The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #98: The Host (2006) & Rampage (2018) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: December 16, 2022

This week, Nez brings Theo Vellejo to the THR studios to talk about Rampage and The Host. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back. Another week. Another horror returns. everybody. Thanks for joining us. We got a couple of surprise bonuses here at the at the horror return studios that we weren't expecting at all this week. And hey, the great horror movies have definitely been coming out the last three and four weeks in a row. I think we all agree. So I think the dry spell for the year is over and everything from here on out is going to be

outstanding. I could just feel it. Including every single movie. Absolutely. So, Hey, look who stopped by. It's our good friend, the Naz, who's actually got a chair here warm for him all the time anyway. But who are you bringing with you, Naz? Yo, what's up, everybody? If you guys are E-Socii, listeners, we got the host for the E-Socii. The Z-Su is in the house.

Hey, hey, what's going on? What's up, Theo? Man, I thought I'd never actually get to talk to you, man. I'm so glad you joined us, dude. Yeah, great to be here. Hey, what's the latest and the greatest over there, man? Oh, man. We just got out, we just got out a rampage like an hour or so ago.

So got some fresh takes on that. Oh, we got to hear that for sure, man. So tell all our listeners where they can find you guys. Want to hit it up, Ness? Go ahead. Everyone knows. If you don't know by now. just go to Podbean or iTunes

and look Skaternes Podcast Network and you'll find our show, the E Society, as well as McNaz, big guys out of necessity and up to the challenge. Everything is there. Up to the challenge is new. We just dropped our sixth episode

with that show. It's just kind of challenge each other to watch something. And so far, these six episodes, episodes have been good, man. And movies I haven't seen and TV shows I have not seen that I've liked. And our last episode was Lance's favorite Dane de Haan with the Valerian and the destruction of whatever, something in the thousand cities. Which was surprisingly I did enjoy it. I was, if you guys know me, I hate Dane to Han. And I just, did not want to watch this movie.

It was actually pretty good. And then I challenged the Zisu here with Friday the 13th, the original 1980 classic, and he's never seen that. Plus Friday the 13th was yesterday. So it was only right for us to do something for the occasion. So we did that. And East Society we do every week. We got another episode coming later this week.

We're going to have our brother Joel on this. this next episode because we're finally going to be in studio at the command center here in Sparks, Nevada. And instead of doing it, so it won't sound crappy, ladies and gentlemen. Usually our internet sucks and we cut each other off. But we're going to do a really good episode this week. Well, at least will sound good. We'll sound better than usual. All right, cool.

Well, since you got to stop by, I figured we'd bring our listeners a little extra treat. uh this week since like i said uh we've had so many uh excellent movies lately come out so i know we've all been looking forward to to uh to truth to truth or dare uh nez you saw it theo did you check it out no i didn't make it over i didn't make it to it yeah okay was it uh just me and you then nez yeah well let's let's jump into that and then if you guys can stick around for a while uh cover our cool of the week and uh as long as you guys can Stick around. We'd like to have you here. I know you got stuff going on. Yeah, sounds good.

All right. Well, since this was last minute, Nez, I didn't really put any trivia together for this one. I actually just saw it today. But I will tell you this, before we go anywhere, tell you a little bit about the director, Jeff Wadlow. Are you familiar with him? Yeah, I am. All right. Well, this should be an excellent movie, dude. I want to hear nothing less than an eight from you because here's his IMDB. After Quentin Tarantino saw Jeff Wadlow's latest writing and directing effort Kickass 2, he named it one of 2013's best films, stating it demonstrated, quote,

a real, auteur approach. With that being said, Nez, truth or dare, baby, what'd you think? Well, first, I didn't really like Kickass 2. The first one kicked ass. The second one was a low sidekick for you. Big of Geeks got listeners. But truth or dare? Come on.

Truthfully, if it was rated R, it would have been better. Okay, I could see that. Are we going to spoil this or no? You know what? I don't think any of our listeners are really going to see. this man. Well, let's clear the air.

Spoiler alert. Okay. I mean, if you guys want to see it, I mean, watch the trailer, that was pretty much the movie. Right. And if it was rated R,

it would have been so much better. It would have been, well, I would have gave it a better score. But I was, like, disappointed with this movie. I was like, really? I mean, you see most of the deaths

in the trailer. I mean, especially the one when the guy stabs himself in the face with the pen. Right. What they show in the trailer is what you get in the movie. I was like,

oh, what? I mean, I thought they were going to at least show us it stuck in his head really quick. Oh, man. I was so hyped and ready for this movie because it looked good. It looked creepy.

I like the idea of it, but it just, it fell flat. for me. I was just like, I don't know, man. I mean, this, I didn't like anybody in it. I didn't really care for the main girl in it. But I did feel

sorry for one of the guys because his girlfriend was cheating all over them and everything, but oh, man, I mean, it just I wanted so much more. If it was rated R, they would have been able to show all the deaths and blood

and everything. And they Did they even show any blood in this? You know what? They showed a little blood leaking under a doorway in one scene. They didn't show what actually happened behind the door, but they showed some blood leaking out. And I think that was that pin scene, Kevin. Yeah, that's right.

But you know what got me on this? Huh. On Truth or Dare? I thought Madonna was great, man. It was good taking a look at her inside life. Oh, wait a minute. Did I watch the wrong truth or dare? Well, I like Madonna's truth or dare better than this one.

Oh, man. I mean, Blumhouse has put out so much good stuff. Right. And why'd they put this out? This could have went straight to on-demand or VOD, whatever. I was just like, oh, man. All right. But hey, but to your point, as you're saying,

you wish it was rated R. But correct me if I'm wrong. a movie you and I both liked Wish Upon. Wasn't that PG-13? Yeah. I mean, you can do it good. They did. Like with the grudge. That was PG-13

and they did a good job with that. I mean, you can do it good. You can show a little gore, a little something. They didn't show anything. And I was just... Yeah, it was pretty bad. Oh, my God. I was so disappointed. I don't have

movie pass yet. I need to it so I can stop wasting my money on these crappy movies because you're what, you're at least $10 in to get in on top of your drink and popcorn so you're looking over 20, close to

$30. And if you bring a date, oh man. Overall, if you do want to see it, I mean, the trailer spoils the old movie for you. There is some stuff that's not in the trailer, but I was just so let down. If I have to score it, I'm going to give it a four.

I mean, I was entertained with some of it, but I was just, oh, man, I was just kind of like, oh, come on, do something with this movie. They could have done something, but they didn't. They just, this is for the kiddies, so let's not show anything. I was concerned about this one when I saw the stupid faces that they make. That was actually kind of neat looking. In the trailer, I was like, oh, I don't know if I'm going to like this. But was it just me, or did they go out of their way to try to find a Selena Gomez lookalike to play the main check? They did.

I didn't know anybody in this movie except for... Right. though the one boyfriend that was getting cheated. I had seen him. I don't even know him. Team Wolf? Yes, okay. That's where I seen him.

Okay. He's the only one that I'd seen in something else. But that team will, that show was garbage. But, yeah, man, Blumhouse, you guys drop the ball on this one. Whatever they come with up next better be a million times better. It's stick to our movies. All right. So you give it a four?

Yeah. And I usually rate a lot lower than you do. I give it a four and a half, man. I actually kind of had a little bit of fun with this movie, man. I disliked it just a little bit more than I liked it. I kind of like that Cabin in the Woods, that dark ending there, man. I thought that was kind of messed up, you know? I know, but, I mean, you could have took that ending and strengthened it a little, made it a little bit.

It had potential. Okay. I'm going to stick before. I mean, the only thing I liked was the ending. I mean, the little creeper smiles, I thought that was cool. I did like that. Right. How they made their smile and their eyes turned red.

But, oh, man, it just, but truthfully, I did not see that end coming. Okay. We won't spoil that for you, but I was like, okay, I like the ending. But everything before that was like, no. All right. So truth or dare, we're. We're both saying we dare you to check it out, right? Oh, no, we dare you not to check it out.

Fuck it. All right. Unless you want to learn the truth. All right. That's enough for that. I'll let myself out. Hey, hey, here's, I don't let yourself out, dude, because this is our favorite part of the show. And Theo, you get to go first, man, because you're our big guest, dude.

Sounds good. Yeah, we start our show with a little something called Cool of the Week. What's the coolest thing that you've seen this week? Come back to me. I'll give you something good. Okay. All right, who wants to go? I'll go because mine's boring.

It's the same thing it was last week. Ash versus the Evil Dead is awesome. That's not boring? No. Well, it's just the same answer because there's just like nothing on right now. I'm caught up with the Walking Dead, but it's... Yeah? Yeah, it's okay.

Are you on the third season? Uh-oh. of Ash versus the Evil Dead? Yeah. Okay. See, I've only seen the first two season. Oh, it's awesome.

Keep watching, man. It's, I always forget about it, and then I'll binge to catch up. Right. And I'm like, why do I forget about this show? It kicks so much ass. Did they cancel it? No, they said, uh,

I believe the last episode got the lowest ratings ever in the series. Oh, no. And basically Bruce Campbell's saying if it gets, if it gets canceled, then that's it. There's not going to be no movie, no nothing. It's done. Well, if that happens, it was fun while it lasted, because this show kicks ass. I think they should do one more movie with everybody from the show. That would be great. Yeah. It would be awesome.

