The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #504: 28 Weeks Later (2007) & 28 Years Later: The Bone Temple (2026)

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

This episode we are joined all the way from the UK, Matt Wood is here to help THR with British Zombie Week as we cover 28 Weeks Later from 2007 and the new film in the series 28 Years Later: The Bone Temple from 2026.  And of course our cool of the week, Horror headlines and a trip to trailer park. As well as our listener feed back brought to you by brother Phil.  Thanks for tuning in and enjoy the show! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. You know what's up everybody? The horror returns, episode five, 0.04. Tonight, we are giving you the British Zombie Week, I assume Lance, or one of you guys make this up. Brother Phil will be here

when he can. Brother Lance is doing this thing. Life gets in the way for all of us. But brother Brian is here. What's up, man? What's up, man? And we've got a guest. Matt Wood, from the other side of the world. how you doing Matt? Very good, Kev. Yeah, thank you again for having me on.

It's been a while. Actually, I can't remember the last thing I did with you guys. Maybe it was, oh, God, maybe March Madness, I think. I'm with the last thing. I think so. Or was it where we did Pink Flamingos, the... Oh, I can never forget that one. No, you can't forget that one.

Yeah. All good fun. But, yeah, it's always good to be on the show. Thanks again for having me. All right, man. I assume I'm supposed to read this intro, but we're flying by the seat of our pace tonight. We're wanging it this week.

Yeah, if you guys listen to Brian and I, you know how we roll, so we're going to do it our way. But, of course, we're going to start off with a cool of the week. Matt, what is your cool of, what is your cool for this week? Well,

I've been in a bit of a horror film, funk for the last sort of six or so weeks. I don't know just post no maybe two months

basically since we did 31 days of October obviously I did that and went hellful leather on that and then

I don't know I think I just you know over the year course of the year I'm like Brian and yourself watch a lot of films and I just kind of

got burnt out and I was like you know what I can't watch anything new. And I just kind of start watching war films and stuff aside. But I have got myself

back into it this year. Started off with the film called Primate. Okay. I presume you guys see that. Yeah, of course you see it because you did the review last week. Did you see it, Nez? I remember. I did see it.

I did see it. I saw it. I wasn't on the show. I was not a fan. of it like the boys here it was the kills were good I loved all that I thought that was cool but it was just okay we haven't we've seen this before I just kind of uh it gave me the more kujo vibe so I was kind of like yeah yeah yeah I'm I'm down with you in honesty I just felt yeah we'd seen before I was expecting more of a sort of family drama you know, with them bringing the sort of chimp home and then learning about it a bit more. And then it's suddenly just going a bit fucking bonkers and unpredictable rather than the rabies route.

And like you say, that kind of Coojo thing. So, yeah, I was a bit disappointed. I mean, as you say, the kills are excellent. I'm not going to spoil those for you. But so, I mean, some of those are really, really good, good fun. but it was it was more like a um yeah like kujo but like a what you call it a oh god brain's gone dead you know uh just half fuck it whatever um anyway so yeah six six out of ten for me on that one yeah i probably be the same score i would give it like a six i mean i mean my son enjoyed it but i was

I was like, oh, okay. I mean, if it wasn't for the kills, my score would probably be a lot lower, but, I mean, it started off with a bang for that first kill when a guy getting his face ripped off. But then all the, as it went along, to me, it seemed like it went a little too fast. It was like rabies and then...

Yeah. I thought they were going to be like running around the jungle and it chasing them or something. I didn't know they were going to be stuck in a house, but... I'm keeping my score at eight. Just as for big. end.

Eight. Wow, you really did enjoy it. Yeah. That's good. That's good, though. That's good. What else have I seen? I've seen a film called Killer Whale,

which has just come out on VOD. Yeah, this is fucking awful. Really not good. This is basically very similar to the shallows. with Blake lively. It's just, yeah, it's a poor man's version of that. Really bad CGI. The acting was pretty mid to weak.

Yeah, I found it really dull personally. Yeah, you've seen it, Brian. Yeah, I 100% agree with you. It's a shallow rip-off, just replaced a shark with a killer whale and I didn't care about any of the people and then they did that cliche the friend had

something to tell the other friend that she's been meaning to tell her for so long and they tried to add drama to it the drama which is pretty much non-existent. It's just so boring nobody cared. Yeah but yeah

so I would skip that one unless you're so gone on this. Is it streaming? no okay well it's out there yeah what what movie is it killer whale killer whale killer whale you've seen the shallows right yeah just replace her with a different actress a different blonde actress and instead of a shark killer whale ah what part of the world is this taking place probably florida Florida. I don't think they swim down there.

No, I think they went to like the Bahamas or something. It says Thailand. It would be some weird shit to happen in Florida though. I think they're mostly in the Pacific. My knowledge of killer whales, I don't know if they're warm water mammals, but okay. I don't know everyone. I think they're more in your neck of the woods, dude. Yeah, I figured they were more of,

you're at, Brian, around that area. Oh, yeah. Oh, they are. Yeah. So, I mean, that's, I mean, I want to see this because, uh, being a native, I'm like, really? I mean, why is it trying to kill you? They usually don't go after people. My knowledge of it. Oh, there's a ridiculous backstory to order 66. I mean, if you, if you guys seen the awesome film, uh, from 1977, Orca, I mean, there was a reason why that that whale was going after the fisherman and everything.

Because he, I don't want to ruin it if you guys haven't seen it, but you should have seen it by now. Classic. Oh, that ain't that, this movie. Oh, okay. So, yeah, I love Orca. But this one, is it CGI the whole time or is it at least real killer whale at times? When it's the whale by itself, it looks pretty good. but then when the whale's doing any kind of attacking anything,

it's completely CGI and it's like the worst. Like, are you look at the whale riding its eye? 90s CGI where it's kind of bouncing off the page. That CGI we talk about when we're like, it's 2026. Why is it's, why does it look so bad?

We've come so far. Sci-fi channel classic. I'm going to have to see the trailer so I can at least get an image of what this is. Philip, do you have a cool of the week? Let's see. I watched the new running man. Okay. Yeah, not bad.

I mean, I don't know if I'd call it my cool of the week, but it's all I got. I watched that one, and then part of the old one until I fell asleep. It was really good seeing Arnold just being Arnold in a movie. That was fantastic. But yeah, no, I like what they did with the new one. I'm still, like, on the fence about this guy. I feel like I really like him. But he also has, like, the most punchable face I've ever seen.

You know what I mean? Glenn Powell. Glenn Powell, yeah. He looks like a fucking dick. but I mean, I'm sure he's the nicest guy in the world. Yeah, that's why I looks like a dick. That's why I don't like him. I mean, the movie was awesome.

I walked out of enjoying it, but I was kind of, I just, this dude, I don't know. I didn't like him. Well, it's probably because he was the asshole and Maverick. Yeah. And then the asshole and Twisters or whatever that one was called. So I'm just kind of like, uh, all right. It's like even when he plays the good guy, he's kind of an asshole.

All right, really quick. All right, I'm watching this killer whale trailer and I'll I'll find it. Yeah, and give it a shot. It looks like they're just in front of a green screen. Yeah, oh, there's a lot of green screen stuff going on. All right.

Straight to sci-fi specials. They saved money. They didn't spend a lot of time at the beach. I'll check it out. Brian, what do you got? All right, let me run through my list real quick. Start with TV. I checked out the first episode of the Game of Thrones spinoff

A Night of the Seven Kingdoms. Oh, is that already out? Yeah, just the first episode. I don't know how to feel about this one. I didn't know this was going to be a comedy series. That's kind of what I gathered from the previews. I haven't seen it at all. because he's like the main character is like super tall so he's like hitting his head on door frames constantly

and the opening you get that familiar game of thrones theme song and then it immediately cuts off to him taking a shit behind a tree well that's fun action buddy comedy is that what it is well he's got a little squire with him a little kid that that might be fun the relationship with them but so far the tone is kind of throwing me off. And, uh, I watched the entire series, uh, season of his and hers, a new murder mystery series on Netflix,

starring John Bernthal and Tessa Thompson. Oh, yeah. Pretty solid. Yeah. She plays a news reporter and he's a detective and there's like a string of murders that happen that they're, have a connection to and there's also connection between them

that they get into so there's a lot of twisty tourneys in there so it was pretty decent and it's only six episodes what's that on Netflix okay plus he seems like good casting for a cop

I like John Barrentel yeah I'm waiting for Punisher and all that come out come back yeah movies I checked out of course we talked about the killer way

you can skip that one. Checked out the rip. How was that? It's a lot of dialogue. It's almost two hours and most of the action doesn't happen until like the last 30 minutes. Oh, okay. They're like undercover. They get a tip to go search a stash house.

They find money. Matt Damon said the tip was for $150,000 and they end up finding $20 million. and there's a lot of which cop is dirty who's trying to steal it. There's other group involved that's coming after them. It's fine, but like I said, it's a lot of dialogue, a lot of trying to create the tension of, you know, because it's Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Stephen Young, Glenn from the Walking Dead, a whole bunch of other people.

