The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #86: Day Of The Dead (1985) & Day Of The Dead: Bloodline (2018) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: August 16, 2022

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victims for those of you delight and dread who fantasize about fear who glorify and go welcome you have found the place where the horror returns listeners beware this podcast contains major plot spoilers in the foulest of language Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. This is the podcast that every week, sometimes a day or too late, but every week does prove that the horror never ends. Each episode, we seek out and review a brand new horror movie, and then we go back and find a classic work with similar themes. We do include spoilers for the new film,

however, we are going to wait until the very end of the show, to spoil the new feature, and we will let you know before we do so. If you don't wish to hear the spoilers, just turn us off at that point. Promise you guys won't miss a thing. We generally assume you have already seen the classic film, so there will be spoilers when we discuss anything

that has been out for at least a year. The other thing that we may do from time to time is use a few four-letter words. This is a horror podcast, and horror movies tend to be R-rated. you can expect us to be too. I'm Lance and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Phillip. How's it going, guys?

It's going pretty good. Yeah. Onissimo. We're happy. It's not frozen anymore. Right. Well, you all want to jump into Cool of the Week? Anybody got something they're just dying to talk about? When we were putting together our top and our best and worst list, I was trying to squeeze in a lot of movies I haven't seen.

So I'm trying to, you know, get ahead of all that this year. So I'm going to do quick little reviews real quick. Okay. Not even really, not even really reviews them to speak on them. I saw the remake to Inside, which, um, it was a remake of a French horror film. Sure. That movie's garbage. No.

Okay. No, it, it was predictable. It was just a movie of bad choices going throughout the entire movie. It's just everything the lady was doing. you were just like, why are you doing this? I know it's a movie, and I don't like to say that, and especially I'm, you know, I'm not in that position. You know, I've never been a partially deaf, pregnant woman,

having someone trying to take my baby. But the movie was boring. Oh, that one, I know what you're talking about now. Okay, I got you. It was boring as shit. The next movie I watched was a mom and dad, starring Nicholas Cage and Sama Blair. Okay.

Tell me that's good. I kind of liked it. I kind of liked it. I was a little disappointed. It's not a clue. Yeah. The explanation why parents want to kill their children wasn't really explained or hashed out, which sometimes it doesn't need to be. But I kind of felt like what was going on in this movie.

I was just like kind of lost at times. Okay. And as far as Nick Cage, I think they pulled back on his craziness. There was times when there was. Oh, no. Yeah, there was times when I was like, here it comes. You know, there's a scene in the trailer where he sings the hokey pokey song. Yeah.

And he's like smashing something. And I'm like, oh, here we go. Here we go. And then I don't know. This movie was made for full on Nick Cage, just raging out. Right. I didn't get it. But it's decent, though.

It's shot really well. And it kind of, the beginning kind of reminds you like, oh, the way the intro is, like kind of a grind house type movie. Mm-hmm. So I do recommend it. Was it fun? At times it was fun. But it's just the story kind of had me lost on what was going on, really. Okay.

Okay. And, excuse me, and the last movie I've seen was The Midnight Man. Ah, okay. If I wish at this time last year, we watched this instead of the bye-bye man. it's not a perfect movie it's yeah it's not a perfect movie but it was more entertaining okay um can't really explain it because i end up giving away

but it's it's a decent story it has robert england in it and lynchay lynchay's doing her best like crazy grandma role so um i do recommend this definitely and uh i think that's what i all i've seen i started that that Netflix open house movie.

But after 10 minutes, I turned it, turned it off. I haven't heard anything good. Yeah. So I think, yeah, it's pretty much trying to get a jump start on all these movies. Good idea. Oh, and I watched the new season of Friday Night Tikes. Love that show. It's a little off topic.

It is pretty good. Yeah, it's based on the, what is it, Typha, the Typha Football League, the Youth Football League in Texas. Yeah, something like that. Little League football, like little little kids. I really enjoy it because... They hit the shit out of each other. Yeah, I enjoy it because my son played Pop Warner football, and it brings back a lot of memories.

Because in my time with him in Pop Warner Football, I did see a lot of coaches fighting each other, a lot of parents fighting each other. They get excited about that shit, right? We just signed back up for baseball, so I'm ready for it. So off topic of what we talk about, but definitely recommend it. There's like four seasons on Netflix. Cool. I watched, I finally watched The Shape of Water, which was pretty awesome.

I don't really have any negative things to say about it, except that with all the Oscar buzz and everything that it got, I think maybe I expected it to be maybe a little bit. better, I don't know. Okay. Yeah, you were going and expecting too much. Yeah, I think so. I mean, because it was definitely an awesome movie, but like I didn't come away from it going, whoa, that was amazing. Okay.

Yeah. I haven't seen all the movies nominated, but I really, what is her name, Sally Hawkins? Yes. The lead actress, I think she should win because she did so much without saying anything. I have not seen it yet. I'm actually going to check that out this week. But out of the movies I've seen, I would have to go with her because, like I said, I felt like she did a lot without having to say anything. Yeah.

She carried that movie with no lines. So that was awesome. I also watched I-Tanya, which I went in not expecting a lot. And I loved this movie. It was so great. I'm the only one who didn't. You didn't like it? I didn't love it.

I thought it was hilarious. I thought Margo Robbie did great. And it was great storytelling. Tommy, you didn't like that Sean character. Yeah. With his CIA, FBI, special training and special ops missions he was on. I like this.

I like to see him with the reporter. He's talking about all his missions. And she was like, you didn't do that. He was like, yes, I did. She was like, no, you didn't. And then he kind of just had. He just has that weird look on his face. Like, maybe I didn't.

Yeah. I bet you he's really like that too. Because I think they showed like an interview with the actual dude in the movie. And he is. He's like that. This is how these people are. It's such a, it's like a, it's like one of those crime gone bad movies, right? Sure, sure.

It's actually, it's like Fargo or something. something a little bit. Yeah, like Fargo or... Yeah, there was another one that came out not too long ago that had um, uh, Zach Galapinakis in it. Ah,

okay, I know the one you're talking about. It was, it was a straight up comedy, right? Yeah. It was, it was like that, but in your real life.

And, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

Sebastian's, uh, Sebastian Stan, uh, the winner, soldier? Oh yeah. That's her husband. I had no idea. Yeah. I finally figured, I finally figured that out about halfway through the movie. But no, I really enjoyed that. That one I came away with going, wow, that was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. And what is the actress that

plays her mom? Oh, she's awesome. She's nominated. Ellison Janney, right? Yeah, she's nominated for a supporting actress. Okay, she should be. She was great in that role. Like, she's the asshole mother that chain smoke cigarettes and it's just like this old curmudgeon. Top it out. It's funny.

I think that's about it for me this week. That and Day of the Dead, I think, is going to be my real cool of the week. Ah, what? Day of the Dead bloodline, huh? Negative. The original Day of the Dead. was really a pleasure to watch, man, to go back and check that one out again. So we'll get into that later.

But, yeah, definitely worth a watch again. Go check it out. All right. Yeah, well, I spent four days in New Orleans, so didn't watch any. In fact, my wife put me on total Facebook silence and messenger silence and podcast silence and all that. Which was pretty cool for four days. But I did make it. managed to watch a

miniseries on Netflix, and it's not horror, but it's fucking gory and violent as hell. So I'm going to say it's going to qualify, but you guys heard

of this mini series called Godless? I've heard nothing but good things about that. I've heard of it. It's fucking amazing. It's a way, it's got me wanting to do a second offshoot podcast

covering westerns now. It's so damn good. It's a Western. Okay. Straight up Western, dude. And Jeff Daniels, he plays a character named Frank. And I'm not going to give

anything away, because I didn't know a single thing about anybody going into the movie or what was going to happen, or the miniseries or what was going to happen. But, man, he pulls it off. I mean, he steals the movie. And there's a lot of great characters

and a lot of great performances, but the way it's shot, man, you really feel like you're back in the old west. So I'll probably check out some more westerns now. It's kind of got me wanting to check out some more westerns. So I'm highly highly recommend it's only

seven episodes and it's classified as a miniseries so it is a self-contained story. So yeah that's godless on Netflix. So Brian, any headlines, man? True Detective Season 3

they just announced that we are not getting it until 2019. Did anybody watch season two? I did. It was very tough to get through. Why the fuck are they even doing in season three? Well, season one was great. Season one was great.

