The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #539: Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City (2021) & Resident Evil (2026)

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

This week, we go back to Raccoon City. Cool of the week includes Lanterns, Reacher, Monster: The Lizzie Borden Story, Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma, and IT: The audiobook. Trailers are Hallowar...rior and Slayground. The podcast spotlight shines on Horror and Gore Podcast. And we get feedback from Krystian Jeziorski, Eric W Roberts, Pat Caruso, Vijay Masih, Jean Sebastien Belisle, Lance the Obscure Movie Guy, and Mark Komarzynski. Thanks for listening!   

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware, this podcast contains major plot spoilers, and the foulest, of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everyone, to the horror returns. You got Lance Pedro and Brian Phillips going to come by. I think we might have a Ness sighting.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I don't know, but what's up with you guys? So, I just getting home from work. So I'm still kind of trying to catch my bearings here, but, it's always a good time to hang out with you guys, you know, decompress a little bit, talk some horror movies. So let's do it. Yeah, let's do it, man. Yeah, I kind of didn't like missing last week,
Starting point is 00:01:28 but there was something I was worried about with AJ and I figured I'd get her checked out at the ER. Everything's good. So I was somebody, one of my friends told me, I was catastrophizing. Right, Pedro? That's right. And, you know, another thing, too, that I wanted to remind you of is that, I, first of all, you did the right thing. You did the right thing, you know, being there for your wife, for your family.
Starting point is 00:01:51 But also, I always talk to people in my job about like self-care. And because here's what was going to happen. Let's say for whatever reason, Lance, you were able to kind of be here. Well, I don't know. I'm glad this didn't happen. But let's say she was by herself in the hospital. Like, we wouldn't have been able to enjoy Lance because you wouldn't have been here. Physically, you would have been here.
Starting point is 00:02:11 But mentally you would. So it's always, I would rather people. take care of themselves first so that they're able to be fully present with for activities like this or any you know more important stuff this this is this is this is this is bullshit that we do for fun there's more important stuff but yeah so i'm glad you i'm glad that she's okay and i'm glad that you know you have peace of mind um and also that you were able to take her business last week because again whether or not you were here or not you wouldn't have been here anyway regardless so um yeah so that's kind of what you're
Starting point is 00:02:44 What I wanted to say is people should take care of themselves first. Yeah. Wise words, right, Brian? Absolutely. All right. So you guys are ready to jump into Cool of the Week? Well, no, I have a question first for you, Lance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Oh, no. So last, no, I'm not going to bring. Are we going to talk Italian? No, no, I'm not going to do that. I don't have the energy for that today. And that's all news anyway. No, no. I wanted to bring, because last week, we had an unprecedented moment.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And we actually gave, see, I didn't want to say like this because then I don't want you to feel pressure to go along with it, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Trimmers got a 10 out of 10 all around the table. Okay. And we had a conversation about it. Would Lance fuck that up? annoying Lance. I said yes, you would have because you tend to be like, you go off in your weird, like, fixation
Starting point is 00:03:36 sometimes about movies. And I feel like that would have fucked up the perfect rating. But with all that said, Lance, what do you give tremors? part one. Oh, man, you guys are going to hate me. Did you get to revisit it? I'm sure you did. Absolutely. Yeah, I watched those.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Okay, so what do you give it? Eight and a half. God, see, I knew it. I knew you were going to. That's a strong, that's a strong score, guys. That's top 10 in a year. Yeah, but it was a 10 out of 10 all the way around. Like, nobody gave anything less than a 10.
Starting point is 00:04:06 That was amazing to see. Wow. What keeps it from being a 10 for you? I don't know, man. it wasn't the most perfect acting. I mean, it was a little cheesy in parts, I thought, man. But I think, I think obviously having that, okay, maybe I'll go nine. The chemistry was amazing between the two main actors.
Starting point is 00:04:27 The chemistry was really good. Chemistry was great. I don't know. I just, I'm not a Michael Gross mark. And that's why my scores are going to continue to go down as we go through these, these tremors movies, because as you guys pointed out, he's in every movie. You pointed that out last week. So, but yeah, I'm a big Kevin Bacon fan.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I thought that it was, I thought that the kid actor was pretty cool, you know, fun to watch the kid actor. Yeah, he shows up in a lot of B movies of that time. I've noticed that. Yeah, I've noticed that. He's got, it looks super familiar. Reba McIntyre was fun, but, guys, she's not an actress. Let's face it, man. But she was having it up, though. Like, she was having it up with, I mean, I think the accent was legit, right?
Starting point is 00:05:10 I think that's how she, I've never really heard talking interviews. I've just heard seeing. I think so. But just being that right wing conservative gun nut, that was all. I just love their chemistry. Michael Gross and her had good chemistry. Yeah. The cast was amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:25 All right. I'll go, I'll go nine. But see, I still wouldn't be. Wouldn't be an like. No, that's okay. For me, attend is tough. I only just changed my score to two movies to attend this year because I'm getting really soft. Brian, can you can you think what they might be?
Starting point is 00:05:39 They're both horror movies. So they're considered horror movies. I cannot even begin to even think what movie you would give a 10 to. The Exorcist and Jaws. The Exorcist and Jaws. I had given those 9.5 in the past. So I think I got five movies now that are a 10. The thing is pretty damn close.
Starting point is 00:06:03 By next year, Brian, I'll have a 10 for the original thing. Well, not the original, right? because that was the thing from outer space or whatever it was called, the cheesy 50s one that it was based on. And of course, it was based on that who goes there, that novella. But yeah, I don't know. It's a strong nine. It is.
Starting point is 00:06:25 It's a fun movie. Yeah, like even, I would say this. First of all, I love tremors and I'm going to stay with my 10 on 10. Good. You should, man. I will say this. I mean, at least for me, I don't know if Brian would agree. Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I do feel like I was influenced by how positive the third channel guys are. Like they're very passionate about horror and they're very, I guess you could say, forgiven in a lot of ways. Yeah, that's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a cool thing.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I mean, and so I will say that once I got kind of caught up in that passion. But it's, I mean, trimers is still great. It's a damn near perfect movie in my eyes. We just wanted to get your rating to see because, you know, you weren't here last week.
Starting point is 00:07:10 So, but yeah, okay. Everybody should still go out and watch trimmers. And the second one was whatever, you know, for a mindless sequel, it was okay. Right, right. Yeah. So I guess you guys, are you guys covering, you guys are covering all of them, right? Yeah. I guess we are because I'll be here as well.
Starting point is 00:07:25 So, okay. So, all right. Well, we're working our way through them now. So I guess I'll get started with the cool of the week. All right. I've been watching, I started lanterns. Brian, you're watching lanterns, right? Yeah, I'm like two episodes behind, but I've been trying to stick with it.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Me too, me too. Yeah, no, it's a very, very good show. The writing's really good. I wouldn't say it's a perfect show because the characters are all kind of unlikable. But I think we're being set up for that, though. I think that's what's happening. So I'm okay with it because that's part of the structure of the story. I think there's a purpose for them being unlikable.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And so that I'm okay with that. But yeah, it's a really, I like the setting. I like that small town setting. I like, what is it, Kyo Chandler, right? Cairo Chandler, I mean, I think he's amazing in that. I mean, he has so much charisma, you know, especially with some of the subtle humor that he has that he has to do. Actually, both of them.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Both of them have, like, is this humor that's very kind of like dark, but also like it's not spoon-fed. you know, so I think that's pretty funny. Like they had a scene where they're in that tower and then, don't give too much away. No, no, no, it's just a quick joke. It's not plot driven or nothing. They're in a tower, right?
Starting point is 00:08:53 And then how Jordan has to fly somewhere, I'm not going to give it away because you're not. Oh, because you probably haven't started, right, Lance? I haven't. I'm trying to get it all. Oh, that's right. Are they all up yet? No, it ends next week. Okay, so it's about that time then.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Anyways, I'm going to butcher it, but you have to see it. The way they delivered it is pretty funny. So how Jordan has to fly over and then John Stewart can fly. So how's like, here, hop on me. Well, I'll fly with, you know, I'll take it. And then John Stewart's like, how's that going to work? And he's like, well, he's like, well, I either carry you like a baby or you pretend I'm a horse and you ride on me. And then John Starr's like, no, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And they cut right there. And that was, see, that's the kind of company the show has, right? And so it's pretty cool. It's just the dynamic between both of them because they pretty much, I mean, at least as far as I've gotten, they have a very tumultuous relationship. That's all I'll say. Okay. So yeah, so it's been my cool of the week. It's not a perfect show I have issues with it, but it's I'm having a great time with it at the same time.
Starting point is 00:09:55 So that's my cool of the week. All right. But hey, couldn't John Stewart like use the ring to think about? No, we're not going to say nothing, Lance. We can't say nothing. Okay. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Fair enough. We'll talk in a couple of weeks then. Yes. So that's Michael of the week. Lanterns. All right. What's you got, Brian? Me and my daughter currently, we are on season seven now, Supernatural.
Starting point is 00:10:22 God damn, dude. You guys are burning through them. Yeah. What else? I'm trying to get through mine real quick. What else? There was a lot of TV because I'm saving all my movies for 31. watched episodes
Starting point is 00:10:39 two and three of the creep tape season three three and four I'm sorry but you said you don't like it as much as season two right episode three
Starting point is 00:10:50 won me back okay because the the setting was a different setting than he's ever done before but then he lost me with episode four
Starting point is 00:11:02 because it was a repeat episode of one from season two like the premise. Okay. Not a lot of originality then, huh? Yeah. So they're kind of all over the place. It seems like they ran out of gas and that's it.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I mean, they seem like they're just scratching for material at this point. Yeah. I mean, they're quick watches. They're like 20 minutes. And there's only going to be like six episodes and they've been releasing them to it at a time each week. So I'm assuming.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And it's crazy because you can't, you can't even really build up to him getting his comeuppance because he already got him in creep two. So it's you can't even build up to that. It's literally just the next person he manipulated and then killed in some wacky way and then, you know, watch rinse repeat. And you can't even really get out of that because that was already answered in, in the movie, in the sequel. Yeah. So. And I guess my cool of the week, I finished, I started and finished the new season of Monster, the Lizzie. Borden story. Oh, AJ's watching that as we speak in the other room. Yeah, I didn't know that was
Starting point is 00:12:14 Annette Benning and Warren Beatty's daughter who's playing Lizzie Borden. Really? But now when I look at her, she looks like Warren Bady. Oh, well, it depends whatever of Warren Bady, and then I'll give it to you. I guess that's true. You're like a Dick Tracy or heaven can wait? I guess heaven can wait. But I enjoyed it. The acting was decent. Of course, it's a dramatized, romanticized version of the story. It's not going to be 100% accurate. But without spoiling it, Sarah Paulson plays Eileen Worros. Is that how in Saran?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Yeah, I saw that. I caught that pop up when E.2 was watching it. I kind of want that to be the next season. maybe it will be so is this Ryan Murphy that's doing these yeah Ryan Murphy that's his people he uses them a lot the cast
Starting point is 00:13:16 Henry Winkler's son is the director and I think he was the director of the Edgine one two okay okay so knocked it out it was a quick easy watch and
Starting point is 00:13:32 yeah it was pretty good all right Yeah, a lot of people are watching that, man. Are you guys excited about American Horror Story 13? I am. I'm curious because it's like they assemble the Avengers of the American Horror Story World. But I think they've done that before, though. They've already done that in the, what was the one in the apocalypse?
Starting point is 00:13:55 I think it was. They brought the witches back and they brought the horror house back. I guess they did, didn't they? I feel like they've already gone to that while where they bring the off the Starkey. I think you're right, man. They're kind of running out of ideas. I'm using outdated references. We're really outdated ourselves now with the gone to the well too many times.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I'm also curious and seeing if it was it the money truck or was it the story that brought Glenn Close back? I don't know. She was done. Yeah. The series. I don't know. Maybe she just enjoys the show creators, you know? Maybe they work well together.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Who knows? And they're going to be shorter episodes when I understand. They're going to be like 30-minute episodes. I don't know about that. What do you think about that, Pedro? I mean, I don't mind. I mean, I'm not excited for it. I think this show peaked years ago.
Starting point is 00:14:51 So I haven't even watched... Like season three, maybe? No, not that long ago. There was some good stuff in the middle. Right. Like, I like Apocalypse quite a bit. I thought that was a cool season. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And that was a... That New York one was. I never saw that one. I never saw that one either. I tapped out like second or third episode. Yeah, that was the supposedly they were trying to do it like, what's it called, the Alpachino movie from the 70s, Billy Friedkin won.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Oh, I know what you're talking about. Where it's like kind of like going to the gay clubs. Yeah, cruising. Cruising. It was supposed to be like cruising a little bit. What you got, Lance? Well, you called it, Brian. you told me I was going to enjoy this movie and you were right.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Is it going to be number one? No. It's not going to be an obsession. And there may be a couple more above it. But I don't know if you've seen this when Pedro, or teenage sex and death at Camp Me. I did see it. I saw it in the movie theaters.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I'm a, I'm an AMC stuff member. I wish I had. I always have to find ways. Oh, so you like this movie. Okay. I fucking loved it, dude. There was a slasher movie that I know. I think Lance would like it would be that one.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Yeah, the music was just perfect spot on. I thought the songs from the soundtrack were amazing. I love what they did with the, like, the surreal, like, set up and look of the snow and the mountains in the background and the cabins. So you love this, but you don't like the beyond's surrealness and lack of explanation. No, the beyond felt like it was like a six-year-old boy. All right. That's just my opinion.
Starting point is 00:16:34 just my opinion man but but this one i mean it tackled a lot of a lot of big issues but but without like hitting you over the head with it like a lot of sexual confusion uh a lot of it was it was pretty pretentious in my opinion it was you thought so yeah a lot of it was very spoon fed yeah i just like seeing i also like seeing gillian anderson channeling dolly parton the way she did like that that uh that accent was spot on Dolly. And maybe that's just because I watched a whole bunch of Dolly movies the last two weeks. No, but I would give you this. The visuals were amazing.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I did like the visuals. I like the story, too. I mean, I enjoyed the movie. But I couldn't call it. It's not one of my, it wouldn't be in my top 10. And it's not a movie that I'm going to revisit anytime. So neither just because it's, again, it's very pretentious, kind of meta a little bit.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Sure. Which I don't mind. But if. if it's the right movie. And yeah, and this filmmaker, I mean, I don't know if their pronouns are they them. I think they are. They tend to just very much do movies for themselves, you know?
