The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #58: Chronicle (2012) & Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: December 18, 2021

This week, Melissa Grace from 2 Dead Chicks joins us to talk about accidental superpowers. Thanks for listening!

victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. For all of you who delight in dread,

fantasize about fear, and glorify gore, as they say on blood drive, welcome home. This is the podcast that proves that the horror never ends. Each episode, we seek out and review a brand new horror, movie, and then we go back and find a classic work with similar themes, looking at both

similarities and differences. And as you all know, if you've listened for any amount of time, it's not always a horror movie, as is the case this week. Our goal here is to explore how our perceptions of fear remain the same from generation to generation, but we also want to point out how the presentation of the film can change based on the social and political climate of the times. We do include spoilers for the new film. However, we will wait until the very, very end of the show to spoil the new feature,

and we will let you know before we do so with a spoiler alert. Now, if you don't wish to hear the spoilers, just turn us off at that point, and we promise you won't miss a thing. We generally assume you guys have already seen the classic film, so there's always going to be spoilers when we discuss anything that has been out for at least a year. The other thing that we may do from time to time is use a few four-letter words. This is usually a horror podcast, sometimes a superhero. Yeah.

Today it is. But I can almost guarantee you that there's going to be some four-letter words, probably not too far removed from this sentence. Yeah, well, there are a few in the Spidey movie, so I guess we can do it. But horror movies do tend to be R-rated, folks, so you can pretty much expect us to be, too. I'm Lance, and with me as always. are my co-host, Brian and Philip. And tonight we've got a very special guest here in the THR studios.

She's all the way from Music City, Nashville, Tennessee. It's Melissa from Two Dead Chicks. How's it going, Melissa? Hey, y'all. What's going on? I felt like I need to use y'all in there at some point since I am from Nashville. So now we got that out of the way. You fit right in here. You fit in, Texas.

I don't know what Brian says in Alaska, Brian. y'all Brian may as well be from Houston he's got family and stuff here all right well Melissa tell our listeners all about two dead chicks what you guys do where we can find you you know

all that kind of stuff so two dead chicks is the podcast that I do with one of my best friends Kia and basically we dissect each episode of The Walking Dead and you know kind of talk about it from a lady's perspective and we do

do a lot of really horrible impressions of Daryl and, you know, just have fun. Talk about how many times we would have died per episode. That's kind of our thing. That's where the two dead chicks came from. I like that. So we've already died like 85 times. I don't even know. Like it's obscene.

But yeah, we're on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, Iheart Radio. Pretty much anywhere you can find your podcast, just look up Two Dead Chicks. And you can also find us at Two Dead Chicks.com. Awesome. Well, we always start our show traditionally with something that we call Cool of the Week. Actually, so I just finished the season five of the show Wentworth on Netflix. Have you guys heard of it? Is it Australian or British? It is Australian. Yeah, it's Australian.

I have heard of it. I've never seen it. Oh, my gosh, y'all. It's like it makes Orange is the New Black look like Sesame Street. It's dark as book. Yeah. Somebody else is telling me to watch that, too. It's so good. Yeah. And each season gets progressively better.

And I feel like you can't say that about a lot of shows. They usually have at least one or two slow kind of seasons in there. But this show, it's insane. It's so good. Cannot say enough good things about it. Let's check that out, man. That made me my next thing. I think the only thing that I've watched,

this week for Michael the week though is shameless also on Netflix although I think it's a showtime show or some shit but I don't know I think so my wife is my wife is stuck on it so I've come in and watched a few episodes and I think I definitively hate and love every character in this thing all at the same time

yeah I've seen a couple episodes of it I know what you're talking about the worst people on the planet is what they are really good But in a lovable way, right? Yeah, they're really lovable, but God damn it, dude, like, every decision they make is bad. It's like when given the opportunity, they just make the bad decision every time. Of course, it just keeps the show going. What about you, Brian?

Oh, my gosh, I've seen so many movies since we last recorded. It's been a long week, huh? Yeah. Well, and you're still working on a list. Yeah, well, I did get one movie off that list. another one from Kevin Reform School Girls with Wendy O. Williams.

Really? Yeah. Like the talk show host? No. No. Wasn't she in a punk band back in the day? Okay. Yeah, she was in a punk band.

I got to. Listen, you know what band she was in? What now? Do you know what band Wendy O. Williams was in back in the 80s? I do not. Our listener, Darren Will. Wilson will know and he will tell us. Yeah, because he's a punk drummer.

Oh, okay. We'll wait to hear from him. I'm not even going to Google it, Darren. We're going to wait for you to tell us. That'll be our listening to feedback for next week. Oh, what else did I watch? I'm going to go with one that probably surprised me the most because I did not like the first two movies was the new triple X movie.

Really? Yeah. It's basically fast and furious. It's basically. I'm kind of waiting for a mashup. Like, maybe that could be the next Fast and Furious movies when he finds out he has a twin brother named Triple X. I'm all for that. But like, oh, Brian, Ice Cube and Vin Diesel?

Yes. Oh, man. But, yeah, that would probably be my most surprising because I was not a big fan of either one of the first two. So that's probably my cool right there. Yeah. Well, I was, uh, check it out. I was on a plane. for like 24 hours total between going to Europe and back.

So I got to, I read two books and I probably watched four or five movies. I was going to say high rise. I don't know if you guys have seen that movie High Rise. It's like so fucking bizarre that it was. Tom Hiddleston. Yeah, it's an all-star cast, man. Really? Yeah, it's a really, it's a really great cast.

I've ever even heard of it. But I think my cool of the week and you guys are probably going to, You didn't think this is a little odd for a horror podcast. But my wife and I, when we were in, we spent the one day in Paris and that night, and we actually went to see the live Moulin Rouge show. Oh. It was fucking amazing. I was not expecting to like it at all.

How can you be mad at that for a cool of the week? The colors, the colors that they used and all the costume changes. Yeah. I'm sure the set design was real awesome. Set design was amazing. The burlese show. It was kind of like, I think it's kind of like the precursor to Cirque de Soleil, because, I mean, it's been there for a lot longer than Cirque de Soleil, has been out,

but I can see a lot of similarities. You know, that and ass. Yeah, lots of ass, lots of tits. There you go, really? Imagine that. Yeah, yeah. No, all kidding aside, it was a great show. Cool.

So that's the cool of the week. all right so we're moving on uh brian what time is it man all right um save me i don't know if we need this but we are getting a grudge reboot huh and this is coming from director nicholas pesh and i did not write in my notes he just previously did something that we won't see oh the eyes of my mother the director of that movie no I'm kidding. Yes. Then I will give it every opportunity. Have you seen that movie, Melissa?

I have not. It's actually, it's kind of a darling of this podcast, wouldn't you guys say? We'll talk about it almost every week when where the other. It's super quirky and weird and creepy. That sounds like me. I need to watch it. And it's on Netflix. Yeah, it's on Netflix.

Go check it out. It's a really good movie. It's definitely slow. And it's not funny at all. You're going to finish watching it and just kind of stare at the screen for a minute and go, what the fuck did I just watch? But I think it's worth it. Lionsgate is in talks to pick up the rights for the new Hellboy movie, which is currently filming right now.

Okay. And we are definitely, they said it's definitely going to be a gory R-rated movie, and there are going to be plenty of practical effects, which we've all talked about. We need more practical effects in movies. Who's playing Hellboy? Yeah, no Ron Perlman, huh? No, I can't remember the actor's name. He is the sheriff in Stranger Things. Oh, right.

Oh, that guy? Come on. He kind of has the look. His face kind of has the look, I think. You think so? Does it? Yeah. That's what I said, does it?

He's going to be under heavy makeup. I'll reserve my judgment. That's true. That is fair. That's fair. I don't know about that. I mean, I'm all for it. I mean, we're getting another hellboy.

movie and it's going to be actually R-rated instead of PG-13. Well, that's good. At least horror movies are, or comic book movies are going the way of, you know, real movies and getting real with it. Yeah. A movie that was done filming, like, at least a year or two ago, Leatherface, is finally getting released, October 20. Is this the one where he's, it shows him as a teenager or something? Yeah. I can skip on this one.

So. Do you hear about this, Melissa? I'm sorry, what? Leather face, where he's, uh, it shows leather face as a teenager. Yeah, that's going to be interesting. I don't know how I feel about this. What's the point? I'll watch it.

I'm interested. Really? Yeah. We'll see how it goes. I don't know, man. It's hard to tell just for an idea. True. Yeah.

Yeah. It's theaters in VOD on October 20th. Still don't have a trailer for it, though. Oh, okay. And video on demand? Concern is not real. Deep Blue C2 is filming as we speak. And it sounds like a piece of shit.

Really? Nobody from the original is returning. And it is going to be on the sci-fi channel. Oh, well, yeah. I don't know. The sci-fi channel has had a bit of a renaissance lately, I think. With sharks? No, well, yeah, obviously the Shark Nato movies, but, you know, they've got, like, I was,

earlier I referred to Blood Drive. Yeah. Have you seen that yet, Melissa? I have not. Oh, was that on sci-fi? Yeah, Blood Drive is on sci-fi. And I don't know how they get away with all the F-bombs in there. Brian, you've seen it, right?

Yeah. cable landscape has completely changed, I guess, as far as what they're allowed to do now, huh? You can thank South Park for that. Is that what happened? Yeah, they were diverse ones dropping F-bomb. Okay. Wait a minute, they can say fuck on sci-fi, I'm confused. Oh, yeah.

