The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #55: Deep Blue Sea (1999) & 47 Meters Down (2017) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: December 4, 2021

This week, we talk sharks with writer and director Nick Hunt. Thanks for listeing!

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Nick I hope you're okay with this we we can use a few four-letter words sometimes is that cool absolutely all right well this is a horror podcast and horror movies tend to be R-rated at least the really good ones we hope yours is Nick I imagine

oh yeah oh yeah it's going to be R-rated all the way actually actually everybody is going to you know just speak in expletives you know, nothing but expletive. So that way, you know, it's, you know, really entertaining. All right.

Then we're on the right track. So you guys can expect to hear some four-letter words. So, of course, I'm Lance. For you people who listen to us all the time, you know that I'm here with Philip and Brian, but tonight's pretty special. We've got a first, for the first time ever, we've got a special guest. And that would be our good friend Nick Hunt, who's a film director. writer

uh fuck what do you not do Nick um well you know I don't dance okay so I mean you know well at least you know not for free okay well you and Phil Collins are the same there because Genesis had that

album we can't dance if you don't dance yeah you know a friend of mine I'm kidding Nick well fuck yeah yeah Nick we've been trying to get you on forever dude what's going on in your Yeah? Yeah, what's going on with you, man?

Oh, man, I couldn't be happier, you know. We had the launch of the Safe Place teaser trailer just over a week ago, or actually not just over a week ago, almost two weeks ago. And it's still growing and it's still living out there. And we just got an exclusive done by Arrow in the Head and Joe Blow, which is massive for us. We're having some audio and we're having some audio, audio issues, man. Can you say that again?

Just the last half. Yeah, just the last half of it? Yeah. Okay. All right. So, you know, basically, you know, we're just getting ready for the release, or we're getting ready to, you know,

go into production here in November, and, you know, we had the pleasure of having an article done for us by Arrow in the Head and Joe Blow. That's awesome. I mean, that's something that's massive for us. Yeah. Right. And the trailer's been everywhere.

Well, tell us a little bit about the movie, dude. We saw the teaser, and I will put it to you this way, dude. Like I told you earlier, a teaser, It is. You didn't give too much away in that. And you were saying, you know, that's all good because you think sometimes trailers do give too much away too early and kind of like ruin the way. Oh, yeah. But what's the basic idea here?

Who is this fucking maniac that Ashley Mary Nunes is talking about? Well, you know, it's a very complicated answer to your question because the guy truly isn't a maniac. And, you know, without giving too much away, um, you know, everybody is going to be very multi-dimensional in this movie, and it's going to be something that's going to be really entertaining and really keep people on their toes. You know, our central antagonist is somebody that, you know, hopefully our viewers, when they're watching it,

they're not going to be sure whether or not to feel, you know, this overwhelming sympathy and empathy for the man, or, you know, feel this hatred and anger towards him. And I think finding that median and sort of, of affecting the audience in that, you know, in that way is going to be something that's really truly interesting. Sounds like you're coloring with your crayons a little bit outside the lines, dude. That doesn't sound like what I was expecting to hear. I like that.

I thought you were going to tell us this was just like a straight-up slasher. Oh, no, no, no. This is so much more than just a slasher, because I'm sure that we can all, you know, be on level of ground here that, okay, you know, our time, you know, the horror returns is sort of a point of a thing to, you know, to be on right now. Because one of the points I really want to make here is that, you know, we as horror fans have evolved throughout the times. And, you know, our storylines in horror movies have gotten up to the times. But when you think about the way that our characters are written and the way that the stories are sort of written,

you know, we really haven't grown that much in my estimation. But what if you had a horror movie, a slasher movie, that wasn't just a one-dimensional slasher. It had characters that you cared about, characters that you didn't automatically go into it knowing if they were dispensable or not. You had people that didn't make the same stupid decisions. You know, they wouldn't, you know, they would not take weaponry if they had the opportunity. You're not going to see the jock that no longer knows how to fight. the experienced tracks are that doesn't know how to run. You're not going to see the cell phones that work and with cars that won't start.

You're not going to sort of see all the things that make you want to yell at the screen. Right. You know, we're going to surprise you in a lot of ways. And we're still going to keep the normal slasher tropes. I'm going to do 200% practical effects. No CGI whatsoever in my movie. It's going to be violent. It's going to be dark.

It's going to be murky. and it's going to have this visceral, violent story that's really going to dig into the human psyche. That sounds incredible. When can we expect this one? Well, you know, we're going into production here in November, and we're targeting a tentative release in February. You know, just in time for Valentine's Day, of course. Yeah, absolutely. You in the next 50 Shades of Grey movie coming out the same week, huh?

Well, we're assuming. Oh, absolutely. you know, I think that we should, you know, do a slasher version and call it 50 Shades of Blood. I watch that. Yeah, exactly. Hey, what got you started in this line of work, man? Well, you know, most of my life, to be honest, I've done the restaurant thing, the customer service and hospitality. And, you know, the industries sort of, you know, mesh up together because, you know, you're

dealing with people. And then I also used to live in the New York and New Jersey area, and I also used to do musical promotion and, you know, put bands and artists and clubs and such. And, yeah. And, you know, I've been a little bit all over, even though I'm based here in central Florida. And, you know, about 10 years ago, I wrote this script and I never thought anything would have come of it. And there's a friend of mine that happens to work for an unnamed studio know, that happened to see the script. And he wanted to take off and, you know, you know, like Steve Miller, take the money and run.

And I wasn't too keen on that. And so I started tackling it. And ever since then, you know, about 17 months ago, we'd be going 200 miles an hour. And now we're one of the fastest growing brands in indie horror right now. we have been on virtually any and every horror magazine publication. You guys are actually my 74th podcast that I've done regarding the film. And, you know, it's just, for me, being a first-time filmmaker, it's just, it's insane. I've had the pleasure of meeting some people in this business that I never thought I would.

And, you know, it's sort of grown on me extremely quickly, and I've sort of taken to this business. because one thing that most people don't really know about me is I have no film school experience. I have no business school experience. And I also never graduated college. And pretty much up until about five months ago, I've been doing all the marketing, the casting, the location scouting, the producing, the writing, everything by myself. Wow. So are you like super excited to have this thing coming out and actually have a real fucking movie happening? I mean, that seems like it would be just incredible.

Oh, absolutely. And, you know, I was always one of those people that I always told myself that if I was going to do this business, I was going to do it right. And I was going to do it with every, excuse me, with everything all in. Because, you know, I know that the success rate in this business is few and far between. And so I'm not willing to start off with a garage movie. I'm not willing to start off with a VHS Cam Porter movie that's going to make me look stupid. No, I'm trying to build a brand. I'm trying to, you know, my movie is also unique in the fact that I, you know, have a half and half cast.

I have a cast of, you know, half of my cast is experienced in this industry, especially in the indie horror scene and the indie genre scene. And then I have the other half of my cast that's relatively. newcomers out of the central Florida area. And, you know, it's my, it's my goal to, you know, put the spotlight on everybody, especially this local area, you know, and, you know, really give some notoriety back to indie horror and, you know, really do some good things for people. Because that's what I want to accomplish. Because my end game is, you know, to have a studio to where, you know, I can cover music,

television, movies, and everything. Hey, Nick, I was looking at the cast list on IMDB, and it says you have Lloyd Kaufman in the film? Yes, Lloyd Kaufman, you know, I had the pleasure of shooting an awesome cameo for us last November in Tampa over at Paradise City Comic-Con. And it was an amazing experience. The guy is so nice. He became quickly everybody's grandfather. One of the, and it's just, you know, a lot of people ask me, how did I achieve that? You know, because the last film that he actually did prior to Safe Place was Guardians of the Galaxy.

Oh, wow. And, you know, so a lot of people wonder how I managed to accomplish it. And it was just a matter of reaching out to him on Facebook. And he loved the idea and he loved the script. And, you know, he was more than happy to oblige. And, oh, man, you know, I couldn't ask for anything. better. Well, you know, there's, you know, there's always room for the future. I have at least a dozen projects that I have in planning. Most of them in my head, you know, half of them are not on paper.

Some really exciting things that people don't even know about yet. And, you know, I would be more than willing to do something with trauma and with Lloyd in the future. Right now, you know, a safe place. It's not really a trauma film. And so I can't say that, you know, we'll be in depth anymore with a safe place together. Right. But, you know, the future is a very bright thing. Cool. So what else do you have coming up after this, Nick?

Anything specifically that you can talk about or is it just kind of like underramps at this point? Well, you know, there's a few things. There's a few things that I can talk about little tidbits. I'm actually one of the next things. that I'm going to be doing. Of course, also in the midst of writing Safe Place, too, because Safe Place is actually

the first in a trilogy of films. You know, so that's a little tidbit of information that not many people know. So you guys get sort of an exclusive here. There are you. One of the other projects I'm doing is a horror anthology, actually, called Wanderthales.

