The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #521: Fatal Attraction (1987) & Obsession (2026)

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

We get really clingy this week at The Horror Returns. Cool of the week includes THR TAKEOVER, Punisher, Mortal Kombat II, and Disney's Hollywood Studios. Trailers are Her Private Hell and Hope. The podcast spotlight shines on So, You Like Horror? And we get feedback from Pat Caruso, Kim Mixon Hill, Amy Swain, and Daniel Garcia. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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I'm Lance, and tonight's co-host are Brian and Pedro. What's going on, guys? What's so? Up, another day, another... I got the hot tag here tonight, so... I'm kind of prepared, but not really. That's all right, man. I was the last minute sub.

I forgot that Lance doesn't really understand wrestling terminology, so he wouldn't get what the hot tag is. But, yeah, it came in at the last minute here to help up my brothers, and we're going to have a good time. Nice. Yeah, I think we may have picked a good week, man. You might have shown your hand early, though, in the group chat. Yeah, I'm very excited to talk about this movie, for sure.

We'll see how it goes. see if we'll see if we'll see if we agree with you because i think we kind of know where you stand um so uh all right well i guess we'll go on cool of the week um i'm i'm still thinking but pedger you you've given me an idea i might i might so i got a couple that i really really had a good time uh one of them which is this show i was listening to the horror returns i'm gonna put over the show all right uh the last week's episode was brian annes and i mean first of all i got to say i you both have your own little charisma going there, your own little connection, because I know you guys do a lot of shows. Unfortunately, I don't have time to listen to the other shows,

but I think it's just made a fan out of me. Now I'm going to go back and listen to some of the other shows you guys do because I thought, you know, the chemistry was really cool. But man, once Nets gets going, he's the character, that guy, and that puts a smile on my face. So I share with you guys in the group, in the group chat. So he started talking about You guys were talking about Crystal Lake, which is going to, I think it's going to come on October, September, October around there. And then he was like, man, why are these guys always get upset before they haven't even seen the show and they're already hating? You've got to give it a shot. And not like a second goes by, Brian's like, oh, grown up Jason's in it.

Well, do we really need a show like that? Like, why don't even have that show? Like, it's a waste of time. And I was like, oh, that's, that's right there. That's my boy. So I just, I started laughing out loud in front of everybody. That was why I was taking a walk in the park and I don't know. It was a good show.

It was what this is a couple of things that I like about last week's show one. I know, I know, I know, I know it's not etiquette in the podcast world, right? Because I go through the same thing with my wrestling podcast. Well, we're kind of all over the place. You know, it's like a hodgepodge of like topics and you just kind of bounce around. I personally like that format. I know it's not for everybody. And I know that at times there's negative feedback.

I'm like, oh, we want you guys to stay on. track and I get it but I like that format and that's kind of the format that that was presented last week where it's like Brian and Ness will go on on a different tangent and then come back and I like that stuff and so it was a nice solid two plus hour episode you know and it just flew by so that was one of my cool the weeks it was it was cool to just you know have that and now I have like a like a huge archive to go back to because like I said I don't really have the time to listen to the other stuff um but yeah so that was cool I really enjoyed last week's episode Thank you.

Yeah, both of you guys did an amazing job. And then I have another little quick cool of the week. Just continuing my MCU retrospectives. Again, I'm still watching two to three movies a month. Hopefully, it's aligned to culminate with Secret Wars next year. So I checked out for this month, it was Captain America, the Winter Soldier, which is still a classic. It always holds up. That movie is just amazing.

Yeah, fan favorite. The editing. it's the action, the drama, the character development, everything in that movie hits. And that movie should be shown in film school of how to make a movie where you get everyone over. Everyone is more over because of that film as far as those characters. And just building for the future and all that stuff. So that was pretty cool. I also saw The Punisher One Shot, which was, I thought was very fun.

It was, I know there was that whole negative feedback of that, that unfinished CGI shot where it's like he's falling down the building and whatever. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it for what it was. And now we'll see how he comes up in the new Spider-Man movie, who he's also going to be in there. Not really connected so much to Daredevil. And I'm not, I'm thinking there's not really going to be a connection to Spider-Man. But it was nice to see the Punisher and see where he's been at since we last saw him. in Daredevil season one.

You know, he, for people that forget, he actually escaped the anti-vigilante crew. And then he just never came back. Where is this guy? Right. Where is this guy? So in this movie, we see where he's at. And they give you enough to know that it's taken in the same,

around the same time as their devil. And I guess the whole thing at the end of the movie is that, yeah, he's going back to being the Punisher. And, you know, and that's cool. And, you know, that's going to, again, it's going to lean to the Spider-Man movie. So also, my, my two cool of the weeks, you know, listening to a nice little podcast last week or, or yeah, I think I listened to it a couple days ago and also just continuing the MCU journey. Nice.

What about you guys? Brian is still how you're thinking about it. Okay, I'll go. I'll give a chance to think. I'm going to start with my not cool of the week. Uh-oh. I like to get movies recommended to me and of course while I'm posting on Instagram for our page

there's a lot of people that you know post like oh top five on in-house movies top five found footage movies top five movies on twobies and I picked one of them to watch and it was called hashtag missing couples found footage movie about a couple that goes missing

they're like a have a YouTube channel and they're filming a getaway to a cabin and spooky shit happens and it is pretty much cookie cutter by the numbers found footage I think I've seen that one and it didn't really stand out to me so I agree with you

yeah and there's basic shit and there's no conclusion to it because okay the couple goes missing and then like their friend who also conveniently is a YouTuber starts a new YouTube channel dedicated to finding what happened to his friends so we're basically watching a footage along with him and I won't spoil the end but nothing happens there's no conclusion oh boy yeah I don't I don't know I feel like these found footage films have the bubble the bubble has burst and it burst the

while back but especially that format where you're following someone and then the shit hits the fan of the end of the film and it's you get the shaky cam when they're running away it's the same shit over and over so to me when it comes to found footage my favorite subgenre is that true crime kind of like newscast kind of that's what i like they still find ways to creep us out using that format. But this whole like trying to, oh, we find a haunted house and we're going to sneak into it and we're going to record it and follow us along. That's

it's the same shit every movie. Over and over, huh? Yeah, so, I don't know. And while I was on Tooby, I checked out the Tooby original Hive. Hive? Yeah. I haven't heard of this one. The only one I recognized was the girl that played

America Chavez in the second Doctor Strange movie, the one that can open portals. Okay. Damn her career. Wait a minute. That's fucked up. Her career has devolved to like,

now you're doing Toby originals? She went from the MCU to Tooby. Teeby's had a few good TV originals. God damn you Jonathan Majors. It's all his fault. This is not a bad hobby, especially for it being on Tooby. She plays a,

I think a high school student looking for a job to save money. for tuition and she gets a job working as a babysitter in a gated community and basically the children are all weird and that sounds that sounds interesting Brian yeah if I had to compare it to something it's like a Twilight Zone episode mixed with a goose bumps episode because it is kind of like where you can let your kids watch it but you can watch it with the kids Okay Hive, huh?

Does it Does it have like a Stepford Wives Type of vibe to it at the end Or? A hive mind Okay Yeah, that was the creator of Breaking Bad, his new show

What's it was it called? He's got that funky name. Pluribus. Yeah, it's that Pluribus. Right, right, right, with the hive mind. Okay. Yeah, it's boring. Anyways. Yeah, my cool of the week

Will have to be last night I saw Mortal Kombat 2 all right one of the first huh yeah fun movie they up the action the gore's still there I didn't think I was going to like Carl Irvin as Johnny Cage but I ended up liking them by the end of the movie they brought some characters back added some new ones

and they fixed the problem my main problem with the first one by actually having a tournament in this one yeah I just didn't like like that cop out of like you said they brought all these there was this like gimmick where they just brought these people all these people back i don't know we should spoil it because i fuck it i think we're already spoiled it they brought a bunch of people back yeah they well they kind of teased that in the first movie i mean essentially anybody that wasn't that that didn't make it in the first one is in this movie pretty much also i thought it was lazy i was lazy writing how they got this guy that just

knows how to bring people from the dead back like this necromancer guy That was it. That was how they wrote, you know, which, which brings the question, are they going to do that with part three with all the ones that didn't make it in this movie? That's what I'm one. Because it seemed like that's how the movie, that's kind of like how they left it off. But I will say the big controversy of this movie, Brian, just in case I'm sure you know, is the main guy from the part one. I'm happy what happened to him So what happened to him happened to him A lot of people felt that was disrespectful to the actor Because it was in his fault There was a lot of negative feedback from the first one And who

I think it was one of the directors Or some they stated that that character Would never be mentioned again Uh oh That's not good Anyways No They'll bring them back

And the third one I don't feel guilty It's been like three weeks since that movie's out. Yeah, they'll bring them back in the third one because death is only but another realm as they put it in the movie. They set it up then. I personally like that scene

because what happens to him it tells you where the main villain is like their powers and all that. It wasn't a pointless death. Fuck it, I said it already. It wasn't a pointless death, you know? Well, we figured that's what you were talking about. it was uh it was i like the i like how they did it i thought it was very classy i thought it was um

you know he he kind of stepped up to the main villain of the movie which was awesome in the first round or whatever and uh what happened happens um and i thought it was cool it revealed a lot about the villain you know that that that the others characters need it to know so um it wasn't like this pointless like god fuck you you're nothing and just you know like like like like like For example, the way the other Johnny Cage died in Innihilation in like the first five minutes of that movie. Right. After being the main actor in the previous movie, that was a piece of shit move. Yeah.

