The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #522: Kalifornia (1993) & Passenger (2026)

Episode Date: May 30, 2026

HAPPY 10TH ANNIVERSARY!!! It's road trip week at THR. Cool of the week includes Cyberpunk, Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed, and Mother Mary. Trailer is Victorian Psycho. We shine the podcast spotlight on Earth Station Boo. And we get feedback from Penelope Courtney, Pat Caruso, John McAuley, Burley Thomas, and Dave Duncan. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everybody, to the horror returns.

I'm Lance, and tonight's co-hosts, we've got Philip. What's up? Philip? I'm back. How's going? Had a little hiatus. Doing pretty good. And we got Brian.

What's up, Sir Brian? So, everybody's back together finally. I know. We've got the band back together, guys. I can now finally say happy 10th anniversary for our show. Now that we're all together. Are you kidding me? I don't even realize that.

Ten years? Wow. Ten years. That's humbling. That is truly humbling, man. I don't know what to say. And anybody listening, thanks for hanging around with this this long. Yeah, no kidding.

That's incredible. Absolutely. I don't know why you're here, but I appreciate it. All right, cool. So wiping the tears from my eyes and cool of the week. Who's going first? Philip, you've been away for a while. What's you got?

You got to have at least the cool of the week, right? I'll jump in. Okay, so I don't know that I've watched much or anything that I can pop off the top of my head right now. But I have been playing the hell out of Cyberpunk. And it's a pretty badass game. I heard it really sucked when it first came out, but I think it's just because it was buggy. With Keanu? Yeah.

Keanu is in like the whole thing. He's like your buddy. He's stuck in your head the whole time. Well, not the whole thing. But he pops up about, you know, 10% of the way through, and then he's there for the rest of the game. And we apparently have a farm now. My daughter brought home some ducks and chickens and shit and a goose who just shit in my lap. Here he is.

This is peacemakers. They all have superhero names. So it's exciting. We've got a farm in my kitchen. You need to get an eagle so you can have eagle-y. Oh, that'd be awesome. Where are you going, kid? And that's about all I got, man.

Yeah? Yeah. Cyberpunk, huh? It's cool. I like it. It's been, it's engulfed my whole life in the past couple of weeks. All right. Brian, can I go next?

Sure. All right. You guys ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, watch the movie that you had no idea what it was, but like it was all of a sudden on the feeds of your rented movies, if you

know what I mean? And you're like, what the fuck is this? All the time. You ever heard of a movie? I'm sure you haven't. He has ever heard of a movie called Mother Mary? With Anne Hathaway?

Yes. I'm almost embarrassed to say this. Yes, Brian. Isn't it like a Lady Gaga, rip-off, horror, thriller? You know what? That's what I thought. I thought, okay, this is just a pop star,

stupid fucking movie. I'm going to have to sit this for two hours. It's a Lady Gaga rip-off, right? Like it's a chick that's a superstar, and she's like super, super, all this fashion in her show and like girl power and I thought

oh, this is going to be horrible. Right, Brian? Is that the impression you got? Oh, I didn't watch it. Dude, I was not looking forward to this at all. But something happened. This movie got about 15, 20 minutes in and it's about a two-hour movie.

And it's, all right, so I'll make it even worse. Long and dance happened. song and dance happened which made me super gleeful but about 20 minutes in I'm like oh my God it's literally a movie about a

superstar prima donna lady Gaga type and her costume designer like fuck what did I get myself into can I make it through this

about as chick flick as chick flick gets About as chick flick as chick flick gets until 45 minutes into the movie. And then all of a sudden you've got fucking witches with candles, you've got ghosts, you've got demons, you've got... And it's all... I don't know if it was actually happening or it was just like in their minds. But this...

I don't know if it was just the way that the graphics were, the way that the set design was and the music that was behind it. so powerful and pumping. But all of a sudden, I'm like, this is a fucking horror movie. And it was absolutely amazing. And I'm like, holy shit, I'm actually getting a

fucking chill from watching this. It was like, yeah, it's super creepy. And at the end of the day, it was basically about two chicks that had a beef against each other. Like, one of them kind of, she was pissed off because she kind of made the other, right, by designing her costumes and all this.

And they were getting pissed off. and then they sat down and all of a sudden ghost started showing up and they were having flashbacks to all these fucking wicking things that were going on with other people and this was a pretty cool movie i was i was super amazed i was not expecting a good film at all and the music didn't hurt i don't know if it was really her singing but it was pretty good music man it was and you know i love musicals so Anne Hathaway, is that who was singing? Yeah, Anne Hathaway. I don't know if it was really her vocals or somebody else, you know, chiming in and she was, you know,

doing the old milly-vinilly there, but... I could be mistaken, but I think she actually does sing. You know what, that would make it even better. She's a multifaceted actress. Have you ever seen Havoc? No. Well, what's that?

I haven't seen it. She has got some risk gay scenes in that one. Okay. Right after her Princess Diaries period. She decided to go bad girl. Well, she was bad girl in this one, and I like that. I like it.

Yeah. I bought into this movie, guys. I was not expecting much. And I don't know if it was just the way they built the atmosphere and mixed the music in with it. but like I was super creeped out. There were genuinely some scenes in here that I was getting goosebumps

because it was so weird and just fucking freaky. So I don't know. If you got an hour and a half, hour and 45 to kill, you can do worse than checking out Mother Mary. So I don't know, man.

I was going to bring up a Stephen King book I'm reading, but I'll probably save that for next week. So I got to go with Mother Mary. Big surprise. Surprise of the week. Well, I genuinely creepy movies, a lot of fun. Oh, I do have another one. Fucking all the UFO disclosure stuff that's going on.

Yes, tell us about that. Telling you, some big stuff is coming out. I don't, I don't, so far it's more of the same stuff. But there's like hours and hours of like IR footage or a fleer camera footage from military aircraft stuff. some of it's bullshit some of it's there's a like a cross video they keep showing on the news and that's very obviously just a flare

and some stuff that may be birds or balloons or something but some of it's real and I think they're leading up it's supposed to be a progressive dump of information and I'm hoping that this Disclosure Day movie coming out has something to do with it

I think they're going to show some cool footage there Are you guys interested in that movie? Hell yeah. Trailers look kind of boring. Really? I know, but I think it's, I think some of it might be real footage. I'm not sure what's going on.

I haven't really heard a ton about it. I'm just excited. The only good thing I've heard is nothing out of any of the trailers or promotional stuff that's been shown has anything from the third act. Yeah. Yeah, you mentioned.

I've seen the alien face. Yeah, the alien face looks cool. And there's a scene that appears to show Jackie Gleason and Richard Nixon. And that's a famous story. Richard Nixon apparently showed Jackie Gleason some aliens. And that's the last president that they actually told about it

because of that. I think I heard about that. Yeah. Jackie Gleason went and built a house in New York that's shaped like a UFO. I'm telling you guys, this shit is real. I don't know about the bodies or the aliens or whatever, but we'll see.

There's something going on. I think we're going to find out a lot. That's what I got. Brian, what you got? On that note, Brian. You see, I don't think I really watched anything new. I got one TV show I started. It's on Apple TV Plus.

It's called Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed. Okay. starring She-Hulk. Oh, She-Hulk. Okay. I saw that, but I thought AJ might not want me to watch it, Brian. It is a whodunit mystery crime comedy. I'll give you the basic premise without really spoiling anything.

I'm two episodes in. I think three are out right now. She is a divorce, single mom, just moved in her own place. and she's lonely, so she starts doing like those, what do you call them, like, Cam dating things? Like, only fans? No, but, like, basically it's like online dating through Zoom or something. That I haven't heard of. Only fans I have heard of, but then I haven't heard of.

Anyways, she gets, they're like, getting hot and heavy one night. And then somebody breaks into the guy's place and beats the shit out of them. And then she gets on her end and tells the guy that's beating him that I'm recording everything. So I know who you are. Oh. And then the next day, she's getting a weird phone calls talking about if you want to see your friend alive, pay this amount of money.

And they're like calling her job. and her ex-husband. They know her kid's name, what school they go to. And the police are telling her it's a scam. These people do this kind of thing to scam people out of money. Well, except they kidnapped her boyfriend. Well, that's part of the thing. It looked like a scam at first, but then she like...

