The Horror Returns - THR - Ep.#109: International Horror - Australia: Roadgames (1981), Razorback (1984) & Black Water (2007) (Reupload)

Episode Date: November 17, 2023

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All right, welcome back one and all to the horror returns. And Lance and with me, as always, are my co-house. post Philip the Surfer, Brian the Eskimo, and tonight we've got a special guest helping us to celebrate the horror films of Australia. You guys have read plenty of his articles that we've posted on the group page if you're in the horror returns group. And you've heard us read several of his pieces of feedback, but we finally got the gentleman who probably needs no introduction, although if Philip were to try to introduce it, he would be mispronouncing your name.

Every time. Beed Germain, what's going on? Beed, thanks for coming. Not too bad, thanks, Lance. Although, to be fair, Lance, it's actually Javine, so not to embarrass you. Not to embarrass you on your own show. No, that's great.

Although, to be fair, I have heard every single mispronunciation of my name of my entire life, and I kind of just find it more fun. near down that it is to be fair everyone kind of mucks it up on the that's that's perfect so well my bad for doing it yeah my bad it's it makes it just makes you laugh it makes me laugh it makes me like that your last name man at least you got the first one right it tends to be the first name that everyone gets wrong oh that was me yeah i've got it wrong a couple times

All right, Bid, well, you're a man of a million talents. So we know you work with Marcy on Super Marcy Network, right? What do you do that? I mainly, well, I co-hosts the podcast with her over there. We're on a bit of a hiatus at the moment, but we're hoping to record some new episodes very soon, particularly a new spin-off show that she and I have been working on, which we won't give too much away of what that is yet,

but she and I are very much looking forward to it. And I also do a whole bunch of reviews and columns over there. And I also contribute to another website, which is the screencast.com, which is also a horror website and podcast. So I do, funnily enough, in theme of this episode, an Australian Horror Fiend column over there. So you can check all that stuff out there. Okay, what about this film that you directed?

Oh, I recently directed a short 90-second film, like the definition of a short film, just telling, but it's called, it's a little drama called Solace, and it's about, I guess, how can I describe the plot of a film in 90s, that only goes for 90 seconds. It's just basically about a married couple who sit down and have a bit of a chat about something that's happened to him recently, and that's all you really need to know, because there is a bit of a twist in there, but I don't want to give what that is. So,

but you can find that short film on the, uh, the Facebook page for the group, uh, fortnight films. And that's fought as in like, you know, fighting someone and night as in like,

you know, a knight and shining armor. And we also got a YouTube channel that the short films there too. But I'll send you guys to link to it, uh, a little bit later. So you can, everyone can check it out.

Sounds great. Yeah. Brian, Brian will put all the links up, right, Brian? absolutely awesome motherfucking director

on the show that's right we're moving on up I've only I've only made one film so far for I know it's probably my

first and last movie I'll ever go on this will be the beginning when you win the Academy Award you could be thanking us yes

you'll be the first part I'll give you guys a shout out for being the first podcast so I'd talk about my now directing

career in so all right we're gonna hold you to it yep All right, well, listen, I know you've listened to the show quite a bit, but as our guest, we want to ask you the question first. We always start out with what is the coolest thing besides, of course, the three films we're going to talk about the features. What's the coolest thing you've seen this week, Beat?

The theme of, you know, the podcast. I did watch a film the other day that I really liked called Killers, which is a 2014 Japanese slash Indonesian, sort of psychological thriller directed by the Mo Brothers. It's sort of about this journalist who watches this website where people post up videos of murders. And one, he gets taken in by this bunch of videos by this one serial killer. And eventually the serial killer actually contacts him. And then they form this like really kind of complex.

and psychological relationship with each other and they kind of egg each other on to murder people and all that, especially the journalists. And it's actually executive produced by Gareth Evans who directed all the raid films. So there's a bit of action.

So it has a bit of action in it, but it's more sort of this sort of dark psychological kind of cat and mouse kind of film. And since it sort of takes place in both Japan and Indonesia, it's kind of interesting. and like where it explores like its story and it comes up with some interesting themes and ideas within it as well but it's really well done and um and i definitely recommend it it's uh killers

not to be confused with the ashton butcher film just just to uh clarify but if you can track down killers um it is really cool and i definitely recommend that one for sure that's awesome sounds sounds a little like the new uh dark web movie huh It does. Yeah, well, I'm not sure how close it is in terms of the plot for this one. Well, yeah. Yeah, but Killers is actually a pretty dumb, a pretty damn good film. It's definitely probably one of the coolest films I'd seen this week, for sure.

Cool. I'd check that one out. I was going to say, that's pretty much the coolest figure I've seen this week. That's the big one, huh? Killers. Yeah, the big one. Yeah. Well, I got to start with Incredibles 2.

I took the kids to see that, and we had a blast. Yeah, it was fun. I know not horror-related at all, but not as good as the first one, but it's still pretty kick-cast. Definitely worth checking out. Actually, I did see Incredibles, too, this week as well, and I pretty much agree. It's not as good as the first one,

but as far as Pixar sequels, guys, so I think it's the best one since Toy Story Free, for sure. Yeah, definitely. I also saw it this week with the kids. Yeah. I enjoyed it. I just hope we don't have to wait another 14 years for another Incredibles movie. Oh, I know. I kind of want to see the kids grow up a little bit. Yeah.

And then I saw, I caught Tomb Raider. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know why I had been avoiding this movie. I guess I just hadn't really heard anything great about it. And it just sort of fell by the wayside. and I started watching it, and it's as dumb as it sounds. I mean, the plot's a little stupid, but the action is great. I thought she did a pretty damn good job as Laura Croft,

even though she's not like the traditional Laura Croft. But it was a lot of fun, man. It was a pretty cool movie. I had a blast. Yeah, it sure was. I agree. And that's all I got this week. Let's see.

I checked out Tao on Netfilms. Oh, I want to see that. What is that? Who is in that? I always mess up her name. Mika Monroe, Micah. I think it's Mika, yeah. The air from it follows. Yes.

And Gary Oldman's the voice of Tao, which is the, I guess it's like a smart house type. I don't want to give too much away because. Oh, that one. Yeah, we reviewed the trailer. It's pretty decent. I really enjoy her. in movies. I don't like pretty decent.

I don't like hearing that. Yeah, it was, it felt like it was going on forever, though. Oh, no. That was my, and I didn't like the main antagonist, um, he was the villain in the first Deadpool movie.

Oh, that guy. Yeah, he was just kind of bland. Yeah, I looked it up and I saw a picture of that douchebag's face and I'm like, ah,

I don't watch it in a movie. Um, yeah, if you're looking for something on Netflix, check it out. But it's okay. But the thing I really enjoyed, I checked out last night, was the domestics. Oh, okay.

