The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #494: Predator 2 (1990) & Predator: Badlands (2025)

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

Steve's here to talk Predator. Cool of the week includes Frankenstein and Fat Man. Trailers are Influencers and Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die. The podcast spotlight shines on Jaunty Haunts. And we get feedback from Daryl Oakley, Leigh Mitchell O'Donnell, Faith Baltali, Shaina Lopez, Rob Cheshire, Michael Arnaz, Xim Vader, Hellsing Thirteen/Thirteen, and Kuchiki Cieylah Sim. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

Greetings, victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome, you have found the place where the whole, the whole, return, you have found the place where the whole return. Listeners beware, this podcast contains major plot spoilers on the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. all right welcome back one and all to the whore returns i'm philip and with me is brian steve and nes may join us later but we'll see how that goes uh we're sort of winging it this week but i guess we'll start out with the uh pool of the week brian what you got oh where is my list well you got a list yeah i got i got some shows and i got some movies uh still working me and my daughter still working our way through walking dead we're up to season nine now oh man you're like in the

thick of it yeah i think i think i'm i think i'm at the point where i dropped off so i think from here on out it's just it's all going to be your first time watch for me okay is it any good still i'm enjoying it i don't know if it's the show or just seeing my daughter's reactions to things I told her from the beginning don't hold on to characters and she seemed to not listen to that and it's rooting for certain characters and rooting for other characters

like spoilers for anybody who hasn't seen Walking Dead she was really mad when they didn't kill Negan and they captured him oh yeah yeah that was dumb she was a big fan of Glenn so yeah

you got to kill after that yeah uh checked out this uh new show that started on apple tv plus called plurvis i think that's how you pronounce it okay it's made from the it's made from the creator of breaking bad okay and basically this outbreak happens throughout the planet it's kind of it's real sciencey because it says it's not a virus It's more of a recipe that they got. It's like an alien recipe that they got through some kind of sound waves or radio waves from another galaxy or something. And they did the lab thing and tested it.

And, of course, we're testing it on animals. And then someone got bit. And then they passed it on. Basically, it creates a hive mind of everybody on the planet. including the animals i don't know if they even got to that part yet but the high mind is like everybody's connected nobody's an individual okay and there's like 11 people on the entire planet that is was not affected by it and the main character is like trying to figure it out and she's having

these negative outbursts to because the the hive mind people are very polite and want to be helpful and she's freaking out and every time she has a negative reaction it makes them go into seizures and since it's a hive mine oh it happens throughout the world and she's essentially depending on what these people are doing she's killing people oh wow and yeah it's it's it's pretty good so far it's real sciencey you got to pay attention when they start trying to explain it because even the part where they were trying to explain it, they were even like, we don't even know how it works.

Yeah. Usually the sciencey stuff in shows is just half-ass made up anyway. Yeah. So that's pretty good. On Netflix, I checked out a new show called Wayward, starring Tony Collette. Oh, okay. It's about these two kids that get sent to this kind of reform school,

and they kind of find out that it's more of like, a cult that the town's involved because there's like all the people in town are like former graduates of this reform school and there's like no children the only children that are in the town are kids that are getting fostered from the reform school and tony collates the person that runs the the school she's essentially like the cult leader oh i know what that is yeah yeah i check i watched the whole season it's pretty good um i thought i was under impression this was a limited miniseries but the way the the season ended it looks like they're setting up for a second season

but it's pretty good i've scrolled past it a couple times and yeah it's very young adult kind of stuff but the the mystery and the the cult stuff kind of keep you wrapped up in the story so okay i didn't realize it was like a cult thing i thought it was just some fucking horror reform school thing or something i'm like i don't watch it no you get you get the cult vibes very early okay and uh checked out two movies uh checked out this movie match on toby it's a to be original the reason i checked it out because everybody was just saying it was disgusting and repulsive people were throwing up in the theaters?

I guess. On their couches? Yeah. I didn't get none of that. Maybe it's just, I'm desensitized. There were some, I guess,

gross moments in it, but it wasn't making me turn away from the screen. It's just basically this lady, she's going on dates with one of those like dating apps, like Tinder or whatever. And she goes,

goes on a date she goes to meet this guy at the house and essentially everything goes sideways and had some stuff in there that i wasn't expecting it's actually a pretty good movie for to be original it's just i wasn't grossed out by anything okay and my cool the week uh back to netflix was a gerimo del toros frankenstein yeah Yeah, that was one of mine. Yeah. I thought the visuals were great. The acting was on point.

I did have a little problem with the runtime because it's like two and a half hours. Yeah. But other than that, I thought it was a great take on it. They kind of made you feel for Frankenstein. I thought, what's his name? Jacob. You already did a fantastic job as Frankenstein. Yeah.

And then they kind of. kind of made him like super powered in this one well but that makes sense yeah I think that works so uh yeah no I enjoyed it too

it was definitely had the Guillermo del Toro fish love story going but I guess there wasn't any Frankenstein sex so no which I kind of thought there was

I mean you got me a goth I'm sure she has no problem doing those kind of weird Frankenstein sex scenes. Yeah, I was really expecting her to come out of some clothes. Yeah, which she was actually compared to other roles we've seen her and was kind of reserved in this one.