Okay, okay. It, like, gets to her, and she has to, like, do some... Digging into the situation. she finds out it's not a scam and these people are like for real looking for well that's a trip so it's kind of like you don't know what's going on no we're kind of finding out as she finds out like those so it's pretty good so far i've got to the third episode and they're like 30 to 45 minute episode so it's like a quick watch yeah That always helps.

And let me see. No, that's it. That's all I watched. Oh, I did watch, not to jump in again to steal the spotlight, guys, but I did watch Gary. Have you seen Gary, Brian? Not yet.

I don't even know what that is. It's, Brian, you want to explain it? It is a special one-off episode of the bear. Oh, okay. It's like a prequel episode with John Bernthal's character. Oh, okay. Yeah.

He's all over right now, huh? He is all over. All right, so John Bernthal's, um, his part in it was fucking amazing. However, I'm not sure if I know what's going on and I'm not really sure I know how all this fits into the timeline of the bear. I shit I kind of wish they'd

explained a little bit more why these two guys have so much trouble because it's like him and cousin have you seen

the bear at all Philip I watched the first season okay well so you're behind

so you haven't seen any of Jamie Lee Curtis or any of that no not that I can think of okay all right well

it's been a fantastic in it it's a great It's a great fun. It's been a while since I watched the first season, so I don't even really remember what happened. Okay. I'll go watch it. About Gary, all I'm going to say is it's phenomenal.

It's great acting. It's an amazing performance by both of them. But I kind of don't understand the dynamic, if that makes sense. And if you haven't seen it, it probably doesn't make sense. It starts out being one thing. And about two-thirds of the way through, it like turns into something really weird and a super bizarre. I don't know.

I guess it's their backstory. Maybe more will be revealed in the final season. I don't know. You know, I feel like the bear sort of has that in general. Like, it's a good show. Right, like, what is it about? A kitchen?

I mean, like, I feel like they don't really know where they're going. They just make it real. And it works. I can see that. About a bear. Yeah. About a bear.

I don't know, man. I loved it. I loved it. It was a great show, but I was probably more confused having finished it than I was starting it. Does that make any sense at all, guys? Okay. Not at all. Okay.

Well, watch it, and then you'll understand. Like, they extended into his character, but maybe it was out of character? Totally out of character, and basically one of them started completely, fucking the other one over in front of a bunch of people and I'm like why is he doing this? I thought they were close. I thought they were loving. I thought they were family.

Right. But if you think about it and AJ said this to me, she said it kind of makes sense because John, if you think about it, John Baratthal's character, the way they talk about him, he committed suicide. So maybe some of this anger and this you know, the way he was acting, maybe it makes sense.

But I just don't know why he dropped his friend in the grease as hard as he did. I don't know. I guess he was going through his own inner demons and inner pain. Spoiler. Not really. You haven't seen it, so you don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know. Maybe I spoiled

it a little bit. That's okay. Anyway. That's part of the danger, folks. Sometimes we spoil accidentally. That's why I'm excited about the Colclosure Day, because I haven't really looked anything into it. I just... I feel like it's going to be something that's more real than we expect.

I don't think it's just a movie. Yeah, I haven't heard nothing about it. Yeah. And it's a Spielberg movie. Yeah. Spielberg. All right. Well, maybe it's part of his deal with the government that he cannot release any information

until the release of the movie. I think he's in a fucking Barat. Obama was hanging out on set, man. I'm telling you, like... Fuck you, Philip. Are you serious? Yes, this is part of it. This is part of the release of all the information.

Spielberg was working with... So this is a documentary? Maybe. Spielberg was working with Jacques Valet on Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Jacques Valet is like a legitimate scientist who has been into the UFO stuff since before I was born. Sure, sure. like he i think he's known about this stuff for a long time

well i mean it didn't just pop up right it's been around forever yeah i mean there's ancient drawings of aliens literally so i think that's what we're going to find out okay okay we'll see are we ready for horror headlines brian if we have any okay do you guys remember the movie angel with Robert De Niro. Yes. Came out in like the late 80s. Not a huge fan.

I thought it was kind of boring, but something... They are turning... HBO and A-24 are reimagining it to a series. Why not, right? Philip? And it is going to be produced by Zach Ephron and starring Zach. Starring Zach? The last thing I seen him and he was really good in.

He was a really good in. the name of that wrestling movie about the Von Erick. Yeah. Does he still look all weird? He's a good actor. Because he was looking super fucking weird there for a minute. For the movie? I don't know if it was for the movie or if it was something that, like he got roided out for the movie and then it affected his actual looks.

You know, like when Matthew McConaughey did Dallas Byers Club and he's never really looked the same. Yeah, super skinny. Yeah. I think that happened to Zach Ephron, but with like broids. I don't know. Zach Ephron was kind of my manned Cress for a while. I'm like, damn, I wish I could work out like that, you know? But if he's gone nuts, if he's gone off the reservation, who knows, right?

HGH and steroids help out a whole lot. That's what all those superhero movies do. We're aspiring to things that are not possible, man. Oh, yeah, dude, the Indian actor. What's his name? You all know who I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, I know you're talking about. He looks like a freak now.

The Eternal's guy, and he, like, totally denies all any steroids. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. Let's see. We all like the movie Ginger Snaps, right? Absolutely. Yeah, classic. Great were we'll be. Silly, but classic.

Yep. They're turning it into a TV series. Now, that I could see. That I could see. On what chance? Well, channel. Fucking streaming service, I guess. CBSLX's, Philip.

God damn it. No streaming site yet, but it's in the early stages. And the original director of the movie is the one show running it. News, news, news.

Scary stories to tell in the dark sequel is put on hold because of legal. rights. Oh no. Nobody gets shit. Oh no. I don't know that

fucking movie was made for, man. I guess it was meant to bring wasn't great. Scary movie to a new audience because it was like a kids movie. Yeah. Or the scary stories to a new audience.

But it felt like a kids movie or something. Kids. It was geared toward kids. Yeah. But like, The people that are fans of those books are my age. Long as it wasn't geared toward Jeffrey Epstein, right? Yeah.

That guy might still be alive. I don't know. I don't think so. I think he got silence big time. There's that dude in Florida. Hey, right down the street for me, I'm sure. It might be. Let's see.

What else do we have? Do you guys know those books? to choose your own adventure. Oh, I fucking love those, dude. Loved him. Like Dragon's Quest. Yes. Radio silence, the guys behind a couple of the screen movies, ready or not.

What's that one with the little vampire valerina? Abigail. Abigail? Yeah, they are bringing those to the big screen. All right. Now I'm excited. for the first time to not. But how were you going to make it to choose your own adventure?

They had that one Black Mirror episode. Yes. It was like that, remember? Yeah, that you can't even watch it on Netflix anymore. They took it off? Yeah, they do that. I got it in my head because I was watching somebody talk about Westworld. I was like, I never finished Westworld.

Let me go to HBO Max to see if. if it's on there and they took that off. What the fuck? See, especially on the HBO Mac stuff, that's fucked up. That's an HBO show. Like, what are you doing? Where do they go, To Be or what? I don't know.

Place where shows go to die. I mean, that, yeah, that Choose Your Own Adventure episode, that was fun, man. It was fun. I like it. I watch it three or four times because I wanted to do, you know, different endings and stuff. Yeah, me too. Hmm.

It was different, and it was, I mean, but it was gimmicky. Yeah, of course, of course. Didn't they have one with Bear Grills? I don't know. A Choose Your Own Adventure with Bear Grills? That sounds fun. Me and Nez for 31 days, we reviewed the, they had a WW one with The Undertaker. Oh, God. Of course they did.

A Choose Your Own Adventure? Yeah. Like a show? Yeah. You like, a couple of wrestlers are like going through this haunted house where the undertaker's at. You like, I heard about that. They can choose what they're supposed to do and where they're going to go. I think I heard you and as talking about that.

Chokeslam every time. I never saw it, though. That's why I like Kane. All right. I'm seeing no news. So I'll end with something that I think we spoke into existence, Lance. Yeah? We talked about a little director named Nicholas Wendon Reffin.

