The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #96: The Last Starfighter (1984) & Ready Player One (2018) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: December 15, 2022

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James victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome, you have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back to the horror returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Philip, and we've got a treat tonight.

I think this is the first show since Fast and Furious that we've got Art Marillo in the house. What's going on, Art? Hey guys, thank you so much for having me, and it's been a while, but I'm glad I was actually asked back after my last poor performance. Shut up. Nobody performs poorly here, dude. Just show up. We just have a good time. This isn't about trying to win a Govy Award or something, you know?

All right. But are you still fast and furious? Oh, yeah, baby. So what's going on with you, man? Oh, nothing, man. Same old, same old here. Just had a week's vacation, which is actually not a week's vacation, because this is one of the first times I spent doing honey-do lists all around the house,

redecorating. So not so fun for me. How about you guys? Do what you got to do. Yep. Yeah, that sounds like a staycation. I've always got shit going on, man. It felt more like a prison sentence.

Yeah. That's every weekend. Yeah, I cleaned my garage out yesterday. I've been promising my wife I was going to do that. I finally started to get it ready to... I got a dartboard in there. I'm starting to get ready to bring the pool table in. So we'll see how this goes.

I'll help you move it. Yeah, all right, cool. We'll do it, man. Brian, you guys warming up up there? Yep. Snow's melting, doing some spring cleaning. Notice I got a lot of collectibles. that are just like everywhere.

So I'm kind of packing up some stuff, seeing what I'm going to leave out for display. You know, it's a lot of work. You can't sell some stuff. 40-year-old virgin style. I can't sell none of my stuff. Billions, man. That's off the table, huh?

All right, well, listen, Art, you're our guest. So you know how this works, brother? You want to go first? Tell us what's the coolest thing you checked out this week? I don't have much to watch the one movie that I saw two things. I got to watch two things. One cool, well, not so cool. One thing that was cool that I really was looking forward to was annihilation.

Yeah. The Natalie Portman movie, and I'm a big fan of that sort of sci-fi since contact. I remember seeing contact at the third year when I was a kid, and then that led me back to 2001 Space Odyssey, Encounters a Third Kind. So I'm always a fan of, you know, somewhat realistic sci-fi first encounter stuff, and that one just had me blown away. You know, I was, you know, I, I know it got a bad rap for the limited release, and then it got released overseas on Netflix. But I just, you know, intelligently done sci-fi is right up my alley. And that one, I was really happily entertained with that one, man.

I like the two. Yeah, I mean, it was cool. You know, there's a little, a lot, you know, a lot of human drama in there, but stuff that made sense, you know, real life stuff. And then, you know, you throw in the whole twist with, you know, the aliens and, you know, The little we know, and I like it when filmmakers that are smart filmmakers, you know, just give you enough answers to question, make you question, you know, have you lead to your own decision on what it was or what it could be, you know? Yeah. Lance is, you're reading the book, right?

Yeah, that was going to be my cool of the week, but I think I'll wait until next week when I finish it and start it and start into the second one. I bought the whole trilogy art. Oh. Oh, wow. I'm going to have to check that out, man. I love the movie. The books. Books got some differences, but no, my cool of the week is way outside horror. It's way outside anything we would normally cover. And I thought it was just going to be a corny musical, but the greatest showman with Wolverine. Fucking Wolverine singing show tunes. Pretty damn good storyline. It's really all about freaks and outcast. It would make a really good double-bubrined. It would make a really good double-bubes.

Bill with Todd Browning's freaks, I think. It's got that old school feel to it, and it's just basically about, like, outsiders not fitting in. And I just really like the storyline a lot. And, you know, was it corny as hell? Of course. You know, did the musical numbers get to be overbearing, of course. Did Hugh Jackman and Zach Efron and Zendaya and everybody hammed up?

What do you think? But, you know, it was a good story. I actually really enjoyed it. And kind of surprised. myself that I did. I got about 10 minutes into that and it was just too much for me. You tapped out.

Most of my... I tapped out. I was giving to try the first big musical scene there and then the second one. I don't want to spoil her too much, but there's a part where there's no huge...

I mean, you know, huge... That was the worst part by far. That was a huge... I was like, wow, they're going for a long time. It's like, there's a real musical musical. You would think... We try to watch those sound of music. There's a time jump, dude, right after where you did there.

Well, I saw the, I like said, when Hugh Jacqueline grows up, I saw that part. And then I was like, oh, this is too much. My wife's like this side eyeing me. I'm like, I guess I got to turn this off. Well, I thought, have you guys ever seen any Cirque de Soleil shows? Yeah, yeah. There was a lot of that in there, man. That was pretty cool.

Sorry about that. I thought it was pretty well filmed. I knew the guy that directed it, it looks like he'd never done a feature before. Yeah, I saw that. Shorts, but I guess he's tagged for two or three more like huge monster budget releases. So, you know, I don't...

Well, didn't this do good in the Academy Awards, too? Didn't it want, like, Best Original Score or something like that or Best Original Song? Maybe the song. Brian, help us out here, man. You definitely got talked about it. I think it did. I'm not sure.

Yeah, I think the song... It was a well-done, well-done movie. I don't know how the guy got that much money to make it, to be honest. Yeah, that looked like a big budget thing. That seems like a movie that we ride up up Brian's Alley, I thought. Brian? Cool of the week. Good guy?

I've seen it available. I was going to check it out, but I can't do the musicals. It's too much. You should probably steer clear then. What did you check out, man? Philip, you want to go ahead? Because I got a list. Yeah, sure.

I got a couple of them. I watched Only the Brave with my wife, which is obviously one that's way out of our genre. But it was cool, man. Very military-style guys. It's kind of cool to watch a movie about guys being guys. And you don't see that a whole lot anymore. And then my other one is Santa Clarita. Diet. I love this show. I watched the entire second season in like a day. And I don't have time to do that at all. So I was hating life the next day. But well worth it, man. If you haven't watched it at all, go check it out. And if you're waiting on the second season for some reason, then jump on that shit. It's funny.

Are those 30-minute episodes? Yeah, I think so. Okay, because I can probably get into that. And they're right on the second season too? Yeah, they just did the whole second season. And I just, I really like the, uh, the vibe between, uh, Drew Barry Moore and, uh, what's the hell, what the hell? What's the guy's name?

Josh, Josh, Josh, Jamel, or? Nah, he's the one that looks like him. Yeah, that's not a dude from Justin. From justified. Uh, Timothy Oliphant. Yeah. Yeah. They have a really cool vibe together.

And, uh, I, I, I, I get, maybe it's because it's so relatable, because I sort of have that relationship with my wife a lot of times. And they're really funny together. They kind of bounce things off. It's great. Cool. Yeah, I checked out a lot of movies as well.

First of all, I checked out Tomb Raider, the new Tomb Raider. Oh, yeah, was it good? I like them better than the Angelina Jolie movies. Well, yeah. It's not great. I think Alicia McCandor did a great job as Laura Croft, but from what I'm hearing, if it gets another one, she's not even going to be in it.

Really? I guess it don't really matter. Yeah, I saw a lot of previews. I don't even know it was out. Yeah. I don't think a lot of people did. Also checked out Pacific Rim Uprising. Oh.

It's okay. You can tell, you definitely can tell Del Toro had nothing to do with this movie. It's just straight popcorn movie all the way. Yeah. And I really didn't like John Boygan in this movie. He was a little, a little too. I don't know. He was trying to be funny throughout the movie, and he wasn't.

So. I don't know. I don't know. I don't particularly like him in Star Wars, to be honest with you. We're not getting into the Star Wars talk here, are we? We came. Yeah. I saw your little comment.

The last Starfighter, always already better than Last Jedi. We'll get into that. Let's see. A trailer that we reviewed, Apartment 212, check that movie out. Okay.

Kind of slow, but it picks up in the last 30 minutes. I think the 30 minutes saved the movie for me. I was ready to tap out. You mean kind of like House of the Devil? House of the Devil? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Similar to that, like super slow burn until the last 15 minutes and then it's just crazy. Yeah, for the first like 45 minutes, I was just, come on, let's go. Something happened. And then when it got into it, I was all in. I think I've seen that Jim Law had commented that he's seen it. He also said the same thing. He liked it slow in the beginning.

So I do recommend people to check it out. And the last movie I checked out was I Kill Giants. Oh, I saw that one too. That was by Not So Cool. Okay. Okay. I didn't read, What was it, a graphic novel? Yeah.

Well, they call everything a graphic novel now, but it was a sixth-issue miniseries, and now the cool thing is it's a graphic novel because Combook just sounds too nerdy. Okay. I never checked it out. I gave it a watch. That the trailer looked cool, but to be honest, I was fucking bored throughout the whole.

I thought the little girl did good. Go ahead. Oh, no. It's just in the, in the, like, I'm not one of those sticklers for, it has to be exactly the way. But for me, that little girl was so unsympathetic. It was hard to like her. And I know, you know, without spoiling it too much, there's something going on. There's something grander going on with her.

But also in the book, she's younger. So I think if she was younger, it might have worked. But if she was like around. 10, 12. This girl was a 14-15. They might have worked if she was younger. But she was just so unsympathetic compared to the book where, you know, you could be a little more charming.

That was my main gripe because I watched it with my wife and my wife's like, I cannot stand this little fucking girl right now. That's too bad. Her character, not her performance. Her performance was fun for the eyes. It was the characters, motivations, and the way she was acting. It just, it was just, it just was a little too much. And I actually love the graphic novel comic miniseries.

I bought him when it came out. The guy that wrote, I believe his name is Joe Kelly. He's a really good writer. And he's got a lot of stuff, you know, hopefully that's coming out. But I just feel so bad for that guy. This could have been, you know, they released it, you know, this time in theater with a little different direction. It could have been really fucking great. Yeah.

Yeah. I actually watched that one too, man. I've heard that. What did you think? What did you think? I thought it was okay. It's not what I expected it to be. Why was Zoe Saldana in this movie? Paycheck? I don't know.

