The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #516: Faces of Death (1978) & Faces of Death (2026)

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

Pedro and Nez join us to look at the many faces of death. Cool of the week includes Thrash, Duel, Project Hail Mary, and 28 Years Later: The Bone Temple. Trailers are Ice Cream Man, Passenger, and Insidious: Out of the Further. The podcast spotlight shines on Horror Flicks and Guitar Picks. And we get feedback from Pat Caruso, Patrick Lear, Destiny Soria, Matt Wood, Michael Arnaz, and Annie Martin. Thanks for listening!  

Greetings, victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware, this podcast contains major plot spoilers, and the foulest, of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best and the worst in horror. Welcome back, one and all, to the horror returns.

I'm Lance, and with me as always is my co-host, Brian. And with us as so frequently is our co-host Pedro. Phillips got something going on tonight, so he's not here. Nez is going to pop. in later. But I think we got a quorum here, guys. I think we're ready to go.

How are you guys doing this week? Doing okay. Doing good. Yeah? Yeah? Any cool of the week we can talk about? I finally got hooked up and saw the Zazi Beats movie so we can finally talk about it,

Brian. Talk about it. All right. You seen that one, Pedro? Of course I have. I'm an AMC Lister. You know I don't let those kind of want to go apart. All right.

I need every little, I have to find reasons to go to the movie theater because I'm paying a monthly fee. So you know these kind of movies are definitely on the watch list. You go to rom-coms, huh? Just to go? No, I don't want to go that much. I'll take the loss before I spend, I give rom-coms any kind of, I mean, they're not all bad, though. There's a, you'll catch a couple of good ones. Oh, yeah, for sure.

All right, well, how do you want to do this? because Brian, where we last left off, you and Philip had done your reviews, but not spoilers. So do you don't want to start with spoilers, or do you want me and Pedro to give our scores, or how do you want to do this, Brian? Talk about the movie. I mean, includes spoilers.

It's already been a couple weeks, so. Okay. All right, cool. So this will just be a spoilery talk about they will kill you then. MacNez is on here too, I think, right? Yep, put me in, coach. All right, you saw they will kill you, right? Yes.

Oh, damn, we got two shows and one tonight. Who wants to get started? Where are we so far? I was a baseball practice. Dude, we're not even in Cool of the Week. So what are we doing? Cool the week. Cool the week.

Lance finally saw they will kill you. So I guess we're talking about. that. AKA Lance finally did his job. It's a be real about it. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I finally stepped up to the plate.

They will too. I use a baseball analogy, Pedro, because we know you're such a, such a mark for baseball. So I finally stepped up to the plate. I'll give you this a spoiler. Baseball and wrestling are my tools in the week, especially this one.

I figured. Speaking of that, are you going to mania? What's that? Are you going to mania? No, I'm going to couch a month. Mania. I'll be on my couch where I actually took I actually took four days out from work because it's not just as you guys know Right and as it's not just WrestleMania. We have all kinds of shows

Coming at us, you know everything from Bloodsport to GCW So and there's even like some AW over the week actually I think today there's some AW So yeah, just chilling on the couch for four straight days eating some in and out I might try to go to Micromania in Vegas when I'm down there. I'm going Sunday. I'm only going to say. I wish I could go all week. Now, when you go to Micromania, do you get to go in for half price?

I don't know. It was 30 bucks the last time we went. But it was fun. It was a good time. Full of mania. That's not terrible. That didn't seem unrealistic. No, man, it was fun.

It's really small in there. But no pun intended. But it was a small, it's a small room. Okay. The wrestling ring and the little entryway takes up most of the room in that. It was cool. But anyway, they will kill you. I thought it was good.

I mean, I didn't know anything about it. I'm not that big a fan of Zazzy Beats. So I was like, oh, okay. All I knew was just her and Patricia Arquette was in it. By the words of Lance. I didn't know who, Heather else wanted it. But when Rolla Girl showed up, Heather Graham and Malfoy, I thought that was cool. But then when something happened in the beginning, I was like, gee, he was only in it for like two minutes.

And that's it. It looked that way. I didn't know it was going to take that spin and get all wild and crazy. But the thing that I loved about, the thing that gets a 10 about it, I love those movies when they just go overboard with the blood. It just reminded me of the old Shalien movies and Kill Bill. When people were getting cut and thousands of gallons of blood was pouring out. I loved all that.

It was a hilarious movie. It was a good runtime. It wasn't, they didn't have to stretch it out to two hours. So I was like, okay, good. because scream there was no need for that to be two hours um but i enjoyed it i thought it was cool i want to see it again um i just saw the one time in the theater so i assume we just want to start streaming i'll check it out somewhere again but i enjoyed it i thought it was a cool movie yeah i enjoyed it i enjoyed it too i'm i'm glad they got some of the backstory in there

because i was afraid it was just going to kind of like like everley for example right where it just kind of started off and she was already in the predicament but they actually went back and showed like a scene in the past and set everything up with her relationship with her sister and all that. And I liked that. I was also thrown off like Nez was. I thought they killed off who I thought was supposed to be a major character like really, really early. It was a little cheesier than I was hoping it would be. I knew it was going to be a lot of action. I knew we were going to get a lot of Tarantino-esque stuff in here. And you mentioned Kill Bill, but it was a little too comedy heavy for me.

It was a little more comedy heavy than I would have liked, but that's okay, you know, to each their own. But definitely enjoyed it. Loved watching Zazi Beats fight it out, especially in that early scene. So, yeah, I was, I ain't going 10 on 10 like Nez, but I'll go a good seven and a half. I'll go seven and a half on it.

I'm going to go six on 10. Like you said, Lance, what kind of turned me off was how. silly it got. They just got silly with it. These movies, we're starting to go into this pattern of this very safe, you know, hot chick versus these demonic entities

kind of vibe. And not only that, we've also starting to go into this new trend of like these regular people who just know how to fight kind of thing. You know, we saw it. Well, she was in prison, you know. She learned all her fighting skills in prison.

Like that was There's a lot of Pussies that I know that came out of prison I just put it that way Okay I believe it at that I can learn how to fight Um

Went in there and did a good job He did time And yeah Like we have this one We have That what we're talking about The Asian kid from Indiana Jones So you know

He did that movie was it love hurts Same thing you know And then it was the one there was the one with that one guy from the one that played Pennywise. Boy kills the world. Yeah, that got goofy. Bill Scars guy. Yeah, Bill Scarscar.

But it's the same movie. It's the same pattern. It's like you're playing the Kung Fu video game. That's literally all it is. And so. Yeah, that's a fair statement. Look, to me, I like watching movies when there's stakes, right? When there's stakes, all of a sudden we get more involved.

because there's real life stays. That's the point of watching a good movie. When the movie becomes a cartoon, all of a sudden, I'm just waiting for it to end. And it's like, this movie didn't have enough for me to keep engaged once I saw it was a cartoon. You know? Once I saw, like, all these people kind of,

their limbs came back when their head gets shopped off. And I know there was a lot of comedy behind that, but I just, I don't know, it wasn't my thing. So six on ten. Now, I do appreciate Ciz Bez going around, walking around in her underwear for half of the movie. That was nice, you know? I certainly didn't shut my eyes out to that.

But other than that, I was like, no, I'm doing. And then I had a whole thing with her sister. And then that one guy that was, like, driving them around at the end. And it was whatever. I thought it was something we needed because everything horror-wise that's been out, everything's being real serious. I was like, okay, that's what I'm like, all right, just entertain me. well ready ready or not too was pretty silly nes yeah we just came out of ready or not too

like that's what what two and how many other ones did we have that were all serious um yeah primate primate was mostly serious primate and psycho killer and even the other ones that are on shutter and all though everything's all serious so i was like yeah the mortuary assistant and all then just just make me laugh i mean i'm tired of being that what was that i hear you did you guys do that one undertone yeah yeah that was too serious, man. I was waiting for something to happen and nothing happened. I was too, man. I was like, come on.

But I was just like, come on, just entertain me. Let me, let me laugh a little. I can see that. It seems like are they getting away from all the raunchy comedy that we were getting for a while? We haven't had one for a minute. Yeah, well, that's

different. I mean, I'm all for raunchy comedies. I just, I just, I just revisited Meatballs too the other day. I was laughing my ass on. Meatballs, which one? Meatballs part two. Oh, that one. That's awesome.

I love that movie. Hold on. Hold on. Y'all didn't see Joe's College Road Trip from the universe of Medea on Netflix last month? Come on. Come on. Come on, man.

That's a fun, raunchy comedy. Come on. Get real. If it says Madea on it, it's like WWE Studios. I run away. I go the other way. Okay. I don't even remember the last Medea movie I've seen.

I mean, I'm just like, I'm good. There's been a few. All right. Was that your cool? Yeah, you want to get into spoilers, Brian, or do we even really need to? I mean, you kind of get what you think you're going to get, right? For the most part, I just wasn't expecting all the comedy. When did it come out?

February or March? I don't even remember. It was a while ago. Brian knows. Yeah, it's very, it's very cut and dry. Is it, you know, these rich people, because, you know, they can't come up with any other Yeah, I think there's even a line in there, rich people. Right?

They have to sing where they have to be... Gentrification. Feed on, you know, regular folk. Oh, and they also get them to turn them into the entitled people, right, or whatever. Correct. Well, allegedly. Well, Mr. Arcette, and then, you know, the African-American fellow, they came in as regular folk, and then they were turned into, like, entitled folk.

so yeah that's kind of far-fetched i mean that's what happened i'm just going on no i got you and then homegirl's sister came in as a regular maid but then they turned right right like entitled made and so um yeah zizi betts's job is to like find her sister and their sister's like no i don't want to go i'm cool and then right all of a sudden there's like a talking pig like a pig that I just... Yeah, that's right. And then the pig head actually starts taunting them. Remember he starts taunting them?

Because he's not talking. And there is this thing. The end doesn't really make sense, but whatever. We already knows a cartoon. Yeah, it's a cartoon. If your name is on the pig head, you have like eternal life.

So, so... Best does this thing where she switches her sister's name or her name or her sister's name, I think. but somehow everybody else's name from the pighead gets deleted and they all die except for the sister who's eternal all of a sudden and it's just that's it that's the end of the movie yeah they got big head who's supposed to be the devil or some shit I guess I wanted to

enjoy it more I definitely wanted to enjoy it more but I didn't hate it you know seven and a half you know but it was a good time was it like six it was a good time wasted like I I didn't hate it. It's a good way to put it. But I was getting tired of that. It's the same fucking story. Like, you know, we get it. Right.

Crazy final girl against all these demonic people. Like, it was something new. Yeah, I'll buy that. Time for something new. I got you. It was good to see Heather Graham on the big screen. I had seen her in the theater a long time. She's a lot.

She's got to be in her mid, early 50s at least. She looked like she did something to her face. I'm sure she did. She always had those big eyes. She has those big eyes that are very appealed. Right. Yeah. Wasn't she in that one movie last year?

I can't remember what it was called. It was like a really weird title. And I think it came direct to streaming. I thought she was in something last year. I just... What was it? Oh, she's born in 56? No, she is 56.

Oh, she is 56. I was saying, okay. You look probably good for being born in 56. All right. It's a few years younger than me. Okay. I think the last thing I saw her in was Chosen Family. Chosen Family. Okay.

Some romantic comedy. I'm sure I saw it then, Nez. I'm sure I saw it. All right. So this was nobody's cool of the week then, safe to say, or was that your cool of the week, Nez? No. What did I watch this week?

Oh, shit. You know, as. Yeah, I don't remember what I watched. I'm watching a lot of... Oh, that shark movie. Oh. Oh, that's on Netflix.

I watched that. Okay. I was like, what's happening here? I mean, I like these stupid shark movies. Mm-hmm. Except for the Meg, those ones, I can't get behind them. Not as big a fan, huh?

No, but this one, it was... CGI was decent and if they did use anything practical when the sharks were attacking them, I thought that was cool. But yeah, I mean, it was what it was.

