The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #60: The Fifth Element (1997) & Velerian And The City Of 1,000 Planets (2017) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: December 18, 2021

This week we go sci-fi as we are visited by Jack Hunter and Alex Timm. Thanks for listening!

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include spoilers for the new film. However, we're going to let you guys know before we do so with a spoiler alert, and we'll play them at the very end of the show. So if you don't want to hear the spoilers for the new show, just turn us off at that point, and we promise you guys won't miss a thing. We generally, if you're listening to the podcast, you've probably seen the classic film, so we're always going to spoil that one. The thing we may do from time to time, especially with the kiss we've got tonight, is possibly use a few four-letter words. this is a horror podcast That's a good one, man

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Motherfuckers Come on That's six All right So we'll get to it I'm Lance with me as always As you guys know Co-host Brian and Phillip

But we actually got a guest tonight and he's actually brought somebody with him. So we got a full crew tonight. Jack St. Hunter, four-time International Film Festival Award winner. We know he's the director and writer of Paranoia tapes, but he's going to tell us about some other shit that he's involved in, too. And we got Alex Tim. And Alex, I kind of just met you, man.

So Jack, tell us everything about both you guys, man. What are you up to? What's Southern Psycho Productions? What's the deal, man? Well, Southern Psycho's Productions is a company I formed officially this year, and we officially got our LLC and stuff. Officially, officially, that's my word tonight, is official. No, we got it this year, officially. Officially.

Officially, yes. And it was actually all because of the person. that is on the phone with us right now, Alex. Without him, Southern cycles, in all honesty, would be nothing. So not to blow his ego or make him hard, then that's a four little bit. Blow his ego, huh? I just take my load. Yes.

But without him, in all honesty, without him in the contributions he's made towards his company, we would not be anything. We actually probably would not have a paranoia. tapes out right now, you know, with the Psycho's, you know, logo and everything else, which I don't think they have the official logo. They have it from a while back. So, oh, well, fuck it.

You know, the sequel. We'll get there. The sequel. The new designs. Yeah, I didn't design the motherfucker. Actually, I couldn't even, they actually got mad at me because I kept like, no, change this, do this, do that. Hey, it's my film. It's my baby. But, um, no,

Southern Psychos basically based out, of four parts of the country. We got Dustin Hubbard in Florida. We have Walter C. Jones in Detroit. We have Alex in a vagina. Hello, Virginia. East side of the United States vagina. And me here in Louisiana, but currently I am working in Midland, Texas.

Oh, nice. And we also have Danny Field, who is located in Australia. True. Wow. Y'all went really southern on that one, huh? Wow, we had to get a little shrimp on the ball. He's like, oh, there? We also got Veltin Lischke.

He's in the UK. And then we have a couple interns, one in Virginia, and I believe the other is in Louisiana, I think. Uh, no, we fired all those. Oh, no. We didn't fire the Virginia one because... Right. Fuck those guys.

No, no. All right. So we have one intern left. He's in Virginia. Oh, we have Devin. She, okay, she's an intern. She's... Yeah, that's why I said we had two interns.

My bad, my bad, bro. My fiancee, I'm sorry. The mother of my... Okay. Yeah, it's kind of important to remember her, dude. Yeah, I'm the C.OO of Southern production. it's other Psychoos productions.

So it's my job to make sure Jack forgets everything. Okay, well, you're doing a good job, man. Yeah, I seem to be an excellent job because he doesn't know what you're shit. Okay, so hold on, Paranoia tapes. This was the first feature you guys have done, right? Yeah, it was the first feature that we came about me and my film partner at the time, Chad Clinton Freeman from Las Vegas. He and I came up with this concept.

for a found footage film. After we both watched VHS and found footage films, we got inspired from that. They're like, you know what? We can do this. You know, we can write something like this. So I wrote this short script. And before that, we wanted to make a found footage film,

but we didn't know what we wanted to do. So I wrote this script. And it was a paranoid tape's 101. And it actually ended up being a big, part, not a big part, but like one of the main parts in the movie. And it's actually like my, literally like my baby because they, they took everything from the script and they did it. Like word for word, shot for shot. And that script inspired us to do like, yo, you know, we can do more of these and make a found footage, you know, kind of

meta movie. And that key term right there, a meta-found footage film was something you actually told me, I believe it was you who said that to me. Yeah, it felt like it was a found footage film inside, like a found footage anthology film inside of a found footage film. Because I usually don't care for the found footage movies, dude. But I always like a good anthology.

And you guys, I mean, I will say you squeezed a lot of stories into this, man. Oh, yes. I don't know what the whole process was. There were a couple that really stood out, like, uh, early on, you had, to the point. Well, early on you had the chick with the baby that was driving her nuts and then we, we

saw how that ended. But what about the chick with the baseball bat with all the nails? She was like really creepy. That was good too. Well, the chick with the baby that was actually, I was inspired. This is so horrible, but I'll say it just to get it out there.

My son, my firstborn son, Jackson, Collell Hunter, he was, he had colic as a baby. So the first three to six months or three to four, three to five months, it was nonstop. crying and one day I was smoking a cigarette outside and I was talking to devon and I was like

babe like wouldn't it be a fucked up short to have like this kid this baby trying and then the mother just fucking mutilating it you know but the thing is it's like you don't see it but you know what's happening and that's the fucked up part yeah that's that makes it even creepier man yeah yeah absolutely I think you should have ended with that one that was a that was that was that was that was the one where I watched it and like I just stood with my jaw dropped for the whole neck short Yeah it was it was one of those

How can I say risque? You know, not menagerie Tuat. What's the word I'm looking for? Sick, yeah, it was sick. Fucking brutal, man. Yeah. Definitely doing more of those. Oh, definitely.

Yeah, more is coming. But it was one of those. things it's like you know it's what you don't see scares you um and then with the guys uh with the girl with the bat that i was actually on set for that one in los vegas filmed by dug farrah um okay so that that that segment i didn't mean interrupt man that segment was filmed in in Vegas then which one the uh the segment with the chick with the bat and the two guys and uh yeah okay yeah that was actually i don't want to give too much away no no that's cool um well you already said you had a bat so that kind of gave away that short.

Yeah, but she had it at the beginning. Come on. Yeah, but she had the bat before Negan was cool. So that was, that's pretty cool on us. Plus, it looks a little bit more dangerous than Negan's quite. Yeah, it's a cooler bat than Negan's bat. I'm sorry. Yeah, well, we appreciate it. And he, anyways, yeah, I was on set for that. And my script was actually called Jody.

And Doug, he took the script, and he kind of flipped it. What originally it was like this, the guy, one of the guys was found out that his best friend and his girlfriend were cheating on him. You know, they were fucking around. And it was set like in his parking lot, which is really what happened. Right. And then he sent me over the script for two-timing, which is what Jody was. And he paid homage to the script by saying the guy is down. He's like, what, you got another Jody wait for me?

You know, so he kind of, he threw in, he still took my script, but he just amped it up a little bit. And it turned out great. Tamara Porter, Bobby Brown, I don't know, Barry Brown, and Arthur Loring, I think that's his, I think that's his last name. Great, great actors. And the guy, the very last guy, that dude's like 35 years old, by the way. Right. Like he, but in the film, he looks like he's like 20-something. And when I met him, he had his daughter on set.

I was like, I was like, are you kidding? Like, dude, how old are you? But it was great. Yeah, I loved it. I love working with them. And he also did another short in a film too. Right. Well, I got to ask you, what about, I don't want to give anything away on this one,

but the two guys, I'm just going to say the two guys that made the homemade bomb. A knockout game. Yeah, what's the story on that one, man? That's a good one. Okay. Honestly, I'll tell you how it is. How that one came about is Chad reached out to Doug and said, hey, we're doing his found footage film, and we need, you know, we need some shorts.

So he went out and he wrote the knockout game. I had nothing to do with it. It's unfortunate because it was such, to me, it was the most funniest but heartfelt of the shorts in the movie. Because, you know, I'm a veteran. So for me, I can relate to what they're talking about. I understand the VA sucks, and it's insane. But yeah, he sent me the short, and I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be completely honest here.

I did not like it the first time I saw it because I was like, we're shooting a horror movie. How is this horror? Yeah, almost comedy relief in there. Yeah, exactly. But I started thinking about it, but like, dude, like, you're a veteran. The horror is how they're being treated and what they're doing. You know, it's so, it sinks into you. Because it's like, out of all the shorts in the movie, to me, that one always stuck out.

And that's what all the fans and people always talk to me about, you know, like the two guys, you know, two brothers. They're always talking about them. And I messaged Doug. I was like, dude, I was like, you might want to write a full feature length on this story, you know, and probably have a better ending than that. You know, not to give away anything. But, you know, people like. the chemistry between those two guys and they were excited. I mean, they, sorry, it probably didn't fit in a horror aspect.

It was more the mental horror that they were going through within the short. Well, yeah, it had a lot of like potential scariness. And I'm a vet also. So, yeah, I really, I raised my hand when you said it. I just, you didn't. So did I. that's extremely creepy enough. But,

I thought that one, I thought that one was funny. I thought it was, I thought it was funny. I loved the brother. And even as much as I was like, come on, dude, get shit straight and suck it up. It was, the brother was awesome, and I loved the ending. That was a great one.

All right, cool. So what, so you guys, Alex, Jack, you guys were both involved in this one, right? Correct. Yeah, yeah. Can you kind of like, because our listeners a lot of the time like to hear like what the process is, because we got some folks that listen that want to hear what's involved in putting something like this together. I can chime in a little bit, Jack.

Yeah, go for it. Go for it. First, I'll say last year, I think like maybe May or June, that's when I met Jack. And I met, I met Jack on play. station playing call of duty through some friends and he was doing all his voices and I'm so who the fuck is this guy

and so we ended up connecting on Facebook and stuff and he knew of film not film buff and he's like hey you know I got this Southern Cycles Productions company

started and stuff but I got this film coming out or that I'm working on and would you be willing to check it out and give me some feedback on it? So he sent me this really, really rough cut of paranoid tapes. And I watched it. And out of the few people that he let see the rough copy, I was the only one that really brought back like six, seven, eight pages of notes. Oh, my God.

Like, guys, I'm not fucking lying to you. Like, I was working offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. and this dude is literally saying me six, seven pages, like a word document in like size 12 font. Just saying, okay, continue. So I literally am watching a movie, pausing, every time I got a little note to make, pause, play, pause, play a note list.

And finally I send him his notes and he comes back. He's like, holy shit, dude. Like, I didn't really know, is my film bad? Is it good? What are you going? with here, I'm like, it needs organization and some fillers and some work. And so

after hashing out back and forth, the film you saw now is what it is now compared to what it was before. I mean, if we released the rough copy as the final

feature, we probably wouldn't sell a copy. No, not nearly. Come on, man. Well, no, it was literally only like in the out, well, it was like 60 minutes of 59 or 39, the original. Between 50 and 60 minutes. Can I ask you questions? Yeah, go ahead.

Okay. So the main story in the movie is the, the, the Kurt Cobain dude with blue hair and the two chips, right? Jack. Yes, the blue hair guy. Blue hair guy. I have blue hair. Who is that guy. Anyway.