Starting point is 00:17:46 I saw the TV. I don't know about that. I really enjoyed it. I'm sure a lot of other people did too, man. Got a lot out of it. Okay. Yeah, I really liked. I saw the TV glow too, man.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Now that first movie, what is it called? We're all going to the World's Fair. That lost me. But, you know, I mean, that was their first feature, right? Yeah. So you got to give them, give up one mulligan, I guess. What did you think about the music, though, Pedro? Like the songs that they put in there?
Starting point is 00:18:14 No, I had it had good quality. It was a good movie. Again, it was a good movie. But I could also see the pretentiousness of it and okay, we get it. This is how you, this is your, what you've gone through, you know, and you're projecting a lot of this stuff, which, again, a lot of filmmakers do that. A lot of film, and some of these films are great. but yeah I don't see myself watching it again but it's I'm just I mean I'm glad you liked it
Starting point is 00:18:35 I mean because you're right a lot of people did like it so um and and they got good reviews and it also made a little money too it wasn't it wasn't a total flop and it was because it was in the theaters for a while um yeah it was hard it was hard to find uh well it's hard to rent uh over the tv for a little bit okay if you know what I'm saying yes I do so uh but yeah I enjoyed it man I'm I'm really glad I watched it's probably one that I would I would would would a couple more times, you know? I feel like I might get a little bit more out of it. I just thought that, I thought Gillian Anderson was, was probably the takeaway.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I like the chick from Hacks that was in it. I was trying to think, what, what do I know her from? But yeah, I, I enjoyed it. It'll be in my top 10, man, you know, pretentious, maybe, I don't know, maybe a little bit. Like I said, I'll, I'll definitely rewatch it. I'll try to rewatch it before the end of the year and see if my, opinion changes a little bit. But I wasn't, I think I was expected to like it, but I was also a little worried because I really disliked that first film so much. So yeah, but you like the second one though.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, I loved the message in it. I wonder what you're going to think when you see buddy? That's that one in my top. Dude, I am trying so hard to find buddy right now. That one is in my top 10. And it's like it also has very surrealism. Okay. Not as much as this one you're talking about. But yeah, it's in there. So we'll see. We'll see what happens when you watch it, because that's in my top 10 for sure. I can't wait, dude. The way you were talking it up last week, man, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:20:10 I'm all in. I know I'm going to love buddy, which means I'll probably be disappointed, right? Maybe. If history tells us, tells us anything, yeah, you probably will be. We'll see. We'll see. All right. That's cool of the week.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Now it's time for horror headlines brought to you by Brian. All right. We're going to start out with Gremlin's 3 delayed. The long way to sequel has been pushed back from November 2027 to October 6, 28. Well, we don't need it. That's the thing. We don't need this movie. Why are we having... Is Donald Trump going to show up at this one? Who's behind this? Like, is this... Chris Columbus.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Steven Spielberg. Jesus Christ. We already determined Spielberg's off the rails, right, Pedro? Yeah, yeah, from this last movie, which I was here thinking he was going to tell us that aliens were real as in real life, aliens. So did Philip. Philip had his popcorn bought. Philip already had his ticket six months in advance.
Starting point is 00:21:23 No, I mean, are they going to bring us, what's his name, Sack Galligan back or? Oh, God. Is he still alive? What is he doing? What do we mean not confirm? It's not like he's setting the world on fire right now. Corey, no, yeah, Corrie Feldman was in the first one, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:42 It wasn't in the second one. Was he? I don't remember filming in it. It's been a while. It's been a while. I don't remember. The kid that worked at the, what was it, the Christmas tree thing? Yeah, he was in it.
Starting point is 00:21:56 All right. I haven't seen it in a long time. It's just kind of a hard sell to me. because the second one was a parody of the first one. Like the second one was telling us, look at how ridiculous the first one was, that we're going to make a second one that's just kind of making fun of all that.
Starting point is 00:22:11 And here we are in all of a sudden, we're supposed to accept the third one. But it seems like they're having a hard time getting it off the ground. Is it going to be like Blade? Like, or we're going to wait. Oh, no. Have you guys noticed that
Starting point is 00:22:26 Marshala Ali's next movie is him playing an assassin that uses a sword and it's not he trained for a year yeah but it's also directed by the the first director they had for the blade movie yeah it's a big fuck you to Kevin Feigy for fucking it up is what it is
Starting point is 00:22:48 sounds like I just watched an interview because I guess Kevin Feigy says he feels like a complete loser and failure for getting that movie up and then I saw an interview with Marshala And he was like, yeah, I agree. Well, yeah, he said that. No, no, but he didn't, he wasn't as simple as Brian said.
Starting point is 00:23:08 You could tell he's very resentful just by the way that interview went, because I saw the same interview. And he's, he's pissed off about it because he said he worked for a whole year to become assortment. Yeah. And he was just waiting. And you also know he probably had to say no to a couple projects, right? Just because of the nature of his job. I think I heard him a few. He had to say this.
Starting point is 00:23:27 So, so he said to a lot of projects. So there's also that part I mean the guys he's a multimillioner But still the the art part of it is like He had to say no to a few movies And he had to train for a year And I think he even got hurt while he was training for this movie Oh wow
Starting point is 00:23:41 And he stayed he's like that's a billion dollar company And then they had like a You know Academy Award winning actor attached to it And they do nothing so yeah Kevin Faggie He should be a feel like a loser because that's what he is For not getting this movie off the ground How do you really feel Pedro No, I mean, that's what Marshal Ali said.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I mean, I was upset too. Okay, those are his words. I got you. I'm actually going to go watch a vengeance encore tomorrow. So I have tickets for tomorrow night. Oh, nice. All right. It's going to be nice to revisit that movie in the theaters.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Are you going, Brian? No, they got enough of my money. I mean, I mean, the thing. See, here's the deal. Like, yeah, they promise that bonus footage. That bonus footage is already online. So people want to see it. they could find it online and clear you know perfect it is not it's not scratched up or anything right but to me
Starting point is 00:24:35 it's like that was always going to be a bonus to me i want to go see this movie in the theater again because in 2019 it was a great experience with a bit with a big crowd you know marking out for the right spots you know um getting excited so that's why i'm going but you know these these bonus scenes um which is which are four post credit scenes they're already out there okay um people could find them online they don't have to go you know but i'm i'm i'm I'm going for just for the experience. You're in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:01 No, I don't blame you. It sounds like a fun time. So that was pre-COVID when that movie came out? Yeah, 2019. Wow. Time flies, huh? And I remember thinking when that movie was over, when I was first, I remember thinking, how the fuck are they going to top this?
Starting point is 00:25:17 And I was right. They never really topped it. And you were kind of right. So anyways. But yeah. All right. Godzilla. minus zero has just become the first film in the 72 year old franchise history to receive an R rating.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Okay. Interesting. That's going to, in theory, is going to cause their money because some of the, you know, if you're under 13 or whatever, you can't go in. In theory, right? In theory. Nobody enforces that shit anymore. No. I think, Brian, you used to sneak in when you were five, right?
Starting point is 00:25:56 Oh, yeah. I don't know what I was doing at the theater when I was five. But you were there? Yeah. Godzilla minus zero hits theaters in North America, November 6. Oh, I'll be there. I know Brian's not a big fan of the first one. I remember that because Brian wants the spectacle of it all.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And it seems like in this one, Brian's going to get his wish because it's going to be more spectacle. Okay. know with a less human interest story yeah the teaser sold me on this one yeah because I think this one's supposed to have a king of dora in it so
Starting point is 00:26:36 nice all right they they yeah they teased it with the yellow lightning and then the they the scream or whatever the growl of the monster um so it seems like it's going to be more of a spectacle more of a more of a Americanized version of Godzilla
Starting point is 00:26:52 I don't know if they're going to have anybody extracting a tooth out of the animal but Dan Stevens Bisham it. But is it a, I don't know, we'll see what we get. Let's see. Resident Evil producer Roy
Starting point is 00:27:08 Lee is attached to a fresh reboot of the iconic franchise Silent Hill. Oh boy. How many times have they tried with that movie? Jesus Christ on that franchise. But without getting into our reviews, does it
Starting point is 00:27:24 make you feel a little bit better that the people that worked on the new Resident Evil are involved in rebooting the Silent Hill series. Yes. I mean, but when you're at like one
Starting point is 00:27:40 on 10, you could only go up. That's not saying much. That's true. But yes, I am. One of 10. And you guys say, I'm brutal. Damn, Pedro. That last Silent Hill movie,
Starting point is 00:27:54 was horrible. They all were, man. They haven't done a good one yet. The first one was decent. Yeah, by the same guy that did this last one, which is weird. Let's see. They Follow has officially rep filming. All right. Okay, well, we'll see. That's the Evil Dead Burn guy, right? No, that's that... The...
Starting point is 00:28:22 There was something they did research. Oak Street. The end of Oak Street. Which ended up being a big flop at the end of the day, unfortunately. Yeah, I had fun with it, though. I did too. It was a good movie.
Starting point is 00:28:34 David Robert Mitchell. Yeah, it was the French guy that did that bug movie for a show. That's right. The spider movie. The spider movie, yeah. Okay. I'm with you. Okay. And this hit news today,
Starting point is 00:28:51 Mike P. Nelson, who did the wrong turn remake and Silent Night, Deadly Night remake is doing the next Saw movie. Hmm. I don't know what to think about that. I don't either.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Because you know what? He's, I feel like he's elevated those lesser known franchises. Like, I like his wrong turn remake. I did too. And I like his silent
Starting point is 00:29:13 Deli Night remake. That's my famous story on this show about that stupid drunk guy that fucked it up for me. That's right. But, but I've seen it since. I've seen it since.
Starting point is 00:29:24 It's a good movie. It's a different. take. So those lesser known franchises, yes, you know, this guy has done a relatively good job, but what is he going to do with Saw? That's Saw, now he's in the big leagues. Let him do Silent Hill.
Starting point is 00:29:40 So we'll see what is Mike P. Nelson has in store for Saw, because those are big shoes to fill right there. You guys remember this is now under Blumhouse. Yes, which is concerning. And that is all the news.
Starting point is 00:30:00 All right. Then I guess now it's time to take that little trip down to the trailer park. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird, like Camp Miasma. But what you got this week, Brian? The first one of our two Halloween-themed trailers is Hollow Warrior. Not sure what to think. of this. This is directed by Ben Scottick
Starting point is 00:30:30 and stars Millie Shapiro from Hereditary. What'd you guys? I just skim for the trailers because I got here late, so yeah, you guys cover them and yeah. Well, you can watch them while we talk. I've done that a couple
Starting point is 00:30:49 of times before. What did you think, Lance? I don't know, man. I mean, it's kind of weird looking. it's interesting. Like at first it was very interesting. And I thought, because she said something in there like, I'm the girl at the end of the world, but I still celebrate Halloween or something like that. You know, and then you have these like traditional ghosts popping up, right?
Starting point is 00:31:12 Like the person in the sheet type thing, like in the ghost story. And then you start seeing like really weird things. Like now she's interacting with people, but I thought she was the last girl on the world. So how do we get to that? And then there's like a baghead type character outside. Kind of like it looks like either a serial killer or a monster with a bag over the head. And then you see some other weird stuff. And I don't know why every time it showed her, like there was weird trailers behind her.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Like maybe she was tripping out on acid. Because a lot of times... Maybe she had some bad Halloween candy. That's what I'm saying. Allegedly, I don't know if there's any truth to this, folks. But allegedly, you know, when you do certain psychedelics, you can see tracers. behind movement. I thought you were going to say
Starting point is 00:31:58 when you do certain kinds of Halloween candy. It could be. What did you think, Brian? I'm kind of confused, man. I'm interested with the whole post-apocalyptic setting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I'm assuming she celebrates Halloween because that was her favorite holiday and that's what she holds on to being the only person. But how does she really know she's the only girl left, the only person left. How would anybody really know?
Starting point is 00:32:29 The world's so big, even if there's a one to love you. That's always the question. Even that TV show, the last man in the world or whatever, right? By halfway through season one, he was surrounded by people. Remember that? People in episode two of season one. Oh, geez. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:48 What do you think, Pedro? Did you get a chance to watch it? Yeah, yeah. It's a little pretentious looking. It seems like it's one of those after. strike kind of movies that kind of like the one you were just talking about, you know? Sure. I was thinking if this young lady processing her being a lesbian and having her first orgasm for the first time, like that other, like the movie you like right now that you gave a 10 on 10.
Starting point is 00:33:10 It seems like that's what was happening in this trailer. I didn't give it a 10 of 10. Let's calm down a little bit now. Come on. No, you said it was going to be in your top 10. That's what you said. It'll be in the top 10. Yeah. I think. Well, we don't know. We got we don't know left out of the year. Yeah. We don't. Maybe this hollow warrior will capture your heart. Very well might kick it out, man. Very well might. It also seems like only the director knows what's going on.
Starting point is 00:33:34 It seems that way. Yeah. I mean, it has the girl from Herritory, which she kind of looks kind of weird as it just like as is, which is, you know. Right, right. But yeah, I mean, I'm going to watch it. I like these kind of movies, you know, to see them one time.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Probably be on streaming. I don't think it's going to get a theatrical. Yeah, it hits Shudder on October. 16th. Okay. So we can watch it for our 31 days, Brian. Yeah. So Brian, do you think, did you get the impression? This is one of those where if somebody asked the director, what was that movie about? The director says, what do you think it was about? Oh, I hate those. Oh, absolutely. The Ed Follows guy does that a lot. The one we're just talking about. Of course, of course. So let me ask you guys something,
Starting point is 00:34:19 because you guys are about to go into your 31 days. How, what kind of, what kind of a theme are you Is the movies you guys already watched already? Like, are you guys going to follow any specific theme this year? Or anything to specifically, or is it movies that you haven't watched yet? Is there any rules that you guys are going to try to go by? Well, my specific 31 days is always 2020 or whatever year it is releases. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:46 And then I do a separate 31 with my daughter. Right. And we found a little. like one day would be like a bad remake the second day would be like a high-tech horror oh okay cool yeah so technically i'm doing 60 plus right right oh man well there is no way in hell i'm going to do 60 plus what about you guys is there any is there any rules you're gonna abide by this year it just kind of free flow you know the last four years in a row i think i have done only movies that came out that year.
