The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #67: It (1990) & It: Chapter One (2017) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: February 12, 2022

This week, we are joined by Austin Wood of Horror Night podcast to cover the original TV miniseries as well as the movie version of IT. This is also our first week of coverage by Zack Baxter and the Knights of the Drunk Watch as they break down episode 1 of American Horror Season 7. Thanks for listening!

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This is a horror podcast, and horror movies tend to be R-rated, so you can expect us to be too. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Phillip. And joining us tonight is a special guest, Austin Wood, from Horror Night Podcast. Austin, what's going on with your podcast these days, man? It's been great. I mean, I just currently are on high ages right now to see what this hurricane is going to do if it hits my studio, but anyhow, moving on.

We got some big guests. the show currently. We had Dee Wallace's kid on the show. She was great. We're going to have trying to get the guy from a thousand

house corpses on the show. He'll be on the show very soon. Cool. Now if this news follow or join out my podcast group called Holy Night Podcast, you will

know every week who's going to be on the show and we are to post our episodes in the group so you interact with the show to see what's going on with holling night all right i know you're on uh youtube and we're going to post the link on the show notes and everything on pod bean and iTunes but um where do people go to to listen to your podcast um you can see us on youtube on holl and night or You can look us up on our Facebook group on Holy Night Podcast. We also post the videos in our group also. So you have to go to YouTube and you can't find that.

You can go straight to Facebook and watch it there too. Cool. Well, I'll tell you what, man, we start our show. We got a tradition where we talk about our cool of the week. And that's like, you know, the coolest thing that you've watched this week. Or it can be something you listen to if you listen to some, you know, good music or sports event. I know you're into sports,

but other than the movies we're talking about, what's the coolest thing you've seen this week, Austin? Well, probably one of my favorite horror moves. I just bought it not too long ago. It has Arnold Schwarzeneges doing it, and it's called Maggie. Now, Maggie is based on his story, like, ownership and his daughter, which I cannot remember the actress's name that play.

voices, but it's about this. She got bit, she gets infected, and then it goes down here from now. But it's a great movie. Yeah, I remember seeing that one. That was pretty good. I haven't seen that movie yet. I think Michael the week? Yeah?

Go ahead. No, I was just asking Brian if you'd seen Maggie, man. No. I haven't seen it yet. I'm familiar with that, though. Yeah, I'll check it out. Yeah, it's definitely worth the watch, I'd say. And that's probably like the first horror movie I've seen that

on a Schwarzenegger done Willie Clayton. Yeah, you said, for Schwarzenegger, and I was racking my brain trying to think of where you were on with it. But no, that was a good one. I think Michael of the week was probably, I'm caught up on the center, that show on USA, We've mentioned it a couple times already. And it's pretty good.

Like, I'm getting into it. It's super awkward and creepy and weird, but we're finally starting to find some stuff out. It's the only one that I get excited for every week. And I totally forgot that American Horror Story was on this week. Oh, don't even get me started on that. I love May Night Texas. That's my favorite show. Yeah.

Never seen it. Never check that one out. It's on every Monday night at 10 on NBC. So many cute girls are in it, like a vampire's on it, like a sexy chick who's dating a psycho guy who can weed minds and spirits. It's so cool. One episode that had a succubus on them and it was smoking on. Damn. That's one good reason to watch it.

There you go. I mean, it was crazy, so. Well, I've actually watched quite a few movies. I've been sick for the past week. So I've been trying to catch up on a lot of movies. We've reviewed trailers. Mm-hmm. So I'm just going to just a real quick review on three different movies.

I watch Ghost House. Oh, yeah? I'm not going to spoil none of these movies. I'm just going to say a little underwhelming. Oh, no. That's what it looked like. Yeah. The Monster Project.

Okay. A film footage movie. Ghost House is on Netflix. Is the Monster Project? No, it's not. Okay. I think Alfonso said it best. The Monster Project is a meh on 10.

Totally missed a mark. All right. I love Ghost House. And the last one was a movie that everybody should go of Kevin Ness's podcast, McNaz podcast,

to listen to his review on the ice cream truck. Oh, yeah, okay. I actually enjoyed this one. And one of the main things I enjoyed, I thought the people in the neighborhood were really creepy, a lot more creepier than the actual ice cream man.

So that one probably is my favorite one out of the three. Cool. Austin, you've seen Ghost House? I've heard of it, my favorite actresses in it, Scout Tether Compton. I'm a big, big, big fan of her. I try and get her on my

podcast so many times. All right. Well, keep trying, dude, because I know you get a lot of interviews, so eventually you'll get her on there, I'm sure. Hopefully. All right, so my cool of the week is either I may never live

this down. I might get fucked with over this on Facebook and with, this is probably going to be, I'm probably opening a door here I shouldn't open, but God damn it, it's a good fucking show. You guys ever heard of it? There's a TV show that's all about a

nail salon. It's called Claus. Anybody heard of it? What the hell? Yeah, I heard of it. What the hell indeed. It's a really good fucking show. It's on TNT, and they've got first season is 10 episodes.

It's already been renewed. And just, long story short, I don't want to give too many twists away, It's basically they get into money laundering. I don't want to say it's just like Ozark or Breaking Bad, but if you watch those two shows, it's kind of in that vein. Are they like catty Asian women? No, they're... Oh, that totally defeats the purpose.

They say we are a multi-ethnic nail saline. So they get, you know, a black chick, Hispanic chick, a white chick, you know. But the person who steals the show is the guy that runs the Dixie Mafia. that they're laundering the money for. He's character's name is Uncle Daddy. And he's played by Dean Norris. You guys remember him from Breaking Bad? Yes.

He's fucking amazing. It's a really good show, and it's only 10 episodes. Yeah, I've heard a lot of people say that it wasn't what they expected to be, and that's what drew a lot of people to the show. You know what? I actually heard them talking about it, Alan and Shelley talking about it, about it on Horacopia that they've been watching it every week. And I'm like, oh, fuck it.

I'll give it a try. And, man, the first episode pulled me in. So there's my cool of the week. So go ahead and fuck with me, everybody. Oh, God. You know I'm going to get stuck watching it too. Hey, it's good, man. Rose pulls me into some dumb shit.

Yeah. I'll take it out. All right. Well, Brian, we got any headlines this week, man? I'm asking you this, Lance. How do you feel about sci-fi's blood drive being canceled after one? season. You know what?

It does not surprise me. And let me tell you why, because I remember when they came out with it, they were saying that this was part of the group of shows that was going to be under what, is it midnight grind house, Brian? Yeah. Okay. So I just assumed it was only going to be. I think it's like an anthology thing where it's basically, so Blood Drive was the first season.

