The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #476: Carrie (2002) & Carrie (2013)

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

We wrap up our Carrie retrospective. Cool of the week includes Ash, Ballerina, Dead Talent Society, and Ironheart. Trailers are Strange Harvest and Exit 8. The podcast spotlight shines on Fear Freaks. And we get feedback from Brian J Godsil, Anthony Cadiz, Mark Komarzynski, Eddie Vastag, Jack Burcham, and Michael Arnaz. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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I'm Lance. We got Brian. We got Philip. What's going on, guys? What's up? Man, nata-mucho. Same shit, different day. I'm hopeful that we don't have the internet draft.

I've got a new internet provider. It seems to be working out really, really, really well. They must be having a lot of trouble with that AT&T air service, which is basically kind of like a cellular Wi-Fi. I don't know how it works, but she didn't even try to argue with me or get me to stay on board or anything. She said, oh, you want to cancel? Okay, fine.

Take it up to the EPS store. Next. So they must be having a lot of trouble with that technology. But glad to be back on K. What do you guys use for internet out there? I got an expenny. I got a local company, but it's like, what is it? Like that fiber optic.

Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, you're set, man. Yeah, no kidding. I was talking to a dude with Starlink. He said it was pretty good. Yeah? Yeah. He uses it on his boat, though, so.

Oh, wow. That makes sense. He can't escape. Like if you use it for work or something, that kind of suck, right? Because you can't get away from work. People fucking calling you and bugging you all the time. Yeah. I know that goes.

I'm sure you do, man. Your own call 24-7, right? No. Sometimes I just don't answer my phone. I was going to ask you, like, if somebody called, like, at 2 o'clock in the morning, and it was an emergency, do you go? Uh, I have a person. right.

Yeah, I have before, but not at this point. I just don't do it. I'll call them back in the morning. Maybe if it's the really hot neighbor and she's going to give you head or something. No, I had a guy that had a fire down the street, I guess, and he wanted me to come over on the 4th of July. I was like, yeah, I'm not doing that. Not a good idea. I'm already drunk and we got family over.

Yeah, there's that part too, right? Like if you're inebriated, probably not a good idea to load up all the tools and get in the car, right? Yeah. All right. Cool of the week. I got to think about mine. What do you guys have? I will go last because I went movie crazy this past week.

That's what we wanted to hear, Brian. You keep us up to date, man. Let me see. What did I watch? Ash. With Aaron Hall. Yeah, it was like a sci-fi horror thriller kind of thing, right? Okay.

Very, very trippy visuals. Yeah, super trippy movie that's like alien planet that they're exploring. And they figure out that it's being terraformed. So there is life out there. And then it's this one girl and she wakes up and everybody's, dead and then they have to figure out why everybody died. Spoiler alert, aliens. Okay. Thanks for letting us know, man.

I mean, that's not all that's, that's not all there is to it. But, uh, yeah, it was, it was all right. Yeah. I mean, I, you know, it's not winning any Academy Awards, but it was fun to watch. You don't, you don't think it's going to be up for any awards, huh? No. Yeah. I remember talking about it. I, I remember talking about it. here. I think you mostly watch it for the visuals. Yeah, it had some pretty cool special effects. I wasn't mad at it.

And, uh, you know, the breaking bad guy. So he did pretty well. Was he selling meth in space or what? He kind of looked like he was meth out the whole time. So probably was, man. Yeah. Method acting. Method acting. So is that it, Ash?

Uh, yeah, that's all I can think of this week, man. I've got a not so cool of the week. I, uh-oh. Yeah, I finished reading the new Stephen King book. And, man, it was a, it was a, it was a trudge to get through it, guys. It was, uh, he needs, he needs to let go of this Holly Gibney character. Like, he's way over using her. Like, all of his new books, either she's the main protagonist or she's in the story.

Like, even the outsider, you get like halfway through the outsider and you're like, hey, this is actually pretty cool. You know, new characters, what do you know? And then about halfway through the book, they're like, well, we can't figure it out. Why don't we call this private investigator Holly Gibney? Maybe she can figure it out for us. And it's like, oh, Stephen again, really?

Come on, man. So this new one's called Never Flinch. And I don't know, man. It's all over the place. I'd like to say it's mainly about a serial killer, but then they work in these religious nut jobs and at the end they kind of all meet. It's not a spoiler, probably, to tell you.

Because all the characters meet up in the end and the Stephen King stuff, the ones that are still alive at that point. It's kind of a mess. It's kind of a mess. I'm ready for him to move on from Holly. But I guess my cool of the week, I know you talked about it, Brian. Philip, I think you saw ballerina, didn't you? I actually have not seen that one yet.

Yeah. Brian, you liked it a lot, didn't you? Yeah, I just watched it last week. It's, uh, Anna Day Armist kicks ass all through that movie. Yeah. So if you like the John Wick movies, it's right in that, that lane. And it's a lot better than that, uh,

it's close to the John Wick movies than that TV show. They try to do about the Continental. Okay. Yeah, so that's a win, right? Brian, wouldn't you say, you know, getting back to basics? Yeah, I want to check it out. So we went from seeing Anna de Armas in a movie with Ben where he was eating her ass to now she's kicking ass. That's kind of cool.

What movie? Yeah, that really terrible one. I don't know, it came out three or four years ago. It was like I think she was cheating on her husband or something like that. That's when they were actually dating. Oh. That guy of fuck. Yeah, he does.

Oh. He really does. I do have another one once you get finished with this one. Oh, oh, bring it in, man,

bring it in. Uh, the accountant, too. Yeah. See, I thought it was fun. Yeah,

it was pretty good. And then, and then, like, the original one came on right after that, and that was a lot of fun. I like the,

I think I like the first one better. But, yeah. Okay. It was still good. It was, it was worth watching. Had you like a,

comedian, John Berthal He was funny, dude. Like when Ben Affleck gets out on the dance floor and starts doing his little ho-down. That's my brother. That's right. And he was like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. It was great.

And of course it ended in a bar fight, right? Yeah. As happens. But that was a fun one. Yeah, Ballerita was cool. And there was a certain character in it that I thought this guy's probably only going to be a cameo. but he had a pretty big role in it. I was pleasantly surprised.

And yeah, they pretty much brought everybody back. They kept the, I thought they kept the universe going pretty well. So I don't know. The way it ended, there may be another one. I think it's supposed to be a standalone movie, right, Brian? Yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised if we've seen that character again. Yeah, well, I'm sure they'll keep the John Wickaverse going. Yeah, they're supposed to be, supposed to be doing a fit.

one Keanu says he's down but he says you got to they got to come over the story to explain why he's still yeah he said and he said

he's his age is catching up with him and said his knees are not I can relate he's not quite as spry bouncing around on camera now he's almost 60 I think

I looks great for 60 but yeah You can tell by the way he moves He's not as young as he used to be Yeah, and those movies were coming out Like every other year So you know they were like He was just constantly filming those And he does majority of his own stunts

So yeah, ballerine is a good one We'll definitely check it out No matter what they're I mean hell they brought Dexter back to life right So maybe they can Bring John Wick back to life Hey, anything with Keanu Reeves in it at this point, sign me up. All in. All in. All right. What's you got, Brian?

All right. Real quick, since you did Matilda last week. I got to do my non-horror, my non-horror movie this week. Me and my daughter watched Lilo and Stitch. Oh, the remake one, the live action. Pretty fucking good. They had a lot of heart to it. They did the Stitch character right. The little girl was okay. pretty close to the animated movie. So if you love the original movie

and you got little ones, definitely recommend that one. I was thinking, like, as far as live action remakes go, that one looks like it could make sense. Yeah, I guess it took over Minecraft

as the top box office movie. It's almost out of billion. Really? Knocked off the chicken jockey, Philip. Yeah. All right, into other stuff. I got a not so cool to week real quick. To be original Great White Waters.

Okay. This would be a fun movie. It's about a cocaine shipment that gets lost underwater, and these people got to retrieve it, and of course it's in shark-infested waters. Of course. Copean shark. It's bad, and the sharks are.

laughably bad so I cannot recommend this one it's not even dumb fun either oh no they still can't quite figure out the CGI sharks yet they do every now again

like I thought dangerous animals I thought those sharks were pretty good yeah that one with Blake lively with the shallows that was pretty good shark pretty good one. But it's a to be original.

Yeah. What can you do? Well, they've had, they've had some good ones. Like the one you were talking about last week, don't feed the children. Yeah, but that was already made. Ah, okay. So they can't claim it as a to be original. All right.

Checked out Heads Estate with John Cena and Dr. Salva on Prime. Oh, I saw a preview for that. It looks interesting. It's pretty good. It's not bad action movie. It's more as a comedic action movie. John Cena plays the president of the United States. Idris Abba is the prime minister. Is that what it is?

Of England. And they're at the NATO meeting and they jump on a plane together, plane gets shot down because people are trying to kill them. And it's basically a buddy cop style movie with Idris. playing the straight guy and John playing the former action movie star turned president. Of course. John Cena is president, man. Why not?