Oh, Lord. Yeah. He says his name. Oh, boy. That sounds like a... Maniac cop. Maniac cop. Officially moving forward.

Oh, man. Ouch. Ouch. What does that mean? He's remaking Maniac Cop. Oh, Maniac Cop. Okay. I mean, it's a classic.

It seems wrong to remake it, but... Right. Seems wrong for him to remake it. Do you know who we're talking about, Philip? No. Farf and schnuggen-Hagen? What the fuck was his name? Nicholas Winding Riffin.

He did that one with a... Oh, fucking Ryan Gosling. What was it? Try. Drive. Oh. That was okay. Man, I never really got into that movie.

Yeah. I didn't need it so much. I tried to watch it. I tried to watch it, and I was like, I don't want to watch this. Yeah. Well, he got worse from there. He was doing nothing but artsy-fartsy. Really bad movies.

He did The Neon Demon. Did you see that one, Philip? I didn't mind that one. Really? Oh, oh, Brian. I think Philip's excited for this, man. Maybe a cop by the neon demon director. Phillips all over it, Brian.

I arrest my case. I'm quiet. I won't say anything else. Philip, tell us why this is going to be a masterpiece. The problem with Neon Demon is that it was not really a horror movie. It like... Okay. Sort of was, but I liked...

I liked the message and the feel of it. I thought it was cool. It just wasn't particularly scary, like a act of... like it was going to be. Then you're going to love the sequel to it that he just came out with, right, Brian? He came out with a sequel to it? Yeah, we talked about it last week. What's it called?

Her living hell or something like that. Oh, her private hell. We didn't know what the fuck was going on in a trailer. An official sequel. Oh, that doesn't sound fun. Whatever. Ari Aster makes some shit too, but. Yeah, that's true.

Genius. Yeah. Yeah, some of his movies are boners, too, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah, I'm always afraid. Eh, I liked it. I still haven't watched that one. I need to check it out.

Oh, you got to watch it for the end. Yeah. Lance knows what I'm talking about. Yep. Yeah, I did a review with Jack on that one. We compared it to Pink Floyd's The Wall. Okay. As long as you're not comparing it to men, the ending in that one is totally nuts.

Right. All right. That's it for news. All right, Philip, you're, you've been gone a few weeks. You're ready to take that trip, brother? Yeah, I've got to go back to the trailer park at some point. You got it, man. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird.

We are going down to the trailer park. Take it away, Brian. our one and only trailer we're going to talk about is Victorian Psycho this is directed by Zachary Whigon and stars Jason Isaacs Micah Munro and Thomason McKenzie Has the director done anything else? I think I've seen it heard his name before

I'll chat real quick He is known for nothing I oh this movie's sanctuary but it's not a movie that everybody's seen okay have you seen it?

Yeah was it good? It was okay okay but I'm digging the vibe with the trailer yeah dude like it started out

and I was like fucking period piece great all right here we go sit through this boring ass that music kicks in. And then the guitars kick in. And I was like,

Victorian metal. She gets all wacky and it says it's, it says it's a comedy psychological horror. That makes sense. It did have some comedy vibes in the, in the trailer. Plus the metal stuff going on.

And like classic metal stuff. It was so good. Like I, and the, I've never just turned on a dime on a trailer like that before where it started out and I was like, man, I don't know. And then like the guitars pick up and I'm like, okay. And then by the end of it, I'm like, this is awesome. I want to see it.

Yeah, and then Michael Monroe, even if she, even if the movie's been bad, like she's never bad in the movie. She's pretty awesome. I'm a fan. Did we lose, Lance? No, I'm here, man. I just, I don't know about this one. I'm kind of like, I'm kind of of of two minds.

Oh, God damn it, Lance. Uh-oh. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. No, it's, it looks, it looks awesome, you know? And you guys know me? I love historical movies, right?

It's labeled also, it's also labeled as folk horror. And that, and I love folk horror. I don't know. And I watched it twice, and I watched it once with AJ and I said, do you want to go see this with me? It looks like your cup of tea.

And she said, I don't know. I don't know that it looks like AJ's cup of tea. That was what I thought at the beginning of the trailer. Yeah, exactly. It changed, right? And then they started with the guitars and she got all fucking nuts. And I was like, okay, maybe I do want to watch this. Well, when has Micah Monroe ever let us down, right?

Even that kind of boring movie, where the guy was stalking her in the other country. You know, that was kind of boring from time to time, but her performance stood up. Which one? It follows? No. Help me out, Brian.

Watcher. Watcher. Oh, yeah. Where she moves to a different country with her husband, and she doesn't know anybody there, and she doesn't speak the language. Oh. She thinks she's looking at her window,

and she thinks she sees somebody, watching her. Yeah. And the really creepy actor. She still kills it. Yeah. She still kills it. Yeah, she still kills it.

So, I mean, we're all going to watch this, no doubt. Yeah. That one movie that came out last year with her wasn't great. The Hand That Rocks the Credo remake. I didn't even see that. She was pretty good in it. Yeah, I still have not seen that. I wanted to.

Who else is in that? That wasn't the Sidney-Sweeney one. No. Oh, okay. Mary Elizabeth Winstead. Okay, that's right. You're thinking of the housemaid. Yeah, I got to watch that one, too.

That's pretty good. Yeah, I think Pedro gave it a 10-on-10, right, Brian? Something like that. Just because of Sidney, Sweeney? Yeah, and her tits, probably, right? But go into it not knowing anything, because there's some twisty turkeys in there. Okay.

True. Check you there. Victorian Psycho is in theaters, limited theater, is September 25th. And that's it for trailers. I hope the movie holds up to the trailer. Yeah.

I'm sure it will. I'm sure it will. That's my only concern. All right, let's go. Listener feedback. I'm back. All right, this week... I'm back, bitch.

That's it. We're out. God damn it. It keeps popping up on screen and won't go away. All right. This week, the podcast spotlight shines on Earth Station Boo. A week... Earth Station boo.

Earth Station boo. Come on. Really? A weekly horror-focused podcast hosted by Spilled Tea and Karen the writer. Part of the ESO Network. The show dives into everything horror. From classic monster movies and beloved slasters to obscure fan films and internet creepypastas. Oh, wow.

All delivered with a mix of passion, laughs, and spooky vibes. Damn. I think I'm in. And they said thanks for the shout-out. Yeah, no, this sounds pretty fucking amazing. It's like got a little bit of everything, huh? Earth Station Boo. I don't know.

Interesting name. I'm going to check this out. I'm downloading it right now. I'm going to try and have. episode and see what happens. Earth Station Boo. What a fucked up weird name, though, huh? I kind of like it.

I guess, yeah, I guess. Gotta be original, right? In regards two pieces, Penelope Courtney, says I have a soft spot for Juan Pecor's Simons' films, for some reason. First one I must have seen

was where time began in the early days of cable. he always used Frank Brana in his films, which is a plus in my book. I'm not sure what a whole lot of those words were. We haven't done pieces yet, have we? No, I've never seen it. I thought we did, Brian, for some reason.

Check that spreadsheet. I could have sworn we did pieces. Isn't that the one at the school at the university or something like that? And there was the groundskeeper. I'm 99% sure we've done that. one. Yeah, so both sets of my grandparents

have no, they're still alive, but none of them have any idea where they are. So I don't have a whole lot of hope for my memory. You hear that, Brian? I'll live forever. I just won't know where the fuck I am. The end of Oak Street, Pat Caruso says

can't wait for this. Yeah, me neither. I'm sticking by it, Brian. Alien ant farm. Yeah, or like a zoo, right? Like that Twilight Zone episode, right? It was humans, but they were inside the alien zoo being watched. Smooth crap, I'm talking about, Philip?

Hell yeah, that's a great band. Yeah, but you don't know. Do you understand the concept of an alien ant farm? Yes, I do. You know how we take these little ant farm? farms and we watch the ants and we observe them and maybe that's what the deal is man I think that's what's going on in the real life to be honest

it might be I hate to be an asshole well I there's there's a newer episode with Joe Rogan and Bob Lazar and he gets Bob Lazar is like the Area 51 whistleblower guy from the 80s whose story

hasn't changed and everything he said totally lines up with exactly what's been happening. He seems legit. He seems legit. He seems legit. It sounds nuts, but he seems legit. And with the official story of the government right now, he is legit.

