The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #94: March Madness: Greatest Horror Sequel (Re-upload)

Episode Date: October 29, 2022

We are joined by Michael Felsher, Darien Brock, Steve Carleton, Thomas Mariani, and Kevin Nez to fight our way to the greatest horror sequel of all time. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. The horror returns. And this week we're doing things a little bit differently. Although, as always, I'm Lance, and with me as always, our co-host, Brian, and Philip should be calling in any minutes. I'm sure he's going to be on as well. So tonight, it's that once a year event, March Madness. As we did last year, we're going to do a tournament-style countdown.

Find out this time not the greatest horror baddie who somehow ended up being Darth Vader. How the fuck did that happen, Brian? No, he's Darth Vader. Why not? It's not even a horror movie, dude. No. Okay. All right, so this time it's going to be the greatest horror sequel of all time. So that's what we're going to count down to.

So joining us tonight is our annual rogues gallery of horror aficionados to lead us to the Promise Land. From Redshirt pictures, we have Michael Felscher. Michael, what's going on these days at Redshirt, man? Oh, I'm very busy with a lot of DVD and Blu-ray projects for this year. It might be my busiest year ever, and I got a lot of exciting stuff coming up, none of which I can talk about. So I'm going to inevitably be quite disappointing in that regard. All right. Well, we'll still ask.

Oh, please go ahead and ask, but I will have no answers for you. All right, from the Padded Room Podcast Network. You guys are a network now, right? I know you got seven or eight hours. Can you believe that shit? All right. It's Darian Brock. So what's the latest over there?

man. Oh God, we got so many shows coming right at your face. From Sydney, Australia, we have horror for dummies, which just launched, and then we also have Cake Wolf's Happy Hour out of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, just came on board. So you want to talk a little bit more about where you guys are and where everybody? Oh, we're out of, yeah, we're out of Reno, Nevada. You can find us at padded room podcast.com. Anything you need to know about any of us or our affiliate programs you can find right there. All right. And from the League of Geeks, it's Steve Carlton.

What are you guys up to, Steve? You know, just the same old, same old League of Geeks. We just recently hit our 200th episode. We're going to be recording episode 202 later on this evening, and we're going to be reviewing Tomb Raider. Oh, boy. Yeah. Well, terrible.

But other than that, we're just really pushing hard on our Van Dan. marathon so that's been a lot of fun. We thought we liked Van Dan movies a lot before we started that retrospective. Street Fighter was a little tough. Street Fighter, I mean, no way out. There was one where he was like on a farm with some widow. Good Lord. Nowhere to run.

There you go. That's the one. Oh, I tried to block that one from my name. You literally have nowhere to run. Yeah. So that's always fun. But yeah, check us out, the League of Geeks.com. anywhere you get your podcast goodness.

All right. And from Horror News Radio and Decades of Horror is actually the host of decades and co-host of Horror News. It's Thomas Mariani. He has been called the hardest working man in podcasting. Thomas, what did I not mention that you're doing? Well, I mean, decades of horror, 1990s and beyond is the one I specifically host, and there's also the 80s, which I'm also a co-host of. And by the way, we're not playing basketball, right?

not doing that? No, we're not playing. Fuck. Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you. Christ. I can't play for shit. Fuck, back.

I'm so white, thankfully. Okay. We're good. All right. And of course, it wouldn't be the horror returns without our good friend Kevin Nez of the Skater Nez Network.

Kevin, anything you guys aren't doing these days? Everything with all the shows on the network. But I want to take this. Darren, you know, I've got on my knees for you many times. Whoa, I didn't know about that.

This ain't that kind of podcast. So we're not playing basketball, but we're doing that. Not that there's anything wrong with that. No, I'm just saying, I mean, it just depends. I'd like to know some of you guys a little better first. That's all. Yeah, no basketball, but definitely some ball play, right? Well, yeah, there's balls involved, apparently, but, you know.

If it wasn't a Darien in the padded room, I don't think I'd be doing what I'm doing. So, you know, I always got to show you the love, D. Thank you very much, Nas. always good to hear that. Right on. All the shows, McNaz, E-society, big guys out of necessity,

and the new show we just started up for the challenge. And you can get all that on Podbean. Just look up Skaternez, podcast network, and you'll see all that on there. All right. Well, I know Michael knows how this works from the days of

geek fights. So for all the rest of you, here's the Dunned down. Kevin, you were on last year, so you know how it works. Yeah. So we're going to start off with a field of 32 contestants, actually 33, for greatest horror sequel of all time. In tournament fashion, we're going to work our way forward until we end up with a final battle and a single champion. Our five guests will each give their best argument in each round as to why the chosen film deserves to move forward. At the end, we're going to have our champion.

It's that simple. We do have, though, kind of a twist we decided to do this year. We got a play end game. And this is two movies that some might consider the worst sequel of all times. So it's going to be interesting to see if they've kind of got what it takes to move on and at least make it one round. So you guys ready for the play end game? Yeah, we're ready. All right.

So why don't we do this? We'll start with Nez. So, Nez, give us your best argument, man, troll two or Jaws the Revenge? A troll tool is troll. A troll two is the supposedly worst movie or whatever that document you would call. Best worst movie? Yeah, I don't know. I take best of that title because, ugh, no.

It is what it is. I was able to meet one of the little guys. He played one of the trolls, so that was pretty cool. He's one of the little chocolatiers in Salt Lake City. I didn't know that until after I watched that documentary. But Jaws the Revenge, I always have a spot for Jaws in my heart. So I am going to go with that because Jaws, as bad as it was, in the warm waters of Florida or Jamaica or wherever the hell.

I think it was Jamaica. He would just swallow up all the trolls. So I'm going to go with Jaws. All right. One for Jaws. Bruce was only in the first one. Okay. Wasn't this Jaws as a granddaughter or something like that?

How does that work? In the book? Before he got blown up? He got blown up? Why do you have to go to the Jaws extended universe for this guys? Why? Don't say that too loudly. It's going to give universal ideas.

Maybe. Maybe. All right. And this is one of the babies. All right, Darian. What's your pig, man? Oh, God. I'm going to have to go with troll two on this one.

And my only argument is that it could actually be so bad that it's good. I don't think that Jaws the Revenge is so bad that it's good. I think it's so bad that it's even worse. Okay. So I'm going to take Troll 2 on this one just because it's, in a way, I think it's actually worse than Jaws the Revenge. But in a weird, multi-universal kind of a concept, I think that actually makes it better. So there you go. All right. Cool. Thomas? In a similar way to Darien, I would definitely say troll two, because I'm going by entertainment

value on these two. And I think between the two, troll two is just endlessly fasting to unravel. It's like opening a present, and it's like, what layers of hell are we unraveling here? And I think troll two is that better than Jaws the Revenge, though it is the most entertaining of the terrible Jaws sequels. Definitely listen to the Richard Jenny stand-up routine about Jaws or Revenge, which is hysterical. But I will go with Trul 2 on this one. All right. Steve?

Yeah, I'm going to have to go with Nez on this one and go Jaws or Revenge simply because in Troll 2, they were goblins. They weren't even trolls. He was writing the title. It's kind of fucked up, so, you know. All right. Well, I think it all comes down to you, Michael. Delightful.

this is kind of like Sophie's choice if Sophie hated both her kids and she's pretty much just tells the Nazis I don't really give a shit take either one both what do I give a fuck so that's kind of how this goes troll too is goofy fun you would expect a movie like that to suck it was made you know by Italian filmmakers here in the United States so clearly it was a language issue a dialogue issue an acting issue there's fun to be had but Jaws the revenge is a special kind of bad because it should have been at least watchable and it so is not. I mean, if you try to understand the plot of this movie, the wife of the character from the

first movie is haunted, she thinks, by a shark that is still looking to hurt members of her family, even though it blew up in the first movie and somehow manages to end with a shark coming after her out in the middle of the water while a guy zips sonar beams at it and it comes up out of the water roaring like the MGM lion, then at one point it manages to come up out of the water, stand on its tail fin for approximately five seconds where it gets rammed by the broken mast of a boat and then explodes into a million pieces. How can I not vote for something like that? So I'm going to have to go with Jaws of Revenge.

All right. Yes. Let's see if it can get past the first round. Phil, you ready? I am, man. I'm here. I'm pulling on my emails now. Sorry, I'm late, guys.

There it is. And plus, another argument for Jaws. Michael Cain's in it. Michael Cain. The Battle of the Underdogs. And the awesome, that is Mario Van Peebles. Mario can do that. Oh, shit, I forgot about that.

Depending on which version of the movie you watch, he either dies or he doesn't. doesn't. The theatrical, he died. Yeah, he died. VHS came out. That was when they added the, when he lived. That tells you something about that movie that they actually went back and saved him

because audiences loved his character so much that Mario Van Peebles was the saving grace of Jaws the Revenge. This is the most anybody has talked about Jaws the Revenge ever. Congratulations, boys. You did it. All right. Including the people who made it. Exactly.

A lot of love for Jowles the Revenge here. Oh, you can go back. No, no, I would not say that. No, I would not say love at all. All right, Phil, you ready for the first round? I think so. This is the start at the top. You have your bracket?

I believe so. All right. I've still got Gremlin's too on there. What is, uh... It's on it against that. Give me a second. I'll wing. it. All right. So we've passed the

preliminary battles. It's time for our main event, ladies and gentlemen. We're going to go. Exorcist 3 against the winner of that round, which was Jaws. You know it. And that's exactly how you should say that too.

Jaws? Jaws. A Jaws sequel in the battle for best sequel. Let's see how it turns out. Who's ready to take the first crack at this one?