Yeah, that was kind of a small role to give to such a big name character. You know what I mean? Yeah. I thought it was okay. I mean, I didn't go in the direction that I expected it to go. Philip, hold on. Was it a cameo or we should have like a speaking part? Yeah, she was the like the psychiatrist or the school guidance counselor

slash psychiatrist but they, I don't think they make it real definitive what's happening even at the end. No, and that's another thing at the end when you get that reveal if you're like

we saw someone look at that character earlier it should have been the I don't want to give it anyway but it should have been more you know graphic or she should have been in a worse condition. When I saw it, I was like, yes, someone, you know, that doesn't look that bad to be scared, you know, of, unfortunately, we've been in a kind of a similar situation with a nephew ours. And that's why this movie didn't hit too close to home with what was going on because we went through that a few years ago.

So I don't know. I read the book before that came out. So it may be that also had an effect on us. But it could have been better. That's the most frustrating part that I saw the source. source material, it could have been way fucking better and it just kind of sucks. Yeah. I agree. I could

see that. Yeah. I thought it was okay. If you, if you'd never seen the comic book, it's okay. It just, yeah, it seems like it could have been way better. And I think, you know, that's all I got. I wasn't going to have a review on a pie whack it, but I'll have a review on

that one next week. You let us down. All right, well, you got any headlines for us, Brian? All right. we're going to start with some TV news. We talked about Jeremy Solner, doing the green room director doing season three at True Detective. He has left the project. No.

That's sad. And I believe it is due to scheduling. Wow. All right. And so I am leaving the project now. Yeah. Do you schedule? Uh, Hulu was going to do, uh, Joe Hill's Lock and Key, uh, TV series. Uh, they are going to pass on that one. Wow.

Wow. That's the second time it's been passed on, right? They actually filmed a pilot a few years ago. Did they? Yeah. Yeah. It came out on Fox, I believe. And I actually also read that.

I only read the first series. There's a few series of that. And it's different, you know, it's a, it's a very different concept that I'm, I'm not much into, like, the horror comics. But this was actually a pretty. decent, you know, attempt and a new, new spin on it, you know? Pretty cool, huh? Yeah. I'm a bit surprised because Andy Mochetti, the director of It, was going to do the pilot. Oh, wow.

I don't know what happened. I believe they're going to shop the project around to other streaming sites. Oh, man. Hold on. True Detective gets worse, Brian. What happened? Just to show you that there's no original ideas left. get this the next installment tells the story of a macab crime in the heart of the Ozarks sound familiar Netflix watchers I'm tapping out that second season dude Taylor Kitch took me out of it man

I didn't watch the second season at all man it was terrible not even though well only so you did miss anything oh no it just sucks because that second season I I used to work in that, like all those areas where that shit went down. Like, I worked for the railroad and they're near, I knew where there exactly were for one shot of the tracks or Commerce Casino. Because that's all based off real shit. There's a city out here called the City of Commerce and it's in, it's a city, but it's no actual residence in the city. It's a city of commerce.

It's all businesses. And that part was legit what they were talking about. And also there was a big. a scandal in the city of Bell where these, you know, mayor and all these other civil servants or politicians were fucking just taking like these half million dollar annual salaries when there's actually no residents or like there might be six residents in the whole city. So that's the part that kind of sucks like, oh, there's a good story. There's a good nugget there.

But just it was kind of too highfalutin for what I was trying to do, you know? It was just too much. They couldn't, if they were stuck more to the grittier aspect and maybe left the love triangles out of it, it could have been pretty good. Oh, man. Yeah. The first season was great. Yeah.

Yeah. That's it. Okay. We are going to get into our, uh, Lance's favorite section in news more superhero shit. Yeah. Up, up and away. Is live Tyler in a superhero movie yet? Probably.

Oh, God. I love them both. I'd watch them Tyler as a superhero. Yeah. I could do that. She was in the Hulk movie, right? Wasn't she one of the first Hulk movies? Oh, I think she was.

Yeah, she's rumored to be coming back. I don't know. I think in one of the Avenger movies. I don't know. Everybody else is. Why not? That's a weird person to be mad at. I'm not, okay, I don't hate her.

I might have sounded like I hate her. I hate her acting. She's the same. It's like, they don't give her no direction. Just tell her to hear, just read these lines. You're brutal. You're brutal.

Yeah, you're probably not far off, though. I think she's still playing that same mouth from Lord of the Rings. And she just cares that with her everywhere. I bet Stephen Tyler shows up in the Avengers movie. Why not? He looks like a superhero. Yeah, to still be alive? Sure.

In that fucking commercial, that car commercial we did. he looks for like a fucking superhero. Right. Or a villain. He could be a great super villain. I can see that, yeah. Put him in a Guardians movie. Oh, no.

He wears one of his scarves. Do what I with a scar? He wears one of his scarce. I mean, a lot of villains wear scarves. That's his MO right there. He just screams at him. Oh, man. Tell you what, if the Marvel execs are listening to this show,

it's already being written right now. I don't know. maybe if it was DC usually they got a little better track going let's see news on the Captain Marvel movie Clark Greg is going to come back

as Agent Colson and Lee Pace and DeMann Hanjud if I'm saying his name right from the villains from the first Guardians movie are coming back because Captain Marvel is going to be set in the 90s.

Okay. Oh. That's a little bit of a origin story for her. More news that Fox does not know what to do with their properties. That's probably why they're selling.

New Mutants has been pushed again. Okay. Originally to come out, April 13th, was pushed to February 22nd, is now moved to August 2nd, 2019. Wow. Word is they are trying to make it a full horror movie, and there's a little bit of created difference between the director,

which things I'm reading, the movie is good. Okay. It's just not that horror, not scary enough for the studio. And the director feels that the movie is fine the way it is. So it kind of sounds like he might not be back to do these reshoots that they're going to be doing. Wow. They just need to bring Deadpool in, man.

That could be their answer to everything. Yeah, tie them all together. I'd watch it in. Right now, I don't have a lot of high hopes. That trailer was interesting. I've read the comics. There's no horror. I got that from the movie,

but I never got that from the comics. But I was so curious. I said, you know what? Like I said, I try not to be tickler. I'm like, let's just see what any new direction they go in. As long as, you know, they keep some of the core principles. I'm not 100%

you know it has to be as it is it's in the book so but I'm really surprised they move back they moved back the X-Men one

it's just nuts dude weird yeah isn't it yeah X-Men is pushed originally November 2nd

it's going to be February 14th next year Disney doesn't actually owns that shit right not officially

they said the deal was going to take up to a year to finalize somebody take that shit away from them, man. Yeah, Art, I was reading the new mutants back in the day, dude.

That's when I was, when those first issues came out of that is when I was really into comics. And those, and back then, they were like groundbreaking different from everything else I was going on. So that's how I was really, when they heard they were making a movie, I was like, wow, this is going to be awesome because this is a total different take on the X universe. You know, these are, you know, kids doing their own thing. But, of course Fox is going to fuck it up. I mean, Foxes has a worse track record than DC almost. Yeah, who was that really... Who was that really bizarre artist that did a lot of their stuff?

Was it Bill Sankovics? Was that his name? I know that. I think that's, yeah, it's like a... Sick witch. It's a Polish last name. I can't pronounce it very well, but I know you're talking about. Yeah, really weird artwork, man.

Yeah, it was cool, though, yeah. Yeah, very cool. But anyway, the movie, huh? When is New Mutants coming out? then, Brian? August 2nd, next year. Next year? Next year.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. They got time to come out with 18 more trailers for it. Yeah. Transitioning to other movie news, Josh Boone, who is directing new munes, is also developing Stephen King's to Stan into a 10-hour limited series.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Where is that, do they, do they know where it's going? Is it Netflix or is it? CBS. Possibly CBS, all access. All access. Yeah.

Okay. That's cool. All right. You're trying to be a player. And the Stan, even the shitty TV movies freaked me out when I was a kid, man. Remember, what was that, a three-part series or, you know, three-night? With Molly Ringwald in it? Yeah.

I was young back then. Jamie Sheridan. Yeah, but it freaked me. me out back then. And, you know, obviously back in hindsight, it's not that good, but it's a good property,

good ideas, hopefully it's executed right. That's all. Yeah, I would agree. And to finish the news off, one more Stephen King project, is the Tommy Knockers

is getting redone by James Wan. Hmm. Not my favorite of his books, but, uh, one. James Juan. Can't be bad.

Yeah. James, James, one is also for Tommy Knox is teaming up with it producer Roy Lee so they're doing the Tommy Knockers movie together. They had

Balke from Perfect Strangers in it right? I think he was in the TV movie. Was he? I know Stephen King was famous for saying that he was on so much cocaine when he was writing that book that he wouldn't know from one day to the next what he

had written before. He was kind of making it up as he went along. That's in words. Makes sense why it's so fucking crazy. How much of his work do you think was done on cocaine? That's a good point because we've talked about that like three different times

now. Wasn't there a fair amount? Isn't there a story that he threw carry away and his wife kind of salvaged it from the trash can? He was just going to just, you know, get rid of it. Yes. Something like that. Yeah.

Yeah. I heard that. Yeah. He hated did carry. He wasn't going to put it out. And his wife convinced him to do it. Wow. Man, that's, uh, wow. And as they say, the rest is history. Yeah, big time. Every once in a while I got to listen to her. Yeah. Oh. Wow. And on that note, that is all the news.

All right. Cool. So, uh, Art, you ready? Yes, sir. Where are we going? I think we're going to the trailer park. Trailer park? That's where the last Starfighter is. Oh. Hey, wait a minute. It's in a trailer park.

It is where the stacks are, too. What's the first trailer, Brian? First one we're going to talk about is the house with a clock in its walls or on its walls. A.K.A. Goose bumps too, huh? Oh, you just took the words right out of my mouth. This is starring Kate Blanchett, Jack Black, Kyle McLaughlin, Lorenza Izzo, and directed by Eli Roth. No, it's not. Yes.

