The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #66: Death Note (2003) & Death Note (2017) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: February 12, 2022

We check out the original anime series as well as the Netflix movie. Thanks for listening!

victims for those of you who delight and dread who fantasize about fear who glorify go welcome you have found the place where the horror returns listeners beware this podcast contains major plot spoilers in the foulest of language Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. This is the podcast that proves the horror never ends. Each episode we seek out and review a brand new horror movie, then go back and find a classic work with similar themes. We include spoilers for the new film.

However, we're going to wait until the very end of the show to spoil the new feature, and we will let you know before we do so with a spoiler. Spoiler alert. If you don't wish to hear the spoiler, simply turn us off at that point, and we promise you won't miss a thing. We generally assume you guys, although maybe not in this case, because we're going a little different, but generally assume you guys have seen the classic film, so we'll spoil that. Hell, we'll spoil the TV show, right, guys? I imagine. It's been like, what, 10 years or something? Kind of all on top of each other. Yeah. All right, the other thing we may do from time to time is use a few four-letter words. This is a horror podcast, and horror movies tend to be R-rated, so you can pretty much expect us to be, too. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Philip.

How's it going, guys? Going pretty good. Winissimo. Philip, what's been going on down here in Texas this last week, man? We've been underwater, like the whole thing. Hurricane Harvey is hitting us pretty hard. It went away pretty fast, but, right. Man, there's a lot of people that got pretty devastated by it.

Shit happens, huh? Yeah, it does. We may be doing a show with a couple of other podcasts regarding Hurricane Harvey. And if so, if you guys are listening to this show, just keep an eye out on our regular feed if you subscribe. And if you don't, check us out on the Facebook group and we'll post everything about it. Is it hot up there, Brian, or starting to cool down? Or what's like? Winter is coming.

Already? It's getting cold. It's not, you know, there's no snow or anything, but it's getting cold and it's getting darker, quicker, and all the stuff I'm not looking forward to. It is definitely not getting cold here. I was in an attic all day today, and it was the opposite of that. Hot as shit, huh? Yeah, a little bit.

other than the weather, Brian, what's the cool of the week, man? A shitload of movies this week, but I think the one I'm going to go with is what happened to Monday. Oh, this may be a three-for, huh? I know, right? I really enjoyed this movie, and every time I, what is the actor? Numi Rapace? Yeah, Nimi Rapace. Yeah, every time I see her in a movie, I'm becoming more or more of a fan of hers.

I know she was in Rapture. What else has she been in? She was in Prometheus. Oh, she was. That's right. And she was also the original girl with the dragon tattoo movies. Nice. I believe that was her.

Yep, that was her. Yeah. Yeah, this movie wasn't what I expected. I don't know. I was interested, but. I just thought it was just going to be, you know, an average kind of action science fiction movie. And it just really, you know, I don't want to spoil it because it just came out. So really surprised me.

And there was a couple twists in there that I just wasn't expecting. And, yeah, my cool little week. What happened on Monday? I was kind of surprised how brutal it was. Yeah. Yeah. I was expecting that. I thought that, I mean, there were, let's just say, we'll just say, we'll just

suffice to say a lot of characters died that I didn't think we're going to die. Yeah. I kind of thought at the end there was going to be a certain number of characters still in the movie. Very surprised. Was that wrong? Yeah. No. It definitely worth the watch. I mean, you know, it's got its problems too. Most of them do, especially, you know, sci-fi Netflix movie with this chickasly role. Right. Um, so you got to kind of swallow your logic for some of it. But, uh, overall, man, it was a whole lot of fun. Yeah, Philip, you said that was probably going to be your cool of the week. Yeah, I was going to, I guess I'll go to another one because, you know, we had sitting in a flood.

We unfortunately had power for the most of it. So I had time to watch a few movies. I watched Hell or High Water, not really horror-related, but. That was my cool week when I saw it. Yeah, hell yeah. It was a cool movie, man. They go a little overboard on the Texas thing or they have like a C-Rourner, but they have like a about Dr. Pepper and Mr. Pibb.

Right, right. And he's like, ah, only assholes drink Mr. Pib. And then every beer that they had was a Shiner Bok. That's right. Which I'm not mad at because it's my favorite beer. But I really liked it, man. It was,

the acting was great. Freaking Jeff Bridges did awesome. Chris Pine, I didn't even realize was in it until he shed. showed up. Right. And it was, it was good. It was fun. It was, it's not a, uh, it's like a really serious crime drama, which is exactly what I was in the mood for after trying to watch the series that we just watched. We'll get to that later. You were ready for some, for something realistic. Yeah. It's like gritty. Okay, I got to, I got to watch something real for a minute.

Yeah. All right. Well, I, I think my cool of the week is probably gonna just still be what happened to Monday. It was cool. Yeah, it was really cool, man. Like I said, it just wasn't what I was expecting, which I thought was probably the coolest thing about it was how they weren't afraid to kill characters off. Yeah, I was a little worried because, you know,

it's one chick playing seven different characters. Sure. And I was like, man, that's a big role to take on. They pulled it off, man. And yeah, they did. I thought I thought she did really well. But I do have a not-so-cool of the week. Oh, yeah?

I think I'm right there with you. Man, I was so disappointed, too. You guys remember how excited I was last week for Little Evil? Oh, no. Yep. Yep. Fuck. Oh, it's so promising.

Brian, they totally, yeah, they missed the mark. Man. What do you think, Brian? I was excited about it. I was excited. I like, what is his name? Adam Scott. I like him for the most part.

and Evangeline Lily, it was a different role than I'm used to seeing her. I'm used to seeing her in like, you know, The Hobbit and Ant-Man. A little more serious stuff. Let's just say, oh, yeah. They had her like that kind of girl next door, like wholesome. But let's just say halfway through the movie, I might have pulled out my phone and started doing other things.

Oh, no, that's not a good sign. Yeah. Yeah, that happens. Man, it started, it started out promising. Wouldn't you, wouldn't you agree? It started out pretty good. Yeah. Man, what happened?

It had Tyler Levine in it, Clancy Brown. I mean, there were a lot of good character actors in it, man, that are usually really stand out in their performances. What happened to this movie? Yeah, a lot of, I don't know, it was a lot of, like you said, good character actors that you would see in other comedy movies. Right. and just nothing was funny. Nothing happened. Oh, that's sad.

Oh, no, and this same guy that directed Tucker and Dale versus evil, huh? Yeah. Oh, that was a pretty decent one, too. I expected something better than that. Yeah, they totally, since we're doing not so cool the week, can I throw in, this is not horror, but I just haven't thrown in there. The hitman's bodyguard. You didn't like that?

You didn't like it? No. Oh, man. I thought it was all right. I love the scene in the hardware store. I like Samuel L. Jackson in it. And I love Ryan Reynolds. I really do.

I've got a man crush on him. And he didn't do awesome in it. Samuel L. Jackson stole the show. Yeah. I agree. I mean, the action was decent in it. It was just the comedy. You know, you got Deadpool and you got Nick Fury in a movie.

What happened is the bill rule? Yeah, the comedy just kind of fell flat for me. Right. All right. Well, I guess that wraps it up. We got any news to talk about? First time we're going to get into. We got some True Detective Season 3 news.

Oh, that actually looks promising, considering who's attached to it. Yeah, they got a director. it's Jeremy Assaultnier, if I'm pronouncing his name, right. He is the director of Green Room, last year's Green Room with Anton Yelchin. Okay. And Blue Ruin? Yes. You've seen that one, right?

Blue Ruin? It's on Netflix. I think so. Is it like South America shit? No, not South America. No, no, no. It's a revenge movie. No, I never saw it.

