The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #472: Shark Night 3D (2011) & Dangerous Animals (2025)

Episode Date: June 14, 2025

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I'm Lance, and with me as always, we've got Philip and Brian. What's going on, guys? What's up? Same old, same old. Well, we're doing Shark Week this week. I was actually supposed to go on a fishing trip today. but yeah yeah but it uh it got rained out so i didn't get eaten

oh man when when he said that brian in the in the group i thought for sure he was pulling our legs you know fishing trip on shark night come on i'm supposed to be on a on a deep sea boat right now oh wow being fed to the shocks i've not done that since i was a kid Yeah, I was going to take the kids with me. They were pretty stoked about it. My daughter's going through her puberty thing, so she was crying when I told her it got canceled.

That'll make like the 25th thing this week. There'll be other trips. Yeah. Oh, no, we rescheduled it. Make sure you got some, I forgot what it's called for seasickness. Oh, yeah. No, I got all kinds of C-6 stuff, just in case.

Drama mean and some patches. Just in case. All right. You guys ready to dive in? Been doing the shit all night. Get it. Oh,

man. All right. Well, let's take a bite out of cool of the week. What's you got, Brian? I got one movie and one TV show. I got, I'll start with the TV show.

Nothing really. horror this week. I checked out the new Apple TV plus sports dromedy I guess you would categorize it stick starring Owen Wilson

Oh, that's the golf one right? Yeah. Oh, okay. It's four episodes out right now. It's pretty decent. The comedy's pretty good. Owen, well, it's Owen Wilson. You know, he always brings the last

and you got a little bit of emotion in there and you got the sports angle. He's like an ex-golfer down on his luck and he discovers a new kid. And the first thing he says when he sees him hit the ball is, wow. You know what? Now I'm thinking he might have.

But he convinces the boy's mom to let him be his. coach because he sees something in him. And where I'm at in the show, he's about to start trying to qualify for the tour. Oh, that's cool. Four episodes out right now, they're about like 30 to 40 minutes each. So it's a quick watch. So it's pretty decent.

All right. Yeah, I saw a little preview for that. Yeah, I saw a little preview for that. It looked pretty interesting. Yeah. I thought it was going to be like Ted Lassow, but it's, It's not as adult as Ted Lasso, but I mean, they do drop F bombs and stuff like that. Yeah.

But it's not as adult as Ted Lasso. But it's pretty good so far. I'm going to stick with it. And the movie I checked out was... All right. I'm done. The movie I checked out this week was a predator, killer of kill. killers, the animated anthology series.

Oh, cool. Pretty cool. I dug it. Added more to the Predator lore. I like the format of the anthology with different time periods. Bloody. The animation was good. And there's Easter eggs throughout.

And there is a cameo. I won't spoil it setting up a future movie at the end. Oh, okay. So pretty, pretty cool. I guess we'll just watch it. Yeah, it's on Bulu right now. Okay. So.

I think Philip nailed it up. It's, Arnold is like a five-year-old kid, starting his training. Drinking raw eggs with Rocky. I can't spoil it. All right. The predators do come to Earth at different time periods. Huh.

Okay. They built the pyramids, didn't they? Pretty cool. I can't get nothing away. Okay. We knew that from one of the Alien versus Predator movies, right? Yeah. You know, I don't think those are canon anymore.

I read somewhere. Oh, yeah. Well, that's all right. They were pretty bad. They were fun. The comics were really good, the Dark Horse comics. If you ever read those? Yeah, those were really bloody.

Yeah, those were dark. Yeah. I remember coming across those when I was a kid and was like, they put this in a comic book. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But that's all I got is a stick and predator killer of killers. And I can guess which ones you're cool of the week.

Yeah. And it ain't stick? Okay. I do recommend stick, though. Okay. I forgot about the Predator when I'll have to check that out. But I've got a couple of them that are non-horror related to. One of them is sports.

I watched the comeback on Netflix. It's the story of the 2004 Boston Red Sox that broke the curse of the Bambino. Yeah. They were down like, they were down three games. to none in the ALCS against the Yankees and down in the ninth inning and then made to come back to beat them and then win the World Series. It was pretty awesome. Yeah. And Philip, Stephen King and some other dude just happened on that particular year, Stephen King and I forget who the other guy is, documentary writer, but they just happened to be following the Red Sox

and write the book, and they went to every single game and met some of the players throughout the season and come to find out that was the year they broke the curse. That is a trip when you think about it, right? Yeah. It was a wild one. It was a pretty fun ride. And I'm not even huge Red Sox fan, but I'm even less of a Yankees fan, so I'll pick it. There you go. And I watched Tires on Netflix. I don't know if you guys have ever seen that. It's got a Shane Gillis, the comedian. Okay. Yeah, and like a lot of his buddies are in it.

It is, they're basically just little sitcom things, but like the comedians are kind of just playing themselves in real life. It's really funny. And they just came out with their second season recently. And it was totally worth the watch. Tires. Yeah. And my half-ass horror-related one is Love Death and Robot. I finally caught up on that one.

Yeah. It's a lot of fun, man. I like the little miniature space alien thing where they're, they land. And he's like, I come in peace and opens his robe. And he's like, he's got to go and he shoots his dick off.

And they like hilarity ensues. It's crazy. It's like three stooges, but aliens. And then the, the cat one with the robot. and they're they're like taking over the world together uh that that one cracked me up i thought it was pretty good that was and that's what i got this week nice yeah i'm like the like i was telling you dude

it was it was corny but i really like the the red hot chili peppers as uh puppets oh yeah that that was pretty fun i'm not sure what the point of it was but it was fun just fucking around probably i mean it's probably something they did just for the hell of it. And I don't know how they got in touch with the people that put the show together. But oh, that would fit in here, kind of. And that is one of my favorite chili pepper songs. So I'll take it. Yeah, it's awesome.