Or Jamie Lee Curtis at the beginning of that one Halloween movie? Or they just unceremoniously killed her off in the first scene? Yeah, and she kisses Michael Myers for some reason. Didn't she ask for that? Yeah, she wanted to bold. and they let her out of her contract. But she, yeah, she kissed her brother. And then she, that was it.

Yeah, as one does, right? And then she found into a wormhole where she ends up into another movie in another universe, doing it all over again. Never ending. There are other realms than this. Death is not the end, right? That's what they say. We gave you enough time.

All right, cool of the week. So I did start the season two of Daredevil. I haven't made it to the Punisher movie yet, obviously. But I don't know. Man, first episode, I was a little bit nonplussed. I guess there was a pretty decent fight scene at the end. And then there's a knife left by someone that says, you're welcome on it.

I'm trying to think what's that all about. Okay, we won't spoil it. A lot of setup, a lot of talky-talkie in this first one. I did kind of like the one video that's, somebody, I don't know if they shanghide the BB report or whatever and kind of did it like Mr. Robot style, right, where they showed up in a kingpin mask pretending to be him. I'm curious to see where that goes. Does that continue? I think so, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that was a little interesting, but a little nonplussed. I'm ready for more action. So I'm, I'm sure you guys can can set me at ease,

right? There's more action coming in the later episodes. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of surprises, a lot of good action. Yeah. I think you enjoy it. I did like the throwback costume with the DD on it, but originally I think that was a yellow costume, but I liked that.

I did finish the TV series Outlander. I think I talked about it a little bit two weeks ago. Outlander. Outlander. Historical drama, romance. Oh, boy.

Yeah. But I liked it. I dug it, man. Well, look, hit me with the premise. So, give me the elevator pitch. The elevator pitch is just basically that you've got a woman that's from like the World War II era that's a nurse. And she goes out into the countryside with their husband in Scotland. And she touches some mystical rocks, like these giant stonehenge type formations. And something knocks her out.

She wakes up and she's like back in 1,500 Scotland. and gets this love that time cannot erase, right? With an old Scotlander. And then they find out they both have the ability to go to these stones and travel back in time. So there's a lot of back and forth. Then you get to meet their families, their offspring. This is over the series of eight books.

So I was impressed, number one, with the way that they did it with, they got every single book in, kind of Harry Potter style. You know what I mean? They didn't miss anything. They kept all the same actors. That was impressive. but I did like the ending

because the ending they killed off the main character I don't think anyone listening is going to be spoiled I'm never going to see this in my life I could already tell that right now yeah it was kind of like breaking bad where they closed it out

and like that's it so I enjoy that but I guess my cool of the week at Pedro's advice I'll pick a theme park I took AJ on Mother's Day I took her to Disney's Hollywood Studios and yeah we both did

the single rider line for Rise of the Empire, which is, which is an awesome, a rise of the resistance, which is an awesome ride. So we rode that and then we went back and it was a 15 minute wait, we got on again. We did the, we did lunch at the Hollywood Brown Derby, Pedro. I'm sure you've heard of that being an L.A. man. Yeah. And that was pretty good. Way too expensive. That was the shittiest part. All those things are expensive. Oh, man. I'm not into theme parts. I never caught the memo on them, even though I've been around my whole life here living in LA. Did you end up going to, did they have that Hollywood fan fest, Universal Studios fan fest over there?

I thought it was a big scam myself. So yeah, they're trying to replace Hollywood, uh, the horror nights because that's such a big deal. Right, right. They're trying to do other activities at night for, for the nerds, essentially. Sure. So now they, they came up with this other thing where, was fan fest i think they call it where where it was a bunch of these um uh like they had scooby-doo

they had Jurassic park like there's different different attractions they have the sure i piece for right and and i saw some videos on youtube i'm like who would go to this like it's literally you stand there and then somebody does a little performance for you with these little fake dinosaurs that run around and it's like sounds terrible next one and then they they they For the Scooby-Doo, when they have you looking, trying to solve a mystery. Like, they put, that one actually sounds like kind of fun. They put all these little clues all across the park and you're supposed to solve the mystery. But I'm like, is that going to take all night?

Like, I want to do other things. I don't want to just solve a mystery all night. Right. So it just, it just, it comes off like a big scam. I'm on to them and I'm not going to fall for it. But all the theme parks are a big scam anyway. Well, I'll stick when it comes to a holl it or when it comes to Universal Pedro and Brian, I'll stick with, I'll stick with horror nights only, I think, from here on out.

Just not as big of a universal fan. But I do love the Toy Story land that they built at Hollywood Studios. That's pretty fucking impressive, pretty immersive. So, all right, man. Right here in Lally, we have the Fast and Furious ride that's about to open up. Oh, they're going to open one. Yeah, they're going to open one here too. Like, is it a roller coaster there, Pedro?

Yeah, the roller coaster, yeah. Yeah. So, okay. It's coming. Good little cool of the weeks. All right. Moving on. Brian,

we got any horror headlines? Yeah, we got a little bit, first of all, a very young Frankenstein has officially been ordered the series by FX. A very young. It's when he's a real little kid then. How many more of these? Oh, God. We've had two of them this year.

Right? Yeah, we had the, the. Guillermo del Toro one and the Christian Bell one like within like seven months of each other pretty sure if yeah does that Christian Bell or

Christian Bell oh Christian Bale okay yes I think you said Kristen Bell no I was like I missed that there's so fucking many of them I missed that one yeah so the bride the bride and and it's like

I don't need more Frankenstein in my life I have enough you know know. And now he's going to be a young Frankenstein. A lot of Frankie, Brian. Not Frankenstein. Frankenstein. Okay, go ahead, Ryan. This is, of course, direct is going to be directed by Tyka Watiti. Okay.

Oh, God. He's hit or miss. I like what we do in the shadows. To use another wrestling term, nobody has more go away heat than Tyca Waikiki with me right now. not only did he not take accountability for the horrendous mess that was Thor Love and Thunder He never took accountability for it

He went on record saying it was We got a little carried away With the humor It wasn't what everybody wanted And that's actually one of the motivating factors Of him signing on to come back as Thor Because he want to leave it as that's going to be the final movie But Taika Waikiki just didn't

Actually he punished us Because Did he? He filmed the scene with the guy from Game of Thrones, the little person, the widget. Yeah, he filmed the scene with Therian as the big monster because in the, in the he's a big giant. Sure, sure. And then he also filmed a scene with the collector's brother.

What's his name? Yermer del Toro? No, no. Okay. Benicio. The guy from Thornezzio, the guy from Thorne. the next to the act for Ragnar. Jeff Goldblum.

Yeah, Jeff Goldblum. I'm sorry. I'm my, it's getting living the day over here. Okay. So he filmed two scenes with those two amazing actors. Right. And he,

to punish the, and he went on record as saying this now. And it's not me just, he said that he would not even put him as blue ray extras because people didn't appreciate the film. So. Oh, taking his toys and going home, huh?

So anyways, he's got to go away here with me. I feel like even, even what we do in the shadows, He kind of pushed that to the, he squeezed that, that juice for all it was worth. Did it jump the shark a little?

It jumped the shark quite a bit towards the end. So I don't know, whatever, whatever. I'm not even going to watch it because I mean, even with the weather without him, I'm burned out on this Frankenstein shit. Yeah, me too. We're going to watch it though, Pedger. Who the fuck are you bullshitting, man?

Come on. You're going to watch it. When it comes to TV, I'll stay away from shit when it comes to TV. There's a lot of TV I never, like Legion I never watched. That's X-Men shit. And I never watched it in my life.

I watched the first season. I tried the TV show. It got too dense for me. Or interview with the vampire. I've never seen that either. Yeah. Because it's like I'm not, you know, I'm cool with the movie. I don't want to.

So no, when TV shows, I do have, I do have the discipline to stay away if I'm not interested. Movies is a different story. Movies kind of call me and I have to watch them. Okay. That's fair enough. So how many episodes is the season going to be? Brian, do we know yet? hasn't said it only says who's directing and of course a thousand-year-old Max Brooks

Mel Brooks is on to produce. Ironically, I think I think this month is his 100th birthday. All shit aside. That's wild. Yeah. All yogurt, huh? Oh, yogurt. Moichens.

It's about the moichendize. Let's see. Lance, your boy, Joe Begos. That's not my boy. Is making a Zorro movie with a horror twist. Zorro the Gay Blade, or what? You guys remember that one? No.

I've heard of it, but I haven't seen it. Apparently, you have. Why don't you tell us about it? I don't remember it. I just remember it was a gay Zorro. Was that Antonio Banderas? No, I think that one was George. what's his name?

George Hamilton. George Hamilton. He was big in the 70s. I know. I know. My boomer is showing, guys. I know. Let's see.

George A. Romero's Twilight of the Dead has been resurrected with a new star. I'll see what you did there. Okay. It will be, let's see. Sorry I didn't have my notes together. It will be a cash grab is what it's going to be. Right. Taking over direction.

You would think. Yav Paz. Better known as the Paz brothers. What? What? He did the horror movie The Gullum. I don't remember that one. I don't know about any of this.

