The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #478: I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997) & I Know What You Did Last Summer (2025)

Episode Date: July 26, 2025

Tavares from STUDENT OF THE GAME PODCAST joins us to talk some summer fun. Cool of the week includes the WNBA All Star game, High Potential, El Lazo de Petra, Leprechaun Revenge, and Dexter. Trailer is Five Nights at Freddy's 2. The podcast spotlight shines on THIRD CHANNEL PODCAST. And we get feedback from Pat Caruso, Jonathan Lindsey, and Vanex Rivers. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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In celebrating the old and the new The best and the worst in horror Welcome back everyone to The Horror Returns I'm Lance With me as always We have Sir Philip the galloping gallant night, Brian. And joining us this week, it's been way, it's been way too long.

Yeah, it's been too long. The student of, student of the game himself, Tavares. What's happening, y'all? What's happening? None much, man, trying to stay cool in this Texas heat. Yeah. Just came from outside, trimming some of the trees, man. So the trash day.

And I see the show's title, title, Summer Breeze. Like I said, I was looking for that breeze. I couldn't find it. Yeah. I could have used it, though. But I saw it all day, dude. It sucks. You know?

Oh, man. Well, we got it here in Florida. We always get an evening sea breeze. So it is hot, though. It is hot during the day. I got the hot tub going because I'm, I got some back issues going on. Oh, man. Slide into that hot tub after the podcast.

You don't need to heat it. Stop trying to bitch press 500. Oh, man. Not in high school no more, bro. bro? Yeah, it's a problem. That's a problem. That's my Snyder cut. Just sitting pool at this point, it may as well be a hot tub. For real. Tavares, what's going on with student of the game? Ah, man, been doing a lot of Houston mythology on these rockets, man. Been making a whole bunch.

2025 has been a hell of a year for the rockets, man. They get the number two seat. Face the Warriors. And I deeply, badly, passionately, wanted to. them to sweep the warriors, but then took them to seven and still lost. So unfortunately got to see Draymond Green with that big-ass grand again defeating my rockets, you know. Every time. You know, yeah, I can't stand that dude, man. And, you know, we got, we got Kevin Durant. So I go back and forth with that. Is that good? You could ask me on Saturday, do I like the move? And I say, yeah, you know, we got KD. We got to rely on. double score.

But shit, if you ask me today, I'm like, man, he 37. That's what I'm saying. He's 37. But I think if he, if we keep that core young group that we had. Yeah. Man, 37's a lot, dude. I'm going to agree. And I cannot do the things that I did when I was 30.

But he doesn't, he doesn't need to be, he doesn't need to be the man. Right. He just needs to be a team leader. Yeah, and hopefully he can do that while still giving them 25, 26 a game. Yeah. Hopefully the other, well, I'm looking forward to seeing what Amid Thompson and Shengun are going to do because I'm expecting those two guys to take big steps. I know Shingun was an all-star last year.

I'm expecting him to be nothing less than an all-star. I'm expecting Amin Thompson to not only make another all-defensive team to, but hopefully make at least one. of the three all NBA teams because I'm like, dude is a, that's a new 22 year old. The dude is like, I don't know. That dude is fast, man. Like, it's, it's moments watching them.

Like, this dude, he at the other end of the goal. And all of a sudden, it's like, this dude just freaking teleports. And he knocking the ball away and blocking shots. And I'm like, where does this dude come from? Yeah. Nobody else has to take attention. I like, I like his toughness, too. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. He doesn't take shit from no. He plays like he's been in the league. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And that's what I love about this team. Him, Tyree Eason, hopefully he can stay healthy. But I love how when Draymond Green gets up in his face, he back in Draymond Green face. He's like, hey, bro. Hey, he's like, hey, bro, you're like 10 years my senior. You're old. You're old, dog. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, that's what I love about this team. Man, they're young and they hungry. And I love the attitude of the coach, man. He got. that he kind of has that Detroit Pistons gritty type attitude about, you know. Nice. Oh, yeah, that's what I love about it, man. I miss that, I miss that kind of basketball because that's how I played going against

my dad and my uncles and my brothers and shit, man. You know, they all older than me. You go to the basket. They're going to knock you on your ass. Yeah. You know, and they dare you to call out. Lesson learned after that, huh? Oh, yeah.

The Rockets are hungry, man. We're going to get there. At least we didn't trade Luca Donkick. Oh. Hey, that's still don't. Well, I guess after the Lakers, when they got new ownership, I guess that made sense. Because part of me, I have this theory that the new owners, they paid like over $10 billion for that franchise. Yeah.

Imagine having that kind of money to spend. Yeah, exactly. No, I can't imagine it. They just wake up one day and say, fuck it, we don't buy the Lakers. We don't buy the goddamn Lakers. You know what I'm saying? Not the Raptors, the Cavaliers. We're going to buy the fucking Lakers, man.

Didn't they buy the Celtics next? The Dodgers before that? Oh, my God. I don't know. I don't know. Well, I know Magic Johnson was part of that team and bought the Dodgers. Huh. That'll be interesting.

I could be wrong. See, that means Magic owns more of the Lakers now because he was part of that team that bought the Dodgers, I think. Okay. That'll be some shit, man. I'm happy with that. I hope they don't overuse Durant, right? I hope they're smart about it. Like, you know, keep them on the bench until they need him.

Yeah. Until the playoffs. Yeah, a stupid injury. You got to be early in the season would be terrible, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I saw some people, they had compared this signing to when the Astros has signed at Verlander. You know.

Okay. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You bring in that old guy. Bring him that old guy. All pro vet, you know what I'm saying? To help them out with the pitching with that, that, young core. So I'm like, okay, I can see that. I can see that. You know, but just be ready in the playoffs, KD. Just be ready, man. You can play 20 games out the season all I care. Just be ready.

Yeah. Yeah. That's when you turn it up. Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah. But you know, man, I still wish, I wanted to see Jalen Green one more year because I'm like, man, that dude is going to grow from this shit, man. But it's like, hey, KD, it's like, well, uh, All right, Jayland. Duce is, but man. Got to make decisions, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to argue against KD, except that he's old.

That's it. Yeah. Well, you know, they have a two-year window, and E.M.A. Yadoka said, hey, I'm not here for a rebuild. He had a taste of the finals with Boston. Let's fucking go. Yeah. He got fired, and he's like, hey, I'm trying to get back there. So I'm like, you know what?

My team had won a championship in 30 years, bro. So, hey, if I'm not. I can live through. Really? Yeah, 95. Yeah, dude. It's been a while.

Yeah. All right. Like, if I can survive, I feel your pain. Let me see. Who else they trade? They traded Sam Cassell, Robert Ori, Francis and Mowgli.

If I can survive that, it's like, hey, I like Jalen Green. I love Dylan Brooks' attitude. I love Cam Whitmore, but it's like, hey, man, we're trying to get a championship. So, hey, let's make that happen. close so close so many times oh yeah oh yeah man that goddamn john stockton shot still live in my

head man shit but at least stock they never won a championship so that that's how i can sleep at night on that you know yeah there there is there is that oh yeah i'm glad him and called malone didn't win like when we went to the lakers i'm like shit he's gonna get her goddamn rain but he got He got hurt in the finals, and I was like, he got hurt in the finals, and I'm like, yeah, that's what your ass get. You never got hurt in Utah pretty much, but you went to L.A. got hurt. No ring for you. Yep. There you go. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, man. Those dudes, they, oh, I couldn't stand to Utah, jass man. Oh, yeah. Who could?

Yeah, I don't know. I haven't met anybody to this day. I mean neither. Not yet. Malone and Stockton? Dude, that's a good team. Yeah. I respected Oster Tag more. him alone and stocked man like oh gregg oster tag my high school my cousin my cousin got in a fight with

with gregg oster tag in high school come on man i'm not fucking joking you had a fight with gregg oster tag no my cousin did he was a big karate guy i guess he got in a fight i don't know he might have been bullshit but

Duncanville high school yeah yeah he he went to him In the, like, I was late 80s, I guess, probably was a high school time for Greg Oster Day. Okay. Right. Oh, shit. Hey, well.

Hey. Sorry, Greg. Shouldn't they play for Utah. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. Big man. Yeah, this is the first year in a while. I actually want to try to get to a couple of Rockets games.

So I don't know if they come to play Orlando here. That's just right up the road. And, you know, we're in Houston, at least. you know, three or four times a year, minimum. So definitely try to make a game or two this year. Okay. It's been a while. Yeah, should Orlando got a nice fort they building over there too.

Yeah, that'd be a good game. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hopefully we can do them like we did in 95 when we swept them, but that'll be a good game. Yeah. All right, Tavaris, you know how this works, man. It hasn't been that long since you've been here. What is your coolest thing?

you've checked out this week what's your cool of the week? Man, the past couple weeks, man, I've been paying attention to a lot of WNBA, bro. Oh, yeah? All right. And you know, you're not going to watch Summer League, right? Yeah. Yeah, this is the first time I've watched this much WNBA's probably since we had the comments down here, since we had the comments. But shit, man, I watched the All-Star festivities.

Sabrina. That was a fun game. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. was very entertained shit i found that game more entertaining than the than the men's game from the past part of year why can't the men's game have four point shots yeah exactly like hey that's not a bad idea exactly you know what i'm saying that way they don't nobody got to worry about getting hurt shit you're shooting it from damn near half court you know what i'm saying so right but um

i watched the three point contest me and my two oldest sons and um i always mess with my oldest he's 12 And I say, hey, man, you think you can, you can beat that lady? He's like, yeah, I'll just try her hard and just knock her down. And I'm like, well, man, she's not going to even try to beat her? You're going to file her and knock her down? I'm like, you know, she going to get back up, right? Shit, you know. But they were impressed on a terrible strategy.

Yeah, but they was very impressed with the shooting display. Because it went, I think the three-point contest, what's the young lady from Atlanta? She won it last year. I think it's O'Leod. I forgot her name, but they were surprised because they don't really watch too much of the women's basketball. They watch some of the March Madness a little bit with me. And I tell them, I say, hey, listen, don't get it twisted, man.

There are some girls that can really hoop. And if you go out there and you underestimate them, man, they will embarrass your ass. Yeah. So if you play in a girl, hey, you better try to win that shit. You know what I'm saying? Because if you lose, shit, you're going to get talked about, man. Yep, right. You know, you're going to get talked about.

But I've been following a lot of coverage to WMBA right now, you know, during the All-Star break. If you watched it, I'm pretty sure you saw the shirts where they say pay us what you owe with some stuff. And, like, a lot of people are saying, well, they're not making anything. Why are they asking for a raise, man? It's like this. When you're trying to get higher pay and try to get a raise, I don't give a damn what the owner's making. It's like, hey, you know what? You might not be making a certain profit,

but that still doesn't mean you can't pay me more. And I think, you know what? Hey, if they feel and believe they deserve to get paid more, what shit? I'm all for it, man. I'm all in support of people trying to get paid more. Yeah, because it's, to be fair, it's, I mean, they're professional athletes.

Yeah. And they're getting paid like, what, 75,000 a year or some shit like that? That's it. $75,000. Love your job. It's not much. I mean, that's a lot for like a regular person, but it's not a lot for a professional athlete.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You know, in TV ratings have increased the past couple years and stuff. And, you know, thank God on ESPN, like in college. Caitlin Clark. Yeah, Kate Clay's a big part. But you know what? Also, ESPN finally started giving the game more coverage.

You know what I'm saying? Like, well, that's true. two years ago, they gave it more coverage during the March Madness. And then that's when a lot of us, we started saying, hey, who is this young lady here shooting like she's Steph? I'm like, oh, okay. And I'm like, who, who? I'm like, Paige Beckett's shit.

She over here making all these mid-range jumpers and shit. And what, let me see, Angel Reese fucking just getting all the goddamn rebounds and shit. So, you know, ESPN finally started giving it more coverage. I think that's helped it a bit too, because at first, man, they wasn't. it's like they was intentionally not covering that sport for some reason. So it's like, okay, you know. But I love it, man. Like those ladies, they can hoop, man.

They can hoop. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because see, right now, unless you got like endorsement deals like Caitlin Clark or Angel Reese. Yeah, that's where the money comes from. Alex Wilson. You know what I'm saying? That's because matter of fact, I think it was Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese.

And Paige Beckers, they would have came out in the draft a couple years ago. But shit, man, they're making more money in college. U IL money. You know, so it's like that's right now. Yeah, that's right. So it's like, you know, in the men's game, they're trying to get the hell up out of college. Well, with UIL money now, you'll probably keep some players there a little bit longer. But if you make it damn near a million and a half a year off endorsements,

shit, man. why go to the WMBA? Yeah. You know? That's just, you're getting paid, part-time pay for your day job, you know? And I know the, and I get it, some of the veteran players, there's some jealousy within it, but I think a lot of that comes from,

shit, they probably thinking, man, where was this shit when I was in college? Yep. You know? That's true. Well, that's always going to be there. What are you going to do about it? Things change. Change big time.

Evolution. Evolution, man. Evolution. All right. So is that it for you, man? The WNBA, the All-Star game specifically? Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty much it for me.

Yeah. All right. Man, I don't have a whole lot this week. The only thing I can really think of is my wife has been watching this. It's like a detective show, but with the chick, with the chick from, Bosch? No, from, always sunny. What? Okay.

