The Horror Returns - THR - Ep.#313: Eden Lake (2008) & Men (2022)

Episode Date: May 26, 2022

This week, we go on holiday in the English countryside, and things go very, very wrong. Cool of the Week includes Love, Death, and Robots, Everything Everywhere All at Once, and Stranger Things. Trailers are The Passenger, and 3000 Years of Longing. The Podcast Spotlight shines on Wonderful and Strange. And we get feedback from Agie Teres, Steven Lowblad, Xim Vader, Ari Wellman, Mike J Marin, Bede Jermyn, Marcey Papandrea, Steve Carleton, Gabriel Theis, We have 2 more entries into the steelbook contest. AND WE HAVE A BRAND NEW PATREON PATRON, Xim Vader. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz  

This is Fiona Duraff, and you are listening to The Horror Returns. Greetings, victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify and gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language.

Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. All right, welcome back one and all to The Horror Returns. and Lance with me as always my co-hosts Brian and Phillip how's it going guys tired tired yeah well before you before we go into that I got I just got to say one thing to Brian um dude you I didn't know how closely you were going to pick these movies there's so many similarities just not only with the symbolism but it's just we'll get into it but excellent pick man. Excellent pig in many ways.

Nice. But you're being tired to talk about. I'm curious. It's, I don't know, man. It'd be an interesting night. You've been working a lot,

Brian? Yeah, I started a new job, different hours. Same. I probably shouldn't say she's a shitty boss, but fucking same shitty boss.

Right. Hopefully they're not watching. If they are, fuck them. Yeah, you're in like 40 days of day territory right now, huh? Yeah, yeah. It doesn't bother me that much. It's just in my neighborhood, everybody is out doing shit in their yards all day.

Why you're trying to sleep? Yeah. You had one guy that mowed his whole yard three times today, huh? A matter of fact, he just finished. Thank God. Maybe a little fucker will pass out now. Again, I'm starting to think he's doing this on purpose. Could be worse.

Like when there's a hurricane here and you get people running their generator, it gets really loud. Or when you're at the Renaissance Festival, Rock, Oklahoma, anywhere you hear generators, they make a lot of noise. I heard they're coming out with new ones, Philip, that aren't as noisy. Is that true? I mean, they have some. They have like some inverter generators that are not too bad. They don't pump as much power. And they're expensive.

Yeah, I'll bet. Yeah, got to pay for it, huh? Yeah. All right, guys. Cool of the week. I got a couple of them. I'll go. All right.

So I'm going to start out with the one on Netflix, the robot one. fucking what is it called love death and robots love death robots yeah so the new season came out and i checked that one out uh yeah some of them are better than others but nothing's real long so it's definitely a fun watch there's a couple of them that i loved uh the little mini zombies one i don't know if you guys have watched it at all it's like five minutes long i haven't seen any yet man mini zombies huh yeah it's just like a really far away sims type of view of a zombie apocalypse.

Oh, wow. It's about five minutes long. It's funny. It's awesome. I loved it. That one had me dying. There's one with a big robotic bear that's pretty kick-ass. It's some military guys, and they, like, nailed some of the back and forth between the guys.

It was really funny. It was great. Oh, nice. So somebody from the inside probably. made that one. Yeah. So I definitely definitely recommend that. And I also watched everything, everywhere

all at once. And damn, that's a badass movie. Yeah? Yeah. Like, I mean, I can't get into too much, but like the whole last scene or the whole third act, I guess, she has like a Google guy stuck to her forehead.

Uh-huh. Which sounds like it should be ridiculous and silly, but they have some of the most emotional moments during that. And somehow they did it and it worked and it was an amazing movie. So, very impressed with that one. Check that out. Anything else? I think that's about all I got this week.

Oh, I got real stuck off in the Michael Peterson thing because I have like a Netflix thing and an HBO thing on that. And so I was watching that, and I still don't know what's going on. What's that all about? I guess he killed his wife, or she fell down the stairs, one of the other, back in, like, 2001. And so it's like a true crime thing. And he had this big, they sort of made it out to be like an OJ-like trial, but I only vaguely remember the name. and I mean, it was 2001, so it seems like I should have not.

Okay, yeah. Does it ring a bell with me? Yeah. But, yeah, they found him guilty originally, and then 10 years later he gets out, and they were going to retry him. And, well, you know, I can't go too into detail because it's all in the movies.

But basically, we still don't know if he did it or not. Like they didn't prove anything definitively. Yeah, that's how a lot of those documentaries go, right? Yeah. But funny, he spent jail, he spent 10 years in jail for a thing that it's hard to say that he for sure did it, you know? It's possible. He might have killed her. Right.

But did they have enough evidence to prove that? I don't think so. Yeah. I guess you're, what, innocent? until proven guilty, they say. Yeah. Sometimes that works. Sometimes it doesn't.

Sometimes it does not. And drinking some nice, masculine, truly pool bullshit that's pretty terrible for the honor of our show today. Sounds horrible, dude. Oh, man. All right. It's drunk. Hey, I'm going to jump the timeline. My Cool of the Week is a movie that I saw a month ago,

but since everything is everywhere all at once, it counts. And I'm going to second that one, man. That's how fucking good it was. It might be one of the best movies I've seen in like three or four years. Probably my favorite movie since Mother. We were kind of talking about that earlier off-in. But yeah, it's got everything. I'm just shocked with how much really, really well-timed comedy.

There wasn't it. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was expecting the Jackie Chan, you know, really well choreographed stuff because of a lot of the stuff she's done in the past, like in the 80s and 90s, but I wasn't expected. She was a carching dragon, right? Yeah, yeah, she was in a number of Kung Fu films before that, before she kind of made it big.

So, yeah, it was, God, it was fucking breathtaking. You've seen it, Brian? Nope. Oh, dude. Got to see it. Well, things happen, and then something else. happens and then when you come back through the time portal and you've seen it Brian let us know okay and it'll be everything everywhere all at once all over again once again time travel

alternate universes great stuff yeah they tackle it all Brian Amityville I'm actually gonna hold off on Amityville because I think I'm a I'm gonna take do your idea Lance I'm gonna do short little reviews for them and post them Oh, nice. Time travel. But I'm going to start from the beginning. Ah, so Amityville, literally. Yeah.