That's why, because they're trying to recapture. I mean, so far, I mean, Marshala Ali, Marshal Ali is the main detective in this one. And who was directing? Jeremy Salnier, who did Green Room and Blue Room. ruin. Oh, no shit. Yeah, he's doing this season. Oh, dude, I'm in one million percent. I tried also. I try, I'm sorry, Brian didn't bid me to do that, man. I, I, I just got so excited when you said that, but, uh, no, I've tapped out after one episode on the, on the second season, but

uh, this one I will commit to the whole thing no matter what, if, if those guys are involved. Yeah. Um, season two, I mean, it had, it did have its bright spots. Uh, I thought, I like Colin Farrow in it because there's a scene where his son gets bullied and he shows up to confront the son on his doorstep. And he has some colorful things to tell the little boy.

Especially what he's going to do to his parents. Oh, no. I kind of like this character. Yeah. But yeah, it was, it was very like, and the Taylor, Taylor Kitch character,

I didn't understand why the fuck he was in the, that, yeah, that whole story was just like, what is going on? You really hate that guy, huh Lance? Oh, dude, I'm not even going to be able to... Michael Shannon's one of my favorite actors of all time, and he's starting in this new miniseries, Waco. But because of the fact Taylor Kish is playing fucking David Koresh,

I'm not even going to give it a chance. That's fair. Forget it. Let's see. Also, recently just casted the season three of True Detective is Stephen Dorff and Scoop McNary. That's a great cast. Yeah. that's a great cast.

And an actress, I'm not too familiar with Carmen in Jogo. Jogo? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's been in quite a bit. She's kind of got sort of a tough girl vibe to her and a lot of the stuff that I've seen her in. What has she been in? Because she's got quite a few different movies. Let me pull her out because, like I said,

I'm not too familiar. But she's one of those, like, hot and also kind of like tough-looking chicks, if you catch my meaning. Like, she could fuck the hell out of you, but she could also kick your ass type of. Okay, now that I see her face, I've seen her. A ear erection. She was actually just an alien covenant. Oh, yes, yes. She was the actress when she's the one that got locked in that room when the, when the alien was bursting out of the guys.

back. Okay, yeah. That actress. Yep, yep, yep. And it comes at night. That was the other one last year. Yeah, she's also, she's also been in the purge, anarchy. She was in Fantastic Beasts.

Mm-hmm. So now that I'm seeing a picture, I'm putting it all together. Yeah, this looks like a great cast right here, but we're not getting it until 2019. It's going to be a big year for HBO because, of course, we're not getting a, Game of Thrones until 2019. Yeah. And the rumored Watchman series that HBO is doing, I heard things that we're not going to get it until possibly 2019. Maybe late 2018, but it looks like it's going to be a big year for HBO.

Yeah, but it is, the Watchman is on then, for sure. Yes. All right. Cool. Give it a shot, for sure. Let's see. More TV news. anybody ever watch

Gareth Edwards' Monsters movies series? They were going to turn that into a TV show. Okay. So, I don't know if anybody's excited. Speaking of Scoot McNary, wasn't he in that one? Wasn't he the main guy in Monster? I think so.

So is he going to reprise his role? He's going to have a busy year, man. He was in Godless too, by the way. yeah he was uh and of course of course he was the guy in the wheelchair and Batman v Superman that guy um

I've only seen the first monsters so uh I know there's like a sequel I haven't seen it but um of course I'll check it out I mean it doesn't get me too excited yeah it doesn't get me too riled up man what does get me no go ahead

No, sorry. I didn't think you had anything to say. No, don't have anything to say on that one. You might have something to say about this next little bit of TV news. Stars is developing a John Wick spin-off series called The Continental. Okay. Keanu reused, well, not only cameo, but he's also co-producing the show. Cool.

Okay. Man, the way that they did the John Wick, too, I'm down. I mean, you know it was in my top five. Right. Matter of fact, did it come out, number one? I think it may have. I think I did. But, yeah, just the fight scenes that they did were excellent.

I mean, very, very technical with the shooting and the fighting. Yes. It's great. With the shooting and the fighting, I can't believe. No, it was awesome, man. I loved it. I'm totally excited if they're going to do another one. Yeah, I think we all are.

series. Yeah, I mean, keep giving it to me. And this leads us in the movie news. They are trying to do an expanded universe with this whole John Wick series. They are doing a spinoff movie titled The Ballerina. And a little bit

of a synopsis, and not really a synopsis, but it says it follows a young assassin seeking revenge on her murdered family. And it said it will be a mix of Luke Basson's Lafem Nikita with a Pulpy style of Quentin Tarantino or Matthew Bond. All right.

Dude, I'm all in, man. Definitely. I'm on it down on that one. A movie that I just can't, I don't know if I'm behind or if I'm against it or what. We've talked about the Tom Hardy Venom movie. Oh, yeah. Tim blue in the face. Yeah.

So now there's been reports that Tom Holland, who plays Spider-Man in the MCU movies, has been photocular. graphed on set. And the rumor is the rumor is that he will be making a cameo not as Spider-Man, but as Peter Parker. Well, whatever. I guess that makes sense.

We're going to be watching no matter what, because you motherfuckers are going to make me, so who cares? I mean, just put you all in this. Like it's not going to be awesome. Nah, bring Captain American there. Have it new little fucking 15-second

commercials or something like that for kids to work out and eat their fucking vegetables. Bring Tony's talking. You know what? Or a superhero shit. Why not? You know? What the hell?

Yeah. My only thing is... Why wouldn't Black Widow be their fucking venom or something, right? Come on. Well, Black Widow is going to be in everything because women's movement. Yeah. So, yeah, she's... I mean, they're doing her own movie.

We'll see how that goes. I'm not super excited about it. the Black Widow movie? Yeah, I think it's a little late. To me, it doesn't make sense to do it now. If they did on at the beginning, it would have been really cool. But now that they're doing it now, after this whole trend is going on, it's maybe laying it on a little thick.

I think I would be a little bit more excited about a Black Widow if they made it as like a prequel movie. Yeah. You know, because she has a whole backstory of being an assassin and doing like really fucked up shit. So I would like to see part of that and, you know, what made her turn, you know, basically to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, so. And the last little bit of thing we're going to talk about is, uh, another thing we've talked about a lot is Quentin Tarantino's Manson family inspired movie because nobody knows if it's the actual movie about the Manson family or if it's just happening during what was happening. but Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, Leonardo DiCaprio is officially casted.

He was in the movie. Also, Matt Smith, he was a former Doctor Who. Sure. Yep, he is playing Charles Manson. Oh. He's creepy. He's got a great factor down. Definitely with who is officially casted and who is rumored to be in it.

I'm a big fan of Tarantino, so I, I'm definitely going to see this. I do hope it is more Manson family than shit is going on during that time. Because some stories I've heard, it kind of reminds me of that,

what was that movie? Summer of Sam with John Lake Wasamo. Yeah, yeah. Taking place of what was going on, not the actual, you know, killings. Well, I mean, it's, it's Tarantino. So it's going to be, I mean,

you're going to have to watch it. Oh, yeah, for sure. I have pretty good faith that it's going to be good. Yeah, fingers crossed. And I think that is all the news we have. Okay, well, that means it's time to take our little trip down to the trailer park, boys. Brian, what's the first new trailer to talk about tonight? The first one we're going to talk about is a new series on Netflix called Altered,

Carbin starring Joel Keniman, Christine Lehman, and Antonio Marzell. What did you guys think of altered carbon? Interesting. Yeah, I want to hear what you guys have to think first. It's very, almost Blade Runner, kind of, uh, what was the movie with fucking, I'll think about it in a minute. Oh, you're talking about the one with, uh, uh, uh,

Equilibrium, is that it? Oh, okay. Equilibrium. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a good one. Christian Bale was in that one, right? Christian Bale, yeah, that's the one I'm thinking. Yeah, a little bit of that, a little bit of the Matrix. Yeah, it's interesting. Is it a movie or a series? It's a series.

It's a series. Okay. I think that I like it as a series. Yeah, I'm in the actor Joel Kitteman. I like him. I don't think he gets enough credit. it, you know, he was pretty good in the killing. I actually thought the Robocop remake was decent, and I thought he kind of brought something to the role. You know, he kind of was just in suicide squad.

He didn't really do anything. But, yeah, I'm definitely down for a new science fiction series. And then as far as series goes, Netflix is really, really, Lance, you spoke on, what was it, What was the Western? Oh, godless. Yeah, and I think this will just be another series that people will binge, because they've just been knocking out of the park as far as their series goes.

So I'm definitely in. It looks very, very interesting. Yeah. I can't fucking wait, guys. I saw this trailer. This is the first time I've seen it. I've heard talk about this before. I think maybe the guys on horror news radio talked about it,

or something like that in their news items about a month ago. But just watching this trailer, I'm fucking in love with it. I am so glad, too, that it's 10 episodes. Because I was afraid, oh, man, I love it so much. I'm going to look, and it's only going to be like five or six episodes. But, yeah, 10. And that's good. It doesn't list it as a miniseries, so hopefully it'll be an ongoing.