Starting point is 00:35:25 So I think I might stick with that. It served me pretty well, you know, to get kind of caught up. But now I'm kind of liking Brian's idea about the, it's almost like spinning the wheel. You know what I'm saying? Like if there's an app I could find where you like, you know, pick a horror genre, right? And you click the button and watch that kind of movie. That might be fun. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I'm rethinking it now. But I usually try to go with stuff from this year. Okay. All right. Are you doing a theme, Patreon? Yeah, but I'm doing the opposite. I'm going to do a bunch of revisits, but like revisits that I haven't watched in a long time
Starting point is 00:36:01 because there's a lot of them. Like beyond? No, I actually just saw that one again last week because I was trying, I was going to defend it on this show, but I'm too lazy to do it now. I was going to ask, how is your nap? See, what I mean? Come on. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I was thinking about our, the fans of this show. Like, they were probably so upset. Like, God damn it. Anyways. But, but no, I'm going to watch older movies. I also have, I still collect physical media. And I probably have, I don't know, thousands of films here, like DVDs, Blu-rays, 4-Ks.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Because I have a whole bedroom just with my physical media. So I have a lot of movies. So I want to start kind of going into those, like just pulling stuff out from horror that I haven't seen in years and just, you know, watching that. So that's kind of what I'm going to do. Nice. Yeah. They're so old that I don't even remember watching them.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Not old in age, just that I haven't seen them in a long time. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I can think of a few like that, you know, but I don't really do the physical media thing anymore. We've moved to this like kind of much smaller house in Florida, right? No, it's hard. Because the space becomes a thing. The space becomes an issue, you know, I live alone.
Starting point is 00:37:16 So I have the extra bedroom to be able to put stuff in there. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. So, but I could see how people, why people would struggle with that because it does take a lot of space to do it, you know. But then again, you start seeing what's happening with streaming, how they're cutting libraries off out of the blue. And it's like, I'm going to have my little library here of physical media that's never going to go away. Wait till AI starts rewriting film history and like saying, no, that never happened.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Mandela affecting all our favorite movies. Well, look at now, look at now, Crocodile Dundee got re-edited. did it you know recently for for streaming to make it to make it less to make it more sensitive or what well no i think i think he says a couple things that are non-pc nowadays that's what i was thinking and they re-edited that that's not a no i but i have but i have my blu-ray of both part one and two not part three people don't know as a part three but they're not part three oh is that the los angeles one or whatever yeah that one yeah you remember that's pretty rough so i have my my My Blu-rays, you know, they're not censor whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Okay. You know what's going to piss me off, and I don't know if they've done this or not. If I go watch Avengers Encore tomorrow and they recut Ant Man's daughter, because, you know, they switched them up. Oh, they may do that, dude. Yeah, they make for it. It's not the girl that comes out later on, you know, the, your next part two girl, what I forget her name. But anyways, if they do that, I'm going to be pretty upset. Don't be surprised if they do, dude.
Starting point is 00:38:45 That's like a George Lucas thing, you know. Yeah, I think they. very well might. I guess we'll see. Because she's in Doomsday. I've seen her in the trailers. Uh-huh. Okay. But anyways, that's my plan. So yeah, so I'm looking forward to listening to you guys go over your list and maybe I'll get some of them along the way and maybe Hollow Warrior will be in it. So we'll see. All right. It may be. Why not? Why not? You got one more teaser this time. Okay. And this is from Jeremy Solner and it is. Slayground
Starting point is 00:39:19 Jeremy Solner did Blue Ruin Green Room Thought so Rebel Ridge Okay I don't know
Starting point is 00:39:32 What to think of this teaser But And from what I Sorry page From what I It's weird Some
Starting point is 00:39:39 First what I understand That's not like Captured footage Of people That's Scenes of the movie I got that Impression
Starting point is 00:39:50 Right I don't know. I thought it was going to be like a documentary. I guess give it time. It's just a teaser, right? I feel like it's one of those like Hollywood Hollywood Horror Night Mases, you know? Like you're walking through all that. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And it's like, yeah. How was your trip back? I said it in the last week's show. You couldn't pay me to go back to Halloween Horror. I heard you. Yeah, I heard you talking about it. I think you. I think you kind of got a rise out of them when you said that.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Did you know they go like twice a fucking week? No, I do it. But I also made it clear that. You're respectful. Yeah, I'm happy they're still doing it because I check out Derek's stories and he's It seems like he goes daily, which is come on. It seems that way, doesn't it? They go Thursdays and Sundays mostly, I think.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah, but how was your last visit? Did you enjoy it? It was a lot of fun. Well, first let me say this real quick. forget, because I got that old head thing going. So look, this movie's already been done, right?
Starting point is 00:40:57 What was that movie, Brian? That we covered it for the show about four years ago where they're like trapped in a haunted house and the guys are actually... The writer got mad at me when I posted. Someone asked me what I thought of the movie. Yeah, I think so. You remember that, Pedro?
Starting point is 00:41:13 Hellfast. Yeah, hellfast. There was another one too, like this, right? There's been several, I think. I don't know. I don't know what to think. Anyway, yeah, horror night. No, horror nights was great, but we didn't get to do all the houses, because, you know, you really never can, but Senors, Senors was a pretty cool, pretty cool haunt. We did that. Stranger Things really surprised me, because I thought it's going to be really mild, you know, like for younger kids and stuff like that. It seems like they have one every year.
Starting point is 00:41:49 but depending on the season. Yeah, it was season five, and it was pretty intense, man. I don't know if they just started more aggressive theater kids working in that in that haunt or whatever, but man, they were like in your face. So I always liked that when they were real interactive. Kind of like when you and I went into that one in Salem. I went to find our way out. Literally close.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Well, no, they were holding the door shut on us. Did you notice that? Why would they do that? That was mean. I was kind of surprised. I thought we were going to be in one of those murder. houses. But no, I think the, well, of course it's always fun to walk around, right? The different, like they call them scare zones where they have, you know, walking. Do you run into Nikki from
Starting point is 00:42:30 obsession? Didn't run into her, unfortunately. She was probably in a corner P in herself or something, but the Jack and Oddfellows, like it was like a circus type thing, and you would go through, and they had like these, like these hallways you could go down, and they're super bright colors, like psychedelic colors and it was spinning. So you were walking straight, but your brain kind of thought you were going to the side while you were walking. And a lot of people were kind of like, you know, tripping over themselves and stuff. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Kind of like being in an old haunted carnival or something. So, yeah, I'd give it high marks, you know. Did you guys get to go on the terrifier tram ride? No. What was that? I didn't hear about that. Maybe that's only for us for here in L.A. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I wish I'd heard about a tirfired. terrify her tram ride, man. What's that all about? Well, right here, because we're in Hollywood, we get the, they have the back lot tour in Universal Studios where they film all the movies and stuff. Okay, they still have that. Do they have the Joe's shark still coming up? Yeah, all that stuff is still there.
Starting point is 00:43:34 But during Halloween Horn nights, they make it, they turn into a theme. You know, like, like, like one year it was all of Jordan Peel's movies. Like, you're walking through the tram and you're seeing like people from us. you know, you're seeing the set from Nope, all that stuff. It was pretty cool, actually. This year is supposed to be like terrifier. Like you're walking through like the terrifier, like all the movies and stuff and all the sets. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yeah. Yeah, they don't have. I don't know why. I don't go anymore. So, but that's what I hear. You wouldn't make an exception, Pedro? It's just too many people and too many. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I get overwhelmed by like people, people bitching and, oh. Right. And then you look at these prices, like just to park is like 40 bucks and. True. True. You know what? You know what I started thinking about how the goal of these activities is to separate you from your money. That's it. That is the goal of these activities. And I start thinking about like simply. Yeah. Yeah. I start thinking about all this fucking how they're trying to con us out of our money with every little fucking thing they charge you. Sure. including trying to go into the houses quicker because that's an extra charge right there. Oh, that's right. The VIP tour or whatever they called it. So that starts to consume my brain and I start getting upset and then I just don't want to be there.
Starting point is 00:44:59 No, I get it. I get it. And then all these people trying to take selfies. Like why? What is that, you know? I'm just old. I'm getting old. I'm getting to that point. So that's all it is. You know? If you say so, man. Yeah. But I did it, but I went for about. I don't know, 14, 15 years straight. So I paid my dues. Well, it was fun.
Starting point is 00:45:18 You burned out then. It was fun while last then, you know. I will, this is just my third year to go. So bear that in mind, man. That's right. That's, yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:27 it's still, it's still fresh. The dew is still on the rose. You know what I mean? But you got these third channel guys going every other day. I'm like, what is there to do after a while? You've done it all.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Like you turn every new thing. You can hang out. You know, you can hang out. Yes, that's true. I do, I will tell you this. I go to Disney so frequently, guys, because a lot of the times, like, if AJ's working on a Sunday, I'll go to one of the parks. And I'm literally to the part where I know some of the cast members.
Starting point is 00:45:55 So that's probably the case with them. Wait a minute. Like, you know them without their, without their costume? Like, just the actual people? Yeah, it's like just people that work there, man. You go there a lot. I go there a lot. I really do.
Starting point is 00:46:10 That, yeah, no, that tells me you go there a lot. for you to be at that point where you know these people out of costume. Well, like the ticket, like the ticket taker at Animal Kingdom. I think I've, I think I've seen this one person like three different times. They're not just letting you in now. What's that? They're not just letting you and AJ in now. They should.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Hey, Lance, don't worry about it. Just going on through. Or kind of like sneak around the back like a water park shark. Have you all seen that one yet? No. Brian, you might want to add it to your 31 days, man, just to just to see it. Oh, that's right. There's some movie, but yeah, I've seen, I've seen it for rent, but I haven't, I haven't, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah, it's not good. But, um, there's, there's probably like eight or nine shark movies out right now, it seems like it's. Well, this is a lot of course. I don't think there's a lot of them. A lot of people say, what is it called deep blue sea, the one would. Oh, I like that one. They're right. They're correct on that.
Starting point is 00:47:13 call that one. I like the shallows. Oh, I love the shallows. Yeah, that's a good one. That Rennie Harlan one that just came out. I liked that's on the theater. I thought it was fun. It wasn't great. It was fun. The one with the Ant Man's daughter. Yeah. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:47:29 No, no, not that one. Not that one. That was, was yeah, no, not that one. I forget the name. That was on Prime. That was on Amazon Prime. Okay. Okay. So there's a new one out now. I'll have to check it out. You're not talking about that Jonah and the Whale or whatever thing. are you? No, come on.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Okay. Are you talking about the one with Two-face front? Yes, that one. That one. I really enjoyed that one. That one's on my 31 list. Okay, yeah, we'll see. If you can remember the name, Pedro, let me know.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Deepwater. Yeah. Deep water. Okay. I think I've heard of that one. Only because it was directed by Rennie Harlan that I go see it in the theater. And yeah, it was fun. Did he redeem him? after the strangers? Yeah. I mean, he was...
Starting point is 00:48:16 He just... I don't know why he did those fucking three movies, but... Oh, yeah, you know, he needed... And you know what's funny is that he brought that to the table. It's not like he was hired to do. That was his baby. But I don't know. He needed to buy a new house.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Probably, yeah. All right, sleigh ground. Slayground. Expected 2026. I'm here in next month. In theaters. over streaming, I don't know. Probably streaming. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:49 You guys ready for listener feedback? Yep. Listener feedback this week, the podcast spotlight shines on Horror and Gore podcast. What a name, right, Pedro? Horror and Gore podcast. Let's see, on the Horror and Gore podcast,
Starting point is 00:49:05 Dakota, Nick, and Dylan, talk about horror movies and horror news. Sorry, folks, that's the best description I could find. I'm not going to say nothing because I don't want people to say I'm always talking shit about these fucking. You know, I will say something positive about this part of the show. I did like how you guys brought up that podcast where they give you an original song after every show. That was awesome. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I got to check that out because that's pretty cool. Like that's what I'm looking for. You know, that's what I want to hear. None of this, oh, you know, the guy and the girl, one sees one movie, the other sees the other movie. And they talk about it. Okay, cool. Welcome to the 25,000 other podcasts that do that. I hear you.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Including the horror returns, right? That's right. In all fairness. Okay. All right. Let's see. Moving on. Christian Jazearski said,
Starting point is 00:49:59 New Friday of the 13th movie in the works. Now, I think they're putting us on, right? Because isn't this the franchise that they're never going to? This was a posting, Jessica Roth from Happy Death Day. said she wants to be in the next one. Ah, okay. So they're just kind of... And I kind of feel like...
Starting point is 00:50:20 I kind of feel like they've been talking to her, and she's kind of putting it out there. That'd be interesting. Well, now that Victor Miller passed away, a lot of that core drama, it seems like it's over with, and they have that Jason... They have the Jason Universe people that are kind of controlling the IPs,
Starting point is 00:50:37 so we might get it, you know? I think maybe they want to see how Crystal Lake does and what kind of vibe. Okay. You know, which I'm really excited for and I'm really looking forward to it. So we'll see. Linda Cardonelli. Is such a dumb name.
Starting point is 00:50:51 What's that? Jason Universe is such a dumb name. Yeah, it's not very original, is it? Well, what else would we call it? By law, they can say Friday the 13, so that's out the window. Okay, well. Because I think Saturday of the 14th. Oh, there was a movie called Saturday the 14th.
Starting point is 00:51:09 What's in there? Yes, there was. Remember, there's a scene in that movie where they're fishing. And then one of them, because it's a parody movie. One of them finds the Jason mask from the lake. And it's like, this is harmless. And then she's like, what day is it? Saturday, the 14th.
Starting point is 00:51:27 That's supposed to be the joke that, you know, Jason's harmless. Okay. Saturday the 14. Regarding the poster for Frogman Returns, Tom Clark says that's totally awesome well frogman part one really got over it was one of the best like found footage movies of I think it was last year or two years ago so
Starting point is 00:51:53 was it okay I missed that one see maybe I'll need to try to add that that to the 31 days because that was it's a it's a good movie it's a good little movie I like it okay yeah I enjoyed it it had a big it brought up a big cold following from you know from when it came out. Ah, well, then it makes sense, right? All right. Regarding the Nightbreed T-shirt design, let's see.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Eric W. Roberts says, this is my favorite Jasper design Steve has done. Strong words. Okay. All right. Yeah, the Nightbreed, it's got the whole cast there. Even, what's his name, Moon Man or whatever? That guy with the moon face.