Sounds like the man has spoken, though. I'll go next. My cool of the week is yesterday was Force Friday. which was Friday the 13th. And we were a little, Theo and I, we were a little let down with the toys because at all the places

we went, only Target had some of the new solo toys out, like figures and the pops and other little things. But they, it was real crappy with the super little small

little section in the back aisle. So if we didn't even walk to that back aisle, we wouldn't have seen them at all. Usually they have a huge, big displays, there was none of that anywhere. We went to Toys R Us, Walmart

Target. Yeah, they did, I don't know what they're doing. Maybe they just not feeling this movie or what, I don't know what's going on. They didn't promote it like they have in the past. In the past, there was so much video hype and it would be in the ads.

And Target, for example, had the coupons and stuff. They didn't even have anything in the ads. So, yeah, I don't know. They just kind of slept on it at this time. Hot Topic was the only one that really was on their game as far as they had their exclusive pop and the whole selection. But yeah, other than that, it was real hit and miss for that. It's disappointing.

That wasn't my cool week. That's just how we started out our forced Friday. We ended it. We went and had dinner at Denny's. It's not my favorite restaurant to go to. It's usually a drunk restaurant when you eat. but they were having, they had an exclusive solo menu.

Like they had their little entrees and then if you got a drink, it was a cool little cup. It's kind of like a kid's cup, a little bigger than a kid's cup, maybe medium size. But it has the, the topper is the new Millennium Falcon from the movie. Yeah, I saw you post that on Facebook. Yeah, if you guys follow us on Instagram and all that, we were holding the cups.

I didn't get anything off of the menu. I just got regular stuff, but the Zizo here got the Blaster Fire burger. As long as it's not the ass blaster. It's pretty spicy unexpectedly. If I would have ate it, it would have been the ass blaster because Theo sitting there eating it. He's, man, this is really spicy. But the cool of the week was the, little cups. We got it, Denny's.

And I remember seeing the commercials and everything and I was thinking, oh, okay, whatever. I forgot, totally forgot about it. But Theo here was like, hey, let's go to Danny's. So we ended our 4th Friday there, and that was probably our cool week. Just catching up because when we do our show, he's way up

in Northern California, almost at the top of California, and I'm in mid-range. So when we do get together, it's good that we go out and try to look for collectibles and everything. So that was pretty much my cool. hanging out with the Zisu here and eating Denny's. Nice.

Nice. Yeah, totally agree with Nez. And that's a perfect one to kind of relay into mine. I had to make sure it was in the past week. But yeah, Solo, the second trailer for it dropped just six days ago. So technically in the last week. And, yeah, obviously, we always talk so much Star Wars on the show. And I know on the show we talked about how.

Coming into the year, we weren't sure if Solo was going to be our top movie. Going in the previous year, we knew we were going to love Last Jedi and everything like that, but we just didn't know anything about Solo. So it's good to see how good the trailers look. I'm loving what I'm seeing out of it from Donald Glover, Woody Harrelson, the Droid, L3. It's looking good. So, yeah, all on board and fully excited for this. So it's about a month away from coming out now.

All right. I'm glad you guys are. Yeah, I mean, I'm excited about it, but I haven't really heard a whole lot. I mean, they're definitely not promoting this one the way they have been. For you wrestling fans. Oh, no. Yes. She's going to come up.

Miss Money in the Man. Yes. The Princess of Staten Island, the Isle of Shaolin, cast in her money in the bank, and over Charlotte. Now she's the new Smackdown champion. And that was real unexpected. I was hoping that she would cash it in during the last weekend's WrestleMania, but she didn't,

and she cashed it in Tuesday night, and it was glorious. I could not understand one word when she jumped in the ring because she was screaming so loud and the ref was being stupid, but, hey, Charlotte was pretty much beat up already. So she cashed it in, and she's the new Smackdown champ,

and I'm looking forward to Oscar, taking the belt away from her. hopefully at the greatest Royal Rumble or whatever that is but what did you think,

Brian? Oh, I loved it. Me and you were messaging back and forth I thought it was going to happen at WrestleMania, but

I thought it was going to happen at WrestleMania. WrestleMania was a little too long for it, I guess. It was a, what was it like an eight-hour show? Okay.

Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. It was really long. Yeah, I fell asleep during that last match. I woke up and Roman Raines was leaking blood everywhere. I heard you, I heard Lesnar went off script and made it his own. And that's what he did, man. And go ahead.

Everybody was saying that Roman Raines bladed himself. There's no way he bled it. No, those were legit elbows. Oh. And a good I know that Lance, Philip, you guys don't watch wrestling.

This was, you guys know Brock Lesner, right? Yeah. I've seen the movie, The wrestler. Okay. So just imagine

Brock Lesnar throwing probably, I say, probably three or four legitimate elbows to someone's head. Well, he's crushed some people in the UFC. I remember watching him do that.

Yeah. So that's pretty much, you catch a few of those and you're definitely leaking everywhere. Yeah, that's a quick way to bleed. Yeah, I mean, I was mad, but I think he's going to get it. He's going to get the belt at the Greatest World Rumble.

And I'm, I guess I'm cool with it being in Saudi Arabia. And I think that's why Jenda Mahal won the United States championship belt, so he can go over there and be a champ. I was rooting for him that whole time, so I was happy that he won. Fuck that guy. Saudi Arabia. You guys saying the Iron Sheik might show up? I've heard of him.

I don't know. That would be amazing. Oh, yeah, I like to do that. I have no idea. You should watch that documentary on Iron Sheik. I heard it was pretty good. Yeah, he had a rough life. And last wrestling thing.

Sorry, everybody. Supposed to be doing horror, but now turned into a wrestling show. If you guys get a chance, check out the Andre the Giant documentary on HBO, man. It was amazing. Yeah, I've heard good things. I want to watch that. Okay, real quick. I got a not cool and a cool. My not cool is I've seen.

Okay, I've seen Inoperable with Daniel Harris. Daniel Harris kicks ass. This movie does not avoid it. It is out there. If you're going to watch it, seek those means. Inoperable, huh? I don't even know what it is.

It sounds kind of like the clap, huh? But stay like. Yeah, pretty much. Stay. Yeah, it's out there. But, you like, uh, next movie I checked out was a low life. Oh.

Uh, this movie, uh, a lot of people were telling me this was, uh, going to be one of their best movies of the year. I was fucking bored through this entire movie. Oh, no. Damn it. You got, you get, you get a luchador named El Monstro. You get a white dude with a swastika tattooed on his face. Yeah.

When you meet the guy, man, when you, when you meet the character, he has no business. with this swastika on his tattoo. He was forced to get one in prison. That's what it sounded like from the trailer. And you get introduced to all these other characters and this movie should have been phenomenal, but I was bored. I didn't care.

El Monstro is this guy. When he loses it, he just fucks everybody up. You never get to see anything because he blacks out when this happens. You just see him waking up. Is this that movie that we watched the trailer for and talk

about? Yes. We've seen it. We've seen two trailers for it. And it's no good. I can't believe that. I know that disappoints me. Yeah, I, maybe somebody else will watch it and tell me different, but I was bored. Oh, man, I wanted to see that too. Yeah. No, no offense, Brian. I'm not taking your word for this one, man. Well, you were hyping up truth of there, so I wasn't taking your word for that one either. But my cool of the week is I got to check out the first two episodes Netflix is Lost in Space. Oh. And I did it.

It's a fun little space adventure. I'm sure if anybody's checked out the original series, they did change some things for this show. And I'm all cool with it. And I didn't know the first two episodes was directed by someone we just recently reviewed his movie, Neil Marshall, directed the dissent.

No kidding. Yeah, he's directing the first two episodes, and he's also executive producer for the series. Nice. Came on Netflix yesterday, I believe, and so far, I'm liking it so far, so definitely my cool little week.

So has Parker Posey shown up yet as the doctor? Yes, yes. And how, How is she doing? Because you talk about a totally different character than the original show. Without spoiling it, she might play a character that you might despise. The thing she's doing in the show. I always like Parker Posey.

She's awesome. But as I think, I think, for that character, kind of doing a few shady things. Oh, man, I'm really intrigued. I got like 20 minutes into it and then I got busy at work so I had to stop. But it didn't start out like the TV show or the movie. So they were in space and then they were on Earth. And then I'm like, what? Then Judy got frozen water and then I got.

Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to check this out. Yeah, one thing I will kind of say, it does kind of jump. jump back and forth. So. Flashbacks. Yeah.

Okay. Because I was like, whoa, are they going to show them taking off? But I don't know. There is explanation. Okay. Well, I mean, I like what I've seen so far. I mean, I'm all into it. I love Lost in Space.

I mean, I love the TV show, the black and white, the color versions. And even the movie, which everyone hated. But I enjoyed it. I wanted a second one, but they never gave us one. Now we get this TV show, but I'm all for it. Right. Yeah, it's what, 10 episodes or something like that? I think so.

Not too bad. So Netflix should stick with the 10 episodes and definitely veer away from the 13 episodes because my very, very uncool of the week is I was so disappointed because season one of this show was my absolute favorite of all the Marvel superhero shows so far. but dude guys season two of jessica jones oh my god this was just torture

oh no frog through this yeah i heard it is slow as shit oh my god kind of going downhill man there's no villain it's like a family drama it's like a lifetime movie

this is the worst garbage i've ever seen the best spoilers yeah the best villain was in the first season and no shit That's what made the first season And he shows up as like a A memory or a ghost or something like that In one episode of this one

And it almost gets a little interesting And then it goes sharply downhill again I can't I mean I had to get through it guys I'm watching I'm in for a penny In for a pound with the Marvel Netflix shows So

And it's already been renewed for season three Oh Yeah I've heard that I'm gonna touch on this quick. I'm not going to say one thing about it. I'm just going to say it's my cool of the week. I don't want to spoil anything. But the new AMC show The Terror.