And then I think they're going to have a, I think they're going to have another midnight grind house show next year and so on and so on. I don't think it was canceled because of lack of interest in the show. But different director, different cast? Yeah, a lot of people I've heard that watched it, love the show.

So, I think you're, I think you're on to something. They just didn't intend to make a season two. I don't think so. I hope that's the case. I hope it wasn't canceled. But sci-fi is really bad about canceling shows with cliffhangers at the end.

Like, I know Dark Matter, they did that. And Austin, you remember, did you ever watch Battlestar Galactica? Nope, never have, never will. Okay. Well, they wrapped it up, but then they did like an offshoot show, and it only lasted one season. So it wouldn't surprise me if it was, you know, if they did intend it first to go on.

But I don't know, that's what I was thinking they were going to do. we shall see where they go from here. Our next thing we're going to talk about, Lance, directed to you again, because we think we had a difference of opinion. They announced the next purge movie. It's going to be a prequel titled Purge the Island. And it's going to be about the first experimental purge night set on Staten Island. Austin, what do you think, man?

I think the whole movie is completely bullshit. shit. I mean, what kind of movie is purged? I mean, that's the dumbest movie I've ever seen in my tower life. That's the dumbest tile of a movie. Who cares about purge? Well, what in the hell is a purge?

All right. You get along with Lance. I'll watch it, man. You know, I don't expect a ton from it, but the last couple of them were pretty decent. I'll check it out. I think they're fun. I mean, Yeah. I'm not going to say they have the best scripts, you know, the best story.

But they're just fun little movies. Like a saw movie. Yeah. You know what you're getting with it. Yeah. So I think we should be getting that sometime next year. And our last thing, like I said, another slow news week. We reviewed the trailer for Death House.

It's basically like the expendables of horror. and finally got a release date. January 26. Are you guys still interested in this movie? Yeah, why not? I forgot about it, but yeah, no, I'll totally watch it. Got to see it. Lance?

Yeah, got to see it for sure. With that cast? And I believe, if I'm reading it correctly, they're only releasing it in Regal theaters. Oh. It doesn't look like a big, wide release kind of a thing. Austin, you had something to say about that? Yes.

I know a little bit about the cast. Now, I know King is going to be in there. I know Dee Wallace is going to be on there. So it's going to be a huge cast. King Hunter is probably a whole legend. Same thing with Dee Wallace. I love the cast. It's going to be a great movie.

I cannot wait to watch it. Yeah, I think we'll all see this one. It's pretty much a given, right, Philip? Oh, yeah, definitely. Yep, January 26, and that is all the news. All right, well, cool. So, Austin, you live in Virginia, or where do you live? I live in the coming west of Virginia, Virginia Beach, Virginia.

Do they have any trailer parks up there? I have no clue. I've never been outside of my home state. I've been to Richmond. I've been to everywhere, but I've never seen a damn trailer park. All right. Well, I'll tell you what, if you'll join us, man. We'll all take a little trip together down to the trailer park. We're going to take a look at the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's our first new trailer to talk about this week? I'm going to talk about marrowbone, starring... Anya Taylor Joy, Mia G. G. G. G. Sanchoze. What did you guys think?

I don't know. This is about. Yeah, I mean, it has a great cast in it. Yeah, I agree. It looks original at least. At least it wasn't a remake or a prequel. Yeah, I think I read. Hermel Deltoro-Torra. Yeah, I think I read a little bit about the synopsis. I think they, the kids, had covered up a murder of their mother so they can stay together

and I think supernatural things happen after that I mean you don't really get much of that in the trailer but just based off this cast I will definitely check it out because I think the one actress is super creepy looking.

Mia Gath from Oh Mia Gauth. Yeah, the one from Cure for Wellness. Yeah, that had us all confused on her age, her actual age in the movie. Oh, yeah. She is a creepy little thing.

And then it's got Charlie Heaton. He was in Stranger Things. He was Will's older brother. So definitely we'll check this out. Austin, what are you thinking about this one? I have no cool what you're talking about. I don't know what the movie is, so no comment.

All right. All right. We got a release date of October 27th. Just in time for Halloween, huh? Yep. Next trailer we're going to talk about is a new Netflix movie,

Stephen King's Gerald's game, starling Carla Gugino, Bruce Greenwood, Henry Thomas, and others directed by Mike Flanagan. And a lot of people know Mike Flanagan from Oculus, Hush, and Ouija Origin of Evil.

Right. Okay. I like what it's bringing to the table, just from his name. Has anybody read the, story? Oh yeah. It's a great book, man. I don't know how they're going to make it into a movie, though, because

95% of the book takes place inside her head. Okay. What is the basis of the story? Basically, her and her husband get into some sex games, where they get into a little mild bondage. And I didn't see, they didn't

convey it as much in the trailer, but in the book, he had quite a bit of a mean where he was kind of like, they kind of alluded to it that he was not necessarily physically abusive to her, but he was always very emotionally abusive to her. So he, like, started getting real gleeful when he handcuffed her and he got to start acting rough with her.

And the next thing, you know, he keels over of a heart attack. And it goes, and that's pretty much probably going to be the first five minutes of the movie if it follows the pace of the book. And then everything else is, you know, just her tripping out in her own mind being trapped alone in a house, literally handcuffed. That's about what I gathered from the preview. It looks interesting. Yeah, I'm a big fan of Carla Gugino, so she's definitely on my Hall Pass list.

Mike Flanagan, I enjoy all his movies so far, and it's going to be on Netflix, so I think it's a must watch. Stephen King. Yeah, we'll check it up. Austin, you're going to give it a watch? Uh, nope. You don't like Stephen King? I do, but I don't have Netflix, so I'm screwed. Oh, okay.

So you're the one, huh? Yep. So, uh, release date, September 29th on Netflix. Right around the corner. Oh. Oh. And our final trailer we're going to talk about is insidious. The Last Key, starring Lynn Shea, Josh Stewart, Javier Botet, and others, and directed by Adam Robatel, who the only thing I recognize that he's done is the taking of Deborah Logan.

Oh, that was one of my favorites. Right? Yeah. So, Philip, I guess you start, go ahead, Lance. No, no, no, I was just going to say this one, this one didn't excite me. No? Yeah. Nah, not really.

If I'm going off of where the insidious movies were going, the third one was not my favorite to the point where I don't even remember what happened in it. I don't either. It's very like poltergeist rip-offy, but they have some cool visuals. It's kind of creepy. It's kind of the next big franchise is out there other than the Conjuring series. Yeah. I mean, I'm interested in the, I'm interested.

