The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #5: The Purge (2013), The Purge: Anarchy (2014) & The Purge: Election Year (2016) (Reupload)

Episode Date: April 13, 2021

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Greetings, listeners. You have found the horror returns. For all of you who delight in dread, fantasize about fear and glorify gore, welcome home. This is the podcast that proves that the horror never ends. Each episode, we seek out and review a brand new horror movie or book. Then we go back and find a classic work with similar themes. We're looking at both similarities and differences. Our goal is to explore how our perceptions of fear remain the same from generation to generation, but also to point out how the presentation can change based on the social and political climate of the times.

Although we always do our best to avoid spoiling the new release, sometimes it may be necessary to talk about certain details in the course of our conversation. We generally assume you guys have already seen the classic film, so there will often be spoilers when we're discussing anything that has been out for at least one year. The other thing we may do from time to time is use a few four-letter words. this is a horror podcast and horror movies tend to be R-rated. So you guys can pretty much expect us to be too. I'm Lance and with me as always are my co-host Brian and Philip.

What up? So we'll start out with a discussion of some of the highlights of what we've checked out this week. Philip, you seen anything that really stood out for you? Dory. I saw that one. I got kids, man. What do you want me to do? Hey, and it was actually a really good movie, you know?

I think it was better than finding Nemo. Really? Yeah. No, I was really impressed. Brian, you've got a pretty young daughter, right? Yeah. You check this one out yet? Not yet.

We're planning on probably tomorrow. Oh, it's good, dude. You'll like it. I heard it pretty much was the same movie as the first one. Yeah, I mean, I guess it kind of is. But it's, it was, I had some, uh, some welling up stuff going on a couple of spots. I was like, oh. Okay.

Got a little emotional, huh? Yeah. That's a good, good Pixar movie. We'll always do that. Hey, it was, it was worth it. It was worth watching. Not exactly horror, but what are you going to do? Anything else?

Um, man, not that I can think of right offhand. But I may bring it up later. as that happens. Well, I got to ask both of you guys something. We were talking about a penultimate episode of a certain show last week. Oh, yeah. Do you guys, you guys catch the finale? Oh, yeah. That was pretty kick-ass. Game of Thrones, man. Can't go wrong with that. Few things I didn't see coming in that one. Yeah. I didn't think it was as epic as the as the, the, the, the battle of the bastards. Yeah, I thought that was probably one of the best hours in TV history. But, man, there were a lot of, a lot of stuff happened, you know. And I thought it was

well worth it to be a finale. And I'm super excited about what's coming up. Way to go John Snow, man. That guy's going to have some special powers. Yeah, it was quite a few deaths there. I wasn't expecting. Yeah, a whole lot of deaths in one scene, they took out a lot of problems at once didn't the lannisters took out a lot of problems at once didn't they yeah i definitely wasn't what's the king's name uh surcy's son yeah i didn't i didn't see that coming yeah he jumped out the window he was like oh fuck this i'm done yeah i didn't either but that guy was weak man you knew he wasn't going to be king for a whole lot longer well it was prophecy remember yeah well now sercy's there right and do you feel that's why because i kind of felt like she was kind of cold

towards him being dead like she didn't really feel anything towards you think that's because she felt he was weak? I think that she's pissed off about it. I think that it's because I mean she sent the mountain up there to protect him to keep him there. Yeah to stop him from going

to this stupid religious fanatic thing. You know what I mean? And I'm really disappointed that the queen died. Oh yeah, she's hot. Yeah, she was awesome, man. Yeah, always like, She's smart.

She's smart. Yeah. She's actually a marathon runner. Did you guys know that? Yeah, she's just super cool, man. She's super hot. She's super cool. But anyway, aside from that, though, like, yeah, I think that she actually, her kids mean a whole

lot to her. Family obviously means a little more to her than it probably should. But, yeah, I think that she was, she's, she looks cold because she's pissed off. And I think that any emotion that she had about anything is gone now. And she's about to rain. hell down upon a lot of people. Yeah, I think a lot of people were really underestimating

her. Yeah. Now they've got did you catch who John Snow's father is? In the flashback? Yeah. Did you catch that, Brian? No, I kind of missed that one. Okay, they didn't come right out and say it, but is Ned Stark's sister's son. So not Ned Stark's bastard.

Yeah, I got that part. His sister ran off. with a Targaryen. So, Hmm. There you go. DeNaris' older brother. Right.

So not only is John Snow a Stark, but he's also a Targaryen. Which a lot of people had pretty much figured that one out, what, a season or two back? Yeah, so, well, and I had heard that fan theory before, and it actually sounded like it made sense.

Made sense, sure. Yeah, and, and now they confirmed it. And, uh, man. he's yeah that guy's about to like him and denarius i don't know who's who's more powerful at this point but they are the two lead people and i heard this next season is supposed to be the last season i heard a little bit different i heard that uh it was going to be like two

two more season but they were going to be shortened oh yeah well i heard that's the most recent rumor of her episodes 13 more episodes total 13 more episodes total yeah i heard yeah that's what i heard but I heard it was going to be split into two seasons. Oh, maybe it will. But they said the episodes are going to be a little bit longer than usual. Oh, that'd be nice. I'll watch that.

So they're kind of going the Sons of Anarchy round, huh? Pretty much. Well, yeah, because an hour in Game of Thrones world, I mean, there's so many characters that you can only get so much junk shoved into one hour. And that's why I think a lot of them end up being slow is because there's so many characters and so many stories. So do you guys think that the new book will be out before the next? season? No. If the dude doesn't die first, I mean, shit. You said that pretty definitively, Ryan. You know, you know something we don't? No, I just, if it hasn't come out by now,

I don't, I don't know. I don't know what's, what's the hold up? Well, they got until, what does it come out? Usually March or April or some shit? Yeah, it seems like every year it gets pushed back a little bit. Seems like, first it was early March. Ever. There's always a whole eight months of TV that I just don't even watch. Well, Brian, uh, did you? Did you check anything else out besides that? Just catching up on some shows, still watching Preacher. It's starting to get a little slow. Yeah, I started to watch that last episode,

and I had people running around all over the place, so I couldn't really pay a whole lot of attention to it, and I kind of just gave up on it and hadn't turned it back on. Yeah, I'm going to finish out the season, but if it continues like this, I don't know, I'm going to stick stick around for season two. Oh man, I hate hearing that man

because I've still only seen the first episode. Yeah, because I'll definitely watch it. I mean, I'm still trying to keep up. And I mean, I'm already invested enough into it to watch the whole season. But yeah, you're right. It's starting to get a little slower than I wanted it to be.

