The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #64: Las Peliculas de Mexico - Santos Vs. las Mujeres Vampiro (1962), Night Of 1000 Cats (1972) & The Devil’s Backbone (2001) (Reupload)

Episode Date: February 12, 2022

This week, Pedro Nunez joins us to talk about Santos Vs. las Mujeres Vampiro, Night Of 1000 Cats and The Devil’s Backbone. Thanks for listening!

victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language.

Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome home. This is the podcast that proves the horror never ends. Each episode, we seek out to review a brand new horror movie. Although we're going to do a little different this week, we are going to be going south of the border to the films of Mexico. and covering films of three Mexican directors, at least two.

Did any of you guys get a chance to check out Santo? I do. Yeah, I watched it. I sort of like breezed through it, so I have a little to say, but not a whole lot. That's how you're doing with those kind of movies. Yeah, I figured it was much. You hit the nail right on the head, Pedro. We do include spoilers for the new film.

Well, actually, we'll include spoilers for all the films because they've been out of while. Yeah, the newest one from 2000. Ah, man, I'm telling you, we go, we go back on this, on this show, uh, what, 1970, 772 and 2001, right guys? Yes.

Yeah. Awesome. All right. Well, then I'll just get this out of the way, especially if you're a new listener to the show. The other thing that we may do from time to time is use a few four letter words. This is a horror podcast and horror movies do tend to be R-rated. So you can pretty much expect us to be too.

I'm Lance and with me as always are my co-host Brian and Philip and joining us tonight is our good friend Pedro Nunes from the K-fabulous Lucha Brothers podcast Pedro what do you guys up to over there man? Oh man that's the listening to your intro That's the complete opposite of our show We're like the most unproduced, uncoordinated, un-PC show you could ever imagine

And we just kind of wing it every time we go out there And we're just you know we review old wrestling show. So if you're a fan of wrestling, you know, everything from WWE, WCW, ECW, we run the gamut. We talk a little international stuff, you know, Lucha, Japanese, you know, give us a shot, you know, we're different. The reason why we're a little bit more unconventional and up PC is because there's thousands of podcasts that are, first of all, they've got bigger

budgets than we do. And I felt that if you can't, if you can't compete with those kind of podcasts, we have to be different. So we You know, we see the humor side of wrestling, and we kind of joke around. I tend to get pretty hammered when I do those shows. So, yeah, we pretty much just review old wrestling shows, and that's pretty much, and then we talk a little bit of news now, because our fan base is growing, and they kind of wanted us to tackle some of the more recent events. So we do that now a little bit more.

And that's pretty much it. So, yeah, Fabulous Lutcher Brothers, we're on Geekdom 101.com, and, you know, check it out. if that's your thing awesome man so you guys get right in here you guys cover any midget wrestling oh i mean from time to time you'll see midgets on the main show you know the actual wrestling is that if you're like five foot 10 back in the 80s you were considered a midget by a lot of these promoters you know because they hired nothing but monster steroid monsters and stuff so uh yeah i guess by default we do cover fidgets all right that's cool man well hey What's your cool of the week, man?

What's the coolest thing you've checked out this week? Usually most of these films are kind of these little gems you kind of find on VOD nowadays because a lot of these films just won't get theatrical. But, you know, this one has a big studio behind it. And I know the filmmaker that directed it did a bunch of, like, cool shorts that have, like, a big following on the internet. You know, I'm not going to spoil it because it's still fairly new. But board tropes that kind of get on my nerves nowadays, which, you know, this film has an abundance of.

But I expected that this is a big studio film And then, you know Again, this is not spoiling it. It's just The actual possession, which is put it that way And the people that have seen I know what I'm talking about I thought that was a little bit too simplistic, you know And that's pretty much it. But besides that, it's a great time, fun film, it expands the mythology

Of the Conjuring series and then, you know, other stuff in there nice little Easterings in there. So yeah, definitely go check it out. I always support these four films because, again, we don't get them every day. We don't get them every week anymore like we used to back in the 80s and the 90s. And anytime we get a film like this, whether it sucks or it's good, I always go support it because that's really what we're going to get more of them. Yeah, good point, man.

Yeah, that was a good wrap up there. I think it was kind of the consensus last week, man. We reviewed that one, and it came over about the same way. dumb and fun but scary as shit I'll tell you what I was though that sound editing maybe I was in a very good theater it was I mean that filmmaker used that sound you know he squeezed

before I was worth because you could hear every nook and cranny of that house and that was part of the film director that was just the way he the sound editing came out was great and that was you know again when you're in that theater environment you kind of want that so that was pretty cool

nice yeah well I just broke away to to come with you guys from a show that my wife and I've been watching this week that's definitely my cool of the week. It's not, uh, it's not horror at all, or even sci-fi or anything like that, but, uh, you guys heard of the new show on Netflix called Ozark? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I benched it.

It was pretty good. Yeah? You done? You checked it all out? Oh, man, I'd say this, but I did the 12 hours done in about 12 hours. That's awesome, man. Yeah. Oh, well, don't spoil anything because I think we're, I think we're like the eighth episode.

But, yeah, this is awesome. Basically, it's Jason. Jason Bateman kind of gets in a situation where he has to launder money for the cartel. And so he convinces the guy not to kill him. That's not a spoiler. That happens in the first, literally the first 10 minutes. He says he can go make a bunch of cash and he moves out to the Ozarks. So he goes to set up shop there and runs into all these crazy characters there

and finds out stuff that's going on. But I think, Pedro, would you say it's kind of like the next Breaking Bad? It has similarities, but I think it causes don't little identity towards the middle and later episodes. But definitely in the beginning, the initial reasoning and all that. And then you have the old blue-collar dad, you know, with the family and all that and doing illegal activities. Certainly the comparisons are there. And then once he hits the town of Ozark, then you start getting some of those Twin Peaks kind of vibes, you know, with the characters in that town. I've never seen that.

Yeah. So, I mean, you've never seen Twin Peaks. We've never seen the comparison. No, I've never seen Twin Peaks. I've got a couple of people tell me I need to check it out. I've seen the new season yet because I just want to binge it just because it's so out there that you're not going to get much from the entire run to get the complete picture. But yeah, so people should definitely check it out. It's very bingerable.

I mean, once you see the pilot, you know, if you're not hooked from the pilot, you're probably not going to like the remaining episodes. But, you know, I dare say that people are going to like it for sure. Fair enough. Cool. Yeah, I, I'm going to take over and say Game of Thrones. I'm going to steal Brian's from last week, man. Somebody's picked it every week. Even last week's episode where they had like one of the biggest reveal moments in the show,

and they just kind of blazed right over it. It's when Tarley and his girl are sitting there talking. I don't think a lot of people caught it, man, but I was like, wait, did you just, what? Not to spoil anything, so I won't get too much. You know what I'm talking about it. You can spoil it, dude. Tell us, tell us about it. Oh, I don't know if I'm going to spoil it, yeah.

All right, you know, hold on. All right, I guess you. Maybe wait until we do the end of season or something. Well, I already saw this week's episode, so I'm off. Yeah. I thought how these things are dropping. Right. Yeah, I saw the leak.

episode for this week and oh my god yeah we don't we don't want to say anything on that one for sure holy shit it's a good episode man i am i am i am not going to be ready for this show to end i'm excited about the whole thing or still yeah about another year for the right for sure man some shit like that man i ever talk about bringing it out later i'm not about that what do you thinking brian uh about the about the latest episode or? Well, I bet you're cool of the week, brother. Oh, the cooler week.

I checked out the first two episodes of Room 104, the new anthology show on HBO. The Duplus Brothers, right? Yeah, it's pretty good. You know, it's not horror. You know, each story is like kind of almost like a different genre. And not going to really spoil it, spoil it either, because it's a fairly new show.

first episode has to do with a babysitter and the second one has to do with what was it a pizza delivery guy and it's just like some crazy stories going on and uh it's not like a setup for a porno movie

yeah well the second episode kind of I was a copy yeah I was about to say a little bit on the pizza delivery one yeah and uh

you think they did that on purpose probably and I'm already six episodes in on the defenders that came out today Oh shit I hadn't even started it

And so far it's pretty good You know Iron Fist still sucks No I mean he has He has moments where I'm kind of like Finally you're doing something But

I'm not I'm completely not sold on the fight choreography when it comes to him but it was cool to see all of them together so yeah though that's pretty much

been my cool of the week apparently the next stand-alone movie is going to be an Obi-1 Kenobi movie no yeah what do you think about that

Pedro I mean they got a juze for God's worth, they paid $4.4.5 billion for this franchise, so we're going to get one of the year, you know, so whether we like it or not. You know, I think, I think, you know, a Bubba Fed movie is still pretty good. I think Darcyt's movie would be interesting and an OB-1 movie. Those are the three I'm looking forward to. I mean, once you start hitting those, like, you know, fourth, fifth-string characters, and I'll be like, okay, we get it, you know.

But, you know how it is. We're still going to be there on opening day, like a bunch of bandboys, you know, right? as they say, in wrestling, ready to mark out for all the action. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be wrong yet. Yeah, you're correct on the Boba Fett. That is in the pipeline.

As possible, they said they're speaking on possible movies after Obi-Wan is Boba-Fet, Yoda, and Jabba the Hut. Ooh, Yoda. Jabba the Hut, too. But you know what's interesting about all these films is that one of the things that made this character so interesting in the original trilogy was their mystery, you know, and... Sure, sure.

The aura of, like, you know, you didn't really know them. You knew them, but you didn't really know them, you know, and now it's almost like, obviously, with all these new films coming out, we're going to see all these characters in a whole new light, you know, and it could be good or it could be bad. I don't know yet, but, I mean, somebody, like, Jabba the HUD, you kind of want him to remain in the shadows, because he's like he's so powerful but you know how did he ascend to power we don't know that you know so stuff like that so you know we'll see I'm sure they're gonna

you play the percentage game they're gonna have some turkeys eventually until they get there like I said we're gonna be there all the way you know probably the giant slug that doesn't speak English I imagine that would be a turkey that's that's a great idea

okay A Stephen King. Go ahead. I don't want to step on your toes, Brian, but I don't know if you had this one on your notes, because it's kind of breaking news. But we just lost Sunny Landham today. Yes, yes, we did. Yeah.