There's just so much you can do with a storyline. So you've got one person, like a human being. They touched on this quite a bit in the original Star- Trek series. I've read a lot of science fiction novels and this is a topic that comes up a lot is how to kind of like quote unquote keep yourself alive forever by transferring yourself into a different body or into a robot or a machine or a computer or something like that. So there's no limits where this show could go. And it looks so fucking amazing. The special effects and the action looks just incredible. And James Purfoy, he's always great. When I saw him in the trailer,

I got super excited because I like everything that I've ever seen him in. The chicks look hot. That helps a lot. Special effects are fucking amazing. I can't wait. You know what? Like I was saying, Annihilation is far and away my most anticipated movie so far of the year. But this has got to be my most anticipated TV show of the year.

And when I saw that it premieres in just a few weeks, I can't contain my excitement, guys. I haven't been this thrill for something in a long time. I am really looking forward to this. Looks like maybe we might be doing a bonus recap after, you know, we all see the show. Oh, man, I hope so. I hope so. Yeah. Yeah, you're right, Lance.

February 2nd premieres on Netflix. Man, I can't wait. Man, they are putting them all up at once, right? Please tell me. It's Netflix. It's Netflix, so. Okay, cool. Well, I don't know, because that new David Letterman show,

they said they're only doing like one a week or something. Oh, because I think they're trying to do it as a talk show format, you know, every week. Okay. Yeah. February 2nd, everyone. I'm in. I may have this, I may have all 10 episodes watched by February 3rd. Oh, yeah, I'm definitely going to try.

Yeah. I'll be there with you. It looks awesome. I love science fiction stuff. All right. next trailer, which will be Summer of 84, starring Graham

Verchir, Judah Lewis, Caleb, Emery, and others. And, okay, I'm going to try to read these directors name. Francis Samard. All right. Anuk,

Yohan, Carl, Whistle. Okay, sure. And the only thing I've seen that they've done is a Turbo Kid, which I recommend. Yeah. which is also on Netflix. Yeah, I'm into this. You know, right now, the 80s is really big right now,

and this had that 80s retro slasher vibe to it. And, you know, also, you know, you kind of get that stranger things kind of feel to it. Oh, yeah. I'm definitely in. Yeah, they're going to kill this horse and then keep on kicking it. But, uh, sign me the fuck up, man. I'm going to watch this one. That's my only concern.

Between Stranger Things and It, and I'm afraid they're just, it just almost makes it look like they're jumping onto a bandwagon here. But, hey, I'm in. I'm a child of the 80s, and I love both those. So, you know we're all going to be watching this. Yep. Yeah. After, you know, finding out that the directors did Turbo Kid. I thought Turbo Kid was a lot of fun.

Definitely. Definitely. The only release date that I can find is I think it's going to be at Sundance or one of the film festivals on, I believe it already came out as we are recording this. So I don't know about a full release. That's one of the big ones. So they must be expecting a pretty big release on this. Yeah. Don't quote me on Sundance.

But I know it's hitting the major film festival. so. Yeah, if it's, if it's VOD, I'm going to be, I feel like it's going to be disappointing. But if it's going to be like a big release, then I think it'll, I think it'll succeed. I like it. All right. And now we're going to move on to our last trailer, which is already being said as one of the, as far as a genre, horror movies, those type of, you know, movies we talk about. This is going to be one of the best of the year.

and that is Revenge starring Matilda Anna Ingrid Lutz. Yes, that is her whole name. Okay. She's got too many names. That doesn't sound right. Directed by

Coralli Fargett and I believe she is a French director. So, I don't know. This looks like the run of the mill like kind of rape revenge type movie. but the last house on the left um i spit on your grave i spit on your grave which i was thinking if we do

if we do review this i would pair that with i spit on your grave that would be perfect and we've never covered that one um yeah i don't i don't know but i everything i'm hearing i've been hearing about this movie since last last year and i've heard nothing but great things about it so okay I mean, it looks interesting. It looks pretty brutal, actually. At first, when we were watching the trailer, I was thinking, why are we watching this? Because this doesn't look horror at all.

Yes, I agree. And then it goes into it, and it gets really fucking brutal really quick. I think it looks good. It's, yeah, a revenge movie with a strong, female lead is the as the main character and it throws like an indie kind of vibe to it I think

I'll definitely watch it yeah we'll be checking it out yeah that is revenge and I believe I'm not sure if it's going to be VOD or wide release February 7th and that is our last trailer yeah it's got

I want to say what was that movie with Jason Mamoa? Oh, the bad batch. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, that's, I feel like it has that sort of feel to it. I hope that it's better than the bad batch was. I hope so, too.

That started out good, but it got so bad. Yeah, yeah. It was like I didn't hate it, but, I mean, I really wanted to like it more. Wasn't much to be excited about, was it? Yeah. All right, well, look, so we've had a little bit of a hiatus. We're coming out a little later than our normal show, but rest assured, listeners, we'll be back

recording again on schedule again Saturday, so the next show should be up Sunday. But in the meantime, I am guessing that we have a little bit of feedback. So, we got some feedback through our pod bean page from Adam Falkington, who said it's so

funny that the same actor played amphibian man in my favorite film of the year and the bye-bye man in my worst film of the year. He also played smart man. Abe Sapien in the Hellboy movies. That's right.

Abe Sapien. Which one was that? The Fishman. The Fishman. Okay, I figured. Must have a thing for being a fish man. There you go. Adam also commented.

I know I'm a bit late commenting on this podcast, but I'm with Lance. I could have done without Robin White being in this movie too. Something in the cinema shouted, run, Diana, run. Talking about Wonder Woman. okay it uh it completely took me out of the rest of the movie l-o-l uh i've watched it since and i do like it but aries was a letdown

yeah i agree with aries but i don't agree with the robin-right comment yeah i thought she was badass it was a kick-ass movie definitely one of the best superhero movies of the year if you listen to my list but you know, I mean, I know it got kind of snubbed in the Academy Awards, but I don't think it necessarily got snubbed. Gotcha.

All right. Well, hey, shout out to Adam. He's one of our new listeners, and I believe he's from the United Kingdom. So glad to have you in the pack, Adam. Keep listening, man. Thank you for listening. Yeah, brother. Appreciate it.

Carl McCalla regarding the new mutants date change guessing it's either not good and needed reshoots and within three months of release that's a strong possibility or no one is sure how the Disney slash Fox deal

is shuffling things around for a smoother transfer oh that's a good thought they may just let Dark Phoenix be the last X-Men film and scrap this one altogether I doubt that. I have, okay, I'll speak on this real quick.

I was listening to Friends of the Show, the League of Geeks, and they had a good explanation. Because I guess to show these movies overseas costs a lot of money for the studios. And something that they were talking about, something that they heard is that they are showing. The X-Men movies, especially new mutants to next year, because they were all bunched together within a year. Oh, I got you. And it was going to bleed into profits as far as, like, showing them, you know, overseas. Because I guess the cost is higher that they have to pay to show these movies. Okay.

And everything I'm hearing is they're doing reshoots to make this, like, a horror movie, basically. I'm excited about those. Yeah, and everybody has to remember this Disney Fox deal. This deal is going to take like 12 to 18 months to finalize. Right. So everything with Fox is going to be business as usual. Well, I mean, the shuffling things around for a smooth transfer, I think is a pretty good possibility. I do not think that Dark Phoenix would be the last X-Men movie.

And I don't think they'll scrap this one. okay um yeah they've already they've already filmed it so yeah right there's no sense in that I mean they spent a bunch of money on it

um he also says Disney can then plan out on how to bring out how to bring the riding high Deadpool uh to the X-Men and the rest of the X family into the franchise ah maybe they'll add some scenes then

very good possibility future X-Men you get a Deadpool Wolverine Wolverine mixture going on. Which will be fun. Justin Smith said, holy shit, that's a big delay. It is a pretty fucking big delay.

Okay, so Donna Nellie says, here you go guys. Our buddy from a horror mafia podcast. Yes, sir. He says, here's my top 10 of the year horror only, as that's all I've seen so far. All right.

Okay, was this... Okay, number 10 is Tragedy Girls. Do you guys ever get a chance to see that? No. No, but I think the first week of February, I believe it's going to be out on Blu-ray and VOD and all that stuff.

Nice. All right. Checking this one out for sure. Number nine is one that I want to see so bad, and I can't believe I haven't. It stains the sands red. I've heard so many good things. About the one single thing.

zombie that just keeps relentlessly. Like it's somebody, I think, out in the middle of the desert where they can't get to anyone, but the zombies slowly, slowly, slowly coming after them. Is that right? Yeah. That's right. Sounds amazing. I think that's strange that I think we were all interested in this movie and none of us have seen it yet.