So they kind of try to steer you in this direction, that direction, who might be the dirty cop. Goodwill hunting two. Hunting season. And... Or if anybody's seen Jay and Silent Bob, there is a whole... It's...

Yeah, yeah. Watch it. And my last movie I checked out was Brian Fuller, who did the Hannibal series. He directed a new movie called Dust Bunny, starring Mads Mickleson. and Sigourney Weaver. Basically, it's a little girl who believes a monster from under her bed has killed her parents and ate them.

And she finds out that her neighbor, Mads Mikkelson, is a assassin, and she hires him to kill the monster. It's very fantasy, a lot of action. Where does Sigourney Weaver fit in? I believe she is like Mads Mickleson's handler Like he gets the jobs from her That seems to be her Jam lately Yeah she pops up in these like minor roles

Yeah the overseer She's the big bad that's in the movie for five minutes Bitch I had a lot of fun with this one And I'm a big fan of Mads Mickleson I like a lot of the roles he does And he's pretty great what did I just see him in?

He wasn't he wasn't the bad guy Oh wow Um Well he played like an ass kicking good guy in something right Fuck Oh You're like an eye patch or some shit Or am I thinking

Oh That idiot That idiot That played They played Gambit Um Oh Magic Mike

Um Yeah Yeah Um The one when he was hiding in Toys or Russ Oh Roof Man. Madd-Mickleston was in that.

Was he? Am I thinking of the right guy? The guy from Rogue One? Is that how you talking about? Yeah. Yeah, he was in a roof man. He was... Oh.

I think it was like a church guy or something. I heard that was pretty good. It was. It was actually pretty good. It was better than my thought was going to be. Yeah. He does not look like the real dude at all. But I've got to get a good looking.

I feel like it looks weird. in that movie. It was actually pretty good. It was a little interesting on what he did to hide. He looks like cancer patient Channing Tatum or something. I don't know, man. There's something off about him. Well, he was just living off of him and him.

It's like towards for us. My cool of the week, you guys talked about it. I'm not sure. I think I made one of your guys as best of list. Bagonia. Yeah. I saw that. That movie one.

That movie was awesome. Wasn't it? I was like, okay, you're kind of leading me this way. I'm not really sure if it's going to go that way. And then when it got to the end, I was like, whoa. Yeah. I like this guy that made this movie. I like that Poor Things and there was another one he had done.

Poor Things was where she was like the Frankenstein chick or something, right? Yeah, when she was just banging everyone she could. Yeah. It was a weird movie, man Naked through the whole movie But I liked her in this man She does it for the art man Shaved her head and everything

So But I liked what was happening If you guys have not seen Begonio We won't do spoil it or anything But it's definitely worth watching It's streaming on Peacock now They could not have stuck the landing more Uh-uh

I knew it was gonna be weird And it was weird do the whole thing. And the special effects, I thought they did a really good job when shit got crazy, especially that last 40 minutes of the movie, 30 to 40 minutes, it just went wild. I was like, damn, what the hell's happening here? I wasn't expecting all that. But yeah, that movie was awesome. Other than the movie we're going to talk about later on, yeah, I got out to the theater and seen that. If you can, if you have a, depends on wherever you're at in the country or the world.

If you have the Cinemark XD or one of those ones with the super high loud speakers. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Definitely. Definitely go see 28 years later, the Bone Temple in that because it was loud. It was so loud. My old ear, my old man ears, I had to put my ear plugs in. I was like, damn loud.

But speaking of Bagonia, really quick, the Academy Award nominations are out. I'm just going to run through the best pictures. These are the nominations. There's 10 of them. Bagonia. F1, Frankenstein, is it Hamnet?

Yeah. Party Supreme. Yeah. One battle after another. The Secret Agent, sentimental value, Sinners and Train Dreams. Yeah, sinners broke record.

16 nominations. Wow. Actor, director. best picture song or best song I don't know what song it is in it unless it's that one when I seen when everybody was dancing but uh yeah

I'm gonna go the guitar scene I think I'm gonna go golden from K-pop demon hunters I love that song so they're nominated there are a couple of good stuff there's a couple of real stinkers too but there's a couple of good ones Has everybody seen K-pop Demon Hunters? I don't know I

I've seen it a couple of years. I haven't actually watched it, watched it, but I know all the songs. I feel like I'm in a small group of people that have not seen it. Yeah. See, I heard the songs more than I'd seen the movie because of my grandsons. And then when I finally sat through the whole movie, I was like, oh, okay, that's what these songs are about. So I think that was why I enjoyed it so much. I went to the sing a long one.

Is it more of a musical? Yeah, pretty much. when they break out in the song. I'm tapping out. But like old school Disney musical is like it's like a Disney type of stuff. Yeah. I'll watch

it if my daughter wants to watch it. I've asked her a couple times and she's just like, nah. Because that song Golden, it did win a Golden Globe was the last week. And when we did our best album and best song of the year, I heard Golden

so many times. I couldn't escape it and it just stuck in my head. So I said all right, I had to go with that. And now what we did talk about it. I said, watch, it's going to be nominated for Academy Award and it is. So my fingers are crossed with them. But as far as movies, I've only seen five of them. I need to see

the other five to finish my Oscar watch. For me, it's out of sinners and begonia. I know the little kid in that Hamnet movie is going to be in the new Exorcist movie. Do we need another one? Okay.

That last one was good. Wait, what happened to the series? Was there a series or was it always a movie? I heard that's coming later. Oh. I don't know if it's before or after this movie, but I have to pick out of these.

I'm going to go with sinners. For a horror movie slash musical type of thing, I mean, I'm all. for it. I'm surprised that it that is nominated

for Best Picture. Yeah. Yeah, me too. The substance last year was a shocker. Should have won. It was robbed. Yeah. Yeah. Good movie. And I hope Ryan Cougar wins Best Director as well as

Disney from Oakland. Yeah. That's the reason I'm going with him. Horror movies are where the creatives are right now. I mean, that it was more... Weapons got a lot of nominations. Unless you're creating some social justice drama

What other Oscar Bate movie could there be except horror? Like you can get as weird as you want to I mean we got two well Yeah Frankenstein and it was a horror movie But I could see why it was nominated So what Yeah I'm gonna go with that one Bologna yeah it's if it wins I'll I'm not gonna be mad

but I would really want sinners to win for a horror movie to win best picture I think it would be I know Silence of the Lambs won best picture whenever that was 90 something to me it wasn't a horror film it was horrific yes Silence of the Lambs is not a horror film

That it was more of a He's a serial killer that eats people No Silence of the Lamb is not a slasher film It was more of... Trying to find another serial killer that skins women and wears their skin. No, I thought it more of a thriller, a crime thriller to myself, man. Don't get me wrong, I love that movie.

But I was like, this is not a horror movie. Same thing with Jaws. Jaws ain't a horror movie either. But anyway, yeah, sinners, it gets my vote. What is it? It's like an action adventure. I mean, Steve's an adventure. Steven Spielberg said it.

Somebody asked. Who's going on the adventure? Those guys, they went fishing. And that's what happens. Some people argue me on the... Generations are terrified to go in the water because of that movie. People argue with me on the internet. Well, it was a giant monster.

I said, okay, with that rationale, I said, is Jurassic Park a horror movie? And then people go, no. It's horror adjacent. It's giant monsters. He's chasing killing people. Yeah. Actually, that's a good point. I see, if you're saying, Jaws is a horror movie,

movie in Jurassic Park isn't I would probably lean more with Jurassic Park with giant monsters trying to chew you to eat you up and everything but that was just a fishing adventure movie yeah they just didn't they didn't lean in enough in Jurassic Park to the horror aspect but it very well could have been a horror movie put that on the blue way it's just a fishing adventure movie Steven Spielberg himself somebody asked him is is Jaws a horror movie he said no so I'm going with the the director but anyway All right, moving on. Fill up, you could take over now. You're here. All right. What are we into? Horror headlines?

Yeah. Let's go, Brian. What do we got? Have you guys seen the summer camp movie, Marshmallow? Yes. No. Did I?

Maybe I did. They announced that it's getting a sequel. Everybody that made the movie is returning to do the sequel. I thought this was a good little underrated little indie horror movie and if you haven't seen it I'd go in without watching a trailer Oh, that's

Well, let me stop the trailer Yeah, don't do that I just started it Is that the one with the Is that the little boy? Yeah Yeah, that's right It was all right

It was all right Yeah, I think I really ended up liking it Because I didn't watch a trailer or anything and the end the twist at the end was something I didn't expect to happen. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, fair enough. Have you guys seen... Oh, go ahead. Sorry, I was going to say, is that coming out... Is that coming out this year or just in... Up for production?

Up for production. They just announced that it's getting a sequel. Oh, so this is... It's on... on AMC Plus. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Let me write that down, so I won't forget it. Have you guys seen the mock trailer? Bitch, don't go in that house, bitch? Yes. Yeah. It's a house bitch. Narrated by Snoop Dog and directed by Eli Roth. He is now turning this into a feature-in-length movie starring Snoop Dogg.