Yeah, he was, talk about an alpha through and through. I mean, this name was such a man. He was an old-school man's man that when he did Predator, now keep in mind that Predator had all kinds of Men's Man, right? The entire cast, pretty much. they had to hire security to protect, what was it, to protect them from him. You know, that's how crazy this guy was in real life. Really?

He was one of those Hollywood characters that don't really exist today. And the whole, you know, PC world of social media. I'm not, they say it was a crazy mother effort, you know. And so, yeah, man, that's one of the stories that came out in the commentary of Predator. And, you know, I couldn't believe it until you do some more research. Yeah, this guy had such a temper. that if somebody, you know, fuck with him, he was going to go crazy on him.

So they had Ohio security. Now, keep in mind, you had, like, Arnold. I wouldn't fuck with Arnold or even, like, Jesse's a body Ventura, you know? And somehow they had to protect those guys from him, from Sunny Lantern. So it just goes to show you what kind of a character he was. And he had the best death in that movie, too, by the way,

because he faced that motherfucker head on, you know? Yeah, it was really sad because I didn't realize how sick he was, and I didn't even know. he had like both legs amputated and was in a wheelchair. Oh wow. Yeah. I knew that either until I read it today, yeah. Yeah, it was pretty crazy.

So RIP to Sunny. Let's see. Oh, where was that? Stephen King's It. I guess it's getting an IMAX release. Okay. Will you guys be seeing it in IMAX? Probably not.

Probably not. I'll probably be seen it in the cheap seats. I don't really see the big seats. difference between iMacs and like normal shit you know like when i was a kid i feel like imax was more of a like all around the fucking room thing yeah and and and and and now imax is the screen is bigger and slightly curved which you know if i'm going to a theater anyway it's really not that much of a difference to me right yeah it's it's something i can take it or but it's not really

Yeah. Any of you guys gonna get the movie pass for $9.95 a month? Do you hear about that? You know what? I used to have one Yeah?

When it was like $40. Yeah, no, I actually I got it when it first came out when it was like 1999 or something. Yeah. And then they raised the price

to some ridiculous like you said like 30, 40 bucks. But now it's $9.95 and you can watch a movie every day for a month. that's a pretty good deal right there I'm about to go on the website

yeah good luck good luck I couldn't get I couldn't get the website to come up it crashed it crashed for a while yeah I thought they shut it down but I heard that AMC is already going to fight that so we're already having the sure from the big weeks

and I have a million that ain't going to last very long but if you could get it was there then go ahead and get it and take advantage of it because you can't beat that price point Yeah, make sense. Makes sense. Netflix wants to put everybody out of business. It seems like they want to because they're the ones that are kind of pushing this.

So, yeah, they want to kind of control the world. But then Disney came out of nobody. Well, fuck you. We're going to take our shit on our own channel. Right. You know, that's all that's the battle being there. And I guess at the end of the day with all this little battles they're having, all these suits up in their ivory tower,

the fans are the ones that are winning for now because, you know, they're going to push that market up until they're get it. Oh, yeah. And so, you know, they're going to go as cheap as they can just to get that dollar from us. So as long as they're battling it out, then, you know, we'll take advantage of all the cheap stuff they're throwing our way. True. Absolutely.

We got more Hellboy casting news. Sasha Lane, I'm not too familiar with her, has been casted as Alex Monaghan, which was, I guess, Hellboy's chick from the front. two movies. Yeah. So I haven't recognized anything she's been in, but she is a gorgeous girl, though, so easy on the eyes. And to finish off news, we got some news on the JJ Abrams, Stephen King, Hulu Show, Castle Rock.

Scott Glenn has been casted as Alan Pangborn. Oh, nice. The Sheriff. Yeah, it was a character and neatful things and the dark half. That's great casting, man. So, still no release date on this, but it is going to be

a 10-episode series on Hulu. Check it out. And the whole thing is going to be like an anthology format, right? I believe so. Dude, I love those shows, man. I'm a sucker for those old anthology horror shows. Anytime I can buy them on DVD or Blu-ray, I always pick them up.

so you like did you like monsters pedro did you ever watch that of course i bought the dvd the nine DVD said yeah it came out i love that i have a dark side monster right the 13 the only one i haven't got is because they haven't released is the nightmare an ounce series because that they've never released oh freddie's night freddie's nightmares or whatever right and the cool thing about that remember the pilot episode of that of that series is the prequel of through a nightmare down street one it tells you how he became Freddie. And they actually, Robert England actually placed Freddy.

I've never seen that before. That's crazy. Where do you find it, though? That's the problem, right? Well, if you go to the horror conventions, a lot of them sell the bootleg DVDs for like 30 bucks, you know, and I've been thinking about picking them up. I should next time, but that's the only place that I know you could find them. They have some on YouTube, but they don't have the entire series. So, yeah, I don't know why it's never gotten a proper release.

I don't know if there's rights issues involved or what, but yeah, now, don't get me wrong. I would say It's like any of these anthology, right? It's like 80% of them suck, but then you got like that 20% that's just incredibly awesome that it's worth the 80% that suck to actually go through the entire run of these shows. So same thing with Fred's Nightmare. It's like most of them suck, especially as the later years where, you know, these network started reducing the budget of these shows. And then you have like the old, you know, everything takes place in one room, you know, that these anthologies seem to kind of trap themselves into the later years. but those first few episodes are pretty good.

Yeah, don't they show them on Robert Rodriguez's channel, El Ray? I've never seen them there, but you might be right. I think they might, probably don't. I mean, don't know why to quote me on that, but I think maybe late night they show them. Not positive, though. Yeah, so we haven't had a good anthology since probably, I think Fear itself was the last one that was, like, mainstream, you know.

That was pretty good. I liked a lot of those. Yeah, they were okay. They were on network TV, and then, of course, they were okay. I thought they were pretty good, man. I mean, for network TV, you know, there's a lot of things. You're very restrictable, when you can't do it.

But some of the stories will be that original. Yeah, I'm with you, man. I like all the anthology stuff. I'll wait through the 80% bullshit to catch the good ones, you know? Yeah, exactly. And I believe that is all the news we have. all right well you uh you boys ready to take a little trip down to the trailer part uh brian what's our first new trailer to talk about this week man we are going to talk about temple starring logan huffman brandon sclerinar probably fucked that up uh natalia warner and directed by

michael barrett what did you guys think about uh temple i mean this it's simple oh no i was just gonna say i I think it looks kind of cool, man. I don't really know what it's about, and it kind of didn't have my full attention while I was watching it, but it got it pretty quick, especially towards the end of the preview. I'm interested in it. Yeah, didn't do that much for me.

What do you think, Pedro? Well, I mean, the trailer didn't really tell us much. I mean, they, some chick is in love with temples. I get that, and then I guess her boyfriend has a book, and, you know, she wants to go to that temple, And then they have the stereotypical guy that knows everything, and he goes to the end of the book, and it's like, it's not the beginning, it's the end. And there's nothing to change, right?

Right. So rather than, you know, the big warning sign, do not go. What do they do? Let's go to this temple where a creepy guy told us not to go. And so they end up going to this temple that looks like the evil dead, you know, cabin set. And then that's it. That's where the trailer, then it gets kind of mysterious from there, and the trader kind of line right there so that's pretty much what we got out of it you know people didn't do dumb things we wouldn't have horror movies

that's a shirt right there man that's a shirt you know maybe we'll have to set up a table and sell those at fright me or philip there you go we're doing it million dollar idea number four we got this one we got this one coming september 1st so pretty close um next one we're going to move on to is red Christmas starring D. Wallace, Jeff Morel, and David Collins, directed by Craig Anderson. Now you're talking. You're talking. You're doing. Yeah. Now, this one I do. Like, this one just seemed like the old school, just a good time kind of film, you know, a little bit slasher.

So, yeah, I know I'm definitely looking forward to this one. I like the look of it. It was very Christmassy with all the lights and the different rooms where it were lit differently. So it looked pretty interesting. Yeah. I like the way on the trailer they started it out by making it look like a family Christmas comedy or something like that. And then it kind of went south pretty quickly after that. I thought it looks really interesting.

Yeah, all kinds of slasher fun. Now, when does that one come out? We got a release date real soon, August 25th. Oh, man, we don't have to wait for Christmas, huh, to unwrap that present? She was telling us about that when she was on the show. She did the interview with us. Right. Yeah.

Yeah, well, that was in May. I didn't think it would come out this early. I would have thought they would wait until the holiday time. That's kind of weird. Maybe it's just limited release August 25th or something. I think I've seen a limited VOD. I think it's going to be VOD. It's got to build up scene before it hits that Christmas season.

Yeah, you guys think it'll be up there with It's a Wonderful Life. and shit like that? Yeah, probably not. And on to our final trailer, Rememory, starring Peter Dinklage, Anton Yelchen, Julia Armand,

and directed by Mark Polanski. Anton Yeltsin? Yeah, your man, your man, Brian. You know, I think this was, might be wrong here. I think this is his last movie

he did. Oh, the last one we saw was his last one. He's like Tupac. Yeah, he has a lot of... Or Elvis. Now, Pedro, you said you had a theory about this movie? Well, the thing is that, I mean, I'm just going by the previously established history of these kind of films. I'm going to go ahead and say that Peter Dinklage is the killer.

Oh, wow. And he doesn't realize it. That's right. That's saying a lot, man. Of course, I'm just playing along with the stereotype of these kind of films. Sure. The entire film is going to be based on the fact that people around him are trying to convince him that either he's the killer or that he needs help, right? And then, of course, he's all, you know, we don't get the reveal to the end.

And then they're going to have that thing where they do that flashback and then you start connecting the thoughts. Because that's the kind of vibe I got from this trailer, you know? Sure. So let's talk a little bit about the trailer. So it's so. Edible style. Yeah, so he's actually trying to solve a case about this guy. I think his name was Cody Something, you know?