If you like Slow Burn, it's a really well, well-acted, well-written, excellent, excellent show three episodes in. So that's definitely my cool of the week. If you guys haven't checked it out yet, give it a try. They say it takes three or four episodes to ramp up,

but I was actually enjoying it with the very first episode. So check out the terror. Yeah, I checked out the first episode of that. And I liked the kind of subtle creepiness they did. You know what I'm talking about? The underwater scene. I thought that was effective.

Yes. So. Yeah, good show. Very well done. So look, I don't know how long you guys can stick around, but you guys want to go on with us, like, into headlines and everything? Can you stick around a while? Or do you want to just cover ram?

I don't know. Yeah, we can keep going. All right, cool. Quick question, Lance. Is Star Trek over? Yeah, the first season of Discovery is officially over, and it has been renewed for two more seasons. So we'll get at least two more seasons of it.

And the speculation is that it's going to start up again in probably September of next year, September of 19. Okay. Well, I'm hoping that they're hyping. up at a comic con. Yeah. They should be, man. I'm going to try to zip through it

before July, so. How many episodes? I think it's, was it, was it 16 or 12 or something like that? Because it was like half the season, and then they took a little break into the second half. But the first half, to me, started

losing me a little bit because they were getting way too heavy into the Klingon War. And I thought it was a, you know, it was pretty repetitive. not to mention it was really hard to fucking understand the Klingon talk. I'm not that big of a nerd. But the second half, it goes in a totally different direction. That was actually my favorite episode of the original series was basically that world.

They dove into that the whole second half. So I can't wait. I can't wait for the next season. This is before Kirk and Spock, right? Yeah, just a little bit. I think it's like five or six years before that. So they don't go to the groovy hippie planet like they did in the original suit? You're talking about Eden?

Yeah. Yeah, they may. There's still time. But they haven't yet. Is that the one where Kirk bangs all the aliens? Oh, that's every one. That's every episode. All right.

Ryan, we got any headlines, man? The final season of Game of Thrones, we're going to get an epic battle scene that was reported to... It was reported to take 55 nights and three locations to film. That's a pretty epic battle scene, so this one sounds pretty good.

Now, put this in perspective. It said the Battle of the Bastards a battle scene only took 25. Okay. Oh, wow. Now, on this one, I want to hear Theo chime in, because if I'm not mistaken, Theo, aren't you the one that responsible for bringing Ness into the Game of Thrones world? Oh, yeah, definitely.

Was bringing up for many years. And then, yeah, I finally jumped on the train before this current season just aired. So what are you thinking? What are you hoping happens in the final season? Oh, man. Surprisingly, you know, the show was known for so many years for like, like just, you know, sweeping the legs out from under you. You lose your favorite characters.

And they were having some wins, which, you know, I was fine with it. I had fun with it. But it feels like to be true to the show, we're probably going to have some, like, big time devastating losses and whatnot. So we know, well, spoiler alert real quick. We know the wall came down. So it's. Everybody versus the dead now, right? Sure.

I'm pretty sure everybody is dying this season. Right. Brian better not die. It's just going to end with the Night King sitting on the throne, right? Final shot. Wow. It'll be whoever wins the whole goddamn thing. That's it.

That's the only person left alive. Right. Terea. Nobody left to rule over. Brian's going to be on the throne. with that that were so, man. She sure didn't make it very far in Star Wars. She'll go chucky on her ass and like,

she's still alive. She's still alive. They did her dirty, man. Yeah, they did. Return. She'll return one more time. What I want in Game of Thrones, I just want more dragon action.

That's what I want. I'm pretty sure it's coming. Once the dragons got big, oh man, that's what I was like fully all. board. Right. And I loved it. And we're definitely going to bring back

Nez on the throne for you E-Ssociety listeners. We did that as I was watching each season. And then we started doing it every week when the last season aired. And we're going to do that again. But I guess what? Next year is when it comes out. Yeah. Yeah.

Killing it. Drawing it out. All right. A Quiet Place, director and star John Krasinski is now apparently when I'm reading one of the hottest filmmakers in Hollywood.

Right. And he's going to be teaming up with Platinum Dunes again for his next film, which is going to be a sci-fi movie called Life on Mars. Oh, wow. I'm interested. Yeah, because A Quiet Place just crossed 100 million.

Well, well deserved. Oh, yeah. Wait, wait, wait. We have some listener feedback that's going to be controversial. Spoiler alert. Yeah, okay. It's really great. Let's see here.

A couple new, we've been keeping up with this as weeks been going on. Rob Zomies 3 from hell. Right. Has just casted Richard Brake. Hey, there you go. Himself. Good. I like to see.

Yeah. Yeah, so look at the castles. If they've been in a Rob Zambi movie, they're going to be in this movie. And that's going to be a all-star cast. He likes sticking with his guys. I mean, you know, we talk to all the 31 people. Go back and check out the last Fright Mirror episode. We talked to all of them, man.

And they were all talking about how Rob Zambi really likes his cast. And he just wants to keep on cast in him and stuff. He has a real close relationship. everybody. Even, even Dee Wallace had a lot to say about it. Yeah, well, she's in this one. Didn't they just, go ahead. Didn't they just finish filming all Bill Mosley's parts? Yeah, I believe so, and he's, he's like praising this movie saying it's Rob Zombie's best. Well, he would have to say that. Yeah. If he didn't.

I was happy when Pancho Moller got he was on board Oh hell yeah I follow him on Instagram And he had a picture up of him and Bill Mosley And I guess he said they were done Filming what he's going to be in the movie

Dude I turned the I turned the corner over there at Fright Mayor Nez and you're over there drinking a beer with him Talking about skateboarding Yeah I mean I think I mean

I think we've already talked about this before but 31, I mean, I don't know if it was all of us, but when we first seen it, we were all like, eh, it was all right. But then after last year, meeting all of them sitting in the paddle and I gave it another shot, and I, like, really like it now. I mean, I think meeting and talking to everybody that we met that was in the movie, it just made me like, man, these guys were hell of cool and they answered all our questions. and the interviews that you guys got, which was awesome. And I think that's turned us or turned to me around. Like, I really like this movie now.

And I think talking to Paul Tramolar, when we talked a shit ton of skateboarding, and then we started talking about the movie. I actually went and bought a movie so he could sign it. He was the only one that I had signed it because I thought he was a really cool guy. And I was like super psyched when I found out that he was on board. But I assume his part is really small if he's done shit.

shooting already. No pun intended. No pun intended. Not to mention Danny Trejo is in this, and you can't really go wrong with him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I'm looking at the cast list. Clint Howard is going to be in this.

Right. Hell yeah. Yeah, it's a long list of people that's going to be in this movie, so. If they're done from, oh, go ahead. Is Treo and Diamond Dallas the same characters?

I hope so from, uh, wait, didn't they die? Did they die? Uh-oh. I guess it all matter in this, but everybody died, so. Right. Diamond Dallas and Danny Trell, they didn't die. They just caught everyone and that was the end of them. They didn't show anything else after that.

Uh-huh. But I don't know. We'll see. All right. Uh, let's see. Moving on from here. The new Terminator movie is cast as a Terminator, and it's Gabriel Luna. And the only thing I recognize him from, he was Ghost Rider on the Ages of Shield Show.

Okay. I wish I had a word to say about that. Theo, what did you think? Did you watch that? No, fell off a little. I really wanted to catch up, too, but just haven't fitted in yet. they got they got some good people for this terminator movie they got tim miller directing he directed first deadpool uh james cameron producing linda hamilton coming back is arnold's in it yes of course okay cool then i'm down

is this going to be off of uh after genesis or just this is this is after a t2 uh after t2 nothing else exists right no no it no forget about those other ones Nope. No, any furlongs. Is that good? No, no crow. He's probably a crackhead at this point. I know.

Oh, boy. He's in the same band with McCulley Culkin somewhere. Ouch. How big is that? The new Terminator, it's due November 22nd in 2019. All right. And our last bit of news, pretty much almost, confirmed, but right now they're saying final negotiations, but Jessica Chastain, James McAvoy, and Bill Hader are set to be in Itchapter 2.

Why not? Cool. They can get whoever they want. Might as well get some of the best. James McIvoy, that is awesome. Yeah, it said James McIvoie will be Bill. Bill Hader will, of course, be Richie, and Jessica Chastain will be Bev. Oh, I love it.

And IT director, Andy Mochetti, is also returning to direct. Nice. Who else could? And that is all the news we have. All right, Theo, you're up in the northern part of California? Yeah, that's right. Eureka, Humboldt, North Coast. Yep.

So do you ever have any white trash hooligans up there that shout, Eureka! I'm headed to the trailer park. I'm sure we do. All right, well, then let's go. there. I'm going to talk about the toy box starring Denise Richards. Yes.

Directed by Tom Nagel. People don't know Tom Nagel. He did Clown Town. Oh, never heard of it. Yeah, we watched the Shetler Report. I remember. Okay. I don't remember it.

Continue. Who else is in this? There's somebody else. Any thoughts? Let's see. Misha Barton, which I've heard the name, but I have no idea who, I have no idea who. It was like, Misha Barton and Denise Richards, what the fuck year are we in? Right.

Who is, who is Misha Barton? She was a little girl that was under the bed in the sixth sense, the one that her mom was making her sick. Oh, she was. She was in some WB show, too, wasn't she? I don't know. I think she was in one of those, like, gossip girls or something. One of those. Well, she's in this, so.

She's supposed to be at a Friday. I got that too. Oh. Well, all right. Off of the six cents? I don't know. Maybe this movie. So I'm taking to nobody cares about the toy box.

