The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #489: Southbound (2015) & V/H/S/Halloween (2025)

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Pedro stops by to watch some anthologies with us. Cool of the week includes The Dodgers, Monster: The Ed Gein Story, and Andor. Trailers are We Bury the Dead and Psycho Killer. The podcast spotlight shines on 3 Basket Cases. And we get feedback from Rob Cheshire, Michael Arnaz, Ryan Be, and Robert Alan Adams. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware, this podcast contains major plot spoilers, and the foulest, of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everyone, to The Horror Returns. It is Halloween season, and I'm Lance, and we've got Brian, and we are expecting Phil, but he's not here yet.

That's cool. We're going to get started, and we're good to go, because in the house, our man, Pedro, What's going on? What's up, man? Just right here, right stacked in the middle of playoff season for the MLB, and I got my Dodgers in the playoffs. You know, every year. I don't think we missed the playoffs.

I just used to it. I don't think we missed the playoffs in the last, I think we're going on 13 straight years now. So I'm used to this time of the year. Very stressful. They're actually playing in about an hour. But it's also very fun because I get to hang out with my friends. You know, all my friends have kids now. So this is kind of the time of year where they get permission to go to the bars and hang out.

So we're doing that. And yeah, it's a fun time, stressful time, but it's just it's part of being a sports fan. And, you know, I'm also keeping an eye on my Philadelphia Eagles as well because I'm a huge fan. I'm not a bandwagon jumper. I've been, you know, they've been my team for about 10 years or so, the good years and the bad years. So yeah, so being a sports fan is being, you know, chill here. The weather's getting better. I love, I love West Coast fall because it's not really fall. It's kind of like a little tease of fall. But yeah, so we're just kind of hanging in there.

Ready to talk about these anthology films. Very nice. You guys start to feel the chill in Alaska a little bit, Brian? Yeah, a little bit. You know, it's fall leaves are coming off the trees, but it's been mostly raining, which is a little odd for this time of year. right? Yeah, I know in Florida, it rains for an hour. You have a thunderstorm for an hour, and then all of a sudden it's like the sun's out for the rest of the day. Yeah.

Usually we get snow probably November, early November, so. Okay. Cool. But you never know what weather nowadays can snow tomorrow. Sure. Yeah, that's true. That global warming is a real thing, maybe. I don't want people mad at me.

All right. All I know is that it's still 85 degrees here in L.A., which is that that wasn't the case about 10 years ago. Pedro, I think that it's pretty well established by now, man. I think we can take that and move on. So, hey, dude, before we get into Cool of the Week, you, you, I think, Pedro, you took some umbrage with some of our recent reviews, if I'm not mistaken. You care to elaborate? Well, it's not, yeah, I just didn't agree. I didn't take, it's more like I was just surprised.

So yeah, I'll go through a couple of them here. The first one is him. I completely just hated that movie. Two on 10, by the way, on my end. Okay. It was a film. I had been on the show with you guys. We had talked about it.

I think I was here when we reviewed the trailer. Sure. And we were saying, what is this film about? Because the trailer was very vague. But we were thinking kind of like a Jacobs ladder vibe, you know, something along those lines. you know, a lot of symbolism, a lot of metaphors, you know, those kind of films. It wasn't even really that. It was literally, it's like a by the numbers movie.

And I'm there watching it. And I'm like, I'm there watching it. I'm like, what is the story here? What is what? I'm just following this up and coming quarterback with this veteran quarterback. And then I'm thinking, is they going to be as generic as I think it is? Please don't. And sure enough, that's what it was.

It was all whitey. it was old whitey still controlling dominating you know something right and the the the oppressive you know uh group and stuff and so i was like you know what this is i was just so pissed when i got out of that theater um just because it was so generic generic it wasn't even all that exciting um yeah so that was that um i had i had a different I had a different takeaway, man. I didn't really try to take the story for, you know, a literal type story. I enjoyed a lot of the symbolism. But, you know, to each their own.

But the symbolism was also something that we've seen before, like a thousand times. You know how the white man is still in control. Like, like, I get it. Like, you know, we've been through this road a thousand times. That won't me? I mean, do you guys disagree with me? Like, I was expecting something. There was a lot more to it than that, man.

That was just like one of many messages in it. I guess you're, yes, I'll give you that. But I think the, the, like, the final act, that's very much the message, right? I think anyway. And I was like, God damn, I was just disappointed because here we are in 2025. And I thought we were past these kind of movies, you know, they're just, it just came off as like, we've seen these kind of movies done way better. And nowadays, it takes a lot for people to go to the movie theater.

Like, you've got to really bring your A game to every fucking movie that's out there. which is going to bring me to my next one. And so I was, yeah, two on ten. I mean, you guys enjoyed it. That's cool, you know, and it was about football. I'm not, you know, even though I said I like my egos, I wouldn't consider football like a prime. You know, I don't have a connection to it. Like a lot of, like, I know, I know you guys love football.

So I was like, ah, you know, it wasn't really my thing. But I could understand that if you have a connection to like football, it's going to be a little more for you, which is fine. Yeah. And then the other one was last week with the strong. Strangers chapter two. One on 10 on my end. That film, like, again, we were, we were too kind then, huh? Yes. And I get it. You know, you guys had a guess. Maybe you guys had to be kind, whatever. But here's a deal. Like, I'm sitting there, and I'm thinking this, this is such a pretentious work of art because you guys couldn't even fully review it because you guys don't even have the entire picture. And that was a lot of the conversation last week.

It was like, we can't say that. And I'm like, how unfair is that? Right. How unfair is it that you're paying to see a full movie? And you can't, you don't even really have the whole scope of it. And to me, like, like, were the producers, you know, where they, they don't really have, they're not really connected to our culture right now and the way society is right now. They have the God of put to be continued.

When we have so many of these cinema theaters empty, You know, where people are no longer going to the movies and you're going to, like, string somebody along and then just say, you know what? No, you got to pay later on to be continued, you know? I'm not saying you can't do that. Films can and have done that. What I'm saying is that you have to have the credibility to be able to do that. And this film did not have that credibility, as you guys know, because part one sucked. And so to me, it was just like, like so tone death by, I don't.

I don't know if it was Rennie Harlan. I don't know if it was the producers, but it was so toned for them to say, you know what? It's just kind of like tease them all the way through and just give them half a story. And they actually got to pay like 40 bucks to get the whole story.

To get the whole story. In a time where it takes balls to do that because even, you know, $200 million films are not even getting people in the theaters anymore. Sure. And it just, it just, I was watching it. And I was like, this is all just ridiculous.

is. You know, the story didn't make sense. Like, and we didn't really get a payoff, you know, and so two on 10, one on 10. That was one on 10. Yeah, with this, with this society's short attention spans and you expect us to sit through three movies? Right. But it's not even that. Like, also edit the movies to where you're paying some sort of respect for the paying

audience, especially that middle movie, right? Where it's like, give us something. It was, it was the 90-minute chase sequence. where nothing really gets kind of, there's no conclusion to anything. Yeah, I mean, in fairness, though, I think that was kind of the point, you know. Yeah, but that's a con job, man. That's a con job. It's like, that's the kind of stuff that would do in the 80.

I mean, isn't it? I mean, that's really what it is. I mean, I'm not, again, I'm not saying the strategy is bad. I'm saying, let's hear for what it is. It's a scam, you know, it's like, let me string you along for your 20 bucks for this one. and then you have to pay another 20 to get the actual movie. So you're surprised they didn't hand out barf bags at the entrance, right? Saying this movie's going to make you sick to your stomach.