We're getting closer and closer to idiocracy. I know, I know. So that was not too bad. I'm trying to catch up on some horror movies. So I pulled up a list of 2025 horror movies to see what I missed. and the first one I checked out was a desert. It's a little independent horror movie. Basically, this photographer is on a road trip.

He stops at a hotel, meets some weird people. Think that Brad Pitt movie, California. Okay, I love that movie. Where he meets people that you already automatically know he shouldn't even be dealing with at all. And there's some cult stuff. in there. It's not bad. I wouldn't call it horror, though.

I'll call it more of like a psychological thriller. Okay. I like that. The next one I checked out was iconic. This one I definitely wouldn't call horror either. It's more a psychological thriller also. It's about

an influencer who kind of goes into the deep end with wanting fame and what do the young people say? Clout. sure sure it gets to the point where she's kind of doing anything to to keep her name relevant and it gets to the point where you don't know necessarily if what's real and what's not real is just all in her head okay kind of think uh american psycho near the end sounds pretty cool really

did did the events really happen it's it's not bad it's it's well shot too for for independent movie. Iconic. Is it streaming on a service or you got to rent it? You got to rent it. Okay. Let's see.

Oh, another not cool of the week. The Old Guard 2. Oh, no. I was worried this one wouldn't be good. I thought about watching that one and was like, nah. The first one was such a surprise of how good it was

to be a straight to Netflix movie. and Charlize kicked a lot of ass. This one, they had a lot of good ideas, but did not execute on none of them. And then the big marketing selling point was a showdown with Charlize and Uma Thurman. And then when you get to the finale and the ending, you're just kind of like, what the fuck?

Uh-oh. What just happened? Oh, no. I can't recommend that either. but my cool of the week is going to be a Taiwanese horror film, horror comedy called, what is it called? Dead Talent Society. That's an interesting title.

Okay. It's about this girl. She's living in the afterlife. And then she starts glitching out. And then she finds out that her family's starting to move on. They get rid of, like, I forgot what it was. it was like some kind of certificate or diploma. So it was basically it was the token for her life.

And they got rid of it. Huh. And the only way she can stay around is she enters this contest called Dead Talent Society. Because in the afterlife, they're like celebrities, you know, the people that do like the hauntings. Like you see like YouTubers and stuff to go stay at like hotels or abandoned asylums and they get sightings of the go.

hosts and stuff. Mm-hmm. Those are the celebrities, like haunting people. I kind of like this idea. Yeah, the Dead Talent Society is basically a contest so you can be one of those people. And she doesn't necessarily win, but she catches the eye of one of the, like, hunters. And they take her on as a protege. Oh, wow.

I like this. Okay. All right. It is subtitled. Okay. For like 99% There is one scene where This American guy is

Checking out one of those videos Where you're supposed to see something in the background And that's the only English-speaking part But yeah, cool the week Dead Talent Society And it's on Netflix Yeah, I was going to say It sounds like a Netflix thing

They've got a lot of A lot of subtitled stuff They do Yeah, I'm going to check this one out. Appreciate the heads up, Brian, because you had to wait through a lot of shit to get to that, didn't you? Yeah, I was excited about the old guard

because I liked it so much. I liked the first one so much, and it just was a disappointment and I thought Great White Waters was going to be, like, dumb fun, but it wasn't. You were half right, huh? Yeah. I didn't...

I didn't remember enough about the first old guard to be vested in the second one, and I didn't really want to watch it again. All right. We ended up with a couple of good ones. So now I guess we'll move on to news. Are they starting to announce more headline stuff, Brian?

No, not really. I thought because Comic-Con is coming up in a week or two. Right. But it seems like a lot of big studios are not doing Comic-Con this year. like Marble's out, D.C.'s out, Sony's out, Paramounts out, Lionsgate. Why? From what I understand, it's money and timing.

They don't want to invest in money if they don't really have nothing really coming out in the immediate future or this year or not even close to being done filming. I guess that makes sense. Disney has their own. Oh, that's right. Yeah, D3 or whatever.

you know who could probably tell us if only he were around who's Nez because he doesn't miss a Comic Con. We could invoke the spirit of Nez. Nez, cool, the week. I'll be there in full force. Peace Society will be there, boys and girls. Tim, Daddy Nez. Cool of the week, Nez.

Oh, I finished the first three episodes. Marvel one, Ironheart. okay I know it's all done I didn't I didn't watch the end of it I didn't watch the first three episodes but

when it first came out I only went away from spoilers well I'm yeah I'm good but that's pretty it's pretty good I like what's happening

I know everyone's crying around about it already but they're crying about Superman and oh that's right already oh yeah I read some article

about how it sucked yeah Well, I immediately looked it up after you sent that Phil, and it has like an 83% on Rotten Tomatoes with over 200 reviews. I just thought it was kind of weird. This website that I've never heard of released their review, like, before the embargo was up and immediately took it down. Interesting. It was the Daily Beast, I think, is the one that did it. Yeah.

Yeah. I just thought it was weird that they released it and immediately took it down. Well, because I don't think they meant to post it because they broke the embargo. Or, you know, lawsuit, whatever. Yeah, there is that. I don't know. Dean Kane was crying around about it. I'm like, man, you're Superman still sucked anyway. Who the fuck are you?

Dean Kane, he wasn't even a Moby Superman. I know. Terry Hatcher's hot with you. Fuck, Dean. Right. The only Superman is Christopher Reeve, rest in peace. The rest of cosplayers. I hate the Dean Kane Superman.

I like Smallville. Yeah, that was a good one. Well, he technically wasn't Superman. He was... Superboy. He was Cal. He was Clark. Yeah, I know.

It was fun, though. It was a good show. It was hell of good. But, yeah, Ironheart, I enjoyed it. I think I need to finish the rest. I was thinking of going to Superman tonight, but I'm already tired. So I might go at 9 tomorrow morning in IMAX.

And I mean, I wasn't even juiced about the last Superman movie, The Man of Steel. I mean, I was fired up, but then I went in and I was like, what the hell was that? Yeah. And then all the next movies, the wonderful. woman and then the dawn of justice and then uh justice league well that first go around before the schneider cut came out but once the snider cut came out i was like oh okay i see what he was trying to do so i was i was all about it i mean but henry

cavill he was a he was a nice guy when i met him he's the one that told me he was gonna be superman i didn't even know who he was oh i knew he was a somebody we were in the elevator at the hard rock uh during comic con He was there piping up the Immortals. And I looked at him. He looked at me and went, hey, I said, I know you're a somebody, but I don't know who. Only does. Henry Cavill.

And whoever was with him was like, he's going to be the new Superman. Oh, really? Oh, right. There you go. That's pretty awesome. For the minute or so we were in the elevator. He was cool. Got a picture with him real quick, and Mortals wasn't any good.

Yeah. Oh, God. He's a good Superman, though. I think he was a great casting for that. I thought they all did their jobs. I thought they did good, but I wanted more from the Snyderverse, but I guess not, and we'll see what James Gunn has to do. I mean, I know a lot of people are riding his nuts, man.

I mean, not all the movies are good, but I have faith in him. I think he'll do something good. I'm glad they're not going back to, all right, he's a baby and we're going to launch him into space to Earth. Oh, yeah. We've seen that. Just get in there

and finally seeing a live-action crypto. That's what really got me excited. And as far as the kid playing Lex, he wasn't a kid. God damn it. So what kids playing? Neither is Nicholas Holt.

He's not a kid. He's got kind of. like 30 some years old. He's a kid. Gene Hackman. Come on. That's what we're doing for. Okay. All right. Yes, get out of air with Gene Hackman

and his wacky real estate takeover plans. We need their age. I mean, none of these kids. And Jesse Eisenberg, fuck him too. Lex. Damn. Shots fired, man.

Jesse Eisenberg was a dumb decision. But like, okay. I give you Jesse Eisenberg. Gene Hector is almost like the guy for, from stepbrothers playing Lex Luther. This is the breakdown.

Christopher Reed is Superman. Linda Carter is Wonder Woman. Dolph, one is the finisher. Nick Fury is David Hasselhoff. The whole is Louferino. Okay. And I remember Captain American name,

that one big buff guy. Do we just get on a time machine? Those are real, superheroes. I think your Gerald Lundgren Punisher. I think your geritol is kicking in, Naz. Adam West is Batman. I don't kill

with any of it. Of course. Of course. I'll agree on that one. Michael Keaton. But he was badass and what was the last one he was in? The Flash.

Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, he's pretty good. I can't speak for that kid, but, yeah, Michael Keaton, he was badass in the flash. I was all about it. I was like, man, that's what we needed. I mean, Tim Burton, man, love him or hate him. His best movie is Pee Wee Herman or Pee We's Big Adventure. Agreed.

Oh, man. That Pee We documentary, Tee We himself or whatever the hell was called? Oh, my God. Pride my eyes out. Didn't know a lot of his story, so that was cool to hear it. And I just knew him as peewee and all other small little movies he popped up in. But yeah, just waiting for Comic-Con now. I mean, we're going to be there all four days.