Don't everybody speak it once. I'll go, I'll go just to get it out of the way. Exorcist 3. I'll talk more about that later because if it loses to Jaws the Revenge in this round, I'm hanging up. Okay. Enough said. Jaws the Revenge really only won because it was going against

Troll 2, against any other movie. It barely won. It was a split decision. Yeah. Exorcist sequels are a little like Jaws sequels. Not this one. Not this one. We're not talking about Jaws 2.

We're talking about Jaws 4. Yeah, Jaws 2 didn't even make it in here. How did we end up with Jaws the revenge for Christ's sakes? The best bad sequel, ladies and gentlemen, that's what this is. Well, I'm going to go, I would say Jaws again, because if you saw Shark Exorcist, what? if you saw that's a real thing

oh my god I was pretty sure that was a joke until now no it's real and it's real it's still kind of a joke but it definitely happened I'm going to have some money to waste so they added jaws to the exorcist and you got shark exorcist so

I'm going to go with that because just because I love Jaws and Exorcist all in one one one movie shark exorcist but that doesn't really not the movie you're fucking arguing well I don't understand

so why can't you go with Exorcist 3 then I don't are we allowed just to insert other movies that we like better into the exact or that's the case I'd like to take the shark

exorcist please negative the rules imply Jaws the revenge or Exorcist 3 who will it be well no when are they going to be near the water

so but I'm still going to go with Jaws just because there you have it one vote for Jaws. I'm going to take the Exorcist 3 because I've seen both movies.

All right. Fair enough. Exorcist 3. Steve, did you chime in? Uh-oh. You there, Steve? Oh, sorry. My microphone was on mute.

Yes. Exorcist 3. Okay. Definitely is my pick. Like I said earlier, Jaws 2 barely won the other round. Yeah. Fair enough. Jaws 4.

Sorry about that. So I think, is it just you, Thomas? are we still having this round as Exorcist 3 Let's move up Okay cool Yeah Thank you

Yeah Exorcist 3 moves on Exorcist 3 By a land side Ladies and gentlemen Our next round What do we got? It's like we have

Evil Dead 2 All right The uh What You're the fucking announcer Dude You tell us Right

And you got to You got to bring in Some announcer voice with it It's Evil Dead 2 versus Critters too I'm working on it. It was just a late entry. You gotta get that Bruce Buffer voice going on.

The biggest is the baddest, the very first big bad Evil Dead sequel, Evil Dead 2 with Ash. And in the blue corner, you know them, you love them. They're cuddly, they're cute, they'll eat you to pieces. It's critters, dude. Let's get ready to rumble. That was pretty sweet. That's awesome. More of that, yeah.

Yeah, we're working on. Okay, who's first on this one? I'll start. People Dead 2. Yeah. I know. Okay. Got to.

Yeah, Evil Dead 2. It pretty much put that fun twist on the original Evil Dead movie and, you know, it took that up, it raised the notch a little bit. So, yeah, my vote's definitely going to go with Evil Dead 2. I remember next to nothing about Critters, too. So I'm going to have to take Evil Dead 2 also. Fair enough. That's everybody.

Did Critters 2 even have the space, the intergalactic bounty hunters? I'm sure it did. And there's a whole sideplie about one of them getting killed off. Spoilers for Critters 2 for all you people who haven't seen Critters Sue and care. But yeah, I mean, I always was more of a Grimlands kid. So fuck Critters in general. That being said the first two are fine for what they are. But Evil Dead 2 is easily, like as we keep mentioning, it's the most surreal cartoonish,

on this list, so I have to put it on here. Evil Dead 2. Evil Dead 2. Evil Dead 2 it is. Takes the round. Okay. I didn't vote. Hey, hey. Oh, I'm sorry, dude. All right. Hey, Phil, uh, heads up, man. If he, uh, write the five names down

and just kind of call them out in order and mix it up. It's the best way to do it, dude. It avoids anarchy. I'm feeling I'm walking in the house, man. I got limited stuff here. Chaos, man. It's just just,

It is chaos. Well, let me just cast one vote in favor of Critters 2. Not that I wouldn't have voted for Evil Dead 2 anyway, but I happen to really love Critters too. I think Mick Garris, it was his first film. I think he did a really good job with it. It's a lot of fun, and I actually like it a lot more than the first movie. So I would like to see some love get to it.

It just had the unfortunate, you know, unfortunately it's up against Evil Dead 2 and Evil Dead 2. I couldn't in good conscience have voted against it, but since it doesn't matter. one vote of love for Critters 2. That's a problem with a lot of the films on this list. I call this game rigged, rigged all the way. Look, some are better than others. If you want to be the best, you've got to beat the best. That's how the game works.

Okay. Evil Dead 2 takes it with a landslide. All right, in our next bout, we have the man who ruined hockey forever. Jason Borges in Jason lives. And in the red corner, we have the whole of humanity just trying to stay live in Day of the Dead. Which one? Day of the Dead.

Which one? The original Day of the Dead. There is only one. Move on. Jesus Christ, not that last one. Or any of them, aside from the real one. Right. Jason lives.

Oh, there's a Kevin Nesvote. I mean, I'll jump in and say this is the first one I actually have difficulty with, because Day of the Dead is a great movie, the most underrated of that original trilogy. But again, Jason lives, I would argue, is the best writer of the 13th, mainly because it is the first sort of meta sequel in a lot of ways. and I think it broke a lot of ground, especially for a studio release sort of horror sequel. But Day of the Dead still deserves so much love,

but it's so close, I'll go with Jason Lipset. I'll take it. Day of the Dead is the third sequel. Sure, it's St. Patrick's Day. I'm a bit drunk, maybe. Come on. And I'm keeping it green. Hell yeah.

Yeah, you're in California. Of course you are. I've lost track of who's gone wearing what for here. Jason Lids are. Day of the Dead. What is your vote? Who's that for? You. Could someone write down the names of the people who are here?

Is this the horrible sequel to last year's version of this? No, no, no, no, no. The original, yeah, the original Day of the Dead. That was... We need to write down the names and make some kind of order here because this is a little bit... I don't even know what's going on. I'm having fun. You guys are great. Yeah. Sorry, man. All right, so I'm going to chime in with my vote.

My vote is for Jason Live simply because of the freak electrical accident that brings Jason back from the dead. It's completely outlandish and amazing at the same time. And I'm a big sucker for the big guy in the hockey mask. Fair enough. All right. So that's three for Jason, yeah? Good, yes. That's a question for Phil, I think.

I know, dude. We don't have anyone. We don't have anyone. I don't have a bit in front of me. I'm trying to make it work with the limited stuff that I have available. You don't have a piece of paper and a pencil? No, I don't have a piece of paper. All right. I'm going to give you a minute.

After this one, I'll announce the next one. Okay. Good. Please do, yes. All good. Sorry, dude. Okay, who hasn't voted yet? It almost sounds like Jason Lives is moving on.

Well, Jason Lives is definitely moving on because he's got the majority vote already. Anybody want to get some love? I was going to take Jason Lives, too. Oh, I'm going to cast my vote for, look, I enjoy Jason lives a lot. It has a really good sense of humor. And it's just a very entertaining film overall. But Day of the Dead, it's not even close. In fact, I think it's more than a little embarrassing that Day of the Dead is going to

lose out to Jason lives. And I personally think you're all fucked in the head. But you know what? That's fine. You know, we'll just go with this. all right all right ready to move on to the next round we've got roll with lands take over for a man i'll get this paper i'm in until you say the word all right michael we got bride of chucky versus the purge anarchy what's it going to be cares um i don't look uh no i mean i've seen both

and i like both of these movies i thought bride of chucky was the first child's play movie that really understood how stupid the whole thing is. And it just kind of went, okay, they're killer dolls. Let's just have fun with this. So I give that one a lot of credit. And Purge Anarchy actually thought, you know, it was the next really good advancement in the series. And it's a lot of fun.

I want to go with Brad Chucky because it's the one I would probably put into watch right now if I had to pick between the two. So that's the one I'm going with. All right, cool. Naz. I'm sorry, I lost you guys for a second. Yeah, that's why we called you next, Van. make sure you were back on.

We're doing Bright of Chucky versus Purge Anarchy. All right. Chuckie, it is. Thomas? I will go, it's definitely Bright of Chucky for me. I think Purge Anarchy was a step above the very low bar of the first movie. Though I would honestly say election year is even a better movie than Anarchy is. But Bright of Chucky, I think it evolved a series a bit.

It gave it that sort of scream flavor and did some fun things with it. So despite having Catherine Hegel in it, I go with Bride of Sheld. All right, Nez, can you hear us better now? Yeah, I'm back. All right. Do you get the two? Bride of Chucky and Purge? Purge Anarchy is when they were down in L.A. in the streets, right?

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm going to go with Purge Anarchy because the gangs of L.A. will never die. And I hit Bridea Chucky. Okay. All right. All right, Darian.

I'm taking the purge anarchy also. Anything that involves a moving truck with a gatling gun, and it is a-okay in my book. And I refuse to vote for anything of Chucky. Child's play, perhaps, but of Chucky, not so much. All right. So, Steve, it all comes down to you, man. Yeah, so this one's tricky, right? Bright of Chucky, they kind of added that little funny bit to it.

And then the Purge Anarchy, they really, took what they did in the first one and really took it up to another level. They showed you everything that was going on outside of that stupid fucking house. So I'm going to have to go with the purge anarchy just because I'm not a Jennifer Tilly fan. Okay. How dare you? It's like nails on a chalkboard, man. All right.