Yeah. Not as weird and wacky as she usually is. Yeah, she kind of played it straight. And I thought Oscar Isaac did a great job as Victor Frankenstein. Yeah. Yeah, solid movie.

Really long, but solid. Yeah, it's my cool of the week, Frankenstein. All right. Well, I'll go with Frankenstein, and I watched Fat Man for the first time, finally. Oh, with Mel Gibson? With Mel Gibson is Chris Pringle. I had a pretty good time with it.

It was good. I had a Walter Walton Gaggins Yeah Yeah As the They kept listening

In the subtitles As Skinny Man So I don't know if that had anything to do with it But It seems like he was just a Shithead kid Yeah that's a Like if you

If anybody wants like a more serious I guess take on Violin Night Yeah Then it would be fat man And it still had a pretty good like moral to the story you know like they're just looking for the christmas spirit it's like elf but brutal yeah uh yeah and and and and and those two is what i well i also was watching the new uh uh squid games challenge oh yeah so i was just got to find yeah it's it's fun to watch man

it's stupid and cheesy but I mean they've got like the real sets and you know when people die they get a little squib in their chest and they have to fall down like they're dead so that's always fun great job of making you dislike people oh yeah absolutely

there's a couple people that I didn't even think was even going to make it to like what is it the final five now or six or something yeah they narrowed it down pretty quick but you know they were killing off like half the people in every game so yeah uh but yeah that's what that's what i got for cool of the week all right well we'll roll it on over to horror headlines what do we got

all right uh start with some tv news kurt russell is officially back for uh monarch uh legacy of monster season two that's the godzilla con monster verse tv show on apple tv plus so he's officially coming back which i'm assuming his son would come back because he played the younger version of him yeah that makes sense throw some flashbacks in there uh let's see alien earth uh officially green lit for season two

okay well see where they go with it you think they're going to be able to keep the quality as high it depends if we get alien earth season two like next year or early next year I think it's because they rushed it but if they take their time with it

I think they'll keep the same quality yeah I think so orphan three is officially filming which I didn't even know this was happening and it's going under the tentative working title

of orphans so are we getting more than one killer orphan? Maybe. I don't know who asked for this one. Well, I think the second one did pretty good. It was a Paramount Plus release. Yeah, I can't remember if I even

watched the second one or not. I think we reviewed it and I think we all were kind of like not that it was great but it was better than it should have been yeah yeah i already forgot that i watched it one of those and last up you can say the same thing about this one uh who asked for this one uh filming has officially wrapped

which i didn't even know they started filming on the next insidious movie oh there's more yeah they gotta stop those like they are like three movies ago they are bringing back lynn shay somehow some way and no patrick wilson so all new characters outside of lynchay well i mean good that we have lynchay in there so she got to keep it interesting but you know what was the last one she was in that last key one that was pretty hot garbage I can't remember which one I thought was the worst

that one or what was the last one the red door oh yeah the red door I didn't completely hate the red door definitely wasn't needed but it's like they just keep

they may as well be poltergeist movies you know yeah well slow news week we're heading into the holidays so it might be like this for for a couple weeks but that is the news all right on down to the trailer park gonna bring the big the small and sometimes the very very weird what is our first new trailer to talk about this week uh this one's a sequel i think the original one influence came

out a couple years ago on Shudder. This one's called Influencers. Oh, I was like, didn't this movie already come out? Yeah, this is the sequel. I guess this is the continuing story because she was essentially killing influencers and taking over their lives. And this one pretty much looks like she's on the run

for killing these people. Okay. I never actually watched the first one. It's pretty good. Yeah. It's actually pretty good. she did a i think the main what's the main act christ cassandra nod and that is her actual birth mark on her face yeah i figured and she did actually yeah which they kind of make it a kind of a thing in the

first one and you're just kind of like it's not really a big deal yeah but they try to she is you know not somebody who's going to go under the radar yeah a big thing

on your face but I'll probably end up watching this one I'm not really it's not really top of my list because it

looked like they're going outside of the horror elements and more thriller yeah yeah yeah

I'll go back and watch the first one eventually. But, yeah, no, I just thought this was the trailer for the first one. I was like, wait a minute. I mean, it pretty much looks like the trailer for the original one. It's just assuming these people are influencers and she's hiding and she may be blowing her cover, trying to kill more influencers or something. Yeah. Oh, look, we got Steve coming in.

Well, anyway, yeah, we already started. That's cool. It's 5.30 on the dot. Come on. No, I know. I didn't even mean to set it up for that. I was just trying to figure it out, man, because we're missing our fearless leader today.

Got it, got it. We need your cool of the week. Have you guys already talked about Frankenstein? Yes. A little bit. Yeah, that's besides Predator. that's in a short week is really all I've watched it was it was long

we talked about that but I thought like visually it was great some cool action shots but it felt like a very expensive play it did it didn't feel like a movie a lot of times even when he was even with the ship stuff it felt like it was on the sound stages you know

I have my gripes but it was really well done you know it's really good yeah like a lot of lot of really cool scenes of like just walking through the rain where it was just visually kind of great yeah i'm assuming most of it was on a sound sound stage because i'm assuming they didn't really have wolves as bad as those wolves looked i just now remember that yeah it's good point it's okay i'm okay with them looking a little fake you know the wolves looked bad but what happened to him was cool it's pretty vicious he he has a thing with jaws you know he likes to remove them from things yeah signature move it's pretty good rift that dude's beard off yeah i you know i'd

give it a high sidekick on ours so for years probably like around seven eight you know it's good but like when when frankestine was like he's like now it's my turn to tell the story i was like oh shit here we go boring like god damn it's an hour are you looking through a hole in the wall, bro. I'm so fucking cool. I just want to live in harmony with the little mice. What happened in the hour of the movie?