We're going to go down there on the 23rd. What's that? Two weeks from now? Or a week? I don't know. Right around the corner. Yeah, we'll be there. We're staying, I don't know, some hotel downtown.

Not any of the close, cool ones where all the stars are. We're like a mile away or somewhere. I don't care as long as I have somewhere to put my head and all the crap that I buy. I mean, that's fine. We're still, I don't know if we're going to drive or if we're going to fly because San Diego Airport. For those of you that are flying in, from what my friends are saying, they're doing construction. their gates are building a new terminal and everything is just all crazy in that engine.

So plan accordingly. And if you're driving, just take it slow. We'll get there and we'll party. So I don't know. I think we're pushing more of the driving. But Theo better come to my house because I ain't driving all the way to the coast just to drive back this way. I can just go straight down about eight hours. drive through the desert and the mountains and everything.

Be like Hunter S. Thompson. Well, not that bad. I hate that drive. Here to Vegas. Middle of nowhere. But we get to do pass through Tonapal for the clown motel for you clown seekers. That place is weird. You guys know what I'm talking about. Right around Bat Country.

Yeah, but... I filmed some videos there, so I go to the East Society TikTok page if you want to see those. And shout out to the guy that let us go in, one of the rooms. He was really cool. He let us go in there. And all the crazy clown motel movies they made, they're terrible. I mean, I'll give it to everyone that makes those movies. I'm not a filmmaker, but I...

No. I mean, it's like we can make one and call it the Clown Motel and throw it out there. But now I'm good. Tonapal, yeah, that's in the middle of nowhere. But that's probably like the biggest draw to that town is the Clown Motel. I mean, it's nothing spectacular. But to hear the stories that what that guy was telling us, man, it was creepy. So I was like, all right, cool.

and that cemetery that supposedly makes the hotel, the motel haunted, it's like right there, right next to it. Oh, man. Jesus. If you're standing in the parking lot, you could see the cemetery right there. And I walked over there and I was like, nah, I'm good. We were there during the day. And if you're afraid of clowns, don't go into the gift shop because it's wall-to-wall clowns in there.

just every little small figurine to big doll to a marionette to paintings on the wall. And yeah, it was, it was creepy. The room he took us into, I think it was called the trick-or-treat room. I remember you talking about that, Danz. Yeah, they were still painting it. So it was, and they were fixing it up. So we just got to see a little bit of it. And I guess on Halloween, they have a huge party down there.

He said there's always people there. There's celebrities and all the rooms sell out. So book your room now. I mean, that sounds fun, but he almost got me. He said there's a Friday of the 13th room. Right. Maybe. But I don't know, man.

It's just that drive there. If you guys have done the drive from Reno to Las Vegas, it's long, boring, and nothing. but a lot of tourist traps out there, especially that little alien truck stop. That's where they'll get Phil. They'll separate Phil from his money there. For sure. It's close to area with area 41 or 51 or whatever it is.

It's like, I guess, over the mountains. But there's a truck stop at the gas station and right behind it is the alien brothel or something. Okay. I definitely separate me from my money there. I pulled back there just to see it, and I'm like, no, I'm good. You can just feel the evilness back in. Yeah.

I mean, the struggle is real. Get your money. But, no, I'm good. I just bought soda and candy and left. It's looked at all the aliens. It's like latex and STDs. Yeah. There was one lady at the evening.

My wife said she was in the bathroom. Uh-huh. Freshing them. Doing a horse bath over the sink, huh? Yeah, she was getting ready for the next client. I don't know, man. It's crazy. But, yeah, man, it's spooky out here in the desert.

And especially here at the airport, I'm glad I don't do the overnight smart because too many spirits running around here. And I've seen my share and hurt all kinds of stuff. So a friend of mine that does ghost hunting or investigations or whatever, there's some, I guess it was an old, I don't know if it was a hospital or school or something on the end of the runway somewhere in this open field. They went over there and did some stuff. They had one of those ghost box things.

Right. and they were doing a live and they asked hey if there's anybody that has a question ask it so I typed in

are you guys safe and then so they asked the area are we safe here and if you're familiar with how those ghost box things were I guess it just it's like a

reverse repeater so the channel is changing constantly and when they asked that question something said yes and I said all right I'm good. I don't want to watch

anymore. But they say they were safe. Yeah. He said they were safe and I'm like, I'm like, no, I'm good. I believe it. I'm not watching that. Yeah, as well, it's going on here.

Listen to East Society and Brian and I's new shit. Fightful reflections. Yeah, you got it. We did job. Nailed it. We did jobs.

we did Friday of 13th and the old school fade the black. Oh, okay. That's a fun one. We got more. We were hinting around at having a jaws, not a jaws, not a shark, well, it can't be a shark week. I'm having like sharks go, and there's a bunch of crazy shark ones.

I do want to do, what was that one, mine? Oh, Ninja versus stuff. Yeah. That one and. Amityville Shark and Shark House or I don't know. There's so many films by the movie. There's only so many so many places you can put a shark. Yeah, I know.

You think, but then they keep coming out with these movies. Toilet Shark. Yeah, there's, no, that was Ghost Shark when it came out of the toilet. Oh, come on. I was just kidding. All right. I was just kidding. There is Amityville Toilet.

Of course there is. Oh, stay away from Sharks of the Corn. I sell down that. I will. I will. What about Great White, What about Great White Water, Nez?

You've seen that one? Never heard of that one. It's on Tooby, Nez. I've seen, Toobie, I mean, as much love as we give them, they need to give us some love. Give us a show on Tooby.

It's a lot. you can talk about shark movies and everything else but we'll go take an iPhone out and just film a fucking movie man they did it with 28 years later yeah one of us

could dress like a shark yeah there you did I went saw that for a third time with my son oh man man I like that ass man I like that one

yeah I still left with the same thing I mean I caught some more stuff I'm like oh cool so I'm excited for the next one so January well shit we're almost there already have to do the year somebody on the Facebook page

said 28 years later it was garbage well everybody has their opinion that one I would as like I said when I first saw it I was like that's all because I didn't know there was right too so I'm like

oh okay so yeah that's all was happening here Carrie all right Well, Brian was about to bring us some headlines, Nez. Well, I've been searching here while Nez was talking, and I can only find three things to talk about.

One, I think we already talked about it last week, but Mike Flanagan's carry series on Prime has begun filming. Yeah, we touched on it. Okay. Yeah, I think I'm about carried out. Let's see. Trauma dropped a trailer for Mr. Melvin, the recut version of the Toxic Avenger Part 2 and 3, as they were originally intended to be seen.

You would think Lloyd Kaufman would have done him the way he originally meant to be seen to begin with. He doesn't answer anybody. Come on. Well, maybe he was trying to maximize profit by splitting it into two movies. Yeah. Okay. Lloyd Kaufman is not a heavily censored person. I'm hoping they have something for it.

Comic-Con. Probably, right? Wasn't he there last year, Naz? He's always there. Well, since nobody's doing Hall H this year, because I don't know if you were jumped on at that time, there's Marvel, D.C.,

like several big studios aren't doing Hall H. The new Toxic Avenger with Peter Dinklage is going to do Hall H with a big presentation. Oh, yeah? Well, I'll try to get in.

I mean, maybe it would be easier. Maybe I can just walk in if there's going to be no big heavy hitters there. But at Dinklage. We got in a whole. I mean, not. Not during all the hoopla with the Avengers, Doom or whatever that. We got in there to see Kevin Smith when he was hyping up his new movie. the 430 movie

yeah we were okay that sounds like fun it was all right um we got in there for that and I couldn't even tell you the last time we were all in all age because that's

for those you that do hall age and sleep outside and I'm good because the longest I stood in that line to get in the hall age was seven hours and that was seven hours of con that I missed I only wanted to get in there

because of Metallica I had their movie, they're, right. Through the Never or whatever the hell that movie was called, that concert movie. Yeah. They were all there,

so I wanted to be in there for that panel. There was the last panel of the day, and it took me seven hours to get in there. That's cool. But I was like, no, I'll never do that again. One and done, huh?

Yeah, I'm hoping they do a screening for Toxic Manager down there, because I'm keeping my eye and all the trauma stuff or if anyone else knows anything before and shoot us a line and let me know because I want to be there for that. I mean, Toxic Avengers is my favorite trauma movie.

The first one. I own them all. I kind of made it to buy one every year. I think I have all of them now. But last year. Yeah, shout out to Uncle Lloyd, man, for doing that video. he was talking shit about you guys.

But not like... ...theirpren. Fucking terror programmer. No, I told him to. I said, hey, man. I said, I bought it. I said, dude, I love this movie. My friends don't.