No. Oh, dude. You haven't seen Blue Ruin? I remember you guys talking about it and I never saw it. Yeah, that is. that is a total recommendation right there. Yeah, that's got me pretty excited about this season three, man. Okay.

And with that news, uh, confirmed to star in it is Marshala Ali, which a lot of people might know him from, uh, he just, he just won an Oscar, right? For Moonlight. Yeah, best actor. Oh, yeah. Best supporting actor, I think. Yeah. And he was also, uh, Cottonmouth in, uh, season one of Luke Cage.

The, in the good, in the good half of Luke Cage. Yes. He was the better villain. He was the better of the villains. He was the guy in like the first part of Moonlight, right? The first like few minutes. Like supporting actor. Yeah.

No, he was in, he showed up later in some other scenes. You're right, though. I mean, he wasn't in it very much. That's for sure. He showed in some flashbacks. Yeah, so season three is looking really good so far. It can't get any worse in season two. So.

I never even saw season. I saw the first episode. I love it and tapped out. Yeah, I really love season one, and then I just didn't even attempt season two. Yeah, I'll just say it was a chore to get through season two. That's a good thing about that anthology format. You know, they can just hit the reset switch. Yeah, that helps.

Let's see. Are you guys a fan of the Housebound movie? Yes. Yeah, that's the Australian one, right? Yeah. Or New Zealand? New Zealand, I think. New Zealand, yeah.

The director, and he was also a writer, Gerald Johnstone, is touching up the script for Justice League Dark, and he may possibly direct, which I am actually a fan of Justice League Dark because you've got Swamp Thing and Constantine, all the kind of mystical characters. It's still D.C. Yeah, but they're doing a smart thing with having someone that has a history and horror directing it. so and writing it so but you're right it is DC so horror comedy that's

that's probably about what it should be right? Yeah I would say so he's obviously good at that okay creep 2 just officially got a creep right

sorry Brian didn't mean to didn't mean to interrupt man oh that's okay it's okay just got an official release date it will be on VOD October 24th, and later this year it will be on Netflix. Yeah, Creep made it to Netflix pretty quickly, didn't it, Brian? Yeah, I think it's still on Netflix. That is also, I recommend Creep.

I don't know that I ever watched it. It's really good, man. You've got two movies you need to see for homework now. I know, right? Yeah, what is the guy, Mark Duplas? Yeah, the Duplas brothers. They do so. They do a lot of.

like dark shit. They do a lot of comedy. They do a lot of sci-fi. These guys do all kinds of stuff. Okay. Okay. More Hellboy news. Penelope Mitchell, who I'm not familiar with, has been added to the cast of Hellboy. A young beautiful girl, but she is apparently going to be playing an elder witch. Okay. And also, with the Hellboy News. Ed Scream. I don't know if I'm pronouncing his name. He was Ajax, the villain, and Deadpool. Oh, okay.

After one week of joining the cast, he pulled out with, I guess there was some controversy over the character he was playing as a Japanese character. She shouldn't waste her talents on playing an old crone, man. Oh, you pulled her up.

Yeah, we're checking. Oh, yeah. Hold on, man. Now, say that Brian, is she's going to play an old crone? Yeah, if I'm reading here, she's an elder witch named Ganita. I don't know. She had drinks some youth potion or something and look like that? She might be doing a, what's her name from Game of Thrones?

Ah, okay. Melisandra? Melisandra, yeah. Yeah. Hmm. I guess we'll find out. Yep. Ed Screen, yeah.

pulled out over controversy over character he's playing as a Japanese character in the comics Oh, the whitewashing thing, huh? Yeah. Here we go with the PC stuff, Philip.

Yeah, he actually did it himself. He actually did it himself. Well, okay. I mean, if he felt like... If he felt like he wasn't good for that character, you know, any, any actor pulling out of the movie after it's already started is obviously a bad sign. Yeah.

I mean, he had to have known what was happening when he accepted the role uh the role i mean unless somebody stopped in there like hey you're not japanese maybe you shouldn't play this character yeah there was a couple things i read it didn't really seem like he knew a whole lot of the character he was playing and then after finding out finding out this news he said he didn't want to take a role that could have went to an agent actor which we'll see if they even cast an Asian actor because it looked like they were going in a totally different direction. Or he didn't want to take a role that was going to suck.

Yeah. That's probably more to the point. And I believe we are going to finish off with Stephen King is in the process of getting the rights back to all his movie properties. What? Maybe that's why everybody's bumping out the Stephen King movies and TV shows this year, huh? Oh, that makes it. A couple of them that I know he's gotten back, I think of, as of September 1st, is Kujo, Children of the Corn, and I think Fire Starter, which is... Not another Children of the Corn movie, please.

Which I think they made one, actually. But there's some kind of lawsuit going on right now. Right. So I don't even know if we'll even get to see that one. And there was supposed to be a Kujo remake that sounded really stupid. It's almost like... they made, if I read it right, I don't know if it was like fan fiction or something,

but it almost seemed like they made Kujo into some kind of military weapon or something, and it sounded really dumb. Kujo, the Chihuahua. The one that surprised me the most was Firestarter, since

Blumhouse was going to redo that one. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, he might still let him do it. He's just, if he, if his name is attached to it, then he obviously makes more money out of the same. Yep. So I guess we'll see in the coming weeks what's going to happen with these properties

because it is the year of Stephen King because he still has a bunch of stuff coming out before the end of the year. So a lot of Netflix stuff. Yeah. The Mist is not bad. I've seen that one two or three times. I haven't finished the season. Yeah, what is it?

Like a 13 episode season? Yeah, I'm not sure. I've gotten through three or four episodes though, and it's pretty good. I just, I'm forgetting about it. Yeah, listening to Kevin, he said it's a slow burn, but he said it, he's glad he's stuck in there because it really, it really picked up near the end. Mr. Mercedes is good. Yes, I'm loving. I'm loving Mr. Mercedes.

What else? We got 1922 coming out. Gerald's game. Gerald's game. Yeah, that one looks pretty good. and what was it? Castle Rock. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So, big year for Stephen King.

And that is all the news we have. Another kind of slow news week. All right, boys. You know what time that means it is? Yehaw! Where are we going, Brian? Going to the trailer part. It's a good thing I got my cowboy boots on. Shit, you need your waiting boots.

boots around the fucking trailer parks here in Houston right now. They're weatherproof. That's why I'm wearing them. There you go. Brian, what's the first new trailer to talk about this week? We are going to talk about Cold Moon, starring Christopher Lloyd, Josh Stewart, Frank Whaley, Madison Wolfe, and others directed by Griff First. Who?

Griff first, which I had to look him up. He has a lot of acting roles. And as soon as I seen his picture, the first thing I recognized him was, He was on Banshee, and the most recent movie I've seen him in was The Magnificent Seven. Really? Oh. Yeah. So I think this is a directorial debut.

It looks creepy as shit. I don't know where the old Christopher Lloyd came from, but... It had me, because there's some creepy images in here, but the scene with the girl riding the invisible bicycle was kind of stupid looking to me. I don't know. It's hard to tell, taken out of context, but they had a lot of really creepy imagery. And it looked like it was a serious, it looked like it was a pretty serious movie. And then they started in with the really creepy stuff. And I'm like, you know, I'm not mad.

Especially, I kind of want to watch it. I really like the scene of her kind of rising out of the water. Yeah. That was really good. So, yeah, I'm definitely interested. And you're right. Christopher Lloyd, he just. came out of nowhere.

