. Knight movie in some time, which, of course, he didn't even direct. He just produced it. I won't say it's the best. Well, some would say.

Some would say. It's good. I liked it. Yeah, it wasn't bad. Yeah. What, Brian, tell listeners that may not have seen Hard Candy, can you give us a quick little summary of what that movie was about? Basically, you've got the character, Patrick Wilson. who has a young girl show up to his house,

or not actually show up to his house. He is kind of creepily, I don't know how to put it. He's offering to take pictures of her, I believe that's how it went. What is the actress's name? Ellen Page. Ellen Page, yeah.

Yeah, she's probably in the role. It's pictures or something. Basically, he's talking to this young girl online. They meet up. And then things get a little. little crazy from there, which justifiably they should because he's a fucking creepy pedophile. You know what? After I saw this movie, it was really hard for me to like Patrick Wilson and anything for years. Yeah. You can ask my wife, every time he came on the screen, I would,

I would just, I would just really get creeped out. And I don't think it was finally until Fargo that I started, you know, kind of liking him again in some roles. Oh, which, everybody listening to this, we're recording on a Wednesday, Fargo, Season 3, tonight. Oh, yeah, that's right. So the trivia that we've got on this one, let's see what I was able to dig up here. Oh, Brian, I think I actually messaged you about this one. The wall behind Renee in the detention room repeats the exact pattern of the famous carpet from the movie The Shining. Did you notice that, Philip?

I didn't know. I noticed that it was definitely a striking pattern, but I didn't know that. That's pretty interesting. Yes, it's that same exact weird pattern. Ari Millen and Percy Hines-White's father, Joel Thomas Hines, have both appeared in Orphan Black. There we go again with the Orphan Black stuff, though they never share a scene. So more another movie with a tie to Orphan Black, Brian. Cool.

The film premiered at the Fantasia International Film Festival on July 15th, 2016, and was released in the UK on November 4th, 2016. So that's the trivia that I was able to find on Rupshire, starring Numi Rapace. Brian, what'd you think, man? Okay, I was kind of hoping not to go first, but I'll go ahead, because I don't know how to... You don't have to. I don't know how to...

I don't know how to rate this movie. I don't know if I like it or hate it. I can see where you're coming from. Okay. Newme Rapace. She's fucking great in this movie. Yeah. Everything I see her in.

Oh, you didn't like her? Great's a strong word for me. I like that. For me, anyway. Look, she's no Ripley, okay? And there were some scenes in here that were definitely right out of alien, okay? Yeah, I didn't realize. A little strong female lead, you know.

I didn't realize how muscular she was. I know. A couple of scenes where, you know, she looked like she can kick some ass. It had a great cast. I mean, you got Peter Stormere, Michael Chickless, you know. Other. Oh, you didn't. No, I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying, okay. Peter Stormere, really, Brian? How long was he in this movie? Maybe 10 minutes? He was in it long enough for me to remember. remember he was in it. Oh. Yeah.

I was so disappointed. I was so, no, I was so disappointed that he wasn't in it more. Well, what I'm saying is... He's the big main bad guy. You can't be in the whole movie.

Yeah. What I'm saying is he, when he shows up in a movie, I always remember he was in the movie. Yeah. Fair enough. But there was a lot of creepy things that happened.

Right. A lot of things that had, to do with people's fears. And there was like, I don't know, man. It's just, there was a lot of unexplained things that happened. It was almost like, I don't know if it was edited or they just tried to make you just think about things. But it was really hard for me to really review this movie. And I really thought it was going to be like a body horror type movie.

But it didn't really go that way. Right. and I'm you know I'll pass it off to you guys I'll finish my review after I got to really think about this it was that this movie had me really confused on what it was trying to do yeah I don't blame you man I'll go next and I'm I'm sounds like I'm probably going to be the opposite of what Lance is going to say because I actually really liked this movie it was it was very uh tense you know crime I'm Kidnap Thriller kind of movie that turned sci-fi. And, you know, I mean, I don't want to give too much away. I think it's totally worth watching. I really enjoyed it. Maybe not quite as much as Pet.

Pet surprised me a little more than this one did. But this one was, I mean, while it may not be a 10, dude, it was definitely worth checking out. It was interesting. Some of the special effects were a little goofy. But I liked the idea of the whole thing. It was different and it took me a little bit by surprise. When we get the spoilers, I want you to explain to me what was the idea of this movie because I was kind of lost.

I mean, I do agree with you. It was one movie in the beginning, which I kind of wanted it to be that movie. Because I thought this was just going to be a brutal abduction movie. And they were going to do some really fucked up shit. And then, like you said, it turned into a sci-fi movie. Right. I have no problem.

