The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #510: Detention (2011) & Scream 7 (2026)

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

Join us for a week of self awareness at the THR studios this week. Cool of the week includes Paradise, Man on the Run, Star Trek, Insurance, and Blood Star. Trailers are Scary Movie, Faces of Death, and In a Violent Nature 2. The podcast spotlight shines on Boos and Buds. And we get feedback from Maxson Saxo, Pedro Nunez, and Eddie Fright. Thanks for listening!   

Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everybody, to The Horror Returns.

I'm Lance, with me as always. My co-host, our co-host, your co-host, you know him, you love them. Brian, Philip, Pedro, and Nez in the house. What's going on, guys? All right Always happy to be here Nez

How's the airline industry these days, man? Well, for me, I hate it Because Uh-oh My truck My vehicle that I drive around Is Keeps breaking down on me

But other than that, man, It's going good But just I need a new vehicle It's, I'm tired of it Breaking down on me But I'm only going to be here For a minute

Because I got a I got the grandsons and dinner on the stove. Nice. Was that last episode you guys did? Psycho Killer? Psycho killer. All right, Philip, you were the only one that saw it, right?

I watched it last night. I have thoughts as well. I watched it when it came out. So, uh, what do you got to say about psycho killer? Haven't seen it. I loved it. I thought, I thought it was, it was really good.

It was, it was really good. Color by number. I liked the way the guy looked. I liked how he sounded. Yeah, there was no really, Philip, we can't hear you. Sorry, there wasn't. There wasn't, the story was,

it was just like, they just hit record and go. And then I didn't like, I didn't like the CGI blood when that one scene when he started killing all that, that Satan Orgy cult or whatever they were. Yeah. Malcolm McDowell,

I mean, I love him, but he just did, I don't know, maybe he needed He was there for the paycheck. He was there to buy a house. He was only in a new car for like five minutes. Yeah, he was just there. Good for him.

No, he's a good guy. If you guys ever get a chance to meet him, yeah, meet him. He's good. But it wasn't the greatest movie, but I enjoyed it. I was like, just, entertain me. It was short. It wasn't

it didn't draw me out and I wasn't sitting there board at all. It was just me, my buddy, his son and like two other people in the theater last night. So, well, we actually, we got there. It was at 7.30. I said, I said clearly, three for psycho killers.

Oh, okay, did it do. Theodore 16. So we can go sit down. Movies going. I don't know. What the fuck is this? was some movie called C. Mio or Mio C or I don't know what some I don't know what it was some kind of crazy Kevin James

Yeah Because he popped up on the screen My friends had already seen Yeah that my friends already It's Steve Cycle Killer and went this ain't it So we got up and we walked out And we looked at our ticket stuff And it said solo Mio and they were like

Oh man so we had to go back tell that lady and she didn't know what to do so she had to get the manager she switched to the... What the fuck? We ran back over to the theater we were supposed to be in

as soon as we sat down, boom, the movie came on. So we missed all the trailers and everything, which was all right. Well, you'll see them a thousand times.

Yeah. She was definitely young because they're all young in that environment. Oh, yeah. It's just a bunch of kids and everything. I mean, you get the rock.

tickets give you the right ones. Yeah. How hard is that? What do we do? I don't know. Go sit down in the completely empty theater that's showing this move. And you should have got some coupons for your inconvenience too. I mean, I would have thrown up there. You know, you got to you got to get performative on these people sometimes

for that free movie. But, I mean, it was okay. I mean, it wasn't the greatest movie, but I did enjoy it. I thought the kills were there. I just really like the killer. But Ness, was it, was it horror? Yeah, it was a slasher film.

It was a horror film. It is, but it started more. So one of the, I know that that's the cashphrase. That's why I didn't do it from Bart Simpson with Ness. It's not a horror movie. So here's the deal. It was the thriller at first. I don't care what Ness is.

It was a thriller, the first 10, 50 minutes of the movie, like a seven kind of movie. The trailer still counts as horror. All right. All right. Yeah, okay, fine. That's fine. I'm not going to die on that hill. But here's the thing. It started off great. There was this opening shot of like, they're on this icy road. And then you have like a trooper. And I'm thinking, you're getting all these artistic shots.

And I'm like, all right, here we go. You know, here we go. Like the reflection in the sunglasses and stuff. Yeah, David Fincher behind the lens on this one, you know. And then as the movie is progressing, it gets worse and worse. Like when they reveal the plot what this guy wants to actually do, it's just so car. It's like, what the, how is he going to do this? Like, how does it even?

And that's when it lost me. I was like, what the fuck? And then at the end, it just completely falls off the rails. When he by himself, right, takes over this like power plant in like three mile island. Somehow they end up in three mile islands in all places. And then he starts just like killing every because somehow he develops a super. I guess he's Satan is, so I guess Satan's guiding him on this mission. And it's just ridiculous, you know.

And then there's a middle of a, this guy's like six foot five inches. He's like a big wrestler kind of guy. And he actually has a, what I would call pretty fair fight with, what's her name, Georgina Washington. Or Gina Campbell, like they have this little scuffle in the hotel. Yeah. And they're actually going. He should have killed her right there.

That was. But they're going. They're doing like model or model. It's like a fair fight. And I'm like, get the fuck out of here with this shit. Like this guy would have broken her and a half. But she gets him in the throat with the Bible of all things. I was like, all right.

I'll take that. But you know what? But I did like the ending of that scene. He just gets frustrated and he lifts her up and he throws her ass out the window. That was funny. That was a cool scene right there. Is it meant to be funny? Roll the out.

No, it wasn't. But that's the Scream 7 vibe right there. Spoiler alert. Um, okay. And so, and so, um, so then she just has like a little scratch on her eye. Like after that whole fucking battle, she just has like a little scratch on her eye because they show her in the next scene. She's just cool. She's not limpy. She's not hurt. She's just like, no sounds the whole thing. Um, but I will say how we just went to the next scene after she gets thrown out the window and then he jumped out the bathroom window and then we skip that. It's because

there's no head detective for her to bounce shit off of, man. That was the biggest downfall of the movie, I think. That's right. It did the other guy. State police? Is that what they were? Yeah. Were they state police? Doesn't she like violate all kinds of like ethical codes that she took when she first took the job?

Like she tries to infiltrate like an FBI investigation where she goes into the building and essentially confunts. And the guy just laughs it off because why wouldn't he? Right? This is like the local state trooper trying to like cross all these lines and stuff and anyways.

Oh, she has no job at the end of this movie and she gets that one lady FBI agent fired. Oh yeah, the one that gave her out. But keep my name out of it. Yeah, that one. But yeah, it was, it got ridiculous at the end. And what

the thing about this movie that a lot of people don't know is that it was a developmental health for years and it was one of those scripts that everybody loved and it was this big thing. And then this guy, this director finally got it. And he just kind of messed it up and that was that's the movie we got this was this was kind of like supposed to be like a big deal of a movie so right that's it you know it was

yeah because all these fools on ticot are ranting raving about it and i was like okay let me go see it because it was at least playing in my area so i go and see it yeah pedro it started out good i like what they were doing but then when we find out like you said what he's his his the plot it is what he's his master plan and i was like really? That's what we're doing here. Kind of silly, huh? How easily he just rolled right

into that nuclear power plant? I was like, there'd have been no way he could even got past the front game, but I don't know. I don't care how big you are. It sounds like an Austin Powers, Austin Powers villain, Petra. I liked him.

Towards the end, yeah. I like the killer. If he had just went out of senseless killing spree like he was doing to all the way to the end and minus the power plant, I would have been, I would have been,

I would enjoy it more. I did like it. It made me laugh. But I was like, man, I wanted a little more. I mean, this guy seems to be a big super killer. And then when we get to the end, when he gets taken back to that prison in Death Valley, I was like, okay. That was weird. Like, what was that about?

I mean, she was giving a kill shots. They were letting you know that he was the, the. the mass murderer from 30 years ago or whatever. Right. Oh, I see. Yeah, that's another thing that was weird. Yeah.

Which, did they mention anything It doesn't really make a difference one way or the other. Why he kept robbing these pharmacies. Did they give any kind of reason for that? They said he was taking all the drugs. Yeah. Yeah. Just that's not the question when he would take.

That was literally it. He was just taking the drugs. drugs. You know, they live for the pleasure. I guess that was a... Due as the I wilt will be the whole of the law. Oh, that's right. That's right.

Alistair Crowley. So, I mean... Yeah, so essentially he might open up a big portal. Well, he was going to if he would have did what he did, but I was just like, uh, okay, but I don't know if if they make another one. There was a good movie in there. Yeah. I'm not making another one.

You said they are making another one? No, they're not. Oh, okay. I don't think it did. One and done, huh? Yeah. But he was a killer. Like, I liked that guy as the psycho killer,

and I like the design and the voice and all that stuff. There's something there. I liked how he looked. He looked awesome. Yeah, they didn't put enough of a movie together around it. It was done very lazily. It was like, There was, yeah, there was a violent nature vibe to it.

So Lance might like it where we did follow the killer for not as long as in a violent nature, but there was some long periods of times we were following just the killer. And that was pretty cool, you know, because, you know, he, for whatever reason he likes to sleep in the, what do you call it, the closets and shit. I guess he got some sort of trauma himself. Okay. And then he wouldn't, what I like about it too is that he wouldn't kill, like, for what he had to rule where he had to throw on that mask on whenever he would kill.

and they would actually show him throwing on the mask before he would attack. He just didn't always have it on, which is cool. I thought that was pretty original. He didn't have it on when he shot that cop in the beginning. That's right. I don't know, but I don't know. We didn't see him put it on. We just saw boom and then he took off.

But he would always throw it on, though. Even for like the smallest detail, that's one of the things that stayed with me. Even for like the smallest little thing where he was going to hurt somebody, he would have to throw it on. That was pretty cool. Yeah, because when he shoots our husband, we're seeing it from her point of view, so he could have threw it on when he went back to the car. Yeah. There was a movie there.

I mean, the guy that wrote it, man, I felt, I was like, okay, guy that wrote seven, cool, right on. Yeah, I don't know, maybe this was just a throwaway story that he did. Yeah, he had the story in his desk, blew the dust off of it and handed it in. It was like a first draft or something. Like there was no meat on it. It was just really straightforward. The other thing I liked was all the conspiracy theorists people. Every now and there we'd hear like radio shows and all that.

I liked all that. That was kind of leading up to something but never went. Yeah. Other than it just mentioned, other than it mentioned the mystery prison out in Death Valley. That was about it. I wanted more. of the band that and was

inspired by what they thought was the original killer and were making songs and stuff. This could have been a really cool, like, limited series. Yeah. Was that a real band or was it a movie band? Probably a movie band. Yeah. Probably a movie band.

The band, Pedro, that they said the killer, they were basing off the original killers. Oh, yeah. I was, I think it was a movie band. yeah yeah i mean i like i don't really listen to that death metal black metal whatever whatever they want to call it these days like i don't know i can get into the death metal stuff man i don't really get that like i like the melodic stuff i'm not really that into like the cannibal corpse and shit like that

is that is that the same animal corpse is good now not nothing no this is this is harder than that shit okay but i mean i liked it whoever did the music cool right on if you guys are listening I like the song. Yeah, the music in the movie was pretty awesome. Yeah, I liked all that. That's a plus. I was just kind of, okay. Yeah, do a little more with that, with that band.

I did like the idea what they were doing and how they took that guy's character and then put it in their songs. So obviously this was somebody that everybody knew because it was all over the little news clips that they kept showing. But it was just like, this movie was a big mess. It was a bunch of scenes just thrown together. and some kills and then the end. Yeah, like, I feel like a lot of stuff needed to get fleshed out a little more. Yeah, so I don't know. If, if they made another one, which would probably just go straight to VOD.

I mean, I'll watch it just to see, but. This is going to buy this one when it comes out on physical media. I have feelings going to buy this one. Okay, of course I will. I like it. It's not. not necessarily right next to black Christmas he's gonna have to put it right next to the black Christmas somewhere over here but I'm just like oh man I was like I wanted a little more I mean because

I read the synopsis and all right this sounds good yeah it sounds great on paper yeah but it was it was just it was a big mess it's honestly a little better than I thought it was going to be going into it. I didn't expect much. And you gave a five. I didn't watch any. Yeah. That that's where I'm at. I'm in the middle. I'll give it a five. I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go too low. Pedro's a little lower, I think.