I miss that one. This all sounds fishy. The Gallum. Who's producing this? I hope it's not the guy that never wants to give anything up, but Rubenstein or whatever. Is it? Yeah, because there's...

Go ahead, Brian. Her deadline is his Magenta Light Studios. Who did Deepwater Protector in that movie, Strange Darling, I think, came out last year. Okay. The Renny Harlan Deepwater? Yeah. Oh, I like that movie a lot.

Yeah? I should have thrown that... Did you... I love that movie. That was a great shark movie. Yeah? Did you like it? And I had a...

Was it better? Was it better than the Strangers trilogy? Oh, it's a thousand times better. This was old school Reni Harlan at work. Right. This was like, yeah. And so it was just nice to see like a shark movie directed by Rennie Harlan in the year 2026 in the big screen. Okay.

I'll buy it. Oh, I'm sorry. The Paz Brothers are producing. This is going to be directed by Brad Anderson who did session nine. Oh, see, that changes things. Okay. Okay. And starring Mila Jovovich.

Uh-oh, there you go. And another zombie movie? They don't run in this one. I hope they told her that. She's getting older. She's fine with it. They're slow as molasses in these Living Dead trilogy or whatever. Yeah, if they're true to form, right?

Yeah. And if they run, I'll be pissed. Yeah, there's no tele-whet they'll do, though, right? They may change everything. They may make them like the super, fast zombies or something like that, you know? Like the Korean ones. You know, they all run over there.

They like to run double human speed. Well, I hope it's a theatrical because, yeah, I mean, I'm not too excited, but now that I know it's directing it, I'm looking forward to it. I am not seeing a lot of news happening this week. A couple of things that have to do with the movie obsession, but I'll wait until when we get the spoilers to kind of. Bring that stuff up. Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

Oh, God. I don't know, man. I could already sense what they're going to do. Why can we just let things just be? Like, why do we have to expand on shit? Like, yeah. You know? I agree.

I agree. I don't give a fuck about Anne Gladys' origin story. I don't give a fuck. Oh, I know. I like the performance when I saw it. You get a good movie and then you got to keep going back to the well, right? And yeah, when we get to obsession, we're going to talk. a little bit about where there's IP potential, because there is.

Lots, lots, lots. For to further, but it doesn't need it, but whatever. That's out of my control. That's right. When did Sanders come out last year? Do you guys remember? What month? April. April? All right.

So it's starting to feel like April and May are becoming the original horror movie months, right? The last several years, right? Yeah, this month was still, because we got, we got. That's what I'm saying. Passenger coming up. Passenger comes out tomorrow or next week? Tomorrow.

Okay. And then we have the back room. The back rooms. Yeah. Which is tomorrow as well, right? So they're going to compete with each other. The week after, I think. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. So I got to go to the theater a few times this coming weekend. Oh, definitely. Mandelorriene and Grogu, right? Yeah. It's getting horrible reviews, but I'll be. Who cares?

Your name is Petro, you gotta be there. And then, yeah, and then also, yeah, there's a couple horror movies. All right, that's the news. All right. So that means we're ready to take our little trip down to the trailer part. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's the, or Nicholas Winding Riffin of the week or whatever. What's the next one, Brian?

Oh, you want to start with that one? Sure, let's get that over with, man. You seem excited to start with that one. Sure. Herb, bet as much as I am for Begos. Listen, listen here. Or Eli Ross. He was Wendid Refing or whatever the fuck his name is.

Ful me once, shame on me, fool me twice. There you go. Or me, or whatever the fuck, because this man has done one great film and the rest of shit. He did drive. Agreed. Damn near 17 years. It's been a while. Isn't that long ago?

And he keeps 2011, whenever the fuck that, 14 years ago. Okay. And every single time he gets me, man, he's gets me. I get excited. Of course. God forgives was the damn near mess of a movie. Oh, my God. The demon hunter, whatever the fuck was whatever.

It was one of those self-filatial kind of movies. Mm-hmm. And then, and that's a new term. And a matter of fact, this fucking movie we got now, was this a sequel to the demon, whatever the fuck? Is it? Because it was all glossy. Oh, the neon demon. The neon demon.

And it was all glossy and had cute people in it. And I'm like, bro, this is just a continuation of the neon demon. Like, what the fuck? So fuck this guy. You hear him on interviews, he's full of himself. William Freakken had to school his ass because he was calling Drive a classic when it was only like two years old. Right. That's a classic interview, by the way.

If people want to see it on YouTube. Oh, I will. Now that I know it exists, I'll check that out. He was interviewing William Friedkin, and then they were talking about William Friedkin's classic movies, which obviously he's earned. You know, the French connection, the exorcist. And then he's, and then he, in passing, he's like, yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot of classic movies, the drive.

And then William Freakins is like, wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. You have to earn that. So anyways, you know, it's become a meme. People bring that interview a bunch. But yeah, he's kind of full of himself. This trailer didn't sound me on anything. I'm not going to fall for it again.

And yeah, we'll see. I'm going to watch it, but we'll see how it comes out. Did he write his own synopsis on IMDV? Did he? What does it say? A genius filmmaker delivers the movie the year? A hypnotic, unhinged druggler with an original story promising plenty of glamour, sex, and violent. I think he did

He just took that from the neon demon For what he wrote from the neon demon Like 10 years ago And he's put it on this film This tells you nothing Oh boy And the teaser tells you nothing about the movie Right

Other than Yeah man But at least somebody's in their own private hell That's what it looks like to me I mean I like Sophie Thatcher She was in the boogeyman And Companion

Was she getting Game of Thrones or am I thinking of somebody else? No, she was in... Sophie Turner. Sophie Turner. She was in yellow jackets. Okay. Well, she is in yellow jackets.

Oh, okay. That's who that was. Okay, now I get it. Yeah. Yeah, she has a good history. Yeah, she's a little... She's a little scream-cream ride. It was in your favorite movie, Lance.

Yeah? Oh, yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Oh, I'm sorry.

That's awesome. I apologize. everybody's favorite movie yeah that no that was uh but that's right she was in that movie too so yeah she's building her little resume up yeah definitely i'm i'm sure nicholas winning riff and um paid her a good amount of money to be in it don't you think because people keep giving this guy money to make movies i think he's like you bowl i think he's a new you bowl or whatever that's got a harsh he's got a harsh he didn't deserve that i fucked up the emotions got the better of me.

I don't know. I'd kind of want to. I'd rather watch his movies than. Would you? I only like Drive. I've not liked anything else. No, they're boring. And oh, God, they're just boring.

And then he did that one before Drive, the Vahala one. That's also boring. Oh, yeah. Is that with Hannibal? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Bell Hallor Rising.

Is that the one? I think that's what it's called. Yeah, that was his first movie. He doesn't speak in that movie. Oh, that. that's right, the silent man. Didn't he do it? Did Nicholas Winning Riffin completely direct

like a six episode, two hour each, some kind of fucking self-prime. Fallatial. No, no, he funded his own documentary about himself. That's how it was. It's called becoming Nicholas or

something like that. Yeah, I think that's also on prime. You guys remember when he was supposed to remakes maniac cop yeah that's right vaguely i do remember you're talking about that brain yeah William lusting liked them a lot the the original director of that movie yeah that was his pick what he only watched drive i don't know why that's such a two different kind of vibes with the two movies right all right but even like even like drive if it wasn't for the cast because

the cast is very charismatic like just just looking at it from the plot in the story, that's also another kind of slow movie. It really moves very slow. But Ryan Goslin is like charismatic as all fucking that movie. You know, you got Ron Proman being charismatic. I mean, so many great actors in that movie.

All right. Lance will be in the theaters on July 24. Not likely. No, I'm going to be watching Spider-Man during that weekend. This is up your alley, Lance. I mean, unless it's artsy. Unless you pick it.

you know and then and then there's a 50 50 shot i'll see it right he might he might he might he might tell us he has to he has to walk that 30 to 42 minute uh parking lots of theater okay take the shuttle bus lance oh oh whoa whoa whoa update update update update and it has to do have a shuttle bus now no but i do have an update on disney on disney springs because we went there before we went to uh hollywood studios on mother's day and I will tell you that the parking situation's gotten a little bit better and there is one parking lot that I've it's been there the whole fucking time but I didn't know it was there

but it literally is right at where the movie theater was I was look they have the orange the lime and the grapefruit parking lots and I was parking all the fucking way down at the grapefruit lot all this time and they have a lime minutes to go through 42 minute walk they got a lime parking garage that the minute you get out of that parking garage you're at the fucking AMC theaters. Apologies to the people.

I knew it. I knew it. That was a very unique situation. So that means you had to, every time you went to see a movie, you had to budget an hour and a half on walking alone. That's right. That's right. Damn. But not anymore because the grapefruit one is there.

No, the lime one. I was parking at the grapefruit. It's the lime one where the AMC is. And then they've got the orange. They get the orange parking lot, less we forget. And I think that's like... No excuse not to watch the Neon Demon Part 2. That's right.

That's right. July 26. Oh, and it's a dine-in theater. So I can order my French fries while I'm watching it. Let's see. Our final teaser trailer is for... Nahan Jens hope. and

he directed the whaling. Have you guys seen the whaling? Yes. When it first came out, it was, everybody was talking about it. Sounds familiar. Yeah.