And Wanderthales is derived from the German term about fairy tales. And essentially, I am going to do something very unique. I'm gathering some of the greatest indie horror filmmakers from around the world. And I am creating this horror anthology that basically every, each filmmaker will have their own free reign to do their own unique take on either a popular fairy tale, a popular fable, or crypto zoology case.

Nice. And, you know, I have filmmakers from Istanbul, from Chicago, from Canada, from Los Angeles that are going to be involved in this. And I haven't announced anybody yet. But they have made some really big marks on indie horror over the past five years or so. And that's going to be really exciting. And then after that, I'm also working on. a script for basically what I'm pitching is

tremors on a beach. You know, yes. Fucking sharks. I want to do a practical effects monster movie that, you know, with animatronics and with

puppeteers. And it's essentially going to be you know, I want to shoot it in the middle of spring break here in central Florida on either Cocoa beach or Daytona Beach. And, you know, so we can take advantage of oodles of extras. Yeah.

Oh, man. And, um, you got me sold already. Yeah. All right. And, um, you know, I, I, it's not going to be something hokey like Shark Nato or, you know, a sci-fi channel. Um, yeah, you know, I want to do so if I'm going to do, I was said, if I'm going to do a monster movie, I want to do something that's really cool and he doesn't use any crappy

CGI and, you know, it goes back to the old practical effects. And, you know, so that's the only other project that I'm really doing outside of the safe place. Nice, man. The more I hear, the more I'm ready for it. Every bit of everything that you said gets me more excited about it. It's super stoked. Great. Sounds great.

Hey, awesome. You know, my entire goal is to make some, you know, some stuff that is unique and that people don't normally see. That goes along with my production company named Black Heart Pictures. Because it's basically, you know, whatever comes out of black heart pictures is out of the black hearts of men. You know, whatever stories are out of the black hearts of men. That's, you know, sort of what the name means. All right, dude. Well, thanks for joining us.

So what we do first on our show typically, Nick, is we start out with, we call it Cool of the Week, man. And since you're our guests, we would like to ask you first. Of course, this is assuming you've had time with all the shows. you got going on, but what's the coolest thing you've seen this week, man? The Flatliners trailer. We're going to talk about that.

Yeah. You know, I'd have to say that that was pretty awesome. You know, I was a little confused by it. Obviously, you know, when we talk about trailers more, we'll cover it. But, yeah, I'd have to say that was the coolest thing I've seen this week.

All right. Well, that makes one of us, dude. I'm a child of the 80s, man. I was kind of pissed off by it, but, you know, that's just my personal problem. It's different. I don't know. Here's well, you know, I kind of thought that, you know, I thought that Kiefer Sutherland was involved in a bigger respect, and I thought it was a direct sequel. Yeah. And I didn't even see him in the trailer, man.

Yeah, I know. It was one of those things that, you know, here's my problem with marketing, you know, the sequels that aren't supposed to be parts of the. the original story arc. You know, we saw this issue with the new Ghostbusters. Yeah, like they're reimagining. Yeah, well, what they did was is they told everybody, this has absolutely nothing to do with the previous Ghostbusters. This has nothing to do with the previous Ghostbusters.

But then the first trailer they released, the first word that popped on the screen were 30 years ago. Yes. You remember them or something like that. And it's like, okay, you're either part of the original story or you're not a part of the original story. You're either a sequel or you're a remake. You know, I don't really see a whole lot of wiggle room in the black and white there. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, Mike, Michael of the week, every once in a while we go a little bit outside, you know, just your normal TV show or film.

Like 90% of the time, that's what we cover. But as the listeners will know, and these guys, I'm a pretty avid. reader. And I actually read Justin Xavier's book, Deviant. Brian, I know, you know Justin, right? Yes. Yeah, I know he was on, he was on Denny's After Midnight podcast about a month ago. They talked about movie legends. But I went and bought the book. I couldn't get it. I've actually got a nook so I couldn't download it. I actually had to wait for the paperback to get here. But it's called Deviant. And the first couple of chapters in, I thought, wow.

this is pretty aptly named because this dude is a fucking sexual deviant. But what's really cool about this book is the more you get into it, you start to kind of realize that the title is, I think, a little bit ironic. And he's actually not necessarily the deviant. It has a lot to do with like acceptance of the way people are and the way they grow up and what causes them to be the way that they are. it's actually a pretty deep book a lot more than I thought it was going to be I don't know what I was expecting but there was a lot more I guess insightful psychology about what does it mean to be a deviant what does it mean to be different from other people should you be judged for having these feelings and these thoughts and stuff like that and what really got me what what punched me in the stomach was the ending it was an incredibly dark ending so suddenly you feel something about the bad guy man He's not really the bad guy, though. It sounds like it. All right, I'll put it to you this way.

All right, it could be. But in the first couple of chapters, I thought this dude is fucking out there. You know, because Justin really shocks you. Like in the first chapter you're reading about what this guy's up to, and you're like, holy shit, this guy's out there. And then you start to learn more about what led him to be the way that he was. And it kind of starts to kind of all come together. By the time you get to the end of it and you realize, you know, just like anybody else, the dude just wants to be loved, you know, and he has a moral compass that he sticks to,

and it's not like he's, you know, like a pedophile or raping people or anything like that. His choices are just different from what some people's choices might be. And so by the time you get to the end of it and you realize what happened to him, you're like, damn, dude, that's fucked up. That shouldn't have happened to that guy. It's a very, very dark ending. It's kind of like when we interviewed Christian Torp and he said comedy and horror were very similar. Yeah.

My two favorite genres. I can kind of see it because he, Justin Markets it as a comedy. In fact, I think he calls it like deviant a comedy. Okay. But there's a lot of horror in there by the time you get to the end of it. Good book, good read. Classic.

Man, my cool of the week, I rewatched the Force Awakens. And it was probably cooler than it was the first time. Like going back and watching the cinematography of the, whole thing where they have, like where the light shines in over one side and like over Emperor Snope and all that. Man, it was, it was great. It was, it was so much better than I remembered it. And I'm so looking forward to the, to the next one.

I didn't, didn't really expect that to happen. But I was just trying to show my six-year-old. And, man, everybody in the whole room was just dumbfounded by the whole movie. He was great. my cooler week is a couple things of course I'm still chopping away at that Facebook group list Oh yeah

We're doing that for a minute Yeah this one was from a friend of the show Patrick Return of the Living Dead 3 Which recently just got a blue ray release And it's It's okay It's got some good practical effects in it You know

It was suggested because I guess Patrick felt like it had a good, strong female lead in it. Kind of deviates from the previous, I guess, kind of storylines of the first two movies, but it was a good watch. My other one, which was kind of surprising to me how much I liked it, was Power Rangers. The movie. Oh, shit. Fuck you, man.

The new one? Yeah. Yeah. I hate that. Yeah. I hate that. Yeah. I like it.

The movie? Yeah. Yeah, I liked it. It took some chances, you know? It was fun. It was, it was, it was, um, I didn't expect it because I've never watched the show, not, not a single second of it. See, yeah, power is my thing either. Yeah, and, um, I just thought this movie was a lot of fun and it's just a really, it's a shame that it didn't make the money to generate.

I don't think it's going to generate a sequel. I've heard rumors. Oh, I, I think it has. Yeah? I think they already announced a sequel. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, because I heard rumors that because of the toy sales, it was going to get a sequel.

Because I guess they planned a six-movie story art total. Oh, shit, six movies. Wow. Yes. Lance, give it a try. It's not the TV show. We'll see. We'll see.

But, yeah, that really surprised me. That was probably my cool. Yeah, that was definitely my cool little week right there. All right, Brian. So you know what time it is now, man? Was it time for horror headlines? It's time for horror headlines, man. Yeah, speaker for myself, that was my original Batman, as far as on screen, passed away recently.

We also lost Rocky and Karate Kid director John G. Alveson. He just passed away, I believe, a day or two ago, and condolences to the family. a lot of losses this year. Oh, man, you can't forget about Glenn Healy. Oh, that's right. That's right. From Dick Tracy, you know? Yeah, that was...

That sucks. Yeah. Every week, there's like three or four new big-ass people. Well, dude, it's called life and death, man. You know? I mean, I don't mean to throw a wet blanket on it, but I mean, fuck, we're all going to die one day, right now? I mean, it's very true. You know, it's just, I think people are mostly shocked by the fact that, you know,

people like Keith Richards are still on tour. Yeah. Getting blood to refusions every other day, right? I imagine he has some sort of demonic. Hey, you know, Mick Jagger's got a 30-year-old girlfriend, okay? He must be doing something, right? The secret to life. My hat's off to him, man.

I guess we should all get to. 30 year old girlfriend. Quiet. Our wife is downstairs. We're going to walk up any minute. All right. What else, Brian? Okay. A little bit of comic book movie news.

They just announced who will be directing the next X-Men movie and it will not be Brian Singer. Simon Kenberg will direct the next movie and pretty much the previous cast

is returning with rumor Jessica Chastain. to be joining the cast. Nick, are you familiar with Simon Kinberg? Am I familiar with Kinberg? Yeah. The name rings about it. You know, it's what, yeah, the name rings about it.