I mean, I will stick to my stomach for other reasons because I felt like I was just taking for a ride. You know, I felt like I was just sold the Brooklyn Bridge. P.T. Barnum, eat your heart out, huh? No, it just let me so upset. And you know what? I gave it a one. because the lead girl is doing a good job. And I'm saying it's doing it because she's also going to be in the next movie.

The lead girl is pretty damn good. And you could tell that again, I think it's right up in last week's show. I mean, they put her through the ringer, right? I mean, she's running, crying, slipping on mud and hitting her head on stuff. And it's props to her. Good job. But I mean, the story itself. I mean, what was the story?

It was just her running away from people for 90 minutes. I mean, and then we would meet a couple people. and they were like red herrings and then, oh, it was just, it was just ridiculous. So yeah, so him is two on 10 because Marlon Wayne's performance was phenomenal. So I got to give it a two. Like, he was awesome in it. Fair enough. Even though the film itself was like what it was.

And then Strangers Chapter 2, let's go with one on 10. So anyways. But yeah, I was just surprised. I thought you guys were going to be a little more harder on those films. But it's cool, though, I mean, maybe we're getting soft. I don't know. No, no, I mean, it's, it's, these things are all subjective, but, but, um, because I just can't see somebody, especially somebody R.H, right? I can't see somebody R.H. not getting upset at that to be continued because we're people that are, we're not just going to go to the theater.

And it's like, uh, you know, we have other shit to do and, and to have to be content and not, not be giving the whole story. I was like, come on, man, you got to be kidding me here, you know, back to the future can do it. You're not back to the future. Yeah, it doesn't have the same crowd, does it? Or, or, you know, you know what I would have done? Well, you could do in that situation so that you could calm the people into thinking they got a full story. First of all, you can't say to be continued, right? You got to, you got to just give them a little something, edit the movie to where it gives you like a false conclusion and then you just end it.

You could end it on a cliffhanger, you know, like the Spider-Verse movie. Sure. But don't be like that. We're going to, we're going to big tease you here. And then, oh, to be continued, you know. I was like, come on, man. All right, fair enough, Pedro. But you know what?

I took all my, I don't, yeah, my cool of the week is baseball, Dodgers goal. And then my uncle of the week was watching those couple of films the last month or so. All right. You want to chime in, Brian? Yeah, my cool of the week is a series that is getting mixed reviews, but I really enjoyed it. And that's Monster, the Ed Gein's story. Ah, okay. So you really like that.

Yeah, I thought this is probably Charlie Hunnam One of his best performances And I know a lot of people are Getting upset because the The series is not 100% accurate But A lot of the facts about Ed Gein Aren't 100% accurate

Because a lot of stuff is not proven Or disproven 100% And if you watch the series A lot of stuff is Like stuff he's hearing and seeing in his head that are not actually happening. And it's a series. It's going to be dramatized and sensationalized.

And I just, I don't know, I just thought this was something different. I've seen, seen from Charlie Hunnam. And I like the fact that they incorporated Anthony Perkins and Alfred Hitchcock, Toby Hooper. They had all them cast in the series. Ted Levine is Buffalo Bill. they did a scene

because Ed Gein's influenced a lot. So I thought it was well done. So this is kind of meta then. This is very meta this show. Yeah. Okay, I got to check it out. It's popping up on my algorithms.

Yeah, yeah, it seems interesting to me. And a lot of the episodes were directed by, I think his name is Ira Winkler, Henry Winkler's son. Okay, when you said that name, I thought, That has to be the case, right? Yeah. I thought he did a good job. And, you know, I just, I just seen a whole lot of people like, oh, that didn't happen.

That didn't happen. Sure. Well, a lot of people think he was a necrophilia. A lot of people think he was a cannibal. That would be a lot more worried about him then. None of that stuff was proven or disproven. So he wasn't a cannibal, right? He just liked to make furniture out of people's skin from what I understand.

Yeah. And I think, you know what? And to be fair to him, I think he only did that once. So there's that. Yeah. Once is enough, Pedro. He didn't have a whole bedroom set of like heads and skin and feet and stuff. He didn't have a bone temple, huh?

No. Don't remind me about that movie. So I think everybody should check it out. I'm going to check it out for sure. I am too now. What I understand, he's going to be in the next one, which is going to be about Lizzie Borden, and he's going to play Lizzie Borden's

father. Jacks is? Yeah. Huh. They must really like him then. They got the old American horror story thing going on here. I was the same actors coming back for different roles. Pretty cool.

All right. Let's see if it works. I thought, what's her name, did a great job as his mother, Lori Metcalfe, Aunt Jackie from Roseanne. Wow. That's bringing some of them. Yeah. So we got the.

Alfonso's kid directing Lori Medcaf. That's, that wasn't on my bingo card. No kidding, man. Who saw that coming, right? With Jacks, with Jacks telling. Oh, that's right, with Jacks. Is he wearing, like, white sneakers as Edgain? He's not wearing those white sneakers, right?

The white kicks? I did check when I got a full frame view, but no, he wasn't. Okay. Did he ever say I'm making your your skin into furniture for the club

for the club? No, somebody did say something to him and he was like, what's up? Did he really? No, he didn't. Okay. Oh man, what else, Brian? That's pretty much it.

I've been, you know, we're still, me and my daughter are still making our way through Walking Dead. We're on season eight now. I think we're about to cross into new territory on that because I think I stopped watching in the middle of season eight. Okay, well, we'll see what you think. I always talk people, if you could make it through seven, eight, and a little bit of nine, you're home free.

Like, you're going to be okay. Because it gets pretty good. Season 10 and season 10, and I think there's an 11 season. I think so, yeah. They're not bad. They're actually not bad. I'm really entertained by the last two seasons. Yeah.

But those Nigen and then a little bit after Negan, that's, that's revrode right there. Pretty brutal. Yeah. She's getting really invested in it because she gets into the characters and then she gets really invest into a character. And I keep telling her, don't hold on to that character because they'll be gone the next 10 minutes probably. Don't get attached. Well, yeah, gangs of London. is like that too. You guys check that out yet?

Pedro? I know you had, Brian. No, I still in the docket for me. All right. My cool of the week, because we're doing this 31 days, so there's not like a whole lot of, you know, free time to watch other movies and stuff. But I'm playing catch up on a couple of TV series. Like, I still have to catch up on Star Trek, Strange New Worlds. I got to catch up on The Last of Us. But I am finally catching up on a really cool show.

show that unfortunately is only two seasons but i guess it's kind of good too but uh and door you guys finished this one oh i love that show i i love that show i love that show that's one of my very shows of all time yeah i'm glad you're finally catching up on it mm-hmm i i'm like in the second season a lot but i love how they tie it all together into the movies and rogue one and all that so you get a lot of how far are you in the second season i'm a little bit more than halfway through what is it 12 episodes yeah okay so have you found that pattern one of the things that I like that they did in the second season, have you found that pattern that is like every three episodes

is like their own mini movie? Kind of. Yeah. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. So every three episodes is like a mini movie, and then it jumps, it starts like a whole new plot after that and then after that.

And it'll take you all the way to the end. It's pretty interesting. Yeah, very well done. Very well done. I'm enjoying it. So I'm not through yet because it is 12 episodes. Remember back in the day, Pedro and Brian, when we had to watch shows that were like,

24, 26 episodes in a year? Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're still out there. It's just we're more into more of like cable shows. We're not real or streaming. Like that's all network stuff, you know? For sure. Like imagine somebody finding lost, the TV show lost like right now.

Man, that's a lot of episodes, man. That's 24 per season. Yeah. A lot of backstory. They have to throw in there with the flashbacks and everything. So they did that well, though, you know, considering. Yeah. It's, you know, half your life to watch a season.