Fuck you. Is it really? Eli Roth. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That's the man. Kate Blanchett. You got to be kidding me. How did he get this movie?

I don't know. How did he get Death Wish? Oh, wow. well, I'm out. Does anybody see Death Wish? Was it any good? I've seen it. It was fine for what it was.

It does not need to be a Death Wish remake at all. It needs to be something else, but the actual movie was okay. Bruce Willis, half the movie he phoned it in, so typical of what he's been doing lately. But I didn't hate it. I love it Kate Blanchett doing this one for a paycheck You know Jack Black's always down Yeah man

Lance took the words right on my mouth Because before I knew this was gonna be the trailer I played for my son And I thought it was just another one of those Goosebump titles like oh You know it looked just like a You know it has Jack Black in it And it's got that kind of same stick

You know kind of trying to be You know A little more like you know Lankin on his name, but like those I don't know, those horror goth movies and somewhere in between, you know?

Sure, sure. What did your son think of it? Because my daughter's all into this movie. Oh, no, he liked it. It comes around, when does it come about Halloween, around that time? September 21st. Yeah, so he was down. He's like, oh, September 21st, but that, you know, he thought

it was a goosebumps sequel, but he was actually into it, man. He's getting to that age when he's reading a lot of stuff now he's dying so he's actually reading a lot of stuff so he might pick up the book and actually i don't know if it's based off a book or not but if it's it is or something similar he might check it out yeah so he would definitely probably get the book and uh and read it and tell me what's wrong with it and why it's not like the book and stuff like that totally breaking down yeah yeah nine that's pretty awesome yeah well he did that with a movie we're going to talk later about but uh yeah all right well brian brian we are going to be doing a

double bill with this one and Medea Boo 3. Oh, damn it, man. See, and that's why I was getting that. I picked this trailer review because he's not kidding. I hope he's kidding. Jesus Christ. I think we owe it to the kids. We told the kids they was going to come on.

I figured we might throw this one on the schedule. Yeah. And damn it, Lance, if they fucking make another fucking move. well you know they're going to it's not like the last one didn't make any money did it my theater was packed Lance I've never

I've never said no to anything you've put out there but I'm not doing that not doing it not going under for this one huh no what made it so bad is we didn't even review it we didn't even review it at all

I sat there for no yeah we were supposed to do it a kid's Halloween episode so I sat in the fucking theater for that shit and we didn't even review it It was all just a prank, I never watched it Oh boy All right

That movie comes out September 21st And we're going to move on to our last trailer Which is Cargo starring Martin Freeman, Anthony Hayes, and Susie Porter directed by Ben Howling and Yolanda Ramke Another zombie movie

what did you guys think? Are they zombies? I'm gonna go with zombies. It's some zombie infection movie, right? That's what it looked like to me. It looks, you know, like a small, I don't know. I mean, the story is all right. It kind of reminds, even though it's not the same,

it kind of reminds me of Maggie with, you know, the Arnold zombie movie. A little. Yeah. Yeah, so that's when I saw that, I kind of thought that. And it looks like a smaller story. I don't know if it's worth going to the movie theater or not for me.

But, I mean, I'll check it out when I can, but it's not like a must-see for me. Yeah, I get it. I'm intrigued. I liked it. I like anything Martin Freeman's in. Yeah, definitely. You know, it said it was the same studio that did Bobaduke, and that was a pretty good movie, I thought. Right, right.

So I'll give it a try. I mean, how bad can it be with Martin Freeman in it, right? That's true. Yeah, definitely interesting. I don't know how much it stands out. but it's it's it looks slightly different than most zombie movies and I think they're going to take a very real take on it and it looks like it's going to be all mart and Freeman doing the heaven left on this

because it looks like he's going to be everything he's in like never seen right castaway style yeah and I don't think it's getting a theater release I think it's going to be VOD and I think the release date is May 17th oh okay and that doesn't make me more excited but I'll definitely watch it of it's VODB. Yeah. Yeah, that is all the trailers we have. Only two.

Checked out some other ones, and they're fucking horrible, so I didn't even... Trying to watch what I pick after two, Jennifer, so... Oh, okay, well... I thought that was gonna break up the gang

right here when I heard that show. Oh, God. I wasn't mad at Brian, but it was fun. Gniz was on that show, right? Yeah, I was mad at myself I felt like I let you guys down I could just seem poor disappointed Brian there

Just with his head down over his microphone I was like oh gosh, he's giving it to this guy hard You know, I knew it like 10 minutes into the movie I chose wrong Yeah Well, it makes sense But yeah If even if Kev doesn't like a movie

Then it's really bad Oh yeah Mr. Mr. 10 on 10 hell of good Yeah, that's right Yeah, but all right, well, I mean, not every movie can be a masterpiece, you know? That one wasn't. Got a slog for ship to appreciate the good stuff, right? Absolutely.

There you go. So, all right, Philip, I know we got to have a little bit of list or feedback, right? Patrick Clearer says, I think my biggest issue with this remake is we can't have Fred Gwynn reprise his role. Oh, I guess that's true. Yeah. Uh, the devil's rejects is, uh, still way out ahead in our favorite zombie movie poll. Not zombie, zombie, Rob Zombie. Mm.

Uh, Stephen Loblad says Halloween was really good, though. I know a lot of people are not on board with that, but I like it, too. Um, Eric, uh, Bileanax says, I enjoyed Halloween two more than one. Uh, the Lords of Salem was garbage. House of a Thousand Corpses showed a lot of promise, but didn't quite nail it. The Devil's Rejects was his best film by 10 miles. Although I'm not happy to hear three from hell changes the ending, or at least what the viewer has led to believe the ending is.

Oh, boy. That guy, I don't know, I want to take his opinion too serious myself. Yeah, all right, well, you heard it here. Eddie Ramirez says none of the above. Man, people are not big Rob Zombie fans. Patrick Beck saying he does have a movie that doesn't star Sherry Moon? If I'd say that one. Wow.

Good luck on that one. And it's so weird, right, when Rob Zombie, when I remember, you know, when he first got the gig for Halloween, how, you know, before everything and before anything, It was just, there was so much optimistic, everyone's, you know, so positive about it. And then to see where we are when that came out and now it's like, wow. Because, you know, everyone knew he was a true fan of horror and everything like that. And now it just to see that, not that his opinions at all time, you know, or his respect level or whatever is at an all time level. But it just, right.

The contradiction from where we started, you know, so positive until now, it was like, ah, whatever, you know, we'll see it when we see it or whatever. Anything nice to say at all. not as bad as he not as bad as he lie rough though man there you know that's true that's true see yeah and I remember him being really high on his horse after a house of a thousand corpses and and and the devil's rejects you know because it was like whoa where did this guy come from

so I'm a fan let's see god damn it fucking bead is that his name Every single time. Bejerman. I'm sorry, dude. Every single time I see your name, I fuck it up.

Get you every time, mate. He says, hey everyone, after taking a few months hiatus due to both working and other stuff happening in my life, my long-awaited seventh edition of Horror Down Under column is now online at the screencast.com. in this one I reviewed the almost 1987 giant killer crocodile film Dark Age

the almost lost 1987 giant killer crocodile film check it out Dark Age I've never seen it Never heard it It's totally lost on me Now Brian you've seen everything I've seen that but it's been a while

Yeah all the Yeah crocodile movies are all the same fucking movie So is it an Australian film? I do not remember. To the best of your recollection? No. It's a crocodile nine under.

But check it out at the screamcast.com. Please, ladies and gentlemen. All right. Yeah, B's a pretty cool guy. I haven't interacted with him a lot, but he's a very positive, cool guy. And he seems like, you know, he'd be an awesome guy.

And I've read some of his stuff. So go check it out, man. It's really worth it. it. We gotta get in on the show, so I stop fucking have the name. It's just the damn time difference. That'll be hard for you guys. Oh, I know. That's a problem we kept it happen with Marcy. All right.

We're all like drunk at night and she's like, I just woke up. She's hung over. She's hung over. All right. So, Samantha Bean created a poll. Check that out. Miss, I don't like horror. I scroll down to get some personal reviews on these flicks But I figured I would just ask here Jim and I are wanting to go to the theater this weekend Which they probably already go

But what should we spend money on to see Any input is most appreciated The options are death wish Unsane Or the strangers I'll go with insane Yeah I'll go with Uncane I have to agree with that

yeah me too well there's our vote even though you've probably already seen it listeners go to that poll posted March 24th and help a fellow listener out with some advice let's see regarding Santa Clarita diet yeah

Katie Dylan says we are watching it now it's a fucking fun show man yeah they what is there Drew Barrymore Timothy all the fun they make that show because I think they're a whole relationship 100%

I like the daughter, too. Yeah, she's not bad. Like, if she was on her own, she'd annoy the shit out of me. But with those two, she works well. Yeah, she's probably, I think she's going to be a pretty big actress here pretty soon. I get the feeling. She's kind of got that, she's that quirky, quirky type of character, you know? Yeah, very sarcastic.

Yeah, just a little bit. So that's it for our listener feedback. We love to hear from you guys. Thanks to everybody who reaches out to us. As always, you can reach us at our Facebook or Podbean page, or you can email us directly at the horror returns at gmail.com. Or check us out on Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr, Facebook group page.

Go check that guy out. And please, please, please, please, please, please leave us a review on iTunes. Preferably five stars. We will bribe you if necessary. Yeah. Can I say something really, can I say something really quick? You go ahead, Brian. Okay.

I just want to clear the air about our March Madness episode. I'm getting a lot of, this one. I'm getting a lot of messages and comments. It was not fixed. Yeah, whatever one. We did not choose that. Yeah. We chose, we didn't, we invited people to come on.

