The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #509: The Horror Show (1989) & Psycho Killer (2026)

Episode Date: March 1, 2026

It's killer week. Cool of the week includes The Secret of Secrets, Old School, and The Plague. Trailers are Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma and Backrooms. The podcast spotlight shines on Super Retro. And we get feedback from Spanish Sundown, Pat Caruso, Air Shift, Ricky Becker, Joe Allen, Bjorn van Lent, Josh Wilsher, Amm Hussein, and Adam Bunch. Thanks for listening!  

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And who are we tonight, guys? I know I see Philip. I see Brian. Oh, I'm Lance. Where's Naz? Where the fuck is Nez? Remember that where the fuck is Ammon on the binge cast, Brian? Yeah.

Well, I know where Nez is. Nez is neither with the grandkids or at work. Guaranteed, huh? Yeah. At this time of the day. All right. Well, hopefully he'll pop in. I send him the link.

So, uh, all right. I guess what, without further ado, cool of the week. What's you got, Philip? Uh, let's see. what did I watch this week? Old school. Nice. I was just kind of putting

an old comedy on in the background and that one popped up. I think it's on Paramount. It makes sense, yeah. Yeah, great movie, man. It's been a long time since I watched it. Frank the Tank. Frank the Tank, yeah.

Is KFC still open? Oh, yeah. E-Ease. Very quotable. Love that movie. That's really all I got. I'm almost done with Final Fantasy. The rebirth.

Oh, man. Took a while, huh? Still working on. And I'm on like the last chapter. And I'm kind of burned out. So I hadn't been playing it much. Gotcha. All right.

Cool. So old school. Yeah. All right. Brian, Brian, I've got one. Can I go next?

Yeah, go ahead. I've got one because I've been catching up on a lot of Star Trek the new stuff which I'm really enjoying that but I might talk about that next week. I'm going to go with the book that I'm reading. You guys ever heard of a character named Robert Langdon? Does that name Ring a Bell at all? Sounds familiar. So he's in like a series of books. Some of them got made into movies with I think Tom Hanks.

Hank's played Robert Langdon. And these are, uh, so he's a, he's a college professor that, that teaches like religious, uh, symbolism. And he goes, most of the novels, he's like going all over the country or I mean, all over the world, right, to different countries and locales. And he's kind of solving mysteries. Like the first big book, I think that was a breakout, the Da Vinci Code. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Okay. Um, yeah. Yeah. And it was about like an ancient code and like, you know, not the Illuminati exactly, right? But like people in ancient times like hid secrets. And you had to go from one place to another to kind of solve the mystery. Like national treasure, but. Yeah, but before national treasure.

Yeah. Bigger scale. The books are phenomenal. I'm not a huge fan of the movies. I think it was miscarat. Tom Hanks is not who I'm visualizing with this guy. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I understand.

But anyway, the new. one. It's called the secret of all secrets. And it's, it'll fucking blow your mind, dude. It's, I don't want to get too much into it, but it has, it has a lot to do with like, you know, the most recent findings in physics and how everything's interconnected. And basically, the things that the original ancient people were saying and believing is scientifically coming to be proven. It's like,

basically we're just like in these temporary shells in these bodies and all we are we just act as receivers and we channel you know the great energy like at certain times that's why you have like deja vu and you know out-of-body experiences and that type of thing so it's pretty cool man it's got a lot of metaphysical stuff in it what's that film i said okay that sounds pretty good yeah i think you dig it man brian i've read the other books but it's been 20 years You have any theories on any of that stuff, Brian? Religious stuff? Yeah, well, I don't know.

It's not really religious anymore because it's the current people who study physics. Like a physicist and astrophysicists, they're starting to adapt these theories now. Over my head. I don't know, man. It's pretty fascinating. And I like the way that the... book unfolds because there's like a lot of action in it. That's why I couldn't picture Tom Hanks because this seems obviously really fit. It like swims a lot and jumps out of like four-story

buildings and stuff like that. I don't visualize Tom Hanks doing that, Philip. Come on, my guys. But I like the pacing of the book because it'll it'll, those chapters are super short, right? Like real action packed. A lot of going from, you know, from, from one scene to a different scene across town or in a different country. And then you start to learn about all these secret organizations and stuff like that. And things the government doesn't want you to know, it's like, it's all in here. And they kind of interspers the philosophical aspects of it. Like, they slowly unravel the story, right?

So you kind of get like little hints, a couple of chapters. You'll get another hint. And then you kind of start about halfway through the book. you kind of start to put it all together. So it's one of the more interesting things I've read in a while. And it is fiction, but they do reference. Like, you almost have to carry the internet or chat GPT around with you if you really want to get into it. Because he references like a lot of historical artifacts and their history and all that.

And then you look it up and he's spot on with everything. And like the other doctor that he's working with, it's I guess, like in charge of promoting this theory. She's writing a book about it. And it's like really weird cases. Like dudes that, and this is real, I looked it up. Like there was a 13-year-old soccer player that got hit on the head, and he woke up speaking like perfect fluent Spanish. Yeah, that happens.

The world is weird, man. It doesn't make any sense. No, it doesn't. But I'm, you know, I'm enjoying it. It's a good read. So I can't recommend it enough. The Secret of Secrets. I don't know if I want it to be a movie

unless they hire a different actor to play Robert Langdon. Yeah. It's been a while since Tom Hanks has done that, so maybe they'll restart it with somebody else. Maybe, maybe. But it's my favorite of the book so far. The author's name is Dan Brown.

Yeah. So, yeah, pick them up, fun books. All right, I got three. movies I'm going to talk about here. The first one is I rewatch this one because I don't remember anything of it. I think it was my 31, one of my 31s

a couple years ago. And that's a stream. Oh yeah. Okay, I remember this one. This is made by the studio that puts out terrifier, so pretty much the same kind of practical effects are done in there.