It's a comedy. Olson? I'm not even really sure what her name is. Yeah, I know you're telling. Yeah. It's called a higher, high potential or something like that? High potential. Never heard of it.

It's the same generic savant formula for a detective thing. Is it a comedy? Sort of. But it's, I don't know.

I've never seen her in anything. I know. It's, it's kind of comedy, but it's kind of serious. It's, it's just really easy watching. Oh,

okay. And so they'll have like a detective case, and then she comes up and, and she's this like super genius who is also like a single mom who was the janitor at the police station and they pulled her in for some reason okay because apparently she's got some crazy high IQ and and so she solves all the cases because she makes these connections that nobody else it's like psych is what it is kind of cool that's a good comparison yeah yeah uh but

But it's a fun show. We'll see where it goes. I mean, she's good. I like her. I like her. She's real good. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's all right, man. I like her. I, you know, it is what it is. It is what it is. There's only a season of it,

and that's the only thing I've watched. That's the only thing I can say is my cold week. Okay. Okay. Man, that'll work. No, it doesn't have to be horror. We've established that. That's for sure.

Well, so. Can't be. All right. For my cool of the week, Brian, because you may have a couple, I think, from what I've seen. Dexter is back. So finally, we get another good Dexter series. You guys checked out Resurrection yet? I've got to have done with the original series.

Oh, okay. Well, this is as close as I've seen to, like, the first four seasons or so of the original that were actually really good. Really gory. Lots of blood. lots of characters lots of characters come back but the last couple of seasons of Dexter for me like the one with his son

and what was the other one was like a prequel one come on but yeah this is good now I will tell you this Brian the toxic Avenger has not shown up yet so I don't yet know how Peter Dinklage fits into the Dexter timeline but I guess we're going to find out I'm only two episodes in

Oh, Peter Dinkliss is in there now? He's in the credits, but he's out of the first two episodes. I hope he's like one of the evil angel or demons on the shoulder or something. That would be great. That would be great. But I'm enjoying it. And it's kind of cool because he's about my age, right? So you got to have those age jokes, right?

Like, I can't clean up a body as fast as I used to. Or, you know, I got to take shortcuts now when I dispose of a corps. you know, that type of stuff. Oh, man, my hemstring is killing me. So, yeah, it's... If you're old enough to have problems with being a serial killer, then you deserve to be caught. I guess, yeah, I guess.

It's fun, man, I like it. Dexter Resurrection. Well, we'll segue over from Peter Dinklitz to... Got to get back in now. I'm on a call. Sure, two shorts, I sing. Okay. Too short? Too short.

Listen to his music all week now. I watched two short films. Sorry about the background noise. I don't hear it. The first one is, I want two cool as a week, Lance. Okay. First one is a fan film called Leprocon Revenge.

Okay, I think I've heard of that one. It brings back, I think his name is Mark Holton. He was the big guy from the original one, the simple-minded one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Dude, I don't remember a single thing about that movie.

It's a direct. Jennifer Aniston? Yeah. It's a direct, I guess, sequel to the original one. except it doesn't have damn I can't think of his name Warwick Davis Yeah it doesn't have Warwick Davis

It has Lyndon Porco He was the leprecon in the last Is that the rest of the rest of that did the 2018 We don't speak of that one Oh okay Right And it's

And it's done by the production company Fuzz on the Lens which they do the terrifier movies. You got that kind of, you got that kind of effects in it with the practicals. Nice. So, yeah, it's pretty,

it's pretty well made. You got characters from different generations of the series back in the movie. It's a quick watch. It's about nine minutes. And there's some gore in there. Like I said,

the production company did Terrorfire that movie stream a couple other ones so yeah pretty good if you're a fan of the leprechaun series it's not canon because it's a fan film but

it has a lot of the elements in there that you can watch it like it was canon if you want to just ignore all the other ones how detailed lepricon fans are going to get in that shit oh you never know man there's a whole subculture There's a whole subculture.

You know, didn't they do one that came? I think I saw it on sci-fi, but I think the guy who swallowed the coin, I think he was in there too. Yeah. Didn't they do one before? Yeah, that guy that was the leprechaun in that one is the leprechaun in this one. Okay, gotcha. Oh, cool. All right.

Okay. So you can find that one on YouTube. YouTube, okay. It's called Lepricon Revenge. What do we call those people? the leprecon fans like the lepricon fan lepers

I don't know I like it and the second one is also a short film from my girl Gigi Saul Guerrero oh yeah I'm going to probably mispronounce this title

El Laso del Petra I'll send you I'll send you the name Lance Okay. It is part Western, part 16-pick game, because it switches from 16-bit animation-style gameplay when it's, this is grandma telling this story to her granddaughter about a female horse whisper that was a badass back in a day that used to fight spirits and monsters and all kinds of stuff.

Okay. And it's said in like old Western times. and the other 16 bit sounds specific yeah it's weird right it when she's telling the story it goes from live action

and it switches to like 16 yeah it's pretty cool like super sounds crazy man that was it and Gigi did the same thing as 28 years later she shot it all on a 16

iPhone 16 pro this one you can also find on YouTube, I think on the iPhone something YouTube channel. I'm looking at it up. What's it called again? I know you're going to have to pronounce it again, right? I'll find it. I'll send you the links.

Elaso de Petra? Yeah. You said it a lot better than I did. All right. All right, cool. So that's a couple we can watch easily, right? Don't have to pay for Paramount or anything like that to get these. you watch both these short films, you'd probably be spending like 20 minutes.

Okay. Less time than watching the new South Park episode, Tavaris. Oh, man, I've been hearing about that. I'm going to have to watch that either today or tomorrow, man. I'm so behind on South Park. Like, I used to watch that show. Let me see. I made it all the way to season 20 pretty much,

where I watched pretty much almost all of them. But I just stopped watching them because it. it's like it's hard to keep that on with the kids running around and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine. Oh, a cartoon. And then it's like, no. Oh, yeah.

No, no. No, no. You can't watch this. I don't know. It's still on, to be honest with you. Yeah, yeah. We're just doing a special every once in a while. It's on.

The last one I caught up with was when they did the, they did the COVID episodes and they did the, um, they did the episode where, um, when they was poking fun of the celebrities that take, what is that diet drug, Ozympic. Ozimic, yeah, yeah, that's right. I remember that one. That sounds funny. That was probably like two seasons ago.

But what I was going to say with Leprecha, I think a missed opportunity was I don't think it's too late to do it. I think Jennifer Anastan should come back and pull the elderly. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Make a friend out of reality, you know. She's at a point in their career. She don't really need to do things.

for the money. Yeah. Yeah, well, you do it for the love or the art and for the

Just have fun. Yeah. I, maybe leprecon didn't make her, but they at least had a hand in it. Yeah,

it didn't hurt. Hey, that's when I first saw it was on leprecha. Right, yeah. But I, okay,

friends made her, but yeah, lepricon had a pretty big hand in it. Friends made her, but lepricon introduced her.

Yes. There you go. Yeah, it'll be cool to see do it. I mean, I'm not saying she got to do like Jamie Lee Curtis where with Jamie Lee every 20 years she'd come back as Lori Strode and say it's the last one. Right. With a new storyline. It'll be cool to see her back in that role, you know, you know, to go back to a horror route or something. But I don't even know how she even

feel about the Lepicon movies, to be honest with you. So, no. I heard she was embarrassed by him. That might have changed, though. I think, you know, I mean, as she... be embarrassed about it. That wasn't surprised me. She's seen, I don't, like, I love,

I love her. I really do. But she, she, she does give a little bit of an uptight vibe. Does she? Yeah. Well.

You know what? If Adam Sandler wasn't still putting her in movies, maybe she'll do it. Right. Yeah. Probably like, you know,

I'm going to get that check every five years from Adam. So, you know, count on that, right? Probably quite a bit more, too.

Yeah, because how much was they making a per episode on Friends? Was it, was it like a million of episodes? And that was then. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. 20 years ago. Yeah.

Yeah, for real, man, because it's like now you hear about some actors, you know, they're getting 500,000 an episode right now, which I still think that's wonderful. But they was getting a million per episode. Yeah. I think it was like 20 episodes per season with friends. The biggest show was a lot back then. Yeah, that's one like... 20, 26 episodes a year.

Between Friends and Seinfeld, you don't have shows like that anymore. No. I mean, they was on, shoot, man, they was on freaking NBA and MLB contracts, man. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. Man. Is that it, Brian? Yeah, that's all.

Yeah, but... Okay, all right. Good deal. So we got two short cool of the weeks. We got a lepricon. and let's see if we got any news yet Brian I know that I know that we've got the Comic-Con in progress as we speak right now I think right

yeah sure big one I don't know if this show but we might get an update Nes might give us an update what's going on what they've been seeing so far all right yeah we got to have somebody that goes out there to the front lines, right? Yeah. So we'll start with TV news. Wednesday, season two starts next week, but it...

All right. Netflix has already renewed it for a third season. Okay. Smart movie. Not surprising. Uh, Stranger Things creators that Dofer Brothers have debunked rumors that the final season episode runtime are movie-length episodes. Okay.

game. That's cool. One of them's got to be, right? Maybe the finale. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. It's good.

I just, you know, when a show starts going like hour and a half, two hours an episode, it's like, is this really a show at this point? You know? Good point. You know, more like a whole bunch of movies coming up back to back. Not that I'd be mad about stranger things doing that. Yeah. Right. Especially since they're supposed to be there.

Well, I think they're going to, are they going to do like a. final season A and final season B or something like that? Three, three parts. Oh, three parts? Yeah, but it's in like a month span, though. Okay. They're not, they're not Cobra Chi and it.

Like, you got to wait like three, four months. Right. Ten year deal. We've waited long enough at this point. Really milk that out. Yeah. All right. New VHS movie coming

called VHS Halloween. I'm all about it Love those VHS movies Coming to Shutter October 3rd and I'm looking at The directors It looks like they're going all Pretty much unknown directors this time

Good, good Okay Yeah let's see what they got Get some fresh talent out Right Phil? I do recognize one Director Paco Plaza He did the rec movie

Okay Oh yeah yeah Oh the original Okay That should be interesting Let's see. I don't hate the Halloween idea. Not at all.

I can dig that. Paco Plasma must be doing one that's going to be like Halloween in Spain because he's like from the Barcelona area. Let me see. The rec movie, was that the one where when they remade it? Is that the one where the first quarantine? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Gotcha. Okay. With the sister from Dexter in it. Yeah, quarantine maybe. Oh, yeah. That was one of the best horror movie experience I ever had as an adult when me and my wife saw that movie. Oh, it's a good one.

I was not expecting that movie would be that good. So I'm like, shit. Okay. Yeah. Good guys don't survive on this one. Yeah, actually, yeah, quarantine was really special to me because I watched it with my son-in-law. I don't know, about a week or two before he passed from brain cancer. So it was like one of the last things we did together.

So I'll always remember that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a good one. Good movie. Let's see. Evil Dead Burned has started production. This is the sequel to Evil Dead Rise.

Okay. Directed by Sebastian Venechek. He did that infested movie, the one with the spiders we reviewed last year. Okay. The French one. Not bad. Not bad. Interesting.

And he said he's going hard. hardcore with this one. He wants to make it hurt. And he wants, he said he's going so hard. He probably is not going to do another horror movie after this one. Oh, wow. Okay.

That's a good sign. If you're going to do an Evil Dead movie, you've got to make it extreme. He's got to switch over to rom-coms, I guess, huh? Let's see. Zach Craigor. We know him from Barbarian, and I think we're all the excited

for the upcoming weapons movie. Oh, yeah. He talked about his version of the Resident Evil movie that he's doing, the reboot. He said he's going to honor the experience of the games because he was a fan of them playing. Okay. Oh, so no Alice, no more Alice, huh? Nope. I'm cool with that.

We'll see. And I think we'll leave it off here. this should make Lance happy. In a violent nature, too, begins or sets filming date for September. I did not want this. I wanted that to be a standalone. I'm so afraid they're going to destroy the magic.

Of course, Brian, you don't care one way or the other, because in your opinion, there was no magic. Absolutely. There was no magic. I can go film that same movie with my phone walking in the woods out by my house. Tavaris, what was your takeaway, at least 80% of it. Which movie?

You say, Final Destination? And a violent nature. Uh-oh. Did you not see it? The Slashor movie out in the woods? It's the Jason, but not Jason movie. From the killer's point of view.

Yeah, you just see him walking around. I haven't seen the trailer of it. I still haven't seen that. Oh, we're going to have to do. I see people post clips of it, but I haven't seen it. We have to do a commentary, Brian. Lance loves it, Brian hates it. I'm kind of...

I'm kidding. Brian is not going to schedule a commentary, trust me. Hypothetically speaking, if it was Jason Moorhees, it'll be from the perspective of Jason. Yeah. Shit, that's... Creative-wise, that's not a bad idea. It's creative, but a whole movie of it, of him just... Yeah.

There's a lot of scenes of him just walking through the woods. They take a long... Like a video game. Like a V-O-V in a video game. It's just lumbering. That would have been a bad idea had the creators of... What we got, like, 20 Friday to 13 movies? It's like, man, nobody never thought to do one from Jason's perspective.

You know what I'm saying? It's like... Yep. Yeah, I mean, listen, if you compare that one to some... The Friday the 13th movies, it's up there, I think. Okay. Fair enough. Well, which Friday to 13th movies?