And I like the, you're talking about the cat. I like the other one with the cat where he had to outsmart the devil. Yeah. That was pretty cool. Some good stuff. So that's your cool of the week then. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I kind of all three of them.

They were all pretty awesome. Nice. I didn't think I'd get sucked into that Red Sox one, but it was great. It's on Netflix, you said? Yeah. And it's called The Comeback? Yeah. All right.

I'm adding that to the list right now. Got to check that out. That was a good team, too, man. They had a really good team. Great pitching staff and some Power hitters. Yeah, I think the Astros. Big Poppy was on that team, right?

Yeah, that was when Big Poppy became Big Poppy. Like, before that, he was kind of, it's just okay. And then he started just fucking cranking balls out of the ballpark. Then he became Big Poppy instead of just David Ortiz. There you go. All right, I'm going to go with non-horror guys. We're all non-horror tonight. The accountant, too.

Um, okay. Action. It's close enough. First, it was okay. What'd you think, Brian? You saw it, right? Yeah, I like the accountant, too. I just thought they added a little too much comedy.

I kind of like that, though, man. Especially John Bernthal's character. Yeah, yeah, but Bernthal can do no wrong, man. He stole the movie. Definitely stole it away from Ben, don't you think? Yeah, but it's just a complete turnaround. from his character in the first one. He's a stone cold killer that is revealed to be Ben Affleck's brother.

Right. And then the second one, he's like got feelings. I know. He's like a comedic, he's like a comedic stone cold killer. He's trying to, he's trying to buy a dog, right? Yeah, I get Ben Affleck because he's, he's trying to learn how to, you know, cope with his condition. be more outgoing. But John Berthal is just

the wacky other brother. It's like Rain Man, but instead of going to Vegas, they just murder people. Yeah. There's some good action scenes. They actually do go on a road trip in this movie. They do go on a road trip.

And Barenthal's character punches a dude literally off the second floor onto a car. Oh, I didn't I hit him that hard. Yeah. Four, five, six pieces. Definitely six pieces he's in.

Now that Brian mentions it, he was kind of goofy in this movie, wasn't he? Yeah. Didn't he go like on a blind date too? And now I ended up on quacky. Somebody else told me it was pretty good. It's good. It's good. The action's good.

Especially. the band when they, you know, they got a team up, take on the bad guys. What's it on Amazon? Yeah, it just dropped on Amazon. Yeah, let's check it out. All right. So I think the takeaway here is check out the comeback, huh? And tires, dude, it's so funny.

Tires, okay. Fucking Vince Vaughn shows up on the second season. It's great. I did when I saw I honestly thought it was maybe like a sequel to you guys remember that movie Tire that French movie about the killer

radial tire that kept bouncing rubber desert no rubber okay all right see I even got the title wrong I thought it was tire yeah no it's a it's a sitcom they're they work in like a tire shop and it's just guys fucking around it's funny

all right now I now I get it they work in the tire shop that's the Yeah. The through. Okay. All right. So a lot of cameos and people show up that you don't really expect, I guess. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, the dude from the flagrant podcast. Fuck, I can't remember his name off got my head. But he runs like this. Oh, Andrew. Andrew Schultz. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that goes hilarious.

He's got like a, they have like this Italian car dealership. And they're sort of like buddies with this tire shop because they do some business together. And it's like him and his brother. and they are just straight up meatball Italians. It's hilarious. God damn it. All this shit I have to add to my list. What,

okay, where was this one? Oh, that was on Netflix, was this also Netflix? Yeah. God damn it. All right.

Can't get rid of Netflix this month. Well, Stranger Things is a meme. All right. I saw a meme where it was a, a picture of the guy the guys from grownups, the Adam Sandler movie. Yeah.

And it was like the next season of Stranger Things. That's true. All right. Well, who got for news? All right. Horror headlines brought to you by Brian. Help us, Brian. All right.

We got more Carrie casting news. The Mike Flanagan Limited series. Wouldn't be a Mike Flanagan. again show without his wife, Kate Siegel. You know what? That's like the new Rob Zombie thing, right? Like he literally castor everything. Kate Siegel can act.

Can act. I knew where that was going and you were 100% correct. Also, on the joining the cast is Heather Graham. Okay. And Katie Sackaw. Oh, yes, from Battlestar, Galactica. Yeah, and The Mandalorian. That's right.

Heather Graham in a minute. That's right. Yes, she was in that. You saw it, Brian. I didn't. I know what you're getting at, though. I saw what? You're breaking out.

The one with Heather Graham? What was it? Oh, gosh. Is this thing on? Here we go with the audio problems again. It's being very vague. There was a movie The thing with the heathergram

The movie with Heather Graham I didn't see it I think you saw it The one I was the one I don't know what we're talking about But I think the movie I'm talking about Is a suitable flesh That's the one I never saw it

The Body Swab Body Horror movie that was on Shutter It's pretty good Oh yeah I remember the movie I don't think I ever saw it though okay yeah check it out

she's been doing a lot of horror lately so I'll take it let's see do we get any movie news we talked about a 24 adapting the YouTube short the backrooms

until a feature like movie last week says it's going into production this summer okay that's creepy I was going to be like oh damn what was that A24 movie I just oh yeah we're going over that

this week. Let's see. Amanda Sigfrey says Jennifer Body, Jennifer's Body 2 is happening. But if they don't bring Megan Fox back, she will not do the movie. Well, I mean, how could they not bring Megan Fox back, right?

