The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #506: The Edge (1997) & Send Help (2026)

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

It's survival horror week. Cool of the week includes Final Fantasy, The Wrecking Crew, The Housemaid, and NBA League Pass. Trailers are This is Not a Test and Faces of Death. The podcast spotlight shines on Scaredycast. And we get feedback from Edith Orita Sharpe, Shane McCabe, Michael Giannantonio, Michael Wheeler, Arthur Crosby, Nureldin Maslu, and Nick Roth. Thanks for listening!         

Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everyone,

to the horror returns. Lance, Brian, and Philip. We're all survivors, man. We've survived it. And so this week, we're bringing you survival horror. so you can survive it as well that was a horrible fucking intro how's it going

we survived the intro it was awkward but that's all right we'll survive naked and afraid right now take it off what's up with you guys how's how's the week going that's going

yeah not too bad yeah my my kid didn't quite make the the high school baseball team so he's a freshman this year. He's the team manager. They made him that instead of actually making the team, which is cool. They don't have a freshman team.

So I doubt any of the freshmen are really going to get a whole lot of playing time anyway. But then we got a call. Do they have that rule in Texas for school where freshmen can't make varsity? No, I think we've got, no, I don't know if we have any freshmen that are on the varsity team. I mean, I think you can. We had some freshman kids that played on the varsity team. in football. Yeah, I think we got a stupid-ass rule

where freshmen can't make varsity. And I was like, really, if it was the next all-time Hall of Fame player. Yeah, yeah, no shit. And they're like, nope. Why would you not? No matter how good they are, that's stupid. Yeah.

But we got a call from one of the other coaches from the little league. And they said they needed a couple extra guys. So even though they've aged out of that, him and his buddy are going to play in that league. They had some tryouts today, which is why I should have played. But it should be fun. And my son is like 6-2 at this point. Right?

15. Yeah, he's going to be the big kid on the team. I was like, you better not let those little guys show you up. is this a bench warmers situation you guys ever seen that movie bench yeah a little bit like i got the ringer now okay so i thought we were done with baseball i guess we got one more year he's ahead of me dude when i was in high school i was the water boy

all right so there you get well that's kind of what he is in the baseball thing i was like yeah it's a little but you know what if he gets some face time with the coaches and stuff and actually gets to practice with the team a little. I guess that's a good thing. Right, right. Brian,

how are things going up there, man? Snow's starting to thaw out quite yet. The weather's been really weird as it is all over the country. It snowed and then it got warm and then everything melted and then it got cold, which then iced over everything. Now it's back to warm and everything's melting again. but it looks like it's supposed to snow here again. So very inconsistent weather up here.

I assume you guys get like insane blizzards every once in a while, right? Where the snow will block you in your house? We did a couple weeks ago, which was surprising because it hasn't really been like that the past few years. So just every once in a while. Yeah. I mean, it used to be like that, but, you know, world changing and everything. I just remember talking to some 10th Mountain dudes from Buffalo and they were talking about like jumping out of the barracks

like at the you know third or fourth floor just jumping out because it was just snowed. Oh, that sounds cool, man. I know. Yeah. Because it's super soft. Like jumping into a, yeah, like jumping into a pool. A really cold one. Yeah, we were in, when we were in New Mexico,

visited my mom a few weeks ago. we got snow. I was a little worried we were going to get stuck there because it kind of kept falling and my sister said, come on, I got four-wheel drive. I drive in this shit all the time. I guess when you guys live up in those extremes, Brian, you're used to it, right? Like they get the roads prepared and all that stuff? You would think, but I don't get into politics, but there always seems to be mishandling the state funds that come to like paying those. people are keeping up maintenance on equipment. Right. Huh. You'd think that'd be an important part living in Alaska. Yeah, that's a problem.

I remember a couple years ago, we had a shortage of school bus drivers. Okay. Because they weren't paying them. Well, you can't blame them if they're not getting paid. Yeah. All right. But yeah, that's kind of what I got from my cool of the week. that and

I'm still working on the Final Fantasy games, man. I'm having a good time with it. Yeah? Oh, you're going through all that. Yeah, they, so the Final Fantasy 7 remake was my cool week last week.

And I've gotten through that game and I'm on to Final Fantasy 7 rebirth. Apparently, it's split into like three games from what I understand. I haven't gotten through it yet. And the third game is not actually out yet. so I'm going to get finished with this one and be super disappointed. But this one,

this one is a lot more fun. It's, it's, it's a little more freedom to run around. It sort of plays, like, Red Dead Redemption a little bit. And,

yeah, man, blast from the past. I was getting some, some, some crazy, uh, what's that call it?

With, like, uh, the black cat when it goes by twice. Deja. Dejaveo. Gritting some crazy deja vu. I couldn't find the word.

It was going to some crazy deja vu playing it the other night. Man, I was like, have I played through this game? Right. It's like, no, I haven't played through it. Did I? And I forgot about it. Do I have Alzheimer's already? And I think it was just remembering it from playing the old school one way back when.

Yeah. I can see that. That's all I got. That's it? Yeah, dude. I've been playing the shit. out of that. I'm like 40 hours into the game. I've been playing it for like

a week. All right. Well, Brian, were you able to catch up on some shit this week or is you still like internet problems? Yeah, it's kind of going in and now, but when I can, I started a bunch of shit and then the internet

will go out and then I'll forget I started something and start something else. Oh, yes. But I'll talk to... We all do that. I'll talk about the two movies I did finish. two pools of the week, Lance. Nice, nice. All right, cool. I checked out

Jason Mamo and Dave Batista and the wrecking crew on Amazon Prime. Oh. A little buddy cop film. Well, one of them's a cop. The others, Navy SEAL. Criminal.

Oh. They're like half brothers. They're like a strange. Like they don't get along and they don't get along with their father, and their father is a private investigator, and he gets murdered. Okay.

Which brings them to the funeral, and then Jason Mamo is basically, like, even though I didn't like my father, there was something not quite right about how he died. Mm-hmm. Ah, okay. He has his suspicions, huh? Yeah, him and Dave Boutis.

Yeah, well, first they have to get through their problems as brothers and then eventually they get to the detective stuff and Jason Mamoa is very Jason Mamoa. He's not really playing a character other than him being a cop. I think I'm okay with that. Yeah, it works. It is as it should be. I just wish they would have switched the roles.

Because Batista is the one that lives in Hawaii. and Jason Momoa is the one that kind of went away, and I think he lived in North Dakota as a reservation cop. Okay. He just seen more Hawaiian than Dave Batista for someone that grew up there. You would think. I just think they should have switched to roles, but I understand why they did it because Dave Batista is older,

and he's playing the older brother. Yeah. but it has some good action good comedy uh what's her name i can't remember the actress's name deadpool's girlfriend oh like lively no in the in the movie oh um monica baccaro or becari i know who you're talking about sounds right yeah she was in the v series they did the uh the remake of the series V about the aliens. Yeah. She was in it.

Spider-Man's best friend, Ned. He was in the name. I saw a nice... He should be popping up in some stuff, man. Yeah, I saw a nice little interview with him because he's from Hawaii. And that's the first time he ever got to play Hawaiian

or somebody from Hawaii. And the first time he's got to work in Hawaii filming a movie. So that was pretty cool for him. Right. That's kind of cool, man. Yeah. He seems like a chill guy, right?

Yeah, I think he's going to be in a lot of stuff. And my second movie I finished was, I think Pedro was talking about this one, Lance, the housemaid. Yeah. Or as I like to call it, as I like to call it, the house, Mad. Really? Tell me why I'm wrong. Is that the Sydney Sweetie one?

He says, tell me why I'm wrong, and then he walks away. I know. That's Sidney and Amanda's side for you. Yeah.

Okay. That looked interesting. I haven't seen it. It actually surprised me. I thought it was just going to be like some chick flick with little thriller vibes in there, but they threw some twisty ternies in there.

And Amanda Sigfried, she plays fucking crazy. really good. It's the eyes. Yeah. Of course, they tried to tone down Amanda or Sidney

Sweeney. We've got to cover up the girls a little bit. But I didn't see where it was going by the end. Okay. Yeah, it's a little is a little twisty tourney. What was that?

It's in the theater. It was a little twisty turn. me, Brian. I'm sorry, you both are talking at the same time. I was just asking if it was streaming. He said it was in the theater, so. Oh, it's out there. Yeah, it's available.

