The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #72: Run Lola Run (1998) & Happy Death Day (2017) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: April 9, 2022

We get stuck in a time loop with Happy Death Day and Run Lola Run. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A

victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify go, welcome, you have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. I'll try to get through the intro. For all of you who delight and dread,

fantasize about fear and glorify gore. Welcome home. This is the podcast that proves the horror never ends. Each episode, we seek out and review a brand new horror movie, and then we go back and find a classic word. work with similar themes. We do include spoilers for the new film. However, we're going to wait until the very end of the show to spoil the new feature, and we will let you know before we do so with a spoiler alert. If you don't wish to hear the spoilers, just turn us off at that point,

and we promise you won't miss a thing. We generally assume you guys have already seen the classic film, so we're always going to have spoilers when we talk about anything that has been out for at least one year. The other thing that we may do from time to time is use a few four-letter words. This is a horror podcast, and horror movies tend to be R-rated, and you guys can pretty much expect us to be, too. I'm Lance, and with me, as always, are my co-host, Brian and Phillip. How's it going, guys?

It's going good. Hello, I'm doing okay. Yeah. Well, I hope you guys get that house closing. done, Phil? Yeah, I hope so too. I'm running out of paper plates, so we've

been living out of boxes for like a month and all our shits all packed up. Oh, boy. Well, I laugh, but I know where you are. We had to live in a hotel for three months one time. We sold the old house and hadn't gotten the new and built yet,

so it happens. Yeah, I don't do it. Well, that's true. At least we're not there, although we may be before too long. Yeah. Well, we could be in Alaska. What do you think about that, Brian? You don't want to be here. It's super cold.

It's snow's coming. I feel it. Winter's coming. I feel it. Any day. Any day now. Well, it was 93 degrees here today. Yep. Well, Brian, why don't you start off with our cool of the week? I've been doing the 31

days, so I've been watching a lot of shit, but I am going to pick the babysitter, which came out on Netflix. Oh, okay, Friday. Decent movie. It was pretty fun. You know, typical

crazy babysitter, you know, I'm not going to give too much away because it gets into some other stuff, but I thought there was a lot of funny parts. It was kind of gory, more gory than I expected. It's always a good thing. Yeah, a lot better than I expected from a director that goes by Mick G.

Okay. I've only seen, the only thing I've seen from him is a Terminator Salvation, and that's not one of my favorites. So, but decent, decent Netflix watch. I recommend it. Man, I didn't really watch a whole lot this week. I did start on lore. The Amazon. series?

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We watched the trailer for last week. Yeah, it's not bad. It's like documentary style and they go over basically the history of real stuff. Like the first one, spoiler alert, is about vampires, but they don't really tell you that until the very end. Oh, okay. But they give you like kind of the history of like the original.

vampire story and how that went down and while superimposing some documentary shit on top of it. It's not bad. It's a little slow. It's a little more boring than I wanted it to pee, but it's okay. I guess my real

cool of the week is going to be Astros. Yeah, buddy. What up now, Yankees? So, yeah, I don't keep up with sports too much anymore, man. What? There was one I was a huge sports fan, and one year I had made a commitment. I was going to watch every single Astros game on TV. About, I don't know, halfway through the season, we were just sitting there,

and A.J. turns to me, and she says, are you going to really seriously dominate the TV literally every fucking night for four more months? I'm like, all right, that's, that's it. Because I tend to go to, I go full into anything, whatever I'm into, you know? But so they're... It's a whole lot more exciting during the playoffs. Well, so you say they're doing really well then. Yeah, this is the A-L-CS, man.

This is one more step to the playoffs, and they're already up two games to none on the Yankees. Wow. Awesome. Next Top World Series. Cool. All right. Yeah. Man, cool of the week. I don't know. See, I'm having trouble with that myself, because I haven't really... haven't been able to watch too much this week.

And as a matter of fact, you two guys are going to have to go off on your own again on the new movie this week because I didn't get a chance. But I guess my cool of the week would be the Renaissance Festival. I don't know if any of you listeners live in an area where they have any kind of a Renaissance Fair or festival. But it's cool to go. But when you go and actually camp out there, it takes it to a whole new level, right? Oh, yeah. Well, and I think that's, I mean, I'm sure that there's other places that camp, but I mean, that's, that's one of the things that's kind of specific to Houston. Camping gets pretty exciting. I'm really irritated I didn't get to go this year.

Hey, year ain't over yet, man. There's still, what, six or seven more weeks of it. That's true. So we're inviting friends down. We'll make it happen. Yeah, see what happens. All right. You guys are. ready to move on to some headlines? Blade Runner, 249, came in at 158.5

million worldwide, at $150 million dollar budget. Okay. Most of that is international. Ah. Didn't do so well here, stateside.

Yeah, that's surprised me a whole lot. Yeah. Almost a three-hour movie. That's a little much for these, United States Yeah.

We don't have a whole lot of patience for that kind of thing anymore, do we? They didn't really market it as a, you know, summer blockbuster or anything. True. Yeah. Any Blu-ray collectors out there, Target will be having a special edition, Stranger Things, season one. It's going to be in a VHS-style packaging, so if anybody wants to check that out, it's going to be October 17. Mm-hmm.

VHS will come back before too long. Watch. You think so? I don't know. Records did. Yeah, you know, retro's real big now, everything retro.

Sure. Okay. Stephen King's, Mr. Mercedes, has been renewed for a season two. Okay. I never watched it. happy to hear it. I just, I'm only a couple episodes. I've got a lot of catching up to do still.

Yeah, I'm still only a couple in two. Mm-hmm. Heard good things. John Carpenter is officially going to score the upcoming Halloween sequel slash reboot coming out next year. So, that'll be super cool. What's the last thing he did? That's cool. Music-wise or movie? uh movie john carpenter i know he's been touring with his band right now oh really yeah uh movie i don't know

i have to look that up i don't remember the last thing the last thing i seen that i remember that he did was the ward yes i do remember i do remember that that way was pretty boring if i were correctly i mean i seen john carpenter and then um what is the actress's name that was in it she's married to Johnny Depp or about to be divorced, whatever her name is. Oh, shit. Well, whoever she is, I've seen that she was in it. No fucking idea. Yeah, she's pretty hot.

So I was like, I'll check it out. And the movie was boring as hell. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. I don't know. I mean, he hadn't done anything spectacular in a while. Yeah. I mean, still a legend, though. Absolutely.

owner of the nerds podcast and Talking Dead host Chris Hardwick has signed a three-picture deal with Blumhouse To do what? Something about that. Yeah, it says Hardwick will be producing Blumhouse genre films through his newly formed company Spitball and will be directing at least one of them and it's said that Chris Hardwick is a diehard horror fan.

Really? That makes sense. he's got his little hands into everything. I really like the dude just kind of as a person. He seems pretty cool and motivated. So we'll see what he can do. I mean, this is, you get too many plates spinning at once, and eventually they're all going to fall down, though.

And with that being said, that is all the news we have. Wow, man, not much. So it is a slow Well I think we're going to make up for it in trailers, Brian So why don't you Why don't you take our Come with us and take our little trip down to the trailer part, man First of all, we're going to start with his Future Man

Starring Josh Hutcherson This was a new show produced by Seth Rogan and Evan Goldberg What did you guys think of this one? I would definitely say that it started out looking like something I've seen before and then when it said, wait a minute, this is the same exact plot line of, you know, whatever else it was, I'm like, okay, I think they're onto something here. What was the name of the movie?

It looks like it's going to be a lot of fun. The plot line that they're stealing? What was the main thing? The last Starfighter. The Last Starfighter, yeah. He said, that's literally the same exact storyline from the last Starfighter. But it's got kind of a comedy thing to it. Yeah, it looks pretty interesting.

Great, man. And it's going to be what it, I'm assuming he goes into the future as well as different decades in the past. I believe so. I mean, T.C. So they've kind of got unlimited potential here. Mm-hmm. Yeah, because they got to stop that outbreak that came about by, what was it, a herpy medication? Yeah, the guy's, the guy is going to invent a herpes medication that's going to destroy the world.