But if they can't say it on AMC, why can't they say it on AMC? That's what I'm wondering. I was wondering the same thing, because it would fit right in. I mean, that's what everybody, that's what so many people are pissed off about with Negan's character, right? is that he's not allowed to be Negan from the comic book. Yeah. Oh, that's annoying. Very annoying.

Yeah. No shit. I am going to write a strongly worded lettered A&C. I'm going to use fuck a lot. That's probably a good idea. That's probably the right way to word it. Yeah. Especially to the censorship committee.

That would go over great. Come on, Phil. How is you going to get the point across, man? But, no, hold on, Brian. So, sci-fi has the experience. expanse also. Have you guys, has anyone seen the expanse? Oh, that's with, uh, no, yeah, it is in my Q. We met him at the, uh, Comic Calusa.

Yeah. But yeah, Chad Coleman, you, you will know him very well, Melissa, from the walking. Yes, yes. Yeah, and oh, also, he played on some dumb, like Michael Jackson, like, biopic kind of movie on Lifetime, which was horrible. Well, hey, you got to work. It is my time. Right.

But, yeah, I was like, oh, Chad, what are you doing, bro? Come on. I've got to eat, right? I guess. But come on. This is some shit. Right. What a, oh, um, also coming from sci-fi, uh, they just greenlit the pilot for tremors, the TV series.

I heard about that. So it's really happening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, starring Kevin Bacon and produced by Blumhouse. Okay. Mm-hmm. I'm not mad.

at that. What channel's it going to be on? Yeah. Sci-fi. Well, there you go again. That's why I asked. This one, I'm more confident in this one. They're actually putting a lot into it as to oppose the Deep Blue Sea sequel,

which I don't know who's in it, never heard of anybody who's in it, or... I mean, if Kevin Bacon's on board, then I don't think I could be mad at it. No. Can't be too bad, right? And, okay, what do we got here? Streaming channels or streaming services that are compete when Netflix are developing more and more TV shows.

Amazon's got a zombie comedy show starring Evil Dead and Don't Breeze Jane Levy. Yeah, it's going to have Jane Levy and Glenn Close. Glenn Close. Has been casted. Is she a zombie? She kind of already looks like one. Oh. I'm sorry, that was mean.

She's been really pretty in a couple of movies. Jane Levy's also been casted in Hulu's series Stephen King and J.J. Abrams series, Castle Rock, along with Sissy Spasek and Melanie Linsky, who we've all just seen Melanie Linsky and I don't feel at home in this world anymore. Yeah, she's great. She's great.

Yeah. She was the only good part. She was the only good part of that anthology movie, X, X, X. That's one of the ones I saw on the airplane, too. Oh, right. It was very, meh. Yeah. It just wasn't that great.

I kind of felt the same. She was good in it. Yeah. It was, yeah. Yeah, that was a fun segment. That was a fun segment. It was obviously more comedy than, you know. Yeah, I don't remember the whole movie, but I do remember I liked one or two of the

segments were pretty decent. So yeah, that sounds like a pretty good cast. So is Sissy Space Set going to ironically play Carrie's mother or what? You know, I'm hearing she's going to play somewhat of a character that is in that whole universe. Interesting. That would be a turnaround, wouldn't it? That'd be kind of funny. Yeah.

No release date on that series. or the Amazon series. So I'll keep everybody posted, and that is all the news we have. Big names on TV. All right. Well, so Melissa, now, you live, you're pretty close to Nashville, Tennessee, right?

In fact, I am. I am in Nashville, Tennessee. Actually, you know what? We may get a chance to go by and have a drink with you because my wife and I are going to come out there next June. We're going to the... to the, what are the music awards that they have up there? CMT, I think, is the one that they always do in Nashville.

Yeah, the CMA Fest. Yep. Yes, yes, CMA. I'm sorry. We will be out there. We'll be out there next. Really? Yep, yep.

We'll be out there for, actually, we'll spend three or four days there, and then I think we're going to spend three or four days in Memphis, kind of a road trip type thing. Awesome. Yeah, so we'll check it out, but I'm guessing that y'all got trailer pox up there. A few, a few. One or two? Maybe not as many as many is here in Texas.

Okay. Not a lot, but there's definitely some. All right, well, as with every show. Before the Tanada hits them. So we take a look at the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird, probably more often than not. Right.

Brian, what's our first new trailer to talk about this week? We are going to talk about another wolf cop. Another wolf cop starring Leo Fafard. Amy Masayo and Jonathan Cherry what did you guys think about this one

first of all let me ask who all has seen the original Wolf Cobb that was going to be a nice question okay I've seen it I think me and Brian then huh what you think Brian I didn't like it as most people did

it was okay yeah it was a little hyped. I mean, there was some, you know, good, good effects in it here and there, you know, it has some good funny moments, but it's not nothing I needed a sequel for. What did you, what did you think about the metham the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, metamorphosing scene. Oh, I mean, like I said, they did some different things in this movie. Right. They did some different things in this movie. So, um, some different. I don't know. No, it looks like the same things going on as in the first movie. So this is probably not something I'm going to rush out to see. I'll tell you what, though, coming from somebody who's never heard of Wolfcott before,

I was kind of impressed with the trailer. It looks super funny. Well, hey, Kevin Smith gave it an endorsement. Right. He was in the trailer. What are you thinking about this from, Melissa? I was like, what did I just watch? I know.

I thought I was watching an ad for the trailer until it was over and I was like, oh, was that it? That was the actual trailer. Yeah, I was like, I'm so confused. Yeah, a little bit out there, huh? A little. Yep. Definitely comedy horror. Definitely, definitely.

Low-budget finest. Well, I will put it this way. You guys know how I feel about The Void. and a lot of people really love The Void this year. So in my opinion, this could be at least not the worst Canadian horror slash. Oh, wow. You're a part out there against the void. I'm just guessing.

I'll watch it, but I'll wait until Netflix. Because I know the first one's on Netflix, so I'm sure that if we're patient, that within six months from now we'll be able to see this one there as well. Oh, yeah, dear God, I don't plan for sure. I don't even think that long. So you won't be in the theater with your loonies and your tunis and going all the way to Canada to see it, huh? No. Okay.

All right. Next one we're going to talk about is the cult of Chucky starring Brad Duroff, Fiona Duroff, Andy Vincent, or Alex Vincent, I'm sorry, and Jennifer Tilly. Which I have not a clue. How is she in this series still? she died right yeah she died but i mean she's still there spoiler alert so i mean she was in the uh in the stinger at the end of uh at the end of the last movie so why wouldn't she be in yeah i was confused

uh yeah um what did you guys think because i i don't know oh i don't know about this one i can't wait i cannot fucking wait chucky is probably my second favorite uh villain of all time after freddie Krueger. Oh, wow. So yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. Melissa, what are you thinking? Look, that damn doll scares the fuck out of me.

I don't, I'm not here for this. I hate that thing. Like, no, no, he's not back. I refuse. I refuse to, no, I don't want to be a part of this. Lace dressed as Chuckie for Halloween last year. I sure did.

I'm near you, sir. Little known fact. And then My wife was Tiffany. Oh, yeah. Remember? Yeah, yeah. You were the punishment. She was pulling it off.

Yeah, that was fun. I will tell you this, Jennifer Tilley, she's had a lot of those, she's actually a professional poker player. And you catch her a lot of, yeah, you can catch her a lot on ESPN playing poker in some of those tournaments. And for her age, she is still gorgeous, man. And my wife, I asked my wife, I said, do you think she's had a lot of work done? She said, I don't really think so. You know, she doesn't really, it looks kind of natural. Yeah.

So if she did have any work done, it was like natural looking work, you know. She had a very good plastic surgeon. She didn't fuck with her face. Whoever fixed Chucky, let me put it to you this way. Whoever fixed Chucky after two movies ago is not the same plastic surgeon that was done. That's for damn sure. But yeah, I cannot stress how much I'm looking for to this movie. I got to say, looks like another Chucky movie, you know?

I'm down. I'll watch it, but it's going to, I'm sure, fall into the mix of all the 15 of them. No, there's not 15, Philip. Come on, dude. I believe it's getting a straight to DVD release date. I saw that too, man.

October 23rd. Jennifer Pertillo. I'll be there. I'll be there. And probably the biggest trailer to come out in the past, well, I guess a week or two, um, Jumanji. Welcome to the jungle.

Yeah. The only redeeming quality about this was the rock. Period. I'm not mad at it. I'd fucking suck. I, when I, they actually showed this before Spider-Man and I thought I was watching. I literally, honestly thought, is this a remake of the breakfast club? Oh, I did too.

Yeah. No, it looks like breakfast club in the jungle. It does. Melissa, what are your thoughts? Okay, well, honestly, my knee-jerk reaction, when I got this one from you guys, I was like, is that really? Like, they're making one of these, why are they doing that? Yeah. But it's actually kind of cute.

I mean, it's funny. Like, there was definitely a good comedic value there. I liked seeing, you know, like who's going to correspond and play each character, like each kid. Like, I thought that was cute. I was like, all right, all right. I can do it. Mm-hmm. I'm not mad at The Rock in this role.

And a lot of times, I kind of don't like him in those super. cheesy, you know, like Disney kind of movies. No, he's great in those movies, man. The Game Plan, the Tooth Fairy. He's awesome in those roles, man. I feel like you're being sarcastic, and I just don't know. No, I'm not being sarcastic at all, dude. They're very heartwarming.