I don't see why they wouldn't. Oh, this was a big one last week. I forgot to mention it. Actually, it broke when we were done recorded. There is a bidding war starting on the Texas chainsaw rights. And there are several studios and filmmakers bidding on it. I'm going to go through some of them right now. J.T. Molnar, who directed Strange Darling's,

is partnered up with actor Glenn Powell. And they are bidding on it. okay Glenn Powell's leather face I mean I think the I think as a

lemon face I think I was a producer okay but they want to adapt I guess their team they got a they're working out

some kind of deal with another producer Roy Lee and A24 to turn it into a TV series oh dude A74 Leatherface

I'll take it TV series. Somebody who takes it. Yeah, I'll do with TV series. Somebody that's going to take it seriously and not just put out some block. Also and also putting in bids is Oz Perkins. Oh, it could be interesting. He's teaming up with Brian Bertino, who wrote and directed The Strangers, the original one,

and they are teaming up with neon to put their bid in. Oh, I'm Damn. Neon and A-24, dude. Also putting in a bid is Jordan Peel's Monkey Paul production. Oh, man. Damn.

I didn't know this type of thing happened. Is it like an auction where they hold up paddles? One million. $6 million. I don't know, but I'm liking my options so far. And the least liked option, in my opinion, is Netflix is

going to try to get the rights back for another movie. Yeah, and I get them the fuck out of there. Philip, Philip, they've got the deepest purse. That's the problem. We're paying for it. What would Brian Birdtini do if he were here today?

I'm sure he'd get gas or two. All right. Let's see. Ready or not? not the sequel titled Ready or Not Here I Come. Right. Has wrapped filming, but will not hit theaters until April 10th next year. Oh, man.

So much, a lot of stuff's going to leak between now and that, huh? But why? Seems like they'd be able to have that ready by October, right? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how studios work anymore.

They're putting it out for my birthday. You'll hear something cool coming out, and then they'll slap like 2028 on there. Yeah. Then you're just like, well, I even remember it by then. It's Samara Weaving. She was like, that's Phyllis' birthday. That's when we're going to release it.

And I'm like, thanks, babe. Samara Weaving and Catherine Newton. Yeah. Yeah, there you get. I play Lisa Frankenstein. Oh, okay. You guys might make a thruple, Philip. Hey, I'll take it.

I'm not bad at that. My wife might not be too bad. How bad can she be? And last bit of news we're going to talk about, we're going to leave off a light note. Did you guys know they are rebooting attack of the kill of tomatoes? All right. That's news to me. Well, again, how bad could it be?

And the cast that's already attached to this, David Ketner, know him. He's always good. He's always good. He's from Anchorman. Sure. Champ from Anchorman. Oh, oh, okay, okay.

I like him. He was, yeah. He was great in a haunted house. Yeah, that's all you had to say, man. I like that guy. Let's see. Catherine Cochran, she was one of the girls in the original Terrifier. Okay. Okay.

Daniel Roebuck, who coincidentally was also in the Terrifier movie, he played Santa Claus in the third one. Hmm. Okay. And looks like one of the Aunt Vibs from the original Fresh Prince is also going to be in this movie. Okay. that was one that was one they were slick with they changed the actress out on that one

and I had no idea okay I got to I got to know though is George Cleeney gonna show up into a cameo since he was in the original as like I don't see why he wouldn't he's kind of just collecting his

residuals yeah talking a lot of politics What's that Casamigos? He's making all the money off of. That dude's probably making money, hand up, fist on so much shit. He also married a...

He also married a successful lawyer. Oh, well, all right. I think he should show up in his Batman nipple costume. There you go. Why not? You know what? Yeah. why not?

And we'll leave off Batman Nipple costume. All right. Okay. So now it's time for us to go on down to the trailer pod. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very,

very weird. What is our first new trailer tonight, Brian? The first and only trailer is a new series coming to the ever-so-peer. popular streaming app, MGM Plus, the Institute from Stephen King. That explains a lot. Okay. That explains a lot. Lance, have you read the Institute?

Absolutely. It's pretty, it's a pretty new book. It only came out about maybe three or four years ago. Oh, it's very fresh in my life. I didn't know that. Is this about the group from Firestarter that takes to children? Ooh. Kind of. they changed the name of it. It's not the same group that, you know, was in the Fire Starter and some of the other books.

But, okay. I mean, it's the same concept. Unfortunately, I don't know, man. When I was reading the book, I definitely got more of like a new mutants vibe sort of, you know? Yeah, this series was very X-Men meet Stranger Things. Yeah. that's good way to describe it.

You know what they should do is like a series based on like real MK Ultra shit because it's just as fucking weird. Hey, Scott, somebody's gonna be working on it right now, didn't you think? I would hope so, unless they're dead.

It seems too good to pass up, you know? Yeah. Anybody got anything to say about the trailer? I mean, not what I like superpower being kidnapped

by a secret government agency nothing nothing in the trailer Philip I was telling you this earlier nothing in the trailer is what I visualized in the book like the character the stranger who comes to town

and becomes like the the handyman at the institute or whatever that's that is not the grizzled character that Steve and he wrote in the book this is like a handsome young devil slav, wicked guy

it's oh, uh, actor Ben Barnes with the oil hair. I think he was I've seen him before.

Yeah, I've seen him before somewhere too. Was he an Ozard? Grisseld is not the first word that comes on. I think he was in one of the Marvel. He was in Black Mirror.

Okay. So he's probably British. He was in the Punish. shirt. He was jigsaw. That's right. Okay. The guy that was supposedly horribly disfigured, but he always got his scars on his face. They keep sticking this guy. Oh, the ugly guy, we're going to stick this dude in.

What did you think? Confidence. Well, Philip, you didn't read the book, so you're, you know, unadulterated opinion. What did you think, man? Is this something you want to tune into every week? Yeah, I mean, I'll, it looks interesting. enough to check out, but it does, it does look very stranger things meets X-Men. That was a perfect description of it.

I mean, there's like a, there's a scene in the trailer where like this kid is like controlling the water or something. Right. All right. That's a little weird. Yeah. I don't know. Brian, what do you, I mean? I'm

sort of interested in it. It kind of looks like something I've seen before. Yeah. I don't necessarily think I would get a subscription to MGM Plus to watch this weekly. Oh, for sure not. Probably wait until it all dropped and then see if I can get a free, free month or a free week and binge it all.