This one, right? Go ahead, Brian. Real quick, according to IMDV, which they were not in the trailer, Michael Fastbender, Alicia Vikander,

and Taylor Russell are in the movie. movie. It's a decent cast. Like, you know, monster movie kind of thing. You know, this trailer didn't really reveal

as much either. It was just, sure, hard to tell. Like, they're kind of the slums. And then there's like this car that just gets flipped over and then it's just a bunch of monsters. Right.

That's it. Yeah. Let's see. Synopsis. A mysterious discovery is made on the outskirts of a remote harbor town. The residence find themselves in a desperate fight for survival against something they have never encountered before.

Well, okay, that's potential. Yeah, doesn't get too much away. I'm a sucker for the people in the small town fighting a monster and like nobody else knows about it except that little small town. You know, I like those. Sure, sure. What was the Irish one where they had to stay drunk the whole time to keep them being taken over by the monsters? You remember that one? Yeah.

Can't remember the name of it. Was it the hollow? The hollow? No. It was a seaside town. What was the hollow, Brian? The hollow was the one in the woods with the... Yeah.

Whatever they call, where they switched with kids. All this Irish folklore kind of movies, that's becoming a genre into itself. Sure it is. Sure it is. Which I like, by the way. I do like those kind of movies. I think Holcomb was kind of with those kind of that kind of vibe. so I like those movies.

Yeah. But there's so many of them now that I have a hard time remembering which one was what. Yeah, that's fair enough. Was this, was it called tentacles or something? I don't know. It was a seaside town. And they had to sit there in the bar. And the only ones who survived were the ones that stayed drunk the whole time, Pedro.

Damn, what a fantasy that is. Yeah, like the alcohol turned off the monsters, right? Like where they didn't want to come eat them or whatever if they had alcohol in their system. only in Ireland, right? That's right. Well, this one comes out. It says it comes out at the end of the... near the end of the year.

Okay. And this one's called hope, huh? Yeah. It's going to go against Dune 3 and Avengers Doomsday, so good luck on that. Yeah. Tough time to come out. Well, maybe they have hope that it'll do well. I see what you did there

It's Huh Yeah Michael Fasbender Magneto himself I have a hope that This Neon Demon movie's gonna be good Or whatever it's called I doubt it

Her private hell Is that what it's called her private hell Come on I need to pay attention Her private hell I saw Nicholas Winden Griffin And my brain turned off Even that title's pretentious.

Like her private hell. That's fucking horrible, dude. Grabbers. Grabbers. There you go. Grabbers. That's a good movie. It is good.

Somebody was yelling at us. Yes, very fun movie. All right. That's the trailers. All right. What's next? Oh, shit. Is it time for feedback already?

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Cool. Listener feedback. this week, the podcast spotlight shines on So You Like Horror. Jake Dante, I wonder if he's any relation to Joe Dante.

Let's see, Jake, Dante and guest co-host dive deep into the psychology, themes, and history of horror films. Television series and literature. It breaks away from simple jump scare reviews to offer in-depth analysis of how scary stories explore human nature, paranoia, grief, and society. Pedro, this sounds right up your alley. You might check them out.

Yeah, yeah. It sounds really good, man. I wonder if he is related to Joe Dante. You ever heard of, guys ever heard of Jake Dante? No. Okay. That's probably a gimmick name. It might be a gimmick name.

Okay. All right, so that's so you like horror. All right, Pat, more good feedback on the show, the show last week. Pat Caruso checked out Dolly before listening to newest episode of THR. I knew they had to have used a 16

millimeter camera and real film to get that look and he gives it a 7 on 10, Brian. I would agree with that. Yeah? Yeah. Is that a good one? Yeah. It's already out. Lance, check it out when you have the chance. Okay, is it on... I think it's on Shutter.

Shutter? All right, I'll check it out. You're all paying 1099 for it. Might as well as well. They went up. That's right. I'm paying for it anyway. I haven't been with Shudder in about two years. I canceled that one and a while back. Yeah, well, I think I just got charged a couple of months ago for my annual for like AMC Plus with Shudder and all that. Oh, that's right. It's cheaper that way. Yeah, it's definitely cheaper and I watch a shitload of AMC Plus stuff.

So why not? All right. Regarding the House where Evil dwells, Kim, Mix and Hills says, I freaking love this movie. I is this a blind spot for us Brian the house where evil dwells I don't think I've seen it yeah I think this is a 70s yeah huh might be like a 70s British film could be a good idea for a future movie right yeah always all right there was a poster you can't do these justice when you're reading them because there was like a a a photo of a bunch of faces for Evil Dead like Prop Faces, and it said, Evil Dead Rise Behind the Scenes. Amy Smith said, that's awesome.

It's not the same when you're not looking at it, is it? All right, regarding fatal attraction, Daniel Garcia says this movie is very good. Well, we'll talk about that later. That one guy that caused everything, the classic didn't show up for this one. Arnaz, yeah, Arnaz didn't show up. All right, Arnaz, last time we shouted out, you showed up. Check the comments for next week's listener feedback.

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featured attractions it is now time for our main attractions we can start with a 1987's fatal attraction I got this one mixed up with a Sharon Stone one where she spread her legs yeah how does that happen I don't know was

were some of the same actors in it or am I? No. Michael Douglas was in that one, right? Yeah. Okay, that's what threw me off. Okay. All right, a married man's one-night stand.

I thought it was a whole weekend. One-night stand. He just did it once. That, I don't think, it had to have gone on for at least two days. I thought so. They were at the fucking park together and everything else, right?

Michael Douglas was the go-to guy for these erotic thrillers. He was, wasn't he? And in real life, they say he was a sex addict. You heard about that? Wow. He's apparently a real-life sex addict. Had to go to rehab and everything. I thought that was his dad.

Was it okay? I might be getting them confused. Okay. Might have been both of them, who knows. All right, a merry man's one night stand comes back to haunt him when, when that lover begins to stalk him and his family. Director Adrian Lynn, also known for Jacob's Ladder in nine and a half weeks. Wow.

Yeah, yeah. He was on a roll there for a minute. Yeah, definitely on a role. Writer James Dearden, also known for a kiss before dying. No, I heard of it. No, I don't remember that one. That's right up there with the house where evil dwells. That's another blind spot.

Blind spot. All right. Glenn Close still has the knife she used in the movie hanging in her kitchen, stating it's beautiful made of wood and paper. It's a work of art. And it's nice for our guest to see it. It lets them know they can't stay forever. She probably doesn't know that she could cash out on that knife with the nerd culture.

I'm sure she could probably get about seven figures for that knife. Right. Yeah, that makes sense. I don't know. I guess this was a fan favorite. This was my first watch in a while. What did you think, Pedro? Is this an annual watch for you?

No, no, I mean, are you kidding me? Okay. I want to know if listeners, if anybody, this is an annual watch for you. No, yes. I want to know the same thing. So people get on it on the page. and answer that question. Right.

I mean, this is a movie that I grew up with because it's infamous for the bunny scene. I mean, that's what it's known for. Everybody always references that scene. But I didn't get to watch it this time, but I've seen it before. I saw it like 15 years ago. Okay.

And yeah, I mean, it's a crazy bitch movie, you know? And there's a bunch of those. And this was one of the first in that era. A whole bunch. because the early 90s had a lot of them. Like, there was a shitload of them. Right. The hand that rocks the cradle, single white female,

the aforementioned basic instinct. The crazy bitch genre was at full speed during that era. So this movie was kind of the forerunner of that, you know? And this is the kind of film that a lot of feminists were research, right? And they'll be like, it's all the man's fault. So fuck it. Like the woman's just reaction

to the oppression of the man. They're apologizing for her, huh? Is that what it is? So, but again, this is a, I don't know, it just, that's what I'm reminded of. Again, I didn't get to see it this last time, but just, it does have a place in the film, in film history, just as a cold classic for a lot of people.

I don't know if it's a yearly visit for a lot of people. As a matter of fact, there's also, I don't even know if the younger audience has even seen this movie, because this movie kind of died out with, like, our generation. They did make a series on Paramount Plus, like a year or two ago. Did they? Did they? Is it more of like a young adult social, social influence your type?

I've never seen it. Okay. I got to look this up. People of color, probably. I think what's her name? I got to look this up. Lizzie Kaplan. Add Kiki Palmer on it, from what I, not even.

Is she is Lizzie Cap, is Lizzie Kaplan Glenn Close's character? I don't know. I just, I think she's in it. I could see her playing either part, you know. I could see her as a crazy bitch or the put-upon wife, you know. Or the less crazy bitch. You only get two options in this world. Joshua Jackson.

I'm going to get into all kinds of ways today, huh? Joshua Jackson From the Mighty Ducks Yeah That Joshua Jackson Uh Amanda Pete What is this like an

Like an old folks version of fatal attraction I thought they'd be younger Amanda Pete and Joshua Jackson They're not spring chickens I figured this would be a young crowd Like you know On their

You're like maybe hassling him By changing his Hacking his Facebook account Or something like that Or Insta but I guess not so I'm guessing Lizley Kaplan

Yeah because Lizzie Kaplan is not that young either Okay Lizzie Kaplan does play Alex I'm looking at it Okay So she's the crazy one Yeah what's the point If you're gonna redo it now You think you would want a younger cast right

Yeah Maybe Dane Dehan I want No he's like in his 40s not too That's true His time came and went That's it That's right

somebody like a Sophie Thatcher could be a good Alex. Absolutely. Absolutely, yeah. Huh. Or maybe the star of the movie we're going to talk about next. That's right. Well, she's already, yeah, yeah. I want to see what she's going to do next, man.