No. But it's been on a lot of top 10 lists. I mean, it sounds like it's going to be pretty kick-ass. Number eight is the black room. I'm not familiar with that one. No, me neither. They watched a lot of movies. Number seven is the babysitter.

Yeah. Awesome. Okay. Number six is Happy Death Day. Ah, yes. Number five is the devil's candy. Awesome. Very good.

Number four is Satan's slaves, aka Pindgabdi Satan. I assume that's a foreign one. Because I don't know what the fuck that is. Okay. Is this ring a bell with anybody? Nope. All right.

You'll love this one, Lance. Okay. Number three, another wolf cop. Ah, I got to see it. I love the first one. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't either. Number two is it, chapter one.

Yes. And what the fuck? Number one is Kodoku Meatball Machine. You know what? That name sounds super interesting. It does, but I don't have never heard of it is. What's it about? It looks like it's Japanese.

It does sound very Japanese. I will absolutely go check it out, though. He's got a pretty good list going. Okay, yeah, we gotta check this out then. It's probably super violent. Yeah, well, I mean, it's number one, so shit. Bottom five is needle stick. Needle dick, what?

Needledick. Number four is a dark song. Number three is the transfiguration. Yeah, I heard that was pretty slow burn, like slow burn, to the end degree. Yeah, I heard that one's very decisive. Like, people really love it or people hate it. It's on Netflix.

Right. Yeah. Well, I would go watch it, except it's on his bottom five, so probably not. Number two is Dig Two Graves, which I've heard nothing but bad things about. It was okay, I thought. Gene liked it quite a bit, Brian. Remember, did you see his YouTube review of it? Yes, I did.

Yeah, I didn't like it as much as he did. What did you think? I had never seen it. Oh, okay. It was okay. I mean, it was kind of like a horror or like a suspense version of the TV show Ozark with the same backwoods type of orders. Oh, okay. Okay.

It's worth watching. I mean, if it's on Netflix, you can watch it. Kind of making me just want to go watch Ozark. Yeah, that was pretty good. And is number one Bad Film of the Year, Hex. Okay. I've never heard of it.

He's seen a lot of shit that we haven't seen, boys. Yeah. We're not worthy. I know. Man, he and I'll bet Pedro's seen a lot of these. I'm sure. I got to catch up on my horror movies. All right. So we got Samantha Bean.

quick question, folks, I've never seen Insidious. And that is next on my list of horror movies to watch. We know that the new one is in the theaters and apparently the prequel to the rest of the movies in the franchise. That being said, should I watch Insidious or the Insidious the last key first? I just don't want to be lost in the theater if there are vital elements that I need to have known from the first three movies. A little background A little background of Samantha Bean She is new to our Facebook group

We talked about her before Yeah She her and her husband are super big wrestling fans And they made a wager On a wrestling match And she lost And the deal was she had to watch Like something like 50 or 60 horror movies

And she is completely New to the horror genre So I just want to give a shout out to her for sticking with it. And she comments pretty regularly on the group. So I just want to give a shout out to her. That she does. Yeah, we appreciate it, Samantha. Yeah, she's definitely out of her comfort zone when it comes to horror.

All right. So the insidious things, though. So the first insidious and the second insidious are like, Back to back, it's like a regular movie and a sequel. And then the last two of them are both prequels, right? Yes. So you can't, I mean, they all can kind of stand alone if you want to, but if you're picking an order to watch them in,

I'd say watch them in the order that they came out. Because, yeah. Yeah, I mean, the two prequel movies, which are three and four, are not great. Yeah. So Samantha basically watch them from best to worst. Yeah. Now, I guess it depends on what kind of horror movie viewer you are,

but the original Insidious actually has some really scary moments in it, and man, it was a fun movie to watch. Yes, the first one. So if you don't like being scared, then probably you're going to have a shitty year. Let's see. Marcy Papandria. All right, Marcy.

Yeah. I haven't seen the sequels, but I adore the original. All right, there you go. Ryan Stevens says the first insidious is excellent. Personally, I always watch the films in order, but I haven't seen the new one,

so I can't say if it ruins anything with the original. It kind of does. Yeah, a little. Darren Wilson says if it's a prequel, hopefully they're not expecting people to know about things that haven't happened yet in the timeline. Okay. Makes sense, I guess.

Patrick Lear says, watch Insidious and Insidious 2 first. They are the best of the lot. Yeah, I kind of agree with that. We're getting a consensus here. Yeah, skip that one. Skip the last two if you want to. Samantha Bean says, well, I went ahead and decided to watch Insidious. I loved it.

Hey. Hey. She's coming around, Brian. Hey. I did. She says, I did cry twice and managed not to totally cut off the circulation of my husband's hand. Reminder, I am not a horror fan. And I only started watching them because I lost a bet to Jim.

So I have to watch 53 horror films. I'm on number 21 right now. I'm getting much better about being able to deal with them, but I still get scared. That's why I didn't watch it last night. I need to see them during the daytime. L.O.L. really enjoyed it. And now I can't wait to see Insidious 2, which Jim has seen naturally. We'll do that one in a few hours after my heart returns to a normal speed.

Yeah, Insidious is definitely one of the newer horror movies that is definitely in the really scary, genre. You know what I mean? Like that's one that'll get your heart pumping. Let's see. Regarding the new Snowpiercer series Ryan Stevens says, did anyone else think that Snowpiercer was basically

Biococ on a train? Brian, you've seen that one? No, that's a video game, I think. Is it? Okay. Yeah, I'm not familiar. I'm not familiar with that either. I actually haven't played it either because I've been out of video.

game world for a while. But it does seem very video game-ish now that I'm thinking about it. Snowpiercer was really fucking good, man. I liked it. Oh, that just reminded me of some news. Snowpiercer already lost its showrunner. Oh, no.

Because they don't have Captain Merrick. Oh, boy. Lars from Denmark said, Love the Kids Star Wars episode, smart and funny kids bring them back. All right. Nice. We may be out of a job.

Yeah, I'll tell you. Here's another one regarding the horror returns bonus episode, The Star Wars Saga through the eyes of a child. Patrick Clear says, asshole. He says, Philip has already told us his thoughts on this and was a special really necessary.

Fuck you. That's a good movie. Well, okay. It all hinges on, I think, what they do in the next movie. Okay. The next movie really sucks than The Last Jedi probably wasn't as great. But it's leading up. Let's see.

Ryan Stevens. T.L.J. Worst. Oh, the Last Jedi. Worse than the Phantom Menace. Wow. Oh, dude. You're wrong.

Okay. Now he's fucking with us. Yeah. There's no doubt. Art Callie, objection on your... Objection, Your Honor. Lance intimidated little Ivan when a little... Correct.

He said he didn't like the last Jedi ending. Okay. Lance, this is what I was waiting for. Right. Art made accusations that you were intimidating children, so I want you to speak your side. That's not true, man. I was just reporting.

I was reporting the news. Hey, I thought they were going to like it a lot more than they did. It kind of surprised me. Yeah? Shit. I mean, yeah, I might have been pushing a little. Oh, dude. I'm totally forcing Star Wars down my kids' throats right now.

They're not as into it as I want them to be, but I'm like, ah, we're doing Star Wars, everything. Lance, how old were there? Oh, they're, uh, they're old enough, man. I mean, they're, they're, they're, they're old enough to enjoy, enjoy the movie, uh, eight and 10 years old. So, okay. Yeah. I took my son.

I, I kind of, I kind of thought that they would have been a lot more into it. Yeah. I took my son. He's 16 and, uh, he loved it. Yeah. So he's been trying to give me to show him the prequels, but, I'm kind of dreading that right now. Dude, they're not that bad.

If you're like just delving into the Star Wars universe, I may be the wrong person to ask. But just gaining more knowledge on what has happened so far, it gives you a whole lot of backstory to everything. They're informational films, more than exciting films, I guess. But there's also like shit you don't need, like Metaclorians and all that. Right. shit they tried to explain.

I don't know. Maybe I don't know. Maybe I'll have a different opinion, rewatching it with him, with someone that has fresh eyes. Yeah. Episode three is kick-ass, though. I like that one. Yeah, that's the only one I like.

Yeah. Let's see. Pedro Nunez says Lance intimidated me as well when I was on the show. Yeah, sure. Come on. Now we're just getting silly, Pedro. Come on.

Intimating, Lance. Patrick Lear again says, blatant manipulation of Little Ivan by Lance Langford. Jay Black says, awesome episode. I love hearing the kid's point of view on Star Wars movies. Such a fun time listening. I hope you guys do it again for the Avengers this year.