Looked through a hole, he built a fence. Fuck. It's been a long time. And we're in trailer park now. I just real quick want to get your thoughts on some of these headlines. Kerr Russell officially back from Monarch season

two. Monarch was good. But that's a bin show. You can't, that's not a week to week show. Like, yeah, I saw a lot of people falling off that show and they're like, I just can't, and I agree, like, I wouldn't have been able to keep up with that week to week, but watching it all in one go, that was

a good show. But you need to be able to get it at the right pace. Alien Earth officially renewed for season two. Great. Love that show. It was really, really good. Yeah. That's... I'm kind of a sucker

from all things, aliens and predator, Yeah, I was super impressed with that one I kind of like the alien stuff better than the predator stuff Maybe I don't know, I guess we'll find out tonight You get different things like with alien I expect that to be a little bit more elevated A little bit more smart with Predator

I want more action more jokes more You know stuff like that Orphan 3 officially starts filming Under the title Orphans Which one was that? Was that the one with the little girl was like a old it was like a real woman yeah i didn't see the second one i was like how is it a prequel when she's way older i just never bothered with it yeah i can't remember i still can't

remember if i've actually watched the second one i think i did a lot of just forgot about it did a lot of force perspective stuff i don't know that even the first one was felt felt gross watching it like this i don't like this and lastly we will be talking about and uh you i remember your guys have review about the insidious movies so i'm sure you're not excited that they just started or they had rap filming on the new one and they're bringing lynchay back as like a force ghost or is she like what is she sure no patrick wilson so no song she's in the underside now there's where you're wrong right just because there's no Patrick Wilson doesn't mean there's no song

okay I feel like he planted his flag in something and I don't think he's ready to get rid of it trying to put that out in the universe so I guess now it's happening now it's happening the insidious movies it's weird because I I like the ones most that nobody likes

like I really liked skeleton key but that's I like the side characters more I didn't like the family and the lipstick face guy so I like three three was pretty good which one was that What Dormont Maruni was the father and the little girl.

And then at the end, they introduced Jenna Ortega. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. She was going to be the next case, but they dropped the ball on that one. Well, she got famous. They couldn't afford her. Maybe that's what happened. Yeah, I just don't, I don't know where, I don't care about the further, you know, like the, the, um, the lucid dreaming thing. Like, I think it's a cool concept, but I don't like the way they.

execute it. It's just a really boring, dark area. Like, I don't know. It's, and it, I don't know what the rules are there. Are you strong or the bad guy's strong there or not? Because I don't feel like, they know what the rules are. Yeah. I need some, I need some rules laid out because I, I don't understand. Like, it's super dangerous. They'll kill you in there. But like, how? Lynn, Lynn Shea's going to be there for sure. Yeah. And as far as trailer park, we are on the first trailer which is influencers did you see influence in the first one yes is this a sequel yes oh that was that's why i didn't make any sense no i didn't see the first one so okay that was a little lost yeah that's all right i was essentially the first one essentially the first one she

murders a influencer and takes over her life takes over her instagram handle or whatever just with like old photos and stuff or like I don't remember new content it was like nobody noticed that she had like a thing on her face yeah like that's a different person what's going on

I was telling Phil I'm assuming this because it looks like she's on the run in this one trying to hide okay that makes sense she kills quite a few people on the first one is the first one worth it is it worth the watch? Yeah it's

decent it's on shutter which this one's a shutter original also yeah I'll probably I mean if it gets your endorsement I'll probably check out the first one before this one because this one seemed like it was a continuation of something I felt lost so I'm glad to hear that that is what it's not with the cases

and this one is releasing on shutter December 12th and a little light on the horror so I had to pick something else which I got the new Sam Rockwell well, sci-fi, adventure, action, comedy, drama, what IMDB has it, good luck, have fun, don't die. Is that same Rockwell? Yeah.

I had no idea. Homeless man from the future coming to say the world. As soon as he opened his mouth, I knew he was Sam Rockwell. Yeah. Does he dance in this one? Of course. At least in one scene. This looks like a lot of fun

I like the soundtrack The trailer had a lot of energy I like the soundtrack they had in there And I think visually it's gonna be really cool You got him, it looks like he gets a group together That believes him And then weird shit happens At one point it looked like it was a giant deer walking around

I don't know Shit looks crazy Yeah Yeah I don't know what goes on in the future But Well I'll take it Sam Rockwell dude sold.

Absolutely. That looks really good. I was unsure until I heard that part. I don't see a release day. I think this one comes out in February. Okay. Man, I'll watch that one for sure. February 13th in theaters.