Philip, you answer that. Who was that? Who is that? Who is that guy? Go ahead. Is that you? Just continue the question. Anyway, ask the question.

I feel like, was that like the basis to the story? And then you added some other found footage stuff in there, like to fill the gaps for the short story? Can you rephrase the question? I'm trying to understand. Like, was that the main, the main. through story there basically right? Yeah, that was

the main of the rest of the story. Like the rough cut of the movie was that like the base of it? Yeah. And then maybe you added some other some other short stuff in there?

Uh-huh. Oh, you got Alex's answer. It's mainly like when the main character is given, or or a narrator, as you can call them in the beginning, kind of tells you, you know, I have found these tapes,

my dad has gone missing, blah, blah, blah. That's your structure right there. And then the blue-haired guy, and it happens to be part of the twist in a way. So that's your main story there. And then your tapes are your tapes. You know, they're kind of separate from the story, but some can tie in.

Are you asking, like, did we add stuff in there to make it make sense? Is that what you're asking? No. No, I was just asking, like, is it, like you said the rough cut was really short. Oh, yeah, extremely. Was that kind of the general consensus of your rough cut was mostly that story? Yeah. Maybe a couple of other like beta tape stuff, which, hey, props for bringing beta back.

That's what I'm talking about. that was all Chad, man. That was all Chad. He wanted to do it. Yeah, the rough cut is your general plot. And we really only added, what, maybe 20 to 30 minutes of extra footage in it to kind of make. Exactly. We added exactly 31 minutes and 27 seconds.

Yeah, because we want to get some attention grabbers, some a little throw off. But it all relates to each other. We didn't just like go, hey, let's. this looks really cool let's add this to the film see if we can get permission no we searched kind of and even filmed a few things just to make it fit in and not just randomly picking out stuff just to make our movie longer right right yeah I was just curious as to what was what was what was the original stuff and then what was oh you want to know like what the rock that way the the extra footage I would say

is the individual with the masks on that's kind of talking to the camera to the audience a lot. Man. There's a lot to do this movie. I mean, it's an anthology movie, but, I mean, you get to stretch it out

to feature Link big time. It's like an hour and 40 minutes or something. So my takeaway on it is that some of the scenes were very creepy. There was obviously a main story there that a lot of them came back to. But what's the plans? what's paranoia tapes too?

Is that like, is that picking up where this one left off? Or is that going to be like a reimagining? Or what's the plan there? Because I know you guys already have a sequel in the works, right? Yeah. Right now we do. It's actually currently in production. So I want to say that it's like our Comic Con release.

You know, we released a poster on Facebook last night for the teaser officially. Okay. And let's see. I don't know. Yeah, it's on IMDB, too. Yeah, but we're still famous. Yeah, but we still got a ways to go to add into IMDB, you know, because we still got to get our segments and our scripts out and get this stuff filmed,

and then we'll keep adding to IMDB. Kind of like ABCs of death where on their IMDB page, it's full of, hey, this is the director of this segment, writer of this segment, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, it's a lot. So we have a lot to fill in for the second. one, probably a lot more than the first one. But I will tell you, well, here, the thing is, oh, excuse me, there was, oh, how can I see this?

Okay, there was two, there was two scripts for Paranoid Tapes, too, that I wrote, for the wrap-around story. I wrote one literally as I was writing part one to coincide with part two. I mean, with, yeah, yeah. Okay, I was writing part two to coincide with part one. Okay. And then last summer, I created this other version where it went totally like off, off the rector, was not nowhere near to what the other other script was. And then this new script, or more or less an idea that we're going to go with, I can't, I don't, I don't want to say it.

deals. If it's, man, shit. I mean, you know, I told you the idea, Alex,

right? Yeah, but there's a lot we can't say. Yeah, we can't turn it out. Like, this movie's fucking Hollywood.

This movie's really awesome and I can't tell you why. It's a big learning curve from the first one and the second one. It's kind of like, I like this. CNN. Okay, Evil Dead One, amazing.

But Evil Dead 2 is Evil Dead One enhanced. Yeah, but it's kind of the same story, right? I was hoping you were going that direction with that. I mean, we're not going with the same twists and the same straight up plot from the first one. It's going to be new story, new twists. Yeah, you might see... But the concept's pretty similar. Okay.

We have some concept teasers that I made last summer for. the movie to kind of to kind of pan out the saga like on what each theme would be but they're not we're not we're probably not going along with it um but if you look at the teaser poster for the for the sequel you'll know the theme immediately uh you can announce it if you want actually the poster is pretty similar the one i saw for the for the second movie looked a lot like the first one how so had the skulls and everything on it, man. No, negative. You might want to look at that poster again. Where can we check this out? And also, let me go check out the movie. Right to the chat right now.

Yeah. All right? You want to send it? Yeah, send it to the chat. Maybe I have not seen this news. Okay, wait a minute. Is this, it says press play on it?

Yes. Okay, is this like a clown face? Or is this the fucking twisted? Who the fuck is this, man? Oh my. It sounds like the beginning to the horror movie. This is, this is it right here. When you watch it later, we're going to be the first part.

Oh, man. So, yeah, this is the first teaser poster created by Arturo. I forgot. What's his last name? I can't pronounce it. Are you serious? I can't pronounce it. See, this is why Jack is the CEO.

He doesn't know the damn thing about his own team members. Arturo Portillo is one of our traffic designers. Yeah, there he is. I knew it was a P. What are you going to do? But that's why you have the guy that works under him do most of the legwork. Yeah, I'm just a CEO, and he's just, yeah. Yeah, he sits up in an office collects money, and I have to make people work.

And work myself. Nice. Pretty much. So yeah. So pretty much, you pretty much nailed it on the spot on what the theme is of the second movie. But there's a lot of hidden things within that poster. You know, it's just, it's up to the imagination and when the movie comes out. But I will tell you this, in order to get the sequel, you have to watch the first one first

because there will be things in a sequel that you're not going to get if it's just random. You know, you pick that one up, you know. It's not like Jason or something where you can pick up part seven and part five and be like, oh, well, it's pretty much the same movie. The dude's killing people. He's got a hockey mask. No, it's not like that. There's more in-depth meaning to the movie than the story.

It's all about the story. And that's why I try to write the movies and the shorts is it's a story. It captivates you. You get involved with the characters from the first movie. You're expecting to see. them in the second one, but will you really see them? Are you wanting to see them? Do you want to see them? You know,

we'll seeing them from the first movie and the second movie ruin the second movie. You know, it's those little mind fucks that make it interesting to want to see the sequel. You guys have an idea. You guys have an idea yet about release date on this?

We're about to film the first segment, which is like the intro segment and then we still got a lot. of other segments to get dumb, but if we're going to spitball a release date, it could be either the end of 2018 or spring of 2019. Okay, so in the meantime, everybody that's listening to the horror returns, Brotherhood, get together here, and we need to all go out and check out the first movie.

Those of you who haven't seen it yet, so this is the part why I shamelessly asked you to plug the movie. where can they see it? Is it on, is it electronic evasionware? Let me see it out a couple of these. Most, there's not physical copies in stores yet, but you can order online at Target, Amazon,

Best Buy. Barnes & Noble. Barnes & Noble, pretty much any online retailer you can find our film at, but you can also rent our film at your local family video if you have one nearby

which is like the only still living video rental store out there I don't know of any other rental store besides maybe if I'm a pop shop that is still alive but yeah they're not a dime a dozen out there

are they family videos has about 800 doors and we have a copy at almost all of them. At least 700 out of eight. It's not on iTunes, because that's the first place I look for it, but I am looking at it is on Amazon.com.

It is on Amazon. That's where I read it. You don't want to deal with Apple. Yeah. I mean, I love Apple products, but when you want to try to sell your stuff, they're probably going to take most of your money. Yeah, fuck you.

Keep it real. That fuck you. But here's a thing to, Lance, the movie was in post-production for three years. We filmed this back in 2013. Yeah, because it shows a release date of 2017. Well, yeah, that's when it was officially released on DVD. But, I mean, it was, like you said, in post-production for three years. And this kind of backtracking where I went from being a guy that gave him some feedback,

medium on call of duty to being CEO-O-O of a production company. He's like, hey, man, I really liked your feedback and how he came about getting a final copy or a final version of Paranoia tapes. What do you think about joining Southern Psychos? I'm like, well, I used to do a big haunted attraction production. So my background is actually putting together scenes in a business. big production for people to walk through a haunted house. You know, building, building, design, and making these actors perform, and people enjoy

the entertainment as they go through. So I'm like, okay, I can definitely do this on film as a producer. So, but I'm like, if you want me a part of this team, a part of this company, I will not do it unless we go legit. So I ended up getting our LLC, making us a legit company, tax ID, all that stuff. And then I'm like, you know, we need to have something that represents us. So I came up with a design, which is what our logo is today, and then got a trademark. So I need everything has to be legit when you go to be an actual production company for films

because I've been to conventions and stuff, and you see these guys selling these low-budget films on DVD, and they're like, I'm from so-and-so production, and then you kind of look them up, and it's like, okay, you got a website, but where is your company based on? You have a business location of where this company exists? Oh, no, it's on Facebook, or we made it. It's like, okay, congratulations,

but who's taxing you? If you're not legit, nobody's going to take you serious. So, you know, wind forward, you know, a year later, now we've got a DVD released and we got about four or five films and works.

And we have this team together. So we actually have board members. We have chief officers and then we have team members, then we have interns. And we have a spokesperson. So. It is Jack. That's what's going to push you over the edge, right?

Yeah. So, I mean, you can't just come up with, hey, I'm from, let me know, spitball in it. I'm from after-death productions. I make movies, though. Okay. All right. So who's backing you? Where's your finances?

Do you have this all legal? Because if you make movies and you're from a, quote, quote, production company, and you actually come out with a really, really good film, but you're not a real company. You can get sued. You can deal with lawyers. You don't have a financial backing. You don't have a company.

Unless you're investing and you get 120% back of the film. We're going to skip that. Okay. Inside joke. Yeah, we'll keep it there. Yeah, I'd like to know how that works. well yeah like

look Hollywood man makes money anyways I'm very proud of where we are today and outstanding having a

release film whether we make an amazing film or a bad film as a company we have a film we are

a legit company once you actually have a DVD released film with a legit company it's like now we're started and we're at a point where we have accomplished something and we can keep doing it and getting better and just keep improving and moving forward which is exactly what we're doing so is there i'm at the face i'm on the facebook page for the for the movie but do you guys have a facebook page set up for the production company uh yes it's uh if you search in facebook you'll see Southern Psychos Productions LLC.

We also have Southern Psychos Horror Film Festival, and we have Facebook pages for each film that we're working on. So there's a faceless page, there's a paranoia tapes page, there's a hide short film that I'm writing and directing. Well,

I have some writers, and it's my first time directing. So I my cover is a producer, but I'm going to try this directing thing. Well, I figured if I can direct people in a, in a product, a haunt production, on how to do live performance. I'm pretty sure I can do it when I can do multiple takes. Can't be too different, right? Yeah, I mean, when you go.

Almost exactly the same thing. Well, yeah, except like you said, you get multiple takes. Yeah, the only difference between film and hunting attraction is you get one shot to entertain or scare that group that comes past you. One shot. You don't get to record it and they go, we could tweak this a little bit, try again. Right. Yeah, completely different, but also very similar. All right, we're going to move on to talking about the movies that we're covering this week.