So, I guess it's a mix. It's kind of Mad Max-esque-esque with the kind of Walking Dead kind of vibe to it. Right. And Philip, we talked about it, how you wanted them to kind of explain the gangs a little bit more. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. didn't really explain the gangs but you kind of get the gist of it when you get introduced to them

what they're about so definitely yeah because I was I was hoping it started with like a like a really cool narrative intro I guess it didn't do that no

yeah but you put like a voiceover yeah yeah but I definitely it's a recommend for me I had a lot of fun watching it Got to set the world. Is it like the Warriors or what? I would go more Mad Max.

Okay. So, yeah, and the worst thing I've seen this week was Truth of Dare. Oh, yeah. Not so cool in the week. Go ahead. That movie was hilarious. Like, there's a scene in that movie where a character, it's not too much of as well. It has to get really, really drug and drinks a whole entire.

God. And then the next thing, he's like, all right. I get, I drink vodka all the time and I get drunk off her to just like a couple of like, you know, like not even a quarter of a bottle. I'm like, I don't know. Anyone could like not be drunk after a whole bottle. That's just insane. Especially a 90 year old teenage or 90 pound teenage girl, right?

Yes, she seemed to be sober minutes later. Oh, boy. But this. Beijing and merging. Yeah, we've already discussed. this is this movie. I'm not going to go. Right. But this might be thinking of it as a comedy. Yeah. It's kind of funny.

Yeah. It's definitely a kind of film that you have to. It's best to watch a group of friends and get really drunk and then just make fun of it as you're watching it. Oh, boy. Yeah. I can see that. See, I've seen it a couple of times. Like, I've seen it listed on the screen a couple of times and been really tempted to watch it. And I'm like, they said it was really bad. I don't know if I want to get into this. It's more hilarious bad, I would say. Yeah, you're kind of have to watch it, wouldn't you go say?

Oh, yes. Shit. All right. Well, that'll be my not cool next week. All right. Be sure you have your handy vaporizer ready, right? Yeah, there you go. Yep.

What did you check out there? And to be fair, I'm a pretty terrible surfer, but I still get out there and try. Who else is watching The Expans, anybody? I've not seen The Expans, but I've been wanting to. Yeah, speaking of Not Horror. So they're in their third season, and it's probably the best season so far. And the show started off with a bang. I love it.

And I didn't even realize this until a friend of mine pointed out, because I've never read the novels. But a friend of mine pointed out, he said, hey, by the way, each season follows each novel perfectly from beginning to end. And I'm like, no kidding? That's very rare. That's how you do a book? Yeah, absolutely. With the TV show, why not?

Yeah, this one is, this third season, the novel is called Abadens Gate. At least I hope I pronounced that correctly. I'm not doing very well tonight on the pronunciation. Yeah, no, it's really good because a lot of the people that you meet, the first season, you've mainly got three disparate groups of people that each have their own thing going on, kind of like an ensemble cast.

And then in the second season, you see where they're getting closer together, and now where the third season, pretty much everybody's met up and they're working together now. So, yeah, it's a really good show, and they had actually canceled it, or a sci-fi network had,

and I guess, who just picked it up? Was it Hulu? Do you guess that? I thought it was Netflix that picked it up, or was that another show? Maybe, maybe, and I was thinking of it. Maybe in Australia.

You know how different countries and regions? Yeah, well, I know the expanses on Netflix here. Like, they got all the seasons on there. And when the new season popped up, it was just automatically on there. Okay. I don't know. Like, how many books are there in the actual book series? Eight, eight and counting right now.

So we need at least eight seasons to cover all the books in the series. Correct. Yep, that's right. That's right. It was. Amazon. Amazon. Okay. Oh, I like I.

Okay. I like it. But yeah, if you like hard, since we talk about zero horror and our cool of the week lately, figured I'd throw that in there. So if you like good, hard science fiction, definitely check out the expanse. And

on that note, Brian, do we have any headlines this week? First season, the murder house, and the Coven season crossover. Oh. Babe, do you watch Do you watch that show, Bid? I've watched the first couple episodes of the first season.

I've been meaning to get back into it. Like, I know from what people tell me, like, the show, it can be either, like, all over the place in terms of quality. But from just hearing the kind of the trashiness of it, I definitely want to, like, get back into watching it. But, I mean, what's great is since the Sanphology show, I can just pick and choose any season I want to watch, really. But I need to get back into it,

because I was about at least halfway during Murder House when I was watching it. And I really actually dug what I saw at that point. Yeah, I have some seasons I like, some seasons I hate. So it's really all over the place for me. That's kind of the best part of that show, though, is that you can pick up any season and just watch it stand alone. The Purge TV series will premiere September 4th. And I was going to have his review the teaser trailer, but there wasn't really much.

to it. You can pretty much, if you've seen it, you know what to expect in the teaser trailer. So, um... Not much to go on, huh? It looked like took me out of purge movies and just people

getting killed and nothing really as far as what the actual story or anything is going to be, so... Yeah, that's what I think of like, I mean, I enjoyed the second and third purge film, so I'm kind of curious, um, just to see how they're going to that story with a TV series. It's going to be interesting on how they do that. Yes, this will be, like I said, September 4th,

and it will premiere simultaneously on the USA Network and sci-fi. Hmm. Okay. Let's see. Interesting choice. Yeah, not a lot of news here. Let's see, the Grudge remake will now be called Grudge. It seems like every franchise, reboots doing that. Just remove the dirt from the title.

Yeah. The Terminator. And what was another one? It makes it edgier. Predator. Well, no. Well, the predator changed it around. It was predator, but now it's the predator. See, you thought you knew where they were going. See, that's what I think, um, uh, that the new Halloween movie that's coming up, if they want to sort of make sure. Because my biggest issue with it is like, it's just still called Halloween.

They should just call it the Halloween or something. The Halloween night. Oh, there we go. Too far out of the box. Yeah, too far. And our last little bit of news here, Jared Leto is jumping over to Marvel.

He will play Morvious, The Living Vampire in their Sony Spider-Man universe that doesn't include Spider-Man. well we'll see how venom does but i like jared letto as morbius i think that's cool yeah i mean if you're gonna cast somebody as a vampire you can't do any worse than jared letto just say right yeah i mean i guess it all depends like it all depends on how successful venom is when it comes out and if it does really well or at least do moderately well they'll be like

right okay we'll move ahead with this moob morbid now i'm getting the name Morbius film and seeing how it turns out. So, I mean, having Jared Leto and I think it already has a director attached to it as well. Daniel S. Bonanza, I think that's who's director. He directed life. Oh, boy. Wait, which one was life? That was the one with Ryan Reynolds, Jake Gyllenhaul and Rebecca Ferguson.

You know, the kind of the... Oh, the alien one, yeah. Yeah, the alien one, yeah. The one that was accused of, being like the Venom movie when it was being before it came out. Oh, yeah. Everything comes full circle then. I was just about to say that.

It comes full circle. Oh, boy. B, you've seen the Venom trailer, right? I have. The most recent one, yeah. Yeah, how do you feel about the movie? I mean, I'm still going to see it. I mean, Tom Hardy has never stirred me wrong.