The actual movie, the one that Nez gave a 10 on 10, and I think Philip, you and I gave it a 3 or something. Yeah, I'm not bigger. I can remember watching it. It's not a good one either. I swear to God, four times. Yeah. Not Brian's favorite either, huh?

I didn't watch anything. new this week. I'm doing a Stranger Things rewatch. Oh, so is my granddaughter. They've been rewatching them all upstairs. I keep hearing Stranger Things music. Yeah. I'm hearing great things

about the new season. Okay. When's it come out? Friday, Thursday. Thursday night, Friday. Holy shit, this week? I believe so. I think Obi-1 comes out the same night, too. Oh shit.

Stranger Things. I was just starting to get caught up on TV. But yeah, I'll go with Stranger Things. It's a good rewatch, you know. Show's great. You know, cast is great.

Kind of busy this week, so I didn't really get to anything. Yeah. Sounds like that job is fucking hell, man. Yeah, it's a... I get paid for what people making an eight-hour

shift for half to work, but I have to go and I had to bust my ass, so. So. Yeah. Yeah. So, but like I said, new season, strange things coming. O.B.1's coming. So probably most likely talk about those next week. Nice. Sure. Yeah. All right. Well, you got any headlines to bring? Yeah. First, we're going to start

with some sad news. Uh, rest of peace. Fred Ward passed away. Oh, wow. Oh, no. I didn't even hear about that. Yeah. Well, I had. I thought we'd already talked about it. I guess it was more recent.

I might have mentioned it. Okay. Remo Williams himself, huh? Yep. That is definitely coming to the action return soon. Love that movie. I'll be listening. Wanda Vision director, Matt Shakeman.

probably I'm going to butcher names tonight. It's going to direct the first two episodes of Apple TV's Godzilla series. Hmm. So is that like in the universe? Yep, connected to the movies. All right. That'll be interesting. Fiona Deroff officially confirmed to come back for Chuck E's season two.

Okay. That's good. We can all use more Fiona Duraf in our lives, right? She seems like a cool person. Yeah, it seems pretty fucking crazy. My wife asks me, is she on crack or something? She has definitely a good personality. She's poor right here.

I'm not sure what this movie's about, but I had to throw it in here for you, Phil. James Juan is producing a new horror film. Paramount. Rabbit, rabbit, rabbit. Sequel to Bodies, Bodies, Bodies, Bodies already? Except it's like Jojo Rabbit. It's Bodies, Bodies, but with Nazis. With Nazis?

Let's see here. Lou Fregno is set to play a cannibal pig farmer in the upcoming horror movie The Hermit. Perfect. Yeah, don't make him angry. He's still pretty ripped. Yeah. Yeah.

That guy, man, he's been around a long time. I think he was doing bodybuilding stuff in the 70s. Oh, yeah. If not the 60s, right? He's deaf, right? Or is he deaf in one ear or something like that? He's partially deaf. Let's see.

Excuse. Now, he would make a good bad guy. I'll take that. Yeah. Searchlight Pictures has acquired the horror film Night Bitch starring Amy Adams for $25 million.

Wow! Where do they come up with this stuff? Let's see. And last thing we're going to talk about is the last voyage of Demeter, I believe that's how you pronounce it. Right.

It's getting a release date of August 11, 2023, and it's a movie based on the you guys seen Bram Stoker's was Dracula. The boat ride that took him from Transylvania to to, what was it,

London or Angling? Yes, yes. The movie's got to be based on that boat ride. Okay, a whole movie on like fucking two minutes out of the film? Yeah, well, I mean, it wasn't a two-minute boat ride. Hear me out, guys, Dracula.

Fair enough. On a boat. It's already been done. It's called Hotel Transylvania 3. Like in spring break, I'm not sure I get it. A cruise? Oh, man. That's it.

It's the news. Oh, man. That's all? Yeah. All right, Philip, you ready? Let's head on down. All right. We're going to take the little trip.

Down to the trailer park. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what is our first new trailer to talk about tonight? A new shutter exclusive called The Passenger. I'm on board. I'm on board. Get it. Get it. I'm on board. The occupants of a van transporting a wounded excursionists have to avoid sitting next to her during. the trip.

Okay. That's not what I saw in the trailer. That's the right description. It's horrible, man. Was this Spanish or from Mexico? Very bad. Spanish.

They still have bull fighting in Mexico, don't they? I think so. I know they've got it still in Spain, certain areas. I don't know. the movie looks interesting you know I want to know what's going on with the I want to know where they're traveling through

because it seems to be a lot going on on this trip to say to put it mildly it looks like some good practical effects it looks like a couple stupid people in this movie getting out of the van touching stuff you're not supposed to touch oh yeah we'll get into some stupid people trust okay Yeah, I mean...

It looks interesting. Like, it looks kind of like a quirky, cool, interesting. Yeah, like, except that it's a foreign language film. Mm-hmm. It looks pretty fucking awesome. Like, if this is English, I'd be signed me up for in a second. But I'll definitely watch it. It looks, it looks throwback to me.

It looks like the movies that are. I grew up with, like in the 80s and stuff like that. You know, I mean, it's not like really a retro look, but like the special effects and the way that they're acting and reacting in the van and stuff like that. To me, it seemed really throwback to those movies, those horror movies that we grew up with. And that little needle thing that stuck out, that was a trip. So I'm ready for it. All right. Shutter, June 3rd.

Our next and final trailer is George Miller's 3,000 years of longing. This star is Idris Alba, Tilda Swinton. Synopsis goes, a lonely scholar on a trip to Istanbul discovers a gin who offers her three wishes in exchange for his freedom. Dude, did they put all the really, really good, fucking awesome-looking movies on the shelf to roll out this year or what? Because I don't know, man. It looks to me like it's got everything I want in a movie.

It's definitely got two talented main actors. I don't know who else is in it acting around them, but... Doesn't really matter. I don't know how I saw a lot of visuals. My only worry is that I think the trailer might have given too much away. I feel like I know what's going to happen, and that's not good work for a trailer.

to get too much away like that. So that's my only concern. But I'll be there. I'll be there. Yeah. I'm definitely excited about this one. It looks super cool. It's very interesting.

I mean, it's Tilliswinton. Yeah. But George Miller, you know, people don't know him. He did the Mad Max movies. So. Ah, there he is. Yeah. I mean.

Yeah. It had a fairy tale feel to it. Did you think, Brian? Yeah. Lots of vibrant colors. Yeah, the colors look fantastic. You know, George, George Miller is definitely talented director. I mean, the man did Mad Max and then went and did, what, babe pig in the city?