I can't place it, though. Okay. I think this will be his directorial debut. I think he's done a lot of writing and producing. Ah. Oh, I don't know about that. it's not very good. Okay, we've seen what happens when we let first time directors tackle a franchise entry.

Yeah, especially if they're rebooting the whole X-Men series, which sounds like they're trying to do. Yeah, that ought to be fun. Yeah, I'm going to be fun. You know, we've seen what happens. Well, I mean, it's one of those things from what I hear. They're also looking to eventually, you know, cast a new Wolverine. and we've talked about it.

I'm sorry, dude. I don't know. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. But, you know, it's one of the things, I don't know. Right now, I mean, it's, right now, the story arc sort of reminds me of the Texas Chainsawm Massacre Story arc. There's all these prequels and in-between prequels and sequels and reboots. And I don't know what universe are taking place.

and I don't know who's still alive, who, you know, I don't know. Fair enough. Yeah, I think they need to start from a clean slate. I'm okay with that if it's a new director or whatever, but they need to, like, just completely start from a clean slate. I would like it if they went in more of a, like, comic book type of direction, you know what I mean? You mean animated or what? Well, not necessarily animated, but like a 300-style kind of thing or, you know, something along that.

that nature. I think that would be super cool. Well, you know, I'm really excited to see what they do with new mutants because they're sort of saying that it's supposed to be going like the horror route. That's what we know. And it's one of those things that it kind of, it kind of irks you when you hear about, okay, the action franchises are going to go the horror route. But what about the horror franchises, i.e., like, you know, our dark universe that are going

action that are going that are going the action route yeah and it was awful I haven't seen it yet time waiting

right it wasn't awful it was still fun but it wasn't it not what I expected it to be as long as we don't people

don't creature from the black lagoon I'm fine yeah there you go good luck buddy yeah good luck they better make that one good. Okay. We previously talked about another conjuring spinoff movie, The Crooked Man. It is now confirmed to be happening with, and it's going to be written by Mike Van Ways, who we've talked about him before. He's the one that's trying to write Wizard of Oz horror movie.

Okay. And it's, the Crooked Man's also going to be produced by James Wan. So he's still going to be. involved in this whole Conjuring universe. James won everything. He's touching everything now. Yeah. He's kind of awesome. Although, you know, I just watched The Conjuring and The Conjuring too, and still as great as the first time I watched it.

But The Crooked Man, I think, was my probably least favorite part of that movie. Even though he was super creepy, it was a little more, like, extraterrestrial instead of, like, real. you know? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm really psyched, because I heard the rumor that the next conjuring spinoff is supposed to have to do with the Warrens and the werewolf case. Oh. Yeah.

Yeah. I read a little bit more about that. Like, it's more of a, like, I think that the guy that was supposed to be a werewolf was possessed or something, and he thinks he becomes a werewolf or thinks he becomes a werewolf. Like cancer, the disease. Yeah, so it sounds pretty interesting.

I'll watch it, man. I don't think they've really gone wrong yet. And I know they're supposed to be making a spin-off of the demonic nun. And I'm totally down for that because she's, she, he, Marilyn Manson, look at the motherfuckers,

creepy as shit. I think she should get Rupy Goldberg to play the role. Oh, that would be awesome. Oh, man. Okay. Speaking of the Conjuring movie, the family from the first movie The Parents

might be getting a movie based on their story because I guess one of the daughters had written a book series called House of Darkness, House of Light, that basically chronicles all the events and they're saying that it wasn't really captured in the first movie because I guess it happened over a 10-year period. Okay, so this is from the first conjuring.

Yes. Okay. This movie has nothing to do with the conjuring series. It's going to be its own possible trilogy of movies. Huh. Okay. But same thing is interesting. Yeah, it does sound interesting because she had said basically the conjuring could not have compressed 10 years into a two-hour movie.

so right it was very interested oh yeah met these people that sounds fun that's a lot of things so um I'm actually looking forward to that I kind of wanted to see more

because I guess there was other things happen like they they um I guess they left out of the original story from the conjuring that Ed Warren they threw him out the house because of a seance that went horribly wrong and other situations

like that that wasn't really talked about in the movie. I hadn't heard about any of that. I don't know, man. See, the movie was creepy as hell. The movie was wrong. I was doing some work at a lady's house. I'm an electrician. And, like, we, she was showing me in the attic and telling me all these stories about ghosts.

And I, like, there was something moving in the attic. And I'm almost positive that it was a squirrel or a rat. That was a logical explanation, right? But that was, like, her 10-year thing. You know what I mean? if it happens a lot once it's totally different.

See, I have the same problem. We had a, you know, I had this, you know, really big colonial house over in the

New York, New Jersey area. And, oh, man, we had these terrible, terrible noises

up in our attic. And, you know, we had people investigate, and lo and behold it was just handy dick. That motherfucker

would stay anywhere. Yeah, you name it, he'll be there. I know. I'm wondering what happened to him. Do you get an autograph or like a black eye or something? Well, he was in Sense 8, Brian.

Oh, he was? He stood up in Sense 8 as he was a gay movie director that hired the one character that was gay that wouldn't come out of the closet. I totally knew to watch that. It's a great show. Have you seen that, Nick? Oh, man. My fiancé actually turned me on to it. She's devastated that they ended up canceling it.

Yeah. But, I mean, lo and behold, I mean, it was an incredibly. expensive show to make. No. Because I mean, all the locations that they actually shot in, they actually shot in. You know, and it's one of those things that, you know, somebody else made a really good point that the more viewers it got, it's the more that it costs for Netflix to stream them to the various devices and households. I read it. So therefore, it costs more for them. Yeah. Interesting. I wish they would at least wrap it up with a movie, because they

They did, on that second season, I think they tied it together pretty well in the final episode. Yeah? Yeah, they kind of had the bad guys on top halfway through the final episode. And by the end of it, the good guys were right on top, like in a position to do the end game. And then they just fade to black. To be continued, but it's not going to be continued. Is it worth watching if I haven't seen any of it? You know what?

Just to see the, like Nick is saying, just to go to watch it. I watched the documentary of how they filmed the first season. and they actually literally got the entire crew in Berlin and filmed for like three weeks in Berlin. And then they moved the entire crew to Chicago. That sounds expensive. And filmed for three weeks in Chicago. And they moved the entire crew to India

and filmed for three weeks. I mean, it's amazing what they pulled together to do this. But I can only imagine how expensive it was, Nick. But storyline wise. Oh, yeah. That's awesome. I just hope they tie it together. I'm relatively happy with her they,

end of it. They would just pull everything together and have an end game. I'd be fine with like a two-hour movie. Okay. Well, you know, I mean, it's one of those things it's going to end up on the list of one of those things that either hopefully who or Amazon or somebody will pick up the right and, you know, plead with the Walkowski's in order to get some sort of movie or to do a spinoff of the property.

and, you know, fans are, you know, fans go a long way. Look at stuff like Veronica Mars. True. You know. That came out like 15 years after, right? Oh, yeah. And I mean, I mean, look at things that are just coming back now. Like, you know, properties like Roseanne, you know.

I mean, there's others that are even being very much, you know, but, I mean, it's one of those things that it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it. It's sort of hard to calculate. But I'm confident that the brand is, that the Sense 8 brand is attractive enough, that somebody will do something with it. It's just a matter of when. But until then, it's going to sit there with heroes and Chuck and Serenity, or not Serenity, Firefly. Oh, my God.

All right. All right. Sure. Yep. But it's going to sit there with sort of, you know, that feeling of unresolved. which is unfortunate because there was actually Lance I don't know if you saw

and I don't know how many of you other guys are my friends on Facebook but there was actually a topic that I posted on Facebook the other day about that which was what was your favorite movie or television show that either ended abruptly or was canceled you know stuff like married with children

that was canceled without ever having a final episode that's a great question Brian what would be your answer to that man you know what I've seen that post and I didn't answer because I was really thinking hard about it that I'm still thinking about that one that was a good that was a good one there married with children never got a final episode yeah but yeah and I mean okay there's been rumors well okay here's the thing I mean narrative children I mean we can all be on it I mean I love married children I still I mean I'm watching I mean yeah it's one of the things that I'm

towards the ending of the series obviously so they jumped the shark, you know, when they got the seven kid. And then, you know, when they stopped, because I remember at one point, they stopped doing the opening song altogether. And they were just like squirt. I don't remember. Nick, I remember when they went to London. Do you remember that to follow them? Yeah, that was awesome.

That was hilarious when they tried to kill the bunnies. I thought that could jump the shark, dude. Oh, well, I mean, that was still, I mean, that was way early on in the series, which, I mean, a lot of people argue, I mean, it was a very up and, down the series. But I mean, there's, even with that brand, there's been rumblings for the better part of 10 years about doing a spinoff with David Fostino's character. That would be great, man. Oh, I know. But he, I mean, it's one of those things that, I mean, it's the times.

