The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #92: The Year In Horror 1976 - Carrie, The Omen & The Town That Dreaded Sundown (Re-upload)

Episode Date: October 29, 2022

We talk about Carrie, The Omen, and The Town That Dreaded Sundown. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

Hey, this is Sean Whalen, Roach from People Under the Stairs. You are listening to The Horror Returns. Greetings, victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify, go. Welcome. You have found the place where,

the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, one and all to the horror returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Phillip.

How's it going, guys? It's going good. The weather's finally getting better. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's talk about something other than weather. Yeah, no, right, Brian. Every time. Yeah.

Let's talk about Nauldens. You ready for Nowlands, Phil? Oh, yeah. Although, I'm not ready for it in the same way that you are, because you're going to go, like, run and stuff, and I'm going to be like, I'll meet you at the end with a with a mimosa in hand long as you got my back at the end man

yeah there you know got a drink ready for us when it's done I'll have a beer for you when you get there and the only thing missing will be you Brian I know one of these days I'm gonna get I don't know about running I'll probably be there with a mimosa with you but

no running huh no not these days. Well, why don't you run your ass into telling us what was your cool of the week, Brian? Samantha Bean had recommended a Hell House LLC found footage movie. Yeah. Checked it out. I will say it is one of the better found footage movies I've seen in a while. Really? Yeah. I believe Kevin checked it out and he gave it the official mark of hell of good.

Okay. Well. I never really know what that means Sometimes I'm like Yeah right on and sometimes I'm like Yeah he What did he come on Recently where He gave it a high score

But he just Shit all over it Yeah what movie was that I can't remember Well it wasn't witchboard that's for sure Oh gosh Because I think that when he gives an 11 out of 10 Yeah

Maybe it was wish upon. Oh, it was. Yeah, he was like, man, this movie really sucked. I loved it. Kevin, you are. We love you, man. You know that.

Also checked out Veronica, a new horror movie on Netflix. Just heard about that today. They were talking about it on horror news radio. Yeah, I was not impressed. Really? Yes, I and right now it's currently 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Yeah. I just, I don't know. I'm going to give it another rewatch. It is subtitle. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention, but it just, it wasn't working for me. Paco Plaza did it. He, uh, director of rec. Right.

You can tell he did this movie, definitely. Okay. I love rec. You're the original Spanish wreck, right? Yeah. Yes. Yes. there are some good moments in here it just but it just

you know it might be just a little overhyped it's a lot of overhyped because the thing right now is there's a lot of people that are saying it was like too scary to watch what you know anytime a movie gets tagged with that it's like okay well now we have to see it yeah because this has become the new have to see thing yeah there there was times I was on my phone not really watching a movie it was it got a little boring at times.

Yeah. Let's see. Got to the theater this week. Finally checked out Jumanji. Welcome to the jungle. No, it was it? It is a fun movie to watch with the family.

It looks like it's fun. So, yeah, can't really say too much. You know The Rock. He kicks ass in it. Kevin Hart, Jack Black, were funny. It's a good, good family adventure action movie. So, definitely recommend it. and last thing I checked out was episode one of

for season three Ash versus Evil Dead Oh cool. Yeah, I forgot that was out too. I checked it out as well, man. How did you feel about it? Oh, dude, I love it. Back to the old high school days, huh? Yeah, yeah, definitely if you were into the first two seasons, you just get more of the same, which is not a bad thing. It's an awesome show. Yeah, definitely.

And I believe Jack and who else, I forgot who else is going to be doing commentaries over at Binge? I'm not really sure. I think they may have already started those up, haven't they? Yeah, so definitely guys go over and check out Binge Media. They'll be doing commentaries for Season 3. And I believe, yeah, that's all I watched this week. All right, Phil. Yeah, actually, my cool of the week, I was trying to get it to be Veronica.

So I'll let you know what happened a little later in the episode because it does involve one of our other features. But I tried to watch it, man. And I did fall asleep towards the end because I was watching it real late at night. But I was kind of thinking the same thing. I was like, you know, it's not necessarily. a bad movie, but man, this got the overhype fucking shit

stamp on it, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I was excited. This so-called scariest thing. I really, I really enjoyed wreck. So, yeah. It's not bad by any means. I think it's

just, it's not even close to as great as everybody's making it out to be. I mean, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, It's a random foreign horror movie on Netflix that you don't hate at best. Yeah, I agree. So does it take place in Spain?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The building almost looks similar to the one in Rec, kind of. I mean, the whole outlay. What were you going to say? No, I was just curious. I mean, what was it about?

I mean, because rec was like a nonstop action. It was like, I mean, it was like a roller coaster ride of a movie. Was this just kind of like too slow paste? Or what, I mean, what is it that turns you guys off? Well, it's basically a Spanish Ouija movie. Yeah. Okay. And it just, I don't know, it just, I'm waiting.

You're just constantly waiting for something to happen. And then when something happens, you're just like, that's not really scary. Yeah. It's not anything you haven't seen before. Yeah, exactly. It's just foreign language doing it. Okay. Yeah.

Oh, man. Well, I'll tell you what, I'm going to, you guys are probably going to, everybody's going to fuck with me all week for my cool of the week. But, God damn it, I had fun watching it. I don't care what anybody says. Checked out another wolf cop. Oh, yeah. Oh, I haven't wanted to check that out. Oh, dude, it's fun, man.

Well, first of all, it's only an hour and 18 minutes, okay? So, you know, how much regret can you have for wasting an hour and 18 minutes of your life, right? Yeah. How long can they make that movie, really? Well, have you guys seen the first one? No. Yeah, you have, Brian? Yes, I have.

Okay, it's more of the same. Was there more liquor donuts or whatever they called it? Absolutely. Liquor donuts? Yeah. Side be the fuck up. Where's that? Yeah.

It's absolutely brainless fun. And I'm about to really piss off at least two listeners that I know that are huge Kevin Smith fans. But dare I say it's the best thing Kevin Smith has been in in the last six years. I didn't know he was in it. That makes me want to see it even more. He plays the mayor of the town. Perfect. Perfect.

Brian, you'll love it, dude. I am another wolf cop in here. You guys like trauma movies, right? Oh, yeah. Okay, it'll scratch that itch. Okay, and by the best wishes to Kevin Smith. I don't know if you guys had a heart attack. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it looked pretty bad there, but he's on the road to recovery, so best wishes to him. Yeah. Eat the right stuff, brother. You got to get your diet and check, man. Yeah, I read an interview. He seems to be having a different outlook on life because I guess he, He feels like he's on borrowed time now. Yeah.

Because it was looking pretty bad there, so. Yeah, he's got little kids too, huh? That'll do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All the best to him, man. We love a kid, but, you know, he's giving us a lot of great shit over the years.

Nobody can deny that. Fucking Jay and Silent Bob. Oh, hell yeah. Just for that alone. He's immortal. iconic. So, uh, hey, Brian, we got any. Any new things going on this week, man?

It star Chosen Jacobs has joined the cast of Stephen King's Hulu series, Castle Rock. Not too surprised there. Okay. Is he going to play the same character? You know, I thought that finding out that this is an anthology series set in the Stephen King universe. Okay. And there is other people from It that have been cast in this show. including Pennywise himself.