No, I would say a five. It was, it was a kidder made up for it. The killer was cool. And then I would say the first 10 minutes were, we're interesting. So, yeah, I'll go with a five. Brian, what do you think? I'd give it a four. I was fucking bored. Okay. Not bad. We were watching a road

trip of the serial killer and then another road trip of the state trooper following him and they just seem to be meeting up at the same place she is the she needs to be a FBI agent or detective or something

because I don't know what she's doing being a state trooper because she is finding him every fucking time it's like when Jason Statham showed up in a Fast and Furious movie how he they were looking for him but he would always show up where they're at.

Yeah. That was her in this movie. The same concept, huh? Yeah. I was like, I feel like you make, you make her a detective, and then you actually give her a partner to bounce stuff off of. And then suddenly you've got a more traditional, you know, paint by numbers thriller. Yeah, it would have made more sense if, would have made more sense if they would have brought her on as is like a special agent or advisor to the FBI. and then she teamed up with the other female FBI agent.

Yeah, that could work. Or like a Christopher Walken or something. No, I think they were both ex-military because even the killers using like this Grimberet, like train, using the sun to know where the guns at and then blocking it. It was weird when he's in that house. Yeah, that was out of nowhere.

At a nowhere, she's like, top-notch expert sniper yeah sniper rifle did I miss something after he killed Malcolm McDowell and all them that he walked upstairs did he see her did he know she was on time that I'm saying that's the

he just sensed her he knew he saw the the glint in the window where her scope was reflecting the light which oh okay because I was a little silly he walks upstairs takes his mask off sticks it on the edge of his gun

and six at the window, then the shot comes. Yeah. Like, how did he know that? He saw, he saw downstairs. There was like a little flash

on the window. And he's like, oh, that's a sniper. Well, she should have learned from, she should have learned from Leon and a professional.

He said, never, there it is. Keep that thing open. He said, open it when you're ready to shoot. Get a little kid to follow her around,

uh, Nez. But yeah, it was a five. I'll give it a five. I mean, I'll buy it when it comes out. I enjoy it. Trying to shoot him through the fucking window.

Just wait until he comes outside. Yeah. I mean, he eventually was going to come out. And, but I don't know. It was, the other thing that kind of pissed me off a little is when he just like sprinkled gas all over the house. But then when he gets outside, the whole house is on fire.

I was kind of like, oh, okay. But, wow. Well, they may see that again tonight. Yeah, five. Just, you can wait. I mean, you can wait. Lance. It wasn't worth driving to Disney or wherever the hell you go to Lance to watch. Not worth Disney's a trip, huh? Yeah, definitely

not a theater worthy movie. But if it pops up on shutter. I lost two hours of my shift last night, leaving early to go see it. Life happens. What's your cool of the week, Nez? Oh, that show Paradise. I don't know if you guys watched any of the season two is out. Okay. I haven't seen. Yeah, season two. Season two.

I like what's going on. I think there's four episodes up now. I'm only like three in. I haven't seen the latest episode, but I like that. For you reality show, guys, if you listen to East Society, Theo's deep into Survivor and all that. But one of the guys that's in this, he was in previous seasons, but he lives here in the town that I live in. They're having a watch party for episode two for Survivor 50.

So I'm going to that. That's cool, man. Later in the night. I didn't know Survivor was still on. Yeah, this is season 50. So it's still going. Season 50. God damn.

Yeah. So we're going to go down there and watch the episode two with him. And he said he's going to be down there and to answer everyone's questions. He was actually my son, my youngest son. He was his music teacher. So he's a good guy. name is coach so I'm gonna go down there for that but yeah paradise if you guys haven't watched that I like it it's pretty good I assume what's in all it's uh I assume it's on

ABC I don't know I'm just I'm just strictly streaming but I'm watching it on uh Hulu so but okay I'm gonna roll for a little bit let me know when you guys go back to when you get to scream 7 I got some stuff to say about that so I'll be back all right All right. All right. What you got, Pedro? Not I've been pretty busy with work, but I have been watching some other stuff. I started my, so I did a, I think I shared this in the last episode.

I'm doing a thing, me and my brother are revisiting the MCU where we cut it up. We cut the films and the shows up. I think it's like three a month. And we're supposed to catch up to like Secret War. So when we get to Secret Wars in two years, we've already have completed the entire MCU. So just kind of revisited in the movies and just kind of seeing how special like that phase one was and how like it's nothing like that anymore. Like they lost. Yeah.

Somehow they lost the plot, you know. It's just a lot of great storytelling in that first phase. A lot of great character development. We just watched the first Captain America, the first Avenger last night. And it was awesome. It still holds up. It's a good one. I wish that Hugo Weven wouldn't have gotten so pissed off of wearing that makeup

and wouldn't have bolted on the MCU, but he did a great job. Yeah, we're going to watch The Avengers sometime this week, the first one. So yeah, so we're doing that. That's pretty cool. And then I also saw a couple new movies. One of them was kind of a bummer. I saw there's a new documentary on the Little Girl from Poultergeist, Heather O'Rourke. Oh, no.

A trailer for that one. Yeah, man. I mean, I decided to watch it because I'm a completest and I like those, you know, the franchise of poltergeist and, you know, but, I mean, it's a documentary of her life. And obviously, she passed away at 12 years old. And the way she passed away is so infuriating because she was misdiagnosed when she had some sort of like stomach issues, like, like her intestines were like knotted up. And she was diagnosed with something else. So eventually her, her intestines kind of burst. And she passed away. you know, she pretty much poisoned herself is what happened. But the doctor tells the mom, like, this could have been prevented. Like, we do these, this is like a two-hour surgery if she would have been diagnosed properly, you know. And they go through her career, you know, she started off in commercials and they talked to a lot of her friends. You could also tell because her career wasn't very long, that they kind of stretch for time.

They started interviewing a lot of her friends and how will she be today. it's very sad. And then at the end, because this happened, she passed away in 1988. She was 12 in 1988, 89. And they interview the mom now,

her mom. And she, like, at the end, she has a very, like, it was a traumatizing, like,

breakdown. She's still very, I mean, I'm sure when, I mean, I'm not in that situation, but I can only imagine how difficult it is

for a parent to lose a child, right? That's kind of like the worst thing that could happen to anyone. And so she still has, like, a breakdown.

And I'm like, fuck, why did I buy this? Because I actually bought it, by the way. I couldn't find it for rent. So I bought it because I have some Amazon credits. So I watched that. And then I watched the Palm-McCarnie, The Wings documentary, which was cool. It's an Amazon Prime. Okay. I saw that. It's called Ben on the Run. Right. And I'm a huge Beatles fans. I'm sure a lot of people are. So, so that, that, that documentary covers Paul McCarney's life after the Beatles, like the first year after the Beatles, the first, the first 10 years post Beatles career. And there's a lot of like, like, catharting moments for Paul McCartney because he kind of says goodbye to John.

And he talks about how like right before John died, like they actually had a meeting. They hadn't talked in a long time. And for the, and from 1969 to 1980, there was a right. And, rivalry between both of them. Like if, like the media was started, try to stir the pot. Like, who has the best album, you know, who's doing more. And Paul was always behind. Paul with wings, like he didn't get the, I didn't know it's because I wasn't alive back then.

So I didn't know any. So it was like he did. Now, now those albums are beloved, right? They're great. They're classics. But at that time, people would almost, the media was making fun of, of Paul because Wings was kind of cheesy, you know, it was all melancholy and love songs and all. Yeah.

And then, and then John was actually having albums where he had something to say, you know, like legitimate. So, so Paul always felt like he was in the shadow of John. And there was a lot of animosity there and resentment. So the documentary follows all that. Very interesting. If you're a Beatles fan. And then at the end, of course, they cover how, how John.

And then it also talks about Linda McCartney because she was. a huge influence on Paul. You know, and unfortunately, I mean, they had a very long marriage, which is rare for, you know, being a musician and a rock star, and she passed away from cancer, I think, like, the late 90s. And so they talk about that, you know, how he kind of processed that. So he's gone through a lot. Like, he's had a lot of loss in his life.

So that was cool, too. I mean, it was interesting. And that's pretty much, that's been my cool of the week, other than the horror movies that I've been watching. I really watched Hard Ice last night. It still holds up. It's a fun little movie. You know, because I forgot that Cuba Good Engineering's son is also in that one too.

But yeah, that was been my cool of the week. All right. So the McCarthy documentary is probably the at the top, you think? Yeah, I would say so, yeah. Okay. You know, if you think about it, they're kind of like a in sync back in the day. that's going to piss a lot of people off that's a controversial statement

don't you think Brian John Lennon is just Justin Temper Lake that's rough I don't know about that I kind of get what Phil's saying Oh oh Okay

Well they were both pretty pussy-wift in their own ways So we could agree on that Yeah I don't think Phil's comparing quality of music I would hope not No, but they're kind of a boy band. Yeah, kind of the same scenario, I guess, in that way. I got you.

Although I'm not a diehard Beatles guy, so. All the little girls fading at the concerts. Yes, I think Phillips on to somebody because the demographic, right? The demographic that they attracted was all the little girls and, you know, teeny boppers and whatnot. I think I think for older people, especially older guys, they didn't really become big to their post career, right? when people started appreciating the actual music. But when everybody was in that bubble in that time, it was all the teeny bopper girls that were going after them.

Oh, yeah. So, yeah, especially original Beatles stuff was just bubble gum pop, man. Yeah, it was all covers. Yeah, it was all covered. As bland and generic as it good. They weren't even very good musicians. If you listen to like Isaac Hayes talk about them and stuff. Yeah, they were basic.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Anyway, that's enough shitting on the Beatles. Oh, man, I don't even know what I've got. My not cool the week is I drilled through a fucking water pipe at a hotel at work. Uh-oh. That was a lot of fun.

Yeah, no, sent water everywhere on the third floor. And it was dripping all the way down to the first floor. It was like that scene in the shining with the elevator, right? Except for blood, it was water. Yeah, it was water. I was like, I'm never going to financially recover from this. that's what insurance is for actually right think we got away with no damage nice it might not even be a problem so i guess that'll be my cool of the week that is i don't know man i

this this this this week has been fucking nuts for me i feel like i woke up in another world so that's where i'm at right now i haven't watched a whole lot of anything other than that all right But in moments like, that's why in moments like that you got to hold on to those little silver linings, you know, like you stated right now. Maybe you're, even though it was a nightmare, what happened to you is still, you know, maybe you'll get Scott free as far as anything you have to pay out of pocket. And even then, that's, either way, it's not coming out of my pocket because I've got insurance. So. Okay. So your cool of the week is insurance. My cool of the week is insurance. Which is rare.

That's a rare thing. I hate those motherfuckers. I think it's a scam that was. It's just straighted out, straight up mob tactics. Sure. You're going to pay us for a little protection, you know? And you don't have a fucking choice in it. You have to do it.

It's a straight up scam. But in this case, it might have worked out of my favor. Okay. But also keep in mind that it would be nice if they just wrote you a check. You know, they're going to investigate, you know, through how and high water for them to pay the least amount of money. It's just the way they are with everything. Oh, yeah. you know but that's a

that's fine with me you that insurance company go fight it out with the hotel insurance company and leave me the fuck out of it I was ready to like leave the job

it was on my first thing that I was doing that day and it was I've never done some stupid shit like that man I was so mad it's been heavy from these mistakes yep

yeah Brian you want to go next or you got to laundry list? Other than the fuck, what were we talking about? Insurance. We're talking about psycho killer.

Psycho killer. Other than that, I only seen one movie. It was a little indie horror thriller called Blood Star. Blood Star. On this one on Prime. Okay.

Doesn't star anybody you would probably recognize. I didn't recognize anybody. It's essentially a girl driving. She's driving somewhere for some reason and she's crossing through the desert. It gets pulled over by the sheriff. Sheriff's already

coming off super weird. Asking weird questions. And she pulls over to a gas station. Town people are kind of fucking weird. She runs into the sheriff again.

He's trying to basically finesse her out of some money, you know, saying, oh, all of a sudden you have a busted tail light. And then she goes to the ATM. Her card doesn't work. And then shit just keeps getting weirder and weirder with the sheriff and the people in the town or seem to know about the sheriff, but don't really give a fuck about what he's doing. And then it kind of spirals from there. And, yeah, I can't really.

going to much because it kind of went into a whole other aspect that I wasn't ready for. So it was a good little indie horror thriller. Ness would say it's not horror. Of course he would. It sounds like a very bad day. Blood Star. It's called Blood Star. Okay.