Valentine's Day movie. All right. I like it. All right. We'll move on to some more. listener feedback. This week we shine the podcast spotlight on jaunty haunts. Welcome

to jaunty haunts, where we talk all things supernatural. I've been hiding my true self for 30 years, and it's time to come clean. I see ghosts. I like it. All right, in regards to the Buffy reboot, Darrell

Oakley says, of course they bring back Sarah Michelle Geller as a guest to bring in viewers, and then she leaves the show and then she leaves the show will bomb. Reboots don't work without legacy characters.

I don't think she's a guest. The reboot's not out yet, is it? No, I think, early next year. Is she not supposed to be in it at all? Oh, she's in it, but I don't think is more than a cameo. All right. I've never seen one minute of that.

Neither have I, me and my daughter been contemplating. it's got to be so it's got to be so old now i i recently been re-watching game of thrones to go to go to sleep i put on game and throne season one i'm almost to the end but that show it looks old yeah oh my god season one you're like wow i was like what blinders was on like you can see a lot through the scenes a lot um and i just wonder how something like buffy was gonna look All these years later. When that started airing in like 2001, 2002.

I had to have been. Yeah. I've never seen that a scene or anything. I remember that when I was in high school, Christy Swanson's mom was a substitute teacher in rotation. So every time we would get her, she would be like, my daughter was in Buffy and have a whole thing. I'm very familiar with the movie.

Yeah. Not so much the show. yeah yeah i i may have seen a couple episodes you know popular enough to have some spin-offs but it was like the first big c w thing david boreannis was that his name angel yeah i know you're talking about and i don't know if that's his name aka the crow yeah oh geez no he was the bad guy in one of the crow oh okay oh okay played satan when he was going up against Edward Furlong, remember? Terry Reid was in that one. That's right.

Wood Furlong. Yeah. That was a bad movie. Miss that guy. All right. Lee Mitchell O'Donnell says, I'll give it a try as long as Josh Whedon isn't involved. I think he's involved in anything these days. Yeah, but he's laying low.

Ah, shit, man. Our meeting's going to end in 10 minutes. All right. Well, I'll get through listener feedback and then we'll start over. uh all right uh fati uh baltali says uh i'm so excited it's my but my biggest fear is they'll make sarah michelle geller a guest star i hope they don't otherwise the series won't work all right in regards to black phone too uh shana lopez says i'm not sure what's creepier the movie or the fact that they're already working a sequel i don't understand is there another sequel that they're working on or was she talking about the black phone two are they doing part three i don't think so i'm assuming they would

since it opened pretty good yeah did you see did you see part two brian oh you must yeah so so i did it end setting up another sequel i mean i guess the first one didn't really end setting up a sequel I mean, you could just leave it alone Where it ended But I also can see them Doing a third one Which It's highly wood

So Yeah I think it's already made like a hundred million Do you want a horror movie budget? Yeah, they're gonna start cranking those out All right And uh, Shanea Lopez Oh

Uh, in regards to Predator 2 Uh, Rob Cheshire says when Predator actually meant something. Michael Arnaz says classic. We'll see. Wow, those are some of the time you guys watched it. In regards to

Goolies and Critters 3 shows, Zim Vader said a really fun episode. That actually was a lot of fun. Thank you, Zin. In regards to Repo, the Genetic Opera, Fatih Batali says It was one of the best movies I've ever seen

The soundtrack was fantastic Anthony Stewart Head's acting was fantastic I've never finished that movie I think it was the singing Yep, I don't do it The opera part As soon as somebody starts breaking out in the song Turn it off

In regards to the upcoming killer whale movie Helsing 1313 says they already made this in the 70s. It's called Orca, the Killer Whale. Yeah, but when you're talking about movies that could be remade, orca's cool, but it could be remade. It's pretty old.

Free movie, the horror. Nez is screaming somewhere right now. Somebody. No, look, I reviewed it with Nez. I like that movie. I'm just saying in the long list of movies that could be remade. It's like the last Starfighter.

I love that movie, but that could be remade. Easily. Yeah, but I can hear another saying Orca doesn't need to be remade 10 out of 10. I don't know about 10 out of 10. It's pretty good. But I think somebody actually did recut the free willy trailer into a horror trailer. I think that's available. I think so.

Nice. I watched one for Elf as a horror trailer. It's great. In regards to primate, Kuchiki Selah Sim says chimpanzee, Pansy monster physiology. I like it. All right.

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And for $5 more a month, also pick a commentary for a future bonus show. All right. On to our feature attraction. it's Predator Week So we'll start with Predator 2 As aforementioned From 1990

The Predator returns to Earth This time to stake a claim In the war-torn streets Of a dystopian Los Angeles Director is Stephen Hopkins Also known for Nightmare on Elm Street The Dream Child Writers are Jim Thomas

And John Thomas Creators of the Predator character Okay The film uh the filming of the alley scene was very troublesome for the filmmakers due to the rough neighborhood uh the alley was littered with garbage most of which was used in the film and plagued with large rats local residents angered by the noise created by the film crew with thorough bottles and paper bags filled with feces from windows at the crew in the alley below uh worst of all the film crew found a dead

body hidden amongst the garbage oh man the most horrible places i ever had to film were in the alleys of downtown Los Angeles Shane Mahan commented and Predator 2 was shot in a lot of those disgusting alleys there were dirty and depressing and gross with people

peeing on the walls we'd be rigging something and there would be rats there. Ah right awesome first world country guys I'm parted to this movie I know Steve would you like

about Predator 2? Perter 2 is hard because I like all the Predator movies. Even Alien vs. Predator Requiem. I can find things in there. I like, it's a bad movie. And I can recognize that. It's not a good movie.