Oh, that'd be fun. Would be great to get the kids' perspective on that trilogy. Well, yeah, since we never got around to Medea Boo, too, right? Oh, yeah. Gosh. That'd be fun, though. Like, I don't know if you can call the Avengers a trilogy because it's, there's, I mean,

I know it's just the Avengers trilogy, but there's been so many movies that lead up to it, you know? But, uh, but yeah, man, I always always take the kids to superhero movies. Yeah, maybe we'll give my wife to, to comment on the movie. She's a big MCU fan So awesome Oh not

That would be great man Yeah Because she is Looking forward to Avengers And I She will not

Watch nothing DC Really? Yeah She said she doesn't Give a fuck About Batman or Superman or Yeah

I love the characters Man I wish the movies Were for better I just They can't Quite Get it right

No they can Let's see Regarding FX orders what we do in the Shadows series pilot Eric King says ugh

stuff I think he's just referring to the fact that they're making too many movies into TV series or something

that was a good movie yeah I sure did leave that off on my news notes yeah what did you go what do you guys think about that

if you've seen the movie or not I don't know the movie was fine as it is you know I can't remember the movie I feel like I've seen it.

It was like a reality show, like a real world, but with vampires. Were they all vampires or were they different monsters? Oh, that's right. They were vampires. Yeah, they were all vampires. But then there were the werewolves or the swear wolves or whatever, like the, kind of like the, not necessarily their enemies, but sort of like they sort of like look down at them or something like that. Yeah.

I don't know. if it was the original cast doing the show. Which it probably wouldn't be. Yeah, I don't think so. They're on the much bigger things, especially with Thor and all that, right? Yeah, because I hear his, Taika Watiti, I hear his name being thrown around

for one of the standalone Star Wars movies. Oh, yes. I heard that too. I heard that too. I think I'm okay with it. It seems like something that would be cool as a TV series because you can explore more into that universe. Yeah.

Let's see. We got Patrick Lear regarding Altered Carbon. Hey, that's our movie preview. Yeah, there we go. Not sure if you guys talked about this one or not? Yes, we did. But it looks pretty cool. Kind of a John Wick slash Matrix slash Blade Runner mashup looks like.

Oh, that just sounds amazing when you put it like that. Right? I know. Right. It's got a cool vibe to it. I'm excited. Samantha Bean again. Regarding the unfolding.

We came across this on Hulu. The trailer looks decent. Then later we watched it and it wasn't bad. It's in the vein of found footage, but not jerky or hard to watch. Not terrible. We enjoyed it. The unfolding.

Have you guys seen that? No. I told her I'd check it out, though. Yeah, I haven't seen it there. Well, you let us know, Brian. Because I'll let you go first. You may know how the water feels. Yeah, I hope I'm not adding it to the list of shitty movies I watch this one.

This could be a rough mind. Let's see. Our buddy B. Germine, 2017 was a pretty great year for horror films. Yes, it was. My favorite ones from the year, check out my latest article over at the screencast.com. as I run down my list of top 10 horror films of 2017.

To see the list, follow the article link on our group page and then to the screamcast.com. Definitely check that guy out. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with a lot of his picks. Yeah, I do. All right, so that'll do it for feedback this week. thanks to everybody who reaches out to us.

We love the feedback. As always, you can reach us at our Facebook or Podbean page, or you can email us directly at the horror returns at gmail.com. Like us on iTunes, like us on Facebook, follow us, all those

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All right. So I guess that means now it's time for our featured attractions, and we've got a special guests back with us that we love to have on the show. We're going to be back next week, too, I hope. And, of course, that's the NAS. NAS, what's going on, brother? I'm good, man. How are you guys doing?

awesome we missed you yeah um before we get into it brian is everything all right up there you guys had it oh yeah all good people over exaggerating yeah did you feel it at all my wife yeah yeah i felt go ahead i'm sorry my wife asked me is your friend all right i said i think so yeah i me and my wife we was laying in bed watching tuesday TV and I thought she was like shaking her leg, you know, shaking a bed. But, you know, it was like a little minor little thing. And I jumped on Facebook and everybody was flipping out. But where it actually hit, it was like over.

It was like 8.2 or something. Holy crap. Wow. Yeah, but that was like off the coast and we're nowhere near that. So, all good up here. All right. It's a big state.

It's a big state, right? Yeah. Yep. All right. So, Kevin, if they listen to us, they listen to you, man. But why don't you go ahead and give everybody, give everybody the quick plug for all your shows and what you guys have coming up?

We've kind of been on a little hiatus. I've been working and traveling all over the place, going to conventions. I'm leaving for Anaheim tomorrow morning. My son and I are going to the NAM show and going to be there all weekend. But you can also hear more of that adventure once I sit down and record it, probably my daily wrap-ups for the Mack Ness podcast. And you can hear that. I'm sure you guys already know.

On Podbean or iTunes, just look up Skater Nez Podcast Network. Skater is S-K-the-N-E-R-then-Nez, my last name, N-E-Z podcast network and everything. on there. Magnus, East Society, big guys, as well as out of necessity. All that's on there.

So please feel free to listen to all of them. Out of necessity, again, is kind of geared more towards the younger folk because I'm my host, the ZEC from the East Society.

His daughter jumped in. I know I mentioned this before, but yeah, she's talking about teen issues and all that. And like I said, I don't understand a lot of it because I don't know what kids are talking about these days. But other than that, yeah, man, everything's good, man.

Got back from Albuquerque Comic Con. I have a show that I recorded some interviews, but I did not put it together yet. Just been lazy, plus work has been kind of hectic. The winter season is kicking in. I'm sure it's full blast for you, Brian, up there. But we're looking at some snow tonight. All right, cool. Well, we appreciate you jumping in to join us to talk some Day of the Dead shit.

But first, just a real quick little aside. As we record this, we're recording a little later than normal this week. But the Oscar nominations have now been announced. And before we get started, I just want to give a real quick shout out to, obviously, Guillermo del Toro, and the shape of water and those nominations, as well as Jordan Peel for Get Out. So we got two, you know, almost horror movies that are actually nominated for Best Picture and Best Director. Kevin, you're with me that you think Win River got snubbed, I'll bet, huh? Hell yeah, they did, man.

The Golden Globe gave them no love, now the Oscars. So if any of you Oscars are Golden Globes are listening, fuck you guys. I want Get Out to win, but I just kind of have a feeling three billboards is going to win it. but who knows, we'll see. It's a good movie. Any other big snubs that you guys could think of? I mean, Win River is my number one. I think it should have definitely had a couple of noms.

I've done you. Oh, I thought it was a kick-ass movie, man. Yeah, I haven't seen it, but I heard Jessica Chastain got snubbed from all these games. Oh, I would agree. Yeah, she was really good in that, man. I think it picked up a best adapted screenplay. nomination and that's pretty much it. Oh, speaking of that, I'll give a shout out to Logan.

Got nominated for Best Adaptive Screenplay. Oh, nice. Yeah, unheard of. Mm-hmm. He should have been an actor, best actor for that one, because that one, oh, that one was amazing. Yeah.

Even the new one that's out, the greatest showman, I guess they didn't even bother with that one. Yeah, I think it's got a song nominated That's about it. Maybe costumes, I don't know. I didn't look too deep into the costume stuff. But what do you guys think about Wonder Woman? Do you think it should have gotten any nominations?

Yeah. At least cinematography. It didn't even get that. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. There was a thread on, you saw the thread, Brian, on binge media about that? Yeah, I did. I didn't exactly.

did, though. Just kind of glanced over it, huh? Yeah. All right. Well, movies that, one movie that's definitely, I'm sure not going to be nominated this year is one we're going to cover tonight. Yeah. You guys, I'm afraid, you three, hopefully you all saw bloodline and fell on the proverbial sword, because I missed this one. I've been, I was in, my wife surprised me.

That's why we're recorded late. a last minute trip to New Orleans, so I've been there for four days, partying it up. That's awesome. But we'll start with the classic one, Day of the Dead, director and writer George A. Romero, also known for Martin and the Dark Half, as well as many other films we've talked about. Most of the zombie extras in this film were Pittsburgh residents who volunteered to help out in the film. That's pretty cool.

I don't know if you guys noticed. When the newspaper was flapping around there, some of the headlines said, The Dead Walk, and then we got Vice President, declare a state of emergency, whereabouts of President Unknown, food supply dwindles, and another headline said, man bites man. Last piece of trivia, real pig intestines were used during the gore scenes. so this movie doesn't get as much love as the other two. Kevin, what are you thinking, man?