And they tell him the trailer that this guy Cody something died, right? And he's trying to solve that case. And all you see him is asking him pretty much getting his door shut in his face about 10 times. You know, different people just kind of run away from him, from Peter Diction I'm talking about, or kind of, you know, confronting him aggressively. And that's pretty much the trailer. And then you're trying to find out what's really going on, you know. but it seems like it's more of a thriller, you know, than a horror film.

Mm-hmm. I would agree. Yeah, it looks pretty good, though. It looks interesting. I kind of love those little putting puzzle pieces together in movies like that. It looks cool. Yeah. But that I think I talked about is just so cliche, so I hope I'm 100% wrong because...

Hopefully you are, man. A thousand times already, you know? Yeah, but even if you're right, it's going to be decent. Now, my thing about Peter Dinklish, now, They have to establish the fact that when he goes knocking on somebody's door, it's a little person, all right? So somehow they got to do that thing where it's like, what the fuck? Because it's not every day that we're talking to little person, you know, it's kind of weird. So that in itself is going to throw, you know, it's going to be a mind fund.

Now, if it's going to be the big pink elephant in the room and they never acknowledge that, then I'm always going to be thinking that as the movie's going on. You know, it's like, ain't nobody freaking out over this, but, you know. I thought the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, I totally agree with you because I was like, okay, so maybe they're going to delve into maybe he's got like some, you know, he had some like little person issues when he was a kid. Maybe somebody was making fun of him or something like that.

Just get out of the way now. They have to go down the way within the first five minutes, you know. I mean, they have to address it, right? You can't just like pretend that he's like everybody else because he's not. Maybe that's why Anton's losing it in the trailer. Maybe he's His ass will buy him, and he's losing it for that reason. Well, we'll find out here quickly.

August 24th. We got a release date on that. Oh, wow. Yeah, right around the corner, man. We've got a lot more movies to watch. And that's our last trailer. All right, cool. We got any feedback this week, Philip?

And what are your favorite non-American horror films? Don't necessarily have to be subtitled, but, you know, shoot us and tell us, tell us what you think. What should we cover? What do you guys think? Well, I think for you guys, the main three should be Australia, because Australia has a lot of expectations to choose from. Obviously, Japan, because Japan had a whole goddamn scene in the late 90s with the whole J-horred grace. Right.

And then you have North Korea, which, or South Korea, I should say, I know. Korea, I ain't produced... That's a real horror show. So they're also producing some quality stuff. So those are the three countries that I would choose if I was, you know. I mean, you know, you're not the entire world because, I mean, even Spain has a lot of great films. But those are the three that I would go with. Cool.

Nice. I'm not mad at that at all. You're a good company, I think, with a lot of those. Yeah. Okay. So Jack Falvey said you guys need to do a special on the Italian Gaiyos. obviously we all know the brother brother

wait wait right there brother it's giallo okay that was the nerd in me raging out on you right there okay well good because I have no idea how the hell to pronounce it everything I go in Spanish obviously we all know

Argento but there are dozens of quality filmmakers in that area in that era there's only one there's Mario Baba and Darry Argento that's real about it. it. But, you know, that is a good topic. And I actually responded to that threat because I said on the Tenebrae Blu-ray, there's a great documentary, and it's a real documentary. I'm talking about it goes like an hour and a half. It's called Yellow Fever, the Rice and Fall of the Gialo

film. And it's a great piece to watch if you want to learn more about that type of genre. So that is a great subject. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's not bad. Samantha Lynn. says Molesco Island? What is that? Is that where the ring was or something? Yeah, I think so. Oh, okay. How obscure can we get? Was there more they had to do with that island?

We may have to research that. Samantha, why don't you tell us more about that? Because that's all she did was just put Muesco. It was a witty comment about the ring. There you go. Maybe her phone died as she was finishing time on time. Well, they got some movies about it, and we could definitely cover them if we wanted to.

Patrick Lear says definitely Japan. Yeah, man, I got, you know, honorary fourth member of the show. I think that's definitely one that we should venture into. I haven't watched a whole lot of those old-school, like, real Japanese horror movies, and I'd do it, you know. All right, maybe we'll do that next then. yeah why not

uh reed Wilson says new zealand i don't know how many new zealand films are out there but i mean i've heard a lot of australian ones but i'll totally tell you on new zealand has some has some great movies uh of course that what we do in the shadows

um what was the one about the girl that was uh under house arrest you guys seen that one the whole time and the plot housebound yeah housebound plot twist about three times in it yeah that's pretty good and it was kind of like a horror comedy thing that was cool. Yeah, they're good at horror comedy, it seems like, in New Zealand for some reason.

I'm down with that. It was very quirky, you know? It was different. That seems to be their vibe. It's just quirky horror. Yeah. Oh, yeah, the other one about the heavy metal band, right, Pedro? Wasn't that a New Zealand movie?

Oh, I can't think of the name of it. Devgasm? Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I believe so, yeah. All right, I think we're on to something here. Jesse Bollinger says, My vote is movies from Japan. You can do the ultraviolet types like Battle Royale or Tokyo Gore Police.

We've done Battle Royale, but I'll check out Tokyo Gore, please. Obviously, there's the ring in the other ghost type movies, even some of the crazier movies like Hell Driver or Vampire Women versus Frankenstein women. All right. At least I think that's the title of that one. Oh, boy. Close enough. Santo can take them on.

Right. There you go. Cynthia Talbot says Korean. Sean Pipes, whatever you do, don't ignore Korea. They got some classics like a tale of two sisters, Red Eye, the wailing, and countless others. Oh, man, I'm going to fuck up this name. B-E-D-E. How do you say that? Bede. B-D-D-Gamee?

Yeah. I would call them. the day. The day. That person that I'm not going to start with the pronoun says Australia. There you go. Joseph Perry, New Zealand horror comedies.

Oh, okay, there you go. All right. That's about it for listener feedback. We just were stuck on that question. So we'll definitely check that out. I think Japanese is definitely up there in the running in New Zealand also. So, yeah, you can have bad taste, you know, brain dead, you know, all kinds of lots.

Those two itself are a whole podcast right there. Yeah, no kidding. And you know what? I haven't seen either one of them. Well, maybe. Yeah, I have not seen either one of them, man. I haven't either. So I think we got a plan here, huh?

Yeah. Brain dead is known as dead alive here in the States. That film is just a great time. I mean, every year I host. a horror movie night here on my house. And I try to screen, you know, crowd-friendly horror films, you know? And so that's one of the ones that's always, has a great time.

It's a very crowd-friendly movie. People get into it. It's wacky, it's funny. But it also has a lot of gore in it, and it has a cool story. So, yeah, that's when Peter Jackson was, like, you know, making some good shit. Right.

Yeah, way pre Lord of the Rings, huh? Oh, wave, yeah, way, wave. All right, I got to check it out, man. I've heard a lot of good things about it. I wish Peter Jackson would go Like kind of like Sam Ramey did Once he, you know He did the Spider-Man films

And then Right I think he did a what was it Return to Us or something like that You know And in between there he went He went back to his roots And did like a very small

You know drag me to house A very small film Kind of taking them back To these Evil Dead Days I wish Peter Jackson Did something like that Because I know you know As a filmmaker

You kind of eventually kind of Get bogged down With the monstrosity That is the studio system And sometimes you kind of want to go back to your roots and just have fun and make a fun film or you're just having a good time. And that's the kind of films that, you know, these filmmakers make when they're younger and they have no money because you have to be creative.

So, yeah, hopefully Peter Jackson, when they gets out of his ass and just says, you know what, I'm going to go back and make a film like bad taste or like dead alive, you know, and just have a good time. Maybe it'll happen, man. You got to check that one out. I don't know, his bank account seems to, uh, is way too big for him to ever go back to that, man. But it's not like he needs the money.

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All right, cool. So that means now it is time for featured attractions. And as I said this week, we are going to celebrate the horror films

of Mexico. So we talk about the devil's backbone, the night of 1,000 cats. And, of course, who can forget, Santo versus

actually, it's not verses it's a santo in la vinganza de las muheirs vampiro so uh this was the i guess the sequel to the first one uh but hey that's cool i'm glad we watched it i i think i think i enjoyed that probably more than we would have the first one so um we'll start with the devil's backbone uh i think a lot of people know this movie it's it's a cult classic i think it's giermo del toro's favorite uh of his own films and of course he's also known for hellboy and pan's labyrinth and he wrote it and directed it

along with David Munoz and Antonio Trashoras. The Labor of Love. Yeah, this was the Labor of Love for director Giermo Del Toro and it was 16 years in development. The film came together

when Del Toro bumped into Pedro Almodovar at the 1994 Miami Film Festival where he had just shown Kronos. Almodovar told him that had just seen his film and wanted to produce his next movie. So you got Spain and Mexico meeting right there.

Germo said, of the characters in his film, all the good guys had the initial C. And I wanted to have Hacinto and Jaime share the same initial because Jaime is a bully that chooses to change, unlike his grown-up counterpart. So lots of stuff in this movie to talk about. Pedro, you're our guest. And as always, if you'd like to, man,

we'd like you to get the ball rolling, man. Well, the reason I chose this film and Night of a Thousand Cats is because I wanted to explain something that happened in Mexico, going into from the 70s all the way into Guillermo Dick Kronos in 93. Was there a cat problem? So they do say that if you go to Tijuana and you eat tacos, notice there's no cats around, and I'll just leave it back. So what ended up happening was that in the 60s. and the 50s, the 40s and so on, the Mexican government would help fund a lot of the films that were coming up. And we had what was known as La Epoca de Oro, which means the Golden Age of Mexican Cinema. And these films were, you know, you'll find a lot of them on the criterion collection and, you know, beautifully done films, and a lot of the Mexican stars would be in it.

And it was a very glamorous era in Mexico as far as filming. So what happened in the mid-May 70s was that the Mexican government stopped, funding this films and there was there was an influx of distinguished Mexican actors that came over to the United States so you saw them so Mexico was left with nothing the real actors came to the United States to work

and they had no money to make real movies so exploitation era where the producers got so desperate they started just looking at their American counterpart and see what they could copy and they had no money so that so a lot A lot of these films were third chief, and the, you know, the films itself, the plot lines were not really the best, the most coherent. So that's what gave us a night of a thousand cats.