Lest we forget. Looks good, man. Aladdin with Tilda Swinton. Yeah, right. Three thousand years, give you such a crick of the neck. This one will be in theaters August 31st. All right. And so will I.

Yeah. Spoiler alert. All right. I suppose we'll head on over to listener feedback. This week, the podcast Spotlight shines on Wonderful and Strange, a little fan-made horror podcast, joined by her skeptical friend Cecilia. Celia, sorry, we discussed some of the wonderful and downright strange films in the horror genre. Check it out. Hmm.

That sounds pretty cool. Wonderful and strange. Yeah, probably like cult films and stuff like that, I would imagine. Yeah. In other words, the very, very weird, right? Yeah. The wonderful and strange. Right.

Regarding Jenna Ortega, Agi, Territory. says looking good girl I know I know Brian would agree yeah yeah regarding e-society podcast Stephen Loblad posted a picture of him

rocking the shirt on our group page so all right but to go nez with the easy society shirts yeah nez was podcasting when we were all burp and milk the godfather

regarding our cage Rage Week, Zim Vader said great episode. Thank you, man. Nice. Regarding horror for dummies, Zim Vader shows up again. He says, congrats to these chumps for 200 episodes. Bloody legends. Congratulations.

Congrats. Yeah. 200. Regarding ex machina, Zim Vader said, I liked it. Of course. Xmachna, it's fantastic, man. Yeah, good movie. I did.

I did watch Alex Garland's first two movies. What was that? Ex Machina and Annihilation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't go back to see 28 days later or what was it, Sunshine? I almost, because he's written a lot of great movies. Mm-hmm. So, but no, I didn't have time.

I kind of really didn't really watch these. Just kind of had them on in the background. Yeah, you just wanted to watch Oscar Isaac do his dance moves, didn't you? I have to. Okay. Poe Damron. Paul Damron. And Moon Knight.

That is. He should do that dance in the Moon Knight costume. That is by far my favorite movie from him. Oh, real quick. Did you guys check out the new Thor trailer that dropped? Yes. Oh, yeah. Last night.

Yeah. Oh, no. Uh-uh. The brand new one, yeah. We got to look at a Christian bail. He's playing the villain. Oh, then no. I didn't see the new one.

Yeah. I'm, I'm there. I'm there open at night. Russell Crow is playing Zeus. I'm still, I'm still, I'm still, I'm still struggling to remember what fucking impression you do have him, Phil. What does he say? He says, oh, you're fine or something. What the fuck did he say, dude? When that fucking light fell down. Who? Um, yeah, I can't, uh,

Christian Bell. Remember? Oh, good for you. That was it. Oh, good for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got that. That looks pretty good. And then, um, right. What was it? A teaser for the next mission of possible movie drop. I haven't seen that. That looks like it's going to be a lot of fun too. That last one was pretty kick-ass. Yeah.

Essentially everybody's back for this one and they added what's her name? Peggy Carter. Haley Atwell from the Marm movies. She's in the movie. Cool. Go to the

I was going to say go to the action returns Post the trailers on there so definitely There you go Speaking of Russell Crowe I did have one more cool of the week sort of What was that movie he did where he was it was like a road rage thing Unhinged Unhinged I watched that

It's not bad It's actually not bad But you want to talk about some stupid people Like every second of the that movie, I was like screaming at them. What are you doing? That is not the movie to make in this situation. But aside from that, tension was good. It wasn't bad. He is definitely at his biggest in that movie. Big Russell Crow, huh? Yeah. He can play the penguin now. Yeah. Getting chased by the bearded Kool-Aid man. All right. Also regarding last week's show, Zim Vader says,

fantastic. Great review of both films and great points made by all of you. I could listen to Lance talk Stephen King all day. Look at that. Nice. Yeah. Regarding Annihilation. Ari Wellman

says, so the movie is quite beautiful, but I just couldn't handle the ending. It did get kind of away from him a little bit there at the end. Did it? Did it kind of slip free at the last minute? Yeah, but I kind of enjoyed it. It just took a hard shift in a strange direction, you know. Yeah, I liked it.

What did you think, Brian? I didn't mind the ending. It just bums me out that most likely we were not going to get a sequel. Yeah. Yeah, and there's three books, and they get progressively, because I read them after I saw the movie, and the books just get progressively more like surreal. Like, if you think this one had a lot of weird shit going on, the way, the way, the writing style goes, it gets even more like sideways.

So somebody, a good director could do a lot with that. Maybe the guy that did Mandy, what's his name? Oh, yeah. Cosmodos. Maybe he's going to need to prove it again. Yeah. It could have been a one-off. It could have been a one-off.

But, no, and it wasn't that the ending was bad. it just got like it was super CGI heavy and got kind of weird. Yeah. Right. You know, it sort of took a left turn and didn't go where you think it was where you thought it was going to go. Which is not always a bad thing. I still enjoyed it, but I can see where people didn't really like it. I see what you're saying, especially the, I don't even know what it was, the thing that was imitating her moves.

Yeah. That CGI didn't look the best compared to the rest. Yeah. compared to the rest of the movie that look beautiful. So, yeah. I see what you're saying. Anyway.

Brian just added a poll. Stranger Things 4, Volume 1 drops on Netflix, May 27th. And volume 2 drops on July 1st. Are you still interested? The clear majority so far is yes. Yeah, I don't think anybody said no. Well, the great thing about Stranger Things, it sucks, but it's also kind of great, is that they don't just saturate the market.

You know, it pops up every few years and you're like, oh, yeah, Stranger Things was great. I'll watch that. Yeah, I had posted the poll just because of that long delay because of the pandemic. Yeah. I was just kind of wondering to see if people kind of maybe lost interest because of the long wait or. Yeah. That doesn't seem like it. Yeah.

No, I'm excited about it. Yep, definitely. Yeah. Mike J. Morin posted a picture of his copy of the Amityville Vibrator. Anyone seen this soon to be classic yet? Brian? I've seen it on eBay for sale. Yeah?

I don't know. You're going to have to eventually, dude. You're going to review them all. There's no way around it. Yeah, I can't find it anywhere. And there's no better way to get to completion than the ambitivirator. I mean, I just might have to tell myself, I pull the trigger on buying stupid shit, so might as well. Beard your mind says, send a copy of this to Brian.