I mean, he's awesome. I would have probably left, I would have left the Tooth Fairy out of that one. It was funny, dude. It was funny. It was ironic. I guess you guys don't understand the irony of seeing the Rock and a Two-Berry costume. I'm with you. I'm with you on the game plan. I'm with you on the game plan, but you lost me at Tooth Fairy.

Yeah, I can't even help you with Allen. I'm sorry. I don't mind him. That's cool. No, no, no. That's all right. The irony flew over everybody's head. Get it?

No. I got it. All right. Because it's ironic. It's not supposed to be taken literally because the Toothbury has wings. Jesus Christ, guys. How do you, how do you guys feel that this is not a reboot? This is a sequel.

sequel um i think it's better than it's not a reboot yeah they're they said they're gonna pay homage to uh robin williams in this okay that's good i mean they should you know he robin williams has had a lot of awesome awesome roles over the years this the or jimji wasn't my favorite of his but if they're gonna pay homage to him i'm i'm all for that it's got a hell of a cast i think it'll be funny

yeah i'm i'm a i'm a i'm a little down on kevin heart i feel like he's in too many things no pun intended yeah but now he's back to short jokes you know where's the rest of my body i love that i lost two feet that was funny that was funny well hold on i think i'm the same height he is hold on now before we go too far into the short jokes i don't know Kevin hart's pretty shorted But yeah, it's, I will definitely see it. Probably enjoy it. But I, not unless Brian, unless you make us see it for the podcast, I probably You know what?

I had an idea. I had an idea because we, there is nothing coming out during that time. Every time you get an idea, why do I seem to suffer? You always think that. Well, this won't be suffering because I think this is an opportunity to bring. the kids back on this one. Okay. Oh.

Okay. That'd be fun. So I do a double feature. This one and the original. I was throwing that idea out there. I'll suffer through it for the kids. For the children.

Release date December 20th. Okay. So Christmas time. Oh, December 20th. Oh, cool. Maybe we can do a couple of Christmas babies too or something.

All right, we'll see how it. I like it. All right, and that is our last trailer. Now, wait a minute. Hold on. Before we move on, I'm on IMDB here, and I see the director. All right, we're looking at Jemangi. It's actually officially called Jemongi Welcome to the Jungle.

Okay, good. He's actually three inches shorter than me. I feel better. Okay. All right, so we're looking at, let's see, Jake Kassel. Is that Lawrence Kasden's son? I do not know. He's the director.

It kind of makes you wonder. He's produced a lot. Okay, I'm not even going to look any further into it. Listeners, if you can let us know, is Jake Lawrence Kasden's son? Because he's done some great movies. Then I'll give it a chance, and we'll send you a T-shirt. So the first person who can send us an email at the horror returns at gmail.com and answer that question for us.

T-shirts coming your way. Unless, unfortunately, like Marcy, you're in Australia, and it costs us like $100 to send it to you. In which case, I think Brian may have a few codes for you we can provide. Yes, sir. All right. That's some digital download codes to give away. Fair enough.

Fair enough. So. She's getting an email with it and says no. Yes. Is that it for the trailers? Yes, sir. I don't think so. All right.

Gene's reviews on YouTube. You can find him by going to YouTube and typing in, Gene's Review's Regular Dude. And Regular Dude is all one word. These are short film reviews from the point of view of a regular dude. Always quick and easy to watch, and we recommend checking them out. Cool. All right.

Shout out, Gene. Yeah. Love watching your reviews, man. And I think he's coming around to Eyes of My Mother. He's seen it a second time. So let us know what you think about that, Gene. It's definitely got some weirdness. On the Horror Returns group page,

Beau Burchell from Tennessee posted, I'm really excited about the gunslinger coming out. So much as I am reading the first two books again. He's talking about the tower, right? Right, the dark tower. Absolutely. I'm reading The Went Through the Keyhole right now, which is kind of like a little prequel.

He says he looked at the cast for this. Am I the only one a little awes? off by the fact that McConaughey is playing the man in black. I feel like a better fit would be like Ray Leota or someone like that. Hopefully I'm not wrong. Hopefully it's a great movie either way. Okay. My opinion, he's a little off.

McConaughey is going to be brilliant. I like McConaughey. Who in our group that's here with us tonight has seen Killer Joe? Ah, yeah. Oh, I've seen it. What do you guys think? You know, it didn't really hit me. I love Killer Joe.

It didn't hit you? Are you fucking kidding me? It wasn't bad by any means. You should have won an Academy Award that year, dude. Nah, I'm telling you. That is some of the best. Creepie. It's so sinister, so creepy? Yeah, definitely creepy.

Creepyest scene ever with a piece of chicken. Oh, wow. Melissa, have you seen it? I've got to go back on my channel. No, but now I'm very intrigued. Oh, you're going to be super intrigued, man. You've got to check this movie out, Killer Joe. And it's actually directed by the same director who did the original

The Exorcist. Oh. Yeah, Friedkin. So, yeah, you've got to check it out. Have you ever seen Bug with Ashley Judd and Michael Shannon? Oh, I saw that. Yeah. Yeah.

Same director there, too. Okay. Kind of got the same vibe, super, super dark. But McConaughey is a genius, and I think he will be perfect as the man of like. I wish Jamie Sheridan could come back and reprise the role like he did in the stand, but of course he can't because he's passed away. But, yeah, I think McConaughey will be great, man. What do you guys think?

I don't really know the character a whole lot, but I wasn't too impressed by him in the trailer. He just, he didn't, you know, they're just, they're describing him as worse than the devil. And I'm hoping that they just didn't put those scenes in the trailer, which is probably a good thing because they put too much in trailers these days. But I don't know. I don't see him playing this kind of character. I don't know. I like the likeability of him. I like it.

What do you think, Melissa? I mean, I think he can do just about anything. I do, too. Yeah, and that voice, he can turn from sexy to sinister in no time, right? That is so true. Hey, I was going to do a dude and be that guy. He heard it here first, folks. All right.

I do like Idris as a gunslinger, though. He looks badass. Oh, I know. He looks badass, but he doesn't really, again, he doesn't really sound like him. I don't know. But again, we've only seen a few seconds, you know. So I'm willing to give everybody a shot here. All right.

In our poll of which is the best Chucky movie, we got 16 votes for the original Child's Play. I think 17 now. Oh, really? Yeah, I think somebody else's. Seven for Child's Play, two. Four for Bride of Chucky, and one for the curse of Chucky. It's looking like the original Child's Play is going to be the one we pair with the cult. I think that's smart just because it's the original.

Makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if that's what our listeners vote for, then yeah. Sounds good. All right. Here's our boy, Lars, from Denmark. He said, you never read the French Valerian comics from 1967, with like an excellent. Point and a question mark.

Right. Oh, that's Lars, right? Coming from Lars. Says they're awesome. And they were a huge influence on Star Wars. Huh, look at that. Lars also commented, wow, what a great review of the Day of the Beast, since he's the one that told us to watch it.

It's a Spanish horror flick. You haven't checked out that episode. Go back and do it now. We'll be here when you get. So happy you guys liked it. I agree. It should be a cult classic. Everyone should watch it.

And to answer your question, spoiler warning. So in case you haven't seen the Day of the Beast, go back and watch it now. The rich thugs beating up the homeless people were the Satanists who were preparing the birth of the Antichrist. The priest is searching for them the whole movie. It all makes perfect sense now. But he figures it out too late. And yes, Hollywood should totally remake the Day of the Beast. my take looks like this

Sam Ramey should direct I'm not mad at that Okay Dan Fogler should be the metal guy Yeah okay I'm cool with that too Dan Fogler Yeah

He's uh I can't think of what else he's good As you said Well I think Jack Black would be good too Anyway okay Paul Giamatti as the priest Bruce Campbell as the occult TV guy Oh yeah And uh Vanessa

Huggins as the Virgin What? I hope he meant that ironically. He meant that ironically, right? No, no, she'd be great, though. It's very ironic in the movie. It's very ironic. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. All right, we're coming around full circle. He just wants him to whore up Vanessa Hudgens a little bit, but she may be a little too innocent. Oh, I don't know about that, man. Let's make it happen. I like Melissa's idea that that's definitely ironic. And we definitely have a winner for next week's film.

Our online poll garnered 21 votes for War of the Planet of the Apes and only five for Wish Upon. So, Apes it is. I wanted Wish upon, but we know where one of the votes was. Right. Wish in one hand, shit and the other. And two, because I'm pretty sure you got your wife to vote for it. All right. Okay, asshole. Move on. Thanks to everyone who reaches out to us.

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because it's a play on the Babadook. It's an old joke, man. But Jay, thanks a lot, brother. I really appreciate the cards, man. I'm going to, like I was telling you through Messenger, I am going to be redoing our garage into a game room with a pool table and a video game console and a dartboard. Really?

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So tonight, we are going to check out, well, as we always have a theme, Melissa. So this week, our theme is accidental superpowers. Wow, wow. That could have been teenage superpowers, too, right? Same thing. In this case, yeah. So we're going to start out with Chronicle, which actually didn't come out very far back. I think it was 2012, and then we're going to talk about the brand new Spider-Man Homecoming,

which everyone's been looking forward to. And if the crowd where I saw it at 2.15 in the afternoon where there was not a seat available in the theater is any indication it should do quite well. I would imagine. Yeah, I read it's going to do very well. Not a shocker. All right, so as always, we start out with a little bit of movie trivia. chronicle directed by Josh Trank and he is also known

for 2015's Not So Hot Fantastic Four Jesus Christ And not much after that There's a reason for that All right Writer was Max Landis Son of John

Son of John Landis And he is also known for American Ultra And the TV series Dirk Gentley's holistic detective agency I thought it was like a good show. Like Robin Hood. Good show. What do you think, Brian?

