The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #95: To Jennifer (2013) & Unsane (2018) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: October 29, 2022

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Welcome, welcome, welcome. Welcome back one and all to the horror returns. I'm Lance and with me as always are my co-hosts. Brian and Philip. How's it going, guys? It's going good. Going pretty awesome. I'm at the mother-in-law's house today, so excuse any interruptions. We will. We will.

And do I see through Yon Window our brother Naz back again? Yo, what up? I'm back in my place to be. There you go. What's going on, dude? Tell us what's going on with your daughter, man. Well, if you guys listen to the East Society and everything else, my daughter, she's expecting her first little one. He's a little boy. We're going to name him Daniel. And I'm just waiting now.

I don't want to be in the hospital when it's all happening. I don't want to hear my daughter and I don't want to see it. I went through it four times already. I'll wait until he's out and wrapped up. been cleaning everything. I don't want to see them brand new and all that crap all over them, so I can wait.

And then it sounds like his granddad name for you is going to be the great one, right? Yep. There you go. The great one. I like it. There you go. Hey, are we going to go to the great one's house today? All right, man. Other than other than that,

what's the coolest thing you've seen? Santa Clarita Diet started up again. I watched a couple episodes of that. More of Longmeyer. If you guys are, I'm like late to the party on that, so I've been really digging into that show. But there's a new show that also came out. I zipped through that whole season. I couldn't stop watching it. It's called On My Block and about these teenage kids in L.A. Just living in the hood. It's new. It just came out. I think it started Friday. I'm looking it up right now. the whole it's 10 episodes they're only half hour

so I zip through them pretty quick and it was an amazing show I mean it just made me laugh made me tear up a little and I can really relate to these kids growing up in Oakland

and just going through with what they did with some of the stuff they did and not so much I mean everything's all super high tech and all that now but back in the good old days we didn't have any of that stuff

but the same similar issues that they were dealing with, I went through with my friends and everything, and I just thought it was an amazing show. I had no idea what it was. Usually when I used to get in Netflix, it just says, oh, new, and I was like,

well, what's this? I just clicked on it. I figured I'd give it a few minutes, if I liked it, I'd continue, and it stuck me in. I couldn't, I watched the whole season. Now I can't wait for season two, and that part won't be for another year. There's a Halloween episode, it looks like. Yeah, they were out partying.

And that was one of the episodes that I was like, it was funny, but then what happens at the party, me and my friends have totally gone through what happened at that party in real life, in our lives. And I was like, man, there's been stuff like that. Like this show, not every story, every situation, but there's been another movie called What's Up Rockers. It's about these little Mexican skateboarding kids down in L.A. And that movie was like someone just must have followed us along with a notebook

and just took, wrote our story down and turned it into a more of a modern day movie. That movie came out a while back. Oh, man. But yeah, on my block, Netflix, that was the coolest thing I've seen this week. A little peek into Kev's Life. Yeah. What about you, Brian? Let's see

I caught a couple movies Kind of in the horror genre First one Ten by Ten We reviewed the trailer for Oh yeah Luke Evans right You know

Oh boy Nothing Nothing anybody hasn't seen before Split did it better A pet did it better So check those out I hate it when Lance is right And then I checked

out another one, psychopaths. It's kind of a noir-ish kind of a story. It's basically the premise is this guy gets put to death in prison and he says he's going to

come back in some way, some form. And that night all these like kind of craziness happens with different stories happening, people killing each other. And what really caught my eye was this actress Ashley Bell.

She was in The Last Exorcism. I don't know if you guys ever seen Carnage Park. Yep. Yeah. She's the main actress in those movies. Yeah, she was really good in this. So I would probably recommend this more than 10 by 10.

10 by 10 is, like I said, nothing special happened. Is it on Netflix or where can you find it? Set sales and you'll find it. Ah, okay. Say no more. garr, Steve. Phil? And, uh, sorry, I was gonna say, uh, Ash, Asha versus Evil Dead is still fantastic, so.

I'm one episode behind. Me too. I'm excited about watching it, though. Yeah, that's all I got. Yeah. Uh, Michael the week, uh, well, I'll go with the little one first. So a couple weeks ago, because we haven't had it in a couple of weeks ago. because we haven't had it in a couple weeks.

I watched The Room and the Disaster Artist. And... Oh, back to back. I am hooked on that story. That crazy Eastern European motherfuckers sucked me in. So I think I've already watched it twice now. He has a new movie coming out. The disaster artist was good, but the room was...

I went to the theater and saw it because a buddy of mine loves it so much. Right. Let's go see it. Yeah, it's really bad. Disaster artist is good. Yeah, disaster artist is really well done. But if you have seen the room prior to it, it makes it that much better. And the acting is really terrible, but it's so campy that it's kind of, it's almost good.

It's kind of great for what people say. Yeah, I mean, it's, It's a really good, bad movie. Speaking of which. Lance and I guess hosted on the horror mafia this week. So definitely go check out their podcast. We did heavy metal horror movies. Horrible, horrible, heavy metal.

Oh, yeah, no, they were awful. They were way bad. We did Hard Rock Zombies, which was I don't think that made it quite into a good, bad movie. It was pretty right. And then we did, yeah. And then we did

a rock and roll nightmare which... Thor. Yeah, with Thor. It's like a heavy metal 80s I don't know, man. There's like little penis creatures.

They're like puppets. Think like labyrinth, but slimier. And it's, that one I think falls into so bad. It's good. Acting is terrible. and black roses.

But you can hear us drone on about that. We partied a little bit, so it carried on some. But, man, it was a great time. Shout out to the guys of Horror Mafia. Yeah, a lot of fun.

Thanks for the invite, guys. Those guys are, they fucked around for like an hour before. I know. Before we ever started recording. I know. See, and I was fine. Maybe we're doing it wrong.

What do you think, John? I don't know. I don't know. I was fine because I didn't have to go to work the next day. Yeah, I was like, everybody else was party in, so I was like, all right, we're getting wasted. Well, I'm on my whole 30 diet, so I think Donnie and I were the only two that were sober. But I was okay to stay up late because I had a doctor's appointment. I didn't have to get up at my usual time.

But I'm curious, Brian, Kevin. You guys see neither of those three movies, or do they ring a bell? I know. Yeah, Black. It was kind of a cult hit, Philip, I think. Yeah. Yeah, it was supposed to be. They used a bunch of songs.

God damn, and I can't remember the name of the band that they actually use the songs from. Some, like, semi-famous 80s hair band. It was pretty metal. It was awesome. Did they say King Diamond or something? Did some of the music? No. I can't remember who did it.

I don't fuck. I saw it once a long time ago when it came out. Yeah? Yeah, that one, think about it. They're all kind of late 80s. Yeah, I barely remember. If I sit there and watch it, it'll probably come back to me. But right now, I don't remember it.

But I seen it. It was like everybody thinks heavy metal is bad and devilish and satanic. And then in this case, they were right. which is why it was so awesome and uh is that it then yeah that's it for me yeah my cool of the week

uh brian you know this i was i i rewatched the original pacific rim oh i was so did i thought we might have to fall back on it that's a fun movie man and you know what if you if you watch it now after shape of water in some of these other movies i think yermo's uh set design comes through, you know, as being kind of tied to it. It almost looks like a lot of his movies take place in the same universe visually.

Would you agree? Yeah, I would love to believe that all his movies are in the same universe. Oh, that'd be cool. Just set in different times. It kind of seems that way. Everything looks the same kind of retro, you know, and the same soft colors and everything. But, no, it kind of got overtaken by a movie, TV show that Nez talked about. Santa Clarita

Diet started up again Friday. See, I didn't know what started. I'm so excited to go back and watch this. It's fun. Yeah, this show is unlike anything else on TV. It's one of the few shows that AJ will actually watch with me. And it's probably one of the...

It's grosser than fucking Walking Dead and she gets rosed out by that, but somehow she can sit through this. So, I guess a lot of the you know, I guess she likes some of the actors that are in it. It's kind of, it's only 30 minutes, so, you know, it's not too much to bite off each episode. But we're like, we're four episodes in.