Right. People check into a hotel. and they find out that they're locked in the hotel and there's mass killers in there that are killing them and there's a bunch of cameras everywhere live streaming it to I'm assuming rich people

that want to watch people get killed and it's got like a who's who of horror icons in there David Howard Thornton Dee Wallace Felicia Rose Daniel Harris Tony Todd Tim Curry

Bill Mosley. Wow. Okay. David Howard Thornton is one of the mass killers, but you can clearly pick him out because he's got the art mannerisms with his hands

and stuff like that. So it's it's not filmed found footage style, is it? No. Okay. Hmm. And there's some pretty gruesome kills in there.

Yeah, wasn't it? wasn't it pretty heavily financed through like an online petition or something like that Brian if I remember correct? I think so. I think so and then I don't know if the team that made

Terror Fire was always involved or they got involved after but I rewatch this because they're making a sequel they just announced it Oh okay They're gonna have a bunch of people in that one too Yeah I'm assuming

except slight spoilers. Fast forward a few seconds. The movie kind of ends with Tony Todd as the new guy that's controlling things. Okay. But clearly we're not going to be able to get that version of the movie.

So my next movie I checked out was Wake Up. This is done by the directors of Turbo Kid. Oh, yeah. Oh, I remember that one. That was a good one. It might be a trip then. Yeah.

This is a bunch of activists break into, basically they break into a, what's that Swedish furniture company? IKEA. Yeah, basically, it's IKEA, but they don't say it's IKEA. Ah, gotcha. They even have the scene where the,

these are like young people, activists. They even have a scene where they're having, a food fight in the store with meatballs. Yeah. And what are they like, vegans or something? No, I guess the store is like making their furniture from like the Amazon rainforests.

They're chopping. Oh, boy. They're in there to, you know, vandalize it, and wake up all over the place. And when this is happening, one of the security guards that's on duty is very,

not mentally stable. Sounds hilarious. He already gets chewed out for something he did on the job earlier and he gets threatened that he's going to lose his job and he can't lose his job. Uh-oh.

And then something happens to kind of push him over the edge. Desperation. And on top of that, and then on top of that, he's like a hunting enthusiast. he likes hunting in wilderness stuff these murdering kids in the Amazon

the Amazon I don't know where this is said I think it's said in England possibly okay because there's some accents there but not everybody has an accent so I'm not real too clear on where it's said well look if they're activists right maybe they came from all over

you know like people with a common mission or whatever So they all ended up in that one spot. That would be my guess. So those two I recommend. They're both on Prime. And my next one I'm going to talk about. This one's available to rent or... Purchase?

Yeah, you got you got that. Right. It's the plague. The plague. The swimmers. Okay. Beautiful. shot. I thought

the kids did a good job. If you're watching this for Joel Edgerton, he's in the movie probably 10, 15 minutes. It's like these kids are at a water polo camp and he's like the coach. And it's typical kids being kids and there's

one kid that they kind of bully and they say he has the plague because he has like a skin rash on him. And if you touch him then you had the plague. And there's one kid that he's kind of in with the, with the kids, but he also kind of gets bullied every now and then.

He ends up getting the plague. I guess you can call it the skin rash. And they start bullying him. Kind of a Lord of the Flies type thing, huh? Yeah, but now that I'm older, it pissed me off from a parent standpoint. Mm-hmm. because there is no fucking adults ever around other than the water polo scenes.

The hell is a water polo camp anyway. I didn't even know this wasn't true. Yeah, I guess it is now. Most of these kids are fucking bad. Okay, so I wonder. They're picking on this kid like constantly like saying horrible shit like doing shit to him. and there's never fucking one adult around. But then it makes me mad from that kid's point of view

because that kid has a horrible skin rash. What is he doing? Right. At this camp getting in the pool with everybody. That's a good point. Seems like a doctor might be in order. Yeah, right. So, Brian, I'm thinking maybe it's more of like a surrealism thing, you know?

Like, it's, I don't know if maybe you're not supposed to take. it like totally at face value that there's no adults there right like maybe it's filmed that way on purpose to kind of i guess accentuate the fact that kids are cruel to each other when left to their own devices you know i mean it could be or this this camp or whatever is fucking an incredibly lax because even joel edgerton he's like the this water polo coach like the main bully and he's there 10 minutes right he's like he cusses him out he's like he cusses him out he's like Fuck you. You're not even a real fucking coach anyways. Oh, wow.

And he doesn't do shit. Well, it's not a place I would have said my kids. The life of a water polo person is hard. But the main bully kid, he did a fucking excellent job because I hated his little ass. Was it Joffrey, the same actor? No, nobody got killed in this one. Okay. So I recommend all.

of these movies. Getting hot out there for a polo. Oh, and the music was cool, too, because I believe it's set in the 90s. So they're playing like 90s music, but then the score to the actual movie was pretty fucking cool, too, because I've been seeing on different horror websites that they released the soundtrack on vinyl, so that already told me the soundtrack was going to be pretty cool, the score. Look at.

sounds like you kind of recommend it then low-key yeah I recommend I recommend the plague I recommend all three movies actually okay I'll go at the plague

the plague all right big week man right and I do have that one available to purchase so I'll check it out the plague

all right Brian, do we have any horror headlines this week? We have some, we got some TV news to start out with. Ryan Cougar's X-Files reboot officially gets a pilot order from Hulu. Okay. I'm a big Ryan Cougler, Mark, but do we really need to do this? I mean, do we really need to keep remaking these pre-existing IPs? You said that about Dexter, and that was like,

favorite thing. Xbox could be cool. That's a good point. That's a good point. It is the same, it's kind of the same timeline though, right? Like the same actor and whatnot. And they did explain pretty early where Peter Dinklitch fit into the timeline, by the way, Brian. You fit in there somewhere?