I mean, would the same jokes translate, you know, because I know me, I know that I had to, my father had to sneak me when I was a kid to watch married with children because my mom wouldn't let me watch it. And that was still around the time that people were actually calling and complaining about married with children. Oh, yeah. You know, and I remember my mother, okay, my mother, God rest her soul. She called the, she called MTV about Beavis and Butthead, okay? So, you know, I love that show. That's my favorite. So, you know, I was a little sheltered there. Okay. Yeah, well, we met, when we were at Texas Frightmare, we met Amanda Beers. She's awesome. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, she gave us the sound. Oh, Frit. Yeah. If you guys have not gotten an opportunity yet, go check out a documentary called You're So Cool Brewster, the Making a Fright Night. Oh, yeah. Okay. She totally do that.

Have you, Brian, haven't seen it. All right. It's three hours long. Yeah. But it covers the first film and the second film. And even a little bit about the, you know, terrible remake. That's not terrible I wasn't a fan

But I mean But I'm a great documentary And I mean You can tell that she's so Because Amanda Beers hasn't done anything Since married with children You know And you know

I'd really Here's you know If Amanda Beers is listening I would love to do something with you If you ever want to come out of this You know Ever want to come back into acting Did we give her a t-shirt?

Wow No I didn't get her a t-shirt we'll reach out to her on Facebook, man. Yeah. All right, Brian. What else, man? That is pretty much all we have, guys. It's been a slow news week.

We got Comic-Con, San Diego Comic-Con coming up. Right. A lot of things. Can I ask you guys a question? Yes. Did you guys hear about Adam Wingard being added as director to Godzilla versus Tong? Yes. Yeah.

I am all for that right there. I'm totally okay. Yes. You know, Adam Wingard, I love the guest. The guest is probably one of my top ten movies the last five years. And then, I mean, what he did with Blair Rich? Yeah, Dan Stevens was something else in that one, huh? Oh, man.

Dan Stevens has a bright feature. I predict Dan Stevens Academy Award winner eventually. I'm just seeing it right here. You heard it first? I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know.

I didn't know either. I think he was in Beauty and the Beast. Which one? You still spacing out in that Legion show? Yes. Oh, that guy. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

I couldn't get into Legion. I tried to, I couldn't even get past the first episode. I loved it. I watched the whole thing, and it got a little long there in the middle, but I love the whole season. Yeah, it's pretty dense, to say the least. I liked it. It was cool. All right, well, so you're in Florida now.

What part of Florida are you in, Nick? I am in a little town called Titusville. You know, you've heard of it if you're a fan of the Unbreakable Kimu Schmidt. If not... I'm not. If not, then it's known as a little town that's about an hour north of Cape Canaveral. Okay. You got any trailer parks in that town?

Yeah. I think that's Ray La Pox, yeah. Well, I mean, it's Florida. We have everything, you know. Florida's always in the headlines. Yeah, and I know you guys, I know every once in a while,

you guys will get some pretty big storms through there, right? And that's when... Oh, yeah. It's been terrible and ugly the past a week and a half or something, you know. It's terrible. It must mean something's going on with Disney or something. I don't know.

That's when the... tornadoes track you down because we're taking a little trip to the trailer park the trailer park Nick brought it up earlier I think we're going to lead off with flatliners starring Nina

Dobrev Ellen Page Diego Luna Kiercy Clemens Charlotte McKinney James Norton and of course Kiefer Sutherland Do those in flatliners? Yep All right you guys talk

I wasn't impressed No, go ahead. I wanted to also mention, I'm kind of with there with Nick. I was a little confused because it seemed like two different movies. I don't know. The tone, it was like two different tones of the movie. Yeah. But I think it started with like flatliners and then ended with something original.

Oh, absolutely. I was saying that I was talking about Kieber Sutherland and that, you know, he may end up having an integral part in the film that we just don't know about. and that might be their marketing strategy. Hmm. Oh, there you go. Okay, that's interesting. Luke Scott.

I mean, they could keep it under wraps. I mean, you know, nobody knew that Drew Barrymore was going to die the first five minutes of screen. True. True. True. And that was genius. Yeah. We got a release date of September 29th coming out this year.

All right. Oh, so, oh, that's terrible. You realize what date that is, right? What date is? isn't, man. They're going head-to-head with It. Oh, that's not going to work very well. You've got to be kidding.

That was a bad idea. Yeah, if I'm correct, if I'm correct, it gets released the same day. Nah, that date's going to change, man. Especially, that's going to change. For a movie, like Flatliners, they should definitely move that.

All right, I'm doing a quick fact check here. It is coming out September 8th. Okay, so they are far apart. but still, I mean, that's very close together, but I mean, in October, they're also releasing the nun and saw 8 back to back. Yes. Yes. Okay.

Flatliners is actually going up against the Kingsman sequel. Ooh, that's good, too. I know which one I'm picking. Yeah. Okay, so nobody's going to go see Flatliners on the opening weekend. Not me, dude. Well, I mean, they'd have to pick a weekend when nothing is coming out for that, you know? I mean...

We'll see. Like Philip said, Ellen Page is a good little actress. I just don't see this being a great movie. Yeah, personally speaking, I will check it out. But if it's going up against Kingsman, you know, I would go see Kingsman first. Oh, yeah. The only reason I'm going to check it out is because of Ellen Page, because I loved her in hard candy. If anybody remembers that one.

Nick, if you had seen that movie, man. you read my mind. Oh man, I love it. You know, nothing more than a cute little adorable girl torturing somebody. Oh, man. You know what? I couldn't watch who was the actor that was in it? He was in Fargo, remember? Patrick Wilson, yes.

Yes, I could not watch him in anything for about five years after this movie came out. Wow. I was just so sick of him. What's that, Nick? I said Patrick Wilson was amazing in Bones Tomahawk. Yes, what a great movie. The next one we're going to move into is Black Panther.

Look pretty good to do you. Okay, this is a quarter cast list we got here. We got, of course, Chadwick Boseman, Michael B. Jordan, La Peta Nyango, Denai Guerrera, Martin Freeman, Daniel Kalua, Angela Bassett, Forrest Whitaker, and, of course, Andy Circus. well um i thought this trailer was fantastic yeah i thought this trailer was fantastic

i am this this kind of moved up on my anticipation list for next year i love the music they have playing in the background man it's a cool ass trailer you know what i loved most about the trailer guys what's that it didn't but it didn't have to pack it full of other Marvel universe

people in order to keep people entertained oh yeah i didn't see it up by their home. Yeah, because... Yeah, you didn't have to put a whole bunch of other people in it from the other movies, and that shows me that it's caught that Marvel is very confident in Black Panther. Yeah, because from a little bit of research I did,

we're getting introduced to so many new characters. I don't think you need anybody else. Yeah. Well, I know there, I know we're getting... Random superheroes and you wind up like D.C. Yeah, because I know we're... As far as like villains, we're getting at least three villains introduced in this movie. Okay.

There might be a winner-s Soldier cameo because I know if you guys remember the end of Civil War. Yes. Yeah. But I think Nick, you're right. I don't think it needs it. I think they're confident enough. The director is Ryan Coogler, who did Fruitvale Station and Creed. Oh, wow.

He is good, man. Oh, yeah. I love Creed. Yes, yes, I did too, man. I was fist pumping on that scene that he was running with all the guys on the motorcycles. That was amazing. Very good movie. So I think with this cast list and the director,

and Black Panther was definitely a standout in Civil War, so I think this movie is going to be big for Marvel. All right. As long as Thomas Hayden's Church isn't one of the, three villains. Shades of Spine. You know,

and then I think will be fine. Or two for great. Speaking of big, what's our next trailer, man? I'm going to throw this to you, Nick. We spoke a little bit

about your movie earlier. You want to tell us as far as who's in it and a little bit more about the movie? Absolutely. You know, we have safe place.

The trailer obviously is out on YouTube as well as on the Facebook site right now. And Safe Place is about six students that attend a party to celebrate their friend's successful our show opening. And the presence happens to trigger memories of a traumatic event in the host's past. And he resolves to positively impact the course of their lives instead by ending them. and you know it stars Ashley Mary Nunez who started in the breakout hit

last year all through the house um Larry Jean Mamerer who started in another breakout hit from last year to Jennifer and a movie that just came out on video on demand and iTunes called Anomily that you should check out right now we have Geneviva Rossi

who's known as the Queen of Cold Horror more recently she's going to be starring in Death House with Ted Haig and Kane Hodder, Robert England, D. Wallace, Barbara Crampton, and Michael Barryman, the expendables of horror is what it's being called. Wow. We have Jordan Phipps, who starred in Richard Stringham's Close Calls.

That comes out later this year. That's becoming a very big festival hit. And we have a lot of really awesome local talents. We have Evile Sejarez, who's playing Nina. We have James Taylor, not the same. singer who's going to be playing our primary antagonists. Right.

But what if he died like the first? Chris Craven. It would be funny. What's that? James Taylor. What if he died in the first? That would have some value to. He didn't see

better and he didn't see ring. But, you know, we have a stellar you know, rest. you know, we have the stellar, you know, young cast that everybody can go on the IMB page and take a look at.