But I can still find things that I like because I like the property. I like the franchises. I like the characters, the creature designs. And this is no different. I think the creature design is great. The Predator looks really cool. I don't think he, I think he talks too much

maybe a little too uh too many he only says like three things but it's too much like cut cut some candy no shit happens i'm like come on man like and the motherfucker line you're not the motherfucker line you're not the same predator that shouldn't mean anything to you like little things are dropped but then you have gary busey hamming it up fantastic gary busey was great you know who wasn't great danny fucking glover who whispered mumbled and stumbled and stumbled his way through this whole movie it was exhausting Danny Glover is not an action star and it proves it in here he he's like hobbling around he's getting out of the car he's like limping to the back I'm like God damn like he his fight with the predator he I don't know how he manages to not just

get squished immediately yeah it's is a stark drop off from Arnold Schwarzenegger to Danny Glover but they kept the music so that was cool I have fun with this movie I have fun with certain scenes of this movie but I have a real hard time with Danny Glover being the action star and him whispering all of his dialogue but Bill Paxton's there and he's fun

he's great so he makes up for there's peaks and valleys with this one's highs and lows he's so silly in this movie I know but he's been in everything that means he's been in Predator Terminator Alien he's been in all the franchises. It's really, really good. So, yeah, I like it. I know it's not a great movie

because it's not, but I still like it. All right, Brian. I like this one. I had a lot of fun with it. I do agree with you with Danny Glover. He's not an action star, but it worked in Lethal Weapon because he was the complete opposite of Mel Gibson's character. Well, if he had a guy that was better at fighting and stuff that was his partner throughout this than I would see it should have been Bill Paxton Yes Which that guy is hilarious

In the movie get away from my sister Hey you're not my sister And then we have a great opening scene With the gang war And what's his name Doing all the drugs El Scorpio is ready Oh yeah

The the way they depicted Latino characters was pretty fun. I didn't understand Danny Glover's move. He's like, I got this and he like backs the car up, breaks the door off, and then he's like, I'm like, all right, what are we going to do here?

And then he drives towards everybody shooting hanging out of the oak. You're making yourself more of a tar. I don't know how any of this works. This doesn't make any sense. Because he's reckless. They had that scene where they're giving you his report. He's total

11 cop cars. Got all these citations. He's a fucking liability. He needs to be put on a desk job or something. This guy is creating chaos. And he doesn't listen to a single order. He's doing it with zero style. He has

no style. At one point he's walking around with a fedora. I'm like, where the fuck did that come from? But I like all the scenes where the Predators killing off all the different gang members. Oh, yeah. But going back to that first one,

that guy did not feel a thing when he fell, he was so coked up. Oh, yeah. When he fell perfectly on that picnic table that didn't break. It's a sturdy picnic table. But the end is kind of lackluster because it wasn't really much of a fight because all he had to do was just stab the

predator one time with his own weapon. Well, and then I never understand this in movies why this happens, right? Like the predator's like, I'm going to kill you. He's got his claws up. He's going to do the death kill, the death blow. And then Danny Glover pokes him in the tummy with his blade. And he's like, ah, I'm like, just fucking stab him.

Like, if somebody stabbed me, I'd be like, ah! Yeah. This predator's bit of a quitter. Because when he was hanging off the side of the building, he immediately was going to detonate himself. He's going to nuke. He's like, I guess there's no way out of this. But I had fun with the cast, Gary. He only climbs his buildings.

Gary Busey is wacky as hell I used to have a thing when I was a kid for What's her name? Maria Conchita Gunlanzo Oh, okay You see her in a bunch of movies Had a thing for it when I was a kid So a lot of nostalgic stuff there

I like the meat locker scene All that's really cool The Slaughterhouse thing like I like the visuals of it The footage like the visuals of the predator What he sees it's all Gray and like the red red beams of light. That was really cool.

But the Gary Busey death scene defies physics. Yeah, where the top half of them go? It never dropped. It's just because he goes, ah! And then, like, there's a lot of blood and his legs fall. But that's it.

But I still enjoy this one. I have a lot of nostalgic love for it. It's definitely better than The Predator. Oh, yeah. This is way better than The Predator. I like all the predators that show up at the end. Badass with the music. and all that even if the effects are a little wonky with the smoke and all that yeah like all their legs are cut off oh yeah it's really bad superimposition but but it's it's still

one of those nostalgic scenes i saw that shit when i was nine and i didn't notice any of that you know yeah and we got our first easter egg of xenomorphs being in the same universe which we had to wait like over 10 years for that to even happen if nothing else this was just setting up sequel after sequel they were like here's a xenomorph head here's a gun from 1715 what does that mean i don't fucking know yeah i guess some other writers gonna figure it out and then and then he even says to the to the one guy at the end um that's one of those bald ones is that adam baldwin it's one yeah and he's like he tells him he's like he's like you'll get your chance asshole you get you a chance and it's like okay so you're dead we're gonna keep doing this but then

they took forever to get to alien versus predator Was that the next one? Or was it Predators? I think it was 80. I think Let me share it. It was Alien versus Predator was 2004.