And he's looking really old. Yeah. Yeah, poor guy. Because he's really old. I remember on this one, Brian, when we started watching it, I was like, what the fuck is Brian got us watching this shit for? This isn't a fucking horror movie, like a lifetime movie suspense type thing or something. But, man, once they buried her and they started saying something about the dead coming back

and that grave started shaking. And that dirt was rattling on top of the grave. I'm like, okay. Yeah. Okay, here we go. It looked real like thriller-like at first, which is cool. I can get into that. And then, yeah, and then it kind of turned into like some serious,

haunting sci-fi horror, which is- Yeah, there's a lot of questions that I want to answer. Like, she looked really fucked up in that water. Right. I don't know if she got in some kind of accident. You know, she was murdered. I don't know what happened. Yeah, arms all twisted in different directions.

Yeah. We got a release date of October 6. We'll check it out. Definitely check this one out. Next one we're going to move on to is The Crucifixion, starring Sophie Cuxin and Javier Botet, directed by Xavier Jens. Definitely be checking this one out as well.

Yeah. They threw some conjuring. It was the director of the conjuring and the producer of something. in the Conjuring series. Is that what it said? Annabel Creation, maybe? I don't know. Everybody's going to try to ride those coattails now, right, Brian?

Yeah, absolutely. Well, yeah, but if you put that in the preview, I mean, it's got my interest. You better follow through. Yeah. This looks like a decent, like, Exorcist-type, you know, got the Exorcist-type feel in there. And Sophie Cookson, the only thing I know her from is she was in The Kingsman. okay she's the the one female

I guess Kingsman that's in the movie oh okay I got you so yeah I mean like I said it's I like I like

exorcism type movies so it's definitely and Javier Botech he's in a lot of horror movies he plays a lot of because he's very tall and lanky arms

and so I definitely want to see what kind of creature he plays in this one. Yeah. And Javier Jens, he did a movie that I really enjoyed that came out a few years ago. It was called The Divide. I don't know if you guys ever checked that one. Does that sound familiar?

I don't know. Yeah, it's a, what is it? It's like some kind of bomb goes off and like these people are like barricaded themselves in a basement or something. Oh, I have seen this. Yeah, and it's very. depressing and... There's only like 10 people in the movie, right? And they form sides and create like two little societies down there?

Yeah. Fucking Lord of the Flies. Yeah, Lord of the Flies type shit. Absolutely. In a bomb shelter. Yes. I do remember that. With a bomb shelter that was owned by Michael Bean.

That's right. Hey, any kind of exorcism type movie I'm down for. I'll watch it. See, for me, that falls in the same. The same category as like sci-fi horror. And again, Desmond Jam. Just not the one with Aaron Eckhart in it last year. No, no, that was that.

Yeah, didn't stile me from watching it. Unfortunately, it's not like this Brian made you, huh? Oh, no. I don't put that on me. I was stoked about that dumb ass movie. Oh, what was it? Incarnate. That was...

Incarnate. Wow. Okay. Don't got to release that on it, but it is scheduled to come out sometime this year. All right. We'll barely check it out. Final trailer we're going to move on to is Trench 11. Okay.

This one's on you, man, because we, uh, Philip and I tried to pull this one up, and it said this video is no longer available. Yeah, it got blocked. It got pulled. Oh, okay. I think it got released before it was supposed to get released. Yeah, it sounds that way. Somebody fucked up. Uh, let's see, uh, starring Corinne Vanessa, Vanessa, I don't know, to mess up all these names.

Rossif, Sutherland, Charlie Carrick, and others. Okay. Directed by Leo Sherman. Um, Leo Sherman. Okay. Who's that? I don't know. Okay.

Uh, I guess I'll break it down real quick. It is basically kind of like a World War I movie with Germans. And they are going into the. trench and it kind of looks like there was maybe some German experiments going on and really creepy images with, I don't know, some kind of weird. It almost kind of has a thing vibe. Okay. But Lance, don't worry, it doesn't give you a void vibe.

Okay. Good to know. Yeah. I'm okay with that. German experiments, those are always creepy. Yeah. It seems like they're kind of stuck in this trench to kind of, you know, running around underground and these people are infected with, I don't know, it's just, let me think of the thing. When they kind of had like the little, kind of little tentacles coming out.

Whoa. Almost like that. So, yeah, but more like. Somebody made me the tentacles. When they first started biological warfare and it went terribly wrong. Yeah. And it had some gross moments. There was a scene where it looked like somebody was throwing up on some.

somebody's face and it looked really nasty and it had my attention. I'm definitely looking for a Trench 11. No release date set. So I don't know if that kind of goes with it being pulled off of the internet. So I will keep everyone posted. I am definitely looking forward to it. Okay. And anything that gives me a thing vibe, I'm going to check it out, definitely.

So. Sounds like a plan. That is our last trailer. Yep, that is our last trailer. All right. Yeah, it sounds like three good ones this week, guys. Jack Fowley, the 4th, our friend of the show, he sent us an email this week.

He says, The Horror Returns is a show for her horror nerds by horror nerds. Phil, Brian, and Lance's love of the genre, but willingness to check out almost any film you throw at them gives their show a nice change of pace from the usual humdrum and depressing world of genre podcasting. In addition to the boy's presence on social media, they also attend several horror conventions, which we're in the works for some new ones, by the way, throughout the year that some of us wouldn't be able to get to, interviewing actors, actresses, and filmmakers from many different walks of life. I heartily endorse the horror returns as a podcast with grit, ball,

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Brian what's that Boba Dick thing all about man yeah something something they say over there in a binge cast yeah if you haven't checked out the binge cast you definitely got to do that definitely they have

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Friend of the show? Patrick Lear. Hey guys, I was listening to the latest installment of the show, and since the last couple of shows have been specials, I wanted to watch some of these shows, and the thought occurred to me. I don't know where to find some of the shows. So my suggestion is this. When reviewing shows that are not in theaters, let us know where you are watching them, via Netflix, rental, or other streaming service. I know sometimes you will mention Netflix or whatever, but just thought the extra added touch helps us the listeners follow along.

As always, looking forward to more shows and keep them coming. Cool. That was a great idea. It's a really great idea. Maybe we should even put those in the show notes. Yeah, except... When we post the podcast. I be on to see sometimes.

I'm the schmuck that usually pays for everything. Hey, but still, look, Cody is a totally legit service, and they have no responsibility for whose dreams on their stuff. Okay. I'm just a media platform. I might have dipped my toes in the water here and there. Tows in the water, ass in the sand, huh? Cody's a hell of a thing, man.

And what is it? Covenant, I think, is the new one. Covenant? Like alien covenant? Yeah. The movie that I liked and everybody else hated? Yeah. Well, that one in Valerian.

Yeah. I love Balaire. I like those movies. Yeah. All right. I just didn't like Daydine. Here we go again. I'm not.

Yeah. Yeah. I'll go with that. I think they could have made a better choice again. Well, one thing's for sure. I know we covered a couple of movies and Cool of the Week, and we went out of our way to say they were on Netflix. Blue Ruin, which wasn't even the cool of the week,

but the cool of the week like six months ago. So, yeah, Blue Ruin is definitely on Netflix or was the last time I checked. What happened to Monday is a new Netflix thing. Yeah, what happened to Monday was a Netflix movie. Little Evil, in case you're interested. Don't be. I don't recommend it.

The first third is really, it looked promising. Yeah? But it took a turn when they went to a water park, and then the movie got really sappy and really shitty. Is it like Little Nicky? Because I wish. I like Little Nick. I'd rather watch Little Nicky.