So we have a podcast. Can you do a video? He was like, yeah, sure. That's awesome. Why not? He's cool. He's so cool. If none of you have met him yet,

go in your... wherever, whatever colony's at, he's go up, he's approachable, he'll talk to you, and he'll record whatever you want. And, I mean, he's, he's been in the business a long time. So he's a good guy. Love or hate trauma. I don't love all their stuff. I think it's some of those. Yeah, it's hard to it. Some of, some of it is just, it just is garbage. By design. but Lloyd Kaufman seems like a cool person Oh yeah

Very much Because I loved all the early 80s Troma And all the stuff that he was a part of And some of those movies My buddy lives and dies by trauma He buys everything that they put out Sex, Drugs and Horror movies

Hey James Gunn James Gunn man You know Yeah he started with trauma, didn't he? Yeah, he'd think he was a writer for them. Okay. You got to start somewhere, and then I'll look at him now.

He fucking made the new Superman movie and... Runs DC. Yeah. What other movies is the... Gardner's the Galaxy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's done a lot. That last one, I was crying my eyes out.

You weren't the only one is. Oh, I know. and rockets, dude. I didn't care for the second one, but yeah, that third one was good. Man, I didn't expect it to be sitting there crying. See, but even if you didn't care for the second one, it was a good movie. I only saw it the one time, and I left the theater.

Yeah. That was one with the ego, right? Ego the living player. Compared to a lot of the newer Marvel stuff, I was like, Guardian Zincarlaxie is a pretty solid series. Yeah. they need to bring back the new mutants. I know a lot of people hated it.

Did it the right way? I liked it. I thought it was good. I thought the cast was good, but who am I? Bringing back everybody else. Oh, yeah, that Avengers doomsday or whatever. I mean, I'm excited. Don't get me wrong, but do we need every single person that's been in the Marvel

universe in one movie? we saw that in end game i'll take it i'll take it i mean you know get the band back together the thing that has me worried is i keep hearing that even though they're filming now they had they haven't even finalized the third act uh-oh man i guess what's his name the kang conquer guy i guess they're johnathan majors oh they're they're not they're not gonna bring him back I mean, I was all excited for the the King universe or whatever they were calling it. What did he do again?

He raped somebody or something? He beat up his girlfriend. Oh, he beat up his girlfriend. I couldn't remember. Potato. There's some new fucking controversy on everything. Oh, yeah. Of course.

Of course. Domestic violence does nothing to laugh about boys and girls. But yeah, that was what I was. happened with all that. But, I mean, if they bring him back, I'm all for it. Because they had it all laid out, but then after all that, they had to scrap it and start over. I think, I mean, that was a good idea to bring back Robert Downey Jr., because that made all

the nerds and everything, the internet explode at Comic Con. So, oh, fantastic force coming, too. Yeah, we're going to be down there for that. you think it's going to be any good I like the cast so I'm excited I don't know if it's going to be good but I think it'll be the best one

Oh yeah Good point Brian Good point Love our There is that positive Right It'll be better than the last three Put together

Oh man Rest in peace to Victor von Doom Yep, that's right. Guy from Niptuck. From Niptuck, yeah. Dr. Julian, I can't remember his name. Yeah, Julian McMahon. Yeah, we just seen him in, what, the surfer?

He was the bad guy. He was the bad guy. Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh, that's in the trailer, dude. Come on. I don't even remember the trailer. I didn't see yet.

Okay. He's not a bad guy. He's just surfer. He's a good guy. He was good at Dr. Doom. those fantastic war movies I liked him? Oh, I made because of Nip Tuck. You guys haven't seen that show.

That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome, man. I don't know. I think he was sick. Okay, yeah, I better be quiet. I don't know for sure. He's not that old. Oh, man, I was like, man, I wasn't came out of nowhere.

Yeah, maybe it was cancer. I think Brian might be on to something because I read about it. I don't know why I thought heart attack at first, but... I'm looking it up just to be certain we're not. He slipped on a banana peel. Oh, geez. Yeah, he's bad ass and nipotin. Yeah, that was a good show.

I liked his partner, too, man. He was kind of the straight guy, and the other one was... Julian was always trying to get the tail. The other was like, we got to play people here. He did. Uh, good. No, go ahead, Lance. No, they moved from, I didn't like the show as much when they moved from, uh,

well, they moved to Miami, didn't they? From L.A. Nez or something like that. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, that last season, I think they just did it to get it. It was, wasn't very good. That's one I never really kept up with, but I watched a lot of episodes, and it was always pretty good. Yeah, someone brought it to work. You here, watch this.

I was like, what is this? And the other, the other, I didn't like him because he was the asshole in that Patrick Dempsey movie A lover boy So Oh wow

That's Hey we're in the time machine again Brian That's all I see is him All right Yeah Julian McMahon died from He died into sleep He had complications from cancer

I believe Ah That sucks About cancer Man It's She took out one of my buddies we'll figure it out one of these days

yeah I hope so or just switch our consciousness into robot bodies one of the other there you go speaking of that I watched mega 2.0 again all right Brian you said we had some other news

that was not good that's in my top 10 of what else Brian the only thing I can find that is anything we haven't talked about is what is it Jurassic World

with only a 50 Jurassic World Rebirth with only a 52% on Rotten Tomatoes has the biggest opening weekend of 2025 Why not? Yeah I didn't expect much

from that one. I still see it I mean I love Scarlett Johanth but I just I didn't rush out which makes I guess the box office makes her the highest grossing actor her.

Yeah. Okay. Why not? All her movies combined, it's like over like 1.5. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. That makes sense.

She's been a lot of good shit. Yeah. Yeah, I don't remember a lot of bad Scarlett Johanssen movies. Did you see Lucy? Lucy was good. Yeah. I thought it was okay.

I thought it was okay. It was fun. Better than Meggin 2.0. It's that stupid 10% of your brain thing. that always irritates me when they bring that shit up. Yeah, they had to say it. Well, I'll say this. Lucy was good, but the ending could have been better.

Aren't they making enough? Lucy 2.0. They're supposed to. Yeah, I thought they were making, yeah, 2.0. Spoiler alert, she turned into a flash drive. Right. Somebody's going to do something weird with that flash drive. you know it

oh I grew up oh I grew up on it yes what was that Megan Fox one last week um

subservience yeah I get in trouble we all agree we're we have a consensus on that yeah

I'd get in trouble we can't have those but man I don't know if these videos are true at one of those

electronic shows or whatever they had robots and guys were kissing them. I don't know if that was an AIV. Oh, there's somebody kissing a robot right now. Yeah, no, I've seen...

Probably Elon. The, uh, these, the, the, the, the, sex bots are getting kind of crazy. I mean, I've seen, like, the different faces and stuff that they're doing. And then, yeah, they just have, like,

these, these just sex dolls that are, like, very, realistic. I'm like, damn, all right, we're getting there. That's what I'm saying. The first robot for sure is going to be a sex robot. Realistic enough after a six-pack, right, Philip?

Yeah. I'm never that lonely. Is he got a sex robot? Dude. Sign me up. If somebody wants to start paying us thousands of dollars to do this show, then maybe. But as of now, as of

Now, oh, man, I'm a check-to-check player. Even though the welcome to the sex returns, those real dolls, if you guys have seen that movie, Lars and the real doll. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. They got, like, those things are kind of, like, crazy-looking at this point in a good way or a weird way. What is going on, right?

that movie yeah i mean i liked it i give it a seven i mean i enjoyed it but yeah i can't have megan fox in my house no it's bad news i mean that's i always wonder that like when people get like these super hot like opair babysitters to come and like live in their house i'm like how you know what their wife agree to that just just ask arno swatsunegga He went through all that. Well, see, and she wasn't even hot. She was just there. I know.

Yeah, see. All right. We're lost. Where are we? I forgot. That's the news. Sex robots. All right.

Okay. On that note, Nez, you ready to go somewhere a little more classy? And that would be the trailer part? The sex robot trailer part. Let's go. Brian is going to bring us. They've got the B-movie sex robots in that. Brian is bringing us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird.

What's our first new trailer tonight, Brian? Strange Harvest, a found footage horror movie directed and written by Stuart Ortiz. Synopsis is detectives are thrust into a chilling hunt from Mr. Shiny, a sadistic serial killer from the past who has returned, whose return marks the beginning of a new wave of grotesque otherworldly crimes. Tied to the dark cosmic force. Okay. I didn't get all that from the trailer, but...

Stuart Ortiz has done... Oh, you guys ever see the Grave Encounter movies? Oh, yeah, those are great. I think so. He's directed those movies. Okay. Yeah, they're found footage, ghost hunters, and then they run into, like, real ghosts.

It's great. Nez, have you seen this trailer? I think we lost Nas, man. I think he went to check on Megan Fox. Sex robots and he's out. Let me look at these sex robots.

How much these motherfuckers cost? All right. I will throw it to Phil. So it had a lot of like credentials popping up. I can't remember specifically what they said, but you know, they're always,

ah, best movie ever shit like that. it was the new the new something of horror the new jones or something or something yeah okay but and so i'm not i'm not buying any of that shit i mean we're talking about a relatively cheesy looking found footage movie man now yeah i'll definitely check it out i like that genre but uh is it going to be some fucking cinematic masterpiece like they're trying to make it out to be in the trailer? I'll check it out now knowing he did the Grave Encounter movies.