They picked the, they picked the entries. and we just hosted a lot of people yeah I've heard the word fixed quite a bit rigged I was not happy about that I don't get that one

I was not either because evil dead too is way better I think too much respect was given to the pride of Frankenstein man I think it was just people you know we just put it on a pedestal and and because every time

like towards I think the final three votes it was up against they were just say well this one changed the landscape yeah you know what we all appreciate for what it did for cinema but it is not the best horror movie you know

aliens got knocked out did that knock out aliens when they went ahead it did knock out aliens I was like oh get out here I expected evil dead two versus aliens in the final and that's not what happened it was starting to look that way was you're talking about a dark horse

huh right Steve Steve from the League of Geeks on their previous episode again voiced his displeasure the outcome. Shit happens, man. It won fair and square dude. Yeah.

That's where you play the game. I just wanted to throw that out there. We did not set that up for it because if it was me in the March Madness episode, that wasn't even a thought to even put it in the bracket. Oh, right. Well,

it was in there. It definitely would have won. Any given Sunday, boys. Even the Cubbies You gotta win a World Series every once in a while, right? That's right, even the Red Sox, man. Yeah. All right, so that's the end of our listener feedback. We love to hear from everybody.

Are you all ready to roll out another contest? I'm just about ready to get those t-shirts and coozy started on. Sure. All right, so here we go, just like we did last time. official rules, nothing to it. Just leave us an iTunes review what can be easier. You can just go in there and say how you feel.

And refer a friend. Yeah, that would be good. We'd love it if you'd give us the maximum number of stars, but, you know, be honest, you know, to give us some critical feedback if you feel like we deserve it. And you'll get your choice of either a Horror Returns T-shirt

of your size or a Horror Returns Kuzi and probably run it about six weeks. We'll probably run the contest up until we go to Texas Frightmare, which is the weekend of, what, 5th, 6th, and 7th of May. So you got until about then to go ahead and get your iTunes reviews in. And yeah, if you can refer some new listeners and tell us who you referred and have them let us know that you told us about the show, you know, we can consider that as well.

But we'll... But ignore that being an honest thing. We definitely want five stars. All right, fair enough. We're our PR guy, Philip. So give us the real spiel now. Or I will come find you. Not really.

Oh, boy. All right. That's pretty serious. That's the contest. That's the contest. You guys in? Yep. All right.

Sounds like a plan. Until we run out of T-shirts. Yeah, till we run out. And then maybe we'll print some more. We'll see how it goes. Roger All right So and by the way

If you've written one before And you want to do a new You want to do a new one Go for it I think you have to go in And create a new user ID Or get a family member To do it or something like that

But let's say you got a T-shirt And you want a coozy to go with it You know Hey something to think about You ain't cheating You ain't trying Yeah That's my model

All right So you guys are ready We can move on to our featured attractions What do you say Player 1 and also the Last Starfighter. So we get a little trivia, as we always do, The Last Starfighter directed by Nick Castle,

also known for Tag the Assassination Game and The Boy Who Could Fly. Writer Jonathan Betuel, also known for the short-lived TV show Freddy's Nightmares, and the really weird movie Theodore Rex with Whoopi Goldberg. Anybody's seen that one? What?

I remember that cut. cover that VHS cover. I don't remember that at all. That name was very familiar. I think I blocked it from my memory. Probably. Show us on this Muppet dinosaur where you were touched, right, Philip?

Right. It was whoopey. She did it. Oh, no. The creators used all visual effects, except, of course, makeup and explosions on a computer. So this was like one of the first

computer animated films. Or you can tell when it was on a computer. Did it look like Tron or something like that, the video game Tron or Pac-Man or something? It's close. All shots of spacecraft

and space were generated on a KrayXMP computer. The star car, to tie in a little bit to our next movie here, was based on a DeLorean. including its gold winged doors and its stainless steel construction. Now, here's the part that makes me a little sad that I did not rewatch this movie, so I'm not going to be talking about it tonight.

But in addition to the major Star Trek universe roles later played by Starfighter cast, Will Wheaton and Mark Alamo, several others in the movie's cast, guest started various Star Trek franchises. They include Dan Mason, Barbara Bossan, Norman Snow, and Gerald. Jeffrey Blake. But notable among them is Meg Wiley, who played one of the Tillosian keepers in the original Star Trek pilot

The Cage. Whoa. That's going pretty far back. Check that out. I did see this movie, Art, as you graciously pointed out, because of my fucking advanced age, you asshole. I did see it on opening day, you

cock sucker. I said, did the math. We're just happy your memory's still around, fan. I was actually a fucking teenager already when this came. out so fuck. But the last Starfighter haven't, have not seen it since then.

So I'm out. Art, you're our guest. Well, yeah, this is, you know, I was two when this movie came out, but I am aware of movies of, you know, this genre of the 80s and the way the movies were made. I try to watch

this with my son and he was not having this. He looked at me and just fucking walked out the room. And he's like, No dad. I ain't watching this shit and he just laughed. He didn't say that, but the look, the look he said, you know, the out of all I needed. But me, for the people that weren't born in that time that weren't used these movies, you know, it's hard for them to accept or buy in to this. But, you know, I grew up watching like E.T, the Flight of Navigator, you know, all crazy movies like this.

So I was used to it. And, you know, it's, you know, do you have to take on the limitations of movie making both in story and then production Valley. And it was all right, man. It wasn't as bad as I thought. The story was a little thin. Some parts didn't make sense. But I think this movie would have been benefited a little more. Like I said earlier with I Kill Giants. It's just the lead actor. Alex was just a little younger. Because, I mean, he's like 25. He's playing a teenager or whatever. But it was just a little younger and a little more vulnerable. I think it went a long way. You know, the concept's cool. but I mean, cooler of his

little better video game you know, but some of the, I think his name was Centauri, the guy that drafted him for the Great Galactic War. Yeah. I think he was a little over the top. And there's like, yeah, my boy.

Yeah, but if he, they try to give you a little emotional pool there with him and it was just not there because, you know, you didn't develop any sort of relationship. It felt like an Obi-1, Canobey, Luke Skywalker, relationship they're trying to push for it but it just wasn't there you know what i mean but uh all

no i it wasn't too bad man i you know i like i said i grew up watching movies like this so i could buy in and at least appreciate it for what it was uh yeah man i i i'm kind of agreeing with uh about everything that you said actually flat of the navigator is what i thought i was about to watch yeah and then i was like oh i remember this movie um it's okay, man. It's super fucking cheesy. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. I mean, I

think that they at least did a pretty good job with the cheese. It's very dated. The special effects are like they go from live action to palm, basically. Yeah.

And every time they show a scene of space or something, it looks like that. So I mean, you got to kind of be ready for that stuff. Centauri was definitely over the talk. That guy was a traveling salesman, if I have ever seen one of my life. It's like Barnum Bailey.

Right. The greatest showman, huh? Yeah, I think we crossed over movies. Man, he overacted the shit out of that. Jim Carrey ain't got nothing on this guy. But, and it did make me move a little slow. I think I wanted to like this more than I actually did. There are some charm there.

Yeah, there was some charm. It just didn't. You know, would I go back and see this anytime soon? No. I mean, the coolest thing is they lived in the coolest trailer park ever. Everyone was super nice. No one's doing math. I mean, it's pretty cool, you know.

Like, everyone knows everyone's business. Everyone's like, no, that's not how the trailer parks are, bro. Not the ones I've been to. You know they were all doing that, too. Yeah. Because when he. He broke the, when he broke the record. Hey, everyone, come over.

Alex's going to break the record. I'm like, get out of here, dude. On the random one little arcade machine that they have. And the black dude just gets up. The old man, who I guarantee you, gives not a shit about that arcade game, comes up and tells everybody, hey, Alex is going to break the record. To which everybody's reply should have been, the record on what? it's like it's like in them small towns when everybody goes to to the high school games and they follow it that that's their high school football game right there what watch everybody play a video game yes i'm not buying that one

because they all come down cheering and like they all already have signs written up and shit you know holding them above is it like it's a fucking wrestling match um yeah it was it was definitely it definitely had some cheese but but it was still a little bit endearing, man. I kind of enjoyed it. Not as much as I wanted to. I'm definitely not going to go back and watch it anytime soon, but I'm not mad that I watched it. Yeah, same here. That's a great point.

Yeah, I'm not mad. It wasn't a waste of time. Now you could say you've seen it and, you know, would help you out? He's got some nostalgia, that's for sure. Yeah, exactly, yeah. I'm a little biased. When I was watching this as a kid,

I fucking love this movie. So that's probably why I own it. But there are stuff that doesn't hold up that I know. You know, this is classic 80s sci-fi where you got guys in the back with the twisted knobs and punching blinking lights and they were really not doing anything. And then the villains are a little. Oh, my God. Okay.

I was going to say they've got the worst villain ever. I want to bring something up. The guy, what is his name? Shit, I wrote it down. Emperor Zorg. No, Lord Krill. Oh. What is the use of his red lens?

Because I... Is that the turtle guy? I don't... No, no, no, no, no. The guy's son? No, no, no. Oh, the bad guy? I got you.

Yeah, he had the little red lens that flipped back and forth. Put it only on one eye. Like, he was randomly talking to people? Yeah, rewatching. I tried to follow. Maybe there were specific reasons why it would happen, but there would be something, there would be a scene where he's reading something where he doesn't have it, and then someone will walk up to him, talking to him, and then it'll flip him over his eye.

I haven't, I've been trying to figure out what is the purpose of that lens. Maybe he has a lazy eye. It's a corrective lens. But it is cheesy, but there's a lot of things I still like. I like the whole aspect of the, you know, finding somebody to be a starfighter with video game training them. You know, it's basically the basis of Future Man, the Hulu show. Yeah, yeah.