It was cutting dry and it was really quick. They didn't really focus on anything. I did have an issue with the pregnant lady and the baby, but I was like, no. You let that one go, huh? I let it go because I thought when the sharks were attacking,

I thought that was all cool. I liked it. I thought that was a cool flick. All right. Cool. So thrash, huh? Yep. All right.

What's he got, Pedro? Oh, like I said, I've been watching some baseball. I got my Dodgers ready to a three-peat. Did you guys? I was over at Dodgers Stadium a couple days ago. And I heard that Pat Riley actually trademarked the term three-peak. So if anybody's ever going to... That makes sense.

Not that it becomes a big thing, right? because very few teams are ever in that predicament, but my team is this year. So if they take it all the way, they don't have to pay Pat Riley some money. They use the term three-pee, you know? That's just the way he trademarked it. That's all right.

He's a good L.A. guy. So I guess if an L.A. team has to share with someone that may as well be from L.A., right? Kick him down with half of what he would charge anybody else to use that. There you go. Probably cut him a deal. Give them some free. an out burger or something right i i started doing something i started doing something um like revisiting

a lot of like my favorite filmmakers like entire filmography in order because i have a huge collection of like physical media so i have all these DVDs and bluress and whatnot so i started with stephen spillberg and i revisited duel over the weekend i think i feel like yeah a couple days ago man that movie holds up i love that movie so 10 what was the last time you get sold cool but But, I mean, that movie's awesome. There's so much tension throughout the hour and have runtime. You never see the guy's face, the trucker. You never see his, you know.

Right, right. There's a great scene in a diner that's like just pure cinema, you know. I forget the name of the actor that was the main guy in Duel. I think it was a made-for-TV movie, wasn't it? It wasn't made-for-TV movie, yeah. is a McLeod Dennis Dennis Weaver

Dennis Weaver Okay there you go He's only McLeod in my eyes There you go Old schoolers out there So yeah He was He was great in the role

Just again the tension The diner scene Kind of like the metaphor Of the movie How it's him against himself You know There's something happening in this movie So I revisited that, and it was a great movie.

Also, I'm still going through my MCU revisit as we march into Secret Wars in a couple years, and then Doomsday this year. I rewatched Iron Man 3. And I got to say, man, I mean, that movie is very divisive, but once you understand the point of that movie, who directed it, and it's a funny comedy from the 80s, you know, you learn to appreciate it more. And so it's a shame black film, essentially, that, you know. And once you find that, you know, you accept that, it's a good fucking movie.

You know, it reminds me of the old 80s buddy cop movies, you know, where Robert Downey Jr. And Don Chito doing their thing. Yeah, and it's got a great cast. It's got William Satler in it. Oh, man. It has Miguel Ferreri points out of the way, you know, it's an old, like, 80s character actor from back of the day. And it's just It's just a good time

So I appreciated that movie even more And then I saw Thor, Dark World That movie still fucking sucks So don't rewashed It doesn't hold up, okay Is that the second one? Yeah, that's the second Thor, yeah And so that's pretty much it

You know, just oh and then I caught up with Daredevil I was going to skip Derdil this year Just because the first episode Didn't really grab me But then everybody's kind of putting their pants over How great the rest of the show is Especially episode four I caught up with it

and sure enough man it's a goddamn good show so and then it's also I don't know it's weird because I don't know if it's gonna be I think it's gonna be tied up with a Spider-Man you know it should be yeah but it's weird

because if you see the storylines from Daredevil where the Kingpin is the mayor of the city and then in the Spider-Man trailer he's getting the key to the city like that doesn't jive From the Kingpin? Are they, like, I don't know if they decide to separate the TV world with the movie world?

No. Well, if you notice in the trailer, the lady that's Kingpin's assistant is the one that's given Spider-Man the key. Oh, okay. From the TV show. Yeah, okay. I don't know of that, but maybe. Yeah, it's supposed to all be canon, Pedro. Yeah, because I mean, because I mean, they have the same punisher.

He's in both the TV and the movies. And he's going to have a movie next month. You know, he's got his own thing going on next month, which I believe he directed. So that's going to be fun to see. Oh, nice. So that's kind of been my cool of the week, you know, revisiting old MCU movies, old Steven Spielberg movies,

watching baseball. Oh, no, and I already put over this weekend. Big weekend for wrestling fans. Not really excited about WrestleMania. I think, I'm sure Brian and Ness have talked about it on their show, but it's like I haven't been thrilled with the bill. I think it's just been one of the worst builds to a big show in a long time. Essentially, what's been happening lately is that they've been burying their own product.

They've been talking shit about their own product on TV, which is never good. It's never ever succeeded. WCW in 2000 tried shit like that. Right. They end up running out of business. So it's just not the best buildup. They have Pat McAfee out there saying some dumb shit. That doesn't make any sense.

but yeah but I'm still going to be here excited I'm the old lazy boy all weekend so yeah that's my cool of the week all right nice I got a

I got a bone to pick with wrestling Nez help me out here dude how come you guys might all know because you guys are all into wrestling how come you can't gamble on wrestling

no actually actually you could gamble can you yeah really Yeah, anything. Man, you know what? I got, man, I got a bone to pick with my son-in-law, RJ. And I know you're listening because you listen to the show every week, RJ.

You welched on me, dude. Because I did a bet. RJ was in town. We were making some NBA bets and stuff like that. And then, damn to this motherfucker didn't welch on me. Because I picked, what's your girl's name is? Your home girl in wrestling? Who?

Rearip? You know the one I'm talking? Yes. Yes. I picked her to win it and she won the damn thing and he said well oh double or nothing on our rockets bet earlier that you that you know that you won I said yeah I'll double or nothing to you on that and I said I'll take ria Ripley and she won it and I never heard from him since he said well it wasn't a real bet because it wasn't on the app so we don't count that one and I'm like that doesn't sound right to me come on you you could bet on wrestling you they they they so I got to find you got to find him okay But when they allow you to bet is you're betting on who you think the bookers choosing to win the match. I don't know. Oh, is that how it goes?

Okay. I'll have to look for that. All right. All right. Sorry to jump it. Brian, you want to go next or you want to wait? Yeah, I'll go real quick. I saw Exit 8.

Exit 8. Liminal horror video game adaptation. Oh, yes, yes. This movie is equally interesting. and boring at the same time. Uh-oh. Okay. It had my attention, and then at times it didn't have my attention,

because essentially this guy, he's in a subway, he walks down a hallway, and then he's stuck in the endless loop, trying to find his way out, and he's got to find anomalies throughout the endless loop to figure out a way to get out. And like I said, it's interesting. but at the same time, it's a little boring because I don't think it should have an hour and a half. Anomalies, huh?

What do you mean by anomaly? Like, there's like posters on the wall, lockers. Like, if anything, he's walked past, is different than it was before. Oh, come on. That's like those little games they put in the newspaper that you say, what's different from this picture from the other? That's boring as hell, man.

What is this called? Exidation. and what else did I see I saw good luck have fun don't die yeah Phillips Phillips cool from last week

it was okay yeah I know I didn't stick with it I might catch it later it was great cast weird concept like weird shit happening it's your typical

come from the future gotta fix the past oh yeah we've seen it a hundred times, right, Pedro? Yeah, but I love that movie, though. I thought that movie was awesome. Yeah.

I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think a lot of charm to you. So, Lance, you're saying you didn't really vibe with it, huh? Well, I got, I got into that beginning scene where he was in the diner and like walking weird and saying, you, last time you did this, last time you did that, last time, I wanted to fall in love with you. And I was like, man, this is kind of silly. And it's very long.

And there was still another two hours and seven minutes still left. Oh, so you jumped off. Okay. I jumped off. But I may come back. I may come back. I just didn't give it a fair shake. I had other stuff going on that night, you know?

No, yeah. And it's pretty cool because it's not just like a linear movie. They have flashbacks. So they keep you engaged in the long run. You're right. It is long. But they do keep you engaged. And then I thought the third act was pretty satisfying and tense

when they finally achieved. their mission or whatnot. So I like that. I liked it a lot. But I mean, Simon Rock was awesome. I mean, and I was just in all just how he could be so comedic at times.

And then when he does dramas, he could be so serious. It's just a great actor, you know? Sure. Yeah. Although even he couldn't save that, that polter gas remake.

Am I right? No, you're right about that. But I'll give it another, I'll give it another shot. So, Brian, you're just kind of meh on this one? I liked it. It's just ran a little too long, and Pedro's right, Sam Rockwell, did carry it. But I did like the other characters that were in it. Right. Okay.

And I also saw Project Hell Mary. Oh, nice. I like this one better. The guy that wrote the book wrote The Martian, right? Correct. Yeah, same writer. Okay. I like this one better than a Martian. Oh, nice. Most people are seeing the opposite, so I'm glad to hear that. Lance, did you ever catch up with that one, Project Helmary?

Not yet. Not yet. I really want to see it in the theater. It's still playing in the big screen here. Even here in Melbourne, Florida, believe you. I don't have to go to downtown Disney. I just got extended in this theater run. Yeah, it's when I play to see on the big screen.

It means money back. It was a big hit. So, I mean, I'm thinking like this year, you know, They just need to give the Oscar to the Odyssey, right? Because there's literally no movie that's going to compare to the Odyssey. It's going to... So I was thinking, Project Hell Mary, that would be a good movie for an Academy Award nomination or whatnot. But it's like, this is going to be the Odyssey's here anyway.

So they're all going to be token selections, whatever, it goes against the Odyssey. Well, I know that it's playing in Iran or Iran, however you pronounce it, because I got real curious. I was playing around with the map to see, like, where it was geopolitically with the rest of the world. and I looked at the straight of Harmuz and all that stuff. And I scroll down, I'm like, wait, movie theater. And they're Short Project Helmerie and then a bunch of Iranian movies. So there you go.

Space is the universal language, right? That's right. All right, so is that your cool of the week, Brian? Yeah, I'll go with Project Helmer. I did like it. I liked it better than a Martian. I thought Ryan Gosling did a good job. I liked the little character, Rocky.

They did good with Rocky. Good. That's what I was worried about. The only thing I didn't like, I don't know, maybe I'm just getting older and I just want shorter movies, but this was over two and a half hours long. Oh, yeah. They got to be. And I don't know. Again, this is, folks, if you're all listening to us or watching us or whatever, we're all old here.

Just know that. Just preface that by saying that. Yeah, you're right, Brian. Like, it went too long. And then there was these, and I don't want to say it didn't have to be because I'm not the artistic director. But, like, there was scenes where, like, Ryan Gossel is, like, trying to rock you to do something or whatever. And they just went on forever. Like, yo, we get it, bro.

Like, you're trying to, you know, meet each other and learn each other's cultures. But, yeah, so, I don't know. It was cool. I liked it, too, but I don't think I'll ever watch it again. It was just, it wasn't that good. I mean, people are, like, creaming their pants over this movie for some reason. It's no duel, huh? No, you got you kidding me, man?

Shit. Fair enough. All right, Project Hell Mary. I got my not-so-cool of the week. That's for damn sure. Somebody talked about it last week. Brian, I think you did. The Bride?

The Maggie Gillinghole? I buried that movie on this show, so I did my part. How do you mispronounce her name? When you talk about Jake Gyllenha, you say his name, right? I don't know, man. But this thing was, to quote Nez, trash. This thing was terrible. Have you seen this, Niz? No, I'm good. I'll wait to listen. Yeah, stay away. Stay away. That's my advice. I don't, man. And they even had

what I usually love, which was a song and dance number. But it's literally, it was literally the same exact song and the same exact number from young Frankenstein. And I'm like, really? How are you going to get away with putting on the wits? A Frankenstein movie. Christian Bale. Well, the thing is that they call him Frankie in this movie, which piss me off because Franklin's Ben is not the fucking monster. But anyways,

they call him Frankie. Remember, Frankie's a sinophile in this movie. That's one thing people are- He's a-searching himself in the scenes in the movie, right? For literally no reason. They never really explain why Frankie, the monster is a fucking cinephile. They don't explain anything in this movie.