All right. Let's see if that's all I got. I didn't wasting my time with Psycho Killer. Uh-oh. All right. So Blood Star is the Cool of the Week? Oh, I also, I also did learn to play schism on the base from Tool. That's definitely one of my cool of the week.

That's a lot of fun to play. Damn, that's got to be hard to do. I like it. Not as complicated as it sounds, but it's a fun one to play. I've been jamming it. Man, Tool, did you have to learn the Fibonacci sequence or anything like that to play it? No, I don't know. man, they've got a badass bass player.

I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but he's a monster. And that's, I, bass guitar has been my thing for the past year or two. Nice. We ought to start a band, a boy band. I know, let's do it. I think we missed the boat on that one. All right, I've been diving deep into Star Trek. All right.

So I'm watching, I'm watching the new stuff. I'm watching the old stuff. I'm catching up with Voyager because I've been going through all the original, the four original Star Trek series. So I think I've got, I think I've got a new order of favorite captains because I was always a, I was always a captain, uh, Cisco guy who wasn't even really a captain. He was just running a space station because he was kind of a rebel.

But I think Janeway, like the dong song, Cisco. That, that's the one. No, I think, I think, I think after Kirk, uh, Janeway's my favorite, favorite captain, man. She's like, she's the best of all captains,

right? Like she's super tough. That was Deep Space 9, right? Yeah, Cisco's Deep Space 9. Janeway is Voyager. You know, Kirk is the original enterprise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you got Picard.

But yeah, to me, Picard's a little too flaccid. I don't mean to say that in a bad way. Flacid. Yeah, well, like, he's like, super, you know, talk to everybody. It's not hard enough, Pedro. He does kind of look like a penis.

How many, how many, how many of these start tracks is there? Like, how many, if I wanted to start tomorrow, what am I looking at? I mean, how many, how many is there? It's hard to say, dude, because technically if you wanted to start, I guess you'd start with, with Enterprise, like the, the original one with Scott Bacula in it, which is like a prequel. And then after that, I guess she'd go into Strange New Worlds, which is one of the newer ones that I'm watching. And that's the adventures of Captain Pike, who was the captain of the Enterprise before Kirk took over. So we're meeting a lot of those characters, right, from the original series like, you know, Spock and Nurse Chapel and all them.

And I'm really digging it, man. I think they're doing a pretty good job. Obviously, the graphics are a lot better than the original series, you know, where you can sometimes see the stream. That's always a problem with having prequels. One of the problems with having prequels after the original, especially many years after the original, is that they look better than the original, which shouldn't be the case, but they do. You know, you know what? That is the case, Pedro, but I will tell you that they do a pretty damn good job of, like they do really good set design. It really looks like the original enterprise, just kind of modernized.

you know, in digital, but I think they did as good a job as they can, right? Because if you go back and make it look like super cheesy to make it look like the original, well then now it becomes kind of like a parody, right? So they actually even had one episode on the holodeck where they, you know, they kind of went out of their way to make it look like an old

sci-fi show, you know, where you could see like sticks holding up the arms on the aliens and stuff like that. But it's very self-aware. You know, I think they do a pretty good job with it. And what I like about the new shows, the discovery, which was the first of the new ones, that to me, that one went a little bit off the rails is getting a little bit too, man, I hate to say, I don't want to say politically correct, but it's like some of the storylines

were going out of their way to be inclusive, which Star Trek is, don't get me wrong, from day one, Star Trek is all about inclusion, but it was kind of like getting. Yeah, but when they. Modern day politics in it. Modern day, there you go. That's exactly, yeah. Every movie, every TV show, they're just so in your face with modern day politics. Here's what you should think.

And it drives me nuts. I try not to get fun, but I'm pointing that shit out every time it happens. So they found a planet where everybody was using their pronouns is what you're saying, Lance. Precisely. Yeah, they had a whole season. They had a whole season. deal with that, Pedro? Yes.

So that got a bit much. All right. So I wasn't, I wasn't, look, dude, I'm never going to miss an episode of any Star Trek show, but I wasn't as big a fan of discovery. I'm loving Strange New Worlds because it's giving you the prequel. And I think they're doing a really good job sticking to canon, which is hard to do because there's so much fucking material out there. It would be so easy to fuck up and say, oh, no, this person was this person's cousin.

but they've kept it straight, man. And there's a lot. Believe me, these trinkies are fact checkers, man. So they're doing a great job. But I'll tell you what I'm really into. I don't like that. I don't like when they try to always like this person's this person's nephew or cousin. And they do that a lot.

Fan service, fan service. That's called fans. Fan service. Fan service. Okay. So what I'm really enjoying, though, is the newest season, which is Starfleet Academy. and I was super worried about it, right? Because it's got a really young cast, you know?

They're going for that boy band demographic. That's the one I heard was super wokeety woke. What's that? I said, that's the one I heard was super wokeety woke. I totally disagree. Absolutely not. Really? No, no, no, no, not at all.

No. Now, they do have a character that's a hologram, which is kind of interesting. So do you give a hologram a digital creature that was created by human being? rights like a normal human and allow them to take place Is that one of those stories in the show?

If it's if it's Anna de Arm is from Blade Runner I you know what Well you've already got people like data you know I mean what's the difference between a hologram and data Yeah and they get into a lot of discussions About that which I like but I think

I think that it's a product of its time Right so what's one of the biggest headlines Right? So they're dealing with AI and I think it's in a fun way in a good way. And I think, I think the characters are, they're growing on me, right? I thought these were all going to be a bunch of fucking irritating, you know, teeny bopper kids, but they're not. Like, I'm enjoying a lot of the storyline. So I'm happy with the Star Trek universe. I think they missed a beat with Discovery a little bit. Like, you know, as we discuss, we don't need to beat that in the head with a hammer. But I think they're finding their beat again. So very

happy with the Star Trek universe right now. I saw the cover of that one, the Starfleet Academy or whatever. Yes, it looked terrible. Diverse group of kids laying on the grass looking at the sky. Yes, like one tree hill. This is going to be fucking garbage. And that's why I was so fucking worried.

But I'm happy. I'm happy with it. I'm enjoying it. So yeah, my cool of the week. Did you ever watch that movie? The Michelle Yow movie? Yeah, I didn't like it. Everything. Which one?

Yeah, it was the one about the Star Trek movie. Oh, the Star Trek movie. Yeah, it was the... It came out and nobody talked about. Mm-hmm. When was that? I know. I don't even like this.

It was a couple of years ago. It deals with the, like, the Black Ops part of Star Trek, right? Like the super secret. We don't follow the code. That sounds fucking cool. We don't follow the prime directive. We do whatever we want to do. And if somebody finds out about us, we have to kill ourselves instead of reveal that we're part of Starfleet.

And I'm like, that's so on Star Trek, so I didn't dig it. But, you know. Did it have the name Star Trek or they try to get cute with another name? Like, I've never even heard of this movie. It was part of Star Trek. It was a, yeah, it was on Paramount, Section 31 or something. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, and it was like black guys. lot of interviews from like old CIA guys and like you know those Mission Impossible masks uh huh that shit is real

way way less technologically advanced but they have realistic looking masks like Bush senior like sat down and with a

for a conversation with a CIA person that was wearing a mask and had no idea. No shit. Like they can... So maybe that Jim Carrey shit is just a dude in the mask.

I don't know. Could be. Hey, he was in the mask. So I wouldn't have seen that. I saw it. It's fucking weird. All right. Brian, do we have any horror headlines?

I scrounged up a little bit. First TV news. Yellow Jackets. is going into production with its final season. Oh, about time. Okay. Yeah, they should never say- about that show.

I've never seen the show start off so hot and just end in the thump like that show did. Like, just, they just dropped the ball on it. It never went anywhere. It never moved. It was literally just the same shit over and over. Yeah, like I feel like it should have been just like a one-season limited series thing.

Yeah, I'm not caught up on it. I just heard from everybody. just went on way too long. Yeah, I'm with Brian. I watched the first season, and about two episodes into season two, I said, I'm tapping out. Yeah, me too, that's what I did.

I think I might have finished season two, but I honestly can't remember. Can't remember? And I definitely haven't watched season three. Is there a 13th? Yeah. Yeah, that's the last one. The fourth one is the final season,

so there's a third season out there. It got like the Walking Dead after Negan, right? like a whole season of one one one uh issue of a comic book basically yeah they were dragging it long he's 15 my kid and he's been uh he's been getting caught up on the walking dead so he's going through that whole yeah it's great until you get to nighan in my opinion yeah he's uh he might be at nighan now i think i'll ask him i'll say that first season when nigen was entertaining right yeah brine like but i think but i feel like I feel like for us who, you know, obviously we have more insights.

Our brain is more apt to having better character development. We want more than Negan. But for like a cardboard cutout like Nigan was, I think 50 years. Like 15 year olds eat that shit up, right? Because that's how their brain is. It's like, oh my God, this guy is so cool. He walks around with a bat and he's talking shit all the time. And so for them, I think Nigen would get over.

Like it's a big deal. But for us, we need a little more, you know, character development and insights. Like, man, this fucking guy killed the whole show. you know, which he did. But, well, yeah, so I think for teenagers, that's he's like perfect. I think he's a cool character, man. Like, and I, like, I like, I like the character of Negan. They just, I don't know what they did with it.

They just like, I think, I kind of feel like they were trying to, they were trying to get away from the one and done every season villain. They were trying to give their villain some, something extra to it. And it just went way too long. Yeah, so I feel like... Maybe the Walking Dead should have gotten back to the fucking zombies. Yeah.

No, I also feel that it was a combination of Negan, the character, being so like, he's so different than everybody else on the show. But also, it was the fact that they, and we have a wrestling term. It's called getting heat. That's when the villain, like, beats you up and beats you up. And you want the crowd is getting antsy for the big comeback from the good guy, you know? So, but it seems like Negan just beat up on Rick and his crew. crew for like, like two straight seasons just beat on them and beat on them. And there was never any comeback. Felt that way. People just got tired of it. People was like, nah, fuck it. We're gone.

And then to top it off, like, like, like, Negan's comeuppance was such a letdown. After all the shit he did, like his comeuppance was like, okay, he's going to be locked up here and shave your head ball and start bouncing a tennis ball. Whatever. That's going to be your character. And I was like, no, come on, man. That's right. I forget about that. And he still was the same one dimensional character. Exactly. So anyways, so it was a combination of a couple of things. It wasn't just Negan the character. It was just the fact that he never, nobody ever got a comeback on the guy. It was just over and over and, you know, we're looking for escapist

entertainment. We don't want to have a shitty week. And then we see the good guys get beat on as we're trying to escape our own shitty week, you know, so give us a little something. So anyways, that's a big problem with the walking dead later on. good call Dan Tractonberg director of prey and basically all the recent Predator movies

says it's not off the table to return to the Cloverfield universe to direct movie I hope that wins the tournament we got coming up on that's my pick to win it all hopefully I love that movie I'll watch it a thousand times

yeah huh that's that you're an obscure thing thing. He's like, hey, the Cloverfield universe is still open. What the fucking lead leader universe is still open? I don't know what we're talking about here.

It has a big fan base and he directed the first one from what, yeah, he directed the first one. So that's probably what he's talking about. He did 10 Cloverfield Lane. Oh, that's right. 10 Corpfield Lane, yeah, which wasn't even a Cloverfield. They retold the script for made it a Cloverfield.

Was that the John Goodman one? Yeah, or the creep. He was a creep. Didn't hate that one. Let's see. Jennifer Tilly teases more Chucky and Tiffany projects are in the works. Oh. Nice.

Chuck is over-exposed, in my opinion. No, not in my opinion. I can't get enough Chucky, dude. He's my favorite horror icon of all time. Where would they take the characters next, Lance, in your opinion? Anywhere, dude. And don't say space. And don't say space.

Space. Put him in any. Bring them in space. Chuckie versus Jason in space. Sure, why not? And bring Freddy in there for fun, right? Yeah, Freddy's the ref. Or maybe Chuckie should be the ref and another Freddy versus Jason.

Yeah, I can see that. I want to see some Chuckie commentary. Let's see what else we got. More casting news from Mike Flanagan's The Exorcist's movie, Sasha Callie, who played Supergirl on the Flash movie and was recently in that Matt

Damon, Ben Affleck movie The Rip, the crime heist movie on Netflix. Yeah, which I like, but that's a good movie. I feel bad for that. You know, I watched it. I don't remember it. I feel bad for her because she had a lottery ticket that she completely lost when James Gunn took over the DCU or whatever.