Statt. Marcy says it's Beade's favorite. man is this not on youtube anywhere or anything like that the amityville vibrator i'm looking for it yeah i can't be on youtube probably i've yeah i've tried to you know i try to see if it

if it's out there right right i can't cannot find it anywhere that's yeah that's that's not good man i'm not going to pirate that movie you take that trash and go somewhere else let's see Steve Carlton posted a hilarious meme of the difference between Jason and Freddie. Check it out on the Facebook group page.

Oh, do you have the newest notes? Because there was more feedback on that vibrator. Oh, was there? Yeah. Do you have vibrator feedback? I'm on the newest one. I got no more vibrator feedback. Ah, okay.

Oh, did you already talked about Bied and Marcy. Never mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess I was trying to look up to purchasing the vibrator. Okay. All right. Vibrator feedback only happens when you put it up to the microphone. The movie, right, Lance?

Yes. Purchasing the movie. Okay. Just want to make sure everybody understands. We call it the vibrator and not your vibrator. All right. Gabriel Thice says a big fan of the podcast. I'm the writer-director of the curse of Professor Zardinicus,

a found-footish thriller that Dred Central calls a cult classic and waiting. I thought that sounded right up your alley, so I was wondering if you guys liked to chat about the film on the program. I'd be happy to send a free screener. Always. Yeah. Be happy to check it out. Absolutely.

As a matter of fact, if you guys log into Gmail, you will find. find it right now. Oh, fantastic. So check it out, and we'll throw the invite out there. A couple of weeks, guys, maybe? Yeah. All right, cool. I'll work out the details with them if that's good with you guys

and decide if we want to do a guest spot or an interview, and we'll make it happen. Yeah, Professor Zardonikis. Great name. And, uh, oh no, Jesus, the cops. Brian has another new poll on the Facebook group page. He says, Happy Friday the 13th.

What's the best film in the Friday the 13th franchise? Surprisingly, maybe the results are all over the place, but be sure to chime in. So go to the Facebook group for that. I honestly don't even know what my favorite is. Kind of hard to be. Like your children, right? 28 of them.

What are you going to? I mean, it's, like I watch a different one every Friday to 13th when it happens. So this one I think I did Part 8. I think Part 8 or Part 7. The one that basically has the character that's like Carrie. She has like Telekinesis powers.

Oh, okay. But I guess it just depends on what you want to watch. You want to watch the OG one that doesn't have Jason. you want to watch the 3D Friday 13 3D to hear that awesome soundtrack in there or if you just want to see some fun kills and watch Jason X

that's what I was going to say that's Jason in space right? Yeah he's killing those campers the way he grabs the girl in the sleeping bag and is hitting the other one with it. That's pretty great. That's one of my favorites. Anyway, that's it for feedback this week.

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and you'll be in the running for a steel book of Cabin in the Woods. That's a pretty damn good prize. No down. We do have two brand new entries. Says, hey, guys, I'm sending me to this message to let you know I'm officially entering myself into the Royal Rumble competition for Cabin of the Woods Steel Book. I know I didn't need to do this, but damn it, I'm going to, because Lance asked for it.

Two times two equals four. That's my favorite math equation. What fuck is he talking about? Lance asked the math equation? I guess so. You got to explain yourself, man. We have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. You're always asking for math equations.

Okay, yeah. Must be my OCD is kicking in again. My name is Tim. I'm from Australia and I love you guys. Hey guys, so I think I heard about you guys from, oh, fuck me. Hey, guys, so I think I heard about you from where I heard most of my podcast. I had to, sorry.

From the one of the only Kevin Nez. All right. What are you used to guest on Horacopio with Jess and Allen. Oh, man. I remember those old days. That's the first time I ever heard Nez talk movies. And here's the address for the identity theft. Thanks, Stephen Loblad.

Oh, okay. At least you're not reading it over the air. Yeah, well, that's only because it's not in front of me. I do kind of go Ron Burgundy and just read whatever's on there. Right. And now to our featured attractions. This week, it's Vacations Gone Wrong. That makes sense.

With Eden Lake and the brand new men. Yeah, I had a lot of trouble telling people I was watching men at the booby theater. Yeah, kind of hard to explain, right? Yeah, because my daughter, she, she, she, she, I usually take it to the movies, but I kind of figured this one wasn't going to be appropriate. And she was like, what are you watching? I was like, I'm going to watch men. And she just kind of flipped at me.

Like, what do you mean? I was like, it's a movie. It's a movie called Men. Not going to the theater to look at men. She says, Dad, I'm proud of you. You're brave and stunning. Man on film. You guys remember that?

I don't think they could get away with that that skid anymore. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh, man, the Wayans brothers, they did it best. Lots of shit on it. Oh, yeah. Oh, I remember that. The little hat. Yeah, that's very good.

Oh, man. All right. They did it. We'll start out with Eden Lake. From 2008. Refusing to let anything spoil the romantic weekend break, a young couple confront a gang of ludish youths. Uts! What is a Ute?

With terrifyingly brutal consequences. Director and writer James Watkins, also known for Mick Mafia, and The Woman in Black. What is the name? I remember the woman in black. Make Mafia. Sounds like a really awesome breakfast sandwich. Yeah, it sounds like I need to watch this one. Make Mafia.

It's a breakfast sandwich you can't refuse. Oh, okay. It's made with some horse. Don't ask questions. Jesus. When Jenny stares into the mirror before attacking and killing Cooper, you can just make out, etched into the mirror of the old park information board, the most dangerous animal in the forest. Okay.

I don't really know what that means, but okay. I'm not sure. I think I might have seen that. Maybe I imagined it. All right. So, Lance, what did you think about eating late? Not much trivia. Not much trivia on that one, huh?

No, not much trivia on that one. I'd never heard of this movie. I had heard of it. I'd never seen it. And I was like, oh, shit, it's that guy. And that chick. Yeah. Well, that's Beth Dutton, man, from Yellowstone.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I immediately recognize that. I'm kind of wondering after this performance if that didn't kind of, you know, lead into her getting that role. Because God knows Beth, Beth goes through a lot. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know, to start out with this movie,

I thought it was, I mean, it looked pretty low, budget. I mean, it obviously had Magneto and Beth Dutton in it, you know, high dollar actors now, but so this was 2008, Brian, or 2004? This is not before Magneto got big, is it? He does look very long in this movie.