It's a lot of fun. Zombies sitcom. Santa Clarita Diet. All right. Brian, headlines. And this is the section when we get into, are these reboots necessary? Oh, no. Tessa Thompson is in talks to join Chris Hemsworth in the,

the upcoming Men in Black reboot. Not necessary. Set to be directed by F. Gary Gray. I'm okay with that one, though. I can go for that, I guess. Yeah. Like, it's, I mean, it is kind of a classic, but it was, you know, a summer blockbuster classic.

If you reboot a summer blockbuster into a summer blockbuster, I'm okay with that. Yeah. They work well with each other from Thor, so, I mean, it could work. work. I just don't know if we need a men-in-black reboot. Maybe they'll have Jeff Goldblum show up as an alien.

Well, we definitely fucking don't need a men-in-black sequel. True. Let's see. Lynn Shea, Damien Burchier, and John Cho have been casting the upcoming reboot of the Grudge. Hmm. Why? That's weird. Yeah, why?

That's really weird casting. Yeah. And it's weird to reboot a horror movie, you know? Yeah. It's, I don't know. The grudge. I don't know. I've only, I think there's three of them.

I've only seen the first one. What's her name? Buffy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the hand on the back of the head thing. Yeah, that was fine. The other two are they're forgettable. Was Bill Pinn in that one, or am I thinking of something else?

Yeah. He did the first one. Played the dad or something. Yeah. Pretty, I didn't care for it. The second one sucked. The third one was Johnny Smith. That one was actually all right.

I remember like that. The junkie chick from Saul? Yeah. I have no memory of that movie. I know I watched it, though. I think there was a hotel somewhere in there. Oh, man. Let's see.

The Pet Cemetery Remake, the Pet Semetery Remake. The Pet Semetery Reefest. remake begins filming in May and has a release date of April 19, 2019. And I did not write down the director's name, but they directed Star Eyes, which is a pretty good movie.

Right. I remember you're talking about that. Yeah, which if anybody hasn't seen it, check it out now, because I think it's one of the movies that Netflix is about to take off. And their little rotation, they do. Right. What do you think? a remake of that one.

Sorry? It's a little... No. Pet Semitory. Oh, okay. Sorry. Pet Semittertert. I'm fine with it.

It's not a movie that's not untouchable for me. I mean, if it's going to be done right, then I would have rather had, because what was Andy Mochetti, the director for It. Yeah, he wanted to do it. And I thought he did an awesome job with It, but I guess they're going with these directors. So, I mean, I have to see something first, a trailer, a teaser, something. Yeah. I don't know, man. I think that they haven't in the horror movie genre until this last it really done Stephen King a whole lot of justice. I mean, there's been a few of them that are pretty good, but kind of campy. And I'm ready for them to just get super scary. I hope they do that.

Yeah. And our last bit of news. former guest on the show, Dee Wallace, has been cast in Rob Zombies' upcoming Devil's Reject sequel 3 from Hell. What? Where did, that's awesome. That's good casting. Yeah.

Oh, got a little side note. What was the guy that wouldn't let us get an interview? That was from 31. You're talking about it. Well, see, we forgot him. Now you know why we forgot him. Yeah. The main dude.

He was to do an interview. Yeah. That's like my notes cut off right here. You don't do an interview. Hey, you don't do an interview with the horror returns. You're fucking done in Hollywood, okay? Well, that guy. I guess the notes must have just got cut off.

But anyways. Well, that guy has also been casted. I should look it up. I'm not going to. Yeah, there's a lot of people that will probably go into that, that work with zombie. Don't you think, Nez? He reuses a lot of people. Everybody.

I mean, every movie he's made pretty much, except for, well, no, he did Halloween to Chris Hardwick. Oh, that's right. That's right. He just gets the same, which I'm fine with. I mean, I like everybody he gets, but bringing in somebody new. I mean, just one person will be new and I'll be happy with it. But I don't know. Yeah.

They'll have to. I love Sherry Moon. I was going to say, what's the chance that she's going to be in three from hell? the original the original what are they the firefly family yeah they're coming back oh no I thought they died

I guess he has some kind of he has some kind of story where they come back I don't know oh no like Jason goes to hell Nez Jeff Daniel Phillips that's his name Jeff Danilip I may actually stay away from this

I like Rob Zombie but man this is getting ridiculous it didn't seem like anybody like Rob Zombie in our March Madness. I do. That guy can do no wrong to me, man. Steve didn't like him. Yeah, a lot.

Shout out to Steve. He's not too happy with that outcome. March Madness. No. He doesn't understand how aliens lost. I don't understand how aliens lost. We may not have listened to it yet. Spoiler alert.

You'll never guess who won. I blame me for, I listened back to the playback and it was, it was at that moment. It came down to me with the bride and aliens. Oh, no, you're the one. I went with it. It was about that time that I realized. I love aliens. It was my fault.

Hey, it's not a bad pig, man. No, it's a classic, so. And on that note, that is all the news. All right. I don't know about you, boys, but I'm hankering. I'm hankering to get down that to the trailer park amongst the kinfolk. What about you guys? We're going to bring you the big, the small, and lots of, lots of superheroes this week.

One of which is cool. The others of which can go fuck themselves. But, you know, I digress. I'm sure we're all going to go see Avengers. So, Brian, what's the first new trailer, man? I'm going to talk about Wildling, starring my least favorite actress, Liv Tyler, Brad Duroff, and Bell Polly,

directed by Fritz Baum. I'm all in. Live Tyler, I'm in. Yeah, I like Liv Tyler. And, yeah, man, when Chucky showed up, I was like, all right. I didn't know he was in it. The director, I mean, Fritz Baum,

it sounds, it seems like. like a very artsy, indie sort of movie, I think. Probably, yeah. It looks cool, man. I'm totally up for this one. It seems neat. It'd be awesome. Liv Tyler wasn't in it.

It's the same person in every movie. She got to work. Even when she's an elf. And this one, it looks like she's supposed to be some kind of detective. The fuck out of here. She does not look like no. detective. It's like she's acting the same. What did we just watch? The strangers. Right.

It's like they took that character and put a police uniform on her. Maybe she turned into a detective after they didn't kill her. Did you think about that, Brian? Hmm. I don't know. Well, did you, did you guys hear the guy that was the, and the original strangers just went on a tirade about the producers of that movie, the new one? No. He was the original sackhead guy. Okay. Oh.

Yeah, he put that movie under the bus and ran it over. Well, because he basically he said they should have never did a sequel. And if they were going to do a sequel, it should have been more about the strangers and not like this shitty-ass family running around the trailer part.

They should have done like a kick-ass slasher movie sequel. But like Jason's style, not like they did. Yeah. But back to Liv Tyler. If she wasn't in this movie, I would be all for it. We get it, Brian. I'm going to watch it anyways. It looked pretty cool.

Boycotting Liv Tyler. April 13th, release date. Friday's the 13th, right? Yeah. On this next trail, Lance helped me out. Was it horror news radio that talked about this movie? I think in their most anticipated low life. I don't remember that.

I know I'm really fucking. and looking forward to it. Yes. Low Life. Starring Nicky. Starring Santo, man. Sancho. Michelle.

Did you see that? Yeah. I believe he's played by Ricardo Adam Zorate. Also starring John Oswald and directed by Ryan Prows. If anybody

didn't see this trailer, the little synopsis is the sword, the sword lives of an addict, an ex-con, and a luchador collide when an organ harvesting caper goes very, very wrong. That has me intrigued. How are you not excited about that? No kidding.

What do you think, Kevin? I'm all in, man. As soon as the Luchador guy popped up on the screen, I mean. Yeah, it looks really good. It's a cool fucking trailer, man. Yeah, I believe it was horror news radio when they did their most anticipated movie. I think they had a guest. I'm sorry if I can't remember your name.

