The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #487: Downhill (2016) & HIM (2025)

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

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Glad to be back this week. Sorry, I missed these guys last week. And shout out to Tavaris for joining. But we've got, as always, we've got Philly the Kid and Brutal Brian. What's up, guys? So how we changed Phil's name? I don't know. It's always changing.

It changes every time. How was Russell Paloza? I got a friend that's really into it and he said he was disappointed. Yeah, for Russell Palooza to be the next new era, the first PLE on ESPN, it was not the matches were bad. It was they wanted to be like SummerSlam. or WrestleMania, something to look forward to that, like, every year and it was not even close to even being on that level.

John Cena. The main event, I kind of was dozing off. That's what I heard from others. John Cena showed up, though, right? Yeah, well, this is his final year. He's got, this was, like, after this, he only has, like, four more matches, and then he's done. Okay.

He had him open against Brock Lesnar and it was a complete squash match. Brock won in like, I think like five minutes. I was a little hand down. Had all the kids crying, all the John Cena fans crying. We kept zooming in on the little kids and you can tell their fathers are like, no, John's okay. Don't worry. Right.

Jeez. Brock came. Brock is, he looks like he's bigger than he's ever been. That's what I heard. Yeah. So disappointing. Well, you know, I guess you get going to have it every year now, huh? I hope this is a one-off.

This is a stupid name, Russell Palooza. It's kind of down. It's like a generic WrestleMania name. Yeah. I'd be like Russell Palooza at your local YMCA. Yeah. Yeah, I always preferred law. Allopalooza in Chicago, you know.

Yeah. All right. Moving on. Cool of the week. Who's diving in first? I guess I'll jump in. I think the only thing I've watched this week is Alien Earth and football. That's a good combo.

Nothing wrong with that. I was maybe a little let down by the ending. Because it's only eight episodes, right? Yeah. Oh. It kind of leave you here. Okay. Well, that's because they want to do another season probably, right?

Well, I'm sure, but I don't know. It also got a little silly at the end. Uh-oh. Jump the shark or? It was still good. I liked it, but I agree with Phil. It wasn't. There was some things that I was hoping to happen,

specific person that I wanted to see. he get his. And it didn't happen. Well, and then when you see the alien in broad daylight, it's really obvious that it's a guy in a suit. Yeah. And so that that makes it a little tough. I mean, I appreciate that they did the practicals, but yeah.

There's a reason that the first ones were all shot like in the dark. In the dark. Yeah. That's right. still a solid solid show yeah definitely very good that's gonna be on the top 10 list for shows for sure yeah even even with the math ending huh yeah i mean i didn't hate it it just like it just stopped i hate those i need you to wrap up a story yeah what do you call them a penultimate episode it kind of felt like that

like this was the episode before the finale but it was the finale yeah huh like I half expected I was like maybe he's wrong maybe there's more episodes

yeah maybe they'll do maybe they'll release a secret episode in six months or something you know probably not I think they knew when they're saying

this was a limited series I think they knew the whole time that they had had something good and they're just going to squeeze another season out of it. Yeah. Well, it makes sense. As long as they close up the story in the second season, I'm happy with that.

Yeah. So Alien Earth? Yeah, I think that's it. All right. Brian? I'll run through mine real quick. Shows I'm watching. We just talk about Alien Earth.

Burning through Walking Dead with my daughter. We're halfway through season six already. Okay. Is that, you're past the governor now? I mean, past the governor, we're at Alexandria, the little community. Okay. Okay. Where they were completely unprepared for the outside world. Yeah. That place doesn't make any sense. Yeah.

Okay. Checked out the first episode of a new crime thriller on Netflix called Black Rabbit, starred in Jude Law. and Oh, yeah. Jason Bateman. Okay. I think I saw a preview for that.

Yeah. Looked interesting. I'm going to continue it. Not a lot happened in the first, a lot of setup. Basically, Jude Law runs a successful

like restaurant slash club called the Black Rabbit. You know, he's doing this thing handling business and Jason Bateman plays his brother who lives in another state.

He's kind of like the fuck up. of the family. And he owes some people money to where he has called his brother, tells him, I need you to get me on a plane, get me out of here, gets back. And during the show, he runs into people that he owes money there. So he owes a lot of money.

And I think he's going to do something to get his brother's club involved. Gotcha. Does he play it straight or is he kind of comedic, somewhat comedic? He's kind of a smart ass, but not like comedic smart ass. He just kind of has a little smart shit to say back to people. He plays Jason Bateman. Bait, exactly. Gotcha.

Understood. Checked out that. Checked out the first episode of Tulsa King. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. And I saw the preview for the rest of the season. We're going to get Sam Jackson, which I found out. He's getting his own spinoff series from this called Nolia.

Okay. No. No. No. No. Yeah. Where he was like, basically he was like

the Stallone of New Orleans. I'll be damn. That could get interesting. Okay. Yeah. So let's see.

Movies. I checked out two screeners. One I'll talk about next one. All right. It was called the drowned. The drowned. I think I've heard of that one.

basically an art heist happens with these four people they all meet at this like beach house it's like the safe house where they're all supposed to meet at after the house the three guys showed up but the the one female that's part of it doesn't show up and something bad happened to her and you need to think it was one of the three guys that took her out or maybe was something supernatural that has something to do with the water in the beach house. Great cinematography. Okay. Okay.

The acting was decent, but man, this movie was fucking boring. Really? Nothing happens. I didn't even feel... Artsy, was it real artsy, Brian? No. Okay. You got this situation where you feel like it's something supernatural.

Yeah. But also you got the... the other situation where maybe one of these guys took her out to, you know, get more money out of the deal. So that should bring up the tension and stuff like that. But it just doesn't. I was checking my phone. Did they run out of budget? No, it's shot well.

It's shot very well. It's edited real good and cinematography looks good. It's just the story was just, man. Maybe there's some potential then for the filmmakers. Yeah, I see potential in that. It's just, you know, tighten up on the story. Because that kind of situation, I hear that situation. I want to watch the movie, but there's just nothing happening for the entire movie.

I got you. They even play a game of a, what's that game where you like to tell three things about yourself and two of them, only one of them is true or something like that? Yeah, it's like two truths in a lie, I think Yeah, something like that They're like these women come over And you think, you know, why are these women Happen to be here at this safe house?