So their goal is to either kill him as a baby. Terminator style or or stop him from getting herpes. So they try to cockpock this guy. Yeah. Right. Yeah, it looks like it could be fun. It's going to be 13 episodes

and it's going to come out on Hulu November 14th. Ah, okay. Is it a Hulu exclusive? Probably. What was that? Is it a Hulu exclusive? Yes. Okay.

I'll check it out, man. It looks interesting. And we're going to move on to another Hulu exclusive Marvel's runaways. I am not going to go through this cast list because it is long. Right. And you've never heard of anybody anyway. No, I haven't. It's a new Marvel show, 10 episodes. not too familiar with the runaways,

but the trailer does got me a little intrigued. Apparently, this team is formed because their parents are super evil and it looks like into some cult shit. Okay. Yeah, it looks weird. And it looks like it might be a little bit darker than people expected it to be.

Right. So, yeah, they're going kind of off the rails with these superhero. things though and I feel like every time they do that it doesn't really work so we'll see how this one goes yeah and right now

when it comes to Marvel doing TV shows I'm not really on board I'm looking for something different because that inhuman shit was it's not getting any better I'm watching it just because it's connected to the universe

so I want to be filled in if anything is going to be brought up later, but it is not fun watching that show. Are you going to stick with it since you know it's only one season? Are you going to go ahead and jump off the ship now? I'm going to stick with it. It's from what I was told.

It's only like six episodes or something. Right. But it's a hard watch for me personally. I don't know. I heard some people out there like it. I don't know why, but definitely I hope Runaways is is a change of pace, so...

Right. Got a release date on Hulu, November 21st. Yeah, I'm a... Dude, at some point, I'm afraid I'm going to end up... One of these shows is going to be good enough, if not this one, another one we're about to talk about tonight, but eventually I'm going to have to put the...

Plop the, you know, $6 or $7 a month down again and get Hulu again. So I used to have it before we had cable. And then we got... we got direct TV again and it was like well why get Hulu with you know if we've got direct TV because all the channels come on it but now there's so many good Hulu originals it's like that's

not really a valid argument anymore you know. Yeah I guess we can talk about probably the most interesting one at least for me another Hulu exclusive Stephen King's Castle Rock. That's the one that's the one I'm looking forward to man

produced by J.J. Abrams, and this one I will go through the cast list. Very good cast. Melanie Linsky, Jane Levy, Sissy Spasek. Is she going to play Carrie? There's been some speculation. Okay. There's going to be some connections in the Stephen King universe.

Bill Scarsguard, Pennywise, himself. I bet somebody said that he's not going to play Pennywise or something. Let's see. Scott Glenn. Scott Glenn and Terry O'Kwin are also audition. What is Scott Glenn not in these days, man? They guys shouldn't have been everything. He's in the leftovers, Daredevil.

There's two or three other things I've seen him pop up in the last couple of months or so. The old man. Yeah, he's busy, man. He's definitely not running out of parts, that's for sure. Yeah. So what did you guys think of Castle Rock? I'm looking forward to you. I don't know.

I love all the Stephen King's stories, and I think it's based on short stories, right? I believe so. See, I don't really know anything about it, and the preview did not help with that at all. Right. Didn't tell you much, did it? No, it didn't tell me anything. It was like, here's a wide scene of a dude who looks surprised and astounded. Here's another one of a different dude that looks surprised and astounded.

And it was, you know, they gave you this hodgepodge of different scenes that don't make a whole lot of sense. Until the end, there's a little like Shawshank bumper sticker on something. Right. Right. Department of, main Department of Corrections, Shawshank Prison. Yeah. And I was like, oh, hey, I think I know what they're talking about there. Right.

But the rest of it was, I mean, I'll watch the show, but they didn't, they didn't give you much. touched a nibble on here. Didn't give you my... Well, that's kind of got me intrigued, man. You know? Yeah. This was pretty much a teaser because this show's not going to come out

until next year. All right. Well, I'll probably throw my money down for Hulu when it does. All right. Well, they're trying to get Netflix. Oh, big time. Yeah.

Big time. Yeah, from what I'm hearing, Netflix better stop purchasing all these movies and TV shows. Yeah. Pull back a little bit. Right. Yeah, they are spending millions and millions.

So you're saying they need more, they need to do more things like the babysitter and stranger things, huh? Yeah, because from what I read, um, this next, uh, Scorsese film, uh, they paid like $100 million for it. That's crazy, man. I mean, I'm interested in it, you know, they're getting Al Pacino and De Niro and, uh, Pesci back together, but $100 million. dollars. Yeah, but that's going to be a, I guarantee you it won't just release on Netflix. It'll be a theater

movie first. Yeah, because they're going to want to go after the awards and stuff, so they got to release it. Okay, we're going to move on to the next trailer Mayhem, starring Stephen Yoon. People know them as Glenn,

and Samarrow Weeeming, directed by Joe Lynch. A lot of People might remember Joe Lynch from Gremlins and stuff like that. Sure. Can I say Belko Experiment? Yeah. Is it set in the same universe as the Belko experiment? Not that I can.

They do that on purpose or? I don't know. I think, you know, every few years there always seems to be two similar movies coming out. So I think that's what's happening here. This one is basically, seems like some kind of outbreak happens. Okay. Yeah. Shades of the Walking Dead with Glendaya, right?

Yeah. It's like the Belko experiment, but everybody's fucking crazy. Mm-hmm. Because of some sort of virus. But it looks cool. I mean, I'll totally watch it. And I saw some advertisement on, was it Facebook or something that it has a, right now, it has close to 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Really? Okay. So, I mean, that might get it. Next month, it's going to be on BOD November 10th. Okay. So, I mean, it looks like it's going to be some fun. I mean, I like the Belvoir experiment. I did too.

It'll probably be right on par with it, I bet. I think it's going to be fun and interesting, but, you know, it's not going to go down in history. Probably a spot-on description there, Philip. Man. Okay. We're going to move on to the next one. Hostel, starring Brittany Ashworth and Javier Boutte. Okay.

Not hostile. Hostile. Gotcha. For a minute, I was thinking, wait a minute. Did I see the wrong, did I watch the wrong trailer? Yeah. This one looks like the run of the mill post-apocalyptic movie. Oh, yeah.

Probably, you know, I'll probably catch you when it comes on Netflix or something. Oh, but this one had like the creepy female zombie thing that was walking around. Oh, yeah. I'm down, dude. This is my genre right here. I like this one. It looked to me a little bit like the bad batch or scenes of it. The way it was photographed kind of did, but I don't know if it has anything to do with that or not.

You just watched that recently, didn't you? Not too long ago. A couple of months back. Did you like it? It was okay. It was definitely not as good as I was expecting it. It kind of turned into a love story at the end, and I was like, oh, boy. It didn't make a lot of sense, you know.

So, okay, basically somebody is part of a group that just fucking cut my fucking, you know, arm and leg off and ate it and fucking kept me captive, and I'm going to fall in love with this asshole, you know? Didn't make a lot of fucking sense to me, but, you know. It was like, they swung real hard at it, and that ball just went foul. Yeah, that's right. Aquaman. Yeah, where they lost me was Keanu Reeves. Oh.

Because that guy was living really good in this wasteland where apparently he can get anything you want. Definitely wasn't his best role. What were you saying, Phil? I said Yeah, they swung real hard at it And it just went foul I felt like Just a bit outside

Let's see what happens with this one Right Hostile does not have a release date yet Hmm Okay Let's see Stranger Things Season 2 final trailer

Just dropped Um Not gonna run through the whole cast of this pretty much everybody returning from the first season with added people, Sean Aston, Paul Reiser, are going to be new cast members in this season. Right. I mean, it's nothing much to say. I'm total, I'm counting down the days.

I am all in on Stranger Things. Yeah. I really kind of wish they, this was very 11 heavy, this, uh, trailer. Look that way, didn't it? And I kind of just, I don't know, I feel like trailers lately, they kind of put too much into it. I mean, we all knew she was going to come back with the teaser at the last episode of last

season. So I didn't need to see her all over the trailer. Right. She has different hair. They have to show you. True. I didn't recognize her at first with the hair. I mean, I'm definitely down with it.