I wanted to be a lot more kick-ass than it is. Yeah, I agree. Still watching Outcast. Outcast is pretty good. Checked out another show. you and me, Lance, we talked about it off-mic, I think, last week. Dead of summer? Yep.

What do you think? I'm going to give it a couple more episodes. Oh, shit. You sounded like Kanye there for me. I'm a look at. I like the whole, it's set in the 80s. I like, you know, I like a lot of stuff from the 80s. You get that kind of Friday to 13th Camp Crystal Lake vibe from it.

but it seems like it it's a show that should be on mTV for like teenagers it kind of it kind of comes off like that thanks for let me know dude i'll avoid it gossip girl i'm gonna give it a couple more episodes though it is on the channel previously known as abc family oh which was previously known as fox family which was previously known as the family channel okay that explains it then that explains all those uh oh no that was tlc was it TLC has like every freaking there's every single show they had

had somebody arrested for some sort of like child molestation charge or some bullshit like that the Duggers remember the whole where they had a whole bunch of kids and shit you didn't hear about that? No. Yeah I heard about it. I don't get too much about it but yeah

some sort of child molestation thing and there's all holy rollers you know. Yeah I'm gonna give it a couple more episodes. It does have Tony Todd. You guys know Tony Todd? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, the Candy Man. Yeah, he's in the show. Candyman. Yeah.

Andy Man. Tony Todd has been in... I mean, I haven't seen... He's another one of those, like we were talking about Stormair last week. I don't think I've seen him in anything that I didn't completely love watching him. Yeah. He plays Kern and Star Trek the next generation, Warf's

brother. Oh. Oh. And kind of a recurring role. I think he He's probably showed up in seven or eight episodes of that in Deep Space Nine. So, yeah, anything he does is great. He was at the convention here in Texas that I just barely missed this year that I really wanted to go to the horror convention that they have in Dallas every year. Oh. It's called Texas Frightmare Weekend.

And out of everyone, I was most interested in actually meeting him, but unfortunately, he didn't make it this time. You check on anything, Lance? just the just the Game of Thrones finale really and then these movies I've been reading quite a bit of the the book that we're going to talk about in the next show but I'll bring that up then all right so on that note

as with every show it's time to take a little trip to the trailer part we take a look at the big the small and sometimes the very very weird Brian what's our first new trailer to talk about this week first one we're going to talk about is the girl with all the gifts. That looked pretty interesting. I'm on board on this one.

It's a new twist on the whole zombie outbreak type movie. Yeah, what was it, Philip, that you said? You said it looked like if there really were a realistic zombie outbreak, it'd probably look a lot more like that. Well, yeah, because I feel like if, like, realistically, if there was going to be a zombie outbreak for all the preppers out there,

it would probably be a military. Terry experiment gone wrong, and that's sort of what this looks like. I'm down with it. I mean, it's hard to tell from the preview, you know, but it looks interesting and something different, you know? Definitely. It just, the whole thing with the kids in the beginning of the trailer, where they're all in the chair, strapped in.

Right. I didn't know what ticks back, man. Yeah. Yeah, just kind of, I didn't, I've never heard of this movie. I'd seen the trailer on YouTube, and I just hit play. I didn't know this was that type of movie. Cool. Kids in a horror movie.

Always creepy. So I think, definitely checking this one out. This one, uh, supposed to be out September 23rd. Like in the theaters? Because it doesn't look like a widespread release kind of thing.

It didn't really say if it was going to be a limited release or a wide. Right. Because it's like a British movie or something, huh? Yeah. Oh, I'll watch it. Makes you wonder if, uh, Killian Murphy's going to show up at some point, huh?

have some kind of a crossover. Yeah. Did you guys get a 28 days later kind of vibe from this movie? Yeah, a little. Yeah, that makes sense. If I was going to compare it to something, it would be that, but with kids. Right. Like how 28 days later started.

You think it's in that same universe, Brian? No, it just gave me that kind of vibe. Okay. Are you sure it's not? I mean, do you know anything about, you know, who the filmmakers are? I think I did see actually somewhere that it is based on a book or a novel of some sort. Yeah, I don't think so, because they're supposedly still working on the third movie in that franchise. So I don't think this is in the same universe.

Let me guess 28 years later. Who knows? Hey, it might be. It would actually make sense, you know? Yeah, no, I like that. And going ahead and moving on to our next one is a new show on. HBO Westworld. Oh man, I can't wait for this one.

Yeah, that one looks kind of cool. Oh, man, I have not been this excited for a TV show from just watching the trailer. Wait, wait, wait. That's the one with Winona Ryder, right? No, you're thinking of Stranger Things. Oh, not bad. Okay, okay.

Yeah, this, Anthony Hopkins. Oh, right. Okay, man. Along with many other people that I'm sure you've noticed from quite a few other films. It does look really good from the trailer. We watched each of them in a row, so I get confused. Yeah, that looked really, really amazing. Brian, are you familiar with the original film?

I've seen it once. It's been a while. Yeah, Ewell Brenner, I guess, was the main android cowboy that kind of went crazy and started hunting everybody down. Yeah. Yeah, this is, looks like Wild West, but science fiction. Yeah, isn't the whole premise that it's kind of like a, kind of a theme park or something?

Oh. The whole West thing? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's kind of like, I guess, comparable to Disney World, but it's sort of like in the, quote, unquote, not too distant future. Really? They didn't really mention that in the preview. That's cool.

Well, I have the, I'm lucky enough to be old enough to remember the original film pretty well. Oh, I got you. See, yeah, I didn't even know it was the original film. I've never seen it. Yeah, the basic premise is that it's kind of like a combination between, the holodeck and like a Disney World theme where you have the animatronics, but they're, you know, as you can tell from the trailer, they seem to be becoming self-aware. Amatronics gone wrong is a classic thing.

Definitely. I was at Chuckie Cheese today and my son is scared to death of that dude. Well, you could speak to that, man. So since you were at Chuckie Cheese today, Philip, we want to hear what your impressions of this West World trailer are. Is it something you're going to watch? Yeah, I mean, I didn't realize that's what it was. They don't really explain it in the preview or in the trailer.

But yeah, it looked very interesting, and HBO's coming out with some really amazing stuff lately, so I'll totally watch it. Actually, originally based on a novel by Michael Crichton, you guys are familiar with him? Oh, a little bit. Jurassic Park? Yes. Congo. Congo? Yeah, that's right.

The Terminal Man, the Great Train Robbery. Yeah, I'll totally watch that. And JJ Abrams involved in this show, too. Yeah, I saw that. So, yeah, I can't go wrong with him. Yeah, Abrams' involvement can't be a bad thing ever, you know? Yeah, I agree. But I did notice that this guy, Ben Barnes,

looked like he was like one of the main characters. He looked really familiar. Brian, do you know anything about him or other things he's been in? No, not really. Yeah, it looks like he's been in a lot of children's movies or young adult, But he was in the Chronicles of Narnia films as Prince Caspian. I've never watched those movies. He was Dorian Gray in an adaptation of that.