Something funny going on And then they play this game and you're like, okay, where is this going? Then the fucking game just keeps going and going Okay, I'm like, maybe this is how we find out about these people You would think. And just after a while, just like do something else. Why are we still playing the game?

Oh, boy. Can't recommend that. Checked out Night of the Reaper, a new home invasion babysitter horror thriller on shutter. Pretty decent.

Good, good. I was hoping. Typical premise, but it has a twist at the end, and it has a real 80s retro feel with the credits. It kind of has the tracking VHS thing. stuff like that. I like it. Pretty decent.

Checked out Strange Harvest. This is kind of a mockumentary found footage movie from the people that made grave encounters. You ever see those movies? Yeah, they're fun. Yeah, same style with the found

footage, but you add in the mockumentary stuff about this serial killer that was killing people, ritual, ritualistic killings back in the day, and then he disappeared and then he shows up again. So they're kind of going through that. Pretty decent.

I probably would prefer the Grave Encounter movies over this, but I still think this was a decent watch. What was that one on? Out there. Oh, okay. Brian rented it. Yes. I rent everything.

Checked out Nobody 2. No, that's right. I haven't seen that. I haven't either. Basically, nobody won with just a couple things flipped around. And instead of dealing with everyday working stuff, he is on vacation. Oh, basically people won't fucking leave this man alone. Some good action.

You get a lot more Christopher Lloyd this time. Okay. So it wasn't as good as the first one, but it's still a fun watch. yeah i wanted to check that one out in the theaters i didn't get the chance and the last movie i checked out was the fantastic four first steps oh that's that's your cool of the week huh yeah yeah kind of good effects i i like the cast yeah i like how they portrayed all their powers but it was almost two hours long and they would have cut maybe 20 30 minutes out i think it would have been a lot more

better. It was just, I know who the Fantastic Four are. I've seen all the movies. I've seen, I even seen the unreleased Roger Corman shit 1990 movie. So I know them. I don't need to get to know them in the beginning. Yes. So just kind

of throw me in there having them do shit already. Yeah, I think that could have worked. Yeah, but I was... They had to let you know they're rebooting it, so we have to go through the origin story again. I do like seeing the proper Galactus in the movie

other than a... Galactus looked cool. Yeah, Galactus looked cool. Ralph Innocon doing the voice was perfect too. So, I didn't hate it, but it was a little disappointing. Yeah, kind of meh, right? Let's see. Definitely better than the other fantastic four movies, though. Oh, yes.

Way ahead of those ones. I don't know. The Corbin one's my favorite, Brian. Yeah, we should do a commentary on that one. If it's still your favorite after. All right. Let's see. I guess

Strange Harvest. Strange Harvest. Okay. Okay. All right. Let me write that down. So we got strange. Definitely not. Russell Palooza. It's definitely not. That's the uncool of the week. Snoose-Fist.

I got you, man. All right. Let me get let me get these noted and set in stone. So let me get... And the ESPN wasn't happy. You keeping track of them? It wasn't? I keep track of the cool of the wheat. Yeah, ESPN was not happy either with Russell Palooza.

They graded it as soon on their website. And what did it air on? ESPN. ESPN. The brand is ESPN. Uh-oh. Oops. Way to come out of the gate wobbly, huh?

Yeah, what can you do? Yeah, what is it like 20 bucks a month, I'm guessing, for the ad or something like that? But there are ways. There are ways. Are there? Yeah. They get me with Monday night football sometimes, but I don't have the USB in it. That's the thing irritates me.

We have ways of making your talk. Mm-hmm. Okay. Is that it, guys? I got some catching up to do, right? Because I was done last week. We were talking before the show about the several movies this year that you guys caught on time and I didn't.

And one of them was dangerous animals. So I finally got a chance to see that. It was fun. You know, I mean, yeah. It was a fun shock movie, you know? Yeah. He makes a good killer. He makes a great killer.

He makes a great killer. But it wasn't a great movie. So for a great movie, I went and did a rewatch of The Hunt. You guys remember this one? I think so. I have not seen that movie since it came out. So what was that like 2020? Yeah.

And it's, I think, yeah, I think, yeah, because it was either right, yes, it was right before. It was the last movie I saw before they shut everything down. That's exactly. There were people. Yeah, like you'd jump, Philip, when somebody in the movie theater coughed, you know, that type of thing. Yeah. So, yeah. I do remember that.

Somebody, somebody coughed in my theater and somebody was like, get the fuck out of here. All right. Well, look, I love the hunt. It was my strange time, man. It was a strange time, dude. It's still strange times. I love The Hunt, right? It was my favorite movie of that year.

It does age well. Five years later, it does age well because, Basically, you've got these, I guess you'd call them kind of like elitist, like liberal elitist, if you want to call them that. And they're sort of rounding up these people that they call incorrigibles. And it's just like, you know, normal working class people that have said the wrong thing or done the wrong thing. And on retrospect, consider this was made five years ago, it really says it says a lot. Yeah. It's still a fun watch.

I still enjoyed it. And then they, they fucked up and picked the wrong person and, and she wasn't supposed to be there. And she ended up kicking everybody's ass. So that was fun. Rewatch of the Hunt. What else did we do? Oh, Tavares talked about it. Tavaris talked about last week, the girlfriend, the six episode series about the, the two women who are both absolute lunatics.

It's kind of like a monster-in-law type thing. from the younger girls perspective and then from... With Jennifer Lopez? What's that? Monster Law with Jennifer Lopez? That's the one, right? Yeah, because when they're doing the show, the half the episode is from the younger girls' perspective, right?

The one that falls in love with the rich son. And then the mother, played by Robin Wright, is the second half of the show, right? So you get each of their perspectives and how the scenes change based on what they, interpret the other means or whatever. So like when you're seeing it from the young, the young lady's point of view,

you know, she's like a monster in law. And when you see it from the mom's point of view, she's like this gold digger. It's like doing everything to fuck things up. And then it, it reminds me a lot, Brian,

of that Netflix series beef from a couple years ago. Like things just escalate. They keep fucking with each other's lives and fucking each other up more and more. It's a good one. watch. I'm reading our buddy Joe Lansdale, a Western that he wrote. A couple of years ago that they made into a new movie with Peter Dinklage.