Alex, do you want to – I know you're at a convention. right now. I don't know if you want to stick with us or... I was at a convention. I'll stick around for a little bit. Okay, I went to... This is located in Williamsburg, Virginia. Most people, if they haven't heard of, even Virginia, but a lot of people have heard of Williamsburg.

But I went to, it's called the Scares-I-Care Charity Convention. I've heard of that, yes. Four. Yeah, it's all for charity, right? Yeah. This convention, this is why I love going to this convention. And it's just like any other horror convention. You got celebrities, you got vendors, you got activities, and things to see and do there.

But the difference between this convention is they pick out individuals each year that have some kind of monster they're fighting, whether it's breast cancer, they were suffering from burns or a child with leukemia, whatever. the issue is the convention is there for people to spend their money that's what you hope for

that's what we're at conventions for anyway right yeah the difference is you know these celebrities aren't pocketing all this money the vendors aren't pocketing

all this money and everything you buy there isn't being pocketed by everyone it is going towards these individuals that get chosen each year.

So, say, and what I like about this is it's not an organization that says, hey, you know, donate to us and we will give a percentage to the person you're

actually trying to raise money for. They literally, the owner or the founder Joe Ripple, he will literally go to your state where you live and hand you a check for the money that was raised for that individual. And it's just, it's actually quite beautiful.

It's really touching, too. It's a great convention. I mean, I got to meet Richard Brake today. He played Doomhead. We met him, too, dude. Yeah, buddy. He's a really nice guy. Friend of the show.

He's a really great guy, dude. Right? I had some good conversation with him. I saw, I didn't, speak to him by that Kane Hatter was back again this year. Actually, every single person that played Jason Borges was at this convention this year. Wow.

So they had this big Friday 13th reunion with all the Jason's of one of the female actors. It's supposed to be two females, but one on the cancel due to filming. Right. But there was a whole mess of celebrities there besides the few. I actually got a photo op with Courtney Gaines. and John Franklin from Children of the Corn. That was really cool.

So we're getting into the regular part of the show, and the first thing that we do guys is we do cool of the week, like the coolest thing that you've seen this week, which, you know, I think obviously we know what that was for you being at the convention, but Jack, what was the coolest thing you checked out this week, man? Okay, well, two things. One, the Colts of Chuckie trailer released.

That was fucking amazing. Oh my God. And I'm a huge Shucky fan. I actually showed Alex earlier. I have the Bride of Chucky Chucky doll here in my room and I bought it at Spencer's

which was awesome for super cheap. And also two, has anyone ever heard of the movie the Poughkeepsie tapes? Yeah, I saw the trailer for it, dude. I wasn't that impressed, to be honest with you, man. Like I said, I'm normally not a found footage guy.

Dude, this was the found footage movie that set the tone for fucking found footage before paranormal activity and VHS and all those. And the reason I say this is because this movie was so, um, uh, God, not risque. I don't want to say risque. What's the word? Like, it's fucked up. Exactly. It's a stuff. Risk. It took years to finally be released, right? Yeah. Uh, it here it. I mean, the Poughkeese tapes is a 2007 American documentary style horror film directed by John Eric Dowdell and starring Bobby Sue Luther's Samantha Robinson, Niver Blocker. The film documents the murders of a fictional serial serial killer in Poughkeepsie, New York, told through interviews and footage from cash of the killer's snuff movies. The film was

completed in 2007 but had trouble release history. It was originally slated for theatrical released by Metro-Goldwyn Mayer in February 2008, but was removed from the release schedule. The film had a brief video on-demand release in 2014, but remained unavailable on home media, on home media. But in July, 2017, on July 5th, my birthday this year, it was announced that Screen Factory would officially be releasing the film on Blu-ray

and DVD in October of this year, which is fucking amazing. And I can't wait to buy this shit because this is a film that needed to come out years ago. And it's like one of these films that get knocked down because it's too graphic. But you know what? This is fucking art.

This is fucking filmmaking. Get the fuck over it, you liberal fucking dicks. So you've seen the movie then? Yes. Bootleg, of course, but I have. You got, you got, you got, you're up on that's, dude, because I saw was the, uh, I didn't see the movie. I just saw the trailer.

But, uh, hey, Brian, what, what was your cool of the week, man? Oh, shit. I did a rewatch of a Night of the Comet. Oh, it was that, like, is that, like, isn't that, like, slither? Like, the old slither, like, isn't it? No, that was that, that was Night of the Creeps. Oh, you're right.

Okay, my bad. My bad. Okay. Oh, that's cool. James Gunn, right? That's who you're thinking of. Yeah. And, yeah, it was a, it was a, oh my gosh.

I don't even remember who did that one. Was it like an end of the world type thing or something like that? Yeah. Essentially, it's essentially everybody is a, there's a comic coming and everybody's excited, you know. Kind of think, think of Independence Day when the aliens were coming, people are celebrating, gathering. Yeah, just party before they die. Yeah, one girl kind of

she's at work with her boyfriend or whatnot. They kind of like stay the night overnight in this room. And when they wake up, everybody's basically been turned to dust or mutated into some kind of zombie. Yeah, yeah. It was a pretty good rewatch.

It was made on a $700,000 budget, but made $14.4 million in the United States. Holy shit. It has a Rotten Tomatoes approval rating of 83% and has since become a cult film influencing the creation of

Buffy Summers, which I'm assuming would be Buffy the Vampires Lair. Wow. Damn, dude. You're going to have to like come on the rest of our shows now on and be our research guy.

I can always go hard. Come on. Not to the comment. What about you? What about you, look, what did you check out, man? Uh, you know what I watched? The, uh, the, the entire first season of the Exorcist TV series.

Oh, you caught up. I loved it. I love it. I love every second of it. Yeah, it was, it was, it was, uh, it was, uh, like, I was worried that it was going to be too much of a slow burn because that's kind of what the Exorcist is. But, uh, they had like some, some really creepy shit in like each episode. And then it turned into kind of a, like a, what was the movie with Tom Hanks?

There was a book from the Vatican. Oh, you're talking about the... Divinci code? DaVich code, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it turned into kind of a Da Vinci Code kind of thing. Really? I haven't seen it. A leanty code for demons, huh?

Right. But still Exorcist. but did they ruin it like they did the Omen because that series totally just bombed went the fuck away after what like five episodes? I never even saw it, Jag, did you? Chat. See, I don't know. I didn't.

I didn't. But, I mean, the Exorcist to me is probably my number one movie all time. And without spoiling anything, without spoiling anything, how did you feel about the reveal? Oh, oh, oh. On the TV show. Yeah. on which one you're talking about. I kind of saw it coming.

Don't ruin it. Basically the big one. Don't ruin it. They had to have something in it. I didn't really see it coming until maybe like the episode or two before. I got to be a beer back. Too much beer. That's all good, man.

But yeah, no, it was, I felt like. It was really great. I really enjoyed it. It was a little bit cheesy because it was network TV, but I'm super glad it's back for a second season. All right. Well, I don't really have a cool of the week. Brian, you got any news for us, brother? We lost George A. Romero, Martin Landau, Lincoln Park's lead singer, Jester Bennington, and just today, actor John Hurd passed away. Man. That's not cool. Been a busy week for the dude on our T-shirt, the Grim Reaper, huh?

Yeah, buddy. Absolutely. So, like, send condolences to the family. Yeah. Romero hit me pretty hard, man. I knew he was working on another movie, too. See, I actually just listened to the new Lick and Park album, and I know that they have gotten a lot of shit.

but there was some warning signs there I think yeah there's a bunch of conspiracies out there right now so it's like what about that dude and

and he committed suicide on uh um uh help me up here chryrynel's birthday christmas now's birthday uh

and I know they were really close. Like he was one of the godparents of one of Chris Cornell's kids. Maybe he took that a little too hard, and he already had some shit going on. I will say this, guys. Depression and suicide is not a funny thing, and there's been a lot of stuff

on Facebook about people making jokes. I will tell you this, it'll probably be the first time I ever say it publicly. I've attempted suicide three times in my life. And it is not a funny situation to be in when you are in a depression. So at this time,

I guess be an advocate for anyone that you know that is depressed. Get them help. Go talk to them. And suicide is no joking matter. I mean, there's jokes you can make, but it's extremely too soon to make anything, any of those jokes. You know, but

you know, for fans of Lincoln Park and the band, my condolences go out to you. So if anyone's out there, knows anyone that is needing help. Get them help. There's a hotline, and there's people you can talk to that will help you through it. It's hard, and the first step is admitting you are depressed,

because a lot of people don't realize they are depressed until it's too late. Yeah, and if you don't think that you need help, you need help. You need help. But you're thinking about it. Fucking go do it, man. Because I just had the same issue with my brother. So that shit happens, man.

If you're thinking about it And he was a fucking firefighter man He wasn't a soft guy But uh Right Yeah I'm sorry to hear that man Yeah sorry

Sorry to bring the show down It needs to be brought up It needs to It's serious stuff But no joke man If you uh If you if you have Have thought about that shit at all

Man call somebody And anybody will be willing to talk to you There's a thousand free things that will help you out in this situation. As crazy as it sounds, you could probably just call a random number and talk to them. And the next thing you know, they might be your best friend for life. You never know, I know, I know it sounds crazy. I mean, you could literally do that, you know, unless you get some psycho that like, yeah, do it.

But that's probably, you know. Well, I mean, I think we just had a couple friends with family video workers. Yes, we did. Oh, Alex. I know we were going over the hour and a half, but Alex has got to share the story we've been doing before the show. because we're doing some stuff. We were, you know, since family videos is carrying paranoid tips,

we actually called a couple of stores. Just, you know, at first, you know, we were wondering if this movie is in your lineup. And they're like, oh, yes, we have here. And then Jack's just like, well, I'm Jack Hunter. And hi, how are you? You know, I'm the filmmaker of the film here. looking at right now. And it's just

kind of like seeing not only how's the film doing, but it's kind of cool to, you're the filmmaker and you're actually calling a place where your film is located to a worker that would have never expected it. So the

people we talked to were actually really, really excited. They're like, oh wow, that's cool. You made this and I'm on the phone with you right now. So we only have about 700 more to go. Only 700. Anyways, yeah.

So, yeah. So that's a good note to start off again with another conversation. So, okay. Yeah, that's seriously grassroots, man. Yes. That's the ultimate grassroots campaign right there, you know, literally calling the people that it works, that are involved in it. Well, I think it's a lot of work. I run my own shit and that's the way it works.

Grassroots. See, I know Southern Cycles. productions will always do this. I don't care if we are making films that are now blockbusters or big, big horrors, you know, who knows what the future will bring for us, but

if we make a $50 million movie, I'm still going to call a family video and be like, hey, what's up? How's that movie doing? Might be it. Might be a little harder to call 700,000 stores, though. Yeah, yeah.

Just call one randomly and be like, Hey, I just thought I'd call, see how this is going with. Or just show up at the store, man. Listen, forget about that shit. If you come out with a $50 million movie, call us first. There you go. There you go. We'll call the stores for you.