It's just I really, after the movie got done, I kind of wanted it to be how it started. Yeah, I can see that. It was one of those movies where you don't know what's going on until probably towards the end of the movie. And so you keep guessing as to what is happening. What is happening? But I think that that's kind of cool because it puts you sort of in the same shoes as the main character because she doesn't know what the hell is happening. she just gets kidnapped.

It's a good point. And, and, I don't know. I think it took some cool twists and turns and it was, it was different than a, than your mainstream thriller movie, which is probably why it didn't get, um,

as, as high of marks and things like that, but, uh, but I think it was still definitely worth watching and I, I, I enjoyed it probably more than most. I mean,

it mixed horror. and sci-fi. And I like that. I think that was cool. Well, I actually did like the story. I did appreciate what they tried to do. I thought that it was, I thought that it was a really neat concept without giving too much away. Basically, they were doing things.

I mean, you already know it's a kidnapping movie. I mean, if you've seen the trailer or if you've seen the first 10 minutes of the movie, you already know she gets taken. Right. But, I mean, I like the way. that they kind of, let's see, without spoiling anything here, I like the way that they had a purpose for doing what they were doing. They weren't doing it just to be, see, I'm kind of the opposite of you, Brian.

I think you wanted to see them do it just to be sadistic or to, like you said, have a body horror feel to it or something like that where they finally escape or whatever. I actually like the fact or appreciate the fact, at least, that they tried to incorporate a completely different type of story into that and give a real reason why they were doing it. it. But my, you know, I mean, the two words I would use, because I was really looking forward to this. I don't know if you guys remember when we saw the trailer for this a few weeks back, and I said that I was really, really looking forward to it, and I was glad that I had a direct TV,

because it was one of those direct TV exclusive. Yeah, yeah. Peter Storm there, man. Absolutely, yeah. So I paid the $10.99 to $9.99 to rent it, which I thought was a damn high rental rate, but whatever. Hell, shit. But no, I would best describe this to me as missed opportunity.

I think with the story that they had, I think if there had been more storm air, I think if there had just been better, you know, better acting overall, I think if the editing had been better, I think if the, a lot of those shots were, things were happening in the middle didn't seem like they, I mean, they were really neat visually, but they did just kind of seem like they were just one after the other. I just didn't think it was edited all that well. And considering how much I enjoyed secretary, I was kind of really looking for, and hard candy.

The writer did hard candy. So I think between those two, I was expecting a little bit more of a masterpiece. I think my problem was I went in expecting a lot more out of this movie than I feel like I got. And yes, I do think that they just kind of flat ripped off Ripley in the first alien in a lot of those crawl space scenes and stuff like that. So anyway, that's all I'm going to say about it. You guys ready to rate? Let's do it.

Yeah. Philip, you get to know, who went first? Brian, did we talk you in who went first or not? I kind of went first. I'll go first on ratings, man. I'll volunteer. Okay. I'm going to give it an eight.

I think that it was definitely worth the watch. Would I pay 1099 for it on demand? Yeah, I think so. I think it was, I mean, you got to love that type of movie, and it's definitely something different. You're not going to know anybody in it but Peter Stormair. And Newme Rapace, of course. Right. But it's still, I think, I think it was a really good movie to watch, man.

It was really entertaining. Uh, Brian. Oh, my gosh. I think for now I'm going to get. it as six and a half. That's pretty good. Like I said, I'm right there on the fence. I don't necessarily know if I like it or hate it, but I thought Numeris was great

in this movie. Yeah, we could, I wish I would have had more Peter Stormmare, but kind of going to get into that later. I think she made it more enjoyable her performance in this movie. So for now, this is probably going to be another rewatch for me. So six and a half. Both of them are a little hard to rate. True, true.

Well, this will probably be another rewatch for me, but I guarantee it won't be for $10.99. If it's on Netflix, I'll rewatch it for sure. But, no, I actually did like it more than I didn't like it. And that's actually because of the creepy scenes in the middle there. So all in all, at the end of the day, I'll give it a 5.5 because I don't want to give it just a flat 5. I want to go on one side of the fence of the other. And so I would definitely say because it's a lot of the creepy imagery that I thought was really cool. And the basic storyline, although not the execution of it, I'll give it a 5.5.

Spoiler time. It's crazy that I'll remember more of this movie than the fate of the Curious. Guaranteed. That's good, man. That's why we go to the movies, right? That's why we do what we do, guys. fucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. I'll kick it off. Where I originally said how I thought this movie was going to go. This movie looked like it was going to be

really brutal and crazy because that whole abduction scene, right? They just basically, she gets the flat tire that they initiate because they put a little thing to blow out her tire which I was just, it really had me intrigued in the beginning because of kind of rewind a little bit.