He had already seen this movie at one of the festivals. And he said it's definitely like top 10 of the year movie. Wow. So I'm super excited about it. Yeah. That is definitely exciting. I'm going to get here real soon, April 6th, and it's going to be on VOD April 6th. Oh, awesome.

Nice. Our next one is a little strange addition to our Trail of Park here. Terminal starring Margo Robbie Simon starring Margo Robbie Simon Peg

it's okay and Mike Myers Mike Myers is actually going to be in the movie Mike Myers What's not to love Where the hell's he been No kidding

Yeah Synops I just about sunk him Yeah I did The synopsis is The movie follows Two Assassins

With a sinister Mission A fatally ill teacher and ignat ignat I don't even know what that word is a fucking janitor

and a waitress with a double life murderous consequences unravel as their lives meet at the hands of a criminal mastermind wanting revenge so

and I see here it's executive produced by Margot Robbie huh interesting I wonder if it's based they didn't even show anything yeah it's a teaser

yeah I got kind of a Allison Wonderland type vibe in the movie? Yeah. Well, they talked about going down the rabbit hole, but yeah, I mean, it was kind of,

it's really more of a teaser trailer. They didn't give you much to go on. Big time. But, I mean, you know, Margo Robbie, right? Yeah, I like Simon Pegg and Mike Myers and you got assassins and revenge

and people live in double lives, and I'm in, based on that synopsis in the cast. Yeah, hard to say without more of a trailer. Yeah. No release date yet. It says this dude to come out this year. It does look super weird, which I'm all about that, you know? Absolutely. Give me something different. You know, not the same old fucking retread shit like you were talking about in news, you know?

Yeah. And, yeah, no release day, but I will keep everybody informed. And now we move into our more superhero shit section. Here we go. Hells today. Yeah. Deadpool 2. That one I'm looking forward to. Fuck yeah. Philip, we know you are.

Yeah, main cast is coming back along with new additions, Terry Cruz, Zazi Beats, and others that I've read that they're keeping under wraps, possibly some surprises in the movie. Nice. Some cameos, maybe. Yes, and this one instead of Tim Miller will be directed by David Letch, which he's worked on the John Wick movies. Oh, wow. That makes me feel way better. Holy shit. This is going to be my holy grail of movies.

Now, seeing this trailer makes me feel a lot better because a week ago, there was some, they did a screening for the movie and there was conflicting reports. Really? First, the reports came out that this movie sucks and is a bomb. Wow. But I guess there was some going to be a lawsuit with the guy that put the tweets out. they told them remove your tweets and then some other people

that came out saying they don't know what the fuck the guy was talking about. The movie's awesome. It's going to be good. Oh, I'll bet they planted that. So. It was a plant. What do you guys think? I don't know. Did you notice on the trailer it said something about,

you know, if you love it, showed a couple of chick flicks or from the people that brought you. 27 dresses. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't put it past them to, put that shit out there just to create a fucking end joke, you know? That's true. Yeah,

they might. Man, they've got a good thing with Deadpool. I hope they keep doing them. Most amazing movie I've seen. According to the trailer, number two nails it. They don't even need a number three. There you go. And they're setting up X-Force in it,

so. Yeah. That's what I was saying. Is this going to be the prequel? That's what a lot of people are saying, because I believe I read X-Force is supposed to be filming later this year. So. Terry Cruz, sign me up.

Yeah, no kidding. So, yep, May 18th. We are definitely going to be there. And on to the movie that I have no fucking clue on why you hate this movie, Lance. You haven't either. Avengers Infinity War.

Is it? It's overkill. It's a common. of what we've been seeing for 10 years. It's what we've been waiting for. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you guys have been waiting for it. That's awesome.

Glad to hear it. It's crazy. I have a prediction. You're going to give me fucking watch it, too. Lance, you're going to give it a score of no lower than an 8 out of 10. 8 out of 10. Yes. Okay.

Wow. All right. It's going to blow Black Panther out of the water. Yeah. Black Panther was pretty good. Yeah, which news on that, I think it just became the highest grossing superhero movie.

That's crazy. Wow. Yeah. Awesome movie. Yeah, awesome movie, but man, a little bit overhyped, I guess. Yeah, I just had an argument with someone. They said Avengers was not going to make more money.

It's going to go to wait a bit. Yeah, I'm like, you're fucking crazy. because it has... Let's get real. It has Black Panther in it, plus everything else. Bye. Plus everything else. Problem is, it might only have two minutes of Black Panther in it, you know?

Well, it looks like there's a war happening in Wakanda, so... Right. Yeah. They just sucked in some brand-new audience members who have never been in the superhero genre before. And now they're stuck. Good point. Yeah. Because a lot of my...

I'll be there. my friends, a lot of my friends that saw Black Panther and loved it, didn't see Civil War. Right. Okay. Because they were a lot. They were, it kind of blew my mind. I was like, did you guys see Civil War? Because I was explaining why I thought it was all right.

I didn't love it as much as everyone else. But I was going, did you guys see Civil War? And they were like, what's that? I was like, oh, my God. I said, that was his first appearance in the MCU. And they're like, really? So they all went back to. watch that and they're like, oh my God, that was awesome.

And then I said, you got to do that one. You guys are like 10 movies behind. So you want to catch up. I said there's a new one coming out. There's a new Infinity War coming out. I said, and Black Panthers in that as well. And they're like, oh, my God, I'm going to go see that in the theater now. I'm like, oh, so all the people that never seen anything else, just Black Panther is going to go see this because he's in it.

And that's why it's just going to, money-wise, it's going to blow it out of the water. so yeah and and i'm i'm super excited because there's a lot of stuff that like they haven't even shown hawk i or ant man in any of the trailers and they're in this movie oh yeah yeah so they're they're definitely keeping some stuff uh hidden from us so i'm hoping this is the big i'm hoping this is the big i'm hoping this will be the beginning of uh the the west coast avengers at least you think so they hinted at it in the last movie and I'm hoping that we see some of them in this

to just to see them, to see them on the screen. Yeah. And we'll see. I don't know. I mean, because we already know it's the last appearance from a couple of people, right? Yeah, I think... Are we sure about that, though? I think Thor, Chris Hemsworth,

his contract's done with this movie and Chris Evans says he's done. done after Avengers 4 next year. Hmm. Oh, next year, okay. You guys think this movie's going to have an Empire Strikesback ending, where it's kind of like the bad guy sort of wins at the end? Somebody's big is going to die.

I know that. Yeah, I think it's Iron Man. Captain America. Iron Man looked like he was in pretty dire straits there. That's for sure. I mean, it could be Thor. I don't know. I think it has to be somebody.

Right. What I want the most in this movie is Thor, Teenage Groot, and Rocket to just own this movie. Yeah. Those are my favorite. Because Thor is still with them. Sure. And I hope they can just work off each other really good and get some kind of side adventure going in this movie. I hope they bring in Wolverine since they own that.

motherfucker now. How kick-ass would that be? Probably not very likely. I know. They got enough going on already, man. Pretty sure we'd know about that. Did you guys hear James Gunn said the current group that we're watching is not the group from the first Guardians? Oh, yeah. Yeah, because I guess that group, when he died, he died, and this is basically like the son of group.

Right, right. So Groot is dead. The seedlings, huh? Yeah. Which I thought was pretty interesting. Is it still Zander Cage? What the hell is his name?

Ben Diesel. I was about to say Dominic Torreto, but yeah. All three of those names are pretty similar. I mean, it's not like Ben Diesel is his real name either. You don't think so? I doubt it. It's still the Iron Giant.

Right. Two of the boys. Vin Diesel? Yeah. But, yeah, moved up release date to April 27th. Tickets are available. I have already purchased my tickets because I'm not, I am not going to be in the front row as Black Panther. No, I fucked up with Black Panther.