Like, she was going to be the Supergirl, I guess. and I was fine with her as Supergirl Right Right but she lost that that meal ticket And now she's back doing regular movies But it's kind of messed up Because that's happened to I always trip out on that like man that's messed up

Because you know they're telling their families And like they had that interview with the guy from the Eternals Was that one guy the Indian guy Was his name? He's a comic Johnny Yeah he was talking about how like he went to the gym And he bowled up and he had signed down for six movies

and he was looking forward to the paydays and it's like now it's like not they got reccon they got reccon they don't exist anymore it bombed so all those steroids I mean gym days for nothing hey you can do both all them all them

all them chicken breasts like Hugh Jackman says so he gets into his marine shades like I did a lot of chicken breads that's how I do it yeah right he's also good friends with the rock let that tie with the story yeah the rock's

totally clean, right? Everybody has a forehead that size. Sure, sure. It might be clean now since he lost all that muscle. Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen him lately? No, I haven't. No. He booked up a little. He doesn't look as

freaky as he did like three, four months ago. He booked up a little bit, not as as much as he was, but yeah. He got a movie. He did look like he lost 100 pounds. Yeah. I thought he was doing that sequel to Dallas Biers Club with a Matthew McConaughey.

Or the machinist? Yeah, that's how small he got. Or the machinist with fish and milk. Yeah, the machinist. Matthew McConaughey has never really recovered from that. He's always looked a little fucking. A little off still, right? Yeah, even the now.

I think it was that movie. I think he just lost too much weight. Yeah. Fucked with his shit. Oh, fucking what your body messes with you. What's his name? said you got hurt bulking up

Tom Hardy for Bain Yeah really Mm Putting all them size and muscle on and like hurt his body I'm sure

Yeah it depends on your frame I mean that's a little guy Yeah He's a smaller guy though So maybe he shouldn't Been carrying that kind of weight Yeah I could see that

All right Nicholas winding Refing Is that how he says name Yeah that guy is out of his mind Yeah, what about him? Yeah.

He says his Maniac Cop remake is finally moving forward. Oh, Jesus Christ. He's been working on that forever. It'll be an eight-hour mini-series, Pedro. Remember that? Recurring news stories. The best thing about him is that, remember when he was interviewing William Friedkin? And then he's talking about his movies as being classic.

and Winterfrix is just laughing at them. Laughing at him. They haven't been out long enough. He's like, oh, we have the classics, like the Exorcist and Drive. And then WinnerFrix is like, wait a minute. Like, you know, what's your, it was just, because he has a high opinion of himself and his R.T. Party film. I guess so, yeah. Drive's a great movie.

Don't get me wrong. But I think Drives is the only good movie, to be honest with you. The next one sucked. Yeah, only got for gifts. Yeah, that one sucked. Oh, boy. With Ryan Gosling. I tried to.

I try to avoid him. You know, I don't even know that one with the kid from a stranger thing. All the way. No, driving with Ryan Gosling. Hmm. Yeah, Ryan Gosling. Yeah, yeah, I don't think I've made it all the way through that movie. That's a great movie.

I like it. It's weird, but it's a good movie. I didn't love it that much, man. There was a big hit for him back when it came on 2011. Yeah. Because of Ryan Gosling. Take him out of the movie. Is it still good?

Oh, good point But named to hunt in instead Because he didn't He didn't hardly say anything in the movie Yeah, he's playing that stoic Like mystery Like killer and stuff That's his whole thing

So he's about three lines in the entire movie Wow But Justin Long in there Why not? Get him both up, give him some steroids They had Some chicken breast Right

Special ops ex-military cop and night patrol. I don't know. Yeah, pushing that. All right. And finally, the Mithrigan spent off soulmate, which was taken off the schedule a few months ago, seems to be back on because it's got a MPA rating of rated R for violence,

strong violence, sexual conduct and language. Really? This is the one that's rated R? Yeah. Well, it's about Sex Robot, I think. Oh, okay. In the Megan 1.

Megan 1 was rated R if you buy the Blu-ray because they put all those other scenes in back in, but yeah. Right. I thought it was that little fucking robot that she like went into at the end. Okay, so this is like a sex robot thing. That's cool.

Yeah, this is in the universe. Phillips all about it. I mean, it's at least realistic. When the robots go fucking nuts, it's going to be a sex robot. Makes sense, right? Who gets beat down too many times and has had it. Yeah. Why do you think VHS got,

that's going to be the terminator? Philip, why do you think VHS got so popular in the day? Come on. Yeah, there it is. And that's the noons. All right. So that means it's time to take a little trip down to the trailer park.

Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What is our first new trailer tonight, Brian? All right, let's get the bullshit out of the way, and a violent nature, too. You ain't fooling me. Now they're going to run. That was a shout out directly to you, Brian. I thought of you immediately when I saw that tale. I saw what I seen in the, what I seen in the trail, sorry, Pedro, what I seen in the trailer was the exact same fucking thing.

Yeah, same here. They just said they were going to run. Yeah, same here. It seems a little more lighthearted, though. They didn't you guys catch that by the tiny bit? Almost a parody. It seems like we're going to, it seems like we're going to have more of a linear story because there's a lot of like shots from other people where the first trailer was the whole, the whole sounding point of the first one was like, this guy's walking. and he went to see it from from his POV.

It seems like this one is more of a traditional slasher, you know, hopefully, hopefully. Okay. But Lance you did make a prediction, I think, where you said that in your dream scenario, because you love this fucking movie for some reason. You want the story to pick up. You want the story to pick up exactly where the first one ended, right? That would be like, you know how she looks and then there's no one there? Right, right.

I'm good. And then the movie just stands, you said that it would be nice if it was like, okay, that killer comes out in the, the first scene of the new movie, and then we're on our way. So we'll see that. I would think so, right? Would make sense. I mean, that would, yeah, that would be following the rules of like the old 80 slasher

movies because they would always pick up right from the last scene of the previous movie. It would at least give you some kind of point to that endless car scene at the end of the fucking movie. Oh, God. Fucking half hour's story about her husband. That was the worst one. Maybe they'll show the bear. Maybe they'll show the bear in this one. Maybe.

They have a budget for a CGI bear. this. C.G. That was, after the entire movie, at, like, that scene,

I was like, after it ended, I was like, what the fuck was that? Right, right. Misdirection. I loved it.

I loved it. I loved it. But yeah, it'd be great if they picked up. I think I actually yelled out, fuck you to the screen. I believe that. Yeah.

I believe it. Well, we'll see what they do. Because this guy's invincible, it seems like, so it's just going to be more killing of teenagers and people that are in the woods. I did. kind of like the first one though

like there's something about it that was interesting and different and so maybe they make up for the missteps in the first one and this one although making it lighthearted is not I think the way to go

they're kind of stuck they're kind of stuck because the selling point of the first one was to what turned a lot of people off just the walking and the walking and the walking sure sure now if they want to fix that it's going to turn into your, you know, basic slasher movie, which is going to help anybody.

So they're going to, I am interesting to see how they get out of this because there was a lot of criticism with the, just with the walking part and just kind of like meandering. So we'll see how they fix it. You know, maybe it's a more traditional slasher, but then you're just going to be like all the rest of them,

you know, and we'll see. We'll see how they do it. Yeah. So I'm interested in weird, weird dance they're going to have to do here. No release date on this one. It's still in post-perts.

production. Okay. He's got to add it more walking in is what he's doing right now. Just adding more walking. Yeah, see, I really didn't think there should be a sequel. So I'm not a fan of the idea of doing one. It almost, I hate to say it, Pedro said it was a little more lighthearted. It almost felt like a parody in the trailer while I was watching.

Yeah, that's the vibe that I got. Well, we already have a movie. We're going to talk up. Two movies tonight that came off as parodies to me. That's true. That's true. Spoiler, right. Our next trailer, we talked about the teaser a few weeks ago,

and here's the official trailer to faces of death. Okay, okay, this is when I was worried. I was worried because I was like, there's no way the original thing is going to work. It's literally impossible, literally. Right. But it seems like it seems like it's going to be very meta. It seems like it's going to be some sort of, like, killer

that kind of has them in a room and they have to watch this shit. Maybe for all we know, the killer's going to throw him a tape of the original faces of dead and that's how he's torturing them. So it seems like the movie, it seems like the movie knows what it is. You know what I'm saying? So as long as we're there, we're going to be, I thought they were actually going to just do another phase of death. I'm like, not in this. It's not going to get over. It's like it's impossible. The cat's out of the bag on that one, you know? Yeah.

From what I understand. Go ahead. From what I understand, the synopsis of the movie is somebody's recreaty. the kills from the original's movie and filming him, putting them on the internet. So I think we are going to see... I think we are going to see clips of the original movie and the movie. Huh.

The guy that falls into the alligator pit, we're going to see that scene. And then something just happens to have a camera with... This will show the monkey getting hit with a hammer, please. I hope my bear, I'm going to get this gator to suck my don't. I can't believe I felt for those when I was a kid

You know the dead giveaway was that The narrator the narrator was named Dr. Francis B. Gross If that pun didn't give it away to me as a kid, I don't know That's I was like, come on, you know But no, we all ate it up like you said Yeah Yeah Now that I sell a trailer, I'm excited for it.

I'm not going to go to the theater for it because that's weird sitting with people that are, I'm going to see it on, you know, on streaming, but I'm definitely going to check it out. That was my biggest takeaway was it was like in theaters on so and so. And I was like, right. Man, I don't know if this is like a theater movie. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. I don't know.

Unless they. If Brian puts it on the schedule, we just have to go. Well, yeah, but unless they really like. Not according to Lans. Not if it's only playing in Disney Springs. And like do something, they're going to have to do something interesting with the marketing

to get people into the theaters to see this. Because I think, like, if this comes out in the theater next week, it's going to fucking bomb. You think so? Well, I don't think this is a shooting for $50,

$100 million opening, weekend. Yeah. All right. It's already got a little, it's already got a little buzz to it because the, the teaser,

I guess, was controversial because it got pulled off YouTube because it allegedly had clips that were considered too real for YouTube. Dude,

I'm all in. I'm all in. Good marketing. Okay. All right. It is good marketing. Yeah, like smile. I'm all in.

Brian, I'm all in, Brian, just for the nostalgia factor. Because we couldn't wait to get our hands on the newest Faces of Death, VHS, and watch it when our parents didn't think we were watching it. So just for that alone, man, except anything called Faces of Death, I got to see what this is all about. And so I've got faith. I've got faith. I think it's going to be a good watch. Now that I saw the trailer, I got Faith, too. I think it's going to be, it's not just going to be a bunch of clips of people dying and shit.

be there's an actual story to this so i'm excited for it yeah i can't say i can't say i can't say i'm excited i just hope it doesn't suck yeah there you got that's fair enough that's where i'm at yeah i'm looking at the i i d i mdb synopsis a woman employed by website content moderator as a okay as scar sorry as a website content moderator comes across a series of violent videos reproducing death scenes from the film. Okay. I'm interested. I really am. I'm really interested in this one.

Love the moderators. I'm permaband from Reddit, by the way, because I called somebody a retort. Uh-oh. That might do it. From all of Reddit? Damn. I'm not sure how it works.

Merit is that subgroup, but I don't think of it for all of Reddit. No, probably not. All right. of death hits theaters April 10th. This did have the Shutter logo on it, so if you don't see it in theaters, I'm sure in a few months it'll be on Shutter.

I haven't had Shutter in a year, so that's not going to help me any. I'm going to have to I'm going to have to rent it is what I'm going to have to do. I'm a fan I'm a fan of Shutter, Pedro. I like it because you get AMC Shutter and IFC.

So for me, it's a lot of bank for the buck you know yeah yeah that's like the least expensive thing but with me was that you know how we all had to go through that whole like i guess you could say cork cutting it was always not cord cutting anymore yeah i had to make a decision and shudder was the one that had to go because it was like i don't really watch it i get it um a lot of the originals were kind of like letting me down quite often too like they used to have a good original shutter movies and then they went through the street where it's like they all suck i was like i'm out you know i'm not a fan of joe bob briggs so

I don't care. Keeping that show going. Yeah, well, they've got a lot of old, real schlucky horror movies on there. They do, they do. Yeah, but I still collect physical media. So that's not something, you know, that I probably have it already here in my house.

Yeah. On to our final trailer, scary movie six or just scary movie? be the judge. It said to the trailer that promises yeah, an IMDB it's got a poster saying scary movie six.