Yeah, plus they didn't really give you much to go on in the trailer. Like, it looks okay. But just based on the casting alone, I'm like, I don't have high hopes for this one. All right. Moving on to the next trailer. We're going to be talking about the Klan. Starring Johnny Gilecki and Angelica, he directed Miller. The Klins.

This one looks cool, man. Definitely different and interesting. Yeah, I couldn't tell if this is, does this seem more comedic to you? I don't know. It seems very indie. Maybe indie, indie out there comedy kind of thing. Sort of like a Swiss Army Man. Okay.

Yeah. I was just saying. This is with Leonard? Yeah. Okay. I didn't watch a trailer. Yeah. It looks cool.

He like, so they, he starts a new life. He goes out into the, they're trying to reset their life, basically. They go out into the woods for some little retreat. the crazy lady who runs the wood, who is that? That's somebody. Angelica Houston. There, there you go. So she's running the place and she comes out screaming or whatever,

and they have to drink these like four what looks like vegetable juice things by the end of the day. She's on a juice diet. Yeah, it's what it looks like. And then they puke up apparently some little monsters. thing that's kind of cute and gross all at the same time and that apparently is all of their negativity that is projected into this little thing i don't know where it goes from there but it's won some indie awards so we'll see how it works big bang to this yeah it's it's it's weird it looks interesting though it looks funny to me yeah angelica houston you can't go wrong you know yeah

i'm just waiting for him to pop up on uh rosanne oh he used to be on that dude didn't he? I can't believe he's not already on it. They teased and they showed him in one of the trailers. He's got to be in there. Yeah. Yeah, he's got to come back. All right.

The cleanse. No release date. No release date. It's supposed to come out this year. Right. On to our final trailer, which I believe we all saw this in the theater. Could be wrong. The Meg starred in Jason State,

and Ruby Rose, Rain, Wilson, Cliff Curtis. and Bing Bing Lee, directed by John Turtle Tau. What did you guys think of the Meg? I can't wait. This is fucking awesome. Right? It looks like Deep Blue Sea. Like, exactly.

Deep Blue C. That's what it looks like. Except instead of Samuel L. Jackson is Jason Statham. This better be 3D2. Yeah, I'm sure it will be. Maybe Statham will get eaten halfway through it. I hope not. he's gonna he'll he'll get eaten and then kick that shark's ass from the inside

oh no like uh he's doing in the shark nato this yeah this looks like shark nato to me nez dude i don't care about this shit at all dude a smaller shark that you could actually see you know really happen that's scary but this is just dumb uh me i like it i can't believe they haven't made a megaladon movie already um i'm sort of excited about it okay Well, Cliff Curtis has to get some work now that he died off in the Fear of the Walking Dead, I guess, huh? Yeah. Spoilers.

No, it's two years ago, dude. I'm still on first season. That means you're not going to watch it. Me neither. Hey, I'm loving it. But this movie sold me with Ruby Rose and Sharks. Right. Right.

Ruby Rose, Jason. Jason Satham, man. That's fucking all you had to say. Yeah. It's a good cast. I'm just fucking with you guys. It's going to be a lot of fun. And giant sharks.

Yes. I love sharks, so I'm all on board. I mean, I sat through one of those last two shark movies, the shallows. Yeah, that was good. 47 meters down wasn't. Oh, yeah, many more. The shallows was good. I did like that one.

You did? Yeah. It was okay. The whole dream sequence. Come on, dude. Yeah, I liked it. Ouch. All right.

The Meg, August 10th. It's our final trailer. All right. So now we come to our most interactive part of the show, which we, we, actually, I think this is my favorite part of the show instead of cool of the week. Yeah. And it's, yeah, feedback. Philip, we got any this week? The Nez, buddy.

You said, the descent 10, a quiet place, five. Ooh. If you listen, if any of you are listeners of the East Society, I mean, the Zisu and I both saw it, we were totally different ideas. But for me, I thought it was a little dry. I mean, I liked what they were doing with it, but I would just kind of like, I wanted a little more. I wanted, it's an alien invasion movie, so I wanted a lot.

more of that, a little more explanation. And I don't know, I just, I wouldn't wanting to love this movie, thinking it was going to be one of the best movies of the year. And I left like, man. It was. It was all right. No, dude, it was eight and a half out of ten, man.

What are you talking about? I don't think so. But that's my opinion, everybody. Yeah, my second favorite movie the year so far after Ready Player 1. Well, right now, Ready Player 1. is in the lead, but I'm hoping Solo will knock it out of that place. But I'm not expecting it.

This kid looks about as much like Han Solo as Chris Rock looks like. Oh. What am I trying to say here? I don't know. I was going to let you finish because I was curious where you were going. We talked about it. Yeah, like I said, the Zisu here, he liked it more than I did. Hey, Theo, let everyone know what you thought about it.

Quiet Place? Yeah. Yeah. I just, I think I loved the theatrical experience of it, just the effect. I mean, of course, it's called The Quiet Place, but I think you just don't realize that you're going to have to be so quiet in the theater. And I was thankful the audience, you know, was well-behaved enough to participate. But yeah, it's just like every little piece of popcorn. people are eating in the audience. So I liked it from that standpoint. I do, I get that, you know,

maybe if it's an R, you know, they can do a little more. But, you know, for what it was, I really appreciated it. Yeah. Even Brian's theater seemed to stay quiet during that one, which tells me a lot about what this did to audiences. Right. In Alaska? Definitely, I appreciate everybody for that. He's got a chaotic theater. here. Brian, did you listen to

Geek Flicks with the League of Geeks guys when they were talking about? Not yet. All right. Well, I won't spoiler for you.

Listen to it because it was hilarious. Okay. Because I've talked to Steve. We've had similar audience experiences. When Sean starts

talking, dude, it was the best. So I won't ruin for you. Okay. Well, we got a little more

quiet. place listener feedback from Ryan Stevens. He says it sounds like about on your level, Kev. It says a good movie. I liked how they kicked it off. The ending was good and they built some solid tension in the interim.

But you can't tell me that a bunch of idiots lasted 470 days in the apocalypse. The pregnancy was the kicker. As if raising a child in that particular apocalypse made any fucking sense. Oh boy.

I, I, that was, that was one of my points. I was like, why? Why would you get pregnant right now? That seems like a terrible idea. Well, sometimes beyond their control, man. I mean, I mean, I don't know. Look, they got stairs in the house. They could have went back to that drugstore, man, because it was still full of bills and everything.

I'm sure there's a whole shelfful of condoms. Maybe, maybe the rubbers were all gone, Nez. Those went first. Right. And his pull-out game sucks. He was like ODP. He liked it raw. I guess.

Oh, boy. And then a brand-new listener, Robin Goodfellow, says, I wanted to. New listener. We love that. She says, I wanted to like it, but once it started breaking its own rules, I got super bored. Overall, it was okay, but it really fell apart towards the last act. It made no sense at all. But my podcast partner said they were Christian.

so they probably didn't believe in birth control. But even then, this wasn't the best concept. The movie broke its own rules about the sound thing constantly. What do you guys think about that? That's pretty controversial. I don't know that they broke their own rules, did they? I don't know if they did or not either. I mean...

I mean, the aliens had like these super sensitive ears. Right. And electricity alone lets off the sound. Yeah, the hum of the electricity. Yeah, and I was like, why didn't they hear that? But you can drop a... Whatever, I don't know, they drop so many things in this thing. Yeah, but maybe the electricity was more of like a constant.

It was kind of like always there under the surface. Kind of like that water that was... Yeah, okay. All right, I'll buy that. Yeah, I mean, there were a couple of small plot holes, but I felt like the movie was good enough to get past it. one of them being the electricity. How, like, how did it get there if everybody's fucking dead?

I mean, I don't imagine they're running a generator. Those generators are quiet, are they? No. Remember the Renaissance Festival? That asshole that had that generator running. Oh, yeah, all night long. Yeah, well, there was a lot of substances during that, so. Let's see, regarding Ready Player War.

Real quick. Oh, yeah. Real quick. Robin Goodfell, everybody got to check out her podcast. It's called Drunk in a Graveyard. Ah. I'm adding it right now. I'm mad that we didn't come up with that.

Yeah. We suck. Well, we'll be drunk in Texas. How about that? Roger that. We'll go find a graveyard to be drunk in. Why not? Or drunk in a hotel.

You guys am freaking out. Let's go back home. All right. Regarding Ready Player 1, Ryan Stevens, he says, Ready Player 1 was one of the purely fun movies I've seen in a while. I loved it. I also find it funny that the 11-year-old Korean kid, who cursed at me in Broken English during the DOTA 2 matches, is one of the protagonists. Okay. I would guess that's probably the wrong kid. Although, could be.

Let's see. Russell Jeffrey Banks. There's our man from Who's Watching Oliver, a movie that I think we're all pretty excited about. We did an interview with him. Go check it out if you missed it. He says, enjoyed a great festival run,

winner of 12 best feature awards as well as myself winning for four best actor awards and a handful of other awards for the film. They've got so many awards he doesn't even know what the hell they are. They're just... Yeah.

Who's watching Oliver tells the story of a mentally unstable serial killer falling in love with the beautiful Sophia, played by the wonderful Sarah Malacool Lane. I don't know what her name is, but she's hot. I remember that.