Yep. Which actually found out he will be playing an inmate at Shawshank Prison. So the actor, not Pennywise. So he's not going to be Pennywise? No, but I mean, it's in the Stephen King universe. You never know what they can do. The shank. He's going to be the fishy.

They could easily make him someone who's possessed by by the spirit of it. Exactly. That's true. Segwaying over to somebody else from It, let's see, Jackson Robert Scott, who played Georgie in last, last year's It,

he's casted in a new movie called The Descendant, and it's said to be, almost like inspiration comes from one of the movies we're going to review tonight, The Omen. Oh. Oh, interesting. I imagine that one's inspired a lot. Yeah.

So it said it'll be directed by Nicholas McCarthy, and he said not only will it be pulling from the omen, but it'll also be inspired by a bad seed. Oh, nice. Long since it's not inspired by Little Evil. The Crow remake has officially set a release date of October 11, 2019 and we'll star Jason Mamoa as the crow.

I still don't like that casting. I do not like that casting either. Physically speaking, that's the exact polar opposite of what the crow is supposed to be. It's almost like when they said they were doing a big trouble in little

China remake. Okay. And they casted the rock. He is far from Kurt Russell. Yeah. I'm not I'm not upset with the casting decision, assuming it works out. But what are they going to do to this movie to make it even half as iconic as the original? Like, why are you even trying this?

Because the sequels are so shitty. Right. I don't know if you guys ever seen. Like, one of them has Edward Furlong. You know what? Yeah. I've purposefully avoided them. They're bad.

I enjoy the first thing so much. Well, and even going back and watching them, watching the first one, it's super dated. Like, there's no way they're going to be able to catch the magic. I think it was just, it's the whole idea, it's like remaking the Goonies, which they'll do at some point.

But it's a dumb idea. Yeah, but it'll never be the same. It'll never capture that, what the first one did. Right. Sure. We will see October 11, 2019. I guess. Crash. Crash and bomb.

All right. This just came out today Netflix is making a new superhero action movie called Past Midnight and Keanu Reeves is in talks the star in it Okay

And here's the interesting Rick Fumiyama I believe I was saying his name He's directed 2015's dope And he's also directing the upcoming Charles Byrne Adaption Black Hole

He's set to direct with the Russo others, which people know them from Civil War, Winter Soldier. Yeah, the upcoming, the new Avengers movie, right? Yeah, they're going to produce. Now, hold on. What movies had this guy directed? Recently, he did dope.

I don't know if you guys ever seen dope. Okay, yeah, that's a pretty good one about the young kid, right? Yeah, they're like 90s, hip-hop nerds. Oh, dude, that was a really good movie, man. Yeah, yeah. That was a really good movie. He recently was attached to do the Flash movie, but he had dropped off because DC Warner Bros. doesn't know what the fuck they're doing over there.

Yeah, well, that might be a good sign too, because he obviously does good, like, artistic work. And then they have producers that have worked on big fucking Marvel movies. So it might be a pretty good combination. Yeah. Yeah, and I had read that Netflix is investing $8 billion this year into movies and original series. Okay. I guess you're ready for prices to go up, huh? Yeah, yet again.

Yeah. Yeah, before you know it, man, it's Netflix, to get Netflix is going to be as much as a whole cable package. Yep, it's going to be the other cable. Somebody needs to reel them in, man. Jesus Christ. They're spending money like they're out of control. Yeah, it's our money. They're like the government.

It's going to get... Goddamn college kid at credit card. It's going to get crazy here with these subscription streaming services. Because now I'm hearing that the Disney one that we had talked about is not going to feature any R-rated material. As far as R-rated material, they're going to have it on Hulu. That's cool. I can live with that.

I mean, that's not, you know, that's not like a deal breaker. And they said they were going to reasonably price that. Is that still the plan? because they were supposed to price it at like $599 or $6.99 a month commercial free. Yeah, they said it can even be as low as $4.99. Yeah, I'm all in. Yeah, but once you add everything up, you're going to be paying $80 a month. Yeah, you're going to be paying cable prices.

True. I mean, once you get all those different formats together and you're having to purchase every one of them, I guess it's just basically going to be just like what we're doing now. I mean, most people pay $100 a month or more for kids. cable anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Our final thing

we're going to talk about is again, Quentin Tarantino's Manson-inspired movie. You know what? I'm getting tired of hearing about this. Officially

casted Brad Pitt. Okay. I'm joining Leonardo DeCadrio. I'm officially tapped out. Fuck this shit. And didn't they change

the name to something totally non-Manson? Once upon a time in Hollywood. What? What fuck is I'm supposed to mean? Okay.

I'm all right with it, man. It's Tarantino. How bad can it be? No, I got a theory. This is a Cloverfield movie. Okay. They released a little bit about the movie. It said a story that takes place in Los Angeles, 1969 at the height of hippie Hollywood.

The two-league characters, Rick Dalton, played by DiCaprio, former star of a Western TV series, and his longtime stunt double, Cliff Booth, which would be played by Brad Pitt. Both are struggling to make it in Hollywood that they don't recognize anymore, but Rick has a very famous next-door neighbor, which is Sharon Tate. Oh.

Interesting. That is a little bit of information about the week. You know what? I already told you guys last week. I still haven't even seen the Eighthful Eight. You know what? I used to be the world's biggest Tarantino, Mark. I don't know.

man, this guy may have gone off the reservation. And I like that. Yeah? I kind of liked that, so. Well, yeah, the hateful eight was not exactly a commercial success. I mean, it was a good movie. It's very talky, but that's, you know, Tarantino's real dialogue-driven. Okay.

But he's still got his quirky thing from Pulp Fiction going. It's just not quite as cool as it used to be. Yeah. Well, we'll see. We'll see. I mean, I'm sure we're all going to watch it. Oh, yeah. And the release date is set at August 9th, 2019.

All right, well, not too long to wait. That is all the news. All right, boys. Well, I ain't going to be joining you this time because I try to get packed up for New Orleans, so I ain't going to make it to the park. But why don't you two boys take that little trip down to the trailer. Why don't, hey, why don't you guys bring us the good, the bad, the ugly, the weird, and all that other shit? What's going on?

First of what we're going to talk about is Demon House, starring Zach Baggins, Jay Walsy, and Billy Talley, directed and written by Zach Baggins. Is he related to Bilbo? That was the first thing that popped in my head. I'd ask. this is a I believe it is a horror documentary but I was a little

confused because it didn't really look like a documentary it looked like a movie that was being acting like a documentary yeah and let's see paranormal investigator Zach Baggins

documents the most authentic case of possession in American history and then I did some looking up on IMDB apparently the house that they filmed the movie in he was so scared of the house that he burned it down or he had it torn down

really so I don't know if this is an actual documentary I kind of doubt it I don't know see that was the look I got from it too I mean I'm always up for a good horror documentary I think that they're cooler when they're real but this looked like

and we'll talk about it a little bit later, I think. But it looked like a fake horror documentary that may have been once loosely based on fact. Yeah. And then made it into more fiction when it's a fiction documentary. Maybe what they did was maybe they had footage of actual stuff they shot for. documentary and they kind of mixed it in with stuff they filmed for

I guess a movie. Yeah. So. All in all, it looks shitty, but I'm totally going to watch it. Me too. And we will see this come out soon, March

16th. Okay. Moving on to our next one is Blood Fest. Starring Zachary Levi, Jacob. up Matalon, Tate Donovan, and others, directed by Owen Edgerton. Oh, Chuck, Chuck himself is going to be in this one, huh?