I'm assuming he's a British actor. It says that his mother is from South Africa and is of Jewish heritage. His father is English. Well, that's a weird white mix there. He definitely stuck at as someone I wrote. remembered seeing him in a couple of good roles before. Oh, and this is one with Cyclops.

Yeah, that's right. James Marsden. You pointed that out when we were watching it. He's kind of hit or miss for me, but I didn't recognize the main cowboy. They call him the Man in Black here, it looks like. It was actually Ed Harris. Did you guys notice that? Yes. So it sounds like a

great cast. Yeah. Yeah, this one should be out in October. Big I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, that's right when the regular Walking Dead will be starting up again, huh? Oh, nice. I'm stoked about that. October's my favorite time of year, guys.

What about y'all? That definitely. Halloween's my favorite holiday. So let's see, you got Renaissance Festival, you got Halloween, you got all the kick-ass shows that are getting started. Well, Renaissance Festival was exclusive to Houston because it's different times a year around different parts of the country. Ah, okay, that makes sense. And moving on to our final trailer is Range 15. Oh, yeah.

Oh, okay. I'm really excited about this movie, man. I've heard amazing things. It's a movie made by veterans for veterans. And so it's got a lot of military jargon and stuff like that and comedy that I think vets are going to get a whole lot of. And, man, I'm really. I'm really stoked about this one. I really, really want to see it.

I hate that it's limited release right now because I would go to the theater and watch this in a heartbeat. Hey, Philip, what's your, tell us all about your background a little bit, how you can relate to that, man. What did you serve in? What was your background in the military? Oh, well, I'm not going to say I'm a hard charging dude or anything, but yeah, I'm an army that I was refilling helicopters in Afghanistan and Pakistan. When that big earthquake happened in Pakistan and they had all that damage and stuff, we went over there and did some humanitarian missions and flew all that and then spent the rest of the year in Afghanistan. So it kind of hits close to home with me.

And a lot of, like, I have two brother-in-laws that, you know, we're in Iraq and Korea. I'm excited about it, you know. It's close to home. What do you think, Brian? Oh, I'm all in on this movie. This movie looks like it could get real crazy. Yeah. And Marcus, I hate myself for not remembering his last name right now.

Well, let me put it to you this way. For me, guys, you had me at Keith David. Oh, yep. And then when I saw the Shad in there, too. Oh, don't forget, Danny Trail. Danny Trail. That's right. I didn't even notice him until you pointed that out, man.

Marcus Ttrell. That's his name. The guy from Lone Survivor. He is like the actual guy. You mean the actor that was in the movie? No, no, no. Well, the actor that was in the movie was Mark Wahlberg. The actual guy is Marcus LaTrell.

He lives not far from here. Really? And he is in the movie. And I mean, he gets killed off in the preview. So I guess I'm not giving too much away. But it looks awesome. And that is so super cool. I've heard a thousand interviews.

with him and he's super down to earth and he's an awesome guy. There is quite a few MMA fighters in this movie too. Yeah, I saw that. Randy Couture and Brendan Schaub and a few other people.

Tim Kennedy. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm all in on this movie. Yeah, I want to see it as soon as possible. The second I get my hands on a copy, I'm watching it. So guys, it sounds like the only question remaining here is which show do we fit this one into?

Hmm. Plus, I already looked at a... Is it on iTunes? That's my first question. Well, I doubt it. I probably, I already looked at the Rotten Tomatoes score of it, and it's like a 95%. Oh, come on. 95%. And from a spoof zombie movie, which is kind of what it looks like, like horror comedy, that's insane. You don't get that from me.

You're making this up. 95%. Are you serious? Now, that's just from my random recall. but it's probably more than that. Wow, dude, I'll tell you what, for a movie of this type, if it's at like 95%, that's probably unheard of. I would imagine that would be unprecedented.

Yeah, I imagine it's probably going to be up for some awards at the end of the year. Man, I'll tell you what, I know I was watching. It just looked like a hell of a lot of fun. You know, if it really was that high on rotten tomatoes, Phillip, man, I'd be interested to know about that. We're looking it up right now. What do you, what do you think, man? Where's it at?

Oh, there it is. Oh, bam, 96%. 96%. Wow. Holy shit. Yeah, we definitely got to review this one. Oh, wow. All right.

So we're chalking this one up. I'm going to see if it's available on anything that I have access to, which in my case is primarily iTunes for the most part. Totally inappropriate and will make a college campus melt looking for a good enough safe space. If you're sick of military humor, it is great. Or if you like sick military humor, it's great. Well, if you're a vegan feminist battling the misogynistic rape culture of places like the University of California, Berkeley, stick to your Starbucks.

I'm all sold on this movie. I like it. Unbelievable, man. Politically incorrect at its greatest. All right, cool. All right. Well, sounds like we got a fit. this one in guys one of the one of the next couple of weeks here uh and that is all the trailers we

have for this week okay the first thing we are going to talk about is uh ash versus evil dead season two is currently filming all right looking forward to it i can't believe i haven't seen it yet oh you haven't seen it at all man i haven't seen it at all and i love the evil dead series i love oh you will definitely i think you will definitely love uh this show i have to watch it yeah i really enjoyed it. One of my favorite parts of it was Lucy Lawless. Does she come back this year? What? Yeah, she's coming back.

And is there anyone new coming up or anything like that? It hasn't really said, other than it just started, they just started filming and supposed to be, season two is supposed to debut sometime this fall. He was in Zena, right?

I think he had like a little recurring character. He was the Jack of All Trades. In Zena and Hercules. I used to love those, man. They're cheesy, but they're awesome. But yeah, it's a great show. It's more, um, more of the comedic part of the Evil Dead series. Right.

But they do kind of not mention, uh, Army of Darkness. And I think it has something to do with like some legal issues. Oh. Well, that sucks. Yeah. I never really noticed it, though. I mean, it didn't cause me to dislike the show or anything. And Army of Darkness was a little.

a little more campy in comedy than the first two, I think. Yeah, I think it had to do with, I think another studio was involved in that one. Okay, makes sense. So I don't think they'll probably ever mention Army of Darkness. Right. Whatever, man. That dude is awesome. I will watch Ash in anything.

Yeah, it's great. And that's his official name. I don't even know what his real name is. Bruce Campbell. Yeah, there you go. I knew if I heard it, but his name is Ash to me. Yeah, Brian, what do you think about the 30-minute format? That made it real easy to get through them, didn't it?