Starting point is 00:52:34 regarding Kerry, Pat Caruso says, can't wait to watch this. You guys excited for this one? No. No, same story. No, you know what? It's Mike Flanagan, so that's a positive. It's in modern times. So I think I think, I think, I think,
Starting point is 00:52:54 I want to believe that he's using the shell of the Carrie story and he's going to say a fresh story because I think the theme of the show from what he said in interviews and just from the trailer is like how like social media has like really hurt a lot of the of the you know adolescents you know in high school and with their self image and whatnot so yeah I mean from that perspective it is going to be something fresh something new so I'm going to check it out but but if they try to tell like a beat by beat story of carry how do you stretch that out for eight episodes that's gonna just lag you know I mean right right unless they thread that line of trying to give us some
Starting point is 00:53:33 sort of explanation for what Carrie does, you know, then that's when it gets dumb. Well, we are-a-do- shit like that. We, okay, so we already know from the trailer, right, that they're going to have the pig's blood scene. So do you guys think they're going to do that at the very end or maybe like second episode and really do a twist? Hmm. That would be interesting, like the aftermath, right?
Starting point is 00:53:55 Maybe. I don't know. But doesn't she, but she dies relatively quick. Maybe not in the after. Maybe not in Flanagan's universe. you know? Maybe. I don't know. I mean, if you're saying we're going to twist it, let's twist it. I don't know. And right now it's pretty trendy to twist it. So I'll say that. So.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Yeah. Well, we'll see, ma'am. Yeah, I definitely got the social media vibe from the trailer. That's for sure. When is that premiere? Brian, do you know? October 7th. And they're dropping the entire series. And where's this at? I don't have to wait there. Okay, so that's going to be around this. It's going to be a week before Crystal Lake. Yeah. That's kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Are you guys going to, are you guys going to, are you, I have a question for you guys. Are you guys going to watch Perry and Crystal Lake and count it as two entries? No, that's separate. Yeah, I don't think so. That's not really in the, in the rules. But we'll watch them for sure. No, because they're both going to drop, they're going to drop all the episodes at once before both of them. Crystal Lake also?
Starting point is 00:54:57 Yeah. They've already announced it. All right. All eight episodes. on the 15th, I think, of October. I kind of like it when they do that, you know? Well, yeah, I mean, obviously you're waiting for
Starting point is 00:55:09 lanterns to kind of do that. Yes, I'm waiting for lanterns. That's true. There was something coming out on the 8th, too, another series. Are you thinking VHS mixtape? No. Because that's coming on
Starting point is 00:55:23 on the 8th. Oh, I'll have to watch that. Go ahead. I'll look it up. All right. Pat chimes in again. He says, regarding River, I don't know what that is. He says, looking forward to this flick after reading about it the other day. I don't think I heard of River. That's a flick that came out of Fantastic Fest because Fantastic Fest is happening right now in Austin, Texas.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And River got like a big, big, like positive reaction. People are buzzing about it. So I don't really know what it's about. I just know like Pat's saying, like I just know the feedback from people that watched it are like, you know, really stinging its praises. So we'll see, we'll see how that translates. to when it comes out. I think it's a slasher movie, and I know it has Jane Levy and Jessica Roth.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Okay, cool. Okay, well, kind of get a modern All-Star cast then. All right, regarding martyrs, V.J. Masi said, what a movie. I guess the original French martyrs, right? Well, yeah, the remake sucked. Yeah, I was supposed to say.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I hope so. All right, regarding Hellraiser, Jean-Sebastien Belis, see? That's terrible. Okay, I started French and ended up Italian. Have this gem on Blu-ray, and I have the soundtrack on vinyl. Well, that's good. See, a physical media brother, right there. Physical media.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Yeah. I salute you, Sebastian, whatever your name is. This next one, I can't make up, man, because I was just saying the Jonah movie, right? Because I couldn't think of the name. get this this dude's name is lance the obscure movie guy and recurring whale fall he says so jona this is this your burner account lance it seems to be right
Starting point is 00:57:15 oh man all right let me say this about this well movie that's for whatever reason is one of those movies you guys know that like for everybody that goes to the theater often right like there's always that one trailer that you just seem to see before every movie starts. And this is the one that's been stalking me for the last two, three months that I've been going to the theater.
Starting point is 00:57:38 This fucking whale movie that hasn't even come out yet. It comes out like in two weeks or, you know. And I'm like, I'm tired of seeing this fucking trailer. It doesn't grab me. Like, how the fuck are they going to keep my attention for an hour and a half of a dude being stuck inside of a well stomach? Like, you know, it has fucking Thanos is in the movie. He's in every movie.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Oh, that's who's in it. Okay. just made me remember the other series that comes out on the eighth the Netflix series lands below the Sea Creature One Oh, that's right. Okay, okay. He's in is he in that one? Josh Hardinette. Josh Hardin. I think Josh Burlin is going to be in that whale fall movie for like 10 minutes. Well, yeah, because most of it is this dude being stuck in the whale's stomach. So I'm assuming.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I think he dies in it. Gosh, Rowland. That's pretty fucked up. Right. Kind of pulls it. Samillow Jackson and Deep Blue Sea, huh? In a bunch of movies, because Sam Jackson's another one that just pops out in every movie,
Starting point is 00:58:43 it seems like. Oh, he hasn't in a while, though. He used to. Seems that way. All right. But, yeah, I'm not, I'm not excited for this well movie at all. One, all right. One more. What is the last year of being? What does he say? He says, so, Jonah.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Same story. Okay. All right, one more piece of feedback, and then I think we got another cool in the week to chime in. So regarding Ghost of Mars, Eric W. Robert says, I love most Carpenter films, but this one is just a damn mess. I can see why Carpenter took almost a decade off after making this movie. Ice Cube said it was the worst movie he'd made, and even Courtney Love dropped out of making it. I didn't know about it. I'll bet Nas knew about that, right? Nope, but that movie is hella good. I don't care what anyone says.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Is it? Ghost to Mars. He's awesome. I like that movie a lot, by the way. The soundtrack is fire. It's got Pam Grude, Jason Statham. Oh, that's right. That's right. It's got my buddy's dad in it.
Starting point is 00:59:42 What's the name? Winding his hair from Dancers Wolves. Might be working with. West Dutty? No. Rodney A. Grant. That's my brother. Oh, Ronnie, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:53 All right. Okay. Well, what's your cool of the week, Nez? I don't know, man. A lot of drama's been going on here. Shit, I'm still alive, man. That's the cool of the week right there. Yeah, man, just a lot, a lot has been happening here.
Starting point is 01:00:18 That's cool of the week on here. A lot of stuff's been going on over here, but we're getting through it all. So, but I mean, uh, oh, um, Reacher, uh, season finale. I finally sat down. Reacher. Okay. And finished that. Uh, it wasn't one of the greatest seasons. It started out hella good. And then it just kind of, eh, but it was still good in the end. Um, I need to start that, that new series, the spinoff. I can't remember her name. But, um, I did like her when she was on previous season. So I'll give that a shot. and I tried lanterns, but I fell asleep.
Starting point is 01:01:01 It's just maybe not my thing. But I'm going to get through it. I started it. I'm going to finish it. I finished Penguin and all those other DC ones. So I'll get through it. But everyone seems to be ranting and raving about it. That was Michael of the week.
Starting point is 01:01:18 My knowledge is I didn't care for Green Lantern or any of that. So I didn't really care. So, but, I mean, I like the actors that are in it. So I've been, I've been trying to slowly get through that. But I finished Reacher. That was good. That was something else. Oh, was it on Netflix or HBO?
Starting point is 01:01:42 The new Tyler Perry movie? I saw that last night. A little documentary on Mr. T. Oh, I saw that in passing, yeah. Yeah, that was actually pretty good, man. I never met him, man. I've always loved him, 18. and even when he was during his bouncer AIDS days when there was an old TV show.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I don't know if you remember last. Remember, I think it was called real people and they would just find different. I think it was real people, but I don't remember. But anyway, it was during his bodyguard stage when he was like whoever the strongest bodyguard was. And he was picking up guys and throwing him as far as he could in some bar. I don't know. I just remember that. That's when I first seen Mr. T. And then, of course, A-Team or Rocky 3, then A-Team,
Starting point is 01:02:35 and then the cartoon and all the toys. The cartoon, that's right. And the Mr. T. cereal and all that. I pity the poor food, don't eat my cereal. That's it. That's it. But, yeah, that one was really cool. That one, that was something I needed to watch,
Starting point is 01:02:53 because as shitty as I feel. felt I was like, I just need to watch something to kind of get out of this funk. And I watched that. And what a lot of the stuff he was saying, like he was from the hood. He, he knew the struggle, him, his family, his mom, single mom. And he said, all the hardships that he went through. He goes, I kept going. I think he was a church person. But he goes, I never, I never lost faith. I just kept going forward no matter what was happening. And this is where I am today. Love my life. I love my family. And he goes, and I have nothing really to regret. And that kind of made me sit there and think about what was going on with me.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I mean, don't get me wrong. I mean, my family's here. I have my grandsons. They're safe. But we're at that age now. Not to bring the show down, but we're at that age now where we're going to lose loved ones. And for me lately, there's been a lot. And it was just finally all coming down.
Starting point is 01:03:55 on me. So I was kind of like, Brian, I know, man, I let you down all week, bro. I mean, I'm sorry, but... I know when we can't record, I know it's something serious going on. Yeah, man, it was just...
Starting point is 01:04:09 I don't know what, something... I was physically drained. I'd be all juice. Okay, I'm ready to do this. I'm ready to do this. On my way home, dude, I'm just like, fuck, man. I started talking to my wife
Starting point is 01:04:19 and next thing you know, I'm asleep. And then she even, I was like, are you okay? You seem to just come home me just pass out i said i don't know and but i mean i sat there and today i was off today so i was really thinking about life and everything i mean and i'm just like ah i feel i'm alive and i'm here and that's why i'm coming on today and again i'm sorry to bring the show down but that's how i felt today and i and i feel i'm feeling better i'm slowly i'm slowly getting there uh did some stuff today
Starting point is 01:04:53 I think after my, I think after my car accident with my truck just, oh, that just, that really kind of just fucking stabbed me in the back. And I was like, I don't,
Starting point is 01:05:04 I don't have time for this shit. You know, but that was the thing, though, I was just leaving my buddy's, um, celebration of life. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I felt good. I mean, I got up there and I, I talked about my brother, man, I love him and I miss him. But now I was like, I felt,
Starting point is 01:05:21 I felt all right. Like, okay, I was there. I said my piece. I got to see his family and everything. On my way home, I was like,
Starting point is 01:05:28 I was feeling good. And that little fucker decided to just walk out in front of my truck. And bam, I was like, oh, totaled out my truck. Oh, man. I was like,
Starting point is 01:05:40 ah. Was it a deer? Yeah, deer just strolled out in front of me. I live up where there's deer everywhere. And I'm on the highway, 90-something miles one way, every day when I go to work.
Starting point is 01:05:53 damn and that I couldn't tell you how many I've hit yeah it's inevitable sounds inevitable I know I've hit a few one hit me one one actually came running out and slammed in to the side of my car so
Starting point is 01:06:08 bam like a zombie deer huh yeah dude just came running out like like one of the characters in the movie just came running out of nowhere and bam I was like holy shit so but yeah I mean again I'm thinking about everything talking to friends and I just
Starting point is 01:06:24 I feel I feel better than I did so I was like That's all you can do man Sit down with my brothers and talk about some Some movies that we like So but yeah I was I was telling As I was telling Lance earlier that it's important That we take care of ourselves
Starting point is 01:06:40 And we're going through stuff like this Because it all builds up Like this doesn't go anywhere And it'll come out in other ways If you don't take care of yourself You know And it seems like you've been doing that If you got to sleep for 12 hours
Starting point is 01:06:52 that's fine, you know. Even if there's a little bit of depression that hits, even if there's some tears involved, you're laying it all loud and that's what's important because especially as men, we're trained to like, you know, just keep everything inside, but it doesn't stay inside. And it'll come out like through anger
Starting point is 01:07:08 or through other behaviors that are going to hurt you later on. So it's important to just take care of yourself. It seems that's what you're doing now. Even whether you know it or not, you have been taking care of yourself, you know, reaching out to your friends, getting your sleep. or even just kind of sitting there being upset, angry, et cetera. It's all part of it.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And so, you know, yeah, you are going to come out through the other side. It seems like you're already almost there. And what I was talking to Lance is like little shows like this. This is all like trivial shit, you know, like we'll get through it. Like it's not a big deal because at the end of the day, even if you were to be like, okay, I got to be there for my boy, Brian. Let's do this show. You're really not going to be present because your mind's going to be somewhere else anyway. So it's better for you to take the time off and just get better and then come back stronger.
Starting point is 01:07:55 That's, you know, that's how I see it. Brother, man, thank you, man. I think I needed to hear that as well. I mean, not. Yeah. Seriously, dude. I'm like, how fuck, man. You get it.
Starting point is 01:08:08 I'm sure you guys, all of you guys get it even the listeners. But I'm like, seriously, dude, I needed that. I needed to hear that. I mean, that was, thank you, Pedro, man. Of course. Yeah, it's just something that we all have. As men, it's hard for us to do it sometimes. And then it just, it all just crumbles on us, you know.
Starting point is 01:08:27 But in the long run, it's better for us to just do what we're doing to get through it in a safe way. And that sometimes means, like, being unavailable for people. In the long run, we're all going to be better off for it, you know? Yeah, I mean, listening to you guys, listening to you, Pedro, listening to my grandsons and their cousins and friends playing outside, laughing. I'm like, that's my good medicine right there. Hearing their laughter, knowing they're having fun, makes me feel
Starting point is 01:08:58 better. So I'm just like, oh, man. All of this, I mean, shit, a few minutes before I came on, I was like, I mean, I wasn't even going to reach out to Lance today, but I was like, you know what? I've seen both of these movies. I actually haven't seen the main one again last night. For good or for bad,
Starting point is 01:09:16 huh? Yeah, but I'm here, brothers, man. Even the Pod W.S. Anderson ones we've seen. That's right. That's right. With his wife. Michael de Wig is coming on this show. All right. Were you all ready to get into some movies?