I'm interested in the demon in it with the key fingers and seeing where she's inserting the key into the girl's neck. That looked really strange. Yeah, I've never seen that before. I mean, when I saw the trailer, it was so attractive. When the key went into an egg to the hot girl, it was very attractive. I loved it. Yeah, it's good. A little bit.

Do what? He's unlocking that bitch. Damn. So we got a release date of January 5th. All right. And that is our last trailer. Well, Philip, we got any listener feedback coming in this week? Yeah, we got a little bit.

Let's see. We got a few emails. Mark Chevalier says, hey, boys. just listen to the Mexican horror episode. You guys did with Pedro Nunez and there was a lot of interesting movies in there. I especially want to see Night of a Thousand Cats now.

Yeah, I forgot about that. I still totally have to watch it on. However, when you are going through your post about other countries' horror movies, there wasn't one about Canadian horror. Even though we're similar to the U.S., there's a Canadian flair to our movies.

There's some serious ones like Cube. And then we also do a lot of wacky movies like Hobo with a shotgun and Wolf Cop yeah anyways just wanted to bring it up maybe you guys could do it for a future episode

take care great what do you guys think yeah yeah I think eventually we'll get through all the countries you know there's a lot of a lot of horror out there to talk yeah like huge

like one of my movies dying to see is fat diners That's going to be a good movie. Yeah. Oh, is it? Yeah. We'll do Canadian horror for that week, huh? Yeah, that's right.

And guys, don't forget David Cronenberg's a Canadian. Ah. What happens when we get to, like, Scandinavian horror? They got plenty of them. They've got, Austin, have you seen any of those? What are the movies about the zombies that, the, Nazi zombies that come back, dead snow? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm regarding the new season of American horror story, Josh Youngblood says this season is awful. Don't get sucked in like Eric and I did. Save yourselves. Little early there, Josh. Yeah, I still want to check it out. To which Erica Bionach replied, Let's start a podcast about it because I think I'm obsessed with this season already.

Josh also said, so I'm pretty sure this season of American Horror Story writing team just thought, what could be the most obnoxious, douche-baggiest, trendiest thing we could make this season about? Let's see. We got Trump. Check. Clowns. Check. Vaccinations.

Check. Fuck this show. Fuck this goddamn show. My buddy said it best This show is like an abusive relationship But that being said I know I'll still watch it And I'm going to hate myself because of it

God damn it I don't blame you man I'm still going to check it out I don't know you know I heard it's a little political But Yeah fuck it I'm going to watch it anyway

Let's see We got Lars from Denny Mark, he sent us a couple things. He says he's just set fire to his Vampiros Lesbos DVD Thanks for the warning, Brian Stitcher. Horrible movie. Yeah, it was pretty bad. I mean,

there were boobs, but it was bad. Lars also said, Hey, dudes, there are always songs in your shows, which is great. So how about a show about the music and horror movies, scores and songs and artists? The legend

The weird and the awful. Cool. I think it's a great idea, man. Yeah, we definitely have to work that in the schedule somewhere. Yeah, we'll get Lars on there as a guest, man. That sounds like a plan. We'll do it. Hey, Austin, what do you, are there any movie soundtracks or songs for movies that really stand out for you?

Um, um, um, one movie soundtrack is the Wishing You Exorcist. Oh, yeah. Tubular bells. Stop. And the Rob Zombie Part 1 of Halloween. That one was a good one, too. And Devil Rejects is another one. Oh, awesome.

Rob Zombie's got to be on that show somewhere. That guy knows how to pick some music. For sure. I mean, and this goes on and yon, on, and yon, but I just love Rob Zombies so much. Yeah, he's good. Hey, we saw him last year, Austin. We were at the, Phillip and I were at the Rocklahoma concert, and we saw his stage show.

We didn't get to get very close because the place was packed, but he puts on a good show. Not only that, his wife is smoking hot. Oh, yeah. Right. I love his wife. Yeah. She's something else, man.

All right, we got Marcus Will Turner. Says It on Friday, which is today. got two free tickets and there's a bar next to the theater okay he's going to be the loud guy also for Marcus regarding insidious the last key while I tend to sway

back and forth in my opinion towards the last two entries there's no denying how incredible the original remains as well as as well as the effective and intense scares that have resonated throughout the entire series so I'm there not a bad review man i think he put it kind of hit the nail on the head with it right you know

it's still no conjuring but it's worth checking out i think yeah um and that's it and everybody thanks to everybody who reaches out to us we love the feedback and as always you can reach us at our facebook or pod bean page or you can email us directly at the horror returns at gmail.com uh we love to hear from you please leave us an iTunes review and might hook you up with a t-shirt. I'm joined the Facebook group. We definitely love to hear what everybody has to say. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, always got some great conversations going in there. Absolutely. All right, so we're going to our featured attractions, guys. But before we do that, we've got a little segment that we're going to start, speaking of American Horror Story, beginning this week throughout the run of American Horror Story cult, we've got some friends that have contributed to our podcast for the entirety of the show. Philip, you remember those crazy motherfuckers we met at Comic Paloosa, Zach Baxter, and the Knights of the Drunk Watch?

Oh, yeah. Well, they have graciously provided to us a little segment we can put in, and they're going to do one for us for every episode. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, and we will put all their information on our show notes, folks, so you'll know how to go and find their drunken commentaries that they do for many different shows. Oh, that would be fine.

Yeah, and we'll be involved with them and some other stuff in the near future. Most likely among those being Walking Dead, which is cool. So without further ado, we're going to play that segment now, and then we'll get back to our featured attractions. Everyone is Zach Baxter, and we are with the Knights of the Drum Watch. We just finished episode one of American Horror Story Season 7,

cult and so let's do our thing oh wait we introductions first right I'm Jeremiah I'm Adi I'm Zach I'm Andrew Heart Crystal

we are professionals at doing this we're drinking we get in the order you're messed up in order so let's sorry okay I'm sorry I apologize

let's raise our glass everybody we're nights of the drunk watch And now our talk begins. So we just watched episode one. If you don't know who we are, we have the nights of the drunk watch.

We have a live stream every Tuesday watching American Horror Story and making a live reaction to it. So always join us on the Zach Baxter channel. So let's take it to Kate now, and she's going to tell us some of our nuggets that we're going to talk about in this after show. Nice and loudly.

All right. So the first thing that we're going to talk about is Allison and all of her phopias. exciting so can we count them on one hand no I don't think I think you need some extra toes I don't even think you know what they all are yet

yeah so what is the she has a phobia of holes which I think is the funniest but it's not really holes pink it's like it's definitely like a pus-filled like oozing type situation

that she's worried about the crumpet no it was spinach she flared it was it had a color it was bleating Listen. Okay, so she's scared of pink holes. She's a bad lesbian.