Stranger Things, I mean, you can't go wrong. Everybody's going to watch this thing. Of course, yeah. The first one was such a success. How can you not? Yeah. Well, I'd rather see this than, you know,

some retread, you know, Godfather 12 or whatever, you know? Yeah. Goodfellas Part 6 or whatever the hell they're trying to come out with for $100 million. Yeah, and then instead of the eight episodes, this is going to be pushed to nine. So getting an extra episode this season.

Hmm. Okay. But still not too many. I like it. Yeah. October 27th, I'm sure everybody knows we've been talking about it. And by October 28th, we'll be talking about it. Yeah, because I know I'm definitely binge watching it.

Oh, is that the premiere date, 28th? Yes. 27th. 27th. Okay, cool. Okay. On to our two biggest trailers of the week. The first one we're going to talk about is the new mutants,

starring Anya Taylor Joy Maisie Williams Charlie Heaton and Alice Braga I am excited about this one What about you Phil? Yeah I am too I think it's

Although I still think they're going Totally off the rails on these superhero movies This one at least They took a little different approach to it It looks It looks more like a horror movie you know. Oh, and I don't know if I like that, to be honest with you.

I read The New Mutants Comics from issue number one. Oh. And, yeah, I mean, they always hate kind of like a weird vibe to it. Kind of almost semi-horror, but this, to me, this just kind of looked a little bit over the top, man. Like it's trying to be a completely different kind of movie, which, you know, obviously we're all going to give it a try, right? I mean, the director, Josh Boone, that's the horror aspect is what he was trying to go for. What is, what has he done before? The fault of our stars.

Are you fucking kidding me, dude? Yeah, no. Seriously? It wasn't, that wasn't a bad movie. It wasn't horror. Wait, dude, seriously? Yeah. This is the guy you're excited to see his new movie? I mean, you're putting your faith in this asshole.

Seriously, man? You know, I am, when it comes to the X-Men, see, I was the who posted a comic, Kevin, he said the same thing. This is not what he remembered in the comics. Right. And I think they need to do something different. Fox does with their X-Men property. Because when it comes to their main X-Men movies, I think they try to adapt what's on the

comics and they just, they're not getting it right. Because next year, besides this, we're getting Deadpool 2 and a new X-Men movie. I'm excited for this and Deadpool 2, not the new X-Men movie. Okay. Well, I'll be excited when they reboot that

shit. Yeah, I like what they're doing with what they did with Deadpool, what they did with Logan. They're doing something different here. I like the cast. To me, like, what is her, Anya Taylor Joy, I think when we talk about Scream Queens, we're going to be talking about her because, I mean, she was in the witch.

She was in the witch. She was in the witch. I mean, it wasn't a great movie, but Morgan, she was in that. That's right. It's okay. Well, and look, they've got Aria Stark in here, man. Yeah. How can you go wrong?

Well, let's ask Josh, I mean, I'm sure he'll answer your question for you when we see this movie. I mean, they also got Charlie Heaton. He was the older brother in Stranger Things. Okay. Well. Oh, okay. You know what? This scares me, but not as much as the other two things he's announced to be directing that are coming up.

Oh, man, he's supposed to be, have you ever heard of Lissy's story, which is a Stephen King book? No. Okay, he's tied to that. But this one, this is what kills me because this is my favorite King novel of all time. He's tied to do a new version of the stand. Oh, nice. He better pull it out for new mutants guys, or I'm going to be fucking pissed. I mean, the fault of our star, I mean, maybe he had to do something like that to get his foot in the door.

I don't, I mean, I don't know. I've seen it. I mean, I didn't enjoy it. But it wasn't the worst thing I've ever seen. Right. It was, I mean, it was a cheesy, for what it was, though, for that genre of movie, it wasn't bad. I think, yeah, maybe he had to pull that out to. to get into the stuff that he wanted to do, you know?

Beware, folks. You heard it here first. Anytime Phillips says, for what it was, you can bet there's a fucking turd on the way. Yeah, that's true. I'm a little more positive than most of them.

All right. We got this coming Friday, the 13th, April, next year. Oh, wow. Wow, okay. Ooh, what's our next one? Oh, probably the big one of the week.

Star Wars, the Last Jedi. Never heard of it. What Star Wars exactly? A bunch of people fighting up in outer space or what? Yeah, it's a fairly new franchise that came out. Okay. Directed by Ryan Johnson and starring everybody, basically. Let's see who's new to the castles.

for this one. Benicio del Toro and Laura Dern, I know, are the new actors showing up in this one. Huh, okay. And as from the trailer, we get Mark Hamill actually saying stuff. Right. That's a good thing.

Mm-hmm. I think there's a lot of misdirection in the trailer. Oh, I do, too. Yeah. Which there's, there's, I kind of want those things to happen. I'm sorry, but I think it will just add, like, I'm sure we're talking about the same thing. The Kylo Ren about to fire on his mother.

Mm-hmm. I think it will add depth to his character. Well, and then at the end, when she's, when, when, when Ray is taking his hand, right? It's what it looks like. That's what it looks like, but you notice they film them. They just filmed her the scene with her. and then all of a sudden they show the scene with him. And it just kind of makes it look like it's together.

But I'm with you, man. I think that's some serious misdirection. But any way you look at it, I mean, this trailer looks dark as shit, guys. Yeah. So I hear, I heard a theory on that. And I mean, it's just a fan theory, but, you know, it's fun to read the fan theories on stuff like this and Game of Thrones that just take over the world when they come out. So what if? Ray goes to the dark side.

No. And Kylo Rin has to turn around and be the good guy. Wow. Except that they're so female heavy on this hero thing that they've got going. Female Empowerment. That I don't think they can do that. I would love to see her go to the dark. I would actually, I would love to see them both on the dark side.

At least just temporarily, right? It's just left to stop them. Fucking Luke. Wow, man. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm just being dark here, but I just, everything that they're telling us, that might be misdirection,

I kind of wanted to happen. Mm-hmm. But that would be cool, right? If Ray goes to the dark side and she's like, because she, she has potential to be more badass invader if she wanted to. Sure. Yes. And what else we got?

We got Captain Fasma actually doing something in this movie. Actually doing something, huh? Yeah. I thought she was stuck in a trash compactor or something like that. You know what? She's got her own comic book run now. And I guess the first issue picks up how she gets out. I heard it's pretty good.

I heard it's pretty good. Makes sense. Wow. Type that one. into IMDB and the whole page goes Star Wars. Ah, okay. Well, you know, I got a bad feeling that if Ray goes to the dark side, it's going to break Denny Lewis's heart.

Yeah, well, hey, nobody ever had a problem with a bad girl. Well, let's try. Yeah, Denny, tell us what you think about that, man. Maybe you might call for a special episode of after midnight, you know? I think it's only right we have him and possibly Kevin on here. They're probably, at least for me, the two of the biggest Star Wars fans I know. Oh, for sure.

That'd be fun. We may have a Star Wars spectacular, like a two episode in the works, if you guys are down for it. Because Jay's reached out as well. He's interested, too. I'm probably down. Let's do it. Yeah, this could be a good one, guys. And if anybody didn't know, I'm probably sure everybody is or does know, December 15th is the day.

And many people have already purchased their tickets. Yes, I've seen that on Facebook. And that is our last trailer. All right, cool. Well, Phil, I know we got quite a bit of listener feedback, but there's actually quite a bit that I wasn't able to. get onto the template. I don't know if you've got access to the horror returns group, man. Maybe we could go through even more than

we've got on there if you're able to pull it up. If not, we'll cover it next week. No big deal. Let me cover what we got on the page right now and then we'll see what we can get to. Sounds good, man. We've got quite a bit of listener feedback. Sean Pipes, he's in there multiple times. He says, look what I got

in the mail yesterday. My new favorite shirt. Look at this logo or love the logo, just wanted to give a big thank you to you guys for sending it out. Keep doing what you do. Always look forward to your podcast. All right. Thank you, Sean. So I guess he was the first one to get a T-shirt. Check that out. I think Carl's put something on there as well.