And it will still be. titled, Don't Go in That House, Bitch. I just saw Eli Roth down in Vegas. Fantastic. Did you tell him you got a co-host that hates his work? No. I just shook his head and that was it. He was cool.

I mean, just for the second that I met him. I didn't get into the cabin fever screening, man. It was sold out. I was mad. Well, you could have asked him about our next. little news bit a little bit more on Eli Roth. Thanksgiving 2 filming has been

delayed due to scheduling conflict. It's not canceled. It's just trying to get all the actors scheduling synced up to film the movie. Yeah, they want to come back.

Is that Eli Roth again? Yeah. Lance's arch nemesis. First one. Absolutely. Yeah. What was a killer's name in that? Just the Pilgrim or whatever? Oh, he had a name.

Yeah, he had a name. I feel like the Pilgrim would be a good name. Sounds good to me. I can't, I don't remember his name. Yeah, he had a name. I don't know. I haven't seen this movie. I haven't seen.

How did it? I brought up the Exorcist earlier. Mike Flanagan's The Exorcist gets a release date of March 12th, 27. That one, Flanagan. Is that a series or a movie? Movie. Oh, Flanagan's doing the movie. The Carrie one that he's doing is the series. Okay. And that one was suspecting

we're going to get a trailer for that one real soon because they finished filming about a month ago. What is this called? The Exorcist. Yeah. They haven't gave it titles just Mike Flanagan's The Exorcist, starring Scarlett Johansson.

And it is not a remake. It's a new story. They're not remaking it or expanding on the original story. It's a whole new take. Good decision. What's wrong on, Lance? What's wrong, Kevin? Sorry, I called you Lance because Lance is usually the

I didn't like that last one The Believers or whatever the hell it was called I was just like really Oh you like you like Mike Flanagan I like him but I didn't like That last Exorcist movie Yeah It has nothing to do with that one

Yeah that last Exorcist movie was kind of Yeah They could have called it something They could have just called it the believers And just left The Exorcists out I mean but Mike Flanagan Every minute he's done so far

The Haunting on Hillhounds and Dr. Sleep and Midnight Mass. I thought those were good. Dr. Sleep is probably my favorite. I liked what he did there. Oh, yeah, I forgot he did that one. All right. Man, I was kind of hoping for a series out of this one.

But I'll take a movie. Mike Flanagan movie. Done. Well, he did Ouija Origin of Evil. Yeah, the good one. Oh, that was the good one. Was that the second one? Yeah.

Okay, yeah, that was the good one. I don't remember that first one was garbage. Yeah, the first one. one was garbage. Let's see. The new Paranoma activity movie gets a release date of May 21st, 2027. And I wasn't looking forward to this one,

but when we looked at that trailer last week, undertone about the podcaster, and we talked about how sound design was probably going to play a big part in the movie. I think if he can, he's directing the new paranormal activity. I think if he can, bring a good sound design

an atmosphere to the new one. I think it'll turn out to be something new and different. Yeah. That's another one where you can just pick whatever story you want to do with paranormal activity. Yeah, great. Yeah. Like it doesn't have that I thing to do

with the rest of it. That last one was terrible. Next to Ken. Well, this tells me something that this one's going to theater as opposed to that last one went straight to streaming. They probably have a little bit more faith than this one. If you guys didn't see the last one, all you got to do is watch the end.

That's the most exciting part. I didn't mind it. I didn't mind it. I didn't like it. The ending was awesome, but I was just like, ah, come on, something happened. Is that the bit with the well? Yeah. Yeah, that's fine.

I'm going to have to rewit. I at least saw it one time. I watched it the one time, Brian, we might have to... There's like eight of them. We all blend together. I liked all of them,

except for the last one. I didn't mind most of them. I didn't like the 3D one. What is it? Ghost dimension. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Did you see it in 3D?

Because the 3D looked good. The 3D looked good. That was about it. It was all right. I mean, I... Wasn't that the one with like the Xbox thing? Yeah. That was...

That one. No, they did. No, what? No, that's right. I thought that was the 3D one. No. With the Xbox Connect. It should have been.

That one would have been cool in 3D. My favorite one, other than the first is the marked ones. That one was awesome. Oh, the little spin-off one? Yeah, when they were in the hood, in the Mexican hood. Yeah, that one was hell of good. I like they connected it to the first one. Oh, yeah.

Oh, man. I don't want to fall down that whole, Brian, but we might have to do watch that one. for frightful reflections. All right. Put it on the list. Yeah. The Conjuring First Communion, the prequel movie,

is coming to theater September 10, 2027. I thought they were done with it. That's what I thought. When we reviewed the last conjuring, I set it on here, they're done with Patrick Wilson

and Vera Formiga. They're not done with the Warrens. These movies make too much money for them. are they just going to get the younger conjuring what? The Conjuring First Communion. I think they're going to get younger actors, but I don't think it will be the actors

that were in the last one in the flashback. I think they're just going to get more known people. Yeah. I think they've already done a lot of the of the Warren's most famous cases, at least. So, I mean, but you know, they could delve into some.

I wouldn't mind if it was a series. Yeah. Different case each episode. Monster of the Week thing? That'd be cool. Yeah. That'd work. And lastly, you got something to add, Matt?

No, no, I was just thinking, yeah, they're kind of done, really. I think they should have just put it to bed. Yeah. So I watched a thing on the Y files on the Warrens. and most of it gets a little disappointing. But

I don't even remember the last one. Pretty bullshit. Everybody's got a book deal. Who were they fighting in the last one? Ghost. I know, but yeah. I remember the one with the court case. The demon.

It was the family, wasn't it? They did that TV movie. Remember? I don't know if you were on that one. They did like a TV movie in the 90s. Oh, I had to look at pictures. All right, okay. I have to rewatch this because I don't remember.

All I remember was the one before. The devil something. Cold case one. Yeah, the devil made me do it. Not good. That was a COVID time. You know, we keep saying it's not good, but I do remember that one.

I remember that one more than the last one. Yeah. Because that was the one when it went straight to HBO when... It's because it's your mind making you remember the not good one. Maybe.

I mean, I was excited for it and I wanted to go to the theater but the world fell apart. So we had to watch it at home, but... I might have to go back and watch the last two. So... Hey, you got a new friend.

Yeah. He's being cool. Mine just tries to eat me. And finishing up horror headlines, we got casting news on the second Evil Dead movie that's coming. The first one's already done filming, which is Evil Dead Burn.

The second one, they're about to start production. Cast Jessica McNameh, Charlotte Hope, and Zach Guilford. And this is, going to be directed by Francis Galaloupie. So is this a separate story or is

like a continuation or spinoff of something that's happened? Both new ones that are coming out are spin-offs. They're in the universe, but they're not continuation. Okay. I just seen the hell is that chick's name.

I think it was the mom and Evil Dead Rise. Alyssa Southerland. Yeah, I saw her. She was in Vegas. yes who man oh she's tall too she's tall too I was like she came walking by and she just went high and went whoa

that was all I said whoa and then she kept walking so I was I was surprised but I did talk to um uh Jane Levy from uh the Evil Dead the remake she gonna come back

uh I don't know she not had a great time making that movie I was talking to her about that TV show, Suburgatory. Oh. Everyone was throwing Evil Dead stuff at her and this and that. I said, what happened to this show? I said, did he get canceled? She would know, they just told us, don't come back.

We're done. She was, so I was like, oh, man, if you guys haven't seen Suburgatory, it was a good show. That's the first thing I had seen her in until Evil Dead came out. But, yeah, that was my Evil Dead experience. weekend past weekend all right that's the news all right on to the trailer part

where we take a bring you the big the small and sometimes the very very weird Brian what are we getting the first and only trailer we got is the mortuary assistant

from what I understand this is based off a video game okay I feel like the name sounds familiar although it is a little generic is this what I understand it's a very popular video game

I've never heard of it I'm a gamer I've never heard of it is it a video game trailer no it's a film adaptation oh here I'm watching the video game trailer the video game trailer scary I was gonna say damn now I kind of want to play the game

yeah I think you're supposed to like get your autopsy work done before ghosts like possessed of corpses and try to get you or something. I might have just made up my own game but I think that's what it's about.

It'd be kind of fun. Is this? Yeah, just look on PlayStation. Just look on PlayStation. Yeah, the mortuary assistant. Is this straight to shutter or in the theater? This is getting a theater release first. It's like operation, but if you screw up, there's demons.

Oh, it's an anthology? I'm watching the trailer. No, no. That's not it? No. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm watching the mortuary collection. My bad. Which is, that's not bad either.

Yeah. It looks like an exorcism movie. Oh, okay, here we go. All right. Yeah. I'm curious about the trailer. It looks good. This is also a show.

It looks like a cross-chain like evil dead and, uh, or autopsy of Jane Doe. Yeah, there you go. Those kind of vibes. What was that movie that took place in a whole, uh, mortuary? Uh, yeah, autopsie of Jane Doe. Probably the autopsy of Jane Doe.