It's called The Thicket. So it's, yep, nice to get into a good old Western. I also saw the premiere episode of Tulsa King, and I'm like not super impressed with it. I know you're loving it. What season are they on now? To me? Three. Okay, I got some catching up to do.

Okay, Brian, to me, the last 30 seconds jumped the shark. I don't know where they're going to go with that. You know what I'm saying? Like that huge, never mind. We'll see where it goes. I caught a couple episodes of Peace Maker. Always fun. But my cool of the week is, I'm on the westerns kick right now.

It's a little movie called Americana. Do you guys heard of this? With Cindy Sweeney? Yep, that's the one. Yeah, this is. I haven't seen it. It's, yeah, Americana. It's a modern day Western, right?

Yeah. It's said in modern times. And it does a little bit of that Tarantino type storytelling where it's not totally linear. So you get one scene and then like somebody dies and then the next thing you're like, what the fuck? They're still alive? So they kind of jump around a little bit. But it's great, man. It's just a basic.

It's not really a revenge story. It's not really a high story. but it's kind of a little both, if that makes sense. So, yeah, check it out. It was refreshing, man. In my opinion, I loved Eddington, but this was a better modern-day Western than Eddington because it was more true to the genre.

Okay. So I enjoyed it. Okay. All right. I guess at this point, it's time to go to horror headlines, hosted by Brian. Are you guys familiar with Tim and Eric?

from the Tim and Eric show. Love it. Yep. Love it. Tim and Eric, awesome show. They are writing a horror movie. It's going to be great, dude. I promise you, it's going to be amazing.

All these comedians. So the duo said is writing a sick and twisted horror movie, one that Tim says might be too much for most audiences. They always say that, don't they fill up? People are throwing up in the theaters. if anything, I know it's going to be weird. Very surreal. Yes, very surreal.

Let's see. Hayden Panitieri was confirmed for a scream seven earlier this week. Then a couple days later, she was unconfirmed. So I don't know if they announced it too early, if they were supposed to announce it at all. Well, I made my notes before we got this, but I do know third channel podcast chimed in with something about that. So I'll read that next week.

Or listeners just go to our Facebook group, and you can see what they had to say. Nope Star Brandon Pereira has joined the cast of Insidious Six. He'll star alongside Lynn Shea, Amelia Eve, Maisie Richardson Sellers, Sam Sparellrell, and Island Austin. Dahan could be in the new movie in that series and it would still fucking suck. Those have gotten so bad. Oh, that's not possible. Are they going to have the Scooby-Doo Mystery Machine van in this one? I don't know.

They might. Let's see. I mentioned grave encounters earlier. Justin Long and his wife, Kate Bosworth, are producing a, remake to Grave Encounters with the original directors involved in directing and Justin Long is also going to star in the movie. Okay. I think that could work because

Grave Encounters didn't really get a whole lot of you know media when it was around. Yeah, sure. So having these people attached its eyes on it. So let's see, Keenan Thompson's production company AFA which I believe is

short for artists for artists is rebooting sleepaway camp with the original creator Robert Hitzlick who's coming back to write and direct could be fun

I wonder if they're going to change the twist at the end I don't know but I'm liking what his company's doing his company's also doing a macho man biopic and if you guys know anything about if you guys know anything about his life that's going to be a crazy movie wild ride oh yeah and let's see fire last little news thing here is martin scorcese is set to direct

what happens at night an eerie adaptation of peter cameron's novel the film will star leonardo decaprio and Jennifer Lawrence production starts early 2026. It's got the talent. Yeah? That new movie Leo's in is supposedly good.

It looks really good, man, doesn't it? Yeah, I know that's seen people give it like 9 out of 10. Seeing one person give it 10 out of 10. Yeah, that means Niz is guaranteed 10, right? It looks at it. It looks in, I don't know. It may not be his cup of tea?

If Ness hates it, then it still might get like a seven. Yeah, I know. You never can't tell you. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. Because I always remember Alien Romulus when he was like caught up, hung up on one thing. And I'm like, wow, do you hate this movie?

And then he gave it like an eight. Generous guy. generous guy oh that's the news all right that means it's time to take a little trip down to the trailer part Brian is going to bring us the big the small and sometimes the very very weird

what's our first new trailer tonight Brian our first one is a Paramount Plus original titled vicious directed and written by Brian Bertino I believe he wrote maybe directed the original Stranger movie

and this stars Dakota Fanning synopsis goes a woman spends the night fighting for her existence as she slips down in a rabbit hole contained inside a gift from a late night visitor. Okay.

What did you guys think of vicious? I like it. Yeah? I definitely want to watch this. Yeah. It's got potential. idea. I like the premise. You get this gift from this lady and you have to basically the rules. What does it say something you can't do without something you hate, something you love, you got to put in the box.

And I like the scene where she tries to go to the neighbor's house to get help and then whatever supernatural force makes the neighbor like kill herself. Ooh, yeah. I don't know, man. It didn't grab my attention. attention that much, but, you know, hey, dude, it's coming straight to Paramount Place. Plus, I'm going to watch it. Is it in October, Brian? Yep, October 10th. Perfect. All right.

I'll check it out. I'm a little surprise. That one's not in the theater. It looks like a theater kind of movie. I think originally, I think I posted something about it. It was originally supposed to go to theater, but then they were just going to, like, I think they needed more content on Paramount Plus. because I think

basically they just got a bunch of shows and they don't have a lot of original movies so I'm not mad at it it's a little red flag though you can only run so many South Park reruns right yeah let's see our next trailer

or more of a teaser I can't tell nowadays sometimes teasers be like three minutes long right yeah uh Maggie Jelenhall's The Bride. Basically her adaptation of the Bride of Frankenstein.

Also written by Maggie Jillinghall. Okay. Stars Christian Bale as Frankenstein's monster. Jesse Buckley as the bride. And I'm sure this was hard for her to get in the movie. Jake Jelinehall. I saw him. What did you guys think of the bride?