Yeah. Or just wait because an excellent show that was on MGM Plus, was that show from? From, yeah. If you just wait a little bit, they'll eventually put it over on Prime. So, yeah. I didn't even know NGM Plus was the thing, so. I didn't know it still was either.

Owned by Amazon. Oh, won't. Why don't they just? No, never mind. Never mind. Am I going to ask any of why streaming services do what they do? Money is the bill. Phillips.

Right. on the wall. Paramount Plus or CBS All Access. Yeah. The Bellwether. Yeah. Originally it was their own thing,

but then when Amazon bought MGM and bought their movie catalog, they got the MGM Plus app along with it. And for some reason, just continued. When are we getting the

when are we getting the James Bond? weekly series that we were promised. Whenever they figure out. Well, from last I heard is they got full creative control. They don't have to fuck with the original author on who to cast. They can cast whoever they want.

I think they're just looking for the right guy to carry the franchise. They should just put a different person in it every week. That would be kind of cool. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, why not?

Anthology type? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Because they always say in the movies, the 007 is a title. Yeah. They keep everybody else the same and just change Bond out.

I think that'd be ridiculous. Yeah, it may be kind of interesting, right? Have like a straight on comedy episode. Have a musical episode, a musical, a musical James Bond.

One hour. Oh, no. You can have all. you can have all the fan castings. You can have Eric Johnson, Henry Cavill, Idris Elba. Yeah. You can satisfy everybody.

I mean, Edress El is not a bad idea. And it's like an old James Bond. I think that sounds great. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's a bad idea. Right?

Make it happen, Amazon. All right. And, oh, back to the Institute. It comes out on MGM Plus. July 13. Who knows? Maybe they'll just drop the whole series

instead of due weekly. Yeah. Or I'm just going to wait until this. All three of the MGM plus subscribers. Yeah. Hey. All right. On to listener feedback.

This week we shot on the podcast spotlight on Horror Cinema Obsession, a podcast where host Richard and Angelus. Angelus. and headness, I don't know, delve into a world of horror films exploring both classic and modern scares, along with hilariously horrific.

They discuss the genre's best and worst, offering passionate commentary, cultural insights, and a touch of humor. I'll take it. Horror cinema obsession. Horror cinema obsession, all right? Oh, here we go, creditor, killer of killers. Pat Caruso says, can't wait to watch this. Check it out.

Yeah, I'm going to go watch that. What is that on? Hulu. Hulu. Okay, I'm going to check that out. Definitely watching that. Is it like, is it a movie or is it a series? It's a movie.

Oh, definitely watching that tonight. Let's see. In regards to, I know what you did last summer, the remake. I'm not excited about this one, guys. Greg Edward Siddon says, awesome. Eddie Vas tag says yawn. I agree with Eddie. Let me say something about this Eddie Vashtag.

This guy constantly comments on all of our posts with the most negative shit ever. Well, that's what the internet is, man. He hates every. And that's why out of all the, because I appreciate all the followers, we accumulate it a lot on Facebook. But I'm able to remember Eddie Vashtag. because I'm sure when I see his name comment on something, it's to hate whatever I'm posting.

Oh, no. I'm going to hate on this one, dude. I do not want to see this movie. I don't know why they're remaking it. It's fucking ridiculous. Except Jennifer Love Hewitts pops up, so I'm like, all right, well, that's cool. But other than that...

I'm going to call it, this is going to be just as good as the original. Well, that doesn't help me. I don't like the original. That's it. Uh-oh. fucking mediocre movie. Oh, wow. Ah, that's just me.

What are you going to do? I got tired of that shit, man. In regards to Kate Siegel joining a cast of Flanagan's Kerry, Alex Carl says, what a surprising development? I sense a tinge of sarcasm. In regards to the black phone

two poster. Jason Hurth says that's cool. The look has the look of an older VHS cover. I wonder if that was intended or not. It's a badass poster. It really is. I hate to say it. I'm kind of getting excited for this movie. It looks.

It looks awesome. I hope they do something cool. Is that weird? Yeah, it was in the trailer. Huh. Okay. Well, I'll give it a shot. Yeah, it looks super weird. but like I'm liking this Ethan Hawke as a

like horror icon guy I think that could be a cool thing you know that guy does not like horror movies oh really yeah not because they're bad or anything because he says they scare him too much to watch him ah

come on he's saying that to hype the movie yeah if he'd uh if he did done the Gattaca experiment they wouldn't scare I guess that was a bad job I mean, sorry. Think about it.

He has not done too many horror movies and the ones he does. Mostly have been with the same director. Yeah, I guess you're right. He has a lot of, like, indie type stuff. Yeah.

But that's kind of why I like him because he's like a legit actor. You don't see him in a ton of things. He's, I don't. I'm stoked with him. You guys ever seen him interviewed, like on the,

the late night shows and stuff like that? The only one I could think of. I've seen one where he got interviewed with his daughter. And they're like very similar in their, the way they view acting and movies. The interview I saw it, I can't remember if, I think, I don't know if it was Stephen Colbert or,

I think it was Stephen Colbert. He's, like, super spiritual. like very Buddhist, very Hindu. He's like, you know, super centered, you know. And it's like, this dude's talking this kind of wisdom. It's like, I was kind of impressed with it. Now, does he really practice that? I don't know.

But he sounded good. You got to do something to stay centered in that fucking hillhole they call Hollywood. To make it that long. Oh, yeah. Remember, who was the Lakers coach, right? called him, not the Goubrew. Fuck, the Lakers coach that was

that was really in Bill Jackson. Yeah. Bill Jackson, that's right. Yeah. He was like a really powerful Buddhist, right? Yeah, fantastic coach, horrible GM. Yeah.