But, you know, oh, remember 24? Jack Bauer, you guys remember? Yeah, every episode was an hour of his life. Yeah, that's right. That was fun. All right, moving on. That's cool of the week. So, Brian, you got any horror headlines for us this week?

Yeah, this first one should make you happy, Lance. Dexter Resurrection officially renewed for season two. I love it. Have you seen it, Pedro? Never. I tried Dexter many years ago, couldn't get past the first season. Well, then you probably, well, you may not like it. I really dug it. Yeah. No, I mean, it's not for me, but I, but I mean, it has, obviously, that's a huge following. Yeah. Now, let me ask you this, because, again, I'm just kind of like peripherally, because it's like in the horror adjacent subgenre. So there was another show, right?

Like, with other actors, and then they canceled that one. Yeah, it was a preemptory. prequel. Okay. Did that one ever make the air or it was just they canceled it before the production started? It made, it had a full season and I think it was pretty well liked because I remember they ended up canceling it and there was a big uproar with the fans. Oh, but they canceled it because this one got over so much, right?

Because people really love this latest one. That makes sense. This, this, they're the, the prequel and, uh, I'm not well into the Dexter series. Who was John Lithgow's character? He was the Trinity Killer? Yeah, they were going to do a series on that, and basically with the success of resurrection,

all that got put on the back burner. Oh, okay. And rightfully so, you know, for them to just focus on this. I like where it's going. I like where it's going. All right. David S. Sandberg has revealed that lights out to could still happen.

Who cares? Yeah, I didn't really care. I mean, the first one was okay, I guess, but it wasn't really... Yeah. I haven't been waiting with bated breath for this announcement. He, what was his... He did Until Dawn, right? Yeah.

Yeah, okay. That was a good movie. I liked that one a lot. And he's doing Amityville next. And then he did Shazam. Yeah, he did Shazam and then part two. He did Shazam, that's right. And the second one.

And then he had a first. freak out when everybody talks shit about the second one and they're like, I'm never going to do these kind of movies again. Oh, that's right. Then he went back to horror. Yeah. All right. Mark Duplas and Patrick Bryce have confirmed Creek 3 is happening and will conclude

the franchise. Okay. Well, the Creek takes, right? I mean, he died in part two. I mean, he died in part two, so I don't know what is there to say. Are they going to say he's like a supernatural being like Jason or something like that or what? Or like, what's the grabber?

I think that he's going to be one of those. Sure. We'll see. We'll see in two weeks. See how that goes, huh? Another sequel that is confirmed to still be in development. Elizabeth Moss says the Invisible Man 2 is still in development. They're just waiting for the right script.

Hmm. Why? I mean, that's another one that's like, I mean. Yeah, it was very self-contained, wasn't it? The story. Yeah, self-contained and, you know, the invisible man. Is she going to, like, date another, like, she's going to go into another abusive? Maybe she's going to meet Abbott and Costello or something, and Dracula will show up or whatever, you know?

Yeah. Maybe she's the killer in the second one. Maybe she finds that suit, that wacky suit, and then she starts fucking with a dude. Could be. Yeah, because the Wolfman wasn't that good. So these, these, like, new reimagining from. I think it's from Blumhouse. They're doing these.

Sure. They're not really working out. They're not great. Yeah, I think that's why it's still in development. If Wolfman would have been a hit, then this movie would have been greenlit. Maybe if they had said Wolfman's got nards, Brian. It might have made all the difference.

Let's see. Anyways, go ahead. Paramount has shifted a Quiet Place 3's release date. It will now come. out July 9, 2027. That's not that long away, really, though, Pedro, if you think about it. I mean, it's two years. I mean... Yeah, we'll still be young in Vero.

I don't know. I mean, hopefully, I think John Krasinski's directing this one again. He's going to go back into behind the director's chair. Yeah. Hopefully, we're at the point in this franchise where they've got to bring something new. They can't recycle the themes from the first one or the second one. We already saw what happened in quote-unquote day one because we got that movie, which was pretty good actually. But now it's like, now what is the storyline? Now are we going to be like in fighting mode because now we know how to kill them? What's going to happen?

Oh, yeah, that's what it's going to be, I think, dude, right? They're going to go to war against the oppressors. So it's going to be more of like a war movie, I think. I think so. I think so. That seems to be the setup. Which is cool because if you write, you know, there's a lot of, like, quirky characters you could write in that scenario, which is always fun to see. Yeah. So we'll see. All right. More Resident Evil casting news. John O' Wilson, Zach Cherry, who Zach Cherry's on Severance, and Callie Reyes, who was in the last season, a true detective of joining cast.

Hmm. Which one is the dude from Severance? I know he's in a lot of Marvel movies He shows up he pops up in scenes Okay Who knows I watch a lot of Marvel I don't even know but this is still

Like a weird thing Yeah I know he was that guy in Spider The first Spider-Man The first time Holland Spider-Man Where he sees Spider-Man And he's like are you Spider-Man And he's like yeah He's like do a flip then

He just pops up in the MCU And he's a little... Yeah. Yeah, he was on the bus in Shang-chi and the fight scene, record live streaming it. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, he is kind of like, okay.

Oh, I know who he is now. Okay, yeah. All right. They don't have Stan Lee now, so they get this guy to show up in different Marvel movies, the cameo. And Kelly Reyes,

she was opposite Jody Foster and True Detective Night Country. Okay. She was the deputy. Was that the one with all the piercing? Yeah, that was the Alaska season. That one was near and dear to Brian's heart.

Yeah, near and dear. He's like, hey, that's right down the road from me. Hey, same thing with a sense of anarchy. We're here in California. That town doesn't, charming doesn't exist. Well, you know, you got to use your imagination. Oh, let's, a new line is in final talks with night, Knight called director Michael Blanchard to direct Final Destination 7.

Okay. I'm excited, man. That last one was a lot of fun. Yeah, they're all a lot of fun, right? Except maybe for the one with Bubba Gump, that's the only one I don't like. 3D. Yeah, but other than that, they're all pretty fun. And this last one was pretty original.

So I'm looking forward to the next one, for sure. And a couple more things. Devon Sawa officially joins the cast of the upcoming return to the living dead sequel. Well, which one, though? Remember, there's two of them, and they're fighting for, like... Dominance.

This one's the one that's going to be said during Christmas. Okay, so that one's the one with Linia Quigley, I think, is in that one. She's kind of like... Because her character's also coming back, which doesn't make any sense because she died in Return of the Living Dead. But...

And then there's also the one that Tar Man is doing, which is weird. So anyways, we'll see. Yeah, isn't the other one, like, they're trying to, like, digitally bring back, like, the original cast or something? Oh, no, come on. And I think the original cast is pissed off over that. Yeah. I'm sure. And a lot of that one is a lot of the original cast is going to be in the other one.

Okay. Are they going to bring that? It's going to be weird. Are they, Pedro, are they going to bring in that A. actress. What's her name? Tilly something? You know who I'm talking about? Tilly Swanson or whatever name is. That was a big old

hoopla over the last couple weeks. That was weird, huh? That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard, man. Well, that's the kind of the times we're in. Yeah. I guess so. Do you guys have the Waymos yet over where you guys live at? I have the Waymos are cars that are that drive by

themselves. No. They've got to been Austin. And they're like matter of fact here now. Like, like, yeah. They're just, I'm dissenticized to them. Like, I see them on the street and there's my driver. They're just, it's weird. I mean.

Would that freak you out, Brian? No, I'm not outside, so. But it is a trip when you see it for the first time, though. It is trippy. Like, it's like, well, that's not, that's weird. That shouldn't be happening. And the thing is that these are righteous. So it's like somebody has to have the courage to get in them.