Bless your heart, I love the actress. But for crying out loud, she gets that terrible accent where she's trying to be Mary Shelley. That's right. Kind of like a, what would you call her? Kind of like multiple split personality. Yeah, the third, yeah, Timeless Tony Storm. That's a good example.

The 30s, the 1930s accent. It's pretty bad, pretty bad. What else am I going to say? I buried this movie already once on this show. I'm not going to go over it again. Yeah. But every guy in the movie wants to fuck her for some reason. Why?

Like, it is almost like rape, isn't it? Like, is this a toxic masculinity thing like last week? I guess there's a message in there somewhere. I guess. Yeah, and then there's scenes that don't make any sense. Like, for example, you have the two detectives that are going after them, right?

Oh, yeah. During that particular dance. Yes, guys, yeah, during that particular scene, the dance scene, they find them and they're just staring at them. Like, hey, look, they're dancing. Isn't that cute? And it's like, I don't know. This, I give this a one.

I give this a one on ten. This is terrible. The musical act could not save it, Brian. Keep that in your notes, all right? Yeah, writing it down in my diary. All right, my cool of the week, I'll make it quick, because we've talked about a lot. But my cool of the week, I'm going to go with Twitter.

28 days later, the Bone Temple, finally saw it. Not a great movie, Biny Stretch, not a masterpiece. It was better than the first one. Yeah, better than the first, but I really love the silliness

of, like, the Iron Maiden scene. I convinced him all that he was the devil. He was, like, pat all the makeup on and lit all the candles around the Bone Temple and was dancing to Iron Maiden. That was worth the price of admission to me. No, that was awesome. with it. And when I went to go see it at the theater, it got a big pop. I'm using a wrestling

term, but it got a big round of applause. They got a big round of applause. People like that scene. Because it was so ridiculous and over the top. However, it made sense within that world because remember, the little kids don't know nothing about Iron Maiden. They've never heard Iron Maiden. Oh, good point. Good point. I mean, they don't know nothing about that world, you know. I don't know, I don't know about Jimmy, because Jimmy's a little older, you know, maybe I don't know if who I were made and was or not, maybe not, who knows? But, but, but the kids didn't. So, well, they were all Jimmy's, right? The main Jimmy, I guess. The jimmies, yeah. The jimmies. Old Nick. But the main Jimmy, he was, I don't know if he knew, if he ever heard of Iron Maiden

or not, but he also got work. He also felt for the cons. So, yeah, boy, didn't he ever. I love that. I love He ended up becoming the next Jesus, didn't he? Well, yeah, yeah, upside. And then they had the old zombie or whatever. He came back, you know, so they showed us how to reverse. Samson? I didn't like his long being in front of me for too long, man, because that's all, you know, but other than that, it was.

Yeah, they kept the long in there. He put some pants on that to end. They had a loin cloth in this one. All right, moving on, Brian. We got any horror headlines? Yeah, we'll start with some TV news. The Burbs on Peacock officially renewed for Season 2. I don't see how.

I tapped out on episode 1. It was all right. Okay, I watched it. I tapped out on the trailer, so I never even saw it. Kiki Palmer and I'm good. It was no Tom Hanks, but it was all right. Peter Dinklage is joining the cast of Alien Earth Season 2. Where's he going to fit in the timeline?

Brian. Snuggly. I like poor Peter Dinklage. I'm just going to say what we're all doing. He can do no wrong with me right now. No, he could do no wrong, but here's, I'm just going to say what we're all thinking. Every time he's cast in anything because of his miniature size, like, we always think where, where is he going to fit in that movie? Like, what is he going to do in that show?

Like, poor guy could never catch a break. But the good, he gets the last laugh on us because he always impresses us with how awesome he is. Always. Always. that we forget even an elf he's so great that we forget that he's a man of a smaller stature

you know agreed agreed every single time he gets casting something we're like what the fuck like where is he fit in all this you know and now with alien earth what is going to happen what are they going to find them in a planet somewhere where what's going to where is he going to fit in all this

are they going to study him they may do a marvel thing with him where they make him a giant you know like he's carrying He's forging planets or something, you know. Toxic Avenger wasn't all that. Not really.

Not really. I was disappointed. True enough. That was at his peak of, like, being a big star, you know, because that toxic. That toxic Avengers is like four years old. We just got to see it, but it's been around for a while. Yeah. He owed somebody something, maybe.

That's right. Well, he was a man of his word. He did it, so. He did. I can give him that, but as a fan of the franchise, I was just like, I liked how he looked, but it wasn't him. It was a younger woman in the costume. Yeah, that was weird.

I was like, I didn't care. Let's see, Lena Heady, Andrew McCarthy, and James Lance joins the cast of Wednesday season three. Hmm. Okay. more Game of Thrones they ought to bring Peter Dinklage in there too then man oh Jenna Ortega she's about to get cancelled because she's dating that Nazi rock star so

are you serious I've been hearing those headlines that they they're a lot of her fan base are very upset with her her days are numbered and she's got to be careful because a lot of her fan base does tend to be those kind of like you know more wokeish kind of people and stuff like that which you know it's cool that no no shade there

but, you know, she's got a, that could, somebody like Jenna Ortega, that could really cost her a lot. So I'm trying to say. Who's her voice? Yeah. I don't know, some guy, I don't, I don't listen to like new emo rock. That's not my vibe. Not your, not your forte, huh? But I'm more of an iron mating guy, you know, so.

But this new band that this guy's in, he has a lot of, like, Nazi symbolism and he has a lot of, like, white power stuff. And, and to top it off, I believe he's like 10 years older than, he's like, he's like, he's, 10 years older than her too which is kind of riling people up so we'll see what happens right now right now I'm the Michael Jackson mean with the popcorn I'm just waiting to see what's now

I'm waiting for Michael that movie's going to be awesome that's right that's next week I'm excited for it yeah let's see Dan Stevens joins the cast of Dexter Resurrection Season 2 he will play the serial killer the five borough killer

but will he have a piccolo Brian and would he have an accent that's my question some wacky accent yeah I think he's a five borough killer he's gonna have like a New York accent probably yeah probably

and that's good casting I could see I'm doing stuff like that I can't too yeah and Uma Thurman will return to the show also oh she's gonna be on Dexter side. Well, spoiler alert, if you haven't seen the first season. You got to say spoiler alert before you say the thing.

Spoiler alert, she'll be on Dexter's side then. I can see it now. All right. I saw her, by the way, speaking of all these, like, they will kill you kind of movies. I just saw her in that one that was on Prime Video is the same fucking story with all these, the ballerina girls. Oh, yeah, the new one with the ballerinas in it. Right. Yeah, I was like, come on. Another fucking story with the same story. shit pretty pretty lethal pretty lethal there you go that's what it was i saw that shit then i just started dust in my apartment i'm like fuck there's it'll be background noise but you had it on the background right yeah i did i did oma thurman plays this russian like old ballerina and she has a

russian accent kind of kind of weird but i'm like does she need money like what the what's going on here whatever pays the bills let's see linda cardalini joins bill haters horror film they know the horror movie that Bill Hader is going to write, direct, and also star in. This is after the Crystal Lake show? Yeah, which we're going to get a trailer for that real soon because the showrunner

tweeted out that the episodes are already done and mixed. Okay, well, I'm glad she's busy. She's a good little actress, so I'm glad that she's staying busy with a few things here and there. All right, really quick. Back to Janet Ortega's boyfriend. this band sucks listening to it it's a band called Ice Age if that ain't there you go

that it no you got it you got it if you guys listen to it any of your listeners hey more power to you I'm an old man this shit is trash anyway next I could have told you that but I had to look it up but if he's a Nazi he's also trash yeah there's a whole list

of stuff he's done ouch have you guys seen the movie terrified from director Damien I keep trying to get me to watch it. Sounds familiar, yeah. Was that on shutter, Brian? Is that a shutter one? Yeah, that's a shutter exclusive. Yes, I saw it. It's just really good. It's an old school, like, yeah, yeah, I like it. It is getting an American remake from Alien Earth, Noah Wahallie.

Oh, wow. Just worry about Alien Earth. Yeah, it's going to be all full of symbolism and shit. Fuck that. Right. Symbolism. That's on Noah Wiley does. He's like, he's just, does all these things where he's supposed to think about shit. And it's like, it's like Ness said, just entertain me. Like, I don't have to fucking think about how humanity is connected to this. And, you know, that's all he does. I hear you, man.

Don Mancini is writing and directing a new Chucky movie that is scheduled to hit theaters. And they say, Chuckie is going full horror this time. As in opposed to what? So in other words, even Naz is going to say this is a horror movie this time. With Mark Hamill? No. With Brad Doroff. What did you say, Lance?

So even Naz is going to say this one's a horror movie, huh? Yeah, I guess they're going away from the comedy. The comedy? They got way too silly at the end. Way too silly. The giant Chuckie and all that bullshit. The TV show was fun, but it got silly. Right.

And coming from Cincinnati. Cinema con, we got some release dates here. The Revenge of Lila Rona. It's theaters April 9th, 2027. All right, mark it on my calendar. AMCA list, or here we come. The second of the two new Evil Dead movies, Evil Dead Raff, hits theaters April 7th.

Oh, wow. 2028. Oh, okay. 2028. 2020, what the hell's that movie? What is CinemaCon? So they got to keep those theater owners happy with these titles. Final Destination 7 hits theaters May 12, 2028.

Okay. All right. Got something to look forward to for the next two years. Gladys. Gladys. Here we go. Hits theaters September 8th, 2028. That's a long way away.

Okay. Two and a half years. It's turning out so long. Like, just write the fucking movie shoot it and release it. Remember, like, Scream 1 and Scream 2 came out like eight months apart from each other, like, back in the day? Sure. Sure. Like, why don't they do shit like that anymore?

Everything has to be so slow, no. I don't get it. Gladys. Let's see. We're going to fuck up that character. Gladys Cravitz. I think I'm not really excited for it because Zach Krueger, from what I understand, he's only writing it. He's not directing it.

Oh, I didn't even know that. makes it even worse. Here we go. It's going to be like that Chavez guys that fucks up all the Blumhouse movies. What was his name? Chavez? The one that knows the Ligerona movies.

Yeah, Michael Chavez. They're going to hire him to do Gladys. Speak of the devil. The howling is getting a reimagining from production company's studio canal. Okay. Another one.

It should be the marsupios. That'll be a good remake. Let's see. Nicholas Cage and Osgood Perkins are reuniting for another long legs movie Of course But this one will not be for Neon

This is moving to Paramount Because Neon said the scope and budget Of what they want to do is too much For them And also Nick Cage I don't think you guys remember this He said he would never do that character again Did he?

He said he would never play a serial killer again I guess they backed up the Paramount truck Yeah Maybe he wants to to buy another dinosaur head. He's like, all right. Give me that money. Well, he said... The IRS took over another house.

No, no, he just... He's going to do it. But he said he would never play a serial killer again. Well... I guess he didn't want to get typecast, you know, and then now he's getting typecast. Sounds like he's typecast. He should have just do it. Well, all these crazy movies are just busting out, left and right? We're never even a hero.

Sure, sure. Just take that check and do the role. And finally Wear that tiny tin makeup and get your money. That's scary. And finally, behind the mast tube, the return to Leslie Vernon is officially in development. All right.

All right. So they got the kickstop because that was a Kickstarter for a while. So I don't know if they completed the Kickstarter or they're still on the kicks. But I'm looking forward to it. I don't know. There's two things I don't get about that movie. A, why we never got a sequel. and B, how come that actor never made more other stuff?

Because that actor that plays Vernon is awesome. Yeah, good questions. He is officially returning for this one, so. There you go. All right. All right, that is the trailers. All right. Nez, you ready to take a trip down to the trailer park?

Yep. All right, Brian. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's our first new trailer tonight, Brian? We're going to start with a teaser from your boy, Lance, Eli Roth, Eli Roth's ice cream man. What did you guys think of Eli Ross Ice Cream Man? I was hoping to see Clint Howard on there, but he wasn't on there.