I'll see how fun. I guess that was outside of his Dharma, you know. All right. And we got Jason Hearth. He said, oh, no, all right, that was already read that. In regards to the Omen, Mike Prezaris, says the trilogy is so underrated. I agree. You know what?

It's been a while since I've checked out the Omen 2 and 3. Right. Rewatch them. Yeah, I think the third one, isn't it a Sam Neal? It's a adult. Yes. That's right. The final conflict.

Yeah, the final conflict. He's the president, Brian? I think he's. He has some kind of political position. Yeah. He's like almost the president, I think. But I can't remember. A heartbeat away from the president, as they say.

Right. And in regards to new Jurassic World entry, Cameron Sullivan says Hollywood is still out of ideas. I don't care. The new one looks fun. Does it? Really? Yeah. Looks like they're going more.

Looks like the, I'm sure this one will be the better one out of the new ones and no one will probably watch it. Because that's usually how it works. Yeah, they've had kind of a downward trajectory. Yeah, I just like they went with a newer cast. Yeah. Instead of just trying to, that last one, I couldn't even finish it because they brought Chris Pratt. Yeah. Price Dallas Howard back and then try to bring back.

the original cast from the first movie. Oh, God, that was rough. Yeah, that's right. They had like 10 different stories going on at once. Yeah. Just give me some some cool action with some dinosaurs of people.

But not your made-up bullshit dinosaurs. Like dinosaurs are weird enough on their own. Right. Don't invent ones. All right. Well, that's it for listener feedback. Our intro and

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Shock Week, 2025. Okay. We'll start with the Shark Night 3D. I did not realize it was a 3D movie. That makes a lot of sense. There was a lot of moments in there where I was going, whoa. You guys remember that was a big thing there for a minute. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Final destination, remember? Yeah. A weekend at a lake house And the Louisiana Gulf Turns into a nightmare For seven vacationers As they are subjected to shark attacks

In the lake Director is David R. Ellis Also known for cellular Hey, and Final Destination 2 Damn, what the hell? Yeah, the guy is kind of a horror returns All-Star. Yeah, yeah.

I think he did another Final Destination movie too, so we these yeah these last four movies yeah uh writers are will hayes and jesse studenberg not eisenberg uh okay this is this was director david ellis's final film uh on january 7th 2013 ellis's body was found in the bathroom of uh his hotel in johannisburg south africa he was preparing to direct kite at the time no cause of death has been released however police say no foul play was suspected

how old was he how old was he either foul play or drugs you know there's not a whole lot of reasons you end up dead in the hotel room he was 60 years old 60 yeah dude that's

I mean my dad I'd super young, but he was 68. Yeah. 60? That's just a few years from how old I am now. Oh, I don't, just popped in my head because of age. Yeah. Probably should have brought, this is not horror news. Space Boss 2 was announced.

Ah. Oh, yeah. Okay. With 98-year-old Mel Brooks returning as yogurt. Holy shit. I didn't even know he was still alive. Jesus. Wow. The age thing just popped it in my head. I was like, 98? First of all, you're right, Phil, when they said Mel Brooks is returning.

I was like, he's still alive. Yeah. And then they said 98. Like, good for him. Holy-eight, and you could still. I heard Rick Moranis is coming back for that. Yeah. So I'll take it.

I don't think he's 98, right? No. But he's been out of acting for a minute. He still looks the same, a little, little thin on the hair on top, but he still looks exactly the same. Well, that's all right. He always kind of looked like an older, nerdy guy. Not much has changed. So are they going to, oh, I'm sorry.

Yep. Are they going to tie in like the new Star Wars movies and make fun to them? Yeah, they have to. It's a spoof movie. They have to. a floating princess vespah out in space they're going to have some kind of Mary Jane character that pops up and just kicks everybody's ass yeah

all right sorry that that news just popped in my head oh that was fun now back to shark night Brian would you think about this one this movie was fucking dumb yeah it was this is the dumbest fucking premise I keep saying it all the time

I try to be positive with these movies but this movie is fucking dumb the characters were fucking stupid they were all unlikable I don't like Sarah Paxton's face oh no she has a stupid bewildered look on her face all the time

there was a couple fun characters like the guy for Avatar the tall skinny dude sure is also a not dodgeball oh yeah I think he was a bad I think he wasn't dodgeball. Grandma's boy. Yeah, he was the robot guy.

Yeah. Oh, he was. Wasn't he? Damn it. I knew I'd seen that guy a lot. Obvious villains was the guy that the good-looking guy that was supposed to be horribly disfigured

with the two scars on his face. I know. Look what you did in my face. I'm like, which they could have cast somebody else because he did not fit with his friend. The been a near, near, near, near, that guy.

Did he have filed down teeth? What the fuck is wrong with that? He has something going on with his teeth. And you can clearly tell that Donna El L. Loeb, the sheriff was also involved. Everything was predictable. The death scenes were horrible. Pretty off screen, for the most part.

Off screen. You could have had something fun. If I saw this. Fee got eaten, sort of, by little bitty sharks. Yeah, a little bitty, what they call them, cookie cutter sharks. Yeah, that was the most not

terrifying thing I've ever seen. Right. And there never was an explanation on why these guys were collecting all these sharks and feeding them people. Just for kicks. Because his face was fucked up. The Louisiana Swamps.

Yeah, it was kind of a revenge. That's a long way. to get revenge on one person, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Was that why? Was that all all these years leading up to hopefully she'll come back one day? I think so, Brian. I really do. I think Phil nailed it.