And he's usually a very, very, picky actor when it comes to it. I mean, it's great because he can choose between doing big movies, small films, but usually he always brings his A game to it. So, I mean, if he saw something in this project that definitely had a lot of potential, then I'll

definitely check it out. I mean, does it have a potential to not be good? Especially since this is a fully produced Sony, Spider-Man film that Marvel Studios has no involvement with. I mean, it's possible, but

But I'm intrigued to see how it turns. But I'm hoping for the best, though. I'm going to withhold my judgment until I see the movie. And that is all the news we have. All right. Well, Beat, I don't know if they have trailer parks in Australia, do they? We do, actually. We have quite a few.

Oh, good. Good. Then you should feel right at home. Brian, what's our first new trailer to talk about this week? First one we're going to talk about is Dead Night. formerly known as Apple Cart, which I did not know that until I was getting

the information. We reviewed the original trailer when it was Apple Cart. I think I remember that. Wow. And I thought, this seems like a stupid name for a movie. Yeah. I actually

before I sat that and watched the trial, I saw it Brea grad, Boba Cranton, why the combination of that the actresses sounds familiar and then I wrote up after like, oh, God, yeah. I thought the same thing. I was like, they must really like working on movies together.

Yeah. Because, well, that's the thing since it's called Dead Night now, it didn't merely cross my mind that this was the same movie before I even watched it. But I'm from the trailer, though. I was actually, I looked pretty decent, like it has a pretty good atmosphere, cool visual style. And of course, you know, Brea Grant and Barbara Cramney, you can't go wrong there. I give it a watch.

I mean, I don't, I think they could have come up with a better alternative title than Dead Night because it sounds a little generic. A little bit, yeah. Yeah, but I give it a watch. I'll check it out. I think it looks cool as shit, man. I had no idea what the hell it's about, but I'm excited about it. and I like Dead Knight better than Applecart except that it is

the probably most generic name they could have possibly come up with I kind of wish they stuck with Applecart because I kind of wanted to know what the whole Apple Cart thing was about yeah I'd be upset if you watch the movie and there was like no apple cart in it yeah

it'd be like it's this just you know stand alone amazing movie and then as soon as it ends you're like where was the fucking apple cart? As the filmmakers will say it's a metaphor. Ah, you're probably right. Yep, I'm sure that's exactly right.

Her feelings were not the goddamn apple cart. Where is the fucking apple cart? I was surprised to see A.J. Bowen in this. I haven't seen him in anything in a while. I think last thing I saw him in I remember was when they went to the they went out like to South America or whatever

to where father had all those people in the cults. You guys remember that one? Oh, the sacrament. Yeah, I don't think I've seen him in anything since that movie now that I think about it. I can't think of anything. But, yeah, he used to show up in a lot of stuff back in the day. Oh, he was in your next?

Mm-hmm. Was he in your next? Okay. Yeah, played Crispian. Oh, that's right, of course. And then the guests, right? We review that one as well. Yes. Oh, yeah.

We've covered it more than I thought we had then. I'm having trouble keeping up now. Okay, Dead Night will be released September 22nd. And on to our next and final trailer is Mandy, starring Nicholas Cage. Nicholas fucking Cage. What? Fuck you. Yeah. Now, is it fair to say that just this trailer alone, I can just mark as my movie of the year, just based on this trailer, because I was blown away by this trailer. It looks amazing.

It does look kind of awesome, doesn't it? Nicholas Cage, man, what is he doing? Yeah. From what I hear, like, people who I've seen in the movie have told me, like, if you've thought the trailers inside, there's a lot of sense. stuff in the trailer that's in the, like, that's not shown in the trailer. That's even more insane that what you see in that trailer. Hmm. Well, I'm 100% in. I've been hearing about this movie for a while now, and the trailer just completely

sold me on it. Yeah, I had kind of the same reaction to this. I don't have any idea what the bucket's about, but I am down. Bobby, well, actually, just recently, It's going to, because I live here in Melbourne, and it's just actually been announced, because we have a film festival here, the Melbourne International Film Festival, and it's actually been announced that Mandy will be playing at the film festival in early August. So I'm excited to see it in a big, on the big screen with a huge crowd who are just,

who I think I'm just as excited for this movie as well. Nice. What did you think, Lance? I don't know. It was weird. animated sequences and like acid trip sequences and I mean what what's this movie about all I know it's got centabyte as creatures on motorbikes that's all I all I need is right yeah yeah I don't know I mean it looks like it's gonna be a lot of fun um I'm I'm kind of looking at

the uh the director here director slash writer he hasn't really done anything else I yeah he did um he did uh beyond the black rainbow I haven't seen it yet I'd seen that. But you know who his dad was? Uh-uh. His dad was the director of the Of Us Blood Part 2. What?

Cobra and Tombstone. Oh, no shit. Yeah. All right, well. That was his dad. Interesting. Yeah, Tombstone's one of my ten favorite films of all time. Definitely my favorite Western ever.

Looking at Casillas, we also have Bill Duke and Richard Brake. Richard Brake. A friend of the show. break. Good guy. I'm not going to lie. I thought I saw him pop up in the trailer. I actually

let out of school when I saw Bill Dick, because I didn't realize he was in the movie, too. Right. Love Bill Duke. He's awesome. Well, it should be a lot of fun then. When does it come out here? Or do we know? Yeah.

Beat'll get to see it in August, but we'll have to wait September 14th. We'll all be there. Yeah. I'll tell you, I'll say this guys. If you get to review Mandy, you should do that like with Drive Angry as the other film. Not a bad choice. Oh,

wow. If you do, I've got to be on that episode because I think I have a lot to say about both movies. Yeah. I love Drive Angry. I saw it in 3D when it first came out. I've never seen it. I'd love to, though. Oh, you have to. It's awesome. Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

And that is our last trailer. All right. Cool. So, Phil, got any feedback this week, man? Ryan Steven says,

I'll give it a watch, and we haven't heard back. Samantha Bean says, the sci-fi channel one is so much better, and it's the original. I know. There you have it.

Yeah, when they say a sci-fi channel version of a movie is better, you know you're in trouble. Yeah. That concerns me slightly. Regarding the new trailer for I feel like this is a bigger decision

than it should be the whole watching truth or dare or not watching the goddamn thing. Dude, it's only an hour and a half. I know. Anyway. Regarding the new trailer for the Predator, which I just caught up on

because I looked at the cheat. Stephen Loblo-Head says, I kind of dig it. I kind of do too. It looks awesome all of a sudden. The first trailer was terrible. Thomas Mariani Says

Finally a good trailer There you go Man, have you guys Check that one out? Yeah Is that the Red Band one Or the other one

That had like The big massive Predator reveal at the end of it Because I didn't see the red Because I didn't see the red band one I only saw the second trailer That came out recently as well Yeah, I saw the one that came out a few days ago

it's got the big massive predator at the end of it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't see a red band one. But like leaps and bounds better than that first piece of shit they came out with. Oh, yeah. So we'll see how that goes. Let's see. Regarding Tarantino's upcoming once upon a time in Hollywood,

Alex Tim says QT, the guy who retired, right? Did he say retired? I don't think that's a thing. Alex, come on, dude. I think he's supposed to retire. I think he's doing, what, like two more films in retiring? Is that how? I don't know.