That's the ice cream that I think of. That one's also getting a sequel. I mean, it looked interesting. It looks like a killer kid movie, you know? So I guess these killer kids, they eat some sort of weird ice. Maybe it's like the movie The Stuff, you know, where you eat that shit. Oh, yeah. Crazy shit.

And so that's what it seems like to me from the trailer. So it's all right. It looks cool. I'm going to check it out for sure. You know. Yeah. He earned some trust with me with Thanksgiving, which I really like. I know Lance hated that fucking movie, but I liked it.

So we'll see where it takes us. Hopefully it gets a theatrical too. Yeah, I was thinking the stuff. What's that movie with Elijah Wood? Cudies. Oh, yeah, cooties. Of course, yeah. Yeah.

And that trauma film, The Children, too, from way back in the day. Oh, yeah. We saw that way back. Yeah. We did that one. That's what I was thinking. See, I'm watching it now.

Seeing those kids. Yeah, they look like them. That's what they need to remake. Remake that movie. Lance, do you know how in the movie, the children, you know how the children kill you? Yeah, how's that? They hug you.

Maybe that's what these kids will do, but they'll give you an ice cream cone or something, right? Went up in flames. It's definitely colorful. It's a colorful trailer, like the truck and all the colors of the costumes the kids are wearing and all that. So it could be interesting. We'll see. You're struggling to find something good to say about a Eli Roth movie. I'll give Eli a shot here.

It's colorful. What'd you think, Naz? It looks cool. It's got Eli's signature crazy people in his films like he always does.

It feels like an Eli Roth movie. Right. Hopefully he's not chinty with the blood. But from what I'm seeing, it looks like it'll be good. I wasn't expecting much from Thanksgiving,

but I left the theater. Like, man, that was awesome. I heard he's trying to go a little bit harder than he did in Thanksgiving in this one. Go back to Cabin Fever type of style. That was good. Or even the second hostel. Not the third that he had nothing to do with? No.

He went more bloody. He went real bloody on that second one. But yeah, that's the Eli Roth I want because what was that Cannibal Holocaust ripoff? Oh, green inferno. That one thought. I was disappointed. But yeah, I mean, I'll check it out. Yeah, hopefully it gets a theatrical release or... Yeah.

Go at Comic-Con. He always shows his movies down there. This is going straight to theaters, August 7. Maybe then there will be a Comic-Con screening. Maybe he'll pull up with the ice cream truck at Comic-Con. Yeah, he should do that too, man. maybe there's tickets in the ice cream bars he's handing out i don't know we'll see he had that he had that very it's not it's i think it's a good movie that

that movie where keanu reeves was in between like being a washed-up actor and then his his resurrection as john wick called knock knock that movie came out like in between yeah that movie is hilarious i strangely enjoyed that movie actually that's when they buried they buried there's times i can't tell keanu is acting bad or acting bad on purpose. Exactly. Well, that's every movie he does, though. That's the thing about him.

Did you see the original one? No. Oh, it was a remake, wasn't it? It was a remake, yeah. It was a remake, yeah. It was a, was it an Asian country? No. Where did it come from?

It was American. It came out in the... Was it? Really? Yeah. Oh, okay. It was called Death Game. Death game. Okay.

Yeah. All right. I remember when the trailer came out for knock knock it was on Twitter X, whatever you want to call it. I don't want to say I was the one that bursted everyone's bubble because everyone was going on the trailer dropped and everybody was like, here's my new movie, everyone, enjoy. And everybody's like, oh, yeah, it's going to be awesome.

It's a new movie. And everybody was ran and raving about it. And I ch chimed it. You guys know this is a remake, right? And everyone was like, no, it's not. that's brand new, it was brand new. It went on and on and on until finally Eli Roth came and it said, yeah, it's a remake. I went, there you go.

You must have seen the original then. Yeah, I saw it a long time ago on Showtime. It's of the time. It's 70s film. What's her name is in Knock Knock, Knock, One of the Crazy Girls. What the hell was her name? Conda diarmus? No, the original, in the original.

She shows up in a scene. Yeah, she's a cameo. Colleen Camp. Oh, okay. She shows up. She shows up in Knock Knock. Because it was Colleen. It was Colleen Camp and Sandra Locke. They were the two crazy girls.

And Seymour Castle. I got to see this. So, Seymour Castle was the. Camelianian. he was a Keanu Reeves character and it's it's pretty much the same thing but knock knock was cool

I liked it I liked um Kianu's uh was his assistant or buddy the black guy that was his name

yeah I know a pre-fame Anna DiArmas is in there she plays one of the girls and Eli Ross wife plays the ex-wife plays the ex-wife plays the that's right that's right Aaron Burns

he was a Lewis in knock knock Aaron Burns okay I liked him in that role when those girls were trying to seduce them and he went off on him frankly that sounds like a better version wasn't he like comparing them to like pizza you're gonna offer me a slice of pizza

of course I'm gonna take it that's right that's right Brian he was I would have to he can't blame him I mean come on all right our next trailer is from andre overdall and it's his movie passenger hmm okay yeah that one that one was interesting it was uh yeah i'm not sure what to think of it me neither it was like a monster movie it starts but then there's other like like possession

kind of thing going on later on uh so but i'm gonna watch it looks interesting enough i mean there wasn't a lot in the trailer but Just those two kind of like tropes kind of caught me. And so I'm going to see what it's all about. Looks interesting. I like what they've been doing so far. They've been keeping a lot of stuff under wraps because when he was working on it, as far as anybody knows, it was untitled, no synopsis, no nothing.

And then dropped the trailer a month before, almost kind of like a Cloverfield thing. Sure. So Oh Passinger What did I see this trailer Well I saw a smaller trailer for it before like a teaser But this one has more in it

When I went and seen Psycho Killer Ah, okay that makes sense That's when I saw this trailer I was like oh go that passenger I'll check it out It's like one of those Don't Ever stop on the side of a dark road.

Mm-hmm. It's one of those little tales someone always tells you. I liked how he was hauling ass down the road and kept seeing whoever that was standing on the side of the road. So I'm intrigued. Yeah, that jump scare guy,

my daughter. Kept looking at the guy. Passing up and then he panned over to the passenger seat. Mm-hmm. Who is this actor? I might have seen him with something unless I'm thinking of someone else. I'm looking at the names here.

I don't recognize anybody. So it's a lot of kind of unknowns then. And that's good too, so you don't have any preconceptions. This is a longer trailer. I saw the one when it was just them in the car. Yeah, I saw the little teaser. Yeah, that's the one I seen. This is a longer trailer.

Yeah, this trailer just dropped this week. Okay. Well, I'm going to stop. watching it because I'm afraid to show. I'm afraid they're showing too much. I like Andre Overdall. I liked, what was it,

autopsy of Jane Doe and I dig scary stories to tell in the dark. It wasn't big on the last voyage of the Demeter. The one we didn't see. Is that what the vampire

and the cargo? Yeah. The only episode were there was four of us and nobody watched the movie. Not one person. Oh, my God. That was a first and hopefully a last. It was all right. Passenger hits theaters May 22nd.

So next month. And finally. It's going to be kind of dry for next month because I saw Brian release the May calendar there and there's a lot of like older movies revisits kind of thing so that told me like it's not a lot going on next month as far as new releases let's see our final trailer is insidious out of the further oh boy lynchay continues to get those paychecks that's all that matters oh boy i'm gonna say oh boy okay let's start with you lance oh boy let's get a little bit more than that because the people at home can't see that i just wish they had stopped insidious like three

movies ago this is fucking ridiculous she's been dead for like the last five and they keep on bringing her back somehow is it is it a flashback movie then or what the last one was the red door i think see i know you don't watch these trailers lance because she's she's dead the person the main character that they're following has the ability to go into the further and and bring back Oh, you may. They should call it Insidia as the Dreammaster or some shit.

It's the same thing. The Dream Warrior. The Dream Warrior, the Dream Master. I think this one's definitely going to be better than the last one because we're getting away from the Patrick Wilson storyline. The Red Door was the last one. Fair enough. The Red Room.

Oh, that's the one where it was him and his son at college together or something, right? He sang the outro song, as he tends to do in his movies. and the one before that was the one where the guy had the middle finger that turned into a key and he slid beside Pedro was joined us for that one yeah I've joined you for all of them actually man the last rough stuff

well I guess then the only good thing about this is we are going to cover it because Brian is going to make us and Pedro will be here so that's exactly make you Lance even if Brian wanted to make you it's not like you go watch these movies land Brian I'm going to make you we're going to yeah we're going to franchise this year for 31 days or yeah

I'm there we're going to do all of them oh no I liked all the movies I enjoy it man I'm glad you did I enjoyed them first one was the best one

that's a very common nest answer right there I like all the movies I like the first three they lost me with the last two I can see that I don't like that, too. They lost me of the last two. I don't remember the door one. The last one I remembered was the last key or something like that.

All the shit in the trailer wasn't in the movie. Yeah. And they were riding around in the mystery mobile, the van, smoking weed. What did you think of this trailer, Ness? I'm watching it right now. It looks pretty good. Oh, yeah. Ness is all in.

Oh, fuck, what the fuck was that? Oh, that it looks like a horror movie too, huh, Naz? Oh, dude. See, I like these movies. I liked all of them. All right, cool. Crawling around in some tunnel and all those old... Oh, hell no.

I'm down. I'll see it. All right. August. August 21st. I didn't even know there was another one coming. I think the lynchay character died in the second one. And here they are.

She's saying... here they are on number six, huh? No, she died in the first. Yeah, in the first one. Oh, in the first one. The third one was cool because it was a, remember the third one was a flashback about her live with Lee one now and the other guy,

and they were kind of the comedy relief. I like that movie. I want a movie of those two guys. They're a little ghost-shanky and Scooby. I want a movie of them too. Yeah, that guy was The guy driving around Zazi beats and they will kill.

Oh yeah, he was. It has the Mohawk in part three. I can watch a series with those guys If they did that. Yeah. I want to see more adventures of them. Like it would be a series because weren't they making like YouTube videos

after? You can make a series in each episode would be like what happens how they, what happens in the videos that they mate. Yeah, we gotta get Lee one out far away from these universal monsters before he fucks all of them up. So it would

be a good idea for him to do this kind of shows. Speaking of that, I watched that wolf man or whatever it was again. Dick man. Trash. I was like, man, you did a good job with Invisible Man and I don't know what that crap was. Yeah, Invisible Man wasn't too bad. That was hell of good.

Kind of a tech angle to it. I kind of liked that. Was that the last movie last trailer? Yeah. Final trailer. All right. Well, we can give you guys a bonus for the action returns trailer. Have you seen the Street Fighter trailer?

Yeah, this movie looks like it's going to be so stupid. It's going to be the funnest movie. Oh, no. Yeah. I don't know about the American nightmare. I do like his hair. No, no, don't get me wrong. I think it's going to be a super fun movie.

And I think they're leaning in. to the goofiness of it. But it's not going to, it's not going to be like number one movie. Like the original street fighter with John Cloud Van Dam? Nothing beats that. The OG.

That movie was powered by cocaine. I love that movie, by the way. I just saw it in the big screen. They played it here in L.A. with the first moral combat. But here's the thing about that trips me out about that street fighter. John Claude Van Dam is playing

Gaiol, an American. The American. He's the soldier. He's got the American flag on his arm. And he makes no effort to hide his French accent throughout the entire movie, like zero, which is funny to me. You know, and then Raul Julia does a, he does a good job as Sam Bison. Like, he's really good in that. Okay. He's the all-star in that movie. Oh, he's awesome. He's really good, yeah.

But they have West Studies playing Sagat, like, you know, a native person, Native American. He's playing Sagat for some reason or West Studi or whatever, you know. Right. So it's a guy like supposed to be Thai. Yeah. Yeah. They got the guy from, they got the guy from blood in blood out playing can. You know?