That was a close with the purge anarchy is moving forward. Next, we've got Nightmare on Elm Street 3, the Dream Warriors. versus the recent Annabelle creation. Thomas, what's it going to be? You know, this is tough for me in terms of Nightmare 3, obviously. It's probably the one made Freddy the star that he is, but at the same time Annabel Creation is the first of many films in this list where it's following up a shitty, awful piece of shit first movie

and making actually something good out of it, which is also very admirable. It's very tough, but I got to go with Nightmare 3, if nothing else, for having Dick Cavett kills Ozakaboard. That is alone. Makes it slightly better with me. All right. Nez.

I do want to dream some more, so I'm going to go with the Dream Warriors. Dream Warriors. Okay, Steve. Yeah, Dream Warriors, again, too much iconic stuff in that one. Like you guys were talking about earlier, it's Freddie, you know,

welcome to primetime bitch. It's what brought him out as to be the character that we know and love. And plus, I never saw him about creation. Dream Warriors. it is. Dariam? Yeah, I got to go with the Dream Warriors, man.

I think Annabelle Creation is a pretty good movie. I think it's probably a better sequel, but I think Dream Warriors is just an all-around better horror film, so I got to go with the Dream Warriors. All right. Michael, is it a clean sweep? Just quick question. Does Annabelle Creation have a theme song by Dawkin?

No. No, it does. Then Nightmare 3, it is. Hell yeah. It's the Annabelle Creation. Come on, guys. Dawkins' best new son. What year are we in?

All right, Phil. Hopefully you're in 2018 now. Yes, sir, man. I'm here. All right. So our next bracket is going to be hellbound. And 28 weeks later. So, Thomas, what do we think about that one?

This is, I mean, for me, 28 weeks later isn't, I don't think, a great secret. It's a serviceable sequel, but at the same time, Hellbound is the most uneven, I think, that's on this bracket, because there's stuff about Halbound I love, but also introduces the idea that Penn has a backstory, and he was a human once, and he's like, wait, I remember, which is the moment where the series starts going to shit for me, personally.

So between the two, I will go slightly more in favor of 28 weeks later, but it's not with a lot of endorsement, to be fair. Cool. Nez, what do you think, buddy? Hellbound. Nez, we'll skip. I'm here. I hear him.

I hear him. There he is. Nez, you there? Yeah, I'm here. All right, man, what you think? 28 weeks later or hellbound? 28 weeks later, I do like it. It is a good sequel, in my opinion.

But hellbound is just so much more awesome. And, yeah, I'm going to go with Hellbound, Hell Ranger 2. Oh, check that out. All right, Darien. What's our vote? Yeah, I think I got to go hellbound on this one. I'm not at all mad at 28 weeks later, but I'm a pinhead guy, man. I got him tattooed on my back.

I think anything involving pinhead is going to get my vote, no matter how bad it is. Ooh, could be fight of the night. Steve. Put a pin in that. Put a pin in that, motherfucker. We'll get to that in a second. You haven't seen judgment, have you? I have not seen judgment.

But if it was on here, I'd vote for it anyway. I don't give a fuck. Wow. You might want to reserve your judgment. I don't know about that. that. Steve, what do you think? Well, I mean, Jeremy Renner does fly a helicopter, you know, tilted forward through a horde of zombies.

So just for that one scene alone, I'm going with 28 weeks later. Plus, the soundtrack is unbelievable. I forgot he was in that movie. That is a great scene. It's pretty badass. Michael, what do you think, buddy? I think 28 weeks later is a very decent sequel. that's very well made. I have no issues with it. However, I thought Hellbound Hellraiser 2

did probably the best out of all the sequels for Hellraiser in expanding the mythos a little bit, giving a more operatic approach to the film, getting it out of the house, and really expanding the story. And I just thought the effects on the acting were above, you know, above average. And overall, it still stands the test of time. So I'm going to go with Hellbound Hellraiser 2. Oh, taking the lead at the last second, Hellbound 2. is our hellbound is our winner. Next bracket we got Insidious 2 versus

you know them, you love them. They're little, they're not quite as cuddly. They teach you to follow the rules. Don't feed them after midnight, ladies and gentlemen. It is Gremlins too. Darian, what do you think about that one? That's a tough one. I think I'm going to have to go with Insidious 2.

I like the bright and black. I never was a big fan of the Grimms. Man, they seem like they should have been cartoon characters to me. I think they were at one point, right? Yeah, I'm sure they were now that you mention it. Yeah, kind of on the outskirts of horror. I get that. Michael, what do you think?

Nothing, I guess, insidious two, but Gremlins, too, for me, is one of the most creative, off-the-wall, just, you know, bonkers sequels ever made. I remember seeing that in the theater in 90 and just being blown away. And I was a big fan of the first movie. And I like the fact that Joe Dante pretty much said, well, I just want to go crazy and make a Looney Tunes cartoon movie out of the first movie. And I don't give a shit of people who really like the first movie don't get what I'm going for here. It was actually a very brave and very adventurous film.

And I think that had it not come six years after the first movie, it probably would have done a lot better. But the fact that it's endured as well as it has and the fact that it inspired a kick-ass Keene Peel sketch a few years ago, I think I would have to, without a doubt, give it. this to gremlins too. Plus Rambo, right? Gotta go with that. Steve, what do you think? Yeah, I'm going to side here and go with Gremlins too, simply because

of the amount of variations they had with the Gremlins, and they had like a vegetable Gremlin. They had a Gremlin that flew out of the wall and made a bat symbol. They had, it was just all over the place, all over the place. And the guy, it was like Trump Tower almost. Daniel Clamp.

There you go. It was like inside that building It was awesome, man. So I'm going with Grimlins, too. Gremlins taking the early lead. Thomas, what do you think? Yeah, it's a great contrast because Gremlins 2 does so much creative, interesting stuff with the original movie following it up as Michael Menz.

And Insidious 2, fucks that up completely. It's a fucking terrible sequel. I hated so much, easily Grimelins 2. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Kevin Ness, what do you think? just for fun. Grimlins, too, because my man Dee loves him so much.

They took some of the guys out in his little horror challenge on the last year. Miss me off. Fult the seeds over, Darien. In a landslide, we got Grimlins, too, as the winner. All right.

Now the sister of Day of the Dead. We've got people just trying to stay alive, ladies and gentlemen. It's Dawn of the Dead. And in the other corner, we got the collection. Which Dawn of the Dead are we talking about?

The Seventh of the Dead. No remakes in this bad boy. Yeah, I kind of like the remake of that one, though. Yeah, me too. Well, yeah. The Dawn of the Dead remake is a movie. The day of the Dead remakes are not.

Fair enough. And also, the Donald Dead remake doesn't have any rapist zombies in it, so immediately it's the better remake. That's true. That is true. Kevin Nez, buddy, what do you think? Donald of the Dead is my favorite zombie movie of all times, so I'm going with that.

Change the face of zombie movies. Thomas, what do you think? You know, the collection, really is the underdog in this round. Obviously, I love Donna of the Dead for so many reasons. I'm going to give some love, though, to the collection, because I think it's going to die on the vine here. But really,

the collection, I think, really improves so much on the first movie, and more importantly, has one of the best endings in horror sequel history, I honestly think. So I will go with the collection, though I'm sure Donald is going to run this round. So let's just let me die. Let's just keep going.

Voting for the underdog. Okay, I like it. bold choice uh steve what do you think uh don on the dead again another helicopter scene with a zombie pretty dope well yeah

helicopters and zombies seems to go well yeah it's a match made net hey wait a minute is that helicopter Kevin or is that helicopter that's a helicopter it's only hella if you're in California it's true it's true

uh michael what do you think you know the collection really is quite a good sequel I have to admit I can't even finish as Dawn of the Dead Okay I thought we were going to make it a fight And just a Fondarian

What do you think buddy How bad ass would it be To be trapped in a shopping mall During a zombie apocalypse I gotta go with the Dawn of the Dead on this one man I think you have to Good choice ladies and gentlemen Dawn of the Dead is our winner

I'm crailing the collection's corpse right now So young so young. All right, that finishes out the first half of the first round. Brian, you ready to jump in? Yeah, let's just get right into it. Halloween 3, Season of the Witch versus Rec 2. Nez.

I got to go to Halloween 3. It's awesome film. I do love Rec 2, but Halloween 3 is, to me, it's just so much more of a better film. and I just love at St. Patrick's Day. So, yeah, Silver Shamrock. Dary. Halloween 3.

You can't beat Tom Atkins beating up robots. You're not going to get any better than that. Right. Thomas. You know, this argument is for Best Horror sequel, and as much as I do enjoy Halloween 3 and think

it's very underrated in that series, it isn't technically really that much of it at all. It's a great moment. movie on its own, but I would say rec two does basically, we'll talk about this a bit later, but it is the aliens to the original Rex alien in a lot of ways.

So I will go with rec two on a technicality. Right, Michael. I have nothing against rec two. I think it's a fine film. However, Halloween 3 for me has been critically underrated for many years, although not so much anymore, thankfully. It's endlessly

creative and weird and wacky, and it's got Tom Atkins running around trying to kill a bunch of androids and it's, you know, look, at the end of the day, if you ask me to try to sum up what that movie is about in a minute, I don't know if I could do it. It's just one of those films that resist description and you got to give it up to any movie that goes out so far on a limb to give you something new that even if it's not 100% successful, which I think this movie almost is, it's just too good an opportunity. So even though it doesn't have any Michael Myers in it, which I don't get it.

a shit about, I still got to give it to Halloween 3. All right. Steve, even though I know where your vote's going, what is your vote? Well, I might surprise you because Wreck 2 is fine, but it doesn't have a little kid's head exploding into a bunch of snakes. It doesn't.