I mean, it could be really good. It looks silly. It looks like kind of like a mashup of Frankenstein and the bride of Frankenstein with Bonnie and Clyde. Yeah. Ah, yeah. Yeah, it does seem like that. But Christian Bale, every time he comes on screen, I'm like, what?

I know, I know. I mean, he's a good actor, though, so, you know. maybe I'll get into it. I've got faith in this movie. I think at least it's a really original concept. Like you guys said it's a weird mashup. And yeah, when he got into that gangster voice, like, hey, see, I'll take care of you.

You're my girl, see? All right, I'll give it a shot. I mean, it's something different. It looked like it was set, right, like in the 20s or 30s or something like that. 1930s Chicago. Well, there you go. I think it's going to be fun. good fluff fun

this ain't going to win in the Oscars I don't think yeah yeah I'm interested in it it looks looks different like I said I like the the kind of Bonnie and Clyde aspect to it and I kind of it's cheesy and goofy

but I like the way he was doing a gangster talk the old time I did too yeah I did too so we'll see how Maggie Jillinghall does I don't, I think this is her directorial debut for a movie,

so we'll see Mark 6. We shall see. And that things happen in where we get two basically the same movies within months apart because we still got Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein movie. Oh, yeah.

Oh, that's right. I think that comes out in November. So a few months later, we'll have the bride. so. A Frankenstein craze. Yeah. First it was vampires, then it was zombies. Now it's Frankie.

Yeah. And our final trailer is Death Gassin 2, Gormaned. Written and directed by Jason Howden and basically everybody that survived from the original movie is back. and well some scenes people who died come back too so of course uh from a little bit i've heard

about the movie as far as the gore um i think i read something the first 15 20 minutes or more gory than the entire first movie oh yeah that sounds yeah not surprising i love the first one so i'm definitely down yeah we all did i just can't believe it's been 10 years already since the first movie. Oh, yeah, that's crazy, huh? What'd you guys have? I guess it has been. We're going to be watching it.

I guarantee you. I can say that for Philip, too. We owe it to the first one to watch it. Yeah. Did I jump the shark? Does lightning strike twice? We're going to find out, right? Let's see.

IMDB says it's expected in September, but it doesn't have a set release date, so I'll keep everybody posted. and that is the final trailer all right on to listener feedback this week we shine the podcast spotlight on Little Horror Haven

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the collective final girls collective okay I think they kind of do a little bit of everything podcasting, acting, YouTube. Oh, wow. That's cool, man. We definitely need our, we need our women in horror for sure, right?

Yep. All right. In regards to seven, Michael Arnaz says classic. You got to see that new meme that's going around with her. With her head in the box smiling. Yeah. I was like, who did this?

I'll try to remember. They're all like, they're all like posing. Right. Smiling, her heads in the box, smiling. Got to watch out for that vagina candle. All right. In regards to Feast, Rob Cheshire says, it's a shame.

The second and third movies didn't have the small, well-made. film vibe. I can see that. I might add this to my 31 because I haven't seen Feast since it came out and I'm not positive if I've ever seen any of the sequels.

I don't remember ever watching it, but I might have seen it. I remember watching it because it had that HBO show with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon where they're trying to find somebody that was writing new scripts and the winner got to make their movie. Project.

Green light. Yeah, and that guy won that made Feast. Oh, okay. All right. And in regards to Tina Romero's Queen of the Dead, 2025 trailer, Tina M. Parker says yes. There you go. We're excited about it.

It looks kind of fun. Yeah. You got Romero's daughter directing drag queens versus zombies. look like a lot of gore what could be better huh? Well, why not?

In regards to dummies of horror Zim Vader says rumor has it that one of these guys has a cooking with cum book Oh, well, there's that. If you don't get that reference, you should be listening to dummies of horror. It's definitely an ongoing,

it's a thread, isn't it? throughout many shows. In regards to trick our treat, Robert Glonix has absolutely love this movie, so original, true Halloween spirit. Yeah, which I believe on the 14th

and 15th, they'll be shown in 4K in the theaters. Oh, that'd be cool. What? Yeah. Oh, man, I may have to take one of my 31 days that's not going to be a 20-25 movie, Brian.

I don't, Brian, I don't think you're doing, I'm doing, I'm doing a mixture. Yeah, you can't do all, because you've seen them all. Every fucking week, you talk about the newest movies, man. I always, I always tell myself every, right before October, I'm going to, like, not watch as many, so I'll have some for October, but I just been kind of on a roll lately. But I'm doing a mixture, because my daughter wants to do the entire Halloween franchise, because she wants me to explain the different times. timelines because I told it as different timelines. Wow. She was like confused.

She thought it was all one. Yeah, you got that's, uh, that might take up half your, half your 31 nights, man. Yeah. I might be, I might, when we do our recap, I might have extra little bonus ones to talk about. So. All right. Let's not, let's not over commit now. Let's be sure we get all.

I said some bonus. I'm not doing 62 nights of, or a thousand and one horror movies. I still remember when Jim Law did a hundred nights. I do remember that, man. Dude's insane. So many disappointed movies he talked about. Yeah.

Yeah, it sucks when you get just bad one after bad one, and then you get tired of watching them. Oh, yeah, I know. That's got to be a downer, huh? All right. And in regards to devil. Pat Caruso says Goodflick

Devil's The elevator one The elevator one, that's right, okay Oh no, was that the last Good movie that M. Knight was involved in? I think he wrote it. I think somebody else directed it. Yeah, but he produced it, right?

I mean, all right, I should, let me rephrase that. Was that the last good movie that had M. Knight's name in the credits, period? I'm being a little harsh, right? I mean, come on. Nothing but stinkers lately, man. Yeah.

And his daughter's not much better. You like that one on the beach. Oh, yeah. Old, I did like that, but nobody else did. That was my night swim of that year, I guess, Brian. I mean, I didn't hate it. It was better than a night's one. Yeah.

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All right. On to the featured attractions. Sports week. Sort of. We start with... Sort of. We start with downhill. I tried.