Let me see what he did around this time. Yeah, kind of curious, like what time frame this was at. Because it took me a second to recognize him. I thought it was just a guy that looked like him. Yeah, well, you know, when people use their actual accents, too, sometimes it

throws you off because you're used to everybody doing American roles. Yeah. All these English actors coming and taking our jobs. Take your jobs. I think this was his first starring movie or

second. Oh, wow. Okay. So he did a movie called Hunger, which I've never seen. Not The Hunger. No. And then he did.

300 actually was his first movie. He was one of the Spartans. Oh, I didn't even know that. The year before. Interesting. He had a weird career. Zack Snyder discovered him, huh? And then he jumped ship to the Marvel, or the Sonyverse.

Yeah. First big movie that he was in, like big, big movie. was the year after this when he did Inglorious Bastards. Oh, yeah. Great actor, though. He's one of those guys that's going to be around for a long, long, long time. Quite an interesting career. I mean, but other than their presence in the movie,

I thought that what looked, this movie to me looked pretty low budget, but it certainly looked realistic. Philip is freaking me out right now. Are you seeing that too, Brian? What? What? Your face is like melting on my screen, or is that just me? It's just you.

You drop me. Oh, no. Must be my connection here. Uh-oh. It's kicking in, man. Something's kicking in. Wow, dude, that is freaking me out, man. Man.

That is crazy. All right, yeah. No, I don't want to say too much right off the jump. somebody else go and give some details, but the realism of this movie was on a level where people would get stabbed and I could, like, feel it. You'd be walking on broken glass and you could feel it. You'd have somebody come up and grab you and put you in a headlock or something, and it's like you were right there. So it's great, great sound design, too, because even if you didn't actually see someone get stabbed, you heard it. Yeah.

It sounded pretty realistic. Even the off-screen stuff, huh? Mm-hmm. What did you guys think about it? Brian? I'll go. All right. Oh, I loved it.

First time I watched it was 31 days last year. Always heard about it, but never got to it. And, yeah, this is a so fucked up movie. Very depressing, depressing ending. I thought everybody did great in it. I agree with you, Lance. It's definitely low budget, but I think it kind of just adds to the gritty,

grimyness of it. When we actually did get to see some kills, I thought the effects were pretty good. And man, these fucking kids were so fucking shitty. Yeah. I've never hated anybody more in a movie. Like this, this kid was like Joffrey times two. Yeah.

Yeah. Right. I actually seen a review. Someone was reviewing this on YouTube, and they actually kept referring to him as Joffrey. Yeah. There you goes. Are you serious?

That's how he acted. The whole fucking movie, man. I could not have hated this person more. Yeah. Little bastard, huh? Yeah. Yeah. And even when you get to the,

when you meet the parents the parents this whole I don't know what was it a village town everybody was kind of shitty yeah right because you got that scene

when um they're at UK rednecks they're at that diner or restaurant or whatever and he's Michael Fastman is kind of asking about are there any kind of unruly bad kids around here and she just immediate

the waitress is like not mine and it just kind of walks off and yeah I just this movie is fucked up but

I don't know I don't know about you guys but I don't think I would have waited long to start fucking some kids

up in this movie yes yeah stupid people can you give us some some kind of stupid people

alert Philip that's not going to get us in trouble with I think I have one because well I got to

give the biggest one to Michael Fastbender, because he was a complete fucking idiot in this movie. Everything he did was fucking wrong. Both of them were fucking stupid. Yeah. That was, I had the same problem with this one, although not to even close to the same degree, as I had with the goddamn Russell Crow Roadwage one. Ah, unhinged.

Yeah, unhinged. I keep forgetting the name of that movie. But, you know, I'll forget that I even watched it a month for now. but this was a way better movie and it kept me way more involved but there was a lot of moments where I'm like what the fuck are you doing don't do that yeah like when he when he went into their house yeah that was a big one what the fuck are you doing yeah this is for you Michael fast been there it I mean it's just like you man every time we do it's stupid people Every, it's like every decision he made was wrong.

Yeah. Even when, when you think he's getting away. Yes. And he finds the car. Of course he sets the car alarm off. Yes. It's found to happen, huh? Well, in the whole situation, in the beginning, I thought, like, when they were, like, laying on the beach.

Okay. First things first, the goddamn dog comes up to him. and I'm like, why are you being a bitch? Just pet the dog. Like, ease some tensions, whatever. No, nothing. She's, she's going to act like a snooty bitch the whole fucking time. And she's so scared of their goddamn dog. And then they don't get up and leave because they don't want to give them the satisfaction of the satisfaction. There's the word I'm looking for. Yeah, they don't want to give him the satisfaction, I guess, right? That's where he's going to hold his ground. I don't want to leave.

Yeah. Yeah. It just got to the point where you're just like, it's not worth it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, it's you either leave or some shit's going to go down, right? I mean, that's sort of how that is going to be, especially when the kid walks by and pulls his dick out. Yeah.

Yeah. If you're going to be man enough to be like, okay, well, maybe I should just stay here because I don't want to give them the satisfaction. Then at that point, he has crossed the line. And it is time to get the fuck up, man. You don't let that slide. That's not okay. I know there's a bunch of kids there and they may beat your ass. But God damn it, I'm taking a motherfucker's balls off if that's happening.

You may kick my ass, but I'm taking your nuts with me. You guys can go or not. And that kid that played, what was his name? Brett, the main bad one? Yeah, yeah. I thought he was great in this. He just was unhinged. He really was.

I hated him, but he was. And was it, is it just me or did his, like, I don't know if that was his girlfriend or not? Did she look like Aria? Yes, I kept thinking, oh, that's Aria from Game of Thrones, but this was way too many years before, I think. It's like Aria on meth. Are you on meth? So many fucked up. scenes in here.

The one kid that's randomly by himself in the forest, they get him, they get him to help catch the one girl, and then when she gets away, they use him as bait

to get her back by threatening to light him on fire, and then they fucking light him on fire. That was fucking up. Hey, if you're going to say, if you're going to say, I'm going to light somebody on fire, you better be ready to do. do it.