Let's say Predators was 2010. That was the one with Adrian Brody. Adrian Brody. Who was also a pretty stark drop-off from Arnold Schwarzenegger. When he took his shirt off, I was like, oh, come on, man. Cut it out.

We're going to need some more steroid stat. We have Arnold over here doing that, and then we got CrossFit guy. Like, it's just the difference, you know? Yeah. Yeah, so I definitely have some nostalgia for this movie. Definitely a drop off from the original Predator, but there's a special. place in my heart for this one. Mostly because I like the,

I like the predator character in this one, right? It sort of seems like he's just hunting in this, like, urban landscape. And he's not like a silly predator. There's no emotions. He's just killing motherfuckers. That's how I watched it. Yeah. Oh, nice.

Got that shot on VHS. Nice. And then I like the predators that come in at the end and they have this like respect moment where they carry the body out. And I was noticing for the first time ever that one of those predators, I'm pretty sure they took the exact design,

helmet design and everything as for one of the predators in the AVP movie. Like the helmet is, they have three very unique helmets in that movie, and I clearly saw one of them here at them. So that's pretty cool. Nice. Yeah.

And I like the running through the apartments and all that stuff. Yeah. LA was definitely a hellscape in this. but do you need the the what is this movie missing you know we need a big older lady in a in a mumu and a hairnet to have a foul mouth that's what we need godown every movie in the 90s had to have it yeah I don't think he gives a shit feels a little more like New York than L.A., but I think it works uh all right this is the problem this is why everyone thinks they're like oh you're from California

Surf's up, bro. You know, we have gang wars. I'm like, oh, God, it's not like that. Apparently it was, well,

they were finding dead bodies and rats in the alleys. Jeez. All right. Scores, what do you think, Steve?

I'm going to go a seven and a half on Predator 2. Okay. It's high on the fun scale for me. And nostalgia goes a long, long way.

And like I already said, I'm a sucker for all things alien and predator. You'll be, hard press. Even Reckman for me, I'd be like hard to go below a five because I like there's a fucking alien predator in there.

That's really cool. That's true. Brian? I'm going to go a little bit higher eight. I thought we, even though I said this predator was a little bit of a quitter, we do get some insight into his character because he doesn't kill pregnant women

or children. Well, yeah, they have to be allegedly. A threat. Oh, no. allegedly I don't know what happened to that kid he was that close to taking out that little kid until he saw that was a plastic gun he was that close he had the

three dots on him and everything well he doesn't know man it's a gun he's coming right for us I'm gonna go I think seven and a half is a is a good score for this one it's it's definitely dated and

and a little silly but uh it's also a predator movie and the predator's badass in this one how like he took like eight point blank shots from danny glover's shotgun like to the chest to the legs and then he stands up and just starts fighting without any we're not going to talk about those bullet wounds at all like it is just a flesh and blood creature by the way you can cut his arm off and you know shit's bad uh there weren't even holes in him he just had like he's not even bleeding later spots of neon blood i thought the bathroom scene was cool though where he was like

making like tile and all kinds of weird shit and mixing it together to make his little that was cool. That actually was kind of cool. I like that one. They bring it up. All right. We'll move on to Predator Badlands, our brand new one.

And hope that our recording will last. A young predator outcast from his clan finds an unlikely ally on his journey in search of the ultimate adversary. Director is Dan Tractenberg, also known for Prey, and the TV series The Boys. Writers Dan Tractenberg with Patrick Aeson, also known for the MMA TV Drama Kingdom. Oh. There is not one human character throughout the film, which is how they got away with the PG-13 rating.

Yes. A Harvester Skull from Independence Day. 1996 is a scene on the Predator's Trophy Wall in the teaser. Oh, I didn't realize that. I mean, they're just made by Fox. Disney owns all that shit. All right. Well, here comes Will Smith, I guess. In the next Predator movie. If Will Smith tried to say, welcome to Earth and punch a predator,

he's going to get his head cut off. It would be great, though. The music in the trailer is performed by Mongolian folk metal band, The Hugh. All right. it's an interesting one Steve what you think about predator badlands

was a little nervous going into this I loved prey and killer of killers and I liked all the trailers for this but I was I was a little worried about deck the main character here is look yeah he looks a little weird he looks a little different from other predators

but as Dan Tractenberg has said like he's like they're a whole ass race like they're coming all shapes sizes different things and you know and different clans and different cultures and this stuff. So I think that that's really cool. They're expanding on that. I read a lot of the negative comments about this movie.

I have absolutely, I share none of those opinions. I loved this movie from beginning until the end. I liked all of the yautchus stuff. I liked the subtitles. I thought Deck grew on me. His look is actually part of the story. And him as a character just grew and grew and grew on me. I love the fact that they basically made

a very Spielberg-feeling adventure film with some gory, gory monsters in it. And I just, I loved it. I just had so much fun. I thought L. Fanning crushed it. There was at one point where L. Fanning's legs were the star of the movie, and that was fucking cool. I liked Bud, the little creature I thought.