Yeah, so we got, regarding Creep 2, Darren Wilson says it's kind of impatient, but even though I've got Netflix. I'm going to go see it in theaters on the 21st. Well, there's that. There you go. Regarding tragedy girls, B. Germain says, I saw it at the film

festival two months back. It's pretty awesome. Regarding Hello, Mary Lou, Prom Night 2, Patrick Clear. Patrick Lear says, in watching some of these old favorites, I am realizing what I'm

what's missing from today's horrors. They need to bring back the gratuitous nude scenes. Yes, they do. That's true, man. There's not a lot of new horror movies that have like because, you know, there's a sex scene, there's some nudity, and you're like, okay,

they're definitely going to die. Fucking scream. Screw it up for everybody. No, the one I can think of that had a really great opening scene where the chick took off all her clothes and jumped in the water and went swimming was the remember the Friday the 13th remake came out a few years back the one where Jason was a pot dealer

that was pretty I remember that one being pretty juicy can't think of anymore since then though can you we need to get more back to that I think maybe that that'll be in the works for some new stuff apparently in Ash versus the Evil Dead season three season three already Jesus Christ I need to catch up with this show yeah there's a scene that tops the infamous deadite colon fight Jim Cupco finally almost caught up with the show

this scene was outstanding I can only imagine what will top this I do remember the scene in the morgue right Yeah. Right. I don't watch it. Okay, so here's a person after my own heart. Regarding Blade Runner 2049,

Katie Dillon says, boo. Let me address it. This is my sister-in-law. Boo right back to you. I am pretty sure you didn't even watch the first one. Oh, there you have. Yeah. And if you didn't watch the first one.

the first one, then this one doesn't really catch you up on it before it starts and it's still like three hours worth of wow that's kind of like the whole that's my version of the Blade Runner soundtrack.

That's pretty good, man. Pretty spot on. We're getting trained to Busan. Kevin Ness, of course, says hella good and sad. Kevin He needs t-shirts made. Yeah. For which board?

No, for hella good. Oh, that's a great idea, man. With like a, like a Kevin Nez, like a silhouette on it or something. Yeah. Oh, wow. I'm right. I'd buy it. I would too.

Regarding cult of Chucky, Sean Pipes again, says, well, yeah. But it's a fun turd. It's like a turd with sprinkled. Fuck you, Sean. It was fun. It was shitty fun. Well, I guess that's the definition of it. Well, no.

I guess you would call it. A lot of confetti. Oh, boy. Regarding House's October built, Ryan Stevens loved the first one. Can't wait to see the second. And Sean Pipes also. really like the first one.

Yeah, guys, see the second one. I'd say it's as good as the first one. It's a little different type to it, but it's fun, you know? It's fun and scary. It's cool. Brian. Brian put up the new trailer for New Mutants, and yeah, here we go. Carl McCullough says,

interesting approach, making it a horror movie as opposed to a superhero flick. I need to see more, especially how they portray their powers. Hmm. Pat Miller says, what will be interesting is the transition. Where do they plan to go with this? Hmm. Looking down the road. Samantha Bean says badass.

There you go. That says it all. Yeah. I disagree, but... I thought the trailer was cool. We'll see how I go. We'll see. Yeah.

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or jump on iTunes or whatever of the podcast format that you like because we're probably on there. But leave my interview because we love those. Yes, very much so. It's Zach back, sir, at the Nights of the Drunk Watch. We're back here for our after-talk recap of American Horror Story episode six titled Midwest Assassin.

Woo-hoo! We do not say the title. Anyway, the episode. No, they didn't. No, they didn't. No, they didn't. No, well, happens. Okay, we're going to introduce ourselves really quickly.

I'm Zach. I'm Adi. I'm Andrew. And back there is Mark. He may or may not join in. I'm Mark. I might add a comment or two. I never have drinks for this.

We are the nights of the drunk watch. And now we're talking. begin. Adi is a little inebriated tonight. I've been drinking a bit tonight, folks. If you're listening to us on the horror returns, we are minus a Kate, and we're minus a crystal, but we did gain an Audi. Yes, I'm back, and

I have taken notes this time, so hopefully the lovely Kate will not be disappointed in my note taking. Yes, I think I did. Let's start a timer. I did. It started. Okay, so let's start. I'm not going to go into the first bit, because we're going to talk about that at the end. So

first thing we have is a note, is Allie's balls drop Yeah I guess Kind of sort of maybe Yeah I feel like they dropped a little tonight

I think they did I think somewhere she realized I guess last episode That she has been This is all This is all fake This has all been a I mean

In the course In the course of this episode She went from like Locking every door in her house Which she's been doing For six episodes to taking a lady on the run and like going out and reaching out to people and trying to make a difference. Well, she's really standing up for herself now.

Yeah. And she's able to say, no, this is real. No, this is fake. Yeah. She's able to delineate fiction from nonfiction. Is this supposed to give us like a seizure? I don't know. It's really empowering, though, that she's finally like not being the character we've hated this whole season.

And she's quite. That's my problem. It's like when we were introduced to Allie, she went straight to the crazy whiny, what the heck is wrong with you, woman, and so we didn't care about her. And she'd been more like in her marriage, oh, I've got some phobias, but I'm dealing with it. Do I just get a little under there? Yeah. To where we like, we kind of, we learn to like her. and then as she started getting crazier because she got hit by clowns

and then it aggravated her holes phobia we would have been felt sorry for her but we went straight to her being aggravated and that aggravated me I don't know about the rest of you no I know but I think that was a point that was a point of the character was you're not supposed to like oh she's just a whiny white woman well I think I think Ryan Murphy is creating these archetypes that we like jump to conclusions about other people as you know like the whole snowflake concept and the whole like anti-eligals concept like he's creating these archetypes that exist in our mind and in american culture and then he's starting to turn them on their head a little bit at least with alley he is i feel like he took her from being a whiny snowflake that we all hated to somebody we were really rooting for in one episode but that also gave us it gave her room to grow because now we know that majority of what she was whining about

was actually real and they were purposefully doing these things to elicit that reaction so she's not completely crazy she's just falling she's just gullible I guess but now she's not so gullible

even though she doesn't know the whole story yet yeah I don't feel like she can be as easily manipulated and a good example of that is the scene she has with Dr. Cheyenne yeah where she's like Dr. Vincent sorry where she's just like fuck you

Yeah, she was able to read the situation and be like, no, you're trying to put me in the hospital. You're trifling. Yeah, but she still doesn't know the whole, she thinks she knows everything, but she was, as we learned at the end, which I'm sure we'll get to, she was actually playing along with what they want her to do.

Yeah. It was like a mouse trap. They were just guiding her through the names. We'll talk more about that later, but they are still manipulating her, so that's true. Well, if we get back to Dr. Vincent L.S.H., I remember it. Yes, we'll talk about that a little later. The next bit that I have that's big is Kai's competitor,

the lady who is now dead in one episode. She showed up and then it was dead. I don't remember her name either. She introduced herself. She's on here so we can't get names. Yeah, I don't know her name. I have a comment about that alleged suicide. Well, you're on that, right?

Yes. Okay. Well, they're trying to set up a suicide, but okay, but like do you think the cops are not going to notice that like all of these windows are smashed in that someone clearly broke in okay to but i mean they might have clean that up but one of them is a cop detective ralph is a cop so he was there she's like i got this yeah and that's that's the that's part of the problem is the cops are in on it everybody is a little corner of every world that's corrupt yeah the media is in on it so i guess that speaks to kai and how smart he was about choosing his people because Meadow in her conversation with Allie talks about how he has to choose you. But he's not choosing

people that are going to follow him in a cult. He's choosing tools that he can use to advance himself. I think Meadow had it right. She was right on the nail when she was leaving saying this is all about you. Right. We're just the tools and that's what everyone's just a tool.

Harrison's the muscle. But they all believe in them. Detective Rolf is the cops, Beverly's the media, Meadow was, I don't know, she was... Monkers. And Ivy is his gateway into fear. And I think that brings us to our next bit. So we didn't talk much about Kai's competitor,

but we can talk about her when we get to the next bit. But the next bit is, is Ivy hating Allie about baby Oz. I can't talk about this. I just, I have such... It's really upsetting. Like, it's... I'm glad, I mean, It's good writing.