No, no, no, yeah, not that one. They did, there was another one that was similar to it. Yeah, I saw in the theater. What the hell was it called? Corps of Anna Fritz. I, um, No, no one. Oh, you're talking about the one where the girl gets a job in a mortuary. She's like a security guard or something.

I think so. What the hell is that? Ooh, I'm watching this, everyone. We're getting yelled that. Yeah, oh, my gosh. See, I like this stuff. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, whatever that movie was.

The girl, I actually, the main actress agreed to come to an interview with us, and then her people got involved. involved and shut it down. If anyone's... I think we should know what that is. If anyone is anybody and you want to come on the show, just come on. Leave you people out of it. Yeah. Oh, dude, this looks creepy.

That actually happened twice. I got one of the actresses from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. The Redhead, Brad Pitt smashes her face. Oh, nice. She agreed to do an interview and then all of a sudden she was like here's the email to my people they need to speak to you first.

I was like, well, this interview's not happening. Yeah. Well, this looks good. A lot of, looks like there's going to be a lot of jump scares. You think it might be too many jump scares? Hopefully they just didn't show me the whole thing in the trailer. That's probably it. Which I hate when they do that.

They show you the whole movie. And then some trailers, you would show you the ending. Let's see. Synopsis follow. The movie follows Rebecca Owens, a mortuary science graduate who takes a night job at Riversfield's mortuary. What begins as routine jobs soon turns sinister as she faces terrifying supernatural forces. Yeah, it's kind of like that film without the girl is,

like a new cop and she goes to the precinct which is closing down what's that called? The last shift? Yeah that's it. Yeah that's it. Yeah that's you kind of get those vibes. That was really good, really good. Did you guys ever see the remake?

It was a remake? Yeah, that was really good really good as well. Yeah, Malam I think. Malum. Malum. 2023, I think, wasn't it? Yeah, I think the same director basically did a Sam Amy Evil Dead got a little bit more money and

Ray did it. Yeah. Yeah, it's good. Okay. Oh, I did see this one. Malam? When does this one come out? This one comes out February 13th in theaters and then I'm sure they'll

announce the shutter date after that. It does look like Evil Dead slash. Autopsy of Jane Doe thing. That was a good description. Yeah. Interesting. I'll watch it. All right. On to some listener

feedback this week. We're going to shine the podcast spotlight on Eternal Darkness of a Not-So-Spotless Mind. Hey. Hey. Hey. A film review podcast with a focused on horror movies and related topics hosted by

our buddy Matt here. And Kate. A couple of fools. chatting about horror and stuff. Thanks. All right. That's great, but we're not doing them anymore. Oh, no. Yeah, no.

Unfortunately, yeah, Kate's, check out the old ones. Yeah, no, unfortunately, it's really sad, but yeah, we've had to agree it to a close. Yeah, basically, Kate's work schedule has got to get too much because she started a new business. and she hasn't got time to do it unfortunately I mean she's gutted we're both gutted

but that's just life isn't it you know so understandable all good things come to an end go go check out their old episodes they're fantastic and Matt you're always welcome to come on anytime and maybe we'll make it kind thank you Brian absolutely

wish this space and yet some more feedback on the upcoming TV series of the bird um Ryan McDid that's probably not how you say that says rebooting original stories for the generation that never heard or even seen the originals uh Lee Matthews says the peacock original thing is a bit misleading yeah uh Randall Perkins says so stunning so brave classic I think that movie is going to make record breaking numbers streaming

just for the fact that people are going to hate watch it yeah yeah probably and then viewership will drop right after that all right and in regards to 28 years later the Bone Temple

Todd Haig says feels like this franchise has completely gone on off the rails. Watch the movie, then come talk to me. In regards to Deep Star 6, Richard Collins says,

I used to watch this all the time when I was a kid. Lorraine Lone says, fun movie, love the underwater horror flicks, watched it the other day. And Don Lowry says, loved this as a kid,

seeing that thing, bite buddy in half was something I wasn't expecting. Absolutely loved it. All right. And in regards to the 2006, Black Christmas. A good remake. That was the remake from the original.

Yeah. Pat Crusoe says, Not sure if it's coincidence. Only good remakes happen to be horror. My Bloody Valentine, Dawn of the Dead, Snyder's only good movie. Oh. The blob, Night of the Living Dead, the Fly,

and Black Christmas to name a personal few. and Nez stepped away for a second, but if he was here, he'd hold up his copy of 2019's Black Christmas. Maybe not wrong on those others, though. Yeah. He makes a valid point.

Mm-hmm. Because the remakes are definitely the better on, with the exception, maybe Dawn of the Dead, night of the Living Dead. just because it's hard to go against the originals. Yeah. But they were still solid.

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We fight zombies with our friend Matt this week, and 28 weeks later from 2007. We'll start with that. Six months after the... the rage virus was inflicted on the population of Great Britain, the U.S. Army helped secure a small area of London for the survivors to repopulate and start again. But not everything goes according to plan.

Director is Juan Carlos Fresnadeo, also known for last year's Damsel. Oh. The Millie Bobby Brown movie. Yeah. Not a bad one. Yeah. Uh, writers are one

Carlos Fresnadillo with Rowan Jaffe and Enrique Lopez Levine. All right. Um, the farm that Don and Alice hide out in the start of the film is the same farm that appears in

Children of Men from 2006. Huh. Nice fun. Oh. Uh, the boy who arrives at the cottage in the beginning of the film, claims to be from Sanford. Sanford is the name of a fake village

used by British police to train recruits and practice emergency preparedness drills. The street plans of which is based on Dundee, Scotland. Sanford is also the fictitious locale

for another action comedy Hot Fuzz. This may be an end joke based on the fact that the team behind Hot Buzz had previously made Sean of the Dead, a zombie comedy that poked fun at 28 days later by

dismissing rage infected monkeys as a source of its own zombie plague. By mentioning Sanford, the makers of 28 weeks later now seem to be returning the favor. A little back and forth. Sort of.

Matt, you know, start us out on 28 weeks later? Yeah. Sure. So, yeah, so this came out in 2007. This is my first watch. I've never seen this before. I've seen the original. It's got a big cast. But, yeah, for some reason, I didn't get around to watch on this.

And then, yeah, I watched it last night. I really quite enjoyed this one. It had all the rage zombie stuff. I kind of want. I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'll be honest, I'm not the biggest zombie movie fan. However, I find the rage zombie, you know, the fast zombie,

quite exhilarating, you know, it's pretty intense. It creates, yeah, creates a vibe that makes people anxious because it's so fast-paced you're like, oh shit, what's going to happen next? What's going to happen next? And it's, you know, the film's really intense

in that respect. Yeah, I like the characters, like the story and how it went. Yeah, visually, really quite impressive. Yeah, I see it. I really quite enjoyed it. Yeah, that's all I can say right now without any, well, spoilers, 2007,

but I won't spoil it. I won't spoil it. Okay. until like uh niz what do you think i like this one i thought it was uh it was more of a movie movie not like how the the first one was indie and the way they filmed it all they got more actors that that we knew yeah yeah so i mean i really love what was going on this my favorite part in the whole film was the very beginning with um that guy's only gazo to me from uh for for the full Monty.

Robert Collar. Yeah, but the beginning, man, that was like horrific and sad. And what would you do if you were in that situation? And the way the rage virus, I'm watching this, the way the rage virus affects you so quickly, like instantly pretty much. It was crazy. And then as we find out the whole city is quarantined and there's this part of the city where we can't go and the military's involved.

We got Hawkeye and we've got, what's his nuts? Edress. Like gentlemen, Edress, we got him. Oh, Edgerson. And what's your name from Insidious and all that? So, but I thought it was really good. I liked what was going on.

There was, of course, there was a bigger budget in this. So we got more scenery. And then at the end, yeah, it's not much of a spoiler. It just came out years ago. I liked what they did. I liked how it pretty much it continued from the first story and then just rolled right into this.

But yeah, I really liked this one. I thought it was awesome. Okay. Brian, what do you think? Yeah, I agree with everybody. I like this one too. The cast was good. Robert Carlyle, Rose Byrne, Jeremy Renner,

Idris Alba. The one guy that pops up in everything, Harold Peronaut, he was the helicopter pilot. Oh, okay. Yeah. And Imogen Putes acting in a real movie. Oh, yeah, yeah. In a real movie, not the Black Christmas remake. I like that one, Matt.

She wasn't terrible in the movie. The writers were. I like that they're kind of progressing a story along because you got Roseburn who kind of plays a cliche character, the doctor who is trying to warn people. has the facts but nobody's listening to her. And one of my favorite scenes is, which I have a question

to ask you guys. One of my favorite scene is when they find out Robert Carlisle's wife is still alive and they bring her back and he sneaks in to see her and he kisses her and the saliva from her mouth instantly infects him. I thought she bit him. No.

It's not. Oh, okay. Did she do that on purpose? I think so. Because when he's... It seemed like it. Flipping out on the floor, she kind of has like this look on her face. Like that's what you gave.

Yeah. Yeah. She got that. Yeah. You left me. You left me look. Yeah. Which turns real violent for her because he just beats her and then shows both his thumbs in her eyes.