From 2016. After his best friend dies in a racing accident, Viking star Joe agrees to go back on the wheels for an exhibition in Chile. On a test run with his girlfriend, Stephanie, they stumble upon a badly injured man dying from a mysterious virus. That's the start of a very bad day for them as they become the target of relentless killers, ready to do anything to keep their secret,

and go out of the mountains. It's a long description. Yeah. Okay. Surprisingly accurate. This movie's insane. Right. Director is Patricio Vajadaris,

also known for Toro Loco. Oh. That makes sense. Toro Loco. Writer is Barry Keating, also known for the Killer Mermaid. I've seen that.

You have to you, right, Brian? Yeah. I have seen that. Also, it was filmed in 13 days. So, that's an interesting little bit of trivia. Yeah. Lance, you want to start us out on downhill? Yeah, definitely, because I thought this was going to be not great.

I didn't, look, it's not a perfect movie by any means. It's obviously, it's not like got a huge budget and all this. CGI fire going off that these big money movies seem to have these days. So the movie kind of starts out, right? It's got, I guess it was kind of like a flashback, right, guys?

He was remembering when his buddy... Yeah, and I was kind of like, all right, I mean, this looks like it could be interesting. I kind of like the way that the cycling was filmed where they put like a GoPro on the front of the bicycle, so you kind of felt like you were... It was kind of like almost

somewhat found footage movie and somewhat not filmed found footage, whatever that would be. Yeah. But the found footage scenes were pretty impressive. And so I thought the filmmaking style was okay. I thought

the acting was decent. You know, you had some characters that weren't the best people. Like the one guy that's fucking around on his girlfriend. Are you going to fuck around on a girl that's that hot? That was my first question. No kidding.

Jeez. There was one scene that he guys might remember. It has nothing to do with horror, but they're just like, I think they just arrived in Chile, and they're in the motel room. And she's like, oh,

what are you doing with that camera? It's like she never even took her clothes off. And I was sweating bullets, man. I was like, ye. I enjoy that part. But yeah, I mean,

once you kind of get into this thing, I'll put it this, way it throws a whole bunch of elements into a movie that should not work in any way form or fashion. But for me, it ain't got to work for everybody, but for me, this movie definitely worked.

Because it was so fucking weird. And there was like, what was it? Killer Hillbilly, Chilean hillbillies. There were, I guess, zombies. They were like worm creatures, kind of like I don't know. They never explained any of it.

It just happens. There's zero explanation. and that's the problem. The problem is there's no fucking story here, but it was a lot of fun to watch. What was that James Gunn movie with the Worms? Slither. Yeah, there you go.

I got those vibes, but I enjoyed it, man. I had a fun hour and a half, you know? Good way to kill an hour and a half. Yeah. Brian, what do you think? Yeah, I was a little worried when the movie started out, not because of the low-budget thing. You know, sometimes movies are going to be,

low budget and people make it work. The acting was okay, but I thought the story was kind of moving on a little slowly. But once he got to that moment where he, I think him and his girlfriend were going to go test out the track and they come across the guy. Then the movie picked up. Yeah. And it just had me guessing. Right.

Like Lance said, crazy Chilean mountain men or. And then later I was like, is this kind of sci-fi? kind of alien shit going on. And then you got to the end and I was like, okay, this is some ritual, realistic Satan worshipping goats and sex and all kinds of stuff.

I was like, okay, you guys are throwing everything into this movie. Satanic aliens. Yeah, I thought the practical effects look really good, especially the infected people. The way the skin would bubble and you could see whatever the eel or worm thing they put down their mouths you can see it like moving throughout

their body through their necks and stuff i thought that looked really cool did they get infected because of the worms it wasn't clear yeah it wasn't clear and you know what i kind of like that i didn't know it kind of had me guessing in my mind coming up with my own scenarios and then they would throw something else in there and i was like oh well there goes that fucking idea I had. That's right. What's happening right now? Didn't like the main guy.

Yeah. For our hero, quote unquote, he didn't make a lot of the best decisions throughout the movie. Not very likable, was he? No. But overall, I had fun with it. I've been trying

to pair movies up that, you know, the most likely we haven't heard of, and I've never heard of this one. Not nor had I. The sports I can connect it with

something we haven't seen. I know. That's cool. It kind of worked. It kind of worked. Cycling's comparable to football. I know,

it's still a sport. Yeah. But, hey, I appreciate it, especially this kind of cycling when they do the crazy tracks,

when you're going up on the, the walls, you're riding sideways against the walls and stuff like that. The little ledges, you know, appreciate all that.

But yeah, I thought this was a decent little movie. You know, it's listed as a thriller, but I would throw possibly sci-fi and horror in there. Absolutely. Yeah, all of the above and everything you can imagine going on, right? Yeah. Yeah, because it started out with that scene where they're sticking the alien larva or whatever the fuck it was, like down her throat. And so... Right, right?

Yeah, the whole time the movie is going, I'm like, where are they going with this? And it definitely did not disappoint, man. It surprised me at every turn. Every time I turned around, there was some new weird thing happening. Yeah. Yeah, it took it a minute to get there. Like, they had to party in Chile for a little while. And I'm not sure why they did all that, but I guess just to introduce their friends.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess. Does that like where this kind of cycling is like big at in Chile? I guess. He acted like he's been there before. Right. And maybe it's a big spot, you know, because it looked like it was on like a ski mountain or something. Like a big track.

Yeah. I could see that. Yeah, it's probably the right terrain in winter and BMX or not BMX, but like mountain biking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. What did what did you guys think about the whole? Okay.

Is this normal in Chile? Some of our Chilean listeners need to weigh in, please. Is it normal to walk in like a gas station that has like, you know, candy and hats and shit and sunglasses that you can buy and then you go to the, oh, I'm going to go to the restroom. Let me come with you. You go back, there's this whole fucking huge bar back there with pool tables and, video games and is

that normal? It's a Chilean convenience story had all the conveniences. Small town, convenience store slash club. I guess. Those were some fucked up characters. The dude with the weird squinty eyes and shit, you know?

Yeah. Yeah, they were weird and a little intimidating. And then, yeah, once it got going with those guys, and then they brought up like the alien things in the mix. I appreciated a lot of the like special effects though. Like the bubbles and boils on their face.

Yeah, it was really cool. Know how or why that was happening, but. Right. Yeah, when the one, when we, when we got to the, the ritualistic satanic orgy scene, that I was like, what the fuck did this come from? And were there goats in that orgy too? Yeah, they were just casually standing there.