Okay, so I don't know. She's a bad lesbian. Maybe the holes make her thinking confined spaces. She mentioned confide spaces. Yeah, so she's not agoraphobic. She is not a gorophobic yet. So she can still get out of her house so she doesn't like to. She's definitely afraid of clowns, possibly afraid of sex.

I don't know. Apparently she knows. Maybe it's another one. They haven't. Oh, yeah. Maybe she's afraid of her girlfriend. pink hole. We're getting shut down on this podcast.

We're talking about pink holes. I'm going to drink to a pinkle. The first one that we encounter is the I'll bring to a pinkle. She's, but it's almost an irrational fear of clowns. That's sweetie, that's what a phobia is.

A rational fear. Not necessarily, actually. A lot of phobias have a type of a definition. By definition of the fact is an irrational fear. Okay.

He's an irrational fear. But even if it's in a printed graphic novel, it's still... Yeah, she has an ira-trigger. I think my point is that there is usually something related to a phobia that caused this phobia. Normally, phobias don't show up out of nowhere. As somebody who lives with arachnophobia, I can tell you it came from a particular instance in my life. Right, but that always... Then I would make it an arachnophobia.

What do you mean? You're just scared a spider. No, there's a difference. I used to have seizures if I saw them. And if she's, you know, we're getting off topic, but if she sees them, even if they're bitty spiders and they're not going to hurt her. Like a fear, a phobia is an irrational fear,

which means you are afraid of it for unreasonable reason. You're not afraid of it because it's actually a threat. Because it's actually a theory. I'm just saying this she has to have a reason. To take it back to the original show, she has to have a reason for these fears. She has to have experienced some kind of trauma. Otherwise, why are we even watching this?

Well, that's probably. Okay, my question is, a clown in real life, I can see a scary and threatening, but a clown in a graphic novel? But if you have an irrational fear, then... I wonder if she's like... The image of the clown. I have the same problem. So we see a spider in an encyclopedia, which don't exist anymore.

I feel like they're on me. Like, if I see it, I feel like they're on me. She's seen spiders in movies. She texts us and complains that we didn't want to. Okay. But also we have the weird thing. For some reason, her phobia is we were lowered by Obama's presidency. And makes no sense, y'all.

She makes no sense. She felt safer. I think it's because Obama had such a vocal anti-clown campaign. Oh, yeah. She felt safe in her home. Although with those ears, you kind of look like once in a lot. Too soon. Nope.

Hey, if we can make Fonacito face, we can make sure. fun of the ears. That's true. I just, I feel like... Yeah, Obama was born with ears. Trump was not born with Cheetahe off age. I am wondering if this whole thing is because she has encountered

Twistie the clown before. That would be fun. That would be fun too. I guess that's a good question is, I don't think Twistie's still alive. I don't think he's really a show, if she did, they were showing him. But if she would have encountered him,

she would have encountered him when she was young. when she was a child. He's just a comic book character and not real. She's not old enough to... Well, clearly people are still encountering Twisty to date. No, that was a reenacted. No, that was a reenacted in the comic book. Twistie is merely a comic character.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. But he was real in Jupiter, Florida. Right. But he was taken away by... What's his face? Still in the... Danny Mott. No, not by Dandy.

Dandy killed Twisty. The monster guy came in... Dandy killed Dasty. He took his mask. He took his costume. Dandy killed Twisty in the bus. Anyway, so moving on, because we do only a 15 minute. Sorry.

Time. It's okay. But Allison is kind of this weird, very focused on the election and how it's affecting everything. It's affecting her marriage. She's lots of anxieties. Yeah. Tons of anxiety.

Enough that even her shrink is like, take some pills and leave me love with. But she's been not supplied with her medication, so it's just getting worse. Well, and also, feels like she's trying to rationalize with herself and not take her medication. She's not, I mean, according to her wife, she's not even trying to help anything. I feel bad for Ivy, y'all. Like, that's not an easy life. Yeah, her wife is having a struggle.

That is. The struggle's real. So, and next, we can talk about these. The next ones in kind of any order we want to. I don't know how needed we're going to get, but we have Kai, Winter, and the Clowns. And at the end, we're going to talk about how we think. think we might, they might be related. So let's not do that now.

Let's just kind of talk about them individually. So Kai, we see at the beginning, getting real amped up that Trump was... Just bonkers. She's just bonkers. He's just... Compan TV, love and life. I'm pretty sure he's like an... Like, he's a symbol for, like, white supremacy and the fear that runs through America,

you know, about diversification. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it is. Because I was going to say maybe not even specifically. white supremacy, but just like that whole alt-right thing. Because he's also very like anti-government. Because in that court hearing, he was saying like

we should have less fewer cops, less protection of places. Because if they get blown up, that's what the people want. They want fear. It seems like these two are set up to be archetypes of the most fanatical opposite sides of the political spectrum that

there could be. Like one is just an utter incomplete, worst thing that Republicans imagine out of a snowflake just has to live in their house and cannot deal with anything. Right. Sure. And then for Jill's time. And then like, Obama made them feel safe and, you know, like their life was better. And then he

is just like, let's murder all the Mexicans and throw pee at them. Yeah. It wasn't really about the Mexican. No, it was, it was just an example. It was about getting a being, though, and making himself a victim. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. Of Mexican. Yeah. But whether he actually hates Mexicans or not. Yeah, I think it's, he

he hates everybody. He's just the worst alt-right and she's the worst well he didn't go attack a nursing home he wouldn't attack a group of Mexicans right and Asians if we assume he's connected to those oh that's right yeah but that was even if it was he was revenge for the congressman

right right but he didn't go kill all the other congressmen some of which were right you don't know yet that agent didn't know yeah city council no no but it was Tim Kang who humiliated him that's true that's true that's true the talking down to so um So that's revenge and not a hate crime.

And he even said... Revenge of the Old Town. There is... Hang on. Nothing more dangerous in this world than a humiliated man. True. Yep. So that is specifically what he said in that moment.

And so we kind of knew bad stuff. He's definitely got that Charles Manson, like, make everybody afraid of each other and start, you know, anarchy. Because that's what Charles Manson wanted to do. He wanted to start a race war. That was his whole thing. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. We could also talk about winter. And what her deal is. So she is, we first see her. She's coming. Yeah. Oh, God.

Winter's here. Witcher's here. Jokes. So she was freaking out about Trump getting elected as well. And we first see her getting upset about that and also upset about Kai being there. Yes, Sam. Can I throw a theory out there? Sure.

Yeah. What if Kai and Winter are the same person? But multiple personalities. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Oh, my God. Just real quick, why would the lesbian hired a guy to, you know. Why would they?