Okay. First, we're going to talk about, we're going to get another Netflix series. It's going to be a 10-episode series on The Haunting of Hill House. And they've casted Carly. Gugino in the lead. Nice. She does. She does.

Yeah, they haven't remade the movie, right, guys? The haunting up hell? Yeah, I've probably be rated asylum video. Right? That was Hell House, right? Yeah, Hill House. Hold up. Hold up.

Your researcher is on it. Oh, Hill House. Yeah, that was by Penguin Class. It's a haunted attraction Oh, you know, it's just talking about actually The Haunted of Hill House Is a book

Oh, okay Okay, so this is, I was thinking of house I was thinking of house on haunted Hill So I was thinking of something different, right? A couple of those are out, I think Or is this show based on that The novel Haunting Haunting of Hill House, the house on Haunted Hill

are two different things then, right? Yeah. Actually, guys, the hot, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Wait, doze. The haunting of Hill House is a 1999 American horror film directed by Mitch Mark based on the ghostly rental by Henry James. It stars Michael York,

Andrew Bowen, and Jason Codale. After forcing his girlfriend into having illegal abortion resulting in the untimely death, James Farrow, played by Andrew Bowen, begins to be haunted by evil visions of his girlfriend and seeks a morbid professor who himself witnessed a chain of horrifying events

in his life. Yeah, Netflix is doing an adaptation. That sounds like Gregman News. Yeah, the Netflix is an adaptation of it of the actual Shirley Jackson's classic 1959

novel, The Haunting of Hillhouse, and they're going to do a modern reimagining. Okay. Netflix has been coming out with some good shit, so it might be good. Dude, Netflix. Probably in the same universe.

Why did I just create? not quite the same. Why isn't there a Southern Psycho's app that you can stream your TV shows and movies and then start making your own? Yeah. Like, I mean, really, when Netflix started out, it was just like, oh, look, a little online app thing we can just stream our films legally. Right. That's how I got started anyway.

Yeah. And then now they literally Netflix presents. is all over the place. And they're awesome. Okay. What else? We figured out we were all confused on which adaptation that was, so hopefully you can bring us back down to Earth. Conjuring 2 writer David Leslie Johnson is writing the script for the upcoming invasion of the Body Snatches remake.

Again. Again. Fucking soul. No, no. I'm sorry. No. The Nicole Kidman, the invasion, was a great movie. people I don't know why people didn't like

I love to It's terrible man No It wasn't terrible The Cole Kippen was fucking hot Okay That was oh yeah that's true I don't know how the fuck she got with

4 foot tall Tom Scientology Cruise That was short-lived Literally I get it Okay Yeah when she divorced him She was like I can finally wear a hill now.

I literally, I saw that on the interview after, I think it was like David Letterman or some shit. She's a, what will the Scientologist call it? Getting, going clear? Going clear? I can't remember, like a bad person or something? I don't know. The only thing I don't know that is they say they have them go clear.

It was going to be funny. All right. Jack or Luster Jack Pauley will tell us. he studies all the Scientology shit. Does he? Okay. Or someone else. Brian, I think to keep us on track, brother,

you got to take us where we need to go, man. Where are we going? Take us. Okay. Jack, we're taking a little trip down to the trailer park, man. Okay. We're going to take a look at the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird.

Ryan, what's the first new trailer this week, man? The first one we're going to talk about is the Snowman, starring Rebecca Ferguson, Michael Fassbender, Val Kilmer, Chloe Savini, J.K. Simmons, and Toby Jones, directed by Thomas Alfredson. Alphredson. Al-Kilmer. I thought he was like... Val Kilmer.

Yeah, where was he still acting? And I just watched that one. Yeah, I mean, it looked like a pretty good thriller. I wouldn't call it a horror movie, though. Or it did it look like it from the trailer anyway. I think it's going to be a psychological thriller with a little horror in it. Right. You know, because, I mean, they're kind of playing it up as the snowman is like a serial killer or a slasher for a horror film.

But I think it's going to be a lot of psychological in it. I just hope it doesn't end up like the zodiac where you watching this movie for two hours and you're like, what's going to happen? And then absolutely nothing. It's like you got blue balls. Well, I mean, you should have expected that because the guy was never caught. So how do you think the movie's going to add? Well, but yeah, no, I totally agree with you, man. Like, you got to get to the fucking point, man.

You can't like, yeah. Just chill out on the movie forever and then be like, okay, that's the end. Dude, I literally, because I watched it in theater. I was in boot camp or after boot camp in the Navy, and we were like, we're going to go watch this horror movie with the serial color that was true. And then you're watching it. And the only thing interesting about it was they were smoking on a plane back in the 70s. I was like, oh, that's pretty cool.

And then next thing you know, the actor turns into Iron Man a couple years later. So I'm like, what the fuck is this shit? We're going to talk about the second trailer for Blade Running 2049. Oh, you guys. We got a lot more, a lot more footage in this one. I'm out. I'm out. Me too.

I'm done. I can't. Oh, that's it. Yeah. I'm not sleeping for the first. I just can't get into the choices they made on the talent here. I love the talent. Really?

I love it. Jared Letto, I think he's going to rock whatever he's doing it. Well, Jared Letto, of course. That's not who I'm fucking referring to. And then who's that wrestler guy? What's this name? Batista. Yeah, Batista.

I don't know what his character is, but I already know I'm going to love it. Okay. I think it's a hell of a cast. Right? And Ryan Gosley? I'm not the biggest Ryan Gousling fan. I've seen a couple of movies of his lately that I'm just not impressed with his acting skills, guys. He gets a bad rap because he's a pretty boy, but I mean, the dude is a good actor.

I got to say. He's a good singer, too, by the way. I'm going to come out right now. I like La La Land and tell you that I love Ryan Gosling. Well, I'm not gay or anything, but I suck his dick. I can't know. I'd blow in. I'd fill his abs with my tongue.

I mean, come on. And then Han Solo. I mean, come on. Come on, man. Yeah, I, hey, I like the nice guys, but I think everything else that Gossing's been in in the last four or five years, I haven't really fucking gotten into.

I like drive. Almost everything that he's done. And I tell you what. Drive was good. Not drive. Drive was amazing. a giant fan of the original Blade Runner

oh it hurts to say that I fell asleep in the first 10 minutes I was explaining that to Alex earlier I fell asleep for 10 minutes it's a dense movie man I mean you can't go wrong with the notebook

I mean Ridley Scott but dude Ridley Scott is slow and this one is slow and I'm hoping they amp it up a little bit for this one they got to I mean it's Harrison Ford

returning to a major character that he fucked, I mean, he fucked up Indiana Jones with the Crystal Skull, so hopefully he makes up for coming back as a character. Yeah, good point. Yeah, that was bad. That was the horrible.

Nobody's arguing that one. I literally feel like the South Park episode, we just got raped like bad. Oh my God. Like straight up our booty holes with no loop, nothing. I literally think they could have

came out with a good Indiana of Jones even if he's older and stuff, but that was not it. Okay, a good Indiana Jones that was older was Sean Connery. Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Wait, what about the young Indiana Jones? I remember that shit? Our final trailer we're going to talk about is Leather Face.

I'm starring Finn Jones and Stephen Dorr. This one's going to hit me at home. Here we go. Let's go. I have a theory. Southern psychos, you guys are Louisiana and Texas. boys, right? Okay, yes. Well, he's Virginia. I'm actually

from Wisconsin. But, okay, I am from Wisconsin, which is the home of Eggeen, which inspired look of leather face. Okay, wow. All right. All right. Right. Boom.

This is fucking, this, no, now, this is a leather face movie we've been wanting to see, not the knockoff fucking version of the Australian, which was, I don't know what the fuck they were trying to do. Duh. You're going to get suit you can't name a movie leather face and not have anything to do with text change on master. Anyways, I have a theory. I have a theory. May I say my theory? I'd love to hear it. You've told me really here. Yes. Okay. So here's my theory on this new movie. And I think that

that the first leather face before the one we got to know in the 1970s was a female, possibly a sister or an older person that the guy looked up to and she was murdered and he literally took on her her thing like that is my theory I think she was a girl okay it was a girl because you see a girl wearing the face I don't think that's where they're going with this no what what leather face is my favorite horror character um because he's got a lot of depth to them. And in every Texas Chancel Masker movie,

they've just had him doing a sting. And this one, they're actually doing a little backstory in his childhood. And then kind of growing up, I don't know if he gets, from the trailer, I can't tell if he actually gets to his adult age,

but he definitely gets maybe late teens, early 20s. Right. right but but i think they really go into the psychological of how fucked up his family really is yeah and it's kind of hard because and it looks like they're actually going back into the massacre because back in the day there was like for maybe a week or or a few days it was there was an actual massacre in texas by a deranged family um but to really hype it up they created this leather face character based off Aguene.

So leather face is really just a portrayal of Agingin as, hey, I got up. I have a fascination with women and makeup, and I like wearing people's faces and his mask and putting their skin on lampshades and blah, blah, blah. That kind of hypes up what leather face looks like, but it doesn't hype up who he is, because who he is is not based off of Egg Gein. Only what Egg Gein has done makes Leatherface. But what makes Leatherface the person he is is his family. Growing up with a family that's completely psychotic

and they're basically just a family of cannibals. But I believe in this Leatherface movie, they're going to portray the actual massacre that really did occur in Texas. You mean a real fucking story? Okay. So there is like some sort of truth. I mean, because I've always heard that it was a true story and then you look back on it and it's like, no, they're based on Ed Ging.

So there really was some sort of truth in this Texas Chainsaw Massacre thing. Yes, that's literally why the title is Texas Chancel Massacre. It's not Florida Chancelaw Massacre. It happened in Texas. A lot of its rumor though, a lot of it's fictitious. not like that they based upon a true story. A lot of it, you know. Getting entire facts is near impossible these days,

but if you have a big enough hype in a state and then make a movie based off of it, it's still going to sell. People are still going to be interested in want to watch, you know, what happened, how it happened, and you can portray it any way you want it, and then people can start believing it if they believe movies are real.

unless it's based on a true story and I highly doubt that leather face this new one is going to come out saying based on a true story it would be cool if it did though it would be perfected if they did that because then

not only do you get to learn more about leather face himself but you get to learn about a true event that happened that's so gruesome that it launched what you know part of It was one of the films that launched what horror is today. But I'm extremely excited to see this,

and I think they're going to really knock it out of the park with the people that are behind making this film. I think it's going to be good. I'm more excited about this than I have been of all the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remakes. All right, before you guys get in the movies, I'm going to have to bid you guys good night. Good night. All right, Alex, we appreciate it, brother.

You gave us a lot of the inside info, man. All right. Thanks for having me on the show. Yeah. Have fun. Have fun. Have fun. Is it still going on tomorrow?

Yes, it is. But I won't be able to attend tomorrow. But I got my share today. Get to work, Alex. Get to work. Go to work. All right. See, guys.

Be cool. Thanks. Thanks for coming on, man. You were awesome. Thank you. Have a good night. You too. Yeah.