Having sex in a room full of goats. And then the woman shows out, she shows out near the end where she's just fucking running down the street screaming. Yeah. I wasn't even sure if that was real. Well, he saw her in a vision earlier in the movie, remember? Like he nodded off or something and woke up and she was like running toward him. That was kind of weird. That was a creepy scene.

Yeah, I took it as his infection. It was kind of, what do you call it, like a hive mine, like the connected. Oh, that makes perfect sense. Yeah, yeah. That makes perfect sense. I get it. They're sort of zombies. Yeah.

But with aliens. I'd put them in that category. Yeah. Space worm zombies. Yeah. And then you get an Australian. Australian dude down there leading the the rabble rousers, you know?

Yeah. I'd be kidding here. Yeah, it was a crazy freaking movie, man, but I did have a lot of fun. Yeah. If anything, it kept you guessing, and it definitely kept your attention. So I'll give it to it for that. All right. Scores, Lance?

Six and a half. It was a lot of fun, a lot of fun. Brian? I was at six and a half, but when the orgy happened, I was like, okay, I got to bump to so to a seven. Yeah, I think seven. I think that actually is what said it over the top was that last scene where the orgy.

And, oh yeah, that was nuts. What is happening right now? And they looked at him or was it him or her? I can't remember that ran by. I think it was her. Okay. And they looked at her.

They didn't even stop. Like, they just kept going on. The goats are just walking around. I know. And then they came after him. really slowly and shot the car but it didn't make any bullet holes. Nothing made sense.

But that's okay. It was fun. Yes. We'll forgive them. All right. So I think we can all agree that we recommend that one if you've never seen downhill. It's on 2B. I could easily see this filmmaker. Like if they catch a lucky break and get some budget, this guy could make a,

hell of a fucking movie, I think. Yeah. The special effects were pretty great considering what the budget probably was. I imagine they used most of that to buy badass bikes. Or drugs. Or drugs. Both.

All right. On to the brand new 2025, him. A young athlete descends into a world of terror when he's invited to train with the legendary champion whose charisma curdles into something darker. director is not Jordan Peel I thought it was

I think he produced it yeah it is Justin Tipping also known for kicks and Joe versus Carol I don't know what those are oh the TV show it was the comedy version of the Tiger King Philip

oh yeah yeah okay with Kristen Whig and I don't remember yeah all right that was fun all right writers Justin Tipping with Zach Akers and Skip Bronkey. Skip Bronkey. Is that a real name?

Should be. It is now. I was kind of trying not to laugh when I said it and then you repeated it. It's kind of fun. Skip Bronchi, that's a fun name. That he got made fun of it. It's cool. All right.

Marlon Williams said he had always been inspired by villains who genuinely enjoyed their deeds like Heath Ledger's Joker in the dark night. He said, White was motivated by insecurity and envy of Cade's potential stature. It's the fear, Wayne said, when he started showing up like he could be the next goat that bothers Isaiah. And so he's just like, nah,

not on my watch. He said, that's a thread throughout the film. I think it exposes the grit, that thirst, that hunger that it takes to be great, and you're never wanting to let that go. As much as you want success,

it's not worth it to lose your stole. All right. Lance, what do you think about him? I kind of love this movie. I really fucking love this movie. I just saw it today. And it's, it's made out of been filmed the best way.

I mean, there might have been certain scenes that weren't as congruent. What's the word for it? They didn't mesh together as much as I thought they could have. like there were some things that were kind of unexplained, but sort of like the other movie, it may be okay that there were a few things that were kind of unexplained.

But as far as like what this movie is trying to say about the culture of professional sports, the culture of life, I think in America in general, you know, the pressures to stay on top, the pressures to do whatever it takes to, you know, to make, to make that money, right? And to be that champion, right? To be looked on by other people and kind of like worshipped by other people,

almost like you're a god. He got it, man. This film, I think, hit it, hit all of it. And I think the ending scene, a lot of people aren't going to like it because they're going to think it's too surrealistic. But when you think about what it's saying, and we'll talk about that at the end, I don't want to get into that part quite yet. But I think it's kind of, it hit,

it hits home probably for a lot of people. There's going to be some people that don't understand this film. I'm one of them. I don't understand everything that was in. I mean, there were some weird, funky things going on in here that's like, who's that fucking person? Where did that guy come from? Where did that chick come from?

But I think it all meshes together pretty well. I don't think it's supposed to be taken totally at face value. I think that this is a film that there's a lot of symbolism in it. And I think if you're willing to go along for the ride and take the symbolism in for what it is. I think you're going to get a lot out of this movie. You know, at the end of the day, I don't want to go too far in

because I don't want to get into spoilers because even from all the trailers, I had no fucking idea what this was about. I knew there was the head trauma, you know, aspect of it, the way people, I knew there was the part, like the scene very early on where the doctor says something, and he says, so as my doctor, do you recommend

that I keep playing football? Well, of course I can't recommend that. And then he's like, what about it as a fan? You know, and then it just, you don't get an answer. But you kind of know, we all think that, right? It's like somebody, one of our favorite athletes is really injured badly, right? And needs to recover. And we're like one game away for the playoffs.

And we're thinking, get the fuck in there. Shake it off. We need you in there. So there's a lot of stuff that this movie hits on, man. And like I say, there's a lot of cultural aspects too here, that some of which is on the surface and some of it's really not on the surface. You've got to have to dig for it. And I did some scratching and turn it over in my mind after the movie, especially that final bat crazy scene at the end. And I'm like, huh, okay. I think I see what they're saying there. So yeah, man, I really

loved it. I was a little worried, you know, through the first act. I love the way they set it up. They did a great job because within just like 10 minutes span they told you everything you need about this character what you need to know his background what motivates him, his family situation all that people he's dealing with in his life

all that is perfectly done in the first 10 minutes after that it kind of slowed down a little bit and it got a little weird when he was getting to the place he was going to and those people were there and all but yeah all in all man I think this was a masterful film I mean this is

this was a good one Glad I went and saw it on a really big screen at the theater. I like this movie, but I don't love it. Understandable, dude. I mean, you're in the majority. If you're a football fan, I think you'll enjoy this movie more, but if you're looking for a horror movie, you don't really get much.

