The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #505: Silent Hill (2006) & Return To Silent Hill (2026)

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

This week, joined by special guest Samuel Mattern of the Spanish Sundown podcast, we explore the town of Silent Hill. Cool of the week includes Harvey in Hell, El Captiva, Final Fantasy 7 remake, The Beauty, and Shameless. Trailers are Dolly and Corporate Retreat. The podcast spotlight shines on Blood, Fear, and Beer. And we get feedback from Movie Magic with Brian, JackieandJoey Engleman, Doug Stark Lima, Matt Wood, Bede Jermyn, and Pat Caruso. Thanks for listening! Spanish Sundown Website: https://www.spanishsundown.com The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Welcome back to the horror returns. I'm Lance. With me as always, co-hosts Brian and Philip. And we got a very special guest tonight. This is a dude that has a, has a podcast that's, I don't know, 12 or 13 levels above ours as far as production value, sound effects, quality recording instruments, I'm sure, and location, which we'll get into later. But yeah, we got Samuel Maturn. I hope I pronounced that correctly.

Yeah, perfect. Hi, everybody. Thanks for having me. Yeah, Samuel is with the Spanish Sundown podcast, so we'll get into that, we want to help promote your podcast, my friend. So we'll get into the show. Samuel, what gave you the idea, man? It's a very interesting, unique format that you've got. Yeah, I guess it is a little bit different. I guess as far as the idea is concerned,

well, I guess maybe for the listeners, just so they have a little bit of an idea of who I am. I'm American. I was born in Portland, Oregon, but I've been living in Spain for about the past 20. years or so. So I've always been a little bit of a history nerd. Actually, that's not entirely true. I've always been a major history nerd. And I've also always loved horror. So living here in Spain, this is really a country that oozes history. It's one of the things that I love the most about

living here. I really I really love my adoptive country. And so it's a place, you know, when you go outside just the other day when I was going for a run in the mountains, it's kind of wild to think, on this road there were actually Romans that were like carrying slaves along here you know and that's like right outside my house or uh this bar that I like to go to in the basement there's a dungeon that was used by the Inquisition so it's like you know there are all these places that it just like oozes and breathes history there's ghosts anywhere they're in there oh definitely yeah so it's like if there's any place that's got stories it would be here so the idea that I had for this podcast uh each episode is standalone, but they all revolve around one central premise, which is their everyday objects,

and inside of these objects, there are voices that are trapped. And so when the sun goes down, when everyday characters touch these objects, the voices tell their story. So these voices, they can tell stories ranging from ancient Celts that are high on shrooms. That's a true story, actually, in the town that I live in, they found evidence that the Celts over 2,000 years ago. they settled here because there were magic mushrooms, and they used them in some of their religious ceremonies. To, you know, I don't know, we have adulterous kings from the 16th century.

That would be Philip II. And sometimes there are even some more modern stories, too. So that can be Franco during the dictatorship. There are stories that are a little bit more recent, but that's still a part of Spain's past. So each episode kind of seeks to tell a little bit of these stories. And one of the cool things and one of the things that I'm most proud about in this project, is that I try to record as many sounds as I can on location. So that means that I go to the places where these stories occurred

and I go with my field recording equipment. And the concept is for the listener to be able to close their eyes and to travel with their ears. So that means ambient sounds, the sounds of people talking on terraces while they're having their glasses of wine or sangria or the music that they're playing when they do their Easter Holy Week processions, even the sounds of the trains, things like that.

And then going along with each of these episodes, I also try to record original footage. And so I have videos like teasers that go along with it. And that way people can check us out on social media and kind of get more of a visual feel for the story that I tell in audio format. So I think more or less that kind of gives a summary of what the show's about. But I'm not sure. Do you guys have any questions? That sounds awesome. I like the whole idea.

Plus, yeah, with the Spanish history, you've got a, well, a, well, wealth of information to pull from, you know? Totally. There are no shortage of stories from people are like, where do you come up with the ideas? I'm like, I just walk outside. Yeah. Are you possibly in the future going to tackle other countries? You know, I might do that in the future. It's an idea that I've had for right now.

I'm focusing on Spain, just more for logistical reasons. Because, because I live here. But really, you know, Spain, it used to be an empire that was, you know, as big as the British empires. So there are also lots of countries that I could tie in under the Spanish sundown umbrella, ranging all the way from Asia to Latin America, to even, you know, all the way up to Portland, Oregon, where I was born, the Spanish were there too. So there's kind of a wealth of possibilities. You just move to a new country and then start a new podcast from that one doing the same thing. Yeah, well, I don't know. I guess I'm a little bit older now when I was,

I guess I was 18 when I moved here. And at the time, it was, you know, really exciting. And I didn't mind doing all of the government bureaucracy and all those things. Yeah. I've also lived in North Africa for a while, and the bureaucracy there was a whole different ball game. But I don't know. At this point in my life, I'm pretty happy living here, and I'm not sure if I want to go through that process all over again. But never say never.

You never know what life is going to throw at you. Get some great things out of Egypt. Yeah, for sure. I wouldn't mind, in fact. That'd be a cool destination. Yeah, I'm here in Florida. We have a ton of Spanish history. Totally. Yeah.

And in fact, I think wasn't it, wasn't it pretty much all Spain at one point? Do you know anything about that? Yeah. Well, I think actually one of the, if not the oldest city in the United States is St. Augustine, right? Sure. Yeah. Right on the coast. Yeah. And that was Spanish too. Yeah. So do you, Samuel, do you have any, I guess like any single episode so far that really sticks out to you? Like, was there one that kind of inspired? One story,

that inspired you to start doing this or one particular episode that you would recommend as kind of like a, I guess like a good gateway drug to your podcast for our listeners? Yeah, well, as I mentioned before, each episode is standalone. They're all self-contained stories. So they can, you know, listeners can really kind of listen to whichever episode they'd like. But I would recommend starting with the pilot episode just because it gives you a feel for the story and the premise. But beyond that, you can kind of just jump in wherever you want. One of the episodes that I had the most fun making is called La Cueva Valiente,

and that's about a bandolier who actually lived and died more or less right around the corner from my house. I took a hike up there. There's this cave that he died in. And so that's a pretty wild story. And then there's another one that I just put out, I guess what was it, about a month ago. And it's about Pegasus. I took a trip up to an old Roman villa that's towards Viadolid. That's about two, yeah, about two hours outside of Madrid. And this place was absolutely wild.

I had never seen anything so cool. It's this villa that used to have 30 different rooms in it. It was owned by a pretty wealthy Roman family between the second and the fifth centuries, AD. And so they have this archaeological dig there. And the really cool thing is that they're intact floor mosaics. And so you can still see them. It's totally impressive. It looks like they were made just yesterday.

And then the other really cool thing that they have, in addition to these mosaics and the museum, that's got, you know, thousands and thousands of artifacts that they found everything from clothes to jewelry. You know, they even have like the little makeup cases, the little clamshells that the women used to put on their eyeliner and everything. There's also a reconstruction of the Roman villa. And so you can walk around the place. And it's really cool because you just get this feeling. It's like, wow, I am back in ancient Rome right now. And what really struck me is that it's got the furniture in there. And it's like, this is just like the houses today. It was 2,000

years ago, but we haven't really changed that much. So I tell the story about there's in, in one of the mosaics that they have there, there's this depiction of Pegasus, but the thing is Pegasus doesn't have any wings. And so that immediately got my attention. And I started reading about it and researching a bit more. And the archaeologists have a couple of different theories. And so the voices that are trapped in an object, and I'm not going to tell you which one, because I don't want to have any spoilers, they have a theory as to why Pegasian doesn't have any wings. And I would suggest listeners if they want to jump into that episode, it's called Pegasus

Chopped Wings, and that might be a good starting place too. Cool. I got to ask this one for Philip, and he'll know why when I ask. Have you done any stories or have you considered any that involve like alien sightings or abductions, UFOs, anything like that in Spain? Yeah, you know, that's actually on my list and I've been doing a bit of research. but at this point they're kind of more vague ideas because there are lots of different things that I could delve into there but I don't have anything anything concrete yet but I would recommend to

stay tuned because I'm sure that's going to come out sooner or later that's cool because I've seen like some you know renaissance paintings and stuff where it looks like there's UFOs and stuff in the background so it's like this is sort of a lore that's been around for a lot longer than we think yeah and a lot of times I think that these things they can kind of hook in with religious iconography or, you know, legends that they have from the Bible. There's, when I was a little kid, I came from a pretty religious household, but more on the evangelical side of things, not Catholic, like they have here. And so I'm not sure if, yeah, I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with Frank Peretti,

but he was a pretty prolific novelist, like, I guess, towards the late 80s, early 90s. And he was really popular in evangelical circles. And this is kind of funny because when you think about evangelicals, you wouldn't necessarily think horror. But this guy, he wrote these. books where there were angels and demons and in these books they're real and so it's got you know everyday characters but then in the background they've got this whole spiritual warfare thing going on and so they would have sightings the people um you know on planet earth and so now from my for my

adult perspective i maybe don't have the same beliefs that i had exactly at that time but i'm sure that those things you know they influenced the way that i tell stories and the way that i come up with these stories that's cool yeah i go round and round and all that stuff and and and i realize that We as humans don't know anything. Yeah, that's definitely for sure. Anything could be possible. Yeah, definitely. All right.