Okay. That was my highlight of watching to watch screen 7 right here, this trailer. That was the best part of my experience. Nice. Yeah, the trailer promises to cross all lines because this will be R-rated. And the Wayne

brothers are back. That's the big cell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even since the second movie. even the other one what's what's the other ones marlin and Sean

and Martin are the ones John I miss Sean I didn't see him forever well there's Damon Wayans junior you know maybe they'll get Jim Carrey in there with that face he'll be the scariest part of the movie

Jim Carrey's dead I thought that was supposed to be I love this trailer I'm very excited they were able to feel like a thousand franchises into this trailer somehow, especially towards the last minute, they were just hitting you with with one, you know,

IP after another, boom, boom, boom, boom. That's what they did. I like, yeah, no, it was awesome.

And I like how, yeah, it's going to be very, you know, unpolitically correct. You know, they had the whole pronoun joke right in the beginning. Right.

Then they had a one about like, oh, all white people are supposed to be racist. Just give me a hug. And then they hug and stuff. Yeah. So they're not, Yeah, they're not going to fuck around.

And the way it's already said, we're going to go for it. They're swinging at both sides. I like that. Yes, exactly. And so, yeah, no, it looks fun. As a writer. Well, we're going to go half gay. Why not all gay?

And he comes out wearing the cowboy. And then the subway scene that, you know, mocking like the last one of the screen movies with all the franchise of the characters, you know, the IP characters. You know, your ladder phase, Michael Myers was in there. And so it was cool. I really liked this one. It really is, I felt like it had a lot of heart. Like, like people that were made, made this film, made it for horror fans, made it for the fans of the first two movies, which are considered classics.

And there is a story here because the Wayne's brothers did lose this franchise to the studio. And it wasn't, it wasn't on good terms. And for a long time, I think Marlins said in an interview, he was like, look, we're the Wayne's brothers. We'll let them fall on their face when they make the sequels that don't have nothing to do with us. you know and that's what happened you know they weren't they weren't as good and then they came back to them so they they won in the end but uh i'm very excited for this one yeah i i i kind of am too actually it feels like old school scary movie you know like i think that uh it's definitely got some some nostalgia bait in there but uh uh i i think they might be able to pull it off and if anybody

can make it work. It's the Wayans Brothers. It's kind of like Weird Al Yankovic, right? Like, he doesn't do it so much anymore. He hasn't really come out with an original album in a while. But I'm a huge mark for parody. Like, even all those terrible ones, right? Like, not another teen movie and disaster movie and all those terrible, terrible parody movies. They had a lot of those for a while, but they haven't done one in a while. I think it's overdo, man.

We're due. Yeah. Bingo. Yeah. And who better to bring it to us than the Wayans, right? Yeah. Used to be the sucker brothers back in the day, but now it's the Wayne's brothers. is a hit, then they're going to make white chicks too and don't be a menace to.

Yes. Well, there you go. White chicks is all my favorite movies. There you get. Yeah, no, and I like the, like, when Anna Ferris has the Jamie Lee Curtis thing going from the latest Halloween movie and she's all, like, traumatized with the wacky hair. That was pretty funny. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of little, like a lot of little Easter eggs all over these movies.

If you're like a real hardcore horror fan. And from what I understand, and there's still a lot of, more that a lot more that they were parenting that didn't make it in the trailer. Mm-hmm. Oh, of course. Yeah. I hope. Yeah. I don't want to see the whole movie in the trailer. This hits theater is June 5th.

Summer season. All right. Summer Blackbuster. And that is the final trailer. All right. On to some listener feedback. This week we shine the podcast spotlight on Booze and Buds. but like B-O-O-O-S, not like B-O-O-Z-E.

Booze and buds. That sounds like my Saturday night. A horror comedy podcast. It fastically examines horror movies and stories with a drink in hand and Anne. Mary waiting in the wings. Okay, there you go. Double meaning. Phillips,

whether you're a horror fan or Wednesday night or Wednesday night or Tuesday night or Tuesday afternoon. Whether you're a horror fan or just in it for some laughs and thrills, booze and buds is bound to be your new go-to listen. So grab some booze and your bud and let's talk for. Nice. That's clever. I like it. All right. Let's see.

In regards to Get Out, Maxon Saxo, that's got to be a fake name. Says great film. I was going to say, is this the same person that always says great film? That's a classic. Michael Arnaz says classic. Maxen Saxo. That's like a porn name. Pedro says, how come the audience is,

audience never has feedback on the show itself. shit you pearl harbor me with this one, Lance, what the fuck? Oh, no. The feedback you guys get, no one ever talks about the show. There's a lot of inside jokes on the show, like Night Swim. That's not horror presenting counter arguments to our opinion, but no one ever talks about that. Let me take over really quick. All right.

I told, first of all, Lance, I told him off the record and then he throws it as a, you know. But that's cool because I was going to. Fair game. I was going to bring it up anyway. So, yeah, no, that was my question because we want the listeners to let us know that. We want to interact with them. You know what I'm saying? And it's important that we get feedback pertaining to the show, not just talking about movies or.

So, you know, if anybody's listening and, you know, write some comments on the page, you know, the Facebook page and tell us how we're doing, who you don't like, who you like. I don't care. We're all open to the feedback. Oh, yeah. That way we'll get some hate mail. That's how that goes. That way we know. That's okay, though.

It's all about bringing out an emotion. That's all you know. That's what this show's about. So, yeah, that's what I would like. Because it seems like we don't get that kind of feedback. It's just always about other movies and stuff like that. So, yeah. So if you guys have feedback, please share it.

Even the guy that we're always cloning on, the one that says all these movies are classic, you know, defend yourself, whatever your name is. And so, yeah. Max and Saxon. But I do have other questions that I do. wonder about this show. And it was just in my head, the other than my mind.

All right. You might, you guys might not even know the answer to this because you guys been doing it for so long that, but, but why do you guys always thank the person that did the design and, and also, because it's so unusual. There's no other podcast that does that. Really?

What does, you guys, you guys have a whole shtick, right? I want to thank so, you know, the person that does the design. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the design people and intro. The people that have done stuff for us. Right, but it's like, is that going to be forever? Like, I don't know.

For ever. No, because I've never seen it. I've never seen that with other podcasts. It's just a question. Because you guys don't, who came up with the original, with the intro song? That's a pretty cool song. What do you guys get that? That's Steve.

That's, that's, oh, okay. Well, then I guess. So, so yeah, but, and then another thing, too, I think you guys have been around a long time, which is great. You know, I feel like sometimes you guys don't honor your own history, like you should. Because I think you guys are, you guys are coming up on the 10 year anniversary, I think, if not already. Which is amazing, which is amazing.

And it's like, you know, it would be, I mean, I know we're all busy and it's probably not going to happen. But in a perfect role, it would be nice if you guys got some audio clips from the past, you know, and, you know, just kind of play them on that anniversary show. Because it's very, I don't know, I think honoring your history, especially now that you guys have some. such an archive, it's important. You know, I guess other people interested. It's a good marketing tool. But, yeah, I mean, but again, we're all busy, and it seems like it's like we're all just surviving the week, right?

Let's get through this show. And then by the time the next show, like, you get through that show. And before you know it, it's 10 years past. Just like that. Yeah, those were my questions. Yeah, those are my, but I love the show. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of you guys.

So I'm always, I have trouble remembering. What movies we've already reviewed. You're on the show. No, but I'm a huge fan of you guys I've been getting upset at Lance lady In my own head I haven't told them But man, upload those shows faster, man Because I need them, you know

I need my fix Of the horror returns when I'm not on here on here So yeah, but you know, it's awesome The you guys have been doing this for 10 years now It's a long time Most podcasts give up in like a year Although all those podcast spotlights that you guys do Guaranteed maybe like 1%

Has had 10 years, you know, maybe Maybe not. Who knows? But it's kudos to you guys. Because it's hard to do this weekly. It's hard. And also, you just never even miss a week. Somehow you just get it done. There's never like a best-up horror returns, like a lazy-ass-up.

You know? Oh, I know. There's always weeks where I'm like, oh, fuck, man, I got to do this show. Yeah. I can almost guarantee that a best-of episode filling in for a regular episode will probably never happen. Well, because then we're going to have to, like, edit together the best of. That's what I'm saying. But at least we get to take some time off and hang out with the guys, you know?

That's that's right. But I feel like if you guys ever need like the best of, like I think the tournament, the March Madness tournaments, because they're evergreen, right? They're not time sensitive. They're not time sensitive. So you could always throw those in there if you guys are in a bind for to cover for that week. But yeah, I know. I'm, again, big fan.

and just little questions that I had. It's just very unique that you guys always thank the same person. Anyways, but they deserve it. That's what's written on the page. And another reason I think there will always be an episode every week because I think we've accumulated what I think is a great roster of people

that will always be willing to fill in for somebody. Yeah. That's cool. Anytime one of us has to duck out or something, we always got some backups. That's cool. On the show, what's up, man?

Well, if there isn't a regular show, you got four of the shows that Brian and I do. So it doesn't also, there's always, there's always, there's always, there's always, there's always,

there's always, they got the wrestling show, which is good. I listen to it all the time. You know, they got the action returns. You know, they got,

we're not, we don't talk about saddle up anymore, but anyways, they got, they got the other, what's the other show you guys got? Remember I said by how I'm ready for I'm ready for Amityville horror to come back. Yeah, we're working on it.

We got street fiends and frightful reflections when Brian and I just pick some random horror movie and do commentary on it. Yeah, we got those. So we got action and we got the street fiends and wrestling. The Amityville Horror Show has been renamed to Amityville Returns. I will let that one out there. Nice. All right. And it'll never end because there's

some place of movies like that. Hey, I'll tell you guys speaking for myself, my two biggest influences, the reason I've decided to get into podcasting, binge cast, obviously, right? Brian, Brian, you know all about the binge cast.

And quite frankly, this dude here, Nez, man. I remember listening to Jesse's show back in the day. Nez would come on with the native side with Nez. And I'm like, this motherfucker knows his fucking horror movies and I'm like god damn I want to be like that when I grow up

so yeah much love to you this man seriously it's been it's been over 10 years for me now yeah that once I started doing all this well just my solo show and East Society will roll up on 10 in September

so and then however however long we've been doing this and to see it spawn off into all these other shows that Brian and I do. But even with the little many things we did and the

bonus episodes we've knocked out. I mean, Brian and I, we've done a lot. I don't even know how much. It's so many. It's, I don't know where we're at. I mean, what is it? Over a thousand now? Episodes for the horror return. Within the network, within the network? A lot of material. About to hit a thousand.

Yeah, it's got it because the horror returns by it. was like that five something so that's fucking bonkers yep but anyways go on with the continue with the on that note yeah on that note that was my feedback for the show appreciate it man that that was actually really good uh but yeah send us your feedback on the show itself you can go to the facebook page any of our socials or email us at the horror returns at gmail dot com we'll be sure to read it on the air agree with us bust our balls or even help us create a new in-joke that keep running. I want you to be a part of the show.

All right. And, uh, good. There's only 650 episodes in the network. We had to take, we had to take a lot down. Oh, yeah, that's right. They're being, they're being uploaded little by little.

Okay. I was in the same. Universe. I was over a thousand. Yeah. All right. All right. Eddie Fright says

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Nice. All right. Yeah, it sounds like we may have another guest. Speaking of which, you guys remember Dick Diamond? The Killer Surfboard movie? Director.

He reached out just a few weeks ago. Yeah, no, you guys remember that? It's about the Killer Surfboard. All right. The Killer Surfboard? I did not see the Killer Surfboard. Where are we supposed to get a screener? We are.

And I think we're going to have guests on a future show. I'm working on that right now. Speaking of screen is, someone said me that last one. You don't need a killer surfboard. There's just sharks. That sounds good, man. We'll check it out.

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We'll do it at a loss anyway. We always have, but, look it's up, man. Appreciate it. All right, on to featured attractions. It's Meta Week at the Horror Returns. We'll start with a movie that I did not know existed detention from 2011. As a copycat killer named after the movie villain Cinder Hella stocks the student body at Grizzly Lake High School,

a group of co-eds band together to survive while serving detention. director is Joseph Kahn, also known for bodied, and the music video for Taylor Swift's Bad Blood. Oh, that explains so much. I don't think I've seen the video. Writers are Joseph Kahn and Mark Palermo. Joseph Kahn has said the most expensive sequence in the movie is the circular tracking shot around various characters

and the library showing the passage of time by portraying different music eras. That's my first scene in the movie. I know. Was it? This is because the music licensing for these songs cost so much. Ah, that makes sense.