You know, when you call them to come. Sure. See, now that's weird to me He's riding in one. Right? Yes, that's what they do. They're right here. So, yeah, so not the surprising.

I'm cool with it. I'm cool with it. I mean, they probably drive better than half the drivers on the road in Houston, that's for sure. But what happens when they don't want to? Yeah. Get it in their virtual mind

that they want to take over planet Earth and destroy the humans? Well, we're fucked anyway. At this point, everything's so integrated, there's no way out. There's no backing out. James Cameron was right the whole time. Yeah.

Point of no return. Or maybe Stephen King was right in maximum overdrive, Pedro. Maybe he was a genius, Brian. We got to wait for the comment. Yeah, I was just a comment. That was a comment. That wasn't man-made. And we're going to leave off on Cassandra Peterson,

known as Elvira, says her days, of portraying the character is coming to an end soon. Okay. Yeah, she's been on a little retirement to her lately, and, well, I mean, she's in her 70s now, so I think it's about time. Still looks good. Yeah. All right, that's the news. All right.

Pedro, you know where we're going, man. Going to take a little trip down to the trailer park. The old trailer park. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's on the docket tonight, Brian? The first one we're going to talk about is We Berry the Dead. This is directed by Zach Hiddlich and stars Daisy Ridley, Brendan Thwaites, and Mark Cole Smith. Okay.

Pedro, what did you think of We Burry the Dead? First of all I was, I mean, it's just weird to see Daisy Ridley's, I guess you could say, come back to a big, She's done little films here and there, right? She did that one where she was like the wall, like no, like the window washer and like an action movie. Oh, the cleaner? The cleaner, that's right. Oh, that's right. I forget about that one.

But I think this one's going theatrical. We bury the dead. I think it's going theatrical. So, I mean, it was just like a teaser. It looked interesting to me, you know. It seems like she gets caught up in this town and there's stuff going on. And, you know, she's trying to figure it out. I'm going to check it out.

Just from the little teaser we got, it was interesting. They're doing the whole like rage zombies, it seems like in this one, where they run and they chase you and they walk with their limbs, you know, broken and stuff. Right. That's such an old trope already. I'm tired of that trope. It kind of is now, right? Where the zombie has like a broken ankle and he's still kind of going after you.

Like, how many times have we seen that in a movie? Jesus. But this one's like really gnarly. It's like a whole leg cut in half. and the zombie, whatever it is, it's still walking. So, yeah, so it seems like it's going to be pretty by the numbers, but I'm always a sucker for these films, so I will be there when it opens.

Yeah, a little, the last of us in there with the sounds that they're making, a little clicking noises. But I'm rooting for her. You know, I think she got a bad rap in the Star Wars movies. You know, it wasn't her fault that some of those movies. sucked. Sure. She did her part. Yeah, well, I mean, she's coming back for another one, right? I mean, that's what they say. It would make sense.

I mean, give me that paycheck. I'll come back for another one. Yeah, no doubt. Because the Starfighter's already filming. We know that. With Brian Gosling. Right. And supposedly she's going to be a, not a big part of it, maybe even kept hidden like a secret cameo. So she, her character is still in canon and still around. So she's still going to be catching. some of those Star Wars spaychecks. Yeah. What'd you think, Lance? So in Star Trek lore, we have something called Lower Deck characters. You guys

familiar with this term? No. You're right? But I think I know where you're going. Well, yeah, like the blue collar guys, right? So you always see in the Star Trek episodes, you got the captain, you get the second in command, you've got the head science officer. They'd ever show you the guys that are down there

like, you know, scrubbing, you know, the hole and stuff like that, right? And cutting the potatoes and stuff like that, you know. So this kind of feels like that, you know, we bury the dead and it starts off. It's kind of like a, obviously society is collapsed, right? So people have to do what they, what they can do, what they can contribute to the society. So these guys look like they're just on kind of a cleanup detail, right? So kind of a blue collar zombie movie. So she's part of a body retrieval unit after a failed military experiment. Yeah, all right. Well, then so she's probably military.

This reminds me of Kevin Smith's dialogue and clerks when he's talking about the Death Star and all the Carpenter, all the unions that had to be involved to build the Death Star. Yes, absolutely. That's the, what do you call them? The below, what? Lower decks. The lower deck people. Yes.

We need more movies with lower deck people. Better to be lower deck than a red shirt. Absolutely. Yeah. Sometimes they go hand in hand, but yeah, you're right. Yes, they do go hand in hand. Right. I think this one is getting a limited theatrical release January 2nd.

All right. That's where the AMC Stubbs A-lister comes in handy because I always hit these up. Yeah. Why not? The ones that are only out there for about a week. I always make sure that I assume in the theater. Makes sense. It's logical.

27 bucks a month now, man. I gotta get my money's worth. Yeah. Why not? Our second and final trailer is Psycho Killer, produced by producers.

They flash big name movies. Supposed to attract you to the movie. Yeah, I hate it when they do that. Barbarian and weapons. Yeah. from one producer of weapons that made me laugh right there

so no it was from the producers of Barbarian and for one producer of weapons I saw that You only got one producer from weapons I guess I mean that's what they put on there Did you hey did you guys catch it They threw it out really fast

But it said from the from the caterers For the black phone Did you all see that? Yeah This is directed by Gavin Pallone and stars Georgina Campbell which we've seen her

and Barbarian there and there's your producer connection right Aaron Merck Dutches Kentano and Malcolm McDow that was weird to see him pop up in that

bizarre huh yeah yeah he he's you got a little glimpse of him in the trailer um this was another one I'm I think we're due for like the satanic panic kind of genre that comes and goes. And this one seems to be kind of like made for that, you know, with that kind of theme in mind.

It seems like from the trailer, she's looking like she's going after the killer. Maybe the killer kills some family member of hers. And then somehow she's offered like a portal into like finding the killer and getting in his head. Because I also got like some the cell vibes from the movie, you know, that Jennifer Lopez won with Vince Vaughn. Yeah, so it seems like like she she kind of agrees to some sort of like satanic ritual to where she could kind of get at this killer's level and then whatever she sees kind of freaks her out. So that's kind of what the vibe that I got from the trailer. But it looks interesting. It looks somewhat original and that's another one that I'm excited to watch.

Lance? I mean, look, they threw a lot of imagery. You guys have to admit in like an amazing. minute and a half trailer, they sure threw a lot of fucking imagery on there. And I don't know what the hell this is. So, I mean, yeah, visually, it looks, you know, captivating in certain parts. So I'm sure we're going to watch it. You know, it definitely looks like something that's going to be right up our alley. But I couldn't really tell you what it's about at this point. Yeah, I'm into this one. You get a little slasher vibe in there, a little crime, a little thriller.

little, the Patriot brought a little satanic panic kind of vibe. And I like Georgina Campbell and pretty much everything I've seen her. And even if the movie's not that great, I still liked her performance. Even the one where she was the Park Ranger? Oh, yeah, where she got,

was she in another dimension and another? Yes. It wasn't bad. You know, I like that new, we were talking about that new rabbit trap movie. Have you seen that one, Pedro? No, I haven't, but from the synopsis, it seems like it's one of those mind-fuck kind of movies. It is.

Yeah, and it's out in the woods. So, anyway, carry on, Brian. Didn't mean to interrupt. All right, Psycho Killer. This is another 2026 one. This one's not coming out until February 20th. Okay. Okay.

Well, it's not that long from now. I mean, time flies. Yeah. Sure. Three months. Yep, and that is all the trailers. All right, so that means it's time for listener feedback. And this week we're going to shine the podcast spotlight on three basket cases.