Which ones? Well, I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's, it's hard to rank them, but it, that one's definitely not at the bottom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I like, my favorite one has always been, um, which one with, um, is, um, is Jason lives.

I always like that. Okay. That's always been my favorite one right there, you know, with the, um, with the sheriff's daughter at the red car and shit. And, oh, yeah, what was his name? Um, Tommy. Yeah, I always liked that storyline. I had a good time with Jason X where he slams the sleeping bag chicks against the balls. That's right.

Jason and Space. Hey, the Jason X didn't the dude who, well, maybe I'm mixing it up. For some reason, I thought the guy who did like the first final destination might have written that or directed that one. But maybe I'm mixing them up with somebody else. Oh, that would be our friend of the show. Jeffrey Reddick that created Final Destination. I don't think he was involved in that, but we'll have to ask him.

You guys just reminded me there was casting for the Friday of 13 prequel series Crystal Lake. They cast young Jason Voorhees will be played by Calum Vincent. Okay. Is that somebody we know?

He was in, I didn't get that far. He was in the Chucky series, I think, the later season. Okay. Huh. It already makes me feel bad because he looks like the cutest kid and you just know he's going to end up drowning in this show. Oh, no.

He'll be back, though. Maybe not as a kid. Put an eye on his forehead like goonies. Hey, they have a chance to, I think that series has a lot of potential, though. Like, if you're coming from, like the prequel perspective, because I remember like one of my first reviews I ever did on the first Friday to 13th, I was, I was like, man, you know what? After rewatching it, after so many

years, I understand Hamila Vorhe's like pain and frustration with it because it's like, your child died due to neglect. And you're trying to keep that camp close. And I just imagine than like going to the courts after courts and stuff, trying to make sure it stay closed. And then they reopen it and you do things to try to scare people. Right. Working there. But then it's to the point, the scare tactic's not working. And then it's like, you just finally lose your shit.

And it's like, all the counselors are a bunch of fucking inept retards. Yeah. Exactly. So they're all drunk and having sex and smoking weed, Philip. Time to fucking murder some people. Right. Can't blame her, though, man. That would be very traumatic, right?

To lose your little one by the ineptness of someone else, right? All right, that's the news. That's the news. All right, so I guess that means that it's time to leave the lake and head toward the trailer park. and Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What is the first new trailer this week, Brian? Before we get to our trailer, I forgot to send it to you guys.

Did you guys see Osgood Perkins teaser trailer for his new movie Keeper? No. Okay. I guess we'll have to wait to talk about that next week. Well, that's okay. Yeah, we can do that. How long is it? Is it like a true teaser, like 30 seconds, where we can just,

like a minute. Okay. Well, I guess we'll do it next week. What do you think? Yeah, we'll do it next week. It's so like hush, hush about the plot. Like, if you look it up on I and DB, there's like not even a synopsis for it. Oh.

All right. And watching the teaser, I have no idea what the movie's going to be about. Was it just like a lot of imagery or did you at least follow a character? It's like different women, like you're meeting these different women and you're cutting to different locations with them. And then by the end of the teaser, they look like they might be, well, the movie's title keeper, like they may be held captive. That would make sense. Okay. So kind of like a, what am I think, the movie I'm thinking of, the black phone, but with women instead of kids.

Yeah. But I don't know if they're all being kept at the same time or this might be. be different time periods or something. I don't know. It's your killer style. I like it. Yeah, maybe the killer collects them or something like that, like at different times. I was good Perkins, man.

He's been doing some good stuff. Yeah, for the most part. Hey, I like the monkey. I wasn't a huge fan. I didn't hate it. I mean, it was no night swim, Brian. But, uh. They did have that lady exploding in the pool, which was pretty fantastic.

I wish I was exploded in the pool when I watched Nights swim. I had to explain that movie to my daughter because I forgot what we saw. It was like something for Blum House, and I was like, oh, I hope we don't get blumbed. Get Blummed again. She was like, what's that mean? And I was explaining to her, and then I mentioned Night Swim, and she was like, what's Nightswam? and she was like, what's Night Swamp? And then I had to explain that to her.

And then she was like, that sounds stupid. You didn't watch it with her, Brian? No. Should have made her watch Night Swim. Well. But we are here to talk about a Blumhouse movie. Okay. Five Nights at Freddy's 2.

Are we going to get blumbed? You can count on it, buddy. Five Nights at Freddy's is not my thing. I never played the games, but I watched the trailer with my daughter and the way her face lit up to certain, I guess, characters and things happening in the movie. Right. It made me excited for the movie.

Okay. Because we're watching it and I'm kind of, you know, out the corner of my eye, like looking at her. Because I don't know what to expect. For all I know is they're just going to do the same thing they did in the first movie. but certain things popped up and she's just like, Oh, okay. Okay, I think the same thing would happen with Logan, Philip.

Has he seen it? Probably. No, I don't think he's seen the trailer, but he loved. The kids loved the first movie. The wife loved the first movie. Definitely going to go see the second one. And it looks like they just took it and had a bigger budget. And I'm sure there's going to be some stuff.

But, you know, like at the Minecraft movie, there were like people in the theater, they were like, yeah. And I'm like, what? Yes. What's happening? They knew like the chicken jockey, right? Oh, no, all the, all the kids at baseball were like chanting chicken jockey the next day. And I was like, I don't know what that means. So I'm looking here, Emma Tammy, friend of the show.

I need to stop this from happening. What's going on? Did an interview with her back in the day. She's back to direct again. Okay. And looks like Josh Hutcherson and Matthew Lillard will return. Of course. Yeah.

Wouldn't be the same without him. God, I love Matthew Lillard. McKenna Grace. I didn't recognize her when she popped up. That's the Ghostbusters kid, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, like her.

Yeah. I'm liking what I see. and I think it'll be a funner experience this time because this one's going to be in the theater and the last one was theater and Peacock simultaneous release. We didn't watch it in the theater. We watched it at home.

Oh, yeah, we saw the last one in the theater because the kids were super excited about it. And there was like, there was like maybe like six girls that showed up and they were dressed up as the characters some five nights. I don't think people don't do that enough. I know.

Like the last. Rocky Horror Picture show. Yeah. Last movie I had, there were people dressed up was that horrible Nightmare on Elm Street remake. Oh.

That was bad. Hold up. But there were people with authentic costumes in there. I'll speak on that. Marvel movies. Tavares was on the front row, I think,

dress up as Freddy. Oh, no. Not for that one. When I saw the trailer for that one, it's disgusting because I'm like, this is not going to do good. And then I'm like, okay, maybe I'm wrong. It's a lot of movies that. Yeah, you never know. I think it's going to be garbage.

But I remember we rented that movie and I was kind of like, okay, let me, because a lot of people crapped on it, it's like, okay, maybe it's not that bad. Maybe people just over exaggerating, but it's like, I couldn't take old buddy serious as for I mean, I'm like... I know. You could say I'm serious being like 5'3? Yeah. Jackie Earl Haley. This is going to be more serious Freddy Cougar, not funny or whatever.

I'm like, I can't take you serious, man. I'm like... Agreed. I'm like, Nancy should be able to just easily bully you, you know? I'm like, they don't come across the head. That's why he's so angry all the time. You know what I'm saying? The original name is to just put him in a little choice.

hold and be like watch out man right I'll see ball but it is I don't know he was he was pretty cringe you know I'm like uh huh yeah it was rough man you know how he was talking

rough and oh buddy is a good actor pretty spot on but that wasn't the role for him I mean I thought they should have went with um well I heard rumors back in the day that Kevin Bacon was

interested in it and stuff. And I'm like, well, I don't know, but I'm like, too much for Pretty Boy. I mean, well, he's burnt, Lance. Yeah, but I mean, come on. He's not going to do the movie as himself.

Okay. He's going to do Guardian's Christmas special style. I got you. Playing a guitar. You know, you know where they lost me in that movie? What's that? Freddie is gross anyways. Yeah. But when they implied in the remake that he was a child molester.

Oh, they did more than imply. They flat out said it. Well, but they implied in the original. Yeah. No, they implied he was a child murderer. Murderer. Yeah. Yeah.

This one, they were like. Tomato, Philip? This one, they were like, oh, he touched them kids. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Well. And see, that's the thing.

Who murders kids. Back and watched the first one. And then I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't realize until maybe I was like in my mid-20s that in the first one that he did, that he killed little children or whatever. For some reason, like, I literally missed that part growing up watching it and stuff. But also, I think I used to watch the sequels more than the first one. Because to me, always been the scariest. but my favorite one always been the third one.

Absolutely. I think we all agree on that. The best one for sure. Except for them killing Nancy, but I'm glad she came back in the, what is that, the new nightmare? Yes. Came back in a meta style.

That's Nancy's fault in that movie. Right. Believe your father came to you in Dream World. Yeah. Out of all people, yeah. Can't believe. of West Craven wrote that man.

But before we get out of the trailer park, did you see the trailer Tabaris for Five Nights of Freddy's 2? Yeah, that was that that was the only trailer? Yeah. Okay, okay, because I thought it was a second one too, but yeah. I haven't seen the Five Night and Freddy's movies yet, but

I saw the trailer and the thing about anytime there's a movie where there's like, like, what's the word I'm looking for? like creepy toys and all that stuff. It's like it always makes me, it always puts me back to being a kid and stuff. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah, that would have terrified the hell out of me as a kid growing up for real. Probably wouldn't have it played with toys ever again. So it's like, I'm glad that this movie here wasn't out when I was a little kid and I saw it because it's like, yeah. But it probably would have benefited my parents because they probably would be like, we don't have got to worry about buying him any expensive that. Yeah. Save a lot of money. That's like those

Chuckie cheese monsters Yeah Sure What was that Growing up watching child's play About seven, six, seven years old Yeah, that traumatized me For real man

Like For real man Because I had the Out of the run That's when my buddies was popular Yeah I was gonna say that You know

And my birthday's in November And I think Childs Play might have came out in November, October, that fall of that year. Mm-hmm. I saw that, man. Yeah, I immediately, I threw that list up. No.

Yeah. But, um, for... I don't want to buddy. I'm fine. On the five-night and Frick series, um, I forgot the actor name that I saw on here, but he's in the Hunger Games movies. John, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So is he, like, in all the, um, five nights after Freddy movies? Yeah. He was in the first one. Yeah. So far.

So far. Okay. Gotcha. Because I was like, wasn't he in that first one? Okay. Okay. But I think the first one is still on Peacott. It's on my watch list.

I just hadn't had a chance to watch it. But when does this one come out? The second one. This one, just in time for Christmas, December 5th. Okay. Oh, man. Toy time. Toy time.

Oh, man. But that's good marketing, though. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll check out the first one by that time. It's kind of fun. Yeah.

I'll just binge watch it. So is it like rated R or is it PG-13? Oh, you can watch it with the kids. Yeah, I think it's PG-13. It's made for kids. Okay. Yeah. It's a kid game.

Because we have watched the, well, we haven't watched the new goosebumps with the kids. I watched the new goosebumps. But the old. the old ones that came out like in the late 90s and stuff yeah i know the ones yeah you know so you know those are pretty good but yeah i'm gonna have to check that out yeah this was this was a a game that my kid introduced me to so yes yeah the movie that's usually how it works the millennial introduces us right philip i die he's like i don't know i don't even know what the new generation is but he's part of that

Generation Alpha X, Y, Z maybe I don't know I've heard Z and I heard alpha I'm like man Pick a

Alpha Yeah Everybody playing the alphas now man It's the one after Gen Z Generation Thanks for leaving us

Nothing you motherfuckers Yeah Five nights of Freddy's two In theaters I don't think it's going to be a simultaneous thing on Peacock since the first one was, I think, the highest grossing Blumhouse movie. Oh, yeah, this will be a theater for sure.

Yeah, well, they're going to hit the theater anyway, right? Even if it is concurrently streaming. Yeah, so December 5th, and that is the final trailer. All right, on to listener feedback. This week we shine the podcast spotlight on third channel podcast. Third channel is a horror podcast hosted by PJ and Derek, exploring beloved horror franchises from the perspective of both a longtime fan and a newcomer to the genre. It's described as a weekly TV film and film review podcast with a focus on horror. So third channel podcast, check them out.

All right. And some really cool dudes. And I met Derek on the monorail coming back. from Magic Kingdom. Oh, that's cool. And they had a really cool t-shirt on, which was like a, not really a parody, but like a fake movie art poster

t-shirt for Halloween 3, Part 2. And I was like, man, dude, what, what is that all about? And he was telling me about his buddy that does fake movie posters. So really cool guys. Hope to meet up with him at horror nights this year. in regards to

Kristen Melioti? I don't know what that is Oh, the one with that movie that came out during COVID with Andy Samberg What was that? Oh, okay Spring break Okay And she's in the Black Married Star Trek episode

Oh, that's right, the new one. The new one like her. Yeah. All right. Pat Crusoe says So Good on Penguin. Yeah, a lot of people love her on Penguin. Yeah, a lot of people. They say she steals the show.

I only watch the first few episodes of that show. Yeah, they were like, speaking of long episodes to Vars, they were like two hour long episodes, man. Yeah, yeah, I tapped out. Oh, no, the Penguin one was the, oh, that was, Colin, I haven't even seen that. Yeah, Colin, Colin, what's the Irish guy? Colin Joost.