Wow. I own Little Nicky. I've seen that movie about a dozen times. No, no, no, no. It can't hold Little Nicky's jockstrap. Yeah, another good way, I totally recommend Shutter. It's a subscription for horror movies. Oh, yeah.

I've heard of them. It is reasonably priced. It is under $5 a month, or you can pay for a year and it'll be under $50 for the year. And they have a lot of shit on there. And it's a horror movie specialty, right? Yes. I totally recommend it except for one movie on there, which it might be, it might

have beat the bye-bye man, which I spoke on it before. Cuso. Cuso might have dethrone the bye-bye man. We will see at the end of the year. I kind of almost want to watch it. I have to see it now. Just because. I have to subscribe to Shutter just to see that now.

Made it so bad. Yeah, I got to, well, I know they do like a two-week free trial for Shutter. Maybe I'll get that and just watch Cuso and see how you like it. Why not? Yeah. Test the waters. We'll fire up a couple of blunts. Yes.

Santos didn't like it either. Oh, I know. Yeah. He said Shutter should be a shantz. to themselves for even putting it on there. Ouch. That's that, I can't, I got to see it now. We're not doing our duty as podcast host.

It looks so promising to. We should review this movie. I think we should. I think we should totally review this. I think Brian already has. We're doing it again. He already said it beat at the bye-bye man. That'll be our YouTube thing.

Oh, no. We'll watch Shudder and just make fun of it the whole time. Aye, aye, y'ay. Yeah, I. Like a mystery science theater 3,000 thing. Oh, man. Yeah, I, uh, my go-to, guys, at the end of the day, if I can't find it anywhere else, I just, I go to iTunes, actually. You'd be, you'd be surprised.

Yeah, they have a lot of good stuff on there. Absolutely, dude. It's like usually $2.99 or $3.99 rentals at the most. Amazon, too. Yeah, see, I don't have Amazon. They have a bunch of stuff. If you got Amazon Prime, you get a bunch of it for free. For free.

Yeah. Okay. And if you don't have Amazon Prime, what the fuck are you doing? I'm telling you. Worth it. All right. Well, I know our two featured, our featured attractions tonight are both available on Netflix. We're not even getting paid by Amazon.

Amazon, bitches. Or Netflix. Or any of these. I know. We should be. I think we have, if I'm not mistaken, there were a couple of polls that you put out, Brian, on Facebook. Yeah. I'm looking at one right now.

I think I feel like a total ass. I didn't even bring it up. We lost Toby Hooper in the past week. Oh, no. And I should have let off the show with that. And RIP to Toby Hooper. He's a legend, and he created a classic in Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Yeah.

Yes. So I had posted a poll of what people thought. What was your favorite horror movie? And overwhelmingly, it was, of course, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And there was a couple. Salem's lot was voted on. Kevin voted for Texas Chase All Masker Part 2. Okay.

Poulter guys only got one vote. I think that's mostly because of it. You voted for the Fun House. Ah, yeah, yeah, that's right. The Dean Coons novel. Actually, I think he wrote it after the movie, and he didn't even write it as Dean Coons. I think he wrote it as a different, like a pseudonym or something.

Yeah. But yeah, I love the Fun House. Have you guys seen that? It's been a while. Yeah, it's because I don't necessarily remember it. Sort of a Frankenstein monster type creature that lives in the Fun House. Okay. And these little smart-ass, wise-ass high school kids sneak into the Fun House after the Carnival closes.

And, oh, let's go in here and fucking smoke weed and fuck and everything, you know. And fucking monster starts coming after him. Sounds like the beginning to a good horror movie. Hey, we do have one piece of feedback before you do the other poll. Okay. First of all, Lars from Denmark is at a heavy metal concert all weekend. Oh, okay, well, that makes more sense. Okay, so Art Callie, I don't know.

Well, no, what did Lars say? Okay, so art was the, oh, all right, well, bam. Lars just fucking randomly. randomly posted. Satan, Satan, Satan, Satan. Yes, I'm drunk. I thought it was in response to the picture, but no, then Art Callie in the comments posted the picture of Satan from Tenacious D.

Right. That's right. I am complete. Fuck. This guy, man. What was it? What was the other poll, Brian? Yeah, I was going to include in news, but it is mostly a rumor about Leonardo DiCaprio playing the Joker. Yes, sir.

And Martin Scorsese produced Joker movie. And I put a poll on will it happen or will it not happen? And overwhelmingly, it will not happen. Nobody wants this to happen. I don't know if anybody wants it to happen. I think it definitely... Nobody believes in that. I think it definitely won't. But Art Kelly had a comment on that one too.

He says he's not a big fan of big-name actors taking roles like these. It takes me out of the movie a little bit as opposed to a newer, lesser-known actor that I can buy all in and just try and go with the flow. and you know I don't have a problem with that at all I think it completely makes sense yeah me personally

the one thing that it might happen that will make it happen is his connection with Martin Scorsese yeah well yeah and that makes sense too but I mean I feel like I've watched something else

that had a lot of big name actors in it recently and I can't think of what it was or even what genre it was at this point. But I felt like all the big name actors that just popped up out of nowhere kind of took me out of the movie. Right. Because it was like they were just putting big name people in there to be big name people.

Yeah. Instead of, you know, having them actually play the fucking role that they're supposed to play. But I voted that it's not going to happen just for the fact. I don't, I don't think he's into doing these big franchises. Yeah. He doesn't have to. Yeah.

I mean, he couldn't get any role he wanted. And, I mean, there was a rumor like years ago when Nolan was doing the, the Dark Night trilogy, that he was going to play one of the villains in that one. And it didn't happen. Right. And I just, I just don't think he's interested. I mean, I could be wrong. You know, they can announce, they can announce it tomorrow that he is the Joker. He signed the contract.

But I personally, I don't think it's happening. I don't think he cares about doing big franchises. I mean, has he even, go ahead. I don't know if it's worth asking. How do you think he would do as the Joker? I mean, I don't think I'd be mad at it. No, I mean, at the worst, I think he would be fine. I don't think he would be horrible, but.

It may as legal gets into it sometimes, though. I think he could pull it off if he really wanted to. Oh, man. I don't, you know, I don't. I don't really want to think about it. I mean, I just see him in his, like, craziness where, you know, he gets attacked by a bear and all that shit. Right. And the other thing.

That kind of craziness. I mean, he's a great actor. But why fuck up his career by making him do this bullshit? And the other thing, he's starting to look his age now. Yeah. And this is a Joker origin story. Oh. Oh.

Okay. Yeah. That probably did mark. Wouldn't make a lot of sense. Yeah. Hey, Jack Nicholson was not exactly young when he did that one. Yeah, but it wasn't an origin story. Yeah, that's true, too.

But look at, well, no, it was. It wasn't an origin story. You're right. He fell in the vat of acid and everything. I stand corrected. Definitely stand corrected. This kid that played light and death note would probably be more of the age for the joke of origin, wouldn't you think? Yeah, I don't know.

All right, let's move on. We'll get to that guy. That guy. Who is this guy? All right, any more feedback, or is that pretty much it, Phil? I think that's it for now. we had a lot more. Did we ever cover, didn't Marcus Wilterner give us like a pretty big

review of a movie he saw or something like that? I was thinking so if we missed you, we'll catch you next time, Marcus. Yes, sir. Here's the problem. We didn't get to make show notes this week, so we're kind of winging it because of the flood and everything. I think a lot of us haven't been to that office. A lot of shit going on.

A lot of shit going on. So you guys are ready to move on to the featured attractions? Let's do it. Yeah. All right. So this week we're checking out the new, here at Netflix again. There you go, Patrick. Death Note.