I don't think they would. Okay, but, anyway, we have winter who we... Brian Murphy's done crazy to us. That's true. This weird dichotomy of she is in communication and talking to and kind of seems to be commiserating with Kai in that weird,

like, pinky swear talk about what she's afraid of and what she wants. But then it also, she's talking to the Ivy and Allie about she went to Vassar, but she stopped to be on Hillary's side. I think that was all lies. But, I mean, when we first saw her, she was upset that Trump won. Okay, but that does not equal went to Vassar and worked on the campaign. That just equals, I like Hillary Clinton. That's what we know.

Yeah. So we don't know. And at the same time, I have to wonder, like, I think she has drank the Kool-Aid hard. I think she's the first member of his cult. Like she is charmed by him She wants his hair I don't know His hair

More than his hair I'm trying to cuss Okay he'll try to keep him She wants his lovin He wants his McLuhan His blue McCloughin She wants his clown nose We got three minutes

To wrap his mother out And then also we have all of the clowns We can talk about how they're all connected Yeah but they're just creepy Yeah Right now they're just Yeah they're a trope Right now they're just using them

And they are real or not Depending on where we're are, I guess. Well, I think they're... The boy saw them. But they weren't on the cameras. Yeah, I don't know. Chas, but...

Oh, they weren't on the cameras. No, no. We didn't see them. We didn't see anything. But she told... Heidi told her. You never how does Ivy know? Like, why would she just make it up?

Why would she just make it up? I don't know. Maybe everybody's trying to drive her crazy or something. Well, and she didn't specifically... Oh, is the clouds that we saw in the store, are the clouds that we saw. Yeah. And we know that they murdered the chins, I'm going to with chings,

but we don't know if they were fucking in the produce cycle. So. Well, unless, unless, unless that the Oz and Allison are drinking from the same Kool-Aid, then they're not real. Yeah, that's possible. They're giving them the same hallucinogens or something. But the little boy saw them. Right, so then they're real.

From the point of view of the little boy, so the little boy saw something. I think the client. Well, yeah, but she just made him launch also. sorts of crazy stuff until on the computer. But that was her, that was, that was, that was Winter's argument was, yes, she said all of this happened, but also she's, he's reading this twisty comic. So her argument was, she said he read the twisty comic and imagined it or made it up. I think if he's a, you know, why would he imagine or make up the same exact clouds his mother

saw in the grocery store? Did anybody pick up where they are? Michigan. Michigan. Okay. Which is where Ryan Murphy is from in case you didn't know. Anything? My only theory is that I think Kai and Winter are the same person.

I don't. I don't think Ryan Murphy's that smart. The way that they were introduced to us, I can't imagine that would be true. It's like a fight club situation, which I... No, I think she's like his right-hand man. I think she's... I think that they're... His lady.

...of the political spectrum and yet they're friends. Yeah, because there's a... And he's a psycho, and she still follows him. even though they don't agree politically. But she's going to start becoming more and more on his side. I think so, too. Well, she's, I mean, she's, I mean, she's, I mean, she's, I don't think she's against him. I mean, I think that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the quiz he gave her,

what's your most pleasurable experience? What is your most fearful experience? Yeah. And the way that tied, tied into the interview to be the nanny. Yeah. You know, I mean, that was a flashback to them, like, having this, like, truth or dare moment. That wasn't the same pink You swear.

You know my question is though Like what was it What was the deal with the door? Was the door locked Remember he's walking? He put the Cheetos on his face or whatever And he's walking through And there was like a door

With the rose on it And but was there a lot? Is that where Winter was? Is he keeping her hostage? Is he brainwashing her? He was currently on the hallway Didn't see Winter. Okay so then

I guess the question is What's in? I think the big question is What's their relationship? Are they friends? Right. Brothers and sisters. They're the same person.

They're not the same person. Not the same person. All right. Everybody votes against Zach. I'm just saying. If you think they're the same person, leave me a comment and let me know. Perhaps he will wager some shots. Oh, I'll wager some shots.

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Zach Baxter channel. Let's raise our glass. And we're going to say, we'll see or talk to you soon. Cheers. Bye. And now it is time for our featured attractions. This week, we finally talk about the much anticipated theatrical release It as well as the 1990 TV

miniseries. This is Livingston from Creature Feature. You're listening to The Horror Returns. Enjoy. The 1990 miniseries was directed and written by Tommy Lee Wallace. He's a pretty big name in horror. He was known for Halloween 3 Season of the Witch, as well as Fright Night Part 2 and some others.

In adult Ben's flashback to his first day at school, photos of Kujo are visible on a bulletin board behind the teacher. On the DVD commentary track, the actors note that Tim Curry's characterization of Pennywise was so creepy and spot on that everyone avoided him during filming. I'm done surprised me. Yeah, well, it could have been Frankenfurter, I guess, you know?

You ever see photos of him? Like, I guess it was offset. Uh-uh. Whenever filming it? Yeah, he looks like someone you want to avoid. Really? Yeah, you know, he's in makeup or no? Yeah, no, no, yeah, in makeup.

I don't mean, like, in general. But, yeah. I know if he was, like, standing off the sideway, like, half. makeup and he's all torn up from the night before or something. No, I bet, after they just, you know, cut from a scene and, you know, he's standing off set, he just kind of, he just really looks creepy. Character actors. And one other thing, the night guard in the asylum is called Coots, of course, named after

Stephen King's fellow horror author Dean Coontz. So, Austin, you're our guest on the show, so we give you the opportunity. would you like to talk about the 1991? Now, let me break it down for this news. Now, it's the original 1990 film. Now, Tim Curry did a great job in that movie. It's so funny. I mean, his character is obnoxious and weird and silly at the time.

It's very funny. I just love it. Now, the second point, they're all grown up, and it's crazy. And I really think I like the second point. They're all grown up than the first. So that's my opinion. All right. Well, I'm actually going to pass on this one because I have not seen it probably since the early 90s.

So I don't really feel I could give it a good review. And I have read the book. and I didn't like it because I love the book so much, so I'll pass on that. But I'm also going to be passing guys on the new movie. I'm going to leave all that up to you guys as well, because unfortunately with every chaos going on here and being out of town over the week,

I didn't get a chance to see it yet, but I will. So who wants to go next on the 1990 version? You are Stephen King expert, man. I was looking forward to your review. Sorry about that. catch it, but it's going to be later. Phillip, I think you seen the last night, the original one, right?