I think, I'm totally talking out of my ass, by the way. I think it's one more film because he said he wanted to do 10, and then he was going to retire after that. Yeah. Terrible 10, huh? Yeah. I know there's talk of it. Yeah.

Whether you'll stick to it, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I doubt it. Yeah. I don't know, man. He seems like one of those guys who, if he said 10 movies and he's retiring, he may do that. He'll probably produce a shitload more. Yeah. I'm excited about this one, nonetheless.

Let's see. Brian created a poll in the group after watching the Mandy trailer. Hey, look at that. There you go. Is this Nicholas Cage's comeback? Right now, No is barely edging out. Yes. To be fair, those people who voted now are pretty terrible.

No offense. Well, here's a couple of noes right here. Stephen Loblad says, I say no, because in my worthless opinion, he never fell off. Don't fuck with the age. That is true. I won't that guy for that. Don Nellie says he never left. I've always enjoyed his stuff.

Drive angry, Lord of War, Mom and Dad. He's been there all along. I saw mom and dad. It was awesome. That was awesome. Great. Agreed. Agreed.

Let's see. See, Guy says, Seems interesting. Cage is in his own lane for sure. Well, yeah, he's kind of always. He's all over the road. Yeah. Movies are a hit and miss for me, though.

Well, look, when you're in your own lane, sometimes you're on the road and sometimes you're not. That's how Nicholas Cage drives. Exactly. Thomas Mariani says, is there a, for the love of God, I hope this is the case option? I'd argue mom and dad is a start for a potential comeback

more than a peak. A peak would be a leaving Las Vegas return to forum. Oh, probably not going to happen again. Well, I don't know. I mean, he's still got a lot of years left. He's not a young guy anymore, but he's not super old. I mean, look at Anthony Hopkins or, you know,

I don't know if he's going to end up in Anthony Hopkins, but he might, he's in enough fucking movies. Let's see, Patrick Lear says, Don't call it a comeback. And Alex Tim says might not be his comeback, but it looks like my kind of movie. Yeah, I think we're all in. I like it, man.

It looks cool. Man, he's going to be interesting. I've got to take what I said before. All these no voters are pretty awesome now. I know, right? Looks can be deceiving. That's it for feedback this week. Thanks for everybody who reaches out to us.

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And now we're going to move on to our featured attractions. And this week, it's the horror films of Australia. We talk about road games, razorback, and black water. Start out with road games. A little bit of trivia. Director was Richard Franklin. How many of these have you seen? He's not for Dick Down Under and World Sexual Fantasy.

I like this guy already. Yeah, well, those were the soft core porno movies he made before he started directing real movies. Okay, okay. But they are pretty... I swear to God. But they do sound pretty amazing and I'll have to check them out at some point for research purposes.

Right. But we have to watch them now. Oh, yeah, totally. But Richard Franklin, he's a really interesting director because he was actually a protege of Alfred Hitchcock. Oh, and it shows. And like if you watch a lot of his films, like not just road games, but also, like,

Patrick, probably, he, like there's a lot of Hitchcock influence in both those films, particularly road games. And of course,

he would direct Psycho too as well, like after road games. No kidding. Wow. Yeah. All right. Well, that's,

that's saying a lot. Yeah, he's a really cool director. And, and definitely, without a doubt, I think Road Games is definitely,

in my opinion, he's probably his best work as a director. that there's, having rewatched it again recently, it definitely you can, like I said, sense that Hitchcock influence because I know he and his writer,

they were inspired by Rear Window when they made this film. Yeah, the writer is Everett DeRosch also known for Razorback. Of course. What's that thing I was going to say? And he also wrote Patrick as well. No kidding. Yeah, he's,

like probably one of the most prolific Australian Osploitation slash horror writers that we've had. He also wrote Harlequin a horror legend of the

But who wrote Dick down under? That's what I want. I'm not sure, but I would but this is a, but this is viral research I need to find out right about that. For research research,

purposes, of course. Well, what did you, so you said this is one of your favorite, favorite of his films, right? If not, if not your favorite of, what did you like about this movie? I mean, what, what I set it apart so much? I think one of the main reasons why I really liked it so much. Like, it's actually a really cool, like, it does have that sort of like, you know, that sort of rear window vibe when you're kind of like, is the character like actually seeing a killer going around

like we know there's a killer going around but as he think there's the person who's he sees all the time like a serial killer or is it all playing up in his head and of course you can't go wrong with casting Stacy Keach in the Lee role and that guy's just like this full of charisma

and likeability and we kind of and you can't just help but just be taken in by his character and of course you know Jamie Lee Curtis is in the film as well and and they sort of really good rapport with each other. And there's some really intense sequences in the film as well.

And, you know, it's got a great score. It's beautifully shot. And it just keeps you like gripped from beginning to end. And there's like a shot at the beginning of the film, like at, at a motel that is just like beautiful. Like it's probably one of the most stunning shots ever in a horror film. And it's just, to me, it's just a top quality. film in a lot of whites. Mm-hmm.

What'd you think, Brian? Oh, I think out of the three that we're going to talk about tonight, this was my favorite. Yeah? Yeah, because throughout the movie, you just, you wasn't really sure of what he thought was happening was really happening.

Yeah. And I just love the way it was shot. And then the chemistry between him and Jamie Lee Curtis, I really liked. And there was even a few kind of I don't know if it was purpose, but there was some comedic moments in there that I'm sure it was on purpose. Yeah, I think they were on purpose. Yeah. Okay. So I really enjoyed that. But yeah, overall, I thought this was a really, really great film. Mm-hmm. I may have to give this another watch, man, because, uh, yeah. I, uh, well, to be fair, I didn't finish the whole movie.

No, no. That's always a kiss of death, right? I started it, and then, like, three quarters of the way through, it had some sort of connection problems or something. Oh, no, you missed the best part, for sure. Yeah, I probably missed the best part, and I was trying to watch it, like, with my family. I'm like, hey, you guys want to watch an 80s Australian horror movie? Which they were thrilled, let me tell you. and so no we we got through we got through most of it and then there were some connection problems and my first thought was oh thank god

because mostly it makes sense that he really loves his hitchcock stuff you know what i mean right because it takes forever to really get ramped up and going it's it's a whole lot of is is he crazy? Is this really happening? There's a whole lot of setup involved in the story. But I can see where it could be very good. And I kind of want to watch it again now just so I can see the end and watch it by myself so that I can really take it in. Yeah. Yeah, I really love the Casey Hitch's character and the way that he kept talking to his dog that he thought he was a

dingo the whole time. Was it a dingo? Was it not a dingo? Oh, you gotta, you, uh-uh. No spoilers, baby. Oh, no. That's a, that's a punchline you have to wait to all the movie, so. I was thinking the whole time I was like, that doesn't look like a dingo at all. Man, but yeah, I love the, I love the way that, and I love the title, Road Games and the way he would play those little games, like, oh, there's, you know, there's Mr. and Mrs.