Yeah, and I believe, I'm not, it says rooster teeth is the company that's doing this. I've heard of that name, I'm not too familiar, but I recently posted the poster on our Facebook page, and on the poster it says the nerdist, so I don't know if it's one of their companies. Oh, interesting. this looks super fun to me I think the premise is they go to some kind of

concert or some kind of event and basically all hell just breaks out they think it's part of the show and they kind of seems like they find out they're a part of the show they're a part of the show they've been hanging out with Lars

from Denmark man it's like 31 but kids and some comedy mixed in. Yeah, I got the synopsis here. This sounds amazing.

Fans flock to a festival celebrating the most iconic horror movies only to discover that the charismatic showman behind the event has a diabolical agenda as festival attendees start dying off three teenagers more schooled in horror film cliches

than practical knowledge about neutralizing psycho killers must band together and battle through various madmen and monstrous monstrosities to survive. Oh my God. It's like 31 meat scream.

Man, this sounds epic. It looks really good. This was the one I was most impressed with. Oh, wow. And yeah, and this one is also getting a release date here real soon March 9th. So I am definitely interested in this one. Yeah. And our last.

our last trailer we're going to talk about is pie whack it starring Nicole Munoz Lori Holden which who did she play on the Walk and Dead I really hated her character I think she played the ah damn it Carl's love interest right no

what she was the blonde chick is this the one of the two that Carol had to put down the two yeah yeah yeah Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no. No. The older one. Okay.

Oh, my gosh. If you pull up her picture, you'll, like, oh, her. Oh, okay. I thought they were talking about the little, uh, a dark-haired girl. No, this is, uh, I can't remember her. We have listeners right now that are fucking screaming. I know, like banging on the steering wheel. Well, anyways.

The chick that's still alive in the comics, that's, that's, that's, uh, that's, that's, that's, God damn it. What is her name? Anyways, that's that chick. Let me start throwing names out. Michone? No. The main chick that's still alive in the comics. No, but she had a story arc in the show where I guess she met up with Michone

and they were like together for like nine months by themselves before they met it with the group. And she was sleeping with John Bernthal's character. The governor locked her to room with his own. Yeah. Oh, God. That chick. Are you guys talking about Andrea? she's still alive in the comics

Yes, she's rigged up. Her, her. Okay. Yeah, her. Anyway, she's in this movie. It just takes some time to get there. Sorry, guys. Also starred Chloe Rose and others,

written and directed by Adam McDonald. Okay. This looks like run-of-the-mill kind of ritual, witchcraft, summoning demons type of movie. but it's called pie whack it yeah I guess the demon is called

way better but possibly the most least intimidating demon name ever but on a plus side I have been hearing about this movie since last year I think it's been making this run through the festival starts so

okay there there might I mean I wasn't impressed with the trailer it wasn't like nothing I haven't seen before other than you know demon named Pye Wackett. Sounds like the Monty Python demon.

What's his name? Pie Wacket. I will watch it because I will watch it because Lori Holden's in it and I really hated her character on Walking Dead and she looks like a character in this movie that I might hate also. So we're ready to watch her die?

Yes, I am. All right. Okay, bitch. And this one is also coming out this month, March 23rd. Wow. Going to be a big month? And that is the last trailer. All right.

Phil, got any feedback this week? Probably not as much this week, huh? Let's see what we got for listener feedback. Regarding the movie Truth or Dare. Samantha Bean says sci-fi did this movie back around Halloween. It was pretty decent, actually. We liked it. After watching the trailer for Blumhouse, Blumhouse's movie, it's basically like they took the sci-fi movie and just hyped it up and added a ton of money to graphics slash explosions slash whatever.

Oh, Hollywood. She says, I'm a stick with the sci-fi one. Okay. I don't know if I've ever heard anybody say that ever. Yeah. Hey, whatever. About Brian's story, about Kurt Russell's destruction of the vintage. vintage guitar in the hateful eight.

Oh yeah. That's right. I remember that. The hateful eight, Ryan Stevens says, if this is true, that's a pretty fucked up thing to do. I didn't do it on purpose.

I don't think you did it on purpose. Yeah, he said he was just kind of improvising in the scene. Right. I really like Kurt Russell. I mean, you thought it was a prop, huh?

Yeah, I mean, it was a prop, but it was a $100,000 prop. Oh, no. And I, you know, reading a story, I was just kind of like, did you really need a $100,000, you know, antique prop guitar in there? There you go. That's rock star shit right there.

Darren Wilson says, yeah, the museum was officially pretty pissed when that happened. I imagine. Oh, well, Kurt Russell's got the money to pay for it, I'm sure. I should hope so. except that he probably didn't because he's like whatever that's not my fucking fault quentin where's your fucking checkbook all right uh Ryan Stevens also says uh black panther was fun I think it was a bit overhyped but I enjoyed it I think that's the best simplest review I've ever seen in this movie

it's making a lot of money yeah oh yeah I think it's gonna take the weekend a third straight week a third straight week probably would And I believe it's already Legendary status. Yeah, it's already surpassed Justice League in a total box office, I believe. That's not hard. That's not hard to believe.

Yeah. They're killing it, and it has definitely become a really iconic movie. Whether they're deserved or not, it was still good. Too bad. Too bad we're in between seasons on the

binge media movie league, right, Brian? Yeah. Did you guys? sign up for that this year? You know, I was going to, but I didn't. I just, I don't think I have the time. And the last time

I did it, I just, I didn't keep up with it. I don't even know a place I've placed in it or what points I had. I kind of skated in at the 11th hour. Oh, Phil, I should have made you put a team together, man. Next year, next year. All right, we'll do it. Okay, regarding mute,

Sherry Pierre says that's on my list watching Full Metal Alchemist right now. Thanks. Well, that's it. Thanks everybody who reaches out to us. We love the feedback. And as always, you can reach us at our Facebook or Podbean page. Or you can email us directly at thehorror returns at gmail.com.

Or if you wanted to, and I'm going to twist your arm here, go to iTunes and leave a review. We love to hear from you. Let us know what you think. Cool. Well, if we were going to have a low feedback week, this is the week to do it, because we're back to the year in horror, as we like to do every quarter or so. And that means instead of the usual two movies, we're going to be following, talking about three tonight. And the year in horror, this time is what year, Brian? It was a very good year. And I know that because I was actually alive back then.

You guys weren't. No, I wasn't. So it was America's bicentennial boys and everything was red, white, and blue. They were fucking parades like, I remember parades on TV like every fucking time you turned on the TV. I remember they had fireworks going on and old ships in Boston, and Boston, and Baxton Haba. They were showing that on TV. They were showing, hey, King. Kong, the movie King Kong had a bicentennial celebration in it.

So, yeah, there was a lot of public smoking going on. Every house that, I remember every house that my parents would take me to visit when they went to visit friends. Everybody had their own bar setup with every conceivable bottle of liquor you could imagine. Sounds amazing. Yeah, we were all born a little too late, aren't we? Yeah, I think so. Absolutely. Oh, man.