I think we're all here. We can't steal the name. They're already using it. All right, three basket cases are horror aficionados with a penchant for grading films, like their life or death decisions. We're not like that. No, we're not like that. Okay.

they they they deep dive into the world of B movie horror okay sounds like fun all right three basket cases um podcast spot light there's three guys three basket cases yeah might be three guys and a gal I don't who knows yeah yeah I don't know um but I'll check it out I'm definitely gonna check that one out because if they're if they're doing B horror and they're they're making it so theatrical and dramatic that everything's life or death on a B movie review. I got to check that out, man, see what that's all about, you know? All right, regarding Pet Cemetery Bloodlines, Rob Cheshire said, I found this disappointing.

Bought it the day it came out on TV. He must have wanted to return it. Is this NASS or what we're talking about? Now, Neswood has said 10 on 10. 10, I bought it. I own it. Yeah, all right. Regarding Jaws, Michael Arnaz says

Classic, and by the way, Michael, we definitely appreciate you, you know, chiming in on the Facebook page. But say something other than the classic, dude. Like, according to this dude, every movie's a fucking classic. I think it was like Friday the 13th, Part 7, director's cut, and he put...

It's a classic. Yeah, so... Lighten up on the classic, Michael. All right. Regarding Night of the Demons, Ryan Bay says, one of my faves. You guys like Nine of the Demons? Oh, I love that movie. I watch it every year in Halloween during Halloween.

One and two. Part three kind of sucks. One and two are really good. It's the superior movie to Kevin Teney's witchboard. Yeah, it is. I know, I know Ness would be upset at that, but I agree with you. I'm a stand-on business, Nez. It's the superior movie in his filmography.

Oh boy I think Nes might come at you But we'll see what happens All right Regarding psycho killer There you go Rob Cheshire said the trailer Looks so killer

Very promising And looking forward to watching it There you go All right I was not a classic Regarding Regarding Regarding the

The upcoming animated Nightmare on Elm Street Project Robert Alan Adams says, I've been saying that for years, they should just make a Nightmare in Ump Street animated movie with Robert England. Great Minds Think Alight. All right. What do you guys think of?

You like this idea, Pedro? I'm not into animation. I didn't really care for that Predator movie, even though it got good reviews. And even though it was made by the director, it still, I don't know. I can't get into animation. You know, I just can't. I've tried and I just can't do it. So I hope they don't, you know, I want a live action, Freddie.

I want before this guy, I mean, I'm not saying it's going to happen tomorrow, but before this guy bids IDO to this world because he's getting up there. Right. And even not even that, even not even that. We all are. Just putting the suit on, right? I mean, he's already past the age where he can't really put on the suit on anymore. But, I mean, he has gone on record saying that he will suck it up and go one more time if it happens anytime soon.

So I'm hoping that, you know, we get another nightmare on Elm Street. I'm hoping that box it that just came out with the 4Ks. I hope that does enough money to where Warner Bros. Like, you know what? Let's go ahead and fund another one because the box it did so well. The one you can't even get the damn steel book one.

Yeah. Well, I got it. I was lucky to have it because I'm always on top of those things. But they said they're not making anymore. It sold out. Same thing when out of the Living Dead 91 with the Tom Savini one. That one's also very difficult to get.

But yeah, you just a lot of these studios, they see how those numbers do, right? And then they'll be like, let's make another one. There's still an audience here for that. And so hopefully he gets the job, you know, because one last time, let's throw it on and make it good. Yeah, we can call it Grandpa Freddy.

You know, that's right. But I don't really care for the animated one or whatever animated thing they do. Yeah. You like some animated movies, Brian, I think. Yeah, but I need a live action one. We can't leave off. 2010's version.

So we're all in agreement then, but would much rather have him back, even if he's limping. Maybe they'll get that AI actress. What's her name again? Tilly something, right? Tilly, whatever. And then they could shave her head.

I mean, they ain't going to bother her none. And throw her on the makeup and, you know, hire her to be Freddie. All right. Yeah, I guess it could. work Pedro it could work. All right, where were we at, man? You guys threw me off.

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submit some new picks and we'll squeeze them in the schedule somewhere sounds good sounds good all right so featured attractions and we're going to do a dive into a couple of modern anthology films. Start out with Southbound from 2015. Five interlocking tales of terror follow the fates of a group of weary travelers

who confront their worst nightmare. This is well written man. And confront their worst nightmares and darkest secrets over one long night on a desolate stretch of desert highway. All right, directors and writers Roxanne Benjamin Matt Betanelli Olpen David Brutner there you go Pedro

Patrick Horvath and Radio Silence we all know radio silence now oh they got they blew up but this is the early years right here

yeah I think I was looking I think some of these filmmakers guys were kind of like cronies of Brutner right like worked with him and as assistant

director on films and things like that so yeah Well, Matt Ben and Lely opened. He's part of radio silence. He's one of them. So he wrote both of the stories, the beginning and the end story. Was it one of them in the background story?

Yeah, that's right. He was Jack. That's right. Oh, yes. Yeah, Matt Bennelly opened. So, yeah, so this was the first time I saw these guys and they caught my attention was that first. We get a little trivia. Go ahead.

Go ahead. All right, hold on. Yeah, sir to interrupt, man. All right, the hospital, we'll just knock this out quick. The hospital scenes in the accident were filmed in a non-functional wing of work. Why do we even say this? This doesn't really matter. The van that breaks down in the siren segment actually broke down on set during production.

That's interesting. So the van broke down for real in the siren segment. Okay, there you go. There's your trivia, Pedro. Have at it. Well, wait a minute. What was going on with the hospital? Why did I know you?

It was just an empty hospital? That was the trivia? I guess. It just says the hospital seems... I mean, we saw that in the movie. Well, they were filmed in a non-functional wing of a working hospital. That's how it's kind of weird. I know.

Super weird, right? Yeah, so anyways, I love this movie. That's all I'm going to say, right? So I'm going to throw a nest straight up 10 on 10. Better than him, huh? Oh, are you kidding me? Come on now. And, and, uh, and, uh, this is one of my favorite anthologies of all time.

I revisited at least once every two years or so. Yeah, I love it. Okay. This is one of those that also has a lot of symbolism in it. And, you know, we'll break it down as we go along. There's a lot of themes about, like, guilt and, you know, like a lot of themes on, like, just a lot of, like, the negative emotions that people deal with. It really works as a fever dream, you know? It really works.

Okay. Because as you're watching the movie, it's like, and it also does that question. thing I like about some anthologies where it's like you leave one character and then the other character is also part of that story but then you start following that character. I'm a sucker for that. Right. I think the last time we saw it

was in Trick or Treat. I think he did it, you know, where you kind of follow different characters but they're all connected. And it's not actually... Same town. Right. It's not actually like little different stories. One big story just follows different characters. And of course, like Southbound, it tells you, right? It's like

purgatory. It's how. the name says it right off the bat. And it has a lot of, like, it does like take a lot of little twist and turns. You end up, you end up finding out at the end that this is, this is the time loop. They're all caught in a big old time loop. That's kind of like the big reveal at the end of the film. My favorite story was the one, the third story, which is the accident where the guy has to carry the girl into that hospital you were talking about. and he has to kind of these voices,

which make you think they're like EMTs and doctors, they're kind of guiding him along. But as the story is going, it's getting more and more creepier, right? Because they're kind of like getting more personal. And to me, it was like, that's probably my favorite one. I just found they're very creepy and unsettling.

Sure. But I also like the themes of that movie. It's just kind of dealing with his own guilt over, I'm sure in my own mind in the real world, something happened with this guy where he probably hurts somebody or kill somebody, right? And he's dealing with that guilty conscience. And this is the way it was represented when he's in purgatory.