Oh, man. This movie's awesome. Rest in peace, George A. Romero. I met him once. I got to talk to him, and I will never forget that. But this movie, Day of the Dead, Dawn of the Dead out of all of his movies, all his dead movies. Dawn of the Dead is my favorite. But this one will probably come in third because I'm.

like night and then day. But this movie is awesome. I saw it when it came out and I wasn't usually, I mean, I felt this way with the first three before all these Land of the Dead diary and what have you after that. I was always like, okay, it was like really slow. This is when I was much younger, a teenager. And then right now I can appreciate all the slowness because I wanted. it just zombie and gore and action, and I didn't get it.

It was just a real slow burn. But that was when I first saw it now that I'm much older, and I can enjoy every minute of it. And this movie is amazing with all the practical effects. The acting was good. Some of it, not so. Some of the side actors were, I thought, pouring it on a little too much, but it was a good movie.

I mean, I like what they did. And like you mentioned, the pig intestines. I mean, you're watching all the special features. on the Blu-ray. They said they just, they couldn't, they didn't put it anywhere. They just kind of just left it out. So the next day when they got back and had to film,

everybody was like on the urge of, throwing up and they just, well, shit, we got to use it. So they just stomached it. Oh, no wonder everybody's so pissed off. And what they did, I mean, they filmed some of it. I believe it was supposed to be down in Florida, but all the inside stuff was in

I think it was somewhere in Colorado because I remember there was a commercial on the DVD or the Blu-ray for that it was a storage unit underground storage unit place and that's where because during the movie you see there's boats and RVs and everything

they actually just left all that in there and just kind of worked around them so that was really cool and overall I mean this movie is a horror masterpiece. I mean, I love it. And I have nothing but good stuff to say about it.

I couldn't even tell you how many times I've seen this. I mean, watching it again for the listeners, it's always a treat to watch. Just to pull it off my shelf, throw it in, and just veg out for however long it was. And I love it. And I think what I really loved about Romero's Dead movies, out of the original three it was all the same outbreak the whole everything

but they never fit together like neither dead didn't run right into dawn of the dead and dawn of dead didn't run right in the dead it was all just um different groups yeah the first two were two were they were all different groups but the first two

were in the um Pennsylvania area Pittsburgh and all that so and this one was just totally somewhere else So I thought it was good just to spread out throughout the United States. So I really enjoyed this movie. I thought it was an amazing film.

Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot more on this watch than the first time. Because the first time I watched it, I was just trying to compare it to the first two movies. And as I was growing up, I was always like, because there were only these three as we were growing up, Kevin. And I was just like, you know, it's kind of weak. It's just not nearly as good as the other ones. on second viewing this time, I fucking love this movie. And you know what I really like? You're talking about how the three movies are kind of interconnected, but they're not.

I like the way these are not just like, you know, straight up horror movies. They're especially the last two. Well, I say the last two, the, you know, Dawn and this one. Obviously, like you guys are saying, many more came later. But they're almost like action-adventure movies where they kind of like, you know, you've got a group. And I always love movies that have a group of people that have to work together to a common goal. But you've got all your different personalities. Like you've got the real aggressive militaristic people.

You know, you've got the main chick that's the hero. You've got, you know, the dude that keeps freaking out and can't handle anything. And so it's kind of like a microcosm of society, which I think is what, you know, like you liked about that TV show The Miss, Kevin. I love, I don't care what anyone says. One thing I noticed the main actress, I guess her name is Lori Cardle. Have you ever met her at a con or anything, Kevin? No, I haven't. I mean, out of everyone in these dead movies, the only person I've met other than George was Ken Forie.

I met him at Comic Con, and we did talk about Don the Dead. That was all I, it was right before Devil's Rejects came out. So, I mean, I was just fucking his ear off about Donald Dead. And it was cool, man. He answered all my questions. So he was a really nice guy. That's awesome. I think we've all, I don't know how far you guys have gotten into,

but I think we've all seen Fear the Walking Dead, the spinoff TV show. So as I was watching this and I was watching her characteristics and mannerisms, I really kind of think that they've got the new main character in Fear of the Walking Dead model. I think she owes a lot to this character. Do you guys agree, looking back? Oh. Madison? Yeah, that makes sense.

Kind of the same look, the same strength, you know, just a lot of the same mannerisms, I thought. I mean, I just, it kind of struck me that way. Yeah. A strong female lead in a zombie movie in 1985, man, who'd have thought? Well, the first one, you know, your main hero was a black guy, and that was unheard of back then, you know? That's Romero, man. But yeah, this second viewing, man, I love the hell out of this.

And I'll tell you what I really enjoyed was the fucking zombies. You had the, like, the football player zombie and the clown zombie. Do you guys ever played that video game Plants versus Zombies? Maybe once or twice. Brian, you ever play that on your phone or anything? No, I haven't. I'm sure some of our listeners, though, what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah.

That game owes a lot to the... this movie. Every zombie movie ever owes a lot to George Romero. For sure. For sure. What did you think about this, Brian? I agree with everything you guys said up so far. I think this movie

is actually underrated. And one of the things I want to speak about is it kind of flip things around because you were kind of rooting for the zombies in particular, like Bub. Yeah. I really enjoyed that character. That's like out of the Ramirez

series, you know, that's one of the most iconic characters. And you kind of root for him because most of these military guys are pieces of shit. Like, they're like not the most likable characters. Yeah, and super racist. Yes. You know, I felt, even though he was kind of annoying, Miguel, I felt really bad for him. You do, you do, you do his time was coming. If it wasn't from any of the zombies, it was going to come from some of the military

people but um yeah i i've always had a had a soft spot for this movie and um the special effects were awesome and um one of the things i liked about this movie is you know you don't there's not a lot of characters in this movie you know so you know it's just it's the story is easy to follow and i think it is highly underrated yeah yeah one of the things that i loved um about this is that Tom Savini did the makeup, yes. I'm sure he did, but Greg Nicotero also helped

along with him and Greg Nicotero. He was one of the soldiers in it. So I thought that was cool. Because he got bit in the neck and they ended up shooting him. I think when they were trying to round up one of the zombies out of that corral and everything all hell broke loose.

And yeah, Miguel, I felt sorry from now but in the first time i watching this i was like oh fuck that guy i was like kill him because he's gonna get somebody hurt but uh i've got a soft spot for him now because i yeah i can understand him just not being being able to handle all this chaos that's going on in the world uh in this film so yeah i i loved it yeah i me too man i i i actually i don't think that i've ever seen this and I watched the the Day of the Dead Bloodlines first,

so I extra appreciated this one. It was, I think that there was maybe a little overact. When you said your little side characters were maybe laying it on a little thick, where you're talking about that, one of the little jerk military guys, the short one.

Yeah. Who like was laughing nonstop, nonsensically. Yeah. Both of those guys were a little bit. I like Steele, the big guy. He was cool, but the little guy's sidekick was, he was bugging me. Yeah, a little bit.

But I felt like everybody was, all the characters were kind of on edge in this movie, as opposed to the bloodlines that we're going to talk about. So they were all kind of on edge. So it made sense that they were sort of fighting and arguing with each other nonstop. And the main bad guy at least held some sort of command over everybody. He had people that were on his side, which made sense, even though he was an asshole, and they probably should have taken him out a long time ago. But, man, I loved it. I thought the effects were great.

um bub i'm sure is a a big inspiration for the movie phido if you've ever seen that oh of course yeah yeah

yeah including another probably 50 zombie movies that that george romero inspired uh but yeah this one was uh

was great man i don't really have a lot of bad things to say about it it was a little bit dated because it was you know mid 80s and the music is goofy, but it's a mid-80s movie. That's what you're watching. It's definitely worth a re-watch, though. Go back and take a look at it.

I had a blast. I kept, I wanted to see what happened next. I kept watching it and watching it, and I didn't get bored. Brian. I got one question for you, Kevin, if you don't mind, before I forget. What did you think about the ending, man?

Did you think that it was set, like some of it was kind of like a fantasy ending, or do you think it all really happened that way? I think it all happened. I think she just, well, because she woke up at the end. Right. When they were out on the beach and having a good time, and then she opened up the helicopter and the hands came out.

So I kind of just think that, no, that was the very, very end. But when they were running to the helicopter and when they opened it up, the zombies grabbed her. Right. I think that was just a dream. I mean, not the whole movie, but just that part, when they got to the helicopter. Kind of like the hands at the beginning coming out of the wall.