Yes, definitely. That's cool. So anybody who wants to check out the show, you can just go through the whole season real quick. Is it on Netflix? Not yet, I don't think. What channel is it on? I believe it's Showtime.

Oh, okay. No, I think it's actually Stars. Is it Starz? Yeah, you're right, Stars. I'm pretty sure it's a Stars original. Whatever. You're fine it. You're right.

It's Stars. so definitely check that one out. Yeah, cool. Okay, our next news item is Pacific Rim 2 has a release date for February 23rd, 2018. Well, I'm one of the few who liked the first one. What about you guys? Oh, I love the first one. Man, I don't think that it was good enough for a sequel.

Like, I enjoyed it. It was worth watching, but it's another one of those that, you know, it was fun to watch, but I didn't expect it to be, you know, have another one. You didn't think it was that good? No, I didn't think it was that good. I don't think it made as much money as they were expecting either, right? No, I doubt that it did. It wasn't as big as I think. I mean, I understand it did really, really well overseas, but the U.S. box office was disappointing.

Yeah, they're putting a lot more into this one, because we had talked about before John Boyega was involved, was cast as the lead. They're going after Scott Eastwood now. Oh wow, he's pretty big right now Yeah, but I'm not hearing anything about Charlie Hunnam being in this movie It's probably just as well Yeah Well, you know, it had that whole big Like Gundam type of

Japanese animation sort of deal, you know So I imagine it's probably a lot bigger elsewhere than it is here, you know I mean, they've got their fan base in this area But I'm sure it's not as big as they would like it to be Yeah, the only thing that kind of worries me is Guillermo del Toro's not directing this one. Oh, I didn't even realize, oh, I guess he was directing that last one. That's why Charlie Hunnam didn't do 50 Shades of Gray.

Oh, that's right. That's right. Because he was already committed to this movie. So, yeah, that's got me a little bothered right there. I'll tell you one thing. Hunnam not being in 50 Shades of Grey had my wife pretty bothered, had her pissed off as a matter of fact. you know what my my wife really liked him until she heard him speak his actual uh what accent that that she was she was over him she didn't like his british accent she liked the jack's uh bad boy accent she's one of the three she thought i was lying when i when i said he was british and uh what was it the final season of uh sons right when they were doing like the the after show

Okay. And he was on there and he started talking and she was just kind of like, what the fuck is going on? I was like, no, that's his real voice. That's what he sounds like. This breaks her out a little bit. So, yeah, I don't mind him not being in the movie. Right. I like the dude, but yeah, I mean, I don't know.

So is, I wasn't that dedicated to the first one. So I'll watch the second one. We'll see who's in it. Is it, is it, uh, is it, uh, is it, uh, Elba in this one? You know, I'm hearing that John Boyega is supposed to be his son. Oh, boy. I don't know if we get, like, I don't know if we get flashbacks or something.

Okay. Like in the past day? Right. I haven't heard. I haven't heard about him being casted in a movie, though. Gotcha. So. So this is like the next generation type story.

Pretty much. When you can't bring any of the actors back for, what you can afford to pay them. You always go the next generation story route. Well, but it's not like it was big enough the first time to really tank it this time if it doesn't do that. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like an Independence Day when, you know, Will Smith doesn't sign up for this one. I'm like, ah, yeah.

That's about enough of that. I mean, the dude's still alive and he's definitely able to be in the movie. So if he's not there, I'm not super stoked about it. But in this one, it wasn't big. enough the first time, I think that they can do a better job on the second one. And it's very possible. Yeah, don't get me wrong. I'll be there.

I'll be there on opening day, no doubt. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love the effects on the first one. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, maybe I'm just simple, but, you know, giant robots fighting giant monsters, you know, I'm there. Hard to go wrong.

Godzilla style, man. And our final news item here, Lance, maybe you could shed a little bit of light on this. I'm not too familiar with the book. They've started filming the Dark Tower. Yes, absolutely. So are they starting with the Gunslinger? My understanding is they're going one book after that? I'm not sure.

They've just released pictures online of Matthew McConaughey as the Man in Black, but they've also released pictures of Idris Alba as the Gunslinger. Gotcha. It's got a good cast already. I have no idea about any of it, but it sounds cool. Also, Jackie Earl Haley was cast in the movie, too. I didn't like him as Freddy, but I liked him and just bet everything else he's been in. Oh, is he the guy from Watchman?

He is. He is from the Watchman. Yeah, he's a creepy little guy. So, yeah, I'm not familiar with the book, so... Yeah, I'm very familiar with the series. It's actually, and it's kind of interesting that they decided, if they did, from the rumor I heard that they're going to skip the first book, which I think makes a lot of sense, because the first book was just really surreal, and it really was just kind of, and I always thought while I was reading it was kind of a one-off. It was definitely trippy, and it was something that

you really, when you were reading, you got into it. It had a lot of weird metaphysical stuff in it, and it wasn't really just a straight-on novel. I thought it was kind of almost more like philosophical ramblings and things like that with a central character. But yeah, when you get to the next book after that and then all the way through the end, if they're going to do it sequentially where they do, you know, each film matches up with a book, it should be really good. And they've obviously got a great cast. And these are some guys that can be around for years to come to, you know, to fill out all the stories.

Kind of like Harry Potter, the film series, if they can keep everyone the same, I think it could be a masterpiece. We're getting this movie pretty quickly from what I understand. be coming out of February 17th. Wow. So of next year? Yes. What's it called? The Dark Tower.

Dark Tower. So are they calling it the drawing of the three? Are they just calling it the Dark Tower? Or do you know yet? I don't know. I haven't heard. And is Ron Howard involved? I heard it one time he was supposed to be involved, but might have dropped out.

I'm not sure. I can check that right now. Well, you guys have got me a little bit excited about it. I've never heard of it before. Yeah, it's a really cool. series, man. Never read the books either. I don't know. Yeah, I've heard of it because I know they've been trying to make this movie for a long time. But I love Matthew McConaughey. Yes. And Idris Alba. I mean, like, the first two names you mentioned, I was like, oh, all right, I'm down. Yeah, Ron Howard's, he's one of the producers. One of the producers. Okay. It looks like the director is a guy named Nicolage Arsel. I don't think he's an American director. But it looks like,

like he might have been the one who had been involved in the original girl with the dragon tattoo. It looks like he's primarily a writer. And let's see what director credits he has here. You know, I never saw that movie. Wow, a whole lot of stuff that I have never seen. This could be interesting. Well, but that may not be a bad thing. It may not be a bad thing at all. I'm thinking the same thing you are. Sometimes you're new guys that are really kick ass. Not necessarily new, but, you know, I mean, unheard of people. Yeah, I mean, this is definitely. Definitely what I'm looking forward to. I certainly hope that they do the entire book series.