Well, the theater's going to be just as crazy. Yeah. So I go ahead. I'm going to go Friday morning because I lagged on mine. And I was like, oh, I forgot. they were coming out and then by the time I checked I didn't want to be yeah front row was it I said now wait

next morning I'm good yeah my wife is a big MCU fan so we had to get good seats pre-buyer make sure we got we got assigned seats so nobody can take them so we're good cool hey I've got a side

story about Vin Diesel have you guys ever heard about his Dungeons and Dragons cake that he had for his birthday a couple years ago No, yeah, he is a big Dungeons and Dragons fan. Really? Yeah, yeah, it's weird, man. I thought...

That's random. Touretti's into D&D? You know who else is? You know who else is? What is the guy that was the werewolf in True Blood? Tree Blood? The big buff dude. I really don't.

Go Mangalette, Nello, or whatever his name is. Yeah, that guy is a super big D&D fan, too. Really? Yeah. What the hell is your name? Awesome. Joe Manginelli. No.

In Justice League, he's, um... Oh, that's... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that, that, I was like, wow. Hmm. Guys, pretty awesome. Never, never know about people, right?

Leaving the M.C.U. And going to DC, you, or whatever they call it. Mm-hmm. I watched, um, Justice League again. right and i like it yeah horrible it's not horrible i want to watch it again yeah as corny as it was man i liked it yeah i also there you go i also rewatched it i also rewatched it with my i watch it with my wife here and she she's like i don't i don't see it's not that bad i don't understand what everybody's saying uh and i was like it's not that good you know what it's not that bad it's not a

great review for a fucking superhero movie. Yeah. I keep telling her with these DC movies, like, when I leave the theater, especially, what was it, Batman v. Superman? Yeah. I shouldn't walk out that movie saying it was okay. Right.

Like, you want to walk out going, oh my God, that was the most amazing thing I've ever seen. Yeah, and I think she needs to rethink. Because she said she's like Wonder Woman and Flash. And I was like, well, that means you hated most majority of the movie then.

Most of the movies. It is what it is. Before we keep going on off subject, Avengers Infinity War April 27th, and that is our final trailer.

Everybody is excited. So, Philip, you got any feedback this week? A little bit, right? Three from hell. Patrick Lear said, so more of the same. yeah probably Sherry Pierre posted a creepy video of a guy spider walking

it's on the group page go check that out huh that's cool I didn't like that that's not that was creepy it's creepy as fuck she said this guy needs to be cast in a zombie movie right now I don't know about zombie movie but

Oh, Mark Ball says he's in the void. He had a mask on and make his head look all twisted around. Really? Well, I have no plans to rewatch the void, so you guys tell me. Yeah, I know. Regarding last week's Mark Madness episode, Darren Wilson says, I've got LL Cool J stuck in my head. Nice choice.

That's all you, Philip. Thank you. I appreciate. As you can see, Deadpool 2 also stole my music. Yes. Let's see. Stephen Loblad said, what a fucking episode with an all-star cast. No shit, man.

We had some big names on that thing. Hey, thanks, Kev. We appreciate you coming on. Yeah, appreciate it, Naz. Exciting factor. You fucked it up. No pressure. Brian

Brian created a poll in the group. I said with the announcement of Rob Zombie's Devils Reject sequel three from hell coming soon. What's his best movie to come out? The results are Devil's Rejects far and away in the lead with House of a Thousand Corpses way behind. We will continue to watch. Be sure to cast your vote. I got to go House of a Thousand Corpses. I love that movie.

Same here. Yep. Same here. That's all our feedback for this week. So, as always, thanks to everyone who reaches out to us. We love the feedback. You can reach us at our Facebook or Podbean page or email us directly at the horror returns at gmail.com. Or check us out on any of the social medias, Instagram, Twitter, and Tumblr.

We love to hear from you. Let us know what's up. It's time for our featured attractions. This week, we're going to be talking about. about two Jennifer and the new movie Unsane. So, Two Jennifer trivia, the director was James Cullen Bressack, also known for Bethany. And he had writing duties on pernicious, guys, starring our friend of the show that we interviewed Russell Jeffrey Banks. So he had writing credit on that one.

Hopefully that one's, well, I'll save it. writers James Cullen Breswick and Chuck Pappas. This is a, or there is a follow-up film called from Jennifer. I think I'll let you guys watch that one. The entire film was shot and edited on the iPhone 5. Nez, you're our guest, brother. You go first, man. What, I don't want to go first?

I wanted to beat that guy's ass. Right? Which one? The main guy. Oh. I'm looking at IEPB. I saw his face and I just want to, I'm like, oh my God. His buddy and both of his buddies, I like that, man, because they just wanted to have fun and party.

But, oh, man, I just, I knew where it was going right from the beginning. Right. I mean, right after that. Oh, yeah. Right. When did this movie come out? it came out 2013

okay well it's older but after he got that phone call and when she didn't like what and then I was like she doesn't even know him or knows him but like they were never together and then I was like

oh okay so I was just like he was just pissing me off the whole time man just like oh yeah lover she's cheating on me and this and that and I had a friend.

Sorry, Chris, I'm going to throw you under the bus. I won't say your last name, but, oh, man. It was like dealing with that. This is when we were in high school. And Chris, I don't know if he's listening. But buddy, I love you. You know that. But, oh, man, I was like telling him,

do you just fucking forget this bitch, man? Just move on. And that's what I kept yelling. I was watching it on my phone. How about you lighting the fuck up? let's have a goddamn good time. Yes. I was like, dude,

fucking get over it. As the movie went on, I would just get madder and madder. And even at the very end, I was like, and that's it. Yeah. I'm glad it wasn't that long.

I mean, it kept me interested in his buddies were cool when they were partying. And I'm going to say it, man. That dude had some big tits. Was that really a big of them, man? It's that big.

It pretty much looked like a dude to me. That was rough, man. I mean, I liked what they were trying to do. But another thing that I thought was stupid, I can understand, yes, you're filming it with your phone, and you do need some light. But when they were trying to hide, when they got to the house at the end,

Yeah. And he kept, they kept the light on. He kept going, hide, hide. Don't let them see you. Of course they're going to see you. They could see the light from the phone, you fucking idiots. I was like, oh, but I just had to see where it was going. Oh, boy.

I liked his buddies. They were cool. And that guy just got, he just looked like an asshole. Terrible. He just got on my nerves the whole movie. Like right from the word go, I was like, oh. and this, oh, what was me, shit. I mean, we've all been through heartbreak.

I'm not going to say that. But I was like, fuck. I was like, why? At least his buddies were trying to tell him to calm down, especially the other dude, the one that brought the chicks to the room. He was like, man, fuck. Or even when they went to that party at the house, man, there was hot chicks there, ready for them.

I mean, he said, I got three that are, three that are for sure. And they were like, yeah. And then he was like, no, no, no. I was like, oh, come on. Absolutely dumbass. Yeah. Dude, I'm a nice guy, and I'd have been like, hey, how about you quit whining like a bitch? Okay.

Fuck you. But I like the idea of them using the iPhone. And it just kind of made, watching that and as well as the next one, just made me, want to try to give it a shot. I know it would suck, but I at least want to try to say, oh, that, okay, I give it a shot. I did it. But overall, it was entertaining, but it was just, that guy bugged the hell out of me, the main dude, Joey or whatever the hell's name was. But on the upside, what we've gotten out of this is let's make a movie, guys.

Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. I like one more thing. The guerrilla style filming that they used, walking through the airport, and I'm pretty sure they didn't get their permission to film on the plane. Oh, well, yeah.

I'm pretty sure they didn't. And I think with something like this, that's not a super big movie, they probably can get under the radar. But I was just like, well, But that whole scene when he was in the bathroom flipping out, I was like, there was no way that stewardess would be talking that clear. So they obviously added all that. It sounded like they even added his dialogue.

He might have just been in there, like flipping out, but not even saying anything because... Jumping around quietly. Yeah, that's serious shit. If you do that in a plane, even if you're just playing, messing around? Mm-hmm. No, that's federal offense shit. So I kind of think he just might have been in that silent movie style, and then they just added dialogue later, which was fine.