Which says he always sticks out to me. And then another scene that's still. sticks out to me is Hawkeye, Jeremy Renner, does not make it to the end of the movie. He meets the end of some flamethrowers trying to help them escape.

That was quite surprising. I wasn't expected that, to be fair. Yeah, Roseburn doesn't make it either. Well, he's always got to be the one to sacrifice himself. Yeah. Here's the question for you. I only asked this because I was

I got off early from work the other day and I was trying to hurry and get to Costco before it closed. I didn't want to wait for the shuttle so I was kind of just jogging along. I'm a fat guy, boys and girls. And then what came into my head as I was kind of trotting along,

I was like, what if there was a zombie outbreak and all this? And like they said, and I was the zombie land, the fatties went first? Do you think you guys, as much as running as

do with these fast zombie movies. Like at the beginning of this, when Gazzo's running from the house, and then he's just hauling ass. There's a whole group behind him. And then another group comes over the hills. So there's probably like about 30 of them running after him. Do you guys think you have the will and the strength to outrun a mob of infected? No anymore.

I have bad joints. I was going to say, man, I'm older than I used to be. my best scenario is probably try to fight it out the best I could yeah yeah same I've got ammo for that

yeah it depends on how many if there's a mob I'm just all right man I'm gonna jump off something and kill myself as far as running oh man

I was huffing and puffing just jogging to the parking lot and I don't think I don't think I don't think I don't think I'd make it. Like they said, the fatties went first.

I'd fight them like the alpha from the new one. I'd take as many as I could with me. So. Looking up stuff for this movie, I found out, have you guys heard about how much money this movie lost on marketing?

They did? No. No. Because they had a street team basically spray paint the logo of the movie with a website address. and they spray painted it all over the city in different areas.

Come to find out they didn't own the website yet. So somebody that looked up the website, realized they didn't own it and he bought it for basically nothing. And they had to like negotiate a deal to buy it back from him. Not even buy it back because they never even owned it. dude smart guy yeah yeah

you should have thought about that before you started doing that yeah definitely definitely true maybe you set up the website before you start paying people to advertise it all right Phil

what did you think about it it's all right it may be my least favorite 28 whatever later movie but That doesn't mean it's not good. It did have a killer cast.

It was definitely more of a Hollywood production movie than the very indie-ish original one. But I liked it. I think it was solid. All of these movies are pretty good as far as zombie movies go. And this one's got the cast and the story to back it up. I do, it is slightly forgetful, though. I don't know. I just remember the beginning.

I didn't, I didn't rewatch this, but I've seen it enough times. And the beginning stuck out to me the most. Yeah, watching. Yes. Yeah. Because I rewatch these with the first one and the first 28 years later, because I kind of went through the series before we got to the new one with my daughter. Yeah.

And this one, you don't really need to watch it to go. along with the overall story of the franchise. It's kind of like a side story. It is. It doesn't really have anything to do with the rest of it. This is the Tokyo Drift of the series. Yeah, that's a good one, though. Tokyo Dr. Dr. was hell of good. I know.

Tokyo Drift was hell of good. I mean, I liked what they did here because, I mean, just the way the first one ended, we're like, so did they make it? I mean, well, what happened? How we got to see is an airplane up in the sky. that was flying over over the little help sign gives you a little extra lore but a but a good a good a good solid bubble of a movie and uh i think i think it works that way yeah i think it yeah it tied up a lot of loose ends from the first but then it also looked like they were going to set it up for um you know 28 months later in paris yeah did you get that you know at the end yeah and i thought okay well what happened to that film. Where did that go? Obviously, they shelved it all just...

Yeah. I spent too much money and casting on this one. Yeah, because at the end, we see them all, the infected all running towards the Eiffel Tower. So... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I would like to see... Did it reach America, or did it just stay over there?

So that's what I wanted to know. I mean, Zach Snyder's Dawn of the Dead. If you watch all the extras on the Blu-ray or DVD, whichever one you have, they showed like a little fake news thing on how it infected. And it just spread throughout the world super fast. So in that film, it was happening all over the world. I wanted to know, did this somehow make it to America or other parts of the world?

So, I mean, I don't know. because they never really mentioned like America. Well, if it gets, if the infection goes that fast, it might be pretty easy to contain, I would think. And I'm one of the few, I don't really think these are zombie movies. They're just more of an infected people because they weren't really eating anyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we'll come back to that when we talk about the new one.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because they technically, they don't, they don't get the virus. die and come back. Yeah. They just change. It's not like if you sprinkled the virus on

injected into a dead body. It was going to bring the body back to life. It was just like it was living. The virus was living through living people. And that's how they were. Did they? Yeah.

Did they rip anybody apart? No. I don't think so. Can you can you just? stab them or make them bleed out and then they die and go away. It was pretty much like that. I mean, they didn't, they weren't like superpowered until

20 years later with the alpha. It was more like a real life take on what a zombie infestation might be. It was, it was just like that infection, the rage virus that they made and it just made you crazy and

spit blood all over everyone. They might, they would, they, They were biting people, but they weren't eating anyone because the mom in this one, she had that bite mark on her arm. Or she had bite marks all over her. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't like take.

They were just infecting you. They weren't like taking chunks out of you. It was more like rabies, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Because in some of these movies, when they bite somebody, they're not munching down on them. They just bite them and then they go to the next person. Well, rabies is about the closest real.

thing we have to zombies so I think that makes sense well it made um what was that monkey's name ben it primate it made it go crazy all right scores matt what do you think uh i'm gonna go for right well so i don't know if you know my scoring i'm harser the most uh but i'm gonna give it seven out 10 so probably 7 out of 10 is more likely to be an 8 out of 10 for everybody else if that makes sense fair enough no i enjoyed it i'll go up a point more i'll give it an 8 i enjoyed the whole movie there you haven't i thought everybody was good and i was entertained um i would put it in the order on how they came out i love the first one and then this one um i would have liked the 28 months later but yeah i don't know that just seemed to just fall apart but i was glad that they came back to

it all these years later but this one uh it was just continuation it wasn't continuation for our heroes from the first film but it was more of just this this is happening in other parts of the uk so yeah i was like cool i like what was going on yeah the overall story of course of how it went wild and then they kind of calmed it down to where we can kind of go back to somewhat of a normal life before all hell broke loose again. So I like it. They said, yeah, they said they'd starved, hadn't they? Yeah, because at the end of the last one, yeah, they said they were starving and just dying.

So I figured, but I assume somewhere along the way, it just kept infecting people before maybe those people's dropped. They got affected by someone and then, you know how it goes. Yeah, yeah. All right, Brian? Yeah, I'm going to meet you guys right in the middle with a seven and a half. I thought the cast was great. But I do think you don't need to watch this movie in the overall franchise story. I mean, it's a good watch, but if you're going into it thinking stuff is going to carry on in the other movies,

it doesn't really happen like that. But it's still a good watch, though, seven and a half. Yeah, separate little side movies. I'm gonna give it a 7 That was good Definitely good This whole series is pretty freaking solid Um

Again I end This one's pretty awesome And it's my least favorite one So there's that That's a good sign All right On to 28 years later The Bone Temple

From right now 26 As Spike is inducted into to Jimmy Crystal's gang on the mainland. Dr. Kelson makes a discovery that could alter the world. Director and writer is Ni Acosta, also known for Candyman and Little Woods. The voiceover in the trailer is the writer and futurist Arthur C. Clark, taken from his appearance on the BBC Horizon program on September 21st, 1964.

Okay. The Bone Temple set was constructed from around 5,500 skulls and 150,000 bones, each of which was individually cast, attached to 1,000 uprights or columns. I would assume cast as in, like, their fake columns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would hope. Disappoints me. Well, you know, you always think about the poltergeist thing where they use the real bones. That's true.

All right, Matt, what did you think about the new one? I'm coming in as the lance of the show, I think. Oh, no. I'm afraid so. didn't like this. I didn't like the last one either. Yeah, that one was all right. For me, okay, for me,

I just don't like the direction that both of them have gone in. I think, yeah, this whole temple thing is bollocks. The whole fucking alpha male is bollocks. the whole Jimmy Saville thing what the fuck are we doing I don't get it

I don't know why they're utilizing that in the film there's no sense I will get to that we'll get to that unless you want to talk about it now explain to us the Jimmy Saville thing who is this the one they based it off of okay Jimmy Saville was a TV

personality who came to the forefront in the in the 70s really he used to do a show called Top of the Pops which is like a music show where you know music was was played live and there'd be like people dancing but even on there he would be on the show and he'd be like touching the girls asses and doing stuff like live on camera but it was like oh it's Jimmy it's Jimmy and then he did this show called Jim Will Fix It, where basically kids would write in and get him to do good deeds for them. Like, oh, could you fix it for me to go in a helicopter or meet some famous star or something? And he would do this show and he would get these things done.

And then he'd had these children kind of like around him, like sat on his lap. It's fucking creepy. anyway he got he was really popular um but and he got in with the royals the royal family they were kind of saying how great he was uh they started giving him keys to hospitals because he was doing all this charity stuff uh for kids in need handicapped children uh and stuff but anyway what transpired and he was quite open about this and people weren't really taking on board. He was a massive, massive paedophile.