It's easy to fit these little. Yeah, they're going with a new cast in this one. and there was they announced who was going to be in it. Danielle Deadweiler? I'm not familiar with her. No? Oh, so is it going to be a weekly thing,

or is it all going to, like, post it one time, do you think? I don't know. It's kind of weird that it's getting ordered by Hulu since they keep saying Hulu's going to go away this year or going to get merged into Disney Plus. Yeah, I mean, okay, so I have Disney Plus because like I had it and you had to basically buy the upgrade Brian to get the Hulu stuff and you had ESPN on there too, but it's like all on one app. There's like three buttons. So you kind of go into the, it's almost like three channels.

Philip, Philip, Philip called all of this shit, dude. Oh, the CBS all access bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, now we're just doing the same thing we used to do. I know. Yeah, they just... Paying more, probably even.

But you know what? They found a workaround. I'll pay a premium to not have to sit through commercials for movies. I don't mind it so much with sports, although I sure do love NBA, where you don't have to watch the commercials because they show you the, you know, the timeout and halftime shenanigans in the stadium. Yeah, but they fuck you with, like. I brought it up many times before.

If you're a wrestling fan, you've got to pay $2,99.99 a month. Yep. For ESPN premium. And they're only shown one PLE or pay-per-view or whatever the fuck they call them once a month. And they know people will pay it. That's the same thing. I ain't paying it. Yeah, right.

That's how they get you. All right. Let's see what else we got. Becky is going to be a trilogy that makes sense a third movie called The Last Temptation of Becky Oh God Just come on

You know I'm pretty sure I watched the second one But I don't really remember it I don't remember it too much either If I'm being honest Maybe they should have left that one alone Yeah I know But they had so many unanswered questions With the key and everything

They didn't even They showed the key in the second one And didn't even touch on it at all Well, that's what the third one's going to be for Just like the strangers wrapped everything up So neatly with a bow From what I hear Nobody asked for that

Brian, do we Brian, do we have any new In A Violent Nature 2 news? No And I check every day, Lance I know you too Last Temptation of Becky He's going to be directed by

Jen Wexler and star Neil Patrick Harris, which I'm assuming he'll be the villain in this one. Oh, no doubt. Yeah, he plays a great villain. Kate Siegel. Okay. Mike Flanagan's wife, right? Correct.

Okay. Well, I mean, they did it with the toxic avenger, remember? Like, the third or fourth one was called The Last Temptation of Toxy. Yeah. So... Did not know that was a thing.

Yeah, it is a thing. Oh, Mike Flanagan clarified. His missed reboot will not be a reboot of the movie. It will be an all new thing. I predict it's going to follow the book and have more of an upbeat ending. He does. I don't think so. He doesn't do upbeat.

Well, it'll be interesting to see what he comes up with. Winona Ryder's reuniting with Jenna Ortega and Tim Burton She joins the cast of Wednesday season three I heard about this what do you think Philip That makes sense I mean I haven't even watched Wednesday I don't think I've watched season one even

Really? Still on season one I kind of dig it I kind of dig it I love the The dark humor Yeah they have in it. I've seen clips of it.

My daughter's real into it, but I haven't watched much of it. All right. As they used to say, all the news that's fit to print. So, that means, it's time to go where, Philip?

Down to the trailer park. All right, Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. I think that. think this week qualifies. What do we got, Brian? We got a new one from,

what is her name? Sorry, my internet is slow. Jane Schoenberg. Yep. Director of I saw the TV glow. And we're all going to the world's fair, lest we forget.

I forgot. That's why I didn't mention it. That masterpiece. This is her all-new meta-slash-er movie called Teenage Sex and Death at Cam Riasma. Okay, at least it's original. That is a name. The only person I recognize from the cast is Jillian Anderson, X-Files. Yeah, full circle. Well, I started off when Jillian Anderson's talking at the end and she finishes and that girl's like,

uh, what? that kind of summed up what I was watching. I mean, the visual is amazing. Sure. Yeah. Which all her movies, even that World's Fair One had some cool visuals in there. Yeah, I wanted that World's Fair one to be way cooler than it actually was. I know.

Kind of Duddsville, huh? Yeah. I had like one creepy scene. Yeah. That lasted for like two minutes at the entire movie. but I saw the TV glow was not bad. Not for me, but the visuals

were pretty cool. So, I don't know. I'm into slashes and the visuals look cool. Is that what this is? It's hard to even tell what they're giving you here. Well, from what I read, it's like her version of a meta-slashher movie.

Okay. And there's that scene when someone's getting stabbed and the blood shoots up like a fountain. in the air. Right. I kind of had my own theory about this trailer. What's that?

All right. Well, first of all, so I don't know where I'm going to come out on this because, yeah, one of her films I absolutely hated, which was that World's Fair movie. And the other one ended up on my top ten a couple of years ago. So I don't know which version of this director we're going to get. I thought, my theory is this, at the beginning, didn't it say something like a remake or something like that, a weird version of a remake?

Yeah, it said something like that. I don't know what this is a remake of. Well, I'll tell you what I thought, because when I saw that one scene where it was like some flash and they were putting a videotape in it, I thought a videodrome, the David Cronenberg movie immediately. Yeah, but that wasn't a slasher. No, it wasn't a slasher. So what I think it's going to be, and it says meta, I think it's going to be like a mishmash of all different types of like 80s and 90s movies. And I think that's why they had the VHS tape so prominent in it. So I think we're going to get scenes.

What's that? Maybe the synopsis will help us out. Okay. A queer director making a slasher franchise sequel becomes obsessed with casting the original film's final girl leading to both women into a psychological and sexual chaos. Well, I don't know. That does not clear it up at all. Well, it's, we're going to be watching somebody making a slasher.