On that basis alone, Halloween 3 it is. Even though I really don't like that movie. But it still has some very creative fun things in it. All right, moving on. Rob Zombies. The Devil's Rejects versus Amityville 2, Steve? Oh, boy.

I'm going to go with, oh, fuck, that one's hard. Just because I'm not a big, huge fan of Rob Zombie and his movies. I think that he thinks of himself as quite the artist, and a lot of it's just like, hurry up, man. Let's get, let's go. So much dragging on. I'm going with Amityville 2. just because I'm not a fan of Rob Zombie.

Brian Michael. This was the first one, actually, I think, out of this whole competition that's actually really difficult for me because I really love Amityville, too, because it's such a perverted, weird-ass, nasty film. And it really, for me,

it's just got so many bizarre, just over-the-top elements, and it is genuinely creepy and unsettling, and I liked it a lot more than the first movie, and pretty much any of the sequels that have come after that. And so I dearly love it, because it's a twisted up as fuck movie.

However, Devil's Rejects for me was, and I've had an uneasy relationship with Rob Zombie's films to some degree. I've liked some of them. I haven't liked, and I don't have a feeling bad or good one way or the other on him. But I felt that this was the one movie where his aesthetic met really high quality material, where everything really kind of came together for him.

And it is absolutely, it's a beautifully made film. It is extremely disgusting and violent and profane. but the acting is just amazing all across the board in it, and it really works. I mean, that movie absolutely kicks ass. And so I'm going to, I mean, I can be swayed probably either way, but I'm going to go with the devil's rejects on this one. Right, Thomas.

I mean, Michael said a lot of what I was going to say in terms of, I think both are really good in terms of they are far better sequels than their predecessors are. They're far better films. But at the same time, I think Devil's Rejects is a far better film, especially because it really makes you question about like you're either following these serial killers, but they're also going against like a corrupt police, you know, sheriff at the same time. So there's so much conflicting ideas there.

But Amityville, too, which I didn't see until actually preparing for this particular bracket, is an underrated sequel and definitely better than its original film. But I still got to go to devil's rejigs. It's nothing else for me being the only tolerable Rob Zombie film. That's a miracle in it itself. Tolerable. It's the most tolerable out of all of them, yeah. They're going to put that quote on the poster, tolerable.

Darian, what is your book? Hey, Marge, let's go see that movie. It's tolerable. It's tolerable. The newspaper critics said it was tolerable. Go see the movie that critics are calling tolerable. Fuck. What did you say, Darian?

I'm taking the devil's rejects because I am also tolerable. Damn. I thought it was pretty tolerable. all right nez oh yeah this is a tough one amniville was my pick um

it is the best one out of I'm just going with the original three before all these other idiots made amniville the amniville dollhouse and yeah best of 45 devil's rejects is my favorite

rob zombie movie and is his best movie out of everything he's made but I'm gonna go with Amityville 2 just because when I went and seen it the weekend it came out I left the theater

feeling just not not right just because of the whole incest thing I just witnessed I said I didn't feel that when I came out of Devil's Reject so I'm going to go with Amityville 2

all right incest was not enough to push it forward so Deviled Rejects is going ahead. There's a sentence you don't hear every day. Yes. All right. Our next bracket is

West Craven's New Nightmare and Saw 2, Nez. Hmm. All the nightmare films lost me after part 3, so I'm going to go with Saw 2. All right, Darien. I'm taking Saw 2 also.

I can't get past Heather Lange and Cap's teeth, dude. It's just too much. Thomas. It's tough for me because I think Saw 2 is definitely the best of the Saw movies. It's one of the few torture porn films. I actually do find a lot of engagement with the characters

and also the traps are a lot more creative than any of the other ones. But at the same time, New Nightmare does a lot with sort of that meta-contextual sequel thing that we're talking about. It predate a lot of, like, the scream stuff that would follow forward. I got a new nightmare for nothing else doing something very different with a very tired franchise at that point.

All right, Michael. Yeah, I got aside with New Nightmare here, too. I mean, Saw 2 is fine. I have nothing against Saw 2. I mean, I've enjoyed some of the entries in the series, but New Nightmare took a lot of chances and did something that people at that time really weren't ready for. And it's funny that Wes, two years later, with Scream, hit it huge. So I just find it was almost like it was like a dry run for some of the stuff that he was going to address and scream.

And I think that New Nightmare, even though, it's not entirely successful at the end of the day, I think has much more positives outweigh the negative. So I'm going to go with a new nightmare. All right, Steve, finish us up. I'm going to go with Saw 2 in this one, just because the traps were more elaborate. The story got progressed a lot further. And I wasn't a big fan of the whole demon, you know, changing up the Freddie Crewer character. I understand they were bringing it into the real world and all that, but I wasn't a big

fan of what they did with any of that. All right, Saw 2 moving forward. Let's move on to our next one. Maniac Cop 2 versus Friday to 13th, new beginning. Nez. If you put up Maniac Cop against the fake Jason, I'm going to go Maniac Cop 2,

but Friday the 13th, part 5, a new beginning, never gets any love, but it always gets love from me. So I'm going to go with a new beginning. All right, Darien. I think I'm going to go with the Maniac Cop on this one. I think that franchise is way underrated. And I really think that as far as dudes that play Slashers,

I think Robert Z. Dar was a bit underutilized. So I'm going to take the Maniac Cop too. All right, Thomas. I will freely admit, I tried to see as many of these on the bracket as I could. Maniac Cop is a blind spot for me in general. But at the same time, Friday 13 of the new beginning, as was mentioned previously, does not get enough love. I think it is a very underrated entry in that franchise

for trying some new risks and also having some very underrated kills, particularly they killed Juana men in a porta potty. What other movie has that? Right of the 13th, the new beginning. All right, Michael. I, you know, I want to say about Maniac Cop 2. I love Maniac Cop 2. I think it's one of those films that looks like it costs about 10 times more than it actually did.

there is it's just got a great plot it improves upon the first movie in just about every way I think it's photographed a lot better the effects are better the makeup's better the acting across the board is fantastic the stunt work in that film is incredible I mean you can you watch some of that

some of the firework that's done in that is absolutely outstanding and I think it's Bill Lustick's best film and I dearly love Maniac Cop too that being said I adore Friday the 13th part five more than is probably reasonable by law because it is so fucking twisted and weird. It doesn't make a lick of sense, but yet at the same time, it's got this, I can't define

the spirit that this movie has. It's got so much wacky shit in it that I cannot, when I first saw this movie after it was over, I was just like, I know I really liked that, but what the fuck was that? It was just, for me, that movie has, it's my favorite of all the Friday of 13th movies, because it's the only one out of the entire series that pretty much just went, how about we have some redneck characters down the street for no apparent

reason whatsoever, and then how about a sanitarium where a bunch of people are apparently housed together because some of them are mentally insane and this guy fucks too much and whatever, I don't know what the hell the reason is. And, you know, I mean, really, there's no rhyme or reason to anything, but somehow

it works because Danny Stein and the director who just understood how exploitation worked, just absolutely managed to make this, just this movie succeed, despite every reason it shouldn't have. And also, and I don't want to belabor the point,

Debbie Sue Voorhees hit me at that particular moment in my life where, yep. It was just just say that I became a man because of Debbie C. Vorhe, so we're just going to leave it at that, and I'm going for Friday the 13th, part five, a new beginning. Yes. Steve.

He's soaking in the information, and he came from the last one. oh sorry sorry again um no i really can't add anything to the um friday the thirteenth love that's been spart across the last few statements but uh i'll just add corey feldman awesome that's my vote friday the thirteenth five for his five second cameo the tie is broken he takes it up he's damn good in those five seconds troy feldman baby but you got reg reggie the reckless you can't beat that Yeah. All right.

Our next round, let's see here. So it's right in the 13th, then moving on, right? Yes, I'm sorry. Bride of Frankenstein and Hellraiser blood, Hellraiser bloodline. Wow. I can't remember where you're going to go on this one. I don't know.

Okay, Steve. Man, I don't know. Bloodline's trash. So I'll just go with Brad Frankenstein. All right, Michael. Bloodline's really trash. I want to just say, Hellrager Bloodline, even though it's a mess, has a lot of really great stuff in it. And it's the last of the Hellraiser sequels that I really liked in any...

Well, that's not true. There were parts of Inferno I actually liked. But I got to say, Bloodline had some really interesting stories. It tried to do something different. Ultimately, I think it got screwed up in post-production. And the movie that we ended up getting is, it's really not very well put together. But I do like a lot of, that being said, it's bride of fucking Frankenstein. This is one of the greatest horror movies ever made.

So, you know, I can't, there's a lot of movies on this list that would fall prey to this one. So, Bride of Frankenstein. All right, Thomas. I mean, there's a long list of reasons why Brider of Frankenstein would win, but I'll say this much. Bright of Frankenstein has a clear Autor Creative stamp from James Whale. The other one is an Allen Smithing movie.

Easily, Bridger Manxon. All right, Darren. Hell, razor, bloodlines, you motherfuckers. Wow. We got one. Clear on what his... All right, Des. I'm going to go with Bride of Frankenstein

because I don't think I got like maybe 45 minutes into Hellraiser Bloodline and turned it off. All right, moving on, Bride of Frankenstein. Let's see here. Friday the 13th, final chapter versus

Halloween H2O, Steve. You know what? I'm going to actually go with Halloween H2O in this one. I know it's not an awesome movie, but, you know, L.L. Cool J's in there. You get your reintroduction into Lori.