You know, Lord Kaufman, obviously, the mayor of Tromaville makes an appearance in the film. The trailer that everybody sees is something that's very unique for us because, I mean, I think I did that very effectively. without giving too much away, the trailer essentially takes place halfway through the film is sort of the point of view

of what you're getting. Okay, yeah, makes more sense now then. Yeah. And, you know, there's a lot more exciting things that are coming on the horizon for that. You got a character in there that plays Officer Hunt.

Is that in your position? Yes. No, no, no, no. That would, you know, shame your self-promotion. One of the things that I did with a lot of, a lot of the characters is you're going to see some sort of pokes and some amages. You know, most notably, which, you know, the latest article from Choblo, he called, he's like, oh, man, he's like, I love you the name of your villain,

Chris Craven. It sounds like a super good horror villain. Yeah, right. And I was like, well, you know, what it is, it's a very good, um, in memoriam to Christopher Lee and West Craven. Um, that's essentially, uh, where I got the name. And, you know, we both, we, we lost both of them over the past couple years. And that was really heartbreaking.

And so I wanted to sort of give an homage to that. Oh, um, you know, uh, one of the, the main inspiration for the villain Chris Craven is Christopher Lee and West Craven. Um, um, You know, we lost both of them over the past few years, and it was something that was very near and dear to my heart, that I'd do something to, you know, perfectly capture them. And I think that I did in creating this villain.

Awesome, dude. Well, we're looking forward to it, man. So you guys ready to move on to talk about our featured attractions tonight? Absolutely. All right, well, this week, folks, it's time to dive in to. See how I did that? Get it? dive into.

Because it's a shark. Yeah, because it's deep water and sharks, all that bullshit. The new film 47 meters down, as well as taking a look at 1999's Deep Blue Sea. So, Nick, when we talk about these movies, the first thing I do is I throw out a little bit of trivia. Give folks some background. The director of Deep Blue Sea was Rennie Harlan. Also known, of course, for A Nightmare on Elm Street 4 and The Long Kiss Good Night. writers Duncan Kennedy

Donna Powers and Wayne Powers Austin wasn't part of it The license plate Pull from a shark's teeth And one scene is the same exact license plate As the one found in the tiger shark in Jaws Anybody else noticed that? I did not notice

No Now you know 14 different visual effects houses Worked on the film Sharks That's probably in your budget you're right nick? You know, not for that extensive. You know, plus we're not using any CGI.

So it's going to be incredibly different. Gotcha. Reddy Harlan has said that Deep Blue Sea was the hardest film he's ever made. We usually, when we talk about the movie, we'd say just a little bit about it and we give our ratings. And typically, if our guest wants to go first, we give them that opportunity, Nick. Would you like to say something about this film? first? Well, you know, I love Deep Dulcy.

You know, it's always fun whenever L.O. Cool J. does a horror effort. Yeah. I'm one of few people that love his role in Halloween H-2O, despite many people saying that it was written poor and that it was poorly executed, but I love it. You know, and then Thomas Jane, you know, was great in the film. He always will be my punisher, regardless of whoever they cast in the role. And, I mean, the effects to me were great. They don't translate as well on Blu-ray, I've noticed.

But the effects are still reasonably good. I love the story. I don't like the opening very much. I think the opening was very cliche, and they could have opted for something a little bit more risque. in my eyes. Okay. Then sort of the, you know, the jaws, you know, the coming through the bottom of the boat.

It was very Jaws 2 to me, if that makes any sense to anybody. Yeah. But, you know, overall, it was a great movie. I would say, you know, I would say three out of four stars. Very good. Well, guys, I haven't seen this one in a while, and I did not get a chance to rewatch it, so we can move on to Brian or Phillip, whoever wants to go next. Go ahead and go

Yeah, go ahead I enjoyed this film I really enjoyed the practical effects of the shark I was a little taken out I see what you mean because I watched this on Blu-ray I was a little taken out by the the CGI sharks was a little off-putting to me

but overall the movie was really fun it's a movie you just You can't get too serious about it. I mean, they're genetically altering the size of sharks' brains. The cast was great. You know, we got Thomas Jane, like you said, Michael Rappaport, Stellen Scarsguard.

And a little fact I found out about L.O. Cool, Jay, the reason he survived in this movie is because they thought this movie was going to be a franchise. Ah. Didn't happen. Yeah, that's right. I had heard they released a few months ago, actually. I think it was bloody disgusting that covered the story that leaked concept art or something else that was pertinent to the film. And they were talking about a failed sequel, and I don't remember the specifics of it.

Yeah, LL was going to be the star of the sequel. That was the whole reasoning of him surviving, surviving his shark attack at the end and coming out as the, I guess, quote-unquote hero at the end. But other than that, this was just a fun shark movie. I watched a whole bunch of shark movies this week. And I didn't get that. I get creeped out by the ocean and sharks. Me too. I didn't get that with this one.

It was just more fun, more action. and I like that because, you know, it was a change of pace from other shark movies. That's true. Yeah. And, you know, I kind of like the idea, but it turns into kind of more cheesy action movie than anything resembling scary. And I kind of don't really give a shit about anybody in the movie except L.L. Cool J. It's fun to watch the way they die, though. I mean, it kind of makes. me mad that the supermodel mad scientist bitch makes it out alive. I was kind of rooting for her to get killed a little earlier. Yeah, she was not a very good.

I don't remember another movie that she was... I mean, she was hot. Don't get me wrong, but... She was hot, but she was just very good actors. Yeah. I thought it was brilliant, though, the way that they killed Samuel L. Jackson, spoiler alert, by the way. Right in the middle of his motor.

motivational speech. He's like, come on, motherfuckers, this is how it got. And there he goes. That was great. I think L.O. Cool J

was probably the best part of this movie. The ending, the whole movie was pretty decent. The ending is fucking terrible, though. I think where it really falls off the rails is where supermodel scientist, a woman with a PhD,

decides the only decision left is to cut her hand and to jump in the water because that sounds like a fucking good idea. Yeah, that worked out so well for her. Right. And then, you know, the badass shark man who of course flips around like an underwater fucking ninja and avoids the unstoppable giant shark and somehow still manages to kill him, or somehow still lives.

I don't know, man. It was definitely fun, but it definitely is not a horror movie. It turned into a scary, cheesy action thing, and L.O. CoolJ. was definitely the best part. Yeah, I mean, it did have the cheese. I mean, a parrot got eaten. Let's not forget that. The parrot was kind of cool, too. That was L.O. Cool, J.'s buddy.

All right. So, Nick, you gave it, what, four out of five stars? Yes, sir Yeah, what do you think, Brian? I'm going to I had a lot of fun with this I'm going to give it a seven Yeah?

Yeah Not bad, that's a pretty good score, man It was still fun And I got even an extra point Just because of Samuel L. Jackson And because he got eaten While he was in the middle of his motivational Like that was

Like you could not have planned that out any better It was so crazy So it gets an extra point for that. I'm going to give it a six. Nice. All right, cool. So you guys have all given your scores? I think so. All right, Nick, I'll tell you what, man.

I got to apologize, dude. We skipped the section, or we missed the section of our show that we normally cover before we move on to the big features, and that's our most important part of our entire podcast, and the only reason

literally that we're here, and that is our listeners. We're going to cover it before we move on to our main attraction. Is that cool with you, Nick? Absolutely. All right. And did you get the new, uh, the new item about the, uh, the podcast that we're doing with our, with our, uh, our friends over at binge media? Uh, believe so. All right. Cool. We got to mention that, dude, because we, we got, we got, got something going on

with them, kind of like a cross promotion. All right. If I don't, if I don't mention it, slightly me to back of the head. All right. So, uh, Stephen Loblad. friend of the show. It says, I want to thank you guys for the review of the mummy. Now I don't need to spend any money on this piece of shit. You hear that, Nick? Yeah. I may watch it if it makes it to Netflix.

If it's that bad, I'm sure it will be there sooner or later. Look, it's still fun. I put it in the same category as Suicide Squad. Ah, man, that's rough. Except I think I like Suicide Squad later. It's the thing, you know, John Landis said it best when he came out the other day and said that Universal just his lost respect for the subtlety. Wow. There's no subtlety at all in that movie.

Of the Universal Monsters, turning it into, you know, an explicit universe like telling them out to superheroes. Right. I mean, we don't want, okay, yes. I understand that the Brendan Fraser, Stephen Summers, Mummer, franchise was profitable. I understand that universal. But the simple fact of the matter is, is that, okay, with this film, you're going to hit your, you know,

13 to, you know, 21, you know, demographic. But what about all those people that are in their 30s and 40s, and 50s and 60s who love the universal monsters who aren't going to get those back? because you want to gamble with these huge leagues. And, you know, somebody had said it best, somebody else this week, it said that they would have much rather had,

or wanted, if Universal hired a bunch of indie filmmakers to make lower budget horror movies. Wow, that would have been amazing. Yeah. That would have been amazing. I mean, here's the thing. Look, okay, I just purchased a Blu-ray of the Masters Collection for Creature from the Black Lagoon.