That was fucking cool. Baby Yoda? Yeah, I liked it. I thought when he got his organic armor and weapons at the end, fucking awesome like you get the loader back you get little aliens throw a little nod to aliens in there

yeah this movie had everything for me like I can understand why some people might feel negative about this because it is such a jarring jump to almost a different tone and feel of the other predator movies

but I think that's okay nobody's really liked all these predator movies so you know it's okay i think to breed some new life and in going a new direction and if you like those other predator movies they're still there they didn't delete them but i'm excited about this i hope we i hope we get a sequel to this because i had a lot of fun this made a lot of money so this would be my cool of the week it's the highest grossing opening weekend in a for a predator movie in a franchise

well deserved well deserved oh that was cool good story good character arcs deck rules awesome Brian Yeah I had a lot of fun with it The character also grew on me They do explain his look And his size And it's a part of the story

El Fanning I enjoyed her character Basically playing backpack Throughout the movie Um I'd For a second there I did have a problem with it

I thought it was just a little too CG Because at times some people people looked a little animated but most most of everything was c g i think yeah it was a little a little bit much for me because i'm a practical guy but i do appreciate there i believe most even like the creatures were motion capture with actors oh okay so that was a big plus so that kind of It was like, okay, maybe it does have to be CG because you're doing all these different creatures and you're on a different planet with different things. So you can't just do everything practically.

So I kind of got past that. I like the world building, not only for the yautja, I like their, we're actually getting to the name of their race and stuff like that. We're getting to know their culture and stuff like that. also world building connecting us with the alien franchise with the Whalen Utani company involved in this and I like the action in it and yeah bud was pretty cool so I enjoyed it for the most part high on the fun scale story you know it's fine it's it's nothing you haven't seen before it's it's kind of run some tropes that are normalized it's basically a coming of age story for dead yeah but the fun scale but it's like have you seen it before sure but you've never seen

it done with a predator so like it's fucking cool to me well and i think without without without it actually being a predator movie i don't think anybody would have really had a problem with it because it was a lot of fun yeah this is a marvel movie yeah you put anybody you put anything else instead of a predator there is a marvel movie and it it definitely was a big change in tone uh But I did have a lot of fun with it. I half-ass think that all of the explanation of deck looking so terrible was an excuse for deck looking so terrible. He's younger and also a run.

Yeah. Not as well defined. I do think it's weird. Like his crest on his head is not even fully formed yet. Yeah. But I'm like, do you just, I guess I don't know. I don't know anything about their physical. maybe they just keep fucking changing

maybe their heads get really big when they're really old I mean that makes sense because he didn't even really look like his brother that we got introduced to in the beginning of the movie and he looked more like a classical like what you'd expect to see regular predator and I like that too like there's

they're kind of like Spartans you know they call the herd they get their weak and they're young when they're young but I guess when they were little little Dex saved his brother, whose name is Quay, saved them from, like, I guess I play with exploding toys or some shit. And ever since then, Quay's been looking out for his little brother.

And I just think that there's, like, this, it's just cool. I'm like, yeah, they're scary monster aliens that come here and hurt and shit. But, like, they also have brothers and fucking daddy issues. Yeah. You know, I don't know. Maybe for some people, they're like, see, this is what I don't like. And I'm like, ah. It's like the Star Trek version of the Predator.

People can't really say this is not what has been going on the whole time because we never got their planet or their culture or how they interact with one another. We always got the warrior hunting all the time. Yeah, we got a little bit of it in Killer of Killers. And what Dan Tractenberg is doing is he's digging deep into the archives of Dark Horse comics, which have been telling predator stories for decades. So that yautcha and Yautja Prime and all that shit. the comic books so he's pulling from that which plenty to pull from yeah uh but yeah man i i liked it i had a pretty good time a little buddy comedy i thought uh elf fanning was a little sillier than i expected her to be um but it sort of worked even though she like yeah that's true

even though she like never shut the fuck up for a second it worked And I like his little, little bud that popped up. I didn't exactly see it coming until it was obvious, but I liked it. Well, as soon as the big-ass monster puts his face down, I was like, son of a bitch. Yeah. All right. Well, let's go, let's go spoilers. Steve, what's your score on the?

Oh, score. So if I was rating this on The Geeks, it would be a hero. So fuck it, I'm going to go. nine and a half on ten we'll go nine and a half on ten oh nine and a half because I kind of would have liked a little bit more of the we got like the five little things that

tried to kill him and then he used those five things in his armor and that was cool but like yeah maybe a little bit more more a little bit less time maybe in the dark fighting your brother and a little bit more time on the planet oh yeah I guess that would work Brian what do you think

I'm at an eight I had a lot of fun with it I liked the world building and I'm excited to see where Dan Tractonburg takes this because it seems like just interviews I heard him talking about stuff. He has like this universe kind of mapped out because originally he was

going to have the character from Prey in this one but he held back because he has like a bigger plan for her in a different movie. I'm going to go eight also. I think I had a lot more fun. I It's not what I expected, but maybe it's the predator that we needed.

I had a lot of fun with it. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. It was definitely worth watching.