They're on top of it. And the full 37 episode, for those of us, he stuck with it. Speak for your fucking self. Full 37 episode. The 37 episode. I quit.

Japanese animation series, Death Note, which, of course, inspired the movie. As far as who did the Japanese animation version, I'm not even going to go through the names, because most of our listeners probably aren't going to go check out a lot of anime.

I know my anime career is done after this. But what's interesting is that the director of the Netflix movie is Adam Wingard. And our listeners know Adam Wingard very, very well. Mumblecore. Yeah, Mumblecore. You get Mumblecore. You got it, man. But one of the movies that our listeners will know him for, of course, is the Blair Witch,

The New Blair Witch Project. Another movie that I'm kind of hoping that we do it as the movie with Mother. Brian, I don't know what you think about doing. Maybe The Guest. Have you seen The Guest? I love the guest. You know, I'm glad

we're getting on this subject because the only, when I watched the trailer and I just looked at the recent poster for Mother, I get a rosemary baby vibe. But, you know, Lismz already know, we covered that already. Right.

Been there, done that. Yeah, the guest, I can see that working because of the guest. Yeah. And they come over, but. And the unwanted guests that show up at Mother's House, right? Yes. Can we make it official? I'm totally down with that.

That's just an excuse for me to watch the guest again. Awesome. All right. So, yeah, I think our listeners know, Adam. Oh, and you're next, and we've reviewed that one before as well. Yes, great movie. Another Adam Wingard. And, of course, he's directed a number of VHS episodes and stuff like that.

So definitely one of the up-and-coming names in horror. I was expecting a lot out of this movie. I guess start with the animated series, Brian. What did you think, man? Have you ever seen anime before? The only series that I probably watched, completely through was when I was a kid was a series called Robotech.

Okay, I've heard of that. Yeah, but I am not an anime fan. My son, actually, I was going to have my son on this episode, but he is actually gone for the weekend. Oh, man, too bad. Yeah, he is full on into anime.

You said your anime career is over. My anime career was over before he even got started, because this was very hard for me to get through this seat. Don't get me wrong. The concept of this show is really interesting. Yes, I love the concept.

Yeah. I guess we can bounce back and forth from the movie. Yeah, absolutely. As long as we save the spoilers for the end, right? At least the movie spoilers. Yeah, that's going to be hard.

Well, look, the way that the animated series ended was so fucking off the rails. from what happened in the two-hour movie. You know what I mean? There's no way anybody's going to assess what happens at the end of the Netflix movie based on anything that happens on any of the twist and turns of the animated series. Wouldn't you agree?

True, true. Okay. Like I said, the whole concept of the death note, it's very interesting that you can write someone's name. You have to have the face and the name. right and and you can also write how they die right that's what will happen to them if you don't write how they die they'll just have a heart attack within 40 seconds yes although they did make a few differences in the film from the rules of the animated yes um that was uh that was a that was one of the things i liked about the anime was um they would constantly give you the rules

like kind of like refreshing your memory on you know they meant there was a lot of shit they kind of mention like over and over throughout the show but yeah I was going to say I constantly give you updates on every bit of information in the anime but there was times where I didn't

remember what the rules were and you know they would pop up every now and then and I kind of like that in the movie in the anime right well I think that's part of the reason they had so many rules you know what I mean because they were talking about they had like 90 something rules in the movie,

but obviously they didn't have time to go over all of them. Our main character, Light Yagami, is that his name? Yeah, something like that. He is a fucking psycho in this movie. In the movie or in the anime? I mean, in the anime. Yeah. See, I'm trying to get my thoughts here.

In the anime, he is so power hungry. and just, you know, he's trying to, he claims he's doing it for justice, but he is just so power hungry and trying to be a new god and change the world as he sees fit. And it's kind of a difference between what was the main character, L. I really enjoyed L. Oh, the guy who was after light. Yeah, because if you really look at them, they're really similar. Yeah, well, that was the whole idea. Yeah, there are just, you know, polar opposites of what they're trying to accomplish. Kind of like that way they're...

Yeah, but the way they go about everything is very similar. And he was probably... Go ahead. He's a lot more of a badass in the anime. You know what I mean? Like, he's got this confidence and he's like, I'm doing this and nobody's going to stop me. and in the and he's not necessarily a good guy

which I kind of like kind of an anti-hero right but in the movie yeah he's definitely more of more of a good guy he's trying to do the right thing more passive

yeah but it's less conky it almost gives you a like Columbine kind of vibe to it oh right what no I didn't get that I mean maybe not that but like at the very at the very at the very beginning of it, I was like, oh, I don't know that I like where this movie's going.

Oh, wow. That'll make you a little uncomfortable, man. It was, it was, right? No, I thought they, uh, they kind of took the, oh man, it's, it gets so, so fucking convoluted because the animated show has so many twist and turns that make no fucking sense whatsoever. And my God, dude, I thought I read a lot of exposition when I read books. I've read books.

I've read Stephen King books that have less description and exposition and talking than this fucking animated series. Jesus Christ, man. They fucking explain what they're going to do in three 20-minute episodes. They take three 20-minute episodes

to explain what they're going to do, three 20-minute episodes to explain what they're doing while they're doing it, and then they take four 20-minute episodes explaining in great detail what they just did. Yeah. It's funny.

It's not even a full 20 minutes because you have to have a recap every episode. Previously on Def Note. In that goddamn song, they were so sick of that. The music was so bad. The theme song does get better, though. I will say, because they changed the theme song by episode 20 or something like that. Why did that happen? It was like, was that the season?

But it all said one season in Netflix. I got that. I didn't get that far. I kind of binge this within like a few days. So it's just all like just boggled in my mind. Especially like the end was just so confusing on what was going on. Well, look, here's the thing too with the character in the Netflix movie. He incorporated some of the characters of light. I'm sorry, some of the characteristics of light and some of the.

characteristics of the of the second of the third kira because you had the second kira that was misa misa so that's where it actually kind of got interesting time out we're doing we're doing uh we're gonna go ahead and and spoil the shit out of this one yeah oh shit all right all right i don't want to give like end time spoilers until the very end for the movie because a lot of people are probably going to watch the netflix movie okay well because one of my questions because i didn't make it through the whole show man like i i i watched like ten 15 episodes of it and Which is a lot.

And yeah, crashed out. To plow through. And then I tried to watch it again the next day and they started up with that same shit where they're like, let me tell you this one sentence sting and I'm going to take 20 fucking minutes to say it. And I was like, all right, I can't do this anymore. You went. Yeah. I'm tapping out. I'm tapping out.

It's like, dude, you don't. And you can't. Let's play a game called. jump to fucking conclusion Jesus Christ Almighty you are not there's no

deductive reasoning behind that a fly went up his ass so obviously he's the bad guy right I mean

what the fuck there's actually it's too perfect there's actually a seven in my mind there's actually a seven percent chance

that you might be the real Kira therefore you are Kira therefore I'm putting you in prison for 48 weeks right It's like, come on.

Yeah, it got a little out of control for me. So one of the questions I had was, was, how did it end? Because I wasn't going to sit there. I apologize, hold on, disclaimer. Disclaimer, because I think a lot of our list, maybe not a lot, but I'll bet some of our listeners are anime fans. Well, listen. Disclamer, just because it wasn't for us, doesn't mean it's not forever. Yeah, no, that's true.

But listen, I used to really get into anime, man. I liked anime, you know, back in the fucking day before Pokemon. came along. Like, Grandizer and fucking Voltron and shit like that was awesome. Vampire Hunter D.

Akira. Akira. There's some classics, right? Those are some good anime shit. This was like post fucking Pokemon and Yu-Gi-o and shit.