To be like, could you imagine being like 25 years old and single in 1976, boys? Right now. It's a good way to get locked into a high school gym. Well, let's move on to our movies. So, let's start out with the first one, which is the film adaptation of Stephen King's first novel, Carrie. Director of this was Brian De Palma, also known for Blowout. and Phantom of the Paradise.

You guys ever seen that? No, I haven't. I need... Ah, okay. That's got to be on our list. Okay. The boys from Helming Power Hour had before, and they sold me.

I'm glad you guys haven't seen it. We got to schedule that one for a future show. Cool. Okay. Ryder... Yeah, it's a cult classic. writer Lawrence D. Cohen, also known for Ghost Story and the original TV miniseries of It. Oh.

While speaking at a book event in Fort Myers, Florida in 2010, Stephen King recalled that he was paid just $2,500 for the movie rights to carry. Oh, wow. No kidding. Which may seem like a pittance, but he has no regrets in his own words. I was fortunate to have to have to have that happen to my very first book King said and as they say boys from there it's history right yeah I believe he's gotten the rights back since then I hope he has you know what it may be time for yet another reboot of this then

huh? Yeah that's that's classic like taking somebody's talent and just fucking him for it $2,500 I don't know, man. I mean, at the time, dude, it was 1976. And, I mean, what else had he done? And, I mean, shit, dude. He's got a point, man.

I mean, his first book ever got made into a movie. I mean, fuck. Yeah, but if they were putting that much into it, I mean, the book was already pretty popular. Yeah, and obviously spent a lot more than that on the movie, right? Yeah. Like, $2,500, at least buy the guy a fucking car. Right. A much of that 2,500 went to cocaine.

If not all of it. That's how, what was that trucker movie that we watched? Oh, maximum overdrive. That's how maximum overdrive happened. We're going to call it $2,500, but we're also going to give you a giant sack of cocaine. He would consider that. Deal. And one other little, no, two pieces of trivia here.

When Sissy SpaceX was preparing for her character, she isolated herself from the rest of the ensemble, decorated her dressing room with heavy religious iconography, and studied Gustav Gore's illustrated Bible. She studied the body language of people being stoned for their sins, starting or ending every scene in one of those positions. Wow, Sissy. That's crazy. I'm glad she didn't go full Heath Ledger. No.

She definitely took that method acting thing, though, and you could tell on this one. Sissy Day Lewis, huh? Yeah. And final thing, the prom scene took over two weeks to shoot and actually required a total of 35 takes. So, Who wants to go first? I'll go. You want to go first, Philip?

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't really matter. I'll go first. Okay. I think that this is one of the horror classics. The 70s was pretty amazing as far as horror movies go. I mean, talk about like the Exorcist came out a couple years before. I mean, just every year in horror we've done so far has been the 70s or 19th. and it's been like just three heavy hitting movies one after another um this is another one I think that this belongs on the top 10 uh all time of horror uh and I it's it's a classic

it doesn't hold up quite as well as I wanted it to um there's some scenes that are where the editing and editing is kind of put together and uh you know maybe the things that they're saying the back and forth don't make quite so much sense. John Travolta, talking to you, was not hit the best acting job in the world. Oh, you mean to John? I'm John revolting. That was pretty good. I think it was one of his first roles, you know,

so he was definitely playing the pretty boy. The mean chick in it, I thought, was... Nancy Allen. Chris, Chris, what was her name, Chris? She was super fucking smoking hot. Right. Yeah, I think those two were both in blowout too, weren't they, Brian? Really?

The other movie? I think so. Pretty sure those were the two main stars in that one. But they had pretty good chemistry together. She's a bitch, but I loved her. I don't know what else to say about this movie, man. I thought the imagery was pretty amazing. Towards the end where she gets all doused in blood.

and you almost stop feeling sorry for her and get scared of her, man, because she looks like the fucking creature from the Black Lagoon, like some scary horror movie shit when she's all drenched in blood and her eyes get real big and she, like, cocks her head to the side, you know? Like, they get that silhouette of her down and then she becomes a true horror icon. And I think that's what this movie is, man. It's one of the classics. If you've never seen it, definitely go watch it.

I definitely agree with you. It's definitely a classic. It is a product of its time because we don't get locker room scenes like that. Yeah, sure. Full frontal and. I know, right? How old are you else? Yeah, there's a scene in there grosses me out, period blood, grabbing on people.

Like, no, stop. Right. Stop grabbing me. Hey, man. That's the sign of good movie making, dude. Yeah. If it makes you uncomfortable. I mean, I was sitting there watching it with AJ, and I hadn't seen it in forever.

And I was getting super uncomfortable sitting there with my wife watching this scene, you know? Yeah. And Cissy SpaceX, she plays that role very well, that very socially awkward, weird, withdrawn kid. And I bought it throughout this movie. Because she's, like, pretty in an awkward way. and I also have to give it to paper, Lori. Man, she was just despicable in this movie and she just played it

very, that abusive, overly religious, you know, mother and that was also a role that I just completely bought into. Yeah, she's crazy. And I think everybody did a fantastic job. Even the girls that were picking on her, because I hated every single fucking one of them, that's what really,

gets me with movies like this. Bullies. I hate them. I hate them so much. And they played it so well. And one thing I had a problem with, there was, I don't know if you guys know the actress Eadie McClurg. She played,

she's been in a whole bunch of movies. She was, you probably know her from Ferris Bueller's day off. She played the secretary. Was she the secretary or like the assistant? The principal. Oh, yeah. Secretary to the principal.

She was the one with the glasses in this. Of course. How the fuck was she part of the cool kids? Everybody says he's a rad dude. The stoners, the loners, the geeks, the Jesus freaks, they all think he's one awesome, dude. I don't know the line, but. Yeah, I totally forgot she was in this movie. I didn't realize it was her.

Yeah, I had to look it up, and I'm like, oh, you're one of the cool kids. And, but, you get, 176, dude, it was a different time. But, I mean, I guess it just adds to how socially awkward, you know, Carrie is, because you even got, you know, the girl that's kind of like the nerd, not really as cool and pretty as the other girls that are also picking on her. Well, when the, when the teacher knows that, okay, she's the weird chick, then she's definitely the weird chick.

Oh, and there's a lot of, there's a lot of slapping going on. in this movie that would not go down in today, especially you guys, you got teachers slapping kids. You got John Tobol just slapping his girlfriend. Well, maybe not so much that. Don't call me stupid. I know, man. Those two were the epitome of a dysfunctional relationship, weren't they?

Yeah. And again, like I said, it's a product of his time. There was, you know, a lot of smoking going on in classrooms and principals' office. and just to throw out there, she was saying Billy very, very clearly with a blowjob thing. Mouthful. Yeah. You know what? I have it right here. I have it right here in my notes. I was like,

I don't know how much of a blowjob he was getting because she was clearly saying his name. Or there's just not a whole lot there to give a blow job too. Oh, John Travolta? But overall, thought this was a fantastic movie. And it is definitely iconic. You know, the pig blood scene is iconic.

The scene where she's walking through the fire is iconic. And then, of course, you got the very famous. They're all going to laugh at you line. Absolutely. So definitely classic. Dirty pillows. They're called breasts, Mama. Well, this was an outstanding novel.

For a first novel, it was really, really good. and it was actually a fast read. What? A Stephen King novel that's a fast read? What? You know, it's probably one of the shortest books he's ever written. And there's a lot of different directors that probably could have done well with it because they had really good material to work with.