I mean, it was cool. I mean. And you're a guy that knows that because you work for Southwest, right? Yeah, you can't do nothing on those planes. I mean, especially like that. You'd be ass out. But, I mean, I'll give it to them. I mean, they did it and they got away with it.

So, hey, big ups to you guys. Yeah. Right. I'll go, I'll go next. I'll go next. Brian, what in the fuck? Sorry.

What did you do? Sorry. I had movies. I had an idea because they were both filmed with the iPhone. I thought it would be a good idea. I've never seen this movie, so I apologize. What could go wrong, right? Well, and the storyline.

too. It's terrible. You know what? I was so fucking pissed off at Donnie Rings for making me watch those three fucking horrible heavy metal movies until those are fucking fun. Brian, Brian, until you made me watch this

fucking piece of shit, dude. I'm going to say it right now, this is the worst movie I've ever seen. This was a like, dude, this was like a bad. No, I mean, I'm I'm not kidding around here. This was like a bad, bad, bad episode of catfish. It looked horrible, man.

Terrible. No acting. Nailed it. You know what? No, I'll tell you who nailed it. Ness nailed it when he said the fucking storyline was predictable. There wasn't one fucking thing that happened in this movie that I didn't see coming from an hour before. Usually only AJ can do that.

She fucking, I don't know how in the fucking world she can tell what's going to be at the end of a movie. We were watching a TV show there the night And she said, it's that guy It's that guy I said, it can't be that guy He's on the fucking airplane that's being held That's being kidnapped It's not that dude

He can't be in on it At the end of the show it was that guy Huh I never figured this shit out And she does That fucking pisses me off to no end But god damn it I saw everything coming in this

I got nothing else to say about this one Let's move on Who's next I'm seriously angry at this movie. They could have took out at least 20 to 30 minutes in the movie and it would have been all right. How long was it? All right?

It was an hour and 16 minutes. Yeah, it was not an hour and 17 minutes too long. It was a waste of my fucking life. It felt like forever. Like I wanted to turn it off 27 times. I mean, I'm glad that I watched it at least because of the the dude with big tits reference.

Because I knew there had to be some kind of twist. There had to be something that happened at the end to pay off and make this movie. You would think so. Something worth my life. Okay. And I wasn't entirely mad at the last five minutes of the movie. It was okay. And I wasn't really super mad at the acting because I think that they did a at least

convincing job. Unfortunately, he did a convincing job of playing a little bitch. God damn it. I could not listen to this motherfucker one more second. And the volume, let's talk about the volume. Here's what happens when you record on a goddamn

iPhone. Some of the people when they talk are super fucking loud and some of them are so quiet that you can't hear a goddamn word they say. I was hitting the volume button like I was on it. I had the remote in my hand. It was turning the volume. up and down the entire movie.

It drove me insane. This was a piece of shit. It might be the worst movie that I've ever watched. I was going to ask you guys, I was like, okay, are we having the director on or friends with anybody? So I don't have to like, I don't care. I did not burn fridges because this is fucking awful.

Like, this was way worse than that thing that we watched with the horror anthology that was, you know, on a zero dollar budget by an amateur. filmmaker, this was fucking terrible. So, one star. We usually don't agree. And I'm usually not mean on

movies, but one star. This is the worst movie that I've ever seen. I wanted to turn it off, and I wish I did. Hey, it's on Amazon Prime, folks. Anybody listen? It's on Amazon Prime if you want to check it out. Hey, Brian might like it.

You know, put your hand in a fire or some shit like that, because that would be way more fun. Yeah. Right. All right. I have to agree with everything everybody has said on this. I hate this fucking movie. I apologize. I thought it would fit in with the motif of the new film we're talking about.

Uh-huh. This was the longest hour and 16 minutes of my. life. I hated every fucking person in this movie. I did kind of like the cousin that was filming everything, because I kind of know someone like him, because the one funny

part I had when Joey was being a little bitch crying about how the other dude got him punched in the eye and got him a prostitute, a tranny. So showed you a good time, all his cousin had to say was, oh, that was

classic Martin. but his cousin kind of lost it for me near the end when he found he found his friend dead and he all he said all he had to say was sorry bro and then closed the trunk and they went and looked for joey and was like what happened to joey he's like hey bro why's martin dead in the trunk did you do something to martin but this movie was predicated from the beginning. I can't give it no kind of I was, I do like

the idea of using the iPhone as, you know, to film it. But this was not the way to do it. The only thing I thought was, else that was kind of funny was his song to Jennifer at the end. Oh, man. I thought it kind of added something to

I wish he was that character in the last five minutes throughout the movie. Yeah. But not, not whining. he crying about everything, Joey, that I totally praise that guy at the party for whooping his ass.

Because he should have been getting his ass kicked. Yes. The hero of the movie. I wish you to die 10 minutes into it. But I... Hell of him. Dude. That's hard. This movie, this movie has created

a new category for our end of the year wrap up show. Yeah. I was waiting for this motherfucker to die, dude, the whole time. We, can you somebody shut him the fuck up. We will be picking our worst classic, not classic movie,

older movie of the year. Oh no. Oh no. What's not fair, dude? Nailed. Nobody else says a chance. That's not fair. I know. Yeah, I have. Go watch the bye-bye, man. That's a goddamn classic.

So, shit, I would have rather watch, uh, what the fuck was it? That we read, the town that dreaded sundown. Oh. by a long shot. In this movie, oh, go ahead, sorry.

No, go ahead. In this movie, you had to watch it all the way to the last second. Right, right. Because when the credits were rolling, you hear the girl whimpering, spoiler alert, and Joey talking or singing or whatever,

all the way to the very end. Yeah, that's what I was talking about, this song. I thought that was the most entertaining part of the entire movie. I don't know if it's because the credits were going on. I can't even say that was entertaining, man. I'm telling you, when the credits hit, I was like, oh, thank God. And I turned that shit off. Both party scenes were my favorite parts of the movie because it just made me like,

what was the guy filming? Steve, was that his name? Who knows, man. Yeah, Stephen. He just made me like. he's actually the writer and the director. He made me laugh the whole time when he was filming it. I mean, he was funny.

And good for him. He kept the phone sideways and was right in there. And I'll give it to whoever their buddy was that they were fighting with. Yeah, I wouldn't matter to him either. You could see he was pulling back on the face punches. But when the body shots, that sounded real when he was really put to those guys. That was funny. How old were these guys supposed to be?

I don't know. The one that ended up in the trunk seemed like he was in his 40s. Right? But they were like. Maybe 30s. Rolling around like they were in their 20s, man. I was like, what? I don't understand.

I'm not. Bro, look, bro. Bro. Look, bro. Hey, bro. Are you guys like? Oh, man. playing 20 years under your age here?

Is that what's happening? Yeah. And the guy wearing the, the main guy is wearing the, he's wearing the took the whole time or whatever. Is that what you call it? The Canadian term for the little beanie hat. Oh, the beanie, yeah. And I have friends that, or I know gals that will give it up, but not three in a row. I got three girls that are for a sure thing.

And I was like, okay. Okay, sure. The only part of that that gave me hope is Martin at one point was saying that, you know, like, let's party like we used to or something like that. And I was like, okay, maybe they're just reliving some glory years. That makes sense. Kind of like very, very bad things or something like that. Yeah, yeah. I thought one of the hookers was going to end up dead or something, you know?

I don't know. Fuck it. I was hoping that dude with tits was going to bash that piece of shit's head in, man. That guy. I really hate him. I really hate him. Well, is he anything else coming up? I don't know.

My favorite line in that scene when they were with the hookers is. And it was like, when they were talking to it goes, yeah, man, who dick is probably bigger than yours. Oh, wow. But yeah, fuck this movie. All right. Well, you've already got my score. It's a star. once one one

one out of ten one out of ten if you can give it that um i only do it because uh the uh the the two guys that were with him were they were kind of fun okay

yeah i'll give it a two i mean it made me laugh from some parts but majority of the movie was just trash two yeah that's that's being nice i'm i'm giving it a one half Brian? One. Again, I apologize. So it sounds like we're all in agreement.