And he, so he got him drunk and they went into like full speculation territory. That got him drunk. Yeah. He gave him some whiskey. And that never hurt.

right little lubrication well and a lot of his points were you know like he he he regrets what if he what if what if they were keeping that stuff secret

for a reason and he's like second thinking his coming forward stuff okay like what if we're just galactic cattle or some shit you know Would we really want to know that? Right.

So we'll see. I don't know. I don't know if they even know. Huh. Somebody knows. But maybe an alien-an-in-form situation. I think so, man. I think it's the most likely scenario.

Yeah. Think about it. All right. Where are we at? All right. Alien three. Alien 3, Pac-Peruso, says it's not as bad as everyone remembers it being. I agree.

That said, compared to 1 and 2, it is the weakest. Huh, out of those three? Probably. Is he leaving out the other ones? I kind of forget some of the others. Alien resurrection. Well, he said compared to 1 and 2, right? Yeah, compared to 1 and 2, it's the weakest of those three.

Okay. But not bad in this kingdom. I've never hated it. I mean, there's some things in it that I didn't like that they did, like killing off Michael Bean's character and the little girl. Yeah. Kind of mean, kind of mean-spirited. It goes from, like, super serious and the first one,

to, like, progressively more silly. I guess so. I guess so. Adam Bunch says, and a hundred times better than Alien Seward. What's that? Alien cunt?

Or what? What? Hey, man. I really, I still really have a soft place in my heart for Prometheus. I love that movie. Yeah. Is that what he means about the C word Prometheus?

No, covenant, I think. Oh, Covenant. Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. Okay. That one was. silly too.

John McCulley says amazing film. All right. Well, there you go. Decent, decent reviews for Alien 3. Not bad. I mean, it was David Fincher, you know, one of the greatest directors of all time. Wasn't there, like, studio interference with that movie? Yes, I've heard that, but there is a director's cut.

That makes sense. I don't know if it's that much different. It seemed like, you know, Marvel got a whole of the Alien friends. Yeah, right. They marvelized it, huh? Yeah. They Disneyized it.

Like they did with Star Wars, Philip. Yeah, exactly. Anybody's seen the Mandalorian and Grogook? No. I have not even finished the show. I want to. Have you all seen it? Nes did.

Nes did. And? I have not listened to his review. Oh. I'm going to because he was going to some theater with some kind of new screen or some new gimmick. Oh, man, I love those gimmicks, man. They have little baby grogues running down the eyes. They spray water on you and they have gas and you smell it and they have baby grogues running up and down the aisle.

Love it. Why not? Anybody, anything you get back in the theaters. Anyway, bombed massively. In regards to obsession, behind the scenes pick, Burley Thomas

says they looks like they're having a good time. Oh yeah, I saw that picture that Brian posted on Facebook. They had to have a good time filming that movie, right, Brian? Philip, you missed out, dude. You fucking missed out last week. Have you seen it yet?

No, I don't watch it. No spoilers. I'm going to say it's going to probably be in mine in Lance's top three. Well, then I'll have to watch some of them. Yeah, it's into the Spider-Verse territory, Philip. Okay, cool. Yeah, it really is. Check it out.

I'm kind of excited for the new Spider-Man movie, too, though. Aren't we all? In the Spider-Nor series, right? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. not to so much I don't know I mean it's got Nick Cage

so it can't go wrong with that well yeah Bate would slap you for talking out against Nick Cage I haven't heard anything because I don't read reviews before I watch something but I've seen IGN

give it a an 8 out of 10 really okay not bad that's a plus we'll see how it goes yeah Let's see, the poster for blowy

Dave Duncan says blow me No, thank you Brian, explain the poster man Looks like some kind of Demon with its mouth Wide open Trying to give you a blowie It looks like it is

It looks like a blow-up doll that gives blow jobs, Philip. That's what it sounds like. That does not surprise me. Just spray the Vaseline oil and inside it. Yeah. Is that how you do it, Lance? Don't go in without lube. You will regret it, I promise.

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With a K. California knows how to party. Yeah. I think that's where they got the The Californication thing is from that movie. You think so? Because don't they spell it with a K? Maybe.

I'm not sure. I thought I heard a story about it. Okay. I can see that. I'm probably totally getting that wrong. David DeKovny's and both of them? There is a story to the California Cation Red At Chili Peppers album.

Oh, I thought you were talking about the show. Oh, maybe that's where the Chili Peppers got. it man i don't know anyway it's in there somewhere a journalist goes on tour i always i always think i always think of tupac yeah anytime i hear california he's the o g west coast man that's so huge like in the early 90s and stuff you know before uh his story ended unfortunately i bet he was killed by aliens probably A journalist duo goes on tour of serial killer murder sites with two companions, unaware that one of them is, in fact, a serial killer himself. Kind of.

I should have did a background check. Right, right. Or don't go with the weird redneck. Director is Dominic. He's fine. Don't worry about him. Yeah. He doesn't look creepy at all.

Well, and there, I don't. all fairness, a cap with a literal flag on it. Oh, Confederate flag. Well, but that was so fucking crazy in the 90s. That's what I'm saying. It wasn't quite as bad back then. Right. Well, it definitely wasn't. There's still a guy down the street that flies a Confederate flag. Of course there is. You're in Galveston. You're still in Texas. They said yes because they they had Juliet Lewis with them and she was all

innocent and balanced it out like mildly retarded I think she has the mildly mildly like the the mentality of a six year old

with this fucking guy anyway early early damn it ago is that French or something director is Dominic Sina also known for wide out and gone in 60 seconds

Wow John Sina Dominic Sina Oh Dominic Sina He did something else too Yeah but gone in 60 seconds I mean Swordfish he did swordfish Swordfish

Okay yeah I remember a particular scene in Hallie Berry's boobies That's why you should watch havoc for Anne Hathaway. Okay. All right. Writers are Stephen Levi, or Levy, and

Tim Metcalf. During the movie, early Gracie Sports What? Early Gracie sports a chipped tooth. Early Gracie's that... Early. Early sports a chipped tooth. Oh, right. Okay. Early has a chipped tooth.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. That's his name. Early Gracie. I'm like, what does that mean? Early. Brad Pitt visited a dentist to have the tooth chipped for the roll. Really? One of those fucking guys. Damn it, Jared Lotto. Michael Coon, head of Polygram,

the studio behind the film, hosted a get-together at his home and invited several Polygram stars, including Brad Pitt, who had recently starred in California, much to Coon's surprise, Pitt turned up early while he was still in the shower. Coon's wife welcomed Pitt inside, and is believed that Pitt watched cartoons on the sofa with Coon's kids while the parents were getting ready, much to their amusement.

Smoking wheat out of a honey bear, right? That is an odd trivia for the movie. That's a lot of weird. Why do I need to know that? Like that's not even fun. You pick these, don't you, Philip? Aren't you the one who goes in and picks up the trivia? Now, maybe if he got out the shower and came out and he's seen Brad Pitt showing his kids the movie California.

Yes, that would be totally different. Indeed. Because of the implication. Yes. All right. California. Brian, what you think about it? I enjoyed this one. I have not seen this one since.

closer to when it originally came out. I was probably way too young to be watching it, but I enjoyed this rewatch. I thought Brad Pitt killed it in his performance. Juliette Lewis killed in his performance. David DeCovny and Michelle Forbes were kind of just coasting along. Yeah.

Seriously. Is David Duccoffney a good actor? He's like the same guy. everything. Is he? Kind of milk toast? Because I feel like he worked in the X-Files but like I was watching this and I was like he feels like not a good actor. Yeah, I would agree.

Not great, right? I feel like if I was on set and he's like shooting a scene, reading his lines, I'd tell him the cut, man. Wake the fuck up. It looks like he's just on scene reading his lines. And Michelle Forbes has like one tone in this movie and that's bitchy throughout the entire.

But she is hot. She's definitely hot. You're saying that because she's a Star Trek. I know. You're right. You're right. Star Trek Next Generation. Yeah, because like Brad Pitt and what's your name?