I thought those were pretty good, especially with the budget he had to work with. True. And I'm intrigued now that I know that he is incorporating serial killer with cosmic otherworldly things. Yeah.

Could be really cool or could be a mess. Yeah, because at first, before they threw out the supernatural part, I thought it was just going to be like a slasher thing. Right. And those get kind of old for me. But some supernatural stuff, I'm down. Yeah, I'm going to assume with him the synopsis saying he returns after years. I'm assumed that maybe he dies in the beginning.

Hmm. Okay. Could be. Flash forward years later, the killing start happening again, and people think maybe it's a copycat. Come to find out, it's the original killer, and that's when the cosmic supernatural stuff probably kicks in. Except it kind of just looks like a dude with a weird mask.

Kind of does, doesn't it? I don't know. I think they're trying to overhype this a little too much. I didn't get any of that out of the trailer, but I'll give it a shot. I mean, if it's like day 31 of 31 days, Brian, and I've seen 30 movies and can't find another 20, 25 movie, it might sneak in. Well, this is, I don't know if it's theater or VOD, but it says September 22nd. Oh, wait, that was a festival release date.

So there is no release date on this. Yeah, this one kind of has VOD written all over it, but we'll see. Yeah, for sure. that's what I was like man how many accolades you're going to throw out with a found footage horror movie do you know just put it out there

all right and our final trailer of the week well teaser is from what I understand based on a video game called the exit eight oh

okay psychological horror thriller mystery directed by Genki Karinarmar That's easy for you to say I am not going to go through this cast list

because I already messed up on the director synopsis A lot of Asian names Yeah a man gets lost in an underground passage He follows the guide through the passage But one after another strange things happened to him is this space real or illusion will the man be able to escape the passage

and I did after this a clip to the movie played after it and it was pretty creepy he keeps walking in the same looks like a subway he keeps walking through the same hall and he keeps taking a turn and this guy keeps with a briefcase

keeps walking past him and he keeps walking and the same thing keeps happening And then he, after the guy passes, he doesn't walk. He turns around to see the guy where he goes and he turns to go down the hall. And then when the guy turns around to continue walking, the guy with the briefcases in front of him smiling. Okay. So you saw the movie?

No, a clip. Oh, just a clip. Oh, I got you. Okay. Huh. So. In Dante's Inferno, how many circles of hell are there? Is there seven?

Seven circles, I think. Yeah. I imagine that has something to do with this. Yeah, I'm interested in, if there's a video game, I'm interested in playing the game. Yeah, me too. I'm more interested in the game. I was reading about it. It's like an endless loop, but you're in a subway tunnel the whole time.

But there's these anomalies that pop up, right? And you've got to make a record of when you see an anomaly, like something you don't normally see. The last time you went down the hallway type thing. I don't know how it would translate to a movie. I think I've I wonder if I've heard of this or not that sounds familiar though Logan might have if you haven't

yeah okay I'm gonna attempt this Genki Kawamura Does that sound right? Yes Janky Janky Ah Janky

Janky I'm I'm interested in the movie I like the type of psychological thriller type horrors like the whole aspect of him being lost.

The first movie that came to mind was, have you guys ever seen as above so below? I loved it. Yeah, and the catacums? That was a good one. Yeah, where they get lost. Yeah, I like stuff like that. So.

Yeah. I mean, it looks interesting. I mean, it seemed like a random movie for us to do the trailer on, but, uh, I was struggling to find it. Yeah, I figured. But I'm kind of down. This looks interesting.

I'll watch it. We could have did the new Red Sonia trailer that dropped today. Oh, who they pegged to play Red Sonia? I forgot her name, but the actress, though, was the main lead in Revenge. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. And I was going to have us review it. I was going to have us review it, and I watched the trailer, and I decided to have us to have not review it because the movie looks like garbage.

Oh, no. Well, it was supposed to be Rose. You remember back of the day it was supposed to be Rose McGowan, and I don't know whatever happened. Yeah, it was Rose McGowan and Robert Rodriguez directing. That would have been badass, I think. I was hopeful that that's what you were going to tell me, but, ah, anyway.

I was excited for it because I really liked her in revenge. I thought she was badass. I thought she did a great job portraying, because you know you got seen the movie she her character's one way and then makes a complete change later in the movie and i was like okay i'm down with it but i don't know if it was her acting in the trailer that just didn't sell me on her being this warrior princess type or if it was the fucking bad green screen background oh no well maybe it was one of those first trailers i i do, even though it's not a great movie, I do have a saw spot for the Brigitte Nilsen movie because

it was always on TV, even though they had Arnold playing not Conan, but Conan in the movie. Yes. So, I was looking forward to it, but that's how bad I thought the trailer was. I didn't even put it in the trailer part. Well, shoot. But real quick, what did you think of exit eight, Lance? I don't know, man. It looks interesting. Like I said, let me put it to you this way.

I was curious enough about it to look up the game. So, I don't know, there's been some pretty good video game movies lately, which is something we didn't get in the past. So I'm in, man, man. I'll give it a shot. Do you have a release date or anything like that? Yes, August 29th. I do think this is getting a limited theatrical release. Listener feedback.

All right. This week we shine the podcast spotlight on Fear Freaks. Fear Freaks podcast is a weekly horror movie podcast hosted by Braden Timmons and Destiny Faulkner. It offers a variety of content including reviews, discussions, commentaries, and live watch parties, all focused on the horror genre. Live watch parties. Yeah, sounds like a fun time. We ought to be doing that. What the fuck are we?

We're missing the boat here. Well, we need to find a good program. Well, that's true. Me and Phil, we went live for like 10 seconds. Yeah, and it fucked it all up. Yeah, there is that. There is that. We thought we were doing something.

I know. It was going to be the next big thing. They got our brother, they got our brother Bede from down under, hooked us up with a good solution. at least for now. It's working out great so far. Thanks, Bede. Thanks to Bede and Super Network. Yeah, and Super Marcy. Who should have? Super Barcy missed out. She should have been with us for sex robot talk. God damn it. Oh, yeah. I'll have to let her know what she missed.

That would have got interesting. I kind of don't know what that means why she should have been on her. She does that after Dark Show, man. Oh, I thought you'd say she had a soft core porn. Well, hey, Marcy, if you're listening. Let's see. In regards to the I Like It Spooky podcast, Brian Godsell says,

thanks for sharing. Thank you, brother. In regards to the dissent, Anthony Cadiz says, underrated. It's a great movie. Yeah. Man, I like it a lot. The sequel, not so much.

Right. Yeah. well, can't win them all. And in regards to Maxine, Mark Komarzynski says, I enjoyed Pearl Moore. And to me, this one was the third best out of the trilogy,

but it did submit Maxine as a badass, in my opinion. And I believe our good friend, Eddie Bashtag, commented on this post that he has no idea what this movie is. Oh. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. You know what I think. I think I like Pearl better too.

Yeah? Yeah, I think Maxine, if I were, I've only seen it the one time when we reviewed it. I just remember that I'm trying to make her redeemable. Yeah. And I didn't like that. It's like when they made the blind guy and don't breathe in the second one, they tried to make him.

Oh, that was terrible. Or Megan 2.0, Brian. Yeah. Let's just forget about all the people she murdered. Right. Yeah. And so my daughter, she did watch the original Megan again. And so I was kind of sitting in on that one.

And it's definitely a better movie. Very, very different. Yeah, I was thinking I might have been a little too harsh on it. I think I gave it a three. It's probably more like a five. Damn. Okay. Nez is converting you, huh?

no i still don't think it's a good movie and i don't like them changing genres i mean it's only the second movie they if this was like megan yeah four point oh then yeah let's let's do something different yeah understandable i think i just expected to really hate it and it wasn't a great movie it just i had a lot more fun than i expected to yeah fair enough man i mean if you enjoyed it I'm glad, but I just didn't. But, you know, teach their own. Teach their own. In regards to 2002's Carrie, hey, that sounds familiar.

Mark Komarzynski says, pretty good adaptation, much more faithful to the book. Although less popular than the Palma version. I always liked Angela Bettis, and she does a good job in this one. Right. Okay. All right. In regards to 2013's Carrie,

our boy Eddie Vastag says I like this one better than the original. Okay. Fucking crazy. All right. In regards to

the evil dead rise, Jack Bircham says this poster gives me old school 80s vibes and I love it. Nice. In regards to Psycho 3,

Michael Arnaz says Classic Okay I'm not sure if I remember what happened in Psycho 3 It's hell of good I'm with him There you go

I like the whole franchise Well excluding Yeah The remake Vince Fahman Yeah but I mean the remake wasn't bad It was just a

Right Like boy you can't get more remake than that Staring to Anne Hes's Butthole Did we do all four of those, Brian? Yeah. Okay. All right.

I know we did him. I know we did him for horror returns. I think you were on there. I don't remember. I know. I know I did the second one. I can't remember if I did. It's been a while.