This is fucked up. And I like the contrast between the characters because you could tell that not all of them was on board. It was just more. They were being intimidated. Yeah. Which one of them doesn't really go along with what I say,

his name was Brett. Right. And he gets beat to death. The one kid. Yeah, right. I mean, mate you tried to kill that guy and set him on fire you're going too far that was a little more australia's british there's just some they just come out i don't know what they're

there's a lot of brutal scenes when they're taking turns cutting michael fastbender oh fuck man i felt terrible for him and brett's brutal yeah brett's not really happy with how deep people are cut them. They, you know, do it, do it for real, you know, do it better than that. Yeah. And he's, uh, he's making them do the cutting while he watches, for me. He's kind of like he does anything to him. He's kind of like Alex from Clockwork Orange, but an unlikable Alex. Yeah.

Because Alex, even though he's a fucking asshole and a dickhead, you, you love something about him, you know, you have to like Malcolm McDowell. Not so much with this little shit head. No, I kept wondering why his little cronies, like one of them. didn't just go, you know what, motherfucker. Yeah, no shit. Somebody stand up, right? See, and that's what I'm saying. With the kid that pulled his dick out, you take him down, nobody else is fighting you.

That's the end of the fucking story. Right. Cut the head off the snake. Yeah, it seemed to be like the only two that were really even into it was the kid, bread or whatever, and the girl. She didn't even do anything either. She was being a bitch. The one black kid. He seemed to be.

Oh, yeah. He was pretty hardcore, I guess. Because he was the first one to pull out a knife. Yeah. Well, then there's the other fast bender thing, right? They pulled the knife on him. Right. You got a litter away from him, stabbed the dog.

The dog's dying. And he drops the knife and is like, oh, my God, guys, I'm so sorry. Oh, no. Never. They fucking pulled the knife on you. What did you think was going to happen? Oh, shit. Yeah, good point.

Here's my weapon. I'm sorry, guys. Can we call it good? No. Brian, I think that Sounder's going to come out more and more, buddy. And who goes camping with zero blades or weapons of any kind? Michael Fastbender. I guess so. Fucking guy, man. And then when he told her to go get help and she's like, oh, I think I'm going to go hide behind this tree and sleep in the fucking woods. Yeah, all night.

Bitch, if you had gone to get help, the movie would have been over. Well, therein lies the problem. There were seven or eight times that if she had done this or that the movie would have been over. Like, why the fuck does she get into the car when that one kid that picks her up that she thinks is innocent and come to find out he's tied to it also? Yeah. Why does she get in the car and not go and fucking move forward and smash those two fucking kids? They've already killed her husband by then, right? Yeah.

Yeah, because she had no problem running over Aria. Yeah, I think that was a semi-accident, too. No, she, if you ever get a chance to re-watch it, she had a evil smile on it. I can't say evil because of what has been done to them, but she had a look on her face. I think it was totally intentional. Oh, 100%.

I loved that scene. I was like, all right, fucking allegedly. I thought that's when the movie was going to start turning around. Yeah. It did suck for the one kid that actually tried to help. That's what he gets. Oh, the one that got set on fire? No, the one that got stabbed in the throat.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt bad. Because he was coming back to help her. Yeah, and he was the one that didn't want to do it in the first place. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, hey, I thought we were hanging out doing some thugging shit, and you're talking about, like, stabbing people in the fucking mouth.

That's... How about no? I didn't feel too sorry for anybody in the movie, except our two main characters. Yeah. At a certain point, I stopped feeling bad for Michael Fasper. Because I'm just like, how many stupid choices are you going to make? Was it at the point where she had cuts all over her that could easily get infected and she took a nose dive into a bucket full of toxic waste? Oh, yeah.

Is that the point? Maybe that's the best place to hide. Was it the point when she wrecked the car? Because she freaked out and panicked and ended up at that house with the adults. What part exactly, Brian, did she lose you? I don't know. Well, that was just bad timing, I guess, or couldn't help. Just happened to end up at the house where all the parents are having a party.

Well, that was another one. Yeah, like she gets back in the car and then just stops at the first random fucking party she sees and says, oh, well, I'll just come in and say hi to these people. Pretty silly. Pretty silly. Pretty silly. Even when she's in the house and she realizes that's the main kid's parents' house. Yeah. Why do you go lock yourself in the bathroom?

Yeah. Of all places, huh? at that point she almost kind of had it coming i felt i mean i felt bad for it but it's like jesus man how like how many dumb moves are we going to make here all the way up until the end when you got nothing left to lose yeah and you're still making really stupid decisions and what happens you get you killed yeah man yeah what a downer ending i you know we're we're talking about how how how stupid a lot of the actions were in the movie and

how silly parts were, but at the end of the day, that was a pretty impactful ending. I mean, anyway, that's why I didn't want to talk about it until you guys spoke a little bit. That's not what I was expecting. I thought it was going to be a straight-up revenge.

And as much as I'm bitching about like stupid people moments, because they had a lot of them, but it kept me invested enough to pay attention to that. I think overall it was a really good movie. It impressed me. I'd never heard of it, never seen it.

And I like it, man. I'd totally watch that one again. Yeah, that final scene when she gets to the party and before she kind of realizes who there are, I had this real claustrophobic feeling with all the grownups around. I'm like, something's going to happen here. That was

before they gave us any tales of who they really were or their relationship. Something's going to happen. I got a little nervous at the early part where fast bender, like another fucking idiotic move, goes into those people's house. Yeah. I didn't understand. I'm like, what are you doing?

What are you doing? Why are you doing that? I'm going to walk in these people's house that I don't know. And then the only way I can get out is to climb out the window. Or even when the guy shows up, at least, I mean, he probably shouldn't have walked in the house to begin with. But when the guy shows up, at least, hey, I was going. I don't mean any harm, but your kids are assholes.

Well, at that point, he's already walking through their upstairs bedrooms. Yeah. Where he shouldn't have fucking been in the first place. Yeah. Right. But going back to that last scene when she's at the parents' house, they did a great job because earlier when you do see adults, everybody's shitty. Yeah. But at this party, you don't think that because everybody's willing to help her.

out. And then when you get that scene where she glances up and then she sees like the school pictures of him, of the main kid, I was like, oh, that's real fucked up for you right now. Yeah. The light bulb moment, huh?

Well, and the biggest bummer in this movie is that that kid didn't get fucking murdered. Yeah, no shit. That bothers me. Yeah, I, I wanted more I'll admit it. I wanted a straight-up revenge movie badly. by the time this thing is in its last 10 minutes. And I really felt cheated at the end.