Well, I don't have the best track records with names, so. Directed by first-time director, Richie Moore, who has over 20 years experience behind the camera working on Hollywood blockbusters, such as The Hangover 2 and 3, Mission Impossible, Marco Polo, gold, no escape, and many, many more. So far, we've had a truly unbelievable response from the critics, and we couldn't be more appreciative of the reviewers and magazines and magazines and, and podcasts who have shown us all the love. Please check out the trailer for Who's Watching Oliver coming summer 2018. Finally, we get a fucking release date. Yeah, it's about time. Yeah.

And he wouldn't tell us the production company. I'm expecting Blumhouse, but we'll see how it goes. Let's see. Stephen Loeb-lad was watching 80s movies. Shout out, right, Nez? Hell of good. Yeah, okay, all right, all right, all right. say one more time keb what was your response to the gate hell o good hell o good i got two words for you

uh alan easterling uh this movie is fun stephen loblad says taking advantage of my free week of shutter before i cancel it which i haven't done because i'm lazy uh uh eddie ramirez says that fucking movie was shit back in the day yo oh was my shit back in the day yo okay that changes it completely I was about to say yeah

Matthew Tangan says I love that you read it I know right phrasing Danny Bennett says the gate hell yeah killer Dorffs let's see Ryan Stevens says the remake

of the maniac was better than the original. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Theo, have you seen either of those? I know you're not a horror guy. No, I actually haven't. Kevin, you have, right?

What was it again? I'm sorry. Maniac. Which one? Well, the controversy is what's better, the original or the remake? The original one's a million times better, but I did like the remake. Yeah, I did too, man.

with Elijah Wood, right? Yeah, I mean, with that one, I liked how they filmed it. I mean, they never really showed Elijah unless he was staring in a mirror or something. I like that aspect of it. It wasn't as brutal as the original one. But I enjoyed it. I know a lot of people didn't, but I like it for what it was. Plus, I love Elijah Wood.

You guys heard the story. It's because he had pretty eyes. Oh, that's right. Right on, Elijah. I may need to watch that, man. I've never seen either one of them. Watch the original first. All right.

Right. Let's see. Our really good friend, Art Callie, says, Happy Birthday Philip. Thank you, bud. It says, hope you're having a great one, man. All right. I did.

But a pretty good birthday week. Patrick Clear says a big happy birthday to the DJ of Horror, Philopensley. I'll take that. That's going to be my new nickname. That's it for this week. Thanks to everyone who reaches out for us. We love your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com.

Also, don't forget, we're still running the contest, so be sure to give us a five-star rating on iTunes. And what can they win, guys? Cousies. Cousies. We got t-shirts. We got all kinds of shit. We've done to match you.

We've actually got a conundrum because somebody left us a five-star rating, but they didn't put their name or an actual review. So I don't know if they meant to write a review. But whoever you are, if you gave us five stars, email us at the horror returns at gmail.com so we can know who the hell you are. We can get your coozy to you or t-shirt. Yeah, definitely. And a bonus.

Any of you that go to Texas Frightmare? was it next month a couple weeks yeah a couple of weeks yeah come up to come up to me and uh I'll buy you a beer oh uh oh first first person

not not everyone that comes up to me the first person I'll buy that would be awesome right we I you know what come come tell us what's up we'll have beers in the hotel room all right we can party the flood gates have opened

So that's it for listener feedback. You're going to do Rampage first? Yeah, since you guys have, you got family over there, Nez, I know you, Theo, you saw Rampage? Yep. We just got out a couple hours ago now. All right, here we go. You guys ready? Yep.

All right, director Brad Payton, also known for San Andreas and Encarnu. Well, that makes sense. Out. No, the San Antonio's part. Yeah, but incarnate. Yeah, that was bad. Was that our least favorite? Or second to least favorite?

It definitely made the list. It was second. Oh, it lost to the Kevin Bacon movie. Oh, I don't know. They were both pretty bad. All right. Writers, and this is the kiss of death for me, guys. Writing by committee.

Ryan Engel, Carlton Cuse, we know our good friend Jack Falvey loves him from Lost, Ryan Condal, and Adam Zittkill, I can't even pronounce it. He's got way too many consonants. All right, now the trivia that you guys knew I would bring up. Both Dwayne the Rock Johnson and Jeffrey Dean Morgan have been in Star Trek series. What? Yeah, The Rock was the champion. in an episode of Star Trek Voyager.

What? And Jeffrey Dean Morgan played a Zendie Reptillion in Star Trek Enterprise. Huh. Why did I not know that? And this is where we go way off the tracks from what the actual game was. I don't know if I need to say spoiler alert or not. But in the actual game, Lizzie was a human. Just like George and Ralph used to be, she mutated into a giant lizard,

not a freaking crocodile, the experiments from Scum Labs. However, in this adaptation, Lizzie was always a normal crocodile until she mute. So this is my biggest problem with the movie, but we're not going to start with me. We always start with our guests, and Nez, you're kind of like a regular host.

So Theo, what are your opening thoughts? We talk about it without any spoilers, and then kind of round table a little bit and get to our scores. So you get to go first. man. Yeah, sounds good.

I think I'll build it up a little so then you can tear it down, Rampage style. Nice. Yeah, I liked it for what it was. Honestly, my expectations weren't that high,

and I knew it was, you know, popcorn-type film. So I really, you know, it didn't disappoint me because I didn't have that high expectations for it.

I thought, you know, the Rock did his thing. Jeffrey Dean Morgan was cool in it. But yeah, I mean, that being said, it definitely had its issues. We talked about that, like you just mentioned, the whole Lizzie thing. And, yeah, easy things that they could have easily done, but chose not to and went a different way. It's hard to say why, but yeah, that's... My opening thoughts on it. Naz?

Oh. Yeah, before we get into spoilers, man, this movie was trash. Wow. Strong words, man. I was so disappointed in this. I mean, I love the rock. I always love everything, not everything, but majority of what he did. He just did Jumanji, which was amazing.

Mm-hmm. And a skyscraper looks cool. I'm hoping it's going to be cool, but I don't know. I'm starting to. I don't know after this one, but... Uh-oh. I'm old school. I love the game, and this was not the game.

This was not the game. Yeah. Not Triple H. I mean, this is the video game is what I'm talking about. Yeah, no, this was a big disappointment, man. I expected the plot line to be what the game was. Yes. The game didn't have a plot line?

Oh, yes, it did. Yes, it did. Fucking monsters. destroying shit, man. Except that they were people. Well, no, we'll wait to spoilers on that. But, I mean, yeah, with Lance said, I mean,

in the game, they were humans. And this, they were just, I don't remember seeing no albino ape in the game. There were humans that were experimented on by this dirty laboratory. Oh, God, damn it, not in freaking space.

Why the hell? Well, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Nass. That was the first year. Yeah, exactly. I mean, they could have made the movie like that, but then made them be experiments that they went wrong. And then I would have been all right with it. I would have loved that more because it would have been more true to the video game. But from what I understand, the Zsu told us that there's a new video game, a new rampage that goes with the movie.

Why? I didn't know. Something that's a winner. I didn't even know that. I mean, Theo, you could probably... Yeah, it's actually at Dave and Busters. It's exclusive to them. They seem to be the only one

like pushing to arcade these days. Yeah, they did it for Tomb Raider, and now they're doing it for Rampage. So, yeah. There's definitely some Dave and Buster's product placement in this one. Yeah. Yeah. But...

And Ford. I was... I was... I remember when the trailers for came out. I was, oh, yeah, sweet. And I loved this game. It could be awesome. The rocks in it. And I was falling asleep.

Really? Yes. Yeah, that I don't believe. Come on. I mean, for real. I mean, we got another special guest here. He'll come on and give his two scenes, his two cents, our brother Joel. But I was, man, I was falling asleep. And I was like, come. I mean,

not during the action, like when there was all the talking and everything, before they got to Chicago. During the rampage. Oh, man. Dude, you're being harsh, man. Come on. But like I said, I love the rock, and he's put out a ton of good stuff. And yeah, he had put out a ton of crap as well.

But I wanted so much more. I mean, if they were to just stuck with the original video game storyline and just did what we saw, I would have been all right with it. But I was disappointed. Yeah, that's my thing, too. I love the rock and anything that he's in. And I loved him in this too, man. I got to tell you, I thought he was fine. I thought that the storyline from start to finish

was one of the worst written stories I've ever had to slog through. The monster battle sequences were fun. I had no trouble with the CGI. I had no trouble with the graphics. I really enjoyed watching the fight sequences. but I was just so offended that they completely changed the storyline. In the beginning, and like you said, Phil, first five minutes, so it's not a spoiler. So I'll talk about it now.

Why would they be doing those experiments in space? What's the deal? It's not illegal in space. Right. Because they were bad people, obviously. Why didn't they just go out to international waters then? They didn't think of that. Or just do it on the under, like they do everything.

Because that's how you wind up. with the Meg. Okay. Yeah, this is probably the worst written script and most predictable, because I knew every beat of everything that was going to happen. And my prediction, my prediction was spot on. Jeffrey Dean Morgan was nowhere near this movie. And I'll tell you why.

Because this movie was dominated by fucking Nigan, literally. Oh, yeah. Good call. Even Jeffrey Dean Morgan. He was playing. He was Negan. I wasn't mad at that. I was super mad at that, dude.

Everything he does from now on is going to have a little tension of Nege. I hope you expect that. I hope not because he was great as the comedian. Yeah. You know, why is he going to, you know what? That's enough for me for opening thoughts. Who's next? I'll go.

I'm with you guys. I love the rocking this. I'm pretty much, if the Rock's in it, I'm going to go watch it. But with the exception of the last 20, 30 minutes, I was fucking bored with this movie. Jeffrey Dean Morgan, yeah, he was Needing it out all over the place. And I did kind of like that. He's Cowboy Negan. Yes, thank you. Cowboy Negan.