Juliette Lewis. Juliet Lewis. Hey, Darry. their asses off, right? Fucking carried this movie. True, true. And there was something I noticed on the rewatch when she tells the story

about how she was raped by three guys. Uh-huh. Yeah. Is that how she became the way she was? Maybe. I could kind of see that, right? Because she kind of got emotional and, like,

stop telling the story. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Just some trauma. and so she's just a kid all the time. Well, I kind of was maybe thinking maybe they also beat her. Yeah, oh, well, that too. So that's something I notice.

Not as many dead bodies as I thought as I remembered. Right. Because I remembered that this movie is he went on a killing spree and he only kills like a few people. Right. It's like two or three people, right? Especially that guy that was just asking for it at the gas station, the guy that just takes his wad out of, his wad of money out of his pocket

and just kind of waves it around and then goes to the bathroom. Yeah. That just happened with a kid at prom. Did it? Yeah. Real life story? Wait, real life story, kid at prom. Out there waving a giant fucking wad of money and surprise, surprise to get the shot and stolen

at the end of the night. Was that in Galveston where you live? No, I don't know where it was. Oh, okay. I thought that was like something that happened at your kid's school. No. I don't even carry cash anymore. Yeah, it was a lot of cash, too.

Well, yeah, who does? Who carries cash anymore, right? Somebody got robbed outside my house by gunpoint two weeks ago. Well, there you go. Stupid is, as stupid does, Mom always says. Good way to get shot. But anyways, yeah. I get nervous just going to an ATM, guys.

Dio? I wish a motherfucker would. I don't go to ATMs where they're like in the deserted, desolate place. I get nervous anywhere going to an ATM. Maybe it's just a personal thing, but every time I go up there and I take my card out, I'm looking around left and right, left and right, like, oh, my God, it'd be so fucking easy for somebody to just walk up and hit me over the head and take the money.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid. Who knows? That's the world we live in, boys. But yeah, back to California. All right, back to California. I thought David DeCovney was fucking shitty. And, Phil, you raise an interesting question. Is David DeCovney a good actor? I want our listeners to change. chime in because I don't think he is. Like he was a lot of fun in

Zoolander. Oh, I don't know. I don't know about that. The movie with the smiley face and the seven-up guy. Fucking, I can't remember the name of it. With the aliens and shit? Idiocracy?

No, it was the alien one. Looking it out right now. I'm thinking idioticracy, but you're telling me that's wrong. So I'm misremembering it already. David Dukovine and the seven-up guy in an alien movie. Yeah, and it had Stifler in it.

Yes, it was so fun. I love that movie. It was called Evolution. Evolution. But I don't know that David Dukovny was actually awesome in that movie. I think he was just David Ducfney. Yeah. He was probably this character in that movie, just in a different situation.

Probably. Yeah, but at least he, It looked like he had some sort of interest in that one. Like he was here for a fucking paycheck. He didn't look like he was interested at all. Seems that way, right? This character in the movie didn't even seem like he was interested in writing this book that he already got paid for. Like, I checked out on every scene that he was in.

Which sucks because I really love the X-Files. Yeah, and I get into some like true crime stuff, but every time, he's like narrating like a site that they're at. I'm like nodding off or checking my phone. Yeah. Because he's like not giving it any, anything. But when then Brad Pitt comes in and I'm locked in on his character

because he's putting everything into that character. He really is. Like he hands up the redneck thing like to an extreme. degree that doesn't really make sense. But I think it works, man, because he leans so far into it that, yeah,

I mean, what are you going to argue with him? Like, he's in that role. Yeah, and I like, he's, like, fully into this role, because at the end, when he gets his, like, face beat in. I like the way he's switching up the way he's talking and sounding because his mouth's all fucked up and

great performance. Yeah, him and Juliette Lewis in this movie were like fantastic grade A stuff. Everybody else in it was just sort of along for the ride. All right. Lance, what do you think? Man, I watched this movie the other night with AJ. And we saw it at least twice when it first came out. Like early on when we had our apartment, we were first together. I distinctly

specifically remember watching this movie with her twice so we're about 10 minutes in and she's like I don't remember this you're sure we've seen it we're 20 minutes in she's like I don't remember this you should we've seen it 30 minutes in she's like

I don't remember this are you sure we've seen it I think she literally blocked her mind out because she did not want to visualize Brad Pitt he's on her bucket list guys

Brad Pitt, let me tell you this. Brad Pitt's on my bucket list. And she remembered the scene where he crawls out of the hole he duck. Brian, I think so, dude. I think she, I know we saw this because I remember it vividly. Because I love this movie when I was younger.

And I know for a fact she saw it with me, but she swears to God. This was the first watch. So she does not want to think of Brad Pitt as early. This was a fucking masterful performance. And when you did that trivia, Philip, that he chipped his tooth, just to have a chip tooth to the roll? Really?

That young? This dude was fucking hungry. He really wanted to be a fucking great actor. But this was like after Legends of the Fall, right? I don't know, was it? I think so. Let me check. I mean, this was one of the first things I remember seeing him in.

I just remember the fucking cap, and I remember him mistreating the chick, and I remember her saying, well, he doesn't really hurt me. He just punishes me when I deserve it. Yeah, I only get whippings when I deserve it. Oh, my God. This dude, man, what a fucking psychopath. Put your titty away, Adele. amazing performance

fucking amazing performance from bad pit Brad Pitt this this movie is like it's up there man this is one of the ones I really enjoy like you guys say the other two the supporting actors eh you know whatever so so it is kind of funny it is kind of it's ironic the way that she was

like such a pervert right and she was obviously a voyeur right because she was taking a picture she was taking pictures of them having sex in the car what does she expect of course he's going to look at her and smile right he did a river runs through it right before

this a river runs to it that was a big one but when was Legends of the Fall Legends of the Fall was after after he did with the vampire oh wow okay this was before an interview right

yeah He did true romance after this. I love true romance. Definitely one of his earlier things. Yeah, yeah, it's one of his earlier things, man. True romance, he just showed up in almost a cameo, right? Like the stoner sleeping on the guy's couch, smoking a honey bear with weed in it. Man, I don't even remember that, maybe.

Yeah, that's a classic. I love that one, too. Yeah, he was Floyd. Floyd. guy on the couch All right Leap, suffice it to say I love this movie

Uh, yeah, man I think it was, it's sort of just okay for me because... Really? I like, yeah, well, I like Brad Pitt a lot. He's one of my favorite actors,

um, especially as he's gotten older. Like, I used to not like him. I was like, man, Brad Pitt, fucking everybody loves Brad Pitt, fuck off.

And then like, as he's gotten older, I'm like, dude, he's in so many just cool roles. I like him. amazing. Yeah.

Yeah. And, uh, and he really, like he hams it up in this. I don't know of any Southern people who called the, who, who, who named somebody Adele. And they're called an Adele, but. Maybe it's a Mississippi thing. I don't fucking know. I don't know. Kentucky.

They picked him up in Kentucky. Yeah. Well, I, okay. So I'm from Texas. I have a Texas accent. Right. I don't always know. that I even have it. It gets really bad when I'm drunk as like, you know, I'm kind of buzzed right now.

So, you guys probably only know that accent because I'm drunk all the time on this show. There you go. But when I hear like in a movie like the Fast and the Furious Three with the Alabama kid. Okay. Like that Alabama accent sounds like fake Southern to me. But it's not because he is. Right. Over the top. It's a movie thing because I was listening to an episode of Dumbies of Horror and Tim Davis was going on about, they were talking about a Australian horror movie. And he was like, I got to get this off my chest. We don't sound like that. Yeah.

Well, and, you know, maybe it is just different areas of the, like the, like the, George. Georgia accent is totally different than the Alabama accent, which is totally different than the Texas and Kentucky and all that stuff. Right. So maybe it's just weird, but the whole... Hey, Dale, I'm going to get you. Yeah, overdone. No, I get it. You got to add the snort in there, digger.

I'm going to say, giggedy, giggedy. Oh, yeah, the... As the movie went on, it annoyed me less and less because he was... was just so committed to the character. Yeah, he was committed. He chipped his fucking tooth, Philip. Yeah, that it worked. Why are you being so tough on Brad Pitt, Philip?