Which they bring up in the Hulu show. I haven't watched it yet. I think I read that Seth Rogen was writing a remake two star fighter, which turned into Future Man. Oh. But, yeah, Art, I agree with you, the main actor. He could have been younger. But again, this was at a time when there was just so many.

older people playing these young roles, especially like in, you know, high school movies, when you could tell these high schools were not nowhere near that age. Yeah. Yeah, you're Luke Perry's, you know, they're still in high school. Yeah. Alden. John Volta. And this guy's haircut made me decide that I probably need a haircut.

It's a little long. You know what? I'm a sucker for it. Well, two things I really did like about the movie. One, one, not so much. I'm a sucker for how you'd like me now moments where, you know, he came back at the end of the movie with a spaceship and, you know, to prove, even though they had that one fucking guy like, oh, sure, you got aliens.

I'm like, you know, he didn't believe him. Like, dude, I just came in a fucking spaceship and you don't think I have, you know, an alien or whatever on the board. But that one, that scene went a little too long. But you know what I did really like the, that he actually left Earth. you know most movies like that they'll stay for fucking because you know the kid his brother or his mom but you know for really you know he said fuck it i'm out what am i going to do here on earth so i actually do like that he just took off it was cool adventure yeah for real i mean

he he has the technology to come back whenever so it's not a big deal but sometimes movies like this they try to tug your heartstrings and no i'm going to stay here my brother or i'm going to see here with my mom he was like fuck them fuck this place i'm out Again, again, the most accepting, again, the most accepting people ever. She went with him, right? She went with him eventually, but at first he was like, come with me. And she was like, no. And he's like, all right, later.

Peace. What about Granny? What about Granny? What about Granny? Granny told her to go. I got a spaceship, girl. Let's go. This motherfucker came down here with an alien and a spaceship.

You better get to fuck out. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, a very weird crowd in that trailer park. But I did like the asshole guy. They got his truck stolen and blown up. Yeah, yeah. If you pay, if you, well, you guys will probably never rewatch it again. But if you ever do, just pay attention to him as the spaceships that he could not give a shit.

He is not impressed at all. My truck still fucked up. Because that motherfucker stole his truck. He wasn't even really that much of an asshole. I mean, he was a douchebag. He was, yeah, he was a douchevac. It was his truck. Yeah.

He was just trying to have a good time. And he was looking at his buddies. There's no real bad guys in this movie except that balding idiot alien who threw temper tantrums. Yeah. Yeah, that, that's, it was very black and white about, you know, the good, there's good and there's bad, you know. It's just a simple story. You could tell it's easily aimed for kids of that age, you know, now, like, you know, we got fucking all these crazy comic movies. that Brian loves.

But yeah, you know, like I said, it was hard for, hard for my son to, he saw it. Look, I mean,

I don't go play video games, Dad. I'm like, all right, man, see you later. Pretty, a lot,

a lot for him to swallow, huh, with the night to be more graphics. I'm going to be, my own last Starfighter, man, I'm out here.

My wife wouldn't even watch it. Glass, what did, what did you think of the movie when you've seen it? Originally. The best I remember, I thought it was pretty

cool, you know, in 1984. You got to put everything in perspective, man, you know? I mean, we didn't have too much to compare it to back then. That's true, yeah. You know, plus I was, you know, quite a bit younger. I don't know

if it would be as exciting now. I would have definitely watched the movie, but shit, I couldn't find it for free anywhere and I was damned if I was going to pay to rent it. I had to rent it twice. I had to rent it twice. You had to rent it twice?

Yeah, Amazon gives you 30 days to watch it, but if you start it, they only give you 24 hours to finish it. Are you serious? Oh, wow. Yep. Oh, man. So what happened? Oh, I just, I started it and fell asleep and fucking forgot about it. Oh, no.

But you ended up okay? Oh, yeah. I watched it. I mean, still, in the scheme of thing, five bucks is not too bad. Scores? Yeah, art. I would give this like a 6.5, man. I want to give it a 7, but it's like hard to warn the 7.

It's like it's a 6.5, but it's not as bad as it sounds, but it is very dated. 6.5's pretty good, man. Yeah, it's pretty dated. It'd be hard for anyone fucking past the age. You know, if you're 17 and under, 18 and under, it'd be really hard for you to buy into this. If you're a little older than that, you know, you might be a little more mature, but I mean, I wouldn't recommend. I can't think of a single person I'd recommend, hey, man, I got the perfect movie for you. So, you know, you happen to come on it.

It's not late at night, you know. Right. It's not the worst. Doesn't sound like I miss too much. No. Yeah. I'm not far off of you. I'm going to give it a six.

I liked it better than I didn't like it. But, yeah, definitely very dated and there's not really a reason to watch it. I mean, it's a cool movie to watch once at some point because it is sort of a classic. But it's probably not going to watch it any time again in the near future. Right. I mean, you're not going to show it to the kids? No, they're not going to give a shit at all. I think he likes his kids.

He doesn't want to punish him. Is it that bad art? You said six and a half, dude. No, for my kid, like, there's not enough razzled out. I mean, now the kids are used to so much more. This would be punishment. Yeah. True.

I'm going to go with a seven. It's cheesy, but it's cheesy goodness. And I can still rewatch it and have fun with it. Yeah, I respect it. You grew up with it. So, like, me, this is my first time. But, you know, I have plenty of movies in my past that are cheesy, but, you know, they have a special place in my heart.

So I can respect that, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of movies. from that time that I love, but I definitely would find it hard to recommend to other people because I just don't think

they would get it. Kind of like when we did enemy mine a little bit. Yeah, see, now, I love enemy mine. Yeah, I do too. I try, my wife, I try to watch it with my wife and she was fucking bored out of her mind. But, you know,

it's just because she had never seen it before, so. Sure. Didn't care a bit, huh? No. She watches Medea movies, so what is she now? So we've got a, what do we get a six, six to a half and a seven? Yep. All right, you guys are recommending it.

Somewhat. It's like a quality, there's like pre-qualifiers to recommend this, you know? Like the right, you know, like I said, yeah, there's me some certain criteria. You got to be like over 30. Yeah, I had to play video games around this time. things of that nature. There's some pre-qualifiers there. But yeah, it's not horrible.

You got to be a big fan of Pong, huh? Yeah. You guys ready to move on to something a little bit more modern? Yes, I am. I'm really ready, yeah. Player 1. All right, Ready Player 1 was directed by Stephen Spielberg, also known for, you know, well,

but if you're listening to this show, you probably already know, right? probably name a half dozen right off the top of your head, if not a dozen movies that this guy's done. Is that the guy who I should know who he is? Yeah, War Horse and The Post. Did The Post this year. Oh, yeah. Oh. Yeah, that's the guy.

I've never seen any of his movies. Yeah, well, Post was not that great a movie. I didn't think. What did you guys think? I haven't seen it. No, I haven't seen it. All right, well, that says a lot. Okay, writers Ernest Klein

from his novel, along with Zach Penn, and Zach Penn is also known for screenplays for The Avengers, and several of the, everything goes full circle on this show, X-Man movies. Oh, there you go.

Now get this, Art, you're going to find this interesting. Christopher Nolan, Robert Zemeckis, Matthew Vaughn, Peter Jackson, and Edgar Wright, were all considered in the consideration to direct this film.

Wow. That's interesting, man. Those are all huge names. It's a killer. It's a killer's row, right? Yeah. Well, look who they ended up with. Fucking Spielberg.

No kidding. He just went up to his own gize. I got this. Yeah. Who's going to argue with him? Yep. He said, the movie is based on me, so I'll do the movie. Yep.

A lot of it is. A lot of the book is. some controversy surrounded the film when Ty Sheridan was cast due to the fact that casting website cast at talent had advertised the film was looking for an unknown. Several people sent in their audition videos in hopes of being cast as the casting call said unknown talent. When news of Mudd's casting, that is the kid from Mudd, right? Yes. broke less than a day after the casting campaign of cast at talent, but had ended, by the way. The reaction of people who auditioned ranged from understanding that they likely wouldn't be picked anyway to outraged by the fact they had been lied to.

You know what? Even though he's done movies like X-Men, I think he's still unknown. Zombie Apollicago, man. It's just, you know, Ty Sheraton kind of, I don't think anybody really knows his name. He has that visor on in the X-Men movie, so it's like he's not 100% recognizable in public, you know? Yeah. He's one of those people where I was like, I've seen that guy before. I know he's in something, but I couldn't tell you what it was.

I know this kid. Spielberg stated that Ready Player 1 is the most difficult film he has done since saving Private Ryan. Wow. I wonder why that is. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, wow. It's going to be hard to talk about. this and without spoilers because we definitely don't want to. I mean, there were a lot of things that

happened that I even read the book and I wasn't expecting. So, you know, I guess we need to tread lightly before we get into spoilers. Think about this, man. What's that? Sorry. That wasn't me. No, that was. That was my dog, poking out. Yeah, sorry, guys. You can probably hear all the wind in the background too. Man, it is windy as shit down here. Yeah. Sounds pretty nice. Anyway, my bad. It's all good.

Art, you want to go first on this one? Yeah, man. Just a little to preface this a little, I did the audiobook myself a few years ago, three, maybe more years ago. Oh, okay, so you've already done the whole book thing. I did the book. Unfortunately, it was narrated by Will Wheaton, who was very annoying, but

to give credit to the book, I was able to power through because the story was compelling to me. Sure. And I always held on to it. I really liked it. I never thought, you know, when the news was about this was being a movie and then not only that it was going to be made into me that Stephen Spielberg was going to redirect it, there was a lot of, you know, I was very heavily anticipating it.