I think Phil Nailed it. I hate everything Sarah Paxson's in. I know, dude. Well, it goes back to the replacements, dude. Pain is temporary. Chicks dig scars and glory lasts forever. There you go. And you got this.

fucking Fabio looking bitch with a slice on his face and I'm just being good for life I can't believe it's stuff but did you guys watch out the after credits no no I didn't know did I miss something awesome

they did a fucking rap video the cast oh Jesus now I don't know whether to give them points on my score because they had the balls to do this. Right. Or take away points because it was the fucking cornyest, dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Of course it was. So I'm going to have to really think about this score because this movie was rough. And I would have been mad because I did watch this when it originally came out in, what, 2011. I didn't see it in the theaters. I watched it when it was available. I'm amazing. to the theaters. But I would have been

fucking mad if I saw this in theaters thinking this was going to be 3D because there's barely any moments where yeah, oh, this would have looked cool in 3D. There was like what the boat explosion. Yeah, I was to say we're on the jet ski and the shark is jumping

at him, I guess. I guess. It was a dumb scene to begin with. They just really, really missed the mark. could have just had some really fucking fun death scenes. You could have just kill everybody

because they're just unlikable characters and just have everybody die in interesting ways. And he teased the main villain, the good-looking scarred-up, horrible, disfigured guy, teased that he had like, what, 49 different species of sharks and what we saw like four? Yeah, right? and one of them was those little bitches.

And then the hammerhead. Is that a real thing? Hammerhead. Hammerhead? Cookie cutter sharks. Really? Oh, yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, hammerhead is real.

And I glowed in the dark, didn't they? Yeah. That would have been, I ain't got a lot. That would be pretty cool to see. Yeah. Right. Not in the water, but. But they're little.

Dude, sharks don't really fuck with you. Well, you got to just do like that Holly Berry shark movie when she said you just got to punch the nose and they'll leave you alone. That's true. Yeah. Stick your finger in your eye. But yeah, there's nothing really redeeming about this movie. This was, I thought this was

going to be a fun rewatch, but I must have been thinking about a different movie. Well, there's a lot of shark. Shark Nato. Yeah. It was sort of a Sharknato-ish movie. I've never been able to get the idea of those. I know, they're tough. They're bad.

But they're on purpose bad. I think that's why I can't. I respect so good it's bad. So bad it's good movies when they really try. Yeah. But when you purposely are trying to be bad, it just kind of comes off kind of cringy. Yeah, that's true. It loses a lot of its charm, right?

It's like hitting you over the head with it. I agree. but shot night 3d cannot recommend all right Lance what do you think I don't know man this thing was like super boring at first and I was looking at all the posters for it they're terrible because usually I like to

you know you guys know that like we sometimes we go on Facebook and we post what we're watching just in case a couple of you know people that follow the podcast or seeing what we're watching to get a clue for what's coming up for the week I couldn't even find what worth posting.

Horrible, man. Almost like they looked hand-drawn or something. It was really bad. And then they showed this cast of characters to be any, do I have this confused with the different movie, or is this the one where they were, like, playing video games in the college dorm or something? And one of them said, I'm going to study, man.

And then I guess, oh, well, then you're going to lose all your points because I got you logged in. Was that this movie or a different one? Yeah, that's this movie. Okay, I forgot that part. They try to give her all the stereotypical characters. He clearly was the smart, nerdy guy that is trying to go to med school, which conveniently comes into play later. Of course, of course.

Yeah, the chicks were all, I mean, they were kind of hot, but not enough meat on the bones for me, man. I like a little wiggle with my women. These chicks are flat as well. flat as a board man i mean the one what was her name McPhee or something like that she was kind of cute i guess you know what was she on american idol or something yeah she was an american idol chick and then she was on right perfect my wife loves those okay i there was a weird scene where they're trying on their bathing suits and they're dancing right because they're about to try on their bathing suits and they turn around that was terrible for what reason i don't know other than to not be nude on camera

I know, and then you get the side boobs, sort of, with their hands there. That was, that pissed me off too. But, no, I'm with you on the, what's her name, the Sarah chick or whatever? Sarah Paxton. Very irritating, right? Super, super irritating. And what else is she been? The guys were all irritating.

She's been in. I've seen her in some stuff. The last house on the left, which was a good movie, but it wasn't because of her. The innkeepers, which I think is the. a good movie. I think it's boring. That was the Thai West that I like, man. The super slow burn Ty West, like that one

House of the Devil. Oh, she was in Barbarian. That was my type of her voice was in Barbarian. Okay. Fair enough. Hey, yeah, it's Yeah, her voice was in Barbarian because she's married to Zach Krueger,

the director. Well, that'll do it. There you go. Okay. Yeah, and they get to the house and, you know, hanging out at the pool and they do some scenes like you were talking about the take bathing suit thing and covering their boobs. And then you have the scene where they're all, like they got a montage where they're moving the film fast. It's like, why are they doing this? This is terrible. And then they get the lake and it's like sharks and then the one dude that's like, that's like, that's not. actor, I don't think it was like flipping when he was skiing.

Like hit the wave and then he'd flip over twice and they land perfectly like a 10. Well, that's just to show you he was a super athlete. I guess. I was yelling, now do a backflip and he does like three. He does like three. Yeah, one backflip. Fuck you. Yeah, it's rough stuff, man.

And then they meet those two guys at the, you got to have the little store, right? You got a little gas station. you got to have the hillbillies you got to have the teenagers buying liquor and you know all those beats and then the one dude watching the chicks in the bathroom

why are you going to watch you in the bathroom taking shit or something I mean I'd rather watch them like having sex I gotta say they party lame they got one bottle of vodka made no sense right

made no fucking sense. You guys are going to be there a weekend. Yeah, right? That's not going to last. I don't know. These guys, I think you might. But the twist. Oh, my God, the twist.

They were stocking the lake. I mean, is that, and literally just to get revenge of one person, Brian, is that, did we all read this correctly? Are we missing something? Philip, you better take it over, dude. I'm running out of steam here, man. I don't know what else to say. it was the it was the dumbest reason i i bought the original reason that they thought you know

during hurricane season the overflow sure like shark data you know sharks could wash in well because that really that really happens there's been like sharks that end up in the great lake because they swim up swim up the mississippi yeah that see i would go with that not that this guy is the world graded shark hunter and he's got like multiple species that he's just capturing and then making snuff films about sharks. Yeah. You paired it well. I kind of had fun with it a little bit when they first did it,

but then I was like, you know what, the more I think about this. And then that one scene with the chair hanging over the water, and how did he get that lighter to, did he throw the bottle of vodka in the console? I'm lost here. How did he get that big fire?