Well, you agreed to join us on this horror movie podcast. So I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you. What are your favorite horror films of all time? My favorite horror films of all time. Well, that's a tricky one, the one of all time. It's a loaded question, isn't it? Yeah, it is. more than films actually

if it's okay I'm going to twist that question just a little bit because me being a sound guy I'm more into podcasts than to films and so I've been listening to this podcast recently that has absolutely blown my mind it's called Old Gods of Appalachia and I'm not sure if that rings a bell for you but this is absolutely fantastic storytelling

I think it might be like five or six years old something like that I'm not sure don't quote me on that exactly but they've got a pretty extensive back catalog. And so this is kind of like an alternate reality in Appalachia. And it goes all the way from the 19th century to the present day. And there are demons in there. There's a bit of religion and black magic. And then they've also got this fantastic original music.

And that one has really been sucking me in recently. So I would say more than film, just because I'm more of an ears kind of guy. That's one that I've really been enjoying recent. Oh, yeah, I'm looking at it right now. They're in season six, so they've got to be doing something right. Yeah, I just listen to their recent teaser, actually. Yeah, and I think the new season should be coming out very shortly, if not next week. That whole area has like some really good mystery and stuff to it, like the history of the Appalachian area.

Yeah, it's like steeped in all of these crazy stories. That's where you get the weird mountain people that live alone there. Totally. Yeah, and like all the Gothic stories do. Yeah. Yeah, it's really cool. All right, cool. Anything else you want to ask, Brian? No, other than where can everybody find your podcast?

Oh, yeah, that's a good question, actually. Well, we're on pretty much every major platform on, you know, Spotify, Apple, Amazon, and several others. So if you just search for Spanish Sundown, and then you can also check out our website, which is www. spanish sundown.com. And we're also on social media on both Instagram and Facebook. There's also a Reddit community. If you just look for at Spanish sundown. And that's a cool place if you want to check out the footage and images that I was talking about earlier. Spanish Sundown. Good name. Sounds like a weird sex thing. Yeah, it does a little bit, right? That's not exactly what I had in mind. That's the first time I've heard it. But I'll let you know if anyone else gives me that same

feedback. All right. Yeah, you're in IMDB. I think there's even a picture, a picture in there I saw. Yeah. That's pretty cool. So had you done anything, had you done anything before this, podcast wise or radio wise or like what led you to this? I'm actually a professional voice actor by trade. That's one of the hats that I wear. That makes sense. And then the other, than the other day job that I have, I've been doing this for almost the past two decades, is working in the film industry as a translator. And so what I do there is working with teams of screenwriters here in Spain when they come up with the concept for a series or for a film

and that they want to market it abroad or they're looking for investors. I work with them on the concept there and in the development of the screenplay. So this has been really cool for me because I've gotten to work with some of the greatest screenwriters in the country. And it's been like an ongoing master's degree. I get to see their whole creative process, all the different iterations that the scripts go through, all of the revisions,

and then get to adapt that to the English-speaking market. So that's a little bit of my background in that regard. And then I also did do another podcast. This was a couple of years ago, right after the pandemic. And that was in Spanish. That was the first time that I produced my own show. And that was a little bit more political and leaning,

more historical documentary. So not at all like the project that I'm doing right now. But it was kind of cool to, you know, to kind of dip my proverbial toes into the pool. And it got picked up by Spanish radio, actually. So that was really encouraging. And that kind of pushed me in that in this direction to keep reducing things. But with this project, I kind of wanted to move away from politics and to do something totally different. And the cool thing with horror, I'm sure that you guys can tap into this also.

It's just a fun genre. And, you know, it's kind of fun to be scared and to see the, the grosser, the creepier side of humanity. But for me, the most interesting thing about horror is, like, what's the scariest thing? It's what you've got going on inside of your own brain, at least for me, I think. And I think good horror films, it makes you look at things that way. So kind of what I try to do with Spanish sundown is I like to talk a lot about, well, as human beings, I think it's really comforting when we can see things in black and white, when they're

really clearly delimited. But unfortunately, life isn't that way. way and there are a lot of gray areas. And so I kind of like to explore those gray areas, things that are morally difficult, or talking about the horror inside my own brain, my own hypocrisy sometimes, sometimes when my own values are challenged. And so I try to put those themes to have my characters grapple with them too. And hopefully that can help the listeners to grapple with those same things,

to recognize their own weak points and maybe to be a little bit empathetic with other humans too. So I hope that those stories can, yeah, they can encourage people to look at life through that lens also. Nice. All right. Well, you know how our format goes here, man. So we always like to start off with a little thing called Cool of the Week. So this can be a podcast you've listened to. It can be a film, a book, a concert you attended, really anything. I mean, we've opened the door wide open for this. So Samuel, what's the cool? coolest thing you've checked out or experienced this week? Well, I think I might give you another podcast. If that's all right with you guys, you can kind of see a theme here. You can see that I'm kind of loki upset, that I'm kind of loki obsessed with the industry. But another one, this is also a horror podcast, and it's called Harvey and Hell.

I'm not sure if you guys have heard of this, but I forget the creator's name, but he's a Canadian guy, and he started making one called the Milkman of St. Gass. and so Harvey and Hell is like a 19 yeah it was very surreal but it sucked me in there was something about his storytelling that was cool and so I was definitely on board

when I heard that he came out with a new project and it was released just this last month and it's a 1980s desert noir so he's this FBI detective who goes to the desert of Utah and they're looking for missing children

and so there's a cult there it's like this weird trailer park. It was the Mormons. They did it. Well, I haven't finished the season yet, but there is definitely a role for the Mormons in there. I'm not sure exactly where he's going to be taking it. But it's totally stuck me in so far.

And I would really actually highly recommend that. And then as far as film is concerned, there's a movie that just came out. And this is a Spanish movie, actually. Not so much horror, but it's called Elvarez. like the captive and this is the story of Servantes you know the guy that wrote Don Quixote super famous in the spanish speaking world and he was taking captive by the moors and he was brought as a slave to north africa and so it tells this part of his story before he came back to spain and before he wrote his masterpiece and became famous and it was really historically pretty well documented

and the acting and the staging and everything was just phenomenal so i would so those would be my picks for this week. Is that a newer film? Like is it coming out the last year or two? Yeah. Yeah. It actually just came out, I think last month, a month or two ago. And it's on Netflix here in Spain.

I'm guessing it would be available in the States too, but if not on some other platform, I'm sure it would be. It's by a director named Amanabar. And Amanabar, he's a Spanish director, but he's done quite a few international things he did. Agara, which came out about a decade ago with Rachel Weiss. and he's done a few other, a few other big name films. That sounds vaguely familiar. Yeah, I'll shoot you, I'll shoot you guys a link later.