Starting point is 01:09:32 So what else we got? Well, we got, let's see, a little bit of trivia here for resident. This is Resident Evil, Welcome to Raccoon City. Let's see. Set in 1998, I don't know why. Oh, this is why. This origin story explores the secrets of the mysterious Spencer's, mansion and the ill-fated raccoon city.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Director-writer Johan's Roberts, also known for 47 meters down to get this primate from this year. You know what? That guy has it. I don't think that guy's done a bad movie. He also did the stranger sequel, right? The good one. Oh, pray at night? He did that? Yes. Oh, okay. I still haven't seen that one.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I've got to check it out. With Big Titty Christina Andrews. Redhead. Yeah. Is that the one when they're running around the trailer park? Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one was good. I liked that one. He had that cool. He had like that dope-ass scene where the truck was on fire. Remember you guys and it's in slow motion?
Starting point is 01:10:33 I got to see it. I've never seen it, man. Oh, you should see it. Better than any other Rennie Harlan shit that he did. I'm sure. I'm sure. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Well, speaking to this, Welcome to Recoon City. Guys, I started watching the first half this morning because I thought it was Wednesday and I was going to watch the second half tomorrow morning. So I've seen half of it.
Starting point is 01:10:53 So maybe I'll listen to you guys and go last. Where is my soundboard? I need a soundboard. Boo this man. All right. Ness, you want to go first, man? Do you remember this one? Yeah, really quick.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Welcome to Rackham City. Once a booming home of a pharmaceutical giant umbrella corp. The company's Exodus left the city a wasteland, a dying town with a great evil brewing below the surface. when the evil is unleashed, a group of survivors must work together to uncover the truth behind umbrella and make it through the night. All right. I saw this. My son and I saw it when it came out.
Starting point is 01:11:31 We went to the theater. I was like, another resident evil. I mean, we've seen the other ones. Why not? No Mela in this one. I mean, don't get me wrong. I do have, I really like the first two in those Mela ones. And the other ones that just went way off the rails.
Starting point is 01:11:48 but so we go in there we sit down and watch this one um this was the first one my youngest son eric scene and he had playing the he had played the games i don't i know he played the first two and then there are many other ones that came with it um so i was like all right i actually like this one more than any of the other ones we've gotten because whoever did this did his homework i don't know if he played the games or maybe there was other people in there throwing, hey, man, put this in it, put this in it, and put this in it, and there was a lot from the first, excuse me, the first game, characters and all. And there was a lot from the second game, which I really love.
Starting point is 01:12:31 That was, out of the games that I played, I've only actually played the first, the first three on PS1, then when PS2 came out, I think it was like code name, Veronica, or something like that. Which game was Leon in? he was in the second one so was he that big of a fucking weenie in the games as he was in the movie
Starting point is 01:12:59 no no he was just a character that you used no yeah that kind of bugged me because he didn't look like Leon but I think it was like Leon and one of the other girls were playable characters in the second one
Starting point is 01:13:15 and then Claire Redfield and Chris Redfield were playable characters in the first one. Yeah. If I remember, right, but it's been a long time. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:13:23 Claire will. Listeners, Phil's joining us now. That's who you just heard. Yeah. Hey. Was that Phil? I'm back.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Had a volleyball game that ran long. What's your cool of the week? Uh, cool of the week is got to be the ritual. My daughter wanted to walk a, uh, a, Windigo movie.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Ah. And I thought about antlers, but ritual is more fun. Oh, yeah. They're both from Netflix, right? Yeah, they were like Netflix originals. Yeah, no, ritual's real good. Yeah, that's actually, which one?
Starting point is 01:13:55 Which one was scary? Where the British guys are in the woods? Is that the one where they have the nightmare and they piss all over themselves? Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty, yeah. What am I thinking? I'm thinking of the one where they were in. What was the one when they were in some other country?
Starting point is 01:14:12 I think that was it. That was it. They were in Wales, I think. They were American and they, there was no. subtitles or anything for all the other the other people that were speaking whatever language. Oh, no. There was some, I thought it was a ritual. I thought.
Starting point is 01:14:29 I don't know, but I remember some people, there were somewhere in some part of the world. And there was some kind of like area that they're telling them, you can't go over there. You can't go over there. But they were staying in their language. You slowly figure it out. You figure it out by the end of the movie. but it's that one where they're on like a pyramid or something right we just watched it no that's the ruins oh yeah no i was thinking of the ruins too no it was maybe it is antlers maybe that's antlers
Starting point is 01:14:59 no antlers was that one when they were in the cave with the when uh what's his name uh what's what's his nuts naz um somebody is yelling at us right now i know Graham Green. Not more than the Beyond review, but okay. Graham Green was a sheriff and he was trying to tell them, hey, man, you guys better listen to all this. And they didn't want to listen to the natives and then all hell broke loose. Wasn't that antlers? Yeah, that was really good. Because that's always the thing.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Yeah, that was a good one. Listen to the natives. God damn it. I mean, they're trying to warn you. It's all right. Then all hell breaks loose. That was the ruins too. That's, uh, Antlers is next on the list. she's into the Windigo for some reason right now.
Starting point is 01:15:45 That's cool. Have her watch Pets sit here. Yeah, I thought about that one too. Yeah, have her watch that if she wants to get mad that it never shows up. At least they can hear it in the background. I'm like, oh shit, when did we get to see the Windigo? You don't. That's the fun part.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Oh, fuck, wait a minute. I know I had a cool of the week. I started listening to it, Stephen King, the Audible. Audible book. All right. Nice. Nice. That is funny. I just got that audible book. No shit. Brian, I want to tackle the first mini series and the two movies. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:27 So I'm going to break those up in the four episodes. But anyway, so I was like, I never, I have the book. I think I started it, but never finished it. So I said, you know what? Let me just listen to this. Can I zone out while I'm driving and listen to this? the book so far is like a million times different than the original mini-series because there was one whole section of the beginning of the story I was like what the hell is this because I just watched the original mini-series and then I started the second movie and the beginning of the second movie
Starting point is 01:17:01 starts off with the story in the book that I had no idea I was like oh okay because I remember when I saw chapter two the beginning I didn't get I was like what the hell is all this? That was from the books. I was like, ah, so I don't even think I'm almost to chapter three, but there was whole section of, I think, chapter one or whatever chapter two was where
Starting point is 01:17:24 I didn't understand. All these characters that were they were talking about in the book, I was like, who the fuck are these people? They show them in the beginning of it chapter two in the movie. I was like, ah. But just like really quick, but I was like, ah, okay, I get it now.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Wait until you get to the X-rated stuff. Oh yeah, the underage X-rated stuff. Yeah. Careful. I mean, even with some of the stuff that he was saying, I was like, where were you? What was going on in your life when you were writing this? And I could see why they cut it out of the miniseries and don't even tap on it. But I was like, whoa.
Starting point is 01:18:05 I imagine they all got together before they even started filming and we're like, okay, so we're not doing this part. We ain't doing this part, right? No doubt. Yeah. And somebody's like checking on Stephen King's computer right now just to make sure. Yeah. So I was like, whoa, what's happening here?
Starting point is 01:18:20 But yeah, I mean, I was one of my other friends I was telling him and he was like, yeah, dude, there's some stuff you haven't got to yet. I'm like, oh, man. So, but yeah, I mean, I've been doing that because, I mean, I want to talk about the movies and then at least know a little bit of the book when we do those episodes. But yeah, that's it. But Raccoon City, welcome to Rackoon City. again, I liked what was going on in the film. A lot of stuff from the games visually, even. I mean, the scenes, when you go into the police station,
Starting point is 01:18:54 when that truck crashes into the front, the doorway or walkway or whatever that is, when it was from the very first game. If you're looking at the cover, there's that zombie that's looking over his shoulder. And that was one of the, in the first game when you're in that mansion, you walk down that hall
Starting point is 01:19:15 and then you leave the main room, you go into a dining room off to the left and just memory. Then you go into one of the hallways off the dining room. You go down a hall, you hear something, and then it turns into like a little scene. And you see that zombie slowly. The camera kind of zooms in slowly,
Starting point is 01:19:33 and he's chomping on someone, and then he turns and looks over his shoulder. And when they added that in the movie, inside, I was like, That very first zombie It was like when Leon was getting Knocked over by it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Yeah. I was like, hell yeah. I mean, that's why I like this movie so much because they, they took scenes from the game and did it for us. The story was a little wishy-washy,
Starting point is 01:20:00 but I just, visually, I enjoyed it. I thought it was good. And like I said, out of all the Resident Evil movies we've gotten, this one,
Starting point is 01:20:10 I was like, oh, I'm right on because when it came out, man, the people were bashing it left and right. Like, ah, this movie's stupid. Ah, so I wasn't expecting much when I sat down to watch it. But when it was over, I mean, I was like, man, that was awesome. I enjoyed it. So, yeah, I love this one.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Resident Evil, welcome to Racken City. This one's awesome. All right. He'll a good stamp. Yep. Hey, Joe, you want to go next? Yeah, same thing as Lance. I'm going to have to put my Lance card out right now and say that.
Starting point is 01:20:46 I only got halfway through it, but I did see it in the theaters when it came out in 2021. So I still do remember some things from it. You know, like Ness was saying, I think it was very true to the game. I like the cinematography. I thought it looked pretty damn good. A lot of characters, maybe it needed a little more time because it was just so many. They tried to put all the characters in. And this is a good example of how like, like this is what I don't like fanboy culture,
Starting point is 01:21:12 because you're damn if you're doing, you're damn if you don't. So this film, they try their best to make it like the video games. They give you the characters. They give you, you know, some of the storylines from the video games, even some of the visuals from the video games. And people were shedding on it. Oh, you know, it's like a carbon copy of the video game, this and that, fuck that.
Starting point is 01:21:31 It wasn't even good. And then you have the movie that just came out that went completely away from that and they were trying to do their own thing, you know, but using the video games as the template. And that was also ragged on. Oh, this fucking guy's not even. even a fan and what's good why why is it so it's like we have to ignore these people like i'm like fan boy culture could be fucking toxic sometimes i have my doubt that those people even exist
Starting point is 01:21:57 because i haven't really seen any are they bots or what oh i've seen i think so i think so really yes that cragger got a lot of shit for this particular film he made well for this one but for the for like i've heard i've heard people talking about people shitting on it but i've never actually anybody shitting on. Oh, are you talking about Raccoon City or the new? No, the new one. The new one? No, the people that shit on it on YouTube. I've seen the, you know. Yeah, hold on. Let me just say one thing. I'm not going to mention any names, all right, but it's somebody we all know. And this, this guy, like, if there's a female empowered character in a movie, he immediately shits on it. If he thinks it's quote, woke, he immediately
Starting point is 01:22:40 shits on it. We won't name him, but we may know who he is. Anyway, moving on. I know some of them. That's usually me. I know some of them. Spoiler alert, it's not Philip. One of my buddies was going off. He took his girlfriend to see it and she liked it because she was like,
Starting point is 01:23:00 I love these type of movies. And he kept his mouth shut because he probably wanted something. But he got to work. He got to work. He lit into it. I was like, man, it's a movie. Calm down.
Starting point is 01:23:13 It wasn't. Or, Oh man, I can't wait to talk about that one. Yeah, the story, the story, like Ness was saying, the story ain't much, but what they try to do more
Starting point is 01:23:22 is just giving you the characters and giving you, like, giving everybody like a little moment with, like, fan service-y stuff. So it was more of a highlight real, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:31 Welcome to Rackland City than, like, a good story. But I just, I like that vibe. I like this filmmaker. Like I said, he hasn't made a bad movie. And you could,
Starting point is 01:23:42 and one of the things that Welcome to Rackland City also had is, that it had a lot of heart because you could tell the person that was making it really believed in the and the IP and was trying to make his best to like tribute that IP. And I think he, I think he did a good job with it. So yeah, I haven't seen it since I started there in 2021, but I remember liking it. So those are my views on it. Who's next? I'll jump in. Everybody talked? I only saw half of it, Philip. So yeah, I had actually a pretty good time with this one. I had to watch it twice. I wasn't really paying attention the first time,
Starting point is 01:24:19 and so I had, but some of the CGI is a, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, and characters are. They may not play the exact same roles, but you at least get a gist of who they are. If you're not a fan of the game, however, you have no idea who the fuck that guy is. So, and they don't do a very good job of explaining it. It was fun. I like the soundtrack a lot. They had a really great use of music. They had like a journey song playing while the Irish guy that always plays a cop that looks nothing like a cop ever i can't remember his name but he's been in a bunch of shit uh he's he's got like this journey song playing in the background the whole time he's in in the car and uh chaos is ensuing around him and uh i i liked it man i had a pretty
Starting point is 01:25:28 good time i think this is if if you're looking for a true to the game movie this is about as good of a job as they could have possibly done. And it's not particularly scary, but they have a bunch of different cool zombies, a bunch of different cool monsters, a damn good cast, considering there's no Milojovich. And I think it was good, man.
Starting point is 01:25:54 I had a good time with it. Brian, I think Brian is the only one left. Yeah, I enjoyed this one. Up until this point, this was, I consider the best Resident Evil movie so far. The cast was pretty decent. I agree with Philo. The CGI was not good.
Starting point is 01:26:16 And there was times where you can tell they used practical effects and the practical effects look pretty good. And then it would switch the CGI. And I was kind of like, why? Yeah, on the same monster. Like, you already built the thing. Do something with it. And, um,
Starting point is 01:26:35 This is the best-looking cast or group of cops that live in this rinky-ding town there ever was. They looked like the cops in the game. Maybe not the facial, but the stuff they were wearing, little cavalier stuff. I'm talking about it. They all look like they're models or something. Oh, of course. You can't have other people. Leon's hair is a little out of rigs.
Starting point is 01:27:04 And Leon, I didn't play the. I've never played a game, but I know about Leon, and I looked at my daughter, and I was like, why is he such a pussy? Not in the game. That's actually a good question. I don't know why he was such a pussy in this movie. I mean, why was he even a cop in this movie?