No, not Colin. Colin Farrell, right? Colin Farrell, yeah. I'd never re-watch that show, man. I'm going to check that one out. It's still hard to believe that's him. I know. You only know it's him because of the credits and stuff,

but if they would have just trolled people and just not even put who's playing penguin, I don't think anybody would even guess that out that that was him. I mean, yeah. We'll see if they're going to mold that Batman with this Superman. They said they're not doing it.

Oh, they're not doing that? No, that's its own thing. Yeah, please don't. All right, I'm happy. I keep hearing, uh, I keep hearing a reacher name keep coming up. Yeah, man, man. Yeah. Yeah, a bad man's not that ripped, is he?

All right. Well, I mean, he can lose weight. Just, just, you know. Stop taking steroids for 10 seconds. For 10 seconds. That's right. Get back down to bad castle size when he was in Blue Mountain State. Yeah.

Okay. A good bad man shape, you know? That makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. I keep hearing his name, and then you guys remember when we reviewed Drop? Yeah. Yes. The guy that was on the date with her.

Oh, he could pull it off. Oh, the dude from the Yellowstone prequel. Yeah. I keep hearing his name a lot, too. Right. Again, too much of a pretty boy. You know, I don't, Batman's got to have an edge to him. He's supposed to be, Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a playboy.

Yeah. All right. I think it makes sense that Bruce Wayne is a pretty boy. He's supposed to be the opposite of Batman. Yeah. Twilight is Batman. What's that? I didn't hate it.

Yeah. 30 minutes of like trudging through the water to save people in a flooded sports arena or something. Oh, look at you talking about trudging through a. movie. Good point. See, you got me. Yeah, I wouldn't feel it. I did that one up.

Like, I don't know, but I just don't want him with this version is a Superman. Because like this Superman movie here, me, I scaled a one to ten. I gave it to ten. Like, I enjoyed that movie. Wow. Okay. Like, I think they should do, like, let him do more. solo Superman movies.

Okay. One where it's him and Supergirl, because they're supposed to have a Supergirl movie coming out next year. I think the young lady that was in House of the Dragon, she's starring as Superman. Yes, that's right. Superwoman. So I'm like, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, I want to see that, you know.

And, okay. And give me more crypto and more Mr. Terrific in there and stuff before they look up with Batman. I've just seen an interview with him. He just said he revealed that he signed a multi-picture deal. Mr. Trich? Yeah. Oh, he may be the thread, right, that goes to all the movies.

He was good. Somebody was asking about his role and I were going to see you again. He was like, I signed a multi-picture deal. All right. There you go. Show me the money. I want to see more Green Lantern, too. I loved him.

Well, you got that show coming up on HBO Max, the Lank. the Green Lantern Corps. Yeah. Is it Nathan Phillyan? He's one of them. Yeah, he's going to be in. Okay. He's going to be a peacemaker too.

He was good too. Oh, nice. Okay, cool. Cool. Cool. His cameo was hilarious, man. I was not expected. Right? Yeah.

Oh, this is going to be fired then. Okay, I'm looking forward to it. I still haven't seen Superman, by the way. Oh, no, but I'm going, I'm going Saturday. Fantastic. for tomorrow. It's way more fun than I expected it to be. Okay.

All right. Got to see it for real. It's not an emo Superman then, huh? No. No. No, this is closer to Lance is probably going to disagree, but closer to the Christopher Reeves Superman. Oh, yeah.

That sounds perfect. Yeah, maybe with a little cheese mixed in. Yeah. Yeah, out of all the other Superman that we had, Yeah, I agree. This is the closest one to that, you know. Oh, that's, I can't wait. Well, and this Superman, while he is slightly whiny.

Oh, yeah. I'll give you that. Right. A lot of bad shit happens. But he is more of a Superman. He's the guy that does the right thing no matter what. He used the ultimate voice go. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what Superman is supposed to be. Right. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I like that. When we was watching the movie, I was telling my wife, I said, he reminds me of Brendan Frazier a bit from the Mummy movies. Really? Yeah, a little bit.

Like how he delivers his lines and his personality, because it's like, you know, in the Mummy movies, he had a, you know, Brandon Frazier, he can give you that comedic element while still doing action. And you can take them serious, but sometimes it's hard to take through serious and stuff, you know, no matter of the situation, you know. So he kind of reminded that. And I was thinking like, man, I don't know if Brendan Frazier was ever offered the role of Superman back in the day. But this would be the closest thing to seeing him as a Superman. And I like him pretty much in all his movies and stuff. Good point. The casting.

Real good casting. Yeah, right. In Georgia the jungles. Also true. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Oh, yeah.

And the classic Encino Man. Yes. Oh, sure. Love that movie. We said to juice. Yeah. Fuck, I love Encino, man. All right.

All right. In regards to the incredible melting man, Jonathan Lindsay says, it's like the substance of the late 70s and predates Cronenbergs to fly and more. Huh. Haven't seen it. You seen it, Brian?

Yeah, it's been a while, but I see what he's saying. I don't even know if I know what that is Well, I'll probably put it on schedule now Yeah, there you get The melting man The melting man With the fly, have we done the fly?

We need to get that spreadsheet going, Brian Because I think most of the- I want to say yes Right Maybe we have Yeah I think you're right The fly with Jeff Goldblum, that one?

Yeah I think we have but if you asked me to put money on there, I don't, I'm not comfortable. I wouldn't risk it either. Man, what a great movie though. I think both movies were covered next week we've done before.

Wait, we did, we did do the fly because we did the original one. Yes, that's what I was out. Because I remember watching the original fly, I think it was for this, but I can't remember. Right. Why else would you watch it, right? Yeah. True. And you're right, Lance, we may have done next week's movies before, but we didn't do them with Steve.

Okay. True. That's the X factor. Yes. Professor X, Steve. All right. In regards to, I know what you did last summer. Van X. Rivers says, tonight I went to see the sequel.

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It's a double dose of, I know what you did last summer. We'll start with the original. Okay. For reasons. With the original, four young friends bound by a tragic accident are reunited when they find themselves being stalked by a hook-wielding maniac in their small seaside town. Director is Jim Gillespie, also known for Venom. Oh, no, not that Venom?

No, it's some older movie called Venom. Is there another Venom? Is it about spiders or what? It's got a Megan Good in it. Yeah, yeah, I remember that movie. I remember that. Okay. But not like, it's not like the comic book.

Not Tom Hardy Venham. Oh, no. Oh, he doesn't. Okay. I know. Some other movie you've never fucking heard of. Writer is Kim Williamson, also known for Scream. Kevin.

Kevin Williamson. Miss print. No, that was, that was me. I just read it wrong. Also known for Scream and the vampire diaries. based on a book by Lewis Duncan. loosely from what I understand. Oh, the show Vampire Dollars?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And screen. That's not bad. It didn't have a screen sort of atmosphere to it. And I got a little bit extra trivia real quick. Yeah.

All right. Freddie Prince Jr. has a podcast called That Was Pretty Scary. where they talk about horror movies. And the very first episode, his co-host had him review this movie, even though he's never watched it. What? Really?

And he had some trivia that I've never heard before. Apparently, what is the Jim Julespie, the director, did not want him on the movie. What? And let him know apparently every day on set that he didn't want. Oh, no. What?

Well, that's not good. And he even speaks of an incident where they had him do the, the, the, the, the, the, boat scene. Mm-hmm. Naked? No. Oh. That's weird, Lance.

They had him do the stunt and he wasn't comfortable with doing it. Uh-huh. And he wanted the, the stunt coordinator to be there. Because they kept telling him the stunt coordinator okayed it for him to do it. He just kept saying, I don't feel comfortable doing this. I'm not a stunt man. And then come to find out Jim, what is the name? Jim Gillespie sent the stunt coordinator home

because they didn't want to pay him overtime. And they're just going to have for the first junior do this stunt without a stunt coordinator. Oh, man. That sounds like manslaughter. He really didn't like him. That's a real good way to end up in jail. Yeah, I guess.

he would like give him notes about they would cut a scene and then he would tell him or send him a note or something I forgot how he put it about Jim Gillisby telling Freddie Prince Jr. Next time I do that scene don't have that stupid look on your face. Wow. Well

to be fair he's not a great actor. He's a little Tijuana-esque. Yeah. He plays Freddy Prince Jr. But I thought that was interesting to hear him say that. He's trying to get that, he's trying to, what story is trying to motivate him. Yeah, Stanley Kubrick style, right?

He was sort of the odd man out. I was thinking that, right? You know everything you were doing in that scene was fine, except that stupid look on your face. Jesus Christ. Thinking CGI that. that out now. Back then they couldn't, right?

It does like the same looking like the whole part throughout the movie. So, yeah. Right. Wow. But he does that in every movie. You see, he's up all that. And the Scooby-Doo movie,

got that same one. Yeah. Oh, I forgot about that. I had forgotten about that one. He does. He played really well in the early 90s, and that was but it. Yeah.

all right uh writer lois duncan was vehemently opposed to her young adult novel being reworked into a slasher film uh slating that she was appalled in one interview appalled uh this was due to the fact that her youngest daughter was murdered by an unknown assailant in nineteen eighty nine holy shit didn't know my bad my bad No kidding. It wasn't about a slasher. I don't know. She says as a, as the mother of a murdered child, I find, I find violent deaths, something to squeal and giggle. I don't find that violent death something to squeal and giggle about. Okay.

Well, I mean, listen, you wrote the book. So. But, yeah. I'm sorry to laugh, but maybe I'll squeal and giggle. I'm trying to figure out. Was it in a situation like where... That's weird. They took the name and they just did whatever they want with the story.

Right. It could be. Yeah, it could be. I've always heard it's loosely based. Okay. Well. Direct adaptation. Okay.

Okay. Maybe there wasn't a slasher villain in this book, but it was more of a... Right. Maybe he just like... Played pranks on them, right? I don't know. Left a condom in one of their lockers. I could be wrong, but maybe the book's more about them

accidentally thinking they killed somebody and trying to dispose of the body. Right. They inserted this fisherman slasher character. That sounds right. Because that sounds like the weird part of the fucking story. Anyway, we'll get into that. Right. Tavares, what did you think about the original?

I know what you did last summer. Well, I remember going to the movies and watching this. I was probably about 13, 14 years old, and I'm still fresh off the high of scream, bringing the slash. You know, and I had scream on VHS, and I probably watched that movie once a week. And then, and I think on the Scream, VHS on one of the trailers, I think that it featured, I know what you did last summer. I'm not mistaken. Okay. So I'm kind of aware of this movie for a while, and then when it came out,

this was one of those movies I think man we you know we used to movie hop back in the day so oh yeah you're not alone for real but uh I like it I mean good cast like like I mean I like Jennifer Love Hewitt

you got uh got Buffy the Vampire Slayer in there you know I didn't know who both in their prime yeah exactly well I think this might have been a couple years before they prime know. Okay. Maybe. You know, but she, she did Buffy

later that same year. That same year. Okay. Perfect. Okay. Yeah, because I started watching Buffy. Like, my wife, she was a big Buffy fan when I met her in high school, and I didn't start watching that to probably like 99 or $2.000. Is, is it good? Because my daughter,

we tried to jump into shows together, and she said that's on her list. And I just never really was interested in it. Okay. See, I haven't seen. the first season, so in 2009 or 2000, I guess they might have been like season three. That's when I started watching it.

Josh Whedon, I think, yeah, Josh Witton is over that. And one thing that he does well with shows and movies, he's good with an ensemble cast and stuff. So they got, I mean, it's some actors you're going to see on there.

You're like, man, I didn't know this person was in here. Like Eliza Dishkush was in there. The band camp chick from American Pie. She was in there. I forgot her name. The band camp chick. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But, man, this movie here, like, I like watching movies where you got to guess who's the killer and stuff. But see, to me, I think on this movie, I felt like they cheated because it's like, how am I supposed to guess that we are doing spoilers for this one, right? Yes, yes. Right off the back. This is almost 30 years. Okay.

That's true. You didn't know what the fuck this guy was. Yeah, it's like, man, that ain't right. Because it's like, for the most part of the movie, I thought it was Freddie Pris Jr. I thought he was the killer, you know, because I'm like, and I'm like, and he kept doing that ridiculous look that the director was saying.

Yeah. Why are we going to be visual? What do you mean? No, I got a note. Reading it off a Q card. Yeah. But Ryan Phillip's character, I couldn't wait for him to die. I couldn't. Oh, douchebag, huh? Yeah. Dude got no sympathy for anybody.

And it's like, you know what my dad's going to do, give my car and blah, blah, blah, man. Get your car, man. The way that guy was built, he was never going to be no NFL quarterback. No, right. For real, and especially back then, like, I mean. He's going to be an NFL trainer. About five, seven. I mean, you're not going to be no quarterback.

Like, you'll be a slot receiver or something. I mean, you're not going to be no quarterback, dude. But it made me think about a scene. I didn't realize how you watched it. Sarah Michelle Galler's character, she was like, yeah, I'm going to be this actress and you're going to be quarterback for the Steelers. And he said, no, the Cowboys. And I'm like, there you go, Bill.

Well, yeah. Represent. Represent. The Cowboys. And I'm like, and Jerry didn't ever sign you, bro. Yeah, it's also true. And then not to mention she went to New York and tried to be an actor for two months. Yeah.