That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I love that scene. All right. Well, Pedro, you want to start us out with detention? Look, detention is a movie that was made for its time. It's from 2011. I got it right here.

See, I bought it. Many, many years ago, actually, because it's on DVD. I saw it in the movie theater when it came out. Really? I don't remember this movie coming out. It was like a small film. It was like, you know, like Silent Night and Deli Line got a theatrical last year. It's kind of like that.

It wasn't really hyped up. But I like this movie because if you're like a horror fan, not only a horror fan. Like if you're like a fan of those 80s, like teen comedies and stuff like that, like there's so many Easter eggs on here, you know? And it kind of rewards you for what, for being. being a fan of that genre. Now, the story's a little convoluted, but it knows what it is, though.

And I really like that. It never promotes itself as being this serious movie. It's a satire, and it's a satire of older movies. And so I like a lot of the tropes that they use right here. They got the stereotypical tropes of, like, high school life, you know, the jock, the nerd, all that stuff. And I think what's going to make or break this movie for people is the comedy. If the comedy doesn't hit for you, then it's going to get you. get annoying really, really fast. If it does it for you, then you know, you're going to,

you're going to enjoy the movie. The jokes did hit for me back in 2011, which is the different person than I am now. I'm not that person anymore. So I rewatched it right before we came on here. I had some time, so I threw it on really quick. It's not, it's not the movie that I, that I remembered from back then, but I still enjoyed it. You know, like I said, I really enjoyed that scene where they're playing the different music. When they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they get that one guy, he's been in detentions in 1998, and he just, they just show him, like, oh, who are you? 19 years.

Yeah, and that's kind of like the story takes over. It hits, like, the third act at that point, because he kind of has a lot of exposition. But, and then they start playing all those different songs. That's a pretty cool scene. And then, and then, you know, it has, like, a lot of the actors before they blew up, right? It has Josh Hutchinson before, um, uh, the, the movie that got him big. What was it called? Hunger Games.

Hunger Games. Right before, like on the Cuts. Future Man. I'm not. That's ready. Well, that's later. He's on the down swing now, I think. So that's later in his career.

It has like Dane Cook hadn't blown up yet either, right? Like, he was on the cuss as well. Like, he's kind of like... I think he was the draw. Kind of like the dude who showed up, you know, so that they would have a name in it. Yeah, I think that's a big cameo. What happened?

He was... Where the fuck is he? Haven't seen him. Trying to get work. Yeah, I think he's one. I don't know. I think he's one of those guys that leans a certain way politically. And I think they just kind of, you know how that's going for a lot of people right now.

Did he get canceled? Really? I didn't even know Dane Cook had politics. I didn't either. Yes. I think. I think. I don't know.

But he did disappear. And then his face got on like Jim Carrey weird. I know he went broke. Did he? Because he let his... What I understand... Yeah, he was stealing jokes. And then I guess...

Oh, that's right. That was another thing. He let his brother handle his finances. Oh, shit. That's never a good thing. Yeah, I probably wouldn't smart. At least it didn't go full Selena. Yeah, but no, but anyways, so...

So, yeah, no, for a movie, that's for its time. I watched... I've seen it a couple times. I enjoyed it. It wasn't bad. It has a lot of inside jokes. I think the story's pretty clever. Again, if the jokes don't hit,

then this movie's going to suck for you. It all falls on the jokes, on the comedy. And the acting was pretty good. So I would give this, I'll say my rating later, but I enjoyed it. All right. Nez, what do you think?

You seen this one? I didn't see it, so go ahead. No. the time travel stuff because it got a little too wacky for me. But I like the mix of the early 2000s and the 90s stuff. A lot of the 90s stuff was where I was laughing, especially the one girl. We find that later is the mom in the daughter's body.

But I like how she only talked in 90s terms. She's got the CNC music factory thing going. They did like a little freaky Friday thing right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there you go, Freaky Friday. She's like nailing, she's like nailing the routines at the talent show. And everybody's like, yeah, she really did her research.

Yeah. But, yeah, but it really drops off for me when it gets into the time travel stuff because it just kind of gets all jumbled up. And I kind of don't know what's really happening and what's really going on. My favorite scene is the detention scene with all the different. time periods of music. I think that was done really well. But yeah,

nothing really much more to say what Pedro said. It's a jumbled mess, though, especially towards the end. It gets really, like, jumbled up. Yeah. It's hard to understand why things are happening the way that they're happening. But

also does it really matter? I mean... Yeah, like the movie, the movie presents itself as very low stakes. It's obvious that it's not going to take itself seriously very early on. As a matter of fact, the first scene, you know that it's going to be a very silly comedy. And so there's no stakes. So towards the end, when it gets jumbled up with the time travel stuff, you kind of tune out because there's no stake.

So it's like, this is just one big cartoon. And once that happens, I could see why a lot of people would have a problem with it. There you go. That was a good description. Lance, what do you think? To me, it was jumbled up from Jump Street. man, I don't know. This didn't click with me at all.

To me, the comedy all fell flat. I didn't laugh. I don't think I laughed at a single joke. That brilliant scene, you guys are talking about, that mastermind, David Fincher, William Friedkin's scene there that were there going through the different time periods and you got the one kid that's there the whole time.

I can't figure out why. Was he a ghost? Or why was he there the whole time? Did you watch the movie? I don't know. I don't know. I can't even remember why he got detention for 19 years, but that's what happened. All right.

Well, I didn't care for the villain. I thought the mask was ridiculous. I thought that all the little meta-in jokes, none of them really hit for me. The Wayans brothers, these dudes ain't, you know. I'll put it that way. Nothing hit for me on this, man. This is not a parody movie. but it felt like it

felt like it was trying to be one bride for some reason it was making fun of all the movies like with all the movie posters and the stab one and stab two and man the fly

truthfully a lot of this I don't even remember that one and stab two you mean a scream so I'm saying it was trying to be like that to me I don't know the look the CGI fire was some of the worst CGI fire

I've ever seen. The time travel stuff is ridiculous. More so than the next movie we're going to talk about? I don't know about that. Are we in script 7 already? Hold on. We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. The little Iron Man suit thing where the digital

I was on the floor busting up during that scene. I'm glad you were, man. I'm glad somebody got something out of this movie because I'll never watch this one again. Enough set for me. I'm sorry. Detention.

You've probably seen it, Nass. Yeah, it came on like 16, a long time ago, 2011. Hmm. Yeah. You know, I didn't hate it. Philip Duggett. Of course. Of course Philip Dugget.

But I like, I like the comedy in it. Like when she starts rattling off in the 90s terms, like it was silly and stupid, but it was funny. You're like when they when they cook the cute, see this is because this is kind of like my generation. I was in high school in the in the in the 90s. Right. And at least where I grew up, like

all these girls were just pregnant. They were just pregnant. It was in the 90s. High school girls were pregnant. Okay. That's just the best thing happened. And then and then Cook accuses the girl about being pregnant. He gives it like a little lecture of like being pregnant. And then

she's like, I'm not pregnant. And then he's like, get off the carbs. That made me laugh. That was funny to me. Look at Lance. We can, man, we're laying an egg with Lance tonight. That's what I'm seeing. And I kind of, I kind of like Dane Cook. He had that little time period where he was really hot. And I thought he was waiting is one of the, one of my favorite movies. Oh, I like that movie. Yeah. That wasn't him? That was, um, Deadpool. No, that was Ryan Gosling vehicle, but Dancook was in it.

Dan Cook was in the back. Yeah, he was one. Yeah. Is he the guy who kept putting the pubic hairs in the food? Yeah, that was it. Okay. Almost had to change to the 10 second rule. I just remember Andy Milanakis.

He had like the band down with the nose ring. Yeah. Reis Guzman was in it. Yeah, he had a good cast. that one funny lady that was in Meet the Parents Meet the Fawkers or whatever that one's called That's right

Robert the Nere's wife No It was Dustin Hoffman and Babes's Maid or cook or something Oh yeah yeah yeah okay The one that had the at the end when she

In waiting when she pulled up her skirt and had all the lint and all that downstairs in her bush whatever her name is. See, that's a comedy that Lance likes right there. Wait. I'd rather, yeah, I'd rather watch Waiting. I can tell you that. I'm watching the trailer for this. I did see this. I knew you. I figured you had, Dan. It's a real forgettable, man. It is a silly and stupid movie. It's real forgettable. But it's kind of fun.

I don't remember it, but I'm watching this trailer. I did see this. Somebody might have brought us to work and we just had it on. Yeah, a very young Josh Hudson, and I'm like, right, man, he can pull this off, dude. Hopefully he keeps going. Like, I, because I like, and I liked him in that, what was that comedy series that he was in?

Future Man. Yeah, Future Man. I think he's funny and Future Man. That was good. Yeah. So, yeah, this was the one where I sent you guys the gift. And I'm like, you know what? Not bad.

Oh, okay. I thought you meant the screen movie. Yeah. All right. No, no, no. No. Yeah, I'll watch this one all day rather than the screen movies, to be honest with you. I've never been a huge screen fan with them with, though.

Dan Cook's best movie is Employee of the Month. That movie's hell. Yeah. employee the month. That was a good one. Is that Jessica, is Jessica Alba in that one? No, Jessica Simpson. Simpson. From Napoleon.

From Napoleon. But he's in one with Jessica Alba at some point, I think. Yeah, he is. That was the one where he was just banging chip. Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah, he was a big deal. He was a big deal there for a while.

Then he just fell off. Started stealing jokes. and that's good. I got him. That'll do it. Yeah, he just like disappeared. Carlos, he's making a comeback. He's starting to do more shows. I see. Is he? Because, see, and I know that, I know that's why Mencia fell off because he was stealing jokes.

I didn't, I don't think I heard that from Dan Cook. Well, he's finally, double whammy. He's finally admitted and accepted instead of making excuses about it. Right. Who? Mancia? Yeah. He owned it. Oh, okay.

That'll work. I mean, he's a funny guy. Anyway, all right. Scores on detention. Pedro. I'm gonna go six on ten. Six.

Brian. Six and a half. Right. Lance? I can't go one. I was going to go one. But I can't because I don't remember enough of the movie to fairly do that. but it's not that bad.

It's a two. Yeah, you're right. It's a two. It's not horrible. Okay. What? I don't remember it at all, so, but I'm going to go six. I think it was funny.

I had a good time with this one. Okay. I don't think I hated it. I would have remembered that. I don't remember. Yeah, it is definitely forgettable. I'll give it that. All right.

On to the brand new screen seven. We've got opinions on this movie. When a new ghost face killer emerges in the town where Sidney Prescott has built a new life. Her darkest fears are realized as her daughter becomes the next target. Director is Kevin Williamson, also known for Teaching Mrs. Tingle. The only movie he's done, by the way. as far as the kind of job he was going to do. Right.

Writers are Kevin Williamson with Guy Busek and James Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt? What? Yeah, he's a right. He's a big shot writer. And the other guy is part of the radio Sivan's guy, so some of that carried over.

Ah, that makes sense. Okay. Kevin Williamson convinced Nev Campbell to consider returning and Nev Cannell convinced Kevin Williamson to direct it. No, no, pulling back the bank truck by spyglass convinced both of them, dude. That's a bullshit story.

Yeah, because if you notice, if you notice there was a conflict, conflict with pay with her now returning to the last one. But if you see the budget is almost twice the amount of the last one. Yeah, and they try to get cute with the throwaway line, you know, trying to talk about that, how she sat out, sat out part six. Yeah, I unfortunately caught that line too, Pedro. After like the fifth time,

I was like, oh, okay, we get it. All right. Nez, you've been patiently waiting. You want to start us out? It was all right. I mean, I didn't even like to. The last one that I...

Substantial to say, man. The last one that that I loved was the one the last one David Arquette was in spoiler alert but the one he was in that was the last one that I enjoyed the one in New York it was okay I was sucked

the one New York this one yeah this one good to see Neff Campbell Campbell come back I love her but was it but it was nothing new it's just the same story over and over again

Nev someone's gonna come somebody knew is coming and trying to kill you for however many years. When did the first one come out? Ninety-S ninety-six. Ninety-six. Ninety-six. West Craven. Rest in peace.

Yeah, rest in peace. I was like, damn, man, I mean, how many more do we need? But, of course, we're going to keep seeing them. When is she going to be the killer? That's got to be the last chapter. Scream the final chapter. She's the killer. I mean, she has to be.