And he's taken through this kind of quest to kind of forgive himself, right? And at the end, he does forgive himself. He's like, it wasn't my fault. She was there. And then the voices are kind of guiding him along and saying, you're right, it wasn't your fault. And so at the end, he kind of forgives himself. up and then drives off and wherever and his story ends there.

So you see a lot of that. You see a lot of that in this film that I really like. Then we have another story, the second story with the three girls. And then they also have a lot of guilt over what happened to their friend, their best friend who's no longer there. And there's a lot of like, there's a lot of blaming. So they're also taking through this quest of like that one, that one's a little like talking about like satanic panic.

That one has a lot of like Satanism in it with the rituals. That's another good story. And I feel for five stories for the film only being like 89 minutes, there is a lot packed into this movie. You know, I'm not going to go through every story one by one because I want you guys to talk about it too. But yeah, this is this is one of my go-tos every year. I remember when it first came out back in 2015, it was a very hard movie to kind of see because it wasn't available. You know, it was kind of, you had to really track it down. But when I saw it, I was in awe.

And it really has that Halloween vibe to it. Like that little town, the cinema. photography. It really works for like that Halloween season. You throw it on late at night. You know, maybe you could double feature it with VHS Part 1, which is where I first saw the radio silence. That was the first introduction that I had to radio silence because they directed the last, uh, the last house one, VHS. Yeah, the haunted house, which is awesome. That was one with the hands coming out of the wall and everything. Yeah. Okay. I really remember that one. Um, and so I think this would be like a good double feature. So yeah, so,

So I really, really liked it. I really liked this movie. What are your thoughts on it, both of you? What did you think, Brian? Yeah, I agree with everything, Pedro said. This is one of the better horror anthologies out there. I was never bored with any of the segments. I also agree to Pedro that the accident is my favorite one,

just how the story progresses and it gets more creepier. And the voices that are guiding him are slowly changing, getting more sinister. her. The practical effects on the girl that got hit by the car, her legs just barely holding on, it's barely hanging there. Yeah. And after he does all that and essentially

assist in killing her, they let him go and tell him you don't have to worry about it no more. And he just drives away with that guilt. I thought that was pretty deep right there. And my second favorite, would probably be a jailbreak with the brother searching for his sister for the past 13 years. Yeah, that was true.

He finally finds her just to find out she killed the parents and wanted to be where she is and that he came for no reason. I thought that was a good one too. Yeah, this whole thing is, like I said, I agree with everything except Pedro. There's so much packed in here and it just goes, it moves and moves. there's never a dull moment. And yeah, if you haven't seen it, I 100% recommend you check out Southbound.

Right. And what I like about that story, Joe, break is, again, we're talking about, like, human emotions and a lot of, like, the process that goes with that. Like, he went there, he was looking for her. And even after she told him, like, I want to be here. I deserve to be here because of what I did.

And anything else you do past this is going to be on you. Right. And then, and so it's almost revealed that, that his pursuit for his sister was more about him trying to have an identity. He's, that was his, yeah, which people do all the time,

right? People always do that all the time. Like, like, for example, like parents will like, you know, smother their children,

not because they want to really take care of their children, but because they give us the parent the identity of like, I'm a good parent, you know? They're doing it more for themselves. Right. Exactly. So it's the same thing in this situation where it's like,

even after he knows everything, he still wants to take her home with him. and she's like, I don't want to go, but whatever happens from this point forward is going to be on you. And, you know, he gets taken by the demons. And then another cool thing that we find out is that this is a big review in the entire movie, because this is the first time we see that there's demons in this little town and that, you know, we did see those little monsters that are floating, those little sentinel-looking things. But you really start to see that the actual residents are actually demons.

And they're the ones that have been kind of... Sorry, not to cut you off, which they actually gave him an opportunity to leave when he first goes into the bar and pulls the gun. They're like, you don't want to do this. Yeah, you don't want nothing. Just put the gun down. Walk out the door and go on your way. Right.

Yeah, and he didn't. And then he ended up getting killed or who knows with this. Because again, they're in a big old time loop. So eventually isn't going to happen again and again and again. And yeah, so that's another great story. The last story is also really good with the two brothers, with the writer, the, you know, radio silence guy. And yeah, you get, it's revealed that.

they're the ones from the beginning and then they start the loop all over again, you know? Yeah, of course. So, yeah, just a really good movie. So, Lance, what are your thoughts? So, yeah, to me, this movie was kind of like an exercise in paranoia. Because, like, I really like the segment where the band breaks down, right? And then you get these, there should be absolutely nothing wrong with that, that older, conservative-looking couple, right? They're in a small town.

You know, this couple wants to help them out. you know, get them down the road and help them get to somebody that can fix their tire and all this stuff. But, and yet there's just something sinister, right? Like from the get-go, we know the second we see those people, they're too happy, there's something weird going on here.

They're too eager to help. They're too trapped in the 50s. Yeah, they were just too fucking eager to help, man. It's like red flag, red flag. Maybe they've been there since the 50s. It's a pretty damn good point, dude. Yeah, you know what? I think that this movie would make an excellent TV.

TV series, you know, maybe do 10, 12 episodes. And I would make each episode a story like this, and I would use the same format, right? Where you've got characters that mesh or that bleed over into the next segment, and then they take the ball and run with it to the next. I really love that style of filmmaking. It felt very, I don't know, it just kind of felt like it was one big film rather than, it didn't feel like an anthology to me. It just kind of felt like a road film, like where you see a whole bunch of different

characters and they enter their lives intertwine and and stuff like that so yeah i think that would be really cool man to take this concept and and stretch it out to like 10 episodes and have one character their their story arc and then when that story arc is over they passed the the the can i have a him analogy for you here pedro they passed the football over to the next uh character to do the next to do the next story so yeah i think i think we all enjoyed this one what do you guys think for scores? I'm going to go, for this one, I'm going to go nine on ten. I expected ten, but okay.

No, I mean, it's, you know, it's hard to get a perfect movie. That's difficult. Yeah. But for this particular situation or movie, I should say, it's going to be a nine on ten. It's very rewatchable. Again, it's one of those movies that because there's so much symbolism, you pick something new up every time you watch it. It's short as 89 minutes.

I mean, what else do you want? Yes. And it's done by, I mean, these guys, look at them. They all blew up. So you know they were talented from the jump. You know, I mean, at this time in their careers, they were still kind of struggling, trying to find their footing. But as we saw later on, they became kind of mainstream and well-deserved because they're

very talented writers and filmmakers. And you could see it with this movie. So I think this movie, what makes it really good is the writing and the directing, because you're engaged the whole time. Like, you're like, you're kind of just fixated on what's going to happen. It does something that a lot of films have a hard of this ilk have a hard time doing. And that's giving you kind of like the creeps, you know, kind of like getting the hair standing up, especially in the one, the accident. Again, I go back to that.

If you're watching that for the first time and you have all the lights off and you don't really know what you've never seen that movie before, you're going to get a little creeped on, man. Those voice starting getting more sinister. Well, it throws you off, Pedro, because at first you think it's somebody actually trying to help them. It's like it's like a paranoid delusion, right? Like if you're on the phone with EMS and you're tripping on acid or something, right? Picture that. And then all of a sudden you start hearing them say, go kill your mother and father. You know, it's like, but they slip into that.

It's very, very well done, right? Because they don't just start yelling or something. Yeah, so the writing, I commend the writing. But yeah, I give this film a nine on ten. Good score. What about you, Brian? Yeah, nine on ten. This was fantastic.

One of the better horror anthologies. solid storytelling. The acting was pretty good, and there's a good practical effects in there. Just a fun time from start to beginning. All right. Well, yeah, I'm gonna, I'll go eight. I'll go eight.