No, the original one I watched it earlier this week. I actually have a digital copy of it, and so it goes straight from the first half to the second half, and there's really no break in between. Okay. I think,

yeah, Tim Curry was kind of amazing in it. He's super creepy. There's that scene where he's the pictures in the book are coming alive and he's doing these little flips and jumps and stuff on the on the lamp post and stuff like that do you remember

yeah yeah okay that was really creepy to me I love the way that he moved I loved everything that he had going on he definitely cemented that terror in my brain as a kid but yeah going back and watching it It was, it's definitely a little bit dated, but I think the first half of the movie still really holds up. It's still got a lot of really creepy scenes.

It's a little cheesy, but, you know, it was a 90s TV movie. I still think it's classic, though. The second half, man, I'm sorry. I lost it on the second half. I started getting up and doing stuff, and I always forget what's half. happens. It's not really as scary to me. And then yeah, I kind of hated the whole

the ending at the very at the very end of everything. So first half, amazing classic, second half. Just kind of a hanging booger on the nose of excellence. Oh,

ouch. You know, I'm, Philip, I'm right there with you. I have a love-hate relationship with this movie. I love the first part. I don't want to say, you know, I'll take that back. I don't hate the second part. It's just not as good as the first. And maybe it's because it came out at a time when, you know,

I was really big into movies like the Goonies and Monster Squad. And, you know, that's what I felt with the first one. And also had a Jonathan Brandis. He was, you know, a big child actor. I've seen a lot of movies. Matter of fact, just recently watched Sidecakes with him and Chuck Norris. It's an awesome kid's a movie. but Tim Curry is iconic with his performance, you know, he kind of has a more,

it's creepy, but it's also playful at the same time in Jokey. And I always like that about his performance. So, um... And he pulls it off. He's not like weird about it, you know? Yeah. So, um, I would definitely, and the second. in half, I don't know, it just didn't hit with me as much.

And then, you know, you got, the ending with the spider was just, it was lacklust. It was, it was, it was not the best. Lance, uh, kind of wanted your opinion on the book as far as the, the mini series. Well, let me. Because you said you, it didn't like, you didn't like the, uh, movie because of the book. Yeah, there's never any Stephen, I'm never going to be satisfied with any Stephen King movie because there's just so many more details in the book. typically, but the ending was a lot more ambiguous. There wasn't, you know, like necessarily this big

spider monster at the end. It was more of, uh, um, it's kind of hard to describe the way he ended the book, but it's, it's kind of more of like a spirit type thing or, um, not necessarily a physical entity. Like it would manifest itself as pennywise and then it would take over like in one section a homeless person and things like that. But, um, yeah, at the end, you didn't, you didn't really have that and I thought it was kind of cheesy, but, Austin, you said you liked the second half better. I was kind of, like, curious, what did you like? Was it the acting of the older actors or the way that they came together to solve the problem

later? What did you like most about the second half? The second part was the older actors all growing up, and then the clown is more dumb and stupid than ever, and I just loved it. I mean, it was so freaking funny. I laughed the whole time the second part. I just loved it. It's like horror to comedy.

It was so funny. I couldn't stop laughing. It was hilarious. Well, there you go. That makes so much more sense now. I was speechless earlier. Curry was hamming it up, huh? Yeah, I mean, I was kind of drunk when I saw it.

So I was. So I loved everything he was doing, so I didn't work out. I'll give it to you, man. The second half is probably a whole lot funnier than the first. Okay. Well, there's something to be said for that. Yeah, the book, like I said, book was just a little bit more ambiguous, which you can get across better in a book.

You know, in a movie you almost have to show some kind of a physical enemy. So I think that's why they came up with a spider. That creature wasn't even really in the book. Thank God. It gives me hope for the second half of the new one. And the funniest... A lot better about that now. Go ahead.

And the funniest part in the second part, when Tim Curry, the clowns says, Beat, beat, Richie! It's a funny... And then, the girl in the library, and then he plays for some... boy. Right.

And then he goes, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. It's so funny. I mean, after we played that back over and over and over.

Right. It's so funny. The creepiness definitely didn't shine through in the second half. I think it was scarier on the first because they were kids,

you know? Mm-hmm. Creepier, huh? Yeah. You guys were about you. For a score? Yeah.

Yeah, Austin, you go first. Now, listen, we do rate it, like, as a general... You can either give a rating to part one, and then another one to part two, if you like, or you can just give one score. But we rate between one to ten, so ten being, of course, you know, a masterpiece and one being a piece of shit, like the bye-bye man this year.

So what's your rating on this, Austin? Yeah, okay. I always wait in movies. I go break it down. If there's blood, if there's sexy girls in it, now it don't have any of that, so I'm just going to give it a 7. That's not bad.

It's a pretty good school. You got a point. But yeah, you got a lot of points for sure. Who's next? Philip? Yeah. I'm going to say, the first half gets a nine,

just because it's a classic. the second half I'm going to say it's a six so we'll pull it up in the middle and say I still think the first half is so much better I got to give it at least an eight and a half for the whole thing okay good score yeah I think I'm right there with you the first half I actually give it a nine

and the second half I'm going to go a little bit lower or I'm going to go four I've probably seen the first half more than I've seen the second half. I just, it's hard for me to get through. I know, right? I don't know what that averages out. I guess like an eight, seven, eight for the entire. But the first half is definitely my favorite.

And again, Tim Curry put on an iconic performance. Yeah, I don't see. After that performance, everybody was wondering how this new guy is going to do. so I'm curious to hear what you guys have to say. And I'm not worried about spoilers because, like I said, I've read the book, so I don't think they've changed it too much. So I'll definitely stick around while you guys are talking about the new one, for sure. Basically the same story.

All right. Are you guys ready to move on to the new 2017 It? Oh, yeah. All right. So director was Andy Mochetti, also known for Mama. and not really too much more. Writers were Chase Palmer, Kerry Fukenaga, and Gary Dauberman.

So it was a pretty interesting trivia here. Bill Scarsguard had admitted that he was so into his performance as Pennywise that he would have constant nightmares during production. In the novel, Pennywise comes to town every 27 years to kill as many people as possible. The original TV miniseries was released in 1990, and of course, this remake was 2017 exactly 27 years later. I don't even think they did that on purpose, because they've been trying to make this movie for like five or six years now, haven't they? Yeah, that's a good point.

I believe so. All right, so listen to this, guys. Other actors who were rumored or considered to play Pennywise included, included, all right, I want to know what you guys think about all these. Johnny Depp. Yeah, no. Blondie how, no. Okay. All right.

How about Tilda Swinton? You know, she's an odd enough actress that I think in some way it might have worked. I don't think I've ever Go ahead. Yeah, she's got that

like creepy, authoritative thing kind of already anyway, so. Right. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't think I've ever seen her anything I didn't like as far as her performance. I don't know who he'll have been called, but I think it would have worked. Yeah. You don't know who, you can't think of who Tilda Swinton is?