It takes a little bit more time to two months. Yeah. Yeah, for real. She had it planned out. She was going to be on what she said, God and Light are as the world tour. Yeah, soap opera. I'm like, you, okay. All because you want a beauty pageant in a small rural town.

Okay, I mean, all right. You got to start somewhere. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true. But, you know, you got to go out there, be a waitress, just bust some tables or something, you know. But one of my favorite parts of this movie. Yeah, one of my favorite parts of this movie is, and I used to always rewind this part.

What are you waiting for? What are you waiting for? I'm like, I wonder how many times they shot that. because it's like probably a line yeah because i remember first watching it and i'm like okay and i'm like oh she called it to kill out she went and stepped out in the street like what are you waiting for i'm like okay i'm like hey she got she got a lot of heart man but she did she put everything into that line i maybe they did kubrick her ass i don't know it could be did you guys know that that line was from a contest winner from a radio show, some kid.

What? Oh, really? Brian is bringing the trivia tonight. What a weird thing. She didn't understand what the line was, what the motivation was for or anything. But then when she, I guess, watched it back, she was like, that's great.

That's the line, huh? Oh, wow. And the rest is history. What was the question they presented to the, Yeah. To the radio show. I don't know exactly. Maybe it was like you can add like you can have the somebody say something in the movie or something, some kind of dialogue.

Just some random ass thing. I guess it logs it fits with the movie. Hopefully that child got a check or something, man, or residuals. Should still be getting checks. Yeah. I know. Take line because they in the second one she says that in the in the second one. No, Tversa, she just spoiled it, man.

Huh? Not that I'm messing with you. Oh, that's, oh. You spoiled it. I mean, like, I still know what you did last summer. That came out in 98. That one. Oh, that one, too.

Okay. Oh, now I just spoiled it. Oh, I forgot. That was even a thing. I just spoiled it. Okay. Yeah, and it's like, you know what? I guess they said, you know, we got to figure out a way to add that in there.

But, um, but in this movie here, like, What's the actress who plays Sarah Michelle Geller's sister? Bridget Wilson, like, I thought she's going to have a bigger role in here because I recognize her from Billy Madison and the First Mortal Kombat Movement. Oh, yeah. Okay. I knew I recognized her. I couldn't remember where.

That's her. That's Sonia. But, yeah, two years after that, and it's like, I'm like, oh, Bridget Wilson, I know who she is. thinking she was going to have a big role in here. And I'm like, I wanted to see more of her, you know, but okay. But let me see. What's the guy named the fisherman who had a crush on, on Jules? I think he was in, yeah, he was in Roseanne.

Okay. Oh, Johnny Galecki. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Big Bang Theory guy. Big Bang theory. Yeah, Big Bang. Yeah.

I couldn't think I'm going to say Young Sheldon, man. Yeah. Close. This movie here, I love how, yeah, it's like Justin Timberlake brought sexy back, but screen, and I know what you did last summer, they brought the slasher, the slasher genre back, man. Oh, man, Drew. Put that on a movie boxer, man. Then I think maybe we would not have gotten more screen movies or we probably would not have gotten an urban legend and some of the other slasher movies that came out around that time.

You know, but in this movie here, like, I don't know anybody who knew who that can honestly say when they first watched it. They knew who the killer was going to be because they took you down. I can see that. In all directions, you know what I'm saying? And, oh, and Ann Hesch here, that was before I even knew who she was, you know. Right. She had a small role. Yeah.

Is she did? Yes. Yeah, she died in the car work. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, she had a car. Her role in here, it was like, even though it was small, it was very impactful. And I think her scene where she ran back to the car and scared the shit out of Sarah Michelle Geller.

She would have got punched. Yeah. Throat punched. Yeah. Yeah. Like I thought that, I remember watching it in the theaters. Everybody in the movie theater jumped. Everybody jumped up. It was like, like, what the hell?

Why is she running to the car like that? You know what I'm saying? And it's like, you're sitting in your car. You're out in the woods. You would think you can hear somebody running, like some trees and stuff like that. She just was in full step mode and boom just by everybody's going. Right. The guy who plays Ben Willis on here, after rewatching this movie now, I recognize him.

Did y'all ever watch that show, Prison Break? Oh, yeah. I love that show, man. Yeah. He played on DB Cooper in there in the first, I think he was just in the first season or whatever. And I was like, I didn't know that was D.B. Cooper, man, because, like, for some reason when I was younger, I thought the dude that was the killer. I thought he was the guy in the first Predator movie. I thought he was the, let me see, what was his name?

I thought he was Billy from the Predator movies. The guy who, they told him getting killed, but he took the machine. And he drew the predator closer to him, and he drew blood and stuff. For some reason, I always thought that was him because his facial structure and his size, man. I mean, that dude that's been, well, that dude looked like he about six, three, six, four, or whatever kind of. But, you know, he, dude was brutal, man. Like, the scenes where he's hitting him with the hook, it's like, boom, boom. It sounded like those rocky punches when he's in the meat factory, just hitting this stuff.

Yes. Man, he, the way he did Ryan Phillips' character, and see, I'm thinking, I'm like, dang, dude, you, they showed you in the gym. You're doing your kickboxing and stuff. And you didn't even get a lick in, bro. What's the purpose for all that? You know, you're the one that's keeping them from getting your, well, I know that's your ex-girlfriend, but you're supposed to be there to protect him. You didn't get a lick.

Do you mess up your car. You know what I'm saying? You care about that car more than any way. He messed up your car twice. You hit him with the car and then he stole your car when you was in the gym working out. And you didn't get a lick on him. Like, come on. It was just gym muscles.

Well, he's definitely not going to be an NFL quarterback. If you know If you don't know how to get back up Right Yeah, you couldn't get up from that Man, how you go? Let me see Let me see who You're not going to be able to survive

Michael Strahan and Yeah Curse. That's who would have been After the back of the Yeah The freak, you know, but I like this movie, man.

It's a real good movie And like I say, I remember first watching it, I'm thinking, yeah, Freddie Prince Jr., he's the killer. And I'm thinking they, I'm thinking they tricking me because I'm like, normally in these kind of movies, they don't make it that obvious

that the person is the killer. But I'm thinking, well, that's how they're trying to throw you off. It's clearly Freddie Pratt Jr., you know? So, but I mean, hey, it ended up being Ben Willis. I never would have guessed that. And it kind of felt like... But they didn't really play fair. Like, he wasn't even a character in the movie

until like the end of it. And they were like, oh, yeah, he's the killer. Well, there's he been the whole time. I'm like, another red herrings. And when I think about what you said, which I said about the author of the novel, of the book of I know what you did last summer. Let's say it was more about pranks or it was more about these kids. They ran over somebody, but they thought they killed somebody and it had them to do with the intersection. then like, okay, well, we'll just add this killer there because Spring made a lot of money.

That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. You know what I'm like? And it's like, because I'm like, it seems is that Billy Blue or Freddie Prince Jr. is the killer. And this dude here comes out of nowhere. But I'm not going to lie. I thought as a villain when they revealed him, yeah, he was terrified, man. he was terrifying because at one point

I'm like this dude's supernatural like he just popping up and teleporting like Jason Voorhees like the whole scene where Sarah Michelle Gallard and I hate this scene because you could have gotten away but why did you have to look back for the fifth time you know

because it's a horror 90s horror movie I know but it's like it's like come on Like, this isn't Tucker and Dale versus evil. Come on. No, it's not. It's clearly not. But I like this movie. After watching this movie, let me see, two years from now, be 30 years old. I mean, it's still a good watch. Still a good watch. So I think it, so far, it's withstood the test of time, I believe.

Mike called a classic. Brian? What do you think? Oh, yeah. not my favorite but I do give it some respects because it is an iconic movie especially for the 90s it's definitely a good piece in 90s nostalgia I do have some

things I've noticed on this rewatch Tavares you thought Freddie Prince Jr. was the killer because he is a fucking horrible person in this movie they kind of all are right he is well we

Ryan Phillipi's character he's an asshole driving yeah Ryan Philippe's character is the asshole from the beginning yeah you know what you're getting yeah he was what he was

but for the prince junior I never realized of how much of a shitty boyfriend he is when Ryan Philip he grabs Jennifer Love Hewitt by the neck and holds over against the car and he's just like come on bro let her go

yeah bro oh oh Jesus yeah and rewatching this I do like

Jennifer Hewitt Jennifer loved Hewitt but I think the movie would have been a lot better Sarah Michelle Geller was the lead

probably because I felt like she had an arc to her character she was she was the more timid one in the beginning

but then you got that pretty pretty decent chase scene where she's actually goes from timid to fighting back.

Yeah. Yeah. And that final moment when she gets killed, I think the camera work is so good because you get that above view and you see how close she was from making it out if she just wouldn't have turned to look. Yeah. Heartbreaking, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was. It was.

But I think, I don't know, I just I felt like she would have been a stronger actress in that role instead of Jennifer Love Hewitt. I mean, she's a better actress. Let's pace it. Yeah, but Jennifer Love Hewitt had

that really innocent feel to her. At least that's the bye-bye got. Like she was, like right off the bat, I thought, okay, there's our final girl, right? Because she seemed like the least guilty, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, she seemed more like the

like the one that was closest to like a Nancy from Nightmarem Street kind of. Yeah, that makes sense. I never really thought about swapping them, Sarah Michelle Gallen. And yeah, when you think about her chasing, it went like, let me see, it went from like, I think, three different locations. The place where they had the ball and then, well, not the ball, the page. And then, well, no, no, the cop. Yeah, the cop, the sheriff who wouldn't believe her. Right.

The way he just did that sheriff was so gutter. And then, you know, she's locked in the back of the police car. She sees him coming. So that's a terrifying moment. From that goes into a build. Well, now she went to the store, the department store where a sister work at. And then, like, hey, open the door. open the door. So you got that old scene

right there. I'm like, she's going slow as shit. Got her sister killed. Yeah. Yeah. Her sister should have been fucking faster and they wouldn't have had that problem. And that's another thing I felt like they should have utilized more because her sister was a bitch.

Yeah. Johnny Galecki was a fucking asshole. You should have had them more in the movie. Yeah. To create the like you said, like you said, Phil. It wasn't really earned

with the killer because we never got to introduce his character. Yeah. I think it would have played better if you had more people involved that you thought could have been possibly the killer or involved. Because they kill all Johnny Galecki's character

what in the first 20 minutes? Yeah. A little quick, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was a suspect until he was until he wasn't. He was the first death. That's why I didn't. understand especially after re-watching it

like when you find out who the killer is he had no purpose to kill Johnny Kalecki's I know that's a problem that that's that's definitely a problem you know it was one of those who when they reveal who the killer is you're like well yeah

fucking fair and another thing I noticed she didn't another thing real quick that I noticed is Julie James is a unreliable person right is hallucinating all throughout this movie. I feel like that scene with Johnny Galecki's character in the trunk with the crabs,

hallucination. There's no way he cleaned up. Well, yeah, you couldn't have cleaned all that shit out. It would have smelled the high head. Yeah. And that final, the final jump scare scene when he jumps through the window after her. Sure. In the next movie, they acknowledged that that was a dream.

Okay. Oh, well, there you go then. She's just a crazy person. Yeah. yeah yeah because i always wondered about that because i'm like hold up because after rewatch it i'm like that's right they when she go back it's gonna it was because at first she thought it was on the um in the mail but that was something else but then when she goes back to the showers it was written

right like hold up but in the other one they didn't i don't remember them even mentioning that so it's like i wonder if the original plan was for her to be the killer. And they changed it midstream? Like, does that make sense, though? I mean, Kevin Williamson, he's a good writer. Yeah, I mean, it would have made sense. He'd make that mistake.

The way her character has a change after she goes to college, I mean, she looks out of it, the hair messed up. I mean, as much as they could mess, Jennifer Love, Hewitt of. Yeah, true. But just a complete character. change. It would have made sense if they would have made her the killer.

Because she was the only one that was like, hey, we need to like report this. We just hit a dude on the street. So we're all, we're all rewriting the movie to make it a better movie here, right? Oh, and you know what? That would have been a, that would have been a game changer, especially back then because it's like, oh, yeah, pretty original. With the female, um, where the female is the killer, you know. Sure.

Brian? You may have a future. You might want to get some scripts out there, man. Kevin Williamson, I'm coming for your job. They would have did what the directors were afraid to do with Jamie Lloyd, like in the Halloween movies. You know how like the post-to-bin. Oh, they dropped the ball on that one.

Exactly, massively, massively. Because it's like, all, y'all could have went on. to some next level stuff potentially with that. But having Jennifer Love Hewitt being a... That would have been the trip. Oh, man. Oh. Because they wouldn't...

Like you say, she has the good girl look, so her exterior, people wouldn't believe that. And that's her. That'll be her thing, you know, kind of like... Especially if she didn't believe it because she's crazy. Yeah, she's having hallucinations. Exactly. Another good point.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Anyway, an idea. Much better movie. Maybe. I mean, you guys nailed it. I would agree, like, it fell apart at the end, right? Like, I agree also.

I didn't like The Killer, who they made The Killer to be. I didn't like the setup. I thought it was super far-fetched. But as far as the movie itself, and, like, at least the first two acts of the movie, I was all in. Like, I hadn't seen this one in a long time, and I don't remember liking it.