Yes. Don't get me wrong. That's great. This is the thing. I don't know if it's something we have to go back and check. So Allie gave birth to Oz, but she talks about how, Ivey talks about how she couldn't do it because of her endometriosis. Does that mean that Oz is her biological child, that Ali was a surrogate? We don't have that information.

Like, if Ali was like. Well, that's true. I think that information in my mind. It might have been in that scene, but we don't watch closely enough. Yeah. We were two drops for that. What would want to do if they want? So you think they took Ivy's egg?

Ivy's egg and she couldn't carry a child. And then since they impregnated Allie, and Allie was a surrogate. You think that Oz's dad matters? Could be. It could be. We have enough episodes. It could be. Yeah.

That's true. She wants to carry. I mean, I guess being a mother is a very, something she should. wanted to do. If it's from a sperm bank, I mean, if it's from a sperm bank, I mean, how are we going to know? Yeah, I don't think, we'll see. We'll see. I'm not saying no, that that's not going to come into play because good writing would bring

it into play, but then, like, it wouldn't be bad writing if they did not get into play. If it doesn't affect the total plotline. It's an existing variable that we don't really have anything to say about, but. But just the the, the pure resentment that she

had, the contempt she had towards. It's, I Ali, just because she carried the baby. She didn't get to... But it's really fascinating. And then, like, she wanted to feed the baby. And, and Ellen was being a little bit of a bitch about this. Yeah, but they could have had a conversation and avoided this whole cult joining thing.

Yeah, well, like, like, she's like, okay, just, like, pump her and then let me give him a bottle. No, he doesn't want a bottle. Just give her to me. Give him to me. I mean... But I agree with... She's right there. Yeah.

You know, I just saw... See, pumping as, like, when I am not available, there is... You know what I mean? Like, I just have to. The flip side of it was is you are my lover and I will help, you know, I get to feed the baby all the time. Let's get some pumps milk so you can feed the baby. I'm starting to see the real snowflake is Ivy. Yeah, I have to agree with that.

She was triggered by, she said my baby, but it's really my baby too. It's like, but that's. But I also think it's a, like, in terms of storytelling, I think it's a really interesting aspect of that type of relationship. that I never really considered. You know, like, as a woman, especially, you know, this feeling exists. Women who are barren have resentment towards women who, not all of them, but some of them have resentment towards women who can bear. It's a natural feeling, how they deal with that or how they react to that, you know,

is up to each person. But that feeling exists. And then in terms of a, like, lesbian relationship is just really fascinating. It's an aspect that I never really consider. that's really brilliant for Brian Murphy to grab a hold of. I don't think it's fair to her to put all that on the body. No, no, it's totally

not fair. I hate my wife. No, it's super wrong and she's bonkers as she wants her dead. But, but people have really strong feelings about things and if they're weak, if they're inherently weak, which I believe Ivy is, clearly. They will

go to these lengths because Kai doesn't prey on people that are strong. Kai praise on people that are weak That's true What's the next nugget? We got five minutes Okay sorry Next nugget is Dr. Cheyenne Alley and Meadow

Well we still don't know what Dr. Dr. Vincent We don't know if he's like involved in the cult Or if he's like an innocent bystander That's the last piece of the puzzle Because we you know He was talking to Meadow Not like he knew who she was

Yeah, could have been like faking it Because he's in the shadows But she received that call from Kai they had no expectation that Ali would take Meadow to Dr. Vincent and she got the call from Kai and just saw that he called

and it was like I gotta go because she was already obviously we now know was on her mission so you know it wasn't like you know so there wasn't even like a pause and a cutaway to you know did she say I've got to go

and do your brother's bidding or did she No. She just said, I gotta go. And laugh. I think it's very likely that Dr. Vincent is not involved because from what we remembered about the scene where the parents died and all that happened like he was very pragmatic. He was like, here's what's going on with the

money, here's what we need to do in order to survive. Like he didn't seem you know, like he was open to fancy. He's definitely handing people his patients over to Kai. Somehow he's communicating with Kai. Oh yeah. There's There is that whole thing with the phobia.

We know that there's a connection. We just don't know how it's being made. Is Kai going in and reading his notes? Right. And what is... I think it's more direct than that. The other thing that we never saw in this whole thing is Vincent's relationship with Winter. Like so far we've only seen Winter's relationship with Kai and Vincent's relationship with Kai.

We have not seen those two come together at all. Maybe they're the same person. Somebody's the same person Somebody's the same person But like No Vincent and Winter Clearly They're trying to

You know I'm sure I be recommended Dr. Vincent Right He's really good He's really attractive Right because This just goes back to

So right after the election Right She went to Dr. Vincent after she started spiraling again Right Though Well of course She went to see Dr. Vincent

And that's when we It was after that first time we saw them that she had her first clown attack. So I really, yeah. The first clown attack was the grocery store, right? The supermarket. That was after her session. She went to the super market. Two minutes. So, two minutes. So the last thing we're going to talk about is

the shooting, obviously. Yeah. It was fairly disturbing. I think mostly in light of what happened last week. Like for me, it was, It was overly disturbing because of what just happened. But I don't feel like it was so disturbing that I couldn't watch it. Of course, I wasn't involved in. Yeah. I mean, I don't know exactly. If you have the FX now, maybe you do the research for us.

I'm going to check it out on the app now to see what the difference is. We watched it on demand through Xcinity, which is not the same now as what FX was advertising. So we saw the edited version, which I thought was more than enough. To maybe trigger people. So I'm wondering what, maybe they cut out some blood splatter or things like that. There was more like, like, you know, they were able to trim into where you see Meadows shoot, but then you see a close up of like the person being shot. I just, I mean, we have to really talk about like Meadow psychology and, and what kind of person she was that she, she, she was like, I'm going to leave.

And then she wasn't, she was just a completely useless person. I'm pathetic. Her fear was never being attached by a man Again And they had sex in that closet And he gave her what she wanted So she was ready to die for him

He's very smart about the way he manipulates 100% manipulated that one sentence I mean you do understand the timeline The whole thing from her running over there saying It's a cult everyone's in the cult That was all bullshit Yeah discovering her in the grave That was all

Yep Yeah, they, they, making sure they got away. Well, maybe that wasn't planned. No, well, yeah, no, I think she meant for her to get away. Because she told, it was after they got away, like after Medica caught, and she went and rescued her from the garage. That's what she told her more information. Yeah. It was all about getting her to that point of the shooting.

They wanted Allie to have all the information so that when Allie was the only one who could say, no, it's this, this and this and this. they'll say you're crazy and she has a record of which is now really interesting so first of all like brilliant of Kai for him to be combining like what Ivy wanted

with what he wanted with what Meadow wanted like I mean he's that's like some you know little finger level of planning and okay so we're almost out of time but I do have to I just want to take a second to talk about like what we think is going to happen next

in terms of this shooting and and Allie's like part in it. Do they, do you think they think she did it? No, because I was talking to Andrew, you weren't in the room. You know, the SWAT was already walking down when, when, Meadow. So they saw

Meadow. Like Andrew said, they probably going to... What they saw is two hands or four hands on a gun and someone shot in the head. Right. But somebody in the audience has to have seen. Unless everyone at the rally is paid.

Is paid. Is paid by cops. Yeah, that would be a twisted little thing. Well, I mean, he paid all the other protesters, so why not these guys? So I understood the person with the gun, of course, is going to get arrested. Right, but they did. Everybody around her is dead. Right, right, right.

So, you know, I don't know. Well, it may not be that they're going to charge her with the shooting, but the fact that everything else is going to stay in connection with telling them that she wasn't the one, it's going to sound crazy. And then I, V, who would never be allowed custody, now gets custody. of Oz. Wow. And then next week we've got

Francis Conroy showing up with her weird coven of like man-murdering feminists. Well the thing is, you know, he's out of commission for hours or a day. Right. And I, we definitely think we broke him down. We definitely think this is the rise of Beverly. Unless, unless

this is again Kai being smarter than everybody else and he played Beverly. He showed vulnerability to real her in and give her a false sense of security. So it could be a double play, you know? If he's been this smart about reading people until now,

he could be reading Beverly as well. He can be omnipotent and know everything that's going to happen. Well, it's not about omnipotence. It's about him seeing somebody else trying to explode his own weakness. And he might already intuit that Beverly wants power. Right. And that she wants to best the best. I don't know.