You get sprinkles throughout the movie, and then it kind of gets you with the horror and the final act, which I felt like that final act was kind of toned. uneven with the rest of the movie. Yeah, we went a little bonkers. Not the NFL in this movie, which I doubt what they were trying to say with certain

things. I doubt the NFL would have even been a part of this movie. Right. I thought Marlon Wayans did a fantastic job of playing the older veteran, the goat, the original one, the one what's the actor's name? Tyreege Wethers

is basically the up-and-comer. I liked his portrayal. I liked the portrayal everybody around him. Like he had his own little cult following, which was pretty much like a cult that'll do anything for him. Sure. Right down to his people he trained with were, as he put him, just fucking loser free agents that would fucking do anything. I tell him to do just to get on the team. That was a brutal scene there, huh? Yeah. I thought Tyree Wither's, the only thing I know him from is that I know what you did last summer. I think Phil, you and me was he was one of the few characters we liked.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He played a dickhead, but he played it well. Yeah, I liked his portrayal of the up-and-comer throughout the movie, kind of struggling to make the right choices. I like the training scene where he's kind of doing his thing, and then he's like, they're like kind of up into Annie, and he's not really doing what Marlon wants him to do. And then he kind of gets into it,

and he gets into it a little too much where he's like not caring about the other people involved. Right, right. And then he kind of realizes what he's done, and he kind of snaps back out of it. I like that kind of him going back and forth with making the right choice, making the wrong choice. But as a horror movie, this is very light on the horror.

There's a lot of symbolism throughout. and then like I said they just kind of hit you with it at the end which kind of was a little goofy to me at the end with what the movie was trying to do throughout the first two parts yeah understandable enjoyed the music choices they had in the movie and yeah anything else I'll probably end up spoiling it so I enjoyed it but not as much as I wanted to this was not Jordan Peel this kind of felt like somebody trying to emulate Jordan Peel. Yeah. Because it did almost have the feel of a Jordan Peel movie, but it wasn't. Well, I was thinking about that, guys. Brian, remember like three or four years ago, you said that

Jordan Peel was working on his next movie and it was going to be about football? Yeah. So I wonder if he just kind of came up with a kernel of the idea and sort of handed it over to this guy? I don't know. Yeah, or he could have just always been producing. he could have always just been producing which I hope he doesn't start James Juan and stuff that's what I was kind of worried

about get a little worried about that but it just makes me think what if in an alternate universe this movie was directed by Jordan Peel then I think it would have been I think it would have been better and I think it would have had more to say yeah

agreed but yeah yeah yeah pass it off to you. I'm going to get I kind of feel the same way. Like I stylistically it was pretty awesome.

They made some cool choices. Just the story was a little weird and then the ending kind of jumps the sharp. And I guess

well we'll get to that in spoilers I suppose. I don't want to say too much. But Marlon Wayans did amazing in this movie. I really liked this. I really liked everybody's performance. I think it was

just, you know, maybe slightly poorly written. All right. Scores. Lance, what do you think? So look, here's the thing about this movie, guys. When I went in and I started watching it, like I said, I love that set-up scene. And then I was

expecting a nice, you know, real linear, real literal type story, right? where what you see is what's really happening, yada, yada. I love the spinning football at the very beginning. That kind of reminded me of the one scene in Nope with a shoe. But yeah, I mean, if you'll get out of the mindset of expecting this movie to be a literal story and just go for the symbolism, for me it worked a little better. So I enjoy it.

My problem is I disagree with all of the symbolism in this movie. And that's perfectly fine, dude. But I'll, but I give it an eight on 10. I give it an 8 on 10. I loved it. Yeah. I'll tell you what football is supposed to be once we get into the spoilers. Okay.

I'm eager to hear. Eager to hear. Brian, what do you think? I think I'm at a 6.5. Okay. It just really lost me at the end, but a lot of that 6.5 is Marlon. His portrayal of this legendary quarterback, which I have just now thinking about. How old is he supposed to be?

I know. He's like he's up in his 50. didn't he? If Tyree, no, like in the movie. Yeah, I know, but like, it's like Tom Brady. He's, isn't he supposed to be Tom Brady, basically? I mean, yeah, basically. Except he's got eight rings.

Because you got Tyreet Withers. Right. You got the beginning of the movie that that little kid is Tyreet Withers. And he has to be, what, eight? Yeah, that's true. That's right. That's right. Yeah, makes sense.

Marlins, like, in his last year of his contract. so yeah well Brady played for like 20 years quite a lot I'm sure Brady can probably still play now yeah he probably could but yeah most of it was riding on Marlin's performance I thought he did he played it straightforward most of the he had a little few comedic moments here and there but it wasn't it was very toned down to what we normally know

of Marlin so great job from him great job from Tyreek withers so six and a half I didn't, I didn't completely hate it, but that ending just didn't sit well with me. Yeah. I get it. It was going on through the rest of the movie. It was very jarring, wasn't it? Yeah, it was like so much different than anything else that you had seen.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to go six and a half too. I liked it, but I wish it was better. I could appreciate that. Yeah. All right. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. So, yeah. I guess at the end of the day, it's football is just game sort of thing.

But football is more than that. We used to have, you know, warriors in our society. that went off and fucking fought battles and shit. Right. And now we have football. That's what those people are for. Some people are born for it. Some people aren't.

But yeah, it's brutal. It's a brutally violent game and it's supposed to be. Yeah, they kind of alluded to that, right? Early in the film, somebody was having that conversation. So it makes sense, right? Like, there's always going to be that element. Like, they're either going to play football or maybe be Navy. seals, right? Or just the elite of the elite, right? Like that highly motivated. But see, I really

liked, I liked a couple of things here, okay? I like the way that the people are kind of, you know, they're worshipped as gods or whatever, but at the same time, in their mind, it's kind of hard to find joy because they're always under so much pressure, right? And it's like always, always stay on top, always stay on top. And, you know, the thing, the thing with the That's a thing easy, man. You've got to have a special kind of psychopath for that. Like Michael Jordan. He's a little bit crazy.