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We're doing a Carrie remake week. We got the 2002 and 2013 editions. So we'll start with 2002. Carrie White is a lonely and painfully shy teenage girl with telekinetic powers who is slowly pushed to the edge of insanity by frequent bullying from both her classmates and her domineering religious mother. Director is David Carson, also known for Star Trek Generations and Witchboard, the TV series. Didn't know that was a thing.

The movies are good. Looking forward to the The new one. We know you are. All right. Writer is Brian Fuller, also known for Star Trek Voyager, Star Trek Feets 9, and American Gods.

Damn. All right. Didn't he do Hannibal? No. Was that Brian Singer? No. That's the guy that did X-Men movies. Oh.

Okay. We'll have to do our research. I'm getting my Brian. I'm getting my. Brian's confused, Brian? Which Brian was Brian that Brian did Brian and Brian? Was it the life of Brian? Or what was it, Brian?

Help me out here, man. I'm lost now. Not to be confused with Bran, right? From Game of Thrones? Well, here's some more compute. Brian, Brian Fuller added some more positive dialogue about religion after he was asked to do so by David Keith, not Keith David.

That's right. Yes, he was a writer for Hannibal. Oh, all right. Well, there you go. Heavy hit her, man. Again, look at the big brain on Brian. He did so, so that the film would not appear to be overtly anti-religion. One example is when Carrie makes statements about her own faith as opposed to her mother's views.

Sure. All right, whatever. All right. Nez, you want to start us out on the 2002, Carrie? Do you remember that one? the after school special yeah the after school special wasn't it yeah it was a TV movie

that makes sense it explains a lot for NBC effects were terrible I mean right no weren't blown away from the asteroids no no this is crazy I thought yeah

there was a lot of people in here you knew yeah so that was yes And David Keith, not Keith David. Always good to see him and pop up in anything. But, yeah, this one was, I saw it back when it first came out. And then it was on YouTube. So I watched it again.

And same, I mean, early 2000s, early CGI or whatever they were trying to do. And the main girl that was Carrie, she's, No, Sissy's Basic, but... No. Right? I was like, eh, okay. I mean, how many times are you going to retell this story? Now they're doing a TV show?

Come on. Who knows? Watch it be hell good. But I'm just saying, I mean... Well, with that, they're not remaking the movie. They're adapting the book. I'm good, then it. Yeah.

Give me a carry three, because Carrie to the rage or whatever that was great. That was hell good. Didn't everybody die? That one. In that one? I mean, who's left in the bloodline? Like a cousin we don't know about?

Probably. Long lost cousin. She died. She did she? I don't have to rewatch it. When's that 4K coming out? Finally. Probably pretty soon. Yeah. I'm getting that one to come

I got the DVD, but yeah, this one I mean, yeah, cool. Do it for the new new carry fans and say if they didn't care for the 70s one. But I don't know. I mean, it was just all the special effects

that took me out of it. It was, it just looked terrible. And that whole thing at the end was, I was like, oh, man. when she was walking down the road and they were going to run her over and the car just, I was like,

they tried to just do more damage than there was in the original one. So, I mean, they just tried to up the ante and give us more spectacular special effects. And it just, in 2025, it didn't even work back then.

But now it's, nah, I mean, if you got any of these streaming services, YouTube, the copy was pretty clear. So if you haven't seen it. It's on Prime. It's on Tooby.

Oh, is it? This is where I watched it. Yeah. Well, if you don't want no commercials, it's on YouTube. Check it out there. But yeah, it was all right. All right. Brian, what do you think?

You know what? Me coming in, knowing that it was an NBC TV movie, I kind of knew what the experience. and I didn't hate it. I didn't love it either. I thought Angela Bettis, her portrayal was interesting. She looked without getting into the next movie. I think she looked more of the outcast, awkward.

Yes. Okay. And I thought the way she portrayed doing her powers was more realistic to me. It wasn't acted well, but the fact that she looked like she was struggling and it hurt to certain points. Yeah.

I mean, comically, there was some parts where she was going cross-eyed. Yeah, right. But I just like the fact that her powers- Right after she gets hit with the blood. Right. Immediately she goes crawled like, oh.

I just, I just, the execution wasn't there, but I like they went for a different take. The fact that her powers didn't come so easily. Like, oh, I, found out I have powers. Now I'm a master at it, you know. Right. And this one, at least they tried to make it seem like

it was hard for her to do it. And I appreciate that. The effects were bad. I already brought it up to the reigning rock scene, which I understand was in the book. And they, I think they, I read they filmed it

for the original version. but they cut it out. Probably looked a lot different too, right? Well, no. I mean, if it was done right, it might have been pretty good, you know? That's probably why they cut it out. And me, knowing that this was a TV movie,

I was wondering if they were going to change some scenes like the gym teacher slapping the hell out of that girl Chris. She didn't have slapped in this one, but she got throwing up against a wall. So I did appreciate they They kept that same aggression with the gym teacher shoe I don't know her name There was a lot of recognizable people in here

There was a lot of don't know their names But I've seen you in other things Yep The main Angela Bettis Lance She's in a lot of What's that director? Lucky McKee Lucky McKee? Yeah Like she was in May

And a couple of other ones I think I think that was the main one I remember but overall I did appreciate they tried to add some stuff from the book when I understand the police interrogation and interviews was from the book so they tried to make it its own thing without trying to completely copy the original one so I do appreciate it for that but like I said the effects were bad especially for 2002 Yeah, there's really not much excuse for that.

Yeah. And the acting wasn't as great all around. Yeah. But like I said, me knowing it was a TV movie, I didn't hate it. I mean, the main girl, Angela Bettish or whatever. I liked her in the... What was that one movie my girl was in? Girl interrupted.

okay oh okay i like all right yeah a crazy house movie yeah yeah why no it was in that one right yeah my girl my number one um brad angelina jillie

the weirdest number one winona for everyone um but yeah and what's her name Patricia Clarkson as uh mrs white I like I like her she's a good actor

but I mean, she was no Piper Lori or, uh, oh yeah, no, the next one. Right, right. I thought she did what she did. I mean,

I mean, again, like I said, it was all right. I didn't hate the movie and say it was trash, but it was just, uh, I don't think we needed it,

but then, yeah, anyway, I did like, yeah, the main girl I did, I did enjoy her, her,

uh, betrayal is Carrie White. Or, Nez, I'm looking at some of the, I'm looking at some of the casting, for the series. Are you still there?

Yeah. Amber Midthunder is going to be the gym teacher. Oh. What does she like? Well, I'm going to say. She seems more like a student.

She's like 10 years old. Why does she be a teacher? Well, yeah, you see the teachers today. They're all young. They're not all. Trying to be hip, right? They're not all old hags that we had. Right.

I had some pretty hot teachers. Maybe having her, I didn't have a female gym teacher, but maybe having her young, maybe we're going to get some students slapping and it'll be believable. All right. There you go. Matthew Lillard's in this too? Yeah, he's the principal. Who's playing carry?

That'll be great. H. Howell? Yeah, she is. Does that C. Thomas Howell's daughter? Probably. No. She was in, I don't know if you guys ever seen Hunter Hunter with Devon Sawah. I did see it. Okay.

She played his daughter and she was in Curse of Chucky. She was the little girl. Okay. Oh, all right. I know exactly who you're talking about. So she is like, I think like 15. So we're getting like an age accurate carry. That makes sense. which is for this movie was 28 when she played yeah yeah she did look a little older Starbucks in this Katie Sackoff yeah Starbucks

Mike Flanagan's wife Kate Siegel Of course, of course Roller Girl Heather Graham What? He's nice too Oh man I'm looking at the cast It's a good cast sounds like better than

this movie maybe I mean it's Mike Flanagan he's he's got some pull yeah let me guess Mark Hamill shows up in it right

might as well as Lou Amber Midthnd she's tall old is she she's I guess you can be early 20s

at most yeah I would say mid to late 20s mm hmm okay but

uh Pray, man. That movie was hell of good. Yeah. Did you guys see that new Predator movie? The animated one? Not yet. Brian's seen it.

You're talking about the little end scene. Oh, man. No, no, don't smell anything. Don't spell anything, Ness. It's hell of good. The whole movie's good. Check it out.

Yeah. That's one I need to put up my list. That's one of the best movies of the year. And she's getting a Funko Pop, too. That's no rule. So I'm ready. for that. I saw her at Texas

Frightmare, but she went on her lunch break, so I didn't get to meet it. She's a little teeny. Nez coming and put the Gone Fishing sign up, huh? Is she short? She seems like she's super short. Yeah, she's really short and like super...

Yeah, a lot of are very petite, like, more than you would expect. Lance, what do you think about this one? Yeah, I don't, I don't necessarily. It was his first book he's ever written. I don't remember, and I haven't read it in probably 35 years or more, but I don't remember the police procedural stuff, but it sure didn't work in a movie, right? Like, I don't know, it took me out of it when it would go to another scene and he was interviewing people that were there and trying to piece it together. I don't know.

But, I mean, the movie wasn't, I mean, it wasn't horrible for a TV movie. It was damn long. It was like two and a half hours or something like that. This thing just kind of dragged on. And then, you know, you got the little police interview. Yeah, a little police interview. I believe it's the longest carry movie. I believe it's now.