uh, bit, yeah, there's Mrs. Bitch and Mr. Uh, uh, tidy pants over there, you know, or whatever. And, ah, there's, there's the, there's a slut driving on the road, you know. And, uh, you can definitely tell it was 1981 from the way they were talking, a lot of misogyny and stuff like that in the dialogue. But, uh, no, it was a lot of fun to kind of follow him and follow everything that he did. I thought it was a little far-fetched when they got into where, okay, you see this one person and you pick her up because she's put all this pink toilet paper across the,

road where you're about to wreck your truck. And then all of a sudden, is he fucking with her? Making her think he's the killer so she'll want to get the fuck out of his car, but then you're out of his truck, but then you're like, he follows her and keeps her from

dying, basically saves her life in one point, and you're like, this is kind of weird and then he runs into her later, or she happens to be at a place that he's at later where he thinks he's fucking with the killer that's in the stall in the bathroom. And it's just kind of a lot of coincidences. It's a bit far-fetched guys.

What about the guy with the boat? What was up with that? Where the fuck did he come from? Is he like a part of this whole thing? Or is he just, because like he was, the way he was driving, he looked like, oh, I'm just an idiot. I don't know how to control this boat on the back of my truck. And they, like, runs him off a goddamn road. Literally. What's up with that, Bid? Is that how far as it? I think it was on purpose. I think so. I think so. I guess that whole, like, joke, but with the guy with the boat,

that was kind of like my least favorite part of film, because it was too silly and too comical, especially in terms of everything that's happening with the rest of the movie, because at that point, it's like you're getting inside Stacey Keyes's head and that kind of paranoia in his head. And you get all these really over-the-top comic scenes that feel more like perfect in a Pink Panther. movie than they would in something like this.

I really, I don't know, I really enjoyed it. Like when he tried to jump on the motorcycle and ride off with it and immediately crashed into the. Actually, the motorbike rider, a little bit of trivia, that was the actor who played Patrick in the original film. No, no, you haven't. Okay. Yeah.

But I didn't understand the guy with the boat. Is he a part of it? Does he go back later? I think he's his slu. Well, there's actually, the thing was the ending was meant to be a lot bigger and all those little characters. I guess it's kind of a sport. And there's a big scene towards the end, which is like a chase scene. And from what I was reading on the film, apparently, like, again, as a major coincidence,

as he's sort of driving around the city after the killer, like he would still run into all those people again. And then they would show up again at the very end. So it's kind of like, I guess it's meant to be kind of like his character, just running into all these various people and over and over again. And on that stretch of highway, because I know that big stretch of highway that's the film takes place on, and it's a very long stretcher road. Like it goes all the way to Perp and there's no, like, there's nothing. It's just that road and you might get one or two truck stops along the way, but there's barely nothing.

And I mean, the chances of running into people you probably have seen are pretty high. I haven't been on there personally, but I, you know, from what people have told me, that it is a possibility that you would run into the same people if you're going along that one stretch of road for sometimes days on end. Especially when you can't get around a guy that can't control his fucking boat. Exactly. Exactly. I was, the whole scene, I was like, what the hell is going on?

That guy was pissing me off, man. I know. As somebody who drives for a better part of every single day. Right. Yeah. Some people are just not meant to drive, and clearly that guy shouldn't be. Yeah, but it really did almost look like he was doing it on purpose. Like, he was swerving and literally in front of him.

Well, he has to be a kid because he was already, he was not even on the road, and the guy was like, oh, okay. And then like, like, he looked like he was apologizing. Like he was Canadian or something, and he's like, oh, sorry. And then, like, went off the road to go hit him. I just had the laugh at the beginning when that character shows up. And all of a sudden, the truck goes past him. And all of a sudden, his window just literally, literally explodes. Right.

But I think, I kept thinking, like, why would his window explode? It's like, oh, probably a rock or something hit the window really hard. That's the only explosion. I was very confused. It looks like the guy from Quantum Leap. Yeah. Oh man, were you guys ready to give scores or did you want to talk about any more scenes of the movie? I think we're ready.

All right. What did you think, Bid? Scale of 1 to 10, man. I'm going to give it a 9 out of 10. I really love it that. I really love it that much. All right, well, on your recommendation, I'm going to go back and finish watching it. Because right now, I feel like I can't even really give a score. Yeah, you're really good.

Yeah, the score that I'm going to give it is a four. I think it had a good setup. It was just so slow. Yeah. Wow, that's pretty brutal. Yeah, I know. The ending is where they really got into the road. And what I like about is the title of the movie is Road Games,

and there's so many different games that are being played on all different levels, up to it, including the killer, you know, playing games with everybody. Well, and especially not. Now that I know that he directed Dick Down Under, I have to. You make it a film festival night or what? Yeah, we're going to do it. We're going through his entire. Who went next, Brian, me or you?

I think I did. I'm going to give it an eight. I really, really enjoyed it. I love Stacey Keach in it. And I felt like you just got little elements of different kind of movies. You got the chase scene. You got some comedy in there. And I had a lot of fun with this one.

Yeah, I wouldn't say it even has a bit of a Gialo influence in there as well, especially that first half of the movie. Makes sense. And maybe the only time I've seen Stacey Kish as a good guy. That is true. That is true. In my experience, he's usually trying to bust Cheech and Chong. Oh, yeah.

Or destroy the Jews. I turn into a lizard. Yeah, I think if I'd rated this N-81 at that age that I was, then I probably would have given it a 10 because I fucking loved these kind of suspense movies and I loved road trip movies in general. But, you know, in retrospect, it's a little bit dated, but I'll still give it a strong 7. I definitely enjoyed it. You know, obviously loved it a heck of a lot more than I didn't.

So I would actually go watch it again right now. so, you know, strong seven. A little bit dated, I thought a little bit too many coincidences in there that might not could have happened. Be the way you explained it makes a little bit more sense where that was actually kind of part of the story where he was going to run back up into everyone again

at that great finale there. Oh, and I love the part of the finale where I just thought for sure he was fucked there at the end. And then when it twisted there and he got out of it, not to give too much away, Phil, but yeah, you need to check it out, man. It's a good movie. Seven on ten for me.

All right. It's on the docket. Well, it should have already been on the docket. My bad, guys. All right, so now we're going to move on to Razorback. Director Russell Mulcahy, also known for Highlander. Great movie. What?

And Highlander, yeah, of course. There could be only one. And also dozens, if not hundreds of music videos. He actually directed the very first music video ever shown on MTV. Video killed the radio star by the Buggles. Music video trivia. Yeah, writer Everett DeRosch. You might know that name from Road Games.