Yeah. I was simply agreeing with Brian that it gets a little twisty terny at the end. Yeah, and I thought, uh, what's his name, did a good job. The guy from Yellowstone, the one that wanted to be Batman. Yeah. He was in that movie Drop. Mm-hmm. Or is my wife

He's in one of those yellowstone spinoffs? Yes. Yeah, okay. As AJ likes to call him her new hall pass. She said Kevin Koster's gotten too old. Well, tell her, I think her new hall pass, if they were to choose him for Batman, I think he can, I think it would work.

Yeah. Yeah, he can pull it off. Sure. Yeah, I mean, I haven't watched that one, but uh oh you know what i did see uh little pieces of it because they had uh like a galveston scene it's the 1923 one right uh-huh yeah they sure did i thought that was pretty cool he seems like he seems pretty solid like he's a he's a good actor he's got the size i think uh i'd have see him in the the cow see because you know people yeah flip out over the what guys look like

the cow what their jawline looks like, but I think he can work. Yeah, but like, you remember when they, like, cast Val Kilmer as Batman and I was like, yes, that's perfect. And then it kind of sucked. And me and my daughter

George Cleaning. We recently rewatched the dark, well, I rewatched it. It was her first time watching the Dark Night trilogy. Oh, nice. Christian Bell kind of looks stupid in the mask. He's, he,

Yeah, man. Christian Bales a lot as Batman. The more that I watch, because I've seen it a bunch, and like the more that I watch it, every time he does the voice, it's like, it's a little goofy.

And there were times when he's doing the voice, but he's talking to, like in the first one, what's her name, Dawson's Creek girl. Yeah. I don't remember.

Anyways, the love entry. rest of that movie and I'm like she knows your bad man why are you still doing the voice I'll be all late for dinner this is how I talk with the mascot and then when you get to the second movie when they recast her for Maggie Jelinehall and they have a scene where they're talking I'm like why are you still doing the voice there's nobody around

he's he's a character actor but yeah just watching that one I just I really enjoy the whole trilogy as a whole but like him in the costume I just think it kind of looks stupid

and his head was kind of fat not the best and round you're right you're not you're definitely not wrong there I think he played a killer Batman but yeah if you're going back and nitpicking on it

the look is a little goofy but Nolan's still nail that those are definitely the best Batman movies so a housemaid and the wrecking crew I recommend both of those man that's good to hear about the wrecking crew

because I was worried about that one some of those direct to video movies with like big action stars in them just fall so flat you know there there is some bad CGI in there but I think for the action and the comedy

kind of make up for it and it is our rated. Is that a Netflix one? Prime. Prime. See, I think if Netflix had had control over it, we'd have got some serious schlock. Yes, you're right.

That's the difference. That's right there, Philip. You nailed it, dude. The Netflix is the stuff that sucks. Yes, agreed. And it is more violent than I thought it would be, too. Good. Good.

That's what we want. Jason Moa might have ripped somebody's arm off. in a comedic in a comedic way or i mean it was it played for laughs or is it well when he has the arm when he still has the arm he goes into comedy it's i like it okay yeah i'll check it out man oh and i'm still watching game of throne spin off bullshit for some reason dunkin egg and egg huh oh Oh, that one I actually did watch. I forgot about that. Is something going to happen?

Are we just building to him being in this tournament, and that's going to be the finale as him in the tournament? Probably. I mean, at least it's kind of getting somewhere, but didn't you say it's only like six episodes or some shit? I think it's only six episodes. I could be wrong, but my little, I got a little, like, TV watch guide app on my phone where it keeps track of your episodes.

Okay. And it says six. Man, it's like going in real time, though, because they haven't done anything. They're still like prepping for the tournament. Yeah, it's like he spends a day at the fair. Maybe he trains. He has a heart to heart with the kid. Right.

He eats dinner, goes to sleep, wakes up, end of the episode. And then the next episode is the next day. Yeah, it's like 24. right each episode is an hour out of the day are that are that are that uh series that a lot of people are watching on hbo the pit yes oh yeah yeah yeah i say that's in real time i it actually is a that's a pretty good show i watched uh the last season of it and my wife started up on this season it's cool and i like the i like the stick isn't it like a day in the er room yeah so like each each episode is like an hour of them

in the ER. And so it picks right back up where it left off. Yeah, that's the thing now. It's on the docket. Yeah, it's pretty good. As far as Dr. Show go. Doctor shows go. You know what I mean? Yeah, because they're all kind of the same

to an extent, aren't they? I'm just happy to not see Gray's Anatomy. Is it over? Is it done? No, I don't know. But my wife is always watching Gray's Natana. I've seen more. episodes of Grey's Anatomy than anybody ever has a right to see. Like, I've seen many of them multiple times.

I'm so done with that show. Never seen an episode. I can fill you in. I've seen a bunch of them. I've tried to avoid. What else, Brian? That's it. Is that it?

That's all I can think of. All right. Lightweek for you, man. Yeah, like I said, the internet's kind of shitty. Still wonky? Okay. So AJ and I are going through all the Oscar movies, right? Like we do this every year.

When they announced the Oscars, we've, I don't know, maybe the last seven or eight years we've gotten to where we'll, we go through everything, make sure we see everything, you know, best picture, best screenplay categories, main actor, actress, you know, we don't get into all the documentaries and stuff like that. But gentlemen, it should be a shoot. Sinners should be a fucking shoe in this year.

Think so? With the exception of sinners, oh my God. You talk about some snooze fest. Everything I've fucking seen so far has just been. And it's not bad. It's not like it's, you know, schlocky or horrible or cheesy,

but it's just boring. I heard what should have been taking it this year. the Leonardo DiCaprio movie. Didn't like it. Didn't like it. Yeah, I got like 20 minutes into it. And I was like, I don't want to watch this. Too weird.

Yeah. Well, I mean, they're making jokes about, fuck, what's his name? The dude from Fast Times at Ridgebine High. Help me out here. Sean Pinn. Yeah. Huh?

Sean Pinn. Sean PIN. He plays. Like some kind of quasi-paramilitary slash border agent slash, they really don't say what he is, right? Do they feel him? No, but he's a part of some secret white supremacy group or whatever. Yes. It was when that popped up and I was like, what the fuck are we being?

So the first, have you seen it, Brian? No, because isn't it like three hours long or something? It is. It's three long hours. The first fucking scene in the movie is a joke about his penis. And then he stands up and he's got an erection. And I'm like, I really don't want to see this. What are we watching here? You're not selling me on this movie.

No, it doesn't get much better from that, man. Yikes. Oh, man. This may be the year, boys, that we actually get a horror movie for Best Picture. And it will be glorious. It's not horror. Okay. Sinners?

He says the last half is horror. But your definition of horror can't be like strictly slashes. I'm going to say it here once again, I don't know what horror is anymore. This is insane. I see so many times, this is not horror. That's not horror. Like anything outside of Friday, the 13th, Chuckie, and Halloween

is not horror. Right. Maybe Freddy Kruger. Now, he's going to say, Freddy's not horror. It's a psychological drama about the trauma of dreams, right? Yeah, a psychological thriller can also be horror. Okay.

I guess I've got to have a cool of the week. It's going to be the NBA league pass. Because if you like watching games, the only thing that sucks is I can't, if anybody's playing the magic, watch them because I'm too close regionally but other than that and shit if it's not if it's not

on you know prime or or one of the other streaming services they've got every fucking game and the beauty of it is you don't have to sit through commercials that's weird the closer you are to something the less likely you can be able to watch it yeah that's what I was like

what do you mean you see you can't watch the magic play why that I don't know the rationale is because they want you to go out and buy the local package, but I have no interest in cable. So, anyway, I miss those, but like I get to see all the Rockets game. Should have no interest in the magic, because it's Rockets all day. Yeah, fucking A, it's Rockets all day.

My son-in-law are going here at about two weeks to see the Rockets play the Magic here. So take that NBA League Pass. But no, I can always say good things about it. Well, look, it's so much fun. They don't get commercials, but it's so much fun like reliving the old days when I used to be in Houston and we went to a lot of Rockets games

and like you get all the shenanigans between like the halftime show and you get the, you know, the little games that they do where somebody can win $100 by guessing if something's over or under and then you get to see all the audience members dancing and it's fun.