Like, it seemed like I did enjoy it, you know, when it first came out. But on this watch, like, I like the way that they started with that weird goth summer breeze, right? That got version of summer breeze, like, real dark. And then, you know, you've got the good camera angle where it's going over. You see all the waves crashing. Then you see the dude standing up there and you're like, is this, is this the killer? Is this somebody who's going to get killed? You know, what's this dude doing sitting on a car?

cliff, right? So I thought that was a really good setup. So early parts of the movie, I really enjoyed the filmmaking style. So wait, that was the guy that they found that had killed himself, correct? Yeah. Yeah, that was the, the, the, the, the, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, jilted boyfriend, right? Okay. I got you. Um, yeah. So the first, I thought it was a, a, a situation where, like, the first two acts I really enjoyed in the third, and completely fell apart. But I did like all the stuff, like, you know, where they were doing the beauty pageant

and the Croker Queen and the little parade fireware. All that Fourth of July stuff really kind of puts you in like a summer holiday mood. Like, I got that Jaws vibe a little bit. Like, you know, where's the mayor saying, I know there's a dude going around killing people, but we can't shut down the fair, you know. For Christ's sake, tomorrow's the fourth of July. Yeah.

So, yeah, I don't know, man. To me, it was just inconsistent. But I did enjoy it more than I remembered enjoying it. I thought everybody put in a decent performance. Well, at least the two female characters put in a decent performance. Everybody else was just kind of hateable, you know. You didn't like Freddie Prince Jr.? Not really.

This character was so bad. Like, Ryan Filiki wants to be an NFL. quarterback. Sarah Michelle Geller wants to be an actress and soap operas. Jennifer Leffield wants to go to college. His big thing was,

oh, I'm just going to go to New York. Just to hang out. They like gave his character to nothing. Right, subways. Yeah. New York. It was a pretty awful character. Do some busking maybe, learn how I'm not the same as you guys. I don't have all the... Right. Oh, man.

Yeah. You're hanging out with him. Yeah. What are you doing? That's a lot of self-pity, man. He's like, Jules, rethink this. Yeah, I'll go down for this. Oh. And yeah, well, you probably would. You was driving.

You ran into somebody on the street, yep. It reminds. If anybody's going down for it, it's fucking going to be you, dude. Yeah, exactly. And if you go down, I ain't going down with you. Yeah. It reminded me of that scene on Sayy by the Bell when, when Zach hit another car when they was um oh and Lisa's car yeah yeah yeah yeah I know what's

talking about yeah I do old buddy is in the sunroove let him do his thing huh you focus on the damn road bro focus on yeah you got one job man you're clearly sober right um your girlfriend and her home girl let them deal with old buddy who's who probably's going to fall out of his own damn car but let him fall out sure well What else? He did spill that whole bottle of alcohol on Freddie Prince Jr. Oh, he did? I ain't can breathalize him.

See, you guys are saying this could have been an after-school special or something, right? Yeah, it could. It could. If he'd have done the right thing, which they didn't, and then they all died. Yeah. If your friends hanging out to Sunroof party and don't worry about it, keep your eyes on the road. Right. Yeah. And then it also made me think what was his name, Egan. Okay, so the guy thought in the very beginning, from my understanding, his girlfriend, who's Ben's daughter, had died in a, what was it, a boating accident or drowning or something like that? But he's...

I think she drowned at Camp Crystal Lake. Oh. They weren't watching. Now it all makes sense. he might have been one of the counselors she broke up with me so you know i didn't help her swim but um right i'm thinking i'm like well as a you know from a father perspective it's like okay this accident my daughter's dead you come out on state and who knows what story he told him and it's like well i ain't saying he should have ended him but i mean i understand because it's like i mean i understand

because it's like, I mean, he lost his daughter, but it's like, I never knew, like, exactly what happened and stuff. And then I think about, okay, so they hit him with the car. Right. I wonder if they would have rendered aid to him would have been a different story, you know, because it's like, well, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You would think so, right? And you jump in my body in the ocean. Well, like, didn't one of them say, call an ambulance and others said, it's too late.

he's already dead. Well, yeah. They really jumped to a conclusion, didn't they? But then, Freddie Prince. His face, it's all red. Yeah. Ryan, when his girlfriend says,

oh, my crown, he has my crown. Oh, God. God forbid. Yeah, you can't order another one, but he goes down. I think it was more so. Party City.

I think it was more so evidence. Yeah. True. Yeah, that makes sense. That's true. And he gets crowned. But there's a tug at it. So clearly you see this dude is a lot.

But yeah. He's already at the bottom. So. That's true. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I mean, so the next year when they come to you saying, yeah, somebody knows what we did. It's like not perspective because it's like, man, y'all left me to die.

That's a good point. Maybe they should have got it. Maybe they should have thought, oh, it's that guy that was still alive at the bottom of the ocean. Yeah, because why I should have suspected that from the beginning. My score is slipping lower and lower the more. We're over-thinking it. So we're not thinking like it. We're 824ing this movie a little too much.

All right. We're going to do a YouTube video. I know what you did last summer. Explained. It's a fun movie, but it's a scream reboot. It was never, I mean, I guess it's sort of a classic, but it's sort of on the edge of it at this point. Like, it was good because of the time that it came out and the people that,

because this had a hell of a cast. It's fair. Like, let's be fair. But, uh, yeah. I mean like story wise I you know

that's about the best I got for you it was an okay movie it was never one of my favorites I like it I don't hate the movie at all but did it need to remake this is not the movie

that I would have picked at all yeah kind of interesting choice I agree yeah All right. Scores. Tavaris, what do you think?

Historically, I always gave this movie like a 8 or an 8.5. Damn. Yeah, I mean, I saw this movie like five or six times. I was like 14 years ago. Okay. So like you said, though, like you got some movies. It's like it's perfect and it's better for that era that it was in. but when you try to copy and paste it in a current era after seeing other things and stuff,

and especially the evolution of the slasher genre and all that, it's like, okay. And then also, like, I never thought that it was as good as the first screen movie, but I thought that it was a good follower for the, for the, um, the slasher genre, you know? Okay. This is over until, screen two come out or whatever. So, you know, but so I'm going to still give it an eight because it's in that era. And in that era, yeah, it was, I kind of think of it as like, you got some players in certain sports, they were great for that era. But if you put them in the era right now

with certain players, they might not do well, you know, so, so. I mean, talent, though, is talent, you know, So that, yeah. But yeah, Babe Ruth ain't hitting dingers off of Verland. Drinking a six-pack every night before the game. Like if you put Michael Jordan in any error, he's going to tear it up. Right. I think you put Al-Cubei in any era, he's going to tear it up. You put a king.

Just got to learn the rules, the new rules or whatever. Yeah, exactly, you know. Yeah. But then, like I say, I thought even though the plot, we can break that down, dissect that all over the place, but the acting by the two female leads, I thought it was awesome. I mean, like I say, Sarah Michelle Gellon in, she got

this another slash movie where she get thrown off the dog on building. Yeah, they'll scream too the next year if she did that. There you go. She gets up, she survives, and it's like, that's such an amazing performance. And like I say, I never thought about what if they swapped roles, hurry Jennifer. Love Hewitt. But I like the idea. I'd be willing to watch it if they did. I'd rather, well,

we'll get into that later. Yeah, because I was more of a Jennifer Love Hewitt fan, though, to be yeah. Yeah. Yeah, me too. And, um, but that whole chase scene where the killer was chasing Sarah Michelle Gallagher. Yeah, I thought, I think that's, that's one of the greatest chase scenes in in a horror movie. I mean, because it went from like three different locations and then it's like, yeah, that's, that, that was definitely the high point for sure. Yeah. Yeah. The audience was with her. And then when she looked back and boom, he got him. Everybody was, oh, no, you know, it's like that was.

Yeah, you can feel it. Like I said that above you shot of how close she was, they just snatched survival away from her. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what I was like, oh, man. But that was a hell of a scene. But yeah, it's still an eight for me. So I'm going to keep that eight, that eight not going nowhere. I was going to give it a seven, but I keep replaying scenes with Freddie Prince Jr. in my head. The guy is the worst. Another scene that popped in my head was when Johnny Galecki pulls up on, pulls up by them on the road.

And, you know, Ryan, he's pretending to be sick throwing up. Yeah. And Freddie Prince Jr. goes to talk to him. and Johnny Galecki talks shit straight to him and all he has to say is, yes, sir, whatever you say, sir. Yeah.

I'm like, I'm not, I'm not letting this slide. Clearly this guy wants my girl. It's talking shit to me. I don't know. Maybe there's a reason the director didn't like him. Well, he also said Johnny Glecky,

he felt like didn't like. like him either on set. Oh. Oh, really? But they had problems. But they weren't supposed to like each other on the movie, so I'm okay with that. Yeah, maybe, maybe, Jonathan acting.

Yeah, method acting. I mean, I kind of want to bring it down to a six and a half, but I think seven's a good score for it. It is a 90s iconic slasher movie. Sure. Or maybe Freddie Prince Jr. is just a whiny bitch. It kind of seems that way, doesn't it? So. Sarah Michelle Galler, did they, is this when they started dating from this movie or would they date?

I think so. Okay. Okay. All right. He was there to meet girls, not act. Yeah. Would you give it a six? I'll give it a seven.

Seven, I think. Lance, what do you think? I'll give it a six, man. I kind of enjoyed it. It was, I liked it more than I didn't. But it was no, it was no scream.

How about that? Let's be fair. It was no scream. No. I'm gonna go, I'll go six and a half. It was definitely no scream. I just,

I'm not a huge slasher fan. I don't, I don't know. I mean, this was fun because it had all the 90s people in there, great cast. I love Jennifer Love Hewitt, like, had a thing for her for sure, especially at that time in my life.

But, uh, but, uh, but yeah, this, this was them doing a remake of this movie is like them doing a remake of like urban legend and trying to make it exciting. You know what I mean? It is on the same level to me. Yeah. I was, it was good. I didn't need a remake. we don't need the nostalgia for this one can just rewatch

this one. Yeah. Yeah, because it actually is a lot of fun to rewatch and like Jennifer Love Hewitt's little what are you waiting for thing with her arms all spread is a classic scene. And this movie, I think

borders on classic. Like they were like right there. I don't think it was but it was close. Yeah. And I'll definitely always remember it. All right. We'll move on to

I know what you did last summer from 2025, the brand new one. A group of friends are terrorized by a stalker who knows about a gruesome incident from their past. Wait. Last summer.

Are you reading the right trivia? I don't know. This sounds like trivia for 97. That's because it's a reboot. director is Jennifer Katyn Robinson also known for due revenge and

Thor Love and Thunder Oh that makes sense Writers are Jennifer Kate and Robinson Sam Lansky and Leah McKendrick The house where Julie lives is Buffy Summer

and Buffy Summers and Buffy the Vampire Slayer writer, director Jennifer Caten Robinson couldn't bring Sarah Michelle Geller Gellers Helen Schivers back to live for the sequel

in a conversation with Entertainment Weekly Robinson said she tried to relentlessly to fit Geller into the new I know what you did last summer but her efforts were not because Robinson could not maneuver around the fact that Helen Shivers is dead I tried

I harassed her but she's dead. Robinson said. I try to pitch some crazy shit too. Like, uh, what if you weren't dead and you're actually alive, but in hiding? And Sarah's like, I was on ice. Uh, I was the most dead a person could be. You could see my body. Uh, you could see my frozen body. I was like, yeah, but what if? And she says, I'm dead. I'm Sarah dead geller. She didn't, she didn't want to do it. Oh, she definitely wrote this movie, didn't she? All right. I know what you did last summer, the brand new and Savaris. What do you think?

So with this one, I pretty much felt the opposite like I did about the original one. Okay. Philip, I 100% agree with you. I don't get the purpose for redoing this one. Like, it, I didn't feel it. Like, even the cast, I didn't feel it. I didn't feel it. Like this, the original one, the characters, it's like, all right, well, I was, I cared about those characters a bit.

The characters in this one, I could care less. I could care less. Well, that Ryan Lepe character was a jackass. Yeah, but at least he had a little bit of personality. That's true. See, that's the thing. When you have in his acting in that, like, I think. thought he did a good job because that was his job for us to see him as a jackass as I asked

and I couldn't wait till he got ended and it's like part of me it's like I can't wait to see how he's going to go I don't think he's going to survive I don't fun seeing that's the best one how many of it is get a punch in there were opportunities he could have got a punch a leg sweep or something it's like what are you in this gym for but right this one here, like, yeah. Like, the bright spot of it was, is that we got to see

Jennifer Love, Hewitt. You got to see a cameo by Sarah Michelle Gowler. And we got to see Freddy Prince, Jr. So it's good to see them in there, and it adds that nostalgia effect to it. Me personally, I would not

have went in this direction if I was going to do a what's the term they're using for this, like a legacy, a legacy sequel. Yeah, legacy. Yeah, I would have did something different, but I get it. You know, you see a fake thing to start with. What are we making up words? What are we doing?

Yeah. Yeah, it's another word they use too, call a requal. A requal, yeah, recall. How about that? How about that made up word, Phil? Yeah. Yeah. That's a straight up made up word.

Yeah. That works. When I think about it, I think I heard that in one. one of the screen movies when they had their little talks about the movie genre within the movie. Somebody used that. I think that's the term, the phrase they used. But I wasn't aware about what the director was talking to Sarah Michelle Geller about trying to bring her back. Like, yeah, that, her character's dead.