I'd never got a chance. I've read all the books. How is it? I'm not, well, if you read the books, then I can't. Well, I never read the books, but I enjoyed it. It was very quirky, fun. Every episode for me left me wanting to watch the next one. I loved Elijah Wooden in it.

I liked his character. Oh, he's always good lately. Yeah, he's been picking a lot of good. lately, so it's a good show. Cool. Recommend it, definitely. Melissa, have you seen that? I have not.

Okay. I'm going to check it out. I just, God damn, there's so many movies or TV shows in the queue. It's just like, I've got to take a deep breath here, you know? There's so much to watch these days, which it's a good problem to have, you know? So moving on to trivia, Chronicle was inspired by various comic books and superhero movies. of surprised. I would have assumed that it was based on an actual graphic novel, like most of the things we love are, but I guess it's not. So after the film's release, cast members Dane Dahan and Michael B. Jordan went on to star in big budget superhero films.

DeHan, of course, played Harry Osborne and The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and Jordan went on to play Johnny Storm in the Not-So-Awestown, Fantastic Four remake. Director Josh Trank Made Dane DeHan, Michael B. Jordan, and Alex Russell live in a house together for 15 days in order to create a genuine bond between the three actors, which I think is

kind of cool. So we do have another tradition here, Melissa, generally when we have a guest on. And I'm not going to say too much about this one, because I saw it when it first came out, but not since. So I'm going to leave the discussion pretty much up to you three,

but if you wish you have the opportunity to go first, would you like to do so? Sure. Oh, okay, I don't like this movie. Well, there you go. I enjoy it. I will tell you that. I did enjoy it. It's not a masterpiece, but.

It definitely is not that. But I cannot get away from the fact, like, all I could think about was that Andrew kid looks like Leonhardt. or DiCaprio like on drugs. Like at the end? That's all like I was like, this is what it would look like if Leo went ape shit crazy. Right. And then the other kid looks like, oh my God, what's that guy?

James Franco. Okay. To me. I don't know. Sure, sure. Has the Franco look, huh? Yeah, yeah, definitely. So I'm like, what's going on here?

Like, what are we channeling here? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I did like the appearance of what is his name is Michael Kelly as the father he's got to play Doug Stamper and House of Cards Yes yeah yeah he's He's creepy in House of Cards isn't he

Yeah he is he's not real great here either Not exactly winning Father of the Year over here Right so yeah no I mean It's not my favorite But I don't tend to like movies that are done in that amateur shot kind of way

you know like we're recording it ourselves and I'm just not here for that what'd you guys think Brian? I enjoyed it honestly I probably enjoyed it a little bit less than the first time I viewed it I know this movie should probably be

an after school special about bullying because keep bullying someone that could end up a super villain. Right. There you go. I like that. I like that. I like that concept.

Um, this is probably one of the few movies I actually like Dane Dahan in. I'm not a big Dane Dahan fan. You and Kevin. Yeah, that guy, that guy, he ruined the green goblin for,

for a while. I disagree. I mean, he wasn't that bad. Um, I like Michael B. Jordan in it. I didn't really like the other kid.

What was his name? Yeah. He was kind of bland. Yeah, he was like super vanilla. Yeah, and I didn't understand. I didn't understand his character. He was supposed to be philosophical or something. And then next minute, he seemed like he was high all the time.

He was a little bit of a douchebag. Yeah. But I like the effects. I like the whole, them trying to figuring out that their power is like a muscle and they have to work it out. I like that whole aspect of it. Right. Yeah, I enjoyed it for the most part. For what it was?

Yeah. You know, I actually was kind of pleasantly surprised by this one. It's been a while since I've seen it, so forgive me my reviews not specific. But I thought that I liked the relationship that these guys had, and I think that they did, like the found footage thing right. I agree. I agree, yes. I hate found footage. I like found footage movies.

Maybe this was pretty good. Yeah, see, I like found footage movies. That may be why I like this one so much more. As far as the relationship, I was a little confused because when you get introduced to Michael B. Jordan, it's like Dana Hahn's character, didn't even know him and the cousin were even friends at all. Then they came off like they was such good friends. And I don't know. I thought it was a little odd.

But he also said that he wanted to be a politician. So this guy is, I mean, Michael B. Jordan is friends with anybody. I can't remember what his name is in the movie. But I think that he did that. He accepted this kid that was kind of a loner. Yeah, like a loner and sort of getting picked on and whatever. And, I mean, this dude is obviously super popular head of the football team or whatever. And I like that he was just immediately buddies with this guy.

Right. And then they had like a real guy kind of relationship. where they kind of fucked with each other sometimes. Yeah. Like throwing that baseball at each other's head? That shit was funny. Some reality. Yeah, I like the stuff they was doing, the little pranks they was playing,

because that's probably something I would be doing. Yeah, that was cute. And then, yeah, if you couldn't see Dane DeHan, that evil-looking motherfucker turning into a bad guy towards the end of it, then... Yeah, you're missing something up. Kind of saw that coming the whole way. They did a great job of foreshadowing.

Telegraphed, yeah. But I really liked it, man. I thought it was super funny. It was a different take on a superhero movie. In a time when superhero movies were kind of at their peak, you know? Right. Which also is now. No shit.

Well, I mean, 2012 wasn't that long ago, really. Right. Five years ago. Yeah, but I mean, you're in the midst of Avengers and stuff like that, and then they come out with this. Mm-hmm. So. Brian, were there any particular scenes that stood out to you or that you remembered particularly well after watching the movie? Um, one thing that I really, that I just now notice is, um, as much as they was trying to hide their powers,

they would often use them out in the open. In the middle of the, yeah, in the diner scene where they're, they're stirring their coffee with the spoon without using their hand. And nobody ever notices anything. Yeah, I was thinking, they're moving cars and the waitress isn't going to like come by and be like, hey, that's fucking weird. That's what they, they were, they were pulling like a lot of pranks early on and stuff, right? And speaking of the waitress, speaking of the waitress,

she was rather calm a couple minutes after just seeing the Virgin Mary that he made in the syrup. She ran away screaming. Then the next scene, she's pretty calm until her little thing to bust the dishes rolls away.

I don't know. I just felt like people around them were, someone had to notice something. Right. Who would think? Or in the middle of a parking lot, outside moving a car, probably something that's a little bit noticeable. And, you know, fine.

What do you think, Melissa? As far as, like, my favorite scene, I'm going to have to go with really just, like, his epic, like, meltdown at the end, like that temper tantrum where he's all cracked out Leo. And, yeah, I mean, it's pretty badass as far as that goes. But, you know. Rikilo Ren could have gone. Ah, good analogy there. I like that you guys pick this one to do alongside Spider-Man because it's, I mean, the themes are very similar, but I mean, like with great power comes great responsibility. But, you know, each person has used it for different things.

This guy obviously used it for dark and twisty purposes, you know, whereas Spider-Man decides to use it for some good. I like it. Cool. Yeah, because the character, Andrew totally mistook what his mom was telling him about that I'm stronger than this. I'm stronger than all of this. He took it somewhere else completely. Yeah, that kid's definitely got some inner demons. Just on a regular basis.

He was talking about like he doesn't drink and stuff. Man, he looks like he's been heroin. He's been on heroin his whole life, you know? Yeah, he does. The dark circles under his eyes and stuff. Right. Yeah. All right.

Well, you guys, I think we're all excited to get onto Spider-Man, aren't we? Yeah. All right, so scores. Melissa, anything else you want to say about this? listen before we move on to our score. We do a 1-10 scale here. Nope. I think we're ready to rate it.

Okay, we're waiting for you. Okay. I'm going to go with, I'll give it a 5. Ouch. No, not bad. Like, three down the middle. As good as it is bad. It's not.

Yeah. I mean, our scale here is kind of like, if it's five, it's like, yeah, me. 5.5 basically means more good than bad. Nice. and then you go from there. Brian? Oh, my turn. I'm going to give it a very soft seven.

I really like the effects in it. Most of the characters I liked, like I said, I didn't like the cousin. He's just very forgettable. Yeah. And yeah, I'm going to go with a seven. You know, cool. I'll give you that. And I'm going to.

he was very forgetable, and I did kind of forget about this movie until we did it again. But just from remembering when I watched it, I got to go at least seven and a half. Like I kind of almost want to push it to eight. Seven and a half. That was a good movie, man. I was really different. Melissa, let me tell you something. I don't know how many of our shows you've listened to, if at all.

I love you. No, I have. Philip loves everything. Yeah, everything. I'm Mr. Positivity. most of the time. You are, and it's funny because as I've listened to you guys, like you're the one that I definitely identify with more typically.

Like I'm like, I'm always going, yeah, yeah, what he says. That's right. All right. Cool. We like that, man. We hope everybody identifies with someone here. We hope no one identifies with me. The gloomy Gus, right?

I'm the Simon Cowell of the group. Are you gloomy Gus on this one? You know what? I'll give it a score. I'll give it a six and a half actually. Okay. Which is pretty goddamn high. Yes, it is.