A few little pieces of trivia. Russell Mulcahy said that the producer of Razorback offered him the chance to direct after seeing his Duran Duran music video hungry like the wolf. Well, it's kind of the same thing After, now hey, this is a big one. After the release of this film, Mulcahy received a surprise phone call from Stephen Spielberg, curious on how he achieved some of the special effects in the dream sequence.

Really? And last piece of trivia is Mokahehi originally considered Jeff Bridges for the role of Carl, but producer Hal McEl McElroy thought he had too much, or too little international appeal. What? All right, but Jeff Richards had done Starman by that point. Like how?

And on that note, you're our guest, so you jump in first, man, if you want to. Okay. I have kind of a special place with Razorback in my heart. I would say out of all the, I mean, I love Australian horror cinema. I mean, it's my bread and butter. But it was probably without that, the first one that I became aware of when I was a kid, because I used to live in a small country town, like literally in the outback. And when I was growing up, all of my brothers and sister, my brothers, sorry, my brothers, my sister and my cousins and all that,

this was the film that they would always talk about was Razorback. Yeah, I can picture that. And I think, and I saw a clip, and I think it was the opening clip, and that opening clip with kind of spoilers for the movie, where the razor back takes the baby. And I was like, that actually trot. A pig is still a baby baby. But that was actually kind of scared the shit out of me. And I think I was about six or seven when I saw that scene.

And because I used to think, oh, freaking hell a razor back's going to come and take me in my sleep. But as I got older and I actually did finally see it in my teens. and I enjoyed it. And we're watching it again recently. Like, I don't think it is, like, on its own, maybe... I mean, I still enjoy the film. I don't think it's a great film by any means,

but I can't deny that it's... In terms of Australian horror films, it definitely deserves its status as a classic of Australian horror cinema because, I mean, when people think of Australian horror, razor back is, like, one of the first films that they talk about. But as a film on its own,

I think it's an enjoyable film. It is a mixed bag. Like, there are things that are great about it, and there are some things that I'm like, ugh, about it. But overall, it is a fun time, but it clearly is Jaws. Like, it is the Aussie equivalent of Jaws. And, I mean, the film's nickname during production was Jaws on Trotters. That was the nickname of the film.

And it still has a place of my heart. And I still enjoy the film. It's a fun, good old-fashioned killer out animal. movie. So can we do spoilers? Like what are the things that you liked about it? And you said there were some stuff that you weren't super impressed with. Like effects wise?

I think the effects are great. Like I was incredibly impressed how the effects was still held up. Like having rewatched it again recently. And because they did create a giant bore for this film. And it does, and they did the kind of the george thing. Like you

barely saw the bore for most Yeah, they just had a giant head built. Yeah, and even then, it's like incredibly impressive on how it looked. And also, like, visually, the film looks amazing. Like, I mean, it doesn't surprise me. Like, they picked Russell Mulcai out of the music video world to direct this film. Because visually, this film looks spectacular.

And believe it or not, the film actually did win an Australian Academy Award for Best Cinematography, like back in the early 80s. I believe it. Yeah. And it just has a really good atmosphere. Visually, it looks spectacular. Some of the performances are kind of all over the place, although I guess that's kind of the one of the big,

my big problems with the film is that most of the performances, other than the grandfather who has the personal vendetta against the ball, most of the acting isn't all that good, particularly the two kind of, um, token characters. Hillbilly, but Bogan characters who when I watch the film, it's like, oh, geez,

I'm like watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 again. That's what it felt like when every time those two characters popped up during the... With his little, his little, like, pig squeal thing that he did, the whole thing. Oh, yeah, it's like, I mean, I can see some people might enjoy that,

but I think as a, it's a kind of a cultural cringe when I see something like that because it's sort of like the definition, that's like, this is like what some people think of Australia, it's characters like these two. Oh, I figured he was doing the whole laugh just because of the whole Razorback theme and then they just kind of overdid it. Yeah, like they were, they're just also very over the top as well.

So, I mean, they both play, I mean, they both played the characters very well because I mean, if you're going to do it, you might as well go full more, no pun intended. Oh, no. With their performances. but it's just like, yeah, and I think they were just a little too over the top for my taste. But, yeah, I mean, it's a fun movie.

Like, I mean, as, like I said, as far as giant killer animal movies, like, it's a fun time. Oh, very good time. Yeah, I mean, yeah, better than most of the sci-fi channel, giant animal movies, you know what I mean? Oh, yes.

I had to watch this one twice, too. The first time I watched it, I, uh, it was really late and I had been working all day and, uh, so I kind of, I kind of fell asleep in the middle of it. And I missed the dream sequence, uh, fitting. But, uh, I went back and watched it again. And, uh, man, it was, I, I was really kind of impressed with it. There's definitely a little bit dated. Some of the special effects are, uh, like, kind of things.

especially like at the end when they have a that what the hell is that plant that they have are they making pet food yeah I think they were making some kind of pet food or something like that that's why the reporter was there in the first place so oh right okay

well there's like steam shooting off everywhere and then like one of the like catwalk things falls down and it kind of keeps bouncing like it's on some sort of amateur stilt thing and then and then the giant razor back

is you can tell that it's just a big animatronic head and it looks good it's super gross and scary looking and my first thought when I saw it was well that's that's that's jaws just not quite as well done

but I I really enjoyed this one, man. It was a good movie. I can't believe I've never seen it. Plus, Razorbacks are kind of the just cockroach. Yeah. I'll say that.

Living in the country, we would see like pigs and, you know, wild pigs and boars running around. And they pretty much are. And they can be pretty big too. They're not afraid to, like, charge it you if they want to. Yeah. So.

There's always big groups of them. And all they do is destroy shit. They're not indigenous to anything. They're just pests. And like here, there's, like they mentioned in the movie that there's no season on Razorbacks. And here, there's no season on Boers. You can, I've seen videos of people shooting them with machine guns out of helicopters. Oh, wow.

Or blowing them up, you know, and there's no rule against that. so I don't know I liked it I thought it was pretty good they are pretty scary and that dream sequence was kind of amazing I'll give them credit for that man the cinematography was was really good

especially for 1981 I'm impressed I like it what did you think Brian this this was okay I was a little disappointed I wanted to see more of the Razorback throughout the movie. The acting was fine.

I thought the one actress was super cute. Wasn't she from one of the Road Warrior Mad Max movies? Was she the one who died early? No, no, no, the blonde one. The blonde one, yeah. The one that was naked. Okay. He really walked up to her while she's in the shower.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, she was in Mad Max too. I'm just looking her up now. Yeah. Oh, Wikipedia. Yeah, she was the captain's girl. Yeah, yeah. And bringing it back to that opening scene, I did not see that coming.

The way the Razorback just destroyed the house like that and took the baby. Mm-hmm. It kind of got me because I was definitely not. I didn't know what I was going to, what I was expecting. And when that happened, I was like, wow. And that's what I thought I was going to get more of throughout the movie. And it just was kind of little underwhelmed. didn't come through quite

the way you wanted, huh? Yeah. Yeah, I liked all the characters. I like the, um, hell. I'm sorry, but the two hail billies. It kind of felt like I was looking at a movie in Texas. And you mentioned the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, so that's cool.