Look at the effect from 1937. They still hold up now. Do you think that they're going to dig the Gilman suit out of storage? No. They're going to make some sort of CGI, you know, CGI creature-lifting, and it's going to take everything away from the wonder and the creepiness. and the mystique. Okay, you're not going to, I'm sorry, as great as Dwayne Johnson is,

he's not going to be able to pull off the hurt in the struggle and the pain that Lanchini Jr. did is Lawrence Talbot. You're not going to have, you know, you're not going to have Javier Bardem and who's going to be able to do the same things that Boris Karloff did as Frankenstein's monster. Right? It's just not going to work in the long run. I think it is the biggest mistake and biggest gamble that Universal is doing.

Yeah. I don't see where their head is, and I think it's going to be incredibly detrimental to the entire world of the Universal Monsters for them to go forward like this. I think they need to take a step back, and I think they need to revise their strategy. They're definitely counting their chickens before they hatch. I'll tell you that much. And then regarding our post asking for Spanish horror titles, Sean Pipes says, I like this idea, taking time and appreciating some of the great movies from other cultures.

I used to troll the shops in my local hometown, looking for little gems hidden among the other garbage. Some of the absolute best horror movies I found were foreign films. Hmm. What do you think about that, Dick? I would absolutely. agree. Yeah.

Some of the best pieces of cinema I have truly ever seen have been from overseas. You know, you want to go with the French. You can talk about everything from martyrs to inside. You talk about the Germans. You can talk about everything from frontiers. You know, the Swedish with Dodd Snow. You know, you have the Norwegians with the Freit-Vilt trilogy. Um, there's been some amazing, uh, you know, Korea, you know, um, has been an amazing, uh, force.

Um, the Dutch, uh, the Russians even, um, have some incredible pieces of horror. Yeah. Yeah. They're out. Our original and brutal and, uh, you know, different. I love, I love, I love them. Yeah. You know, they, they tend not to pull back any punches.

I like it. and then regarding the Black Panther trailer which we just reviewed this week so but Melissa Stevens said I am so ready for this movie exclamation point exclamation point exclamation point exclamation point so Lars from Denmark

says you crazy people congratulations where's the party thanks for an awesome podcast thank you Lars you demand Art Callie It says Awesome guys Congratulations

Sean Pipes Congrats and happy birthday guys Keep up the great work Really appreciate your content Our buddy Patrick Lear Says Hard to believe it's been a year Already

And the darkness is still the worst Of the worst And I'm not Nick Have you seen that movie From last year In the darkness Oh the Kevin

bacon one. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm, I, I don't remember. I think I, I think, I think, I think, I may have seen it. Um, if that tells you much, I don't remember it. It's probably for the best that you don't remember. Well, that's good. There, there's certain things I try and block out of my head. There's, you know, uh, the, the only two that are really bad that I can't get out of my head are, uh, the remake of the fog and the remake of the Wicker man. both that Wow Both did an X Oh both that an X dragged me to And I had to pay for So I actually put money in

Yeah Ouch Well you know Sometimes when you go through A traumatic experience Your brain helps you out So Well I mean

The only good thing about the Whicker man Is seeing Nicholas Cage punch The maid from two and a half men in the face So Wow All right. One other thing we want to announce this week is that we teamed up with binge media to present a very special two-part interview with David Gregory,

president of Severin Phillips, and director of lost soul, the doomed voyage of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau. To catch the first part, you'll need to download this week's binge cast at bingemedia.net or on iTunes. Are they on pod bean? I'm not sure if they're on Podbean. I'm sure they are, man.

I know they're on iTunes. Yeah. That I subscribe to it. Just look up, what, binge media? Yeah, by any chance, have you heard of binge media before, Nick? Yeah, it's actually a number of the guys that are on that podcast used to be with Joe Blow. Oh, okay. Okay, so there's some crossover there for sure, but they've actually got a show that comes out every week that's called The Benchcast.

It's a really awesome show. Sometimes they go a little bit long. That's the name Benchcast. It's been known to be three and a half, four hours before, but it's a really good show. And I actually teamed up with one of their host, and we interviewed David Gregory. Now, have you, do you remember the island of Dr. Moreau, the newer one?

I think it was filmed in like the 90s. Yeah, the one with Val Kilmer. Yeah. The one with Val Kilmer. this documentary that David Gregory directed was actually Richard Stanley who actually directed hardware as well as another number of other horror movies

had actually been signed on to direct this movie at first and if you watch this I think you'll really enjoy it Nick I think you really need to check this out dude the documentary is called Lost Soul not to be confused with the shitty movie Lost Souls but you'll be able to follow the entire story of how he kind of had his own idea of how he wanted the movie to go

but the studio sort of overruled him and ended up bringing another director in I think you're really getting a lot out of it, man. Oh wow. Yeah, I mean, it sounds pretty awesome. So, yeah. Oh, studios. Those studios and what they do to our favorite things.

Oh, yeah. Yes. I thought, I would think that you as a creative person and a filmmaker would really get a lot out of it, dude. If you get a chance, you really should see this. And he's actually the president of a distribution company called Severin Films. And I met up with him at Texas Frightner.

And they do a lot of, shall we say, yeah, shall we say exploitation films. And they re-release them and they put them on Blu-ray. And they basically give a lot respect to films that people didn't give a lot of respect to in the past. They go...

Like Screens Factory does. Absolutely. And they go way out of their way to restore them and bring them to the glory that a lot of people who appreciate those films want to see them in. So I really strongly suggest you check

this out, Nick, if you get a chance. If you look it up on IMDB, it's a mouthful. It's lost, soul, the doomed voyage of Richard Stanley's attempt to film Island of Dr. Moreau. But if you just look up Lost Soul, I think it'll come up. Or just the...

The one with the most words. Yeah, look up David Gregory, the director. You're going to really get a light out of this, man. I've probably seen it five or six times, and every time I watch the documentary, I get new insights. Yeah? Yeah, the people that were in it. And some of the stories, I don't want to give too much away,

but some of the things that Richard Stanley does toward the end, they basically kick him off the set. Okay, if you can imagine this, Nick, he was the director. He was the Wunderkin that was in charge of the entire direction of the film, and they basically came in and said, fuck you, get out of here. We don't like your vision. So he found a way to sneak.

Let me put it to you this way. It's island of Dr. Morose. You've got all these animal creatures that are basically being bred by a mad scientist on an island. So there's a lot of heavy makeup and a lot of heavy costumes. I'll put it to you this way without spoiling it, Nick. Richard Stanley found a way to get back into the film. Do you kind of catch my meeting here? Oh, interesting.

But yeah, it's a two-parter. So to catch the first part of the interview, you're going to need to listen to the Benchcast interview on Bench Media or iTunes. And then catch part two with us, the horror returns. If you already listen to us, you should probably know that. on our regular stream and as a special bonus episode dropping this Wednesday. We hope you guys enjoy that. Thanks to everyone who reaches out for us.

We love the feedback. And as always, you can reach us at our Facebook or Podbean page. Or you can email us directly at The Horror Returns at gmail.com. We love to hear from you. Let us know what's up. All right, Nick. So this is normally where we would say this is time for our featured attractions. but of course we've already talked about one, right?

This is the new attraction. We're off the rails today, baby. Totally off the rails. So 47 meters down, Nick, you did get a chance to see this, right? I did get a chance to see it. Well, what do you think, man? Well, I'm going to say that it was okay. I'm not going to see.

I'm not going to say it was great and I'm not going to say that it was, you know, terrible. Okay. You know, Mandy Moore, I'm not sure much about the other girl. Mandy Moore is very up and down to me. There's a lot of stuff in the past that I've loved her in. I love her and This Is Us. Right. Yeah.

I've also loved her, you know, I'm a little bit of a softie, so I loved her stuff like a wolf multi-episode arc on entourage. Okay. So, you know, I sort of, you know, I like her acting, you know, every once in a while. Um, but with this, it was just, it seemed like it was, it was very basic to me. Yeah. Um, it tried to, it tried to be, it tried to be an open water to me. Which, which was a really good movie, you know, and I think there was an Australian one,

or not an Australian, there was another one that was sort of like open water. water that came out a couple years back as well. Okay. And it was just, I mean, it was very uneventful for me. And, you know, I will say that the end, I will say the ending that they pulled it off really good. I will give them that because I did not expect it. The way that it was constructed left me surprised, which was good.

There wasn't anything new and inventive that I felt it was bringing to the sharp sort subgenre of horror films. Right. Fair enough. To me, shark, to me, shark movies are a lot like zombie movies. I am really begging for somebody

to really throw the ball into, into the court and create something new. Something fresh. Because I would love to see, I would love to see a shark movie plus.

I would love to see a zombie movie plus. Yeah, man, I think you, uh, I think you pretty much hit the nail in the head. I thought it was, it's probably better than a lot of the shark movies that have come out recently, except what was on Blake Lively?