And I kind of, it felt like that a little bit. You know what I mean? And I don't know. Maybe I'm just a little a little older than that. demographic. And I'm the young one. Well, no, Brian's the young one.

But, uh, but, uh, but yeah, I, I, I didn't, I didn't get it, man. It was, it was too much. Brian, what did it, what did you think, Brian? Were, did it ever, was there a jump the shark moment or were you just kind of like plotting through? You know, uh, I think I probably made the mistake. I watched the movie first. I did too. Oh, okay. Yeah. And then when I started watching the show. I think my mind kind of, my brain just turned off. As soon as I got everything that I, that I seen in the movie, or

at least, you know, variations of what I've seen in a movie, it just, it just, it got hard to keep, keep up because it was just too much going on. It was just too, like you said, it was just too much explanation on everything. And then,

and then it gets way overly complicated. Like, they should have made it a two-hour movie. You're right. And it would have been, fine. And there might have been... 20 minute episodes would have been perfect. Yeah.

There might have been more than 90-something rules because it... I mean, there was... Sometimes, like I said before, it was good with the explanation of the rules. He said, fucking won six times. Yes. But, I mean, overall, like I said,

I like the idea of the death note. I thought the... What was it? The Shimi Gami? The death god. Yeah. He looked pretty cool, man. Yeah, I like that.

I kind of like the look of all of them. I love the live action one, Willem Defoe. Right. He stole the movie. Okay, so I like the anime one, even though he seemed kind of like a pet, which is where I was going with the Yu-Gi-O Pokemon chip. Right. My pet demon. Yeah. But he was kind of cool until he started talking and he was kind of dumb, you know?

Let me explain the same rule to you six times. Right. Well, you know, Light, a Shinigami loves apples. we really love apples I would do anything for an apple right I got it you want to fucking apple

okay chill the fuck out but did I tell you we love apples like I don't think you understand a shinnigami always loves apples but and okay so in the actual movie though like even just the when you click on

death note the first screen that pops up is a picture of that monster and this movie looks creepy as fuck from the beginning of it. They did a kick-ass job of that one. What'd you think, Brian? Until you start watching it, though, and then it's not scary.

Are we in the movie now? Yeah, yeah. What did you think about the creature effects in the movie? We're doing both. Okay. This is probably going to piss people off, but I enjoyed the movie way more than I enjoyed the show. I did, too. I...

Well, spoiler alert, that makes three of us. Yeah. I enjoyed the look of the Shinigami I don't even know if I'm saying that right But Yeah, Shinigami Yeah, I enjoyed the look of them

I don't think they referred to him As that in the movie Ryuk Yeah, I thought he was spot on For a live action movie Yeah I mean, you know I've gotten a lot of opinions on it

Because this movie is being shit on completely Yes, it is Yeah, more people tend to like the anime. Yeah. Then the movie for some of them. I'm not sure I like the main character in it, but I thought they did great with Rute.

I, I, uh, because I watched the movie before I watched the anime, I was thinking, why is this guy talking to him like it's no fucking big deal? Because I felt like it should have been scarier. Now, he kind of scared the shit out of him when he was in detention that he first met him. Yeah. That was a cool scene, actually. Yeah, but he got over it really quickly. He got over, yeah, super quickly.

Right. Well, it had a very anime style to it. Where the kid went from one emotion to the next, just real quick. Guys, admit it. This actor could be the next Dane Dahan, okay? Give credit where credits do, boys. I don't even know this guy's name. A little fucking douchebag.

Nat Wolf. What else has Nat Wolf been in? Any idea? Probably not a whole lot. He's hoping he's a Disney kid. He's hoping he'll be in Death Note, too. Ooh, that's what he's hoping for. Probably won't happen.

Oh, the fault in our stars. It'll be the exact same movie as the first. The fault in our stars, guys. Oh, yes. No, that was the chick with cancer, right? Yeah, he wasn't the cancer boy, though, right? No, he was the one that was in love with her, right? You know what, dude?

I have no fucking idea, man. I hate this shit. And look at this. Philip, you ought to enjoy this hood, brother. Simper five. Simper five. He's got to, oh wait, you are Army. I'm not a Marine.

All my buddies are Marines, though. They give me shit all the time. But overall, the thing I appreciate about the movie is that they took everything that I, that I was interested in the show. In the cartoon. And they put it down into a two-hour movie. Yeah. Because that's all it took to get through the goddamn story. Yeah.

Yep, I agree. 37 episodes. And the portrayal of. I also liked him in this one. I did too. The actor is... He was a little flat for me, but... Yeah?

Well, let me put it to you this way. He channeled that L character from the cartoon perfectly. Yeah. I think he... Whoever this actor is, I really think he did watch the anime, Brian. Oh, he's a big anime fan. But what I will say they kind of fucked up is, like, if you don't watch the anime, then you don't. they don't explain all his little quirks in the movie.

You just think he's a really fucking weird dude. Yeah, true. But I got it. I got it. Well, you guys saw this movie first, right? Yeah, and I had no fucking idea what to deal with the candy. But then when you watch the anime, going back to the show, like, he says the reason why he sits that way is because if he sits regular, his reasoning ability drops 40%. And his mind, his mind, why. His brain works so much at a higher rate than everybody else. That's why he eats so much sweets and candy.

And you didn't get none of that in the movie. No. In the movie, they just said he was a just like some sort of super detective that has been trained from birth or something. Yeah, it was raised since he was an orphan to be part of this group that are super detectives. and other than that, you didn't get no, like, you just thought he was a really weird dude that just never sat down and eats ice cream and... But he gave off... Snoop and straight out of the Compton. Was he?

Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. He was the other dude and get out. The one that told him to get out. Yeah. That's right. And I don't, I'm a big fan of Atlanta with Donald Glover.

Yeah. He is super funny in that show. Yeah. He's also on that show. I thought he did an okay job. He was the one that was, he was the one to me that really screamed anime, because everything...

Yeah, big time. You can tell he's a big time anime. Every scene he was in looked like it was something straight out of an anime, and he pulled it off. You know what I mean? From, like, the way that he was running, and from the way that he sat, and all that stuff looked very legit anime.

Like, they could have just drawn it. picture of what was on the screen and put it in the anime, you know? Yeah, he was channeling L from the, from the anime series. Yeah. Big time. Yeah, and then the other, the other actor that I thought did a really good job was, was obviously the, you know, the demon himself. Yeah.

Didn't you guys think that was, that was pretty spot on? Yeah. Will him DeFoe? Yeah, he sounded just like him with a laugh and everything. The white Samuel O. Jackson. He kind of does, man. What is he? He's the white Samuel O. Jackson.

What, you mean he'll take any role? That dude's in everything. Yeah, he was in, uh, what is it? What happened on Monday? I didn't even know he was in that movie before I watched it. Oh, yeah. Ah, yeah. I thought he did great.

That was my issue with light in the, in the movie, as opposed to the anime, was that he was kind of, I mean, I guess he was trying to be more of a good guy and more relatable. And I'm sure that that's why they did that. but I actually kind of liked light better in the anime just because he was a little more goal driven, you know what I mean? Like he was trying to do something. There was nobody that was going to stop him from doing that.

And confidence, I guess. I agree. He was in the movie. He was a bit of a pussy. Yeah, a little bit. All right. So this was, as I was watching all,

37 episodes of the anime because I spread him out over a couple of weeks so this was kind of how it worked for me like at first I was kind of like okay here we go I'm going to give this a shot let's see what it's like when they got to the part where they they they okay I think early on he

he started becoming a little bit evil where he killed the one agent that was following on the train and everything and he had a girlfriend and then he was willing to kill the girlfriend and then I think that's after that is kind of like when he met they said okay there's a second, Kira, and he met Misa Misa.