And somewhere along the way a few months ago, there's a guy from the binge Facebook group named Johnny Mendoza. And he said that he's going to have his daughter read the book. I'm like, well, I had a copy of that book from my. a loot crate when I used to subscribe to Luke crate I had a copy of Ready Player 1 so I actually gave it to my son and he got halfway through you know he's 9

so it was a little more for me he got three quarters of the way done and he liked it it just you know some of it's still a little hard for him to break it down and stuff like that but he was telling him about you know stuff that I forgot about with Parsville and this no he says and asking me what was

going on and I was like wow so right there that this was earlier this year this was easily the most anticipated movie he was looking forward to besides maybe Avengers and I was looking forward to so that being said you know we got pumped up we saw it uh Saturday morning we couldn't see it Friday night I saw it Saturday morning and me my son I have I have two boys and one's four and my wife and my my nine-year-old sitting next to me and we're just throughout the whole movie just geeking out he was talking you know tell me hey do you see this guy do you see that because

there's a lot of characters in this book this movie was fucking a really fantastic fun ride for me, man. This is the most fun interaction my son's had in a movie which made me feel that much happier. I couldn't help at some point. I'm fucking literally grinning, just noticing my cheeks are hurting because I just have a smile on my face.

I have a lot of parts of this movie. Two-thirds of this movie were fucking excellent, just awesome. And the third act for me falls off a little, It's a little sappy, a little heavy on the score. You can start feeling the Spielberg, you know, his method of movies. I mean, it really felt heavy on a lot of that, you know, what Spielberg is known for. A lot of oversappiness at some points. But two-thirds of this.

Yeah, yeah, happy ending, you know, the teenagers prevail, which, you know, that's in the book. There's no big problem. But two-thirds of this movie and some stuff that we'll get into later, I guess. that I was not expecting also. And, you know, this movie, there's a lot of crossover characters from so many different franchises. Unfortunately, copyrights being what they were, they couldn't get them. But the ones they used instead to make up for them were awesome.

And, man, I think this is the funnest time. I'm not saying it's the best movie, but this is the funnest time I've had a movie in a very, very long time. And it's a great movie. I loved it. Yeah, I agree with you. I can't say it's the best movie. but it was a hell of a lot of fun and it was just Easter egg after Easter egg after

Easter egg after Easter egg in this movie and I really enjoyed the characters and them trying to you know figure out these clues and I you know I felt in you know invested trying to you know I didn't read the book so this was all new to me so maybe maybe that had something to do with it but I just thought it was a fun ride and I wish I wish Simon Pegg's in, I love Simon Pegg, but I wish he had something more to do in this movie. I understand the character he's playing, but maybe he could have played something else. There's just a couple characters, or a couple of actors in this movie. I just kind of thought were wasted.

They were just there. Yeah. So, but overall, I thought it was just a lot of fun, and I can't wait to get the spoilers. Yeah, you think there was a lot going on to this movie, brother. Wait till we see The Avengers. Well, we've at least had, you know, some rise up from all of those different people. Yeah. I am kind of right on par with you guys, man.

I took my, so my kids are, I have a seven-year-old boy, and my little girl just turned five, like last week. All right, cool. Awesome. She was a little bit bored, but my seven-year-old is kind of a video game. nerd already. So he was loving it. He had a great time. I had a great time too, man.

I thought this movie was super fun. It's not, you know, the most heart-wrenching movie or you know, they're not giving you big symbolism or any of that. But, I mean,

if you're going to go on like summer blockbuster style stuff, dude, this was a lot of fun. and it was like hitting you in the face with a baseball bat of nostalgia. And they had like just a little bit of everything from all the way up from like 70s to 90s. So if you grew up at all, then you can probably relate at some point to this movie. Oh man, that's got to go on the cover art right there, man. Yeah.

Because you're right, it had video game references, it had movie references, it had pop-corps, it had pop culture references, it had music references. So it had something for everyone, and you know, and you don't have to be, you know, we said about Last Starfighter, all these pre-qualifiers, like, you could be a living person that has a television or has access to the internet, and you will notice things in this, in this show, or I'm sorry, in this movie, and that's what it just made it so freaking fun. And there was a lot, I know there's some criticism because of over nostalgia. Like, if there's anyone that could do it, it's Steven Spielberg.

Right. And the thing is they didn't really focus on too much because there's so many, you know, nostalgic or pop culture references. They're just everywhere. Nothing's really heavily focused on. It's just maybe someone's walking by. Maybe it's the car that drove by or it. To me, it was just that part was so awesome. It was obviously way more substance or style than substance.

But this is one of the few times where that really, really helped out the movie. And like I said, it was so for me, for us, it was like I'm telling you, man, it was just. crazy. My son never really, we don't talk too much in the movies, but he's like, you know, hey, he was asking me this. And then at the end of the movie, he asked me if I liked it, which never happens. And I was like, wow. And I'm like, how about he's like, yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing it again. And, you know, I can't wait until we see it again and just catch it, you know, all the little Easter eggs characters. You know, we've seen a few YouTube videos. I didn't see that guy or he saw one guy and I didn't see another guy. So now we're just, you know, can't wait to see it again.

and that's kind of crazy for us to actually, you know, besides a Pixar movie or Disney animated movie to actually he wants to see it again. See, and that's the part that I kind of liked about it, because the whole movie was based on, you know, they have to find this Easter egg, which is in the preview, so no spoilers or anything. So they have to find this Easter egg to take over the game and basically rule the world. but in a game that's about a bunch of Easter eggs they have so many Easter eggs in it

I feel like if you are trying to get everything from this movie you're going to need to see it probably 10 or 15 times and I can only imagine that's what Spielberg is going for because he didn't go real heavy on the story this time which you know he can do but he didn't and I think he kept it very light and fun.

And that's what it was, you know? I mean, is it the greatest movie that he's ever made? God no. I mean, you're talking about one of the greatest directors of all time. But in his fashion, it was a hell of a fun movie to watch, man. I definitely wasn't disappointed. the only people that I see that are disappointed are the people who like really really love the book and they're just mad because this wasn't just like the book.

Yeah, like a page for page remake basically. Right. Which, and I haven't read the book just to throw that out there. I haven't, I didn't even, I didn't even really know this was a book until it came out. Yeah, it was a pretty big hit, man. It's, uh, well, shit, ladies and gentlemen, I hate to say this, but we've got. I think we got our very first ever. You're here for some history, art. It's our very first ever horror returns geek circle jerk.

Because I think all four of us fucking love this movie. And everything you guys said is absolutely right. We'll address in more detail later the differences between the books or the movies. But I think the main, I think all the arguments that the readers that don't like the movie or think on this first viewing, they don't like the movie. because it's not, you know, lockstep with the book. I think if you think about it, all three major instances that made changes for visual purposes

and for action and moving the plot along, it made perfect sense. I actually would have been pissed off, I think, if they had done exactly what happened in the book. So I think Stephen Spielberg made some very good decisions to, you know, keep the spirit of the game going, but change a few of the details in there to make it more visual and more kinetic.

So I got no problem with any of that. Books very new. What would you say, three or four years ago? Oh, no, it's a little older than that. It might be like 2010. Wow, that long ago. Okay.

Well, I must have come late to the party then because I think I only read it like maybe four years ago or something. Because it feels like it's got a whole lot of like, you know, futuristic stuff that is like very plausible. Yeah. Well, the biggest difference, and this isn't a, you know, this isn't a spoiler at all, but the book is very, very specifically the 80s. And obviously, like Art was referring to, I'm sure they couldn't get all those licenses.

So, you know, they did kind of go outside the 80s with some, you know, some 90s stuff and a little bit of 70s and what late 70s and whatnot. But yeah, I think they did a great job sticking to the spirit of the book, but adding a lot of cool visual effects to it. Spielberg's a master. I mean, you know, I think that his heart is more in these kind of movies. They say it's not. A lot of the articles I've read about him are that he makes these types of movies now because he has to to get the money to make the little indie drama type shit that he wants to make. I can't watch something like this and believe that his heart wasn't into it.

Can you guys? No, there is a lot of passion and love. I mean, it was just fun. I mean, I don't know how else to explain, but it's just fun. and you can't make this kind of movie just by being that throw this crap in there throw this guy, throw that I mean it was you know

visually studying at points the first action sequence was awesome the second act the big thing in the second act that blew my socks off I was not expecting that at all and I mean that part alone could have to you know if that that could tell you right there that he

he was in it you know just the amount of time they spent in that location in the second act. You could tell that it was, you know, all right, he's in because there's, first of all that was able to do that, second of all that he was able to execute it as well as he did. I mean, there's no way you're going to half-ass that. The guy's a great storyteller. I mean, to go from something like Schindler's List and saving Private Ryan to this

and still make it pretty amazing. Like, dude, I can't imagine that Steven Spielberg couldn't walk. up to any producer right now and be like, hey, this is the movie I want to wake. Are you going to fund me? Mm-hmm. And, like, listen, my answer is yes, and I don't have money to fund him. But I'd fucking find it. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we got, we got Sutterberg last week and Spilberg this week, you know, a couple of masters of their craft, I would say. Yeah, but yeah, I think he's, I think you're right. His heart was definitely in this one.

as it is with a lot of the other movies that he makes, you know? I mean, the guy doesn't make movies just to just to fuck around, you know? I do want to talk a little bit about the main actors, but I don't want to do that until we get into spoilers. All right. So what do you guys think in here? Just want to go ahead and do scores? Yeah. I think so. Yeah, there's a lot to spoil here, you know.

And if somebody hasn't seen this movie yet after this, they probably need to just put this sucker on pause. and just come back and listen to us later. Yeah, definitely go watch it. You know, we do one to ten, man. Yeah, well, I'm going to give this an 8.5 and with potential to grow. The only criticism I have is that third act. It's a little sappy.

It slows it down. But it's kind of hard because the first act and the second act, there's so much octane that there's going to be some letdown in that third act. So that's what I'm giving them the benefit. It could easily be a nine for. me, but I'm going to go with it a little cautious here in 8.5, but I will return to this as soon as I can.