Yeah. All right. Well, I'll jump in because mine is a little off-kilter this week. I've got a video game, which I don't get to play video games a whole lot. And with the, we had a, you know, Snowmageddon came through Texas. And it did blow up freezing for a couple of hours. And so the whole state flipped out. Um, anyway, so we hold up in the house and, uh, and, and I was like, you know what? I'm gonna, I'm gonna get back into some games and just play games all weekend. And that's what I did. Uh, played, uh, the Final Fantasy 7 remake. Uh, it's been on my list of things to do forever. And, uh, finally, finally snagged it and started it. And, uh, it's pretty good. It's, uh, yeah, it's not, there's not as much freedom as I would have liked. It kind of, it. It kind of, it's not. It kind of, it's not. It kind of, it. It kind of. It's not. It. It's not. It. It. It's not. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's not. It. It. It. It

kind of put you on a linear storyline and you just go. But very well done. It stays true to the original story and the graphics are fantastic. And that's what I got. That's it, huh? All weekend playing Final Fantasy 7 remake, huh? What makes it a remake, dude? Is it like a new story or is it just like?

Well, no, it's like... Update the graphics and stuff. Yeah, the original Final Fantasy 7 was. like in the 90s on the PlayStation. Yeah. And so now they've got like the, they remade it with modern graphics and stuff. And it just looks way better instead of like little blocks with polygon hair.

Okay. All right. Well, that's a good one. Yeah, I started watching the show that I'm pretty late to the party on. It's, it's an American version of a,

of a British show. As so many good, good shows are. I don't know if you guys have ever checked this out, Shameless. You've heard of this one? Yeah. Have you guys seen any of the episodes? I've seen the first season, maybe.

Maybe half of the first season. I'm familiar with it. Yeah, I watched a bunch of it. I don't think I ever finished it, but I watched a bunch. Yeah, we just finished the first season. It's pretty interesting. William H. Macy plays a character named Frank Gallagher, and he's basically, he's a typical, you know, gaming the system scammer type guy, right?

He spends all his time in the bar. He's got a disability check, an unemployment check, and what other type of money coming in from the government? So he's firmly on the dole, right? Like, everything he gets is either from, you know, shy-stering somebody or promising he'd go out and do a job and getting the money up front and then never showing up, like going to the bar instead, or getting his government checks. So, yeah, this dude, like, comes up with all these different scams and ideas. And so he meets the next door neighbor.

And she's a lady that has, what is it, is it called agoraphobia when you won't leave the house? Oh, yeah. Okay. So she's got agoraphobia and she gets big checks coming in, right? Like, I believe she gets some sort of checks because of someone that passed away in her family. and they come in pretty regularly. And she's just kind of there alone because her husband had just moved out.

And so he sees a chance to kind of move in with her. So he sort of spends his time between his house and hers. And he tries to say out of his house because he's got like seven or eight kids running around there that he does nothing to take care of. And I think like the oldest daughter is the one who ends up doing most of the babysitting duties and things like that.

but it's kind of interesting because like the first two-thirds of the season were just kind of laugh out loud funny and just a lot of yeah here he goes again trying to pull another scam and then as they got toward the end of the season I mean you're dealing with things like gosh rape suicide um accidental death dismemberment like the show gets super super dark So I thought it was kind of interesting the way they were able to kind of take the same characters, same actors and same setting and like turn it from one show into something completely different

by the end of the first season. Now we just started the first episode in number two and it's kind of back to that lighthearted stuff so I'm waiting to see when the other shoe is going to drop on the drama and traumatic events and stuff. But I don't know. I haven't seen too many shows that have been able to do that. Like, it balances the comedy and the tragedy perfectly.

So it's a good show, man. I think we're going to keep watching it. Well, it's got that kid from the bear in it. Yeah, his first show. Yeah. I don't know if it was his first show, but that's where I first noticed him. Yeah, he's pretty young. He's like, well, the daughter is the oldest in the family,

and then he's like the second oldest. So probably, I'm guessing about 17 years old in the first season. So it's kind of interesting. I can't wait to see where his character arc's going to go, right? Because he's a completely different character than the one in the bear. So I'm enjoying it. It's got a good cast, certainly. The neighbor is played by Joan Cusack, and she's got quite a bit of range.

So, yeah, I'm going to keep watching it. I'm enjoying it. Brian, you said you've seen the first season? I don't remember. I want to say I've seen most of the first season. and just kind of got lost with all the shows that I try to keep up with. Yeah, that can be an issue, can it? Yeah.

That Night of the Seven Kingdoms is already out now on HBO. I watched the second episode last night, and I still don't know how I feel about it. The comedic tone to it is kind of throwing me off. You were saying last week on the show that it was kind of like, it starts out with the guy shitting behind it. tree or something like that? Yeah, they have this scene and it goes right into the iconic

Game of Thrones theme song and then abruptly gets cut off with the guy taking his shit behind a tree. Practically standing up for some reason. I did catch the first episode. And he continues because he sort of dunking the tall. So he

constantly is hitting his head on door frames and I'm just like, what is this? It's not bad, but it's just throwing me off. Yeah, I'm not sure if I get it yet either. Like, there was nothing in the first episode that really stuck with me. Okay. So, nothing really is the second episode. And from what I understand, it's like, the season's only going to be like six episodes. Oh, well, they better start doing stuff. Maybe they'll, maybe they'll end up in Spain. Well, actually, though, this is an

alternate world. It's kind of, the original series is based on loosely on the War of the Roses, which was in the UK. But yeah, that's right. It's not on Earth. So they probably won't end up in Spain. But with the way they're going with the comedy, you never know, right? Who knows, yeah. What else, Brian? Oh, yeah, yeah. Checked out the new Ryan Murphy series on FX, The Beauty. Oh, I've been meaning to watch that. And if anybody doesn't know Ryan Murphy, he's most known for the American Horror Story.

Okay. And this is basically the substance, the movie The Substance, done as a series. Did we need that, though? I'm enjoying it so far. It's set in a fashion world. People that are essentially on the beauty is transformed into their, most beautiful version of themselves, but it ends up having violent outcomes to it. Okay.

There's a lot of recognizable faces in here. Evan Peters, Rebecca Hall, Anthony Ramos. A lot of people you would see in Ryan Murphy's stuff. So I'm enjoying. Yeah. But it seems like a lot of newer faces that are working with him in this one. but if I had to compare it to something compared to the

the substance in serious form okay a lot of beautiful people in it as they say yeah a lot of beautiful people a lot of gore a lot of sex definitely isn't for of course

the children because once you have the beauty which is basically the substance you can pass it on like an STD uh-oh uh-oh which ends up

I don't I'm into the part of the show where I don't know if it's the drug that's causing horrific outcomes or if it's being passed on which is causing it

but it's an interesting premise now you end up with syphilis yeah and they still wear those big wigs in like in the in the UK for court and stuff Like the reason that they started wearing those wigs was because of syphilis.

Is that wild? Anyway. And I too have been affected by the weather because it knocked out my internet for most of the week. So I only got one movie in and it recently came out on Shutter and it's called Mother of Flies. Mother of flies. Have you guys heard of the Adams family? it's a family of filmmakers and actors. Yep.

Yeah. Very indie, right? They're very indie. Yeah, very indie. They wrote, produced, and directed, and some of them starred in this one. It's a very slow burny. If you're into, like, witchcraft stuff and like a good slow burn, then I recommend this one. But it was a little too slow for me.

But it's not a bit. bad movie. It's pretty well active. Basically this girl, she's dying from cancer and she decides to go through a witch to cure her. I'm sure you guys can imagine where

it goes from there. Maybe not the best idea, huh? No. Okay. Would you recommend it? Is it worth a watch? If you're into indie stuff because it's

well made but it also has an indie feel to it and if you like a good slow burn witchcraft movie it's on shutter and I know a lot of our listeners have shuttered so yeah for sure I'm I'm usually into a slow burn as long as something happens you know

yeah and I'm looking at I also did watch the first episode of Wonder Man the new Marvel Disney Plus show yeah people are like is it gonna bomb or is It's the highest, it's the highest, it's the highest, it's the highest, it's the highest reviewed Marvel show out of all of them so far. Really? Okay, so, so does it lean more into like the comedy, the action? A little bit of, a little bit of everything.

It's this guy, he's auditioning. Wonder Man's a character, a movie character in this universe, and he grew up wanting to be that character and he became an actor. And he's auditioning for the part. And there's a scene where he has a sign of paper saying he has no superpowers to audition for the play. And he kind of has this look like he might have superpowers. And he's lying about it just so he can audition. Right. And they kind of go through, they kind of actually talk about superhero fatigue, superhero movie fatigue in this stuff like that.