And but what happened from there was that a lot of the newer generation or younger generation, like myself, I was born 1980, we came up in those kind of films. So we started kind of like adopting some of these actors, like the Almada brothers, which I'm going to talk about right now, or Hugo Stiglis, which became. a huge kind of excretation actor, which he's the lead actor in 9,000 cats. He became such a big expectation actor that Prince Tarantino named one of his characters after him, after Hugo Steggnes and what was, Ingrorious Bastards. So yeah, so throughout the late 70s into the 80s, Mexican film was, for lack of a better term, very B-movie, even C-movieous level. That was the best they could do, because I can say,

They had no money, and the actors would come up north of the board to make the real money, the good actors. So within that, kids from my generation, that's what they were exposed to. So to us, those are our heroes growing up, you know what I'm saying? Even though they're left out of the room in the mainstream, we kind of gravitated for those guys because that's all we got to see, you know? And what ended up happening was that Guillermo del Toro was one of a couple filmmakers who actually took the time, raised the money, and did chrono. which completely rejuvenized the Mexican cinema. And so I didn't want to choose chronos because, I mean, everybody has part. That's another legendary film.

So I went with Devil's Backholm because I thought it was a better topic of conversation. And that's really the one that brought Mexico back to the mainstream. And since around 2001, they've been able to do like real movies again, you know? So I thought, you know, Night of a Thousand Cat's and the Devil's Backmo was like a nice little bookend to kind of, you know, talk about that genre of Mexican cinema that's kind of seen like the redheaded stepchild of just all of cinema. Like if you go on the internet, you don't find anything. It's almost like Mexican cinema disappeared from... Never happened. From 1975 to 1993, there's like a blank spot right there. Like, it never existed. But that's, but that's BS because there's some goddamn good

film during that time. And there was a lot of knockoffs, but at the same time, there was some good films, you know, and again, there was a lot of actors that I'll get to a little later on that kind of became legends in Mexico, working that genre in the 80s. So, yeah, so now we have the devil's backbone, like you said. That was the Giamo del Toro has said that this labor of love. That's his most personal film. And I don't really know why, but, you know, that's how he writes. And one of the things about Mexican cinema is that, like anything, like when you guys do

the Japan face of this podcast. or the Australian, we not only have to take the films we're watching into consideration, we've got to take the culture into consideration. And so a lot of these films are based on the culture that they come from, you know? So in Mexico, and to a certain degree in Spain, kids are like, they're worship there. You do not mess with a child. In Mexico, they have something called Diades de los Niños, which means Kids Day. I think it's in April, and it's like a national holiday, and that's the day that we celebrate children.

We go out and we treat them to stuff, we take them to the fair, to the theater, whatever. It's all about the kid. That's cool. Sounds like my house every day of the week. So because the thing about Mexico is that it's a very collectivist culture. It has a hierarchy, right? It has the head of household, which is the dad, and then you work your way down, and everybody in the family has a purpose. You know, it's not an individualistic culture, like the one in the United States, where everybody's kind of main goal is to be independent.

So, yeah, so taking all that into consideration, you're going to see a lot of films that dig deep into that, the pain of a kid, you know, or a kid being the heroes of the movie, you know. And what I like about Mexican cinema is that, you know, the one of the things I like about American cinema, like American horror films, is that when you have, like, a 10-year-old or a 10-year-old or a movie, you know, and what I like a Mexican cinema is that when you have, like, a 10-year-old or a, you know, like a kid, like they just know it all. And it gets annoying, right? Because those kids, like, Sure. Kids in American movies are annoying because they're the know-it-all. They're the ones that are the time.

They're the ones that are those do that. And it's like, come on, you know. The kid evolved to that stage. You know, you see the kid kind of be a kid and the situation kind of makes them wise, you know? And that's what happened here. I mean, we see like Jaime starts off kind of like a bully a little bit. Then he kind of evolves to being kind of the quasi-hero, you know? And so, and so, uh, so, uh, so, you know,

yeah so so there's that and then you have the big bully uh which is hasinto uh and of course the the hasinto thing is there there's brother there's little brother parallels there because um again in mexico it's all about the family unit and what do a lot of families have they have like you know the older brother always punking out the younger brother and that is very frustrating so um actually that's like that's like a universal thing when you think about it but um yeah so they have all they have that going in this film as well. And, you know, the film itself, it's, it's a coming of age movie, you know, and it reminded me, it reminds me a lot of, like, like, uh, like, uh, like, stand by me, you know, those

kind of films from the 80s that, that put like a, like a young kid in a situation where he has to grow from that, and that scenario is going to make him a better person going old. So that's, um, what do you guys think? Yeah, I liked it. I mean, there's, there's a lot of symbolism in the movie. And, I mean, obviously, uh, I don't think it's a coincidence that it, it took place, like, during the tail end of a war, like there was a lot of strife going on outside, and then,

you know, you think that it's this peaceful place that this kid can escape to, and they're, they're taking him there for safety, but there's a lot of, there's a lot of shit going on in there, for sure. Well, the thing is, the thing is, one of the things that made this movie so cool, that it has so many layers going on, because, again, you know, the, the politics involved, like you're saying, are very deep, you know, and I also like how the breakdown of the infrastructure Sure, it's from the war that's going on. It comes from within.

It comes from one of their own, you know, which is Jacinto, who just greed and wants to gold. And the message that I get out of that is that sometimes the breakdown of a family comes within the family. You know, you always have the black sheep who comes in and just wants to kind of destroy everything, you know. And I think it's something we could all relate to, you know, at one point or another in our lives, is that it doesn't matter where you feel at home. sometimes the actual home could come under a threat, you know, and so that's what happens here. And then also you're talking about hidden demons because we don't really know that Hacinto killed the kid into like, you know, late in the second act, early in the third act. That's like a big revelation in the movie.

I think the kid's name is Santi, I think his name is. Yeah, it was. I didn't suspect that at all in the beginning. No, I didn't either. Well, the turn is very, obviously, you know, when Hacinto shows. shows up, you can't really read him one way or the other, and it's just like getting the line. The layers of his true motivations don't come in to like the middle of the movie, and then he

just goes overboard, you know? Yeah, and then they... You say overboard. And then they show the flashback to, you know, what happened. Yeah, there was definitely a lot of development, for sure. I mean, you know, nobody was the same character at the end of the movie that they were at the beginning. I really like the symbolism of the bomb that was...

kind of like it was a, he put his ear up to it and said, you could hear it still ticking. It was almost like I equated that tick as a ticking time bomb, you know, kind of compared with a lot of the characters that a lot of stuff was building up and also what was going on outside as well. I just thought that was kind of a nice little centerpiece there visually. Yeah, that makes sense now that makes a lot of sense now that I'm thinking of.

There's, this guy is definitely a, a writer at heart. I mean, there's so much symbolism in this in this movie. It was kind of incredible. Two is that, you know, when the doctor Casares dies, you know, who's the orphan doctor, it was pretty much the kind of like the head of household. You know, that's almost like saying, okay, now you have to grow up, you know, he's talking, I'm talking about the kids because I'm no longer here to protect. And I do love how he stands with him to the bitter end. He doesn't just, you know, he pretty much just dies because his heart. You know, he tries to kind of, like, be with them, even though he knows he's dying, you know.

And then eventually he just dies because, you know, he was injured with the, when the bomb, when he set off the explosion, you know. So the scene where the doctor is saying goodbye to a, it was his wife, right? When she dies, I think that was very heartwarming, too. That was a very powerful scene, you know, and because it lingers. Like, it's an actual scene. It's not something where it's like, oh, she's dead. And, you know, there's, like, dialogue and, you know, they're saying they're, you know, and so it's very poetic. And I thought that was another great scene in the film.

Brian, what did you think, man? Oh, this was probably out of the movies we're going to talk about my favorite one. And this is why I love doing this show because I've never seen this movie before. And this was an excuse to watch it. and it was a great movie, and I really enjoyed the development of all the characters. And Hasito, is that how you say his name? Yeah, Hasito, yeah.

That was the most satisfying death, because that guy was the biggest dick throughout the movie. I mean, he is, after this gold, he, this guy ends up killing orphans. Right. And I'm like, you're a piece of shit, and it was very satisfying. I haven't seen a movie in a while where I was very satisfied when somebody finally got what they deserved, especially when he had came across his, what was she, his fiancee or something? Yeah.

They were just goofing around, weren't they? Oh, the young girl. They just, I thought he was just screwing every female that lived inside the orphanage. Well, they had that whole conversation about they were going to go buy a farm together. So I assume that they were more than just fooling around. But that whole scene where they come across her on the road. She might have had more high and mighty ideas than he did. Yeah, the whole scene where they came across her on the road and he's just basically like, apologize and get in the truck.

And she's just like, no, I'm not scared of you. And then he stabs her. And I'm like, this guy is cold and everything he gets, he deserves. And one thing I also want to say, I love the effect on Santi, how the, um, Yeah. The blood just flowing out of his head, almost like he was, you know, still underwater. And I really, I really liked that. That was going to be my comment.

Let's talk about the fucking ghost, man. That was awesome. Yeah. They nailed that. Yeah, and this was 2001. So this was like 16 years ago. Yeah, that was creepy as shit. That was some Japanese horror stuff there.

One of the things about Hasinto, and again, the best villains, you know, you were talking about Game of Thrones earlier. I've always said this about, like, Circey, like, like, like, Like, I know that, like, her being alive because of what she's gone through, it's worse than her being dead, right? Because you could tell, you know, she lost all her kids and, you know, she's going through a lot of emotional grief. And she's projecting that into the world. And that's why she's as evil as she is. Same thing with Hesinto, because you start to understand that he's also, you know, he was also an orphan. And he also has gone through a lot of pain.

And there's that great scene where he discovers the picture with his, dad and for a moment there he becomes human again right and then he you know he tells his uh his crew of bandits which we're gonna get to in a minute because they're kind of wacky themselves you know he the way they kind of leave a mile dry with no warning was pretty funny um so yeah he uh he finds those pictures and again as a storyteller you kind of want to humanize the villain right towards the end because you know when he dies there there's you have conflict you know and i know like Breaking Bad did it with Gus as well, which was another great revelation. So, you know, the whole thing about a villain kind of being the shades of gray rather than all black.