And I can see this, well, you know, the last non-animated movie that my son had on repeat was Spider-Man Homecoming, and I could tell when this comes out, this will be constantly playing in our house. Nice, nice. I'm gonna I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with an 8. I thought

it was a lot of fun. I enjoyed the story. I like the cast. My only, well, one of my only gripes is I did not like Ben Miner in this movie as the oh he was great man come on give me a break I didn't even realize that was him until

like halfway through the movie man wait which one which who was he he was the the bad guy the business guy yeah the business guy oh that guy yeah see it's not memorable he's a dickhead

I like yeah I'm gonna give it an 8 too I think that it definitely had a whole lot of cheese in it. Like I said, if you're looking for a if you're looking for a serious Spielberg movie that has like, you know,

dramatic flares and tear, you know, wrenching moments and all that, this is not it. But it's definitely fun to watch. It's it falls right

into summer blockbuster territory. Matter of fact, I think this was supposed to come out at the same time the last Jedi did and they just moved it because of that, which I think is a smart move. And right now it's coming out with really nothing opposing it except an aging Black Panther were just still killing it. I mean, it was ready to take over the box office.

It did what it was supposed to do, man. This thing definitely made some. money. I'm sure it'll continue to make money. It's not going to be one of Spielberg's greats, but it was good, man. It was fun to watch. Go check it out. Especially if you're like an 80s

kid, you're going to love it. Yeah, speaking of 80s kids, this doesn't happen every episode, I guess, but I'm I guess I'm going to be the high man on the totem pole that this go around. I give this a solid 9. Wow. And yeah,

I was watching the movie and And it didn't really start out that way for me. I was kind of, you know, yeah, it's probably going to be pretty good, maybe, you know, a little bit above seven, seven and a half. But I don't know. I just, what Spielberg did with the story and the way that he took the basic challenges, but then changed them to make them a lot, pop out a lot better on the actual screen. I don't know.

It was just, to me, it was the perfect melding. Anything I had a problem with, I'll talk about it in spoilers, but it's small stuff, man. I give this a nine. I love the hell out of this movie. And I got to say, look, if you're going to do computer animation stuff

and you can't quite make them look human, this is how you do that shit. Put them in a fucking video game. Well done. Like that, nothing, no computer animation in this movie, which was 60% computer animation. Yep.

None of it upset me. but if they did try to stick that same computer animation on Spider-Man jumping around, I'd have been upset. Yeah, or trying to make it look like the that Christmas train movie with Tom Hanks

in it. Oh yeah, Polaro Express. My wife love, they love that movie. Yeah. That movie's so creepy. It is. It's super fucking weird. They love it. Every fucking year, we have to watch that goddamn movie. Multiple times.

All right, you guys ready to spoil? Yes, sir. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

All right, who's going first? I'll go if you don't mind. Yeah, I absolutely. Yeah, you read the book. Yeah, so from the first get-go, I can't remember, I don't think, I don't remember the challenge specifically. I know I think there was some online criticism of the challenge is not being the way they were

the book. Dude, if they'd done it exactly like in the book, it would have put you to sleep, dude. They're saying they're playing 16-bit games and shit and if I don't get the criticism. It's a while our movie. Yeah. But no, just the King Kong, you know, the whole race. I mean, it was

just awesome. So, you know, you got the first challenge, you know, you find out what the oasis is, which I think that was a little heavy, you know, a little heavy on the narrative. They had the first, you know, but there was so much world building they had to do in short amount of time that it, to me, it was acceptable. And it helped my, you know, my son already knew what was going on, you know, but for someone, or like my wife, she hadn't read the book. She had to know, I explained a little to her, but she kind of, you know, just gave her a little,

you know, background information. But you kind of had to do that, you know, it's the future, it's a disopian future, Ohio, for some reason, the best to go in the city in the, in the, in the, the world. They have these thing called stacks. There's this thing called the oasis. And, you know, they get that. I think, you know, they knock it out as soon as they can. And right after that, it's the first big challenge.

Boom. And I think from there, it was awesome. I, the shining part, I can just not, I mean, my wife saw the shining for the first time last year. And she was like a big fan of it. You know, I think it was just hyped up too much for her at this point. Yeah. But we, we, she's got a more appreciation out here in California at University Studios.

you know, they have the Halloween horror nights and they have what they call mazes. You walk through these mazes, you try to scare the shit out of you. And one of the mazes this year was The Shining. So that kind of gave her more of appreciation. And when we saw that, yeah, we, she, at least she had to, you know, it, it made that whole scene more impactful for her. That was my favorite scene in the movie. Yeah, I mean, and they were there for so long. And the thing is, my son knows of the Shining.

He hasn't seen the Shining. I think he was walking in and out of the room, uh, uh, uh, the family. room when we're watching the movie so he kind of saw this and he's seeing you though that all the popular clips on youtube and it's been imitated to death you know so he knew of the shining and we've seen i think he saw like i don't know what was one of those green junkie youtube videos of you know explain the shining or whatever so he knew of the shining i mean that i that i that said i don't know how he worked that out with steaming king i know steven king didn't love that movie but i mean it is a uh uh uh you know that movie is one of the american standards you know what i

I mean, so that they were able to do that and actually pull it off very fucking well to mix in the horror with the comedy and this, I mean, that is when I just fucking, I just could not stop fucking smile into the mood. Like, what? It's going on. It's crazy. And when the, uh, uh, I forgot the character's name, the big guy. Uh, H.

H. When in 237, I mean, I was just losing it. My kid and you at 237. He was like, no, don't go in. there. I know I was like, do I need to cover their eyes? Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, no. Even there are certain parts of our, you know, but they, they even, you know, kind of a wink and a nod where the, you know, where his hand exactly was, you know, in relation to what could have been shown. But that, up to, you know, when they blew up the stacks, I mean, we, we had this part. My kid, he loves,

it's funny, my kid loves horror movies, but he's only seen a handful. He loves the concept to horror. I put this on the horror returns group. He wanted to be Freddie Cougar. last year. And I was like, I don't want him to be Freddie Cougar unless he sees a Freddie Cougar movie. I remember you saying that. And he's like, well, why don't I just watch the movie?

Because he can't just say you want to be Freddie Cooler. Why do you want to be Freddie Coole? Like, first of all, Freddie Cougar is like not, hasn't been around for a while, you're nine. So let's just watch one. I'm your dad. I know, he's kind of nervous. But, you know, when all the horror,

you have a little, Freddie, you have a Jason Camero, and then you have fucking Chuckie. which I think was like the fucking that was one of the best parts we just jumped up and I mean I don't know man I mean even thinking you haven't talking to the movie right now

I'm just small and it was just you know it was to me it was one of the funniest experience I've had in the movies with my kids and that for me that means a lot you know you watch movies in different phases in your life you know you get you know when you're 18 and you're kind of cynical little asshole and you know

now you're young all now you're a parent you appreciate different aspects of the movie and i really appreciate this movie because it gave me a good time with my son and we and we you know we really enjoyed it and we're looking forward to watching it again man yeah and you know like two of my favorite scenes even though they're like real little were uh that definitely that chucky part and then where they go back and show um all the uh like the guys in the war room that are all yeah when they all die i have one question about that dude my son You know the Ben Mendelson's character, Avatar and Oasis?

Yeah. My son told me he thought, he thought, is that Superman? Yeah, I think he is kind of supposed to look like. I was like, God. I'm like, I was waiting for him to be like an evil version. You know, evil Superman just tear shit up. I mean, I, you know, I'm not too upset that. That didn't happen.

But I was, when he, my son said it, I didn't even say. He's like, is he supposed to be Superman? So when he said that, I'm a big, like, my favorite comic book character is Superman. And there's not many people to say that. So I was just waiting for the moment. You know, it didn't happen. And I thought it would because Warner Brothers, you know, I think they, they're behind this movie, right? I think it was a Warner Brothers movie.

So that, you know, they have rights to Superman. It didn't happen. That's the one thing. I kind of wish it would have happened. But isn't that's not the worst, you know. I'm not 100% disappointed. It wasn't Superman. Yeah, I kind of get that feeling too when I saw him.

I was kind of waiting to see TJ Miller's, like, real person. Oh, yeah. I'm just as good without seeing that. Yeah. They got to have some comedy relief, right? It was good comedy, too. You know, I rock. Yeah.

Such a, your typical douchey gamer, like, no, you don't understand the importance of, you know, your typical, arrogant, you know, super serious video gamer that you got to watch your kids playing with. So, I mean, I think it was awesome, man. Yeah, so the, so here's the big changes. in the challenges.

The first one that was the race, where he finally learned he could race backwards and go through that secret portal and just totally avoid King Kong rather than trying to like go around him or go through him. In the book, he actually had to go to like an island and like it was a, I think it was like an elementary school. Because they used to have, a lot of the book,

if you'll remember art, is just him like having to slowly build his credits up and also 80s trivia and class and stuff like. that. It's it's it's it would be really boring in a movie but it works in a book. And there's not enough time in the movie and but I'm glad they cut it out. Yeah. Because I think it just made it that much fun of a ride. Yeah. You can't do it justice. So instead of playing you know like a game of Dungeons and Dragons and then like joust or whatever, he has a car race much better in a movie. The, the, the shining part you're talking about, you know, beats the hell out of, you know, what he, what he did in the book.

You know, these, these people that are pissed off because it's different from the book. Get a, get a, get a, life. I mean, you've got two different media here. You've got a book and you've got a movie. You don't want it to be exactly the same. You know, I mean, you want it to keep to the spirit of the story, and I thought it did. The only problem that I had,

and it's, like I said, it's a little one. It's very superficial, but I really thought the two main characters, Parzival and Artemis, in the book, they're like really, really awkward looking. Like, as the Parzibald's, like, way or weight is, like, super overweight and pimply and stuff. They should

have stuck to that, I thought. That's the one thing. I mean, they give her the birth mark. Yeah. Yeah, a birth mark. Big deal. You know, she still looked cute, you know? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that's, that's what I told my wife. Birthmark on a fucking model. Right. She's still a model. And even H, H was supposed to be really heavy, heavy set. And there's a little backstory in her in the book that her mom found out she was a lesbian and kicked her out of her house.