So, you know, all of that was great and this was a time when like Josh Hartnett was the thing and it had a really good ending too. And the sequel that came after it actually had a really cool explanation for the ending. So either way I'm going to go with H-2O. I'm not but I'm just glad we're not talking about

Kulio doing Kung Fu. That sir was Buster Rimes. Oh I'm sorry. Let's get it right. True. Treat, motherfucker. Get it right. Buster Rimes was in resurrection. I mean if you're going to talk about horrible shit, get the horrible

shit, right. Right, right, right. All right, Michael, what's your vote? Neither one of these is my favorite of their respective series, but the ones here, I would say I definitely like Final Chapter a lot more, so I'm going to go with Final Chapter. And Thomas?

Halloween H2O has a great climax. It's a shame the rest of the movie had to happen. So I'm going to go with Friday the 13th at the Final Chapter. It has a similar great final climax of fighting the original killer, but also Crispin Glover

dancing, so easily, the final joke. He was a dead fuck. Darien. Yeah, I think I'm going to go H2O on this one. I think I just liked it better in final chapter. It's all there is to it.

All right, Nez. Deciding vote. Ted White was amazing. As Jason Voorhees in the final chapter, H2O, I did enjoy it. But everyone knows me. I'm a huge Friday 13 fan, so final chapter. All right.

Final chapter moving forward. Let's get into our next one. Aliens versus Ouija Origin of Evil, or Ouija. Make good decisions, guys. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There's just some categories where it's like, really? This is definitely one versus a 16, I think.

it was the best one of do we just too but aliens is far time the great one of the greatest sci-fi action horror classics you ever made so james cameron's aliens all right darian yeah not even i can can stand up for this one it's got to be aliens all right thomas yeah i mean it's so tough because we jit too it's really literally like hey let's take one of the shittiest possible horror movies of recent memory and make something tolerable out of it. I think Ouija 2 did such a good job of that. But yeah, game over, ma'am. It's aliens.

Clearly. All right. Michael. I'm voting for Ouija 2 because I'm an asshole. Fuck it. All right, Steve. I mean, Ouija 2 was far superior to Ouija 1, but it does not hold a camera. handle to aliens. Not much does.

So, aliens it is. All right, aliens moving forward. And our last one of this round, Psycho 2 versus Childs Play 2. Steve? I'm going to go actually with Childs Play 2 over Psycho 2. I'm not a huge fan of the Psycho movies.

I know it's classic horror. It's Alfred Hitchcock. It's all that. But I'm a big fan of Chuckie, especially the first Childs Play movie. Childs Play 2 for me was just, I mean, it clearly wasn't, you know, original Child's Play. But for me, if you gave me both of those movies right now, I'd put in Childs Play 2 first. All right, Michael. I'm going to, I really would like to say, Childs Play 2 impressed me when I saw it.

I really liked the overall, you know, construction of the movie. I thought it did a good job. It resurrected Chuckie in a somewhat believable way. I mean, I seem to remember they took the brain out of the burnt doll and put it into another doll. And I don't know why the hell anyone. would ever fucking do that. But at the end of the day, I'm like, okay, I can believe that the spirit of the dolls

in there. Whereas in Childs Play 3, like a little blood drips out of some plastic into a big vat of plastic and suddenly Chuckie's back. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? So Childs Play 2 had that going for it, and I really like the finale in the toy factory. I thought that was really, really, really well done. However,

Psycho 2 had no reason to be that damn good if you think about it, because at the end of the day, you're following up a Hitchcock film, but they were very smart in that they got a great screenwriter with Tom Holland and they picked the right director and Richard Franklin and they made a kick-ass movie that actually has stood the test of time. So I'm going with Psycho 2. All right, Thomas. This is such a tough one for me because I think Childs Play 2 improves upon the first Childs Play, which I don't think quite lives up as much as a lot of people think it does. Honestly, I think Childs Play 2 does a lot of interesting

stuff like the toy factory bid or even like the great ruler scene inside of the school, I think, is very underrated as a horror kill. But that being said, Psycho 2 is, it's like Michael said, the impossible task of following up one of the greatest horror films of all time and making something that fits in the slasher genre while also making an intriguing, tragic story out of, you know, just Norman Bates wants to get back into society. He wants to make it work, but his mind ends up screwing him over.

I got to go with Psycho 2, just for the audaciousness and actually means you to make a solid slasher follow-up. up to Psycho. All right, Darian. You know, I'm not mad at the killer doll movies, and I'm not mad even at the Childs Play movies. I like Childs Play, the first three Childs Plays. But I think as far as just overall horror films go, I got to go with Psycho, too, on this one. All right.

Nez. I did like Childs Play, too. Like I said before, only the first three were good. Psycho, it was an amazing. It was a masterpiece. But Psycho 2 was my favorite one out of the four. And these guys have already talked it up already. I can't.

I agree with everything they've said about it. And it's an awesome film, Psycho 2. And's got Meg Tilly. Word. All right. So we got a winner on that one, Brian? Yep. Psycho 2 moving forward.

There you have it. No, I have a request. Can I announce the next half of the line of brackets here? Absolutely. I'd like to do that. So who's going to be the fifth voice? Yes. Someone's got to fill in for me.

Philip? Done. All right, cool. All right. Cool. So we are now moving on. Yeah, so yes, no, because I'm a guest here and I may not do the show again. I don't know.

So what the hell? I want to have a little bit fun with it. I never get to do this part. All right, cool. I never got to do this on GeekFee. either, so it's weird. Anyway, so we're now moving back. We're going back to the beginning of the list, and we're going to start with our first

round of eliminations from the last elimination. So we're boiling it down to our first new contestants here, Exorcist 3, along with Evil Dead 2, Dead by Dawn. So we're going to start off with Steve. What do you decide between these two horror classics? Evil Dead 2 again. Ash wins all day. All right.

Steve goes Evil Dead 2. yes sir Ash has got it covered man he's tearing up those caution labels on the chainsaws Evil Dead 2 all the way one of the greatest Thomas

man this is really tough for me I mean I just X-S three I can't emphasize enough how phenomenal that movie is which is William Peter Blatties dialogue but also his direction really manages to make it like almost like a stage play but at the same time very cinematic

which is the way George C. Scott, and especially, it is the premiere performance of Brad Dorff. Sorry, Chuckie, but Brad Dorff is so phenomenal in that film, but at the same time, man, Evil Dead 2, it's the best mainstream surreal horror movie ever made. I have to go with Evil Dead 2, but I still love

you, Exorcist 3. I still love you so much. Honorable mention. Nez. I'm going to go with Evil Dead 2. Same. I love Exorcist 3. It's probably my favorite out of what the three of them

but yeah Exorcists or sorry there's like five of them technically four because one is like but whatever Evil Dead 2

and Darien yeah I'm taking Evil Dead 2 on this one I love me some George C. Scott but I love me some Bruce Campbell a little bit more well there we go we have a clean suite for Evil Dead 2

although I would just like to say Exorcist 3 is one of the greatest horror sequels ever made I think the dialogue is absolutely astounding William Bleeder Blady creates an amazing sense of mood with this picture. It's criminally underrated, though it's got a lot more love of late, and

it has one of, actually, as far as I'm concerned, the greatest jump scare in horror movie history. For those of you have seen the movie, you know exactly what fucking I'm talking about. But that being said, Evil Did 2 has moved on to the next round, and it brings us to

Friday the 13th, Part 6, Jason Lives versus Purge Anarchy. And this time we will start off with Darien. Oh, God. You remember what I said last round about the Gatling gun on the moving truck? Just forget that whole thing. I like Undead Jason better.

So the Gatling gun goes under the fucking bus in that one. So we're going to go to Philip. You know, I'm not a huge home invasion fan, but I did really like the purge anarchy. It's a tough choice for me. I think I'm going to go purge. Just give it a little love. So he goes right on top there. Goes right to the purge.

So we have a little bit of anarchy already in this voting here. So I'm going to go to Steve. I voted a purge last time when the movie was up. But Purge doesn't hold a candle to Friday the 13th. So Friday the 13th it is. And Jason moves ahead. But we have a vote now coming in from Nez. Jason all day.

Jason lives. Yeah. What a shock Jason. Jason lives has one, but we're still going to take a vote from Thomas. Yeah, I mean, per-genarchy has the Key Stanfield, who is one of the greatest actors currently working right now. But at the same time, Jason Lives is, like I said,

it's the pinnacle of the Friday of the 13th franchise, very early meta-sequel, so much great stuff. And it manages to be such a great Friday of 13th movie, despite no nudity. Big ups. So Friday of 13th, part six. Jason lives moves on to the next round telling the purge and a good to go fuck itself. And we will go on to our next round, which is Nightmare on Elm Street 3, Dream Warriors versus

Hellbound, Hellraiser 2. And we're going to kick off this voting with Philip. I'm going to go Nightmare on Elm Street 3. I think it's probably the best of the series. Let's go to Darien. I got to go Hellbound because I've already kind of turned myself into the Hellraiser guy. So yeah, hellbound. And that is disturbing. Moving on to Thomas. It's interesting because these two are actually very similar in terms of they both have like the main survivor from the main movie coming back and trying to like help people who are inside of like a sanitarium and all that.