You know, I like when they go that route because, you know, you see as he remembers his dad in that picture. And then, of course, at the end, when he dies, they show that picture again, kind of flowing around, you know, the water or whatever. So, yeah, so he also has some character development himself. Yeah, I have a quick question. The line about your prince with no kingdom, was there more to that? Because it was also written on one of the photos. I don't know if I'm saying it correctly, but it was something on the lines of that. I remember, I remember it saying that, but I was kind of thinking the same thing.

I mean, I think there's something to it. I'm sure there was. If he lingered on that, like you said, then there's something. But again, these films, like any great film, they have to be watched more than once. and you get more of them as you watch them so that was good okay okay although that guy was about as evil as they fucking come man as much as you can try to humanize him he like that was a douche nozzle here's the thing about again we're talking about differences in cultures like a film like that because here in the united states like everything's so taboo right like children dying on screen

like we just don't do that um we're well we did we did well never mind oh yeah within this genre it's more acceptable than mainstream stuff sure yeah i just can't see a mainstream film like if they read this in the united states like you'll have like 30-year-olds playing the kids you know because you can't have kids oh yeah right dying as a result of explosions and getting shot up you just can't have that it's just unacceptable here that's true there's a couple scenes where i was like wow i can't i can't believe they went there Yeah, but in Mexico and of course, like in Japan, like, you know, with Battle Royale, you know, those are kids killing each. They're not adults playing kids, you know.

But again, it's the differences in culture. And that's one of the important things about covering different countries is you've got to take that into consideration. And, of course, a lot of the symbolism, if you're not from that country or you don't have, you know, sometimes it's very hard to understand, you know. And I have a lot of that going on when I watch a lot of these Asian feelings, because a lot of it, I don't understand. understand. You know, like, like, a film like old boy. Like, I'm still, I've watched like 100 times and I'm still like, I still don't quite know what's going on. I kind of get it, but it's a cultural thing, you know, and their culture, they totally understand what's going on. And so same thing with these kind of films, you know, there's all kinds, like the whole, like in this film, like the whole religious symbolism, too, you know. I mean, Mexico is huge with religion and Catholic religion and, you know. Oh, yeah, for sure. So a lot of their films have a lot to do with that as well. You know, so we also got to take into consideration when we watch films from cultures that we're not familiar with. It's for the people that are within that culture that these films are made.

This is a great film. I mean, it's a classic. I mean, it goes without saying. 16 years in the making, you know. I mean, he put a lot of thought into it. I'm with you, man. This is one that bears watching again. I mean, I enjoyed it, but there's.

so much that I didn't totally get or that I'm like I kind of saw part of what they were trying to get across. But I think with every watching with one like this, you'll pick up more and more every time. Definitely. And he goes into so much detail with all the symbolism like you were talking about. I mean, to pick all that up, yeah, you'd have to watch it 10 times. Yeah, it's almost as deep as a Santo movie, you know? It's as, it's as like a great American novel.

You know? Absolutely. Yeah. It's a work. It's kind of a work of art. It was really good. I enjoyed it. Yeah, I think that's the last time we're going to talk on this show about any kind of symbolism.

The other two films is like, what you see. Oh, yeah. You know. All right. A cat flying 20 feet in the air. It's just a cat flying 20 feet in the air. It's from a fun era, though. They just want to exploit that, you know?

All right. You guys, you guys ready for scores or anybody else have? have anything else to say about this one? Well, I think we're ready. No, I think, I'm going to say real fast. I think a great companion fist to this one. And another one of Del Toro's personal films is Pan's Labyrinth. You know, I think...

Yes. A great movie. It's a great movie. It will hit you in the heart just as much as this one will. And it's the same thing. You know, there's a lot of dualism going on and a lot of symbolism. And so it's another film that you can watch a thousand times and get something different every time you watch it.

So, you know, I mean, I'm not a big fan of Del Toro anymore because I I didn't like Crimson's Peak at all. Oh, I liked it, man. I really liked it. Did you? It was, I know I'm in the minority, but I like it. This is probably totally off subject, but why did they cast Charlie Hunnam to play an American in a movie set in England? In England?

Good question. Well, the question should be, why do they cast him in anything, you know, because I mean, he's not a very much with Jacks. You know, he's always going to be Jacks. You'll never not be Jacks. So whenever we're watching them, we're watching Jacks trying to play another actor, another performance. It's just weird, you know? Yeah. Anyway, so, so, yeah, Pacific Rim, I didn't really care for.

Alboy II was pretty good, and, you know, Elizabeth was nice. But anyways, keep on going. Okay. Brian, what did you, what did you think about the other Deltoro movies? Like, what's your favorite? Is this your favorite now of everything you've seen? you know what i'm probably going to have to re-evaluate it now because this is this is up there this is i don't own it but this is definitely one i'm going to add to my collection so um

i think i also did mimic too if you're a kind of mimic yeah not not a big fan of that one yeah um i also like i believe in my opinion he did he did the best blade movie oh yeah yeah for sure um yeah i like the hellboy movies Crimson Peak I was not a fan of And I don't know if he directed it What was the one Don't be afraid of the dark Or

Yeah, yeah He didn't direct that he produced it But I don't like that one And he also produced Mama too Which I didn't like either Hmm You didn't like that one? I liked Mama

Yeah I didn't think I mean he's what happened with him Is that he found love with that CGI monster And he just Yeah He keeps on plugging it into every one of the films That he produces or directs or whatever And so it's like that's kind of getting annoying

Because those CGI monsters, first of all they all look the same And second of all they're not very well done So you know That's one of the critiques that I have for his latest, you know Films But I will say this I saw the trailer for The Shape of Water Which is coming out later this year

That one looks awesome That one looks like it's back to old del Toro Well maybe it's like you were talking about earlier You know Getting back to basics again Yeah yeah So that's about a girl that's weird creature from the black lagoon like monster that's somehow in a basement or in like a lab or something

and this girl's kind of down there kind of like trying to take care of them and then they kind of pawned up and shenanigans ensued from there it looks pretty good i really like the trade yeah it does it does you're in shenanigans um all right so uh for a devil's bagbone on a scale a scale of a 10 pedro what do you what do you give it man i give it a nine man wow pretty pretty high But not only because of the, as a basic film, remember, the whole point of this film is that it, it not only, it's not only a great film in itself, it also gave the entire Mexican cinema a kick in the ass, too. Because from there, you know, producers were getting financing, because people saw there was talent in Mexican filmmakers. So all of a sudden, we had an influx of money coming into the country, and filmmakers were able to reestablish the genre. You know, and that's when we got like a more despair.

which is another classic film, you know. Sure. And, you know, so we had, now we had started seeing, like, real movies again that got, like, critically acclaimed. And, you know, you could, you could argue, but I would there say that, you know, films like the devil's backbone and Gilmoto Toro have a lot to do with it. So, so that's why this is the nine on ten. The only reason I don't give it a ten, because the ten, of course, it's a perfect movie.

And it's not to the fault of the devil's backbone. It's just a perfect movie is a perfect movie. You know, that's very, I like to be very picky with that because that's very rare. That's a movie that has to like, oh my God, you know. So, so, you know, a nine is as good as it's going to get. And so that's what I give the devil's back. Yeah, nine, nine is excellent, man. Nine is excellent.

I'll give it. I'm going to give it a seven point five. I thought there were a couple of slow spots in it. It could have something to do with the fact that they were just throwing so much at me and I'd never seen it before. And I think on a second viewing, I will raise that. And I'm actually eager to check this one out again and I'm going to do so pretty soon. but for now I'll give it a good solid 7.5.

Yeah, I'm going to say eight and a half. I really, really enjoyed it. I definitely want to watch it again, mostly because the first time I watched it. It was kind of late at night, and I was nodding off a little bit. But, you know, it's all subtitled, so you got to be focused to be watching that, and it was too late to be doing that shit. I'm definitely excited to check it out again. It was creepy and just really brilliantly done.

He almost seems like an M. Knight Shaman of Mexico, right? This is his sixth sense movie. Interesting. Jamalama Ding Dong as Tarantino. Jamalama Ding Dong. There you go. I do that every time. I'm also going to go with an eight and a half.

I really enjoyed this. I enjoyed the story, the effects of Asante, and I thought everybody gave great performances. I didn't mention the actress that played Carmen. I really thought she was really good in it. The scene I was going to bring up was when you find out that she's sleeping with the one guy. The douchebag? Yeah, and she's just, you know, she can't, you know, she's giving in to, you know, her attraction for him, but at the same time, she's ashamed.

And, you know, I really got that, I really got that out of her. And again, what is that martial culture? What does it do? It likes to make women feel a little bit, you know, a little bit of shame of being promiscuous like that. So again, I can be like to the same course. Good point. Great movie, eight and a half. Cool.

All right. Sounds like everybody highly recommends devil's backbone for anyone out there who hasn't seen it yet. Definitely. So let's move on. Get a little bit more highbrow now, guys. We're going to move on to Night of 1,000 cats. I think it's also known as Blood Feast. So if you can't find it under that title, try Blood Feast.

Director Renee Cardona, Jr., also known for Guyana Colt of the Damned. And anybody's seen Zendie, the Swamp Boy? No, I've never seen that one. Okay. Well, it's out there. Maybe we can find it and review it next time. Now, now, there's a couple of films that I have seen. I'm going to go, I'm going to go through the list right away.

So I've seen a film called Tintorera, which is about a killer shark. Shark, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I read about that one. Sure. Wink. You know, what came out of, you know, a couple years prior to that. So, again, Tintaneta is about Hugo Stiglis.

He's also in this one, and he's also a playboy millionaire figure. But this was about sharks. so him and another and another cultural icon from this Serra Khan Andreas Garcia they're just going around getting women and then you know screwing them on a boat and then towards the end of the film they kind of had to deal with these sharks

and then one of them gets beaten by it becomes a whole thing the only thing about this film and then it turns into a turniter no the only reason why I stopped myself was like I don't want to spoil it like anybody's actually going to go and fucking track down Tintoreira all right

but I didn't want to go before I caught myself. But one of the things that that has been criticized about this film is that they actually, the violence on the sharks is real, you know. Okay. I've heard about this. Yes, I heard about this. Much like the cats here, that's the real abuse with the cats as well. They don't get real abuse except for that one scene.