And the main character is, yeah, yeah. Abdul Mateen. He played the new Candyman in the last Candyman movie. Okay. Oh, yeah. That guy. Huh. They brought back Ben Kingsley's character from Iron Man in Shang Chi. Ah, okay.

Yeah, if it's said in the acting world, that would make sense. Yeah, which is, there was actually a funny scene in it, because he's trying to get back into acting, get his career back on. And then after he leaves the audition, like one of the people that was there for audition,

was like, wasn't he a terrorist? Because they had him play a terrorist in one of the Iron Man movies. Yeah, that's right. Little bit meta. A little bit. Okay. So that's all I have this week. Like I said, we had a little bit of a snowstorm up here as to much of the country.

And it knocked out my internet for a good four or five days. You guys are laughing at Galveston saying, you're so cute seriously it froze overnight and my wife was flipping out she's like why we have to turn the water off we had a bad up here

because one of the days when it didn't snow it actually rained and he'd everything icey yeah that's worse that's a problem we did have a lake in our yard though it rained a lot this weekend oh that's all I have for this week

all right cool all right so that's cool of the week to you by Brian. Take it away. All right. We got a lot of movie news. No TV news this week. The next Insidious Movies officially titled Insidious, The Bleeding World. Oh.

How far are they going to go with this crap, Samuel? Insidious. Here's another one. Well, no, Patrick Wilson and his family. They said they're done with that, but they are bringing Lin-Shay back. So I don't know if this is afterlife Lynchet or another prequel. Boy, okay. She's going to be the only thing that could save it.

She couldn't save the last one or the one. No, not hardly. There's been 25 of them. Let's see. Academy Award nominee Diane Lane has joined the cast of Mike Flanagan's The Exorcist, starring alongside Scarlet Joe Hanson. Wow. I definitely want to see that.

I have high expectations. Which makes me worried. Yeah, but so far, Mike Flanagan, he really doesn't, he doesn't disappoint. So I'm looking forward to this. He's, he's been great at everything so far. Definitely. Let's see. Ready or not to, here I come.

Gets bumped up another week to March 20th. Spring break? Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Let's see. Robert Eggers' next movie, The Werewolf, has officially rep production. So it's going to be a medieval horror film.

And it's going to get a Christmas Day release. I feel like we've had a lot of Werewolf movies lately. It seems that way. Are you, Samuel, are you a Robert Eggers fan? I can't say that I'm super familiar. Okay, he's a super history nerd, dude. He's done, he did the Vikings. It's called the Viking.

Nospheratu. Nostratu. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the Northman, he did the Northman, right? The Northman. The Northman, not the Viking, the Northman, yeah. Yeah.

He also did the witch. Okay. The lighthouse. Awesome. Okay. Did not like the lighthouse. It was weird. I didn't, I don't think I paid enough attention to it.

I haven't given it a fair chance. Yeah. And the last two things I'm going to talk about actually have to do with super cuts of movies coming out. After the release of The Strangers Chapter 3, they are going to release a four and a half hour super cut of the Strangers trilogy. What? Can you like shoot me in the face before you schedule that? I'm going to actually say, we're not going to do it for the show. I'm going to say the Supercut will probably

hit different than watching them separately. Yeah, that's probably true. I guess. I mean, or you could just watch them one right after the other, right? That's kind of what I was just thinking. I'm not sure what the difference would be. Or you could save yourself a lot of time and not watch them at all.

Also an option, right? and because of the success of Welcome to Dary Annie Bouchetti confirms a six-hour, a six-hour plus extended super cut of It in It Chapter 2 is in development. It would never, never be foreseen scenes and other things added to it. So supercut of those movies. Are they going to go there with the underage gangbang scene? I doubt it. I hope not.

I'm going to say they probably I'm going to say they probably didn't film that scene. Yeah. That's a lot. They're like, Stephen King got a little out of his lane on this one. A little too much coke on that day. That's exactly what I was just thinking.

How much cocaine does it take to fuel a scene like that? My imagination could be screwed up sometimes, but imagine if I were on drugs. Check that guy's computer. I guess this is a new trend because recently, I believe, a month or two ago, the Kill Bill Supercut just hit was in theaters for a week or so for limited time. People with a whole lot of patience. Yeah, they're milking this stuff for all that's worth, man.

I'd just make a new one. Well, Quinn's next movie is going to be his last. keep saying. Yeah, but wasn't the last one. It's supposed to be the last one. Oh, he said 10 movies. He said 10 movies. The last one was his ninth.

Okay. Well, see him go out with a bang. Brad Pitt's got to be in it, right? Well, the... He's a stimulus Jackson. Has to be. Well, for sure. The spin-off of a once-upon-a-time in Hollywood

is not directed by Quentin Tarantino. Yeah, I didn't figure it would be. I think Stephen Sotomberg. I think is doing it. That's a big name. Okay. All right. That is the news.

That's all we have. All right. What part of Spain are you in, Samuel? I am about an hour outside of Madrid. Okay. All right. Gotcha. City.

Do you guys have trailer parks out there? No, we don't actually. No trailer parks. No, that's... In my childhood, I was familiar with them. But no, around here, trailer parks, no, not so much. Not so much. All right.

Well, you're going to take a trip with us, man. All right. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, we're about to take a little trip down to the trailer park. Let's go. And Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's our first new trailer tonight, Brian? The first one we're going to talk about is a Texas chainsaw inspired slasher,

movie called Dolly. This is directed by Rod Blackhurst, written, also written by Rod Blackhurst. The only familiar name I seen that was in the trailer was

Sean William Scott. Stiffler. Stiffler. Oh, yeah. Okay. So, what did you guys think of Dolly? Is it really Texas chainsaw masker inspired?

I don't know. Aside from them telling me that, I'm just not right. Trailer told you, so it's got to be true. Yeah, I thought maybe when I saw Dolly and I didn't open the screener, I thought maybe this was going to be some kind of a Dolly Parton horror movie or something, you know. That's something I would watch. Has she come alive? I don't know, man.

I can't say I'm super excited about this one. Yeah. You guys were going to like it because it's a slasher. Yeah, I'm not a big slasher guy. I mean, I'll watch it, but I guess this definitely falls into the horror category for Nez, right? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, everybody is creeped down.

out by like weird dolls, right? That's true. Samuel, I'm sure there's some stories in Spain that involve dolls of some kind, right? Yeah, actually, even in my own personal life, when we were looking to buy a house. And this house is actually right around the corner that we ended up buying the one that I'm in right now. It was the weirdest thing ever. When we walked into this place, the owners weren't there. It was a real estate agent showing us around.

And the first thing that caught my eye was that there were like over a thousand dolls in their boxes. all around the house. We were just walking around and they had like these surveillance cameras and they were following us all around and I could tell that the owners were watching us as we're walking from room to room and I just see all of these China dolls.

It was a creepiest thing I've ever seen. But yeah, we ended up not... A houseful of dolls with cameras that follow you. That is about as straight out as you can get. We ended up not buying that house. You did. That was probably smart. Yeah, but this trailer, I did watch the trailer.

And to begin with, I did not even clock that that was Stifler. I should have gotten that. So thanks for pointing that out. And the film itself, yeah, I kind of say the same as you feel like. I think I would watch it. But it wasn't like, oh, man, I have definitely got to see this. I don't know.

It didn't really make me super excited, I guess. Looks like a lot of cheese. I think this is getting a limited theatrical release on March 6th. And then it did have the shutter logo. So it would probably come to shutter. probably in the next couple months after. All right. Yeah, we may not have too long to wait then for that, huh?

But it definitely looks better than in a violent nature. Brian's got to give me hell about that one, Samuel. That was one of my favorite films of the year before last. And it's a slasher movie, sort of. Yeah, a lot of walking. A lot of walking. I could see both sides of that. And I liked it, but I don't know that I want to watch it again.

Well, now I'm curious, I haven't seen it. It's worth checking out. It's worth checking out. There is an amazing kill in there. There is a great one. Okay. So it's worth a watch at least. Well, it didn't save the movie from me.

I think it's worth to watch. There's probably in total about 20 minutes of just walking through the woods and spread out throughout the movie. It's from the POV of the killer. Yeah. So you kind of are the cameras behind him and he's just slowly lumbering through the woods and you hear footsteps. Oh, wow. Yeah, but it was an interesting. It builds, it sounds like a nature documentary or something.