Ah, okay. So it's a remake of probably a fictional movie in the movie. That does make sense. Okay. Yeah, I was just thrown off when I saw the video. That scene was exactly from Videodrome. So I was like, huh, is this what we're doing? But all right, I thought, maybe it'll have a tip of the app

to different directors that influence this director. Who knows? This one hits theaters August 7. Okay. And our final teaser, both are teasers. You guys want to watch them there on YouTube, or you can go to our Facebook group or Facebook page

to watch them. Second one is Backrooms from director Kane Parsons. This was a, he made these like little short videos called the backrooms

and they were like viral sensations and he got financed by A24 to make a feature-length movie. That sounds familiar now. Does it? I feel like Brian talked about it at some point. Yeah, they're interesting.

It's about a guy who gets, somehow he gets trapped in his endless mazes of rooms. Okay. And things keep happening and the rooms keep changing. Even if he like, I think, if I remember correctly, even when he, like, backtracks, like, the rooms aren't the same as they were before. Okay, that reminds me a lot of a book that I read called House of Leaves. And they tried to make a movie version of it, but it was fucking horrible. Kevin Bacon was in it about two or three years ago.

You remember this one, Brian? Oh, in between the balls or whatever. Yes, exactly. Oh, yeah. The book was amazing. But yeah, that's kind of what it is. Like you go in a house and it keeps changing on you and you can't get out of it. And you go down like these hallways and then you're in a different place.

And I don't know. It's a fascinating idea. It visually looked kind of neat. right going from floor to floor yeah i'm i'm into this because they they got the the kid he's like young i don't know i think he might be like 20 21 okay and he was making these videos when he was a teenager and he has one video series i forgot what it's called but it's this guy that finds this tunnel that goes to an underground abandoned mall and i thought it was actually shot in the mall but the mall wasn't real. He did it all

with CGI and stuff like that. Really? So I'm interested to see what he has what he can do with the budget, a decent size budget. Yeah, I mean, I didn't get much from the trailer but uh, because it was just a teaser. There weren't any

actual people in it. But uh, I think sounds interesting. Anybody that we know in the cast. Oh, Chewetel, Eduvore. Oh, okay. That's easy for you to say. Mark Duplice. Okay.

Creep. Creep, yep, yep. Okay. They're in it, and I don't recognize anybody else. Yeah, with Mark Duplice in it, it could definitely have a comedy bent to it, Philip. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, those are two pretty big names, ish. Yeah, this one's

recognizable. Yeah, this one's getting a theater release also May 29th. This one's also coming from May 24. All right. Hopefully it'll end up on the schedule. We'll see. Hopefully they'll show it in Melbourne, Florida, at one of our three theaters here.

Yeah, these little limited release things are... Yeah, dude. I have a pain. Where do I be? again. But that's what you get when you live in a small town. All right. That's it for trailers.

All right. Time for listener feedback. This week we shone the podcast spotlight on Super Retro. A nostalgic podcast hosted by Dustin Tucker and Will Walk that explores the best of pop culture from the 80s, 90s and early 2000s. The show features energetic discussions on retro gaming, toys, movies, music,

and childhood memories. Man. Sounds like they might get some... Go ahead. No, they might get some Pac-Man talk in there, Brian. Yeah, I've been listening to these guys all week because they've just been bringing up, like, near the end of... I went back from the beginning to listen to it,

and they got a part of the show, and they'll just be like, do you guys remember this? And it'll be like different things, toys, music. Damn, like a time machine. Yeah. That's cool. Super cool.

Super retro. Check it out. How long is the show, Brian? Is there like a set time? Oh, like an hour and a half. Okay. Their newest one kind of took me back, too, because their newest episode, they did like top five ice creams from the ice cream truck.

Oh, man. When you were a kid. always like the red, white, and blue one. You guys remember that one? Yeah, that was the bomb pop. Bomb pop. A little, the gum cigarettes. They brought a one I have not even thought of since I was a kid.

The baseball glove. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was like a, it was like cherry or something. Oh, and it had a gumball in it. Yeah. Yeah. I hadn't thought about that since I was a kid. Me neither.

I know. Look at that. All right. We'll check it out. And then we got Spanish Sundown. Says, thank you for the shout-out. You guys are great. Samuel.

Yeah. Oh, and a huge thanks to Tim Davis from the horror for dummies. The dummies of horror. Yeah. I get stuck on the old name. He just shouted us out on, Instagram. He's been doing like Instagram reels

and he's doing horror movie or horror podcast recommendations and he gave us one. Awesome. Well fucking A. Thanks man. I should say thanks mate. I don't know how my Australian is here. He can tell me though.

Hey Bede, speaking of Australians, Bede gave us a shout out on Bid versus the Living Dead. He said, I think it's through the Patreon page. He said he he recommended the horror returns. So we're getting love all over the place, guys. Awesome.

We're big in Australia. All right. And we've got some behind the scenes on primate. Pat Krustos says, why is it got a shirt on? Because he was cold. Even monkeys get cold, huh? And we've got the gates.

The gates. by the synopsis in the trailer interesting thriller, huh? Another one on my list releasing March 13th. Three friends are trapped in a gated condo after witnessing a crime. Locals hunt them down

blaming them. Well, kind of simple, right? Yeah. Oh, this is James Vanderbeek's last movie. Oh. Oh, okay.

And you could tell he was sick. during the filming of this because he's noticeably skinny. Hmm. And we've got the Scooby-Doo show on Netflix.

Air Shift says I just don't see what the interest is in this franchise. It's an animated cartoon about a talking dog from 1975. Is this really the best idea

out there? Hey, it's got a fan base. I guess so. So I kind of probably could have brought that of starting to remember stuff I posted during the week. McKenna Grace is going to be Daphne.