Yeah. Wow. I think we're ready to move on, but we got to talk about this. No, you guys talk about it. I already said my piece. You know, it's a cold classic. So what do you think, Brian? Yeah, for the psychological thriller genre, crazy chick movie, this is definitely a classic, always gets brought up.

I thought the acting was good. But I'm not exactly all the way on Michael Douglas's side. Well, no, of course not. I think anybody that has, yeah, I mean, even in the next movie, the guy, I mean, we're going to talk a lot about it's not it's not as cut or dry as people want it to be yeah because this guy clearly had one night stand in mind but you were hanging out at the fucking part going to her house for dinner how let me look at michael douglas's age during this movie he brought the fucking dog with them to the park that's right the family dog to play fetch

doing the family thing with her so you're kind of fucking asking for it it sounds that way doesn't it he was 43 years old during this movie yeah that sounds about right so there was some midlife crisis stuff going on there as well right does it just be real about it and I know Pedro had his moment

during faces of death so I guess it's time for my moment yeah is Glenn Close attractive to you guys? No. Not at all. Never was. Enough to throw away your completely idealistic family.

Not at all. And his wife was hot. Yeah, his wife seemed to just spend her days putting makeup on. That was bad casting right there. Speaking of bad casting, they kept calling the child a little girl. Did that look more like a little boy to you guys? or is it just me?

It was just a haircut. Was it? Okay. Pageboy type haircut as they call it? Maybe she was going through stuff. You know, like maybe she was questioning her. Well, that happens. That happens at that age, you know?

So it's certainly possible. Of course, you got the rabbit scene, which, you know, sorry for the rabbit, but I was just like worried for the dog throughout the movie. Sure. Yeah. And of course. Thankfully, this wasn't an attempt. Italian film where that rabbit probably would have been alive when they throw them in there.

So this was a Hollywood production where there was cannibal. Canable. No heartbeat of animals in the making of this movie. But Glenn Close's character, Alex, didn't really, I mean, besides the rabbit and the picking up the child and taking the child to the amusement park, she really didn't do anything other than keep calling the house and hanging up. Well, she threw battery acid on his car or whatever, right? Yeah, I mean, that came later.

Well, okay. Yeah, fair enough. That's true. And apparently the police do not care at all in this movie. Oh, yeah, that one scene where Michael Douglas comes in there and he's saying, so hypothetically, let's say a friend of mine is being harassed by a chicky out of one-night stand with officer, hypothetically, what can that friend hypothetically do? And the cops just looking at him like,

you stupid motherfucker. I know you're talking about yourself. You cheetah, you deal with it. That's pretty much what they told him. I think the cops said, well, hypothetically, it would kind of be his fault. His problem. His cross to bear or whatever he said, right?

Have you seen this before, Lance? Yeah, I have seen it. It's been quite a while. this might be like a third watch I'm guessing What you think? Wow I mean

First of all I know it was 1987 You know like way before For example 9-11 I know I know airports and airplanes

Were a lot different Before 9-11 For example right Yes But was school security That fucking bad In 1987 In movies

Yes Uh huh Okay They couldn't even Until Well, Michael Douglas' wife, who picked up their kid? That's right. They just said somebody picked up their kid.

She's gone. She was here 10 minutes ago. I looked around and she's gone. Oh, well. Failed out an incident report, right? Nowadays, you've got to prove who you are before you pick up your own kid. Yeah. You know what?

If I'm going to be, if I'm a kid and I'm going to be kidnapped by my dad's crazy lover, and she takes me to get fucking ice cream and ride roller coasters and shit like that, I'm going to ask me kidnapped more often. It's like, you know, what the hell, man? That was the weirdest kidnapping scene ever, right? Yeah, that was, I don't know. Well, I don't think her problem necessarily was with the kid. I don't think she was ever going to hurt the kid.

She just wanted him to acknowledge the fact that she was pregnant, she was pregnant, and she's going to have the baby, and she wants him in their lives. So I don't think it was a point that she was ever going to hurt the kid. So was she pregnant? I mean, you know, it's a possibility.

I don't know if it happens that fast or you find out that fast. What was it like the next weekend? Oh, I'm pregnant. Got to marry me now. You know, there was that one scene in it. I don't know, maybe it was one of the first to do it, because we are

talking 1987 here, but there was that one scene where he comes home from work, right? You see his wife in the frame there, the picture frame, and then the camera slowly starts to pivot, and the wife says, hey, look who came to meet us, or something like that. It's like, you know it's going to be

Glenn Close, because you've seen that in so many fucking movies now, right, Pedro? Oh, of course. They're in the couch, and they're looking at pictures. Hey, I don't or they're playing with the kid. They're playing checkers with the kid. Yeah, the trope has been there for years.

But you're right. I think this was the first movies to do that. Like, hey, honey, look who's here. But, but yeah, did they ever say, like, did they ever show any kind of, like, background on the Glenn Close? Like, do they say if she had a family, she was lonely?

Like, I don't remember that. Like, or is it just like this paper thin character that's just there to, like, harassed, like, Michael Douglas and his family? Well, when he broke into her apartment, to look through her stuff. There was like a scrapbook that he glanced through real quickly

and it was too fast to even get it. Yeah. Because that could have showed, like that little scrapbook could have to show you that she's done this before many times, you know, which is also like an old trope. That's another trope, right? Or like the Black Widow trope.

Like she's got a little collection of different, little pictures of different men that she's fucked with over the years. What was her job at his job? I don't know. He was a lawyer. Wasn't she like an outside consultant or something? Something like that, right?

That they just brought in for that. Like they were at the party and Stuart Pankin is in there like hitting on her. Is that his friend? Yeah. I liked him. I like how he finally told him. He told him the truth and he was like, I don't know nothing about family law. Where am I at?

He was just like, you're fucked. But see, the thing about this movie is like the casting. Let me tell why the casting is fucked up because it hurts the entire story because let's say they would hire who was big around like Cindy Crawford. Let's say they would hire Cindy Crawford as the crazy bitch. Yeah. Then we would have been like, okay, Michael Douglas, I get it. You know, you want to get your shit wet for a night.

I look at Cindy fucking Crawford. Let's go for it. Yeah. So we're kind of rooting. We're rooting for Michael Douglas because he had the low one I stand and then he's done. but because this Glenn close, right? It's like, we're kind of thinking,

these guys are dumb fuck for like, right, like throwing away his family and all that stuff and getting into this drama. For a seven, for a six or seven. Yeah, five,

let's go five on that one. And so, yeah, so the casting was kind of off there and they fucked up the entire story in my book. But, but yeah, I mean,

at the end of the day, the question, I think these movies are made for family men, right? As they're watching this movie, they're asking them stuff, would I do this? Or have I this? Cautionary tale. Cautionary tale of the crazy bitch syndrome.

Makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. Yeah, I don't know, Brian. Anything else to add? I mean, it's pretty paint by numbers, right? I mean, it kind of is what you think it's going to be. You think his character has done this before?

because he was so quick to do it without hesitation. He really was, right? And there was no indication that there was any problem at home. No. Didn't he say something like, I forgot the line. Something like she said, are you a bad boy or something like that? And he said, do I need to be? And she said something.

And he said, I think that's going to be up to you. Or she said, are we going to be bad tonight? And he goes, that's entirely up to you. It's like throwing it on her. Yeah. I don't know. It was kind of weird. There also was no, like Pedro was saying, there was nothing on her backstory.

There was not a lot on his backstory because. Yeah, kind of a, speaking of paper thin, Patrick, it was kind of a paper thin plot. No problems at home. No problems with the wife. Loves his child. Got a good job. Right. Just immediately.

within 10 seconds he was like oh yeah let's go fuck sex addiction man it's a bitch yeah but then again he's not oh that's then again he's not doing it with anyone else it's like

this chick is the one that really caught him under her spell for some reason I guess but uh but then there's that scene where she's calling the secretary Marge

right Marge gives him this look like she knows knows what's going on when he keeps saying to tell her I'm not in and she's just like okay oh like here we go again type thing you think right that is a strong possibility yeah yeah that's a strong possibility they they do leave that kind of open-ended don't they man I'm seeing this guy this guy's filmography the director he this was his specialty because he also did an decent proposal which is a great that's right is that the one with Woody Harrelson Woody Harrelson yeah And the me more.

The more. So for the people that don't remember the story, the plot of that movie, essentially, like, a millionaire offers the me more. Like, I think it's literally a million dollars to speak with him. Robert Redford. Yeah, Robert, our boy, Robert Redford. And then the whole, the whole drama of the movie is how the couple, which is Woody Harrelson and the Me Moore, how they deal with the aftermath or, you know, of all that stuff. It's a really good movie.

Everybody should check it out. And then he did Lolita in 1997. So this guy was on a roller. Oh, okay, the remake, huh? Yeah, but yeah, and then he did flash dance. Flash dance. That's a little bit of a stretch, isn't it? Yeah.

He did that movie in 2022 with Ben Affleck and Ana de Armas. Oh, God, that was terrible. Yeah, another deep water. How many deep waters do we have? Right. About 25 of them. That was bad. That was bad.