I really enjoyed it. Obviously, you know, it's not a super high budget movie, but we're not going to hold that against him at all. And, you know, I almost want to give an extra half point just for Larry Fessenden's voice as being the DJ. DJ. the car. That was,

that was kind of perfect, man. So, he wasn't Stephen Wright like in reservoir dogs, but he was, no, but he did his best. He did his best.

He did his best. He did was awesome. Yeah, for sure. All right. Um, so we all, we all recommend that. Let's move on to VHS Halloween to see if the good vibes

continue here. All right. A collection of Halloween theme video, it's from 2025. Collection of Halloween theme videotapes. Unleashes a series of twisted blood-soaked tails, turning trick-or-treat into a struggle for survival. See, this just sounds like a pitch, right?

Like that other tagline that we read for the other movie was like poetry almost. And this is just like, you know, this is like selling giving barf bags out at the door. So let's see how this goes. I look into your review. I don't know. No, but what I love about this is irritable lands. I love irritable. Because you're pissed off about the trivia.

You're pissed off about it. we need more irritable lands in our lives but uh anyways yeah what about this this generic line or log line or whatever all right well look let's move on we got we'll talk about it more directors writers brian m ferguson casper kelly r h norman michelin micheline pit anna zlochovic and the only name i recognize paco plaza oh boy who did he owe money to All right, kid print was a free service offered by Blockbuster video in the mid-1990s. Participating stores had a kiosk that children stood in front of that showed their height, and staff would use a VHS camera to record a short video of them speaking basic information about themselves.

Parents would then take home the tapes to use for ID purposes in case their child went missing. So that's some trivia, I guess, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, hey, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Different time. As Nes would say, it was a different time, boys and girls. So, all right, Brian, what did you think about these? How do you want to do this? You want to round robbing the segments or just go through the whole thing each?

What do you think is best? I think we could just jump around kind of like we did what we did with Southbound. You know, we don't have to talk about it. All right. I don't think we have to worry too much. about spoilers do y'all because i mean there's not really anything to spoil i mean

is there there's no i i guess there is in the one of the one of the ones that i the segment that i have a lot of trouble with in this movie yeah the candy segment or no no that was that i have i have issues with that segment as well but the one before that with different issues the affirmation taping the guy let's start with you then right okay so so the so the so the run

has ended officially. I didn't really like this movie. I know. It was okay, I guess. It's a tradition now. Every October, we get one. But there was a couple segments here that were way, and listen, I'm not, I'm not, you know, I don't really care. It just, I don't like when things are mean for the sake of being mean, because I'm old now and I just don't like that stuff. Yeah, I get it. And there was a very mean-spirited segment here in this. And we'll talk about it in spoilers. You know, and, and, And so that kind of messed up the whole experience for me. But also even before that, like a lot of these segments were very unoriginal. They did a lot of the old, like, let's run with the camera shaking, you know, kind of trope that we see in a lot of. But not all of them have that. For whatever reason, the first three all had that in a row. And it's like we get like, you can't see anything. You're seeing people screaming, the camera's shaking.

Yeah. Like what's going, you know. Right. And so the first three segments, I think, had that. I mean, I'm not counting the Coca-Cola or whatever, the soda segment, which was weird in itself. That was, yeah, I don't, all right. But like the Cucci-Cooko one with the, you know, the first one, I guess, is the official first one. Sure.

A lot of running through a house, bad camera going everywhere. Then they had the- Bad, bad angles and bad photography. Our boy, Paco Plaza, we respect them, but he kind of, you know, he stained the bed in this one. because he also had a lot of that whole you know I know he was awesome in rec and everything and in wreck too oh yeah

here he had the same thing just running and then people screaming um and and and uh yeah so so that that's I don't know I didn't really I didn't really care for this one um I want to talk about what about the candy one man that one was cool

really I thought that one was real mean-spirited dude no it was mean-spirited but but it was something you know you know what okay i'm gonna i'm this is a minor spoiler but not a big spoiler because there's nothing to spoil here let's be honest there's nothing to spoil here i really like that shot of the witch breaking out of the of the of the store no no that was the last one i'm getting confused yeah that was the haunted house right yeah yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry no you're right the the other one with the with the phallic stuff no i didn't i didn't care for that yeah fun side that was fun size i didn't even really make sense oh yeah fun size

Yeah, it didn't really make no sense. That's the problem. It made no sense. I don't mind that kind of silliness and surrealism, but give us a story, man. You know, I guess I just made my argument against him, didn't I? But here's the thing like it seems to first of all, these were all very very young new filmmakers. Like you said that they really don't have a resume. It seems like this year they really Cut the budget even more than they have in the past. They didn't strike gold with anyone this year, did they? No, maybe they just paid Paco Plaza and then everyone else like copy credit. You know, I don't know what they got, but, but yeah, I sense there was a lot of like first-time directors and a lot of like not really knowing how to compose shots or whatnot. And you could tell. And you could see the quality went down a little bit from the previous years.

So I don't know. We'll see. But I didn't really care for this movie. Yeah, I don't know. I guess we'll just kind of talk conversational, you know, because I think we can all chime in a little bit. It's kind of weird, right? Because unlike the other movie, these were like five literal standalone stories, right? Not one single one of them had any carryover or character bleed over or anything like that.

So I kind of like the haunted houseman at the end a little bit, but that one got mean-spirited too, you know? Yeah, you know. But okay, but there was a charm to that, all right? There was a charm to it. Yeah, I like the charm. Because I feel like that. Okay, so now let's talk a little about the haunted house one. Because, again, I like that whole the witch breaking out of the house.

That was awesome. That was a cool shot. I don't know if they used miniatures. I love that shot. And then the point of view of the witch, you know. And then she, and then she, could we just say spoilers now, man? Yeah, look, Brian. Are you okay with that?

Okay. Yeah, I don't care. Because, okay. Then I'm seeing her fly, and I'm like, that's pretty cool. And then she grabs a kid. Right. And she has this kid who I think is wearing the Halloween three pumpkin. That's just me thinking.

Are you serious? I didn't even catch that. No, no, I just me thinking it. They probably were. And then she rips the kid's throat and then he just drops them. I know. But here's my defense of that. And this is the difference between the previous.

Yeah, I think it was the previous one. This one very much established. thing right this one very much established like a cartooning nature to the to the segment right it was kind of like uh it wasn't based in the real world and it was like um so so i was okay with that but but but the one with the with the video that one was just mean it was mean and it was like why you know um and one of the things with me nowadays is that i hate torture porn like i cannot watch those movies from the from the mid two thousands that their whole purpose was to have this villain come in and kill all these innocent people,

and then the villain just gets away with it. That was cool back in the day. You know, everybody kind of got a kick out of that. But nowadays it's like, no, I want to see people get their comeuppance because that's the story, right? That's the beginning. And to me, it was like, what is the point of that story with the guy with the video? Like, it was just very mean-spirited.

And so that one kind of left, you know, it left the bad taste in my mouth. Understandable. What did you think, Brian? I don't know, man. I had a lot of fun with this one. Okay. With all of them? I would say the Paco Plaza one was probably the least entertaining one because I felt like I've seen that scenario before.

Absolutely. The phrase they were saying translates to as above so below. Yeah, but I would say that one was the most professionally shot one, Brian. Yeah, but these are new filmmakers. and I appreciate that we got new filmmakers and they got a chance to shine on a bigger platform and I don't know, the fun size one I thought was hilarious

I kind of didn't mind it was mean-spirited people. Like I said, it was because it was very cartoony. I don't think that one was mean-spirited. And again, I love that, the witch at the end, flying like that, that was a, I love that time. It's just like all of us, she just grabs a kid and just like mangles it.