It's interesting bout, but I would still say now because obviously like so many great things that really made Freddie what he is. And also it doesn't fuck things up with well, wait, I remember. so easily Nightmare 3 Okay, still holding on to that one particular dialogue Moving on to Nez Dream Warriors all the way Because they would run over the centerbites and pin it All right

So we're really weak, honestly In those movies, they're such fucking weaklings So Nightmare 3 has one But we're still going to take Steve's vote Steve, what do you say? Yeah, I think the wheelchair kid that turns into a wizard would probably take one of the Senate invites for all his worth. So Nightmare 3 all day.

All right. So Nightmare on Elm Street 3, Dream Warriors, has won the round, taking a big old dump on Pinhead's head. And we're going to move on to our final in this particular side of the bracket here with Gremlins 2, the new batch versus George A. Romero's 1978 horror classic Dawn of the Dead. And to kick things off, let's start with Nez. I'm going to have to go with Dawn of the Dead on this. this one.

So we got one vote for Dawn of the Dead. Thomas. I mean, this is another bout where I'm like, I know what's going to win probably based on a lot of this, but I really have to defend. As much as Donald did, it has great consumer satire. Awesome. Like, use of the Muzac

and all that great zombie moments that are historic. Grim ones too has stuff that, you know, Don of it has been ripped off so many times later. No movie has ripped off Grim ones two. Ever. And not to mention it. Importantly, from Academy Award winning screened recently, Jordan Peel, it is the Citizen Kane of meta sequels.

So I will go with Gremlins 2. Check that out. Quote for Gremlins 2, Steve. Since this argument's been used before and it was accepted, I liked Gremlin's 2 better than Tuna of the Dead, so I'm going with that. Well, Remlins 2 makes a strange and unexpected lead ahead here in this category, but we're going to move on to Darien. I got to go with Don of the Dead on this one. Sorry, guys.

Understandable. Understandable. I'm shocked. Well, here we go. It's an actual horror movie, so, you know, as opposed to Gremlins, which isn't. But we actually have a tie here. We are locked two to two, and it's going to come down to Mr. Philip. What is your vote, sir?

That's what it is. Horror movie, my ass. That is a horror movie. I like Gremlin's too. It is a kick-ass movie. but there's a big one here Jennifer Lopez style

I gotta go Don of the Dead It was an unfair matchup but Grimlins held it's own So the zombies Shove the Gremlins up their ass And move on to the next round With Dawn of the Dead

Moving on I'm at least glad it was close I didn't expect to be close It was closer than I was anticipating I have to be honest with him Phil got me there for a second. I know, right? So do you want me to continue on with the other side?

You know what, Michael, you're doing such a great job. By all means, continue on, man. Oh, all right. Cool. Hold on just one second. Okay. We're moving on to the right side of the bracket. We're going to pick up our next round here.

Following up with Halloween 3 Season of the Witch versus Rob Zombie's sequel to House of a Thousand Corpses, The Devil's Rejects. Let's kick this one off with Thomas. Man, like I said, Halloween 3 is a great movie on its own, almost would have been made if it was called Just Season of the Witch. It's a wonderful little movie that, like many of us said, deserves a lot more love. But Devil's Rejects, like I've said before, it took a very middling to lesser than average original movie that Rob Zombie made as soon as you just like a, you know, extended music video and made a great modern Sam Packinpaw movie with Devil's Rejects. I, like I said, it's a better sequel.

I have to go with Devil's Rejects on this. So Devil's Rejects gets one vote. Darian. Yeah, I think I'm going to agree. I think I'm going to take the Devil's Rejects on this one. It's a lot dirtier and grittier than Halloween 3, and that's something I'm always looking for in horror movies. So I'm going to take the Devil's Rejects.

Devils Rejects now with two votes. Nez. I'm going to go with Season of the Witch, just because I'm showing my age during the 80s. So, yeah, season of the witch. All right. Old man, voting for Halloween 3.

Moving on to Steve. Yep, I'm going to have to stick with Halloween 3 on this one just because, again, I don't like Rob Zombie Films. So that's it. So now we have another barn burner here with a double vote for Halloween 3 versus a double vote for Devil's Rejects, meaning Philip, it is all up to you. once again comes down to me uh man i don't think that uh rob zombie gets enough love in the horror world i am a huge rob zombie fan and so the devil's rejects is going to be my landslide winner on that one you're fucking kidding me guys nope so devil's rejects manages to trump halloween three that means the firefye clan

has eaten the shamrock and we are moving on to saw a 2 versus Friday the 13th part 5, a new beginning. Let's kick things off with Steve. You know, I do like my saw 2, but again, big guy in a hockey mask. It wins every day. Sound logic from Steve, moving on to Darien. You know, I think I'm going to take Saw 2 on this one. It had a genuinely uncomfortable moment, and I'm talking, of course, about the hypodermic needle pit.

it's not very often that we see parts and movies that actually make our skin crawl and I think that was one of them for me I'm going to go with saw two on this one that was a pretty good scene that all right so one vote for saw two meaning my estimation of darian has gone down a little bit moving on to Thomas that's exactly what I was going for I'm this is another one where it's two very underrated sequels that are very tight for me honestly but I mean saw two like we said I think it's the best of its own franchise, whereas Friday 13th, the new beginning is an underrated entry in a franchise full of duds people aren't willing to admit, controversially.

But, you know, I'm going to go with Saw 2, that needle bit that really does. This is all in spite of the fact that it's got Mark Wahlberg's brother in it. All right, another vote for Saw 2, meaning I'm losing faith in the entire group. There we go. On to Philip. Not supposed to give your hand, man. Oh, I don't care. I'm not going to be impartial at all.

I do remember the hypodermic needle, but only because you guys told me about it. Otherwise, I don't really remember much about Saw 2. I'm going to have to go Friday the 13th. And once again, we have come down to a tiebreaker, which is a little heartbreaking because I think you're all nuts. But at the end of the day, it's going to come down to Nez. You don't even need to ask. You know that, yeah. Oh, I'm asking and I want to hear it.

Friday 13th, the new beginning. But that scene in Saw 2 when Shoney Smith got thrown in the needle. I hate needles, period. It was so tough for me to watch, but I got to go with New Beginning. So Friday 13th, Part 5, Trump saw 2 and a little bit of a nail bit of a nail bit of a nail bit of a nail bit of a nail bit of the needle scene there. At the end of the day, Jake Saw can see. Suck it. All right.

So moving on to our next matchup. Once again, we see Jason coming back in Friday the 13th, the final chapter versus James Wales classic bride of Frankenstein. Let's kick this one off with Thomas. I mean, yeah, Pride of the 13th, you know, the final chapter has a lot of great stuff in it, like I said, Chris Binglover dancing, some of the most iconic kills. Tom's Bean, which was only present in the first entry in that franchise. But, man, it's bright.

of Frankenstein. Does Friday 13th the final chapter have little people being like in jars? No, no, it doesn't. Maybe. By the Frankenstein. I don't think it does, but we're going to go with that logic anyway. So one vote for Brider Frankenstein. Moving on to Philip.

Yeah, I think, again, this battle's a little unfair, but Friday the 13th does already have a little part in our bracket already. I got to go with Brider Frankenstein. It's a classic. anything up against it with the exception of maybe two or three movies is not really fair. All right. So we have another vote for Bride of Frankenstein.

Nez. Of course. Final chapter. I mean, to me, it is a classic, and it will be probably not as much as Bride of Frankenstein, but I love Friday 13. So final chapter. And Nez is a little on crack, but we're going to move on to Darien. Just a little bit. A pinch.

A pinch. A pinch of a little bit. No, no. He might be wearing a mask right now. I didn't say a whole lot because I like Friday 13th part four or two, but still a little bit of crack. So let's move on to Daryon. I actually am in love with Bright of Frankenstein. I would have voted for it last round, except it was, you know, up against Hellraiser.

So yeah, Brad of Frankenstein for me. And although the decision has already been made, let's get our vote in from Steve. Yeah, I do love the hockey mask. I do love the Friday of 13th. But it's really hard to put that up against. the classic imagery of Bride of Frankenstein handed over to Bride of Frankenstein. So Brider Frankenstein will win this round.

That means Jason takes it in the butt right from a woman. You got to say that's interesting. All right. So our last one on this particular round, we have Aliens by wonderful filmmaker James Cameron from going up against Psycho 2 by director Richard Franklin. This should be a very interesting conversation. So we're going to kick this one off with Steve.

aliens all the way. Again, you know, when I saw this when I was a kid, you introduced that kid factor. You had Newton there, and that was my window into that movie. I became part of that movie. I was happy to not become a part of Psycho 2. So, you know, yeah, aliens for me all the way. Philip, I'm glad I get to vote in this one. So thank you for taking over duties for a second. this is probably one of my favorite movies of all time aliens so philip cast his vote for aliens thomas man like i said before psycho two had an uphill battle and it did a great job of accomplishing so much with such a task behind it

and aliens is a movie falling up an early great movie by also being a pretty great movie in its own it's pretty tough but you know i gotta go with aliens on this. Aliens racks up its third vote. Moving on to Darien. Yeah, I'm going to take aliens on this one, too.

I have no problem at all with Psycho, too. But I think aliens is a better movie. I think it did a great job of expanding the xenomorph mythos. And I think you're going to be pretty hard pressed to find a better horror sequel. So it makes it four votes for aliens, Ness. Is it a clean sweep? I should say, yeah. but it doesn't have a scene of an old lady getting hid in the head with a shovel.

So I'm going to go cycle two. One vote for the old broad getting whacked on the head with a shovel, which means that aliens still manages to take a lead and ends up winning that particular category. Also credit, though, aliens does not have sleazy Dennis Franz as well. That is also a point in its favor. This is also true. So aliens is the winner there. So, yeah, still there.