Oh, the shallows. Yeah. I really like the shallows. Did you see that, Nick? Oh, I love the shallows. Yeah, I did too. I feel like it was almost on par with that, except that Mandy Moore, who is usually... Almost on par?

I thought so. Are you out of your mind? I'm saying, but Mandy Moore, who usually... You just like Mandy Moore. Well, usually is amazing. was annoying as shit in this movie. She's always annoying as shit, dude. What movie did you see,

Philip? Jesus Christ, man. I like her in most everything that she does, but in this one, she was annoying as hell. I liked her sister, I guess, or her friend or whoever they didn't really explain. Come on. And they made

some stupid decisions, you know? Stupid people, Brian. Stupid people. Oh, yeah, you go have some stupid people alerts in this one. And for a cast of like 10, that's tough. Okay. You know, and we were, and we were basically talking about how it's so hard to carry a movie with only a couple characters. Yeah. Right. And when you do that, they have to be, you know, entertaining and talented. And I just think they made the wrong choice on the entertaining factor. I think that they could have picked

two other women that would have been a lot better, that would have been more entertaining. Right. And in an age of like girl power, man, they were, especially Mandy Moore, was like super fucking whiny the whole time. And it irritated the shit out of me. Yeah, I'm, I'm, she's whiny and this is us too. Yeah, I guess that's true. I never watch it, and I'm glad that I don't, because the few times my wife has been watching it, I've been like, what the fuck is this? Milo Betta Malingo or whatever his name is. He's a good show. I love that guy.

He's a pretty good actor, but can't abide by it. It's a good show, check it out. All I have to say about this movie, guys, is that they could have picked any two other people, and I would have been happier. Brian, what do you think? I'm kind of right there with you guys. This movie, it wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. It was just okay. Nothing happened in this movie.

I thought Mandy Moore, and I believe the other actress is Claire Holt. I didn't like either one of them. I thought the reason for doing this was. stupid. Yeah, but they got to it quick, at least. Yeah, true. I mean, my thing was, okay, it literally, okay, that cage, when it fell off of its harness. Okay, okay, that cage fell maybe three inches.

And everybody was like, oh, oh, my, oh, the cage fell, oh, God. You know, and it was like they were lingering there. And it was like, why did nobody even attempt to, and then nobody attempted to go in. Right. Like, I understand that you have to make a movie, that you have to have a premise here. Yes. Come on here. I mean, there's implausible.

And I got to say, you want to talk about bad acting, man. That dude, the white guy that was up top? Are you talking about Matthew? Matthew Modin. Yeah, man. Look, okay, Matthew, Matthew Mardine needs to worry about playing SVU villains. Right.

And, you know, villains and little Dolph Lundgren action, you know, direct of video movies. There you go. Like, I mean, I know that every line that he delivered after the very, you know, first couple of scenes was through like a walkie-talkie or some sort of communication thing or whatever, but, man, it was. Yeah, that was rough. You know, you know what guys, people, hey, hold on Nick, people bitch about voiceovers in movies, right?

A lot of people say, oh, we hate hearing a voiceover because it's basically walking you through the whole thing, rather than delivering the actual movie and showing action. This whole fucking movie was a voiceover. It was like I was watching people play a video game where you hear the person saying, okay, turn left here at the next corner. Now we have the Coast Guard coming to save you. It was this fucking voiceover, this. dumbass the whole way through the movie

walking you through what was going to happen next I hated it. Here are the rules, so this is how you're going to fuck up in a minute. Exactly. Terrible. Okay, you know, me final verdict, okay, 47 meters down was about as entertaining as the

N.S. Jaws video game. Oh, I thought you were going to say the the E.T. video game with the Reese's pieces. Fuck you guys. I love that game. No, no. I know. I was talking about the John's one where I think you're starting to go around the fish. And I think that's the entirety of the game.

That was the early version of Echo the Dolphin. Screw you guys. All right, I think we're ready for scores, right? Nick, no argument there? Yeah. All right, on a scale of 1 to 10, Nick, how would you rate this movie? Four. Ouch. That's not bad.

That hurts. that's only a little worse than I would give it a two and a half Ouch Oh that's a kick in a wayvos I didn't like it I love the shallows As a matter of fact

The shallows was almost one of my honorable mentions Well Blake Lab would What do you think Brian Just because I like the ending I'm going to give it a five Wow. That I was going to say, like, I saw the ending coming. I didn't, and when she started moving her fingers, I knew.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, yeah, we're not a spoiler alert yet. But I saw the ending coming, but then I forgot about it when they started doing it. And it kind of surprised me. So based on the ending and because I thought it was a legitimately, like, tension-filled movie. And, I mean, even though sharks don't, you know, really attack like that, but whatever. Oh, the sharks were filmed beautifully, though. Yeah, no, the sharks were cool.

It had definitely a creep factor to it. I'm going to give it a five and a half. More good than bad. More good than bad, I thought. All right. Maybe we'll give better scores. Maybe Mandy Moore takes off the wetsuit next time. There you go, Nick.

We've got to have you on the show again, man. Awesome. I'd love to. You guys ready for spoilers? Yeah. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right. Who wants to go first? I'll go first. I brought up previously, I thought their whole reasoning for doing this was stupid

because she wanted to show her boyfriend. She wasn't boring. She wanted to show her boobs. What? Oh, I'm sorry. Nick, Nick threw me off. Sorry.

Well, she, I don't know. It was, it threw me off because you got that one scene where she's texting and he basically was like, I already got my shit. I'm gone. So I just thought the whole reasoning for doing it. And as soon as you see the cage,

that was the most shitty, rusty cage. I know. I don't. Call me crazy, but I'm not getting it. You're like, I hope they didn't pay these guys too much to take them there. Let's go to Ghetto, Mexico and go diving with the sharks with, you know, some people who obviously don't know what the fuck they're doing. I mean, there was so many red flags of why they shouldn't have done this. The whole, these guys they've only known for one night talking about I know a guy.

that does shark diving. Yeah. And then illegally throwing chum into the water. I don't know. Isn't that illegal? And then the whole sister relationship, how they tried to play this, I guess one of them mentioned how she felt like they were in competition.

I never felt that way at all. You know what would have saved this movie? If they would have switched Matthew Meldin, with Josh Brolin. Yeah. And if they would have put one of the fanning sisters to replace many more. Well, that's why you're a fucking director, producer and writer, Nick. You're the one who should have made this fucking film, not these dumb asses that made it, dude.

Well, I mean, okay, well, I mean, it's one of those things, okay, you know, I'll be honest with you. You know, I'm not one of those people. I'm not a fan of, you know, the remakes and the sequels and whatnot. Right. Or remakes, remakes, um, specifically. But, you know, there's a couple different things that if I ever had the opportunity to do them, that's a big if, that I would do them. And I would do them with the utmost respect. Right.

And one of them, you know, it's a good thing that you brought it up because one of the things that I'd actually been in sort of the planning stages of, and this is nothing that's really finalized yet. But about a month ago, they announced that they shut down the upcoming. reboot of I know what you did last summer. That was supposed to be done by Mike Flanagan. And I always thought it was an amazing idea because I love the book, and they steered so far away from what the book was in the movie. And so I had always told myself that I was like, well, you know, if nobody else is going to do it, I'd love to do it.

I'll attach Ashley as Julie Jones. I'm like, I'd love to do it. I mean, who else thinks that Ashley Mary Annette? and you and the star of the Safe Place trailer could pull off a better acting than Jennifer Love huge dick. Well, you know. I mean, she's pretty hot, too, so. Yeah, if you haven't checked out the SafePlace trailer, look at it. Yes.

Well, if you want better, you know, she has, she cosplays as Wonder Woman, you know. Oh, nice. I actually, so. I think I saw that. I think I saw that on her IMDB page. They actually showed some of her cosplay. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Because she's on Los Angeles or on Hollywood Boulevard. She does that. Oh. And recently she got called up to, she was on the cover of the LA Times, which was very good for us because it was a few days before we were going to release the trailer. Right.

And here she is on the cover of the LA Times because she got asked to be at the Wonder Woman premiere. Wow. Okay. Well, you know what? I think on that note, we've probably said enough about this movie, 47 meters down. Would you guys agree? Yep. We've given the devil it's due at this point.

47 sums down. Can we talk more about, let's talk more about your stuff, dude. Tell us about the process. When are you guys going to start filming, or have you already started? We were going to, well, I mean, we shot V. Kim here with Lloyd Kaufman last year. just because of scheduling. And we're going to be shooting Safe Place in November, you know, straight through,

and then we should have a finished product by the end of December, and then we're going to get into the editing and hopefully have something by, you know, the first quarter of 2018. Where exactly are you guys going to be shooting? Well, right now we're going to be shooting in central Florida, actually the town that I'm going to be in. So that's really cool.

and close to home I have this go ahead that's close to home Phillip and I are actually going to be in Panama City Beach for a couple of weeks

in September is that anywhere oh that's cool well it's going to be I mean I would say it's about hour hour and a half away but it's not too much okay so news

you're going to film that day and we're going to hang out with you cool you know what we could even do you know you were talking about having me back on the show, we're having the horrific podcast come out and they're actually

going to do a live from the set show. Oh, wow. And maybe you guys could, you know, maybe you guys come on set and, you know, do a live from the set of safe place. Yeah, man. Sounds like a lot of fun, man. Oh, yeah. And it gets you guys with a lot of

publicity because you'd get a chance to talk to some of my stars and yeah, they could work out. Yeah, I'm a big fan of Florida, brother. Yeah. Definitely. I wish I could see insane. Well, listen, Brian, unfortunately, our other host,

Bryant is in like the exact opposite corner of America. In fucking Alaska. What do you think, Brian? About Florida? You're going to make it, dude, for this year? You're going to make it, dude. You should make a trip. What do you think of Florida in general?