Miko. Yeah. He's playing can for some reason. Well, choices, you know. So, I mean, it's a, it's a wacky movie. But see, it has to be wacky like that for it to be fun. If it's overly silly, like this trailer showed me, it's, it's, it's, I'm going to be a tab.

I don't know. I don't like those movies. It's a cartoon, you know? I'd rather watch the Street Fighter cartoon. Like Cody Lowe's hair is like overly exaggerated. Sure. Is it CGI or is that or is that a wig? I don't even know.

It's a weird because he just took a picture with the cast and he had it on. Who's the OTC supposed to be? Akuma, Akuma. CTIA air. There he is. in the trailer. I was like, where is he, where's he at? All right. Yeah, I think it's going to be a lot of fun. It's just, there's

some things I was a little iffy on because Jason Momoa, I was excited for him to be Blanca, but when they showed him in the trailer, it looked a little, the CGI looked a little wonky. You have 50 cent as Barrog? That's weird.

Come on. They're bringing everybody back, huh? Is it pronounced Raiu or Riyu? I think that debate's been going on since that name came out, to be honest with you. Because they said it in the trailer. I always just knew it as Ryu, but I'm apparently... I'm going to go with what they said in the trailer because this is made by Capcom.

Okay. Are they going to have Justin Timberlake pop up in this or what? Who's Ken? Noah. It ain't meetball that much. What's his... Noah Centennial. what's he been in

he was in that Netflix show what was it the agent or something huh oh I okay no okay

he was a pretty boy and um to all the boys I've loved before one and two who's also the website

see I think he was also in that uh what was that war movie warfare he was in that I think he was

and I know that one that was filmed in real time he was also in Black Adam he was the Adam the guy that was basically

Ant Man who can shrink and grow So he has a history with Iraq then He was in warfare I'm gonna watch that again That movie was really good Warfare was pretty good man It was all in real time

It was pretty belie good Speaking of the action returns Have you guys seen the trailer for The Furious No No Finally No it's not the fast and the

furious. Are they ever going to get them off that airplane? Nez, look up the trailer for the Furious. I'm watching it right now. It's supposed to be this year's the raid. That's what I'm saying. The raid guys made this, right? Yeah, the guy to play sub-zero is one of the stars.

Okay. How tall is this guy? He looks short. Oh, the main guy? Yeah. they don't matter. I'll tell you as long as you kick ass. Exactly. Oh, man.

Yeah, Bruce Lee showed us that. They're kidnapping little kids. Huh. I hate these type of movies, but I like it when the bad guys get theirs. And they will. I guarantee you they will. That's a zero.

The main guy? He's one of the main guys. Oh, okay. Hmm. It's already got a lot of 10 on 10 user reviews on IMDB. What is this? I trust. I trust these guys over American martial arts movies.

I think this movie is coming to theaters in June. He was beating the hell of those fools. Oh, that other guy was a sub-zero, right? Yeah. Not the main dude. Yeah, the guy he ends up teaming up with. Is there, oh, shit. He hit him in the head with that sledgehammer.

See, I like these movies because all the actions in front of you, like they have to do that. I guess you could say practical, I guess. but they don't cheat. It's like it's happening as you're seeing it. They might speed it up a little bit, but it's still hard as fuck to do this shit. That one dude's in it.

Bad dog. Yeah, that dude's badass. Mad dog. They wasted them in the Force Awakens. Kanja Club, they should have did something with them. Oh, with their two minutes they were in the movie. Yeah. Oh, wasn't this dude?

Fuck, he did that one movie. It's on Netflix. The Night Will Own You or whatever? Yeah. Yeah, dude, that was hell of good. All right, back to wrestling really quick. Hulk Hogan, a real American hero. A real American schmuck.

No, it seems like it's going to be. I love the wrestler Hulk Hogan. Terry Balea, I can't speak for what he's said and done, but I'm still going to watch it. I mean, I'm going to watch it too, but you could tell us a fluff piece just by the trailer. Like, it's a big fluff. No doubt.

What happened to the movie, the biopic that Chris Hemsworth was supposed to play called Kogan? Oh, the investors pulled out. They pulled out. The investors pulled out. Yeah. Probably rightfully so.

Yeah, so. Not real politically correct. It's probably a good idea. Speaking of Chris Hemsworth. Speaking of Chris Hemsburg, we're getting the third extraction movie. That's cool. Those are fun movies. Those are fun.

Yeah, those are always fun. It'll be on Netflix, I assume, Brian. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of like their franchise. We need to have a War Machine part, too. That's what we need to have. Somehow find a way to make it because that was a great movie. I still need to watch that one.

I didn't see it. I won't say great, but I enjoyed it. I wouldn't say great, Pedro. It was real CGI heavy, dude. I mean, like hella C. C.G.I. Heavy, you know? But it had that whole, like, bros, like, kind of vibe to it. And, you know, I'm a sucker for those, like, Army movies.

Absolutely. Oh, yeah, it was great, dude. Yeah, from that very first scene with the brothers and out in the desert and then all the way through the end. Like I say, just a little CGI heavy for my taste. But it was a good story, no doubt. It was a really good story. The one of the Reacher, Reacher guy? Yeah.

Yeah. He's the main guy. Do you think he can be a Batman? He wants to be Batman. I wouldn't fight him. I wouldn't mind him being as Batman, but it would kind of... He's got to drop some weight, though. Yeah, he's too big. Right.

He could be more of a Batman, wouldn't he? Wouldn't he be more of a Bain? But the thing is, when he's Bruce Wayne, you're going to wonder, why are you so fucking big? Why are you that big? He's a motion light that likes to hit the gym. Yeah, walk around a big wig and be a playboy and... Frank Miller's... Dark Night Returns or Returns.

the Dark Night, whatever it is. I mean... That was the older Batman. I know, but he was big. He was really big. Even Bruce Wayne. True. So, I don't know.

But I'm all for it. I'm ready for Street Fighter. I'm ready for whatever that other movie was. The Furious. Furious. I'm ready for that. Furious. I thought you meant Fast and Furious.

I did too. Some reason they're still filming that movie. They've been filming that movie. They've been filming that movie for like two years. I haven't even seen the last one yet. The last one I saw is when they went to space and that one. Oh, you've got to watch the last one. It's ridiculous, Ness.

More ridiculous and going to space? No, that's not more. How? It's literally impossible. They go in a car, by the way, in a little chiquet, bang, bang car. They don't even have a rocket. Oh, they just put tape on themselves, dude, to keep the... Maybe it's because I'm so all in on the franchise that it's not ridiculous to me.

I can remember, they reconged the one guy from part three to all of a sudden know everything about Rockets. Just send them up there. Oh, a little sling blade boy. They do that a lot because Ludacris was just a street racing hustler and two. And now he's a tech genius that can go to outer space. I mean, he can learn, you know. I'll give them that. Didn't they use like those old school deep sea diving suits to go in space?

Yes. With tape. Yeah, duct tape. Dug tape. All right, we took a huge turn. All right. That's the truth. All right.

Time for listener feedback. This week, the podcast spotlight shines on horror flicks and guitar picks. Hosted by Tim and Stephen, a weekly show, merging horror cinema analysis with heavy music culture. New episodes drop every Friday featuring deep dives into horror films, soundtracks, and interviews with musicians or industry professionals about their favorite horror movies. I'll bet they love 28 days later the Bone Temple.

Just a wild guess. And they said, thank you for the shout-out. Nice. All right. Maybe we'll do a show together. All right, let's see. Pat Crusoe says, Question for T-H-R crew. I was cruising through Amazon Prime the other day,

and they have two of them Killer Popeye movies. Which one is the good one? And Patrick Lear followed up with, you assume out of the two, one is good. What do y'all think? Have you all seen these Popeye movies? The only good one is the one with the Snowboard Massacre. That's the whatever that movie is called.

That's the only good one. Yeah, I was about to say, I'm sure between the four of us, we've seen majority of them. The only good one was Robin Williams. Rest in peace. There you go. And that's the scariest one, too, right? I only seen the one,

I forgot which one it is, where the people come, they're fixing up that house. They used to belong to Popeye or his family or something. Yep. And olive oil showed up, right? Yeah. That one was terrible. I think Lance saw all of them.

I think you saw... No, I did. I did. I saw them both. I saw them both for 31 days. I know that. There's another one called shiver me timbers. That's right.

There's three of them. Oh, there's three of them. Oh, there's three of them. Yeah, they're shivvy timbers and the two he mentioned. All right. Let's see. Let's move on here. Regarding Brian's post sharing Donnelly's women and horror show,

Destiny Soraya says, thank you for sharing. So there you go, Brian, another thank you for sharing. Yeah, anytime. Regarding Frankie, Maniac, woman. Matt Wood says that's a fucked up poster. Love it. I'm not sure what this is, but okay.

Matt Wood was here, he would tell us, but he didn't quite make it a day. Didn't quite make it. He's, it's like 3 a.m. there, I guess, in the UK. Regarding poltergeist, he doesn't say which one. Michael

Arnaz. I'm going to assume. The original Michael Arnaz is back. He said, classic regarding at this point that's got to be a bot it has to be a bot dude

like I don't think so no because we called him out last week Brian and we said Michael if you're still listening give us some classics and he's back so he's listening well that is a classic well look regarding Friday the 13th Michael Arnaz also said classic

the franchise has or a single movie? I've assumed the original movie. Brian, what do you remember if it was the poster for the original? Classic is the first one, but it's not, it's all right. I think both of those were for the classic original ones.

All right, regarding Grindhouse, Pat Cruzso says, Planet Terror good, death proved not so good. And I totally disagree. Death proof is the opposite. I'm the opposite. I just think the order, they messed up on the order, because

death proof is a slower movie it's a slower jam you know you gotta take your time with it and planet terra is so like bombastic and outrageous and absurd that it's like yeah if you start with that one there's gonna be hard to get into the slower one so they should have flipped them but you know tarantino's ego would never allow that fair statement fair statement you got to watch you got to watch the extended versions of both of them the the whole one big grind house one those are the shorter versions of them yeah okay yeah that I mean, it's still cool, but especially when you get to deathproof, they cut a lot out. One of the best theater experiences watching the grind house in the theater.

Yeah, that was a lot of fun. And that was Eli Roth, right? Yeah. So I stand corrected. There is something he's done that I like. Oh, he's in it. He didn't do anything. He didn't.

Robert Rodriguez did the first one. Oh, that's right. He was in there trying to get them girls drug, the one he kept mispronouncing their name, Shanna. That's right. Yeah, other than the Spy Kids garbage, I like most of his stuff too. That first Spy Kids, no, the first two Spike Kids, first and the second one were good. I've never seen those. Yeah, and then there were Shark Boy and Lava Girl.

You don't remember that? Yeah, that was my two oldest. That was like their obsession for like a summer. I can understand. But I am Team Shark. I am Team Shark Boy from Yeah. From TNA.

From Twilight. That's right. It is him. I thought I was from TNA. Hell yeah. All right. Regarding Lee Kronin's The Mummy, Anna Martin says, I'm looking forward to this one.

It looks very creepy. I wish people would stop complaining that it's not like Brendan Fraser's The Mummy because that film was never like Boris Karloff's film and yet was totally enjoyable. A mummy to me is someone who is wrapped in bandages and put into sarcophagus, which this child is. It's a

different take on the story and could be a fresh take. What do you think? I like the trailer. Yeah. Right? I'm going to watch it tomorrow, tomorrow morning, so I'm excited for it. Yeah, and I heard we're supposed to get the new Evil Dead movie trailer

with that one. Allegedly. All right. And I'm going to to go here, but I may have to switch over headset in a minute because I just got that, your battery is getting low thing, so we'll see how this goes. Y'all might have to start the

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We'll let you pick the movies for a future show at any amount, and for $5 a month or more, pick a commentary for a future bonus show. And now it's time for our main attraction, Faces of Death. So we start with the OG. 1978, Faces of Death, the documentary. A collection of death scenes ranging from TV material to homemade Super 8 movies, not the best description, maybe.