Yeah. It could have been. You do hear a lot of nature in the background. You do. You do. You do. A lot of nature. Yeah.

Yeah. Some of it's kind of relaxing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, I guess that helps. And our final trailer, we. going to talk about is corporate retreat.

This is directed by Aaron Fisher and stars Rosanna Arquette and Ferris Bueller's best friend Alan Ruck. Oh, like him. What did you guys think of corporate retreat? Yeah, it looks interesting. What else did you? Kind of gave me a Belko experiment.

Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. This guy has done, known for one movie inside the rain, and I have not heard of that one. Never heard of that one. Samuel? No. But I had some, like, recognizable people in it. Yeah?

Yeah. Looks like an interesting idea. I'm not sure exactly what the idea is, but. Yeah, I have to say, it did get my attention. So I guess that's a point in it. favor. I was like, what is this when I started watching it? And now I'm curious. So, sure. So are they made to kill each other or do things to each other? Is that the premise that they're

locked? That's what it looks like. I don't know. I saw some self-harm in there, right? Like, take your own eyeball out and stuff like that. Yeah. It was it kind of like a kind of looked like a lot of them had to take out their own eye because it looked that way. Yeah, they had the spin. There's a lot of bandages over their eye. Yes, that's right. What was that movie with Jeffrey Combs in it, Brian, that they all sat around the table and that he made them play a game? Would you rather? Yeah, yeah, that reminded me a little bit about would you rather, but it doesn't seem like they're being given a choice, does it?

It's like, that's why it doesn't matter with you whether. It's kind of gave me Belko experiment, because if you remember, they were locked in that office building and was made, said, you have to kill this many people by this amount of time or we'll do it for you. Yeah, might be inspired by that. Yeah, they were definitely locked in, like they couldn't break the glass on the windows or anything. So as of this time, this does not have a release date yet because it is still in post-production, but when as soon as it has a release date,

I'll let everybody know on our social media accounts. Okay. And that is the final trailer. All right. I guess that's McHugh to move on to listen to feedback this week we shine the podcast spotlight on blood, fear

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discuss a new movie every other week. Sounds like it's Alicia's podcast and she dragged Greg into it. I like it. Yeah. And they said, thanks for the shout-out.

Nice. You're welcome. Thank you. And let's see. In regards to James Juan saying that he will bring saw back to its roots, movie magic with Brian says, no way. But like with an exclamation,

so I think he's excited. The only way I can say that. The only way I can see that is that he's not one as a producer, as we constantly talk about. He's only producing things these days. Because he was the director of the original one. Okay. So, well, all right. Well, maybe we get some James Wan goodness.

He seems to be more hands-on since they acquired the rights from, I believe it was, twisted pictures. Mm-hmm. So he seems to be more hands-on now that they got the franchise rights. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. And in regards to Robert Eggers

We'rewolf, Jackie and Joey Engelman says, not enough good werewolf movies. I'm pretty excited about this. Why aren't we just saying there's a shitload of werewolf movies? Well, not enough good, were not on the very good ones. They haven't seen

Werewolves starring Frank Burlowe. Oh, that was terrible. That was terrible. You know, every time I hear the name Robert Eggers, I think about that scene in Men in Black, where, uh, where, like, the cockroach guy's skin is, like, falling off, and his wife is calling him Eggers.

What's wrong with you, Edgar? Oh, yeah. I don't know why. All right, random segue. On to, uh, Tremors. Uh, Doug Stark says, Doug Stark-Lima says very good. Trimmers is a classic.

Yeah, it's a good one. Have you seen that, Samuel? Tremors. No, I have not. Oh, wow. Yeah, you got to watch Tremors. That's Kevin Bacon. Okay.

Greatest. What year are we talking about? 80s? Okay. 87-ish, something like that. I think actually 90. 90. Oh, okay.

Yeah, it could be early 90s, I think. I was pulling that out of my ass, so I have no idea. Well, if it's not old, I may have seen. it way back when. Who knows? It's also, you know, living here for so long, I think I have quite a few different cultural holes. Yeah. Oh, giant, giant groundworms. This one's a classic. You got to check it. Okay. Cool. Well, it's on my list on. Thanks. And in regards to Silent Hill, Matt Wood says, not good. Watch this last night. Okay. Fair enough. You know, going back to our talk last week, my daughter was telling me, about why Jimmy Crystal dressed like that. Okay. Because he would probably assume that that guy was good

because when the world ended for them, that was before the allegations. Oh, wow. She's really thinking outside the box. No, that makes sense, right? Because everybody thought he was a good guy. And then, of course, the different colors because of the Telatubbies TV.

show. That makes sense. Although it's not like he was exactly trying to be a good guy considering he thought he was the son of Satan. I think that's why he dressed that way, but for us of the viewers, and

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we go to 2016 with the original. Rose De Silva takes her adopted daughter, Sharon. Sharon seems like such a weird name for a child, doesn't it? Dude, that was the first thing I thought. I was like, how old is this child? Was she born in like 1965 or what?

I don't know why. It just seems like a weird name for a kid. Sharon Tate. Rose Rose De Silva takes her adopted daughter, Sharon, to the town of Silent Hill in an attempt to cure her of her ailment. After a violent car crash, Sharon disappears and Rose begins a horrific journey to get her back. Director is Christoph Gons, also known for Brotherhood of the Wolf, and the 2014 version of Beauty and the Beast.

I don't know that I knew that there was a 2014 version of Beauty and the Beast. Writer is Roger Avery, also known for Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs. Whoa. All right. Pulling out the big guns. It took director Christoph Gans five years to obtain the rights to make the film. He was given the rights after he sent Konami a video of an interview describing how much Silent Hill meant to him. Along with the interview, he sent scenes that he filmed on his own dollar cut up and overlaid with music from the games. Around 100 copies of Rose's outfit were made.

this started out with soft summary colors and as the movie progressed it became grayer and eventually blood red the change in the outfits were so subtle that this was barely noticeable and the strange stumbling movements of the dark nurses when they first come alive was created by filming them walking backwards

and then running the film in reverse interesting it's actually pretty cool Yeah. All right, Sam, you're going to start us out on Silent Hill? Yeah, I guess my thoughts on this. I hadn't seen it before, and I hadn't played the video game either. At times I found that it was a little bit hard to follow. I was trying to figure out because, you know, I guess we were kind of talking about this before and something that I actually enjoy with horror is when you're kind of going inside of your own mind. And I get that and I get that that's what they were trying to do. but sometimes I felt like I really had to think really hard to see where they were going with it.

That being said, again, like I said, I'm a sound guy, and I really did enjoy the sound effects, thinking in 2006 and with the resources that they had available to them, the way that they played with the dynamics and the folie and everything, I thought was really cool. And, of course, the theme song is really great, too. I would say it probably wasn't my favorite film that I've ever seen, but I didn't think it was totally terrible either. I don't know. If someone asked if I'd recommend it, I would say if you're bored and have nothing else to do on a Sunday afternoon, it's not terrible. But I wouldn't say it was my favorite movie either. I don't know. What about you guys?

Fair enough. Brian, what are you think? I kind of like this one because there's some cool visual effects in there. Yeah, that's true. Like Samuel said, the sound was pretty cool, some of the sound effects. I'm not too familiar with the game because I never played it. So I kind of just thrown into this story where I felt like the movie is banking on you knowing

or not knowing, but more familiar with the story. Yeah, now that you imagine maybe that's what happened to me too. I hadn't played the game so maybe there were certain things that I should have known that I just didn't. That's why I got a little bit of those. Yeah, like, I still don't know what happened to this town and why this thing happens with the siren. It's cool visually,

but I'm just kind of lost with all that. And the story with, was it Sharon? Yeah. 40-year-old daughter. Right, right. I keep thinking of Ozzie's wife. Yeah, they never quite explain how she got out of Silent Hill.

Did she? I mean, oh, in the beginning, I got you. Yeah, that's right. Because she had to take her back. act of Silent Hill. Yeah. I thought the acting was fine. Did she have to take her back?

That was a strange choice. Yeah. I mean, there's some recognizable actors in here. Roda Mitchell, Sean Bean. Sean Bean doesn't die in the one. Oh,

yeah. That's a shocker. Known for dying in most of his movies. Yeah. Kim Coates. What's that one actress? Alice Krieg. The Lord Queen.