I mean, because she's already. I think you just don't. I don't think Ryan Murphy's that smart. I mean, she's already come to him and, like, kind of laid out, like, oh, we need to, like, show this person. She's trying to test him for power, and he cares about power. But where's what he cares about? I almost say, like, has no weakness.

He wants to be Donald Trump, drink. I mean, he has to have a weakness. I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong. Like, he's lying to them about what actually happened. Right. It's very possible that her perceived power over him is only perceived. So leave us a comment in the section below and tell us what you think. The dynamic between Beverly and Kai is going to be...

Because that's going to be the major power struggle next. Well, apparently, that's what it looks like. And Francis Conroy is back! We're going to be drinking of Princess Conroy. I just watched her today and how I met your mother. Oh, I love her as Varney's mom. All right, so thank you so much to The Horror Returns for having us on their podcast. You can go listen to their podcast at podbean.com backslash the horror returns or on their

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All right, so we've got, now it's time for featured attractions. It's time for the horror to return again and again, and again, this week. Every single day. Yep, happy death day and run, Lola, Run. So we'll start with the older movie, Run, Run, Lola, Run. The trivia is as follows, director and Rond. writer was Tom Tychwer. I think that's how you pronounce it. He's also known for doing Cloud Atlas and the TV show Sense 8 along with the Wachowski. So they worked together quite a bit.

Oh, wow. I didn't know that. Yep, there are many spirals. Visuals of spirals in the movie, staircases, bar behind phone booth, etc. This is because the director was a big fan of Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo. As well as writing and directing the film, Tom Tyke were also composed the techno music, which features star Fraka Potente on vocals. The colors... Did he have heard at the time? I don't know.

I don't know. That's interesting, but yeah. Because it doesn't fit the movie, but it was... Yeah, well, it was definitely German. Yeah, very German. The colors red, such as Lola, here, a lot of the cars you see, a telephone, and also yellow, such as the phone box, the supermarket, and the tram appear very often in the film. These colors were selected by the

director to signify danger. The reds, you'll notice, are mainly in Lola's scenes and the yellows in Manny's. Yeah, I have to go back and see that. Although, yeah, that does kind of makes sense. I do remember that now showing up quite a bit. So run, Lola, Run. Brian, what did you think, man? I actually liked this one. This was the first time watch for me.

I like the pacing. Once the story got going, just like the title, you know, it was run. Lola Run. It was just going, going. I like the three different endings we got.

It was very interesting. A lot of, they mixed in a lot of things. I like the animation. Mm-hmm. They threw in that too. Yeah, it was terrible, but it kind of worked. Yeah, exactly. I liked, I liked the, the actress I played, what was it, Franca.

Potente? Yeah, Lola. I thought she was really good in this. Her boyfriend, man, he's a fucking, dip shit, really. Yeah, the guy is this dumbest person on the planet. Yeah, let me just leave this fucking bag of

money that I had to give to my boss. What was the reason? Because he didn't have a ticket to be on the subway? Yeah, and he thought that the cops were going to kick him off anyway, so he just went ahead and got off. You couldn't buy a fucking ticket to get on the subway with your giant

bag of money? I was like, this guy is an idiot. Stupid people. But I'm I mean, that guy's dumb. But I just, I just, I just, one of the things I said, like I said, I like the pacing, you know, all this, all these different scenarios happen within 20 minutes. Right. And they, they, they kept it going.

And I really had a lot of fun with this one. Mm-hmm. Was the movie in real time? Was it in real time, guys? If you go back and look at it, I was trying to figure that out. I think it was. Because I think that when she started the run, she had what, exactly, 20? minutes to get there or something like that.

And I think it ran literally 20 minutes, exactly. Yeah, the movie runtime is an hour and 20 minutes. And there were what? There were three. Well, there was the little setup section, and then there were the two little, you noticed in between a couple of the scenes they showed, like one where she asked him a question that there's no way he could have answered. And the second scene, he asked her a question.

There's no way she could have answered. And so you had that. and then at the end you had a little bit at the very end of it. So I think this may have been in real time. So maybe it was, yeah. I think it was. And I think it probably, this movie has probably inspired a lot of, a lot of this newer stuff that you've seen where you've got the time loops and stuff like that going on. What did you think, for?

Yeah. I thought it was pretty interesting. It had kind of a, I mean, okay, so it's in German in case you haven't seen it, so subtitled. but it had kind of a like a Guy Ritchie sort of vibe to it it was really like raw and fast-paced and

and a lot of like scenes that would just pop up and go really fast and then you'd have to keep up and then it would go back here you know it was just a very fast-paced movie I liked it though it kind of had a cool vibe to it I think it was cool that we kind of got like three different short stories of the same thing

in different ways that it could have happened. I didn't really get, because, okay, so you know how she's running along and she'll like bump into the lady with the baby carriage, right? Yes. And they go through her little backstory. Like each,

in each story, each time that she runs past her, but she has like a different backstory each time. I don't understand that. Yeah, it was, I guess it was supposed to be that chaos theory, the butterfly effect that she was just altering their... Different dimensions? Yeah, altering their futures. Some of them were pretty fucking dark.

Yeah. So you're telling me in every one of these dimensions, this dumb ass leaves a bag of money on the bus? I guess he's... I guess no, no... In every which way, this guy is just dumb. Just to fuck it on, huh? Well, I can't say it surprises me. There's so much you can't say about many.

I like how he tries to call somebody to get the $100,000, too. I know. I get so mad that they only have $500. I know. They're like, well, I can give you $500. He's like, no, I'm going to punch the phone booth like three times. Right. What was the purpose of that, huh?

I don't know. But, well, because it was memorable. And so they showed that same scene in each story, so it went back to it. But I thought it was cool, man. It was a first watch for me. I'd never even heard of it before. And it seems like it could be, it's not the greatest movie out there, but it seems like it lives in that, like, cult classic territory.

And had it been in English, I think it would be. Kind of surprised they haven't done an English remake yet. Yeah, I mean, it was pretty interesting. Although, I don't know how you really mess with that one, you know? I mean, they could do a more polished version in English, but it wouldn't have the same feel to it, I don't think. Yeah. I think it would definitely lose something in a remake.

Yeah. Yeah, I like the way they showed the city of Berlin, how she starts out in such a, when she first runs out of that apartment, then she's running through that beautiful courtyard, that garden. and it's real peaceful setting and all of a sudden, you know, I think after the part where she almost runs in, or she runs into the lady twice

and almost runs into the third time that's pushing the stroller. And then all of a sudden you start seeing like, you know, it looks really dirty and gritty. Like you see graffiti all over a lot of the wall. She's running past and, you know, you see all these people driving cars real fast, like almost hitting her and then giving her the bird and stuff like that. and it's just kind of like that.

Like because he's in the middle of fucking street. Yeah, I know, but it just, it almost, it almost kind of felt like the further she got, the closer she got to Mandy, the dirtier and grittier and nastier everything got, you know? Yeah. And then when she gets, I love the scenes in the bank where she went in and tried to get the money from her dad. Oh, that guy was a scumbag. Oh, man. And, yeah, like the way it turned out the first time, but had she gotten there just like, what,

five seconds later or something, the lady would have said, the next thing she was going to say, and his attitude would have been totally different, but he was still a dirt bag. Yeah. Yeah, I really like it. I like, like, like you were talking about, Brian, the butterfly effect, the chaos theory thing.

Yeah, yeah. How it showed all that going around. And they didn't even, they didn't exactly totally explain why she started over again each time, and that kind of led to the, to the mystery, which I thought was pretty cool. Mm-hmm. What did you guys think about the soundtrack?

I think it was pretty cool, man. I thought it went really well with the movie. I thought it was time to go pretty well with the scenes and stuff. You know what? I kept thinking of the entire time during the soundtrack. What's that? That super trooper scene with the German guy and the little coach car. Oh, of course.

Every time. Maybe they got it from this, or maybe this got it from. that, you know. German techno. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Anything else you guys want to say about this one before we move on? No.