It just worked. Well, I, um, it was, I don't know why I being so tough on him because he was the highlight of the movie. David Dukovny's sucked ass. Yeah, true, true. So boring. Yeah, you're looking at the movie as a whole. I get it. Yeah, no, I understand.

If you look at the poster, it says Brad Pitt and Julian. Louis. Right. Oh, okay. It doesn't say David DeCovney or Michelle Forbes. There's probably a reason for that. I need them to not be in the movie. It should have just been Juliette Lewis and Brad Pitt. This should have been like natural-born killers.

It could have been you showing up, Philip. Juliette Lewis. Yeah. Oh, I'm getting my text messages here, guys. All my family members. Go, Spurs, go. Go Spurs. All right. Some ridiculous flops.

Oh, dude. Stepping on feet, stepping on feet, grabbing them with both arms. A dirty play. Flopping everywhere. They're filthy. Filthy. There was a sports announcer, totally off subject, sorry. But there was a sports announcer on, like, ESPN or something, and they had a little panel,

and he was like, man, if SGA gets MVP and then does it again next year or whatever, and they keep letting this happen, then little kids in school are going to be learning how to flop. I don't know about that, but that's funny. I've seen it. I've seen little kids flopping hard. In basketball? Yeah, in basketball. It's bad.

I remember when it was, it used to be in art. Yeah. It used to not fucking happen. You look at Kobe out there playing and he's not flopping for anything. No, but Brian, Brian is talking about the Utah Jazz back in the 90s. They used to send in that one player on the bench. who had six fouls left. Kind of like cocky has the goon.

Yeah. And he would get in the head of the star player. Yes. Flop. Not throughout the whole game, just one or two. Yes. The star players flop. Well, and part of that started with Hardin.

And, you know, he was on the Rockets. So I hate to criticize. Hardin's not that bad, though. Come on. I'm thinking about John. John Stockton. From the jazz, the Utah Jazz, Carl Malone, John Stockton, they fucking flop like fish. Yeah, which was weird because he'd flop, but then on the defensive end, he would lay

into you. Some dirty shit. It's the refs. It's the problem here. Oh, man. Oh, the refs were horrible in the last game, but this isn't a sports podcast, right? Yeah. Well, listen, if they're just fucking laying, rolling around on the fucking ground, just don't call the foul.

let them keep going let him be a man down because that fucking retard wants to lay on the ground and roll around like they've got the yeah I'll be quiet never mind let's not get politically incorrect

I got I probably ought to quit call me retards my bad I don't know all right do you guys get the idea we all get the idea for sure hey there's one

it's like now that guy's a You know what I mean? Yeah, like a dead fish flopping on the floor, right? Yeah. All right. Let's go scores. Brian, what do you think of California? Based off of Brad Pitt, Juliet, Lewis,

I had to give this an eight. Okay. It would get higher, but David DeCovine just... He's sleepy in this... I mean, like... Like he was on some opium or something. Call Dane to Hahn and find out where he gets his nap set. Did they have Xanax back in the 90s?

Because I think the company just robbed the drugstore. Maybe. Even in the scene when early, like, they finally reveals that he's a fucking serial killer. And he takes him by gunpoint. I know, man. He's like so calm. I give it to at least Michelle Forbes.

You know, she's cried. She's. freaking out, you know, she's got true. But David McCona was like, what are you doing, man? Yeah. Michelle Forbes was like Uber bitch, but at least that made sense, right? Under the

circumstances. Yeah, probably didn't give her a whole lot of direction. She was not the star of the movie. Right. All right. Lance, what do you think? Yeah, eight. This is one of my favorite performances from Brad Pitt, and that's going to be very controversial, especially with my wife, who literally froze this movie out of her

because she did not want to remember Brad Pitt in this role. But that one scene where the Michelle Forbes, that sneaky fucking photographic bitch, is taking pictures of them, having sex in the car. That is kind of invading their privacy, right? Well, when he... Well, but when he looks out of that window and looks right at her and he's got...

You see that gap in his tooth and that nasty look. Classic. Great brand hit performance, man. Yeah, they are in public. This dude is in it to win it. And in their car. Oh, yeah. With her foot hanging out of the window.

She is flexible. Yes, this is an eight. This is an eight great movie. It was a very young Juliette Lewis. Oh, she was 19 years old when they filmed this. Oh, that was. Yeah. Barely of age, barely of age.

I'm trying to take back my flexible comment. Yeah. I'm going to go seven. Okay. I think my favorite Brad Pitt performance might be once upon a time in Mexico, probably not my favorite Brad Pitt movie. Right, right. Performance from him in particular, I thought was good.

Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. But yeah. I really loved F1. Have you seen F1? The movie. I've not got to that yet Oh my God

That is a great movie Those racing movies Always catch me off guard Like that Ford versus Ferrari movie I loved it I saw that in the theater And I saw F1 in the theater Yeah

And then I saw F1 again at home on Apple And it's amazing Oh my God Brad Pitt's performance And that is fucking phenomenal guys All right This guy is here It's a woman Lance

He's here forever, man. Brad Pitt is, I mean, he's probably one of the ten best actors of all time, and that's strong words, you know? He's not just a pretty boy. He's a phenomenal actor. And this particular movie, well, this particular movie tells you how much range he has, right? Yeah. The fact that AJ could not watch it again or she misremembered watching it

because he was so nasty in it, you know? And then he's a hero in other movies. He's just phenomenal. Amazing. There was a question online that I saw. It was, who's the better actor, Tom Cruise or Bad Pitt?

Oh, that's, Tom Cruise is just in it to smile. Yeah. You know, listen, I love the Tom Cruise movies, but it's Brad Pitt and it's,

oh, it's a joke. Yeah. All the way, man. But it depends on what you're talking about. Really, Brian?

Really? Action movies. Tom Cruise is kind of a go. Tom Cruise. Go there because he's a fucking psycho. Yeah, he is. Like him and Jackie Chan should be in a movie together.

Yeah, I, okay, I kind of get that. I kind of get that. But, straight up acting. Better acting chops? Not in close. Okay. Fair enough.

On to Passenger, 2026, the brand new one. I forgot, 2026 was brand new. I was like, oh, I can find this online, and I didn't. So, here we are. after a young couple witnesses, a gruesome highway accident,

they soon realized they did not leave the crash scene alone. As a demonic presence is called the passenger, won't stop until it claims them both. This is like an urban legend thing, right? Is it? They kind of played it off as it was. I think it is. It could be.

I feel like I've heard this sort of story before and called the passenger. where this demonic presence follows you. Not necessarily because you ran somebody over or whatever, but you get that. Yeah, it sounds kind of familiar. It looked a little bit familiar. Director is Andre Ovidol, also known for Troll Hunter,

and the last voyage of the Demeter. Oh, no. I like that that was included instead of the autopsy of Jane Doe. Oh, okay. You know why, Brian. You know why, Brian. because it was the last movie that none of us watched.

We just didn't even review it. Hey, we were all busy that week. I'm sorry, guys, I didn't watch it. Yeah, I mean, either. Yeah, me neither. We were all so busy that we didn't even communicate with each other to see if anybody even watched it. Even our guests didn't watch it, right?

Oh, yeah. We had to guess on that week. You didn't watch neither. Oh, well. Uh, writers are Zachary Donahue and T.W. Bergesse, Bergesse, something like that. Sure. Uh, some RV related scenes were filmed in two locations in Washington State. Uh, at the Enum Claw Expo Center and, uh, the Grand Coulee.

Uh, actual, all right. Actually RV and camper vans, uh, actual RV and camper van owners participated in the production with their RVs as extras. Okay. For the Enum Claw Festival shots, actual artisans and food vendors

from the area displayed and sold items during the production. That sounds like they totally cheaped out and they were like, hey guys, y'all just keep doing what we're doing. We're going to film here. Don't mind the cameras.

Brian, what you think about? passenger. I really wanted to like this movie. I didn't hate it. I was kind of excited about it. I didn't hate it. There was some things in it that I liked.

I liked the plot. Right. I like this. No, I like the set for the plot. The whole mythology of the demon that you, I don't know if I'm going to spoil it or not, but fuck it.