You can't make her alive after that iconic scene that she had. No, her character's gone. But the fact that they was trying to entertain that, that's what I'm like, maybe they should not have done this movie. They should have did something else. But I wasn't feeling this one one bit. I mean, it was watching it. It didn't even feel like I know what you did last summer movie until you see

Jennifer Luff Hewitt or Frady Prince, Jr. Did the jokes land in the theater that you were in? they didn't land with me so i don't remember hearing anybody what do you mean jokes i don't remember a single funny joke in this movie but when you say the writers from thor love and thunder like yeah now i'll make sense comes full circle huh yeah because thorlove and thunder those two the jane getting cancer and the god butchers those are more serious tone storylines Sure. And it says, I get it, you're going to have some type of humor.

Yeah. But it was nothing like Ragnarok, the opposite of that. And it's like, they was just mocking everything. Yeah, it's kind of sick, wasn't it? Yeah. You know? It was a badass villain. He could have been really cool.

That's what I'm saying. The God Butcher, like, this dude here's a serious threat, man. Yeah. And they only give him unaliving one demigod. And it's like, yeah, that's, no. You didn't earn that name. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, come on, man. But yeah, I was not feeling this at all. And I still know what you did last summer. I thought that was okay. It was all right. I never saw. I always know what you did last summer.

Oh, you don't need to. Didn't know that was a thing. Yeah. Was that a Wayans Brothers parody or what? I mean, come on. It would have been better if it was. For real. That was straight to, what, VHS or DVD back then?

I forgot what year it came out. But I don't know. This right here, yeah, this movie here should have been like straight to stream, man. And it was two hours long. Yeah. Like fucking Megan 2.0. Why are these bad, or spoiler alert, Why are these bad movies so long this year?

It was kind of long. Who's editing these movies, man? Right. Shoot, like, I don't know, man. Yeah, the fact that it was two hours long, that's some Zach Snyder stuff. It's like... The Snyder cut.

Zach Snyder, I know what you did last summer. Exactly. Would have been better. Guaranteed. There would have been zombies and superheroes in it. Most definitely. He probably would have... the um, uh, uh, he probably

kill a supernatural or something. Yeah, absolutely. See, that would have been a good twist. I like that. I think maybe that's my problem with the original movie. Like, I,

it's just some dude that's killing people. I kind of like this shit. Made it from the bottom of the lake and, yeah. Like if there's a supernatural thing going on, all right, cool. I get it. Then it's scary. But if it's just a guy with a fucking book.

Where somebody wrote, I know what you did last summer in the Shire. So that's why I thought after the first one, I'm like, oh, well, they're about to go more supernatural. He may be like a Michael Myers or he's pretty or Chuckie or something. But they didn't. He's a human, you know. And it's like this one here. Yeah, I'll run. We're not doing spoilers right here.

No, not yet. Not quite yet. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, I wasn't feeling this one, man. Let me see. Scale the one to ten. No, we're not ready. We've not ready yet.

We've got a round robin, right? All right. Brian, what do you think? I'm kind of agreeing with Tavaris. I wasn't feeling it. It's not a bad-looking movie. I think it's shot well. The cast, I don't think they were terrible.

It's just I didn't feel like I had anybody to root for. The only one I did like in the cast was the blonde girl. Okay. She was funny. I don't even know any of their names. Just the blind girl, the brunette girl. The hot one. Madeline Klein.

The Sarah Michelle Geller character. Yeah, she was like a, but she was. was like a mix of different characters. Yeah. Because this is not a spoiler because it was in the trailer. Because when they hit, when they think they hit somebody, right. She's the one that's like, no, we got to get out of here.

We got to do this. We've got to do that. So she was, I felt like a couple of characters were a mixture of characters from the original movie. Sure. But then that's my problem. this movie relied too much on do you remember this do you remember this scene do you remember this location

dude I rolled my eyes hard many times really so if they would have had more more likable characters I don't know if they were supposed to be written that way because it's just good looking people that are going to die so you shouldn't care about them

right disposable yeah disposable but I think I would have liked it better if I had somebody to root for because the main girl, not the blown one, the other one that left for a while and didn't talk to her, I did not care nothing about her character. Me too. And yeah, it was just too much remember this, remember that. Yeah. And the kills to me, nowadays we're 20, 25. We've been there, done that one is slasher is you gotta up the ante with the kills and and show more than one on off actually show more than one actually on screen yeah and i will say the original's not that bloody

compared to this one but man they were just some basic kills and it just kind of killed and i and i seen the killer i seen who it was right yeah yeah i mean that made yeah well i won't Like from the beginning, right? Oh, when he got introduced. Really? Yeah. That soon. Damn.

Okay. That went past me for a while. I wasn't shocked at the reveal, but I wasn't like. I wasn't shocked because I knew who it was because I'm like, why are you still fucking here? And why are you still the worst person ever? Spoilers. Sorry. I don't think it's going to kill anybody.

If we spoil it a little bit. This was a movie that highlighted more than any other I've ever seen. Wow. Should we? Should we jump into spoilers again, Brian? Like we did a couple of weeks ago or what? Well, we know he's in the movie. I mean, we'll just, okay, I'm done.

You guys could. So we can hurry up get the spoilers. All right, Lance, what do you think? Oh, man. all right so I was I was actually kind of a little bit hopeful because I thought you know maybe they're going to do something clever or are they going to have like a big twist or something like that you know that they didn't have in the first one the supernatural I thought for sure they were going to introduce the supernatural elements so you know picture this if you will you're you're you're coming in here you're camera angling in to this fucking basically fucking 13 $15.5 million home. A bunch of fucking entitled pricks.

I do like that, though. I do like that. Do you? The complete change of because they basically jaws this movie. Can't have a killer around because

tourists. Yeah. I saw that angle. It would make sense that the people living there are living a lot differently than 97 if it became a big tourist place.

I guess that makes sense. Yeah. So, and they, didn't they call it like the, what's that super rich neighborhood in New York and the beach? Y'all know what I'm talking about. Manhattan Beach. What is it?

Manhattan Beach. The Jersey Shore. No, not the fucking Jersey Shore. The, goddammit. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Coney Island. All right.

Anyway, they called it that of the South or something. I don't know what state it was in, but I could, I hated every fucking character from the beginning. I couldn't relate to a single character. These guys were just a bunch of, oh, man, this was terrible. They were caricatures of what they thought 90s characters were. I guess. I just thought everybody was just like painfully shallow. You didn't like the blonde girl?

yeah yeah I did man I didn't like any of them and then the incident stupid but like she was funny I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell you this I was hanging out with the Tuesday night five dollar movie crowd and a lot of these guys meet up for a movie every week at this theater and we were having a blast laughing at this piece of shit and and we were laughing at places we weren't supposed to be laughing right but were you laughing during the jokes like I'm genuinely I didn't catch any jokes man I I didn't laugh when other people are saying stuff, but what's her name? Madden Klein de Blonde girl.

Yeah. She would jump in at a serious moment and bring a little levity to a moment, a little humor. She did. She got me chucked one a couple of times. But, I guess. So I watched it at home.

Okay. And so I didn't know, but like the theater audience that was in the fake-ass movie that I was watching. was not laughing at all. I was like, oh, that's a bad sign. Totally deadpan.

Like, every time they crack a joke and then, like, leave a little moment of, like, the audience is supposed to laugh here and nobody laughs. I'll give you, I'll give you an example, Philip. We all cracked up laughing at the, where the incident happened, right, at the beginning. And they're like, oh, my God, we're all going to go to prison for this. this is manslaughter. I'm like, nothing fucking happened.

Literally nothing fucking happened. This was not a big deal at all. This movie, I'm going to leave it at this. This movie gave me big time black Christmas vibes. Oh, you're fucking smoking drugs.

With all varieties. Which black Christmas? 2000. The new one. The new one. I did not like this movie. I did not. like this movie, but I cannot roll with that opinion.

That is... It's not the same. That is my opinion, and I'm sticking with it. I just felt it was the same filmmaking style. It was the same writing. It was the same lazy acting. It was the same, you know, caricatures of people. It did the same thing.

That's it. I don't want to spoil anything. I don't want to spoil anything. It's just not my favorite movie the year. Well, not much is this year, Vince. Dude, this year brought us six. Senators this year brought us bring her back. Come on.

That's two. Bring her back. It was good. I rewatch Sinners. Great movie. For starters. That's all you got, Lance, is too. All right.

So far, but it's early. We haven't even done our 31 days yet. It's about to be August. Okay. We named after two movies. Well, I'm going to tell you what, this one is not making the fucking list. It's making one of mine. Yeah, it may end up on the worst of, spoiler, I guess.

It was, like, I appreciate what they did. I didn't hate the movie. I just, the whole time I was like, why are we doing this? And, like, they, totally, it was weird. Like, they would try to get serious and then they would get real jokey, but the real jockey wasn't really funny. working. Yeah.

And it was, I don't know, man, it just, it didn't work at all. There was a couple of scenes I really did enjoy, I guess we'll get into those

and spoilers. But I really, those were the highlights for me and the rest of the movie. I kind of don't even remember what happened, nor do I care. That's not a good sign.

You remember who the killer was? Yes. Because that was one of my, real fucking hard eye rolls like especially towards the end it was like every time a new scene came and I'm like really paying attention

I was like oh fuck are you serious right now yeah all right scores Tavaris what do you think uh oh did we lose Tavaris no I mean like he may be frozen I think so all right Brian you want

start us down this is it's not the worst thing I've seen this year yeah for sure I have to give it a five it's a basic generic why did they make this

when they didn't have to yeah it was just more it wasn't horrible then you're saying it was more like just unnecessary then yeah unnecessary

paint by numbers too many moments so do you remember this from the original movie right and yeah it's it's just a basic movie

it's a five okay all right man one one out I couldn't stand a minute I had a blast watching it just because we were all making fun

wait wait you had a blast watching it but you gave it a one correct I don't understand I don't understand how I don't understand how your rating works. It's simple. I rate it based on the quality of the film, in my opinion.

So entertainment means nothing in your score. Because at the end of the day, aren't we here to be entertained? I was more entertained with the group that I was hanging out with. Are you not entertained? I'm so baffled by your score. I'm going one, man. I'm going one, man. I'm going.

All right, let's go through spoiler. Maybe the spoilers will change my mind. Maybe I missed something. I thought I'd shoehorn that line in since that's what they did in this movie. All right. I'm going to give it. You know what, though? Brian, you got a point.

It was kind of entertaining. I'm going to go four and a half. There you go. Yeah. It wasn't as bad as I made it sound. But like it was, it was completely unnecessary. And man, like, there was just a couple of moments where I was like, oh, I'm fucking done with this. Spoilers.

Yeah, let's go. Yeah, I think Tavares is trying to get logged back in. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

fucking Freddie Prince Jr. is the killer and I'm with you. Bill, I rolled my eyes. And my eyes almost came out. And yet you gave it a five. You liked it as much as you didn't like it. How did I,

how does your scale work, Ryan? How does your scale work? Hold on. How is a five more than, how is I liked it when I gave it an even number? Huh? Because it's even.

I liked it and I didn't like it. But you said I'm entertained. So entertainment means, nothing to you. If it's good entertainment, but this is more like just like, it's almost like I was torturing myself. So bad it's good, get some, get some points. It's not so bad it's good, though. I can't say that. Then you weren't entertained. Don't say, don't say you were entertained when you weren't entertaining. I can't say that, okay, fair enough, I can't really fairly say I was entertained by the film itself. I was entertained. I was having fun laughing at the stupidity

of the film with other moviegoers. How about that? Okay. Then that makes a lot more sense than you were entertained by the movie. One out of ten. But I... Intertained by Freddie Prince Jr.'s

Freddy Prince Jr.'s terrible act. Oh, my God. I've seen reality stars better than him. My eyes almost came out of my head when he said his reason why, because I got to let them remember. They're trying to erase us what we did. Cancel.

Cancel. Coul culture. Maybe it was a, that's what it meant. And I'm like, I'm watching it the whole time. I'm like, yeah, they're trying to make it. Of course, they're trying to erase the murders that happened there. They want people to come back to their town. They want money to be made. Yeah.

Or it could just ball apart. And another character that I rolled my eyes at was the obvious, I'm supposed to be the Freddie Prince Jr. character. Yeah. The guy that has a woman on his lap. right talking about punish me and he's like i gotta go for a walk yeah clear my head out right i'm like what are you doing well she's kind of a slut hey not throw out with that when you're that age man i wish i'd known more of her when i was in college or high school or whatever they're in

the one that really got me was uh was the what are you waiting for line i was like oh god Yeah. How about we're not going to put Sarah Michelle Geller in the movie as an alive character, but we'll put her back in a dream zombie. That was terrible. Actually, that was one of the scenes I kind of like. I kind of like the effects. And like her face sort of melted off and stuff, although.

She still looks good. Yeah, absolutely. She, like, totally could have played. I mean, maybe not played herself in her 20s. but not far from it. It looks pretty awesome. Clearly, all the aging is going to Freddie Prince Jr.