I'm probably going to head off. I'm going to, you know what, at this point? guys I will also bear whatever he said a jeet to you and yeah and yeah and yeah so good boy to you guys

nice no worries brother y'all have a good one it's good it was good talking to you hey and Philip Philip I was the blue guy I know you were the blue guy okay I actually look listen I went and watched

it again and I had like the opportunity to actually watch it. I was okay with that storyline. I liked it. You know, I mean, okay, listen. Oh, don't give you that shit. You know, my head. Hitting the guy in the head with the hammer. Come on, man.

You got to get a little better special effects with that shit. It was. We had other scenes, but it, like, we had his stuff, like, dripping all over his face, but it didn't make it into the final cut. Yeah, but it's all about the story, man. Yeah, and by the way, the dad, he was the original base player for Quiet Riot.

That was my dad, Kelly Garnie. Yes. Oh, that is awesome. I love Quiet, right. And Philip, man, your wife is messaging me on Facebook about this LDS thing. Do you know what that is? I don't know what that is. Yeah, the little dick syndrome, man.

You might want to go get that checked out. Oh, motherfucker. All right. There's a kick in the nuts. Ow! All right. Guys, it's been a pleasure. Thank you, Phil, for being a good sport.

Everyone, thank you so much for having us. And I look forward to more cameos or whatever you want. I'm always here. So thank you so much. Awesome, thanks, brother. I don't know, the chick that choked the other chick out, that was dumb. I'm sorry. We will talk about that.

And by the way, that was one of the directors for that was William H. Miller. He passed away two months ago. Yeah, and that was really heartbreaking. for us to hear through Facebook. And I called the other director, Jesse, Raz T. Slasher. And he explained to me that he died suddenly. And it was an upset, upsetting moment. And it was a great moment in a way because he was saying to me how much William really liked me.

And he always spoke highly of me and, you know, of how I was with movies. And we just, we really got along through Facebook. I never met him face to face. But it was a pleasure to get to know him as throughout. the year that I did on Facebook. Well, man, no joke. It's been a pleasure to get to know you. And you seem like a really cool guy.

I apologize. Oh, man. I'm going to keep this rolling, guys. I'm not kidding any of it. But some of the acting was bad. I got to give you. Keep it rolling. Ask me any questions you want about the movie.

And I will be as truthful as I can to not piss off anyone. So what, some of the acting, yes, some of the acting was bad, okay? A lot of the stuff in there was political reasons to put the stuff in the movie because of commitments and completion. And there was a lot of stuff that we had to take out of the movie because they were being fucking bitches in the end and pulling out the last fucking minute. Bro. And Lance knows who it is, which it is what it is. But they fucked us over with it. So we had to rush.

And that's why some of the acting is bad, is because we had to find stuff to feel. Really, it was just, like, the one with the two kids was a good story, but the acting was not quite there. But, I mean, because they were kids. I thought they were honestly on point because I know them. Like, that was literally them. That's how they act.

That's normal. Yeah. They were okay. They were not quite there. I like the guys at the end, the Slender Man thing. I thought they were, I mean, And they were kids and being kids, but it was, it worked. Yeah.

And then, uh, uh, yeah, the girls, I, that whole story was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was. Yes. Uh, actually, I stole that the script. They, they, they, they did the script and it was, it was, they kind of revamped it a little bit, but it was actually, that was like a fuck you to my ex. So, fuck you, bitch. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And that, she had a team. Totally big. sense. It was actually based off of a dream she had and she told me as we were like, like, after we broke up. And I was like, you know, that's a pretty good, you know, script idea. So I said, you know, fuck this bitch. I'm going to write it making my own. Not that I stole it. It was just a dream she had, you know, so fuck her. She fucked me hard. Man, you guys heard it first. Yeah. Fuck that bitch, bro. And she kissed my head. She always said

I was a joke and and that's one of the reason why I am the way I am right now is because when I was in a relationship with her she always said I was a joke no one would ever care about me no one cares about a homemade movie made in Louisiana um and you know what in that very next the very next October I became that's when I became my first international film festival award winner and then it just kept going and I kept I just kept fucking moving and I want to get better and to prove to her and to everyone that said I couldn't do it that I could do it and you know what? Look where I am

now. I'm worldwide. I'm in fucking Japan with subtitles of me speaking. Like what the fuck? Like I would never have ever expected that. Yeah. Mr. Worldwide. Oh, worldwide. Yeah, but like it's great man. I love

doing this stuff and you know some people say oh well that shouldn't be your motivation. Man, fuck you. I got picked on every single in high school, because they said I was too ugly, I couldn't act, I was too fat. Look at me now, bitch. You know. Oh, you, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm still a lot.

Like, like me a lot of myself and my brother, and, uh, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm nobody, but what I've accomplished, you know, I did everything, everyone's, everyone's I couldn't do and I'm still going. You know, no one's going to stop me. I may get knocked down, but you know what? The story doesn't begin when, you know, you make it. It's how you got there. It's when you get knocked down.

That's when the story begins. And it's how you rise. I'm not a master of my craft, but I love doing it. And as long as people enjoy watching it, wow, I don't enjoy it. As long as they buy it, they bought it, then I get money anyway. So no matter how bad the movie is or how good the movie is, if people watch it, then that's the whole point.

It's to entertain. Also, we are looking for filmmakers now for the sequels, plural. We want filmmakers that are motivated. If they got a short, a found footage, short, send it to us. I almost guarantee you it'll get in the movie. All right. Where do they send it to? Just go to Southern Psychos.com, and they could submit it through there,

like to contact us on the email on there. Go there. Go to Facebook page. upload to YouTube. Make it a private link so we can watch it, Vimeo, whatever. however you want to do it, you send it to us and we'll get you noticed. All right. Southern Psychos, hey, spell that out for us, dude, because y'all did it a little bit differently. Southern S-O-U-T-H-E-R-N-S-Y-K-O-S dot com.

And there's a little history on that. I mean, if you want me to, it's really quick. I can go really quick with that. Yeah, good. Okay, well, back in high school, I was kicked out of a private school when I was younger. there's this girl who called me a psycho because I was a different type of human being. Obviously, if I make movies like paranoid tapes, I'm not, you know, I'm not the normal person. And that's okay.

I fuck normal. If you want to be normal, fuck that. I want to be different. And, well, she called me psycho. And the name really stuck with me all throughout high school because teenagers back in a day, he didn't forget a goddamn thing and they just looked to run their mouth. And Chad and I told him about the story about what happened. and he's like, you know what?

Embrace that shit, man. He's like, you know what? We're going to be the Southern Psychos productions. So, bam. Bad ass. Yeah, so you embrace it. If they say you're something, fucking go with it.

Unless they say you're a serial killer, then I wouldn't suggest that. Might not go with that one, huh? Yeah, no, I wouldn't do that. But yes. But you can write about it. All right, cool. That's amazing.

All right, well, we're going to hit these movies now, Jack. We appreciate you being on. Anytime. Later, guys. It was a pleasure. Take care. Bye-bye. Thanks, buddy.

All right, cool. Well, again, we definitely want to thank Jack St. Hunter and Alex Tim at Southern Psychos Productions coming on the show with us. They had to skedaddle. They got duty calls getting the other film ready. But anyway, guys, thanks for being on the show. And I think, Philip, what is it time for now, man? Yeah, man. By the way, thank you guys so much for being on the show.

Y'all were awesome. but now it is time for listener feedback and we've got a little bit of it this week Eric Biont told us that inside is brutal I'm going to have to check it out Marcy Papandria from Australia

a friend of the show asked is Leatherface a chick now WTF was this trailer and then Eric and her went back and forth for a bit which you can follow on our group page at the horror returns group on Facebook. We won't go into a whole lot more detail on that, but I think that may have been the first victim, not necessarily leather face.

Yeah, that was the impression I got too. But we'll see. We'll see. I'd be fun. Needless to say, we got a lot of shoutouts to the late great George A. Romero, of course, this week, rest in peace, which Brian already. mentioned. Listener Bo Burchel from Nashville sent a picture of his new tattoo.

A quote from Stephen King's The Gunslinger times a thief of memory. We think it's pretty kick-ass on her to Roland and the cotet. You can see it in the Horror Returns group on Facebook as well. So really what we're getting at is go to the Horror Returns Facebook group. if you're not there what the fuck you're doing right uh

joe beel of columbus ohio sent us a really cool link with an article about kirk thatcher uh who actually played the punk on the bus that was his credited role in uh star trek four uh as well as reprising the same role

well not necessarily the same role but for spider man homecoming uh you're talking about spider man homecoming on the podcast or here's a nice little see a bit of the movie that will make track fans smile. Be sure to check that out also on the Horror Returns group Facebook page. And yeah, he's a different punk and just a little bit older. There's a whole cool little article about it, man.

It's kind of awesome. Marcus Will Turner from Fredericksson's Washington says, W.A. Is that Washington? Yeah. Yeah, Marcus, he's been pretty active on our group this week. It looks like. Appreciate that, Marcus. Gives us a lot to work with.

Yeah. So he just finished the first season of Ozark on Netflix. I don't even know what that is. Brian, do you know anything about that? It's popped up in my notifications. It's a new Netflix show. I think it has to do with a heist or something. I'm not completely sure.

I know I've seen his post and I told him, I try it out. and mention it next episode. It looks kind of interesting. As I think Jason Bateman in it. Oh, okay. What? Is it a comedy? I am not sure. I think it has to do with a heist.

Honestly, I don't know. Someone told me that it's a darker character, Jason Bateman's playing. He says it's on Netflix and he has no regrets. It's beautiful, abysmal, intense, and a great journey into crime. While the performances were good, Jason Bateman was the phenomenal,

driving force of this entire season. Like I've said before, I definitely appreciate it's dark side, and it translated well into this. Check it out if you get a chance, buds. Netflix has another winner on its hands. Wow. Well, damn, yeah, I'll definitely have to take a look at that. Netflix has kind of been on top of it lately.

And that's it for this week. Thanks to everyone who reaches out to us. We love the feedback. As always, you can reach us at our Facebook page or Podbean page, or the Facebook group, which we've told you four times today. Or you can email us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com.

We'd love to hear from you. Let us know what's up. This is Richard Brake, who plays Doomhead, and you're listening to The Horror Returns. Stay tuned. All right, cool. So that means now it's time finally for our featured attractions. It's Luke Besant Week here at The Horror Returns.

We are going to discuss the brand-new film, Valerian, and the City of 1,000. and planets, as well as 1997 is the fifth element. This fifth element trivia, as always, we'll start out with that. It was written and directed by Luke Besant, also known for Lucy

and the professional, as well as a number of other films. And Mark Kaman, I think, co-wrote it, known for the Karate Kid franchise movies. Either you guys know about that or heard that name before? Yes, sir.

Know about the Karate Kid. Wax on and wax off Go All right A couple of pieces of trivia The divine language Spoken by Lelu was invented by director Luke Besan

And further refined by Milo Jovovich She had little trouble learning And developing it as she was already fluent In four languages Wow The language has only 400 words Besan and Jovovich had conversations And wrote letters to each other

In the language's practice By the end of filming, they were able to have full conversations in this language. When filming began, the production decided to dye Milo Jovovich's hair from its natural brown color to her character's signature orange color. However, due to the fact that her hair had to be re-died regularly to maintain the bright color, Mila's hair quickly became too damaged and broken to withstand the dye. So eventually a wig was created to match the color and style of Leelue's hair and was used. for the remainder of the production. I couldn't tell.