Sometimes you've got to get through the mud to reach the end of the rainbow. How did you find this movie? I had heard about it a long time ago. I think they made a big deal out of it being filmed with an iPhone. And then when Unsaim was coming out, it just popped in my head. But I should have did my homework on it. Well, I forgot it. If only a good director would make a movie with an iPhone.

So our next movie, Unsaid, directed by Steven Sutterberg, also known for Solaris and Contagion. Writers were John Bernstein and James Greer. Also known for Larry, the Cable Guy Health Inspector. Oh, boy. We may be in trouble here, boys. Who has seen that coming? As we all know, the film was shot entirely with an iPhone camera. the budget was actually only

1.2 million according to the Times UK and technically this is Steven Soderberg's first horror movie so Kevin you're our guest man

you want to you want to go or pass it off I'll go I mean it wasn't a horror movie first of all it was more of just a thriller yeah kind of psychological thriller

yeah I had no idea I did not read into this or anything I just saw the trailer and thought it looked cool. I had no idea that they shot this with an iPhone.

Watching the movie, I was like, how are they filming? How are they filming this? I mean, I liked what they did with it. How they filmed the whole movie, each scene. I was just sitting there, there was some parts where I kind of zoned out because I was trying to sit there and figure out how they did this. I said, did they have

like multiple cameras that they set everywhere? And, and, and just left them in the room because there was a lot of shots that were like the camera didn't even move. And I thought that was brilliant camera work. And like I said, I had no idea this was shot with an iPhone. So, wait, while you were trying to figure out how they shot it, you still had no idea they shot it with an iPhone. No-uh. Wow, yeah.

I thought it was just... I agree. I thought it was just little stationary cameras. they just had set up. I didn't. I knew it looked gritty, and I was, well,

maybe there was just some kind of filter that they're using. And I was like, whoa, I mean, it was a surprise. I mean,

watching it, not knowing anything. I saw the trailer a while ago, and then I saw it again the night before when I went seeing something else. And I was like,

wow, this looks pretty good. And Jay Farrow, I mean, I loved him in Saturday Night Live and had no, idea that he was in this movie

and I liked his character. I thought he was going to be the typical thug that they always have to throw in these movies. But he turned out to be cool. I mean, and it was good to see that he can be serious actor.

I'm just used to seeing him with stand-up or just his little skits and his funny characters he created on Saturday Night Live. Was that the black dude? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I loved him. I was waiting for him to do a voice, one of his voices. Right.

Not to cut you off, it's just when they casted him. I know he's known for doing impressions and stuff. I thought they were going to play into that with him being in a mental institution. He looked familiar. I didn't know he was. Yeah, he's one of my favorite's own SNL right now. Actually, one of my few that I like. I haven't watched it in forever.

I've got to check out some of his stuff. It's really bad right now. Oh, yeah. No, it's not good. No, it isn't. It's hell of good. It's been good every season. Yeah. I watch it every week.

You watch the same one I'm watching? Are you watching reruns? I watch it every week. Oh, dude. I love it. Let me tell you something. Nez, I've never missed one episode from season one episode one on. I've seen every single fucking episode.

And in my opinion, this is like one of the three or four worst seasons. Just my opinion, man. But no, I love him in most of the skitts. he does, but... Yeah, but that's just like your opinion, man. It's just my opinion. Absolutely, dude. That's all it is, too. I mean, but with this movie, I mean,

it drugged in some parts. I mean, it could have been maybe either jazzed up a little more or cut that scene out, but I could see what they were trying to do with it. I don't want to get into spoilers just yet, but... Right. I don't even know who this main girl was. if I'd seen her in something

I don't remember. Yeah, my wife was telling me she plays Queen Elizabeth on the TV show The Crown. Oh, wow. Yeah, she's going to be in the new girl with the dragon Dragon tattoo movie.

She's going to be Elizabeth Sandler? I believe so. Oh, wow. Okay, that's odd casting, but sure. But, I mean, I liked what I saw. I mean, other than just trying to figure out what they did and look, beautiful how they filmed it, but I liked the story of what was going on.

This young lady was just struggling with a mental issue, and I thought she pulled it off pretty good. I mean, there was times where it was bugging the hell out of me, and then, but I liked what she did with her character, and all the other characters, once she got into the little, I don't want to call it a mental institution with the little. That's exactly what it was, right? Yeah. Yeah.

That's not a spoiler. I mean, everybody knows that who's seen any of the trailers, you know? I mean, I liked all them. I like the nurses. I mean, no one can ever beat Nuss Ratchet, but it was, they were good. They were good, they were good,

they were good characters in this, as well as the little ones, the violet character. I like, I didn't like that. Juno Tempo, she is a fucking nutcase, for real. I didn't. Well, that makes sense.

What I've seen from that. liked her character her character was good I really enjoyed this movie I mean like I said there was a couple parts that was like yeah okay come on let's get going but overall man I thought it was it was a really good movie

I mean I enjoyed it I will buy it when it comes out and I was telling my wife about it and I said you know what let's just go see it so I'll probably go see it again one more time yeah it's worth to rewatch I think yeah I think so. Can I go? I'll go.

Yeah, sure. All right. Guys, I love this movie. It was like when it first started out and I completely had forgotten why we were doing this show, right? As I normally do. So no idea that it was shot on an iPhone camera, not a fucking clue.

And in the first like five minutes of the movie, I thought, man, there's just, some really interesting camera angles. I like what they're doing here. They got some like great cinematography growing. I hope this movie doesn't suck. And it didn't at all, man. It just kept getting better. Like I became

more and more invested with this girl and I don't know how much to really give away but because... Don't see much away yet. Yeah, because I was I had forgotten the trailer too. So I knew kind of nothing coming into this.

And, yeah. Hey, I got a lot of shit going on. Oh, that's a good thing, though. But it was great, man. It was such a pleasant surprise. I was invested with her the whole way through. I thought all of the bad guys, I guess, per se, did a great job because I fucking hated them.

I felt everything that she felt. through the entire movie, and they did a great job of it. I even love the very, the very, very final scene. This was more than just really good to me, man. This was a really kick-ass movie. Might be on a top ten list. Wow. Yeah, at least for horror.

I mean, it is kind of a psychological thriller as opposed to horror, but I think that belongs in the same category. so I'm going to include it. So top 10 horror, definitely. Brian, you like it, Brian? I really, really enjoyed this movie. I think it had a great cast. I don't know if you guys really noticed

the guy that was the the guy. Oh, shit, is that going to be spoiling it? Probably. Okay, I'll wait on that one. I think we know who you're talking about. Yeah. Claire Foy, though, I loved her in this.

I think she pulled it off because I think the whole, is it really happening? Is it not happening aspect of the movie? I think she pulled it off. Great. I love the whole use of the iPhone. I love Juno Temple when she's in a movie. I think she's a quirky, crazy little actress. Which one is she?

The one with the braids. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah. Jay Farrow's character I really enjoyed because I thought it was going in a different direction. And I like where it went. Yeah, it was just a fantastic movie. And I'm definitely up for a rewatch of this. The only thing, I hated the fucking music in it.

The music was weird. It was all right. I was like, like, fuck. Did you make, did they make the music on their iPhone also? I'm like, I don't know. It threw me off. I didn't even really notice the music.

Yeah. There was a main beat that they played, like, in the beginning and at the end, and it just, the way it was, it just threw me off a little bit. Yeah. If I didn't notice it, that means it definitely wasn't, like, super good. Yeah. I think if there was times it dragged, I think if this was the runtime of two, Jennifer.

And to Jennifer was the runtime of like a music video. Yeah. Right. Okay, then we could have made a decent fucking movie

because I wouldn't have been sick of him crying about shit five minutes into it. I think that was the minute I saw him. I know, right? I'm just, I'm telling you,

the IMDP page, not to go back, has got the picture of that guy from the very first scene and I saw it and went, ugh. but unsane I think is a fucking fantastic movie

and I can't wait to rewatch it because I think this might be a movie that you get more out of it on rewatches so I definitely want to rewatch it again Lance what did you think? Well I'm going to call it right now within the next two years I mean what's today? Today's like what mid-march, late March of 2018?