We're supposed to launch as one cat over, you know. I don't know. Hey, listen, I've owned cats that I did that too before. He does try to drown one. Oh, that's right. He does. But there's cuts there. I noticed there was cuts.

Yeah. When he launches the cat, the camera follows the cat. There's no pressure. You can't fake that in the 702. But he does land on his feet. So there is true to the cats always landed on their feet. Oh, no. You can tell when the cats are fake.

You can definitely tell in this movie when the cats are fake. He also did a film called Survive, which is about that soccer team that got lost in the Andes Mountains, and they had a resort to capitalism. Oh, yeah, okay, okay. The Americans did a movie Call Alive, which with, I think, Ethan Hawks in it. Yeah. And I don't like that movie for the simplest fact that their facial hair never grows in the film alive.

They're always trimmed, their hair stays trimmed, and they're nice and shaved, and I'm like, you're stranded for, like, months. But anyway, I'm besides a point. Oh, boy. But in Survive, it's more of an expectation of film where it's like, it's all about. about the cannibalism, you know, whereas in reality that was only like the last couple of days where they had a resort to that. So Survive just exploits the fact that this team of survivors in the Andes Mountains had a resource to cannibalism, so it's pretty much it. Then there's one

film that's really, really good that I want to recommend that's actually scary. It's called the Bermuda Triangle. It came on in 1978. Now, this is awesome. It also stars Hugo Stigli's, Andreas Garcia, and it has a great task. And this film, it's about a cruise ship. So it's It's cast of characters. There's about 10 of them on this boat. And they go into the Bermuda Triangle, and his little girl finds a dog. She's just a doll floating in the ocean.

And she wants, you know, the captain to pick it up. And the captain, and once that dog comes on board, like shit starts going down. But the scares are really good. I think what helps it, too, is that the film is very low budget. And as we know from, you know, from watching expectation films of the 80s, like when a film is low budget,

it enhances the creepiness factor, because of the fact they didn't really have enough money to, like, you know, look real pretty, right, overly produced. So that's a really good film. It's a really scary movie and just, you know, I do recommend the Bermuda Triangle. Bermuda Triangle, okay. Annabelle shit.

That's right. And so hopefully it's on YouTube. Maybe it is on YouTube. A lot of these films are on YouTube. And then, of course, in 1972, like you said, he did Night of Thousand Cats, aka Blood Feast. And that's the one we're going to talk about right now. well you want to go first oh yeah so so this film again i wanted to do the little sandwich

between when films started getting money and and then critical acclaim and then the shit like like this film this is one of the oh come on i mean this is one of the first film we got a couple grand here what could we do with it let just fucking have a serial killer go around sleeping with women and then just feeding them to his cats you know i don't know we got all these cats in the backyard we got to do something them with them. Let's make a movie, right? The population of cats. The movie is pretty much, there's nothing to say.

It's about this guy. Oglou Spiglis, he's kind of a Playboy millionaire. He runs around in this wacky-looking helicopter that straight out in the 70s, you know, with the glass casing all around it and stuff. You only see this kind of helicopters in one era, the 70s. That's it. Yeah.

They weren't there in the 60s and they weren't there in the 80s. They were just in the 70s. fucking Bruce Lee movie. And the thing is, I guess because the rotors were getting too loud, like every time he's cruising in his chopper, they throw this weird fucking, like, temple, you know, stock music and stuff, you know? I like that music. Yeah, I do, too.

It's wacky to kind of overdub the sound of the helicopter. And pretty much what he does is he'll go around, he'll pick up a girl, sometimes they're married, he'll screw them, and then he'll feed him to his cat, you know, wash him. You know, that's how pretty much that's all he does. And so, he's never kind of, he has one nightmare. His only character development in this entire movie is one nightmare that he had when he was a kid, some cat attacked him, and then he wakes up in a cold sweat,

and that's all we get on him. That's the backstory. And then he's got like this butler or, like, you know, guy that's like evil. Uh, Drogo. Yeah, Drogo. Like, we don't know

like with him, but he's just, he's like, that's like his manservant. Right. And so he kind of helps him. And then the, and then the catchphrase of this film,

you hear it about 10 times is, the cats are hungry. Once you hear the line, you know, the bitch's gonna die. You know what I'm saying? Somebody's going down. Oh,

it's on now. That's his little cold word. He, he looks at at a grogo or whatever, he tells them, the cats are hungry. And bam, you know,

because remember, some girls he does like more than others. So he's in conflict a couple of times. He's like, wait, I don't keep this one. But then when he looks at Grobo and tells him, the cats are hungry, that's the code where she, you know, she doesn't pass a grade after all. So, you know, she's going to the cats. So, and then he has this weird fixation where he likes to keep the heads of the women in the jar,

like the governor and the walking dead and shit. So that's another thing that, you know, maybe a famous got from this, maybe he saw this film, that was his idea. I'm sure he did You're just watching a vignette of the same shit But with different women Except there's one woman That he actually does like

That Grogo decides to kill on his own That's her goal And then I think he tells Grogo I think this is the one or something He's not to touch her I forget And then Grogo's like well fuck that And then he goes and kills her with some cheers And then he brings her

He brings her back to his master Like like a dumb animal He goes steeglis because that's why he kills Grogo. That's what I'm trying to. Right. That was the end of him. Yeah.

So then he decides to play chess with Grogo. That's where it gets way. It had been up to that point. And he, he beats Grogo. He beats him. He finally. No, he beat the shit out of Grogo.

You pick that deep and play chess? Yeah. I got to know what a chest more looks like. Oh. He beats Grogel and then Grogo looks at the cats and then he takes a fucking swan dive right into the cap pit. And that's the end of Grogo. And then what ends up happening...

What ends up happening is that towards the end, he meets another woman. And all this is philosophical. It's like, life is about we were born to die. And then he has like, remember he has this big old, like wine glass for some reason, like throughout the movies? Right. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, sure. Oversight about that. But then she pours like an inch of it in there. and then that's it. Into a fishbowl. Yeah. The size of your head and you've got just like two else.

But, um, so he, he starts tying her in the pool, like, life is about being born to die and this, that or the other thing. And then, uh, he decides, fuck it, the cats are hungry. Except this time because girl goes dead, he kind of struggled with her.

And the cats find their way out of their pit and they're hungry. So he trips and they, and they attack him and they kill him. And they, That's the end of the movie. Kind of a Ramsey Bolton moment, huh? Yeah, oh, I'm sad.

That's the answer. See, this movie's influenced everything that's out right now, guys. That's right. It's a masterpiece. No, I really liked it. I really had a really fun time with this movie because I didn't know what to expect. And just some of the fucking outrageous shit that they put in here. And, I mean, it really, like the scenes when they were, when they were inside of the,

castle that he was in. I guess he inherited or something like that. It really, it reminded me of a Universal Monsters movie. And I really got a cool vibe from that. Yeah, I really enjoyed the scenes in the castle. I like the way that everything kind of looked like old school horror movie, man. And, yeah, old Gorgow or whatever his name was, that dude was just like, he stole the show, man. Every scene he was in, he was really funny, like, almost like Frankenstein's Monster or something.

something, just shambling around, just, or kind of like the guy that, uh, uh, flowers for Algeron or whatever, I can't remember the one where the, they, they had to kill the, the guy had to kill his own brother because he, he killed a little girl or something. Uh, it's, it's a classic work. I can't think of it right now, but. Okay, you're talking about a mice and men. What are you talking about? There you go, of mice and men.

Thank you. That's the one. All right. That's the one. So I got that feeling from him. He kind of reminded me of that brother, but yeah, I mean, the, the, Look, man, the chicks were really hot. You had the dancing girl by the pool.

You had the married lady that was really hot looking. Oh, she was the first one. You got to admit, you got to admit, this dude, man, he could get the ladies. And he wasn't afraid to get turned down either. If he rode that helicopter and somebody just kind of, you know, shook their head like, nah, not this time. I'm not coming with you. He just shrugged and off to the next woman, man.

That's that machismo to the two. the 11th degree, right? That's right. We're not of them. We don't have to worry about one. That's what Mexico's telling us. It's right there.

I'm telling you right now. I had a blast watch in this movie. Yeah, the married one is, she is the worst person ever. Right. You got that scene where the doctor comes over to the castle to use the phone, and she's like, that's

okay, I left my daughter home alone. I should get back. Like, you are the worst. I was like, what are you doing here? It was dumb before you had a kid left home alone. And the thing was that this four Hugo Stiglis was left off blue ball. And he's like, fuck it, the cat are still hungry. Get the doctor here.

You know? The poor doctor ended up taking her place. Let me go down into this Digi dungeon with this creepy dude that I just met. Why the fuck not? Yeah, there were so many warning signs. No, another one of those T-shirt and one-liners that he's not only on the cats hungry, he also like to tell the women, I'm going to take you someplace where only two people have ever been. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. He also used that line a few times. And then after he killed Gordo, he was like, I'm going to take you to show you someplace where one person has only seen. Yeah, but the cats were also, like I said, it was fake cats and were real cats. It was a lot of cats. There was a lot of cats. Although I thought they'd be almost a little more of a centerpiece in the movie. Like they didn't really even do anything until the very end.

When they did, though, okay. So like the beginning of the movie I felt like was really fun and really cool. And it was like, okay, it looks like a Bruce Lee movie. This is 70s vintage shit. And like, I mean, you can timestamp it all over the place. And it was building up to be a whole lot of fun. And in the middle, yeah, like you were saying, the wash, rinse, repeat with him coming in on the helicopter and getting the girl and doing the same creepy fucking thing that he keeps doing. And that kind of got old.

And maybe it was because there was like zero dialogue and then some chill. Very little dialogue. I was like, man, if I'd have been watching this at night, I'd be out right now. But then at the very, very end, and it only lasts for like two minutes. the cats finally come out and and and it is hilarious. It's fucking awesome. The cats come out and eat him. And it is the funniest thing I think I've ever seen my life.