Director-writer John Allen Schwartz, also known for the TV show Night Rider. in 1985 a California school teacher forced his class to watch the film two of the girls Diane Feese and Sherry forget those sound like fake names don't they were so traumatized their parents sued the school and were awarded $100,000 in a February 2012 interview with the National Public Radio Program on the media the movies creator John Allen Schwartz said that the scene that purports to show real tourist in Egypt killing a monkey

and eating its brains was really filmed in a Moroccan restaurant in the U.S. using Schwartz Friends as actors. Foam mallets covered in concrete, a model monkey with prosthetic breakaway head, a trick table and cauliflower covered in theater blood for brains. During that day... It says during that day of filming,

the cauliflower had become rancid, but the actors decided to go along so it could add to their performances. The woman spitting it out wasn't scripted, neither was the laughter from the rest of the partakers. Really quick. Pedro, how old are you? 45.

All right, here's a question for both of you. When did you guys first hear of this? Go ahead, Brian? Okay, real quick. As a kid, my older brother rented a set of these from the video store and never returned them. And I think I was about probably 12 or 13.

Did you hear about him before he ran to? Yeah. It was like a thing that you had to watch these movies, even though you weren't supposed to. So I think that's why he seek them, look for them in the video store and got him and ended up keeping them. Yeah, I ran it up. I just rented them because being a, being a,

child of immigrant parents, they didn't really give a fuck what I watched her, as long as I wasn't bugging them, you know? So I would go to the video store and just, around the same age, 12, 13, early 90s, I would go and just random and invite my friends and we would all watch them. And I mean, it was just, again, it was part of its time

because at that time we didn't have the internet. You know, we actually had to do stuff. For all younger folks out there listening, we had to actually put our bodies into, action go outside and play tag or you know go to the park or ride your bikes or ran these kind of movies you know and just make a make a day out of them so everything seemed like the everything seemed like an event when i was a kid nowadays everything is so accessible that it takes the joy of actually searching things out you know and so um we would rent these movies we would watch them they would

stay with us and at that time i thought it was all real like nowadays you know the guy's name is francis b gross like that's a pun right there and it's ridiculous but at that time is like you're thinking this is all real and you know they made sequels that were not as good as the first one but um yeah this this this is a this was the kind of movie that everybody talked about but but nobody sometimes nobody could find you and stuff like that so yeah i definitely grew up on these kind of movies and then there was also the other one traces of death and death traces as well no death faces was the other one yeah the one that had the death metal music that that's i think that that was traces of death yeah i think you're right

all right it was probably whenever video stores started breaking out I had first heard about it

through my buddy's uncle we were watching something and he was saying hey did you guys ever see faces of death

and we're like what's that he goes oh this videotape with real life people getting killed and all this on it

And we were like, wait, what? And it was like, yeah. And he saw it when he was overseas somewhere. He was in the military. And we're like, oh, that's cool. And he goes, yeah, man, you should guys look it out. Look for it. Okay.

So there was no blockbusters or any of that in our area. But there was this, it used to be a Wells Fargo. And they shut down and it turned into, a video store in the front and in the back they sold shoes and did hair and watch kids. I don't know. There was all kinds of shit going on. Probably selling dope and everything out the back. But anyway, and the front was real small, but they had videotapes.

They had just standard stuff. And then the course behind the curtain with the adult titles and those big giant oversized VHS boxes for you old schoolers or remember those. and faces of death was back there because I remember my cousin went in there and he said dude look and he kind of stuck it through the curtain and I went oh man and he heard the same thing here her heard it was all real so we're like oh cool so he was old enough shout out to my cousin Evans I love you and I miss you brother and he rented it for us only the first one um so we went to his house and parents were all at work and he was a cool-ass cousin that got us into everything.

Bought fucking got weed for us, bought us beer and all that, and we're just bad little hood kids. Anyway, so we're sitting there. We throw it in and we're watching it. And I couldn't tell you how often might have been 13, 12, 13. And I was watching it. And I was like, this is supposed to be real. and because all this stuff you heard on how real,

it's all real, it's all real. Same thing with that fucking bullshit cannibal Holocaust. Oh, it looks so real. And when we finally got a copy of that, I said, this ain't fucking real. Well, that was more real than this movie for a lot of reasons.

I was just like, well, I was watching this. I was like, okay. But I was like, none of it looked real. I think maybe like the news footage is,

I can't remember that. remember which one it was, but there was some news footage or something. Maybe that was real, but majority of it, like the monkey thing, the electric chair, the, the guy jumped off the, the apartment building and all that. I said, man, this is bullshit. I was, I was so disappointed. I saw this before I saw Cannibal Holocaust, and I was just so disappointed. I said, this doesn't look real. And so I was like, I just recently watched it. I hadn't seen it in years. And I was more like fast forwarding through it because I said this shit is boring and I wasn't a big fan of it in the beginning when I first seen it and then I saw the other ones after that and it was just the same

old same old stuff man I mean it was because it was hyped to us as kids it's real it's real and all of this and then when we see it I was like I mean you watch there's plenty of real stuff don't seek it out but I'm just like man this was trash I mean but I mean it was but in those days everything was sold to us there was no internet none of that so it was just like word of mouth oh this is real this is real do not see it and it was

like those things like I have to see it because you couldn't go in the block blockbuster and rent this it had to be those little gas station ones or mom and pop video they didn't even have that blockbuster are you kidding me this is not PG 13 or you know

yeah but it was I it was all it was all the forbidden fruit aspect of it, right? Because we're teenagers, adolescents. It's the same thing like with pornography, you know, it's like it wasn't easily accessible. So whenever we could sneak a tape in from somewhere, all the friends would pass it around and you had to sneak it in when your parents were asleep. Or, you know, same thing with this, same thing with these kind of movies.

Like, it was a forbidden fruit aspect to it. And again, folks, that we didn't have the internet. We couldn't type, oh, show me this. Nowadays, everything is available. So just getting a copy of it meant that you were part of a club. That means that you were one of the very few people that was actually seeing this. And again, an impressionable mind, like adolescents, that's the kind of stuff that they live for. I live for stuff like that. You know, like, well, what is it? What is it? What is it? The more they tell me no, the more I want to do it, that kind of vibe. So these kind of movies, these kind of movies, they prayed on that philosophy. They knew exactly who they were marketed towards, you know? And,

So it worked. I mean, they became a big deal in my early adolescence. Yeah, man. It was just, yeah, I like the forbidden fruit type of thing. It was just, it was oversold to me. And that's why I just, when the hype of some, like, even new movies now, oh, it's the scariest movie you ever going to see. And you see all these footage of night vision,

ah, everybody jumping and screaming and running out of the theater and throwing up. and then I go see it and I'm like what I don't know what they were watching I mean so same thing with this one not to say it doesn't have its place and video history horror history whatever you want to call it I was like cool I mean it's more

of like yeah this shit was it was overhyped but yeah like if you were one of the cool kids that had a copy of it everybody would pack your house just to see it same thing with pornographic stuff man every time where it was

It was like 20 dudes in one house. Watch it, Debbie does Dallas. Back with a hairy, back with the hairy bushes, right, Ness? It was a hairier time back then. But Nessna de Leon was one of the ones that I used to seek out back in the place. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But yeah, yeah. And Vanessa is saying it's 100% spot on.

But one of the things that I do appreciate, because this is going to be a very weird film to, like, rate. Because the film itself sucks. Like, it's really unwatchable. It's just a bunch of fake, like, bignettes of shit happening. But it's cultural impact needs to be talked about, you know. And so it's going to be a weird film to rate. But what I will say is I love the cover arts. Like that was also very, like disturbing looking.

Like the guy with the scalpel, you know, the doctor with the weird face, he had the scalpel. I think that was for part one. Right. You had the skull, the set of faces of death. So the art for the actual cover box, and they were all like that in the 80s. There was phenomenal box art during the 80s. But for these particular movies,

that's something that also stood out to me, just seeing the bar, and they were clams shout too. They were like the Disney movies. Yes, they were. So, yeah, so that was the kind of things that I remember, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, I'm looking at the cover art. right now. I mean, yeah, this looks awesome.

And you put this on the cover of a death metal album. Right. It's very punk rock. Like, that's what I love about it. Yeah. And they're all good. Like, part two, part three, part four. They've all got badass art on them. Yeah, like I would wear a t-shirt that, you know, like that, so. I would wear the t-shirt

with the original artwork. They may come back. After this new movie, you know. Steve of you're listening to a rendition of this. I'm sure he will. I know this first faces of death movie is getting the 4K treatment from vinegar syndrome. I don't know why anybody would want to say this in 4K, but okay.

Why? Go ahead, Ms. It's on YouTube, for those of you that haven't seen it. Okay. But the monkey part, it's cut. I mean, it's in it, but the part when they're... Out of all the things, that's what they decide to cut. Yeah, no shit.

It's the one thing that was the most fake. Fucking stupid. They cut the, when they're actually hitting the, the monkey with the mallet, but they show them eating it and all that. I mean, if that's a delicacy and other parts of the world,

hey, have at it, but, no, man, I'm good. I guess your dick heart I heard. Oh,

come on. That's what I, hey, that's like a rhino. I don't need monkey brains for that yet. Oh, no, turtle blood,

turtle blood. My bad is turtle blood. Close enough. see that shit was real in uh... yeah all the cost I mean

but I don't remember which one it was uh one of these faces the dead they went into a slaughterhouse that was all real sure

yeah that was in this one that was in this one yeah I think it was the first one yeah I don't I didn't anyway it was one was one of them because I know

it went into one where they were slaughtering chickens okay and when I saw that I mean I love I love chicken. Fried chicken, anything with chicken. I loved it. But I remember after I saw that, I couldn't eat chicken for a little while. I could see that. I was like, oh, my God. But I mean, I've seen animals butchered. I mean, if you don't eat meat, I get it. But growing up on, I didn't grow up on the Rez, but my family out in the Rez in Arizona, I mean, they, that was, they were farmers. So they butchered cattle. They butchered sheep and chickens and all that. and I've seen it all.

And it never really bothered me, but for some reason, watching it in one of these ones, I just could not eat chicken for a little while. It was just like, oh, I don't know, I had that image in my head and all that. So, but I just couldn't do it. But I mean, this one, it's got, it's, like I said,

it's got its part in, in history, VHS history, horror history, cinema, whatever. I don't know if these were in the theaters anywhere, But again, it was just It was over height to me So that's what I was expecting As a little young kid, I mean, do I need to see Real Life death?

No, but I mean, you're curious of it Of course It's not like the internet now And when you can, don't seek it out But you can See that shit Mm-hmm But for this one-hmm

But don't fuck up your algorithm If you seek one now, you're going to be bombarded with thousands of them so don't do that. Oh yeah, that's true. Stay away from watch the news. That's bad enough on what they show on there. That's more violent than these movies. Yeah, I tried to avoid that too.

But this one, I mean, it's got its place in history. But for me, the hype, overhyped to it and finally seeing it for the first time. I think the first time I saw it and then watching it again for this, I said I sat, through, I sat through it twice, like all the way through this last time. I was just kind of just skimming through it. Yeah, I can just like they did in the new movie. Yeah, I was just kind of skimming through it. So, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't, I only watch it again for the show.

This isn't something I would put in my library unless someone gave me, no, if someone gave me an original clamshell VHS, I'll put it with my VHS is just to have it. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't throw it in my VCR to watch it. Okay. Yeah. It ain't going to be right next to Black Christmas 2018. We know that. That's right. No.

Uh-uh. Brian and Lance, you guys haven't said much about, oh, Brian kind of did Lance. What are your thoughts about this movie? Oh, let me jump in real quick. Go ahead. I respect the legend and myth of this movie,

like you guys said, within the horror genre and VHS. But fuck this movie for its depiction. I'm a pit bull lover. I own pit. I've always owned pit bulls. I hate that entire scene

and what they were doing to those dogs. This movie's fucking garbage for this. Just for that. I get it. I get it. That's all I got to say about that. Yeah, I'll have a little bit of a different take on it than you guys

because when I was young, we loved getting our hands on these and I think we saw all of them. I was hoping this was the one that had the, it did have the one parachuter that like went straight down and landed. That was, that wasn't in this one though. No, that was later in the later one. Yeah, I kept expecting that.