Well, Flanagan's going to blow that out of the water with the series, right? But I don't know, man. And then it overstayed it's welcome, like you guys are saying at the end, the scene in the car there. And I don't know. It wasn't the best. It wasn't the best. We didn't even talk about the prom.

Was this supposed to be filmed in 3D the way everything was flying around? Was it? That's why I said they up up the ante on the special effects. I was like, oh, come on. Yeah. That one girl got killed by a backboard. I know.

That was ridiculous, man. Catherine, Catherine Isabel. She's in this. Ginger snaps, American Mary. Yeah, there were some hot. There were some hot, It gets killed with a basketball. Well, so did, what's your name?

Mrs. Collins in the original one. Right? She got the gym teacher. She got killed by the backboard, I think. But did it fly around all 3D? Oh, no, it just fell in. And got her. Yeah, at least she didn't fly out of the place.

Right? You might have to do that one, Brian, the original. Put it on the list. Yeah. yeah I I didn't really hate the police procedural thing I mean I don't think they executed it right but it was a it was a cool idea because like

I mean you know how much we all know what's going to happen like what are you going to do with Carrie to remake it and so they at least kind of tried to throw this in there to make it a little bit different I don't know that it necessarily worked because the acting was not awesome and then yeah the effects were

not there Philip not even up to TV movie standards those were like they were really bad like if I asked not even up to Star Trek standards right yeah original series I asked my son to like get on the computer and figure out how to make some special effects it would have looked better than that bullshit that was terrible

and like from the get go and like the opening credits they're dropping meteors out of the sky and I was like, oh, this is not going to be good. Right. But yeah, I did like the betrayal of Carrie. I think that her powers coming on very slowly made a lot of sense. And there was at least some rage behind it.

You know what I mean? Like you felt the torture from her a little bit. But by the end of the movie, movie, it was so long, I was like, when is this going to be over? It was all right. I mean, it was, you know, as a made for TV remake, what are you going to do? I think now that I'm trying to think back to the movie, was there less actual bullying of her in this one? Yeah, maybe there was.

I don't know. I mean, but I did feel like the girls were just like particularly mean. and then I don't know like when it when it all went down and she started like going nuts and tearing shit up in the gym it was I felt like it makes

made sense that'll make more sense when we review the next movie but like I felt her like losing control and that was that was you know everything went haywire from there well and they had the little they had the little dream sequence too

to kind of fake you out during the blood scene, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and that was cool. I did kind of like the boyfriend that was taking her to prom. I thought he did a pretty good job. That's no William Cat, but yeah, he was good. Yeah. The kid from Baby Driver?

That was the next movie. Oh, okay. I got that one confused. All right. Spoiler. Like I confused the Brian's, Brian. Yeah. I mean, there's only so many ways you can do carry, you know? Yeah, I guess that's about it. It was just kind of all right.

I mean, it wasn't bad. It was just not very well executed, I think. All right. Scores, Nez, what do you think? I give it about a six. Okay. that's fair Brian what do you think? Yeah I think that's fair six the acting wasn't great the special effects wasn't great

but I think they did little things here and there to try to different make it different enough from the original one to yeah try to stand on its own and may not have succeeded but I do like the attempt and I do like her Angela Bettis' performance in some areas. Like, I talked about it, Phil. You just talked about it. Her portrayal of using her powers, I thought was different enough to

make it her own thing. And she did seem like the awkward, ugly duckling that wasn't going to transform into the beautiful swan. She was just kind of weird. I still think... Sissy Space Sick. I still think Sissy SpaceX is the best portrayal of Carrie.

Not trying to go into my review of the next movie, but I think Angela Bettis looks wise. Yeah. The awkwardness, the outcast. I think she probably takes that in that category. Yeah. And they did reference that Freddie Prince Jr. movie. Yes, they did.

Yes, they did. Lance? Again, it wasn't horrible, it's just kind of meh. So I'll give it a four on ten. It deserves that much. Okay. I'm going to go five and a half. It was all right.

All right. Yeah. I mean, it was worth watching, but it's still carry. Like, if you miss this one and you've already seen carry, then. Yeah. We need carry the musical. Oh, Jesus. There is one.

Is there? Of course there is. I can't check it out. Okay. Quit talking that shit into existence. It's amazing. It just appeared on YouTube. All right.

On to the 2013 version. Hey, wait, I've got an idea. Hold on. Brian's going to love this one. Medea's Carrie. All right, what were you saying to? I'd watch that. Carrie, 2013,

a shy girl outcast by her peers and sheltered by her religious mother unleashes telekinetic terror on her small town after being pushed too far at her senior prom. Director is Kimberly Pierce, also known for Boys Don't Cry and the TV series, I Love Dick.

Okay. I love who? Dick. She loves Richard. Don't click that. All right, writers are Lawrence D. Cohen and Robert Aguero, Sacasa. I don't know, there's a dash in there.

Micasa Sukasa. Yeah. This is the first screen adaptation where Carrie is played by an actual teenager. Chloe Grace Moretz was 15 during filming Yeah, and I also read Because of Child Labor laws, she can only work Specific amount of time per day Oh, that makes sense

Yeah, makes sense That's why they always used to use twins That's right The film was originally slated to begin with a scene from the novel A young Carrie wanders into the yard next door And found her teenage neighbor's sunbathing Margaret flies out of their home in a rage and scoops up Carrie who throws a tantrum and summons a reign of stones.

Yeah, we already got that. The prologue was also shot for Carrie 1976 and wound up being deleted from both versions. There you go. All right, I guess that didn't work. Nez, what do you think about Chloe Grace Moretz as Carrie? I thought this one was good. I enjoyed it.

At the time, I was like, again, all right, let's see what they're doing. Right. I wasn't really on board. I mean, Chloe Grace Moretz, she's a good, she's a good actor and everything. Yeah. Loved her in that little vampire film and hit her both of those. But I was like, oh, really? But what sold me the most was when I found out who her mom was, Margaret, Margaret White.

Julianne more. I love her. So I was like, all right, cool. Let me see what she does. And to me, she was the All-Star. Oh, for sure. Oh, for film. I mean, I thought she did a really good portrayal.

That's Carrie's mom. She just made me hate those crazy religious people even more. I mean, I mean, Piper Laurie did an amazing job. I mean, nobody beat her. But, yeah. She sold it to me. I felt all her pain and everything and what she was going through dealing with an abusive mother. Yeah, because she was like damaged and fucking crazy in this one.

All the mean, they all did their job. And even the main girl that was kind of mean but wanted to be friends with Carrie. I thought they were cool. I thought everything was good up until the end. the pig blood gym scene. I'm sure it was the directors and writers that made her do those crazy popping and locking moves because I was like,

that was like a thing at the time. Popping and locking. Yeah. Erratic movement. Right. She could have did fine and just looked around and just made everyone kill them. I didn't even like her doing that

because sometimes the look on her face was kind of like, oh, I don't know what's going on. Right. That was the only part that I didn't care for. I kind of like the look, man. She looked like an evil, evil kid. I thought they nailed it, is? No.

I mean, it was a good scene. I liked it, and the effects were way better. But just her movement. I just saw that just took me out of the whole scene. I mean, other than that, everything else, the lead up to it and all that, that was good. It wasn't just completely crazy off the wall like the previous one. But yeah, I enjoyed it. I saw it twice in the theater.

And after rewatching it again, I enjoyed it. I was hoping for this unrated version they were talking about, but that never came. well I didn't know anything about it but yeah again I thought it was a good movie Chloe Grace Moretz is a good actor she's a little cutie so it's

I know that's what they got to do to get people in the seats because this is a teen movies I mean you gotta get them in there for for her as well as the rest of the mean girls and everything but I was just like I don't know

I mean, even when they make her look all greasy hair and shy and everything. I mean, she was still cute. So, I mean, I'm sure guys would have still just looked over the greasy hair and the old school clothes. Yeah. That's kind of the style. I was thinking the same thing as. And then like that dress, you know, because like in the first movie, when it felt like when Carrie said she made the dress in the first movie, the 2002 one, I don't know.

I kind of felt like they were kind of making fun of her and then this one they were kind of like almost impressed it felt like that she did it

did you get that feeling? Well, yeah, I know what you're talking about, Lance and I especially like they introduced that the friends of, what's his name,

Tommy's character that didn't go to that school and the girl was super impressed that she made her dress and they made it a point to tell you that she knew how to do that stuff.

stuff because the mom was like a seamstress at a dry cleaners. Mm-hmm. So I liked those couple of little added things in there. Yeah, I think it worked. And I'm with, I'm with Nez, Julianne Moore. Like, you actually like her, right, as an actress, Naz? I mean, you think she's good looking at everything? Yeah, I mean, I've liked her in just about not every movie,

but a majority of her filmography. I've always thought she did a good job. I know everyone didn't really care for her as Claire Reese and Hannibal, but I was able to look at and just enjoy the film. But yeah, I mean, when I, seriously, when they were saying, Carrie Remake, I was like, uh, right? But when I found out who the mom was, that's what got me in the theater to go see it.