Give her about two years, Claire Foy is going to have a Best Actress Award. Probably. She was, she really cheap. Man, I tell you what, this was a powerful movie. It was very well done. And I'm going to tell you right now that Stephen Soderberg is one of the best directors working today. Because this dude can do stuff that's so... The last movie he did was Logan Lucky.

I mean, can you picture two more different films than these two? I mean, he did the Oceans 11, Oceans 12, Oceans 13. People want to show up in his movies, you know, and they probably will work for free just to get a chance to work with Soderberg. On a fucking iPhone. You know what? That is insane to me. You know what?

It just shows you the difference that a master can use the same exact tool. And you just see the difference between a master and a hack. You know? I mean, I'm kind of glad we did watch the other movie to tell you the truth, because I was getting really nervous about this one thinking, how in the world on an iPhone is it going to be worth a shit? You know what I really liked about it? It's from the very, very beginning. I felt like I was like peeking around a corner watching what was going on. And it's not found footage at all.

The other one is found footage. This one is by far not. Yeah. You know, the acting was great. You guys nailed it. Pharaoh was amazing. Joshua Leonard was amazing. Amy Irving.

It's good to see her back after our year-in horror 76. Carrie? Yeah, it's just, I don't know. You guys have said a lot. It's a really good movie. And I would highly recommend it. And there were not very many people in my theater. I think there were like three of us.

So it ain't going to do very well, but it's going to make back this $1.2 million. Soderberg does. what Soderberg wants to do, I think, is the moral to the story here, guys. And I'm glad he did this film. And I'm, you know, it was so refreshing to finally, uh, to finally see a good, suspenseful movie this year instead of this fucking tripe that they've been throwing at us up till now. So, yeah, I think we're all, we're all on board.

You guys ready for scores? Yeah. And off, and off of a $1.2 million budget. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to make a ton of cash on this one. Yeah, well, he knows what he's doing, you know. He's a master.

That's the difference. Ness, what's your score, man? I'll give it a nine. I mean, I liked it that much. Wow. A nine. Yeah, dude. Did you go, oh, you went from a two to a nine.

I went from a one to a nine because I completely, I think that it's got just enough, just enough RTSY different in a, to a really good story with really good acting to make it maybe a potential classic. Yeah? Yeah. I'm going to go strong 7.5.

Really good movie. I'm also going to give it a 9. I love the cast in this. And this is definitely not that you guys brought it up. I'm glad I watched two, Jennifer, because this is definitely the right way to use an iPhone

to film a movie. Two, Jennifer looks like it was filmed on an iPhone 5. So, which iPhone was this shot with? It says here 7 plus. Okay.

That's what I have. Well, then now I know I can do it. Yeah. And I want to see some behind the scenes of how what did they have I know they weren't standing

they're holding it with their hand what little device did they yeah they had to have something holding it in place right yeah some kind of one of those I see those little fancy

little things you can hook up to it to where if you're just walking along holding it it's not all shaky I mean maybe they use something like that's not that what?

A selfie? I don't know. Is that not? I don't know. But when the Blu-ray comes out, I want to see something how they made this morning. Right. That stuff. It was cool.

They used a lot of crazy tricks considering it was with an iPhone. Yeah, it still boggles my mind. I have no idea how they did it. Okay. Well, hey, we're in agreement. We all strongly, strongly recommend this movie. and we can't say a whole lot until we spoil. So you guys ready for spoilers?

Yeah. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right.

Somebody was going to say something about the main actor, right? Yeah, Joshua Leonard, the guy that was the stalker. Do you guys know he was one of the guys from the Blair Witch Project? I found that out. Oh. Like one of the guys that was in the movie? He was like a cameraman or something, wasn't he? I think so.

I remember. I knew he looked familiar. He was the stalker guy, wasn't he? Yeah. Huh. Yeah. I knew I've seen him somewhere before. I know that guy.

I know that guy. I bet they picked him on purpose because of that. You think so? He looked definitely. look like a douchebag, that's for sure. Because he looks like, like you, you look at him and you go, I've seen you somewhere before, you know? And then that was part of the whole, uh, the whole stick, you know, like, was she crazy or was she not? Was this really the guy? Or, or was it just some dude? Yeah. That, that's what, that's what threw me off about this. I mean, I thought it was

going to be something totally different to where it was just all. in her head and she was just randomly seeing some dude that kind of looked like her stalker. Yeah. That's what I got from the trailer. I wish they kind of would have played in that little, a little bit more

because there was a couple scenes where she seen him, but it was really some like the other, the one nurse guy that she punched in the face. I kind of wanted a little bit more to kind of give you the appearance that maybe it's maybe it's her. Maybe she's just fucking crazy.

but I think we kind of got to know that's really him a little bit quicker than I thought it would have happened. Same here. I thought they were going to drag it out or have more like a twist ending or something. But I also feel like we were so invested in that particular girl, you know, like with her story and the wrongs that they were doing against her that you were mad about.

I kind of wasn't mad that they let you know. Yeah. Yeah, she's not crazy. This really is the guy. And these people are all. assholes. And I had brought up Juno Temple. I love her because she's a fucking nutcase.

Yeah. I told my, my wife was kind of interested until I told her about the scene where she took the, the used tampon out and hit her, hit the other girl on the face. And she was like, I'm not watching this shit. But,

uh, yeah, go ahead. I liked, um, I've never been in one of those places. I had some friends I have. And I really want one of my buddies to see this and ask him, is it like that in there? But I was like, they really just throw them in one big room.

I mean, you don't know. What can happen, right? Yeah, I mean, I assume there must be levels. Mostly unsupervised. Yeah, I mean, you got the men, men, women. You got the I am. Hi. my name is Jacob guy that groped her

and immediately got kicked in the nuts. Kicked in the nuts. And then she got in trouble for it. I mean, I was slapping the shit out of everybody in this movie. No kidding. She was fighting to the end, huh? I wanted a little more

backstory on Jay Farrell's character because they didn't really why was he there? I mean, he didn't see him. Come to find out he was a reporter. that yeah yeah i would it probably would have been i think better for his character if you would have found out

if there if there's something that he had invested in this like maybe he had a family member or something something that went through something in this facility i want i wanted to know yeah what he did to get thrown in there i mean i yeah we did realize he was the reporter but

right i wanted to know and as far as smuggling in phones i was like Okay. I mean, I'm sure. Because they, they, they, they, basically, they strip searched her and took everything from it. Yeah, exactly. How did he, how did he manage that one? He must have had somebody on the inside, bring them a phone. Yeah, I'm sure. I've worked in a prison. I've worked in a prison. You can smoke shit in, I promise you. We found guys with all kinds of shit. Yeah. But, uh, I, I, I think it was, I think it was okay that, uh, maybe they didn't give you too much backstory. They just gave you a, hey, This guy is definitely not crazy, and he was exposing this crazy fucking place for what it is. Yeah, I was fine. I was fine with it.

Yeah, and let's not forget Matt Damon just pops up in this fucking movie out of nowhere. Yeah, man, that was fun. For like two minutes. Not even that, 30 seconds. I did not see that coming. I know. And I thought he was a bit of a nutcase, too, with all his, things about stalkers and protecting yourself

and he had a whole fucking book on it. Right? I started to worry whether it is... Is it Jason Bourne or is it that guy from... The other guy that looks like Matt Damon. A fat Damon? Yeah.

Oh, shit. What is his name? Fat Damon is his name, dude, isn't it? That guy is a good actor and you know what? I can't ever remember his name, but fat Damon always comes to my head. Right. Because that's about how he was in Black Mirror.

Oh, he, or he, it, I knew there was something wrong with her because she just seemed like a loose cannon kind of. Well, she was, but. Sure. And like in the beginning when she met that guy at the bar and took him home and was, ready to do what she had to do. And then just threw herself on the floor and started screaming. And then ran in the bathroom to take pills.