Okay. I was just you got still want to know what I was visualizing. Is it safe for the show? Probably not. I guarantee you. If there's that big a fan base, Brian,

I guarantee you. There's a beastiality fan fiction out there somewhere. Oh, I'm sure there is. There isn't, there is now. He's spoken into existence. Yeah, I don't even think there were really that many episodes. Like, I read a thing that said Mr. Bean only had like 10 episodes or something like that.

No shit. Well, he had a few movies, too, though. Yeah, like, a lot of these super classic things, like did not have a long run on TV, but they were, everybody always remembers him. You ever see that video of people that realize that that's not the way Mr. Bean sounds? No. Yeah. It's like people reacting.

He doesn't make you sound, right? Brian? No, and he talks sometimes as Mr. Bean and people think that's his actual. Yeah. Kind of like the adults in the Charlie Brown cartoons. Yeah. All right. And we've got John Walker.

Potter is joining American Horror Story. Ricky Becker says, Can't Wait. Oh, yeah. That was in the next to him. Man. Man. Director of that fucking movie Matt

That's right. Yeah. Pink Flamingos. Yeah, the one that, the one Matt picked for us, remember? That was an interesting one. We've got Over Your Dead Body.

Joe Allen says, watch the trip. instead. Bjorn Van Lent says the original was brilliant. We'll watch this one, but it has big shoes to fill. Fair statement.

That's some more weaving. Yeah, that's true. That's a plus. Doing a British accent for some reason. Right. That just blows my mind. It's just like the Crimson Peak movie, Guillermo Del Toro did.

Everybody's British, but Charlie Hunnam's doing an American accent. He's doing Jacks. The one guy that can't do it. Right. On purpose. Counter-Reeves in there. Oh, yeah. Right.

Oh, I also watched Bill and Ted's bogus journey. I was on a comedy game. Excellent. That's a good one. That's a classic. Get you later, evil, dude. evil robot Bill and Ted

Yeah What do we do to fight them We make good versions of us Of course you do And William Sadler Is death Oh man He was awesome

You suck my battleship Best three out of five Let's see In regards to Frankenstein. Josh Wilcher says, I love this Frankenstein horror movie. Jacob Lordy as the creature.

Okay. Yeah, not bad. Not bad casting. Hussein says I love this movie as well. A lot of love some Frankenstein. I order of rumor he's going to be into X-Men. Jacob Allorty?

Yeah, he's like 6'6. Yeah, so he's going to be Colossus. He'll have have to have a Russian accent. Yeah, but he's not the biggest guy. He's tall, but he's... Well, it can't be Wolverine.

We're not going to have a 6-6-6-Wolverine folks. Sorry. That's not fitting with the characters. Right. I can't think who else it could be, Brian. You got any ideas? Unless they're going to cast him as some obscure X-Men character. Oh, man, I hope they don't do that.

I hope they don't go with, like, all obscure... like Z-Team X-Man, you know. We'll see. All right. And we got Queen of the Dam. Adam Bunch says, summarized the Vampire LaStat in the opening credits.

While I don't love it, the soundtrack still rocks. It is pretty good, and I'm not even a big porn fan. Yeah, it's definitely of an age, right? Didn't the lead singer do LaStat's vocals for the movie? Is that who it was?

He definitely did some of the singing. I don't know if he actually did the... Yeah, like, I mean, he wasn't playing the part. But yeah, he did the vocals and the singing stuff. Okay. Yeah. So do you guys like rock star, Lestat? Any interest in seeing more of that?

Isn't that what we're getting in the series? Yep, that's going to be the next season. That was the setup. They had a time jump. Yeah. Fair enough. All right. I think it's going to be like in the, oh, sorry, I think it's going to be like in the 70s or 80s.

So that could be interesting. Another period piece, but in a different, you know, decade from the first two seasons. Yeah, I think that actually sounds like it probably would be better than to have you as a modern day rock star. I think so. Not to say anything bad against modern day rock stars, but when I think of rock stars, I think of like the seven. and he was in 80s. Yeah. Yeah, there was some good stuff, but there were definitely some stankers, too, which we will talk about coming up in our 1989 movie.

Because they had some shit songs in there. Yeah, that's true. Kind of like the movie we saw Philip with the guy throwing Starfish, rubber starfish. That was amazing. All right. That's it for feedback. Our intro and logos come from Steve Carlton from The Geeks. Original Skull artwork from Natsulani.

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All right. on to the featured attractions with serial killer horror. We start out with 1989's The Horror Show, or House 3. Detective McCarthy finally catches Meet Cleaver Max, a serial killer who promises revenge during his execution. Nonetheless, a parapsychologist tells the detective that the only hope of stopping Max for good is to destroy his spirit. directors are James Isaac, also known for Jason X,

and David Blythe, also known for my grandpa, is Dave Ampire. Two completely different movies, okay. Writers are Alan Smithy and Alan Warner and Leslie Bohem. Writing by Committee, Brian. Well, the Alan Smithy name is a name writer. use when they don't want their name credited in the movie they don't like. Oh.

Oh, shit. Wow. Okay. So it might be the same as the other Allen guy. Maybe. Ah, okay. That could make sense. But yeah, he did the Alan Smithy thing

because he did not like. The end result? Yeah. Well, Well, Breon James was doubled by Kane Hauter for several stunt set pieces in this movie. Is that who that was? Okay. Because it definitely wasn't Brian James.

Brian James. There you go. Is it Brian? Like, it's got an O in it. Is that right? Or is that just a... It's Brian James. I don't recognize the O.

Breon. Because I'm like, A. Like a normal person? Yeah. You're not the first person to call Breon. Nor the last. The film was heavily cut

for an R rating. Some scenes were cut down while other scenes were removed completely to avoid getting an X rating by the MPAA. How far we've come. Wow. Although the European cut features extra gore and violence, the fully uncut version was never released.