Naomi Harris, as the Rock's co-star, is fucking, I didn't understand what her the character's purpose in this movie, not one bit. She was pretty weak. She was a scientist, but she didn't know what to do or how to cure nothing or I don't know. She knew that. All the female characters are horrible, man. Yeah, Mal, Mal, I don't know how you start to finish, man. I don't know how you shared up.

Malin Akerman. I used to love her, man. She's usually funny. Ackerman and Jake. They should have kept. Brian, you still there, buddy? Hello? Yeah.

Do we have a delay, or were we just talking at the same time? I think you were talking at the same time, and you both kind of kept something. Okay. Yeah, her and her... Yeah, her and her brother, they were probably the most pointless, useless villains I've ever seen in a movie. Terrible. That did absolutely nothing. The CGI...

Worse than Julian Moore in that damn British spy movie we saw earlier, like six months ago, whatever the hell it was. Atomic blonde? No. Julian Moore, the terrible, put the guy in the meat grinder and made hamburger out of him. I'm thinking what the name. Terrible villain. See how I already forgot. Yeah.

The CGI I didn't have a problem with. I thought when you first get introduced to George, I thought the CGI looked really, really good. And pretty much, that's all I have to say about the Joe Maganello. I didn't understand why he was in the movie. He was in the movie for like five minutes. Don't say it. Don't say it. Don't speak it.

The bye-by man, too. Yeah. Besides the last 30 minutes, I was bored. That's why I was falling asleep. I've heard that a couple of times. You know what? I kind of enjoyed it for what it was. I wasn't mad that they changed the really loose fucking plot line.

of an 80s 8-bit video game, you know? Wow. Where the plot... No, dude, I used to love Rampage, man. I played these shit out of that. But the point of Rampage was not the plot behind the people, except that, you know, when you die, you turn into a little guy and you, like,

kind of walk off the screen or whatever, which was fun. But... But aside from that, the plot was really just to break shit. Nez, hold my beer. I like go after Phil here, man. To break shit and eat people, right? And I thought that they did a great job of that, especially during the big rampage scene

towards the end of the movie, which was actually really the last, like, third of the movie. And they did that part justice, man. They had them jumping from building to building, you know, throwing helicopters, fighting tanks. You had two of them on a building at the same time, like actually punching in and reaching for things on

the inside. It was very video game-esque. You had the girl in the red dress. There was a few little Easter eggs in there. I don't know if you guys noticed the there was a rampage arcade game in the background. How could you not notice it, Philip? The evil layer.

The new Ford Bronco looks pretty fucking cool, got to say. great advertisement for it right yeah yeah they Ford definitely had a hand in this man they were a product placing the shit out of their stuff wow you guys are already talking me down off my score but it was still look pretty cool man I was definitely impressed by that bronco I was like is that custom of shit or what I actually looked it up after the after the movie and I was like oh that's the new bronco I like it um the rock was the rock was the rock

man, this was San Andreas, but with monsters. It was the same, yeah, it was the same disaster movie that they've done that the rock has been in for, you know, four or five movies. And it just had monsters in this one. But it was fun, you know. I enjoyed it. I wasn't looking too deep into it. It was a whole lot of cheese, man. There were some corny-ass lines.

Jeffrey Dean Morgan delivered half of them, but I thought he did it really well. I'm not sick of Negan yet. I'm really not like I'm sick of him on the fucking show, but I'm not sick of the character. And if he plays Neegan for the rest of his life, I'm okay with that. And I'm sure he will, huh? I think that he will. I think that he's found his niche. He did a, like, you know, Johnny Depp after he played in Pirates of the Caribbean,

Everything that he's played since then has had a tinge of Jack Sparrow. Are Neil Pirate. Yeah. Now Jeffrey Dean Morgan, everything that he plays from now on is going to have a little bit of Negan. All right. I want to hear a little bit more from Theo because I think you seem to have a little more fun than most of us did, man. Yeah. And I think it was all just about the way I approached it.

I really, the expectations were low. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, like I said before, once we talked it out, definitely had issues with it. And, you know, I didn't, you know, love, love, love it. But, you know, for a popcorn movie, I mean, yeah, I mean, that's what it is.

And, you know, you go to see The Rock. And, yeah, honestly, I wasn't even expecting that much Jeffrey Dean Morgan. And for what he did, yeah, I wasn't sick of the Negan thing. yet either. So, yeah, I was good with that. Cool. How cool was the wolf? I mean, we'll get into it a little more during spoilers, but... You mean the design and the graphics and everything? Ralph, yeah. Very cool. Very cool. He was always my favorite character anyway, so I really liked him in this movie.

Yeah, I had no problem with any of the CGI. I really enjoyed that part. I mean, yeah, I mean, I liked all, I mean, all the CGI. The only CGI, the only CG is, the only CGI that I really didn't care for was George. You didn't like George? Only because on how War for the Planet of the Apes, on how such an amazing job they did with that. True. And this was, it was good. I'm not saying it was bad, but it just

wasn't War of the Planet of the Apes and Gorilla good. Yeah. I said, I liked it. I liked everything when they were, when they were rampage in and everything and the space stuff in the beginning. That's only like maybe a couple seconds of it. Sure. I liked what they, CGI-wise,

I thought they did an amazing job. I mean, when we get into spoilers, there was one scene that I was getting dizzy at. Okay. But yeah, I mean, it's just,

like I said, I'm an 80s kid. I was such a huge fan of the video game. I love playing that game. And they did the game, no justice. Well, maybe Andy Circus wasn't available, you know? I was more connected to George than most of the characters in the movie,

which is not necessarily a bad thing. I'm just saying. George kicked ass in this movie for me. He was it. I was connected. Well, it sounds like we need to get our scores and spoil. What do you guys think? Yeah.

All right, Theo. We go from 1 to 10 here, man. What's your score? All right. I'm going to give it a solid four. And, you know, that sounds low. It sounds low, but for me, a four is still watchable. A four is still watchable.

For me, you know, one or two, that I'd say no, but, you know, four, right? Solid four. Wow. When our champion for the film is giving it a four, where can we go from here, Ms? Right. If he's, I mean, Theo here liked him more than I do. did. And if he's saying four and I thought it was

trash, he can't base it off of that. I mean, initially, when I mess with Brian after you guys have recorded yet, and he's like, yeah, come on. I'm like, okay. And as when we get into spoilers,

I'll get into a little more, but I left the theater. I mean, right when I stood up in my sea, I was like, man, who was trash. What? I'm going to give it a two. Ouch. guys are killing me who's next

I'll go with the exception of the last 30 minutes of the movie like I said I was fucking bored I felt like you know that scene

this isn't a spoiler it was in the trailer when the rock is telling that guy don't fight it that's a big ass arm just go to sleep yeah

I love that I felt like I felt like he put me in that during the first half of this movie oh So I'm going to give it a four. That's pretty good.

Go ahead, Lance. Yeah, I'm going to give it two points for the rock, and I'm going to give it one point for the special effects, and that leaves it at three. Ouch. All right, I'm fixing to blow y'all out of the water. I'm going to give it a seven, because I really enjoyed watching this, man.

I, you know, it's not a movie that you go into the theater looking too deep into it. You know what I mean? It's a movie that you go to watch The Rock and Monsters Blowing Shit Up, which they did a great job of. I enjoyed myself. Mission accomplished, huh? Yeah. Is that a seven with the Ford Truck or without? Well, yeah.

Well, okay. To quote George Bush Jr. and now Trump mission accomplished. So I have a Jeep, and the Bronco is definitely competing with the Jeep now. And I still love my Jeep, but that's a kick-ass Bronco. All right. Which has nothing to do with really the film, but I still go to seven. No, it actually has a lot to do with the film, right? That's where all their budget came from.

Well, that's true. All right. We done? Was that in order? Spoiler time? Yeah. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right. Who's going first? Who's just dying? Joe Manginelli.

Ah, I wanted him in the movie for longer. He pulled the Stephen Seagall. Yeah. He was the executive. talking about Deep Blue C, he pulled a Samuel L. Jackson. Sam L. Jackson was at least in the movie for half of that shit. Stephen Zagall was like, I'm going to kick some ass and then died, which is exactly what Joe Mangonle. At least we got a good speech from Sam Jackson.

Yeah. Very true. Very true. But what movie are y'all talking about? Air Force One. No, no, no, no. Executive decision. Oh, that was it.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, because I didn't even know he was in this movie. I didn't either. When they first introduced his character, you just see the back of his head. Then when he turns around, he's got this cool scar. And he's a good-looking guy. I can say that. I mean, I liked him in True Blood, and I liked him in Pee-wee's, the last Pee-wee movie he did.

Oh, that's right, where they have the bromance going. Yeah, I like, I mean, I like him. He's a good actor. And I don't know what he's going to do with the, the Warner Brothers stuff, but we'll see. I was like, oh, yeah, I was excited he was in it, and he just looked badass, so I thought he was going to do something, and he did nothing, and then I was like, oh.

Yeah, they, they hyped him up so much when they dropped that line about Killers Are Us, he's the R Us or whatever. Yeah, right. And then he does nothing in the movie. Wow. We're like killed R.S. Yeah, he showed up and he's like all, they just show him from the back and I was like, holy shit, Negan got swollen. Yeah.

I call him chicken arms in the Walking Dead. He's nothing like the Negan character in the comic book. I mean, it was straight Negan, the whole movie. Oh, yeah. Terrible, man. He was cowboy Negan. I don't think it was necessarily terrible. I like it.