That was kind of weird. I thought we were going in a different direction, man. Yeah. Yeah. What did you think was coming? I thought she was like faking that he was beating on her or something, the way she threw herself against the wall. Yeah, it seemed that way, didn't it?

Like she was going to get him in trouble or something. I think it's a disorder to where it just comes and goes. And I think the whole stalking thing, at first I was thinking it was all on her head and nobody was stalking her. And she was just maybe thinking that. But I think all that and the stress of everything building up onto her. Yeah. And she had to have been really super stressed out because when she went to talk to the psychiatrist and started signing all these papers, she didn't fucking read anything.

She just wrote her name. And her whole... It's all good. Her whole story about suicidal thoughts was very specific on how she would do it. So I thought that was why they locked her up. Yeah, it was. That was exactly why. That was the one.

Well, I didn't go off of the whole, like, she just signed the wrong paper. I thought they were just going to lock her up anyways, because that whole, like, knowing which pills are, you know, the most dangerous. I'll just start taking those from, you know, off the list. And I was just like, yeah, you thought about this a lot. Yeah, but just because she's thought about it doesn't mean that she's thinking about it now. And it doesn't mean that, you know, you should lock her up, you know. I think she was expressing something that, you know, everybody has thought about it from time to time. And, you know, people get depressed, dude.

It happens. If you haven't ever in your entire life thought about how you might kill yourself, I mean, I can't tell you how I would do it. I haven't thought that hard about it. But if you have, I don't think that that means you're actually going to do it and that you should be locked up, you know? And so I felt like it was a pretty good representation of like an every person thing, you know, if you go in to see this psychiatrist and you're trying to be brutally honest because you're trying to get help. and then they just fucking lock her up without or even knowing it. It was just such an invasion of privacy, man. Yeah, that was frightening.

That was frightening. I knew exactly where it was going as soon as she sat down in that chair. And the lady at the reception said, just sit there, somebody will be with you. Yeah. I knew it was all over. Yeah. And I wanted a little bit more with the stalker character. Right.

Because I don't know. I just wanted a little bit more than this, you know, she read to his father. for her a couple months and then he just fell madly in love with her I don't I don't know maybe a little flashback or backstory on him because I figured that he was just crazy anyway and then just yeah instantly fell in love with her because that scene which I thought my favorite scene is when they were sitting in that little padded room yeah she like just turned the tables on him

and oh yeah how he was all Mr. Ruffington in the beginning and how she just flipped the switch on him and then he just like cowered down into the corner when she was raising up on him man I mean I thought that was cool so I mean that I knew he was crazy

I mean just these these guys that do stuff like that uh like the that stupid fuck Joey in the Jennifer one man fucking Joey you could just fucking you could see it and right it wasn't it wasn't that

bad with this guy David I think his name was he wasn't as bad as Joey Joey he's a fucking ass Oh yeah this guy was at least trying to Keep it under wraps and be cool And he thought about what he was doing In order to

Uh To sneak his way Fudge the papers and everything To be a nurse or whatever Orderly To work there so I mean, he really thought this out. Yeah, he pulled it off.

Thinking about all that right now, obviously he's following her, and you know that, because you see him peeking through the bushes and everything, but how the hell did he come up with this plan that fast? Yeah, this is a good question, man. I was like, this seems like a genius, huh? Within the seven days. But that scene you brought up was fucking great, though,

because she, I mean, to use an expression, she killed two birds with one stone because he had him bring, what was it, Violet, uh, jail temple's character and he's like, you need, you need to fuck her in front of me.

That way, I'll, I know, what does she say? I'll be your last, but I can't be your first. I can't be your first. That's kind of weird.

Yeah. And then he got, uh, that, that scene was crazy when, uh, he broke her neck. Yeah.

I was, I was legitimately scared. That, that made me, jump. I wasn't expecting that. But how did he get out? How did he get out of the padded room? I guess she didn't lock it, which is dumb.

She did a lot of dumb things. How did we get out of the padded room, man. She just like ran out. Right. Yeah. And, well, to be fair. Oh, she didn't lock it after her. I don't think that she locked it.

I think she did a lot of really stupid shit in this movie. For one thing, she should have double-tapped him with that pig sticker. Well, that, and I mean, like, her first call probably should have been to her mom instead of the cops, but I can see that. Right. And then, yeah, and then she definitely should have, if she's going to kill him, kill him. Probably if you're in the padded room with the bear, don't poke it. She could have very, yeah, she could have very easily just been like,

Like, instead of, like, jumping on his ass and putting him in the corner like she did, I mean, that could have gone the wrong way real quick. And maybe she should have just gone with it until she got out and then tried to escape, which probably would have been a better option. Might have worked a little better, huh? But I like what he did, you know, I thought it took a lot of character development to know. that he wasn't going to attack her. He loved her so much that he would literally do anything for her. And not to make that romantic sounding

because the guy was a fucking creep. But also, I mean, another thing I liked about that scene when they were just sitting there talking, that was a long shot. And there was no breaks. Yeah. I just loved how they filmed it.

It's like they just, all right, action, go. And it starts with her scurrying around the room away from him and ends with kind of him scurrying around the room away from her. Yeah, I mean, I just liked how they, I loved how they filmed this whole movie and just still being blown away that it was all shot with an iPhone. Right, because that was, that was going to be my first comment. Great cinematography on a fucking iPhone. Yeah. Well, that's, uh, that's the difference right there, you know. And this movie fucking rocks, man.

I mean, I love it. I would have gave it a 10 if, but there was a couple parts where I was like, okay, come on. Yeah, you're stretching a little bit. Yeah, you're stretching. Yeah, so, but, I mean, overall, this movie, it's brilliant. I loved it. Yeah, and I only gave it a 7.5, but I mean, you know, keep in mind the movie before this was a 0.5.

So it's a big improvement. Yeah. Maybe that's why I loved it so much. Yep. You guys ready to call it tonight until next week? Yeah, side note. Side note, the actor's name is Jesse Plemons, not Fat Damon. Ah, Jesse Plymins, there you know. Don't call him Fat Damon.

Hey, Fat Damon. Holy shit. All right, well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at the Horror Returns at gmail.com. Follow us everywhere you follow podcast. Look for us on iTunes and Nez. Where can they find you, man? You guys already know, but if you don't, just go to Podbean or iTunes and look up Skaternez podcast network.

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When we recorded? Yeah Feels like Feels like a month ago Yeah I mean Last week was fun Uh

It's always good To come on here man I mean You guys are definitely family Your brothers and I love all three of you. And, yeah, Texas Frightmare is coming up quick, man, and I can't wait. Yeah, love you too, man.

It's going to be a good time, man. Frightmare for Life. Yeah. And don't forget to check out the Horror Mafia. Go check out their podcast. I think they have maybe a video section, I'm not sure. But check it out. Yeah, I think they do some YouTube videos live.

Yeah. I told him my camera wasn't working. It was working. I didn't want to be fucking video. I didn't have time. My head was messed up. It's the end of the day. But I'm sure the guys can forgive me.

I won't end up swimming with the fishes, I'm sure. Uh-oh. So next week, we're going to be joined by a special guest, Art from Cali. And we're going to talk about what new movie, Brian? Uh, ready player one. Check it out. And we will also be reviewing the last Starfighter. That is.

Yes. All right, now. Wait, before you go, did you guys see Pacific Rim? The new one? The new one? Yeah. No, I'm checking it out tomorrow. Oh, yeah.

I haven't either. I want to see it. No, I might watch it this week. I was going to, man, but that was only if Unsane wasn't going to be showing at enough theaters around here. But it was, it had a pretty wide release. So I'll catch it later, though. But I really enjoyed re-watching the first one. It's stupid, corny, fun.

Jacks is literally playing Jacks. Just like Nigan seems to be literally playing Nigan and Rampage. So, yeah, a lot of fun. I'm okay with that. So until the horror returns again, no. My fuck you.