I don't know, but it was all on fire. And then like the next scene, it was all out. I was like, wait, isn't this place burning bad? My score goes down a point every time Brian brings up a new point. Yeah. I can bring up how inconsistent the characters were because the male model, nude model, was super conceited into himself.

When the one guy, the black guy, the athlete gets hurt. All of a sudden, he's like the most. comforting emotional guy there is. He was like, we've got to get my friend some help. Yeah. Right. They did kill that one shark. That was pretty cool.

Yeah. I'll give him credit on that one. Yeah, that was pretty badass because he said where I come from, you take one of mine, I take one of yours, and he was standing on business. But I don't know where he got all that energy from because he lost a lot of blood out of severed arm. Yeah, no kidding. Might not have been the smartest thing.

No, definitely not. Yeah, this was, I like the guy that plays the sheriff. He's usually... Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sure. He was in a lot of the Batman movies and stuff. Yeah, he's been a lot of stuff.

I usually like him. But yeah, this movie was trash. It was like they tried to do shark nato thing and then like put it on the big screen and make it in 3d and that's that's about as far as they got in the in the planning face not great all right i want to be scores on this one and that's the name of that too right yeah brian what do you think because because they had the balls to make and put out that music video after the credits. Right.

Because every one of the main cast had a verse. Oh, no. I guess I got to go rewatch. I'm going to give this movie a two. Out. Lance? Two. Yeah, I think two is across the board.

I watched the, I watched Dangerous Animals first and they came home that night and watch this one, and I was like, oh, wow, this is bad. All right. But on to our new movie, Dangerous Animals from 2025. And this is going to be, this is going to be just you guys. Too much family in town and shit. But I'm not really worried about. You got to check this one out.

So I'm listening. Okay. Much better than the one we just talked about? Absolutely. Okay. Me and Philip could have acted out a shark movie and it would have been better than shark. With sock puppets, right? When Zephyr, a savvy and free-spirited surfer is abducted by a sharp, shark-obsessed serial killer and held captive on his boat, she must figure out how to escape before he carries out a ritualistic feeding to the sharks below.

directors are Sean Byrne, also known for the loved ones and the devil's candy. That was a great one. Mm-hmm. I don't know if I ever saw the loved ones. It's the one where the kidnap the guy, the father kidnaps the guy

because his daughter wants to have a prom. Oh. And they got them all tied up and they're torturing him and having a weird fucked up prom at home. Huh. I don't think I ever saw that. That sounds pretty decent, though.

It's a good one. Writer is Nick Leppard, also known for Keeper. Director Sean Byrne instructed Jai Courtney to spend time at aquariums, getting very intimate with sharks and their habits as he did in preparations for this movie. I know, that was probably pretty intimate. He's weird. Tucker guesses that Heather is a palm after he's, hearing her speak.

Palm or Pommi is Australian slang for a British person. It's short for pomegranate and is debated whether British people were called pomegranates because they turned as red as the sun as pomegranates. ate a bunch of pomegranates to prevent scurvy, similar to the nickname Limey, or if the term is Australian rhyming slang with the word immigrant. The more you know. all right Brian what you think about

about this one dangerous animals I really like this one I liked the main girl what was her name Hassee Harrison I like she was the type of final girl that just from the minute

she got captured she was trying to figure out a way how to get out she never stopped thinking of like how can I get myself out of the situation and she was constantly checking her surroundings, noticing things, watching him. I really enjoyed that.

And also, Jai Courtney, I think this is probably the best thing I've seen him in because he was a fucking psycho and he played it perfectly. He made the damn baby shark song creepy when he started singing it and dancing, holding hands with them. I was like, no, don't do that.

I know. I wrote that song. I like the, not a spoiler because it was in the trailer. I like the idea that he is using sharks to murder people because essentially he's a serial killer. I like that. And just the way the movie was shot, it was shot great. Cinematography was great.

The suspense that was built up was good. And yeah, I can't really find anything bad to say about it. Yeah. I think without Jai Courtney, this would still be a pretty decent movie. But man, he makes it. This is his lane. He needs to stay in the psycho villain role. I know they tried to make him a thing there for a while and it wasn't really working, but this is where he belongs. his performance is really what did it for me like his dancing in the underwear scene was oh with the with the bathrobe was fantastic yeah it was like I never thought I'd hear this about Jai Corphe I'm telling you it was like Buffalo Bill dancing

and tuck in his wiener even though he didn't do that but that it was It was still fun. Just the whole idea of him dancing in his underwear in a bathrobe and he's got he's got girls handcuffed in another room screaming. Yeah. And he's just got the music turned up and he's just in his own world dancing, drinking his hand,

so celebrating. Yeah, it was great, dude. He killed it. Yeah, I mean, I thought everybody else did pretty well in this movie too. I didn't really have any complaint. about it. It was way better than I expected it to be. Super impressed.

All right. Well, I guess we can do scores and go into spoilers, huh? Yeah. What's your score on this one? You know what? I'm going, I'm going to go ahead and give it a solid eight. Damn. There was one major reason that I can't give it a higher score, but everything else I fully enjoyed. And yeah, like I said,

I can't find too many things that's bad to say about it. Jai Courtney knocked out the part. Hassee Harrison knocked it out the part. There's a good combination, good chemistry between them. They worked great on screen together.

Yeah. I think my only complaint is it maybe got a little bit repetitive with her like escaping and then not getting escaped. But we'll get more into that and spoilers.