That's why she was living in that man. Yeah, they didn't. You know, I went into any of the backstory in the story in the book. in the movie. I could see that they didn't have time to get in the backstory but at least have the character fitting the character was great.

I like Leanne Waits. She was very entertained but that's the one thing that whatever that kind of bothered me. One other criticism I had was I can't remember

it's been years like I said since I did the book but I think when they won and he got the oasis I think he just gave it to the people like made it open source. Yeah I kept looking for that too that he absolutely did.

Yeah. And the Tuesday and Thursday thing kind of lame. That was like, oh, you know, that's kind of their lesson like, A kid. So it would always be on electronics, you know, have, which I kind of get the message, but I don't need you to tell me that, you know, it should have just, you know, that was a little sappy, uh, true, the score towards the end. I, I didn't like the part when Benjamin Mendelsohn just walks to the crowd with a fucking gun and no one's going to try to stop him. Oh, yeah. Right. I thought, yeah.

Can't stop him. Come on. Concept there. I was like, what the fuck is happening right now. And there's no way that he wouldn't, that character wouldn't pull that trigger either. He would have fucking, like, he didn't grow up hard at the last fucking minute. I hated that whole fucking thing right there. Especially when they had already confronted him. They're like, we know who you are, motherfucker. I mean, at that point, he had nothing to lose, you know? Yeah, it's like Judge Reinhold getting the weeny whistle all of a sudden at the end, right?

It's almost like Ray getting superpowers or something at the end or something, but I don't know. or Princess Leia learning how to... Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Okay. Damn it, Art. And you know what?

I can't even, fucking... I can't even argue with you about that either. No. No argument there. No, but yeah, I mean, just those little nitpicks there. What were your guys' favorite Easter eggs that you spotted in a movie? I could tell you one that I haven't spotted yet that my son saw right away. that I'm surprised he knows who it is. It was He-Man.

He saw He-Man. I never saw He-Man in there. He-Man was there. I missed it too. Are you sure? And I looked up a YouTube video. They mentioned He-Man. They can't show you the footage yet because it's still in the movie there. But they said He-Man was one of those like, fuck, dude, I, Keman was my shit growing up. Hell yeah.

Did you guys notice that the back to the, the DeLorean was a mixture of a Knight Rider? Yeah. No, I didn't notice that. Yeah. The kit lights up front. Oh, that makes sense. I didn't think about it. Another one that I was really surprised they pulled was Spawn.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was like, fucking Spawn? I mean, not that. I'm more shocked that they would even think to pull Spawn. Like, damn, that's all. That's like kind of random, you know. Like, well, fuck.

I dig it. Get the rights to which can. Yeah. Beetlejuice was in there. Yeah, I saw that. There's a lot of horror references in this movie. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like you said, they had Chuckie, they had Jason, they had Freddie.

I'm pretty sure there's a few on missing, and the whole shining. I mean, Jesus Christ, not only like I said, that they pulled it off. I don't know who exactly they had. I don't know if that had had any sort of Stephen King's blessing. I'm pretty sure I would think that Stephen Spielberg would give him a heads up. But, I mean, it was done so well. Yeah, you would think he would. Yeah.

That's probably the only reason they had all those different. different, all that different stuff is because Spielberg just probably went to these people and said, hey, I'm going to put you in this movie and they were like, okay, cool. Yeah, you got the chest buster, busting out of Goroos from Border Convent. And then you got a T2 reference at the end. Oh, yeah. And the Iron Giant went into the lava. Oh, I didn't even catch that.

Yeah. Yeah, when he put the thumbs up. Now you mentioned a Brian, that would have been cool of somehow a Mortal Kombat and a street fighter character. could have rubbed up because Raiy was in it. Blanca was in it. If somehow, but I'm pretty sure there are certain stipulations that they didn't want certain characters maybe going, but

that would have been fucking awesome, dude. That's that's something. That's my old school video gaming thing. That's the one, you know, one of the last things that hasn't been achieved is Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter. That would have been awesome, dude. Right. See, they came all the way up to Overwatch, dude. If there's

nothing in this nostalgic for you, then I'm Like, then you haven't ever played video games or anything, you know? I don't play it overwatch, but I've seen the covers. I've seen posters. I know what it is, you know. Right. Yeah.

Same thing. I mean, there's so many fucking games that my kid in Minecraft, the first one was that, like, well, the first thing. Minecraft, my kid was like, what? Like, that's what we knew. Like, oh, shit. That was like the first 30 seconds. Like, okay, we're in, you know.

That was a perfect, you know, I think that was, you know, for the young kids that get their attention. Bam, Minecraft World, what the fuck's going on here? You know what I loved? Art, you may catch this one. It was that little the bomb that they threw in that D-Rex. Oh, the meatball? Is that what it was?

Is that what that was? A madball? Mad ball. I saw something about that recently, yeah. I didn't remember what the hell the name of it was, but I was like, I remember it. Yeah. Yeah, those are back now. Oh, yeah, I've seen them recently. I know

They're like, yeah, they're like horror movie characters now. Oh, cool. I remember when they first came out, man. And I saw that and I was like, wow, that is a random rest reference right there. That is. It's for such a big scene, too. Yeah, I love the, what was it, the Zemeckis Cube. Yeah, that was awesome.

Zemeckis and Back to the Future. Sure. That whole reference. Well, you guys know I love when Halliday did his, that if you're watching this, Oh, yeah. The way it was decorated around his casket. You guys know I got into that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, all the fucking Enterprise. Yeah. And did you guys notice that even when they were in their virtual rooms and stuff like that, they had like, I saw like a Mad Max poster and stuff like that? Yeah. Like a computer generated Mad Max poster. Because that's kind of the one thing the movie, or I'm sorry, the book explains that every, like the state of the world is in such a fucked up situation.

that they really, there's really no more, not much production of newer media. So their only resource is to go back in the past and recycle all the shit. So no one's really making movies because it's just, everything's horrible. So, you know, or the world's in a horrible state. So they're just recycling the media. That's why it's still in. That's why it's still popular with the newer generations, you know? Kind of like all the remakes we have now.

Oh, now. Just saying, we're not far off from it. Yeah, but then you get stuff like this movie, so, you know, it ain't all bad. Yeah. So we've had pretty good movies two weeks in a row now. Yeah. That's a good point. I'm just so happy with, you asked me about a month ago, Matt, I'm sorry, Lance, to come on, I was like, dude, there's no more perfect movie that I would have been, want to have been on the show for, besides this one, dude, this is freaking right up my alley.

So, thanks again. Yeah, we weren't even going to cover this one, dude. until you mentioned it. So I'm glad you did. I'm sure we would have still seen it. But, uh, yeah, appreciate you being here, man. Uh, yeah, I'm glad I got to watch it. Anytime you want to, you want to come back, we'll, we'll figure something out for sure. And hopefully we'll see you in Chicago. Yeah, man. I hope that happens. I'll keep my fingers crossed. And any, uh, let me see any obscure comic movie or any movie that Liv Tyler's on, and I'll give you a call. All right. Brian, are you on that, Brian?

Yeah. All right, cool. Well, so anything else you want to talk about or plug or anything, Art, before we do the wrap-up section? I don't got much, man. I hang out. I still hang and interact with my buddy Fonzo and Tony and their buddy Harley on the Bad Boy podcast. It's another podcast where they, I think their thing is just randomly rant on all movie and TV shows. So pretty cool guys.

You've had them on here. You can tell, you know, they're fun. You know, back hopefully, Denny Louise coming back with his after midnight podcast. We're all wanting you come back, Danny. Please bring that show back. Also, yeah, I know there's a few wrestling hands. At least Brian's a wrestling fan. And we opened up, or not we, one of your former guests, Draven, I don't know if he uses

real name or Pedro Nunez or whatever. He has a Facebook group called the Kay Fabulous Lucha Brothers. and if you know their form of comedy or new attitude towards wrestling, the group is just like that. They've kind of took a hiatus on their podcast, but it's still a really good time. So anyone that wants to go over there, go ahead, check it out. And one guy that was really, really impressed by,

on your March Madness show is, I believe his name was Michael Flesher, Flesher from. And I cannot recite that plug he had for, his, uh, like a pleasure that fucking, fucking,

uh, plug he had for his adult entertainment, web or site. But I was trying to, I was trying to recite it here and remember it because that guy came out smooth as a motherfucker. I fucking say that plug.

Yeah. He's, he's a badass, dude. Yeah. Yeah, he runs, uh,

red shirt pictures, dude. They, yeah, I'll check his IMDP page. Do a lot of DVDs. I was talking about his other joint venture, but,

I'm not entirely sure that it was real, but it may very well. It sounded real to me. It was real to me, damn it. It was real to me. If it wasn't real, it was definitely true. I had no fucking clue of what was going on. The music came on. That was awesome.

I had to turn down the lights. I was like, whoa, what's going on here? But no, I want to say thank you guys for the thousands and hundreds of hours of entertainment. you guys provide her a week and you guys are doing an awesome job. All right, thanks. Definitely appreciate it. And for everybody listening, don't forget about our contest. It's now in effect, so you can go ahead and start doing your iTunes reviews now.

And just make sure we know who you are so we can reach out and get your address, T-shirt size if you want that, or get the kuzzi ready for you. We'll definitely have them out by early May in time for Frightmare. And be sure to follow us on where, Brian? Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tumblr, just type in the horror returns and everything will pull up. Everywhere. We are everywhere. Everywhere podcast are found, right?

Yep. I mean, iTunes, sorry. I forgot those. Don't forget that. We're going to have another guest next week, guys. They say we've turned into a sausage fest around here, so it's about time to have a female perspective again. What do you guys think?

Oh, for it. We are going to be joined by special guests and actress Jen Nangle, a. what? Malvolia, the Queen of Screams. Who? He's going to be joining us. Go check this, check out.

Yeah, we're going to discuss a quiet place and also the dissent. Yes. So, Philip, until the... the horror returns again. Buenos Noyes. That's fabulous!