That was my favorite one of all of them. But I'm sure that was totally fake, right? Like, what are the chances they're going to have you jump right over an alligator farm? That's stupid. But yeah, some of the shit in here was real. Like I was looking it up and that that parachute drop was real footage. So there was some snuff stuff in here for sure. But yeah, when I was a kid, man,

We couldn't wait to get our hands on these. Dude, we watched these over and over. The only thing I think we might have watched more than this one was Monty Python and the Holy Grail. That was when we gathered together and watched every fucking weekend and smoked and drank and just laughed along with it. But, yeah, we never could get enough of these. On the rewatch this time, come on, dude, this is trash. It's totally fake. Like Brian's saying, the real-life animal cruelty in here.

and then the fact that you got a doctor that's Dr. Gross or whatever, but it's actually the director of the movie, I think, or whatever. And like, looking at it now, it's so obviously fake in our more enlightened age. But back then, man, we ate this stuff with a spoon. We couldn't wait to get our hands on these videos and watch them all the time. So maybe I'm a sick puppy. Who knows? No, I was at that time when we were younger, like I said,

it was that forbidden fruit aspect. We wanted to see this stuff. You know, because especially as it was all word of mouth, you know, it was the old school yard just saying, oh, you have to see that. And everybody just wanted to see what the big deal was about. And like I said, it was oversold. And I felt for it, you know, to the point where I stick out the sequels, the copycats. And remember, the copycats, that was all real. The copycats took it over the line.

Really? Like the traces of the, yeah, that was all real stuff. No kidding. Okay. Yeah. But these, these were more fake artists, quote unquote, artistic. big vignettes or whatever. Sure.

I do have the Blu-ray because it does have the director's commentary, which is fascinating to listen to. So I have listened to that. But yeah, it was, I don't know. I guess as a movie, I'll give it like a one on ten.

And that's the cultural impact. I would give it seven on ten. Wow. Wow. What about you, Nez? Yeah, it'd be like a one. One? just to watch it, but as far as what it's done to us as kids to seek it out and finally see it,

I mean, just the legend of it was probably like, yeah, I'm like, I give it an eight. Okay. Yeah. It was that like, have you seen this? Have you seen this? And everybody, no, no. And then when you finally get a copy of it and you're one of the cool kids, man. Yeah, I got it.

I saw it. But it was trash. But you got to see. it because everyone's going to start when you pick your brain what happened what is it what did we see what did we miss I explained what you guys saw but it was

all bullshit and they're like what really I thought it was real and you had those I'm going no man I saw that was real I was real I was like we thought we could have sworn it was real you need to get out more than because it's not real

this is a weird night what are you giving it Brian Half a point. Okay. All right, I'll be the high man. I'll give it a two. Because it's, I'll never watch it again.

On this, on this viewing, it was like incredibly fake. But I've got to keep that memory there, man. I'm sorry. I've just got to keep that memory to pull it up to all the way up to a two. So none of us recommend this then? No,

nowadays with how cynical and James all these young kids are. They ain't going to get nothing out of this. Not a thing. They put it on their computer and type whatever, and they'll see worse shit. Well, speaking... Yeah, this movie will never hit the same as it did when we were kids. Yeah.

That's a fair statement. All right, speaking of all that video and short-term memory and all that crap, faces the death 2026, the new version. A woman employed as a website content moderator comes across this. series of violent videos reproducing death scenes from a film. Director, writer David Goldhaber, also known for how to blow up a pipeline. Like a movie or? It's a movie. I saw it. It's not bad. It's a bunch of eco-friendly kids that are blowing up an oil

pipeline to send a message to big oil. It's not too bad. The film's promotional materials have faced significant censorship. YouTube removed an early uncensored. teaser for graphic content and theater owners have reportedly refused to display certain posters because the imagery was considered too intense for public spaces. So who's going first here? I'm sure that was all part of the marketing. They know they know what's... No doubt. No doubt. I will go first because I might be the only one that liked this movie. Okay. So yeah, I mean, I thought it was pretty clever, the meta aspect of it. Because when we Remember, when we first heard about this movie being remade, we're like, what the fuck?

Like, how is this going to work? Like, are they going to, and they didn't. It's actually a very meta movie. And it's his own story, right? It's about how, like, we get consumed by having an image online, by having an identity online. And this, this serial killer, I don't think we're spoining anything by this. The serial killer kind of uses the movie faces of death as a motivation. to do what he does.

And I think that was pretty clever. I will say this. The lead actress, I was thinking about this when I was being very sexist when I was watching and very objectifying. I had a different takeaway, I think. No, I was objective, objectifying. My pig guy brain came out during this time.

Because she was very annoying at times, okay? and I was like Okay I wonder if this is I'm being authentic and honest folks So that's you know I was thinking I wonder if she was hotter

Would I have more of a tolerance For how annoying Pedro And I and I caught myself Okay I caught myself And I was like that's fucked up I shouldn't I'm serious I shouldn't be thinking about

Well to be fair I believe she plays a character That goes through that kind of thing In euphoria Oh, okay. I didn't know she was in. Yeah, she's not, she's not like the hot girl, but then she becomes the hot girl. AJ's watching, AJ's watching that show right now. The third season just dropped.

Okay. So anyway, so I was thinking about that because I was like, is she written to be this annoying? Because she was making some decisions. And I'm not going to get into spoilers yet that were pissing me off. And I was like, come on. Like, what the fuck? I thought the serial killer did a great job. I don't know where we've seen that guy before, but he was awesome.

Thanks. We're going to get into a lot of the liberties that the movie took to serve the story and spoilers. That's what really bothered me. Okay. But it kept me intrigued. It was the correct runtime. I felt like it got over with the audience. I was in a packed house.

It was a small theater, but people went to go see this movie because it was full where I was. was that. Okay. So yeah, I thought I thought the the African-American guy, her boss was a nice little comedy relief. And I think he is a comedian in like in other stuff. So he was he was okay. So yeah, I really enjoyed this movie just to kind of avoid spoilers. It really worked as a as a crime mystery, not a not so much a crime mystery, but like a crime movie, a horror movie. There was a lot of nice little elements to it. So I thought I thought and it was gory. I mean, I don't, something else as gory as they sold it, but you couldn't be. I mean, the expectations were too high when you say faces of death.

But I thought the goal was decent. Okay. So, yeah, so I really enjoyed this movie. It wasn't perfect by any means. They ain't going to get a 10 on 10 or nothing like that, but it was enjoyable. What do you guys think? Ness? What do you think?

Oh, okay, I'll go next. I also enjoyed this movie. I like the way that they set up the killer, because I thought it was going to do, they were going to go the scream way where you're not going to know who the killer is, but they kind of, you know, hopefully not a spoiler alert, but they kind of let you know kind of early who the killer is. And I like a lot of the things that it has to say about our current situation, our predicament that all our poor kids are in here with these short attention span theaters that they're flipping through over and over and over again and what that's going to do

to their brains and what that's going to do to their, um, their, you know, I don't want to go too, far into it, but it was, I thought it was a really, a really nice take, and it was a very, as, as Pedro said, very meta take on what's really going on right now. I like the fact that they, you know, that they had her working for, you know, I guess a group that they put on these TikTok videos or whatever, and she decided what made it through and what didn't make it through, and that's how she got involved in the mystery. And Pedro, I like the fact that they got kind of a plus-sized you know, not historically sexy type

girl as the main lead. I like that. I thought that was a good twist, you know? And her performance toward the end got me pretty good, but we'll talk about that in spoilers.

But I didn't always agree with what she did. I'm with you. Some really stupid fucking mistakes and, you know, and decisions and stuff like that. But yeah, no, I'm with Pedro.

I really enjoyed this movie. Brian? I pulled a lance this week. I didn't watch it. Okay. All right. It was insane everywhere. It's still going to be out there.

Yeah, but it wasn't, it was in one of the big releases, so I get it. True. It was, it was playing here. I just, it was scheduling thing, and I didn't have Disney parking lot to cross or anything. A 45 minute. That's right. 45 minutes each way, Pedro, each way. But as usual, when I miss a movie,

I'll probably end up talking about the next episode. Yeah. All right, cool. Yeah, I'd like to hear your thoughts on it, man. All right. This is the death, 2026. Yeah, I thought the same thing. Like how, when I first heard about it, and then I was like, wait, what?

Why are they remaking this? Right. And I'm like, and how are they remaking this? Maybe it'll be for the kids that, knew nothing about the original one. But then I was like, well, if they're going to do that, technology effects are a million times better. True.

True. All right, cool. I mean, I'll watch it just to see. I didn't really know much about this. I didn't see. I didn't watch the trailer. I saw the little teaser, faces of death.

And based on whatever, whatever. I was like, I was kind of like, I rolled my eyes. I was like, oh, really? And then I didn't know who was in it. I didn't know what it was about.

I went in blind. All I knew was the title. Okay. There might have been 10 of us in there. I saw it like on, well, it was actually free because I had galaxy points. But fuck,

man, they robbed me at the concession stand. Coke and popcorn. 18 bucks, you bastards. But anyway, so I sit down and I watch this, film. And man, this movie was fucking awesome.

Nice. All right. We all liked it. Good. I loved it. What's his name? Billy from Stranger Things. He was the all star in this movie. He that was him. Okay. I didn't realize that was him. Oh shit. That was him. What the fuck? Yeah. I was because I was sitting there watching and like, where have I seen this kid? Right. And his, I think what sold to me the most was his acting on because he had to act a few different ways. Yeah. True. So I really loved that. And I mean, I've only seen him in Billy

and I think he was in that warfare movie, I think. Power Rangers. Oh, Power Rangers. Yeah, sucks. We're not getting another one. Anyway. So I was- Watch out. Sorry. That Christmas movie.

Oh, wow. That's right. He was. Okay. Shit. He's a big star then. So I was like, oh, I was like, okay, cool, man. They got him to do this. movie as the movie goes on and it is bloody. I thought that was

cool. And I like the idea that he was reenacting certain scenes from from the videotape. Yep. And yeah, Pedro, you mentioned the runtime, perfect. Don't keep, there was no need to stretch this for two

hours. Hour 37, we're out. Yeah, I had a lot of really, you're going to do that? Decisions, but I get it. You're in distress and all this, but there was one scene. We get into spoilers. I was like, no, but we'll get there.

Anyway, I liked what they were trying to do. I was like, oh, okay, so this is a movie movie. So I'm like, all right, I'm here for it. And Barbie Ferreira, for you, Euphoria fans, yeah. Anyway, watch that, you haven't seen it. I was happy that she was in it. She was the main, the main girl, the main fire. final girl. I love that.

Beautiful young woman. Yes, a little bit bigger. Because with these movies, if you look back out of everything horror-wise we've gotten this year, you got the young, slim, beautiful girls. Yeah, 105-pound models. Yeah.

You got all that. I mean, you can roll into the 80s too, all of that. All of the final girls, beautiful young blonde girls or brunettes or whatever, what have you. I was like, okay, I liked what they did here. Not to say she was bad decisions in the movie, but that was her role. But I was glad that we got that.

I loved what was happening. I was kind of like lost in the beginning. Like, wait, what is this place that just monitors the internet and decides what's real and what's fake? Yeah, well, it was like TikTok, right? Yeah. I mean, even I don't think I could do that job. I mean, it's bad enough of what you see on the internet, but I don't think I can sit there and see it.

I can see that. I can see that. That stuff will stick in you. They even said it in this movie, don't watch it, man. Some of the stuff

will stick in your head. It was a part of the movie. But I loved what was happening in it. I loved how this serial killer. I mean, yeah, they don't hide who the killer is.