I hope they don't just make it, you know, like two or three movies. Yeah, I'm definitely intrigued, especially with this cast. Cool. Well, oh, I certainly like what I see here. Catherine Winick, you guys heard of her? No. This is the main actress from the TV show and the History Channel Vikings. Okay.

Man, she is, she'll satisfy your longing for Queen Marjorie, man. You're missing out on the hot chick there. Just from looking at the picture, she's pretty amazing. I'm not even really a big blonde guy, but she's very pretty. Nor am I. Nor am I, but she does something for me, man.

Maybe it's just because of her Vikings' character she's so fucking cold-blooded and badass. I haven't seen Vikings. That may have a lot to do with it. Oh, you guys are missing out. That's a great show. I've heard. I need to watch it. Not sure if it's totally historically accurate. What are you supposed to do, man? It's not There's a whole lot of Viking records.

They may very well have discovered America, and there's no record of that, you know? Good point. And that is all the news we have this week. Cool. All right. Well, so now it's time for tonight's featured attractions. And we're going to review and discuss all three purge movies, including the brand-new election year. So, as always, we'll start out with some trivia.

We're going to begin with the purge election year, which came out this week. The director is James DeMonico. He also wrote the script, not only for this one, but for all three Purge films. He is also known for writing the script for the Kevin Spacey Samuel L. Jackson film The Negotiator, as well as Skinwalkers. Also, the remake of Assault on Precinct 13, and numerous episodes of The Crash and also the Kill Point TV shows. This movie takes place two years after the events of the Purge Anarchy. Edwin Hodge is the only actor to have appeared in all three Purge installments. Carmen Ijogo was asked if she wanted to reprise her role as Eva Sanchez from the Purge Anarchy,

which I haven't seen, so you guys are going to have to fill me in on that when we're covering it, but said no because she wanted to move on to other things. So that's the trivia. Brian, I think you've seen this movie most recently of the three of us. What did you think? Um, I just might be my favorite one out of all of them. Yeah? Yeah.

And I'm going to say this. I'm not going to, we're not, we don't get into spoilers, but this one kind of went into a different direction. It was, had a little bit more action involved in it. Hmm. Yeah, don't get too far into the spoilers because I actually didn't get a chance to see this one yet because it's Saturday night and it came out yesterday. This is the one you haven't seen this week, which is fine because we're covering three

movies tonight so we we definitely no and I want to I want to hear about it you know and I I I really wanted to watch this one yeah it went into it was more more of it seemed like more of an action it got in into more action more

and it didn't bother me at all I enjoyed it like more action than the purge anarchy yes okay cool I'll watch that and And I really like Frank Grillo, I believe is his name, the main guy. He was in the second one. Yeah, no, he's in a TV show right now called Kingdom that I've got to check out.

You guys heard anything about that? The MMA show. The MMA show. Yeah, I don't have a watch it. That is supposed to be fucking phenomenal. And I'm an MMA freak, man. I totally watch it. Yeah, it is on, I believe it's third season right now.

Yeah, it's been on for, it's been flying under the radar, man. Somebody told me about it a couple of weeks ago, and I'm like, like, okay, that one's on my docket to watch for sure. Yeah, I've heard any until recently. Yeah, I'm also a fanatic, MMA fanatic. So I've been trying to catch this show, but I seem to catch it in the mid-season, mid-third season, or second, you know, I definitely want to check it out.

Any show you watch now, if you don't watch it from like the very beginning, I mean, they've all got storylines. You can't just pick up in the middle, you know? Definitely. But I don't know, this is really hard. not to get into spoilers, but... So wait, this, the, uh, the, the, the, dude, the main character in this one, is he the main

character from, uh, anarchy? Yes. Okay, cool. I like that guy a lot. Well, sort of. Sort of the main character. Right, Brian? Um, he's in majority of the movie.

I won't say he's the primary character, but he's a major part of the, the third movie. Whatever. He's in the movie and the only one who obviously knew what the fuck he was doing in the second one. Yeah. And they, they, they elaborate more. on, because they didn't, on the second one, they didn't really elaborate about his past. Yeah. I mean, you can tell some stuff about his past, but yeah.

Yeah, but they, they kind of get into that in the third one. That makes sense. So how did you feel? What did you think about the, what did you think about the messages, Brian? Because obviously there were a lot of political messages in here. Yeah, I kind of see what they were, where the, I guess the government was what they was what they was trying to do when the anti-purge. Right.

I don't even know what you call them. The people rising against the purge trying to stop the purge. I don't know if they had a name. I know the other guys had a four-letter. What were the guys called that were actually in favor of the purge? Oh, I don't know. The new founding fathers. Yes, there you go.

And like I said, I missed the second one, so I didn't catch all that backstory. Was that Malcolm X-looking dude from the second one in this one? That's kind of getting into the spoilers right there. Oh, okay. All right. We don't need to talk too much about that part of it. But I'm glad you enjoyed it. Brian, I'm glad you enjoyed the action aspect of it because while I was in the theater watching this movie, I got to tell you, man. I kept looking at my watch, man.

I couldn't wait to get out of there. Really? Truth to tell. Yeah, I mean, I just didn't get it. I mean, I understood. And when we give our ratings at the end, I'll tell you right now that I'm giving it. an extra point for effort. Because I'm going to tell you that they, in my opinion, they tried to say something that

at least didn't speak to me as much as I think they thought it was going to speak to people, if that makes sense. To me, it was, there was an old episode of Star Trek original series called Miri, like way back in the first season. And the kids were running around going bong, bong, bong on the head, bong, bong, on the head. that was my impression of what the filmmakers did with this thing. I mean, I think they just made it way too, way too obvious what they were trying to say.

I mean, obviously, they were completely on the side of gun control. I mean, it's a very, very loosely or very, very lightly. It's pretty obvious to me that they're trying to push gun control. I see where you're going with that. They're trying to basically say that anyone who's in authority is, I kind of feel they have to get into the more of the political side of this series. Sure. I mean, that was the whole, for it to continue.

Yeah, because if they don't, it's just going to be the same thing over and over. Right. Well, I think even the first two movies had that, and that's some of the stuff that I had to ignore. You know, I mean, if you look too much into it and listen to maybe the messages that they're trying to bring, that's some of the stuff that sort of makes me mad and so and so I try to look at it as just a movie and not listening to any sort of the political messages

that they may be trying to push and if I did that they're cool but yeah if I look too much into it man it's just it's just going to irritate me and it takes away from the movie to me you know what bothered me about it Brian I just think they just made caricatures out of everybody, man.