But I think Brian DePalma was the absolute perfect director to take this movie on. When you get to that scene where, you know, Carrier, and William Katz's character are... The greatest American hero. The greatest American hero. They're up there about to be crowned king and queen. And you know it's coming. And that particular scene,

it could have been done so many different ways. Like a hack director could have basically just had, you know, the rope pulled and the blood's down and then they get into a bunch of CGI bullshit. But the way Di Palma, he is such a... He's probably... the best director when it comes to building suspense since Hitchcock. Because the way this scene played out, you knew, you knew from the fucking movie poster that it was coming.

Yeah. And they dragged this thing out where you're like, well, is something maybe going to happen? Yeah. Maybe Amy Irving's character going to stop this in time. Is something going to go wrong? You know, I was honestly, I've seen the movie probably a dozen times. And I'm wondering, is it really even going to fall?

I was doing the same thing. I was like, okay, maybe something will happen this time, even though I've seen it 100 times. Masterful directing. De Palma, he is, two things that he's good at. Building suspense and putting women in peril. If you see a lot of De Palma movies, he's extremely good at making you, you know, worry about what's going to happen to the main female character, and he's really good building up suspense. I can't think of a better director for this.

and the way that they put some of these scenes together, like where the coach was making all the girls do the calisthenics and stuff like that, and do, you know, penance for what they did to carry in the opening scene, and the whimsical music that was playing, and the way that it just kind of built up, and you could just see the character seething. And certain characters, like Amy Irving's character, you could tell she had a change of heart.

She was like, okay, maybe we shouldn't be treating her like this. Maybe we should be human to her, you know? She's a person also. And then you see the way Nancy Allen's character was going in the exact opposite direction. And you can just see her seething and just getting madder and madder and matter that she's having to go through this. For this stupid, you know, bitch, this fucking outsider that's not a part of our world. You know, she's not even, she's subhuman. I don't care anything for her.

And she's just starting to resent the coach and resent the situation. And that's great acting. And it's really great directing. So, you know, this was, it was a masterful film. I loved it. So do you think, okay, so what was her name, Sue? The one that was trying to be nice to her, right? Yeah, Amy Irving's character, right?

And says, yeah, and says, you can go ahead and take my boyfriend to prom, which, I don't know how that works. But do you think that they maybe were in on it? I thought that at first, but on this viewing, I had the impression that they were really honestly trying to do the right thing. And I think William Kat's character was just kind of like, you know, so fucking dumb that he was just like kind of going along with it. Did Amy, did Sue have something, you know, upper sleeve that she wasn't telling? And when she tried so hard to warn the teachers and the adults that were there of what was going on, I don't think either one of them had. I think they were honestly trying to do the right thing.

What do you think, Brian? Yeah, I think you're right, because I think, I think she did have a change of art. And what is his name, greatest American hero? William Kat. Yeah, I, I, you're spot-ard, because he was kind of just. Tommy, right? Yeah, he was just kind of, ooh, just going on, just going along with everything. Yeah, because it wasn't really, because, you know, like, like,

said, Philip, here, just take my boyfriend, go to the prom. And he was just like, okay. Yeah. You know, he didn't really need to know why. I don't understand how that ended up being the answer and everybody's just okay with it. Yeah. And, you know, I don't think they had any knowledge of what was going on. I think this was purely John Travolta and the other girl and just.

And them, them taking advantage of the situation? Yeah, because they're just fucking horrible people. I mean, we didn't even bring up when they got the picture. blood how they killed that pig. Oh, yeah. They were like assholes on top of assholes. Yeah, just beating the shit out of a pig with a sledgehammer while she's just like cheering him on excitedly. I'm like, you guys are horrible.

Yeah, that is how serial killers start. You're on the right path. That's true. You're right. Animal abuse. That's typical. So what do you guys think about all the symbolism in this? Like, of course, you notice the exact.

the exact way Piper Laurie's character was, just like that Jesus statue when she died? Oh, yeah. That was weird. It was almost like Carrie's character was like acting out the only thing she knew, you know what I mean? I'm sure that had something to do with it, yeah. Yeah, it was, what was with all those candles that were on in the house when Carrie got home from the prom? Human sacrifice. Atmosphere.

I guess. I mean, that was really weird, huh? It's like, first of all, how do you take the time to light that many candles? And secondly, where the hell did she find them all? Were they just laying around? I mean, what's up with that? Have you seen her mom? Probably.

Yeah, she was locked in that little under the stairs closet. I mean, she's like those kids that they found in California or what the fuck ever, where they were like 17 of them and they were all locked up. She's like that. which is just one of her. But was she really locked up? Because it's like once she got done doing her pennants, she just kind of opened the door and mom turned around and looked at her and said,

okay, you can go to bed now. It's almost like, it's like those animals that they say when you tie them up and they get used to being tied to something and then you can just drape the rope over the piece of wood or whatever and they think they're tied up. Well, I always took it as she definitely knew what the consequences were for coming out.

That is not the first time she's been stuck in that closet. Exactly. So I'm sure she's growing up like this and she's just, even though she argues with her, no, mama, all the time, then I mean, she knows how bad I'm sure that it can get. And obviously it got a little crazy when her mom decided that she was going to fucking stab her in the name of Jesus. Wow. Because even though she says. She tells a story like she got raped. I don't think that she got raped.

I think that's part of what's wrong with the rape culture. And she said, I enjoyed it, and I enjoyed it. Yep. That means that you probably weren't getting raped. You just had a bad decision. Well, we could go on and on about this movie, but we got two more to cover. So I think it's safe to say we're all probably going to give it decent scores, huh? Yeah.

Who's first? I guess it's me. I'm going to give it a 9.5. I think Damn, dude. You're on the roll, man. Yeah, I know, man. We've watched some pretty good movies lately. And again, I mean, this is, you know, if I'm basing it off the merit of

only the movie, then maybe it scores a little lower. But because it's had so much time to marinate and be a part of that elite group of horror movies. I mean, it's not just a classic. It's one of the greats. Like, this is a must see. You have to

watch this if you've never seen it. Nice. I'm going to give it nine dirty pillows out of ten. We have an uneven amount of dirty pillows. This is

this is definitely a must watch for all horror fans. It is like, when you bring up horror or even if you research horror like images from this movie will pop up. Right. Off top. And I believe it is one of the better Stephen King adaptions.

Yeah. And there's been a TV remake and then a few years ago there was a remake with Chloe Grace Moretz. They don't stand up to the performance that Sissy Space Act did in this movie. So it definitely

in my opinion holds up and nine out of ten. Cool. Yeah. Yeah, the story itself, obviously you've got to start with a strong story. No problem there. Check. The director, you know, one of the greatest suspense directors of all time, check. The acting, I mean, some of the best performances you've ever seen from anybody. Yeah, John Travolta was kind of just starting to feel his oats. You're right. I mean, he wasn't that great. But up your nose with a rubber hose. Well, yeah, hey. It was the start. We got to admit, though, it was the start of a very long career for that guy. Yeah. But yeah, I'll go a really strong aid on this one.