It's like you're at the game. You don't have to sit through commercials. So yeah, dude, NBA League pass all day, man. I'll get it next year. We are going to get the, we're definitely going to get the, they still do the NFL Sunday ticket,

or did YouTube fuck all that up? Yeah, no, they still do, but it's like 300 bucks or something for the season. It's all right. I'll get it. Yeah, I'm going to get it next year, I think. League pass was like, I don't know, 187,

like less than 200 for the whole season. I mean, shit. Yeah, all day long. I've been watching a lot more sports, really, than I'm just not happy with any of these Oscar movies, except for sinners. Yeah, it seems like a weird list of stuff, man. Weapons, yeah. Yeah. Bougonio was cool.

I really liked Bouguania. It was awesome. Yes, I'll say that it was fucking awesome. But like, all right, train dreams. You guys heard of this one? No. Joel Edgerton? It's fucking horrible.

nothing happens to Joel Edgerton is in some snooze fest it is a snooze fest that's a good way to describe it it is a snooze fest so I don't know we'll see how it goes we'll keep watching them all just because we like you know do it every year but I don't know man

nothing nothing special for me except for uh you know obviously sinners and begonia can you guys think of anything else that's been like super special. I don't know. You're a better man to me because I can't.

I see those movies that are listed for the best movies every year and I'm like maybe interested in one, maybe two. Maybe one. Well, they're usually super obscure things that nobody's ever seen.

They've at least got a few movies in there that are pretty decent this year. What is Hamlet? I've never, I haven't seen that. In all fairness, I haven't seen that one yet. That's that guy that was in

a gladiator 2. Is it? And he's going to be one of the Beatles. Well, why is it called Hamnet? I don't know. It just seems like a weird play on Shakespeare or something. It is. Yeah, it's about a true life story about Shakespeare or something.

So why do they call it Hamnet instead of Hamlet? But it's Spielberg, right? know. Spielberg, what? It says Steven Spielberg. I don't know about that. Did he produce it? Oh, maybe. Did he James want it?

I don't know. Maybe he's in it. Okay. No, he definitely did not direct it. I don't know why it said Stevens, Spielberg. Okay. That was just the first thing it said on Google.

I don't know what the hell. Hey, Frankenstein is in there. like Frankenstein, didn't you? Yeah, but I think me and Philip both agreed we'll probably never watch it again. Same here. Yeah, Agent, I watched it on the plane. I think it was good, but

I wouldn't call it best picture good. I mean, if it wins, it should be for like makeup or wardrobe or something like that. I could see that. I could definitely see that. Hamnet. It at least has sort of a classical storytelling.

Yeah. Yep. All right. Is that it, Lance? Yeah, I've got dogs coming in and out of the room. I've got shit going on. All right. Back to reality.

Oh, now it's time for horror headlines. Brought to you by Brian. Take it away, man. All right. Let's more Exorcist news. Mike's Plan against the Exorcist. Okay. Joining the cast of already

Diane Lane and Scarlet Johansson is Lawrence Fishburn and I'm gonna butcher his name Chiuutel Edgivore Sure, oh yeah I know who you mean I just can't pronounce his name I can't I like the guy

I can't see his face I know who he is He is He was the villain in The First Doctor Strange Oh yeah yeah okay He became the villain Spoiler for a movie that's almost 10 years old.

Oh, that guy. I love that guy, yeah. Yeah, that guy. Solid cast so far. Him, Lawrence Fisbren, Diane Lane, Scarlett Johansson, the little boy, we just were talking about Hamnet. He's from that movie. Okay.

A little hammy. Man, I think he's... They're setting an... up like this thing is going to be really fucking good. Like I have high expectations and I don't think that it's going to meet them. Yeah, that's what I'm worried about. I'm so afraid to set my expectations. I'd rather just make fun of it and say it's going to suck and then be blown away.

Yeah, I fully expect this thing to like be best picture. Like that would be badass, but we'll see. For the exorcist? What I hope doesn't happen because I really enjoyed Dr. Sleep. Uh-huh. And nobody watched that movie. Really?

Yeah. Didn't do well, huh? No, not theater. It picked up more after. Too bad. Yeah, but the exorcist, if they time it right and put out some good marketing,

uh, people will come watch the exorcist. Yeah, I think the exorcist comes out. I know next year, so we got a good year before it comes out. But I think most normies are going to go, oh, another Exorcist movie. They're not going to see Mike Flanagan and actually know who that is. They'll think it's an exact remake of the original film. Do you guys remember we talked about a rumor of a Texas chainsaw massacred TV series by A24? Vaguely, yes, vaguely.

And the strange darling filmmaker J.T. Muller. and Glenn Powell were like all attached to like produce it. Okay. Well, it's not a rumor anymore. Yeah? It's happening. Okay. All right.

And as far as Glenn Powell, he's only listed as a producer, which he's a Texas boy. So he can be the cop. He's, he's not going to play Leather Face or what? They're not covering that face. He's already punchable face. He really does, man. Like he looks like a

douche nozzle. But I've been seeing him do interviews lately. He seems I would hang out with him. I know. He seems like a cool person. He just looks like a dick. He has a dog named Brisket.

Oh, nice. I like it. Brisket. I didn't know he had his own line like barbecue stuff. Really? Yeah.

This guy's going places. Hey, he can play the character from the one movie that Matthew McConae played, right? The guy with the leg that has a remote control. I've only seen that once. I don't remember it.

That guy makes some Matthew McConae makes some ridiculous sounds in that movie that there's no way he didn't just come up with that stuff on the spot. I'm I'm ready to see it.

You guys just say, just say when? Let's go. Let's see. I know there was some more stuff. Don't care about that. Sorry, guys. I didn't do my notes this week. I'm trying to like through.

Stephen King's the Institute. Yeah? The Institute Season 2 is officially in production. Okay. Alfie Allen joins the cast of Season 2, Theon Grayjoy. Right. Oh, okay. So what did you think about that, Brian? Did you finish the whole season?

I only got a couple of episodes in. Okay. I liked what I saw on those first couple of episodes, very like X-Men. Sure. X-Men-ish mixed with like, who are the people, Lance, and Firewalker, the people in the black suits? Oh, yeah, you're talking about the, well, I wanted to say the Institute. but it's called The Shop in the books. It's kind of vibes of that mixed with like X-Men stuff.

Yeah, I got that. The book was okay. I just, I don't know. I have trouble figuring out how they're going to translate it to a TV show, which means I probably should have given it a chance. But wasn't it on some weird, obscure streaming service or something like that? NGM Plus. Yeah, I don't have that.

They are running a deal on Amazon Prime if you get it through them. It's like 99 cents for your first three months. So here's my only problem with those deals. I always forget to cancel. And then I pay like 99 cents and all of a sudden 1999. And they pre-bill you convenient enough for that. For three years when you forget and every time you think about it, you're like, I don't necessarily think.

I think MGM Plus is like one of the cheaper apps. Is it? I'm not checking out. I mean, how much stuff do they have? Well, it doesn't need to even exist because Amazon owns MGM. No. Why is there a second

fucking string? That's how they fucking CBS all access. Why isn't there, right, Philip? That's why. Well, at least Paramount has UFC now because they

no longer do the pay-per-view thing you just on the U.S. or on Paramount. Oh, I didn't know that. That's cool. Yeah. And unlike, yeah. Yeah, no price change for Paramount either. Unlike fucking,

I don't want to get into the WWE bullshit another sorry-ass event this past weekend. But that'll be wrestling returns to our. Okay. Well, we'll tune in for that one, man. garbage $30 for ESPN to watch

shit them Yeah to watch Come on dude really They give bad grades to Events that are on their platform At least they're honest Give me all your money Man they run

He runs a world Give me all your money Well Well we give it a rating of of one out of six or whatever, right? Did we talk about Hard Eyes 2 officially getting a sequel? No.

All right, well, it's happening. Same director and... Okay. I think basically whoever survived is returning. Now that's horror, right? Probably not. According to Nez, it's a romantic comedy. That one's got hard out?

Oh, yeah, no. Might be. Oh, here we go. VHS franchise has got a new owner now. Spooky Pictures has picked up the distribution rights for the franchise.

So I don't know if this will affect it being on Shutter now. Shudder? Yeah, that's the question. Because that's becoming a Halloween favorite, right? Is it right around that time of year that they normally do one? Yeah. Yeah, and they're almost always

pretty solid. Mm-hmm. At least fun to watch, right? Yeah. And I think that might be it. I have a lot of news. Not a lot of news this week? No, that's it. January.