And I guess that's part of the impact of the film, quite frankly. Again, I got to say the realism of it, the violence, the attacks, everything I felt. It was incredibly well filmed. I thought it looked very realistic, almost looked like a snuff film at times. I'm kind of embarrassed to say, kind of turn my stomach at points. and when you, you know, think about these kids. And yeah, like Philip said, the whole thing could have been diffused early on, but I guess then we wouldn't have a movie.

Yeah. Well, the whole thing could have been diffused about 15 times early on is the problem. You missed one opportunity. I get it. But come on. Can't keep tripping over the key to the door. Yeah, over and over again, huh? All right.

Scores. Lance, what do you think? I will give it a seven. I mean, it's a good solid watch. It's one. I know some people have said before they'll never re-watch it. I forgot who it was that said that. I think someone on our Facebook group mentioned,

I own this film, but I'll never watch it again. I do believe that I would watch this movie again just because of the realism of the violence. It was interesting to see that. it was well filmed, it was well-acted. Maybe a little too well-acted. Maybe a young Joffrey got a little bit into his role. Yeah, I had a green room kind of vibe to it.

Yes, very much so. Very much so. And some similarities with the next movie, including the name Eden. But, yeah, it's a seven. It's solid. Okay. Brian? I'm going to go,

seven and a half. All right. I thought the acting was pretty solid. Like I said, it being a kind of a low-budget movie, kind of added to the grittiness of it, and if you haven't seen it, just kind of prepare yourself for the movies pretty much a downer for a lot of people.

Yeah. Be ready to start screaming at them. I don't know how you would watch this in a theater. Oh, yeah. Don't do that, bitch! Loud theater. Loud theater. Yeah.

Although I'm going to give it an eight, man. Wow. I bitched about it. I really liked this movie. It was impactful. It was gritty. It was two really great actors in a very young stage of their career, you know, which is really fun.

to see. And man, they pulled it off. I think they did great. The kids acting, I thought, acted their little asses off, man. They were doing really good. Like, I cannot explain to you how much I hate that fucking kid. That was the role that he was playing. He did it really well. He did his job. He was convincing. Or he's a shithead, one of the other, but, or both. He was definitely channeling Malcolm McDowell there in a few scenes, especially the very final scene with the sunglasses. I can see Alex doing that with a little glass of milk. I got to go back and watch that one. Oh, yeah.

Classic, man. All right. We'll move on to men. Moving on to men. Moving on to men. That's the time you move on to men. A young woman goes on a solo vacation to the English countryside following the death of her ex-husband.

I guess that's about as good of a description as I can give you without giving anything. Absolutely, yeah. Director and writer is Alex Garland, also known for Ex Machina and Annihilation. You said he did 28 Days Later also? He wrote that in... Oh, he wrote it, okay.

Sunshine and another one that I like that he wrote The Beach with Leonardo DiCaprio Oh shit, he wrote that one too Yeah Okay He's got some talent

No doubt, no doubt I think he has he written some novels too I thought I'd heard he had Don't don't quote me on that I kind of want to say you're right Lance I think neither he did or he is I would sure I'll sure as he'll read them.

Yeah. If that's the case. So we're trying to find out. That's more trivia than we have on here because the other trivia is this is Alex Garland's third feature film. So going back to the math that Tim brought up. The price, motherfucker. All right. Lance, this is going to be a fun one to talk about because it's trippy as fun.

Yeah? What did you think about men? Well, I think that my... What are your thoughts on men? I will say that this is going to be the shortest review that I've ever done because I don't want to trip over any spoilers accidentally. Yeah, I think that's probably smart at the beginning at least. Yes, I'm going to keep this short and sweet.

This is easily the most beautifully filmed movie that I've seen since Midsomar. and that's what two years ago so it's been a been a couple of years um every everything everywhere all at once is a better film than some others but this one i think was filmed as far as the photography this this takes the cake for me this is my favorite favorite film to look at in a while as far as the lushness one particular scene where a camera goes somewhere and then comes out and something's changed it similar actually there's a lot of similarities between this movie and the night. So again, let me quit while I'm ahead. Yeah. Beautifully filmed the stumbling here without saying something. Oh, boy.

More us than other. I kind of don't even really want to give away much of the plot. You know what I mean? It's... Let's not yet. I want people to, if they're going to see the movie, I was totally unspoiled. I didn't even see the second trailer. Yeah, I didn't even know what it was about.

Good acting. Although, to be fair, I still might not know what it's about. Very, very good acting, much better than Norbit. That's it. Much better than Norbit. Never mind. Is that the bar? You know why I'm saying that, don't you?

Uh-uh. It's been a long time. I can't. I mean, I, all right. But we'll definitely get into that. Yeah, I'll make a Norbert. Is that a scene? It was a scene.

All right. No, no. Okay, is it a nutty professor, right? Eddie Murphy. Oh, I got you. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Was it nutty or I got Norbert wrong, right? Norbert was the one that did my milkshake, right? Norbert was the one that was terrible and nobody watched. I don't know why, but Ben Stiller and Dodgeball just popped in my head when you said milkshake. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All the men to the yard.

Oh, there's going to be so many jokes and puns tonight. That's toxic, Lance. Toxic masculinity. All right, well. All right. So you liked it? I really liked it. Yeah.

Okay. Awesome. Are we giving scores already? Well, we'll go around real quick. Yeah, we got to give our thoughts first, Lance. Okay. I'm really thrown off because. Again, I'm stumbling over myself trying not to give anything away. Yeah, I don't blame you.

Brian? I can't say that I loved it, but I liked it. Yeah, you've got to maneuver my way through this. Jesse Buckley and Rory Keneer. Is that how you say it? Yeah. Yeah. I think they, as far as acting, I think they,

They kilted in this. Oh, for sure. Both of them. Visually beautiful. Yeah. Music that was playing the score. Mm-hmm. Beautiful.

There's just certain things that I wish would have been explained a little bit more because there was times I kind of was like, the fuck am I watching. Yeah, I still have a lot of questions. Especially when it came to a certain. scene at the end, which had a couple people in my theater get up and leave. Oh, wow. Wow. I audibly in the theater went, what the fuck?

Yeah, I did too, and I wasn't, I didn't even know, like, what kind of what the fuck was I doing? Was this like, what the fuck am I watching? Or was this like, wow, what the fuck am I? You know, I don't know what version of that came out. Yeah. Alex Garland, he's definitely a talented filmmaker. I just kind of, when we got near the end, I just kind of like, what's going on, what's happening.