No. Yeah, she always plays a weird, really bizarre character. She was in Dr. Strange most recently. Yeah. She was the bald master chick. Yeah, did you see that? check. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, and let's

see. The next, you guys know who Richard Armitage is? You know, I'm looking at the name, and it sounds familiar, but I'm not placing the face. I have no idea. That's what that was asked. I thought you were going to tell us.

Oh, yeah, how about Tom Hiddleston? Loki? Yeah. He needs stay playing Loki. Yeah. Right. It's hard to go with a big-name actor there, I think.

Yeah. How about Jackie Earl Haley? I don't know. I like him. Right. But. Oh, he was Roarshack. Oh, okay.

Yeah, but then again, he was Freddie Kruger. Yeah. I think he could have pulled it off. Yeah. He did good in the We make, so, yeah. Mm-hmm. How about Jim? How about Jim Carrey as Pennywise?

Oh, Jesus. Oh, yeah, he would do great because he did great in the mask. Right. Yeah, he'd be good. Was that an actual consideration? Yes. It's on the list. Wow. I kind of feel like he might have tried to do an over-the-top version of Tim Curry's character.

I kind of feel like he's over-the-top version of Ten Carrey on an everyday basis. It would have been a whole comedy movie. Yeah. What about Willem Defoe? I can see that. Yeah. I think it would have sucked, but. Mm-hmm.

Okay. Paul Giamatti? Uh, fine. No. I know. Yeah. I pass on him. All right, I got one more for you guys.

It was considered. You ready? Austin, you might like this choice. Channing Tatum. I like the song of that. That's Pennywise. Yeah, I could see him doing it. You think so?

Yeah, you do probably good. You never know. Super clowns matter space. Right, might surprise you. All right, well, that's the trivia. So, Austin, did you see this movie, or did you not get a chance yet to see it? I saw the trailer, but I didn't see the movie. Well, what do you think, based on?

on the trailer. Is this one you're looking forward to going to see? I'm looking forward to this bad because according to the 1990 version, this Pennywise is a lot creepier than Tim Curry, so

I cannot wait to watch it. Yeah, look that way. Yeah, I do apologize guys for such short notice on this show, but, you know, like since I'm leaving for a week, tomorrow we kind of had to do it early, so we didn't all get a chance to see it, but

Brian and Philip, you guys both checked it out, so I'm definitely curious to hear what you have to say. You want to go first? You want me to go first? Man, I'll go first. I really liked it, like a lot. It was kind of amazing. I thought that everybody in the movie did just a really stand-out performance from Scarsguard as it. who had this weird childish creepiness about him and I think totally pulled it off.

It's not Tim Curry. It's just different. And I think it's just as good. Yeah, he definitely made it his character, his version of the character. Yeah, which is cool. He's got this weird, like, creepy slick skin. It's disturbing. And then those, I mean, his eyes were creepy to begin with.

So that chick. Okay, the girl that plays Beverly, Sophia Lillis. I want y'all to remember that name. And I'm saying here first. I am right there with you. Yeah, dude, she is going to be huge. Yes, she is.

Amazing. She should have been the lead role in the whole movie. I mean, she kind of was, but she did amazing. Yes, I am right there with you. She is one of the breakout stars of this cast. Yeah. This is going to do for her what, what I think

Stranger Things has done for those kids, you know? And talk about Stranger Things, one of those kids is in this movie. Which one is he? Finn Wolf, Wolfford? Yes.

He was great, man. He played Richie. So his comic relief was like, genuinely a, like, 13-year-old funny kid, you know? everything that he said was just hilarious

and it was right on cue when he said it the timing was perfect they didn't like push it in there too hard to make the comedy happen like they've been doing a lot at a lot of these movies but it was very naturally timed comic relief and I think it worked well

the kid that play A was he was pretty funny the whole time too actually and he wasn't he wasn't supposed to be the funny character but he was a funny character and I think it even though he was a little obnoxious he looked like a little like

preppy saved by the bill kid but uh but he was really funny um not to mention that they stuck this right in the time frame where when it came out those are the kids that it was impacting so like I remember that piece of my childhood

man booking it with friends on bikes in the 80s so it was I thought they did a great job I thought there was some computer animation stuff maybe that was a little over the top. But still effective and scary. Yeah, I'm right there with everything you said. It's very hard because sometimes child actors are not that great,

especially when you got a group of them. Right. And I thought everybody was spot on. I did not have probably, I'm probably a little bit. bit with the CG. I had a little, little small little problem with. But as far as that, I had no problems with this movie. I love this movie. It, it was creepy. There was some scary moments. It was funny. Definitely, the language in it is probably one of the big parts of that R rating. Yeah, they have bombed more than once. And it was pretty hilarious every time.

Yes, it was. Finn Wolf Hard was definitely the comedy relief. And like you said, said, Philip, his timing was was right there when he would like have just, just a comment. You know, as the movie was going, you was kind of, you know, what's Richie going to say? You know, he's got to have a comment. And, you know, he was right there with it. Bill Scarsgaard, really, this was where I was kind of worried about the movie going in it. And I think as far as I'm concerned, he nailed Pennywise. He made it his own.

It was creepy. and just not only the way he spoke, but the way he moved was really disturbing at times. And I, this is up there of one of my favorite movies. I don't want to give too much away, but it's hard to watch. Georgie. So, yeah, I think, are you ready to get in the scars? Yeah, I think we should. I mean, are we doing spoilers for this one?

That's up to you guys, you know? I mean, if you guys want to cover spoilers, we will, you know. Like I said, I'm not too worried about hearing any because I'm real familiar with the source material. Well, yeah, I guess we'll go ahead and do stores. I'm going to give it a nine. I think it was as good as the original first half. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah, with the small little gripes about some of the CG, it just made. missed a 10. I'm at a 9.75. Wow. What? I, I, I, I am going to watch this the second time. I, I took my son last night and, um, taking my other kids. My, my youngest is obsessed with Pennywise. Wow. Yeah. And my score is only going to go up from here. Yeah. It is definitely, like, when it comes out on Blu-ray, I'm buying it first day. I love this movie. It just, it hit on the, all. the right notes with me. Austin. We're missing out, Austin. We should have, we should have gone to see the movie, man.

Yeah, but according to the trailer, I'm going to wait it as a 10. Okay. Nice. There's go. I don't blame you, man. I'm ready to go watch it again. Yeah, you guys are,

you guys are all on board. You want to get any, any spoilers? Uh, yeah, we'll do a quick spoiler alert, talk about a few of them. Okay. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right. You wanted to talk about, you wanted to talk about Georgie? That last scene with Georgie, and he's got, like, he's got no arm. And he's standing there talking to Bill the whole time. And, like, it was, it almost had me tearing up.