I know Lance watched that one because he likes those kind of movies. Of course I watched it. Of course I did. It was horrible. What was better? Wether in Heights or that one? What was worse, I should say? I guess deep water?

Okay. I guess. It's tough, man. The lesser of two evils, huh? Yeah, you're making me play Would you rather here with Jeffrey Thones or something, man? It's like, would you rather, you know, stick a baseball bat up your ass or staple your eyes together to your nose? I mean, come on.

D-Wathering Heights, okay. Oh, hey. All right. Oh, or anything else, Brian? No, that's it. Pedro, do you remember enough? It's been a while. No, that's good.

I could give a rating. All right. Yeah, because of the quote-unquote legendary status of this movie, and it is watchable. It is watchable from what I remember. I'll give it a six on ten. Okay. Yeah.

I am also at a six on 10. I just remember her going a little bit more crazier because you take out the rabbit scene. She doesn't really do a whole lot. Yeah. Well, much as I'd love to get the hat trick here, I can only go five and a half. It's like a little bit better than the fence. So I guess it's better than, I guess it's more. good than bad? It's not

an annual watch. I'll put it that way. No, not should it be. It shouldn't be. Not an annual watch. All right. But if you do watch it annually, let us know and why. Yeah, absolutely. All right, moving on. Obsession from 2026.

After breaking the mysterious one-wish willow to win his crushes heart, a hopeless romantic. Who wrote this. Is that a Nicholas Wendon Reffen? Did he write this? I'm thinking, man. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

A hopeless romantic finds himself giving exactly what he asked for, but soon discovers that some desires come at a dark, sinister price. All right, director writer was Curry Barker, also known for milk and cereal.

You guys like that? A little short, milk and cereal. But you did? That was all right. Yeah. It's pretty good. He made it for like $800. Oh, wow. He's been talking a lot. He's on the horror community's bad side, though, for what he said about Texas

shainsaw, which we'll get to. Ah, yes, let's definitely get into that. And let's not forget about the news articles, Brian, if you can remember that. All right, let's see. Trivia. Was shot for under a million dollars and was picked up by Focus Features for distribution for 15 million after a bidding war. Several distributors wanted it, including A24 and neon.

Let's see. Oh, this is, now this is trivia, guys. This would win us our trivia night at the bar they go to here. The music store scenes were shot at the same music store from Wayne's World. Oh, wow. Now that's trivia. That is trivia for sure. Oh, man, obsession.

Spoiler first. Hey, Pedro, what's you got? I wonder if this guy, okay, so he sold it for $15 million to, who was it? Who did he sell it to Skydance or? Not Skydance. What was it? Focus. Focus features.

Yeah. I wonder that's it. That's what he gets or this, because this movie made a shit. It made like 17 mil or 18 mil or something like that. So the fact that it cost 800,000 and it made 18 mil, I mean, that's a big profit. But no, yeah. I mean, I spoiled my own thing on our group chat. I said, this is a 10 on 10 for me.

Now, I will say that I've only seen it once. If I see it again, I do reserve the right to lower that score. Okay, fair enough. But this film did a lot of things right. It was very engrossing. Like, you're interested in what it was never boring. It was the perfect length. I like a lot of this filmmakers, like how he set up his shots, you know,

especially with the girl where she's in the shadows sometimes. and she's coming up, you know, into the frame. Oh, man. There's other scenes that we'll talk about, the spoilers that were pretty well executed. I think the story is somewhat original. We did see an old tells from the Crip episode that was similar to this,

where the guy has a potion. And it was a little cheesy in that episode, because I think the lady follows him in the afterlife. I don't know if you've seen that episode. I don't know if I've seen that one. This guy, this guy, this guy, spoiler, he's got throws himself off a building. She really won't. She really won't leave him alone.

Right. And then she follows him. Oh, no. Building. And then he's in the afterlife. He's like, finally, she's gone. Right. Nope.

She's right behind him. And then, of course, that's how the, but, but, uh, but, uh, no, I mean, but the, the story was, yeah, it was somewhat original. I, I like, especially if we're going to talk about a lot of the new theories that have come up, right? Which, again, going back to the feminist. thing. Sure, sure. Because a lot of people are saying that the main character was in the victim, and we'll get into more of that in spoilers. Okay.

I like the performances, especially from the younger that plays. What is her name? Indie Navarette. Indian Navarette, but her the character name. Oh, Nikki. Nikki, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. Nasty Nikki or Freaky Nicky or whatever.

She doesn't like that. I was thinking of that print song. darling Nikki, but... Yeah, she doesn't like that. Well, okay. And then all four of the main characters did a great job, I thought. The friend, the other girl,

even Andy Richter who like showed up for like no reason other than just to be wacky Andy Richter in the background. He was the dad of the girl and then the owner of the music place. Yeah, I did not recognize him until I looked at up. I didn't either. He looks familiar.

Yes. Sandy Richter. I mean, I was like, oh, shit, because I grew up with that guy watching Korn O'Brien. And so everybody did a great job. Cinematography was great. Story was really good. The ending was really good. I thought the ending really just hit everything hard. It just build up, build up, build up. And so I really enjoyed every aspect of that movie. It got me thinking after the movie, which is always a plus. Oh, big time. Yeah. And so you start thinking about other little things, There's a reveal in this movie that I'll get to in spoilers where it kind of switches everything.

It's another little layer of what's really happening. And then one thing that nobody's talking about in the reviews, this is this is like a dark comedy. There's a lot of humor in this movie too. Oh, absolutely. Like I saw myself laughing. I found myself laughing more times than I would care to admit. It was so absurd.

It's what it was. It was absurd. Some of these scenes were just like, So, no, this guy, this guy hit all the park with, with his first feature, full feature film. Again, he did, you know, he is what I call post-87 baby, which means that he has this, he doesn't have the, the, the, the, the idea of how important Texas chains down massacre is to the, to the community, the horror community. Okay. And to go out there and just say, I'm going to, I think I'm going to do a better job or, you know, or, or I'm going to take it a different direction. Oh yeah. That could

It's already kind of rubbing people the wrong way. Because this movie got him that gig. That's his next movie. He's going to remake that movie. He filmed another movie. Oh, okay. And that one is a part of it. Well, I'll talk about that, spoilers. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool.

Okay. And so, and then one last thing I'll say before we get into spoilers and again, you guys' opinion, there is a lot of opportunity, even though I don't like this shit, but I know it's coming. There is a lot of opportunity of, like, franchising this kind of film with different stories. Yes, you could do like this. This could be like the next final destination, right?

Yes, yes. And that was set up with everything. Yeah, a lot of tropes, a lot of, you know, which we'll get into. And spoilers. So yes. So this is an amazing film. Again, only seen it once. Maybe I am going to try to see it again in theaters before they take it out of movies.

Okay. And then one last thing. I mean, I don't know. I'm really enjoying, and I started noticing this with Michael. People are coming back to the movie theaters. I don't know if you guys have noticed that. Like, at least in my area, like, I'm starting to see that there's more and more people showing up to the movies again. And I think that's because we've gotten quality movies. That's one thing. But also, it's nice to see, you know, because over the last five, six years, I mean, I got tired of sitting by myself in the movie theater, you know? So this one had a pretty decent house.

Right. You could have taken your pants off like the black son it used to do. Yeah, or me or two people, and then the drunk guy of the story I told on this show. Exactly. Yeah, I can't forget that one. This was pretty packed. Faces of Death was packed. Yeah, I'm seeing more and more films where they're starting to draw an audience again.

So that's good. And then I think the summer season where it's like a great movie every week, it seems like, hopefully business picks up. So it was nice to see that as well. So I'll leave it to you guys. What do you guys think? I thought this movie was fantastic. I thought the actors knocked it out the park. The actress that played Nikki was fantastic.

Just not only in her acting, but like her physical acting, like her facial acting and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. And I thought the guy that played Bear did a fantastic job. and I agree with Pedro that this was darkly comedic and the movie just got darker and darker and that end was super dark

we'll talk about that and I kind I kind of want to see where this goes from here do you? You want to see a whole franchise? Not a whole franchise but well that's what we're going to get

so it's not like we have any choice. You think so? Yeah, yeah, I think so. They're already talking about it. Are they? Yeah, well. Yeah, I went to see it at 11.30 in the morning in fucking Melbourne, Florida, and there were a lot of people in the theater. So that lends a lot of credence to what you just said, Pedro.

Yeah. I don't want to get into spoilers, but yeah. All right. Yeah. Well, I mean, we can talk back and forth a little bit, you know, if we, you know, something gets triggered. and like a memory that's non-spoiler or something like that. But like when I got into the theater, first of all, fucking Pedro, you do this to me every time, dude. I was so worried you had oversole me.

Because we're over here, I haven't even seen the movie yet. Pedro's throwing out his score in the group. And I'm like, God damn it, dude. I'm going to be expecting it to be the best thing ever. So sometimes maybe I go in. No, I mean, we could have different opinions. We can have different opinions. Right.

That's true. That's true. That's the bottom. line and God knows we have before, am I right? Yes, but at the same time, I think whenever we, whenever we, uh, I think we're more, uh, instinct than we're not when you think, when you think about it. Because I was thinking about this today. Yeah, a lot of times.