Yeah. I'm not sure I was a huge fan of the CGI of the melting face. I thought they could have done better at that in 2025. Yeah. Little disappointing. But yeah, I liked that one. And then I really liked the,

the fight scene between the jackass character. Teddy. Yeah. Not Ryan Felipe. Yeah. When he was like, oh, fuck this and like started kicking ass. And I was like,

damn. Now, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I want in a horror movie. Of course, he didn't finish the job, although he'd been stabbed multiple times. So I'd give him a little credit. But I've seen the whole Freddie Prince Jr.

and I kind of saw the one friend. Yeah. Because she had the whole stupid storyline of everybody ditched me when my father lost his money, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah. So was she related to Freddie Prince Jr. at all in that whole thing? He was like a friend of her fathers that he told her told him that he'd take care of her. Oh, okay.

I wasn't paying enough attention during that part. Apparently, nobody knew in this kind of small town that she worked for him. Yeah. And nobody knew that she used to go to the church where that car was stolen

from that night. And she didn't... She wasn't really a predominant part of the movie until then, except from the beginning, right? Yeah, she seemed to be not, around at certain points and I'm like you guys are painting the obvious picture here right Tavares what was what was the score you gave this one oh um I I give it a four a four okay that's kind of four right where everybody that's right and that's because of um the nostalgia

of it yeah Hughit Sarah Michelle Galler Freddie Prince Jr despite that ridiculous look but you know well yeah you know they should have found a way to bring Ryan Philippi back too what are you waiting for huh yeah yeah oh it's like they it's like they it's like they said

say the line you said in the first movie but don't put any emotion into it yeah but let me guess I think that was supposed to have been funny too according to the writers because they was making trying to make all these jokes and stuff so it and this movie proves my

point on how much of an asshole Freddie Prince Jr.'s character was. He turns out to be the damn killer. Yeah. Of course, he's divorced from Jennifer Love Hewitt because he's a dick. Also, she tried to attack him in the first movie and thought he was

the killer. Like, that's the person you're going to marry. She thinks you're a murderer. Yeah. Oh, let's not, we're not talking about the second one. She wins a trip to the Bahamas or something. tells invites him he doesn't want to go because she's supposed to come back to wherever the little fishing town is yeah and he's mad that so he doesn't want to go and he was going to propose to her i'm like you idiot you could have proposed her in the bahamas no shit yeah

he got to have it his way i guess but i mean it makes it goes back to like what i was talking about in the first one, for the most part, it seemed like he was the killer in the first one. You know? But I guess they went back and changed it because it's like

that would have been too obvious. Let's hit them with this ultimate surprise or whatever. But, I mean, he, I don't know. That, this movie here,

man, it, it just don't hit. I mean, I mean, this is something that they, you know what? I know what they have,

I know what you did last, summer series. I think it's on prime. I haven't checked it out yet. I launched first episode. I tapped out. Okay. Okay. So it's like, I don't know. Maybe that's better than this. But, and the whole, um, did y'all talk about,

um, we're in the spoiler section, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I thought it was cool to see Brandy's character return at the end. But I'm like, maybe the movie would have been a little bit better had you add her in the movie as well because it's like nobody cares about these new characters y'all brought in the mix and what was that was it scream for so it screamed four and i think they was trying this movie here was trying to be more like a screen movie because in the screen movies nev campbell

corny cox david arquette they they're consistently they had they consistently have a comedic element to it and stuff, but I think that's more of the casting that you have with it. The first, I know what you did last summer, to me, I don't recall any comedic moments in that movie, but in all the screen movies, yeah, they have a comedic element to it. So it's like, you're not screen. Like, be who you are, be, I know what you did last summer, because you can't be scream. You know what I'm saying? I mean, that's, that's what scream does.

so trying to make jokes in a serious situation on this movie yeah that that's just that just made it worse because now you're stripping it from from what it originally was back in the day so I mean the first one the second one there's no real comedic elements like I said I never saw the third one

but it shouldn't be no comedic elements in the third one I don't think we have to base anything off the third one yeah Oh, they're the comedic elements in the third one, but they weren't intentional. Okay. And see, that's the thing. You know, they were intentionally trying to throw in comedic elements on this movie, and it has more of a serious tone.

And, you know, in Freddie Prince, Jr., like I say, him being the killer like that. So I don't know. So I guess that's the end of him. I mean, so. And I'm confused with some of the characters, like. Teddy, the Ryan Philippi character. Yeah.

His dad's the sheriff, but he owns a yacht. That's a good point. I mean, I think sheriff is an elected official, but like, why is he so rich? Didn't he also own that hotel they went to? Yeah, they were super rich.

Huh. Yeah, that sheriff, yeah, he's doing more than fighting crime. He's doing something. He's committing the crime. I would have liked, like how I said in the first movie with Johnny Galecki, how they would have made us think it was the, because I never thought it was the father, the sheriff.

Yeah. You know, and you know how we talked about at the end of the first one. So somebody wrote, I know what you did last summer in the shower. At the end of the second one, somebody wrote that in their bathroom or on their wall or something. Shit, man. And maybe that was Freddy Prince Jr. character all this time. Maybe he was doing that.

Maybe. It's like, and if he was doing that, okay, well, combining with the fact that three-thirds of the first one, I thought he was the killer. All right, well, it wouldn't be surprising if he is the killer, but. I think it should have been, it should have been Jennifer Love, Hugh, it. Yeah. Based off of what we wrote for the. our version of the first one, her hallucinations overtook her, and that's why he, that's why he divorced her.

Yeah. Yeah. I actually half expected her to be part of the team there for a second of like Freddie Prince Jr. and Jennifer Lefewitt. Yeah. They were, they were the killers. Yeah, but that would have been something. That would have been something for real because,

but they, they was too scared to do that back in the 90s, man. They weren't going to do that. You know, that's, that would have been, because let me see, had they did that, the most popular female killer in a horror franchise prior to that was, I mean, who was it, Angela on, what's the, what's the camp movies, the camp slash sleep away? Yeah, sleep away. Oh, yeah.

But, yeah, that would have been something, man, you have, outside, you know, she's a good girl. She would have been like the younger version of, what was that movie with Kathleen Turner? Serial mom. You wouldn't expect her to be a killer. You know what I'm saying? She all nice and stuff, you know? But she's like crazy. She wore white after Labor Day.

But no, like she's crazy. And so she's trying to solve these murders and figure out who's killing all her friends when in reality it's her. And she doesn't realize that she's doing it. Oh, yeah. Because they kind of do that. They kind of do that in a movie where she's at home. And then all of a sudden she has flashbacks of all the dead bodies. almost 30 years ago

and I'm like okay you're you got some things going on in your head why not make you the killer instead of Freddie Prince Jr. with his whole they're trying to erase us I'm going to make them remember like get out of here the whole ending in this movie was fucking stupid

like the last 15 minutes was awful yeah it'll be on be in about a few weeks or something. But I can't believe they green let this to go. I can't wait to see what the box

office numbers are off of this. I mean, because so far my darn off of $18 million budget, which is not big for movies nowadays. Over the weekend, it's already grossed $29 million.

So not a big but it's already made it. It's reduction budget. But if they made $10 million off of it, that's pretty good. Well, it looks like we're going to have a sequel. And they brought Brandy back, so. I don't know who's going to be the killer anymore. They killed off a, what is not?

Dude, he's really a pretty prince's junior. He's really not a good actor. It's like what I came away with from this movie in particular. I was like, wow, this is, is he phoning this in? Or is he just this bad? Like, maybe he was just a one-note guy in the 90s. From what I understand, when they started production on this, they didn't even have Jennifer Love Hew and Freddie Prince Jr.

Locked down to be in the movie. They just showed up for a couple of days of filming at the end. Like when they officially signed them, I think they were already well into production. So you're probably right. They were probably on set for maybe a week at the most. Yeah. Which means they totally changed what the storyline was

going to be. It's probably better than what it was. But you know what? They probably needed those two to sign on in order to get a theatrical release probably. Yeah. For sure. Yeah, because otherwise nobody cares. Exactly.

Exactly. You know, so it reminds me of, what was that, when they were making Halloween H20, like when they first started pre-production, they didn't have, Jamie Lee Curtis wasn't signed to it So they was like, well, they was going to release it straight to VHS. But once they got her to sign in on it And they gave her like a producer, they told her we'll give you a producer credit Or something like that or creative credit.

Then it's like, okay, well, now we can release it in theaters Because she signed on to it. So, yeah, they, you had to get them to in. Like I saw one podcast, the dude was talking about how, let's see, with Freddie Prince Jr., he signed on before even seeing the script or knowing the script. Sure, he, I don't know what he's doing,

but I don't see him in a lot of movie roles. And they was talking about he, and with him, he's very picky and he turns down a lot of roles. That's what, I forgot who I was listening to and he said that. And it's like, but the dude who did the, review on it he was like

but I'm pretty sure after he signed on and saw what the script was and what they did to his character he probably wished he would have saw an action script first you know because it's like yeah man that I mean as bad as

his acting was in the previous two like his character and Jennifer Love Hewitt's character we care about those characters and then it's like okay this movie here oh they're not together Yeah, which they didn't even, I know, I can't remember, but I don't think they even gave a reason why. They're just divorced and they hate each other.

Yeah. And it's like, after all they went through on those first two movies, I'm like, man, come on now. And they hate each other to the point where he shows up to her house and he says he's there to check on her because of the way things are. And then she's like, why are you really here? Oh, yeah. Like, oh, you guys hate each other. Mm-hmm. But she said that, did you want another 30?

minutes to this movie? She said, I thought a killer was coming, but it's worse. It's just, it's you or something like that. That's what I'm like, oh, wow. I'm like, okay, well.

Bad breakup. It would have made sense if she knew he had these psycho tendencies, like she found like some old notebook where he scribbled in or weird shit. Yeah.

I don't know. I'm trying to make this movie better than it. I know, right. Yeah, I don't think we can. I don't think we can. Like that, yeah, they should have brought that, they should have brought this movie to us before they released it, me. Yeah.

All right, let's fix this story. Yeah, I mean, they straight up did this the way they did Thor four. I mean, this movie here has, if you was going to go to comedic route, then, you know what? Go, go call, um, go call the Wayne's brothers. Yeah, they should have just, Let the blonde girl have all the comedic moments. Yeah.

Everybody else played straight. If she was the only character that was trying to be funny, I think that would make sense because she actually was kind of funny. Yeah. And like there was a little part of me that liked the douchebag character, the Ryan Felipe guy. Yeah, I kind of liked him too. But like, he's definitely a douchebag, but it's kind of funny.

Yeah. And see, nowadays, you have actually, it's kind of starting to trend a bit where you have comedians doing horror, where you had Chris Rock producing a saw movie. Yeah. There was nothing funny about that movie. Was it the best saw movie? No, but I didn't think it was the worst.

You have Jordan Peele, okay? Like, if you would have told me 10, 12 years ago, he'll be doing horror. I'd be like, no way, man, no way. That's true. But he's actually doing serious horror movies. And so it's like, if you want to go to comedic route, okay, well, you go, go, go hire Jordan Peele or go find somebody else who's like a comedic. And the mullet guy that did Halloween. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Danny McBride. Yeah. Like, this would have been perfect for him, you know? So it's like, come on, man. That, I think that could have worked, actually.

Yeah. Yeah. That would have worked. Because see, then he would have been able to identify. I'd be like, listen, this is not funny. I don't know what's going on in your head. This is not funny. And it's like, now I want to dive deep into whether or not if they, you know,

how they do the test screenings with test audience and stuff, like months before they release it. Like, were people actually laughing at this stuff? Or did they feel like, well, we need to add this to it based on our test screenings? But still, get somebody to watch that. Like, who was laughing at that, man? Like, come on. Yeah. All right.

Well, that's, I know what you did last summer. One of the fuck is called. DeVaris, you want to shout anything out before we head out? Man, shout out. WMBA, man. I hope they get paid. Hopefully they get their money. You know, I'm always room for people.

who's striving to get what they feel like they deserve. But important key to that is, you got to negotiate proper negotiations. I thought about this the other day. It's like, you know what, it would be cool if they did a Jerry McGuire sequel and have the whole movie. He's trying to get the WMBA players higher pay, you know, because if anybody can do that shit, either is Jerry McGuire or Ari from the entourage, you know what I'm saying? I think that would be cool prop points. I think they're going to have to figure out how to make the league make more money first.

Well, yeah, that's a big thing, too. But, man, them owners got, they got money. They got negotiated if you ain't holding no cards. You know, at least, at least Gilma, I think they got enough to get them each and every one of them, the chance to negotiate for a 10% raise or something. I mean, because since the past two, three years, the coverage, it's been more coverage on the WNBA. I haven't seen this much coverage of it probably since like maybe the first

four or five years when it existed. So it's a solid league minimum. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. But when you got Caitlin Clark 75,000,

no, no. Well, but she should be made. But you start throwing in promotions and stuff. She's making millions. Well, yeah, but that's sponsorships.

outside stuff. Yeah. You know, because the most money that a lot of those owners are making is because the games that she's part of. So it's like, all right,

you give, because if you just have her at $75,000, you make it harder for the players who are not on her level, skill-wise and stuff, to even demand the race. Because I'm like, well, Caitlin's getting 75.

You know, you take your 55 or whatever, and it's like, man. But that other league they have unrivaled, they actually have a competitor right there. So it's like you better do something before those ladies just start joining that. But yeah, that's my shout-out. WNBA, hopefully they get their money.

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