You just, you just start. How many people have tried to... The listeners, Pedro? It's... How many different people are trying to kill her? Yeah, I know. It's been over 10 people that have been trying to kill of it, man. There's always multiple killers.

Oh, and that's one of the problems with this movie, though, is because of what you're saying. Like, she's not even really tripping on that. Like, she answers the call, and this is not spoilers. We're going to spoil. This is not spoilers. That was in the trailer, Petra. The first call, she answers it, and then it's like,

yeah. Okay, cool. Like, like, like, like, like, like, this very threatening message and she's like, okay, whatever. Like, I've been through this before. Like, even the character is tired of this. Even she's exhausted.

Yeah. And who answers the phone if you don't know the number? I never, I don't answer the phone anyway, but I'm just like, really? That's also one of my rules. If it's important, they're going to leave me a message.

I don't answer no fucking unknown call. Yeah, agreed. No, but you know what's even weird? That wasn't a non-known call. they didn't say Woodboro like the it said

yeah the town and it's like you're still gonna fucking pick up you're gonna pick up you know but anyways

that's yeah it just wasn't it was okay I mean the kills I enjoyed there was one that was pretty gruesome right

but it was I agree the exact same thing as the last 10 movies or however men and we've had right right so I'm just like

other than I'm just like I'm surprised they continually make this ghost face costume I mean that should be legal to buy one of those

like why isn't it in this universe no kidding I'm like that should be a dead giveaway Pedro like they should if you buy one of these

you should be watched they should be following you around right and all and this is just a nitpick the actual cloak that ghost face wears it looks all sparkly

at times I've never I know, but I've never seen them in the store like that. I've just seen just straight black. Well, that's why. That's one's a real. It's, yeah.

It's like if you're buying 12 pallets of fertilizer, you know, you might be on a watch list, right? In this universe, if you buy a ghost face mask, you should be on the watch list. And I want to know, do they just roll in the spirit and buy these,

or do they make these masks and the cloaks for the movie they should have the scary movie mask in the next screen movie like they should have like the scary movie the smiley one and the next one fuck it you think they're gonna make that no I don't think they could do that but the thing is I think that we have a next one coming

next year because it made a bazillion dollars already this did this would be yeah it made $90 worldwide I was gonna say Phil you were wrong again last week. Nobody was going to give a shit about this movie. Yeah. And why was this in IMAX? I didn't, I'm glad I didn't pay. I would have been Superman if I paid the IMAX price.

I was like that there was no need for this movie to be in IMAX. Well, something had to be on IMAX. You can't just have them off. So I could say, fuck it. This week, we're going to throw Screen 7 in it. Oh, well, I was thinking that when weapons came out too. I was like, why is this an IMAX? But that ending was glorious. it was in iMacs on that big screen but i mean but overall i mean it was the exact same movie as as the past few and nev she just ages like fine wine she didn't get all she does yeah i'm glad like like nev campbell's accepting the reality of life and she's Asian gracefully you can't say

the same thing about corny cox though like i thought she had i thought she had i thought she had i thought she had a few jim carry a couple of scenes there no i was like is that jim carrie or that corny cox Yeah, we're talking about shit about Jim Carrey's face, and it's nothing compared to Courtney Cox. That looks like a sex doll of Courtney Cox. I mean, I love her. I mean, nothing against anyone that does that to yourself. I mean, do what you want. Definitely something against.

Stop fucking with your face, ladies. I don't care if you're old. You don't just, you look like a fucking alien, quit it. It's huge in South Korea. The right way. That was beautiful. I saw her at Texas primary one year, too. Yeah.

She's not, she's not that tall. So I thought, I was like, God damn, and she's beautiful. Even that in person. I was just walking by her, but, but yeah, this movie, uh, I paid full price too.

It should have been mad name, but, uh, yeah, how much is full price? $22. Now is how much is full price now? I'm a,

I'm an A-lister, so I don't pay full price, but how much is, the price is probably higher because you're down in the L.A. Yeah, it's $22. bucks over here. $22? $2.

Just regular movie? For a regular movie. To see this. No, no. It's like half that. Maybe 12. 11? If that.

Okay. That's our madness. It was $22. Oh, my God. That's crazy. It was like that when I went to New York. It was $24 when I saw gravity. I don't know. But. . . . . . . . . . . . it was okay. It was nothing to write home about. Fennas. What did you think of the reveal? the worst reveal of all time. What did you think about that? Without saying it yet, because we're not in spoilers, but what did you do the other reveal? I didn't, well,

we all know in this film, there's multiple killers. It's never just one person. Typically, yeah. One that came walking on the screen, I was like, all right, I know who that is. Right.

So really? Okay. Yeah. It was the other one. I was like, oh, okay. One popped on the screen. I was like, huh, really? But, uh, yeah,

Lance, who, was it just you and I who met that person? Or was filled, was still there. Yeah, we met that person at Texas Frightmare. Yeah. That person was really cool. That person gave us a sound bite. Yeah, really cool. But I mean, I was like, oh, really?

Um, but I was just like, uh, the reveal. Mm-hmm. I don't know. I mean, you, when you watch these movies, you're just, You're watching everybody and you're trying to figure out who it is. Then you got to go into the why. But I don't know. This one didn't seem like they really thought about it.

But they didn't. And then there's a very, this movie is just, just lazy. It's lazy. There's this weird scene where there's a guy in a truck that is supposed to be a red herring, but why is he doing that in the truck? Like what the fuck's his problem?

And it makes no sense. And then, you know, like Sydney runs like a marathon trying to get from where she's at to her house. And there's like, no, the town's dead, completely dead. Oh, shit. No, that's not a spoiler, right? I didn't bust the lines.

Not really. And so it's ridiculous. Huh? They did it and all the other ones with a curfew. But I mean, that, that, I was kind of like, I've been places where there is curfews. And there's still a hell of people running around. Of course there are, man.

Especially calm. right? I mean, during pandemic, during the lockdown, when everyone was supposed to stay in the house, everybody was still outside, but... We were. No, there's one of them. I thought I was watching a scary movie for a while.

That's how much of a parody this came up. There's a scene, there's a scene, right? There's a scene in this movie. Again, no spoilers. Just ridiculous. Where the cops, they checked the house, and they don't even, it's literally, it takes them two seconds.

Oh, it's all clear. and it's like later on there's the consequences for them not doing it right but what i'm like is that bad writing like they literally go in a you like they bust a little you turn around the rooms they don't check that either like it's clear but it's one shot like it's not even like there's no there's no time lapse of them all checking this like it's ridiculous and it's i don't know that shit was pissing me off yeah what's what's happened to what's happened to kevin wilkinson guys i mean he used to what happened to i mean he was never he as a writer but not as original story no writer. I'm talking about it as a writer.

Because original, that TV show, the following was really good. The one with Kevin Bacon, you guys remember that one? With the cult? Yeah, oh, shit. I love that show, man. I couldn't wait for every episode. And the original scream was very clever, you know?

And then, yeah, I mean, this wasn't, I mean, people know, because they, the trailer, they brought the twins back and they're kind of wasted in this movie. Oh, God. From, uh, and yeah, I was, I like them when they first came on the scene now

I did too I love that movie two movies ago that one that one was fun we're giving a lot of way aren't we no no no no no because they're on the trailer they're in the trailer yeah they're on the trailer um there's other

cameos that we're not going to talk about but these the twins are in the trailer um yeah so I don't know we should talk about spoilers now because I think that's when we're really going to get excited all right Phil Brian what did you guys think yeah Brian

Do you want to start us out I thought the kills were decent even though Neff Campbell had came out and said they weren't as gory I thought some of them were pretty fucking gory in there Right I actually do like the twins But I felt like they were misused in this movie

Agreed It was good to see It was good to see Neff Campbell back But with all that being said this is the worst fucking written movie since Scream 3 and the fucking reveal when that happened

I was like, who are you? Yeah. And that was for both of them. Yeah. I had to sit there and think like, were you already in the movie? Oh yeah, you were. You were in that useless, pointless scene half an hour ago. I was like the

Like, I know they always have to do this person you least expect thing, but it's like, dude. Well, one of them has nothing to do with anything. That doesn't count if they're only in one scene. You got at least have motive, right? You got to have, I feel like the other ones, the one from six with the family, at least they connected it back to, what's his name? The guy from the boys. Remember, he was the villain in the previous one. So that was his dad, right?

So they connected it. Yeah. It was still, no, don't get me wrong, Lance, that was also another horrible review. But it's not as bad

as this one where it was like they were reaching for this one. It was horrible. It was horrible. One of them didn't, like he had no motive. It's weird. Yeah.

That's what I was like it didn't make any sense. It was more of just like pressured. I think the opening would have been solid if they had not put it in the fucking trailer, the entire opening. Yeah.

I don't like that actor. He's too, he like oversells everything. Who were those people? That's true. They usually have big name people. Who were they? Were they influences or TikTok stars or?

No, that guy, the actor, the dude, he's been in a ton of things. Really? But he's always the same. He's never been the lead though.

He's kind of like the side guy. Yeah, he's like one of the side dudes, but he's been in a ton of things. Yeah, he's been in some stuff. I've seen. him before.

And Z. Well, and then you should take your word for it. And then the girl has been in stuff too. The girl has also been in some stuff. Yeah, she's,

she's the daughter and land man. And she was in like, 19th, or something. And then one of the, and then one of the other girls in the movie

is from one of the other Sheridan series. Yeah. Yeah. Landman, hell of good. Well, they should have hired Taylor Sheridan

write this fucking movie. That's what I got to say. You're going to put half his cast in the movie. Might as well, hire him to write it. and one more thing real quick one of the cameos showed me that maybe he should have been

ghost face they should have worked it out some fucking way because he at least made it fucking fun for me huh yeah I wonder who you're thinking of that's true I like that too I was like okay I mean with the world we live in today

I was kind of like well maybe but then my fingers were crossed but then it went a different way. Oh, but my biggest gripe, McKenna Grace. Okay. I love her.

I love her and everything she's done, but really? Oh, man. This might be a little spoiler. She should at least made it to the end. I was like, oh, yeah.

I should have to put her in the opening scene. Although, you know, this, this young woman, McKinna Grace, it's weird for me well we know what you said last time so move on yeah

all right yeah I just kind I don't know I wasn't I was kind of waiting for this movie to be over really not feeling it no I'm not a huge screen fan to begin with but uh

and I mean this had a lot of people in it but that's kind of all that they did was just like, hey, look at this guy. You remember him? Yeah. You know, that's it. That was the whole movie.

Sure. Lance. Jimmy Tacharo. That was the guy in the beginning. He's been in. Jimmy Tacharo. Okay. What's he been in?

He's the same. Hell of things, but he's been the same character. Every single one. Anything I've ever seen. Growing up two, 21 Jump Street. Boo, Medea Halloween. Oh, I know I've seen that one, Brian. Super Troopers 2.

He was in Charmed. He was in Modern Family, King of Staten Island. What was he? Security Guard number two or what? Lance, did you ever watch American Vandal on Netflix about that documentary about them trying to find out who's drawing the dicks on the schoolyards and stuff? That's right.

He was, he was in that. He was the vandal? I think he was just in it. I don't remember. He might have been the vandal. I don't think about it. The dick drawer. The dick band.

But he's one of those dudes that's like in everything. He's never the main person. He's just in it. But he acts the same and everything. Understood. Person and a bar number six. I got you. Yeah.

It's like they told you Jack in that documentary, the wrestler. You're not going to be Den Zahar. You're going to be Denzal's buddy. that's what this guy is. He's Den Sal's buddy. He's not Dan Sal, he's Den Sal's buddy. All right.

Let's get through scores so we can get the spoilers. I haven't... I haven't spoken. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were still... Oh. I got to go.

No, it's real simple. I mean, this movie was an abomination in every sense of the word. This is far and away the worst scream movie ever. Okay, so let's take that opening scene. Like I said, you should have two superstars in there, right?

You should have two people you recognize. There was no Drew Barmore in there. That's for sure. It's ridiculous. And then silly concept, you know, they turn it into an Airbnb or whatever, you know. There's, yeah, and there, I don't see any motivation

whatsoever of who the, of who the killers were. That makes sense to me. You've got one character that shows up and he's gaslighting everybody that, oh yeah, that was John Doe. blah blah blah I'm not saying too much yet but it's just like all the acting they just all looked exhausted

to me like nobody was having fun none of the okay yeah granted one of the kills was fun but the whole situation around that kill with the way that stage is set up for a fucking high school drama stage really you got all these fucking special effects and stuff

for a high school play what you know and then and then you've got you've got the fact that you got, oh man, that, I can't say anymore because we get into the AI thing. And then that's what really thing. Everybody knows about that. No, the A-I thing they know.