I like that it's a cool character for him to play, man. And I, had he done it any other way, all those cheesy ass lines that he delivered wouldn't have worked. There was a lot of cheese in this movie. That lean back that Niggins does every time he talks. And that's what he did through this whole movie. Yep. He was leaning the whole time. Yeah.

I don't think there was a scene where you're standing straight up. Yeah, I was just like, all right, come on. I mean, we already know who you are. Maybe he's coming from the set of Walking Dead straight to this one, and it's kind of hard to turn it off. He's a method actor. I don't know. I mean, I liked what was going on at the end during the rampage stuff, but in the game, you knock down every building you can get a hold of. They only knocked out one building in this.

And I was like, oh, really? What? If you made a video game, or if you made a movie based solely on the video game, would you watch that shit for the whole two hours? They could have knocked down at least two buildings. They only took down one. So they come out and they're like, okay, my sole purpose in life is to destroy these buildings and even. No, man.

I loved how they were knocking the planes in it, the helicopters, everything out of the sky. I loved how they were eating the people that they got and just throwing the hummies, the humvees and all that. I loved all that. That was just like the game. But I wanted more. And yeah, like I can't remember what we said it. But when they were climbing the building and a couple of them did throw some punches into the building. But I wanted so much more.

I wanted, they could easily did that. A few more seconds took down. one more building. And I was just like, oh, really? I mean, see, I think that's what I was worried about when I heard that this movie was coming out. I was like, how in the hell are you going to make a movie

about Rampage? I thought the part I thought was fucking stupid was how they got to the building in the first place. Oh, boy. They had bat DNA implanted in them so they would hear the sonar frequencies. How fucking

convenient is that? Wow. Well, everything in this movie was convenient. I'm telling you, you can't look too much into it. It was, like Dio said, it was a popcorn movie, you know. Are you guys trying to get me to lower my score? I'm just telling you. Not intentionally.

That's what it was. It was, you're there to see the rock, and then the monsters blow and shit up. That's what they did. And that's where all three of my points came from. I love giant monster movies. I love those type of movies. I do, too. I was expecting to love this.

Like, oh, my God, you got the rock in it, you got giant monsters. What can go wrong? I saw this movie. And then I was like, oh, I mean, they could have easily made it so much better. Made the story a little interesting, but I didn't like the alligator.

It wasn't an alligator. It was like a big giant dragon lizard. And there was no, like I said, there was no albino gorilla. And there's no flying wolf. I like the wolf was flying. I thought that was cool. I didn't like the...

And then sending the spikes out through the tails, they just gave him a bunch of shit because why fuck not? I didn't like that. The little porcupine quills or whatever it was. I have to admit, I thought that was kind of a neat edition. And then him like jumping out into the chasm

at the beginning of the movie and like landing on that helicopter and tearing it up and then jumping back off. before it crashed. Dude, the monsters I thought were cool as shit in this movie, and they rampaged these shit out of Chicago.

They took down the Sears Town, I was surprised in that. Lollapalooza eats your heart out, huh? Well, there you go. There's your building that fell. They got it, and they took it down, and it went down kind of like the video game does.

Right, right. Which was kind of neat. And then Malin Ackerman, getting eaten because those are the worst fucking villains in the history of villains. That makes no sense though. Gorillas are vegetarians. Was that the only person that got eaten? Exactly.

I don't know. Probably not. But I think that's all we saw. But that's okay. Because she was the one that really mattered. She was the woman in the redress and she was a bitch and a half. She was the worst. brother.

And then her little, was it a brother? Why was he always eating something? I don't know. He's the worst, too. I mean, you, like, such a... The scene where he was going to die. The scene, yeah, that scene when you knew, you knew exactly what was just going to happen.

It was like telegraph, but he's the fucking worst. I didn't understand. I would have loved maybe... It felt really good, though. Yeah, I would have loved maybe if the, what was it, Kate Caldwell, whatever, his, the co-star with The Rock. Right. Maybe she had like a hidden agenda and she was the real villain of the movie or something.

Oh, no, this wasn't that deep, dude. Right. Exactly. Well, and that's what I'm saying. This wasn't that deep. I mean, and that's what I went into it expecting. You know what I mean? I was like, here's the Rock and another disaster movie.

And, man, it was, it was all fluff. but it was a whole lot of fun fluff I don't know I mean I would I wanted so much more right they could have

but what's going on over there my little niece my little niece is rampage my little niece is rampaging oh she's about tear it up she didn't like the movie either did she

yeah exactly but we got a special guest here this is our our brother, our brother Joel, he was there with us

and he's more in sync with me. So here, Joel, let us know what you thought about it. All right, Joel. What's happening? So I saw it and so I'm a rampage fan. I played it when I was a kid.

So that's kind of the angle that I went into it, thinking that like, look, it's going to be a bad movie, but it's going to have a lot of nostalgic stuff in it. So I guess that's where I was coming from. And then when there was like so many, so many things that were different about, you know, they're not people.

The, the ape was the wrong color, you know, it was just like all types of, they were walking on two legs, not four. It was an alligator, not a lizard. What's that? It makes no sense. It's almost like there was a licensing problem, but how could there be a licensing problem? Yeah, totally. it's like, I mean, if you're going to slap Rampage on it, like, you're going to probably pull in the people that are Rampage fans. And if you're disappointing them, they're going to tell you everybody, it's a bad movie.

For sure. So it's like, they were really going for like, just the, they were going for the, they're casting the wide net at the, at the theaters, I think. And that's it. But I don't know. One things I think they could have made better for me was that, you know, when they're climbing the buildings, like I was expecting them to, like, punch a hole in the wall, you know, and have like a guy in a bathtub there, you know, or, you know, or somebody screaming, you know, or get shocked, you know what used to get shocked? The naked lady.

When there are naked lady in the game somewhere? Yeah. Yeah. And, or this, you know, punch a sign and get shocked. I didn't even see that. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. They didn't even see that.

Yeah. So I was really expecting that. And it could have made this. I mean, that's like, you know, David and Bust, we sign all over it or some sort of sign, right? I mean, they could have made a lot of more money off that, too. But anyways, yeah, that was my take. I would, you know, just listening to you guys, I would have gave it a,

I probably would have gave it a two as well. And that was just for the same reasons you guys gave. You know, the Rock one-liners wasn't good enough to me. I was actually secretly playing on my phone for half of this movie in the theater. I just couldn't take it. Oh, wow. Ouch. Man, I'm in the minority here.

Thanks, guys. Well, there you have it. Yay, thanks a lot, man. So there you have it. Almost everybody, to a man, with one exception, says stay away from this movie, right? Philip was wrong. I think you just really like that truck.

It was kind of kick-ass. Plus, it's got the rock, and I don't know. I really like the rampaged part of the movie. hypothetically speaking, take the rock and the truck out of his movie out of ten, what is this movie? It depends on who you replace the rock with. Oh, boy.

Because I still really like Jeffrey Dean Morgan. How about Arnold? I liked that George had a backstory. I thought that was cool. Oh, boy. George was the main character of this movie for me. And I think that's why they made him an albino gorilla. Just so he's different.

Yeah, because. the whole backstory of him being found when he was young and he kept him away from the poachers because they can get a lot of money for an albino gorilla. Yeah. I think they tried to build up the backstory for George. Like I really loved that first scene or not not the space scene, but that scene that they opened it with with her in the jungle and they introduced George. Oh, okay.

I thought that was awesome. I thought the whole backstory for George was awesome and I loved. Like once the rampage started. when they were in Chicago and just tearing shit up. I loved that scene, man. It was like sit back and turn your fucking brain off

because that's what you have to do in this movie. Yeah, since they were... I'm kind of surprised they didn't run into the Transformers. Yeah, my kids definitely love the scene of giant gorilla give the middle finger multiple times. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was...

Don't get me wrong when the movie ended. Anybody under five years old was given it a standing ovation. The best part with George was the very, the very, very end. When Rock standing there and the black chick, I can't remember her name. And the Rock is going back and forth with George. And I said this right before it happened. And I was like, man, the Rock needs to smash. And then you see George doing the.

finger into the whole gesture. Yeah. And I saw it coming, but it was still hilarious. Right. That was, to me, that was the best part of the whole movie. That was funny. Although, you know, at the end of it, when they're like, oh, well, he's good now. I guess we'll stop shooting at him.

And then there's like somebody in one of the buildings who is like, oh, I will let this giant gorilla who just, you know, tore down my building. I'll jump into his hand and he'll just put me down. You that fucking did happen, didn't it? Yeah, I wasn't sure if I seen that right. Yeah. That's like, why would you do that? Yeah, that was them giving their middle finger to the video game. Oh, my gosh.

Look out, guys. Lance is offended. All right. Well, anyway, so that's Rampage. So we're going to talk about the host now. You guys want to stick around or what? I got to get going, guys, because my mom and dad are in town. That's cool.

My phone's blown. We definitely appreciate you guys stopping in. But before we go, we got to hear again, whatever, what's the newest of the new? Because I know you guys have like 17 or 18 different weekly podcast over there, don't you? Well, the Zizo and I got two of them, and then everything. else we do my solo show the macnese and then the other show i do with blind frankinson from horocopia big guys we got another episode coming uh probably next month we'll drop that one and uh the zesu's daughter had a necessity she took a little hiatus she uh went back to germany

and uh i don't know if you're going to listen to this jade but happy 18th birthday uh happy birthday all right happy birthday yeah so 18 18 years old huh? Yep. All right. Yeah, they grow up way too fast, man. Yeah, and I'm a grandpa now. That's right. It's, yeah, I mean, just life.