Okay. do you want me to keep going or do you want someone else want to take over? I think we're down to the third round now, right? Yes, we are. Brian, you ready? Yes, I am. Let's see here. Match one, we have Evil Dead 2 versus Jason Lives.

Jason lives, of course, but Evil Dead 2. Come on. Jason lives. All right. Darian. Yeah, this is where things start getting a little tough. I think I'm going to have to go with Jason lives on this one also. Right, Thomas.

Man, I mean, Jason lives, like I said, best of that Friday 13th franchise, but does not hit the surreal heights of an Evil Dead 2. Evil Dead 2 has a guy trying to shoot his own hand who has become detached and is crawling around like Spider. it's easily like I said Jason lives is the most creative of a repetitive franchise but Evil Dead 2 is the pinnacle

of an already franchise that's pretty fucked up and weird on and so I gotta go with Evil Dead 2. All right Michael Yeah I mean look I like Jason Liz as much as a lot of you guys and I think it's certainly an above average entry in the series Evil Dead 2 is one of the most

impressive bouts of just pure filmmaking I've ever seen. I mean there's stuff in that movie that absolutely blew my mind 30 years ago and still does to this day. It is so relentlessly creative and it has become one of the most influential horror films ever made. There's so many filmmakers working today who drew inspiration and wanted to become filmmakers because of Evil Dead 2. Not really so much even the first movie. Evil Dead 2 struck a chord and it just, every time I go back and watch that movie, there's shots in there. I still don't know how Sam Ramey pulled off. I've even heard

how, I've even heard them explain to me how they did it and I'm like no, I don't believe that because I can, I know those tricks and there's no way you fucking ran a camera up from behind a car through the weird windshield, through the car,

out through the front windshield and over the hood of the car in one shot. I'm sorry, that's just magic, that's not filmmaking. You guys are alchemists and that scares the shit out of me. So I got to give it to Evil Dent too. It truly is just I still think it's maybe

Sam Ramey's best movie and it is one of the most impressive creative flights of fancy I've ever seen. All right, Steve, break the tie. Yeah, there's no follow-up to that. It's a great, great movie with Evil Dead 2. I'm going with the Boomsick, baby. All right. Evil Dead 2, moving on.

On to our next match, we are going to have Nightmare on Elm Street, Dreamwervers. Nez got pissed off. It's like, you voted off Jason, you sons of bitches. He quit. We got more Jason coming. He's still here. He can't be in every bracket.

Yeah, God damn it. How much Jason do you fucking need? All right. Kevin, you back? Yeah, I'm here. Okay. Next match up. Dream Warriors versus Dawn of the Dead.

Steve. Ooh, that's a tough one. I'm going Dream Warriors. Warriors all day. That's one of my favorite horror movies of all time. It really is. And Dawn the Dead's great, but Dream Warriors, it's really going to be hard to hold a candle to that with any other movies here. So Dream Warriors. All right, Michael. Look, Dream Warriors is a lot of fun, and I, you know, I loved it just as much as everybody else, a Big Freddy fan, but Dawn of the Dead is just one of the greatest movies ever make, period.

You know, fuck classifying it as a horror movie. It's actually not really even a horror movie. It's a brilliant dark comedy satire. And it just has such an amazing depth of character in it that at one point the zombies disappear in the movie for about 20 minutes and you don't even realize it because you're so caught up in the characters that George created in that. It was for me a game changer in the way I saw that you could actually use the genre to tell stories that actually were about something and not just about scaring the shit out of people.

And it remains to me one of the greatest, you know, expressions. of that kind and the genre's ever had. So for me, as much as I love Nightmare 3, it's not even a contest, Donald the Dead. All right, Thomas. To quote the guy in trading places, yeah, what he said. Michael basically said everything I was going to say,

but I'll just add in addition that, like, I think the satire of Donald did, despite being taking place in a mall, which isn't that relevant as of today, still resonates in very much with the consumer culture that's going on right now. Now, versus Nightmare 3 has so much fun stuff and is one of the best entries in that franchise. But it is oddly enough kind of complimenting a lot of the stuff that Donald is trying to satirize and decry.

So I have to go with Donald the Dead. All right, Darien. You know, I had every intention of voting for Nightmare and Elm Street 3 until Michael just gave that very eloquently put argument against it. And yeah, what he said. All right, Nez. Don of the Dead. It's the greatest, in my opinion, greatest dead movie out of everything George Romero is made.

All right, Donna the Dead moving forward. Our next matchup will be the Devil's Rejects and Friday the 13th, new beginning. Nez. You know where it's going. A new beginning. All right. but yeah, that's all I say.

Dary. I'm taking the rejects. It's got a fucking killer clown in it. Why not? Thomas. He's speechless. Thomas, you there? Oh, no, I'm sorry.

I didn't hear you. You were saying, I'm next. Okay. Hold on. Yeah, I mean, like I said, New Beginning is a very underrated example in that franchise.

But Devil's Rejects, you know, Don't you love clowns? Ain't we fucking funny? I got to go with Devil's Rejects. All right, Michael. This one's really tough. I mean, look, I have such a sentimental attachment to part five.

It's almost impossible for me to vote against it. However, I think Devil's Rejects is such a strong movie. And again, it's such an improvement over the first film that, and it is truly, a more ambitious film than part five. As much as my sentimental nature would take it to part five, and I would still like it to see forward, move forward. I got to go, honestly, with Devil's Rejects. I think that movie surprised me more than Part 5 did.

I'm not surprised I enjoyed a Friday the 13th movie, but going into Devil's Rejects, I was like, I don't know if, you know, I didn't really dig House of a Thousand Corpses that much. But what Zombie did with that was essentially turned into a really grotesque, very, very darkly humorous, road movie, which I thought was a great idea to do that. And you've got Bill Mosley, who's one of my favorite

character actors of all time, giving one of his best performances ever. He's like, hey, I think I still got your wife's pussy stink on my gun. You know, I mean, there's just like, there's so many great, great lines in that movie and just, and the way it ends, which is very interesting, because I'm curious

as to how this next Devil's Rejects movie is going to address the way that Devils Rejects ends, which is pretty fucking definitive. So, You know what? Although I might be able to be swayed, I honestly have to go here with Devils Rejects. All right. Steve.

Yeah, I know my vote doesn't really count right now because the winners decided, but I will continue to not vote for Rob Zombie. So I'm going Friday of the 13th. Right, Devil's Rejects moving forward. And our last matchup for this round, ride of Frankenstein versus aliens, Steve. Okay. We've tossed a lot of love at Brighter Frankenstein, but... Good match up. It is not aliens for me.

So, I mean, we have talked a lot about aliens tonight, but we haven't even mentioned how awesome Michael Bean is. So, you know, I'm going aliens all way. All right, Michael. Oh, God. And these two films don't almost... And this is where... I always hate this in these kind of competitions, because eventually get down to a point where two films you truly love are up against each other. Both deserve it.

And both, I mean, they couldn't be more different from each other. You know, one is just a knockdown, drag-out action spectacle. And the other one is this is very dark, very somber, you know, masterpiece and, you know, in black and white and everything. And I, look, I'm going to go with the one that I go back to the most often. And honestly, of these two, the one I revisit the most and I get the more out of now, even though it's nothing against the other one, which is they're both great, great movies. I'm going to cast a vote for Brighter Frankenstein. Ooh. All right, Thomas.

Look, I do love aliens as much as the next guy. It was the first one I saw all of these two, and it has a lot of great action beats and wonderful moments that prove just why James Cameron resonates so much, especially with the general public. But I got to go with Brighter Frankenstein for just the audacious creativity that's going on from the first film, which is a wonderful little, like,

parable that's very simple but very well done versus this one takes all sorts of creative weird risks and more importantly I think has an interesting subtext about homosexuality that makes it a bit more relevant than aliens despite like I said aliens is a wonderful movie but I got to go with Brider Frankenstein

David versus Goliath I am shook right now me too man Darian I think I fuck this is a tough one it is a good bad job Yeah, this is insane.

I think I'm going to take aliens on this one. And the reason why is because this, I think, is the first time that we ever actually got to see the aftermath. I feel like this is more of an action horror type of a scenario. I feel like the horror happened already, like in Alien 1, and then probably in the events preceding aliens. So what we're seeing here is the aftermath of the actual horror. And that, I don't think, is anything we've seen to that point. point. For that reason alone and really, yeah, that's about it. I'm going with aliens. All right. All right. Two and two. I'm getting a two. Holy shit.

I'm pouring a whiskey for this one. I've seen both of these in the theater, not bright when it came out. And I saw it in the exact same theater, Grand Lake Theater, in Oakland. but I'm going to go I mean everyone loves aliens but I don't have to go bright Whoa I cannot believe what just happened Oh my God The grittiness of the film

Of when I saw it and everyone's seeing it now On crisp clear Blu-ray DVD what have you But seeing it sitting in the theater and watching it In the exact same theater that I saw aliens but I just I loved it a little bit more I mean I just liked how it was

I mean just you can't put anything I mean it's hard to put something up against aliens but for sentimental value I'm gonna go with Bride that's how March Madness works

ladies and gentlemen Wow The few people who are around The scene The few people who were at the city Bride Frankenstein in the theater when its original run was happening

They're like Good job Nez you did a great job supporting it. I like that more. You're getting that Social Security donation right now.

All right, that concludes our that round, Lance. Well, you know what? I think we're down to the final, aren't we? Final four. Final four.