Well, how about trailers, Brian? Because we's about to go down to the trailer park. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. And what is the first new trailer to talk about tonight, Brian? The first one is the latest young adult, novel to get an adaptation. This is not a test. I should have known.

This is directed by Adam McDonald. Okay. What has he done? Sounds familiar. A few episodes of Nickelodeon shows or what? Oh, he did the movie Backcountry about the bear. Oh. Bear attack movie.

Oh, that wasn't. That wasn't. bad. But then again, he did pie whack it with fucking Andrea from walking dead. I'm a hater so much. It's a fun word to say, though, pie whack it.

Yeah, pie whack it. You were loving that one, Brian. I remember when you talked about it on our 31 days and you were just, you must have said it 12 times in that episode. Yeah, felt like I had Tourette's and I got triggered. Yeah, right. Bye, whack it.

This is not a test Follow Sloan And four other students Who Take Shelter in a high school During a zombie outbreak Okay What did you guys think The latest

In many zombie movies To come out Yeah I mean It's a zombie movie I'm in It looks a little bit like that That Japanese one That was on Netflix Yeah

Oh hashtag alive Yeah Okay Where the guy I could see that. I was stranded in his apartment. The one where they were, it was like in a school. Oh, I know what you're talking about. I can't think of the name.

Yeah, there's a bunch of kids in a school when the zombies come. I'm thinking of a different one then. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure my grandkids will love this, right? I mean, I didn't know what it was going to be about at first. I was, I'll admit I was kind of intrigued because they were all doing that. You know, would you rather, or no, no, never have. have I ever, right?

So I kind of thought it was going to revolve around that. Somebody was going to say, like, never have I ever kill someone or something, and then turned out to be a killer. But it didn't go in that direction. It was like the zombie outbreak. But again, we get a lot of these movies. Some of them are good.

Some are bad. We just almost have to think of it as its own genre. Is a zombie movie horror? That's the question, guys, right? I mean, I think it has to be. I have to say so, I mean, is the animated corpses of the dead coming to life and trying to eat you? It wouldn't be considered a medical drama in Nez's standards. What about Frankenstein? Does he count as a zombie?

I don't know. Yeah. Sort of. It's like the zombie, if you think about it. It's the most famous. True. Dead person brought back to life. He's the OG zombie, right? Or Jesus. He's a bunch of dead people.

Right. Jesus. All right. This is not a test. Let's see. I don't have a release date. I think it comes out within the next couple months. Okay.

It is IFC films. So after it gets its theatrical release, we'll probably end up on shutter. It might be good then IFC does a lot of good stuff That's what I'm saying IFC it's a movie not a series Yes

That's another big plus Could be good Not a series Oh February 20th in theaters Right around the corner Not a great time frame for a horror movie But let's go Maybe not yeah

And on to our next and final teaser not in barely a little teaser they're finally going to release the reimagining the remake the whatever you want to call it the faces of death there we go Philip

now Brian got your attention didn't he well that's what we were talking about before we started the show I guess we probably should have recorded some of that like so was the faces the faces of death stuff was fake when it first came out, right?

Yeah, like all the person getting attacked by a lion that was all staged. It came out like years later. Yeah. But like when it would cut to like autopsy footage in like a hospital, like that stuff was real. Well, that's the boring part, man. I love the scene where the fucking paratrooper,

they followed it, they followed him down with the camera, right? and then he landed in a, like an alligator wrestling park or something. It got, like, eaten by all the alligators. But they conveniently didn't show it, right? They just showed the parachute go over the wall. And then you can see, like, stock footage of alligators and shit. We bought a hook line and sinker, man. Dude, when I was a kid, Faces of Death was everything.

It was like, whose parents are going to let him rent Faces of Death at the VHS, at the at the at the video store you know in VHS or who's got a copy I thought it wasn't even at the video store I was it was yeah at ours it was but you know that was in a smaller town in my it was in mine it was in mine until they didn't have it no more because they kept getting copies like people would not return them people would steal them yes I remember that it was always like an urban legend when I was when I was a kid I was like oh yeah right faces you can't get it anywhere. Yes, that's it, man. The mythology is so amazing. And that's why I'm so excited about this movie. I want to know more about this. This one, let's see, a woman employed as a website content

moderator comes across several violent videos reducing death scenes, reproducing death scenes from a film. Okay. Maybe not the best description, but... Yeah. I mean, I don't want it to be real. I don't want to watch some people actually die, but... No? You don't want to watch a snuff film? No.

Okay. This stars... How do you say his name? Doc Bray, Darcy, Montgomery. Billy from Stranger Things. What? Oh. Barbie Ferrer.

I know her from Euphoria. Okay. And I believe this girl is a... singer Charlie SCX Yes Oh yeah This could be interesting

My only thing with this movie That could be telling is I believe this movie was Been done film filming for a year or two Okay Yeah that's not usually a good sign You don't think

You don't think so Yeah So it sounds Is it like set up like VHS is what it sounds like, where there's like these people and they find the videos, and then they go in and watch the videos, and we get to see those. That could be cheesy, huh? Like an anthology kind of a situation.

I mean, I don't necessarily know. The teaser doesn't really give you anything. You see all these people having, being killed in different ways on these different monitors, and somebody's watching them. Well. Or is it a movie about them watching the videos and something happens? So it's a VHS movie then. That's what I was thinking.

That's what it sounds like. I don't know. I expect a lot of death scenes. A lot of good death scenes. But they are doing that. They are doing that controversial thing when they advertise movies. It's kind of like over that shit. are they saying people are passing out in the theater

they're watching or they need barf bags or what I think they're saying it hasn't been released yet because it's so controversial and I'm like get the fuck out of here kind of like the toxic Avenger last year yeah the main quote I remember from that movie was from one of the studio heads

like this movie is non-releasable unreleasable in theaters. Right. And then when I've seen it, I was like, what part was unreleasable? The part where it was shitty. You guys are making,

you guys are making me think of Rockwell. You all remember him? Somebody's watching me. But I mean, I'll watch it. I'll watch it because of nostalgic vibes for the, for the original movies, but the

finished production has got me because we just reviewed a movie last week that was done filming for like a year almost two. And that movie was garbage.

Usually are. Unless it's real people dying. See, I don't even think they could get away with trying to lie that with that kind of shit. No, no stuff. I think those days are over.

I think I don't know that they can fool, they can get that like grassroots thing where people think it's real. Like Blair Witch, you remember? Oh, yeah, we wouldn't buy into that shit now. I don't think anybody'd buy it anymore. Right. We, boy, we fucking bought a hookline and sinker

when I was like, yeah, dude. We couldn't wait to get our hands on these. And then they had Faces of Death 2, faces of Death 3, Faces of Death 4. Do you remember that video that came out they you had to buy it off 1,800 number off TV. It was called

too extreme for TV and it was like actual I remember that commercial. Yes, I remember that commercial, Brian. Yeah, we got the video and it was disturbing. Really? Kind of feel

gross. Yeah. Oh, so you think it was legit? Like actually snuff. Oh, it was actual like a guy committing suicide at a like press conference a little girl getting hit by train wow so like real footage of stuff

yeah it was like caught on like oh like news footage what's worse that they made it and then I'm laughing about it geez I mean there's shit like that all over the place on social media at this point is there Yeah. I mean, you can see footage of wars, you know? Oh, the deal.

Yeah. I know we watch a lot of disturbing stuff on here with the movies we talk about, but like when it, if I think it's going to be real, I just scroll past. Well, yeah, they're not real. It's movies. The dude that got shot last year, the public speaker dude that, uh, fuck. I saw that video. I don't know if they took it down.

It showed the guy getting shot point. range on a fucking stage. I watched it because I wanted to see it. And people think this is normalized? I only watched it because I wanted to see if it was real or not. Oh, the Charlie Kirk thing. Yes. When he got shot, I was like,

oh, no. Yeah, because my wife was like fixing a show my kid and I was like that. Not a good idea. You watched somebody put a hole in his face. Don't do that. That's terrible. Yeah. But places of death.

coming to theaters April 10th All right All right Nez is guaranteed to say it's not a horror movie Well that has to be horror

It's not film I and DV's saying it's horror All right All right On to the trailer part Oh no Listener feedback That's what we're doing

There we go Listener feedback This week we shine the podcast spotlight On Scareddycast Scary cast is a horror and paranormal podcast covering true crime, haunted happenings, UFO sightings,

encrypted creatures delivering a mix of spooky tales, dark humor, and bizarre encounters. That sounds right up my alley. I like it. And I'll bet they cover the faces of death, Philip.