This was definitely one of the greats. All three of us highly, highly recommend if you haven't seen Carrie before. First of all, why are you listening to The Horror Returns? Yeah. And secondly, go check it out right now. this is on the prerequisite list you have to have seen this movie absolutely so now we're going to move on to another 1976 classic the omen uh the omen was directed by richard donner also known for superman that's the one with christopher reeve in it and also a movie we talked about earlier tonight is somewhere in the

conversation the goonies well there you go uh writer david seltzer Also known for Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, which we reviewed before for the show. Damn. And prophecy, which we probably need to hit at some point. Oh, yeah. We'll get there. One of the reasons why Gregory Peck accepted the role of a tortured father, conflicted with guilt, was because he had not been around when his son Jonathan committed suicide the year prior in 75. The biggest problem with shooting Mrs. Blaylock and the ominous dog

was that the animal was nothing like the creature he was supposed to be portraying. During filming, he wanted to lick and play with all the co-stars rather than threaten them. And final... I thought this was interesting. The taxi driver, who takes Thorne around Italy, can quite clearly be seen sporting a large bandage on his stage. thumb. This was because Gregory Peggett had accidentally slammed a car door onto his hand, nearly taking off his finger. What an asshole. It's because the movie's cursed. Yeah. Okay,

I'll start on this one if you guys don't mind. Yeah. Because as you recall, I kept making these stupid references to Little Evil, which was like a horrible attempt to make a comedic version of this. Little Evil, you should have stuck with the original. This is a really good movie. It's not as good as The Exorcist, but it has a lot of the same themes, in my opinion, because you're dealing with, you're in the context of a horror movie, but you're kind of dealing with issues that parents put up with in real life. If you've had kids, you know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, I hate it when the nanny hangs herself. fucking every time. That was an awesome scene. No, this is a definitely a classic definitely one that surprisingly

I've only seen it maybe once and I'm kind of surprised I hadn't seen it more. In fact, about a third of the way through the movie I was kind of thinking have I actually seen the full movie? But, you know,

then I saw the scene of the hanging nanny and I was like, okay, now I remember this. The kill scenes. Oh, dude, the scene at the where he's riding the tricycle and his mom's change of the light pole. Oh, yeah. I mean,

this kid is a little fucking shit. And the funny thing about this movie is that, yes, he is the spawn of Satan, but which of us has not dealt with a kid that's, that we've thought of as being just like this little shit? And that's what makes

It's so classic. These movies that are in a horror context, but they deal with real family issues, you know, it's, it was just a lot of fun. What are you trying to say that your kids are the spawn of Satan? Oh, we have a guest on the show. AJ, come here.

Come on. She's running away. AJ, hey, come here. We want a woman's point of view. We watched the Omen. Do you remember that one? Didn't want to see. it? Why not? You watch some

scary movies, but you specifically avoid ones that deal with what topics? The devil and things that can really happen. Religious horror. My wife was brought up Catholic. Those are the best movies. They're the scariest ones.

So what do you think about this one, Phil? I think that it's even more of a classic than Carrie is. Oh, come on, dude. Yeah, dude. This probably belongs in top five best horror movies. Wow.

It's, it is, it's, it's a masterpiece, man. It's got a hell of a cast for the time period. For a horror movie, like, who does that? Is it as good as The Exorcist? No. But The Exorcist is my favorite horror movie of all time. I do, however, think that this just influenced so much. many movies that came out. Final destination.

You know what I mean? Yep. This has got some final destination moments in it. Absolutely. That are crazy. Like a guy gets his head cut off with a paint and glass that comes off of a truck. There's like a spear that falls down and impales this preacher, right? That made me think of what was the movie about the police in England? Oh, Hot Fuzz? Yeah, that reminded me of hot fuzz.

Well, I'm sure they pick something up from it. Right. It's, uh, but I mean, it was like, just that, that imagery of, of the priest being basically crucified by a spear standing there like that. It's pretty iconic. Right. Um, the nanny that jumps off and, and, and hangs herself is shocking to me every time it gives me. Yes. I totally agree with you every time.

And just how almost. excited to do it. You know, just, hey, Damien, look in me. You know, it's all for you. You know, it's all for you. You know, it creeps me out every time I see it. I got goosebumps just thinking about it. Like, I'm not joking.

I think there's a difference in being a little shit that you want to pun across the room, which happens a lot. And being, and being legitimately scary. This kid has like almost no lines in the whole movie. Right. He is a scary motherfucker. He's got that look and that smile, right? He's just a creepy-looking dude, and they played it up to their advantage.

And Gregory Peck in this was amazing. The acting was on point on every single character. There wasn't... I don't really remember any scenes in this movie where I was like... I mean, it's from 76, so it's a little bit dated. But there's not any scenes where I was like, well, that was, you know, really bad editing that you can just, you know, give it, give them a little points for the time, you know? I think that they did a good job on all of that stuff. I'm sure it had quite a bigger budget than some of the other movies of the time frame.

But, yeah, man, this one, this one is, if you haven't seen Carrie and you haven't seen the Omen, go watch this one first. I'm going to agree with you. This is another classic. I'm not really into religious horror movies, that whole subgenre, but if you're going to watch a religious horror movie, this is besides the Exorcist. This is a good one. Yeah, and it has one of my most favorite horror themes.

Because when the movie starts and that theme kicks in, it is fucking fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. I think they won an Oscar for that score, huh? Did they? Yeah, I think so. That's pretty iconic music.

Yeah. There's just so much. I have a question. Do you guys think he knows he's the son of the devil? Yeah, I think so. Because I know, I think it's part two. Ah, okay. See, I haven't seen part two or three.

Okay, I might be getting this wrong, but I believe in a sequel. He doesn't know who he is until somebody tells him. And he's almost at first in denial about it. Right. And he doesn't want to accept it. So I always, because I've probably seen that, I don't know if that's the second or third one. I can't remember.

But I've probably seen that one more than this one. And I've always wondered, did he, as, as, what was he five in this movie? I always wondered, did he know he was the son of the devil? Well, from what you're saying, I guess not. Yeah, I actually, I heard of an interview. I didn't actually read it or see it or whatever, where the director, Richard Donner, described it as a story of the parents who have a lot of crazy coincidences with their kid that drives them into madness and possibly doing the worst thing that you can imagine to your own child.

Yeah, killing your own child, right? Right. So the scene where he, oh, I'm sorry, go ahead. I was going to say, in that situation, I mean, everything just happened as a coincidence around him, and maybe he's not an evil kid, maybe he's just a kid, and his parents are ready to kill him for it. Yeah, because I never took the scene where, I never took the scene where he knocked his mom over the rail as purpose.

I just felt it was one of those coincidences because I think that the, the, The nanny opened the door and let him ride out there knowing that that would happen. Hmm. So. That's a good. That's a good way. Look at, when I saw that scene, I was, I was kind of taken back to the shining there for a minute. Yeah.

The kid on the little. Yeah. The kid riding the tricycle. Yeah. Or I guess that was a big wheel, right, that he was riding. And then another scene that just fucking, it just drives me crazy is that the dog. I don't even know how you don't even want to film

that scene. I mean, I mean, you know, I know there's stunt people, but you just got multiple dogs just attacking you. Yeah. Fucking crazy. And then, yeah, like you brought up the decapitation scene, it

still looks good. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was pretty, pretty cool. All practical effects. Fucking thank you. If they had done this movie now, can you imagine how much CGI would be in there? sure yeah David Warner what a what a creepy character he was I didn't know what to think at first when I first started seeing him taking pictures of everything I thought he was kind of in on it didn't you yeah because this is one of those movies you just you don't know who's who's who who's in on it you know my my wife kind of came in near the end watching this and then she's just like well who's that person I'm like well they're kind of they kind of watch over Damien because you know they're kind of you know worshiping the devil type And then as we were watching a movie, you know, you kind of don't know about this guy.