Yeah. Okay, cool. Like they said, I mean, even the captain, I can't remember his name, he said it because they said, we're all on edge, so everybody was feeling it. So I totally understand why they were at it. There was times where the soldiers were fighting each other. I mean, they show a scene when they're all just fighting. So, I mean, everybody was on edge.

in this film. But Brian, which, do you have this on Blu-ray? No, I don't. Okay, because I wanted to know,

I have just the first go-around. I don't have the Shelf Factory or Scream Factory or whatever it is. I don't have that one. I just want to know

what was different on it. I mean, extra-wise, because if it's just the same print, maybe it's cleaned up

a little more, but I don't want to re-buy it if it's the exact same thing. I always buy movies if they have better extra features, but I haven't even looked at it. Yeah. Yeah,

this is this one out of the original Romero trilogy is the only one I don't have. Overall, I mean, this movie is an amazing film, a good zombie film, but again, they never really called them zombies

in this, so it was a good dead film, and I loved it. And George Romero, man, it just this is what we got when we were young kids. We're little, little guys with neither living dead. Then as we got older, Dawn of the Dead, and then teenagers, we got Day. And all three of them were amazing. And this one is, like I said, is probably my third favorite.

And this is one that I can go back to all the time. I mean, yes, some people say it's dated and everything. But I guess if you're an old fart like me, you can appreciate it still. And I still love it. I mean, I let my son watch all the Dead movies, and Donald of the Dead was his favorite, but he did like this a lot. I think he liked this one more because the zombies or the dead, they looked, they looked dead. They were all corroded, and they're all freaky looking. But I was, when I was talking with it after he watched it, my problem with it was that they looked to, like, they look like monsters.

like if you look at the Donald the Dead it was just basically like they just slapped some blue and purple paint whoever they can get a hold of and then just throw them out there in front of a camera I mean not too many of them had the little latex stuff all over and this one is like everyone that was

one of the dead living dead all had the latex stuff on their eyes and the crazy teeth and everything but I mean that I was I'm only saying this because I love Dawn the Dead so much. And this one, I mean, I remember that was the first thing I had noticed when I first saw this. It was like, oh, the zombies look different and weird. But now watching it over and over, I can appreciate it for what it is.

Well, especially since they sort of set the precedent for what zombies should look like, and now that's what they all look like. Yeah. Good point. Kevin, rating? Yeah. I'll give it a nine, and I only give it a nine. it a nine because of the, like I just said a second ago, and how they looked. I mean, I wasn't that

big of a fan of it when I first saw it. But like I said, now I do appreciate it. So I'm just going to go with my original rating back from when I very first saw and I'll give it a nine. Wow. Yeah. I give it a strong eight, man. Definitely, definitely the lowest of the first three movies, but still super strong, man. Good, good strong eight. I'm also with you. Lance, I'm going to give it an eight also. Highly underrated. If no one's seen it, I think, definitely check it out. Yeah, I'm actually right there with you, too.

I'm going to give it an 8. I really, really enjoyed watching this one. It was a lot of fun. It's pretty iconic. Even though it's not really the one that you hear about a whole lot, it's definitely worth to watch. Go check it out. Plus, it's only 299 on Amazon video, according to IMDB.

Oh, is that to purchase? I don't probably just a watch Okay Dude it's definitely worth three bucks man Go check it out Yeah 299 well spent So uh Sounds like all

We have a consensus All four of us Uh highly recommend this As well as the original trilogy right Yes Yeah All right Well boys we're gonna move on

Day of the Dead Bloodline Which is a brand new film Was this considered a 2017 or 2018 Released? Do you guys know? I was not sure 2018 I think because it's it's a it had a January release which you know horror movies in January

All right One of the first then so the director is Hector Hernandez Vicens He's also known for the corpse of Anna Fritz Any of you guys seen that one Negative never heard of it Yeah I never heard of it

Actually heard it's pretty good It's a pretty good movie I have a hard time believing that. Uh, okay. Spoiler. Okay, writers, Mark Tonderry and Lars Jacobson. Definitely not Lars from Denmark, brother. We know you'd do a lot better job, right?

Yeah. Only piece of trivia I could really find on this is the end. It's kind of a no-brainer. The crashed helicopter seen near the beginning of the film is an obvious shout-out to the original. So, Kevin, you want to go first, man? yeah i mean with that helicopter that was what i thought of right right from the get with go before we get into this brian did you see um other than the the the remake did you see that other one day of the dead uh contingent or whatever the hell it was called it's from like 2008 or something right that yeah that

garbage with nick canyon ving rames no there was one before that one oh no no i i kind of after I watched this one, and then I watched the Ving Rames remake, and then I was just kind of done. I didn't want to see it or more. There was another one that came out before the actual remake one, and it read good, but when you watched it, oh, my God, it was horrible. I mean, it started off black and white. It was supposed to kind of lead off of Night of the Living Dead,

and then it went into modern times, and then it just, it was stupid. If you guys have seen it, you know, if not, don't go out of your way for it. But the Nick Cannon went, well, I'll tell you this right now. I like that one more than this one. Bloodline. Ouch. Wow. Oh, man, this movie made me mad from beginning to end.

I was just like, what is this shit over? I was like, ah. I know. I kept looking at the time going, okay. it's almost over. I can get through this. I almost stopped it at one point and said, I'll watch it the rest tomorrow. But I was like, man, fuck it. Let me just get through it. Right.

And it was a painful watch. It's like eating a really bad meal that somebody made, but you have to eat it because, you know, you don't want to not be polite. You're just forcing your way through the shit. Yeah. Oh, my God. I mean, the thing that I did like about it, there was a lot of practical effects. I thought that was pretty sweet. Whoever did the special effects did a really good job. I'm not that big of a fan of CGI blood,

but they didn't go overboard with it, so that that was good. But it's like they had the budget to make something good or decent, but... Thank you. They just threw shit at shit,

and that was just like, oh, fuck. $8 million was the budget for this movie. Eight million dollars. Wow. They just threw it out the window. I have no idea. It's been all on effects.

The only dude I knew was the main zombie guy. He's the only actor I had seen and other things. But, oh, no. Could someone else go? That's about all I could say before we get in those spoilers. All right, I'll go. This one was a little. little rough, man.

The acting was really bad, and the writing was really worse. I didn't... Oh, no. I didn't care about anybody in this movie. I really just could not have given a shit if the zombies ate them all. The effects were good. I'll give them that. I wasn't mad at the visuals of the movie.

But, man, yeah, it was kind of hard to get through. I like that they kind of gave a little bit of an homage to the original Day of the Dead because it sort of had a reimagining of the same plot line so I get that but there's no way this movie

should have been attached to the original trilogy at all you know what I mean? Like how did they get the license for that name? It was there was actually one point with the the main lieutenant guy who was in charge of everybody who's just an asshole to be an

asshole and i have no idea how he got in charge of everybody because that dude like the second he spoke up i just slapped him in the face kind of like nighan huh yeah well no he's not like Negan at all. He's just this little, measly little dickhead guy, and he just is an asshole to be an asshole. And I don't know how anybody follows him. You have to, if you're going to be a leader, you have to have somebody following you, and there's no way anybody was following this guy. There was one point where he was talking to, it was a black female. I don't know if it was one of his soldiers or one of the

people that lived there or whatever, but he said something along the line. of uh i'm i'm i'm just trying to do everything that i can to protect you people and i so wanted her to turn and look at him and go you people people and uh and then he shot her in the head but wow spoiler alert yeah um save that man yeah getting ahead of yourself philip oh that's okay you know everybody's gonna rush out and see this now day of the dead well that's where this movie should have fucking stayed dead because do not go watch this one. I'm telling you it is not worth it.

You can try and it's kind of an effort to get through it but kudos to you if you do. I thought it was just that one asshole guy and nobody else was on edge

the way that they were in the original. That's why I was talking about that in the original. It was just this guy being an asshole just to be an asshole. And then I thought that the whole, I can't get into that because of spoilers. But the main zombie

had a weird, I'll talk about it later. I didn't like it. It was a bad movie. There's a thousand other zombie movies that you could watch that have the same concept as this one that are way better.

Go watch those. Wow. Fucking World War Z. had the same type of concept go watch that. Save us, Brian. I can't save you because this movie is a piece of shit.

January has been brutal this month. Yeah. Yeah, I think it might be, this might be right now the bye-bye man of this year. This movie is asking.

This movie is fucking the dialogue's horrible, the characters are horrible, you don't care about anybody. Everybody can die. Everybody's making stupid decisions in this movie and it's just fucking horrible.

And it makes me mad that you take something that has Romero's name attached to it and then you give us this. And without getting in the spoilers, you know, they try to do something with the character from the original one and it's just like,

what the fuck are you doing? It just takes everything away from what they tried to do in the original. That's stupid. They tried to add stuff to the zombies and... I got to see this movie. I've got to see this movie. Kevin, I agree with you on an entertainment level. I kind of like the Nick Cannon one more because the Nick Cannon one kind of falls into that.

it's so bad. It's good because at least it made me laugh. This one, I also paused this one and kind of came back to it later. I wanted to. I thought about it. Yeah, I felt obligated because, you know, we're reviewing it for the show. So that's the only reason I finished it. But the...