But I just haven't seen, I don't feel that I'm justified in rating it because I haven't seen it since like probably 2013. Right. But I remember enjoying it a lot. I do remember it being found footage kind of done right, the right way. Right. It was believable. They didn't have like six, until the very end fight scene.

Well, yeah. Yeah, that kind of lost me. Yeah, yeah. Like, how do they have, what, they have, like, the cameras were on, like, a, uh, they had the cameras moving around or something like that. They definitely got out of the found footage area on that one and were like, yeah, picking and choosing what kind of shots. It went out of control, right? But they did have power, so they could have had those cameras floating in the air, whatever. So it's kind of leave.

You're doing too much. You're doing too much. No. All right. I'm going to whoop this dude's ass, but just in case I want this camera up here to see it. Right. No, you're doing too much. No.

All right, you got me on that one, Melissa. So, we got a five. We got a seven and a half. We got a six and a half. Spider-Man Homecoming. What did Brian give it? Seven. Oh, not too bad.

All right, cool. So for the most part, we recommend it, unless you're Melissa, in which case we're like, eh. If it's free on Netflix, check it out. There you go. Okay. Spider-Man Homecoming.

That's really why we're here, right? Yeah. Director John Watts, and he is 50-50 with me because he is known for Copcar, which I absolutely loved. Still never seen it. Oh, dude. You want to talk about a sinister Kevin Bacon? It's a good movie, man. And it did a really good balancing act.

And you know what? I see that in this movie, too. He does a great balancing act of not showing kids as idiots. He actually shows the children. When he shows something from a kid's point of view, he treats him as adults. He doesn't treat him as kids. It's from the kid's point of view. Absolutely.

And he isn't like dumb down or talk down to him. So Copcar was really good at that. And he also did, unfortunately, one of my bottom five of last year a clown. But, you know, you can't win them all. Think of a depressing clown noise. Now we get into what I call the D. danger zone of summer movies, which is the writing staff. Oh, no.

As our listeners know, anytime we have more than basically one writer, I get really worried. Okay, writers of this movie, Jonathan Goldstein, John Francis Daly, John Watts, Christopher Ford, Chris McKenna, and, for good measure, Eric Summers. Damn. Aye, aye, aye, y, that's a lot. Here we go. Here we go. Okay, now who had control of this movie?

Was it Sony or Disney? That's the other thing. What the fuck? Okay. From what I read, this is Marvel's, is in control of the creative. Okay. And Sony is basically benefiting the most financially. They're there to put their name on it.

Yeah. Okay. That makes sense to me. I just was curious. All right, we'll knock a couple of trivia items out, and then I know we're all excited to talk about it. So, J.K. Simmons had previously expressed interest in returning to his role of J. Jonah Jameson, which, of course, he played that in the original Sam Ramey trilogy.

However, once he was cast as Commissioner Gordon in Justice League, that was pretty much off the table. Jennifer Connolly voices the Spider-Man Computer Karen. I was wondering who that was. Okay, cool. Makes sense. Makes sense. Her husband, Paul Bettney, had voiced the Iron Man Suit computer Jarvis.

Oh, that's cool. There you go. Kind of neat, keeping it all of the family. And going back to the Man in Black, Matthew McConaughey had expressed interest in the role of Norman Osborne the Green Goblin. Oh. Trying to talk them into making him the villain of this one. Which obviously got written out. Yeah, that wouldn't have worked.

All right. Once again, you're our guest, Melissa. You want to go first? I loved it. I think Tom Holland is the perfect Spider-Man. After that, I was like, Toby McGuire, I don't know her. I don't know. I'd like pull the more I carry moment.

I don't know her. Right. I loved that they kept, like, I mean, it was like old school, like high school version of Peter Parker. And that all of the high schoolers looked like high schoolers. I know that that is like such a novel concept in Hollywood and when you have like 35 year olds playing 15 year olds. But I loved that. And it made it feel so youthful and real. I loved Ned.

I thought he was fantastic. Just everybody was, I mean, stellar performances. I thought the writing was on point. I loved it. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. I can't disagree with you.

I can't disagree either. I'll say that I'll say that I'm sold on this guy's Spider-Man. Right? Fucking hate. And I'll tell you, I'll tell you something else. I had a little tiny twinge of a problem, believe in Keaton. Because for him to go from just a working Schmo, Joe Schmoe, to all of a sudden this supervillain, I was kind of like, I'm not quite sure I'm believing this.

But then the way he wrapped it up in the Stinger at the end? Yeah. Yeah. I do believe that's him. Michael Keaton was fucking genius. Tom Holland was genius. I am going to say that the good points are their performances, the storyline. I love the coming of age storyline.

There's a scene at the end, which we'll talk about in spoilers, that he was in a little bit of trouble and he got himself out of trouble. Literally, I was teary-eyed. I really felt emotion in that scene, and I loved it. And I don't get that all the time in these superheroes. movies. Yeah. You know?

But I would say that the things that kind of almost brought me out of it a little bit is anytime it showed Spider-Man and he was like moving quickly or something, a bit on the CGI side. Did you? I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I'm glad you guys did.

See, normally I'm the one that catches that shit because it drives me crazy. Yeah, that kind of bothered me a little bit. But acting and storyline, phenomenal. Was the movie fun? Hell yeah. I really love the intro, the way they started it with a film by Peter Parker. Yeah. That was so cute the way they did that.

I love the end credits, music, and videos that they were showing at the end of credits. I love the tie-ins that they were doing with different things. I love some of the Easter eggs that were going to get into in spoilers. I'm finally sold on Marista Torre as Aunt May. Right? Yeah. I was not the last time. Aunt May is supposed to be an old crone.

She's not supposed to be sexy. But now I'm sold. Marissa Tomey is sexy. So overall, that's my takeaway before we get into spoilers, which I got a lot to talk about. Yeah. Philip? Man, yeah, I'm pretty much in agreement with all of that.

It was very pleasantly surprising. Like, not even so much surprising, because I knew it was probably going to be good and fun. But, man, I really enjoyed this one. I thought,

like you said, Tom Holland killed it. I did not expect that much for me. Right. He nailed that Spider-Man persona. I love what Lissa said about they're actually like it, is their actual high school kids.

God forbid, we never fucking see that, you know what I mean? But it wasn't cheesy. It wasn't like a Disney movie. No, not at all. Or a Disney channel show.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And I wanted to get into one of the characters, but we'll get to her later in the spoiler section. Yeah, I like his love interest. I like the whole

you know, trying to juggle school and extra junk on top of being Spider-Man. Yes! Yes! Yes! They nailed it, didn't they? They nailed it. They nailed it. I loved him more out of costume than in costume in this movie. Yes. Yes. And that's hard

to do. That's hard for them to accomplish. It is. Very well done. There is a scene at the end, stick around. It's super fucking funny. And I, just like the last scene of the movie, not, not spoiling anything, is great. I love the way that they ended that. That shit was so awesome.

It was awesome. Every, like, there were so many moments in this where my whole theater was just erupting with laughter. Now, the guy next to me was... Oh, yeah, the comedy was amazing. Right. Yeah, well. This is better comedy than 99% of the quote-unquote comedy movies. I've seen in the last year. And it wasn't.

And it's real laughs. Yeah. It actually wasn't as forced as even Guardians of the Galaxy, which had some really great comedy. Right. You know? But I loved it, man. This was one of my favorite superhero movies, period. Brian?

All I got to say is, just like I said, Gal Gadot is my Wonder Woman. Tom Holland is my Spider-Man. Definitely. He blows Toby McGuire and what's the, model did they try to make him look like a model? Andrew Garfield. I still really like him, but he's not anywhere close to it. You know what I like to make Garfield

is he got the, he got the patter down. Because the Spider-Man I remember from the comic books, very smart ass. He always had these little smart-ass comments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But guess what? You know what? I'll see your Andrew Garfield and raise you at Tom Holland. Yeah. Because he got it much better.

Yeah, he absolutely did. I can't argue. I thought I don't think I have one problem with anybody in this movie as far as acting. I love the story. It was funny. It was emotional at times. And yes, Lance, I spotted a whole bunch of Easter eggs for possible future movies. Also, also some callbacks to the MCU previous movies that I'll bring up in spoilers.

But yeah, I'm going to just cut right to it because I want to get to spoilers. This is my Spider-Man movie. This is what I've been waiting. for her. Yeah. Very good. Well, I think it's safe to say we're ready for scores and move on. Yeah, let's do it. All right, Melissa, scale of one to ten. I'm going to give it a nine and a half.

Very good. Nice. Strong! Strong! Is it on me now? Yeah. It's going to sound like a bummer after what you just said. Okay, so I gave Guardians to a seven. Right. Remember? Yeah.

Everybody fucking busted my chops for that. Because it was an awesome movie. I've been hovering between something and a half and the number that I am actually going to give it for like the last 24 hours because I wanted it to really settle and make sure that I really enjoyed it as much as I think I did. But talking to you guys,

and for me, this is a good score. I'm going to give it a solid eight. Okay. Solid eight on ten. I'm cool with that. I'll kill you. Yeah, if you were going to give this one a seven, we'd have problems.

I was hovering between 7.5 and 8. Actually, I'm 8 for sure. I'm going to give it the same score I get Guardians. I'm going to go 9 and a half. Whoa! Okay, so just before we get into spoilers. But it's better than Guardians, dude. Better than Guardians 2.

It's not better than Guardians 2. It's not better than Guardians 2. It's hard to compare them. Maybe a little. Two totally different movies. Maybe a little. Anyway, Michael. I say the acting is better.