I don't think it was very cleverly. I think they thought they were writing it a lot more cleverly than they really were. I think, for example, the skinhead guy with all the tattoos and the very, very thinly veiled Nazi swastika emblems. And then, of course, you get into the founding father group and the kind of clothing they were wearing and the kind of chanting that they were doing. that. Yeah, I found that pretty creepy. Did you? I thought it's kind of creepy. Yeah, because it was almost, the purge

is almost like a religion to them. Right. Sure. Where they pray, they have their own purge prayer and I don't know. And they touched on that in the first one and the second one. Right. Especially more in the second one where they were Yeah, I can see that how they're kind of

building on the. This is my right given to me by the Founding Fathers, you know. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely saying some things about what's going on right now and it's definitely making some political statements. It just didn't speak to me that much, you know? Um, you know, not every movie is for everyone. And, um, I thought that the, uh, I thought Grillo was, was okay. Um, I thought it was kind of ironic that, um, they were talking about Elizabeth Mitchell, uh, which I first saw her from Lost. She was, uh, the one of the others in that show. Which one? Um, uh, the show, remember the

show lost. Yeah, yeah. She was the one that, um, the first one that they met that was considered like one of the others. The blonde chick? The blonde chick. Yeah. And then she ended up, uh, kind of siding with, because we can't really spoil lost at this

point. Because she kind of ended up siding with our, with our folks. And we found out what she was really all about. Yeah. And I mean, that's like a season two loss spoiler. Yeah. For sure. I just thought it was kind of ironic that I've always, uh, a lot of people say she's extremely

stacked. And one of the first lines in the movie was a guy said, man, that Senator has some little bitty titties, but she's got some big old balls. Are we talking about the same Elizabeth Mitchell here? But yeah, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, man, their acting was passable. I would definitely give them this,

that they had some great set design. Some of the cars, the way they had the cars set up, some of the graffiti and stuff around town and stuff like that, just they really set up a pretty nice look to it. It was real creepy looking, so I'll definitely give them, you know, give them some points for that. But I just didn't think it was all that well-written, man. And again, it just didn't speak to me,

which doesn't mean that people aren't going to go out there and enjoy watching it. And if you enjoy the first two purge movies, definitely go see this, because like Brian said, it really does build on the mythology, and it gives you a lot of backstory. Yeah, I think there's a couple ways they can go into the fourth one. So what do you see coming? Because I'm sure they're going to keep it going if this makes money, right? I mean, without spoilers, what do you see in general terms?

Well, one way, if I say one way, then I'm going to spoil the ending. But I can also see maybe a prequel. Ah, okay. Yeah, that would make sense to show how it started. Yeah, I would totally watch a prequel. Yeah, because I would like to see how people first reacted to this being. You know, you got 12 hours to do whatever you want. Yeah.

And it's basically a population control thing, you know? But it's like a, it's almost a thriller slash sci-fi thing because it's in a different universe, you know? Well, let me ask you guys. But it's a little too close to ours. Let me ask you guys this. And this has bothered me ever since the first Purge movie, okay? I've got to get this off my chest. So you got 12 hours to do literally whatever you want.

Right. Nothing is illegal. They don't specifically say murder only is legal. They say nothing is illegal, right? Right. Yeah. Where the fuck are all the guys going in and breaking into the pharmacies and stealing drugs and going and knocking over guys that are drug lords and... I think it does... Where's all the rape? Wouldn't there be a lot more rape? Well, I think it does happen, but I think they don't focus on that in the movie because I don't know. This might be a minor...

A little minor spoiler in the new one. Can I go ahead and say something? The scene where the, I can't think of the actor's name, but I think his name's Joe in the movie. Okay. The guy that owns the deli, he gets the phone call saying that his purge insurance has just raised. Oh, yeah, that's really early in the movie. That's no spoiler at all. Yeah.

So I think that kind of stuff does happen. Okay. Because people have purge insurance on their store or their businesses. Ah, okay. So I think they just don't focus on it. it in the movie. Well, because the big moral question is always, you know, the murder aspect of it. And, you know, how many people in a year would you like to just really put a hatchet in their head?

More than one, that's for sure. Usually what I'm driving. But it becomes a whole lot more of a gray area when you talk about, you know, like robbing people and all that, which I'm... Right. It's still obviously a very defined line, but it's not as bad as, look, we're killing somebody, and that's what we're supposed to do, because this is the time of the year that we're supposed to do that. That's what they told us to do. Well, Brian, obviously you enjoyed it more than I do.

Any other last words on this one? I will say they do keep up the tradition of, I believe they up the Annie in the outfits and the mask, because it seems like if it's the purge, you have to have. the craziest mask and outfit that you can think of. As the guy in the movie said, this is Halloween for grownups, right? Yes. So I will give them a point on that one. Okay, cool.

So, you know, since just the two of us saw it, I guess it's just the two of us giving scores. I'm going to guess your score will be higher than mine, but let's see. I'm going to give it a seven. Okay. I can see that. A soft seven. Right. I can see that.

Yeah, considering what you said about it. Just after seeing the other two, I can see that. I mean, I will say this. There were some fun parts in it for sure. Like I said, I like the set design. Didn't care at all for any of the dialogue. I thought it was really poorly written. The acting, I thought, was passable.

But I expected a lot more out of Grillo, because I've definitely seen him in better things. I was actually going to give this movie a two, Brian, but when it got to the final scene and the movie ended, the particular song that they played, I thought was a genius choice. And I also kind of thought it was kind of interesting how they threw that angle in of the people that weren't actually from America, how they fit them into the movie. That was kind of interesting.

So actually, I will give it a three, which obviously, means it's not one of my favorite films of the year. But, you know, hey, if I'd seen the second one, guys, which I understand is very much a direct prequel to this one, I definitely would have probably given it a higher score. But why don't you guys talk about that one since I didn't see Anarchy? Philip, you want to go ahead and go first? Yeah, sure.

I actually, I like the Purge Anarchy. I thought that it was definitely a very different take than the first one. it was just a instead of the home invasion kind of thing it turned it into more of a what's happening elsewhere and downtown I do have a couple of questions

one of them is dude why and I thought this during the first one too why on the day of the purge would you possibly be driving around or going to work or any of that shit you know what I mean

because you're just setting yourself up for failure. You know, what happens if your car breaks down? Well, guess what? We find out you fucking die. But, no,

I liked it. I thought it was, I thought it was pretty good. It had a lot more epicness than the first one did because they were in a lot of very short,

sweet scenarios. And there were a bunch of them. They were in danger a lot. Yeah, they had to constantly keep moving. Yeah. Well, I mean, because they were moving through the city. Yeah. But this one, the one thing that this one had, that the first one didn't have, is Frank Grillo, who, like I said, was the only one who knew what the fuck he was doing out there.