Ah, we get down to the final four. Okay, cool. All right, I'll take these then. So we've got... All right, let's start. We'll start out with Kevin. evil dead versus dawn of the dead couple of dead things

to choose from here man make good choices guys and we know Kevin likes to play with dead things so this is perfect I love both of them but Dawn of the Dead

I just love a little bit more knew it was coming all right dawn for Kevin Thomas this is very tough for a lot of reasons but I mean

you know Dawn of the Dead does so well with it especially a very a much more conventional sort of structure that is familiar to a lot of horror movies that would rip it off so much afterward.

But Evil Dead 2 is a slightly more unique beast that I don't think those who have tried to rip it off have failed more often than those who ripped off Don of the Dead. If you get what I'm saying, Evil Dead 2 is a much more unique beast. I got to go with an Evil Dead too. But Donned the Dead still such a great phenomenal entry in the zombie franchise.

This can be a good fight. All right, yeah, one to one. Steve? I'm going back with Bruce Campbell there. Evil Dead 2. Like, you know, they were just saying, the zombie genre has been ripped off so much, but who's really gone back to what they've even attempted in Evil Dead?

Nobody. It's untouchable. It's a classic, and it will continue to be so. So Evil Dead 2 for me. Another vote for Evil Dead 2. Darien. Yeah, I'm taking Evil Dead 2 on this one. I got a lot of love for Donna the Dead.

but I think I like Evil Dead 2 just a little bit more. Wow, okay. Well, Michael, looks like Evil's moving on, but what's your two cents work? Well, I'm kind of glad I didn't have to cast a deciding vote in this, because honestly, both these movies mean more to me that I can probably say. They're both deeply influential in my life for various different reasons, and I don't think I could pick. I mean, just based on the quality of the movies,

I was going to go, honestly, with the film, that I felt best fit the category that we're discussing here, best horror sequel. Dawn of the Dead is a follow-up to Nine of the Living Dead, but it's not a sequel in that the characters continue through. It's a thematic follow-up. I would have gone with Evil Dead too because it directly picks up from the split second at the first one ends, same characters moving that story forward. So that's what I was going to use if it came down to being a tight decision. Fortunately, that decision's been taken out of my hands, so I'll throw a vote to Don of the Dead since it doesn't matter.

Okay, so we've got Evil Dead again moving on. And Steve, what's it going to be, Devil's Rejects or Bride of Frankenstein? Bride of Frankenstein. I'm not voting for this drive zombie. I'm not doing it. Even though I'm super pissed that Bride of Frankenstein beat out aliens. I am. That irritates the crap out of me, but, oh.

Devil's Rejects made it a long way. I'm going, Bride. Kevin? I'm going to go with Devil's Rejects. I'm going to go the other way. I know I just went down on the bride, but... Oh, bye. Well, you nasty.

I wonder she screams. So that is the kind of show this is, right on, right on. Frazing. Brackenstein is going to be bad ass. Could have been worse. Could have been the bride of Chuckie, Ness. Oh. Hey, Jennifer Tilly.

You could have gotten splinter. I'm all right with that. All right. So we got, what? One to one at this point. So, Darien? I think it's in it two to one? Oh, is it two to one now?

No, no, one one. Yeah, one one. Oh, I'm sorry. Darian? Yeah, I got to go with the Brider Frankenstein on this one. I'm fine with the devil's rejects, but I think Bright of Frankenstein is just a better movie all the way around. Okay.

Michael? I'm going to vote Devil's Rejects because I don't want this decision. Oh, wow. So I guess it's nice. It's all up to Thomas, huh? That was good. Don it up for points. Devils Rejects and serves so much credit for following up such a lesser movie with a beautiful, wonderful, very complex sequel that does so much.

And like I said, it's the only good Rob Zami movie to me and has so many great performances from like I said, Hey, and Bill Mosley. But Bride does so much with taking a film that was already iconic at the time and adding weird elements that, No one expected to be added on and just did such a beautiful job of making the Frankenstein creature even more tragic than previously. I got to go with Brider Frankenstein. Okay. So we've got Bride of Frankenstein moving on. So, uh, Philip, you got to figure this out. Oh, man, evil did.

It's so awesome that, uh, that Rob Zami got beat out by living dead girl. Yes. Yes. Although I got to say, just to throw my opinion out there, I really love. House of a Thousand Corpses, too. I think that that one may be even better than Devil's Rejects because... You're fired.

I really enjoy it. But not today, ladies and gentlemen. All right, so we've got our final fight in the bracket. Evil Dead 2, our number one contender, who came in strong and

beat down all the bitches. Versus bride of Frankenstein, the classic of classics. Who's going to take it? Thomas. Oh. This is so fucking hard.

Thinking about it, like I said, Evil Dead 2 is so surreal and weird and does very, sort of almost love crafty and things with the original Evil Dead that it deserves so much credit, so much love. But then again, one would argue,

would you have that without the weird touches of James Whale, with the very over-the-top insane things that he did back in the 30s when that wasn't at all common in any way. It's very tough, but I'll slightly side with Bride of Frankenstein. Oh, you could say that about a lot of movies. I expected this to be Evil Dead versus Aliens, and it is not. Evil Dead 2 versus Brite of Frankenstein. Kevin Nez, what do you think?

Ooh, I'm going to go with Bride. Whoa. Two to none. Brad of Frankenstein taking the early lead with the one-two punch, Darien. I am going to take Evil Dead 2. And the reason why is because these are both great movies, but I think Evil Dead 2 is just more fun to watch. Bright Frankenstein is a great show, but it's kind of a bummer.

Let's be honest. Down but not out. Evil Dead is still in it. Steve, what do you think? Well, you know, I'm casting a spite vote at this point because Bride took out aliens, so I'm going to go with Evil Dead too. I thought you were spiting it the other way. I was getting scared.

No, no, no. Oh, no. Michael, it's tied up right now. Your decision is the winner of the entire bracket. I just want to set that weight. right on top of your head there, buddy. Yeah, fuck you. What I would like to...

I would like to say first, before I get into this, how nice it is to see two movies representing such a wide range of time for the horror film. You know, we have a sequel from 1987, and we have one dating back, I think, 1933, 34, forget the year. So, I mean, the fact that we were able to acknowledge the history of horror in this way is actually very, very nice.

So I'm glad that these two have ended up together. Very different films. I mean, this is apples and oranges, and I can't really speak against Sprite or Frankenstein or speak against Evil Dead 2. All I can go with is the film that for me, I just, and I don't know, it's for me the one that just has the richest,

it's the richer meal, I guess, in a way. And I don't, again, it's so hard to compare these two. So even though I have a deepest love, and I probably enjoy Evil Dead 2 much more than Brider Frankenstein, I think Brider Frankenstein is a better movie. So I'm voting for Brider Frankenstein. Whoa. Bride of Frankenstein on the way out comes with the left hook and wins the battle. bride of Frankenstein is the best sequel from 1930 what's the year on that one

oh god i was 32 i think 35 35 cramps might be a slight testament to current horror as it is i tell you man i'm so good for out there that's all right dude i'm i'm happy with the decision it was it was a a good battle but in the end the best wins and the bride of Frankenstein, it is. Classics go a long way. Well, that's it. Any final thoughts, anybody?

Hmm. Will people in Jurs for the win, motherfuckers? If you put it up with the last year's winner, Vader would just take her out easily. Well, of course, because he does,

I was disappointed. Evil Dead didn't get there. But you guys are voting. You guys chose your winner. And it is the bride of Frankenstein. As always, we want to thank you for listening to another episode of The Horror Return. Before we close down, why don't we kind of go around the table and get everybody to sort of do a last pitch, what you guys are up to, the newest things going on, where to find you?

Oh, definitely. Go around the table. You want to start with Nez? Yeah, Kev, what's up, man? Where are you at? Where can we find? Just go to Podbean or iTunes, SkaterNez Podcast Network. you'll find all the shows that are there.

Magnez, E-Society, up to the challenge out of necessity, and big guys. So, yeah, go there and you'll listen to all the nonsense that we talk about. Big guys' podcast. Good stuff. Thomas, where you at, buddy? At gruesomemagine.com,

you can find the horror news, radio podcast as well as the Decades of Horror 1980s and the 1990s and Beyond. I'm on both those shows, but also take a listen to the Decades of Horror 1970s and the classic era which are on that particular website and you can find me at not the who's Tommy is my Twitter handle and I'm also on marianithomas. WordPress.com where I write reviews. Rock on. So you can see and like here and stuff, huh? Yeah, you can read and listen. It's multiple

different ways. Nice. Steve, man, where you at? Yeah, you can find more of what I do at the league of geeks.com. That's Geeks with a Z. You can also find our podcast. on iTunes, Stitcher, wherever you get your podcasts. And while we don't review horror movies all the time, we do have a special every October called the 31 Days of Horror. We review a horror movie every single day of October. So that's always a good time. Beautiful.

Hey, and they may have gone over it while I was not here, but you are responsible for our opening, are you not? Yes, sir, I am. So I also do a little bit of sound stuff on the side. Rock on, man. You're killing it. Thanks. Daryon, where are you at, buddy?

Um, padded room podcast network. You can find that at padded room podcast.com. Available at YouTube, iTunes, Stitcher, Podbean, Google Play, anywhere find podcasts or found. You can find us there. That's where they're at. Michael, last but not least, where are you? Well, I run redshirt pictures. I'm producing a lot of DVD and Blu-ray special features for distributors all around the world.

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uh next week we cover horror movies filmed on an ipone with unsane and to jennifer So that sounds super fun. So until the horror returns again, Lance, take it. Good night.