Some stills show scenes which were deleted and not included. in any version of the movie. Bonnie's birthday scene where blood spills out of a birthday cake, a scene showing Bonnie's dead boyfriend being torn in half, and a scene where Lucas pulls his chest open and his heart is shown. I don't see that movie.

I want to see that one. They already had some pretty cool special effects in this one, isn't that? No shit. All right. Brian, you want to start us off? Yeah, I kind of like this one. Yeah. Yeah.

This is by no means has anything to do with the House franchise. I never recognized it as House 3. Yeah. But it's a fun little 80s slasher movie. It's very much like if I was a pair with something completely different than what we were going to watch later on, it'd be shocker, the West Craven movie. Okay. Because same premise, uh, serial killer. gets caught, gets executed,

comes back from the dead. That's your movie. Except, uh, and shocker, it wasn't a college football player, was a detective played by Lance Hendrick, friend of the show.

Yeah. Maybe we'll get that interview one day. One day. He's still a friend of the show. Yeah. And Lance is, he's pretty cut up in this one. Yeah, he really is, man.

This was 30 years ago. but Brian James he was the selling point because he was hamming it up in this movie with his little yeah yeah

and he was funny one minute and he was sinister the next and Phil brought it up the practical effects were pretty fucking cool all practical there was some gore would have been nice to have those scenes in there especially the scene

because they start to show it where Lance Hendrickson's like pulling open his chest but then they cut away. Right. And there was like some weird stuff that was kind of cool like the turkey. That one was neat.

That was my favorite part. The little Brian James baby that the daughter gave birth to. Oh God. There's some fun stuff in here. And yeah. It's definitely.

not fucking house three because if anybody's seen house four house four has what's his name from the first movie in it William cat yeah so it's like has nothing to do with anything just because it takes place in a house

right so does everything all right Lance what do you think am I allowed to say I kind of love this movie absolutely all right first of all

Lance Hendrickson and Brian James were absolutely brilliant right in a in a so bad it's good way like this is a so bad

it's good movie all the way and then like that third act how it just goes so fucking bat shit crazy with the with a turkey

and the baby and all the weird stuff with the wife it's like really bizarre man um shit, I don't know. I just really had a lot of fun watching this.

It was not what I expected. It kind of started out as one thing, right? Like it was going to be just sort of a procedural serial killer type thing. And Lance Henriksen is haunted by, I guess, what he considered to be his failure to execute back in the day. And it came back to haunt him. But what it turned into was just insanity. Yeah, because this movie goes there. because first of all,

his partner had no business being a cop. Yeah. And that scene when they're going in after him. He has a little chicken shit. He goes this way. I'll go that way. And he was like, man, he's taking out everybody. I don't know about this.

Yeah. Go sit in the car. Wrong job, right? He should have been a barista at Starbucks or something. They went there because I didn't think that they were going to kill that kid. Yeah. And then Max Jenkey. just completely like

chops her head off with a meat cleaver and throws it to Lance Hendrickson. He's he's going through the... There's the chicken, the meat grinder is just legs in. Yeah, he's going through the diner. He's going through the diner and there's all the body parts and stuff.

Yeah. Yeah, I loved it, Philip. It's fun. Yeah, I kind of didn't hate this movie either. It was not what I expected at all for sure. and like it just I liked it for the practicals. It had a lot of

special effects that were really fun to watch. Like the whole turkey thing was insanity and I loved it. I like how all this shit's going on and his family's just going about their day. I know. And then he flips out and they're all like, what the fuck? Like when he shoots the TV, everybody's laughing at the

Elvis style. The comedian. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that was a good scene, right, with a comedian. He's making all those jokes. It was. They played some good mind games.

I was, I was curious as to what was going on. I think Lance Hendrickson nailed it. Brian Johnson was good. Not Brian Johnson. That's the ACDC guy. Whatever his name is. They should have had some ACDC music in here, right?

I know. But, yeah, no, It was a lot more fun than I expected it to be. And I'm looking here. It seems the daughter was played by D.D. Fyfer, sister Michelle Fyfer. No shit. Who the fuck?

All right. Scores? Brian, what do you think? I'll give him to seven. Practicles were fun. Nice. Brian James, he always plays a good villain. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Look through his filmography. he'll be like oh yeah he was in this he was in that Lance Hendrickson played the role pretty good as this conflicted detective and everybody

all the side characters did well too but the main star is the practical effects yeah I think everybody has to has to hear that laugh from Max Jinky because you hear quite a bit through this movie which I kind of liked how they played that off because they could have easily went the other way

and this could have just all been Lance Hendrickson losing his mind throughout the movie. Right. Well, and I think that could have worked too as long as they still had all the practicals going. That turkey just kills me. Lance, what do you think? Seven. Yeah. Yeah, it's solid.

Solid. I was very, very surprised because when it started, I really thought it was going to be kind of boring. and about 10 minutes in it it started to get me but yeah by that third act I was I was all in yeah I'm gonna go seven also I think just for the practicals alone it was definitely worth it and I

yeah I didn't I've never seen this movie uh is it was not ever on my radar but then Lance Hendrickson popped up and I'm like oh or Hendrix whatever's name is and I'm like oh I know that guy and uh and then the other dude the Brian James and I was like

yeah I know that guy too. Right, right. I was like damn, how come I've never heard of this movie? Seems obscure for what it is. We have now. Yeah. All right. And we'll move on to Psycho Killer from

26, brand new. A police officer tracks a killer after her husband, a highway patrolman becomes one of his victims. Director is Gavin Pallone, also known for the TV series finding Carter.