Yeah, it was a good watch. I think we're all glad we saw it. What's your score, Brian? I'm going to seven. Like I said, I had a lot of, I've heard of this movie. I just never got around to watching it. But I'm glad I did. It was definitely a good movie.

fast-paced I liked the different scenarios it had characters that you like Lola I was really just she's got some great cardio let me throw that in there for sure man I was really pushing for her to get this done

even though her boyfriend Manny is a piece of shit and he doesn't deserve someone to help him out like this because just don't leave a bag of money that you're in charge that was his only job was to bring the money. You had one job. And not only that, but she was supposed to pick him up,

and since she wasn't there right exactly at the right time, he's like, well, I guess I'll just take the subway. Oh, wait. I got to bring up the damn, the homeless guy. I did not get that scene. Oh, we forgot all about that, right? He traded the bag of money for the gun. That was kind of weird, man.

Yeah, and then it didn't really go nowhere after that. No, that was pretty much. Well, yeah, he was, because he knew it wasn't his bag of money. It was the same guy that he ran into the subway. Right. Yeah. But with that being said, seven, I had a lot of fun watching it. That's not too bad.

I'm going to agree with you, I think. I probably, had it not been directed so well, I'd probably give it a six. but I think the whole feel of the movie like I said it's got kind of a like Guy Ritchie cool classic sort of vibe to it sure and for that I'm going to bump it up to a seven I like it right kind of has that European gangster

feel to it yeah yeah yeah yeah definitely I just had to look I just had to look her out because she looks familiar the main actor hasn't she yeah she's been in the born movies she was uh oh she she was in blow okay yeah sorry i had to just start that in there she looks super familiar okay

yeah yeah i read the thing i remember her for now that now that i'm looking at the credit at her credits of other things she's been in that uh tv show with tom hardy in it that was i think it's been renewed for a second season taboo the one on fx oh yeah yeah she played helga the mistress basically of the horror house Yeah. And now I'm thinking of, oh, fuck, that was her.

Okay, cool, you know. But actually, that's been on American Horror Story. Vaguely, if she was on that, I don't remember her in that one. Yeah, she played Anne Frank. Hmm, okay. All right, well. Yeah, it was, the thing I remember about the show Taboo that made it so unique for me, it was the first TV show on FX.

I ever heard them use the word fuck on. I heard it was going rampant on that show. Yeah, it really was, man. But I did tap out. I got a little bored with it. So you guys both give it a seven then? Yeah. All right, cool.

Our famous, I think the second time this has happened, 777 then. Hey. All right. Too bad we're not in Vegas, right? I know, right? All right, so we'll move on to our main feature tonight, which is the brand new movie Happy Death Day. Director is Christopher Landon, also known for paranormal activity of the marked ones, which we will forgive him for because he also directed Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse, which was awesome.

Oh, yeah. Writer Scott Lobdell, also known for X-Men, the animated series, and he actually created the character Blink. Did you know that, Brian? No, I did not. Huh. This was a movie was originally titled Half to Death. That's stupid. Yeah.

After sitting on a shelf for 10 years, a chance meeting with an old producer on the film gave Landon the idea to send the script to Bloom House, and the rest is history. All right, boys, take it away. I didn't see this one. I'll go first. I have to quote Our newest face book group member Samantha Bean She said

Because I was talking to her earlier She says I think any hardcore horror Or scare movie fan Will think this movie is tame And that's exactly what I thought And I was a little bit bored At times throughout this movie Yeah

I did like the concept of it the main actress, they really do a good job of making you not like her, which brings up the, you know, who wants to kill her? Who are the suspects? Because there could be a lot. Yeah, because she, in the beginning, in the beginning, she is very unlikable. Right.

And I thought she played. She is super hot, though. Yeah. I'll give her that. She played to that being unlike, yeah, she played to that unlikableness very good. And, um, but, at times it just, it was slow and nothing was happening.

And I think the movie was a little confused because at times it felt like it was trying to be a comedy. Because there was a montage. Philip, you know what I'm talking about? There was a montage in the middle. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

It definitely didn't scream horror movie. Yeah, it was a little too, I don't know, comedic. And this movie was being built as Groundhog Day meets scream. and I think it was a little bit more Groundhogs Day than scream. I don't know. I just, I didn't get the,

it wasn't scary, definitely. So this is a Blumhouse movie, yeah? Yes. Yeah, see that, I don't,

I don't know how it really fits in with Blumhouse anything. Really? Yeah. I mean, I guess it had a horror aspect to it, but it was like, um, not really that scary,

huh? Okay, so my wife, wife was watching God damn it, what is that show that was dumb with Julia Roberts niece.

Oh, scream queens? Scream queens. So she was watching scream queens and I was like, oh, I always wanted to watch that. And I watched it and I was like, this is really bad. It's really rough, huh? Well, I mean, okay, so this is better than Scream Queens. I'll give it that.

Yeah, I tapped out of scream like the second episode. Because I think that was trying to be more comedy than horror. And this one has a lot more comedy than horror, too. But at least it was entertaining. It was, it did get a little slow at times. The death scenes were, the first one was a little tense. And then pretty much everyone after that was not at all.

Do you think if this movie was rated R, it would have been different? Yeah, because her naked scene coming out of the dorm room when she just didn't have any clothes on would have been way more awesome. Oh, what a shame. That leads back to our gratuitous sex scenes that we don't get no more. Okay. We got a nice shot of her back. That girl, even her back, dude, that girl is hot. Right.

And I don't normally do blondes. but yeah she was she was she was pulling that shit off yeah and another thing that i didn't like it was very telegraphed yeah as the movie was going you could you're you're you're just checking off okay it's not you it's not you it's neither you or you well was it's tell you then they give me that clue in the middle yeah i don't know got that with the fire yeah i was like oh i'm pretty sure that's who it was but then they did a pretty good job of making me forget about it for a minute Right. You know, I guess a slight of hand that make you focus on something else.

Brian, Brian, wasn't as badly telegraphed as you said Wishapon was? No. Wishapon was, you know what? I'm a reserve my judgment on Wishapon because it just came out on Blu-ray. Apparently there is a director's cut.

Ah, okay. Or the movie that they, I think the director was on the Shock, the Shockwaves podcast. Okay. And it's supposed to be a different movie, basically. So I'm going to... Hopefully I'll check it out.

Yeah, hopefully I'll check it out before next week's show. But... All right. Yeah, this one, it just... I don't know. I kind of was really looking forward to this because I love Groundhogs Day. Yeah. And the first couple screen movies I really like, so that being matched into one movie,

I was really looking forward to this. It just missed it for me. yeah when the movie was over the first thing i said was that was all right yeah that's okay about this yeah it's okay yeah it wasn't terrible yeah it just wasn't bad yeah i took my son with me this time

and i was you know i asked him you know what you think about it he was like yeah it was good yeah it was okay oh and he's in the age demographic for it yeah he he he he really didn't appreciate the ending either. Oh, no. So, that was,

that was his review on it. It was, yeah, it's okay. Well, and I mean, I know that, you know, that's the age demographic that you're going for, but you're going to have a sorority house and I don't know.

A sorority house with no nudity, a. Oh, give me a man, come on. Yeah. And B, it was just, I don't know, the whole sorority thing was a little overplayed because it was like, oh, man, how many Kim Kardashian's can I fucking listen to for? I will say the main sorority girl. Yeah. She played that role pretty good because she was a bitch.

Oh, she was totally a bitch. She was funny, though. She was funny. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's, yeah, it's okay. Or come on Netflix or something.

Don't go to the theater to see this thing. Okay. You know what? Honestly, I had more fun watching The Babysitter than I did this. There you have it. It looks like the babysitter looks like a fun or movie. It was. From what I've seen, you know?

I was excited about this one too, man. I thought it was interesting. Yeah, they pushed it quite a bit. I saw a lot of ads for this, you know. Yeah. I saw the trailer probably seven or eight times, you know? And another... Now, this girl will be in some more stuff, I think.

Yeah, definitely. I thought she's a good actress. Yeah, she was probably the best thing out of this movie. Yeah. Because she does have a turn in the movie, and I thought she played that off pretty good, too. Yeah? Oh, yeah, definitely.

Another thing I'm going to do new on the show, I'm going to give the Rotten Tomato score. And this one is sitting at a 68%. Hmm. Not horrible. And I did not write it down, but I think the audience score is a little bit higher. Okay. I had a 72.