Yeah. But, um, it's like the attempted rape and all that, that scene and all those fucking idiotic moves that they were doing. And when you went, I think early in you went into the, bar and you kind of saw him acting like idiots in the bar and does everybody in australia have a gun feed uh no we have uh not not really much any well probably more back then but now since we got gun gun laws and

stuff like that probably not as much something we probably need here in texas yeah yeah well because we you need a hunting license even even get one like a proper like to own a gun like if you're hunting or something like that. But probably back then it was a completely different story. Like they can just grab a gun from out under the counter and go... Right. And go hiding for boards. Well, it certainly looked that way in road games too.

You know, it's like the wild wild way. I mean, both these movies kind of reminded me of the Wild West, you know, the way men could act however they wanted to act. And like you said, grab a rifle from underneath the table or whatever and just have at it. But no, it was definitely a fun movie.

You can definitely see the director's influences from the music videos and stuff like that. Very visual movie, very trippy movie. I think, you know, probably would go well with some mushrooms or a bit of weed or Phillips vaporizer or whatever. But I just want to be the producer who saw this movie. It's like, who saw Razorback was like, let's get this guy for Highlander. Right. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I really. had a fun time watching the movie for sure.

You guys ready for scores? Yeah. Uh, Bede? Yeah, I'm ready. Had a lot to do with your childhood, right? Oh, yeah, well, yeah, definitely. Well, I think, so, oh, well, not really a 10 out of 10, but I think realistically, it would be more of a 7 out of 10.

Like, it is a fun movie. It does have its problems, and it's, but it's definitely, yeah, it's, be a 7 on 10 for me. Good score. Philip? Yeah, I think that's where I'm leaning towards two. I'm going to say a seven. I think I liked it better than I thought

I was going to, especially for a, you know, a 1981 movie that I'd never heard of. I do have a question. So the hillbilly guys that were trying to rape the girl at the beginning,

I mean, he ends up can I do spoiler alert? Yeah, of course. Okay. He does end up killing them off, right? Well, at least one of them. Does he know that they tried to rape his wife? I think at that point he realized it, right? How does he know that?

How does anybody know that? Somehow he sussed it together, didn't he? Well, I know, I think he finds out that they were the last ones, the Seah. Okay. All right. Well, they just didn't play that well. They're dumb. Yeah, well, the movie was slightly edited for fear it is,

Because there is, when it was released on video here in Australia, there was actually an uncut version that had lots more bloodier scenes in it. Oh, I get it. Yeah, actually, that version of the cuts coming on an upcoming Blu-ray that's going to be released in Australia. But it's only like a standard definition one because they can't get a HD copy of it. But yeah, they're like, there's one character's deaf who I won't spoil who you don't really see them die on screen. but in this version of the film you actually see literally half their face get bitten off

by the razorback. Oh, yeah. That could have been cool. Like the Hannibal style. Yeah. All right. Seven for me. Yeah, I'm going seven also.

I really enjoyed it. I had a fun time watching the movie. The acting definitely wasn't as good as the first film we talked about tonight, but the visuals were probably a little better. So, yeah, give it a good strong seven. I'm going to also give it a seven. I thought the visuals in the dream sequence was pretty cool, trippy.

I like the look of the Razorback. I just wish there was more Razorback throughout the movie, so I'm going to go seven. Cool. All Sevens. That doesn't happen all the time. directors and writers were David Nerlich and Andrew Tralky I think maybe it's Trouchy

Trouchy, okay I'm not sure because yeah I'm not going to attempt butchering anyone's name so All right well they were also known for the reef which I have seen and a segment in the ABCs of death not sure which letter but I've seen those This film used very little CGI The Crocodile was real

and practical effects were used. Oh, I like it. The crocodile appears to remain unseen throughout, in reality crocodiles and other crocodilians, if that's a real word, typically don't stay under longer, much more than 15 minutes, and over an hour in extreme cases. So Blackwater, and I think they've already got a U.S. remake.

Was that a remake, guys, or was that just a film with the same name? they managed to get Jean-Claude Van Damme and Dolph Lunger in the Vietnam. I don't think it's that one. Because I know there is a Blackwater starring then that just came out recently. I started watching that

and I was like, I don't know. I know what you're talking about. I'm watching that for like 30 minutes before I realized it was the wrong movie. Wow. Way wrong movie. I was like, is that Van Dam?

Wait a minute. Something's not going on here. But I think there is... You were able to see it, right? No, you were able to see this, right, Bid? Yeah, well, it's on Netflix Australia here, which is kind of a surprise. You lucky bastards? Yes.

But, yeah, I actually saw this when it came out like 10 years ago and rewatching it again now. Like, Australia has only made a few killer crocodile movies. Rogue is probably the best well-known one, the Greg McLean. film. Yeah. And also most recently, one that I actually did my horror down under column on probably a few months back was Dark Age, which is a really cool movie if you haven't had a chance to see that yet. And Blackwater, I think is still a really good one as well. Like what I think it gives an advantage over the other two as much as I think I prefer those two over this one, is that Blackwater is actually really intense.

because even though, yeah, it's not possible for a crocodile to be on the submerged underwater for that long, but the fact you don't really see it all that much, like again, it's that jaws approach. You rarely see the crocodile. And since the three main characters are literally stuck in a tree surrounded by water, you just don't know where that crock is, is or where he's going to pop out. And so you are, and it's intense situation where the characters have to try to get out of the situation, whether they have to actually swim or try to go to another tree, because you don't

know where that crock's going to come up. And so in that regard, it's really effective. And also, it's really well acted. The free leads are actually really likable. And you actually do care about what happens to them in the film. And I think that's the key for a film like this, is that you've got to make the characters likable. And also, they display their parts really well. And yeah, it's just a really intense film. I think the use of having a crocodile actually there, or at least make it look like a real crocodile's there. Maybe they kind of composite a real one in there,

the kind of, you know, in certain shots and all that. But I think it really adds to the more intensity of the story, and it really worked rather effectively overall. Yeah, I totally agree with you. This, these kind of movies really get me, these movies that this could possibly happen. And yeah, you're right. They are very likable, except I would say I kind of didn't like the husband, because that was real helpful that he sang that song about three cheeky monkeys sitting in a tree.

Yeah, that's... Yeah, that probably wasn't the best thing to do in a situation like that. Yeah. But I really, I really enjoyed this movie, the crocodile, I thought was awesome. and you didn't really need to see like actual gore in this one. I thought it was really effective. Just not,

that whole not knowing what's happening, but you kind of picture it in your mind and just not being able to go anywhere because they're stuck in it free and then you got a boat floating there. That's maybe, I don't know, 10, 15 feet away and you just can't get to it. You know, you don't know if you,

and the water's not that deep. you can actually walk through the water, but it's just that whole not knowing where he's going to pop up. You could go to the boat, you could go to another tree, or you can climb down the tree that you're already in. He could be right there waiting for you.