None of us really liked it. But not about how they use the AI. I think that's still spoiler territory. And what Pedro was talking about about the guy, what was the motivation of the guy in the car having that on the computer? And we could just get into schools. Yeah, that was awfully convenient. He said he was

Everybody. He was practicing. Because they're practicing being fucking weird. They brought it up. They're going to pick my girlfriend up. Maybe I should fucking close this shit out. Dumbass. But it was two on the nose.

The twins were totally on the nose, though. But here's the thing. It's what they do in this, in these movies. They try to, they give you the red herring. But I like that. Let's make it. Yeah, it wasn't even remotely clever, though, Nass. It was literally

It might not That's how lazy They found it It was That's how lazy the writing was And then he had it open Like exactly when he was practicing Like that what the fuck

But this is how you know that an old last man wrote this script Kevin Williamson He's always got to be 50 or 60 at this point Right He So this guy This guy has a degree in computer science Okay

The boyfriend is not a spoiler fuck it And that's supposed to make up a next one for an AI. Okay. Yeah, let's go into spoilers. Well, there's scores. I'll give it. It was all right. I mean, the kills were cool. The movie was just lame. That's going to buy it when it comes out on 4K. You already say he's going to buy it.

I will. I have all the other ones. I have to. I'm the completest. I'll give it a four. It is. It was all right. Okay. Four on 10. Classic score rate is not hella good. Pedro. No.

I'm going to go five on 10. What? And the only reason I'm going to give it a five. I'm going to tell you guys what I'm going to give out a fight for two reasons. I found Ned Campbell adorable and also the opening scene was awesome. Like the, which had we, well, I'm not going to say that. That's true. The opening scene was awesome.

I kind of like the opening scene. Yeah. I like all the opening scenes and all of them. You know what? You know what? The scene that I, well, I like the opening scene. I thought I thought Kevin Willenson built attention really well with that, with that animatronic, uh, ghost face.

Yeah. You know. And I'm, in my, in my head, I'm like. this motherfucker's going to have a scene where he just runs out and it's like a real person all of a sudden. It didn't happen. But I was waiting for that. And then they have a clever scene where they're in another. I don't know if you guys remember this scene.

Where they're in another room. Pedro. They're in another room. Geez, dude. You're so generous, man. And they have the animatronic ghost face. How much did they pay you to give this review? I just thought I was paying everybody else back in the money truck up.

I was on the edge of my seat. So for so for the first scene. And for Neff Campbell, I'm going to give it a five on ten. God. All right. Brian? 4.5. The kills surprised me because they were trying to sell this movie as not as gory as the original one.

And a couple of the kills surprised me. Right. I did like seeing Neff Campbell back. And some of the cameos kind of hit that nostalgia bug for me or itch. I get it Okay Okay Do you get it

No I really don't What do you give it Because the way they did it Really It was so cheap Really It was so cheap

I gotta go Huh I got a jet I gotta go All that So I'll talk you guys later All right Ryan I'll hit you up later tonight

Lance What are you at With this score This is the definition Of a one This is This is trash, man. Pure garbage.

Nothing clever about it. We'll get into more later. You don't even have people in the theater entertaining? Huh? Lance, you do know that you gave, I know what you did last summer, remake a two, right? Okay, this is worse. You gave that one a two. Yeah, this is worse.

Because you didn't have the entertainment around. To me, this is worse. I kept, there was so much wait, hurry up and wait, boring, boring, boring, hurry up and wait, standing around in a bar, hurry up and wait, hurry up and wait, boring, boring, boring, and then a good kill. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. What was better about I know what you did last summer? Well, he had the entertainment in the theater.

Outside of that. That's it. But you know what? To be fair to Lance, he's done on record saying that that movie got a tooth because of the entertainment around him, not because of the movie. And that's part of the experience. So I guess it matters, you know, it's valid. It was a very quiet audience this time, Brian, when I was. in the same exact theater,

but a much quieter audience. I heard a few giggles, maybe, I don't know. I think four is a pretty fair score for this one. I don't know. I kind of don't ever want to see it again, so.

I don't think anyone's at it. Unless a patron request it or something. All right, spoilers. This is a mother. fucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. The fucking killers, man. Where did that come from? Who are they? The neighbor and the guy from the fucking... I mean, insane asylum or whatever? The insane as well.

The guy that likes strawberry pop tarts for Can't Harley Wade. that's right that's right right and he's bald and creepy in this one but so so the so the girl

the girl the girl from what did call it the vampire show help me out Lance vampire diaries or no no no the whatever the one with Anna Pacquine

True blood oh I forgot she was in that yeah anyways she so let me get this straight. She was in an abusive relationship. And in a throwaway line, she said she killed her husband, which, where's that movie? And then everything is better. And then she's

like, but then she was mad because she missed out on the New York massacre. Essentially, it's an inside joke that because Neff Campbell didn't do part six. Yes, inside jokes. She got pissed off. Not very well. And then that's on a killing spree, you know? Right. And then also the fact that the, like, the opening scene had

nothing to do with the rest of the movie. It was, it was a big con. Like, like, there's nothing, you know, they literally just went there to burn down. Yeah, that is true. They went there to burn down the house just because it was meta and it was a movie. Like, we're watching a movie, so they got to do something cool. Okay. And then also, let's talk about the trucks. Now we could talk more openly about the truck scene because it was ridiculous.

Oh, my God. Like, yeah. This guy who's supposed to be a red herring, he has a computer out, right? Remember, he's an AI expert because he knows about computer science, even though there's two different traits. so so so he so he literally has on the screen practice he's practicing uh being stew right he's practicing uh stu mucker and stuff fucking boat so lazy like so terrible that she catches that was bad and she knocks them out she knocks him out with his own laptop by the way right um and and it's just ridiculous now another another ridiculous scene is when so

So another red herring, there's a bunch of them, is that that guy that saw mysterious, the son of the, of the killer, right? Her son. Oh, the horror fan? Ethan M.B. It looks like he needed to take a nap. Yeah, exactly. He looks like somebody.

I can't put my finger on it. He looks like that one guy from that Steve Buscemi show. He was on the second season. What's his name? Anyways, he doesn't do much anymore, but he looks like that guy. Anyways. Who has the strength? Remember how he dies?

Neither of the two killers could do that. And somehow when you throw on this fucking suit, you also gain superhuman strength of it, because the way that kid gets killed, once they reveal the killers, I'm like, none of these two people could do that. Ethan Embry's too small to do that. He picks him up by the neck and just throws him in that.

That was a cool kill, by the way. I'll give him credit for that. Because there's a beer coming out of his mouth. That was bullshit. Once you found out, like, did his mom pick him up like that and just put them in the thing or like like I don't get it. I don't know. So much so much bullshit in this movie.

Then we then we had like like I said, Neff Campbell's running for like half the movie trying to catch up to her daughter. And then she just gives up and she starts communicating on the phone. We haven't talked about his car anywhere, right? Not even cops. Oh, we haven't talked about Joe McHale and how miscast he was. Oh, that was.

What happened to McDreamy? Patrick Dempsey. I know that was a big cop-out but a lot of fans thought he was going to be the the mark he was talking about but there was another mark and Joe McKill was completely miscast

and he evidently he has superpowers too because he got stabbed about 45 times and he's still alive at the end of the movie so did the fucking twins and they're walking around without any medical care and there's a fucking ambulance there what and they're just really they established

in the other movies that they're basically Dewey that's right and they get stabbed and they keep surviving they've already established that they haven't established that they're kin to do but but uh oh no they're kin to Randy

I think I think they're kin to Randy I think they're clean shape but anyway Joel McHale is weird looking that's his uncle or their uncle just got to say it yeah he needs to stick to comedy Joe McHale's not a good like yeah like straight act crazy he needs to stick to comedy

yeah that that that animal control series that he has is really funny he's a great He's a great comedian. You know? I mean, he was awesome in the junior college TV show. I forget what it was called.

Guessing what I'm talking about? The one where he had to go back to the junior college to get his degree. Community? Yeah, community. He was really good in that one. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that was, I mean, that's kind of what got him big in a lot of ways. So my least, I'm sorry, go ahead.

Go ahead. Go ahead. No, just real quick, just because touching on what Brian was saying about the nostalgia, Brian, that was my least favorite part of the movie. When she's running through a house and they've somehow got it programmed, where the TV turns on in each room she's running through, and it's like, the face is horrible. I wasn't talking about that.

I was talking about a student. The way he was hamming up his performance. Yeah, that was. Sto, still. He would have made it some way of making him ghost face and explaining it, like, correctly. It would have been fun. Yeah. Yeah, they could have done it.

That's kind of a lot of. I thought. Like the whole time, I was like, there's no way he's going to be the killer because they're making such a big deal about it. There's no way he's still alive. Yeah, they wanted to fuck. But had they brought him back, it would have worked. Maybe.

But then at the end, it's like a throwaway line. Well, of course, we're not still. He's dead. Like, like they. So they're pretty much fucking with the fan base the entire time this is going on. Like, is it really like. But what was weird to me is like, I get, I get that, you know, Matthew Liller has to look older because they're trying to make people think that he's still alive.

So he would age, right? Even though he's all jacked up from the face, he's an older Matthew Litter. But the other ones, why were they AI like older? They had no reason to, you know, that they just got lazy and they didn't want to de-age them, you know? The killer from Part 3 and then the girlfriend, the lady from Roseanne, the lady from part 2, they just looked like how they would look today. But it makes no sense because why would you AI AI them to look how they look today, you know, because they didn't have to.

Stupid. It's just lazy. Lazy doesn't look like that either, right? Like if you see an AI video, there's a distinct look to it. No, but remember, Lance, this is, you know, the Ethan Embry worked for Google. That's how he became good at AI. Oh, you just, you know what? I'm going to give this a nine and a half now for that.

You're right. Even though somehow in another, he was making six figures at Google. And then one day he just walked up, he's like, no, I'm just going to be an orderly at a hospital. Fuck, I'm going to take a pay cut. And just be, I have all this knowledge in my head and I'm going to go be an orderly at the hospital. No explanation for anything in this movie, right? AI, AI has some slockey ones that you can really tell, but they have some that are pretty convincing, too, and that's the scary part. Not to me.

But maybe I'm seeing some that I think are real that are then. Who knows? It's happened very fast and we're not far away from not being able to tell what's real. All right. Well, I'm sure they're going to have to start making long about that. You guys ready to wrap it up? I got to turn the bed. We're not, but if you're ready to wrap it up, we're ready to wrap it up. Somebody's hit the wrap it up button.

Yeah. No, what else do you guys want to talk about? The walking off music. There's not, I mean, it's just a horrible movie, y'all. I guess what I want to say, because you always have the defenders, well, it made $90 million. But if you have a brain, everybody knows that success doesn't correlate to quality. You know, it's about marketing.

Very true. with anything in life, you know, if you market something, because it's obvious that the screen franchise has a lot of equity with the fan base, as it should. It was six movies deep at this point. So, of course, people are going to go see it in the first week. You know, we have a hunger for that. But that doesn't mean it's a good movie.

So don't be saying, oh, it made 90. No, it's like, you know, it doesn't mean it's a good movie because I guarantee you're going to have a big drop off the following week once people understand. Because it's got in horrible reviews. Like, nobody really likes it. Well, thank God for that. Yeah. But with all that money, there's already one in the works for next year.

So we'll see. Hopefully they change it up a little bit, you know? So that's it. That's what I got to say. All right, cool. Keep driving to the wheels fall off. Any last words, Brian, on this one? If they're going to make screen, hey, get a real director.

Yeah. Like radio silence. Yes. Yeah, but don't let him write because he was one of the writers. No, I will say one thing that was bullshit. we leave. It was an insult to the fans of the franchise. Not one mention of the Melissa Barrera, the Carpenter Sisters. Not one mention of them in the entire movie. Oh, yeah. Wouldn't have been awesome if the reveal of Ghostface was Melissa Barrera and Jenna Ortega,

that they swirred this whole time that they were fired. That would have been cool. Maybe they'll bring it full circle in the next movie. Maybe the next movie we'll make up for this one. They'll listen to the critics. That's, yeah, hopefully, because they need to fix a lot of shit. But anyways, that's, yeah, that's my, we'll see. All right, and all right. So, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We love to hear your feedback and ideas.

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