Starting point is 01:27:24 Yeah. He slept half the time. He shot his partner in the ass, apparently. Listening to his music when the truck was exploding. Yeah. They did have a mid-credit sequence. I do remember that where I guess Westker wakes up and they had, which I think Wesker's the main bad guy in the entire franchise or he's one of them.
Starting point is 01:27:48 I don't know. I'm not a gamer. So I don't know. Yeah. They give him his sunglasses. Yeah. And it's supposed to be a big reveal to who gives them the sunglasses. But again, we're never going to have answers because they, they rebooted it again.
Starting point is 01:28:00 So. Yeah. And it was one of those scenes where if you didn't play the game, you didn't understand. she was like, my name's Ada Wong. Yeah, dun, dun, dun. Yeah. But they were all characters from the game. They stayed as true to the game as they could have.
Starting point is 01:28:19 It seemed like there were a lot of them, though, right? Yeah, there was a lot. Like, at least six people off the top of my head that were all from the game. Yeah, this was kind of like multiple games jammed into one movie. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. But overall, I had fun with it.
Starting point is 01:28:36 up until this point to me it was the best one okay and probably because Milojovich came out with some stinkers there for a minute you guys didn't like retribution or annihilation
Starting point is 01:28:55 or apocalypse or I was all in on the first two after I think Apocalypse is the second one that was not too bad with Jill Valentine that one when Nemesis came in I was just saying names. I don't even know if those are the actual titles.
Starting point is 01:29:09 Yeah, Part of Apocalypse is the second one. And that was, I like that movie. What was the one in three? I don't know the difference in any of them. Is that like afterlife or something? Yeah, the one in the desert is afterlife. I actually watched that one in 3D. I thought it was extinction.
Starting point is 01:29:26 That was extinction. Yeah, that's a desert one. No, no, no, no. Retribution was a 3D one. That's right. I remember going to WonderCon in San Francisco, and they were there for it. And they go, yeah, go up to the Metrion across the street, and you guys get a surprise. I thought we were going to watch the whole movie because they gave us 3D glasses and everything.
Starting point is 01:29:50 So we sat down. Oh, man. We just got to see the trailer. What? The trailer in 3D. What a ripoff. Number two was apocalypse. Then it was extinction.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Then it was afterlife. Then it was retribution. and then it was the final chapter. Yeah, but it wasn't the final chapter because we got, I mean, for that phase, for that arc. All right, scores. Part one is good.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Part one has its moments of Paul W. Anderson ones. Part one, you know, that one guy with the lasers that gets the black, you know, when the blazers go through him and he gets cut up in little pieces. That was a pretty good effect. It has the liquor,
Starting point is 01:30:29 the dogs, or whatever they call them, you know, towards the end. But, Michelle, Michelle Rodriguez. Yeah, Michelle Rodriguez. I remember that one.
Starting point is 01:30:38 What was the one they kept cloning her and throwing her in that pit? Oh, yeah. That was like part five. Because they brought all of them back for that because they were, that one guy from the mummy, the one from part three,
Starting point is 01:30:50 he comes back for that. Yeah, they brought everybody back. And that was the gimmick that they cloned them. They brought Michelle Rodriguez back. Everybody came back. I like to say, I like to say instead of the mummy,
Starting point is 01:31:02 that guy from Duke Spigolo. Oh, yeah. Rob Schneider? The man, whore. Yeah. The he bitch. The one that inspired the deuce bigelow. So for this movie, I'm going to go,
Starting point is 01:31:18 I'm going to go 6.5 on 10. I think that's a good score. Not bad. Nez 10? No, I'm going to go 9. It would have been 10. It would have been 10, but some of the CGI was a little wonky, and the storyline was all over the place.
Starting point is 01:31:34 But, I mean, 10 for all the video game stuff they threw into it. It's character-wise and everything. But, yeah, it got a little out of hand. But, again, I still enjoy this movie. I love it. I even picked up the Steelbook. I think it gets a seven from me. The soundtrack by itself gives it half a point.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Okay. Yeah, I think I'm right there with Phil. I'll give it a seven. everybody recommends it then i'll have to finish it yeah it's really not bad compared to the rest of them you'll probably give it like a four on ten last i don't know about that well i might oh real quick nez tremors what's your score which one first one oh that's a 10 easy so we'll be had one guy one guy philip you missed this i asked lands i was hoping he wouldn't fuck up the with a row we were on
Starting point is 01:32:33 but he did give it a 9 on 10 so he did fuck it up because remember last week that movie got a perfect score from all of us that's rare into the spider verse what were the other ones you did one and two what did you guys give two I give
Starting point is 01:32:49 a five yeah something around there I did I did like it a lot not great it's not a 10 but I'd probably go about seven I liked it. The little sidekick dude that took, replaced Kevin Bacon.
Starting point is 01:33:06 He was the worst. I wanted more of him. Every time I watch the original tremors, I expect it to suck and then it's so good. Every time I've seen it fucking six times. And every time I go into it watching, I'm like, man, this is going to be bad.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Seven, I think. The last one I saw was one, one of them with Jamie Kennedy. Is that the one when they were in the snow? Yeah, yeah, that's probably the last one. That was toward the end for sure. Yeah. They ended up in an island somewhere.
Starting point is 01:33:38 I watched a horror movie with Jamie Kennedy on a beat move because there was something under the sand. It was awful. And that was bad. I remember that one. Wasn't Hulk Hogan's daughter in that one or something or something? Somebody was a, it was a bunch of nobody's and Jamie Kennedy shows up. Okay. We're ready for the next movie, Phil?
Starting point is 01:34:06 Yes. Yeah, let's go. Oh, that's me, huh? Wait, I didn't see. Okay, the last one I saw was a cold day in hell. That was 2018. That was a Shrieker Island? I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Shrieker Island. Yeah, that's the last one, I think. That's the last one, they end up in an island. Oh, man. Oh, is Jamie Kennedy in that one? I think so. No, what's his name's in it? Napoleon.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Napoleon Dynamite. Are you serious? I haven't seen that one then. I saw the Jamie Kennedy one. Oh, I'm definitely to watch this one. This guy, Jackie Cruz, from Orange is the New Black. Okay. Oh, and Richard Breaks in it?
Starting point is 01:34:47 Oh. What is this all? I'm sold now. Bring to the show. I need to watch this. Okay, I thought I'd seen them all. The snow one is the last one I've seen. Now it's tell.
Starting point is 01:35:00 All right. On to Resident. evil from 2026. Do I sound weird on my microphone here, guys? No. No. Okay. I sound weird to myself. All right. Here we go. A hapless courier is tasked with delivering a new pack. It's a new microphone. It's driving me crazy. A hapless courier is tasked with delivering a new package to a remote hospital. He soon finds himself caught in the middle of an outbreak and he must fight through hordes of mutated creatures to survive. Director and writer is Zach Craigar, also known for the barbarian.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Oh, no, just barbarian. No thee. And the whitest kid you know, classic. Zach Craigar also takes on Resident Evil as one gigantic sequence that follows its regular guy as he undertakes a perilous journey like Frodo going into Mordor. Okay, that makes sense. All right. Nez, you want to start us out? didn't he direct weapons?
Starting point is 01:36:04 Yes. Okay. Weapons. A little known movie known as weapons, yes. Weapons, barbarian. What was the other one? That's it. Northman was the other guy, Egger.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Oh, yeah. Totally different. Okay. Yeah, Northman has the, uh, the, whatever werewolf thing coming out. That's right. So why does kid you know barbarian weapons? Was there another one? No.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Uh, I've, I've only, I've only seen Barbarian and weapons. I've never seen... Okay. It was a sketch comedy show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Barbarian was one of those ones. Hey, it's a new movie.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Let me go check it out. Oh, that was awesome. Weapons, same thing. I had no idea what that was. Mike was, dude, go see this movie. Go see it in IMAX, too. I was like, why? Oh, yeah, that scene at the end
Starting point is 01:36:53 when everyone was going wild. That was awesome in IMAX. And I saw this one twice. I saw it in the theater here in my local town, But, I mean, don't get me wrong. I love the theaters that I go to here, but they need new cameras because it's just dark movies are like, oh, man. Yeah, that's a problem. You can't see.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Yeah, I need two miles on that highway to get the good shit. Yeah, so I go. This one's dark a lot. I went, yeah, that's all I was like, I need to see this again. And my buddy, he's like, if it's an IMAX, that's the only way I'm going to see it. So I'm like, all right. So I go, we go see it last night. And I was like, I thought this was supposed to be IMAX because it's just like the big letterbox in the middle of the screen.
Starting point is 01:37:41 And I hate converted IMAX movies. So I'm like, ah, come on. I mean, don't get me wrong. I liked what was happening on the screen. But when he comes out of the sewer, boom, that's when the whole screen fills up. Oh, okay. And I was like, hell yeah, okay, right on. From here on, it's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 01:37:59 because that scene when he's going down that street and they're all falling off the buildings Oh, that's crazy. That was amazing on that big-ass giant screen and man, they had that volume turned up to tan. It was full blasts in there. That's got to be a scene from a game, right? Is it?
Starting point is 01:38:15 They said this, he took ideas from little things from each game. I think there was a game called Resident Evil Outbreak because there's a, there's a, the main monster thing. It's already out there. There's pictures and everything. The main monster at the end, they took some of that from the first game.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Okay. I think a little from the second game, and then whatever this outbreak game is. They said that's where they took the ideas and blended together. Yeah. Sort of a nemesis kind of character. There was probably giving it too much.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Tons of Easter eggs in this thing. If you're familiar with the games, there's a lot of stuff, like just kind of just sitting around the background. And me and when I saw it the first time with my son, he played those games. And he was like, oh my God. Both of us were like, there's the typewriter. There's the shotgun shells. Yeah, we were jumping out of our seats when we're seeing the plants and we're seeing the first aid spray and Leon's name on that on that gun store and just, oh, I didn't even catch it. And when we
Starting point is 01:39:20 see the monster at the end, I was like, ah, I mean, the zombies were minimal in this. I mean, when I think of Resident Evil, I mean, that's what I want the most of. Just give me more living dead trying to get you. And there was just a couple. And then, I mean, there was a big hoard, but we just, they're kind of behind closed doors. But I liked what Zach Krieger did with it. He took his idea and some video game ideas and threw it together. He took that one druggy guy from weapons because that whole movie, I was like,
Starting point is 01:39:54 where the fuck did I see this guy from? That's who that was. buddy goes he was the dude in weapons the guy lived in the tent and I went oh they're joking he was like yeah was that dude I was like ah okay wait who was he in this one he was the main guy the main guy
Starting point is 01:40:09 oh that was the same guy yeah wow all right because yeah when the first time I was watches the whole movie I was like where have I seen this kid yeah he just has he just has a couple more pounds on him because he's not playing a junk in this movie so yeah that's the only thing he was in something else too that
Starting point is 01:40:25 that Rose knew I can't know what it was He was in some love story I know Euphoria is and probably shit Yeah But the other thing that I really liked about this movie I mean I
Starting point is 01:40:38 The first time I saw it I was kind of like Okay And then when I saw it again Really thinking about it putting it all together Seeing it better on that big giant screen I could see all the dark parts I liked how this played out Like a video game
Starting point is 01:40:55 Mm-hmm he has this he got he's just a average of Joe and he's got his assignment take this from point A to B and fight he didn't know he's got to fight his way through all that so I mean it was like it just went along it was like each
Starting point is 01:41:11 each level of this film got harder and harder and harder and harder before he got to the final boss at the end and I was like wow even the times when it was like first point of the POV shots of when he was holding the gun and everything. I thought that was really cool.
Starting point is 01:41:30 And a lot of jump scares in the beginning. The first time I watched it, man, I think I only jumped because there was some teenage girls in there. Dude, no, there was some serious job. They had great jump scares in this. I'm going to bring one off and spoilers. I'm legit, thinking about that same.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Yeah, one made me jump hard. But yeah, those girls, I mean, that's what I love, man. When you, ah, everyone's, then the other good thing is, everybody was quiet. So I was like, good. Thank goodness, right. No giggling around.
Starting point is 01:41:59 No phone lights coming on. And everybody was into what was going on. Because when the, the tension gets there, especially when he's in that house and the screams and everybody jumping. And what I love is how everyone screams real loud. And then we all start laughing after.
Starting point is 01:42:19 And there was a lot of comedy in this too, which a lot. Yeah. And he said he added a lot of it out. So there was even more comedy at one point. But, I mean, I thought, I thought it was good. I mean, again, first time I was like, yeah, okay, that was all right. And I liked it wasn't 10 hours long.
Starting point is 01:42:37 I mean, no horror movie should be longer than 90 minutes. It was literally 90 minutes. A clean 90 minutes. When this movie was done, I was ready for it to be over. And not in a bad way. It was just so tense through the whole fucking thing. I was like, dude, when is this going to be over? I mean, because, yeah, the second time I was like, I remembered it.
Starting point is 01:42:59 And I was like, okay, okay. And then I was like, shit, this is almost over. And I was like, man. So, but if you got, if it's still playing in IMAX, wherever you guys are at, if you listen to this, go see it in IMAX. Because I, I just thought that was awesome. Like I said, when he comes out of the sewer and the whole screen is filled, especially with how the cinematography was.
Starting point is 01:43:21 But I just, I thought it was amazing. It was sweet. the characters we brought into us a lot of people like, oh shit, I know that person. Stingray, he even popped up in this, Paul Walter Houser. They did our girl, Callie Ray, as bad. Hell yeah, they did, man.
Starting point is 01:43:37 I was so fucking mad. Maxine, but she popped above the screen. I was like, hell yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, that was quick. I'm surprised Justin Long wasn't in this movie because I was expecting him to come out. He could have been a scientist at the end. I mean, that would have been good.