And then you kind of find out he's not one of them. He's actually trying to help. Kind of observing everything. That night's Satan service. Which he probably should have minded his own business because you got the whole scene where if you're not going to kill him, I will. And I was like, hmm. Yeah. He kind of knew the handwriting was on the wall after he said that, huh?

Yeah. And another scene I always remember is the zoo. scene at the zoo. Yeah, the animal park or whatever. Yeah, those animals were not fucking with Damien, not one bit. Right. Right, and that's before all the CGI and shit, man. They got actual animals through that shit.

Yeah, I thought she was going to run over some of them baboons at first, the way she just like peeled off and very, very, this is a lot of believable shit that goes down in this movie. And it is definitely right there. with if you're getting into horror and you want to watch like the main movies that I think everybody needs to watch this is one of them definitely definitely goes down as one of the scariest movies ever yeah well very well filmed for sure um you guys ready for scores yep so uh who started this one you did i'm not keeping up very well we're over here a j's packing we're trying to get ready for our trip and i'm kind of like not keeping up with things too well. So for that, I apologize, everybody. But, uh, all right. So since I started, um, the omen, I did not enjoy it as, I don't think as much as you guys did. Definitely not as much

as Philip did. Um, I will say this compared to little evil. It definitely, it definitely is a classic. Um, see the omen, don't see little evil. And I'll leave it at that. Um, but, uh, I will tell you this. One thing that I thought about after watching this movie, And I had kind of a breakthrough, and Brian, you're going to really appreciate this. And I think I'm going to email Tyler Perry about this. But next Halloween, instead of Boo 3, picture this, boys. Hello. Medea versus Damien.

Wow. Damien has to win that. He's the son of the devil. Hey, but she's Medea, baby. I think she would put this little shit in his place. She would say, we are not having any of that in this house. I'd love to see it. I'd pay good money to see that one.

I can't believe you had me watch that, and we didn't even review it. It has so much to say about it. All right. But I did enjoy this movie, not as much as, quite as much as Carrie, which I gave an eight. So for the Omen, I give a 7. which is a good solid score. Nice. I am going to I can't quite give it a 10. I still

think it's better than Kerry, but it's not as good as the Exorcist. I'm going to give it a 9.75. We're going to get specific to it. Holy crap. Yeah, hell of a movie, man. This is a classic. This is a must see. Highly recommended. On a list of all times. I am almost there. with you, I'm going to give it a 9.5.

Damn. The acting is amazing. I was totally involved through this movie from start to beginning. The deaths are spot on. And then that music, like I said, is iconic. So, 9.5.

All right, cool. There you have it. Two movies, two high recommendations. So all of you horror historians who are checking us out, if you have missed either of these two, time to go back and catch up. We are moving on to another movie that's some consider a classic,

The Town That Dreaded Sundown. So a little bit of trivia. It was directed by Charles D. Pierce, also known for the Bigfoot movie, The Legend of Boggy Creek. I've never seen that. I haven't either. I heard Blind Frankenstein always talk about it. Yeah, we've got to check this on.

Got to figure out how to get it in there with a Bigfoot movie. All right. Well, it shouldn't be hard to do because there's about 25 of them coming out. So we'll figure something out. The writer was Earl E. Smith, who also worked with Pierce on The Legend of Boggy Creek. So there you have it. It's a sign, boys. We've got to cover it. This movie, all right, now we're getting down to the truth here. Truth Bombs, boys. This movie is a semi-documentary. and it really is based on the real-life string of mysterious killings that terrorized the people of Texarkana, Texas, in 1946.

The murder spree became known as the Texarkana Moonlight Murders and ultimately would claim five lives and injure many others. The only description of the killer ever obtained was that of a, quote, hooded man. Sounds pretty much like the movie, huh, Brian? Yeah, pretty much. To this day, no one has ever been convicted of these murders, and they still remain unsolved. But then we got this piece of trivia. While based on a true story, the film's creative liberty stray so far from the real events that Dr. Robert Kerr, a Texarkana journalist, wrote about the movie, quote,

Poetic License Has Rarely Been Stretched So Thin. and he described the movie as quote total fiction. So, you mind if I start on this one too? Yeah. Very near and dear to my heart. So I grew up a little young boy, very close to where Kevin's favorite character, Young Sheldon grew up.

Longview, Texas. And we were up in the northeast part of Texas. Texas, what you call the absolute armpit of the state. We're about an hour from Shreveport, Louisiana. And, yeah, country, country folk. Or as sometimes they say now, po-white trash. I'm sure you've heard that term, Brian. Yeah.

Lots of poe white trash up there around Texarkana. So, I got to see the trailer for this movie. I remember it vividly like it was yesterday, man. This is actually the trailer for this movie got me into horror. It was one of the things that really pushed me in that direction. My parents would take me on weekends. We would go to the drive-in movie theater. Again, everybody, if you're listening, you know I'm an old fart

because I was around in 76. So we went to the drive-in theater, and I remember one particular weekend we were there. Not sure what movie we were watching, but I saw a trailer for this. movie, it scared the ever-living daylights out of me. This trailer kept me awake for weeks on end. Gave me bad nightmares for months. It looked like it was going to be the scariest thing ever done. And I got such a high out of getting scared from watching the trailer on this movie that it pushed me into horror movies.

I really give this a lot of credit between this and starting reading Stephen King by reading the first King's story or book I ever read was The Shining and that was around this same time maybe a couple of years after. So I thought I was expecting a really scary movie. I was not expecting this

fucking low-down, semi-comedy garbage piece of shit that this fucking movie is. This movie was garbage, man. I don't know what the disson disconnect was between the incredibly scary trailer and the actual delivery of the film. But I'm going to be quiet now, and I'm going to let you talk, Brian.

What did you think? I, for a minute there, I was about to feel really bad, Lance, because I thought you love this movie, and I was about to shit all over this movie. This was boring as hell. I did not understand the tone that they were going for, because at times, it was serious and then it would get into like there's a scene where they're searching for the killer and the ladies

pointing at a trash can and a cat jumps out and then like wacky music plays and they're just looking at each show like oh shucks and some of the car like there's even car chase scenes or I don't even know that it was like almost comedic and then you had the deputy or the patrolman

what was it spark plug was his name? Spark plug was he supposed to be the comedic relief. Yeah. Well, I kind of like that one scene where he was in drag and the guy was fucking with him. I thought that was kind of funny. And I did enjoy, I got to tell you, I got a sick sense of enjoyment out of the trombone deal. Yeah.

It was fucking weird. At least creative. Yeah, but I kind of wanted to see what was actually killing her with the trombone. The trombone is killing her. I mean, he just seemed like. he was tapping. Dim bones. I don't know if it was his horrible

music he was playing or what. He's just not very good. The acting was really bad. Oh, man. I swear to God, there were, I swear to God, Brian, there were scenes when I could literally see the cue cards reflected in the eyeballs of the guys reading them. I mean, this movie's...