They were already watching her because they had cameras set up in her house. Right. They're super fucking efficient. Yeah. And like yeah, definitely efficient. Truck pulls up. Guy offers to help very persistent. She allows him to do it, which was kind of,

weird because she just really seemed like a you know, I'll do it myself type of person. I don't need anybody's help. Especially with those guys she has, huh? She should have no problem changing a tire, right? Yeah,

and then when the actual abduction, because they tackle the shit out of her, tase her, and then duct tape her entire head. I was thinking, how the fuck is she breathing? I know. I was like, why did they duct tape? her whole head.

And then they cuff her in the back of a truck and then cut her jeans off and then give her a bucket to piss in talking about this is going to be a long ride. So I'm like, where the fuck are they taking her? Yeah. It got scary real

quick. Yeah, and that's where I was really into this movie. And then when we just got into all the other stuff, it was creepy, it was intriguing, but it didn't really go nowhere. And then when the meal of who these people were. I got really fucking confused.

Are they aliens? Are they mutants? What's going on? I didn't really understand the thing with the touching of the skin, the rubbing faces. Because apparently you can read, you can tell what people's thinking through their skin. They can absorb information through the skin, which it doesn't make sense in a couple of parts in the movies. but uh when it first happened i thought they were just these people are weird because they like sniffing her and rubbing her skin they keep saying she has interesting skin well yeah but

which i like it too because that's the next step in evolution man the the more we evolve the more you know for example a lot of people think that as humans evolve we're going to have you know telekinetic abilities and abilities to read other people's minds and stuff like that so why wouldn't it extend that as well? Like sense of smell, for example. I had no problem with it. I liked it. I didn't get no explanation of where these people came from.

Right. Yeah, that's actually a pretty good point. I didn't really think about that. But it would have been nice to have some sort of origin story aside from being abducted and trying to be induced into this culture. But yeah, I think it is. It's just the next step of human evolution. So they found this strain of DNA.

And apparently if you get scared enough, they, which I don't know why being kidnapped and locked in a fucking room by yourself would not be scared enough. Yeah, she looked pretty fucking scared. Yeah. But then then you evolve into this hills have eyes looking creature. And, uh, with like three pupils and suddenly have these Spock-like abilities where you don't feel emotion anymore.

And everything is very rational and calm, you know. So it was definitely a weird reveal. I was kind of hoping for aliens actually halfway through the movie. But I think this was a cool version of it, though. It was just, it was. You guys have to it. Oh, you guys are kind of cutting out. Uh-oh.

Sorry, man. Oh, okay. There you are. You guys got to admit the special effects on one day it was rupturing was a little wonky. Yeah. A little bit. That was really my biggest problem with the movie was when their faces got all distorted. It was, yeah.

I mean, it was pretty obviously computer animation just... You think? Sending their face in right. I mean, I know, man. They could have used some more practical effects to make that look cooler or something, but it was... It is what it is, man, you know? It was super digitized, and it was not very... Mm-hmm.

I wish maybe they had done something else with that. Like, maybe a different kind of effect. Like, why would human evolution have you looking like that? yeah that was a bit of a stretch wasn't it like I can understand the eyeballs that's kind of cool but like the whole face getting all jumbled chunk from you know goonies

and it wasn't even chunk what is his name sloth oh guys that's what I do I did I did enjoy that whole scene though when they got her to rupture because you could just, she acted that scene out really well. That fear of the spiders and her beating her head on everything to try to break that helmet off her head.

That's what I'm saying. I thought that she did great in the movie. I loved the accent. I loved the strong woman. I love the costume design, even, of her and her little blue tank top outfit. And it was, I thought she did awesome. Awesome. Right. Well, I mean, we all enjoyed it to a certain extent. Obviously, you guys enjoyed it a lot more than I did. I would definitely watch Pet again first before I would watch this again. Yeah. Pet was better, but this was good.

Yeah. Like I said, I just wanted more out of it. I just wanted more out of it. You know, my expectations were too high. Simple as that, you know? That's all it was, because I wasn't expecting anything out of this movie at all. Right. All right. So you guys would recommend this to our listeners then? Yeah, absolutely. Don't listen to my review because I was just confused as shit, but it's definitely worth checking out. Yeah, definitely, definitely worth watching. Even if you don't like it, it's worth watching. All right, well, on that note, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns.

we would love, Philip would love to hear your feedback and ideas, right, Philip? Let's do it. I'm here. I'll listen to you. You can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com. Be sure to follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Podbean. Just do a search for the horror returns. We are on iTunes. You can rate us and review us if you'd like. And next week, we will be reviewing the relatively new movie The Void,

as well as the original John Carpenter Classic The Thing. And Brian, I know you're looking forward to that. Yes, I am. It'd be awesome. And we might try to squeeze in a review for Colossal as well, if at least one of us makes it out to the limited screening, because I think it will be at a couple of theaters in Houston starting this weekend. So I'm going to try to make it out there,

although definitely won't be doing it this weekend because I'll be out of town, but maybe during the week. So, until the horror returns again, Brian. Good night.