The Lord Queen. Yeah. She plays those kind of roles in which characters really well. Sure. And there is one scene in here that I recommend people, just kind of like I was telling Samuel about in a violent nature. There's an awesome killing here. There's an awesome killing here with the pyramid head.

Where he picks up a woman, rips her clothes off. And I'm thinking, well, that was kind of rude. And then he proceeds to rip her skin clean off and throws it at Roda Mitchell right before she closes the door and blood just. sprays their face. That was kind of terrifying. Yeah, that was awesome.

All right. Lance, what do you think? Why was this movie two hours and five minutes? So they could have easily taken out, like they could have taken out the whole Sean Bean narrative, right? Where he's trying to find his wife

and hooking up with Tigs looking for and all this other stuff. So I think they could have cut all that out. I don't know why. It seemed like there were scenes in here where they would just be walking through the town, like with the ashes falling and going from one room to another room. And it was like a, I don't know, a seven minute long scene without really a lot of dialogue. That was a lot from the video game, I think. Well, I mean,

if they wanted to make the movie that long, you could have, like Lance said, cut out the stuff with Sean Bean and maybe do a little bit more explanation on the why this is happening to the town. Yeah, for sure. sure yeah it was like to me it was a whole bunch of sound and fury designating nothing or whatever that quote is it was it was just kind of a lot of good visuals um like you said a really cool kill um just different characters that didn't seem like they would belong together like the cop and all that but at the end of that day as far as like i can't is that who that was stand her andrew from the walking dead i can't stand her when she shows up and

Oh, shit. Okay. And it has nothing to do with the actress. It's just I hated that character from The Walking Dead. So when I pop up, I'm like, oh, it's Andrea, even though it's not that character. Fair enough. Yeah. No, I get it, man. I understand that knee-jerk reaction, man.

Yeah, again, to me, it was like a whole lot of window dressing, right? But no meat. There was no real, like, story. And I'm sure, look, I'm sure if I had played the, video game. I would have dug it a lot more. I think it is kind of interesting that you've got a, you know, a pretty decent director, right? Like that, that Brotherhood of the Wolf was a pretty damn good movie. And I think I saw something else that he had done that I, that I really enjoyed when I saw it. But, you know, you've got a director who's known for like a lot of lush photography

and stuff. And I guess he was so obsessed with this video game that he made it like his life's mission to make this movie about a video game and then not even to mention when we're going to talk about the follow-up movie here next, same director, but oh man, I don't know. This wasn't my bag at all. I was just kind of like,

there's a lot of really, really bad video game movies out there. There's a few good ones, you know, and then like The Last of Us was a really good video game TV series in my opinion, but as far as I'm concerned, was kind of like in the in the first half of that conversation this was like a video a movie based on a video game that quite frankly wasn't very good and to me just kind of just kind of dull and boring and i'm a i'm a big story guy i like the i like the uh the script and the story and all that and

to me this had this had none of that so maybe you guys can explain it to me better philip's gonna philip's their video game dude samuel so he's about to tell me why i'm completely wrong Well, I don't know if I'm a video game guy, but I did play this one. This was back in the PlayStation Days. Is this based off the original game? I think so. I don't remember exactly what the games were about, like story-wise. I do remember, like, walking through the town with the ashes falling and all that.

And there was a lot of downtime where you're just exploring. and stuff. And then every once in a while that that siren goes off and then shit gets tactic for a little while and you have to just survive for that amount of time. And so that's sort of what they translated

that to in the movie, I think. From which you remember, did they portray this correctly? Yeah. I thought it was pretty spot on as far as games go. I mean,

there were not all whole lot of good video game movies. What was that guy's name? Yeah. That did the director that did all the video game movies that were terrible. Oh. I know exactly. Ooe Bowl?

Not that bad. Yeah, that one. I know exactly who you're talking about. The ones that had, um, like house and dead and shit. Well, that was Ui Bowl. Yeah, yeah. He did like that's one saying.

So we are talking to a shitload of, shitload of bad video game movies. Um, but there's, This one was, I think, one of the better ones. It's not a great movie, but I thought it had a lot of really memorable characters, some pretty good visuals.

I like the big pyramid head guy and the nurses. We're both super creepy. They had some good kills. There was something about the, I mean, because a lot of it was CGI, but it wasn't like distracting, which we'll get into with the next film.

but I thought it worked. I mean, it's, yeah, it's, it's not my favorite movie in the world, but it was, uh, it was interesting watching it again, because I haven't seen it since probably when it came out. And, uh, it's, it's, it's not that bad for a video game movie. So that's, that's my take on it. I thought they did okay. I don't, I don't think all the family drama and shit. it was in the game. I don't remember what the story was.

Yeah. But they got the gist of the, like the atmosphere. Was all the like burn the witch in the game and all that stuff? No, I don't think so. Okay. I mean, it might have been, but I don't remember it. Like Lance brought up, I don't understand what the whole Sean Bean aspect was because he was just going from here reading this piece of paper and then going here, reading this piece of paper, and then talking to this person, just to go back home where he started in the, movie and go to sleep on the couch. Yeah, there wasn't...

The story was not strong. Brian, maybe in the original script he went into town and got killed. So Sean Bean said, God damn it, that's enough. I'm not getting killed in this movie. Well, even if I come and lay on my bed.

When she's like, she like turns her fucking phone off and just leaves because her daughter's having night So she's going to take her back to the place where the nightmares happened. Are coming from. Sounds like a great fucking idea. Yeah.

And then gets pulled over by a cop and is like, I'm making a run for it. I'm like, what are you doing? Don't run from the police. Especially for like no reason. Yeah. That's how people die. Which is exactly what happens. It seems right.

That's how people die and that's how you call a lot of attention to your yourself if you're not doing anything wrong. That's right. But yeah, so I like the atmosphere. The story was not super strong. But all in all, I liked it more than I didn't. All right. Scores from 1 to 10, Samuel, what do you think?

Ooh, I have to go first. Not necessarily. Brian, you want to go first? No, I don't. I don't mind going first. Okay. But I'm not going to be super generous. It's probably going to be, like I said, this would be a movie that I would recommend if you're really bored on a Sunday afternoon.

And your internet is gone and you've only got it on Blu-ray on DVD. So I would say probably like a four or five. Okay. That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. Brian, what do you think? Yeah, I'm at a five. I thought the visuals were pretty cool.

You know, like you brought it. We didn't even talk about them. The nurses, the nurses are pretty iconic. when it comes in this movie. Yeah, that was midhead. Pyramidhead had a great deal. Another cool visual effect was the guy she finds

in the toilet stall that's tied up bent backwards with the barbed wire. Oh, yeah. See, and I think that was from the game, too. I distinctly remember walking around like an elementary school. Yeah.

And check in different rooms and you have to remember where you're going. That makes sense, yeah. Hide when the side. irons ago. But there's certain aspects like since Lance brought it up is just stuck in my head the whole

Sean Bean aspect like he did none of his investigation led him to Silent Hill and that's where it should have led him to. Yeah. Well I guess it just we we had some characters that were still in the living world

maybe just to distinguish the difference. I don't know. I don't think it was necessary. Well when he gets any kind of clue to what's going on, he gets stopped by Kim Coates' character, the detective, and he reveals that he has something to do with it, and that's all you get

is he had something to do with... Yeah, like it was never finished. They had an idea, and then they didn't finish it. Right? Well, I don't know why he was being so secretive about it. Well, and and if if the girl was still alive and he saved her

as she's all burned up in the hospital and stuff is she still alive or did she die why is she in this silent hill there's it's not very clear that's what I was saying I felt like they made this movie for the people that played the game and if you didn't play the game you were just kind of left out of what's

going to happen. I think it was just confusing. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Could this have been from multiple games that they pulled story from? Maybe. I, yeah, I think the story was just kind of a generic thing and they set it in the, in like the Silent Hill setting. Maybe she was looking for a daughter. I can't remember, man. They just took the main aspects and then created their own story around it.