Michael Keaton's character, I actually really like. Kurt Russell was totally underused in Guardians, too. I liked that they didn't go too much into his story at the beginning, but they gave him a reason for who he was. Exactly. Because if they didn't, they didn't kill us with the origin story again, right? Just when I was starting to think, man, this movie's getting long, then it was over. And then I was like, oh, man, it's over.

I love the way they started it with, with, uh, with, uh, with a, with a Civil War movie. Yeah. That was fucking genius. Yeah. They showed the Civil War movie, and this is, not for spoiler territory. This is in the first literal 10 minutes of the movie. Oh, they've already released that before the movie came out. You know what?

I love the way they did that. And there's some other continuity stuff that they set up in this movie that are going to have repercussions for the other Avengers movies, which we'll talk about later, but those, I love the way they did that. They had the balls to do it. They were in the universe. In other words, he's in the fucking universe now. They were in the universe.

It was nice. Absolutely. I loved it. They didn't do this. Oh, well, I saw a guy in green fighting a guy that was, you know, held in a hammer. You know, they didn't pull that bull. that bullshit like they do on the TV shows and stuff, right?

They're talking about, oh, there was an incident somewhere, someplace, la, la, la. No, they fucking dove right into the Marvel universe. I loved it. I loved it. Sorry, guys. Who was talking? Who did I interrupt? Philip, you already gave your score?

I gave my score, man. Not an half. All right, I am right there with you and Melissa. I'm going to give this a 9.5. Oh, really? Wow. That's like I said, this is... It's a lot of top five list this year.

Yes, this is everything I've been waiting for at a Spider-Man movie. Yes. Not even just Spider-Man. He is Peter Parker, too. And because that is... Almost like Batman and Bruce Wayne, you're playing two different characters. And he did everything I wanted in this movie.

And I'm like 9.5. I can't wait to see him with the camera. You know? Yeah? Like, fun around doing the news reporter thing. The Daily Bugle shit. Yeah, yeah. It's coming.

It's coming. If they can keep it going, for sure, guaranteed. All right. Spoiler time? Yeah, let's do it. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right, cool. who wants to start you guys a lot that they want to get off their chest can I just say I love that they put

the Spider-Man TV show theme song in the beginning that was awesome dude yeah so cool that was my that's gonna be my music choice for the opening of the show that's good

the whole uh all the music was fantastic in this yeah it actually did really good I love the closing credits music Blitz Creek Bob that was great Yes. One of the things I really loved about this is he just kept fucking up throughout the movie. Right.

And I love that. Just because he's Spider-Man does not mean he's going to just save the day perfectly every time. He's a 15-year-old kid. Right. And yeah, even I thought the one scene was funny that he thought he busted a carjacker and was someone trying to get into their own car. Yeah. And just little things like that. just made me enjoy this character even more. And I don't know.

Do we want to get into all the Easter eggs we've seen, Lance? Yeah, let's do the Easter egg thing. Lance walked out for just a second. Oh, okay. How do you guys feel about the reveal at the end, Zendaya's character, saying my friends call me MJ. I loved it. See, we're not getting the traditional Mary Jane, though.

Her name is Michelle. That's what I was like, wait a minute. Her name is Michelle, and she looks like, you know, the angry girl from the breakfast club. Yeah. But I kind of like it. I like her vibe. I loved her character in this. I don't know how well she's going to pull off an MJ, but if this movie is any indication, I'm sure they'll do it well.

Yeah, I think it's going to be fantastic. Yeah, but that's what I want to talk about. Yeah, I have no problem with them switching it up for the move for the MCU. And I thought that she did a good job. either. I'm sold on it as well. Yeah. I love the twist, because I thought she was going to be the pretty girl and the popular one from the beginning, and they

really, fucking pull the rug out from under some out. Right, yeah. So, I mean, she did great in the, you know, four scenes that she had in this movie, but we'll see if she can carry with it as a love interest on the next one, maybe. Yeah, I like her. My granddaughter's

always watched the TV show that she was on the Disney channel, and I always thought she was a pretty good little actress. Yeah. And I think she's, she pulled it off. I mean,

she had me believe and she was like the outsider, which she gave the finger. Yeah. That was fucking amazing, huh? You know, yeah, that was pretty funny. You know what's funny also?

Is that she was in that Disney show, have kids, don't, don't judge me. With, with a chick that actually could have pulled off, MJ. Oh, yeah, the redhead.

The red-headed, that's what I'm afraid to. Big, big, busted, like, typical Mary Jane. Mary Jane. Absolutely. Like, no, I'm doing this.

Yep, completely different. I love it. Yeah, I liked it. No problem with that at all. The scene I wanted to talk about real quick that was, like I said, the one that really hit me in the heart was when, you guys remember when he got tricked? Because, I mean, what I love about this movie is that he's learning. Right. So it's like a right of passage type movie.

and he got tricked by Michael Keaton and he ended up getting his wings to go around and cut all the columns out in that building and everything collapsed on him he said fuck you you know basically he laughed

and he said you're done and that's the moment he had to pull his inner strength out mental toughness that's what he had to know exactly what that spider bit and body could do and he pulled it out and I love that scene

great scene because he underneath the movie Underneath that rubble, he went from a little scared boy to a man, in my opinion. Yeah. Very well done. You can lay there and give up or get up and fucking do something about it. And he did.

He sure did. I loved it so much. Melissa, what would you say was your favorite, who was your favorite character besides, of course, the two main ones? Ned. Yeah, definitely. I love that. He was great. The guy in the chair.

the guy in the chair when you get caught by the teacher in the computer lab room like I'm like he's going to say porn he's going to say porn I'm sitting here saying to my husband like he's going to say porn and like sure enough he said porn and my daughter asked me what that was

oh no now that is the one thing about this movie listeners they do have a few four letter words just like we do on our podcast so be a way Yeah, because as soon as he said, as soon as he said porn, my theater just broke out laughing. And she turned and looked at me and was like, what does that mean? Yeah, ours erupted in laughter.

It was crazy. Okay. Well. That one in that final scene. My own. Where Aunt May comes in and sees him in the spitey shoes. Oh, yeah. What the fuck?

And they stopped it at right of the up. Oh, man, that's great. I do wish Donald Glover had been in it a little bit more. I like this character. Yeah, he will be more. Really? Because his character, in the comic books, his character is also known as the prowler. Oh.

And do you guys know who, do you guys know who Miles Morales is? Nope. He is the ultimate Spider-Man right now. Okay. Ah, okay. He is the uncle of Miles Morales. No kidding. The uncle.

So we could, and he does mention his nephew. When he helps out Spider-Man, he says, I do have a nephew that lives in this neighborhood. Easter egg, huh? Yeah. I was going to ask you if there were any more of them that maybe. Oh, there is. That was a big one, I'm sure. Actually, hey, Brian is our Easter egg.

We need to do a sounder for Easter egg alert. I think if I find one, we'll throw it in right here. Let me check the timestamp. Hold on. Brian, what are all the other Easter eggs, man? Let's see. Did you guys catch the callback to the Howling Commandoes from Captain America? Of course, of course.

The grandson or the son of the Asian Commando? Yeah, sure. He had the picture of his great, great, great grandfather on the file cabinet. Oh, no, I didn't catch that. From Captain America. We just watched that a few weeks ago. Nice. We got introduced to the score.

Scorpion at the end? Then I did not. I was wondering who that was, yeah. The Scorpion. Yeah, that is Matt Gargan. He will be the Scorpion, and he kind of mentioned other villains, possibly the Sinister 6. Oh, nice. Well, there's what else we got.

They're taking Spider-Man and running with it. Now, hold on. What's up with a venom? Where does venom fit into all this, guys? That's what's going to be to be. Yeah, now, after saying that's part of the universe now, Kevin Fagy, the president said it is not part of the universe. So, which kind of makes a little sense because, uh,

there's just no way you're going to have this version of Spider-Man in an R-rated Venom movie. Yeah. It's not, it's not going to work. Yeah. I was hoping they wouldn't, but, no, I, I don't think he will be, and I'm okay with that. Yeah, and there's no way you're going to take the R-rated venom and then put them in this Spider-Man, a Spider-Man sequel, it's not going to work.

So obviously, Spider-Man is probably going to be in the next Avengers movie, yeah? Oh, they said the sequel to this movie after Avengers 4, Tom Holland's going to lead the next wave of Marvel movies. He's going to be the guy. So, but he's going to be on the, on the, on the, on the, on the Marvel side of things? Did they, like, own Spider-Man now? They worked at a deal. Sony still owns the movie rights, but Marvel, they, Marvel's the one that's making these movies.

If Sony knows what they're doing, but for how long? Who cares, dude? Just fucking go with it, dude. Who gives a fuck right now? If Sony's smart, they'll keep it going. Exactly. Yeah. There's no way.

Dude, there would be so many goddamn fucking cards and letters. Well, that's what we used to say back in the old days. In what movie? I mean, do they bring Venom over to the Avengers franchise? Okay, hold on it. Can I put a pause on it real quick? And ask Melissa, our guest, something?

Yeah. Yeah. Have you heard of Tom Hardy being the new Venom in a new Venom movie? I had not heard about that. Okay, I want to know what your thoughts are on this. Because we've discussed it Ad Nozam. So what do you think?

It's going to be an R-rated horror movie and Spider-Man's not going to be in it. Huh? Yeah. Exactly. What do you think? What do you think? I don't, why?