I don't know if you guys could. No. No. And then finally, in the future, New York City Central Park is the same exact size as the real one and in the same place, but with one difference,

it's 100 feet in the air. I don't know if you guys notice that. When were they in Central Park? I don't recall that, do you, Brian? No, I don't. It must have just been like a landscape shot or something. I'm guessing.

I mean, there's so much shit in this movie, it's kind of hard to... You guys mind if I get started on this one? Go ahead. I go ahead. Yeah, because I had a great experience this time watching it. I did not really care for it that much the first time I saw it. Really? Yeah, I didn't care for it.

I think that I expected more. And I kind of thought Chris Tucker's character, at that time, at least, I thought he was a little too over the top, which I didn't appreciate. you know, Old one, I thought, ah, man, what's this silly Southern accent that he's doing? I was just thrown off.

I just didn't know what to expect, and I went into it, and, you know, I got this, you know, almost like a comic book type world with these far out characters. Right. You know,

basically the same thing that we get in the other movie we're going to talk about tonight, but I guess maybe I was just either too young to appreciate it or just expecting something more serious. You know, and then obviously,

you know, the great Brian James was in it. He was good, of course, as always. He's been in so much stuff that we've talked about, like enemy mine and things like that. And I couldn't, it was hard to take DeBone as the president. Yeah. I thought that was kind of weird. So, actually, I guess you kind of had a...

Especially since him and Chris Tucker were in the same movie again. I think, that was funny. Kind of had a Friday reunion. Yeah. But I was just, this time I watched it, I was just really, I was really delighted with it. You know, there was so much in there. I mean, obviously, I don't think there was anything Busson put in the movie that was on accident.

I think it was all done very intentionally. And I'll talk about it more in the next movie. But he's got, and I think, especially if you've seen Valerian, he's got a very Terry Gilliam type feel to his movies, which I didn't really, I guess I didn't appreciate Terry Gilliam too much either. The first few movies of his, I saw like Time Bandits. I thought it was silly when I was a kid, but, you know, now it's a classic. That one, and Baron Moonshaelan and 12 Monkeys, and I mean, he's just a, he's just a master filmmaker. And I think Beeson is kind of in the same, kind of cut from the same cloth, you know, the more I watch the movies and I appreciate it more. But I love some of the little touches, like the cigarettes that were like three-fourths filters.

Like, we don't quite, we don't quite quit smoking in the future, but, you know, we're kind of forced to cut way down. And I really like the way that the cabs were. I like the different levels of traffic. I like the way the cabs looked. I thought it was kind of a neat touch, sort of a throwback. And just, you know, really good visuals, extremely good acting. I appreciated Gary Oldman a lot more this time. Ian Holme was phenomenal as the priest.

And yeah, I have a lot of good things to say about this movie. What about you guys? You want to go ahead and go? Yeah, man, I'll go. I think this one is definitely in classic territory, man. Is it Bruce Willis's best movie? Probably not, but it's close. Same with Chris Tucker.

Chris Tucker's got a lot of movies too, but it's probably still not his best one. Definitely is Mia Jovovich's best one, though. She was awesome. Well, not even to slam on her, but she was amazing in this. I thought she was awesome. Oh, yeah. She fit right in. And I love everything that Bruce Willis is in.

I love Chris Tucker. Gary Oldman looks like a different fucking person in every movie that I've ever seen him in. So I love to do this one too. He's good. It was great, man. It was quirky. It was cool. It had, the story was maybe a little complex, but I like that snatch feel where there's like a bunch of different groups of people all after the same shit, you know what I mean?

Yeah. And I thought that was really cool. And I thought that they did a great job of it, you know? While the acting may not be like great, great, because I think some of it was not. like you said, Debo as president was a little lacking. But aside from that, man, the movie was awesome. It's just a classic. Brian, what are your thoughts?

It's really it, man. I also feel the same way. I love the visuals in this. I love the world that they created and all the different aliens. And when you go to different plans, a lot of detail went into this movie. that I also didn't really get into this movie. I've seen it when it first came out, and it really didn't touch base with me

until like rewatches on DVD, Blu-ray. But I think everybody's great in this. I will say I'm not a big fan of Bruce Willis in this movie. Really? I love you. I honestly think you could have cast to anybody else in this movie. But, I mean, when the time it came out, you know, Bruce Willis was pretty big at the time, so I understand the casting.

You know what my favorite scene was, though? Sorry not to cut you off. It's okay. Towards the beginning of the movie, when that guy tries to rob him and he's got like the picture of the hallway on his head. Oh. She was so late. Give me a catch. He does that little weird dance after he got his hands up.

That was great because Bruce, Willis looked at him after he took his gun and he kind of snickered he was like, nice hat. And he was like, yeah, it starts dancing. Like, it didn't make any sense,

but it was hilarious. I laugh every time I see that scene. I will say, I do agree this is Milojov. It's her best performance. If you look at all her action roles, this one for me stands out more than like,

like her, her resident evil roles. Yeah, definitely. And, um, she played as a, I,

really, that blows my mind that you tell me that, you know, they really created this language and then got to the point where they're having full conversations and writing letters. That's pretty amazing right there.

Mm-hmm. I loved her in every scene that I saw her in, in this movie. Yes. Uh, let's see. Chris Tucker, um,

I, I also agree. I did not like him. when I first seen this movie, I thought it was too much. It's because you'd had a lot of Chris Tucker at the moment. Yeah, I've grown to appreciate Ruby Ride off of many viewings. He kind of gets a little bit funnier for me every time I watch this movie. Right.

But overall, like, I really enjoyed this world. I like, I wish we had got more off of this movie, like, maybe a sequel for this movie. because I just, I wanted more of the world that they created. You got glimpses of other alien civilizations, other, you know, technology that I just really wanted to see more of. I was a little, little iffy on the actual, the aliens that had the stones. Because they look like giant tuba instruments walking around. Right. But, um, cartoonish look, right?

Yeah. But other than that, you know, this was a fantastic movie. And it's like, it probably will go down as well. one of my favorite sci-fi movies. Not in top five, but one that I will continue to revisit. Definitely classic, though. And pretty strong words. It sounds like all three of us enjoyed this one.

Did you guys have any scenes that you didn't like or anything that stood out as not as good on this viewing? I still, I don't get Gary Oldman's accent. I don't know. It just kind of, it's kind of okay to view. I don't know. I like it. I like it. I like it now, too.

The only stuff that threw me off was like some of the, some of the, like, real bad CGI stuff. But, you know, for when it came out, sure. It wasn't terrible. And as much as I, many times as I watch this movie, I always forget Luke Perry's in the beginning for reasons. I don't know.

Because he's only in the movie for five minutes. You're just like, holy shit, 90210. Yeah, I wouldn't say, after rewatches that I find anything that bothers me. You know, it's just, it's a great movie. You know, I have a lot of fun rewatching it. I watch it twice this. That's how much I liked it.

Wow. Yeah, dude. It's a great movie, man. I really love it. Yeah, I'm ready to watch it again, too. I mean, it's, yeah, it's definitely one that I'll have to start revisiting more often. And I'm like, you guys, I wish they would make a sequel. Unfortunately, I think they are making a Lucy, too, which I don't think is his strongest

movie? Yeah, they're making a Lucy too. It's been announced anyway. You're dumb concept to begin with. You don't only just a big percent of your brain. Not his best movie. I think they'll pull back off of the box office

of Ghost in the Shell. I think they'll pull back off of that one. Could be. Could very well be. I guess we'll find out. But yeah, this one would make a... This world, there's so much more to explore, you know? Yes. Here's my tiny rant on Lucy. I know it has nothing

really to do with this show, but I'm going to say it. All right. So the concept is you only use 10% of your brain and she's suddenly going to use 100% of your brain. But that's not a fucking true statement. You use 100% of your brain. You just only use about

10% at a time from different pieces. You know what I mean? It's not... Sure. I don't know. It was like a... They started out with a bad fucking idea. Yeah. Scientific A scientifically unsound idea. Right.

If it had come out 20 years ago, it might be a different story, but it didn't. It was a dumb idea. Fact check your shit before you come up with the script. All right. You guys ready for scores? Yep. All right. Well, I went first.

Yeah, it's, again, on the first viewing, I probably would have given it like a five. I was just like, ah, I mean, the middle of the road, not that great. Yeah. But I think I saw it in like 1998. I've done a lot of growing since then. I've seen, I've been exposed. to a lot of more, you know, a lot of different types of movies since then. Like I said, I'm a huge Terry Gilliam fan, but I absolutely hated the first time I saw one of

his movies, and it's kind of the same thing here. So I'm up to eight brothers. This is, on this viewing, this is a strong eight, for sure. You're right, pretty much in classic territory. I'm going to say it's, it's right smack in the middle of classic territory for me. I mean, is it up there with like some of the Pulp Fiction and Snatch type things? Eh, probably not, but it's close, man. I'm going to give it a 9.5.

I really love it. Oh, shit. Yeah. This was a great, great movie. And it holds up. I mean, there was those couple of scenes with bad CGI, but it's from 20 years ago, you know? Sure. Like, where they're slicing up or, well, they're not slicing up a brain, but they're like, when they're, when they're,

they're putting her together and they're showing the brain scans and stuff. Rebuilding her and everything. Yeah. And then like the planet wide scenes were a little goofy. Okay. You just you just, okay, you just reminded me of something. But I kind

of had a problem with that I noticed I noticed on this last viewing that you brought up the scene where they're reconstructing her. Yeah. When she punches out of the glass, I don't know if you guys are going to rewatch it again, the glass is already

has a is cracked. Oh, really? Yeah, it's cracked in the shape of the hole. So it's almost like pre-broke so she can punch through it. I noticed it on this viewing. And I, and I had a little slight issue with the tinfoil wall. She jumped through. Let's build your walls a little stronger in the future than tinfoil.

Yeah, they're, they're special. I feel like the, the, the, the quirkiness of this movie and, and the story. made up for some of the cheesiness because they definitely had some cheesiness. Yeah, like Chris Tucker's hairdo? What the fuck is up with that? I mean, I guess it's the future, right? It was cheesy, but it wasn't bad. But, like, yeah, you're talking about the tinfoil wall,

and, like, some of the special effects were not awesome, and some of the acting was, like, not quite up to par. But I think everything else made up for it. Yeah. Yeah, on that note, I will say, you know, the story and the special effects. And like I said before, the world that they built is going to have,

I'm going to give it an 8.5. This movie is great and it gets better on rewatches. Some strong scores, guys. I wonder if Valerian can stand up. We shall see. Guess we're going to find out. I've already heard mixed reviews from it. Yeah,

a lot more bad than good. That's for sure on the critics. But you know what? None of the critics matter on this show. There's only three people right now who matter, right? We're the only opinions that matter at the moment. At least why you're listening to this. And we hope to get some discussions going.

Hopefully we'll have some varied opinions on it. That's always our hope. Give everybody something to talk about. I imagine. So Valerian and the City of 1,000 planets, actually when we started recording, the first part of the show. I hadn't seen it yet, and I did actually get to go see it, so I'll be able to talk about it as well, guys. It was written and directed by Luke Besson, and it was based on a French comic book by Pierre Christine and Jean-Claude Mezes.