I mean, just literally all the time. He was getting kids in. It was just, it was fucking horrendous. And the BBC covered it up. Or just kind of like, they kind of knew about it. And they kind of, yeah, they hushed it up. So there's a real big fucking thing. And he was mates of Rolf Harris,

who's the Australian singer who did the art thing. He was also a paedophile. Gary Glitter. There was a big pedophile ring and anyway, Jimmy Saville was like, you know,

like the head and he... The Epstein from back in the day. Yeah, basically, yeah, but he only died six, six years ago.

Just, he died just as he was, I think, you know, it all basically came out. Did he have that crazy blonde hair? So yeah, so he did. He had that kind of crazy blonde hair.

He used to wear the tracksuits. Oh. And he used to wear sort of jingly, jangly chains. He's going, now, then, now then. So, yeah, so that's Jimmy Saville, the fucking nonce. Anyway. Here's another question. What is it that he said in the movie?

Okay. What's that? How's that? Oh, how's that? How's that? How's that? That is that. that is a cricket term

so I don't know why that was used that makes absolutely no sense because he didn't say that this goes with my theory that he knew of this person and maybe things that he did

and he picked this as a costume to show how evil and to be feared he was because I think you're probably right I think you're probably right I think he basically just like, it's evil personified.

Yeah, there you go. And yeah, I think, I think you're absolutely right. I think that's a connection. Obviously, he wants to be with Old Nick, you know, Satan. So I think,

I think you're probably right in that respect. Why they're using Jimmy Saville, you know, I have no idea. I think it's a bit, bit twisted to use him, as a caricature in a film personally just because I know what the guy did

did you see the movie before you saw the Jimmy character at the end before you knew he was in it the last movie yeah the last movie oh I see so when yeah at the end yeah obviously the Jimmy jumps out with his jimmies and I was just like

what the fuck that looks like Jimmy Saville why what is going on with this I don't get it and then and then obviously left the cinema and I was like looking online going okay so Jimmy Sable what the fuck it it is Jimmy Sable what what the fuck is going on I just didn't understand why that was being

utilized so they made an argument in this movie well okay so yeah there are a bunch of bunch of assholes anyway back to my opinion look I think

I think the film is produced very well I think it's shot very well some of the shots were fantastic the cinematography really good and use of the cameras and stuff the gore is pretty

decent this is the stuff that I like I want to see stuff getting ripped up and stuff I don't think they used the rage virus enough in that

I wanted to see the hordes of the infected. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's why I know I don't even like zombie rage films but that's what I wanted and then I think this they kind of distracted from the original story so much and they're just you know they're basically taking the concept and then just going around, well, how can we modernize it? I mean, I understand that. You need to,

you need to change things and need to make it different. I just don't like the direction that they've gone in. I just like, what are we doing? What are we doing? I mean, the whole thing with old Nick, or whatever, what was his character's name?

Dr. Ian? Ralph, Ralph, yeah, Dr. Ian. I mean, what was that? That whole bromance thing. So I don't want to go into spoilers, but really yeah.

Yeah, I don't want to go into spoilers, but yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I don't want to go into spoilers too much, but yeah, not for me, this one. Okay. Nez, what do you think?

I'm sorry, man, but I thought this one was fucking awesome. I thought so. I didn't know the, the, the, the behind the Jimmy stuff. I knew people were upset about it and why did they choose the imagery for him for the Jimmy in this film and the rest of the Jimmy's? I didn't know any of that.

I did some reading. I mean, you kind of went a little more on what I read. So, yes, that's terrible. I don't understand why the directors did go that route. But as far as the real Jimmy being that evil person and the Jimmy, the jimmies, in the movie to see how evil they were. Because at the last one, they left us off, who are these guys?

I mean, we figured out that that was the Jimmy in the beginning of the film on the first one. And then at the end, we're like, what the hell? Who are these guys? The tracksuit mafia. Parkour track suit ninjas. I was like, who the hell are these dudes?

And then the movie was over. But when this one rolled in and what they were doing on how evil they were, I was like, whoa, okay. And then also knowing about who they portrayed it on, I was like, oh, okay, yeah, that's, that's eerie. I think here in America, they probably did like, eh, whatever, didn't take it as much as over there where you're at to where you guys were like, ah, because I'm, some of, I was watching TikTok videos from people over there. And they were, oh, man, why? And they were like, mad, boycott this movie.

And I was like, whoa. So they do portray him as the son of old Nick, who I've never heard of Old Nick, but I guess is that like a common thing in England? In the UK? No, not really. I mean, I knew what he meant. I thought he was talking about Santa Claus.

I know. I did think that first. It didn't click Old Nick until he had the conversation with Ray Fines, and I was like, Oh. I was like, I don't get it, but all right. Jack O'Connell, I mean, he was awesome as sinners and other things I've seen him in. But this was his movie to shine.

Yeah. And to be that. Oh, is this the guy from sinners? I knew I recognized him. I just couldn't figure out where. I liked him more than in sinners. Yeah, me too. He was like, oh, my God, who is this guy?

And why is he this way? But, I mean, we don't know what happened to him between being a little boy up to this point on what he went through to survive and everything to do what he does, to manipulate and basically brainwash the whole Jimmy game to get them to do everything that was going on. Spike, I was happy that, because at the end of the first one, we do leave off with him. we find out more, okay, this is what happened to Spike what he got involved in and then Dr. Kelston, Ray finds to

see a little more of his backstory. They do get some flashbacks. They're showing this in the trailer so it's not a spoiler. So I was like, all right, because we got just a little bit of him in the last film. And I was like, is he an evil person? Is this just some guy that's just killing people and making

this bone temple? But, I mean, they explained a little more on that. Then we see why he's doing what he's doing here. So I liked all that. And the music choices that they use throughout the film, I thought they hit good. We'll talk about that and spoilers. But as far as the Samson character,

I was kind of like, why do we have these new brand of infected people? the slow-mo's. Get that man some pants. Did they like change it up because it wasn't as big as it was. It wasn't as big as it wasn't a first bowl.

And why did I notice that? Because I had watched the first right before I went into the theater. It seemed that I was like, hey, did it shrink? It must have been good. Okay. But it got cold. Because they were showing it a little more

in this one, especially when he was just standing there. And it's like right there on that big XD screen. But I was like, why are there's alphas and this and that now and the slow mo's? But they did say that one that the rage infected

mutated into other things. And it just kind of. It was basically like steroids to some. Yeah. Because I wanted to know, was Samson already a big giant dude like that? Or did the rage virus make him? Well, he seemed to get all the steroids.

Because nobody else was as big as him. Yeah. Yeah, but he looked like, because, well, I guess we'll get into it. And in the, we'll get into it in spoilers. I can't realize. I like that we saw a backstory of Samson. I didn't know we were going to get that. So I was like, okay, cool.

And all the scenes with Samson and Dr. Kelson, I liked all that part. Yeah, like you said. I'm at the bromance part. I didn't mind that. Okay, fair enough. I liked it. But it was kind of like, the doctor's out there by himself.

And this is like the only person, Samson, like, that he can call a friend. I mean, we'll talk more about in spoilers. So I was like, okay, because we see some of it in the trailer. So I was like, all right, what they're doing here? And the way it ended, I knew it was coming to an end. But then I went. when the directed by whoever came up onto the screen. So when is the next one coming on?

Is that later this year? They just only announced that they're moving forward with making the third one. They haven't started filming it. Oh, I thought they made all three of them. No, they just meant the first two. Ah, man. It'd have been better if they just made one big movie and chopped it up. I know.

Just enough to watch it be. But I mean, but overall, I walked out of the theater like, man, that was awesome. I can't wait to see this again. I did, I mean, other than what was happening on the screen and everything, I teared up during one scene. And I was like, oh, man, it's a horror movie. Why am I crying? So I was like, I liked what was going on. It was way better than the first chapter.

That one was okay. And I rewatched it. Shout out to the horror virgin. They did it for one of their episodes. And they did mention that there was a lot of talking boring parts that could have went just a minute instead of two or three minutes scenes. Mainly was spike in his mom. There was a lot of that. Like, okay, I get it. You love your mom.

We're trying to help her. But I'm like, next, you could have been showing more slowmos or more of the alphas running around or just the regular infected. but I don't know I'd or give me more kick ass I'm hoping he comes back at some point in the third movie so but I don't know but what we got in this one I left the theater like man

that was awesome I immediately text uh the Zisu shout out to my boy from the East Society happy belated birthday brother I had texted him usually because we like January is like a slow month for movies but I had texted dude, I already got my first best-of movie of 2026 on my list right now.

And he's like, all right, I'll go see it. But yeah, I left the theater like, man, this is awesome. I can't wait to see it again. All right. Brian, what do you think? Sorry, Matt. I have to agree with that. I know, I know.