Like, why are they doing that? Isn't that why I'm sorry? Because it's Sony. Sony does not know what they're doing. Clearly. That does not need to happen. Let's, let's put it. Let's,

can we stop that? Let's don't. Do you know what I found myself thinking, uh, towards the end of this movie, I was, I was kind of jealous that they haven't, that,

Disney hadn't gotten a hold of the X-Men and done what they've done for the Avengers with the X-Men. I wish so much that it was better at this point. Yeah. But see, what I'm hoping for is because they're talking about this movie domestically over the weekend's going to make close to $100 to $120 million. Wow. I'm hoping that companies like Fox who own the X-Men who own Fantastic Four are like,

okay, let's make a deal. Well, let's keep the rights to it, but let's let Marvel make these movies from now on. Marvel Universe should just be its own studio. It has all the Marvel characters. Holy shit. What an idea. I like the way you guys are saying

that they put Marvel in charge of the creative part. I mean, let's face facts. Creativity and writing is what these movies are all about. They're the fuel that fuels everything. Well, they got the biggest company on Earth. supporting them. If they let the smart boys and the smartest guys in the big room make the decisions on the story and get the story right, and then they could just sit back and count their money.

And then you don't come out with things like suicide squad. Well, Melissa, you might have liked that. Sorry if we offended you. I actually really like it. It was all right. I would have given it like. I had to give it like a six and a half maybe. Bet it more good than bad.

Okay. I mean, a little more good. And I mean, that's real, yeah, strong, little good. Right. In the right hands, how good would that movie have been? Oh, it could have been fantastic. Right. David Ayer is a great director, though.

He's done some fantastic movies. How good would the X-Men be if they gave it to Marvel? I don't know. I mean... Yeah. They must have told Ayer, you can't do this. You can't do that. Bah, blah, blah, da da da.

Because he's made some really good, gritty California, you know, a lot of corrupt cops. And he's made some great movies. Yeah, the Fury was great. The Tank movie with the Fury? Fury is what it's called. Oh, did he direct that too? Yeah. Oh, well, there you have it, man.

So, I don't know. You guys want to quit talking about this so we can move on to a little bit of Walking Dead talk. before we let Melissa go. Roger. Hey, what do you think about fear of the walking dead? I don't think about it. Anybody got any other spoiler-riffing stuff they want to talk about? Okay, on we go.

All right, so this is why we brought you with us, Melissa, the Walking Dead, baby. We want to hear what you think and we want to talk to you about this and pick your brain. Wait, wait, I thought of one. But like Phillips said first, fear the Walking Dead. No, wait, wait, wait. I thought of one. Captain America, PSAs are awesome. Those were fantastic.

Especially the one about patience. Those were so cute. Yes, those were so funny. That's the Captain America that I grew up with right there. That's not my favorite superhero. Absolutely, man. Absolutely. All right.

Now back to The Walking Dead. All right, so, Fear of the Walking Dead. I don't know her. See? I'm the same way. I don't know her. I won't. Like, I just, I don't know, y'all.

Like, I tried. I really wanted to like it. I stuck with the first, like, actually, I watched the full first two seasons. And, like, I felt like from season one, like the first two or three episodes, I was like, all right, all right. I see what you doing. I like it. I like it. But what the hell?

Like, what happened? I don't like any of these people. I don't care if they die. Right. That was my problem. That's rough. That's my problem. That is rough.

I could give a shit about the characters. Oh, come on, asshole. There's a few good ones. Okay. What about Johnny Depp Jr.? Y'all don't like him? No, I was kind of ready for him to die a long time ago. Yeah, me too.

Isn't the little junkie? He's so annoying. The one person that I liked, I haven't seen again, and that was Tobias. Okay. And that was like, what? He was in, like, the first couple episodes, that was it? Yeah, that was about it. Yeah.

Yeah, because he was. He was a good character. Yeah, and out he went. He was. He makes you up later. They didn't confirm he was dead, right? I have heard rumors that he is coming back, that they're going to bring him back. So I don't know.

I think they will. I think they have high hopes. I mean, I feel like a lot of people liked him and people, it gravitated to him. When I went to my first Walker-Stalker convention in Nashville a year ago, they brought him there. And people were so excited. people loved him he's a great character he kind of like he was that one that you know

he kind of knew what was up he's like no I know what's going down y'all need to listen yeah no shit he knew what zombies were all about right he saw the movies yeah I I liked him so you know if they bring him back I might consider trying again I don't know

I think the show will make it I don't know you know a lot of people are saying the third season has really picked up and it's actually really good. So I don't know if I believe all that, but... AMC loves their

sequels and prequels and offshoots and just think about Better Call Saul. They're still nursing that baby along. Well, look, I personally would prefer to watch the talking good instead of... Ooh, that's rough, dude.

Yeah. Yeah. I need to say no more. What are you thinking, Brian? I have no idea what you guys are talking about. You're not doing the Fear of the Walking Dead? I've seen the first season when the first season came out and I've not really picked it up since then. All right.

Well, you know what? Guess what? I'm up to date. Okay. Second question. As female, since you all put that, that viewpoint in your show, you know, that's how you come across. Yeah.

What did y'all think about the little all-female beach tribe that they had in the last season? Right? Yeah, the group that they came across, right? Ocean side, yeah. Ocean side, yeah. Um, it was interesting. It was well outside the comics, that's for sure. I mean, there were only in a couple episodes, so it's not yet.

Yeah. Okay. I liked them. I liked them. It's interesting. I like them better than weird trash people. See, okay, here's my problem with it. Like, the fact that I don't really like a lot of these, like, one-off episodes, like,

where we've got everybody so separated in the group and we're not checking in with different people. Yeah. I feel like they could have combined that episode with another one, perhaps, and cut out a lot of crap that we didn't need. Like, where the fuck is Heath guys? Heaths gone. Heaths off black and dirty shirt. He's off out there filming 24 or something. I don't know what he's doing.

But, you know, we've all forgotten about Heath from, like, I mean, how long ago was that? That was forever ago. But it really wasn't. It was interesting. I think, like, learning the story about what happened with their group with Megan was interesting. And it just added another layer of brutality to his character, which he so desperately needs. Oh, not. Elaborate.

Elaborate. Not a Negan fan. She loves Negan in the comics. I do. I do love Negan in the comics, and that's my problem with this. And I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan, y'all. I love him. I love him.

And I love him. Yes. And I think I would like him better in this if the writing was a little bit better. I think there is a difference in the way he is portrayed on the page in the comics versus the way he's portrayed on screen. And I do think you lose a little bit of that because of the language issue. You know, he can't say fuck-de-fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck every five seconds like he does comics. But he's almost cheesy to me.

We, Kee and I both, like we are very much for, we call him boss savior, Simon. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like Simon. Yeah, so he, to me, he is a lot more intimidating than Nekin is. Because he's very unpredictable. Yeah, you don't know what he's. to do next. No, you have no idea what he's thinking.

Like, any of the time. We were at Comic Palooza where he was and we were afraid to go up and talk to him, remember? Was he there? He was there, dude. We walked past him. I said, do you want to go get a sound bite? And he said, nah, let's walk on. I kind of don't want to get axed.

Just saying. He's really nice. I just met him at the first of June. And, oh, my God, he's so nice. And he's so weird. We should have had the balls to go up there like, Melissa. Yeah. Says you.

We might have got axed. I had some beach ball size ladynuts, guys. There you go. That's what it takes. That's it. So, I mean, what do you guys think about Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Negan or as Negan as the TV character? See, I haven't actually read the comics. I've read, I want to hear your opinion then.

I've read, I haven't read up to where Negan is at least. I've read them all. Yeah. I loved him in the first episode. I wish he was there more. because I really love Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Like, I think he's great. I think his character is cool as the other side of the pillow, man.

That dude is awesome. And I wish that maybe they just utilized him a little better. Like, I feel like he was, yeah, he was a real hard hitter in that first episode. No fun intended, huh? Well, yeah, there you go. And, but then he kind of, I mean, he was around for the rest of it, but he didn't really do anything. Hmm.

I mean, except kill that douchebag, but he had it coming. Right. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. Brian, what are you thinking, man? I also did not read the comics, but as far as the TV show, I like him. He's entertaining to me. And the way he portrays himself, like, when he gets his, it'll be all more satisfying, I think,

as far as the way he portrays himself, uh, to be this leader and follow my rules. And I don't know, he's entertaining to me. I can, without the F-bombs dropping left and right, you know, it doesn't kind of matter to me. Okay. Well, number one, as far as when he gets his, Brian, don't get your hopes up, brother. You have a long wait.

Okay. Now, let me go into my opinions, because I have read all the, comics religiously and seen all the shows, of course. And I have no problem with him. Okay. He's a completely different character, obviously, and I think a lot of it is, because

he's not allowed. And we were talking about this earlier, how why on sci-fi and why on FX? Because I saw Taboo. Have you guys seen the TV show Taboo with Tom Hardy? I haven't actually watched it. There's shitloads of F-bombs in that, and they're

literally said. And I know it's not something that's bleeped out from watching it later because I record it. Yeah, true, good point. But I record it on my AT&T, whatever the hell it is, and then I rewatch it later, so I know they're literally there.