I couldn't believe he got that little acid snake to work on his shoulder like a fucking shoulder can in the way he did. I was shocked. I was like, there's no way that's going to work. Oh, my God, it works. Yeah. They cast one actor to play all those male androids and that guy got killed so many times in so many different ways. I thought that was awesome. You know, when El Fanning's bottom half is running around breaking people's necks.

Yeah, that was pretty cool. Why so many things explode on this planet? Oh, I know. What about that taradactal dragon thing that was like dropping the rocks trying to get the, the plants to explode. I thought that was really cool. Yeah. And then when El Fanning was in the Prometheus machine

trying to put herself back together and, like, the deck was fighting the monster outside and then all of a sudden he comes crashing in and breaks her in half again when she was almost done. Yeah. Come on. There's a lot of humor, like silly, dumb humor like that. But I love it.

Well, that's the Marvel movie thing. They had a joke every 10 minutes. I did expect a bigger fight with his father at the end. yeah that's yeah uh i don't know i mean i don't know how long it could have gone on it was a pretty good fight i loved when a deck hit the button on his on his wrist guard that's made the ship put out all that dust so he could see his dad in the cloak i thought that was just it was a good i thought it was a good fight and did we get to see his mother or is she just she's in the ship okay

I thought I maybe the next one I thought I maybe missed something and I thought it was bud got big it'll be a TV series

I'm sure I'll take it I'll take the sequel to this the same way they animated killer killers I don't care just don't make me wait

another eight years you know yeah for the sequel so but Dane Tractor has been pretty good we've gotten

three predator movies in three years so oh yeah I guess it includes the animated one and they said they are doing an alien versus predator but the only thing he said is not going to be like

anyone we've seen so far so it'll resemble an actual film with good story and characters yes that's cool I could go with that hopefully you know that's more directed at Requiem

again with with Avi The AP, the first one, that's one of those soft spots, you know? It's like, I know the Power Rangers movie from 95 isn't very good either, but I can still watch it and look it. You know, I like that AVP movie. I hadn't seen it since it came out. I'll have to watch it again.

There's that one alien that gets the net on him, and it starts to, like, close, and then the acid blood breaks it, and then for the rest of the movie's got this cool. Oh, yeah. Like, Scar look on his head. It's a cool movie. I mean, the humans are all really stupid. but that's kind of part for the course

I remember that one but yeah man a lot more fun with this one than I expect I like Bud I thought he was a pretty cool little character I mean silly for a predator movie but but if it wasn't for him Decc and Thea dead doubt

that tree octopus thing was going to eat had already eaten them yeah that's true the tree bug thing yeah and then Bud went in there and broke its tooth very cool and that blade grass see like you just keep talking about that sharp grass stuff that was really cool too there's lots and lots to like here I mean they did did call like what they call a death planet mm-hmm shit even when he was like breaking through the atmosphere and he had to

like pull the eject seat and he was in his little fucking scooter with a bubble you know like all this that was really cool yeah that's one thing the predator franchise even even if you don't like some of the movies they never disappoint on the the technology of the predator yeah all the advanced technology and he's wearing a loincloth so did he he launched himself out in the ejector seat in the scooter and then but at one point like tessa went and got into his ship so that must have just crashed onto the planet and been fine so why did he eject not supposed to think about that part okay that's why it's a 9.5 yeah yeah and i like the uh i definitely like the mask at the end i thought that was cool it took me

a minute to figure out what the hell that was but uh it was pretty awesome i didn't like that like once you're like all right now the big monster's on their team they're a big family this is great they're going to kill everybody and then they killed the big monster i was like that is like the saddest thing yeah you killed the big and they were over it so quickly yeah they were I'm like, it's Bud's mom. You guys know this. We just discovered this information. And they're just like, all right, well, I guess we're out of here.

Like, what the fuck? Headed off the planet. I guess Bud's not going to keep peace on that planet anymore. Elle Fanning deserves, you know, a lot of accolates for this. She played two roles. She played the good, bubbly sister robot. And then she played the evil, dark one with that warm black eye. That was really cool.

And they were two very different characters. good job she did a good job yeah I both the fanning sisters are kind of great actresses so I think they can make it work hadn't been in much hadn't been in much lately with the watchers on her yeah oh yeah that's true the other one was okay at best the box in her she's covered in fake tattoos that one yeah okay well maybe I never understood when actors were like for this role I need all these fake tattoos it's like but it doesn't really add anything to the story. It's just like

getting covered fake thumb up, you know. Steve, I know you've seen God is a bullet. Yes. Jamie Fox's Alopecia. Listen.

Or whatever. That didn't mean. Nothing to do with his character. What bothered me more about that was the fact that they sat there and they said that they were going to blow out Jamie Lannister's whole body and tattoos and they did it in like an afternoon.

And I'm talking thick from. neck, all arms, all chest, all back, blown out by one guy with one shitty tattoo machine in like a warehouse. I couldn't believe it. And the way he walked away from that, I'm like, bro, you would not be walking away from that, dude. I just can't believe this shit.

But still, despite those, that was a good movie. I just don't like that movie. All right, so I guess we'll recommend the new Predator movie. Guys, check it out. Hell yeah. Badlands. All right. Well, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns.

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