But I, I don't know on this one. I hear what you're saying, how the rage zombies, the infected are kind of like a sideline and a backstory to everything. thing. They're basically walking dead this movie franchise. It's more about the characters, the people. And knowing that, I'm kind of just

on board with it now, because that's the direction they're going, then I'm just going to accept it. Yeah. And I like the progression of Spike. Like Nez said, we continued with his story. I thought

Jack O'Connell as Jimmy, Sir Jimmy Crystal, I thought he knocked it out the part. Now knowing what the character based on, it is horrible. If it was me writing the movie, I would have not even went that direction.

But as a character, I thought he knocked it out the part. I do have one hang up with him. And we'll get to that in spoilers. I like the jimmies, who my daughter, because I was like, how do you know which Jimmy is which? And she pointed out they all have like,

one's like Jemina and others like, Jimmy Fox and one unfortunate kid was Jimmy Shite. So. Well, a few of them all kind of blended in and then there were like a couple of girls who stood out.

And I like the progression of the alpha character and I do have some thoughts about his relationship with Dr. Ian. And I thought, I do agree with you at the cinematography. and everything was shot incredibly.

I thought Nia Dacosta, I think this movie, her directing this movie upgraded from the original one because I rewatched the first one, the 28 years later. And my score, I think I gave it a seven. I think I'm a first one.

Yeah, I think I'm going to bump it down to like a six. Okay. Because it was a little boring at times. Yeah, I can understand that. But I thought this was, this one was an upgrade. for everything that first one was trying to do.

Yeah. And I really enjoyed it. Yeah. I agree, man. I loved the romance part. Anything that Nick Fines was, or that Ray Fines was in, like I was,

those were the parts that I was waiting on. Because I was curious. I was curious with him, you know, to see what was happening. Like, is this guy going to snap and break him in half here in a second? or like are they becoming friends like is it going to get better of us

cure yeah well that I mean I was saying a lonely guy out there you know big somebody take here we go um wow but uh I thought I thought I thought those scenes were were pretty awesome uh the jimmies Like, I love to hate them. And so I thought they did a really good job of casting the good ones versus the bad ones. And the soundtrack was amazing. There's a scene towards the end that we'll talk about in spoilers. That was basically a music video and was amazing.

I was jamming. But yeah, man, I died. I was, this might be my favorite one so far. I really like this movie. Yep. All right. Scores. Matt,

what do you think? 5.5. 5.5. Nez. No, this is hella good. This was 10. This was 10 all the way. 10. Wow.

Yeah. Brian? I'm at an 8. Yeah. I don't bring us back to reality. I'm in an 8, too. Yeah, had a really good time with this one. This will probably be top 10 of the year.

Yep. Not number one, but it'll be up there. All right. Spoilers. Excuse me. Spoiler alert. Yeah. What I was saying about Jimmy,

my one hang up with him was he was so feared by the other Jimmies, the fingers, as he called him. but we never saw why because everybody did everything for him yeah I was like why has one of these not like murdered him yet I mean we had one what was there Aaron Kellerman played Jimmy Inc

the girl that was kind of like are you full of shit yeah she's like the the good one right the one that left was Spike at then yeah yeah yeah yeah we had you know oh Jimmy Inc. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she was

the only one question in anything. Yeah. And I was just kind of, I was telling my daughter after the movie finished, I was like, other than stabbing Dr. Ian, he didn't do anything. I mean, he was menacing, he was evil, but he didn't show me why

the other ones were so scared of him and scared to Satan, his father. That's a good point. maybe like all bullies really they just kind of they just put themselves on people and just scare people just by being assholes yeah I don't know maybe it's just like that kind of dark charisma as it were

just kind of scaring people into into obeying I guess yeah because when they when they come across a new person that they might add you have to fight your way in you have to kill whoever you pick to fight and replace them and everybody's just I'm just watching I'm just like why is everybody going along with this

they're wearing the track suits with the wigs and they're taking orders from a guy with the tiara on his head yeah there was that point when he was laying down laying down with the binoculars

and I thought God somebody could just go up just slash his throat yeah yeah I thought that's when what's her name was going to take her turn because when he looked at

Dr. Ian with the binoculars she said she noticed that he's never seen that man before in his life. Yeah. And I was like, okay, now you're realizing he's full of shit and everything he's saying, why ain't you doing anything about it?

When he's down there talking to Dr. Ian, why are you stopping Spike from leaving? Yeah, they could have all just walked off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very true. Well, and from the very beginning, when he stabbed that dude in the leg and like, nobody seemed to give a shit. Well, that one guy did that tried to kill Spike later. Well, like, yeah.

He said that was my best mate. That was his buddy. But like, what about the rest of the jimmies? As the rest of the jimmies, do you not look at that and go, oh, he doesn't give a shit about us. Why am I doing this? He was just pumping fear into them. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, that's why whatever he, how he manipulated all of them, he was, what's her nuts? The girl from Solo, Jimmy Inc. she um she was kind of like i'm gonna ride this is not how i took it she i'm gonna ride along with him for him to get me to where maybe i can run off but i think those other guys were more scared of what jimmy because he did have i mean if jimmy because boy he was telling those guys

all right now do this do this some of a couple of them they didn't even hesitate well he had they they were bought into the cult yeah i think she stuck around because i think she part of her wanted to believe wanted to believe in something like but then maybe this

yeah sorry Spike came along and gave her a little more hope because he we could obviously clearly see he didn't want to do any of it during that one scene when they were going to kill that family

in that house he like ran outside and started throwing up. Spike came made for this world I don't know well I think she was like, man, he's just a kid. He wasn't about that life. What are you doing? Like the other guys. Yeah.

Yeah. But I think they all enjoyed being badass, though. I think they enjoyed it. Yeah. I mean, I mean, even Jimmy Inc. I mean, she had an inverted cross, you know, scraped into her skin. Mm-hmm. No, nobody does that unless you're fucking asshole.

Yeah. It's like, you know, they mix Charlie Mansion. and Jimmy Saville. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But the music is the one I want to talk about. They had that number of the beast maiden scene at the end where they played almost the entire song.

Yeah, that was cool. That was good. So great. It was so great. Like I liked all the musical scenes leading up to it. They had like some Duran Duran and stuff. they're right very very british uh but then they ray find's character was

supposed to be old nick the devil right and so he's like all right well let's let's play it up if i'm gonna do it let's do it and so he put on this whole fucking performance of uh good thing he had that little over the beast goth looking yeah overcoat the fire spinning and shit at the it was just he looked like it was completely he did it was completely unnecessary, but it was such a cool scene. I like after he got stabbed and she realized he's not Satan.

Yeah. He was like, you still put on a good joke. And he was like, well, thank you. Yeah. I mean, the use of Duran Duran, Rio and ordinary world. Because if we see the doctor when he's walking along in the beginning, he's singing Rio. Yeah. And then when he gets back to his little, uh, his little.

little layer he pulls out the i can't remember which album it was from duran duran he puts it on i like that but that scene when it was him the doctor and samson and they had ordinary world planned that's the part that got me i loved what we were seeing and i just i love that song it's great song and i was sitting there that's what i was like oh my god that's when the tears started coming out that was a 90s song less yeah so i was like oh my god but yeah at the end of the end of the end of when he was preparing, he walked over to his albums, and then he pulled out Maidens' number of the beats. I was like, fuck yeah.

Yeah. The way he used it for them, when the Jimies came rolling in, and it did that intro to the song, I went, oh, my God, and then it just rolled right into the song. I was singing. I was, too.

I don't think there was a good amount of people in the audience. a bunch of young kids and some older people. I don't think they even listen to Maiden, much less know that song. But I was singing along that whole time. And when it came to six, six, six, I had the horns up and everything. That was one of my favorite bands of all time.

I love that song. I've got a question. I've got a question. Did Dr. Ian, did he blow some kind of drug or something into the, I mean, wait, yes. It's something. Like a hallucinogen in their face.

Okay, yeah, yeah. Although that seems like it would have been the perfect opportunity to take that motherfucker out. That's what I thought he was going to do. I thought he was going to drug him. I didn't think he was going to do that because despite what the world's gone through and everything that he's been through himself, he's still a doctor.

But I thought he was, he knew they were coming to something bad was going to happen. It was about to go sideways. I thought he blew that on them to put them in that little hallucinated state that the way Samson was, not so much as being just doped up on opium. But I was like, like, okay, let me get them a little high so I can go in there and take them out if I have to. I thought they were going to be in that state. I think it just kind of maybe took the little edge off them and how they felt. That was it. But then, because once they sprung into action, it was like, no.

No, I felt like he was a doctor all the way up to the point where he tried to change the deal and said, I need a sacrifice. And he told Jimmy Crystal that it's going to be you. And it's not me that's going to kill you. It's going to be one of them. Yeah, because I mean, I knew one of them was going to go down. So I was like, oh, man, that was, it was good. It was sad.