I have not been to Florida in like 15 years, but when I was there, I enjoyed it immensely. But it's got to be better than Alaska, right? Definitely. I've said it many times. I do not. It's crazy to say I'm from Alaska, and I do not like snow at all. But I was here. I live in New York and New Jersey.

I've lived in North Dakota. I'll have a big pass. I would have a different. Never been as well. Oh, shit. All right. Well, listen. We'll cut the serial killers and vampires out of there.

All right, Nick. So before we head out, Hood, because we really appreciate you being on with us, and I think we're done with both of our feature movies now, where can everybody find you, man? If we want to follow you on social media and check out your studios and your production company, where can we find you? Well, well, you know, first off, we can go on to Facebook.com slash safe link to the movie.

And from there, there's links to the I and D-B to our YouTube, where you can find the brand-new trailer. And there you can also read up super cool articles on all the casting crew that's involved. Every week we do this thing called Artist Spotlight, which what we do is I have somebody that writes an article up on each member behind the teams in front of the camera sort of so the audience gets more involved

and sort of gets to know the cast and crew that way it's more of a heartbreak when they die a horrible, violent death in front of their faces. Nice. That's a good idea. All right, Dave. Well, listen, we really appreciate you being on you guys

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So next week, we are going to be covering Transformers the last night. Oh. Which I am not looking forward to. I'm not really. I want to know, Nick, before we let you go, what is your feet, or what are your feelings about the Transformer movies? Well, um, I... when Shailabuff was in them. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. It's sort of a love, hate. If you go into those movies expecting a whole lot more than it is, then people will be sorely disappointed. I don't think, here's my thing.

I don't think that there's a whole lot of fuel, you know, pun intended. I don't say that. I just, I don't. I don't see a whole lot. Now, here's the thing. I think, okay, with Michael Bay exiting, there is hope.

If we get some, if we get a great screenwriter, and if we get a great director and a great producing team and a great cast out there, I think that there could be a really good, but if there's a new direction. I think now, like, you know, I would actually like to see, you know, a Transformers that was done in sort of, you know, not like a serious, totally serious way.

But sort of more of like a grounded and gritty sort of way. Like a tongue and cheek? Or? Well, no, like more of, um, do you remember, uh, death race? Of course. And then death race 2050. It just came out on Netflix. Yeah.

Wasn't as good. Okay. Picture like gritty grind house transformers. Like maximum overdrive meets transformer. That could be cool. That would be really cool, but who's going to have the balls to do it? Coming off of Michael Bay, I think it's going to have to be something big. Yeah.

Today, you know, this is our independence. What was that terrible? Never mind. I'll be tight, you talk. Oh, that was, what was it, Bill Pullman. because he had to say the line in both movies. That's right. You know?

Forget us. Keep talking, dude. I'm sorry. You're our guest and I interrupted you, man. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I was just saying Independence Day research and C.S. That happened. Yeah.

They waited 20 years to make something they could have made, you know, a year later and done just as well. but that that's that's just me i have uh you know i'm one of those people that i'm not very i'm not very fond of franchises right now because i'm very angry at what new line did to friday the 13th oh you know that's terrible man terrible with that with shutting it down um with shutting down part 13 because i read the scripts i don't know if anybody else here's read the script oh no but i see a part 13 dude why why is there not a Well, you know, well, I mean, essentially, I mean, it would have involved Jason's father.

And it would have sorted, you know, it was very violent. And it seemed, I would love to see it. But, you know, New Line got shaky leg syndrome because of the train wreck that was rings. Oh, yeah. And, you know. It's pretty bad. I don't know, I don't know. And then, of course, now you're hearing, you know all the least.

legal stuff that's going on with Friday the 13th right now, right? I haven't heard anything of it, man. Oh, well, okay. Well, if you guys don't know, okay, so what's going on with Friday the 13th is the original writer basically is exercising a clause in the contract from back in 1979. He's basically saying that he came up with Friday the 13th and that he was not an employee or that he was an

independent contractor but he was not an employee for Cunningham or for Sean Cunningham and his film company and basically he is trying to retain the rights of Friday the 13th

to go back to him and take them away from and take them away from Sean Cunningham John Cunningham is be... Go ahead. What a tangle web we weave, huh? money grab yeah

and basically Sean Cunningham is stating that Victor Miller is what's known as a writer for hire that he was simply hired as a one-off to write to the script

for Friday of the 13th and that it wasn't affiliate that he wasn't affiliated with the production company at all and so they're in legal and so they're going back into court this week I believe

and hoping that they'll come to some sort of compromise because if Victor Miller wins. I think it was the Hollywood before that did a really good way of sort of simplifying as people.

Essentially how it, you know, worst case scenario is that either we will only be able to see Friday the 13th movies done by foreign film directors that literally we will not see any domestic

releases. Or or they will be forced to do Friday the 13th without Jason or without any of the original story out. Wow. They would have to throw it all out. It's basically, I don't know if you remember a few years back when they went through the whole bullshit with Jason and Friday the 13th and the rights.

That, you know, Paramount owns the rights to Friday the 13th, but New Line Cinema and Sean Cunningham owned the rights to the Jason character. That's when they started changing the titles of the movies, right? Yeah. It's just like with Chuckie and Child's Play. New Line Cinema owns the right to Child's Play. Seed of Chuckie, whatever.

Whereas they couldn't call it Childsplaying. Whereas Don Mancini owns the rights to the Chucky character. Correct. You know, and so it's one of those things, I mean, it sucks because these people are greedy. And, you know, I mean, it's 30, you know, 37 years after the fact. And, you know, Victor Miller is putting it in jeopardy of us probably, you know, if it goes through, there's a big chance that we'll never see Friday the 13th again. And that sucks. Because, you know, me, I've always been one of those people.

If Jason, if they made Jason versus the Golden Girls, I'd go watch it. You know, Jason had to get one of them in a, like, sleeping bag and slamming. against the treaty, that would be funny. Betty White would kick his ass. Yeah. Okay, make Betty White the final goal. Blanche is slapping my face. You remind me of our friend Kevin.

Our friend Kevin Nez is up for any Friday the 13th. Am I right, Brian? Yeah, buddy. Yeah, I got... You guys want to know something hilarious and ironic. Yeah, listen. We're all ears, man. This morning, I was filming for...

Or I was recording for the Mac and Nez podcast. Look at that. Really? Yeah. Holy shit. I got breaking news from Kevin Ness. He just, he just messaged me about 47 meters down. He wants you guys to know 47 meters down is a stooge.

A stooge? What? What do you know what that means? What the fuck is he talking about, man? You're a stooge. I'm taking it he does not like it. Do me a favor. Tell him that Nick Hunt's asking if the construction never finished.

Okay, we'll ask him If the construction ever finished No, because he had to stop recording Because of construction outside of house Until we have to reschedule And I'm kidding, Kevin, you're not Stoge You're my buddy All right, well let's say

Let's go back to where we were So next week you're being covered Transformers the last night Nick this is a first dude We have never gone this far into a conversation in the last literal paragraph of our show. I know, right? Congratulations, my friend.

You sent us places we've been before, man. Like I said, you guys are like my 73rd or 74s. And, you know, it gets better every time. Yeah, we hope we're your best. But we're also going to be covering maximum overdrive. So before we move on, we've got to ask you, Nick, what do you think about the Stephen King? He made a short story of trucks,

and they made a movie out of it called Maximum Overdrive. Did you like it? I loved it. I'm a big Emilio Estaviz fan. Yes, sir. Even some of the lesser stuff like Men at Work. Real estate, man? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. But, you know, and I'm actually, I'm really good friends with the guy who did all the vehicles for that. What? For maximum overdrive. he he's actually all over Facebook green goblin green goblin trucks

and uh you know he he's he's a great guy and uh yeah i love the movie and you know what that actually still holds up um i heard that i heard that they were doing a reboot of it with michael bay and i am praying that that was i am praying that that's just some sort of rumor that you know that came out of like the windy Williams show or something.

They're just going to blow it up. That to me is like saying, okay, we're going to make Die Hard with James Franco. Wow. And Robert Gany Jr. is going to direct. You know, I mean, yeah, yeah. All right. Well, as we like to say here when we're signing out, until the horror returns again, Philip. Good