Starting point is 01:43:53 this guy. I assume he was the main scientist. Zach Cherry, he played Carl. He's been in a ton of things. Oh yeah, he's getting big, man. He's in the Spider-Man movies. Is he? He's a guy that
Starting point is 01:44:09 he's like, are you Spider-Man? He's like, yeah, then do a backflip. But yeah, I mean, the two characters that made me super excited was Maxine and Stingray. he played i guess he plays his own his character's name is paul and his real name is paul what's his wrestling name oh i think it's just paul because that's yeah he goes about his man that guy so it's i mean good for him as well the guys that can do it all but i was i was happy when both of them
Starting point is 01:44:42 popped up on the screen fucking paul um but i mean yeah man i enjoyed it again the first time i was like yeah all right but then watching it again i was like all right, because I caught more of the things in the background. I was like, ah, okay. And like with Raccoon City, I was just like, when all the good video game stuff was popping up in that, I was, oh, yeah. But, I mean, the scene that made me and my son
Starting point is 01:45:06 really kind of cheer and laugh is, it's not a spoiler, it's everywhere. When he's in that house and he opens the door and that typewriter's right there, both my son and I went, save your spot. One other guy got it. because he started laughing.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Everyone else was probably like, well, what's the good one about? But, I mean, but in the end, I enjoyed it. I mean,
Starting point is 01:45:29 if I get another chance to go see it again and IMAX, I would. I thought this movie was pretty good. So this one's going on the collection then. That's how it comes on on physical media. No, down.
Starting point is 01:45:38 He's probably already got it. I have all the other ones. I'm a completest. I mean, I got to have it. I mean, I have Texas Chains all the next generation. And that one was...
Starting point is 01:45:47 Oh, boy. Put it right next. Put it right next to the Black Christmas Blu-ray. Oh, I was right here. Black Christmas. Jesus Christ. Nobody gives a shit, Niz.
Starting point is 01:45:59 I had forgot about that. I forgot about that atrocity. I got to bring that out in Santa Jaws. Oh, God. All right. Hey, Phil, let me go next, man, because we got to pack up for a trip to Texas. I'm going to have to piece out a little early.
Starting point is 01:46:16 I really enjoyed this. This was kind of like what I what I've been wanting to see in a Resident Evil movie because it was all from one character's, primarily one character's point of view. The dude was super likable, in my opinion. He was very fallible, which I thought was really cool.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Sometimes he did like really stupid stuff and I wanted to yell at the screen. No, don't fucking do that, you know? Oh, yeah. Like in the sewer and stuff like that. But that was a lot of fun. I like the camera angles. I like the sound design.
Starting point is 01:46:48 I love the jump scares. There's people in our theater that were just like, at certain spots. And I love the way that he makes the comedy in, you know, like shout out to his old, you know, that's why I threw the widest kids you know in there in trivia. A lot of people don't know about that. That's a really great sketch comedy show. Like it did a lot of politically incorrect stuff before anybody else.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Yeah, but it sounds probably way more racist than it actually is. Yeah. Yeah, you'll have to check it out. You'll enjoy it. It's funny. But yeah, no, I really enjoy it. this one. I like the way they kind of got your hopes up at certain spots. And I kept thinking, well, this is going to happen. This is going to happen. And then something totally different happened.
Starting point is 01:47:31 So I really like that. I don't want to give too much away. But like some things toward the end didn't go the way I thought they were going to. So I don't know if you'd call it a twist necessarily. And if you play the video games, you might already know this already, how it was going to be. But I like that, subverting expectations. I'll give it a strong eight. And on second viewing, maybe higher. So I like this one a lot. I really like this character. Yeah. Wow. Okay. All right. All right. All right, guys. I'm going to I'm going to piece out, but you guys enjoy the rest of the show and try to get this thing edited earlier than normal lately. Okay. No worries. Just leave it open and we'll close it out. All right. Later, Lance.
Starting point is 01:48:16 All right. Pedro, what do you think? No, same thing. I really enjoyed this. film. I mean, once the, once the, there's no, there's no time. There's no slow, you know, pace in this movie. Once it starts, you're in it and it goes. And that's why I think 90 minutes was perfect, because we couldn't take any more than 90 minutes, just the way the film structured. I do like, I do like what, what, what, what, what Zach Craigar said about how like the way he saw this was you have this character going through these things and I'm not going to give any spoilers but he foresaw like that's like the prequel was the actual game starting and then the actual game is all the clues that this character
Starting point is 01:48:55 left behind and that's how that that's what he foresaw like so if you rewatch this movie there's a lot of clues that the character leaves for for you know presumably other game other gamers you know going through the same the same path. Yeah, makes sense. So, so, yeah. So that was pretty cool. A lot of great jumpscares like we talked about, cinematography was great.
Starting point is 01:49:18 The, I think was going to become classic, that scene where all, you know, all the whatever, zombies or whatever, jumping off the roof, which isn't the trailer, so it's not a spoiler. Yeah, and it's also, and you went to be tense, and you went to be comedic. And, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:36 It was a good movie. I'll talk more about it when we're in spoilers, but I really enjoyed it. All right. Brian. Yeah, I had a lot of fun with this one. Now, this is the best Resident Evil movie out of the franchise right here. Easily. Austin Abrams is starting to become one of my favorite actors after his performance of weapons.
Starting point is 01:50:00 And then this one, I thought the comedy worked. I like the atmosphere built. the Lance brought up the camera angles and I want to bring up the lighting because there were some shots where it being set in winter and the lights hitting the snow worked really good Yeah
Starting point is 01:50:20 And it felt And it felt like a video game Because he was checking his ammo To see how much he had But not really a spoiler But that scene where he's going to that farmhouse And he looks to the left and then he looks to the right.
Starting point is 01:50:37 It just kind of felt like you'd turn into character to look either direction. Yeah. And I liked everybody in it, and yeah, can't wait to get the spoilers. Best Resident Evil movie. Yeah, easily.
Starting point is 01:50:54 I had so much fun with this one, dude. It was, I feel like there was, it seemed like there was an, like, overly amount of comedy in there. That's not how you say that, but you know what I mean? Yeah, I think with him cutting out some, I think that would, I think that worked out because I think if there was even more comedy, I think it would have been too much. Well, but it was off you, it was also really overly tense.
Starting point is 01:51:22 Like, those first couple of scenes, man, like I was, it's like, give me some right now. And then so they just, they didn't really let up on. the tents a whole lot. They didn't really let you relax. They just threw a little extra comedy in there so that you would have like this, you know, uh-huh, nervous laughter thing happening.
Starting point is 01:51:48 Uh, and I, I think it, I think it worked. It's also why I was ready for the movie to end at an hour and a half because I had, had gone through like an emotional, you know,
Starting point is 01:52:00 situation through the whole movie. And I was like, oh my God, this has to. stop. I'm ready for it to be over. But it was the perfect length, the perfect amount of comedy, probably too much on the tents, but I'm not mad at it. And I, yeah, cinematography was great. Those snow scenes were awesome. Everything in the snow. They had a couple of scenes where characters are running out of the snow. I'll get to more of it in spoilers, but that were just gorgeous. Like,
Starting point is 01:52:35 They were shot so beautifully. And it was like, oh, my God. And it was freaking me out, you know? I think it was like they, they were like, who's our target audience? That fucking guy, put him in the movie. You know, it was perfect. And it was just a gamer going through a real life zombie scenario. I love the monsters.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Nice variety too. Yeah, yeah, good for our monsters. Good, good, good, like, chopping it up from one scene to the next, where he goes from this one level to, you know, a sewer level, and then running through the streets level, and then a going up the stairs to the hospital level, you know? And it just, it felt like a video game. I feel like any complaints about this not being, like, based in the video game, are stupid.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Yeah, he said the game is taking place over here. Yeah. But this story's going on over here, over here. This felt more like a video game than just about any movie I've ever seen. I think it totally works. And I had so much fun with this movie. I mean, Lance gave it an eight. That's got to tell you something.
Starting point is 01:54:09 That says a lot. All right. Let's do scores and we'll go to spoilers. Nez, what do you think? I'll give it an eight. There's some things. I was like, eh, all right. Oh, match and Lance.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Pedro? I'm good. I'm going to give it an eight as well. I'm in spoilers. It wasn't, I wouldn't call it a perfect movie, but there's things, yeah, but I'll give it an eight.
Starting point is 01:54:34 An eight is already, it's a great film. It's a really great film, but it's not a perfect movie. So we'll go eight. Brian? I'll go one hour. I'm going to go nine. Okay. I'm going to go nine, too.
Starting point is 01:54:47 I had a blast with this movie. This is going to end up on the top ten for sure. I don't know where, but it's up there. Okay. All right. Spoilers. Who wants to start us off? This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
Starting point is 01:55:03 You've been. fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a
Starting point is 01:55:10 motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. The jump scare with the old lady coming out of the closet or whatever or whatever
Starting point is 01:55:24 the other room. Because the way that we were focused on the other, the lady running right from the outside in the snow. Yeah. And all of a sudden from the
Starting point is 01:55:33 background. That was a great one, right? I'd never seen, I've seen a million horror movies. I'd never seen that one before. That was new to me. I had my legs crossed. They came uncrossed. I didn't even mean to do it.
Starting point is 01:55:45 And it built great tension with the lady, too, especially the scenes with the cars, because you're worried about her grabbing him. And then I'm under the impression that the dog was the one that brought the virus to, like, the rural part of town, because the couple was already infected, right? The owners of the house. and so the dog, you know, was the only one that could have infected them
Starting point is 01:56:08 because if it was people, there would have been more people running around. So it had to be the dog that brought it in to like the rural part town. That's what I think anyway. I don't know what the fuck the dog was doing in the city, like so far away, but I'm not going to think about it that deep. Yeah, I like a lot of the, oh, and then like the subtle horror. Like, I like the part where he's, when he gets into the RV, that's another great scene by The RV scene is pretty good too. Yeah, I'm like, dude just crawl underneath it.
Starting point is 01:56:38 What the fuck are you doing? Yeah, but in the background, you see the people in the house. Like, you know how when they merged? Like, they're still stalking him, like, as he's trying to get away from it. But it is very subtle, though. And then later on, they linger on the shot a little bit. But I like that because you just see them in the back. You just see like the feet like doing the backflips because, you know, there's two different bodies fused into one.
Starting point is 01:57:02 That was a cool scene. That was pretty creepy. Yeah, that RV scene was kind of like annoying because like there's so many different routes he could have taken. But he's just kind of sitting there is like taking the worst possible route, you know, to get to the other side. I mean, it didn't matter because the other side was also blocked. But so yeah. Well, but yeah, like especially when he opened the driver's door and it didn't go like open. I was like, okay, there's no way out.
Starting point is 01:57:29 You go back out the way you came and crawl underneath that motherfucker like you should have done in the first place. because there's zombies in there. Yes. But again, I think it was very obvious that this is a regular guy, and so he's going to make these mistakes. He's freaking out. We don't really get to know. Oh, one of the criticisms of this film is that there's really no,
Starting point is 01:57:50 like, it's a very paper-thin character development, right? We really don't know anything about this guy. People wanted more character, but we don't have to. That's not the point of the movie. The point of the movie is to take you on this thrill ride, you know, throw for 90 minutes. And so I was okay with that. Like not every film has to have this deep,
Starting point is 01:58:09 you know, symbolism or whatever on the characters or anything. It's just literally a fun time. Yeah, we don't need a backstory. He's every man. That's who he's supposed to be. Right. And then I didn't like but with the third act, I thought it got a little
Starting point is 01:58:25 a little, it was bordering on getting silly for me because it was for the longest time it wasn't silly. It was pretty fuck. Even with the comedy, with the comedy, But the third act, it was starting to get silly. Yeah. The scientists were like cartoon characters essentially. Because, I mean, they just wouldn't want to stab him what the fuck.
Starting point is 01:58:45 That was, I don't know if he did it on purpose because he knew people were going to get frustrated. And, you know, watching film is all about emotion and stuff. But like the fact that they had the needle right there and they just wouldn't use it. Like, it was like, bro, use the, they would just throw away. Like, that was so frustrating. You know, it's like, you just fucking stab him all right. ready with it. Like, um, and even his stupid shit about, oh, I'm too, I'm too tired to climb these stairs
Starting point is 01:59:10 that are obviously very safe with no zombies in them. I'm going to try to go through the building. I'm like, are you fucking stupid? No, no. Well, that part to me, that's another part in like, because yeah, yeah, he had defied the odds up to that point. But, but the way they structure the story is like, we, we could see why. Because for example, in the house, it was only two people, right?
Starting point is 01:59:30 The couple, then the dog. All these incidents. were very isolated. But when he gets to the hospital, like there's thousands of fucking zombies there at that point. And he still somehow, to me, I was like, okay,
Starting point is 01:59:41 this is now he getting ridiculous because how is he getting through all this? And then he finds little loopholes to where he's by himself, you know, where he jumps over the fence. Like there's no zombie. Like, why aren't they there? Like,
Starting point is 01:59:50 they're everywhere else. So I thought that was a little ridiculous. But I do. And then, and then the part where he goes up the elevator is literally just that ball of humanity that's been stalking him. and then that person that's spitting ass, those are his only two obstacles
Starting point is 02:00:06 when it's like there's thousands of zombies out there. What are they at during this time? Okay, there's where I wanted to go into some of the other games, though, because I feel like he pulled from a couple of different games and that spitter in the hallway is, God damn, and I can't remember the name of the game right now. It's another zombie game on the Xbox. Left for Dead.
Starting point is 02:00:30 and it was it was straight out of that and then there was the scene in the sewers with all the zombie rats and that almost looked like the flood from halo oh okay like it was it looked exactly like trying to machine gun down a bunch of flood little guys coming at you and just popping them on the way it was perfect yeah so that that's i was kind of starting to get disconnected there towards the end with doing, I was like, yeah, this is, this is a cartoon now. But no, I mean, you know, the ending was pretty cool as well. I didn't get, I know a lot of people were also upset that it doesn't have the traditional happy ending and he actually, you know, he gets caught.
Starting point is 02:01:10 I mean, he doesn't make it, you know? But again, the idea there is that he's leaving the breadcrumbs for the next player to come and get all the clues that he left behind, like a real video game would. And that's kind of, that was the idea behind him not making it at the end. because essentially, according to the director, the person that the second person that's behind him, they're going to have to face him at the end. So he kind of becomes like the big bot, like the, you know, so yeah. So all that stuff is like, I really liked.