Luke Besson first premiered some footage at the 2016 San Diego Comic-Con, and this footage received a standing ovation from the crowd in Hall H. I figured I'd work that in since we got Comic-Con news coming up next week. All right. The futuristic New York City in Luke Besant's previous film, The Fifth Element, was visually inspired by the Circles of Power, which happens to be the 15th volume in the Valerian and Laurelene comic series. Interestingly enough, so I guess these are probably some comics. I'm guessing that he read when he was young, and he's probably read all of them.

So big influence on his other works, I would guess. The movie was released in 2017, of course, which was the 50th anniversary of the Valerian comic book. I think you guys might have a different opinion than I do, so I think, Philip, you want to go ahead? Yeah, I want to go. All right. I watched this, it's a visual fucking masterpiece. I watched this movie with my jaw drop the whole time. It was like, oh, this is awesome.

Did you see it in 3D? I saw it in 3D. I'm glad I saw it in 3D and I'm glad I saw it in the theater. It was, I loved it. It was two hours and 24 minutes and I wasn't bored for a single second of that. I think that the relationship between the characters was a little bit forced at the beginning, but they had good chemistry and I think that that worked well. I don't know about Dane DeHan as like the heartthrob badass fucking special forces guy since he looks like a, you know, 16 year old heroin addict, but.

Yeah, can somebody get him a pillow and blanket and tell him to take it back? Right. He does. He looks like he hasn't slept in three days all the time. Oh, kidding. Oh, boy. But I still, I still think, as, as. As hard as he is to put in that, he's a captain in this space military thing.

And he's supposed to be like the baddest special forces guy that the humans have to offer is what I gather from the movie, right? Sure. And I feel like once you swallow that pill, it's a big ass pill and you're in a neat glass of water for it. but once you swallow it it's not so bad you know what I mean and I think the rest of the movie

did great like I said I love the chemistry between the characters the visuals were awesome they had so much so many things going on in the background and so many other little characters and other little aliens walking in that it was like

you didn't really have time to get bored It was like Avatar meets Star Trek to me. It's a good analogy there. Yeah, like it's not going to win Best Picture of the Year. It's probably not even going to be a classic film. But I do put it on the same level as Avatar, and it is stupid blockbuster summer fun. If you turn your brain off for a minute and go sit down and watch this,

you'll have a great time. It was awesome. I loved it. Anything negative to say? Besides the hanged-de-ha heroin look? Yeah, I mean, just aside from that, like, I had to, I had to jump that hurdle in the first, you know, 20 minutes in the movie of, okay, these two kids are supposed to be, like, badass military people. Right. Well, it is, it is the future, you know, so, you know, there may be a situation where a lot of the older people have died, and more of these younger people are forced to take on these.

roles, you know? It's possible. And, you know, I mean, there were some instances where the acting maybe wasn't awesome, but I thought that the two-man characters did pretty well on their acting job. Okay. It was the little comic relief characters on the side, the other human military guys. Okay, sure. They were a little lackluster.

But still, like I'm saying, if you're not reading too much into it, man, it's a really, fun time. I had a great time at this movie. Cool. Brian, what about you, man? Okay. I am with you. I also seen this in 3D. And it is visual candy for your eyes. It is beautiful looking.

I also, Luke Bassan, he builds these universes and these worlds. He puts it on the screen and it's amazing. With that being said, I hated almost everybody in this movie. I did not buy the chemistry between Dane Dahan and Kara Delavine.

She can go back to Suicide Squad. Because I don't know. I'll get into her stuff in the spoilers, but. She was really forced in the beginning. Yeah, but I felt like as the movie went on, it got a little better. I think, yeah, I will say that. I will say that a little bit. It got a little bit better, but I just, you know, I wasn't buying it at first.

Clive Owen was probably the worst villain this year, honestly. Yeah. I'll give you that. But not to be completely negative, I did enjoy it. I liked how you had all these different aliens, and they kind of got into it more than, let's, you know, go on back to the previous movie Fifth Element. You know, they kind of give a little, you know, little facts about different species. and I love this

what was the space station? Alpha, was it? That's what it was called? Yeah, it got so big that they had to take it out of Earth's orbit so that it wouldn't steal the gravity from Earth. I loved all that. Yeah.

That was amazing. What did you think about the aliens from the planet mule? They were, I mean, the design of them was okay. I did like how their plan it was and their whole purpose of purpose of life and all of that without you know giving anything away but yeah i thought that part was fine yeah it's in the first like a couple of

scenes in the movie so sure yeah but yeah i i i i kind of liked them they were super cg i it was very avatarish but uh yeah yeah they were a super cgian they weren't no caesar going on i'll tell you that. Right. Because there were, there were, a couple times I was noticing the, the, the, the, the, the, the, when they were talking, it wasn't matching up with their mouth moving. So. Oh, yeah.

Wow. But, um, but, but they're aliens. Yeah, but. Yeah. But, um, overall, I think Luke Besson did a fantastic job of showing this, showing us these, uh, this other world and these other, other, other creatures. And that, that, that kind of saved the movie for me right there. And I did, for the most part, enjoy the story going along.

We'll get into that later. But I think the casting just took me out of it a little bit. Okay. Fair enough. I got to say Rihanna. Yeah. Don't say too much yet. Oh, well, I mean, you know, she's in it.

Yeah. Like, part of the time I liked her, and part of the time I didn't. What? Like maybe I like the visual Rihanna and not necessarily the talking Ryanna. Okay.

Wow. It's the only thing that I can think of. So you want Rihanna to show up on screen and not say anything. Right. That would be awesome. You know what? I cannot argue with you on that one.

Because she's got a lot of like bigger roles lately and I'm like, why? Right. This doesn't make any sense. Anyway, that was it. Good enough, man. Well, okay, well, I didn't really know what to expect.

I mean, I kind of knew what to expect. I knew I wanted to see it because I knew the visuals were going to be great. I mean, we could tell that from the trailers, right? Unfortunately, I didn't see it in 3D, but I will be going back to see it in 3D, guaranteed. Probably wait until the... That's super cool. I would say wait until the crowds die down a little bit, but unfortunately, it's not doing very well at the box office. I think I picked the one movie theater.

I think I picked the one fucking movie theater in all of Texas that was completely fucking packed and AJ ended up having to sit kind of near the front, which sucked. But as soon as I sat down and we got through all the trailers and they started that that little intro at the part with the David Bowie Space Oddity song playing in the background. Dude, I was in chills, man. I mean, I was almost, I think maybe I had a few tears just from seeing all that. unfold and how they showed the history, how the space exploration started. And I mean, they went, they went back in time and they showed, they showed stuff from the

beginning of the space program. And then they, they kind of bring you up through, you know, sort of a montage to where they are, you know, for the time of the movie. And I just thought that was one of the most clever intros I've ever seen in my life. And it really hit home to me because I'm a huge, you know, fan and supporter of the space program. As far as the movie itself, it's going to have some really, really stiff competition for the movie Get Out right now, because as you guys know, that's been far and away my favorite movie of the year so far. It may not be anymore. Get Out may not be my favorite movie of the year.

I fucking loved everything about this movie. There is not one second. And you're right, man. It's a two and a half hour movie. I didn't look at my cell phone to check the time once. I didn't look around to see anything. They were, they were, they were, I had a pretty good crowd, even though there were a lot of people in there. There were a couple of people moving around, but I, I don't know what was going on outside me and the movie, because I got so into this. Yes, the storyline was a little bit childish, which is kind of cool, because it's kind of

neat that it was sort of a simple story that you really don't get all these twists and turns. I kind of liked it, too. But the visuals, as you, I mean, the visuals are out of this world, the part, and I won't going to too much detail here, but really, really early in the movie when they showed a lot of virtual reality and the way that they create virtual worlds and things like that, it had so much social commentary about what's going on with us and where our society is right now. And the way that they did the virtual reality makes perfect sense that it would be just like that, that time in the future. Oh, like the alternate dimensions and like the shopping center? Well, absolutely. And

some of them are created by technology and us. creating basically new realities with technology, things that we know are going to happen. All right, Dane Dianne, I'll start with negative. Dane Dianne and Kara Delavene were okay. My biggest complaint, not enough Rihanna and not enough Clive Owen. I disagree, Brian, you said Clive Owen was the worst villain. I think he was really great. I shouldn't even said he was a villain yet.

But, I mean, it becomes obvious fairly early. I think people who've seen the trailer hopefully know that. I hope I didn't give any. And they kind of, yeah, like the second that he shows up, you kind of know, okay, that's probably going to be the bad guy. Yeah, very obvious. Super, super telegraphed. I think it was done that way by design. I'm going to say it again.

Luke Besan does not, he knows exactly what he's doing. He's not making one mistake in these movies. There's not one thing in any of his films that he doesn't put there on purpose and including that. And like I said, not enough Clive. because I really liked his character. Definitely not nearly enough, Rihanna, and I liked everything about her. I liked the character and I like the visuals, Philip. When you had all these, I'm not going to even, I don't want to go into the laundry list of who all shows up that you wouldn't expect,

but you start seeing people show up in different roles, and they're so, they're in so much heavy makeup, and there's in such deep character that you're like, is that, that is him. Holy shit, that is him. That happened like four times. Yeah, this one that shows of Rihanna, and I was like, you're in this movie? That was fucking amazing, dude. And then the president of the World State Federation, I recognized him immediately. That was a blast from the past.

All right. We have to go into spoilers because I'm not sure who you're talking about. All right. We'll cover all that. We'll cover everybody who shows up in it. It makes cameos. Oh, and at the very entry, early part, I don't know the actor's name, but I've seen him show up in a few different things. but the tour guide that was taking all the people through the uh through big market wasn't that

wasn't that a great character yeah yeah and there was another character that was uh that was in there was another oh the couple were great man yeah spot on dude you're typical ugly americans right you know they were like yeah textbook you know mid-de-h high class americans just shopping at the world That's exactly right. I can't say enough good things about this movie, guys. I'm telling you, man, this is one of my top. Absolutely a top five of the year. And I think right now it may have just passed up, get out.

But I think once I go see it in 3D, I'll be able to give you a better answer on that. Well, I guess I'll rate it first. I'm going to give it a, man, I'm going to give it a nine. I just, you know, I think it's a high score for what this movie is. Right. But there's something to be said for a two hour and 24 minute movie that I didn't get bored of at all. Oh, it was just nonstop from start to finish. There wasn't a dull moment in the movie.

Yeah. That's hard to do. There's some really great movies out there where, like, you know, two hours into it, I'm like, okay, when is this going to be over? Right. And that didn't happen on this movie. It was fun to watch. With the exception of the casting, if it wasn't for the visuals and the story

and yes, there was a lot of action in this, I probably would have gave it a lower score, but I'm going to go with a seven. Okay, not too bad. Not too bad. It sounds like you're saying it's worth a watch. Oh, it's definitely just, and I recommend everybody watch this in 3D.

Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to. It's one of those things. It's not a wait for DVD release. You know what I mean? If you're going to see it, go see it in the theater where it's on the big screen and you can appreciate what they've done here. Totally agreed.