You know, right out. I mean, his face is on the poster. I liked how he looked, especially when he put those red contacts in. Oh,

that was creepy. Yeah. And everything about it. I just thought it was a good movie. Yeah, there was some parts. I like, eh, okay, next. But overall, I thought it was a good movie. I really enjoy it.

I want to go see this again in the theater before they yank it out. And I was shocked. I was really sitting there just when I first got sat down and it started. I was like, okay, let's see what they're going to do. Because, I mean, other than him, it took me a minute to realize who that girl was, too. So I was like, oh, okay. So, but I liked what was happening in this film. It was a good time.

It was a good popcorn movie. I mean... Yeah, popcorn movie. With lots of blood. Yeah, if you don't mind all the blood, that doesn't bother you when you're eating popcorn, check it out. Because I kept telling my buddy, I said, dude, go see faces of death. He loves seeing horror movies. He was like, no, dude, I don't want to see that.

I said, dude, it's not the old school videotape we grew up with. I said, it's this guy reenacting scenes from that movie. He went, what? I said, it's a movie movie movie. I don't know if he had seen it yet But I was when I left The theater even the guy that was Walking out

I kind of turned him what'd you think He was like oh dude that was good Because he even said the same thing He goes I didn't really care for that The original one I saw when I was a kid I was like yeah same thing So but yeah when I left the theater I was like man that was a good movie

And I don't know how to pronounce this kid's name Billy Yeah We'll just calling Billy. What's that, Brian? Daker Montgomery. There you go. There you go. He was an all-star in this movie. I thought he did a really good job.

And I hope they don't start typecasting him as the bad killer guy because we're going to get a gladys. But with this guy is what we're going to do. Because there is, well, we'll get into spoilers. But there is a lot of teases of shit that's wrong with this guy. But would they never actually tell us what's happening? There's a lot of shit we don't know about this guy. Yeah. I guess.

A lot of questions about a lot of stuff that I don't want to spoil. When the cops show up, being put on that sober white boy face, right? Entitled white boy. That's right. But that's what I liked about it. I mean, we didn't have to have a flashback on why he is the way he is. I appreciate it that there's things that you don't,

maybe it was lazy writing or maybe that was the point. We don't ever know. But there was things about this guy that we'll never. find out and I want to know like certain things you know and and uh yeah I guess I could say this because it's not really a spoiler but like he's a germaphobe like what's that about oh yeah that was weird and and they tease it and they tease it and it's like oh shit that's kind of weird um but but uh but and there's other things that I'll question during spoilers but I love that part because it keeps that mystery and and that's why going back to the gladys movie that was so fucking

cool about that character like who the fuck is this lady what what was going to on here is that really her relatives like we'll never know but now we will because they're gonna fuck it up in the unfortunately we will now but yeah but with this guy's the same thing in 2028 arthur with arthur he's got such a wacky generic name to arthur right um like like what's what's his story like you know so many questions um but he was very charismatic uh as the killer and and so yeah really good movie man really and it's got good it got good reviews so it's not just us like People really like this movie. Well, that's good to know.

That's good to know. Where do you rate it, Pedro? I'm going to go, for now, I'm going to, I also want to watch it again. I'm going to go eight on ten. Damn, all right. Yeah, I'm the same, right, eight to eight. Eight on ten? All right, I'll go seven and a half.

I'm not quite there. I don't think it's going to be on my top ten, but you never know. I'll watch it again, too. It's worth another watch. So, Brian, we want to hear your score next week, dude. or whenever you see it because we definitely think you're going to like it.

All right. It ain't that 78 greeny. Nowadays it'll be available to rent within like the next week or so. What's that? I said nowadays, especially a movie like this, which is kind of a small film,

it'll be available to rent within the next week or so. No doubt. No doubt. All right. Spoilers. What do you all have? This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right. What this guy had, there was so many conveniences. This is why it's not a perfect movie.

Yeah. There was so many conveniences to serve the plot in this movie. Okay. For example, Arthur just had all this fucking money and he had a big ass house. Like Batman. He was first way. Just to serve the purpose of having these people in his basement. Right. He was like a Mark Smith for some reason. He could shoot a rifle like at 100 yards with...

Oh, that's true. That's true. He couldn't even shoot. I mean, he did hit the YouTuber girl. He got it pretty good. Took him a few tries, right? He took a few shots, but he was also one of those killers that was always ahead of you. Like, he was always outsmarting, you like no matter. Like, like he ended up... I did like that scene where with the roommate, you know, that was a cool scene where the roommate's fighting back and what...

Oh, that's right. That was brutal, man. That was a cool thing. It was kind of sad. I felt bad for that dude. Yeah, the roommate was kind of a victim of consequences because he was actually after the girl. And then, oh, this is the one that really was very convenient.

He happened to work in a cell phone factory or cellular or whatever, so he could get everybody's information. Oh, who's this? Oh, let me look it up. Oh, there you are. That's how he was picking all his victims. I thought that was a good idea. Kind of clever.

Kind of like Robin Williams and one. hour photo. Yeah, and then exactly. And then those cops, man, you know, like the cops don't give up that easy. Why are they going to believe him and not the girl that's in distress? They're like, oh, it's your fault. Let me throw you in the because he was white.

I don't know, man. I'm sorry. But so was her. That's what I said. Well, yeah, but he was so. He was a man and she was a woman. He was real bougie. Yeah, he was a man. That's it. Let's fall back on the toxic masculinity thing. He was a white guy at a big fancy house and she

was a brown girl. there you go and and then um and then where all the neighbors at like are they all they all man that's the one that got me the most inconvenient like there's shit going on all over that fucking neighborhood and nobody comes maybe he killed them already who knows maybe if he would have had a silencer on that rifle I would have been okay but now I mean how many times did he shoot that rival and nobody stuck their head out of the somebody honks their horn I'm looking out the window if I'm hearing gunshots yeah I'm not going to look, but I'm at least

be curious, like, what, what's going on outside? Because I was like, wait, where is it? Is everybody at work? Because he was just shooting out the window of his house. And someone should have heard that big crash when that girl smashed through. That scene, I was like, what are you doing? Get out when Margot or whatever her name was, the main girl.

Right. I get it. She was trying to get evidence to, from the videos of that guy. because he was filming everything. I got it. Yeah, and she got it for a little bit. I know, but I was like, get out of there and come back

with the cops. True. Yeah, because a YouTuber girl got out and then it was like, she's not following her. Like, she's always trying to get evidence, but it's like, shave your ass first and then get the,

it was just a dumb move to serve the plot, you know? Yeah. Go ahead. So I was confused, though, where this dude was. Was he, was he HQed in New Orleans or Jacksonville?

He was in Florida. He was in Jacksonville. He was seven hours away. All right. So he went and killed somebody in New Orleans? I'm trying to get to get that straight in my mind. He found out where the main girl was. She was from Norlands.

Okay. Then he drove all the way over there. That's when he went to her apartment. Okay. Now it makes sense. All right. That was throwing me off a little bit because. And here's another thing that bothered me.

That neighborhood he was in definitely wasn't the lower ninth. If you know, New Orleans. No, no. But he would. Yeah. There's another thing that bothered me. So like, like we saw in that, uh, behind the mask, the legend of Vernie, whatever, like when he's practicing to be a serial killer. Oh, he reminded him of me of him a little bit.

Yeah. This guy had a whole get up. He had that whole hoodie with the, with the panty holes. Yep. Yep. So he parks his car about two blocks away. Right. He gets out of the car and he walks to this girl's apartment and play.

He doesn't even try to hide it. Like, isn't nobody going to be looking out the window and saying, what's wrong with this fucking guy? He has a whole thing on it. You would think so, right? Well, I took that as he's in the hood. Nobody cares. There's all kinds of crazy.

I guess. I'm going to lower my score if you aren't careful. Yeah, he's just walking around and just like nothing. They should have at least ran it to where he parks by the door and then just, he's only a couple steps away from the apartment. But he's like a block away. And he, they just, he's literally just walking.

and the camera just shows him why and I'm like this is a street in New Orleans like right isn't he worried but then again I guess we're supposed to get this idea that he probably has like a death wish anyway because I saw probably. Probably. So he doesn't give a fuck. And to drag two

bodies from that apartment all the way to his car that's right. Yeah and he had fentanyl. His weapon or choice was in a machete. It was fentanyl. How matter, huh? He had a little thing. He hit you with that.

that fentanyl and you were done. Forget about the fact that bodies are different. Women's bodies are different. Men's bodies are different. It's a different dose. She just hit you with that fentanyl. Different weight. You're done.

Yeah, but no, but it was an enjoyable movie. I really, really enjoyed it. It was, I feel like it had a lot of heart to it. Like, you could tell the people that made it really were really having a good time with it. Oh, another thing that we got to talk about is the actual kill scenes. Because what I like about it, so we haven't talked about this. So he had these mannequins. And he would recreate actual scenes from faces of death, the real movie, with the mannequins,

except one of the people, one of the victims was the real person. That was the only difference. Right. So he did have an African-American fellow be the monkey. I don't know what they, hey, that's in the movie, folks. That's not me saying it. That's what I said. That was like, really?

I told you how this guy's a schmuck, man. And then the poor guy was in the thing, the little gimmick with his neck strapped to the table. And the mannequins were kidding him in the head. He had... Arm going up and down. Yeah. He had the electric chair scene with another guy and so on and so forth. So that was pretty cool because he would film him and then get likes.

And that's where the girl, you know, the lead actress, that's where she busted him because she started getting all these videos on Twitter or wherever, TikTok. And then look, as annoying as she was, I do like that she was also grieving because one thing we didn't talk about is that she lost her sister because she was trying to do one of those TikTok dance videos with a trap. That was rough. That was fucking brutal. But that looked real. No, that looked super real, man. I would have believed that if that was in faces of death.

Let's put it that way. That was CGI right there. Yeah. But yeah, but yeah, she was trying to do a dance video with the train coming. Come on. Yeah. What I'm trying to say is that when she was being erratic towards the end, when she wasn't being logical. Well, she was on speed pills too. That's right. And she was popping those things like candy, man.

Yeah, like M&M, bag of M&M's. And so, you know what? Not in thinking about it, the writing did justify her being a little crazy and being a little illogical because she was grieving. she was popping the speed like candy and yeah yep yep so it makes sense but uh but i really like this movie quite a bit so i'm gonna revisit it nice yeah yeah i think we all are bryan we recommend it man you guys have anything else coming up on uh action returns or or any wrestling uh we just did wrestling action sorry bry i'll tell you later there's been a lot going on and i just been not in the mood yeah i got you yeah it's been

been rough, but this one, I can't go into a full discussion with you guys, with Theo on our show about this movie. Yeah, it was good that you guys were doing this. But yeah, man, this movie was awesome. And if you like these type of films, obviously you're listening to us. If you haven't seen it yet, we did spoil it.

So hopefully you stopped before you got to the spoiler section. But yeah, this movie was awesome. I loved it. It's got its issues, but overall, it was a good hour and 30-something minute movie. It was a good popcorn movie. And I want to go see it again on the big screen. I had to look it up. It is they dwindle down to two showings.

Yeah. I'll buy it when it comes out because I like this one. And I'll put it on my best of, and it probably won't come off. I like it. That's a bold statement. Very bold statement. I liked it. I liked it a lot.

Okay. I have the last few horror movies I like this one and Psycho Killer I like primate Yeah I like primate in this one a lot I'm disappointed it now I don't watch it again I know it's streaming I only just saw it the one time I'll watch it again

All right well as always we want to thank you guys For listening to another episode of The Horror Returns We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas You can reach us at ThehorrorRort Returns at gmail.com You can find us at www. www.thehorrorreturns and follow our socials from there. Next week, we go back to the original first remake

of the mummy, not the first mummy, but the first remake from 1959, as well as the newest version from Leak Cronin. So, Nez, until the horror returns again. And if you want to hear the Tom Cruise with the mummy, Brian and I will cover that on this year's East Society's 31 days of horror.

And with that, good night. Thank you.