And the only reason they eat him, quote unquote, is because he has like a scar the size of like a fingernail and somehow they sense that. And so all of the time we're supposed to be scared of cats. Like they wanted that to become a new joy. They could sense your blood and they're going to come and eat you. You know, that's how he dies. This was, this definitely belongs in the so bad that it is awesome category. I had a lot of fun. Now, Philip, let me, let me ask you something, man, and be honest.

When you watch this one, were you smoking anything? I'm just going to come around and ask you. I may have been. It just seems to us to make for that, you know? Oh, yeah. It was great with it. Brian, what did you, what did you think about this movie, man? Is this a classic?

No, but for the most part, I had fun. You know, this guy is the real most interesting man in the world. Oh, yeah. Pedophile, creep-ass motherfucker at the world. Oh, yeah. He took her daughter. Another reason why she's the worst parent ever. when she realizes that he had the daughter and brought her back,

she just kind of looked at him like, oh. In his defense, he brought her back safe and sound. He wasn't a pedophile. A little mister that just showed up as taking my daughter. You thought he made the little. To get the attention of the mother.

You think he made the little girl go up that horrible rope ladder that he kept dropping down that everybody's supposed to climb up? That's a good question. But for the most part, I thought, you know, it does fall in that. It's so, you know, it's so bad. It's good. Right. I thought for the most part, it was, you know.

There's a lot of movies during this time that fall into that category, by the way. And there's a better ones, too, that even more fun. The only reason why, another reason why I chose this film is, again, Mexican cinema was totally erased from this era. So they're very, these films are very difficult to find. I've been able to kind of make a collection on my own through game, on my YouTube. and, you know, going out to the quote-unquote black market and buying bootleg copies. I have quite the collection that way. But none of these films are ever released on DVD.

They sure are something going to be on Blu-ray. So it makes it hard to kind of tell people what to watch, you know. Sure. But, yeah, but Hugo Stiglis is the staple of this era. You see them everywhere. And the funny thing about him is that it doesn't matter how old he gets. He looks exactly the same. He always wears the glasses with the beard and the, and the,

Dora had and tries to be Mr. Cool. Sometimes he pulls it off, sometimes he does it. But yeah, that character never changes, you know. It's always the same guy just in different movies. Right. And if you have Amazon Prime, this one is free on Amazon Prime Video, by the way. Yeah, I have it. That's how I watched it.

And it was awesome. I mean, you still see all the little watermarks on the on the film. Okay. So it wasn't a perfect picture. Yeah. I mean, I guess that's how it's filmed, you know? Like I said, it's time-stamped. But I feel like there's a market for this.

I don't know why some of these production companies, like Spring Factory, you know, or Saffran. They don't take the time to kind of go down south of the border and pick a lot of these films up. I guess they haven't tested the market yet, you know, but still, I mean, I know it has a big following. You just can't find these films anywhere. Hey, maybe somebody needs to do it. Yeah? Well, they didn't care of me. you get too many other things going on huh

well i know i just don't got that kind of money you know these things are expensive to like you know restore and now these nerds they want their 4k and stuff you know it's like oh yeah could you even imagine this movie in 4k yeah what are you going to do it's old

it's it's fun the way it is man don't change the thing it's kind of kind of grind house style huh Yeah, very kind of out-sale. That's really what it is, you know. Sure. And to be fair, the United States around this time was doing the same shit with the whole, you know, 42nd, you know, the Times Square thing with the films and those B movies.

This is the same shit. Yeah, I think it was more of a sub-genre, though, here, right? Weren't you saying during this time frame, these were considered like the mainstream, you know, quote-unquote horror movies in Mexico? That's right. The grind house scene was definitely a niche. Sure. Okay. Yeah, fun movie. Guys, I loved it.

Who wants to, well, I guess, Pedro, you went first. What's your score, man? I mean, I give it like a five on ten, man. That's great. That's excellent. It's one of those films that you got to, you know, you can't just watch it. You've got to kind of psych yourself up for it. If you're not in a mood for this, you're just not going to finish it, you know,

because it's like, this is this one and also the devil's back when I was going to bring this point earlier, subtitle films, you've got to kind of. kind of like jazz yourself for these kind of films because they could be yeah and the same thing with these kind of films where like there's nothing going on you know the reason let's be real about it the reason what we saw a lot of scenes where like

nothing's happened is because they had no story you know but somehow they had a pad of the clock sure yeah sure of course so it's like okay well let's just show flying around this wacky toy helicopter for you know three minutes right with the music the music was cool the music was cool

I imagine they fit a whole lot of the budget on renting a helicopter for a day and they were like, we rented the motherfucker, we're going to use it. It might have been the same scene over and over, it's we just didn't pick up on it. I'm pretty sure it was. I think it probably was. I'm going to go higher on this one, man. I give it a six. I had a lot of fun watching this movie. All right.

Yeah, I completely agree with you. I'm going to give it a six. It was, it definitely belongs in so bad. good. It was super funny. I loved it. I'm going to meet you guys in the middle. I'm going to go five and a half. All right. This is definitely, like you said earlier, so bad it's good. And I think everybody should just check it out. Yeah. Although there was a part in the middle when I was like, oh, my God, I can't watch this anymore.

But then it picked back up. No, I do know the fact that it's like the old saying goes, you know, like Roger Cormier used to say, When the monster's dead, the movie's over. There's nothing left to say. They took that literally here because when he's dead, it's over. It's done, yeah. The movie dies, credits grow up, movies over, go home. There ain't no bullshit in at the end.

There ain't none of that shit. Yep, I agree. Movies over, you know? That's how he used to be back in the day. Yeah, she jumps in the car and books it. That's it. We don't know if she crashes down the street. We don't know if this guy has a twin brother

that has another castle up the road and she probably walked in there. We don't know any of that shit. He's dead and roll the credits. Didn't come home to find her daughter dead or anything. We don't know. All right. All right. So are you guys ready to move on to some wrestling?

Yeah. All right. So it's Santo in the Vengeance of the Vampire Women's, which is, I guess was the 1970 loosely based sequel to the other one that I found, did have subtitles directed by Federico Curiel, also known for the hooded men from hell, and Santo in the Hotel de la Muerre. Writers Jorge Garcia Besne and Fernando Osse, also known for numerous films starring Santo as well as the Blue Demon. And then the only little bit of trivia is this.

Rodolfo Guzman Huerta. more widely known as El Santo. Did I pronounce that correctly? Yeah, you got it. He's a Mexican luchador, film actor, and folk icon. El Santo, along with Blue Demon and Mil Mascaras, is one of the most famous and iconic of all Mexican luchadors, and has been referred to as one of the greatest legends in Mexican sports.

Oh, go ahead, go ahead. No, no, no, no, no. Lay the knowledge down on us, Pedro. Okay, the thing about El Sanzo, let's put this. perspective. The guy is a goddamn cultural icon and national treasure in Mexico, right? Like, I don't think I could equate that

to the United States here. Like, people always say, well, is he as big as is he equivalent of Hulk Hogan? No. Because Huck Hogan, even though some people know him, even if it's their own father of wrestling, this guy is an institution in Mexico. Everybody knows who El Santo is. You know,

whereas Hogan, it's more of a niche thing, even though he's kind of mainstream, right? So there is no equivalent in America to what Santo represents in Mexico. The guy, again, he's a national treasure over there. There's statues of them and, you know. Really? Right, yeah. And also there's a, the day that he died in 1984.

I forget the day, but that day is like celebrated. Like that was El Santo Day, you know? And of course, there's nothing to be taken too serious. Like everything is done tongue and cheek, but he's still celebrated in Mexico. Like that. It's a big deal. Like Elvis. There you guys. That's a pretty good equivalent.

There you go. Now we're starting. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. So the guy's a big deal in Mexico. Yeah, like I say, he started wrestling, and then he didn't want to do movies in the beginning. What happened was that as he was a wrestler, he wasn't well known in the 40s going into the 50s. And a comic book writer decided to just do a comic about El Santo, you know, because he used to like to go to the wrestling matches. So that's what kind of started people that weren't really into wrestling, started to know about El Santo.

Now, and then they wanted to hire him to do movies. In the beginning, he said no. Then he did a couple movies where he was in El Santo. He was just a detective. Now, it was wacky because he was a detective in the movie, but he was still wearing his mask. So you'll see him in a suit trying to solve crime and stuff, but he was wearing a mask the whole time.

I was going to ask you about that, but okay. Yeah, and so actually that became a very popular Halloween costume. Now, if you go to Halloween parties, you'll see guys wearing a Santo mask with a suit on, because he would do that, you know? So, so he said, okay, fine, I'll do a couple movies. And again, he wasn't even the main character, but he started building up steam, the steam and steam. And then one of the producers in Mexico decided to make El Santo versus the zombies. And that was his first film where he was to read. and that film blew up

and from there he kind of became the V-movie icon where he was wrestling but also making movies and you know the culture of Mexico ate it up you know if they started going to his movies and he became a big deal and I think he did something like 40-something

48 films he did total okay well let me let me ask you this Pedro the first movie the zombie movie how long after Night of the Living Dead did that come out would you say just a year or two or a couple years? Okay.

I'm just kind of curious if that was... Actually, you know what? I think that was way before. Like 62. Is it possible that this dude came up with the zombie idea first? I don't want to say that because a lot of these films were renamed years later, and that's kind of the... Ah, okay, okay, hard to say.

That's right, that's kind of the names that we've adopted since they've... Because what happened is that, a lot of these films were lost, you know, through the time, and they didn't get rediscovered so he really blew up with, like, with film like number 10 or 11 or something like that. Sure. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, my God, this guy's a draw. He's making money.

Let's go ahead and get his earlier films, repackage them, and then bring him out there. So it could be that Santo versus the zombies didn't really come. When it came out, it probably was around 69, where that was around the, you know, Night of the Living Dead craze. But even Night of the Living Dead, what the zombie thing, they didn't even popularize that.

I think, you know, like white zombie was the first one that really did that. So, you know. Yeah, that was way before, was you? Yeah. So the zombie. Yeah, but they were all like voodoo zombies before Night of the Living Dead.