It's not something that was put in, you know, like a Netflix type thing or something like that afterthought. I don't have a problem with him. I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan as an actor, and I enjoy him as Negan. I think he's perfect. Now, I had more of a problem with

the prior character, because he was supposed to be, I read all the books of the governor. And he was a Hispanic, I mean, heavily Hispanic character. Really? And he had a brother that he grew up with. Have you read any of the books, Melissa, of the governor? I've not read the governor books. I've only done the Walking Dead comics. But you know from the comics, basically he looked like Danny Trejo, right?

Yeah. Okay. So he was a completely different actor. I had a huge problem with that. Wow. I'm kind of surprised that there wasn't like some sort of PC thing with that. It might have been a few years before that started. Yeah, I guess so. What did you think about him, Melissa?

Oh, see, again, like I felt like it was better in the comics. Like, I didn't picture the governor as this pretty boy Liam Neeson type. There you go. You hit it right on the, you know. I feel the same exact way. I had a big problem with the governor. Yeah? Big problem. My favorite villains from the wall.

Walking Dead on the show have actually been ones that I think people kind of like forgotten about. Like I thought Gareth was a really good villain. I mean like that whole thing and how he got to cannibalism. I'm like what, what? Yeah. I liked him and I actually liked the claimers. You know what I'm talking about? Of course.

I thought those guys. The Biker gang guy? They have great children. Yeah, no, Gareth was the guy that was eating the. eating the people. He was part of the cannibal cult. Oh, right, right, right. The biker guys were the claimers. They were the one that would say, that's mine. Right, right, right, right. Okay, okay, I got you.

Yeah. Go ahead, Melissa. Those guys were pretty sinister. I mean, if you think back to season four where they were, one of those guys was about to try to rape Carl. I mean, like, that's some dark shit. Oh, wow. That was amazing. Wasn't that a great scene? Yes. It was. It made me mad.

It does. I was ready to kill him. I know. To me, like, they were true evil villains. Like, I mean, I don't know. So, yeah, I'm just, I wasn't there for the governor. Like, you know, he talked about, like, in his journal or whatever, like, how he listened to Sinatra and, I don't know, ran a bubble bath and stuff. And I'm like, this is not a villain.

Right. Who is this? Well, I think that the point they're trying to take, no, I mean, like I said, I haven't read the comments, so I think the point that they're trying to. So I think the point that they're trying to take is like this could be Rick in an alternate universe. Oh, Nican? Yeah. Like if we had been following their story from the beginning, we may be rooting for Negan, you know? Oh, that's a good way to look at it.

Melissa, what are your thoughts on that? I mean, I think if he was the center of the show and we never had met Rick, I think, you know, we might see things a little bit differently. But at the same time... I like that, dude. You open my eyes, man. Rick could be the bad guy. But at the same time, like there was a big uproar on Twitter the other day because are you guys familiar with commentbook.com's Brandon Davis? Not at all. Fill us in.

So he wrote an article and he was talking about the comparisons with comparing Rick's leadership skills with Niggins and saying that their leadership skills aren't, their styles are not that far apart. And I have to disagree with that because I think that Negan, he leads by fear and intimidation. Rick is very democratic. You know, he always takes into consideration. To a fault sometimes, right? Exactly. Almost to his own, you know, failure, really. Like, I mean, for example, perfect example.

When Terminists went up in flames, thanks to Carol. You know, he wanted to go back in and make sure that everybody was dead. And everybody was like, no, no, no, we don't need to go back in there. You know, they're probably dead anyway. Guess what bitches? No, they weren't. You should have gone back in, just like Rick said. Rick wanted to do it.

But he, you know, he listened to what his group said. And, you know, Rick's just got a really good intuition about those kind of things. And, yeah, I generally side with Rick on most things. Although in that period of time before Terminus, though, when they were kind of out in the wild for a way long time, and Rick said, all right. Wandering. I'm in charge. Y'all are going to listen to me, and that's the fucking way it's going to be. Yeah.

For a while, he was a bad ass. He did. He, it was the Rick Tatership. I did, too. Yeah, the Rick Tatership. Exactly. I've heard it referred to that. I just don't like...

That's when I liked him the most, too, to be honest with him. I don't like to say that. I don't like Winy Bitchie Rick. I didn't like Farmer Rick. Remember when he had his headphones on? Oh, Farmer Rick. the garden. I was almost okay with him.

It's just when he gets whiny and is, like, I didn't like Rick this even. At least the first half of it. Hey, Brian, what are your thoughts, dude? About Rick? Yeah. Like his transition. I always like crazy, beardy biting Rick. When he's biting throats and stuff.

That's my favorite Rick. They call me Mr. Tater. They call me Mr. Rick. we call him murderer Rick when he gets that like his murder face and the murder coat that stuff like yes the murder coat I'm here for this oh you done fucked up now

I know I love it I love when he gets crazy eyes out and like oh you you you done but it takes a lot to push him which I like it does take a lot to push him sometimes but yeah once you push him it's there's kind of no coming back right yeah yes

what did you think about the way they killed off Glenn. I mean, as you and I both know Melissa, it was the same as the comic books. But what did you think about the fake out death, like six episodes or whatever before that? Oh, well, I felt like it cheapened

his death a little bit in the sense like, you know, at that point, you're expecting it. And I think that so much has gotten out about the comics and everything. We were really not for the way they did the

the finale of season six. Just because, I mean, with the way things are now and all the spoilers that are out there, it was everybody knew. Like, everybody knew how this was going to go down. I think it might have had more of an impact if they had, you know, showed where they had killed Abraham, like, where you could at least have seen the back connect with Abraham. And they cut it.

And then you think, okay. Hey, he made it. Oh, my God. Yes, all right. Glenn survived. And then the opening, yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, you could have done the opening really the same way they really did it.

But this whole who died, like really walking dead. You're going to do this to us? You think we're stupid. No. Yeah. You already know this is how this went. Right. That was probably one of the worst cliffhangers in history, I think.

There's the right way and a wrong way to do cliffhangers. And, you know, that was just the wrong way. I don't disagree. All right. Well, listen, Melissa, we really appreciate you being on the show with us. We always love having guests, but your animation has been better than most. Oh, thanks. Yeah, you're pretty much.

And I'm glad we talked about Walking Dead with you. So, hey, real quick, before we do the closing statement or whatever, where can we find you? What do you guys do? What's coming up? I know you guys don't talk fear at all, right? No. I told you I don't know her. So what are you talking about now?

God damn it. There ain't no Walking Dead shows going on. You can't see her. I'm pretty sure she's clapping. Right. I don't know. The slow clap. That's right.

No, so we actually were pretty late to the podcast game when it comes to the Walking Dead. We actually are going to be celebrating our one year anniversary next week, believe it or not. All right. Thank you. I hear it. We're only a couple of steps in it. we're still working on Yeah no we're still working on doing our

Like the back episode So we're actually We just posted our recording schedule up on our Facebook page So you can just search two dead chicks But we're doing our rewatch of season five And the remainder of season six That we didn't finish over the summer So those will all be coming out up until the season premiere

At the end of October So then we'll be right back in real time Awesome Cool. Cool. Cool. That sounds good. And you had an update on our Facebook page, didn't you, Philip? Yeah. It looks like, we're still, we're shooting for that 1,000 likes on Facebook. By the end of the year, right? By the end of the year. We're catching up. We've got 789 right now. You just hit the right. You hit the button and fucked up your screen.

That's what happens when I take control of the computer. MIS major. 78. You're right, sir. You are correct, sir. 789 likes, so we're only a little bit away, man. Yeah, we're getting there. Yeah, let's swing hard and get it there. If you haven't liked our page yet and you listen to the podcast, then what the fuck is wrong with you? Go to our page and like it.

Yeah, and not to mention the Horror Returns Discussion Group. Oh, Roger, yeah. Melissa, are you familiar with that page? I am. I am a member, so, you know, all the haters can suck it. They better get in there. Right. That's where we all talk.

Shit. All right, cool. So, as always, we're going to thank you guys for listening to yet another episode of the Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at the Horror Returns at gmail.com. Be sure to follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Podbean. Just search for the Horror Returns. And look for us on iTunes.

And if you like what you hear, rate us and review us. We love it when you do that. you know what? We fucking missed a review. Huh? Yeah, we actually got a, I don't have my cell phone. We'll have to cover it next week, folks.

This is guerrilla radio and it's very best. But we do have a new iTunes review. It's at the very end of the show. Darren, I know it's from you, brother. We promise to talk about it next week and get you a T-shirt. So next week we go to war with those damn dirty apes. Ah. With war for the planet of the apes, as well as the original.

And we will be joined by frequent guest Kevin Ness, who we all know and love if you listen to our podcast. So, until the horror returns again, Philip! Good night. Yeah, I know. You kind of put my spot there. Otherwise, I thought of something funny to say. Well, good for you, dude. We're still recording.

We can always edit. All good. All good. All right. Thanks, Melissa. Thanks, guys. This was so fun. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

We went a little long, sorry. Oh, no, you guys are... Not really. Awesome. Our episodes sometimes are like in real-time seasons. Like, they can be up to like two hours long because we get so much feedback from listeners that, and we try to let, you know, we try to read it all to keep people involved. But, I mean, yeah, sometimes ours go really long. Yeah.

We get on the tangents. But yeah, thank you so much. If you guys ever talking about the Walking Dead or whatever, I would gladly join you all again. Super fun. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. We always have Walking Dead episodes. Well, actually, every time there's either a mid-season or a season finale, we have a recap.

Okay. Will you join us on our next mid-season recap? I would be honored to, sir. Awesome. Good.