I think so. Yeah. Yeah. I was at a six, but like I said, when Lori Holden's character shows up and makes me think of Andrea so that's obviously a point taken away. I'm out of five. I'm right there with Samuel. If

you have nothing to watch which there's a lot of things to watch and like he said, if that's all you had is this Blu-Rare DVD, he didn't have any others one and I guess pop it in. You're pretty sure cops don't wear leather pants.

but maybe I'm wrong. Lance, what do you think? I mean, it wasn't terrible, right? Like there were some decent special effects. All right, considering when this film was made, the CGI wasn't terrible. I mean, the fire was, but other than that, it wasn't like horrible. But, yeah, I mean, gosh, you guys have covered everything pretty much. There's not too much more to say here.

It's, again, not absolutely terrible, but it's, Yeah, I'll give it a little bit of a benefit of the doubt because I haven't played the video game So I'll have to give it a slightly higher rating than I would have if I'd You know, maybe played the game and said that didn't happen in the game So I'll give it a three three on ten So I would suggest I mean, I don't know I had you know I played the game when it first came out which is like a 90s PlayStation thing right

So I don't know how well it still holds up but I do remember that while playing the game, it was like super creepy. I think it got the remastered treatment recently. Oh, that's cool. All right. Then that might be worth playing. But like walking through this area,

like you actually felt something. Like there was a really creepy atmosphere. It was like one of the first really scary games that I played. And so I think that that was worth it. So I was excited that they made a movie out of it. And I think that they, at the very least, got some pretty iconic characters. I'm going to give it a six and a half. I enjoyed this one more than more than I thought I was going to.

Damn. I mean, it's been a while since I watched it. Yeah. Been a while since I watched it. And I was expecting it to just be really shitty. and it actually held my attention. It held up better for you than you thought. Yeah.

Okay. All right. So, eh, maybe check it out if you haven't seen it, if you're bored one day. All right, we'll move on to the new one in theaters for some reason.

Return to Silent Hill, 2026. When a man receives a mysterious letter from his lost love, he is drawn to Silent Hill. a once familiar town now consumed by darkness. Director, writer, is Christopher Gans. Akira Yamaoka,

composer of all the Silent Hill games, composed the music for the film. Oh. And that's all the trivia we have. All right. Samuel, what do you think about the new one? Well, since you just mentioned the composer, the music, I would say that is maybe the one thing that I really liked.

I did enjoy the music, actually. Let's see, about this film. I literally just saw it a few hours ago. I just went to the theater the next town over and checked it out. Okay. So the first thing is, my experience may have been a little bit different because there were no theaters close enough to me that had it in the original version. So I had to watch it dubbed,

which made for a very interesting viewing experience. The main character, his voice, it was like the voice. voice of, I don't know, like a 65-year-old man. And so that kind of made out of the story a little bit. Let's see. The first thing that got my attention was in the very opening scene, when he has the car wreck, when he's like smoking the joint in the car and everything and the main character, or what's her name, Mary, that's her name. And she wants to take the bus into the city. And the bus waits for like five seconds. And he's honking his horn. And then she's like, okay, just go.

And I'm thinking like, what country bus driver would not wait for longer than 30 seconds for someone who obviously just, I don't know, like her suit cage just broke. I thought that was insane. Right. It didn't make any sense at all. It hadn't even stopped and she's jumping out in front of it going, wait, wait, wait. And so it was like, it just started that way and then it just kept going that way. I felt like the plot the entire time, it was like they were shoehorting things in and just, I don't

know, making things happen so that they could move the plot forward, but it did. didn't really make a lot of sense. So, I don't know, in comparison with the original, one thing I did like about this one more is that they pulled you between the Silent Hill world and the real world more. And the reason that I like this is because I experienced a bit of visual fatigue with the original one. And so it was nice to see a little bit of color every so often. So I thought that was kind of nice.

The story, if you asked me what it was about, I'd be like, I have no fucking clue. I like, I mean, I more or less get what happened and with like the ending and I don't want to give spoilers in case people are going to watch it. But I don't know. I thought the whole thing was pretty bizarre to be honest with you. I'll just tell you guys that when I was sitting in the movie theater, several people got up and left. And I was kind of jealous. Ouch. I don't know.

How about you guys? Brian, what did you think? I did not like this movie compared to watching the original one to watching this one, which this one, they say is supposed to be a direct sequel to the original one. I don't see how. Sure. Why not?

Yeah. Do they even bring up anything from the original? No, absolutely not. I didn't care for any of the characters. I do agree with Samuel, the bouncing back into the real world and Silent Hill world was pretty cool, but for a movie that's supposed to be about Silent Hill, I did not like anything when we were in Silent Hill. I can barely see anything that was going on. We get Pyramid Head back from the

original one, and he didn't feel as menacing in this one. He actually looked kind of smaller. Yeah. And like more vulnerable, right? Yeah. No, but I say vulnerable. The sensitive. Yeah, but like with the sirens and everything, like, I don't know, you saw more of his weak points. Sure, sure. The story, I also got the gist of the story.

He's trying to locate somebody who apparently is supposed to be dead and he doesn't believe they're dead. And somehow he's able to go back and forth into Silent Hill. For some reason, we're, we're, we're. back to my problem with the first movie where we're not really getting explanations for things sure and i i just did not have a good time with this one well and it can be cool to leave certain things open to interpretation right right when the entire premise of the film is over not even the premise just like everything that happens is open to interpretation at some point you get a little bit lost.

Because technically this is the third film in the franchise. Because there's a, the second one was Silent Hill Revelations, which that one is a direct sequel to the first one. It's not good, but it was better than this one.

It's not good. That'll give you a preview. And what I do know about this one when it comes to the games, I guess this is based off of the second game. Okay. I definitely don't remember the plot of the second game. I really only remember even playing the first one,

vaguely. Having to hide when the sirens came on and that kind of thing, huh? Just because it was like scary. Like that, it impacted. Atmospheric, right? All right. Lance, what do you think? Yeah, I mean, I can see how this would be a better video game than a movie, right? Like you're talking about the immersion and that kind of stuff.

I don't know, it probably speaks volumes that I enjoyed the end credits more than the film itself. That's probably unlike the music quite a bit in the end credits. But, oh my God, what a, what a mess. What a mess. The music is pretty good, though, right? Yeah. Yeah, what I paid attention to was it was just so, it was so meandering. And I couldn't tell was this supposed to be like an analogy to.

the living world versus death? Was it supposed to be him coming to terms with his own humanity or, you know, the fact that he walked out on a girl in real life? And so now he's in hell and being haunted by having done that. But there's nothing to indicate what any of that is. So it kind of doesn't matter. It's neither here nor there. Like you said, Brian, it can be kind of like whatever you think it is, it is, right?

And I don't like that. Go to the movie and throw a couple of a couple. of bucks down to get a story. I want some kind of a basis for a story. Yeah, because it almost felt like at times the Silent Hill stuff wasn't really

happening. Exactly. Like in his mind or something? Yeah, and I kind of just wanted to be back in the Silent Hill world and explore the mythology and get more explanation on why this is happening more about the nurses,

more about Pyramidhead. And I guess, again, I guess if you were a fan of the game, then you already know that because you're not going to get it here because the movie's not going to tell you. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, because if this guy was like, like you said, he took all those years to get the rights for the first movie, he's obviously obsessed, right? So he's probably saying if you've played the game, you're going to get it. And if you haven't played the game, fuck you. It's basically what I think he's saying, you know. It's like almost a big middle finger.

I don't know that playing the game is going to help you understand it. Really? Okay. And I would say even if it does, I think that might be kind of a mistake. Yeah. Because if you're making a movie and it's only for people that have played the game, like, why are you making the movie to spend all that money? I mean, like, when you're making a movie, you should get a big budget.

Yeah, and trying to reach a wider audience. Yeah. That's a very neat. It seems kind of, yeah, it seems pretty short-sighted to me. And this guy recently just said he wants to do another one. Oh, no. Oh, God. I don't think, I think this did very poorly at the box office.