Basically, if you stop for somebody that's in an accident that's caused by the demon the demon latches onto you oh and then it kind of torments you until it kills you and that's the basic setup for this couple who basically sell everything and go live out of a van you know they got the tricked out van it's like maybe basically a home on wheels the van life guys yeah yeah well all right why Washington makes sense for that. Yeah, and he's all like gung-ho about it. Like he's like got this cheesy ass grant every time he's talking about shit that has to do with the van.

And you can tell like she's not all the way sold on it. And then they come across this car crash and they stop. And that's when the demon latches on. And then spooky shit happens. And now I like that whole setup. But the movie and the whole kind of felt like it was a generic Blumhouse movie. So the moral of story is don't stop for a car crash? Well, when...

Pretty much, yeah. It really is. When you meet the movie's wise person that knows all the lore of the folk horrid men. The magical wise person, right, Brian? Yeah, they basically tell you, don't stop. So I guess that's the moral. Just keep driving. Just keep driving.

Don't stop. Well, so in China, they do that. Like, they have such a problem with insurance fraud. And, like, they'll hold you responsible if, like, you try to help somebody and they die. Are you kidding me? So, like, people will just leave people that get hit by cars and shit, laying in the road and just keep walking. Oh, my God. It's insane.

Are you serious? Yeah. That's what I heard. I don't know how true. Wow. That is nasty. That's terrible. I was kind of looking forward to this one from the trailers because there is some creepy

stuff that's mostly in the trailers, unfortunately. And I wish they would have went into the lure of what's happening instead of, you know, meeting the one person that knows all the information. And they just kind of run down everything in like 90 seconds. but for the exposition yeah but for somebody I was disappointed for somebody did that did

troll hunter in the autopsy of Jane Doe no shit I was very disappointed damn because it looks like it has a cool feel to it I watched the uh so yeah because when I was looking for it one of the things that I that I saw online

which is why I was like oh well I'll just watch it home was it was on YouTube for like 26 and I'm like, fuck that, I'll just pirate it. And then I couldn't find it to pirate. And then I tried to click on the $26 YouTube link because I was like, well, that's better than going to the theater. And nope. It was like, here's the trailer.

Nope. Pre-order. But it looked good. I mean, it's not cheaply done. Yeah. The effects look pretty decent. It's one level above Blumhouse. if you get what I mean.

But you know, Blumhouse has some good stuff sometimes. Okay, one level of recent Blumhouse. You guys are forgetting Night Swim. They definitely have some stickers. The masterpiece,

Night Swim. I will rewatch this. I will rewatch this three times in the theater over Night Swim. Okay. Well, there's that. Point made.

Point made, Byr. I can't remember what we gave Night Swim, but I know that Lance gave it a same. I did. And I stand by that six. A six is like me and Philip giving like eights. That's actually a good point.

Yeah, six is pretty good for Lance. I cannot remember the last movie I've seen that I've enjoyed the trailer and the literal opening scene more than the movie itself. Can you guys? Ouch. No, I mean, I'm not trying to be nasty. I'm just saying all kidding aside

the trailer like the first scene in this film which basically was the trailer it really got me I'm like okay this is kind of cool you know it's like two guys on the road you got these three scratches

three scratches in the car and I thought maybe okay it's a monster movie it's a werewolf you know because they literally pull the one guy up across the hood of the car right and I'm like

this is going to be pretty fucking cool It's like a monster movie. I love it. I can't wait to see the monster. But as you meet these two main characters, and they're leaving their apartment, and they're deciding to go on the road because the guy wants to go on the road,

and she's kind of like, okay, honey, if you want to go on the road, I'll go on the road. And I'm like, okay, where are we going? She didn't sound like that, Phil. Oh, okay, she didn't have the vocal fry Because I was like, all right, that's immediately a no-go. I was like, okay.

Where are we going here? Oh, my God, I hope you die first. All I know is that, okay, I got a little bit excited, Brian. There is a scene. When they're first on the road, you see him at a beach. beach. Do you remember that scene, Brian? Mm-hmm. Okay. So, all, even though all this was actually filmed up in the Pacific Northwest,

so the beach was obviously really on the Pacific Northwest, if you look at the phone where there in the GPS, I don't know why they had that little Mcuffin of having a GPS, old-school GPS thing that they held on to, you remember that, Brian? Mm-hmm. Yes, of course, it. It pays off at the end, right? That's why they have it, right? Because it's not part of the cell phone.

It's this little private self-contained GPS, blah, blah, blah. Okay, that's going to come into play toward the end of the movie. We know it. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. But when they held up the phone, if you notice, Brian, it showed. I think it was, what was the town in Tennessee where the mountains are? Not Nashville, but the town toward... The East, right?

What is it? Memphis? No, not Memphis. Chattanooga. Early would know. Yes, early would know. It's Chattanooga. Tennessee's got mountains all over.

That is a beautiful state. Okay, well, that's where they were going. But if you look at the screen, going down toward the bottom, it says Brevard. Brevard is the county I live in, guys. So I thought, okay, this is kind of neat. It's a call to home, right? they literally have Brevard County on the map

and they're in the beach there and they go up so that kind of got me once that happened and we got into the actual story you really analyze this movie you know what when they get to the point where they're going to the I don't know it was like what do they call it

burning van Brian Oh the little band festival thing Yeah they had the effigy of a little van, a paper mache van Philip on top of a stick. We do a bunch of drugs and drive around.

It's awesome. That's what it looked like. You know what? And then the main guy, he goes up, hey, hey, you're Tom Sawyer! You're Tom Sawyer! Or whatever the guy's name was. Oh, yeah, man. I'm Tom Sawyer.

I have a fucking YouTube video and we go around in my van, man. and I'm like, oh my fucking God. Again, Phil, these are not accurate depictions of their voice. Well, that makes sense with the, so sort of a parody of the Van Life YouTube guys.

Okay, I get it. Yeah, it kind of tells you, it kind of tells you more about the boyfriend's character, how he's just in love with his life and this is what he wants to do. Well, and, like, they had that Van Life couple

were like like he killed his wife or some shit that doesn't surprise me knowing these creepy fucks this was weird I mean you have all these weird people

I don't get it man why do you want to live at a fucking van number one they would down by the river stuff no Brian stop me from wrong

how are they going to fit all those lights and then there was that kind of one scene in the woods where they were moving the movie projector around and you saw the characters on the trees and they moved it

and there was somebody back there. That was kind of neat, right? How are they going to fit all that shit in this teeny, tiny little van, Brian? They're called compartments, Lance. I guess. Can't have shit. You live in a van.

Dude, I have a fucking two-bedroom house and we have trouble hiding stuff. That's true. I don't know. there's only so much space. I don't know how they get all this shit. And then that one scene where he's like, he's got the rose pedals, Brian,

and he's got all the lights up there. And he's like, here, let me show you a surprise. And he pushes the button and all the lights light up. She says, oh, I didn't know those were up there before. They're hanging on fucking, you literally see the lights hanging down. I thought that would have appealed to your rom-com. You would have thought so, right? You would have thought so.

maybe I was pissed off because it didn't. I don't know, man. Some romantic lights. This movie was fucking whack, man. I have no way to describe this film. I mean, this was horrible. And then you've got the magical chick at the

fucking show that's like, oh, you do this, this, this, this, and this. And then they show up with a bunch of these fucking people on the road. And they're like, y'all get the fuck out of here now. Get out of here. And then all of a sudden, she's like, okay, I guess I'll help you. I've told you how to get the fuck out of here, but now I'll help you.

This movie was fucking horrible. This was fucking, this was a one. Did Brad Pitt pop up? Goddammit I, Dale, I fucking told you. Brian, stop me. Brian, Brian stop me before I give a score, because we're not there yet. Help me out.

What was the redeeming of this, Brian? Are we in spoilers? I think so. Oh, my bad. Brian, what's your score? I didn't hate it, so I'll give it a five. It's kind of... All right, Lance is going to be lower.

Two. It's no nice one. And I'm being generous. I'm being very generous. Because I love the opening scene. The opening scene was fucking phenomenal. And then you have the... Opening scene was phenomenal.

But then once you find out the three scratches are and how she finds out, That's so stupid. Two. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right. Spoilers. Lance already did it. Peacemaker didn't see it. Yeah, this is bad.