That's right. That's when they were like, I'm going to eat you zombies. I'd like to go back and watch this one then and see how they were portrayed, you know? Yeah, and a lot of the Sonson movies are readily available. A lot of them are on YouTube.

I mean, not a lot of them are subtitled. but yeah so they're all out there so the thing is that for this movie we're going to talk about with the vampire women there was an American producer who decided to market Santo but he didn't call him Santo he called him Samson because Santo means Saint he didn't call him the same he called him

Samson but doesn't Samson have like long hair like why would he call him Samson and make no sense No sense at all. So this was one of the, I think this was one of only two or three. El Santo, we're going to call you a Samson. That's that at work. I'm going to put a million dollars in your bank account tomorrow if you go with the Samson.

You got to be great, kid. Yes, I see? See, see? So, anyway, so that's the story. And this was, uh, Las Mujeres Contra, the Mampiro was probably his most famous American movie, you know. So this is the one that everybody kind of. of Americans kind of watched. And then obviously later on, like

Mystery Science Theater, ripped it. And so it has a big following. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's, uh, Brian, what did you think about this movie, man? You know what? I'm not even sure if I watched the right movies, you guys. Did you watch a black and white one?

Yes. Oh, we watched the color one, man. That's cool. You watched the 60, the 1963 one then. Okay. So tell us about that. No, tell us about that. I mean, it wasn't subtitled, so I did my best to follow the story. Right.

I enjoyed Asanto in it, you know, threw in some wrestling there, you know, some vampire women. I also saw the black and white one, by the way. Okay. Okay, cool. I thought it was pretty cool. He would jump into his James Bond sports car to go, you know, go fight these vampires. women who were hideous before they got their blood fix and then they were just beautiful after. Okay.

And, uh, it's not different one. So like, like I said, it was, it was a subtitle. So I, it was kind of hard to follow what was going on. But, um, yeah, that's all I can say. That's about the extent of the movie. So pretty much the film is, it starts off with, uh, There's like this lead vampire, right? The women.

And we don't even know where she comes from. She's just there in the beginning. She shows up again in this, in this 1971. She came from the title. She's a vampire woman. Yeah. Yeah. So, so she starts going through this, like, weird spell that takes forever, by the way.

It's like a three-minute scene of her just like reciting a spell, right? Okay. And all of a sudden, she's kind of like ugly looking, but then like a cup of smoke happens. Then she's beautiful. and then she kind of goes to these coffins and then like all kinds of hot women come out of there. So those are your vampire.

Okay. Actually, the two movies were pretty close to each other. It might be a remake. So for whatever reason, and again, even though I speak Spanish, I couldn't make two sense about it myself either. I was trying to connect the thoughts to.

So what happens is that, for some reason, this vampire decides to target this one girl that's the daughter. Yeah, that's why I was getting lost. I didn't understand why she was the main focus. So, so all of a sudden this teacher, professor, whatever, he just has like, like, to El Santo.

And when he finds out that this vampire point is coming after his daughter, he just calls him. He just calls him. And it's wacky because he calls him, and he has a screen where, like, he could see El Santo. Like, I don't know if that happens. Super high-jerk. Kind of like Adam.

West Batman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very interesting. Or get smart. Yeah. So all of a sudden,

El Santo finds out. But before that, we got to watch a wrestling match. Now, I'm not talking about clips of a wrestling match. We got to watch a full match. So I'm there,

I'm there, I'm watching this match, right? I'm like, why is it still? It's like five minutes of them just wrestling. And, uh, I'm like,

okay, goddamn. Finally. And that happens twice, by the way, because later on, there's like a... He's a wrestler. But, I mean, geez, we're good for the clips. You know, we don't have to see it. We get the idea.

So, and then it happens twice because later on, there's this zombie wrestler that kills the wrestler that Santo was going to face. And then he takes... Oh, oh. And then he goes in there. Do you remember this, Brian? Because I remember that scene? That was towards... Yeah, yeah.

I don't know. I'm surprised he didn't tap up. then. I hug in there. Match we got to see for about five minutes because the zombie wrestler is trying to kill him. And Ensanso doesn't even like

his quarter tells him him, his guy trying to, and El Santo's like, yeah, but I'll take care of it. And I'm like, dude, hey, what the fuck's going on? Like, he's trying to kill you. He's not trying to work with you. And so, to his credit, he does take care of him because he's El Santo. And then, and then

towards the end, he goes to all of a sudden, this vampire queen, Resericks a bunch of El Santo looking likes. Like we're watching like Spider-Man, I mean Superman 3 or Which is the one where he fights himself? Is that 4? Superman 4? One of them where he fights himself.

That's three. The Canon film ones. So then So we have Santo fighting like evil Santos And then fucking He just burned and they just die. He literally has a torch and he just burns

their coffin and that's how they die. That's even true. he hops in his James Bond car and drives off Yeah almost Almost the same movie Philip you saw the color one Like I did I saw I didn't have time to watch the whole thing

So I skimmed through it real quick But man I actually got stuck kind of halfway through Like when he's in this In the middle of a wrestling match Which I was actually watching by the way It was too It was pretty interesting

And then he's The vampire chick is like channeling him through her mind. And it was a really interesting scene. Yeah, not in English, not subtitled. I had no idea what they were saying. But it was, it was really interesting. I got kind of stuck.

I think it was probably better than the cat movie. Yeah. I can tell you, the only difference, I think, between this one and the 63 one, is that they brought her back, the main vampire lady. They brought her back from the dead. She was basically just a husk. And they would go out to a strip. Yeah, it's like a strip club or a kind of like a go-go dancer club.

And that part was kind of neat to watch. But they would pick up a, yeah, they would pick up a chick from there, like going to the back room with her, like they're going to do a happy ending type thing. And then they'd knock her out cold and take her and the mad scientist would

take all of her fresh blood and infuse it with the, you with the old husk of the lead vampire, and that brought her back to life. And then their plan was to basically take over the world and turn everybody into a vampire. At the end, Sainto and his buddies set all the caskets on fire. Sound familiar? Yeah. But yeah, two full five to ten minute wrestling scenes in the movie.

Right. And who knows why. But it was fun. I enjoyed it. He's a wrestler. It was fun. And, hey, he's a pimp, man. Who else can walk around with no shirt on at a swimming pool wearing swim trunks and a big mask?

And every chick comes up and swoons at him. Right, Philip? Yeah, instead of being, you know, a creepy guy in a helicopter. Right. And of course, and Lucha Libre, the mask, they did become a big deal in Mexico. Like, if you're a Luchador and you have your mask, you don't take that off to nothing. Right. Well, he did?

He did it. Even until the day he died, he just, the thing they buried him with his mask. Wow. And, of course, later on, like you said, you know, a blue demon came out as a sidekick. Mill Mascarus came out later. So they really tried, you know, they found their golden goose, and they tried to get more wrestlers involved because people were actually going to watch these films. So they tried to, you know, incorporate more wrestlers because they thought that was the key, you know.

And later on, you know, they became very, they became classic movie. If you're into the horror genre, the thing about Mexico is that if you're in the horror genre, you think of Mexican horror, you think of these kind of films. Yeah, yeah, well, definitely a lot of fun. What would you guys rate it, the one you guys saw, the 63 version? I would go six on it because I know, yeah, because it did have some interesting parts. Like, you know, that's pretty good. Like, you know, I was into it and, you know, it was moving pretty good. And there's actually a lot of, like, action.

seems for it being kind of an older film too. Like, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not like it's slow. There's some creepy moments in it, too. And, um, it was a lot better than the mummy this year, though, and it was kind of the same storyline. Oh, no kidding. So, so, yeah, man, so I give it about a six on ten, yeah. Cool.

Uh, I'm gonna go a little bit higher six and a half. Oh, nice. I had fun with it, you know, I mean, like I said, I couldn't follow the story as well as I wanted to, but, I mean, you got, like, a old. school monster movie and wrestling thrown into one and you get two wrestling matches which i too actually watched all of them completely through so i'm gonna go six and a half all right cool with the 1971 i'll uh i would i would go for five uh five and a half for the movie except the uh the scenes in the in the go go dancer club i's gonna raise it up to a six philip nice uh yeah yeah

you know what, I'm going to say, I have to go six and a half because I do think that it was better than a thousand cats. All right. From the little bit that I saw of it, man, like it really, even though I didn't understand what they were saying and it was kind of hard to follow the story, it was that same time capsule feel, but probably a better movie. All right, cool. Well, I guess at this point, it was probably time to say good night so we can stay under our time. limit that we're trying to stay on on the show. We're trying to keep everything under two hours at this point. We don't want to go too far over.

But obviously, Pedro, we want to thank you for showing up, dude. You know, really appreciate you being on. What's going on with you guys now? Tell us where all we can find you. You guys are on iTunes and everything, too, aren't you? Yeah, we're on iTunes under Capefabitus Nutra Brothers. You can find us there. Again, we're on Geekdom 101.com.

you could find us there and that's pretty much it I kind of keep a low profile on social media it's not really my thing I will say this though if you're into Star Wars my partner Big D he's kind of

deep into that because he actually does that for living he covers all that stuff so yeah cool last week's episode he has a lot of spoilers for episode 8 so you know a lot of we're going to a lot of theories and also a little bit

spoilers because he's really kind of He knows people that are involved in all that stuff. So if that's your thing and you want spoilers, it was a very interesting conversation where the franchise is going, where this trilogy is going. And so definitely check that out. It was the last week's episode. A lot of Star Wars talk.

Awesome. Yeah, I know we got a lot of Star Wars fans that listen to the show. So it's okay to be a horror fan and also Star Wars and Trek. No problem. It's allowable. you can even like wrestling right Brian absolutely all right well guys

as always we want to thank all of you for listening to another episode of the horror returns we would love to hear your feedback and ideas and you can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com we're on Facebook iTunes Twitter etc etc

next week we're actually going to go back in time and do another year-end horror. This will be the third in our series. And the year this time is going to be 1971. And we're going to check out, let's scare Jessica to death. Willard, and with any luck, if we

can find it, Vampiros Lesbos. All right. Those are three good choices. Yeah, still trying to find that one. All right, so, until the horror returns again, Philip. Buenos Thank you.