And Spike, he was just, he knew who that. doctor was and he just kept his mask on but then when the doctor looked over at him and saw his eyes and realized hey that's spike and he went over and then he got shanked I was like oh I was hoping he would like make

it out of there somehow but so now he seems to have found some sort of half-ass cure yes that now he's dead no one yeah it's I mean it basically cured

20 weeks later I don't think it cared him It cared him of his symptoms But he still carries the virus Yeah, I mean Because if you remember his eyes were like blood red But then when he was in the train When he had that flashback

And when he was a kid And when he started talking When the lady came up and asked him If he had a ticket And he goes, no, I don't have a ticket And that's when he realized all those other Infected people were in there I was cool

I did like the fact that we got the see what the infected sees. Yeah. They just see everybody, like, everybody is angry and rageful like them. And that's all they see. Even people that are not infected, that's what they see. Well, but like the more, the more close to reality he got in the further along in the movie, Samson got smaller.

Like, he wasn't as swollen or purple. He was still fucking up people. Yeah, no, he was still fucking people up. He was breaking backs and ripping arms off. Yeah. still a monster, but he looked like he was 250 pounds instead of 350. That one bit into his shoulder

and took like a big chunk out of it. And he was wearing a loin cloth. He, as he was looking more human until the end when he started tear the other fuckers up again. I mean, because, I mean, I assumed he was getting back to somewhat normal because

usually the infected, noly infected, and they'll leave you alone. They were all looking at him. like, is he? We're not really sure because, like I said, his eyes were all red in the beginning. And then when he was, before he started to talk, his eyes looked normal. But he still had that strength. Then I'm a kick ass.

And that's when he just took out all, everybody on that train, which was awesome. I was hoping he was going to get there and mess up the jimmies. I was waiting for him to come charging in. Yeah. It didn't happen. Is Jimmy Crystal dead? I don't think so. I don't, we don't know.

We just see him hanging upside down for the sacrifice. But that was no joke, man. They nailed those. Why? Those train. Yeah. They straight up crucified him upside down. He had already been stabbed where Jesus got stabbed with the, with the spear.

Yeah. Has he lost it? Because he saw Samson as if he was Satan. well if if you were looking for a Satan walking around the world that'd be I mean the one right there plus maybe the drugs that they were the drugs yeah yeah yeah that's what he visions because uh yeah the way samson came in with a look like that dude and um what was that tom cruise movie legend yeah darkness yeah he looked like that um and he was like father why have you forsaken me it was great dude yeah that he would and then yeah

when we see Jimmy hanging upside down and we just see Samson come on the screen like really quick. I mean, so I wanted to know I don't think he's dead. I mean, I don't think Samson is how he is now. Like he's still infected, but he's

he can talk and he can see better. Oh no, is he going to have a resurrection? I kind of had a feeling maybe in this next one if they do go back to those characters. He's infected now. He's infected now. And he's going to have his own little demonic resurrection.

So I'm hoping that they at least go back and finish and let us see about Jimmy. Because I don't think he's dead. We didn't see the guy. I think they're going to go a different direction. I think with the way they set it up at the very, very end with Killian Murphy, I think that had more of a feel to the original films. I think they may go with it a completely different director again, and they may go down a different route, like the old school route.

Yeah, the Jimmy's may just be done. That may just be a little piece in this adventure story for Spike. Because, I mean, the majority of his crew, his fingers, they all died. Jimmy, I know Jimmy's still alive, but Jimmy Inc. and Spike when they went running off. And then I was like, oh, my God. is this Jim and then Jim walks onto the screen. We see that, um, that little young black girl.

And I assume Selena's not around anymore. The, the girl from the first movie. Because at the end, it was a Selena, uh, Jim. And I can't remember a little white girl's name.

The, the one that survived. Um, anyway, her, I assume maybe she just went on. I kind of have the feeling that Selena died. Um,

and then that, That was their daughter, so Jim was raising them. Because that wasn't the house that they were in at the end of the last one. Yeah, because weren't they on like an island or something in the last one? No, they were, they just went out into the country, like way, way, way far away from everything. Because that's when they said, oh, the, the infected just died out because they didn't have, I guess, food or whatever. On that road that we see, we see them. Wasn't there a plane?

Wasn't there a plane flying in? Yeah. Yeah. So to see Jim pop on there and then they hear screaming and then they look outside and they break out the binoculars or that periscope or whatever, I thought the way it ended was amazing. We start to hear that music from the first film, the end to end music. And then when she was like, are we going to help them? Anyway, yeah, they walk off the camera and then boom, the movie was over. that's when I went ah

so we're gonna get Jim Jim comes back I know a lot of people thought that that little skinny dead looking infected person in the first chapter everyone thought that was Jim

I did too looks like him but it wasn't him so it's good to see them they show him really quick it's when Spike and his mom were walking across some field and she's talking to Spike

and we see this infected guy coming out of the And it looked just it looked just like Jim. Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Everyone thought that was him. I did too. Because when they announced, yeah, he's going to, he's coming back as well for

for this. I didn't, I thought that was him, but it wasn't. So to see Jim come back and to see that his daughter and it's been 28 years later. So I would say she's, who know, maybe 12, 13, if that. But to see what they're going to do, I thought they made all three movies. already because or did they just make these two and one and then we'll see how two does before we make the third one so but well that's the plan they were going to see how to this this one does but before this one came out they went ahead and greenlit the third one because i i can't i can't

wait for for the next one will it be as good my opinion as good as this one i want it to be But I don't know. I mean, again, I'm happy that the gym character, Killian Murphy, Academy Award winner, Killian Murphy comes back in this. Because I want to hear how he survived all this time. Well, it looks like he's going to be a main character in the third one. And Danny Boyle's going to come back to direct this next one. Oh, cool. Did they shoot this one as well with iPhones?

I think so. The combination of iPhones. regular cameras. Very cool. I watched the making on how they did the first one, and it was all iPhones, except for the drone shots that they did. It was crazy.

It was, I thought this one was, I wanted the first chapter to be like, oh, man, it was good. I was just like, it was all right. I saw it twice in the theater. But this one,

I went in. I don't believe the hype when they go, oh man, it's one of the greatest movies ever. I'm like, we just started the year. What are you talking about? And when they have all these show these videos of people, they got to go to the advanced screenings coming like, oh my God, it was so

scary. It was awesome and all that. I'm like, I don't believe any of that. I'm just, I'm going and watch it, and I left the theater like, damn, that was good. They did not use no iPhone for this one. Oh, they didn't? No. That Iron Maiden scene was worth at least two points on its own.

That was so great. That was amazing. I couldn't believe it. Inside of me, when I saw, okay, he's got the number of the beast album. Yeah. Obviously, they're going to play 6666. Yeah. The Beast song.

I didn't know it was going to start off with the intro. Because when the intro started, I went, oh. I got the. Like, when we watched, what was the show that that came from? That 60s spy show. fuck I don't know we did a whole thing on it we watched it for the for the show oh the one where he gets like sent to that island or whatever he's on like an island it's like the 60 spy thing that's where that that's where that audio comes from is from that

show okay and I remember watching that show and going oh that's where it came from from but it's that whole that whole front loaded scene on the on the Number of the Beast song. I mean, other things, too, what made me think about it after was, the world is going to hell,

and you're trying to survive. Damn, it was awesome that he grabbed. I mean, who knows, maybe he found it during his, his scavenger running around from finding things. To find a vinyl,

a vinyl print of a number of the bees. Pick up some records and some books and some morphine and, you're good to go. Kick back. Yeah, and that whole Samson getting addicted to morphine Coming back and just tripping out the whole time I was like he's gonna moon

Get just like he got addicted Because he kept coming back for more more I think he wanted to be addicted Because I think he was making him feel something other than rage Yeah, because that first time that he had talked I mean that scene was sad Because the doctor was raised to kill him.

He was like, look, man, I'm, I can't keep giving you this. This is my supply for when I need it. He wasn't using it to get high. He was just, I think he got high because Samson was here because I want to be high with you. But I was like, that's kind of iffy, bro. What if he comes out of it before you do? Right. Well, at that point, he's been alone for a long time.

What's the worst that's going to happen? He gets killed. I thought, I thought he had. basically made peace and he's basically inducing himself with morphine expecting Samson to kill him while he was out of it. Yeah.

Basically, if he kills me, he kills me. If he doesn't, he doesn't. Right. I think he was quite surprised that he hadn't. Yeah, that whole back and forth bromance scenes with them. I loved all of that. And like I said, to throw in Duran Duran on top of those

scenes. I was like, oh man. And those were like amazing shots, wide shots. Yeah. Out where they were, out in the countryside of the Bone Temple and everything. So I was like, man, this, this movie was awesome. So, but I mean, yeah, I mean, I gave it a 10. I loved it. I can't wait to go see it again. My son wants to see it. He saw the, he saw the first movie, and he's seen the first chapter of this. So he's excited to go see this one. So probably go see it when he comes back from visiting his brother. But yeah, this movie was awesome. I loved it.

Nice. Well, all right, boys and girls. I assume that's it. So, everyone. Yeah, I got a call happening in the background. Can you all hear that? Yeah, that's all right. Oh, my bad.

Matt, thanks for coming on. No, nice. I'm sure it's late on your part of the world. You better go to bed. It's 1 a.m. Just come up to 1 a.m. All right. You better go to bed.

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