And what she killed it, right? Yeah, she killed it. Judy Greer, she was good. Oh, yeah, she's cute. I like Judy Greer. As the gym teacher, I thought she did a good job. She's good and everything. She was even good in those Halloween movies.

Yeah, despite the movies. I mean, but yeah, overall, I did enjoy the film. I mean, I thought it was cool. I mean, just my little nitpick about her little movements at the end. That was, to me, the only thing I frowned upon. But other than that, I mean, it was a new carry for a new age. and it was an updated one. It was better than the previous one, like I said.

So, yeah, I enjoyed the film. Yeah, like Brian, did you like the way they incorporated the cell phones and everything and, like, filming her on the cell phone and putting it out there? Yeah, I expected it being 2013, so I expected them to the technology to be updated. And I guess I'll just jump into my... review here because we lost Phil temporarily because she should be back on pretty soon. But Carrie 2013, I did not like. I thought Chloe Grace Moretz was Miss Cass.

Okay. She, that outcast, loner look, she did not have it. She didn't have it. By the time you got, by the time you got the prom, all she did was throw a couple curls in her hair. Yeah, I know. Yeah, because I'm looking at pictures of her in her old old wear. I mean, kids

teens, I'm dressed like that now. And she was too cute for this. Even when they tried to, I don't want to say, ugly or up. I mean, she was still... Yeah, she was... Put a pair of glasses on her. It's like they did the old movie.

Mess her hair up or something. Right. I'm not saying Angela Bettis was the greatest, but at least her hair looked like it needed to be brushed or washed or something. Yeah, fair enough. And I do agree with you guys. Julian Moore was the standout performance in this movie. A performance that was not the standout performance was Judy Greer as the gym teacher.

Oh, with her. You talk about popping and locking during the dance, NAS. I got she was horrible in this movie There was no The scene The classic Detention scene You know you got to serve this amount of this

My detention or you'll be suspended And Right Lose your prom ticket stuff I felt no emotion No anything It was just kind of like Oh you guys are in trouble

Right That'd be it And I think they'd played it safe because it's closer to nowadays where you can't put your hands on student. Yes. So they completely skipped over that. Yeah. But one scene I do like, or two scenes I do like that they did, Sue Snow,

her reasoning behind sending her boyfriend to ask Carrie, out to the prom. I like that because they emphasized that if it wasn't for anybody else, it wasn't to make her feel better. It was just the right thing to do. And I thought they emphasized

that better than the original movie or the movie or the TV movie. Yeah, it was a little more clear in this one, wasn't it? And the use of technology we quickly talked about. I think they up to Annie with the period scene.

by somebody filming it and then putting it on the TV screen at the prom. Yes. Yeah. I think that just kind of up the enemy for her to lose it. But then I would be taken out by her facial expressions when she's doing magic and she's just got her mouth open all confused. He was like, oh.

I just, I didn't buy her in the role at all. Yeah. so that's where I'm at with it so yeah I'll just I'll just say I'll just say I don't yeah I don't have too much to add I mean we've covered it all right I'm about carried it out yeah I I uh she was way too pretty to be the carried character I think in this movie yeah and I you guys probably already said it but like I thought the fact that she had like totally and completely mastered her powers before this, before the, yeah, before the prom scene, kind of, I don't know, it made it weird because then it wasn't she was just like losing control. It was like she was just killing people one by one, you know? Serial killing. It was like she knew what she was doing. I think it was pacing issues because she's in the library, Googling.

powers. And then the next scene, he's sitting in her room with books everywhere. And my daughter passes with me. And I'm like, those books are placed in strategic places. I wonder if they're all going to start flying around the room. Oh, boy.

And she's already pretty much, I mean, she raises all the furniture. Right. And she, that's where I think the first time she does that mouth open, confused look. Yeah. And then after that, she's using her powers all willy-nilly whenever she wants.

Sure. Like the new mutants. I will say, I didn't bring it up. I just not thought about it. I did like the car crash scene at the end. Yeah, it was well filmed. Because you got to see what happened to him crushing his face on the steering wheel. Yeah.

And then her face being stuck in the windshield, I thought it was pretty cool. Man, that bitch should have really got it. She was a really, really evil. individual. Say it, Philip. It's time to peel that bitch's skin off, you know what I mean? I mean, she's, out of all the

portrayals, she's the one that slices the throat of the pig. Oh, yeah, haplishly. And enjoyed it. Yeah. As soon as that, when the pig farm scene came up, I was like, uh-huh.

Man, those motherfuckers need to get shot. Right. Like, because I get killing the pig to eat it and I imagine they're probably worth quite a bit of money so I'm sure they are. They didn't eat that pig. Yeah, no.

They were just killing a pig for the fun of it which seems really awful. It's sad for that pig. She specifically picked that one out. Poor porky. That one.

Yeah. And I like Chloe Grace Moretz a lot. Yeah. and she's a really great actress and if she's in the movie that's a point up in my book I hate really anything that she's been in that I can think of

but I don't I don't know that I like no okay so we had a another internet glitch I'll jump in real quick because I was really thinking about it, Lance,

and you'll probably remember her for this role. If they made her look like how she looked like in the Susperia remake, you remember what she looked like in that movie? Vaguely. Wasn't she only in it for a little amount of time? Yeah, but she was all hysterical. She's been hiding from the, which is Coven or whatever they were.

and she just looked kind of like she needed to get herself together. She looked more of how I wanted her to look in this movie and that movie. That would have been a better way to channel Carrie for sure. I agree with you on that one, Brian. And it could just be, you know, because this was one of her earlier roles, right?

Yeah. Or maybe not. So she's been acting since she was like child. Okay. Yeah, she probably, uh, if, if she were to, if Carrie were to come out now or something, she probably would have it down a little bit more. Um, but anyway, you guys ready to wrap up, Philip, Philip, he sent his score in. Yeah. I, I do. Um, I'll go to eight. I enjoyed it. I own. Nice. Um, yeah, it's all mainly for Julianne Moore, but, uh, but yeah, I thought everyone did their job. So, I'm giving it an eight.

Damn. Eight, eight, Brian. I got a jet, man. I got planes of landing and I got to get up. Pimp, daddy. Yeah, so everyone listened to everything we got here on the network. And Brian and I will be back soon.

So, all right, brother. I hit you guys up later. Thank you. Later, man. You going eight, Brian? No, I'm going five. Five? Okay.

For her. And I agree with Phil. She is great as an actress. I probably, I can't really think of a role that I've seen where I had a problem with her. I just think she was miscast and for her to be the main character that kind of took me out of it. I do like some of the changes with it being 2013. You got to change with Times, technology, yada, yada. I like those changes.

Mm-hmm. I did too. And I really liked Anson Al Goret as Tommy. I felt like he was more genuine as far as his portrayal of wanting to take carry out. And Julianne Moore was definitely the standout character, and Judy Greer was phoned in it. And I like Judy Greer too.

I like her, though. I mean, I'll give her a pass for that reason. But yeah, phoning it in, yeah, I think you nailed it on that one. But I have to give it a five. All right, well, yeah, you wouldn't expect the teacher to be twerking. at the high school prom dance, right? I don't know what she was doing. Philip gives it a six and a half.

I'll give it a six, man. Mainly for Julianne Moore. Like she, yeah, she definitely channeled Margaret White for sure. So, all right, Brian, no spoilers. So as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. You know where to find us, thehorreturns.com next week.

we've got what Brian you're in a oh shit not a new movie theater movie oh that's a great yeah I'm with you dude on the that's Carrie right there that's

I wonder if she was if she was thinking about that when she prepped for that Susperia role because she looks exactly like I would expect Carrie to look that that's that's kind of crazy dude the more disheveled kind of

that I don't know I mean she looked like that for a different reason to Sparia but to me if she looked like that in this movie she looked like the outcast yeah that would have been

a little bit more on spot but all right well that's gonna that's gonna be it for for Carrie are we gonna do the musical at some point

uh we might I don't know it might be a quick review I looked at the musical on YouTube and I believe it's like two hours long. I don't know if I can do that to myself. All right. And I watch five minutes of it and there's a lot of jazz hands.

Very musical, huh? But if we do it, I have to make sure it's the actual official production of it. We might do it, but I have to make sure it's, because there's an official. production. All right. Well, I'm in, dude.

If we do it, I'm in. So what else? What are we doing next week? It's 1992 part two. Do we have a guest yet? Or I'm going to try to reach out to somebody. These are always more fun with guests, I think. I can reach out to Steve.

I know he likes the high school horror and maybe Ness will keep up the street. What is this third? Yeah. He's jumped on. Yeah. we got to get Naz and maybe

Tavares or somebody like that. I don't know. Yeah. Who else likes 90s shit? They're out there for sure.

We'll figure out. All right. So, 1999 part two. So we're going to check out what?

Innocent blood and 976 evil part two. So until the horror returns again, Brian. Good night.