Well, probably. All right. Some more feedback on the burbs. another week and more feedback. Edith Orita Sharp says, is this a real movie? Because the Burbs with Tom Hanks is one of my favorite movies. And there's just no way to make it better or funnier.

I can't even count how many times I've watched this movie. And every time it's just as funny as the first time I saw it. Thinking about it even makes me laugh. I get it. It's classic. I got to do something at this blindspite. I've never seen it. I don't know how that's possible.

Makes me sad. kind of. Yeah. I thought we... That was one of those that was on TV all time, right? It makes me sad because, like, Phil, I don't think... It makes me sad because I feel like if Lance watches it now... Yeah.

He won't enjoy it as much as if he would have watched it then. Yeah. Possibly. Tom hangs in his prime, man. I thought we were going to do a commentary or something, Brian. Well, if I don't schedule what news coming out, then somebody's asking, why didn't we review this? that movie. So I try, I'm looking for a free opening because we still got to finish the,

we got a commentary with the last Critters movie with Steve that we got to fit in. Oh, God. Well, or we can watch it when the new Burbs movie comes out. I'm sure that'll pair with it perfectly. Yeah, but I think it's going to be a series and I don't want to watch a series for a movie. I'm double checking because I believe it says series on the poster and I know there's been a lot of comments. Okay. It's a movie which leads me to believe people continue not to look

at the post. What else? Michael, Michael Gian Antonio, that's a mouthful. Says, I'd watch this,

but I'll be busy watching paint dry. I think it he's not interesting. Yes, the poster says the Burrs, Peacock, new series, February 8th

on the Super Bowl. Is it already on? Oh. People are going to be watching the Super Bowl. Nobody's watching it. Unless. That's a problem. Uh-huh.

If they're smart, because what the Peacard, Super Bowl's on Peacard. Oh, they'll put it on right after. That's what it's all about then. Okay. That's probably when the premiere comes on is right after the Super Bowl,

which I absolutely will watch it. If they're smart, they, will advertise during. Yeah. But that's, I've watched whatever was on after one of the last playoff games. They premiered some show. I can't even remember what it was. But I sat down and watched the whole thing all the way through.

Why not, right? You're a captive audience. Do you guys remember that year? It was like a Super Bowl trailer for the next, for the new Cloverfield movie. Yes. Oh, yeah. It was in New Orleans. Yeah.

Yep. that was the Cloverfield in Space one or something. Yeah, that was a cool idea. The movie wasn't great, but... Yeah. What does this have to do with Cloverfield at all? I think that was after that... Brian, I think it was after the famous game where New England came back from...

They were down like 28 to 3 in the halfway through the third quarter of something and came back and won it. Is that the one? I don't remember. Maybe. I'll assume it was in England. All right. Shane McCabe says, No,

no, you may not. There are plenty of writers giving the studio good scripts. It's time to stop being afraid and use some of them. Leave the classics as the classics that they are and give us something new.

And nothing to say about the actors. I'm sure you are wonderful and want to do a fun project. I hope you had a wonderful time and wish you the best for your bright futures. Fair enough. Shane, huh? Was that Shane from the Walking Dead or was that?

Maybe. Okay. Sounds like he's sick of the remakes, man. I think that seems to be the general consensus. Although that's the only thing that sells in the theaters anymore. You have to have a known IP or it's not making money. Yeah, that's a shame. I see a typo in the next feedback.

Uh-oh. I'll read it. Let's see. Lick Besson's Dracula. Lick. It's supposed to be Luke. Luke Besson's Dracula. Lick Bessons.

Nobody's licking Besson. Ligma Besson. Michael, Michael Wheeler says, what a strange movie. I haven't decided how I feel about it yet. But it held my attention. It felt mostly unnecessary, but it was pretty to look at.

quite funny in a few scenes and I really love the little gargoyle servants. What is this one? I don't even know what that is. It is Luke Besson's bird take on Dracula and it's coming out in theaters here I think this month, but I think it already came out in theaters like other countries.

Oh, okay. Okay. all right interesting another Dracula another Dracula we'll get another Frankenstein coming out and they're like gangsters Bonnie and Clyde

oh hey in regards to James Juan's new plan for Saw Arthur Crosby says oh boy more of the same don't blame me dude and our patron

Nareldin Maslu suggested for our newest March Madness best found footage film we haven't done it it says damn I don't know if I'm knowledgeable enough to join the tournament bracket

I'm leaning more towards no but I think it would make for a great tourney hey I've been a participant in some brackets where I had no idea what the fuck we were talking about oh for sure yeah that's true I know we're not yeah March

March Madness is right around the corner I mean Oh yeah Nobody has any ideas I think maybe this is it Let's go I like it Found footage sure

We're gonna have to come up with Movies that people have actually seen There's plenty to pick from But like Phil said Has anybody seen them all All right do you guys remember We had a guest on the show Jack Hunter

Do you remember You guys remember this dude? Yeah, blue hair. Oh, that guy. Listen, he does a, all kidding aside, he does a found footage podcast. Oh, yeah? He did for a while. Yeah, I don't know if he still does it.

So he's his shoe in. Who else? Who else can you guys think? Noreldin sounds like he's not 100% sure he's in. What's his name? Noreldon? No, the other guy. Oh, Jack?

Oh. yeah he's kind of a dick I feel like I was kind of a dick to him I didn't I didn't mean to be well I mean it just probably wasn't really nice about the whole movie it was a bad movie man I'm sorry oh man

who knows found footage Ness knows a lot of found footage doesn't he I kind of felt like he was mad about it. Yeah, probably. Because he didn't bother to watch any of the other movies that we had him on for

and then he just left in the middle of it. He's like, oh, got to go. Yeah, well, I'm going to attribute that probably my fault. Sorry. Wait, was that, that was Dane DeHan week, wasn't it? When we were doing Valerian of the city A Thousand Planets or whatever it was called?

I can't even remember. Wasn't that the same week? I think it was. Okay. You remember. Huh. Okay. All right.

Well, we'll figure something. Anyway, move on. If you're listening, guys, and you like found footage, email us and tell us who want to be on the show. Yeah, if you can think of some movies that you want to be in there, and you can come and hit up the March Madness show. It's always fun. There you go.

Our buddy, our buddy Nick Roth, the director of Hanky, Pankey, email this. Regarding the film festival, he gave us a heads up about I didn't make it to New York City but our two lead actors did and apparently it was a huge smash hit. When you are recording, I want to come talk to you all about

how Golden is the wrong the wrong song from K-pop Demon Hunters to get nominated. It should have been what it sounds like or whatever you want to discuss. Okay, well, we are talk and Oscar nominations this week. So you should have been on this week.

So that is another movie that I have not seen. K-pop? It's on my list, Brian. I haven't actually watched the whole movie, but I've heard all the songs many times. And it's animated, right?

Yeah. I mean, I'll watch it if my daughter wants to watch it, but she's not interested. Yeah. Okay. Well. It doesn't, it's not a bad movie. I heard it's not bad. What it is.

Is it like Japanese animation, basically? I know it's Korean. I'm not trying to sound like I'm culturally insensitive. I just mean, is it that style? No, it's like a 3D animation. It's like a lot of animation that comes out of Netflix. Yeah. Understood.

Eh, I'll watch it. I mean, if it's dominated, I'm going to watch it. Yeah. All right. that's it for listener feedback. Our intro and logos come from Steve from the geeks. All right.

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On to featured attractions. We have Survival Horror Week. But like, real survival horror, not like zombie survival horror. Ah, yes. Yes. Yes, makes perfect sense.

All right. We'll start with The Edge from 1997. I guarantee you, Nez would say this is not horror. Well. It's horror to me. It's horror to me. An intellectual billionaire and two other men. Very general.

Struggle the band together and survive after getting stranded. After getting stranded in the Alaskan wilderness with a bloodthirsty Codiac bear hunting them down. Director is Lee Tomahaw. Horie, also known for Once We Were Warriors and Triple X State of the Union. Oh, wow.

Was that the Ice Cube one? Diverse. Diverse movies there. Writer is David Mamet, also known for Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross. Huh. It's a classic.