But he gave it a two. All right, buddy. Eagley Hey Eagley There was an awesome Head rip scene Yeah some of the kill scenes were okay I would agree

Even though that scene did not make sense Right The lady that was helping them Oh I know Just ripped her head inside the van Yeah I was like why did it attack her Made no sense right Yeah but I mean

Like I said it led to a cool head ripped she like filled the demon was like behind the lady sitting in she was sitting in the driver's seat and he was the demon was behind grabbed her by the jaw and ripped her head off oh that kind of head ripped all right i'll take that well i just the the the creepiness of the trailer with uh with like driving by and seeing the same dude on the side of the road yeah that was kind of neat it was it was it was a It had aesthetic. You know,

it had, yeah, it had like a good atmosphere to it, I guess. It gets you, like, I compare it to,

I don't know if you guys remember the, the trailer for the, the first Nunn movie. Vangly. The nun,

it made you think the nun was going to come out of one way, but then it came out from the side and it was like a big jump

scared that they should have saved for the movie. Yeah. That's what I compared the trailer to because that, a lot of that stuff should have been in the movie

and not in the trailer, but... Well, they had to make the movie look as good as possible because it was dog shit. Yeah. But I don't even know where to go with spoilers. Well, there was a passenger. There was a passenger. It was tormenting the girl.

She's telling her boyfriend. Of course, he doesn't believe it until he actually sees it. Then he's like, oh, you were right. And she was like, yeah, I fucking know I was right. Right. That one scene, Brian.

I was going to say they go find the magical lady who's in this caravan of RVs and vans. And then they basically find out that the demons lashed on to her and everybody's like rounding up. Like, oh, got to go. Get the fuck out. Yeah, got to go. Can't help you. Yes. And then for some reason, she's like, I'll help you.

Yeah. After she just told her to get the fuck out. like 30 seconds later. Yeah. Gets her head ripped off by the demon. Okay. Then somehow they figure out a way to go to this magical,

religious, sacred ground church to defeat the demon. Okay. Figured this out all on their own. So the scene that killed me, Brian? Okay, so I was okay with this movie. I'm like, uh, we're hovering around, you know, four or five,

whatever, right? And I thought, it's not horrible. The scene that killed me, Brian, is when that magical lady earlier, right? She said, trust the 24-hour fitness places, right? They'll let you park all night, da-da-da. I don't know about you guys, but whenever I've had a gym membership,

they make you sign up for multiple months. You're not allowed to just walk into a gym and, like, pay for one day to run on a treadmill and then leave, am I right? No, she's, you can park into parking. lot. I know, but the dude was running on a fucking treadmill in there, right? Maybe he had a membership. You don't know what his life. I guess. I guess. But what killed me? My car has been broken into, well, it was a work fan at the time. Right. When I used to go to the

gym every day. Oh, that's right. That's right. Philip, you have a story. Broken into fucking three time. Like the gym parking lot is not a good place to hang out. There you go. Why are you telling me like I gave this? You gave this movie a 10. Why are you parking in front of the gym, Brian? Brian, didn't you give us a 10? It is a good place to take shower. I gave it a 10, Lance.

All right, all right. That being said, what killed me, all kidding aside, what broke me with this movie is when she leaves the gym and she's walking and walking and she closes her eyes or turns around and the fucking van is like three spaces ahead. And then she closes her eyes or turns around

and oh my god oh my god oh my god something's after me and the van is fucking five spaces ahead i'm like how does this fucking van keep moving seriously it's a ghost fan is it a ghost fan is it a demon right it's a demon playing with her mind oh okay yeah well that makes sense then all right what else brian land lands wants realism brian loves the movie so you know well dude might be realism that might be something that we learn about the aliens. I don't know if they're demons, but I think it's going to change the way that we think about reality. Let's talk more about that, dude.

Alternate dimension, man, I'm telling you. What's the latest and greatest fell up on the aliens, man? Because this movie fucking sucked. It blew. All right. I'm going to tell you, the latest information from Lou Alizando, if you know who that guy is. I fucking straight up government op

but might be telling you truth. Okay. He's a guy that's worked with the government for a long time. A lot of these dudes in the know keep talking about not extraterrestrials but interdimensional. Oh, yes. That makes sense. That makes sense. I can see that.

have always been here and maybe it is the basis for all of the religions I don't know what what that means and what's true I know what I believe but I'm trying to

put all the pieces together and maybe some of these demons are real fucking Alistair Crowley fun fact drew a picture of a demon that he summoned during during his demonic...

Alastair Crowley, famous Satanist. Of course. Yeah, okay. Drew a picture of a demon that he supposedly summoned. I can't remember the name of it, but it looks just like a gray alien. That's... Also, the people that started NASA

were buddies with Alistair Crowley. One of them was a fucking Nazi. No, not joking. One of them was a Nazi. Warner Ron Braun was like a project paperclip. Nazi started NASA. And then one of the major rocket scientists at the time was Jack Parsons, who was buddies with Elron Hubbard and Alastair Crowley.

Brian? What do you think? And like legitimately practiced sex rituals, Satanism, stuff like that. I want Brian to sign me in here. There's something to it, dude. I'm telling you, I don't know, it's weird stuff. I'm trying to put pieces together. I don't have the answer. We've heard your spiel. We've heard your speech.

Philip. What do you think? But maybe, I think the aliens and the religion thing all sort of... Okay. Have something to do with each other. Okay. What do you think, Brian? About sex with the rules. About aliens. Aliens? They've been here.

Okay. There you go, Philip. They've been here. They're still here. They walk amongst us. I think. Kind of makes sense. Also might be true. Also might be true. It kind of makes sense.

They're like, they're starting to report on like the different types of aliens, which sound totally silly and I'm not totally buying it. But like the four different types of aliens are the tall whites, the grays, the reptilians, and like bug ones, mantis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That sounds goofy. I don't know that it's true. I don't know if it's goofy, man. I don't know if it's goofy, dude. I know that there's artwork from like ancient.

Egypt. And I know there's talking the Bible about stuff that's coming down from the heavens, right? Ezekiel's wheel. Yeah, true. I mean, you know, it might not be so far out there, to be honest with you, man. It might not be. It might be something that's been around. There is some like medieval paintings with

Jesus being crucified and UFOs in the background. Yeah. Yeah, there's something going on. Yeah, I don't know whether wouldn't be. Well, we all know that they obviously exist, right? I mean, we're not the only planet with life. There's too many fucking galaxies and star systems and there's no fucking way.

We're the only planet, right? Tridacto mummies from Peru. A lot of them, especially the little ones, are silly and fake. But there's some of them that are big, like people-sized, with three toes and elongated heads.

and three fingers and two of them are pregnant and like scientists have looked at these things and they can't figure out what they are but they're not fake huh yeah weird stuff I don't know what that means and I don't know how to fit the puzzle pieces together

but it's something oh man all right well I did know this I know that as always we don't think he has for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns we would love to hear your feedback ideas, even if it deals with aliens. You can reach us at The Horror Returns at

Gmail.com or just go to thehorrorreturns.com. Next week, Brian, what's going on, man? Help me out here. We are talking about the new movie Backrooms as well as the original short films, The Backrooms, which are available on YouTube. So how do we look those up, Brian? Are they all in one place, or do we have to search by...

I will send you the playlist. Okay. Philip, what do you think? Well, at least it's not the Kevin Bacon. No shit. I am super excited about this next week, guys. So we had a super... Okay, what did I say about May, Brian?

I said all the good horror movies come out in May, right? And then we got passenger. Summer, man. And then we got Passenger. Nah, I don't think so. I think the good indie stuff comes out like in April and May. Like, when did the centers come out last year? That was my point last week, right?

April. Yeah, you're right. April, May, right? Like, before the Blackbusters, you know, hog the spotlight. Yeah, before the Blockbusters and not like trying to rush it for the Oscar big stuff. I am super fucking excited about Backroom. I don't know what it is about this trailer. super freaks me out.

I love it. It reminds me of a couple of books I've read. It reminds me of a movie I've seen, so I can't wait, dude. Brian, if you could help us out, man. Looks cool. So we make sure we watch them in order. That'd be great. I will send you guys the playlist. All right.

So, Philip, until the horror returns again. Good night. Early. Hey, Dale. The fucking cap with the Confederate flag.