Oh, she was fucking annoying. Well, she was, but she, I, you know what? The minute they introduced her in that episode, I was actually interested. I was kind of, oh, man, this is, this is kind of cool. Again, people are probably going to get mad, but I prefer the, what was her name,

Mia Sutton in the movie. Okay. Because she was, she was, it's like they, they took the character of, um, light, and they split it into two characters for the movie. Oh, yeah. Oh, that kind of makes sense.

Makes perfect sense. Yeah, she was sort of a bitch, huh? Yeah, she was definitely, she was really into that death note. She was the, well, not at first though. A mean girl. And I think that she pulled it off, man. I've known chicks like her. I've dated chicks like her.

And she, that power, that power hungry, I want to be a god I'll kill anybody that I need to or want to that was that was her character in the movie but in the show that was more light and I just felt I just kind of felt like they took that part of Light's character and they just made that

the Mia character in this movie and I actually I liked her better than the chick in the anime because she was really fucking annoying. Okay I agree, man. That was pretty cool what they did with her character in the movie. Especially now that you brought some insight to it. That was cool.

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, Brian. And as the show goes, she just, I don't know, it was making my brain tune out. Just the more she talked and just the more. But I did think the one thing is pretty cool. I'll do anything for you. I like the, I like the sheenigami eyes that she got. That was pretty fucking cool. but it kind of sucked me eyes man but it kind of sucked you you have to give up half your

your life or something or your lifespan that was or something how can it be or something at this point that's one of those things that they went over 27 times they were quite explicit on the rules brian i'm like i like i said it you spread it yours out in a couple weeks i spread it mine out in like a couple days and right it was it was a lot lot to take in. I'm sure. Yeah, I, like I said, at that point, it kind of grabbed me. I was kind of like, okay, this is getting interesting. But I think at the point where he killed L, and then you started getting this near guy and these other, you know, guys that were, you know, following L. Delete, delete, delete, delete. Oh my God, dude. No, it was a mess. It was a huge fucking mess. The only thing I

could say about it that somewhat positive is toward the end, like in the very last episode. They at least cleaned up the story very neatly, Brian, wouldn't you agree? Yeah, I just like that it ended. It was like sweet relief. All right, so, uh, can we, can we do spoilers now or do we need to do ratings?

You guys want to do an alert? Let's, you want to just give our ratings and then go into spoilers? Oh, yeah, I guess we need to give ratings, don't we? Oh, yeah. I guess we can do give our ratings for both. All right. I'll go first. The show, like, it was too much explanation.

It was just too, I don't know. Maybe it was because it was 37 episodes for one season. I know there are only 20 minutes, but the dialogue just made it seem like they were like hour long episodes. And for the show, I'll probably, I'll give it a five. Wow, you are fucking nice, dude. Yeah, that's pretty good. I mean, for someone that's, maybe it's because I'm not in the anime, it may be great. If we were just be patient and follow more anime, we might love it.

Yeah, my son is 10 episodes in and he just kept like running into my room and like going over each episode. And I'm like, you were too excited about this show. and I told him, if you're this excited about the show, you're probably not going to like the movie. Right. Probably not. Most of the people in our Facebook group did not like the movie, but did like the show.

The movie, like I said, it took everything that I liked and condensed it into a two-hour movie. I didn't like the light character in this movie, but I liked everybody else's portrayal. Maybe not the father. I kind of, I don't know. He was just kind of there.

I don't know what purpose he had in a movie. He had a lot more to do in the show. I don't even think we even brought him up. Yeah. The movie, I'll probably give it a seven. Like I said, I was entertained. That's pretty good for the movie. Yeah, and they focus in the movie, they focus more on the death scenes.

That was good. I kind of enjoyed that. Yeah, the Rube Goldberg Final Destination type death scenes. Yeah. I enjoy. I enjoyed that. So, like I said, the show, a five, and then I'll give the movie a seven. I had more fun with the movie.

Cool. Man, I don't think I'm too far off from you. I got to go, I got to go lower on the show because I didn't watch the whole thing. And maybe it got better at the end. It didn't. Or maybe it didn't. Or maybe it didn't. I'll find out.

No, you probably never. No, I won't find out because I'm never watching that piece of shit again. You have to take our word for it. I'm going to give the show. I'm going to catch hell for it, I'm sure. I'm going to give it a two. Yeah, man. Possibly Phillips' lowest score ever.

It was fucking hard, man. I could not. Like, I watched some dumb-ass shows, man. I will binge some dumb-ass shows. And I tried to binge this one. And I just, I, when you were talking about playing on your phone and shit, yeah, I started doing that. I got up and started doing things around the house.

and like I couldn't Every time Like somebody would say something I was like Oh my God Well you get to the goddamn point You know what I mean I couldn't deal with it

It's so inefficient I felt like it was a fucking You know A freshman in high school Trying to write some sort of essay And it was supposed to be 16 pages But he only had three pages worth of shit You know what I mean

You know what it was like for me It was like watching someone play chess I liked the game but I don't want to sit there and watch someone play it. And it was just light and L going back and forth. Yeah, but it was a chess game where they just made up their own rules as they went along. Oh, yeah. By the way, I forgot to mention this rule.

Bam. How you like that? And writing in the fake rules and shit. The 13-day rule. It's the whole thing. Hey, there was a 5% chance that was going to happen. Oh, I know. whatever he said was going to happen.

And he kept throwing in that same 5%. I was like, why are you stuck on that fucking number, man? Like, I feel like maybe, maybe there was some stuff that was lost in translation. Like, the Japanese thing. Maybe a cultural thing, right? Maybe they were a little more, you know, to the point in the Japanese,

and it just takes longer to say the words. And so they had to say the same words over and fucking over again. I hadn't even thought about that. To fill up that space. Right? I don't know. Yeah, good point, man. But that's what it felt like.

They were just like fill in space. A lot of it was just filling space. And all 37 episodes of it. For real. The, well, all the like 10, 15 of them that I watched. Right. The movie, though, okay, so, yeah, the anime, too. The movie, I actually kind of enjoyed.

I thought light was a list. I thought Lice Wes a wuss. Yeah. He's okay. He's doing the right thing. I get it. But he's not like John Snow doing the right thing. You know what I mean?

That guy, I respect. That guy, look, I'm doing the right thing and fuck you if you don't like it. Yeah. Liat is like, well, maybe I should do that, you know? And then his bitch-ass girlfriend. Yeah, the one that was in the leftovers, the TV. show the leftovers. Oh, she was in the leftovers. But she looks like the chick that was in the sparkling vampires movies. She looks like that bitch I dated too, man. Oh, shit. Anyway,

okay. Get a little too personal here. Somebody's got their own death note. They're about to start writing names in over here. Nah. All right, if this bitch dies mysteriously listeners, you know who it was. You don't know who it is. Anyway, um, uh, but I, I did enjoy the movie. I watched it before I watched the anime And granted I haven't watched anime in fucking 20 years But uh It was kind of fun And I won't watch it for another 20 years

I'm not gonna go as high as a 7 I'll give it a 6 I think it was worth watching Um If you if you enjoy the anime At least check out the movie Why not? It's worth watching It's free if you have Netflix

It's better than the show was Sorry there you go. Probably going to be on the box art when they do the DVD. Yeah. Better than the anime. Sorry. All right, yeah.

It may be a cultural thing, you know, the anime and all that, or it's just maybe just something I'm not into. I hated his fucking hair, by the way. You know what? Piss me off on the anime now that you bring it up. Not the anime, the movie. Okay. But you know what bothers?