But I guarantee you I will be buying it on DVD or iTunes or both. Yeah, like I said, top movie of the year so far. I'm giving it a same score. Philip gave it a very strong nine. Really, really great. And in my opinion, in my opinion, thus far, Luke Besant's masterpiece. I have been hearing, like, since it came out, like, it's starting to get word of mouth that people are like, because I think people prejudged it before it came out. I think so, too.

And the critics are piling all over it, man. Yeah, I've heard fans starting to get a little bit of a buzz. I don't know if it's enough to, because this was a massive budget on this one. I imagine, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it kind of surprised me that it didn't, like, they didn't push it more before it came out, and it didn't get a whole lot of hype, really, at all. Because, yeah, I mean, it was, I just seeing, I didn't see the last trailer until the last movie that we saw, like last week.

And then when I saw that trailer, I was like, holy shit. Honestly, I think they could have maybe went with a different title. Oh, yeah, pretty clunky title. After we saw the movie, we went and did some shopping at the Allum all over there, and we were in one of the stores, and AJ said, yeah, we just went to the movies. He made me sit through a science fiction movie, so I get into shop now. And the lady said, oh, what did you see? And I said, oh, Valerian and the city of a thousand planets.

She said, oh, I haven't heard of either of those. So there you have that. You guys ready for sports? That sounds about right. That's what I'm saying. They didn't, they didn't, like, push this one at all. It's crazy. I don't know that it's on the same level cult classic as, as Fifth Element will be.

Right. But it is on the same level to me as Avatar. That's pretty high praise. Avatar also had not a great story, but really great visuals. Exactly. I would probably revisit this first before I revisit Avatar. Me too. Yeah. I like this one better, actually, I think. Yeah. No doubt. You guys ready for spoilers?

Yes. Yeah. All right, cool. Who's going first? This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Did you want to get into the cameos that popped up? Yeah. Why don't you? You want to? You want to go through some of those?

Okay, the one I was talking about with Rihanna, Ethan Hawke. He played Jolly the Pimp. Yeah, Ethan Hawk was great. Oh, yeah. He stole the show until Rihanna showed up a few minutes later. I thought Rihanna was great as a person, but when she's a, like, blob. No, come on, dude. I like her.

I think that she's cheesy. I think I didn't like her in the animated thing that she did home. Yeah, well, that would just be a shitty movie. Well, it doesn't necessarily a shitty movie, but actually, actually, I'm going to tell you what, I like Rihanna better in home. Oh, ouch. Just on the waist side of it than I did in this one. I felt like when she was, when she was like changing.

forms and stuff as a person when you first met her that whole scene was great. I felt like she did a great job there and I was like holy shit, Rihanna's actually got a hold of this acting thing. I actually thought that while I was watching the movie.

Well, her character led to a scene that I'm sorry to cut you off. Yeah, her character led to a scene that just had me rolling my eyes actually where she dies and she's... Oh yeah. Telling Valerian.

That could have been bad. Cara Delavine's character really looked like she gave a shit. Right. Someone that helped him to escape and that is dying. And also told Valerian to, you know, take care of her. You know, this is someone, she didn't even, she hasn't even met Loreline. Right. And then when you cut to Loreline's face, it's just really like, I don't know.

I don't care for Cara Delavine or whatever her name is. I thought she was horrible. I thought she was. I thought she's a horrible actress. I thought she was horrible in this. She was horrible in... Danehondon was fine. Come on.

Okay, so here's the thing. I know I'm going to be catching some shit for this. No, I'm not mad at you because I kind of like Dane Dahan. I think Dane Dhan plays a better villain than he does a hero. But like I said, once you swallowed that big ass pill, I like him in this movie. I think he was great. And I think that they had really cool.

chemistry. And I thought that, like, that first scene, I didn't like either one of them. But as the movie progressed, I was like, oh, she's kind of sexy. You know what I mean? And they had this, like, cool kind of chemistry. And I wanted it to happen, you know? And another thing I wanted to know was how long were they actually partners? Because they look super young.

They look super young. and he's like professing his love for her. Okay. But he's also mentioned he's had other partners. Yeah, like I said, I took it to mean that in the future that so many people died in that war and in some of the other big wars that are going on that there just aren't that many adults to go around anymore. And they're having to get these people to start doing military work earlier and earlier. So I didn't find it that hard to believe that.

But, hey, Brian, tell us about a few of the other people who showed up that you didn't expect to play the parts they were in. Well, you mentioned the president of the World State Federation. Right. Rucker Howard was the president. Rector Howard, Philip. The hitchhiker himself. Did you recognize him?

No, I didn't catch it. And then we got... Blind Fury himself. We got John Goodman voiced a character in this movie. Oh, yeah, I didn't catch that one. Yeah, that's a very recognizable voice right there. quickly. And I don't know if you guys, as far as music goes,

we got a cameo from you guys ever heard of Herbie Hancock? Of course. Musician. Yeah, absolutely. He was the defense minister that they kept pulling up on screen. Mm-hmm. Oh. Yep, that was him.

That was another thing. Apparently, defense minister really doesn't get no respect because Dane DeHan really was blowing him off left and right. Yeah. Maybe he should have stuck with music. Just in general. He's like, Oh, Dane Dahan wasn't a captain. He was a major.

Ah, okay. Oh, there you go. Well, that's a step above captain. How in the hell has this kid made it to major? Lower line was a sergeant. Right. Which is all kinds of not right. Right.

I had to throw out there. the future, dude. Titles can change around a little bit, you know? I will say their suits were bad ass. That's what that is. Their suits were badass, though. They were. That was cool.

Which led me to one issue that he put his suit to use. I don't remember her ever using her suit, really. She didn't need to. She had enough other skills. Yeah, but I don't know. you have a lot of a lot of gadgets and weapons on the suit and it could, I don't know, it seems

to boost your strength and everything and there was a couple times where I thought her suit was going to come into play but it didn't. I hear you, man. But I liked the little, the scene where you've seen everything that the suit can do where he had to like

take a shortcut basically. Yeah, that was awesome. That was probably one of my favorite scenes. I really liked that one. Yeah, that's the one I got to see in 3D for sure. Yeah, that one was super cool. I liked the whole hectic thing happening in the world market. Yeah, beautiful, beautifully done.

Yeah. And those are really the two that I remember the most. I mean, aside from, you know, Rihanna's little show, which was pretty kick-ass. Pretty kick-ass. Yep, absolutely. I didn't expect that. I mean, I hadn't forgotten she was going to be in the movie, and I kept waiting for her to show up, you know. I can't believe that they waited so long to get her in there, but I don't know.

Maybe it made it more effective that way, you know? Yeah, no, I totally forgot. And then she showed up and I was like, oh, yeah. And then she did that thing with the nurse's outfit. Oh, my God. Don't get me started on any of that. Oh, my goodness. Catwoman, and is she really that flexible, or was that CGI?

I don't know. I think that was somebody else. Yeah. That was, that was a weird thing. They just wanted to put a weird twist on the, on the stripper deal, I think. Right. They did. And I, you know, I'm going to say, I've never really been a huge Rihanna.

Like, she was never my girl, you know what I mean? Yeah, I totally understand. I never had a thing really for her, but I thought she looked great in this movie. Yeah, I just. recently had a conversation about her. Like, she's a very beautiful woman, but it just doesn't do it for me.

Right. She's, she's, she's, she's kind of skinny and yeah, you know, it's, she didn't really do it for me usually, but in this movie, she was out. Well, any, any, any last thoughts?

Any last thoughts? I know everybody can, uh, I know everybody would probably love to have one of them little creatures that whatever you feed it reproduces. That's awesome. I thought that was really cool right there. Yeah. And to be the girl on the show, they were super cute.

I want to snuggle up with him at night. Yeah. I was, again, just super, I mean, not totally surprised. I thought I was going to like it, but I didn't think because I was. and like it this much. I was very worried it's going to be another Jupiter ascending scenario for me, which I thought absolutely sucked.

How? Not to go off the rails, as we usually do, but how is that movie? I keep seeing it. Don't bother. It's like my thumb won't push play. Yeah, go and smart watch it, unless you have got nothing else to watch

like, no joke, it was bad. There's been times I've had nothing else to watch and I've found something else to watch. And listen, I actually really appreciate that dude. What's his name? Oh, you're talking about the actor? Yeah, yeah. Magic Mike?

Yeah. He's got a shitload of movies coming out. You know, he's going to be in it. Go ahead. Yeah, he's going to be in the new, because we saw two trailers for movies he's going to be in. One called Lucky Louie or something, where he plays like a crook, stealing from a I don't know kind of a Daytona race

or something like that and then he's got another one he's going to be in which is the follow up to Kingsman Oh yeah What the fuck is his name? What the hell is his name Brian? Save us here Channing Tatum

Tanning Tatum That's it Okay Or if you go with What's his name From Eastbound and down Right What do you call him in

This is the end? Tanning Tate Yum. Oh, shit. That's a great movie. Right. But listen, I actually, I really like Channing Tatum. I appreciate him as an actor. I do.

But yeah, that movie. Well, next week when we do our Comic-Con episode, I'm probably going to blow your guys' mind with the role that he is rumored to be up for. Oh, man, we can't wait. I'm not going to try to look anything up. I'm going to wait to hear it from you, man. Yeah, because if it's true, I'm probably going to go ahead. You go ahead first. If this role's true, then I'm probably going to, I'm going to wash my hands of this franchise.

Uh-oh. I'll just say that. Okay. No, okay, because I was thinking when I left this movie, I was like, man, you know, I really liked it, but I'm not sure I was buying the whole Dane to Han thing. who played this character What about Channing Taiton? No, no

I probably pick these two actors and found people that had good chemistry because I didn't feel like they had If it's like Lance put it like Maybe the soldiers are younger in this world

I probably would have loved to see Anton Yelchin Oh wow Yeah I could see that Definitely definitely could see that I don't know

all right well listeners tell us who you would have cast anybody who's seen the movie and if you're still listening by now you probably have either that or you don't you're buying the hype from the critics that it sucks

and you're not going to see it and you're still listening to us so give us your ideas we want some feedback with horror returns group or email at the horror returns at gmail.com who would you have cast

instead of day and de Han and we'll see what we get in. So on that note, so the show doesn't go to three hours with all the interviews and stuff, we definitely want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. And of course, you know, we'd like to hear your feedback and ideas. I gave you the email. You know where to find us, ready to review us on iTunes. And next week, as Brian said, it is our Comic-Con wrap-up week as well as Killer Blonde week. So we're going to be talking about the brand-new atomic blonde

as well as Kill Bill are we doing volumes one and two Brian? Yeah, because to me they're one movie to me.

All right. Okay, two parts of the same movie, that makes sense. Yeah. All right, cool.

I'm not at that. Nope. Me neither, man. That makes perfect sense. And we are going to be joined by a special guest Alfonso Salazar

from the Bad Boys Podcast Network. Nice. So I'm looking forward to that. And, uh, Philip, what else, man? Man, I think that's it.

Send us some stuff on our Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Podbeam. Shoot us an email at thehorror returns at gmail.com. All right, cool. Put you in on listener feedback. Definitely, definitely. And we are going to be getting t-shirts made within the next month, and I know we owe at least three.

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