I never seen it. I've never heard of it. Writer is Andrew Kevin Walker, also known for seven. Huh. Wow. The project was in development for over a decade

with Andrew Kevin Walker's original script being written as early as 2007. What? All right. In 2009, Fred Durs was attached to direct, and Eli Roth

was attached to that movie. I know. Right. It's out there somewhere, Brian, in the multiverse. Prop. All right. Brian, what do you think about psych killer?

I unfortunately was not feeling well this week and could not get out to see it. That's right. It was limited release anyhow. Lance, you see it? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Guys, my life is way too busy right now to make it to Disney Springs for a, for a movie. Now, if this had been like the new original A-24,

never before made, you know, like something earth-shattering, I would have made it out there, but we may have a short review tonight. All right. Well, you didn't miss much. I'll tell you that. Oh, okay. It wasn't terrible, but it was just, it was a straightforward, almost more of a psychological thriller. Like this was, this had, you know, Ashley Judd, and what's his name written all over it.

Morgan Freeman? Morgan Freeman. Yeah. Like, if they had been in this movie, it would have made total sense in the 90s. Okay. Well, but I like the girl that was in it.

She's the same one from... Georgiaina Campbell. Yeah, the same one from our movie last week and from Barbarian. Right. That movie last week, Brian, of which we can't remember. I know.

Cold storage. There it is. There you go. She's also in a black mirror. Oh, okay. Makes sense. Yeah. I like her.

I think she's good. She was definitely the shining point in this movie. I kind of like the killer too. Everybody else was like, I don't know if it was the writing or the acting. It just seemed very straightforward and dry. It was like they were reading lines. Oh, no.

I think a lot of that was the writing, though. Like, everything was just so on the nose. So it was a little rough in that department. There were no twist and turns. It was super straightforward. The guy is a satanic psycho killer because he's a satanic psycho killer and that's it. So I guess no real spoilers there. Although, we'll talk about some spoilers at the end.

Yeah, what you see is what you get. what you get. Looking up the cast and he even has a generic name, the satanic slasher. Yeah. Pedro said, Pedro said it went from an eight to a three

while he was watching it in his mind. Yeah. It was probably the ending. They didn't, they didn't exactly stick the landing. And there was like an after, it wasn't an after credits, but it was like a,

a scene after like the finale, you know, to kind of wrap it up. that didn't really make sense or need to be there at all. What? They never show... We got to talk about it in spoilers. Yeah, they never show the killer's face.

Okay. But he is an intimidating dude. He's very big, and he's got a gravely, like, he's probably like a professional wrestler or something. He's a big dude. And he definitely comes across as very evil. Let's see Who was in this movie The guy from

Lance what's your favorite movie Of all time? Yes A clockwork orange The guy from the clockwork orange Oh Malcolm McDowell Nah he's in this movie Okay all right

He's the head The head Satan worshipper Is he in the movie or is he just in the movie Yeah not for very long That whole setting doesn't take very long and weird things happen there. Huh. Sounds interesting.

Yeah. But yeah, basically, like, the, the guy at the beginning of the movie pulls this dude over on the highway. And the barbarian chick is his wife. She's also a highway patrolman. She comes, parks on the other side, and they're talking to each other, little sweet nothings, what are we doing when we get home tonight, kind of a thing. on the radio

and she's like, do you want me to stick around? And he's like, nah, I got it. And then get shot. And so she's trying to track him down the whole time. And it's,

it's your, it's your basic cat and mouse thing, crime thriller. I think I would have liked to see more, well, um, more detective work. Okay.

Like, they did have a cool little clue thing going in the newspapers through classified ads. but there wasn't like there was a moment where she figured it out but there wasn't really a moment for the audience to figure it out it was like they showed this thing and then two minutes later she solved it and that was it the killer is played by James Preston Rogers

and what I did find is he was approached by WWE to become a wrestler and I think he signed a contract and was in the process of training and then he started getting movie roles and they saw where his career was gone and led him out of his contract. So I don't think he actually became a wrestler. Yeah. I don't know what his face looks like, but he is ripped up and huge.

Not the kind of sateness you want coming after you, huh? Yeah. Six, five and a half. Jesus Christ. Like he was super and nobody was just going to like take that guy's gun away from him or whatever. Yeah, no shit. He killed one guy with a sledgehammer. That was pretty cool.

All the kills were in like slow-mo. Okay. And it was, it was a little slow in between the kills. But I kind of like the feel that it had to it. It was, like I said, I think it just, it needed a little more fun and a little more to detective work. It was, it took itself very seriously. Hmm. Well, it was written by the

writer of seven, so. Okay, that tracks then. Yeah, it just the dialogue though was not good. Really? Was it the delivery though, maybe? Ah, I think it was the actual. I think it was the actual dialogue was kind of the problem.

Okay, well. They're like, hey, you need to go to this place. Okay. And then that was like a video game, huh? Super. Yeah, it was, it was it was a lot like a video game, actually. The whole movie was. Super straightforward. But it was okay.

I didn't hate it. I didn't love it either. I don't know if it's worth going to the movies for, but maybe catching on streaming. Doesn't sound like it. Let's see what it is on Rod Tomatoes. Yeah, probably not good. Psycho Killer is a 10%

with a 36% audience score. So the audience didn't like it either. Yeah, pretty brutal. That's rough. It's pretty forgettable. I mean, if you want like a generic crime thriller, it's not bad to that. This is your movie. Cold storage, 78%.

Get out of here. See, this is why I don't pay attention to ride it to me. I don't either, man. I don't either. Check out Melania. It's got like a 98 audience. score and a 6% what would you

what would you call the other one like any any political movie does that yeah I know so polarizing right the critics are all super left wing yeah critics that's the word I was struggling for good luck have fun don't die is got 83% I've heard good things about

that one actually that one looks fun the new trying to fill out time here yeah the new Chris Hemsworth heist movie Crime 101 has got an 88% really

that didn't look super great but maybe I don't even remember he's been in some weird action movies that just sort of go under the radar they like to do that once they make so much money and make being Thor

that he just does whatever I agree yeah a lot of them do that well I'll tell you what I'll give it a I'm going to give it a five and we'll Right up.