When you've told me you've liked the movie, I like it, and then, you know, not all the time, but a lot of the time. No, not always. Not always. Not always. I was just, you know, I was hoping that it wasn't going to be overblown when I went in, right? So like as soon as the movie started And that score kicked in

Because that's what really got me in this movie Not just the visuals And some of those great camera angles Like that Oh we're gonna talk about the score Oh dude absolutely Well like the camera angles Alright like so like that 340

I'll just call it the 345 AM scene So we don't spoil anything But you're right dude That one thing when you see something And then all of a sudden you realize Something was in the corner that whole time Yeah That was just

fucking genius, man. But my God, let's talk about the score. What did you guys think about that? Like all the different tempo changes and loud noises. And then you'd have like that that mellow, you know, cheesy 70s or 80s romance music on the radio. Right. No, I forgot to bring it up. The score was phenomenal.

And again, the thing that people forget is that movies, right, the films themselves, is supposed to trigger all of our senses, right? it's supposed to trigger our sight or sound, everything, a lot of the way we feel. And I like when filmmakers do that because that's the whole point of going to the theater, is that you're really not going to get that if you're seeing it at your house. It's because the dynamics are not right for it. But when you're in a movie theater, you get all that little stuff. And so being there and getting hit with that soundtrack, the score, it was amazing.

I mean, it was just another layer to how great this film was. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, real immersive, really. real immersive. It was just like lots of... This movie just kind of came at me in waves too. And like, I kind of knew where it was going. And I do like the way that he did the trailers

because you had the one that was a scene in the car in the first part of the movie. And then the second like little teaser trailer, he did a scene, but it was from the second part of the movie or maybe it was the other way around. But I thought it was kind of cool the way they did that. And he was like, it was the same camera angle. He was in the same car.

and he was kind of like in the same position. But one was the before and one was the after. So I thought that was interesting. But yeah, let's talk about this actress. I don't know, you know, what else she's going to do. I don't know if she's really done anything before this. But as Brian was saying, it's not, it wasn't just like, you know, the way she would act and the way she presented the dialogue

and that really, really, you know, creepy screaming and stuff like that. But, dude, those facial features, you would swear to. God, that like she was literally super happy one second, depressed the next, and just fucking ready to kill somebody. And this was all like within a single, you know, 10 second phase, like just from her facial expressions. So that takes talent. No, yes. And I mean, the restaurant scene is the one that I remember as well.

Like, that was the crazy scene, too. There's a lot of crazy scenes in this movie. The one for me. was the quote-unquote boys only night. Oh, yeah. Now, there is one scene that we'll talk about a spoiler that's the craziest of the mom. Okay. How could I, I would say that's the van scene.

Let me just go ahead and say it like that. The van scene, huh? Okay. All right. But I'll say it in spoilers. That one was nuts. Yeah? Yeah.

Man, yeah, this was something else, man. This was a treat. this was a treat because I was really really worried that I was going to go in and it wasn't going to live up to the I call it the hype like I I go way out of my way not to watch any of these YouTube videos or

you know too many trailers or read any critiques I stay away from rotten tomatoes and all that until I've seen the movie we're going to talk about but you can't escape Pedro I got really excited and it's great talk I can tell when you're excited well you were like that you were exactly that way

about sinners man that's right i remember that yeah but uh yeah this movie was was awesome again yeah gotta check it out again it might it might it might there is one thing that annoyed me which i'll get to in spoiler so that might bring it out to a nine point yeah i think i think i think i think though for the most part that this was this was probably about as tight storytelling as you can get right like there was almost nothing wasted and there were almost no loose ends would you agree i mean i'm sure if we think about it just because of the nature of the story story we could find loose sense, but that's, come on, this is a movie.

We have to, they introduce us to the universe of that movie. Just let's just play along, you know, but, but, uh, but there is, no, there is something that I was, it was starting to get great on me a little bit. But other than that, this is a, like, I was an amazing, perfect movie in my eyes. Scores and spoilers? Yes. I'm, so for now, because I'm, I'm about to talk about that right now, I'm going 9.5 on 10. Yeah.

Okay. 9.5 then. All right. I am with Pedro, 9.5. Wow. Okay. Yeah, I'll go 9 on 10 at this point. I do really want to give it a rewatch. I wish I had a chance to see it again before we had talked tonight

because there's a couple of things I want to pay a little more attention to. But you know what? Fuck it. I'll go 9.5. I'll join the Boys Club. We'll get one hat trick. We'll get one hat trick tonight. 9.5.

God, yeah, this is End of the Spider-Verse again. territory, huh? It's been a while since we all agreed this high. No, man, I think for sinners, we all agree, too. Pretty high. I think sinners, we all gave it a 10. Yeah, sinners got multiple tens. Okay. All right,

well, so far this is our centers this year, so let's see if anything can topple it. I'm real excited about that back rooms, like the more I'm thinking about it. Yeah, and passenger and backrooms are two big ones that are coming up the next couple weeks. Yeah, boom, boom, boom. All right,

Spoilers? This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Yes.

So I'll start first. I did think that, I don't know, even though the movie was tight and it was long at all, it was like an hour in 40, 50. There came a point where we, we started to see the same. shit over and over in the middle of the movie.

Like I felt like we we started okay we get it she's she's obsessed She's doing this and that and this because to me okay I feel like if any any guy that was in that scenario Most guys because some guys are fucking dumb but most guys okay they would have they would have reacted to what they were seeing In a way to where they would have looked for outside resources to deal with this and it seems like He just it seems like he just kept on putting up with it for the sake of the movie for the sake of, you know, you, what are you going to do? We won't have no movie if you don't put up with it. Therefore, just put up with it. I think it went a couple of things too long on that, like in the middle of it. Because it seems like we got like two or three scenes where it was

the same information over and over. It was just staged differently, which is cool. But still, it was like, I was starting to get tired of like, okay, now let's go to the next phase of this movie. Like, we get it. She's obsessed. What comes next? You know? So that, that kind of, I was starting to get a little annoyed by that. But other than that, I mean, this was an amazing film. I really enjoyed how like, again, I'll talk about the, to me, where the movie switch. The movie switch where he calls the thing, right, the magic thing, he calls the number. Oh, my God, that was fucking hilarious. Wait, the buildup to that was great too because she would have these.

She is essentially playing dual roles. Yes. He's playing regular Nikki and obsessed Nikki. And then when we get to the part Pedro's talking about, I was like, wow. And to me, that's when Bear starts becoming the villain. Now, he's not there yet. He will be later on. But that's where he starts to become the villain of the movie because at that point, he has information about why she's acting this way.

And he has the power to break it. But his selfishness, obviously his selfishness would not allow him to do that. So by that point, he's no longer a victim. He's a captive, right? he's oppressing this woman. Because, and it's cool because in the rewatchability aspect of that, you go back and watch and you could actually see when, like, Nikki's asking for help in the earlier scenes before we get that part of the story, which is cool.

Again, we want rewatchability in these films. So, so the first clue is that, yeah, he calls that number and then the guy who sounds like a, this is where it's also very creepy because the guy on the other line is very matter of fact about everything. Yeah, he is. It's kind of like he's bored to be there. It's played by the director. Is it?

No shit. Okay. He's like a hippie-sounding guy. Like, yeah, dude. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And to me, and to me, like, that's where the universe expands, right?

That's where the universe expands, because now you're thinking, who is this guy? What is this thing? Sure. So many questions are like, like, what, and that's what I said earlier. What other stories has this fucking guy on the other line gone through to where he's like sold this sentence aside? by this, he's just a matter of fact about it. Even the

shop he bought the one wish Willow had when he goes back and that guy's there, he was just basically like which didn't work out the way he thought it was. Right. I love that scene. I love that scene.

The quote-un-co, go ahead, no, I just love the way that they misdirected you there like where he went in and you thought one thing was going to happen because he's like, holy shit, where did the one wish Willows go? And the guy who was, what are you talking about? I'm just fucking with you, man. They're right here.

They're right there. And then also that was kind of like the Tony Todd of the movie, right? So if they ever decide to franchise this fucking movie, every movie, the guy's going to walk into the same shop with the same guy who's going to give a little exposition and then go on your way. So that guy might have hit the lottery with this movie. Surfer dude, Tony Todd, huh? Yeah, he's about to be hired for a bunch of these little minor movies

that they're going to start making. Right. But yeah, so that so that so that was cool. But then the real turn, right? The real turn came later in the film where like, okay. The possess Nikki's asleep and the real Nikki wakes up. Oh, wow.

She asks him to kill her because that I guess she senses that's the only way out of this fucking mess. And then he's like, he, that's when he tells her like, why is it so bad to be in love with me or something like that? And he walks away. He doesn't do that. So at that point, he's really holding her captive because. Because he doesn't even have to hurt himself at that point. Originally, he thought he had to hurt himself, right, kill himself to in order to free her. But once she gives him the option of, like, kill her, he doesn't want to do it either.

He's like, no, I'd rather live this quote-unquote nightmare I'm living with you than set you free. So that's where it kind of turns. Oh, that's a new angle. Okay. I see what you're saying. All of a sudden it becomes more of like she's the victim and she's been the victim this entire. entire time. Sure. So that was that, you know, again, and that's all happening at the end of the movie. So, so not only have you already watched this great film, all of a sudden, this guy's giving

you more things to think about on the way out because this is towards the end. And yeah, so that kind of stayed with me. And then I'll say one more thing, and then I'll let you guys talk about your favorite spoilers or whatnot. Obviously, what I was talking about the van scene is when the friends talk, they're talking to each other. And then she just comes and rams that girl's head on the, you know, on the steering wheel. Well, she puts that brick on the steering wheel. That's right. And then she's a, pop, pap, pap, and it goes on forever, too. It just goes on forever, forever, forever. Yeah, so those were kind of like the scenes that left an impression on me.