What the fuck year is it? All right. Here's something that bothered me on the anime. Every time they started thinking, because they had to say everything, but then also think it. Yeah. Okay.

Oh, my gosh. Are you going to bring up the one scene? Well, what scene are you talking about, Brian? I mean, I'm not trying to step on your toes, but... No, go for it, man. I say which one they did it 25 times. The fucking potato chip scene. Oh.

And I take a potato chip. a chip and I'll eat it. And I'll take another David chip. What was up with that, man? I don't know. I don't... Cultural icon, man.

He just has to explain every single thing that he's doing because they ran out of shit to write for that episode and they had to fill up that amount of space. I'm telling you. The whole fucking show is filler. Holy shit, dude. Delete.

Delete. Delete. Delete. So what we were. was the thing with a potato chip, Brian? Oh, he I believe it was when he was

being, had surveillance in his room. And he had the little TV monitor inside the potato chip bag. Because he can't just write a name in it. He needs a face to go with it. Oh, God. And as he writes

the name, he's going to eat a potato chip. And it super dramatic. All right. And then they did it like three times. Like in a row. Not even separated.

It was just a whole scene where he was eating potato chips and writing names. And how did he get the camera inside the fucking bag of potatoes? I don't know. I mean, his whole house was under surveillance. They also explained how much it cost when he threw it away. Which can we get to, why in the fuck people are dying of heart attacks so we need to investigating people? Well, in the movie, they explained it more.

Because he came right out and said, I am Kira. In the movie, he said it, and that's what tipped him off. And that actually made sense. But in the fucking cartoon, he didn't say anything. They just said, hey, a lot of people are dying of heart attacks, and they all happen to be criminals.

Do you think there may be somebody killing them? Maybe we should investigate it, because we're the good guys and the bad guys are dying, so why the fuck not? My number for the... God damn it, let the wolf be the wolf. Wow. That guy is the shepherd.

You know what? My number is sinking as we speak, guys. Oh, my God. I was going to say to it. I was going to stay two that. Brian, with the potato chip scene, you brought me down to it, too. And Philip, you motherfucker, you just brought me down to a...

1.5. And I'm the one who likes everything. Oh my god. All right. Anime. Sorry anime fans out there listening. If you quit listening to us, I'm sorry. We wish you'd give us another shot. Come back and listen to some horror movie talk. But we ain't talking no more anime, bitch. Because that's it. If we do, it's not going to be death note. It'll be some old school anime. You know what? If we talk any more anime, it's going to be beautiful Japanese cartoon women getting fucked by the void tentacles

those are the best ones all kidding aside 1.5 for the animated series I'm sorry but the bright side I liked the movie

more than I didn't like it so I'm giving it a 5.5 yeah you all ready for spoilers yeah let's do it that's about how I felt about the movie who's first I liked it more than I didn't this is a motherfucking spoiler alert

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Okay. I'll get right into it. I did not like this portrayal of light in this movie.

He, like I said before, he's a fucking pussy. You get right into it. He's trying to help somebody help a girl. What was it? A girl or somebody? on the first death? Yeah, no, at school.

Someone's getting beat up, no, someone's getting beat up and he immediately says, oh, you, what did he say? You flunked, or you got held back a year, so you're an adult now. So if you hit me, that's child abuse.

Oh, what a cock sucker. And he didn't even try to get laid with the chick. Not only a dumb-ass line, but something that probably would have happened in the anime, too. Except that the light in the anime was not about getting beat up. No, he was not. Right?

True. Big difference. And another thing that I kind of, that I liked on the movie, I'm going to, something I liked in the movie was how there was more of like a cult following for, for light in the movie I felt than the show. Yeah. Kira saves and all that. Yeah, that was kind of neat, actually. That was a cool concept.

Yeah, because you had the police department. pissed off at his dad for even investigating Kira. So, you know, they're trash in his office. They're, you know, you can just feel it when he walks through the department. And I like that because you're going to have these people that are going to go along with what he's thinking. Yeah, he's killing all the criminals. You know, he's doing a good job.

But in the movie, it was more so everybody was afraid. I mean, there was a couple scenes in the show where, like, I think on the, on the train, or the whatever, how he was, I think a kid was getting bullied and he was basically telling the bullies like, I put your name on the internet and your picture. But that was the third, that was the third, Kira, that said that by then.

Oh, was it? Okay. Are you talking about the movie? I don't know anymore. It's all that is at this point. There's a whole lot of death note in a week. No shit. We'll never do this again, will we?

Yeah. Although we do have the entire prisoner series we have to watch before Kingsman 2. Oh, you'll like it. Okay. I think you'll like it. Another thing that didn't bother me was I know there's a lot of controversy about the whitewashing, but it's made by an American director. Right.

And I believe Netflix. A very good director, wouldn't we all agree? Yeah, I believe. Yeah. And, you know, I don't think that's necessarily an issue. I think people just get pissy over some stupid shit. Yeah, I mean, it probably wouldn't have made no sense if it was a white actor and they kept his name Yagami. You know, they changed it.

They changed the location. Turner or something like that, light Turner or whatever. Yeah. And instead of Tokyo, it was Seattle. And it didn't bother me. It didn't take me out of it. Right. So.

Yeah, I think that if they had. kept with all like Japanese characters or whatever then they had a lot of Japanese in here in the movie I don't think

that if everybody was Japanese that it would have been as mainstream as it is and I think that was the goal true and apparently there is a couple of Japanese

live action versions of this movie so yeah why would they why would they make a why would they make another one? So that's another reason I'm fine with the American remake. You know, you already got Japanese live-action version.

Yeah. And I think that's why they changed the character of light. They tried to make him more relatable instead of just some sort of tyrant super hero slash villain question mark. Yeah. But his chick was more. of a villain. Right. In the movie. She, yeah,

because she'll fucking kill everybody if she needs to. Yeah, the thing I liked about the movie was the like I said, I'm a sucker for the Final Destination stuff. And I like the way they did those setups. I also love the scene at the end when they were on the

Ferris wheel. Okay. And it was breaking apart. And he had, he had Reeb Goldberg set all that up too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He knew exactly what was going to happen and he figured it all out. That's what he was acting more like the light from the animated series. He thought everything out in advance. Like they, they, they, they, they, they, they, I mean, the light in the anime series

was also very popular, you know, I mean, he was, he was, he was, an A student and, ah, yeah, number one guy, you know, that was super racist. But you get the idea. Yeah, I get the idea. Like, you know, like I like the movie a lot more than I like the anime and that might it might be a cultural thing. But I mean, at the end of the day, I thought that the way that they made it more succinct and they wrapped up the story within a couple of hours instead of going 37 fucking 20 minute episodes. You know, I would twist and turns and unnecessary characters. I wouldn't watch a 10 episode like series on this. I'm glad they made it a movie. Absolutely. So anything else you guys want to say before we

wrap it up? No, I think we talk way too much death note. All right, so that's pretty much it. I guess as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the horror returns. We'd love to hear your

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We are going to have a special guest, Austin Wood from Horror Night Podcast. But we might have Patrick as well, Brian. Is that right? Oh. It's a possibility. We'll work it out. Okay.

So this could be one of those super shows. That's cool. I mean, if you're going to do it, do it with it. Yeah. It's everyone's looking forward to it. Brian, is this one you're looking forward to? This is my most anticipated. So next week, this could fall under my best or worst.

because I'm going into this with high expectations. Yeah, me too. That's not always a great thing. I guess we'll find out. So, until the horror returns again, good.