I'm kind of surprised it came out in the theaters. Really? I'm surprised it came out at all because this movie was, I believe, finished filming like two years ago. Oh, wow. Hmm. That's not a good sign. Kind of like that one. What was that movie that we saw the

I think it was like the final Fantasim movie Brian That was so terrible It was like finished like for like the past five years or something Yes Kind of the same story It sounds like I didn't get the characters at all

I mean maybe they were trying to do something neat With that one scene with a maze And I'm sure that's in the video game Like you gotta get out of a maze type thing But it didn't go anywhere And the characters he met to me made no sense at all. Well, I guess we'll get more into that in spoilers with the three names, the lady that has like two middle names and I don't know. It's either above my head or he just

didn't care to give you a story. And it's like kind of all just like I say, window dressing, you know? That was the impression that I got anyway. Now I will say this. A couple of the scenes early, like where it was just him walking. And you know, you could kind of see the, the, like his face and you could see things in the background that you could see his face. I thought they did a pretty decent job of really almost making me feel like I was in a video game there for a minute. Because I don't know if it was the way he was filmed or if they did some CGI around him to give him this look. But it almost looked for a minute. I was convinced I was watching a video game character.

And I thought that was kind of interesting. But man. And then, yeah, the bus driver. That was the most surreal. thing ever, right? Like, why drive a fucking bus if you're not even going to pick people up that want to go from here to there? That makes zero sense.

Ah, this lady dropped their luggage. Screw you. Well, I know one thing. The first movie, he said that Silent Hill is in West Virginia. Those mountains and that lake, folks, that wouldn't West Virginia. So, I don't know. Not a great, not a great movie. Yeah.

The thing that stood out the most to me was the CGI. I don't know why it looked so bad. It was like... Distracting. Yeah. The original had a $50 million budget, and I think this one had a $20 million budget. Huh.

Yeah, 20 years later. Yeah, you would think 20 years later, Sam. I think with everything being in like high definition, because the old ones seemed like it was a little more fuzzy. Like the, the, the, yeah,

kind of grittier. Not the AI, the CG, the CGI, like sort of blended a little better, I think, with the, with the old one.

And in this one, it just really stood out. I was like, am I watching a cartoon? Is this an AI? Yeah, I was just about to say that. I was like,

what am I watching a cartoon? Like, yeah. Yeah, very animated. There's one scene, no, I'll get to it in a spoiler.

I was like, that is so cartoon-y. It's ridiculous. So yeah, not a fan of this one. I could not tell you what happened in it, and I just watched it. Totally going to forget. Well, I mean, I think that I've already found a movie for the top of my list

and a movie for the bottom of my list this year. Really? Okay. Not the top, but the 28 years later movie is going to be on that top list. Boy, Matt, Matt was. a fan was he? I liked it. I thought it was fun. This one, not so much.

This was bad. Very bad. All right. Scores and spoilers. Samuel, what do you think? Well, like I said, I did enjoy the music. The visuals, I like that they pulled you between the two different worlds. I thought that was good in terms of visual pacing, so I'll give them something there. I would say 1.5. Are we allowed to do that? Does it have to be a 1 or 2? Or can I say a 1.5? Okay, 1.5. I'm going to give it a 0 if you want to. I don't think it's so bad as to give it a 0. Okay. But it's not great.

Yeah. It was no black Christmas, huh? It's not, it's not offensively bad. It's just. Yeah. Not good. Garbage. Brian, what do you think? One. One. Ouch, man. Zero hesitation. Break some records.

Lance, what do you think? Am I going to be the high man on the totem pole? I'll give it a two. I mean, they tried. Yeah. That's true. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just kind of throwing a score out there.

I'll go two also, I guess. It just really wasn't enjoyable at all. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't wait to get out of the theater. That's not a good feeling to have. Yeah, it also lasted a long time, like 100 minutes runtime. And I was like, when is this going to be over?

Yeah, again, longer than it needed to be, right? Yeah, it was one of those movies where you keep checking your phone to see what time it is. Totally. I checked like four or five times. I watched a bootleg version of it, so I was on my phone the whole time. Okay. Which I'm glad I didn't pay money for you. All right. Spoilers.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Yes. The scene that really made me think,

am I watching a cartoon, was she supposed to be a spider lady? Oh, that's right. That was bad. And that could have been such a cool scene. if you did it practically and then enhanced it with CGI. Mm-hmm. I guess.

Yeah. And I wasn't... One than that last scene with the bed and everything. That was kind of goofy. Right. Yeah, I wasn't as terrified at the pyramid man as I was. And the first one, and the same with the nurses, because they were taken out pretty easily.

Yeah. Yeah, too easily, right? Their heads were busting open with one hit. What were they made out of? Porcelain or something? I mean, was there a reason for that? That's what I was thinking,

because like in the first one, like they would get like a throat slash or something and they actually started bleeding. And it was like this visceral, squishy grossness to it. And they had, we didn't talk about it. They had that cool scene where they're standing still

and she's trying to make her way through it like a maze. Yeah. We didn't get any of that. We didn't get any of that in this one. They were just there. I don't know. They just had to bring them back, so they threw them in there somewhere. And then the actress that played Mary is apparently three or four different characters in this movie.

Yeah, that's what confused me. And then he looked at her gravestone and it was like four different names or like the little girl and the crazy punk chick and the girlfriend. Yeah, she played Mary Crane, Maria, Angela, and Moth Mary. Oh, so that's like such a weird thing. Right? Huh. So what happened at the end? Is he just like living this thing through a loop?

I don't get it. Maybe. I don't think any of us do. That's kind of a cheap. Don't you guys think that's kind of a cheap gimmick, though? It kind of makes me mad if he is... It kind of made me feel like none of this happened. Right.

Yeah. It's a cheat. Or maybe like his flashbacks happened. she died in Silent Hill and he's just in this mental hospital reliving the same story starting with the when he runs into her luggage

and he's just kind of reliving this scenario in his mind over and over and over. Maybe. Maybe. And I don't like when movies kind of make you go through this whole journey and then tell you Well, never happened.

Man of it mattered. Yeah. It was all a dream. But I don't even know if that's the case, because the movie wasn't quite clear on maybe it did happen, maybe it didn't happen. True. Hmm.

What else? So much enthusiasm. We're at a loss. We're at a loss here, man. You picked a shitty episode. Yeah. I don't know. That whole name thing, like I said,

first of all, that's just a weird. name for someone to have so many middle names that are like first names. Yeah. And then I just felt like it was kind of lazy storytelling. Like it was just a way to cram everything all together and be like, oh, psych. Yes, definitely. They're all the same person. And here's the proof that they all have the same like name on this gravestone.

I was like, okay, fine, whatever. Like actually, I think that literally I said out loud in English in the series where I was like, what the fuck or something like that. Yeah. And I realized I was loud. I was like, oh, shit. I hope I'm not bothering people around. me probably not the only thing I can find that has anything to do with the game because this was

taken from Silent Hill too and the little girl that he encounters when he first yeah she apparently is a Lara character and I guess the same actress portrays the the voice role in the video game okay so that's pretty cool I like when they take the actors or actresses from video games and put them into the movies. Yeah, that is cool, actually. Yeah, and there's actually a lot of, like, pretty big name actors that do some voice work in video games now lately. Yeah, all right, yeah.

I don't know, guys. I'm kind of lost for anything to talk about. Well, Sam... Samuel, walk us through your podcast again, man. Like, you're to find it and what you cover, just kind of like a final. Yeah, so if anyone wants to. to check it out. Well, as mentioned before, it's a story about the voices of Spain's bloody past that are trapped inside of everyday objects discovered by modern-day characters. And if you

want to check it out, you can find it online at spanish sundown.com or pretty much on any platform, your favorite platform, just search for Spanish sundown. And that's will you hear me. All right. Well, cool, man. Thanks for coming on, dude. Thanks for having me. This has been an absolute blast hanging with you guys. Yeah, we'll pick better movies next time. But anyway, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. Go to our Facebook and socials and go wild.

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Next week. Shoot, what is next week, Brian? Next week is Survival Horror Week with 1997s The Edge. Yes. And the brand new Sam Ramey movie, getting Sam Ramey back into director's chair with Send Help. And that has been getting pretty, amazing reviews so far

that looks really good actually I saw the trailer at the theater before watching oh that's what I want to see that'll be a nice nice change of pace so what was the edge which one is that

it's uh anthony Hopkins Anthony Hopkins is it Alec Baldwin Alec Baldwin they get stranded in Alaska they're playing Clare Killer Bear Yeah. Okay, cool.

Yeah. It's not bad. I watched it last week. I got my weeks mixed up, so I'm a little bit ahead for once. But that being said, Philip, until the horror returns again, good night. Wow, my voice totally broke on that one.