Fent Stradler. Yeah, I'm a fence straddler on this one. Although I'm leaning more on the side of climbing off the fence, so. Uh-oh. 4.75 maybe? Yeah. Spoilers? But spoilers, yeah.

So. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Yeah, they never show his face.

And he, Michael McDowell is the, the head Satanist guy. And so he just sort of comes across him in his travels. The guy is traveling from California to Virginia, I think. And then just murdering random ass people along the way because he's an evil Satanist slasher. And so he comes across. this this house of satanic folks but they're satanic like uh we're going to do drugs and have orgies satanic right okay well what's wrong what's wrong with that you know and then and so i guess this guy i guess the the satanic slasher is like well that's not that's not my kind of satanism

i want to murder folks and so he kills them all and sets the house on fire yeah that sounds really dumb really i'm not i'm not sure what the motivation is for killing them or that uh brutal at least the kills were pretty brutal yeah i'll give them that like at even even the gunshot at the beginning was right kind of rough like it was pretty impactful really really realistic yeah so that it was it was very gritty and uh and they did have some cool scenes now most of the kills were in slow motion And that's kind of silly. That sounds cheap, man. He murdered all the people,

all the satanic guys with an axe, though. Like, they're, they're, okay. Mid-LSD trip and an orgy. If you got to go, that's a good way to go out. And, uh, and he just starts, like, hacking them in the guts with, uh, with an axe. He's turned into a bad trip pretty quick, yeah,

smashes Michael McDowell's head from behind and a, like, he's just laid, back in a chair and he smashes it right on the top of his head and it splits open like a candlelobe. There's that. And then, so I guess his whole, his mission, this whole movie was to open the gates of hell. And so what they find out his plan, they thought he was going back to this church where this, this old satanical. serial killer was like a mass murderer.

He murdered a bunch of people at this church and then got arrested and killed. But this guy's using his name and they think he's going to go back to this church. But what he's actually doing is going to Three Mile Island with a bunch of explosives. And he's going to cause the nuclear reactor to melt down and burn a hole to the center of the earth. Brian, what the fuck is happening right now? And, uh, sir jimmy crystal plan. Yeah. And, uh, she, she is the, the trooper that's been tracking him down because she wants revenge.

Okay. And the feds are not listening to her at all. Uh, they keep telling her to go home. And she's the only one that's actually finding him. Right. She actually does have an encounter with him halfway through the movie, uh, where he, she finds him in a hotel or in a motel room and he like throws her out the window. and stuff.

And she's still alive? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's first floor. Yeah. Okay. He, she catches him by surprise, but then he like pops out of the closet without weapons and they get into like a hand fight and he ends up throwing through the window and getting away.

Yikes. Pedro, I see where you're coming from, brother. Yeah. And, uh, let's see. What else? Oh, so throughout the movie... Does Scooby do show up? I mean, this is...

Throughout the movie, they've got some radio background noise playing where it's like AM radio kind of stuff where they're doing like talk radio stuff. And there's this crazy lady that keeps coming on there saying that she heard that... And it's only a couple of times with this particular lady that comes on there, but the whole radio thing is... method throughout the movie.

Okay. And she's like, well, they've got this secret prison in Death Valley and they're creating these human monsters and I heard one of them escaped and that's the satanic slasher or whatever. And it sounds totally ridiculous. This is kind of like a coast to coast with George Norrie. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And so it sounds like ridiculous like it was going to be. totally fake thing, you know, just people having hysterics because some of the stuff

that they were talking about sounded a little more serious. But then at the very end of the movie, after they kill him at Three Mile Island somehow, might as well have gone to Chernobyl. Yeah. It's as crazy as this is. Well,

except he gets shot in the arm and in the, like in the chest, but not heart side. So you don't really, know if he's dead. Of course. Yeah, got to save room for a sequel. But then the last scene

is like this convoy of cops and stuff, taking him back to Death Valley to this secret prison. And they're like Mr. Reeves, who is the old serial or the old mass murderer from the church who apparently did not die.

That was him all along. And so they've been holding him prison in this Death Valley thing and they're taking him back there now. And then it cuts off. Brian? It was kind of a silly last scene that didn't need to be there. Kind of want to watch this movie now.

I kind of do too. I hate to say it. Guilty pleasure type thing. Yeah, it's just, it's really slow. I don't see how with all that shit going on in it. Well, that was kind of the whole movie. Was it a seven-hour movie or what? God damn.

Yeah, that was, that was, That was kind of the whole movie. And yeah, like I said, it was just kind of straightforward cat and mouse, a little slow. Acting was not awesome. Writing was worse. I don't know, but I like the killer and I like the girl that's in it. Take that for what it's worth. Brian, we got to start having some more reviews by Philip on here, man.

So that I'm going to explain the whole movie. Jesus Christ. I usually suck at it. It explains it so we don't have to watch it. I usually suck at that. Well, is that a wrap, guys? I think that's a wrap. Yeah.

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And next week, it is going to be meta week. Speaking of meta, Brian, everything falls together, huh? Yeah. So it's the brand new screen movie, which actually is playing in Melbourne, Florida. Well, I hope so. They're projecting a... I think I read like $60, $70 million opening weekend.

I would not doubt that. I would doubt that. Yeah. Kind of like Avatar. Okay. And 2011's detention, which I barely remember. So I'll have to rewatch this one. Yeah, I remember that one at all.

Philip, can you take us out until the horror returns again? Good night. You know,