But, you know, I love you guys and always cool to come on and chat it up about things that we love and things we hate and just everything else we do. but yeah if you guys want to check out out all our other shows let's go to on iTunes or pod bean skaternest podcast network and uh you'll see everything on there I always put the the links to our shows on the the horror returns group page so you can always find it there if you're going to be lazy and don't want to search but um yeah I mean that's all we've got coming up uh Theo is there anything else that we got coming I was just going to say To make it easier if you're searching iTunes

SK8 and it'll pop up So that's how I'm always telling people Yeah Find that but Yeah Just looking forward to another E Society and then we got another up to the challenge What did I challenge you to, Nez?

Some Netflix movie The Shimmer Lake Shimmer Lake, okay Yes That's my current challenge for the Nes and he challenged me to we got to talk about Kevin. Is that the name of it?

Good movie. We need to talk about. Kevin? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good movie. Cool. Looking forward to it. Unfortunately, it's a little too true to life these days, though. Yeah, it is. No spoilers, because on that show, we just give you the title of the movie and we watch it.

We try not to look into it or anything. But really quick, our brother Joel, that you guys just heard, he also has, For you sports fans, he has a podcast, and I don't even remember the name of it. What is it? Baseball bros. What is it? Fantasy baseball bros.

What do you guys cover? So, yeah, we've just started and probably, we've done about, I think, three podcasts. And we don't do too many too often, but we basically just cover just the generics of fantasy baseball. We try to keep it kind of light, not deep like a lot of the other podcasts do. they're a lot more, they do, they deep dive a lot more. And I think we try to keep them more like amateurs. So we're trying to cast a little bit more wider audience. So yeah, that's what I do.

Nice. So how long does the show run? Like you guys are an hour, a couple hour long show? Are you still kind of feeling it out? Well, I have a two and a half year old, so I don't have much time. Gotcha. Which is one of the reasons why I had a problem with Rampage. Right.

If I'm watching a movie and it's a bad movie, I feel like I'm, you know. I'm wasting my time. So, yeah, so our podcast, we actually try to keep them very short. We try to keep them within the 20, 30-minute range. Just something quick to listen to. All right. Good deal. All right, guys, thanks a lot for joining us.

Yeah, thanks for having me. It was great being on. Excited to finally join you guys. Yeah, it's about time. We'll be the last time, that's for sure. Yeah, thank you guys. And thanks, brother Joel. The director designed all of the creature's movements,

and he compared it to directing us. actor and the host is actually top 10 in Quentin Tarantino's all-time favorite films. So, Brian, you want to go first, man? Sure, I'll go first. I thought this was a really fun creature flick. I really liked the look of the creature. This was the first time watch for me. I've heard for many years how great this movie was, and I don't think they were wrong.

This was absolutely a great creature flick. A lot more comedic than I thought it would have been. Right. And it just had a little bit of everything. I was totally involved with this very dysfunctional family that a lot of the main, I guess the father, not the father of the child. He was just a mess. He was a just complete goofball. But then again, the entire family just had issues.

But I like how they came together for the girl, you know, be it the, the first. father or the aunt uncle grandfather that was their one goal was to get her back when she got taken by the monster um we get a harshal sighting in this movie from the walking dead at the very beginning yeah um and for for a movie that was very comedic it had some very fucked up parts in this um the the one of the parts i thought was really fucked up was uh when the the father of the girl that got taken by the creature finds out there was never really no virus because they had quarantined

everybody. Yeah, that was weird man. I didn't get that. They told the public that there was a virus because they didn't want anybody looking into the creature's origin because basically they had a cover up. Yeah, because if you

remember in the beginning, the creature was essentially created from all that formaldehyde and stuff they were dumping into the water. Yeah, yeah, and from what I read in trivia, when I was researching the trivia, that it's kind of based on a true event. Yeah, yeah, I read that. That's pretty fucking crazy.

But overall, this was very fun. Mm-hmm. There was like some drama to keep you involved with the characters. And usually I'm not big with CGI, but it didn't, for some reason, it didn't bother me in this movie. I was kind of all in. and I think definitely I'm a fan

of the director Bong Bong Junho Is that his name? Or Junho Bong But somebody I put like the first name After the last name

In Korea So I'm not We're not You know You can forgive us If we don't Culturally know exactly how to Yeah

I'm big fan of Snowpiercer And Oh yeah me too Not a big fan of Oak job But I appreciate what he tried to do Right But overall, this is a definite recommendation for me. You get a little bit of everything in this movie.

Yeah. Well, I'm going to say that I started out really, really enjoying the movie. My biggest problem is it was wait. It was about half an hour too long, in my opinion. I appreciate what you say about the dysfunctional family, but I thought they got way too much into the family drama. and it got a little, as we say, talky-talky, somewhat, I thought. And that kind of, eh, it bothered me toward the end.

The CGI wasn't the best. I mean, I definitely could, you know, quote-unquote, see the strings a few times, so to speak. But it was 2006, you know, so it was 12 years ago. Yeah, I definitely enjoyed it. I did not as much as I thought I was going to the first half hour. it kind of lost me in the family drama and in the length of the film. What did you think, Phil? Yeah, I really liked the backstory of the monster in this one, kind of like Rampage.

I thought they set it up nicely. Yeah, it did get a little too much into the family drama, and it's, you know, it's a Korean film. So there's some stuff that I think got kind of lost in translation. because, you know, some of the lines you're like, I don't imagine that's what they really said there. And some of the editing when they put it together, I got a little confused about that. I thought it was okay.

I mean, it was definitely a fun watch. It was good. It was really, really good for a South Korean film. I felt the same about this one as I did. Train to Hassan. Okay. I mean, I know everybody really, really loved it, you know, but it was kind of just okay for me. I mean, it was as good as Rampage, I thought.

Well, you liked Rampage, so that's saying a lot. I thought it was a fun movie, man. I liked the design of the monster. I thought it was pretty cool. I kind of wish that they had shown a little more of him. Some of the acting was a little cheesy. But it's a monster movie, you know. It looks like something that should be on the site.

It looked like a really good sci-fi movie. You know what I mean? Like sci-fi channel movie. Absolutely, yeah. That's the best description of it that I can give. Well, I liked it. I didn't love it, but I liked it. Yeah, well, sound like we recommend it.

I'm a big fan of Duna Bay, the actress that played The Archer. Yeah? Yeah. She didn't really say anything in the entire. movie. True. She didn't do as much in this one. She was, she was kind of still kick-ass, but she works with the Bukowski's a lot, like in Sense 8 in the movie Cloud Atlas. I think she does a lot of her own stunts, and it's kind of obvious when you see her in some of the roles she does. So, you know, I do enjoy watching her, and I like her as a character. But yeah, I mean,

other than that, I thought they kind of maybe tried to put a little too much into it. maybe, which, you know, I guess it was obviously successful. It was definitely an epic film that made a shitload of money over there. So, you know, who am I to argue the way they did it? But I think if it had been a little more heavy on the monster and 30 minutes less, to me, it would have been an easy, you know, seven and a half or eight. Yeah. You know, the way it stands, I thought it got a little bit bogged down.

But, again, just my opinion. You wanted to do scores? Yeah, I think you went first, right? Okay. I appreciated the, like I said, I got involved with the family and they're basically their mission to get this girl back. I like the comedy and it got dark at times. And for that, I'm going to give it a solid seven. Nice.

It's a good score, man. Yeah. Yeah, I have to give it more of like, I hate to say it, but kind of, like a five and a half. So not bad. Yeah, because I definitely enjoyed it a lot more than I didn't. But to me, it was like way overblown. I'm going to give it a six and a half.

I think they did a good job on the monster. I mean, it was definitely CGI and you could tell. It's not, it wasn't great CGI. Yeah, but I thought the design of the monster, though, of made up for it because it was different. It was cool. It was like this lake monster and, you know, under the water stuff is always kind of creepy. Oh, yeah, for sure.

They did go maybe a little too much into the family. I feel like if they had had like a big American blockbuster budget like Rampage had, it would probably be an eight or nine. But as it stands, I'm going to go to six and a half. Yeah, not bad. So we definitely all would recommend the host. And this is host 2006 from South Korea not to be confused with... Not the alien one.

You actually watched that, Phil? I did. Well, I had seen it before. I started watching it again, and I got like an hour into it, and I was like, wait a minute. If she did Hannah in 2011, she looks older in this movie. God damn it, they put the wrong year on this piece of shit. But that one, that one's a whole different story.

It turned into a teen drama thing, but it's okay. All right. Check this one out. If you've never seen it before and you're into monster movies, it's not always my thing, but it was a fun watch. All right, there you have it. Check out the host. So as always, we want to thank you guys.

for listening to another episode of the horror returns. A jam-packed episode, for sure. Yeah. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com. And whoever gave us the five-star rating, please send us an email with your name and address so we can get your prize to you. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Podbean.

You know, you know how to find us. And next week, what are we doing next week, Brian? uh we're doing japanese horror films with lots of guests uh yes the original ring and uh what is it uh jew on the grudge and then i'm confused of what this movie is called uh the one basis how i should have it written down uh the ring versus the grudge is that what

it's called oh i've heard about this one oh is that the one we're watching yeah we're doing we're gonna do the the ring the grudge right and then we're going to see them face off. Cool. I may or may not be with you guys next week because I'm getting ready for a Vegas trip. So I might, if anything, just set it up and check in and then let you guys go and come back to finish it up.

But we will have a show. Like we were saying, we haven't missed a week yet, so why start now, right, Brian?