And that's what drives me people. A bunch of people, or that's what drives me crazy. A bunch of people that are untrained in combat or guns or anything. trying to just kill a bunch of people. I mean, you're just asking to get killed. And that's the part that I don't understand. I mean, you have to be insane to go out there and try to hunt people while everybody else is hunting everybody else, you know? Yeah, he definitely was prepared right down to his car.

Yeah, that was a pretty badass thing, man. The car was all like Kevlar-coated and had bulletproof glass and all that. And then threw a whole government accent into it, you know? The big bad dudes and the 18 wheelers with the, with the like car-mounted gatling guns. And that was one of my questions at the very beginning. I was like, wait a minute. Didn't they say like class four weapons and lower were legal? And I don't know what the classes are in this particular world,

but I would imagine something that gets bolted down to a vehicle. and is fully automatic, a fucking galling gun, it's probably not legal during the purge. Well, there's no telling what the laws is, because it's, what is the time period? Like, 2020-something? 2020, I think, or 2018, I think, was the first year or something like that. Yeah, but I mean, if it's for population control,

I mean, you can't have just a fully auto thing that just mows people down, you know what I mean? Because that just is, it spells disaster for everybody. they look pretty cool though oh it did look cool and that guy was an ass but that's what's the point sounds like I probably should have

should have seen this one in order to give the third one you know it's due I thought it's good and I liked it yeah because I totally agree like Frank Grillo's character is you believe he's 100 fully ready to go out on this night and do what he needs to do

right and he just ends up babysitting everybody else yeah which I didn't really understand what was his motivation to help every single person that he came across. Because he's a good guy, man. He's somebody who went out there to go purge, who is the everyday, well, not necessarily the everyday guy, but he's the good guy, you know,

and he's still going out there to do this purge thing. What did you think about the whole, like you brought up the bad guy and the 18-wheeler? What did you think about his character? I mean, that was a pretty definitive bad guy, guy, you know? I mean, because they had a whole clan of people around him that were

all body armored up and just annihilating everybody in their path. It definitely put some tension on it. It was kind of scary, you know? It was a little more over the top than the first one. I thought the first one was more in a realistic type atmosphere.

And then this one, this one was almost more of an action movie. Yeah, I can see that. Definitely. Now, now I'm thinking about it. Yeah, I think you will like the third one. Yeah, I'm sure I will. Because I was a fan of this one. More of a fan than I expect.

All right, cool, guys. So I think I'll go back and check this one out so I can give the third it's due then. Philip, what would you give, what rating would you give it? I think I'm going to say, I'm going to say 6.5. It's a tough one to give a rating to, but I think it was definitely worth the watch. It was enjoyable. And as long as you don't take the political message too seriously, then it's a good movie to check out.

Cool. I am also going to give it a 6.5. I think Frank Grillo is, he's awesome in this movie. Yeah. And I fully enjoy, I like where his character kind of went into the third one based off of this. You kind of get into the whole, you get introduced to the anti-purge. party. I don't, I don't even know what they're called.

Yeah. That was a Malcolm X dude that I was talking about. Yeah. Right. Yeah, they were, uh, they were saying, that was what got me, man. They were talking about, uh, you know, he was coming over the airwaves and saying, well, this is just a population control method set up by the rich to, to keep down the poor. And, uh, like, the old man in the movie was like, what as, that's puppet cock. And I'm like, what? That's obviously what the point of the whole fucking thing is. Plain as the nose on your face. Yeah.

But yeah, I give it a 6.5. It was a good mixture. Right. Of the original elements of the first one with action added to it, a little bit more action. Yeah. Good to do you. Okay. So it sounds like you guys both enjoyed

it more than you disliked it and it sounds like it would be a, it's almost mandatory to probably see that before the third one I'm guessing. Yeah. I mean, Brian, you could answer better that, better to that, you know? Because you've seen both. Yeah, because the, the third one happens closely after the second one, so. Right. But the first one is probably not necessary to see the second one. Well, you know what? Speaking of the first one, I think we've all seen the original

purge, right? Yes. So, Philip, what are your thoughts on that one? Or what, what were your thoughts when you first saw it? Um, I thought, you know, a little bit of the same stuff. I thought that, a, you know, it was a, it was a, like a home invasion thriller, but set in a, in a different world. It gave it a reason to be a home invasion thriller, you know? I have never heard a better description of the purge than you just gave. Because you, you know, you always see these home invasion thrillers, and there's people that, with, like, psychos with masks that are trying to break into your house and kill everybody. And there's never a real good reason for it.

You know, I'm sorry, but you don't just get a bunch of sociopaths that try to break into your house. kill you unless you've given them a reason. And this one actually had a reason for that to happen. I thought it was good. You know, it had a lot of political messages, again, that I was trying not to look too far into, because I think that the messages were way left-wing, and I'm probably...

A little over the top, would you agree? I'm probably a little more of a right-wing kind of person, but I don't know, man. Oh, but folks, we don't. Hold on. We don't talk politics on the horror returns. Just a disclaimer here. I'm a weird political person, man, because I'll tell you right now, I'm pretty moderate, but I have a lot of really white-wing thoughts, and then I have a lot of really left-wing thoughts, too. So I'm kind of scattered across the board. Yeah, I'm like that with music, too, dude.

But nonetheless, it was like way over the top. I mean, it just, like I was saying, bong, bonged on the head big time, right? Right. So, you know, you kind of have to admit. the political messages that it's trying to send and just watch it as a movie as it's trying to be presented. And then it's, it's worth watching. There's a lot of situations in it where I wanted to yell at the people. What are you doing? The fuck are you doing? Stop being stupid.

And I'm going to tell you right now, if there's a bunch of little white privileged kids outside my house with machetes, they are going to rue the fucking day. You're going down, huh? I'm not going to be the one that's in trouble. Whether you work for a security company or not, huh? Yeah, dude. I'm going to go Alamo on their ass. But it was worth watching, man. I thought it was good.

It was a different movie when it came out. It was a different for the time. Yeah, I was not the biggest fan of the Purge guys. I thought it was pretty much just a straight-ahead, home invasion movie. I didn't get a whole lot out of it that was new, although Philip, I do like the way you described it. Yeah. It was like a home invasion movie with a purpose. There was like a reason and a setup for it.

I thought also, just like you, that a lot of the main characters were extremely stupid. Which sucks because it had a killer cast, man, killer cast. Especially looking back, yeah. Yeah, Ethan Hawk and... Speaking of Searcy, man, if she had behaved in this movie, like she'd be Haves in Game of Thrones? Well, she's kind of a badass. It would have been over in about 10 minutes.