But yeah, I'm going to give it an 8 too. I think this is probably going to make my top 10 list. It's a good movie. All right. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Yeah, he plays the psycho character really well. He films all his murders. On like an old VHS camera? VHS camera. He takes a lock of hair.

He makes little fishing lures out of them. And then he tapes him very lovingly to the outside case of the VHS. And then it reveals, when he puts it out of, it gets revealed that he's murdered many, many, many women. yeah like fucking 30 of them at least dude it's the shitload of videos wow out where nobody can catch him yeah well and if they just die from a shark attack

you know who's that he kind of our Hassee Harrison's character is essentially she's what do you call him Transients yeah she's like a little vagrant lives in her yeah lives in her band just kind of goes wherever she wants surfing wherever she wants

So he kidnapped her and nobody's even looking for her. Well, the guy she meets that gets pussy with like the first night he meets her. Yeah. And she's looking for her. She dips out on him. After she makes a real connection the first night kind of gets freaked out. And then like leaves first thing in the morning to go surfing. And then that's when he gets her.

And then the dude goes to the beach. and Caesar van there, but he can't find her. And so he's the one kind of following along the whole thing. He goes to the cops. He's like, I don't know her last name. Zephyr, she lives in a van. Yeah, Zephyr. I can't believe she passed up those pancakes.

I'm telling you. He made a whole, at least it looked like at least ten stacks. Oh, man. I made some pancakes this morning. They were good. but yeah I thought the the blood and the violence was pretty awesome

they they zoom in right on the shots when they're when they're getting like shark attacked and uh man and he uh he's he's got Gai Courtney's got a lot of speeches in this movie where he like just kind of lays it all out and it's pretty great definitely serial killer type

It almost says like a good version of shark night. Kind of similar. I mean, I didn't realize how similar these two movies are. I mean, they're both using... They're both using sharks to kill people. But it's just he, when he's on screen, he owns it. Yeah, with his facial expressions, his mannerisms. That scene when the dog's barking at him and he's on,

chasing the dog away and the dog was like, oh, I'm fucking out of here. This guy is crazy. But I do wish, you don't care, you don't care about full spoilers, right, Lance?

Not at all. Not at all. I mean, I'm getting watched this. I wish he hadn't had died. Okay. Yeah. Oh, well,

maybe he didn't. Maybe he didn't. I mean, if the movie does well. But see, it was hard for me to. That's part of the reason I didn't, I didn't see it.

guys, it was only on a couple of times here, and it was like, times just didn't work out. It wasn't like a major release, not here at Melbourne, Florida, at least. Well. So his story is like he got bit by a great white when he was young, I guess, and escaped it. Mm-hmm. And then so he's had this, like, fetish with sharks ever since. And then the very last one where he's, where he's like, he's, like, he's,

been foiled three or four times at this point trying to kill this girl. And he finally finds this little secluded spot and starts dropping her in the water and it's a great white. And she ends up getting the upper hand on him and he ends up going in the water and the great white eats him. Yeah. I mean, as well it should be. Yeah.

If he survived, there's not much left of him. Yeah. He's going to look a lot worse than the Fabio guy from the last movie, huh? come back looking like cyborg because I'm not necessarily would have wanted to franchise out of this but like just one more movie with him because he was just so good

as his character I kind of like that it was a one and done thing but I think they definitely need to cast him in more of these roles yeah I think he opened up his possibilities wide a bit maybe maybe they'll do

cast to begin as the same basic character but the set of sharks it'll be kangaroos or something. Like he takes them out and they all get beaten and kicked by kangaroos or whatever. Yeah. When John when John Corky plays Australian, he nailed it.

Yeah, another bad guy he played Captain Boomerang. Fantastic as that character. So he, maybe he just needs to play villains. I think that's it. I think that's his lane. Australian villain. That makes sense. Cast him in that and he'll nail it.

Cast him in a new. they're supposed to be making another Wolf Creek movie. That's right. Oh, he'd be perfect then. Maybe this is his, maybe this was his, what would you call it, like screen test for that, right? Maybe.

Yeah, it's like when they force him to do an American accent, it takes too much of his focus or something. I think that's it. Yeah. Well, I mean, not a lot of twist. attorneys, right? It's just kind of straightforward. Yeah, she... It's all in the delivery from the actors, it sounds like.

Yeah, she ends up escaping three or four times, and he, like, catches her. And, uh, like, at one point... At one point to get out of the handcuffs, which seems a little unnecessary, but she like, like, bit her thumb off to get out of the handcuffs. Which was kind of awesome, but... Fucking hardcore. Yeah. because you got to

you got to be in a certain mind state to chew your own thumb off and then she leaves it for him to find yeah she was just like I would this is how I escaped yeah right and then she like kicks his ass again halfway through the movie and she's got like

she's missing a thumb on one hand sure it sounds pretty awesome from two to eight tonight huh what a what a night All together we got a 10. All right. Well, thanks for carrying the movie, guys.

Whatever we do next week, I'm going to watch them all. Oh, we have to. That's right. Okay, so we get out of the way. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. You know where to find us, Thehorterns.com. Send us an email. Thehorreturns at gmail.com next week.

So exciting, guys. Heather Powell, our patron, this is her picks. We've got Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey. Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey, too. And for what I understand, yet another good movie in a year of Good Movies, 2025. Peter Pan's Neverland Nightmare, from what I understand, this movie is surprisingly good. Can you speak to that, right? Yeah, I enjoyed it.

That's kind of a fucked up movie. All right. Good. Check it out. So it'll be a lot of fun. Hopefully Heather will be on with us. You know, she's, she's Canadian and we're American.

So, you know, hopefully we can join hands. Nah, I think she'll be on. I'm pretty sure Heather will make it. I know she has a busy schedule with all the gallivanting over to the UK that she does all the time and stuff like that. I have faith, boys, she'll find time for us. So until next week and until the horror returns again, Philip. Good night.