I normally would think you're exaggerating, but I don't think that right now. Yeah, because... And, and, Apolli. to anybody that that likes this movie and holds it up in high regard. It's a car classic, man. It's like one of those movies where, like, why don't we just start making

our own movies? Because I'm not an actor, but come on. There was just scenes, I don't know. The deaf scenes were not even exciting at all. It was just, I didn't, I don't know. I didn't understand the killer. Like, I didn't, I didn't know what, nobody knew what his motivations were.

and he just kind of like chose random-ass weapons. I didn't add it. I did the whole him using a gun thing. I didn't like either. Did he have a silencer on his gun? Yeah. I didn't know they made silence. Takes away from being a slasher flick, I guess.

Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck is going on? There were a few minutes there when I thought, hey, this is pretty cool. This is like literally one of the first slasher's ever. And then he would pull out a gun with a silencer. It was like, uh, not so cool. And there was just times where, you know, the actual, you know, character, the hooded guy. Right. There was times where he looked, you know, menacing.

But then there's other times when I'm like, why don't someone just kick his ass? And I don't know. Just I don't know. This was, I'm, I actually, I've never, this is my first time watching this. I've seen the, I own the remake, which I actually prefer because it's, the remake's done kind of cool. What makes it worth making a remake from this movie, though? I mean, what inspired someone to do a fucking remake based on this piece of shit? Well, the remake is pretty cool because they actually watched this movie.

They watched this movie on the anniversary of the actual murders. Well, I don't remember. I'm sorry, didn't mean to cut you off, Brian. No, I'm just saying I don't remember the remake that much, but was it in Texarkana? Or was it like a fictional town? I'm not sure. I can look it up, but I just remember liking the whole aspect of them celebrating the movie by watching it. You know, the town gets together and watches the movie on the anniversary of the murders.

And then, you know, so the murders start happening again. And though the death scenes in that movie were far more better than this. I don't want to call it. I'm not going to call it. You don't say. But overall, I just. This movie is only an hour and a half, and it just felt like it took forever. And I was very bummed because, you know, we got two classics in a row.

And then I know people hold this as a classic, and then I was eager to watch it, and I was just completely let down. Those people are wrong. Yes. Philip, give us your two cents work, man. I don't know if I can give it a fair review because I didn't finish it. I and I didn't fall asleep during this one

it was by choice I watched about half of it and I was like man this is going nowhere fast and so I turned it off and tried to watch Veronica that one I fell asleep during oh no

I knew I only had a certain amount of hours left and I needed to cool the week right and the town that dreaded sundown was not going to be it so I guess if anything, like you said, Brian,

it at least spawns the question. Buck, I can do that. Maybe it's, maybe it's given us some great directors of our time. Who knows? Could be. Inspiration.

I think, yeah. I think the comedy relief was completely unnecessary in a docudrama that was a sort of docu drama, but not really. Like, yeah, because there was times when, like, with the narration, it almost kind of had that, uh, Texas chains on Masker feel.

Yeah. And then it would just go into this like wacky, like, I don't know. It was like the tone was just all over the place. Yeah. What's it trying to be, you know? I mean, come on. Yeah, it was, it was crazy. The, the best part about it is, uh, when they were talking about it was in Texarkana.

and I'm like, hey, I've driven through that town a lot. And that's that's about the highlight of that movie for me. Okay. The killer was kind of cool looking for a... Yeah, I love the, I love the hooded mask or whatever it was. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There was times when, you know, especially with his heavy breathing. Yeah.

And, you know, he just looked like, you know, a killer. But then just, I don't know, just... another scene would happen and I was just kind of like what the fuck is going on. Like I said, man, when he brought out that trombone with a knife on it, you know, I kind of started getting that hostile, like that Eli Roth type feel like that torture porn. Oh, it had a knife on it? Yeah, he took, he used duct tape. Dude, he's so fucking East Texas that he took a knife and he duck taped it to the end of

the fucking trotron. Okay, that's how much I wasn't paying attention. because I thought he was just I thought he was just using the trombone. Yeah. Like that's when you go from cold-blooded killer to all right, dude, you've just got way too much time on your hands. Yeah, because he goes from stabbing people

to using a trombone. And then all of a sudden he has a gun with the silence there. I'm like, you're all over the place, guy. Right. Oh, man. All right. On that note, you guys ready for scores. Yeah, this movie was fucking uneventful.

There you go. That should be the tagline. This movie was fucking uneventful. I think I went first, right? Yep. Okay, so childhood memories of the trailer, I give a 9 out of 10. The movie itself, I give a 2. 2 out of 10.

Who's next? I'll go. For your description of the trailer, I'll give it a 9 out of 10. For this movie, I will give it a 2. I will probably never watch this movie ever again. Why would you? Wow. Why would we bother, man?

There's way too much good horror out there. Yeah, and I give it a 2 because I like to look at the character, and there was at times where, like I said, it kind of felt Texas chainsaw, massacre-ish with the narration. I give it, but no John Lurichette and no joint to paid to him to get him to do it, right? And it did have that kind of gritty, dirty kind of feel to it. True.

But then they would just... Stop it. You're going to get me to raise my score to $1. Stop it. No, but I'm going to keep it at a two. I just wanted to explain because my review probably sounded like I completely should have gave this a zero, but there was a couple points in there. I give it. Hey, I give it one point for the trompone and one point for the comedy.

act with the guy in drag. I'm glad you explained that trombone. I thought he just actually killed her with the trombone. It would have been cooler that way. Dug tape the fucking knife to a trombone. All right, nerd. That's when whoever was like his buddy was like, why didn't you just get a goddamn gun?

What the fuck is the matter with you? And then the next scene, he has a gun. Aye, aye, aye. Um, yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I didn't, I, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I don't, um, I have no reason to go back and watch it again. And, uh, I really look forward to not doing so. So, sorry that that movie sucks. This is one of the rare cases where we're going to say, check out the remake, not the original. Yeah, not a classic.

If somebody tells you this is a classic, they are wrong. Run the other way. Okay. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for hanging in with us. Hey, two out of three ain't bad. There you go. A love song. Fucking 76, man.

Absolutely. Hell of a year for movies. Fuck, yes. Any way you look at it. And we probably could have. randomly picked any third movie and it would have been hella, hella better than this one, right? Yeah, this was not hella good.

Wait a minute. Do you guys get the feeling that Kevin's going to write into us and tell us how much he loved this movie? I wouldn't doubt it. It wouldn't surprise me, but I also don't think that this is that big a movie, man. This is not even hella good in Kevin territory. All right. All right. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to

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Cool. We're trying to get you the best product possible. Full three, which is help us out. We are doing a GoFundMe to come up with a remake of the town that dreaded son. I know, right? I can't even get the goddamn name in the movie right.

I'm like the sound, I don't know, the thing that didn't like the moon, I can't fucking remember the name of. The trombone that saved Pittsburgh. Summer of Sam, but a long time ago in Texas. Right. Next week, Brian, what's it going to be, man? We are going to do The Strangers, Pray at Night,

and of course we're going to do the 2008 The Strangers, which is celebrating its 10th anniversary. Cool. So until the horror returns again? Good.