Sir Anthony Hopkins had a brush with death during filming in Alberta. he was taking painkillers for a neck problem and he fell in a river and didn't feel how cold it was becoming until he began to suffer from hypothermia. Oh, Jesus Christ. How many paincels did he take? I think there's more of this story. I think there's more to this story.

That's quite a bit of painkillers you're taking it to fall. Hook a brother out, man, damn. I see water and don't feel it. He just said set up the IV drip, right? Yeah. That's why his eyes were all pinned the whole. movie. He had to be rushed.

He tried to do a cold plunge. I had to be rushed to the hospital to be treated, so I got kind of serious. We almost lost Anthony. Oh, God forbid. No kidding.

He's still alive, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Is he a attacker? I don't know. I mean, I don't know. He was, Westworld was the last thing I really remember. That was what about four years ago,

season one of Westworld. He's just, he's looked like an old man for like the past 50 years. 50 years? He is 88. Okay.

Okay. He's hanging in there. Yeah. All right. Lance, you want to start us off? Yeah, really. I really kind of enjoyed this movie.

All right. I hate to say it, God damn it, after we're over here making fun an S. But to me, this isn't really a horror movie, but this is definitely an adventure movie, okay? And I like the cast of characters. Adventure for Who, the bear?

Do what? Adventure for the bear? Yeah, sure. I really like the cast of characters. I like the, I like the, the, the conjure that was running the, what was it like a not a hotel they were in, right?

It was more of like a It's like a basically like an Airbnb. Yeah, I get, okay. But yeah, that dude was cool. Yeah, something like that. He was cool and you could tell he had a lot of wisdom to him, but Anthony Hopkins, like, he's one of those dudes you could tell he got super rich,

but it was more through street smarts, it seemed like, than like handing it all to him on a silver platter. Well, he had that gift of retaining knowledge. Which I wish I had that gift because I forget a lot of shit. Sometimes I forget what movie we watched last week. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I like the way.

I'm hoping that modern medicine progresses enough to where before I lose my memory completely, that we can fix that. You can keep, at least keep some of it in. Yeah. Not all bubble out. I do like the way they kind of had, they kind of kept you guessing, right? Like, you know, is his girlfriend or whatever, you know, really up to what it kind of looks like she's up to at the beginning? And then we find out, well, she is, but there's, like, extenuating circumstances.

And, like, is Alec Baldwin as much of a sleaze bag as we think he is? Is he really planning to kill him, you know? Questions like that. But the poor dude from Lost, man. This guy showed in Claws. Remember he was in Clause, Ryan? He was the brother that. I thought he was in Lost.

I was, because I kept, I kept saying that's that guy from, is he lost, right? He probably has one of the biggest, he has one of the biggest, how the fuck did you do that moments? Right. He told you to carve a sphere out of a stick. Right. And you cut an artery in your leg. which I wish they kind of not the leg

I wish they would show it so I can believe how he did it because you just like hear him he's like oh shit what have I done and I'm like how the fuck do you do that?

Yeah like how sharp was that knife dude you really had to jam it in there what did you guys think we could round robin it a little bit but I don't want to give everything away because they were There were so many little weird moments like that in this movie. Right?

Yeah, I'll jump in. I really enjoyed this one. This is a horror movie to me. This is my fear. The bear? You live in Alaska. I've literally had times where I took my dog out. And then something just ran across and it was a bear.

Not the size of this one. What? But big enough to fuck me up for sure. Like in your neighborhood? Yeah. Holy shit. He's going to eat the dog while you run away. Well, my dumb-ass dog would probably try to fight him, and I keep telling him you're not going to win.

Oh, sure he would. Yeah. But they'll come down from the mountains into the city and look for trash and shit. Sure. Because, you know, people leave their trash cans open or dumpsters open and they'll get into it. Do they ever kill anybody? They've had, I think the last person was a few years ago. They were jogging on a bike trail and it just came out of nowhere and mauled them.

Oh, that sucks. Like Jason shit right there. It's like a teenager, I think. But that's why this movie is horror to me and to be lost. I mean, this wasn't filmed in Alaska, but to be lost in Alaska in the wilderness, there's you can get dropped off in the middle and not be found ever yeah and then you got to deal with the elements and bears and other shit and i thought the acting was pretty good um i really like how they um anthony hawkins's ability to retain knowledge came in handy because he was able to

be the one they're like look we we need to do this because this is going to help us and i know you know we can put this to you know he was MacGyber and shit sure sure and Alec Baldwin I thought did a good job stupid compass that didn't work it worked in their eyes

well it worked when they used the paper clip right it just didn't work when they used what was the other thing they tried to or no it was a paper clip at first right and then they found an actual I think his belt was throwing it off or something and so it led him right back to the Okay. That's why they went in a circle, huh?

And I really like Alec Baldwin's character because he did play that sleazy New York City photographer. Sure. And I think at one point I don't think he necessarily was going to ever do it, kill him for his wife and his money, but I'm sure he thought about it. Because I mean, it's L. McPherson and billions of dollars.

And the man has shot people. Yeah. That wasn't a horror movie, Philip. And I like the use of the bear in this one. This was not like cocaine bear. Right. A little bit more realistic, huh? Yeah.

Yeah, Bart the Bear. Bart the Bear. Got his name and the credits and everything. Okay. So they had like a real, like, trained bear that was, that was hanging out. So, uh, Barthiary trained Codiac bear, known for appearances in several Hollywood films. It appears in the film is the bloodthirsty Codiac. This was one of his last roles, rest in peace part.

Before he OD on cocaine, huh? They probably found them damn pills. Anthony Hopkins was dropping anywhere. Right. They were like bear trying. bullazers that's what he's on. It was enough to kill a bear, huh? Yeah, man, I like this one a lot too.

Anthony Hopkins is always a joy to watch on screen. He just shoes up scenery. And like putting him next to Alec Baldwin, that was, I mean, it had a hell of a cast. Elle McPherson hadn't seen her in a while. That was fun. good good solid

um i would say 90s movies but it didn't it didn't really even scream 90s to no it didn't i think it holds up you know um nice nice little wilderness movie and remind you not to fuck with the bears they're terrifying philip did you uh brian i know you did but philip did you see that movie hopkins was in last year where he it was just his voice for like 90% of the movie and he that that kid got into

I think it was was it penny wise yeah the pennywise actor that got into the car and come to find out he tries to break into the car and he gets locked in it and it's Anthony Hopkins purposely locking him in there torturing him oh no it was fucking awesome dude and it was just Anthony Hopkins voice 90% of it talking over the car stereo. And it was just, it was, the dude's got some range, man. Yeah, he is one of the best actors of all time. I won't argue with that.

Yeah. I mean, it's hard to find anybody better off the top of my head. Um, he was called. Locked. Locked. Yeah, locked. No, I haven't seen it. It's fun, dude.

Check it out. Check it out. Yeah. Okay. but yeah no really really solid movie i thought alick baldwin did great i thought anthony hopkins did great i i did have that what the fuck moment with uh the lost guy uh who also did great for the little bit of time he was in the movie he's kind of freaking out the whole time but uh but yeah that's good i i think they nailed it

all right scores lance what do you think i'll give i'll give it an eight I give it an 8. Yeah, I really enjoyed it, man. If it, yeah, if we were rating the movie, the year it came out, it probably would have been on my top 10. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think so. Brian? Yeah, I think that's fair. I'm also going to give it an 8, and I'm looking on his filmography.

He is still acting. He has three movies coming out. Damn. Anthony Hopkins is still acting? Holy crap. Well, I mean, if he's doing what he loves to do, technically being an actor, especially that big. of an actor, you can just kind of work part-time, you know? Sure.

Like, you take three months, go film a movie, take a year off, you know? I mean, that's a pretty lack schedule. And you know he's a good actor because they never have to explain why he's British movies. True. I don't even care. That's right. It's just part of it. Yeah.

At least he doesn't try to Charlie Hunnamet, right, and do a Jack's voice. Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, one of the worst like American accents I think I've ever heard. Now that I'm here and there rewatching Sun's Anarchy

just throwing it on in the background. Now that you know he's British, like you hear it. Yeah. Especially like when he gets emotional and starts yelling. I'm like, oh, there it is. Yeah. Every once in a while a word will pop up

and pop out and hear like, hey, wait a minute. All right. Did I score? I'm going to give it an 8-2. Yeah. Okay. I like it.