But you... You can see the ending coming, like a billion... 20 minutes into the movie, right? Yeah. That's why I was like, man, this makes it hard. Oh, wow. Yeah. Let's just get in spoilers because...

Rough stuff. What are your scores, man? Kevin? I'll give it a two. That sounds not too bad. Well, I'm only giving it two because I did like, I enjoyed the special effects. Yeah. Okay.

Whoever did it, did a bit... Whoever did them did a really good job. all right fair enough Mark you gonna go ahead Phil oh yeah sorry I guess

it was my turn yeah same thing man I'm gonna give it a I'll give it a three at least because of the special effects I think visually

the movie was really good it was just okay the writing and the acting was just really bad that's a shame yeah I'll probably go ahead

and give it a two some of some of effects was pretty good. And like you said, Philip, you know, it was shot well, but I, not in my right mind, can give it any higher than two. I'd rather watch

Last Key again. Yeah, absolutely. Me too. I was like, I'm ready to go back to the theater and pay money for it. All right, all right, boys. Y'all got to spoil this one for me. Come on. Fuck, man.

It was exactly what World Warzee, them trying to find a cure for fucking outbreak and the the fucking wannabe bub character was a was a fucking rapist a rapist guy named Max right yeah

they started with a flashback and so she's at the at the beginning of the movie and he is a character who is just in the hospital she's like a med student and uh he's he's got like an unusually large number of antibodies in his blood or some

shit like that. And so they're continually drawing blood from him. And he's like this creepy fucking what's the guy's name with the rats? Willard. Willard. Yeah. He's his creepy. Willard. Yes.

And so he has got some weird obsession with her. And then he tries to rape her in this room in the dark with a cadaver behind them. He likes to life. saves her.

He carved his, her name, and I think it was like his right arm. Yeah. That's what she, well, she was already creeped out by him, but when she saw, when he, look, I wrote your name on my arm, that's what she was like, fuck this. And then, oh, fuck. I mean, this movie was fucking everywhere, and I hated it. I don't know why they even had that part of the story. Like, couldn't they, like, if he'd have been her boyfriend or some shit, I think it would

have been a little bit better. Okay. Yeah. I don't know because apparently Max's, Lance, basically Max is the Bub character in this movie. Mm-hmm. But the way they built his backstory, you already fucking hate him. Right. So you're not writing for this Bub, huh?

No, I really like Bub. And then when you're reintroduced to him as a zombie, he's like this fucking stealthy ninja parkour zombie that's like sneaking into the military base. Wow. Yeah. And then he apparently he's because of the antibody. I didn't get that whole thing that it made him the, I guess he was the cure or something. He had to.

I was totally lost. Like something about his blood had the antibodies in it to make a cure or something. Yeah. He can still think. And he's like he's like a super smart zombie basically. But he's still a fucking zombie. How in the hell is he the cure? What kind of pseudoscience bullshit is this?

Yeah. Basically what Dr. Frankenstein character was like teaching Bub, you know, to kind of, you know, think again. This guy was already able to think on his own and he remembered everything and trying to talk and all kinds of stuff. And I don't know. I just thought it was fucking stupid. And apparently hung out in that fucking lab for five years. Yeah, he's so smart.

he can't open the fucking door to get out. He wasn't like fully dead because when they did the scan of them, there was parts of them that were still a lot of his heart and some of his brain, and I can't remember what else, but it was just fucking stupid. Yeah, man, he was able to think and he talked a little bit and he wouldn't eat anyone. Well, he bit a couple people just to kill him to get him out of the way, but he didn't like eat him or anything. He wasn't like your regular dead that was eating the,

eat. I mean, and it was just, I was like, what the fuck is this? When all that shit started is when I almost shut it off, because I was like, what was this shit over? What was with the people when, when someone got bit, didn't it seem like they were almost exploding with blood? What? In the beginning, when that one got pulled down into the subway, it's like the zombies just drug them down there, then you just see this big blast of blood go shooting up. What the fuck is going on?

It's a blood bag. Had to spend that $8 million, man. Well, and that's where they spend it, obviously. And every time that she tried to, like, defend this guy from the military dudes that were just trying to shoot him, because there's zombies, we got to shoot them. Like, I didn't feel for it at all. I'm like, why are you trying to defend this guy? He tried to rape you. Blow his ass away.

He still got blood. I understood why she was trying to keep him alive. just for the to find the cure thing but they did trying to find that cure and when they did kind of find it it didn't do anything it didn't go anywhere the movie was over and

like yeah like you guys said I didn't give a fuck about anybody in this movie even the little kids I didn't care even the little kids exactly just everyone died there was someone let off a bomb or something and let the whole cave cave in I was like just to end this movie

And we spoke on the dialogue. A lot of cliche conversations. You know, they had the hold on to my necklace until I get back little thing going on. And that stupid conversation with, what foods do you miss? And everybody's like just having a conversation. I don't know.

I felt like I've seen this movie as far as like some of the dialogue they put in it. Yeah, right out of the Walking Dead. a little bit, huh? Yeah. And they could not have made the ending cheesier. Yeah? Well, hey, we're in full spoilers. What happened?

Well, they find the fucking cure from the blood from this guy. All right. And then she gets some stupid little... Yeah, I guess. I kind of would have preferred her dead. She gives some stupid little speech. And her and her boyfriend, you know, walk away into the sunset, basically. Yeah?

All the zombies are dead. Huh? Go on. Okay, I'm looking at the castles. This is, this makes me even more mad. I guess the asshole guy in charge. Yeah? His name is Miguel Salazar in the movie. Okay.

So Miguel was the whiny, whiny crying guy from, so they flipped that whole character into somebody else. Oh, man. Turned them into a pretty boy. Yeah. Which him and his brother, they did not look like,

no, Miguel and Baca Salazar, not one bit. Oh, no. They were both about as white as you can get. Fuck, man. This move, Lance, don't even torture yourself, man. Oh, no, I have to see it now, man. This sounds like a strong contender for bottom five, man. Oh, yeah, it's definitely making it on the list.

Right now, it's number one. You can't say that for sure, guys. I can absolutely say it for sure. You know, it kind of gave you, it kind of gave you that when you watched the My bar man, you just knew. Right. This movie was going to hang around for the entire year. I thought a man was better than this one.

Yeah. Definitely. Oh, no. I got to see this now. But I'll be damned. Hold on guys. I'm looking on iTunes. I'll be goddamn if I'm going to spend $6.99 to rent this shit.

Right? That was my problem. Oh, man. Well, maybe it'll be on Netflix pretty soon or something. Just wait. Man, we're still the beginning of the year. It'll pop up on one. of these

stream. Don't pay for it. Don't look for it. If it just falls in your lap, watch it. Other than that, don't. Okay.

Even if it falls in your lap. If you get bored halfway through the movie and you're like, oh, fuck, I already know where this is going to end. I don't really want to watch it anymore. Just stop.

Just stop. That's a piece of advice that I can give you. All right. Like, I don't even really remember most of the ending. I know that the stupid little girl that they were trying,

to save at the very beginning was running in the direction that the zombies were coming. So that was fun. And somehow she still makes it out alive. Hmm. Oh, fuck. Never mind. I mean, I was going to say, everyone, when the zombies overran the cave, you figured that would have been it.

Everyone would have been dead because it wasn't really anyone wanted to run. But apparently there was a ton of them still alive and everyone lived happily ever after. And I was like, oh, fuck. I don't even think they explained how they got out Maybe there was a dumpster to hide under or something This fucking movie's stupid They had zombies I don't know who

I said some of the practical effects were pretty good But then how they made up the zombies Some of them were just like For some reason they're eating someone And they got the person's intestines Like wrapped around their neck for some reason There was a scene there was a scene I noticed like when they when the zombie seen another person to attack there

one zombie took the time to to unwrap the intestines from around his neck before he chased and I was like that that seemed kind of weird that dude doesn't know how to eat spaghetti oh man man all right well uh enough sad guys yeah all right listen uh as always we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. Of course, you can always reach us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com. And Kevin, again, where can they reach you if they want to reach out to McNaz or Skaternez?

You can leave a review or whatever, a message on iTunes or Podbean Skaternes Podcast Network or look up McNez Podcasts on Facebook as well. As the East Society, both have pages. You can reach me on there. Or just look up Kevin Nass. And yeah, I'm reachable. You'll find me.

Well, man, Kevin, I'm wishing, I mean, I'm really wishing that you can join us again next week, man. I will, definitely. And what are we doing again? Brian? A movie that we've been talking about doing since late last year. A movie that you guys are going to have to convince me is a good movie. We wish upon. Wish upon.

I'm excited about this one. And we're going to pair that with Wishmaster. Yes. Okay, cool. All right. All right. So, Kevin, until the horror returns again, good night.