And of course, there's the one where she waits from the whole eight-hour shift, and she soils herself. And so many different, like, this girl had so much range for different performances throughout the entire movie. It was amazing. Yeah, no kidding. They were all good, man. What do you guys think? That's now what I was talking about words. There was also the scene where he found out she cooked his dead cat and put it in his lunch.

That's right. Yes. I know. I wonder there's something more to that. I wonder there's something more to that because she was obsessed with this fucking cat. Oh, yeah. She made the memorial. And then she fed it to him in that sandwich.

And then she, that was another scene. But yeah, there was like three times where that cat kept on coming up. Sure. Sure. And then of course That was crazy when he Was basically like I need to get out of here I'm going to work and then he walked out

And the entire door was duct tape That's right That was weird That reminded me of speaking to William Friedkin That reminded of that movie Bug You guys remember that one Of course I remember that one That's a weird ass movie

But the part that sticks with me is the end Right Yes When he decided to kill himself Yes. With the pills, yeah. He took the pills. Then he decided I don't want to die

and he tries to throw him up but then something happens. Yeah. He stops himself. And then he realized Nikki made a wish for him to be in love with her. Which Nikki though, right?

I mean, I guess the evil one, right? Was it like a demon? I don't know. So many of the questions, right? Okay, so to me that's the creep factor. of this movie. Uh-huh. There's so many unanswered questions.

This is where they're going to fuck it up because they're going to give us the answers in later film, which is fucking stupid. Whether we want to or not. But how many times they show up in AI. He was on that phone call with the customer service guy when he was like, you want to talk to Nikki. And then she was screaming in the background. That was creepy.

Yes. Right. Right. That was a great scene, too. Yeah. But I like how we're left with all these questions. Like, what the fuck is this fucking toy? Like, whose control is it?

the devil? Like, what's going on here? And I would just like to be left with those questions for the rest of my life. I don't need answers to this shit. I would too. I hope this is it, really, in a way. No, it's not. They've already... The fate of Nikki is mentioned in an Easter egg

in his next movie. If you guys want to know. What? Yeah, because he's got another movie coming out. His next movie. His next movie. No, he's already filmed his next movie, which is titled Anything But Ghosts. And it stars

Aaron Paul Oh wow Bryce Dallas Howard And Violet McGraw Okay Oh this dude's moving up in the world Fast In a background scene of a TV

It mentions That a female suspect Has been arrested In a triple homicide So As would make sense Yeah That's her fate

Yeah Yeah you knew It wasn't gonna be a happy ending For her Just because there was so many No matter what Yeah And she was responsible

So she was killing all these, you know, she killed all the friends, you know, the little friend zone thing or a friend circle, I should say. Right. But yeah, so I knew it would no matter what it was, it wasn't a happy ending for her. But at least she was free of whatever was the demon or whatever, even though she's probably going to spend the rest of her life in prison. Yeah. Another thing that I really like about this film was like the first 15 minutes of it where it was just like almost like a rom-com kind of thing where like this guy has a crush on this girl. Right. the best friend is trying to encourage him.

Like, go up to her, let her know this, this, and this. And they have a pretty sweet little conversation right before he makes the wish. You know, they have like a nice little conversation about their futures and what they mean to each other. And then you could see how much of a coward bear is because she points, she asked them, right? She's like, do you like me? I know. What a pussy. What a pussy that guy.

And then, but what I like, this is a cool shot there where he walks. into like this regular niki walks into her house right and then they they stay on the same shot and then he makes the wish and then like in a silhouette like she comes back out that was cool because she's standing there in the doorway and he's like what the fuck yeah because it was also her like acting differently with her body very much so yeah you know it was like okay she walked like regular niki which is different than like possess nicky and it was just on one kind of one shot, you know? And that was a cool shot too. I love that. But yeah, just the first 15 minutes, like, it's one of those things with like those Richard Linglater movies where everybody just

hanging out. Like I could see myself watching an entire movie of those four just kind of hanging out and trying to like, you may give it. Build the courage to talk to this girl. But you never, right? Right. But yeah, so I like that as well. And obviously a big part of this movie what happened in that in that little party that the friend threw, the, the boys night out part party. There's a huge whole thing right there. A lot of people, that was the comedic scene because a lot of people in the theater laugh where she kind of scoots that girl so that she could get the kiss instead of the girl. And then she puckers his chair back. Yeah. So a lot of people were laughing at that scene, which was pretty funny. Oh, there was a lot of nervous laughter in my theater,

especially from like these younger college age girls that were sitting a couple rows back. You know, yeah, that's very good, you know. Yes. So really good film. Really, really, really. really good film. What did you guys think about the background of Bear? Like how he had that house? Obviously he inherited from somebody like maybe a grandmother. Yeah, I think his mother. Is that what it was? I think they said he, she passed and she left in the house. And apparently a shitload of oxy in the medicine cabinet too, huh? Yeah, they make it even even that like the way he films Bear in the first two, three minutes. into the movie, you're led to believe that he doesn't really have it together either.

Like there's a lot of like, there's like the sense of like depression around him. Then he gets home to the dead cat. But even his reaction to the dead cat, there's a lot of like just not really reacting to it in the moment. He suppresses it. And then later on he just starts bawling because he, because he's a lot here. When he first saw that. Yeah.

And then he starts bawling in his own bedroom later on. Right. It's just, it's very off putting like his introduction, which I think, I think it's, that was the point to that, right? Because ultimately he was going to go through all this and he wasn't exactly innocent in all that. So I thought that was also very well done because there's very little dialogue to tell you all this.

He's doing it all through visuals, you know? So that's another cool part of the movie. Just the introduction of bear. What's that condition when people like have depression and they don't show catatonia? No, catatonic is where you stay frozen. where you don't move. Okay.

Yeah, yeah, catatonic is when you don't move. But there is another fancy word and escapes me at the moment where you can't feel joy. And it's a form of depression. And that, yeah, that is something that kind of like you could see with that character. Yeah. Huh. Okay. So in a sense, it almost seems like he was trying to use the whole drama with Nikki as his escape from whatever he wasn't happy with in his own life.

You know, so that that whole situation. situation with Nikki kind of brought on purpose. Even even being in that, in that he, he didn't have the courage to, to ask her out or whatever. Even being in that scenario, it still brought him some sort of purpose, you know, and, and so I think that's why even after he found out he could, he could help her, he just wouldn't do it because if he did that, then what's, he's going to go back to that life he had. And he didn't really want, you know, he didn't want that. So I guess some selfishness. There's a lot to this movie. Some selfishness, some loneliness, some depression. And, and, and some depression. One of the things that I like about these kind of movies and any kind of movie is that when people have different interpretations of what happened.

But we all have the same information that we saw, but we have different interpretations. I think those are some of the best movies, you know? Yeah, I love it. I love it. I saw Mother and loved it and gave it a 10-on-10 before I even really went back and realized that it was like parts of the Bible that were being acted out of the movies. So there's like so many layers in these good movies. The Lighthouse is another one. that's like that. A lot of people have their own conclusions

as to what was really happening. Right. Which is, I like when, because it has that rewatchability. You could see it somebody's other way. You could see it from your perspective. So this movie's like that too. Yeah. All right. Yeah, I think we covered a lot, right? Yeah, yeah. People need to go watch it.

Oh, yeah, far and away. We, obviously, we all recommend this one. Fuck the Mandalorian and Groku. You're watching Disney Plus. You go watch this again. It was in like two weeks. Go watch this one again. That's right. All right. Well, Pedro, thanks for stopping by, man.

What are we doing again? I think you're going to be on with us when... A maniac cop. I'm looking forward to that. Maniac Cup. There you go. And then there's another one. I forget, but I'll be back in June.

All right, good deal, man. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can reach us at Thehorror Returns at gmail.com or just simply go to thehorrorreturns.com. Follow our socials from there. Catch up on all the episodes. Pedro can go back and listen to all the wrestling returns from day one. Oh, I have a whole shitload of stuff waiting for me.

It's all right there, baby. Oh, man, next week we're going to check out Passenger and California, the Brad Pitt classic. I had a wild hair to watch this movie a couple of weeks ago, Brian, like out of nowhere, because I hadn't seen it in a while. So I think it has to do with the Brad Pitt, what do you call it, not resurrection, but what he's been going through since once upon a time in Renaissance. Renaissance, thank you. Brad Pitt Renaissance.

Yeah, and that was a movie, that was on the cusp of him, of him hitting it big. He was almost there, not quite. Almost. And I think David Duchofney is also in that movie, if I remember correct. David DeCovny, yeah, and... Julia Lewis. Yeah, and also one of the characters from, I think, Star Trek Deep Space Nine. Yeah, the one that plays David DeCovney's girlfriend.

That's right, that's right. Yeah, so, yeah, it's a good movie. I have it in my collection. I just haven't seen it in years, but I remember it was a great movie when I first saw it many years ago. I am really excited to check it out again, and Passengers going to be interesting. So, Brian, until the horror returns again... Good. Good night.