All right. On to send help from 2026. An employee and her insufferable boss becomes stranded on a deserted island. Insufferable. The only survivors of a plane crash. Here, they must overcome past grievances and work together to make it out alive.

Okay. Director Sam Ramey, also known for, the Evil Dead films. Oh, yeah. Writer is Damien Shannon, also known for Freddie versus Jason. Oh, wow.

Okay. The film is dedicated to Scott Spiegel, former classmate and longtime friend of director Sam Ramey, and actor Bruce Campbell, who would frequently work on their movies in various roles. Oh, yeah, that's right. Spiegel died in 2025.

I forgot this was the same Ramey movie. All right. Well, Lance, you missed this one. Brian, what did you think about it? I didn't like it. No? I thought there was a lot of boring parts in it. Stuff would happen, and then there would be long lulls of them, like,

conversating. Oh, I can't believe what I'm hearing. Getting to know each other. I do like the direction, because there was a lot of sand. Ramie familiar shots in here. Okay. Like Deadite point of view of Deadites flying through the,

across the island or what? No, just different like camera stuff that was going on and like different shots. And I was like, okay, there's Sam Ramey. There's the guy I remember. I like the acting. I liked everybody in it. I just thought the story was fucking boring. Oh, man.

Wow. I hate to hear that. And even I agree with Phil I thought it was going one way and then it went a completely another way and then it just I don't know maybe this movie was just overhyped to me because a lot of people are like

oh one of the this movie would be one of the best of the year at the end of the year and stuff like that kiss a death right there yeah I don't know about that but I didn't hate it I liked it um yeah I thought everything was like a caricature

really sort of yeah like the the asshole boss was like beyond real reality asshole asshole on a scale of he was he was the 11

huh yeah and uh and you know it's yeah like the the tuna fish scene yeah which was disgusting yeah was it well okay spoilers just for this part okay she's talking to her boss, Rachel McAdams

and talking to her boss play by Dylan O'Brien. And she has a little bit of tuna fish from her sandwich on her mouth, on the corner of her mouth. And like, he's staring at it so hard. And then this is when the Sam Ramey stuff comes in. They're like, does a close-up.

And it is nasty. But he's so, like, just out of his mind, like, this nasty motherfucker is talking to me with tuna fish on her face. and of course he gets all flipped out over it and tells his co-workers

and everybody's like outraged and thought it was a little much everybody in the office is kind of a dick oh no worst place to work since office space huh well and they they start Rachel McAdams out

as like this really she's really frumpy and supposed to be ugly and it was like okay like what are you doing they quit glasses on her lance yeah they like pig malion type yeah they they they princess diary to her yes gotcha she was the only thing she was missing was her and a poem too yeah and her her library card in her shirt pocket it it doesn't it's like it doesn't matter how much you dress down rachel mcadams she's still hot It's not, you can't.

I'm not buying this. It's like the housemaid I was talking about earlier. Oh, yes, exactly. When you get introduced to her, she's wearing glasses. Yes, right. Yeah, oh, well, she must be ugly then. Four eyes. So, yeah, so it does that.

And then they get to the deserted island. and I guess this is not really spoilers. It's just those two that's left on the deserted island, right? Yeah, we kind of know that from the trailer. And so he's hurt and doesn't know how to do anything, and she apparently is very good at this. They do explain why she has knowledge of stuff like this, which I did appreciate the little thing they drop,

and I'm like, okay, this makes sense. sense. Yeah. So was her dad like a survivalist? And she grew up in that environment or what? Oh, we'll get to that and spoiler. I think it was just a thing that she was interested in. But it let you know that that was one of her things was like the survivalist thing.

So she knows how to do this stuff. My problem is like I didn't really feel like for a survival horror movie, they weren't really battling the elements as much as I thought they would. Oh yeah, none of the survival stuff was like hectic at all. And if you've watched an episode of Naked and Afraid, you know how hard it is to like start a fire and get shit done.

Any confrontation that happens with them happens a little way too late in a movie that I thought. Huh. Yeah. Okay. Well, and some of it is like he's just still a dick like for no reason except to be it

because his character's a dick yeah oh I suit you and then by caricature then and yeah so it definitely had some of those moments is it like one of them I'm sorry now I was going to say so is it is it so bad that is it like one of them like

you know through a coconut or something and and it landed somewhere and you heard somebody go out! And they walk up there and it's people at a swimming pool at club mad or what? He's at a point in the movie where he can't do shit for himself. He can't survive without her. He's still a fucking dick. I think you'd show a little gratitude at that point. You would think she's the reason he's still alive and he's just

blatantly being an asshole about everything all the time. But I will admit, like, Dylan O'Brien does do a good job at being an asshole. Yeah. Right. I guess he blew his chances of telling her, well, I guess the blowjobs out of the question. Well, and see, and that's where I thought it was going to go all like girl boss. Right. Woke preachy shit.

And it didn't, it didn't. Spice Girls type stuff. Yeah, well, and it didn't really, it didn't really do that. It went a weird direction in the end. Did it? I didn't like the way it ended. Love story? I don't know that I hated the way it ended.

I kind of like it. But nothing that you like totally wouldn't expect, but I didn't really expect them to go that route. And you learned some things, I guess. I don't know. We'll get into it in spoilers. He was beaten when he was a little kid, right? That's what made him so mean. No, no, no.

You don't learn a whole lot more about that. Okay. There's not a whole lot of backstory to these characters. Most of it is just them interacting on the island. All right. And that's really the majority of the movie. Yeah. And like, yeah.

Like even when they're closing down the movie, it's like one little scene. But the majority of everything is just them on the island. Sounds kind of boring. All right. It really does. So before we get into spoilers, Brian, what score do you want to give it? I'll be fair and I'll give it a five. I like the direction.

I like the acting. It's just the story that's had me bored. There was just times where they're having their moment talking on the beach and I'm just kind of checked out. Like, when's the next complication on this island going to happen? I'm here for a survival horror movie, not. Some dramatic. You guys are arguing about fucking socks or whatever. Yeah.

The evil dead it ain't, huh? He's over here crying about what the son's doing to his skin. Oh, boy. Yeah, he's that character. Was he really metrosexual? Yeah, I guess so. He was definitely... He had his skin balm that he was missing and all that.

Yeah, a big looks guy. Right. I'm going to go I'll give you a seven I think it was I think it was pretty solid there's definitely some gripes I have with it and a lot of it is just

like the writing and why people did what they did but I didn't I didn't hate the way that it ended they probably could have done more with it to make it a little more fun at the end but it did have a share of like

a little bit of gore and stuff. I mean, it was all CGI, but... Yeah. But it was kind of fun. All right. Let's do spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. I did like, like I said, her explanation on why she know how to do shit on the island because there's a part on the plane lance where Dylan O'Brien and all the other employees like all the guys are laughing at a video they found of her and it was like the Survivor audition tape. Oh, well that's kind of a cop-out, isn't it?

Yeah, so she's, so she's, so she's, She's like the frumpy office lady who's supposed to be up for like vice president or something. Oh, yeah. And everybody keeps taking credit for her, who does her job very well, but she doesn't look the part. And she's, people keep checking credit for her work and she gets passed over for a promotion. And she's just in general upset with, didn't like one scene she gets sent home because she smelled. What? Did she?

Like underarm her. No, I think it was the tuna fish thing. He turned his obsession over the tuna fish on her live into we had complaints from your coworkers of odors coming from your work area. Well, that could be taken one or two ways. Which to be fair, I mean, don't bring tuna fish into the office. But. But yeah.

And then so they get into the plane and it's full of just douchebag CEOs that are Oh, what? Ha, ha, ha. We're rich and playing golf. These peons

are not on the private jet. And that's when they find her video of the Survivor thing. And they're all laughing and giggling like they're fucking four years old. Right. And so she sees it and she feels bad.

And then the plane crashes. Half of people go flying out. One guy. What causes the plane to crash? I think something hits the engine. Yeah, some birds or something. Like a bird? Okay.

I guess I can't see that. I can't remember exactly, but I think kind of like in the edge. Yeah. Oh, okay. But it wasn't like... I mean, it's a real thing that happens. Yeah. But it wasn't like somebody like did it on purpose, right?

Oh, no, no, no. No. It just happened to be a plane crash. Yeah. Gotcha. So there's a big hole in the side of the plane and people are flying out. This one guy, she's trying to help him. Uh-huh.