And I thought it was really affected throughout. Really great movie. Yeah, and there were actually, like, scenes that legitimately made me jump as well. And I've seen this movie twice, and there was one in particular that I forgot about, and it just made me jump again after when. happened. It was like, in that

regard, it's, like you said, it's a, it's pretty intense film, and it's definitely worth tracking down if anyone's interested in seeing it. Yeah, you guys make it sound pretty good. I think you and fellow would enjoy this one. I think I would too. Sounds good, yeah. Yeah, unfortunately, the other

Blackwater I was thinking, I do not think it's a remake because it says, Blackwater is a movie starring, and then it gives people you've never heard of, young women tourists are hunted by Ruth's Richmond in the Florida Everglades. I watched the first 30 minutes of that.

I thought it was like a CineMax like softcore the way it kind of gave a feel. Yeah, that was low budget shit, right? Yeah, because I thought, okay, it was four American women. I thought I thought they were making shit, but

it turns out they were like in the Glades in Florida and I was like, this is the complete wrong movie. That's the one. I did the same thing, man. I watched, so I watched like a good hours worth of the wrong movies between Van Dam and softball porn chicks. That had been hilarious. It's like, oh, man, this is going to be Van Dam and Lundgren taking on a killer crockerel.

This is going to be awesome. There's no part of this movie. Wait a minute. Actually, I was reading the other day. Apparently there is an actual Blackwater sequel coming. I heard about that. as well, yeah. It's got the subtitle of Abyss,

and one of the directors is coming back to direct it, and all I'm written know about it is from the plot synopsis on I and TV. It says, Friends Exploring a Remote Cave System in Northern Australia find themselves threatened by a pack of crocodiles. Wow. So they're upping the ante, instead of one crocodile,

it's going to have a whole pack of them. Oh, my shit, that makes sense. Wow. Well, maybe when that one comes out, they'll put this one on Netflix U.S. or something, huh? I think it was on there for a minute, and maybe we missed it or something. Probably. I don't know.

I couldn't find the damn thing. At least we got to watch Road Games, Philip. Half of it. You've got to finish that one. That was actually a really good movie. Yeah, I got to check it out. I only did half of my work today. Sorry.

It happens. It happens. Are you guys ready for scores, or was there anything else you wanted to talk about? Yeah, I don't really... I don't really want to spoil it since you guys haven't seen it, so I think we can go ahead and get scores. We're going to hold back a little bit on spoiling, huh? Yeah. Well, we know they're stuck in a tree, so I'm guessing they get out, or at least one final girl does.

Maybe, maybe not. You're just going to have to find out. I guess we'll find out. I definitely want to see it. Brian, I need to know where you checked it out, man. I'll let you know. Okay, fair enough. It's on my list right after Dick Down Under.

It has to be a mandatory movie brand. If you can even still find it, right? It should be too hard. You could probably purchase it in Australia somewhere, because we've got tons of unsploitation movies, like on DVD and book in Australia. So if you know where to look, you'll be able to find it. All right. We'll check it out.

Maybe the next show, Bid, we'll invite you back. Exactly. Oh, wait a minute. Which show you want to do Drive Angry and Mandy with us, right? Yeah. I'll definitely do that one for sure. All right. But my co-host, Marcy, has to be on that one, too,

because she would die to be on that episode. Oh, cool. She's a big Drive Angry fan, is she? Oh, she just loves Nicholas Cage like I do. Okay. Maybe we'll do a whole Nicholas Cage episode. Do those two in a third. movie or something.

Maybe mom and dad. Have you guys done mom and dad? I love mom and dad. Yeah. Great. We haven't done it on the show though. I think that would be fun. I love the movie.

Yeah, we could probably do those. Like those three, since they're kind of like the free kind of main horror films that Nicholas Cage has been in recently. All right. Sounds like a plan. Brian? Yeah. It's on the schedule.

Okay. Oh, you guys didn't give your scores for Blackwell. Oh, yeah. Oh. Go ahead, B. I give a bad of seven out of ten. All right, nice, nice. I'm going to go seven and a half.

There we go. Horror-wise, I think this was the more effective of the three movies. The scary situation. I don't want to be stuck in the tree with a crocodile. No shit. Okay. All right, well, Bid, tell us again, where can we find you, man? If anyone wants to find me, they can find me like all my writings and all that, my reviews, columns and also the podcast that I co-hosts with Supermassy over at Supermaster's Super Network.

Like I said, we're going to be doing some new shows very soon, so keep a look out for that, particularly our new spinoff show, which I think people will be excited about, but hopefully we'll do that soon. You can also find my Australian horror film themed column, Horror Down Under, over at the screencast.com. And I am doing a new one very soon on the 2003 zombie film Undead. So keep a look out for that. And also, if anyone wants to find me on Twitter, I'm at at Jemine. Or you can follow my...

Oh, wait a minute. You kind of fade it out a little. It's it, it's it, Bid. Germine. Oh, Twitter at B. Germine. It's like one more. Gotcha. Not German or however the hell I pronounced it. Don't worry.

You don't have the first person to say that. It's just the way to do it without the accent. Exactly. What about your movie? Where's that? I'll buy a short film. You can check it out at, on, It's probably the best place to check it out.

Just check out the YouTube channel Fort Knight Films. Again, Ford is in fighting someone and Knight as in Night and Shining Armour on YouTube. And you can find my short film Solis there and as well as a whole bunch of short films that the group has made as well. All right, nice. Cool, man. We appreciate you coming on, dude. Yeah. Three great Australian movies.

Brian, why didn't you pick Wolf Creek? Yeah, I'm surprised Wolf Creek didn't get picked. I thought that was the quintessential Australian. Yeah, I wanted to go with the lesser known to kind of get these movies out there that people might not know about. Yeah, that's the thing about Australian Horror Cinema. There's like such a vast range of films. Like, you can easily do multiple episodes on Australian horror. Yeah, I think we picked three pretty good ones.

And you know what? I hadn't seen any of these before. So very glad that I saw Razorback finally and very glad that I finally saw Road Games, because I definitely saw it advertised a lot when I was young. I'm not sure why I never watched it. It's crazy. But yeah, glad you picked these, Brian. Yeah, me too.

Yeah, I may tell you. Wish I'd have seen Blackwater and some more of Road games. You will. All right, so as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode. the horror returns. You know, we would love to hear your ideas and feedback. We're at the horror returns at gmail.com. We're on, uh, Instagram, pod bean, Stitcher.

Where else are we, Brian? Everywhere. Facebook. Stitcher, isn't that a video game, wouldn't we on that? I think so. I think we're there. I was looking at us. I saw it as on there, so.

I've been told we're on some things that I didn't even know we were on there. I think some of them linked to iTunes or something like that. So if you're on iTunes, I think you automatically get on some of the others. But whatever works, man. But Philip, until the horror returns again. Good night. Oh, man, I should ask me that. He can say, good night, mate.

Oh, I know, right. All right, good night. Goodbye, everyone.