Starting point is 02:01:40 I thought it was original. And so, you know, all in all, I do have my criticisms of this movie, especially towards the end, but it was still a great film. Sticking the landing is always the hardest part. but when you go like just straight up left field at the end of it it kind of always works that's sort of remember he also did it with weapons remember how weapons ended that's what i was thinking that's sort of what he did with weapons he just went fucking haywire i'd throw the script away we're just going to do something cool yeah that was it
Starting point is 02:02:12 like all right i'll take it i think he stuck the landing okay i mean i like the way it ended i mean a lot of people like oh that's it i mean there wasn't i mean there could have been more i mean we'll probably know how it ends maybe the helicopters blast them up who knows yeah but i mean it ended good and especially how the camera zoomed in and went into his eye then went resident evil that was just like the video game like it was maybe not the most satisfying ending but it was definitely the most entertaining i i liked it because where they left it off okay he probably said you know what i'm gonna leave it here if it does good i'll make more if it doesn't, then I'm on to my next project.
Starting point is 02:02:56 But, well, it did great. It had the best opening of any Resident Evil movie in history at like 60 million or something like that. So part two is on his way. I think because it did so good because of the two previous films he hit it out of the park with and everybody, I mean, weapons, Academy Award winning movie.
Starting point is 02:03:17 So everyone was like, oh, fuck yeah, let's go. So I was, I mean, I was, even if I didn't see those other two movies, I was going to see it anyway. I'd seen all the other, however many Resident Evil films. So I thought that was, I was like, all right, cool. I'll check it out. Remember, there was also that horrible show on Netflix, too.
Starting point is 02:03:33 Oh, that was terrible. I was like, what are you guys doing here? I mean, the things they hit it out of the park, each one, were the animated one, the CGI Resident Evil ones. I thought all of those were good. But the other things that I really like. I mean, other than all the jump scares and when we got some somewhat zombies, I guess.
Starting point is 02:04:00 I mean, but the thing that kind of rubbed me the wrong way the most was basically just ripping off the thing when those, when that couple was dead in the house and then the one that guy's head shot off, the little tendrils or whatever came out and grabbed the other and flipped them over and then it kind of just morphed into one thing. I was kind of like, well, that's straight from the thing.
Starting point is 02:04:21 Yeah, it was. I thought it was very much inspired by the thing. But a lot of those, the little tentacle things, I mean, there was pretty much every one that was infected of and had them. That was from straight out the games. So I was like, all right, that's cool. And the final boss, the monster at the end, when Brian becomes it. Yeah, that whole scene when they just stab him.
Starting point is 02:04:44 I mean, he was even holding his hand out. Like, give it to me. I'll stab myself. And they were, oh, what do we do? I get it. you're getting scared because all hell's breaking loose, but somebody take a bat and then just, and just do it.
Starting point is 02:04:58 But then I was just like, oh, man, you guys are killing me. That's where the comedy got a little excessive as like the scientists are like cracking every, every line is cracking a joke for the scientists. They're like not taking this situation seriously at all.
Starting point is 02:05:15 I mean, but I thought it was cool. I liked it. I mean, all the stuff with the padlocks and the locks. I mean, that first lock on the fence. man. You had to have that
Starting point is 02:05:23 diamond heat. That was straight out the game. Yeah, that was great. I thought that was amazing. The CGI dog took me out a little bit. I was like, man, the CGI dogs in Raccoon City were terrible as well, but
Starting point is 02:05:39 this one I was kind of like, I didn't hate the CGI dog. That was actually more of a jump scare for me too, because like once, like I was expecting him to be some sort of zombie dog. I wasn't expecting him to like send tentacles out of his mouth. So when he did that, I had the same reaction that the kid had, man, which is exactly what
Starting point is 02:06:02 was intended. I think it worked. I mean, that scene when, uh, when he's running down the road and the cop shows up. And, uh, he's like, hey, yeah, he didn't want that girl, that lady to be in his car. So he was like, can you put her in his squad car, his little cruiser? I was like, dude, put her in the back. I'll put her in the front seat but I thought that was cool
Starting point is 02:06:25 he's driving down the road talking to all the shit and all of a sudden you just see that thing start to fish tail and blah I just flipped it was like
Starting point is 02:06:31 everybody in the theater where oh my God I was like oh man and the way she just disappear or even after she keeps doing that I don't know
Starting point is 02:06:40 when he first hit her and how she just crawled walked off into the woods I don't know about you I was sitting like this guy's better than me because I would have kept dog going
Starting point is 02:06:51 I mean, if you were, I mean, obviously hit her. I don't know how about fast he was going. But hitting her and then going out and she's gone. I was like, that was an intense scene. That whole everything in the snow would like had me freaking out. I'm like, what are the whole time? I'm like, why are you doing that? Why are you doing that?
Starting point is 02:07:14 Don't do that. Don't. And just you hit her with the fucking car and there's a blood trail leading into the woods. If she wanted to get help, then she would have stayed there. And just driving through the snow. I mean, driving through the snow is 96. Yeah. And just a little, little beater car.
Starting point is 02:07:32 I'm like, dude, first of all, why are you going so fast? He's going hell of fast, slipping and sliding all over the highway. I was like, no, I mean, I got four-wheel driving. I'm moving like a turtle. I don't care. I'll pull over and let everyone pass me. If it takes me four hours to get home, it takes me four hours to get home. But I'm going to get home.
Starting point is 02:07:50 But I'm like, man, these idiots is hauling ass down the road. That scene where she came running from like out of the darkness in the snow. Oh, yeah. Beautiful. That was just like the game. When you're sitting there and you don't know, it just comes running at you full speed. Yeah. You just got to hurry up and be quick with the gun.
Starting point is 02:08:12 I mean, that was another thing. He didn't, he kept saying it. I don't know guns. Yeah. And it was just like the game. When you play any of the game, You start off with just a pistol. He went from a pistol.
Starting point is 02:08:23 He went to a shotgun to where he had that little automatic machine gun at the end. Yeah, I pulled that shotgun off the wall. Got to go with that scene because that was from the original game. Yeah. And a double barrel, too, man. You got to reload that constantly. Yeah. He didn't know.
Starting point is 02:08:39 He just, luckily he didn't even know. That part that made me laugh the hardest is when that first lady was trying to run at him. And he was trying to, how do you take the safety off? Because he was pointing it and pulling it and nothing was happening. running around the car Yeah And the way The other part that made me laugh
Starting point is 02:08:55 Is well he was just firing and firing And then he accidentally shoots his car Yeah But when he's sitting in the in the cruiser with Stingray And when he was trying to figure out How to load that machine gun And they were like I think it goes in the other way
Starting point is 02:09:12 And then he gets it in there And then the way he's pointing it right at Stingray He's not even like thinking about it The whole time it like it's every time that muzzle flashed across the screen i was like fucking stop it yeah i thought he was gonna shoot him but it went off and they both started screaming because i'm a gun guy that shit drives me nuts yeah he was like dude don't find those guns in the car you can hit the engine block oh man i mean but yeah when kelly came on to the scene i was like
Starting point is 02:09:42 fuck yeah she's about to do some shit and she did for the second she was in the movie i was pissed. I was like, ah. But, I mean, but overall, I mean, I, like, after the second watch, I was like, oh, okay,
Starting point is 02:09:55 I'm, I'm behind this movie. Because, again, I was like, yeah, but then just seeing it on that big screen and just appreciating
Starting point is 02:10:03 all the Easter eggs and how it played out like a game. And, yeah, this young kid, I thought he, he did an amazing job because he wasn't,
Starting point is 02:10:11 he wasn't a soldier, he wasn't a cop, he wasn't military. He was just some average Joe that, trying to make, ends meet with his job and dealing with
Starting point is 02:10:20 the relationship drama with his girlfriend wife she was pregnant didn't know it seemed like she wanted to keep the kid but he was kind of like yeah I don't know but it's it's your body
Starting point is 02:10:35 your choice I mean he was throwing all that in there yeah inside I was like you motherfucker just take care of you take care of your kid but yeah I mean but I was glad they they used that through the whole movie because that By the time I got to the end of the movie, he was kind of like, just looking at that sticker of the car, the little family in the back of that car, he was like when he made that message, too. I mean, that was stuff from the game.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Is this a pro-life movie? I assume. Let's go. Like, if you find that in the game, I mean, there's times where you find recorders and you play it and there's messages from someone. Will this message be in the next movie? I don't know. But, I mean, they didn't blow up the building. his phone is somewhere in there.
Starting point is 02:11:20 But I enjoyed it, man. And the whole, the thing that I usually don't get grossed out a lot in movies because we see everything that's gross and everything. But that scene with the mutated babies and the maternity ward. Yeah, I was like, dude, there's got to be another way around that thing. I was like, what the fuck? And you're walking in there. Time to go back and look at the mat, buddy.
Starting point is 02:11:42 When the baby came out with the long skinny arms. Yeah. Spider-baby. I was like, oh, no. And when that big thing started to blow up, I was like, oh, no. But he had a lot of moments where I was like, why are you, don't do that?
Starting point is 02:12:01 You're doing that? But it's so the movie can happen, you know? Yeah. And the other part that made me laugh hell of hard is when after he dealt with the fat guy that was throwing up the acid. And he was like, oh, fuck my Js. And they were all melted on the bottom.
Starting point is 02:12:16 And fuck that. I don't care if he was wearing socks. I am not walking through that blood. Yeah. But I mean, you gotta get there. He knew he was he was done for it because after he got bit by that little girl in the RV, he was like slowly seeing that thing just go up inside of his arm and how infected it was. Well, that was another moment where like as soon as he saw her crazy foot.
Starting point is 02:12:44 Oh. And he was like, you could tell. he was having this internal struggle do I help her or do I run the fuck away I got out of there yeah I'll go get help you stay right there
Starting point is 02:12:57 but I like that when he shot her he was leaving walking out of the office he was like oh shit I just shot that little girl yeah I mean with every it was funny I mean there was like at times I mean I laughed every time you needed to laugh were they meant to be funny I don't know
Starting point is 02:13:13 and I would like to see that that cut of him with all the stuff he cut out if there was more comedy. He says it's not happening. Because there was a ton of comedy in this. Yeah, I'm okay leaving out more comedy. I think there was the right amount because it was a lot and it was noted a lot, which is not normally a good sign, but it was noticeably a lot with the tension being so high that it kind of worked.
Starting point is 02:13:43 Yeah. but overall, I mean, I do want to see this again. I want to see it one more time on the big screen before they yank it out. Because when I first saw it, I was like, it would probably be an honorable mention on my horror list. But watching again, I'm like, yeah. I don't know where on the list yet, but it'll be on there. Maybe more on the low end.
Starting point is 02:14:05 I mean, because we did get a lot of good things. I mean, stuff you got to search for. I mean, even some short films I saw that were pretty awesome. But yeah, this one, as far as it, big blockbuster movie and it did gangbusters in the in the box office so but yeah i i really if you if i was just watched it the one time and came on here my score would have probably been lower but i mean not watching it again who knows my score might be higher after the third watch but overall i enjoyed it this is an easy top five for me because i like i just had such a blast
Starting point is 02:14:38 with this movie man i loved the like in all i don't know why i don't know why why people are bitching about it not being like true to the game or whatever because it was very video game-esque. Like the whole movie was straight up out of a video game. But it was like, it takes your average 20-something
Starting point is 02:14:58 gamer that doesn't weigh 300 pounds and sticks him into this movie. And then there it is. That's the movie. Yeah. Did you see it's regular theater or IMAX or? I just regular theater. Oh, all right. But man, it's me in dude i loved it i do want to go see it and go see it in i max the the only the only scene
Starting point is 02:15:20 that i had a little bit of a problem with uh because it was too dark was uh the break light shining over the snow and that was such a gorgeous scene it actually really was like i i i sort had a problem with it because i felt like i wasn't seeing it clearly but i think that was the point of it yeah i was to say that's probably what he's was going for. And then because when it does light up, the body's not there anymore. And it's just like a blood stain on the plain white snow. But before that, it's just break lights reflecting off all the snow.
Starting point is 02:16:00 And it's super cool looking. The other thing I really liked about him is, again, he was an average Joe. Yeah. And he just used the light on his phone. Yeah. Because there was people in my audience are like, why doesn't he have a flashlight? Why didn't he take the flashlight from the cop? You're not thinking?
Starting point is 02:16:18 Yeah. He just shot somebody and you're running for your life. And I was, luckily he was thinking enough to grab his pistol. I mean, I ought to try to grab a shotgun, but that's me. Yeah. Would have been nice if he'd have had any idea what he was doing. That's what made it. Wasting a lot of bullets.
Starting point is 02:16:40 It got better. It got better up until the final. side where he shot that broom. I kind of love the scene where they're sitting in the car or two and waiting on that chick where she gets out of the car and starts blasting zombies and then just disappears. Like, yeah, we should go. Okay. I mean, my knowledge of guns in the clips,
Starting point is 02:17:07 it seemed like she had a shit ton of bullets in that one clip because she was a whack, Whap, just pulling the trigger over and over and over and over again. As far as a police officer, what's the most you can have, if you know, in a magazine?
Starting point is 02:17:23 In a pistol, maybe 20 rounds. Damn, that many? Yeah. Yeah, I've got one that's like 18 plus one. That's probably what she had, though,
Starting point is 02:17:34 because it seemed like those bullets didn't end. I was going to say, because when he was running around the car shooting at her, he popped off, fucking 15 of them easy it's like you know how many bullets left what are you doing and the way he was shooting
Starting point is 02:17:50 every time he got a gun in his hand he was just fine he was just pulling the trigger yeah it wasn't even point because the scene when he was before he went into the the parking garage when he shot that lock he pointed it like he knew he was doing
Starting point is 02:18:06 by at that point pulled it and still shot it off to the left and I don't know about walking up on it like that. Because I remember specifically trying to do that in the game. And it doesn't work. It's great. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:18:22 All right. You guys ready to wrap it up? I'm going to do the lance. Yeah. Let's go. Yep. All right. I guess I'll roll us out here.
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Starting point is 02:19:09 Right. It's best of the end. That's what Linda Blair. Oh, all right. Linda Blair, Powers of Matthew Star. Oh, real name. October horror. We're kicking it.
Starting point is 02:19:24 And some other dude. All right. I'm sure you're going to some trivia on that one because two guys got hell of money that they were in that movie from some random stranger. But, yeah, find that story when you guys talk about it. Okay. I'm going to have to look it up now. I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 02:19:44 Next week, I'll be at Aftershock. For those of you that go to that festival in Sacramento, I'll be down there for that. So you see me there. Say what's up. Check it out. Our own reservation dog nis. Yep.
Starting point is 02:20:00 All right. Until the horror returns again, Brian. Good night.

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