And he tries to grab her seat belt and unbuckle her so he can get in the seat. And he's like choking and strangling her. And then she does a fork on the floor and she picks it up and stabs his hand. And he flies into another guy and flies out the door at the hole. then the plane crashes. Okay. So they're the only two that are left, and he's got like a broken leg

or maybe just a big gash in a leg because I think she did say it wasn't broken. Right. Makes me wonder why he doesn't get the fuck up, but whatever. Probably because he's a pussy. It sounds like. Well, and he's been like unconscious for a day and a half, and she's already got camp and everything set up

when he comes to, and she, like, gives him some water, immediately. And he just starts in on her. What? Like fucking out of nowhere. And I'm like, what?

Here's some water. Here's some water. Bring me some caviar to go with it, bitch. Yeah, he's going in to the point where she has to remind him we're not in the office anymore. Yeah. And he has this like bewildered look on his face.

Like it's not registering in his head. Oh my God. Like he's, oh, my God, he's just not used to it, huh? No, he's like, he's just the ultimate asshole. And she keeps taking care of him through the whole movie.

At one point, she does get up, at one point she does get up and go move her camp somewhere else. She's like, all right, you can keep talking shit, bye. I thought they got into like a Battle Royale or something. You know, that would have been such a better movie. I know. Right.

But he just fucking laid there. Yeah. useless for half the time on the fucking island. Okay, I don't feel so bad that I miss the movie now. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it definitely is not going to, I don't think it's going to end up top ten for sure. No.

No. Probably better than half the Oscar nominee movies. I know. It's more than watching, I think. Jump into the end. I didn't like this. We didn't get to see what happened at the end. And then she's...

Really? Oh, where you... Rescued. Yeah. So, okay. And real quick, the rescue part didn't make any sense because she had this whole thing of telling him, I don't think we should ever be rescued. Yeah. We should stay here forever.

Well, he's dead at that point. Well, I mean earlier in the movie. Yeah. Oh, the guy dies in the movie? Yeah, they eventually have a... They eventually have it out. So... Allegedly.

you don't see him die. I'm so confused. So do they have a battle royal or not? I wouldn't call it a battle royale. Okay. We tried to gouge your eye out. That's pretty cool. Yeah.

Jay did. But by the time that, and that only kicked off when, amazingly, his fiance and one guy on a boat found them on the island. And this goes with the she doesn't want them to be rescued or found. So she lures the fiancé and the boat guy onto, I don't understand why they followed him,

followed her up on a cliff. And then she has them go off on this one part that's not stable. And then they end up falling and dying. And it just doesn't make sense that she's rescued at the end. Uh-huh. See, there's convoluted. I think her her motivations

don't really make sense. Like, why would you want to stay there with a guy that hate you? I think it was because she only wanted him around because she didn't want to be alone. Yeah, exactly. And she knew that she knew how to do everything

so she would have the upper hand. And she was important. And she was important there on the island. Okay. you just answered my question. It's like a Munchausen syndrome thing, right? Like she has to take care of him. Yes.

And so she keeps him helpless so that she can be the heroin and take care of him. Well, not even helpless. She tries to teach him shit. Does she? So he can do shit on his own. See, but then, like, they seem to be,

they're finally, like, getting along and stuff, right? And it seems to be working out okay. And she's actually having a really good time with it because she has the upper hand and she's like the boss out here. Yes. But then he like, just for what seems like no reason to me,

poisons her and then grabs a raft that he had made in his downtime and tries to escape on the raft. And I was like, what? But did you need to poison her to make that happen? You think that like if you had jumped out there on a raft and been like, hey, you can do what you want to do? I'm going on the raft.

She'd been like, all right, bye. Plenty of times when she was like, go do your own thing. Right. It sounds pretty dark. It's weird. But yeah, the further it gets into it, the less like girl bossy it gets and the more like, oh, this lady is a fucking psychopath. Psycho.

And so, yeah, it doesn't quite turn into misery, but it's got some of those vibes. I may never see this movie. Yeah, and then... This is not what I thought it was going to be. And apparently earlier in... Which it seems like... Because they had been there for like a month or something. Right.

And I guess earlier when she found a new water source or whatever, it was because she found somebody's house on the island. There was some crazy... It did. It was like throwing a coconut. Yeah, it was some crazy mansion built into the side of a cliff or something. and that's where they have out the final fight because he finds the house. Yeah.

And she's there. Brian? There's too many, like, coincidences. Generous with the five? He finds out that she killed the fiancé because he finds the hand sticking up out of the sand. That was weird. Which he immediately sees the ring and is like,

oh, my God. Oh, no. It was, yeah, that one, that one just was a happy coincidence. But that whole... And this was Sam Ramey? It did look evil deadish, a hand just sticking up out of his hand. That was the one part that just kind of had me roll my eyes. The whole fiancé with the little Rickshaw boat guy.

Yeah. It wasn't even a big boat. And they found them amazingly on this island. Wow. yeah and then well okay so that i get man i can't i wonder if i was drifting off at the end i can't really remember what what happened at the end where so he she didn't kill him i didn't i don't remember if she actually if he died or because it just kind of fades to black and then all of a sudden she's they're getting the interview

done and she's got like a book deal about how she survived her right ordeal. Oh, yeah, they have to put that scene in the show now. She's taking over the company. Yeah, and then she does the driving down the coast in her little convertible, and then she looks at the screen, looks at us, and then smiles, and then the screen fades to black. Is it like the just the long scene in Barbarian where she's driving in her car?

Yeah. But yeah, no, I think she killed him and then took over the company when she got back, Because now she's had this harrowing story and all that. Which that works because that guy was a dick. Right, right. Yeah, I didn't understand how he ran anything. Yeah, it was a little con. I think the ending was a little convoluted.

And the story didn't necessarily make sense. I mean, there's like some plot holes and motivations that don't really work. So those are the cons, I guess. but I thought Rachel McAdams did great. She's good and everything. The other dude did pretty well too, even though he's playing a dick the whole time. He was good at it.

Yeah, definitely. And the only thing I know him as the maze runner kid. Oh, maze runner, yeah. But he was like Joffrey-level dick, like just for no reason. he was like a seven-year-old you know yeah that's why it was

it was amazing that he was like a CEO or anything like that because he literally could not do anything for himself probably was the son of the of the guy who started the company or something right and he had a gash on one leg

the fuck is wrong with your other leg why are you so helpless I know and it's like if it's not broken pretty sure you could walk, dude. Like, his assistant was the Allstate guy.

And, uh, mayhem. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, Dennis Hayesburg. Yeah. The president from 24. Yes, him. And, uh, and so he's like, he's, he, he somehow ends up with that piece of tuna fish on his hand, the one that was on her face. Okay.

And he tells it. He's like, oh, what, is that? Smell it. And he said, no. Oh, my God. It's like smell it. What a weird joke.

He makes him smell his hand. It does make you feel disgusted and uncomfortable because they do the close-up shot. Yeah. That was a little Sam Ramey-ish, I guess, the close-up stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm, like, I'm sorry you can make Rachel, like, Rachel Adam, Rachel McAll, Adams look as ugly as you want to, but she's not.

Like, that's not going to be an unpopular woman at the office, especially if she's super nice. Right. It doesn't make any sense. And a survivor mark, huh? Yeah. All right. I think that's it.

I guess that's all there is to it. So send some help. On that note, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode. of the horror returns, we'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. Email us at thehorroriturns.com, and if you're interested in found footage and you want to be on our March Madness episode, reach out to us. Let us know you love found footage, and we'll see if we can get you on the show. Next week, it is going to be...

I have no idea. Right, I always have to ask your help on this part, man. As tech horror. Aztec horror What is Aztec horror? I don't know I'll have some I'll have some factoids about the Aztecs

Those yeah they were monsters That shit's crazy Cool Should be fun then Slaughtered people So are we doing like the ruins then The ruins and the brand new whistle Whistle

Whistle Maybe Dan Stevens will show up right now I bet you it's that little The Aztec death whistle Yeah. I really wanted to buy. Yeah. I really is.

You can get those on Amazon. I really wanted to buy one. Get one, man. Is it real or made in China? Well, yeah. I mean, it's a cheapy thing. It's not like an authentic one, but it works. All right, Brian, until the horror returns again.

Good night.