I like the way they kind of portrayed Tyree Wither's. What was his name? Cam. Right. Because he actually had outside of his agent, who he later found out, was part of the thing going on. But was he or was he just there? I mean...

I think he sold his soul. He was there with a mask on and everything. So yeah But other than that Like I like that they portrayed that he actually had good People around him Like looking out for him From his mom to his girlfriend

To his right I think it was his brother Yeah To tell him to watch out You know Watch out for this guy I don't like what this guy's saying over here Don't fall for this trap

Yeah Usually the cliche is you know You got all these people like With their handout Expecting everything You know The entourage. Yeah.

Because he had that... Family members that show up you haven't seen in 20 years. Yeah, he gets attacked by somebody early in a movie. He has a head injury. Right. And his entire family's telling him, no, you don't even need to do

basically the combine is what they were doing in the beginning. You don't need to do that. That was true love, right? Yeah, he's got his agent. Like, no, no, just show him a little something, go out there. So I like that part of the movie.

He got himself into the, the gears of the machine, right? There was some good football scenes, too, I got to say. Yeah, yeah, definitely. All right, so look at the very final scene, all I really got out of all that was that he made a decision at the end that he was going to, like, be his own person and do it, do it the way he wanted to do it instead of, you know, fine into the end? That's the way I got it.

I didn't think he was actually literally killing people. I think that was more symbolic. That was my takeaway from it. I think you got to bring it back after you do something like that. Because they just kind of flew off the deep end and let you, I guess they're supposed to think about it or whatever. I think I kind of would have liked it if they would have showed me something after all that.

Yeah, and this isn't a movie that would do well with a sequel, is it? Oh, it's not getting a sequel. I'm looking at the numbers. Him too. It didn't do too well, huh? Budget 27 million, it only boxed off as so far, half that. We were the only, AJ and I were the only two in the theater. Yeah, didn't get great reviews.

Yeah, no, it didn't. It was, I try not to see reviews, but I did. I saw a couple in my Facebook feed, and I was like, oh, fuck, everybody's hating it. Maybe that's part of why I liked it. It was like the opposite of when something's overhyped. I just, I enjoyed it. I do want to see it again, because I want to catch some of the stuff that I miss, like the two weird, like the chick that attacked him in the sauna,

and then the two weird fucking people with footballs on their heads. So I was talking about, like, his, Marlins fans were like a cult. Like, they were willing to kill Cam because he's the guy that's going to replace him. Yep, yeah. Well, and so they threw a bunch of, like, little symbolism, things like that in there, but then they didn't really... Right. Didn't go very far.

Yeah. Like that didn't really go anywhere. It wasn't really part of the story. It just happened. Yeah. Was he attacked by somebody that has to do with this organization, this cult or whatever it was supposed to be? Yeah.

That's what they were saying at the end is that they're the ones that attacked him so that they could isolate him. So to me, that's like a midsumar thing because I always think the dude from the cult is the one that killed her family, which is what, put her into the state of mind that she was so susceptible. But that's just a theory.

It's not proven, I don't think. What else? I like the whole training montage with the guy that was every time he missed a pass, that guy would get hit in face with the football. Yeah, that was a brutal scene, dude. It was intense, man. I like that. I like that part.

And then when he, like, rammed that dude with his head, I thought it was him getting snap back. Because the way that they show it. And then they zoom out and he's the one up there getting all hyped and that guy's all twitching on the ground. Yeah. I like I like that he got hyped. But then when he noticed how hurt the guy was, he kind of was like, oh, shit, maybe I went too far. But then Marlins coming over and like, that's what I'm talking about.

Exactly. Yeah, egging him on. And there's another scene like that too, right? Hamithi Shalameh. All standing her. Hamleth, Kardashian. I love that, man. That was great.

Oh, we talked about, not to cut you off, lands, but we talked about Tim and Eric. Tim was the agent. That's why that dude looked familiar. Okay. All right. I got you. Jim Jeffreys, great comedian.

I mean, I disagree with him on almost everything, but he's funny. He's playing the, the doctor guy, and I kind of loved him in that role. That's why he looked familiar. Yeah. Well, fucking A, dude. People that, yeah, all right. Yeah.

So a lot of, a lot of talent in the movie, right? We're all in agreement that, like, a lot of the performances were great. It was just a little pieces. All the pieces were there. It just didn't quite fit together. Yeah, I thought What's Her Name did a great job, Julia Fox as Marlon's social media influencer wife. Yeah, she was fucking weird.

I think that's how she is in real life. Oh, really? I mean, she looks, the way she looked in this movie is what she looks like in real life. Okay. Well, it was blonde. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, no shit.

Teach their own, I guess. I don't know if she's telling people to stick crystals up their ass. That was a funny line. That was a fucking funny line. And he was like, he was just looking at it. Like, what do I do with it? She was like, you stick it up your ass. Yeah.

No thanks I'm good I wasn't Yeah dude You guys were talking about the Like when it switches to an x-ray I wasn't a huge fan of that Effect you know

Like when it showed the head The head trauma and all that Yeah They may have overused it a little Maybe it was good the first time Yeah I thought it was good at least the first time I liked it

I liked it when it was the head on head Yeah Because it showed the shock go From the head All the way down to the first time to the body. Yeah. And then they showed it

three more times. All right. All right. Well, we all, we all liked it. I liked it a little more than you guys. That's cool. I'm glad.

I'm glad I enjoyed it. I want to rewatch it for sure. Is that it? Anything else to add on this one? Yeah, I think that's it. All right. So as always,

we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode or maybe watching it on YouTube, of another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to get your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at the Horror Returns at gmail.com. Let's see. Next week, we're going to,

what do we do? At Home Invasion Week, Brian? Yes, sir. The Strangers Chapter 2 and the 2007 version of Funny Games. Is that the first one or the American remakes? It's the first one. Gotcha. Should be interesting.

And we're going to have a special guest, aren't we? Brian, didn't you talk about, you saw another screener maybe? Yeah, it was an interesting movie. I have some questions for him, so. Okay. All right. Well, if all goes well, we're going to have a special guest. So we'll see how that goes.

I got an email today, but I think we're on. So, Philip, until the horror returns again. good night