Don't quote me on that, but I know it was in the 70s. I mean, it seems a little high, but it still sort of is right alongside my, yeah, it's okay. It's, it's fluff. Yeah. If you want to go see a movie on a date, night, it's not terrible. Hmm. Yeah, check in the box office. it has won the weekend.

31.5 million off of $4.8 million budget, so. Oh, there may be another one. Yeah, probably will. Because I'm hearing rumblins. There's going to be a buy-by man, too. No.

Yeah. This one beat Blade Runner. Oh, no. Ouch. Which it shouldn't. No. You ready for score? Yeah, let's do it.

I am going to give this. It wasn't horrible. It just not, it wasn't what I was expecting. I wanted more out of it. It was a little slow. I'm going to give it a six. Yeah. Very soft six.

Okay. That's what I was thinking. I was trying to decide somewhere between, you know, can I give it 5.75? Sure. Whatever you want, man. It's your rating. like in between a five and a half and a six, man, because it was, uh,

was it worth watching? Yeah, I guess. Are you going to miss anything if you don't? Not really. Right. Wasn't beating myself up over watching it. So yeah.

It's not, it's not bad. It's just, yeah. It's kind of fell flat a little bit. Yeah. And there was. There was a lot of,

there was a lot of times in the middle. I mean, the montage was fun. But aside from that part in the middle, it was like, I kind of got bored. Yeah. That's too bad, man. But, you know, on the plus side,

you guys obviously both liked it more than you didn't, so it sounded like you'd recommend it at least maybe when it comes on Netflix or something. Yeah, if it pops up and you get the chance to watch it, why not? Yeah, I think Phillips said it best. You know, if you got a date, you know, it's Halloween season. This is a pretty, pretty safe movie to go watch.

Yeah. It's just okay. Okay, well... That's my score. Put that on the DVD box. On that note, guys, you're ready to do some spoiling? Yep. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. I don't know what this will I'm going to bring up a couple things I really liked I like the fact that even though she kept dying

every day she was still feeling the effects of dying every day yeah so she got weaker every day I really I really like that it's not like it just reset and she was perfectly fine it's like every time she died she would be weaker and you kind of seen it as the movie was going how she kind of looked a little paler

there was a scene where she went to the hospital and she got x-rays done and then in the x-rays he was basically saying stuff from I see in your x-rays you should probably be dead because she has all this eternal trauma

yeah yeah but then but then they didn't really stick with it though because I mean that was like in the middle of the movie and then she still dies a couple more times after that and doesn't passed out and go to the hospital.

Yeah. So I don't know exactly how that works. Right. But it would have been cool had they followed through on it a little more, I think. And the other thing I had brought up earlier, she had a character change. And because she went from being bitchy to so I could see why so many people wants to, you know, harm her or kill her. And then once she started opening up to there was one character who I would probably say, he was very open to her saying that she's living the same day.

He seems like he was, he believed it really quickly. Like every time. Right. Dude, I'm sorry. If she woke up in my dorm room and I was a fucking freshman because that dude was obviously a freshman. Right.

Then I would probably believe her to. You didn't believe any word she said, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Once she opened up, she became more fun, I thought. her character. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that last,

that last life that she had, well, not the last one, but the one where she's like finally starting to, okay, I'm going to live things right. Yeah. Then, that was kind of a fun scene to watch

because it was like. Yeah, she's like, very likable. Yeah, she's finally doing the right thing because she is sort of a likable person, you know? And so now she's finally doing good things. Yeah, she openly farted at the diner.

She really didn't give a, Yeah, she was eating food and burped and he was like, he said something, is that all you got? And then she farted. I don't know. I just felt like she became more funner. She became more fun of first thing at the morning fart. What about the,

what about the scene that I saw in the trailer where she's like walking across campus naked or something? That was the one. Yeah, that was, I think that was during the, was that during the montage? Yeah, I think that was during the montage. Montage, because she was, she had finally realized that, oh, well, if I'm just going to die every day and relive the same goddamn thing, I may as well figure out who the killer is. And so during the montage, one of the times, she's like, well, fuck it. And just, like, walks outside naked.

And she's like, there's the song playing, and she's got her little strut going. And she is super fucking hot. I think Phillips got a new favorite actress here, man. Well, just in this movie, again, I don't do blondes, and I don't normally dig the skinny bitches, but she had it rolling. Okay. That's all that matters, man. Yeah. Too bad it wasn't rated R.

Oh. That would have been fun to watch. Anything else to spoil? No, everything was pretty, you know. Pretty shallow plot, huh? Yeah, it was. It was really shallow. I mean, your whole. goal is trying to figure out who the killer is.

So it does have that scream kind of atmosphere to it. But there's a scene where she finally gets away from the killer, who she thinks is the killer. It's the like the dude that escapes from the hospital.

He's like a prisoner and a serial killer. Who's the obvious choice, right? Sure. And he drops this birthday candle into this gas leak where she's like locked up in a cop car and it blows up a car it's how she dies on that one right but the dropping of the birthday candle that it gives you like i felt like that was the here it is this is who's

the killer right right because it ended up being her uh her uh her uh roommate yeah it was okay yeah to me it just like when it was the chick or the freshman guy that she woke up with No, the chick. Yeah, chick. You see, Go ahead. I was going to say the reasoning for it was dumb. Yeah.

She's like, I hate you because you stole this guy from me. So she... You stole Gregory, even though you never meet Gregory in the movie at all. Right. Yeah. And so she, like, is...

I mean, so dead set on killing her that not only does she keep coming after her after she doesn't eat the fucking poison cupcake, you would think that if you're giving her a poison cupcake for her birthday that,

I don't know, just from the mindset of the killer, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. She doesn't have a whole lot of motive. Right. Which, you know, is why she's kind of a last guess

for the killer is, but the motive that she does have doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Yeah. All right, cool. Well, so that's a happy, happy death day. So you guys both liked it more than you didn't. So, again, you'd probably recommend it,

but I'm assuming not to go pay for it at the theater. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if, that's what I'm saying. I mean, I wouldn't go seeking out this movie, but if it happens to pop up in front of you one day, oh, look, happy death day is in front of me. Then go ahead, go ahead. It's not going to ruin your day, you know?

I'm sure it'll be on HBO. or something like that, if nothing else, you know? Yeah. Within three or four months. It's just not awesome. I don't think it was worth the theater experience. Unless you had a movie pass, which all the guys seem to be getting except me. Brian, you've had yours for a while, right?

Yeah, I've been used mine for almost two months. And it is amazing. I know Carl's got his. He's using his. And I know he's got to check down on the island, man, and see if they'll let me use one. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Carl got his t-shirt, too, because I think I saw something on Facebook. You guys, anything we didn't shout out this time, we will next week for sure.

Of course, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. Send us an iTunes review, email us, Thehorrorreturns.com, whatever you want to do. And next week, I think it's going to be a real disaster. here at the horror returns. Brian, what do you think? I believe so. What new movie are we going to be reviewing?

Geostorm. Oh, man. That'll definitely be a disaster. I am praying that this is a bottom five of the year, man. I'm hoping that this is so bad that it's good. Well, you might be right. I think we're also going to check out the 1974 classic earthquake.

Have you guys seen that one before? A long time ago. All right. Ready to watch it again? Yeah. All right, cool. And then I know we're going to have another bonus. It probably won't be this week.

It'll probably come out a little bit after the next episode, but it is going to be our annual Halloween with the kids. So that's one of the few we won't be using four-letter words in. but we are going to pick three movies so Brian my two granddaughters have picked theirs it's Boo a Medea

Halloween 2 Is that Caitlin? Jesus Christ Do you guys have your picks lined up yet? You know I'm going to let my daughter pick it out Okay But she is super pumped for that Thank you, Lance.

All right, cool. So much. We got Medea on our plate. What else, Philip? Oh, man. I don't know. Mine are little. I'll ask them.

Is the what movie they want to watch? But we'll find something. All right. There's a lot of good Halloween kids movies out there for sure. Yeah. All right. So, Philip, until the horror returns again. Good night.

Bye. Bye.