She's kind of a badass. She's kind of a badass at the end of it. Well, when she needs to be, right? Yeah, when she needs to be. But yeah, I mean, I didn't get that much out of it, guys, to tell you the truth. I mean, I thought it was kind of, you know, obviously, again, the political messages to me were just, like, way overboard from the word go. You know, I just didn't necessarily think it brought that much new.

and why is it that if the purge allows you to murder people without any kind of repercussions, why the fuck do you need to wear mask anyway? Why the fuck did he go to work that day? Like he came home and ate dinner and the purge started. And he was like, oh, I didn't know what the time was. Are you fucking stupid? Dude, take the day off, man.

Oh, you're going to fire me? Well, that sucks because I don't want to die, so fuck you. There was a lot of stupidity in this movie, wouldn't you say, Brian? How about you get contact with your GD kids? Oh my gosh, the worst kids ever. That's saying a lot, my friend. Okay, that girl was fucking hot, but she's dumb as a fucking brick, man. God, I wanted to hit her in the face.

You're talking about Ethan Hawke's daughter? Yeah. Oh, that's Mary Queen of Scots, man. You didn't know that? Yeah. Yeah, the TV show Rain. Have you guys ever heard of that? Uh-uh.

Yeah, Adelaide Cain is her name. She actually plays Mary Queen of Scots. Like, I'm the super strict father, and I'm going to let you wear this little schoolgirl outfit with these fucking thigh highs and tied up t-shirt. Oh, man. Like, she's gorgeous, but. And how old is her boyfriend supposed to be? I don't know. He couldn't have been that much older than her because they're both young.

I mean, worst case scenario, he's 25 and she's 18, which is definitely not acceptable. But, hey, that was my sister, man. Right. And let's not get started on their son. Oh, geez. What a little dumb ass. Yeah. This is going to, I think this is going to be my thing for every show.

The stupid people, right down to the stupid. Oh, yeah, it is. You said that last time. Hey, but he was the only one with the good moral compass, man. Right? Yeah, I, yeah, he should have, but he should have went about it a different way. Just kind of. Good moral compass, stupid decisions.

and I want to get into the end. I really hated when the neighbors came and you thought they were helping. Oh, you like that? That was a whole other thing right there. I hated their whole reasoning. Yeah, it didn't. Okay, because, spoiler alert. So they came over and...

This movie's way more than a year. They came over and it looked like they were helping and then they were like, oh no we wanted to kill you because you sold us a bunch of security systems and got rich off of our neighborhood yeah and you you guys put it into your house and threw it in our face i'm like really are you serious yes okay the guy is in sales he sells security systems you bought security systems he didn't hold a fucking gun to your head now you see where i thought that where that should have went is earlier in the movie where i can't think of her name lena heady surcing lannis she was asking her husband, is our security system safe?

Is it going to keep them out? And he basically said, no, it's not, it's not impenetrable. They can get in here. Now, see, if they would have went that way and the neighbors felt like he got rich off of them selling them faulty security systems, I would have bought that more. That's true. That would have made more sense. But, I mean, he said no security system is impenetrable. I mean, you know, you put some steel doors and shit in, but if they bring in trucks and hook some steel chains to them and yank them off the fucking hinges, then, I mean, what are you going to do?

Yeah. You know, I mean, you can drive a car through a fucking wall somewhere. I mean, nothing's impenetrable. Yeah, I just wanted a little bit better reasoning because for majority of their supposed friends, just aided them because he sold security systems. The blonde chick played a really good bitch, though, because I hated her. Oh, I hated her. I was so... Okay, that one of those last scenes where Lena Heady fucking smashes her face into the table and says, can we get five fucking seconds of peace?

That was one of my favorites, because I wish that she had hurt her a little more than that. All right, were you guys ready to get into ratings then? Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and give this one a five. Yeah? I didn't enjoy it as much as two and three. Right. I'm going to be honest.

The first time I watched it, I did kind of doze off in the beginning. I don't know. I do agree with the, it's an invasion movie with a purpose, but it just kind of, I don't know. It didn't really grab me at first. The whole, you know, I went to go see the movie because the whole concept of the purge. was intriguing. Yeah. But it didn't wow me in this movie.

That makes sense. I mean, I think that, you know, with, I mean, because they kept losing, how big is this fucking house? They kept losing their kids in the house and who kept running off because they were throwing temper tantrums. Oh, don't, don't forget the guy. Oh, right. And the dude that they let him, they couldn't find him nowhere.

They couldn't fucking find him in their own house. I'm like, okay, if your house is that big, you got other problems. Right. But anyway, aside from the big plot holes like that, I thought that the cast was really awesome. I think the acting was good. There was just a lot of those common sense issues that I had issues with. And I think for that reason, I'm going to have to give it a six. I want to give it a seven, but I have to give it a six because of that.

Because there were so many times where I was like, oh, that's stupid. And I mean, if you have one night a year where people are definitely trying to kill you, you probably ought to be a little more well trained in guns. So that somebody with a machete is not going to take you out when you have a gun. No kidding, man. It would be a completely different world, wouldn't it? Even if it's just one night, even it's just 12 fucking hours a year. You would start getting into a lot. I would think you'd make less money on security systems and more money on fucking training people how to kill other people.

There'd be a gun on me at all times. I'll tell you that right now. So it sounds like, Brian, you definitely liked each movie better than the one prior, which is a good sign. Yeah. Yeah, I felt like they progressed. And did you give your score? You said seven, right? No, I said a six.

And I think, but, you know, when they brought out the second one, my initial reaction was, you know, I don't know that that, I mean, it was a good movie, but I don't know that that movie was good enough to have a sequel to it. and then I actually really enjoyed the sequel. Right. Well, I would give the original purge. Of course, I hadn't seen the second one, and the third I gave it a three. I'd give the original purge a 3.5. You know, I mean, I liked about a third of it. Ouch.

It was okay. You know, it was okay. I didn't think the acting was that great. I think the cast, again, just like the third one. I thought the cast, with the cast they had at hand, in my opinion, they should have done a better job. So I think it boils down to directing and writing. I love you.

From my experience. But anyway, so yeah, I'd give it a 3.5. So, you know, that's it for the three films for this week, folks. So now, of course, it's time for listener feedback. This week's listener feedback comes from Mark Chevalier from Montreal, Quebec. Mark says, I listen to the first episodes of the horror returns and I've enjoyed them a lot. There was a bit of an audio echo problem in the first episode, but I didn't hear it in the second, so it sounds like you've solved it.

Hey, that's because we were recording in the kitchen and I think we fixed it. Hey, hey, thanks for the feedback. Mark, get it? Get it? Thanks for the feedback. No, for real, because I noticed that too. And I like that you threw that honest commentary in there. He says, I caught up with the horror returns.

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