Oh, shit, okay. But I was cool. with it. Then the second kid gets impaled by the end of the broom and he's just flying a race. Oh, that's right. That's right. Great. I was even entertained

by the wraparound story because it was so fucking weird, the diet phantasma. Mm-hmm. I think what I got out of that is that I guess little kids are impressionable, right? And you could use them for propaganda purposes, whereas adults, we all have

our own baggage and we're like wasted goods. So, like, you know, that's why when he was, when he kept on trying to experiment with adults, something would always happen. And I guess at the end, we find out that the purpose was to capture polter guys to add flavor with the soda or some shit. And so the little girl was more, it's original, you know, you got to say that. Yeah, no, that was cool with it.

That was, you know, and the little girl was more, I guess you could say, not virginal, but, you know, it was more like she was pure. More pure than adults, yeah. And so I got it and I enjoyed it too. Yeah. And I also like the coo-coo-cucy-coo one. That's how it was just weird and twisted. They go into the house that they can't get out of.

And then you got this multiple breasted mother, the mommy or whatever. I got barbaric, I got barbarian vibes, Brian. Yeah. I don't know. I just thought it was twisted the way their story plays. laid out every room they went into there was you go in one room there's a woman that's being confined being forced fed the breast milk sure you got the weird man baby that's right there's a man baby in there i forgot yeah i just i just had fun with it and i thought some of them were

pretty creative and and and they were worn they were worn before they went into that house i think they were worn not to go into that house and they didn't listen sure so they got they got what they deserved. Yeah, because somebody said something about the legend of the mommy. Yeah. It's going to get you. And they were like, oh, that's a, that's a myth. That's a bunch of bullshit.

So, yeah, they were warned. And you see that there's a lot of people that had been missing so that it tells you that this has been going on for a while. Yes. I really like that. It reminded me of the one, was it last year or two years ago, when they go into the house with the big old bird? Remember there was a big old bird?

Oh, I think that was last year. Yeah. Was it? Okay. It kind of reminded me of that. But I guess I'm just tired of the whole like shoot them up POV, you know? Like, it's like. No, understandable.

Yeah. And then we had like three in a row like that. So I was like, dude, we just saw this same POV. We're going to have it in the Paco Plaza one and whatnot. But yeah, I agree with you. I think the Paco Plaza, even though it was the most stylized, I guess, in a way, it was also the most generic one because it was literally a guy that goes in. and they don't believe him

and then he goes in again and shit happens and that's the end of the story like it happens twice you know stop me if you've heard this one before right yeah

but anyways Brian what's up keep on going yeah and I also like the last one with the haunted house just the effect we already talked about the witch popping out at the end

I just like how I even like how it ended with the big hands coming over the walls of the that was neat the front of the haunted house Yeah, kind of like a Cthulhu type thing or something. Yeah, I don't know. I was just entertained, you know, it's not as good at Southbound, but it didn't need to be just like Southbound.

No, yeah, not expected to be. But I always hold it to the standards of other VHS films in the, you know, in the history of the films. Because at this point, we got like seven or eight of them. So what did you think of Kidprint then? Kidprint, I do agree. It was mean-spirited. But, you know. It also touched that nostalgic part of me because I do remember when they used to do those little videos back in the day. Okay. So it was fine.

It was probably on the lesser that and the Paco Plaza one. It was probably the least. I don't want to say least entertaining. I was entertained. If I had to rank them, they'd probably be on the lower end. I think we all like the haunted house segment

the most, right? Yeah. Yeah. That was probably my favorite then. followed by the one with the mommy. I think that would be my second favorite. And, but I don't know.

I think the one, the kid print, the reason why it left me with a negative lasting impression is because it did linger on some shots too long, like some of the kids suffering or whatnot. And then that one got, the one that got his face cut off or whatever is, it's just stuff like,

why? Like, you know, it just, And then there's no comeuppance at the end. It's just like, oh, the guy got away with it. It's like, okay, well, I don't need to see that shit. Well, at least it didn't say to be continued at the end, right? We could definitely tell this guy that this is, the movie is not a classic.

This guy that keeps up coming up with all these classics. Unlike Friday of the 13 Part 7, VHS Halloween is not a classic. Right, right. All right. Well, I think that's it. You guys ready for scores? Yeah. Yeah.

So I'll go, I'll go, I'm going to go seven on ten on this one. Okay. It's higher than I thought you were going to give it. Yeah, I mean, it's the, I appreciate the effort. I know, I know they have limitations with budget, you know, and like Brian was saying, it was a bunch of new filmmakers. Some of them, I think this is their first thing they've done. So just kind of getting that work in.

Who knows, we could have the next radio silence in this batch of filmmakers. You never know. Could be. So I appreciate that. Some of the cinematography was good, like the haunted house at the end of the, you know. Oh, Brian, we didn't get your thoughts on fun size because that's the one that really ate it. The candy one, Brian.

I thought it was hilarious. I thought the actual creature would pop out. He would just like, fun size. Yeah, but yeah, but like a bad video game. What's the fascination with like penises and stuff, though? I guess that was the punchline. I did like the fact that the two, the one couple was dressed up like a found footage camera operator from a horror movie, which explains the camera shots from them.

Yeah, I guess. Okay. Yeah, I'm going four on this one. No, that's not bad. That's just barely below average. I mean, it is bad. Hey, Lance, whatever you want. Barely below average is not bad.

Yeah. All right. So four on 10 for me, Brian. What you got? I'm going to give it an eight. Like I said, it hit that entertainment fun factor for me. So give it an eight. It's not the best in the franchise, but it definitely fell in the category of Halloween movies.

Except for the Paco Plaza, a one. Everyone was very Halloween oriented, which I liked. And I can see this probably being in the rotation for Halloween for me. Yeah, I'll give it a rewatch next year. You know, you never know.

I might change my mind, but I think I was just more disappointed because I liked the other one so much more. But again, to each their own. So are we going to do you guys put this one in one of your 31 days? Do you guys count this one as one of them? I don't

Count movies we're reviewing the main show for 31. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it's actually watched like 40 movies in October or 45 movies in October. Well, yeah, I'm also doing 31 with my daughter. She's got her own list. Nice. Brian's going to do the Jim Law thing, it sounds like.

You heard the 60 movies in October. Yeah. When it's all said and done. Yeah, so far we're through, we started with the Halloween franchise. We're all the way from the first. From the first one to resurrection. And she's very confused with the multiple timeline switching. Yeah, there's five timelines.

There's five timelines in that. Oh, wow. Next thing they need is a time loop, right, Pedro? Now, you're on fire today, Lance. All right, all right. So we want to thank you guys for listening to. Pedro, thanks for coming by, dude. I don't know, are you scheduled for anything else at this time?

or do we need to... No, that's it, man. All right. Well, I'm sure Brian will have our new schedule out soon. I know Brian's got a lot... Plan for us for Christmas. So we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. You know where to find us at thehorrorreturns.com.

And we just re-uped our website domain ownership for five more years. So we will be around. It's just thehorrorreturns.com. Go where you want from there. We'll be linking. We're going to be doing a new improved YouTube channel. So look for that. We're going to link that you. I hear that you crazy kids like the YouTube's. So we're going to be hooking that up to our website as well.

Next week, Steve from the Geeks is going to be back for, oh, God. Those are always my favorites. Yeah. What's your preference? You a goolies or a critters guy? Oh, critters. Critters. I'm not really a Gullis guy. Yeah, it's kind of hard to get into, isn't it? Yeah.

You guys are in part two, right? Yes. Okay. Part two of each one. So, uh, uh, okay, on that note, Pedro, until the horror returns again. Good night.