That's how good these kids were acting, or how well these kids were acting. Anyway. And then he pulls out his little cattle prod and shoots him in the head. Oh, man. Brutely. Yeah, that one got me. That's probably the biggest, like, surprise sort of, holy shit, I didn't see that coming moment. And speaking of Georgie with one arm, unlike the first movie where it was implied he got his arm ripped off,

you actually see him get his arm ripped off in this one. Yeah, he's crawling out of the storm drain, and the water's like washing away all the blood. It looks like a shark attack. Ouch. That was pretty amazing. Okay, so the CGI stuff that you had a problem with, was it all like just Pennywise doing weird things?

No, it was, um, okay, this is, uh, I really liked all, because, you know, there was different portrayals of it in this movie because, you know, it's based off each kid's fear. Right. There was a couple moments with the, like, what was it, the leopard? Oh, the, yeah. A little too CG at times. Yeah. And also the, I don't know what they're calling her, the crooked woman.

That painting? Yeah. Really cool looking, but at that time when it was actually moving, there was a couple times where it just a little too CG. I don't know. I thought they could have... I don't know how you could do practical effects, but... Well, you could have done something, and I think practical effects would have been creepier,

which with something like Pennywise, I think creepier is what you should be going for instead of let's make this larger than life monster. You know? Like make it look real and in front of you. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, I don't... I mean, I don't really want to spoil it.

much for you guys. I just, you know, those couple main points. I'm right there with you, Philip. That was a great scene at the end with Georgie and his brother. And like the girl that played up, Beverly Marsh, she,

she has to be a star based off her performance. Especially, there was very uncomfortable moments with her father in this movie. Yeah. And I don't know. I don't know about, I don't know about you.

Philip, but there was, my crowd was fully into this movie, you know, there was cheers, there was applause. Oh, yeah. Which I, I've seen this in IMAX. I've seen this in IMAX. I got stuck seeing at IMAX because every showing

last night sold out. Wow. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I went for the first one, and I bought tickets at like 8 o'clock in the morning, and we were at, like, the third row back way off in the corner. That was the best seats I could get.

You were a smart man for buying new tickets early. I showed up probably 20 minutes before the showing I was going to, and every single show in was sold out. And I had to come back like an hour and a half later and watch it. Only showing that didn't show out was IMAX. But it kind of added to it because the music, I liked the music, and it just added to the atmosphere of the movie. So very creepy.

Especially that opening scene, I don't know. what song the mom is playing on the piano, but it just added to the, the creepiness. I don't know if you remember, Philip, she was on the piano. I thought that was just the score of the movie,

but that was the mom in the house playing the piano. And I was like, that was really creepy what you're playing. And then, yeah, you never even really see the parents in this one at all. Like, there's,

there are very limited amounts of adult interaction, period. Right. And they're all, uh, except for what's his face is bitch-ass mom. Oh, yeah. And when you do meet adults in it, they're like really creepy.

Like, this whole town is like weird. Like, they're adults. And I just thought of it. And I just thought of it. We didn't even talk about Henry Bowers. Oh, yeah. That kid, he, I don't know if I could find the actor's name, but he played that role really well. That kid is a psycho.

Yeah. Yeah, he looked like a psycho. He played it up like a psycho. He's got this 80s, like, metal mullet. It's awful. They made fun of him at one point during the movie. Nicholas Hamilton played Henry Bowers, and he, they changed that scene up, too, from the original movie.

What happens to Henry Bowers? Do you think he's going to show up in the second movie? Oh, I don't know. pretty sure he's dead. If he shows up, he's not going to be alive. Yeah, that was at all, if he does, he's not going to be moving too well.

He shows up. Oh, that could be a creepy scene. He comes back all bent up and twisted. Yeah. Guys, I kind of don't really want to spoil this movie anymore. You guys need to watch it.

Yeah. We're definitely going to see it, aren't we, Austin? For sure. Yeah. If I can't watch it, I'll just watch it on some of the ego website. Oh, whoa. Hold on you. I don't know what you say. There you go.

All right, cool. Ah, fuck the police. Staying listening. All right. Well, I guess that's it for the movies then. Austin, we appreciate you coming on. And, hey, tell me again. Now, where can everybody find you?

And what are some of the interviews that you've done recently? They can find me on Facebook. Holy Night Podcast Group and Holy Night on Facebook, my Facebook page. And it can with me on my Twitter account on Holy Night. And I recently had an interview with a lot of people. My biggest was Gabriel Stone, who is related to Dee Wallace. We talked about, we talked about her mom. and Death House and a lot of big other movies she's being in.

So it was really, very, very awesome to have a person who's with ageing to D.Warrs. And also we had a writer from iHawor.com on the show. We talked about hauling stuff, but it was really, really cool interview. And you've had some actress interviews too lately, haven't you, over the last couple of months? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're, I think, did you interview Laura Jean Mummerd, or did you just talk with her through Facebook? We, I think I talked to her through Facebook. I can't remember exactly.

Okay, all right, yeah, she's, she's pretty hot. And a really good horror actress. So I know she's in a safe place that's going to be coming out pretty soon. Yeah, actually, actually, mine was on my show also. She was in the same place. Yeah, so we, I interviewed her, and her brother is going to be on the show very soon also. Okay, cool. Yeah, she's a pretty big name, dude.

She wasn't she in all through the house? I think so. Mm-hmm. Yeah, she's super hot. I think of some pretty decent interviews, yeah. Super hot. Very, I couldn't cute. I mean, I was sweating the whole time.

Well, who wouldn't be? All right. Well, cool. As always, listeners, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com. Be sure to follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Podbean. Just do a search for the Horror Returns.

And look for us on iTunes. If you like us, rate us and review us. if you don't like us, don't. Next week, which is not going to be on time because I'll be out of town. This next one may not come out to like the Tuesday or Wednesday, I'm thinking, but we will do it. It's because it's definitely a movie.

I'm looking forward to. I think you guys are, too, the new Darren Aronofsky film, Mother. Yeah, interesting trailer that played before it in my theater. Yeah. It basically told you this is going to be the sickest, most of stuff. movie that you'll see and after after the movie go purchase your tickets for mother that was the trailer basically yeah it looks good I'm sure our our 15 fans will are get over as being watching yeah for sure are you Brian you still thinking

Adam Wingard's the guest for the movie I mean initially you know I told you it gave me that Rosemary's baby by but we've already done that one, and I cannot think of anything. So, yeah, the guest. Cool. All right. Another movie about uninvited guests.

How about that? Thank you. All right. So until the horror returns again, good night.