So that's why I was really interested in getting to this review, because I wanted to maybe us kind of breaking it down, we'll kind of figure it out together. For sure. Because I'm not going to lie, I did get lost a couple times. But solid performances from the two leads. Rory Keneer, after this performance, he's no longer the pig fucker anymore from Black Mirror. Oh, is that that guy? Yeah. That's the guy.

That's the guy. I think he was amazing in this. Yeah. But, yeah. Phil, take it away because I feel like I'm going to accidentally spoil something. It's kind of hard. And I kind of agree with everything you guys say. It was filmed really beautifully.

Yeah, it's an A24 film, so you know it was many gorgeous. And it is. A little, little, little taste of the smell your own fart thing going. Yeah, there were a few moments. I've sensed that as well. But I don't mind that. Everybody likes their own brand. They were very vague.

It's very open to interpretation, I think the movie is, except that it also kind of wasn't. We'll get into that. So I'm not sure I like the direction that it went in, but they did it really well. Yeah, because it's fantastic. At times you, you like, oh, I know exactly where they're going with this. Yeah. And then something else will happen. You're just like, what the what?

Yeah, right. Yeah, they didn't go that way. What does that even fucking mean? So when I went to the theater, there was only two other people in there. And it was a younger couple way in the back. And, you know, they were talking a little bit to not enough to bother me at all. but I could tell that a lot of times they were like, what is going on? And then when we walked out of the theater,

they were in front of me and kind of talking about it. And the guy turns around and he's like, what did you think about that, man? And I was like, it's fucking weird, man. I don't know what they're going. That's the sign of a good film. He's got everybody talking afterwards, right? And then, yeah.

And then he was like, yeah, I don't know what the fuck that was. Fair enough, right? It's interesting. It's an interesting movie. There's a lot of what-the-fuck moments. So for that alone and for how beautifully it's made, I think it's definitely worth watching, even if I may not agree with it, but we'll get there.

Okay. And real quick, he, this is definitely an A-24 film, but at the same time, it's an Alex Garland film but that makes sense yeah he does have a lot of that going on and because if you go back and you watch X X is it Macina

machina what how do you say it X Machina is what I'm X Machina if you go watch X Machina and Annihilation you don't get that A24 feel with those yeah I had a lot of it that way before

and I kind of felt like maybe him doing a 24 film maybe that's why he was kind of pushing the what the fuck is going on aspect of the movie because he could he was in the right toy box yeah yeah he was in art house world right hmm makes sense yeah um all right so uh scores

lance so we can get into spoilers yeah i get this one an eight and a half this is uh going to be a top ten film There's a lot, a lot to take in, a lot to absorb, how much of it was literal, how much of it was figurative or, you know, talking about something that is, looks like one thing on the surface, it is something else underneath. We can get into all that, but you can't, you can't fault the visual appeal of this film, the special effects, the acting, the way that it was shot, the claustrophobic feel. I think it's a easy eight and a half. All right, Brian? I'm going to go a little bit lower than you. I'm going to go seven and a half.

That could change. Yeah. On, you know, if I rewatch it and how this conversation goes, you know, if I understand it more. But most of that score goes to the performances in the movie and the direction beautifully shot. And the music, the music just fit so well. the score and the sound design, I thought it was all amazing. It just, at times, it kind of lost me. And I don't know, maybe that's what he was going for to really get people to fucking

really think about the movie. Yeah, I reserve the right to change my score. But for now, I'm as beautiful of a movie as it is, it's almost hard to give you even an explanation until we get into spoilers. but I'm going to give it a six. Okay. That's being generous because it's a... Take all the fucking story out of it.

It's a fantastic movie. Yeah, so it's... We're all three above the 500 mark. Yeah. So that's always a good night. So those are my positives. We'll get into the negatives. Or maybe they're not.

Maybe I'm fucking totally wrong. And we'll get into the discussion and figure some shit out. And maybe my score will go up. This is definitely the most... Or maybe it'll go down. I don't think it'll go down. This is definitely the most horror-esque movies done so far. Yeah, I think we can agree on that,

other than the bear scene and annihilation. Which, if you go on IMDB, this is listed as a sci-fi horror. I don't necessarily know if I agree with that. Or maybe it's something. I think it's other stuff as sci-fi horror. Yeah, definitely. This is not so sci-fi. Not to society.

Supernatural or more psychological, I think. Okay. Yeah. Maybe. But fuck, I don't know. It's an art house. It's a way to describe it. Sure.

Yeah. All right. There was a little smell your own fart in there, huh? A little bit. A little pretentiousness. All right. So, spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. I talked about the performances. I thought Roy Keneer playing all these different versions of himself. Yeah, it took a few minute to even realize that's what was happening.

I thought he gave everybody their own individual, like, touch. You know, I didn't feel like, oh, it's Roy Keneer playing this guy. That's Roy Caneer playing the priest or whatever they called him. What do they call him? The vicar, yeah. Which I'm not sure exactly what that means. Church of England. Oh, and then when he showed up as a fucking kid.

Yeah, that was fucking weird, man. Because we're in the Carol and Monroe mask. And the CGI on that was kind of, it was a little bit goofy. Yeah. But I think that was on purpose. I think so, too. I think that might have been on purpose to throw you on. to make it look off.

Like, okay, there's definitely something wrong here. Yeah. There's a lot wrong with all his characters because the naked man. Right. Ah, yes. I kind of wanted more explanation on... Me too.

I wanted more explanation on a lot. And the few other people that are in this movie Did nobody notice that this guy, everybody looks like the same guy? I'm not even sure if it's real. Did it happen? Yeah, that could be true. That could be true too. Her car was wrecked at the end.

Something happened, right? And her neighbor or her friend showed up. Maybe she took a bunch of mushrooms and wrecked the car. Yeah. And called her friend and said, help me. And she was pregnant. I don't know what the fuck that means in the scheme of things. I don't know. Well, it's something. It means something for sure. Because let's talk about that last scene. We'll start from the back and then scoot up. Okay. The what the fuck moment was

the green man who was another one from the green night. Part of that was based on the green man. This seems to be a UK legend that goes around. I looked up this movie. a little bit. Got a few different takes from it. Actually, actually, there's instances of the Green Man going back to like second century Budapest and stuff like that. Oh, really? Yeah, like all over Europe and even part of the Middle East, I think. It's like drawings, drawings of the Green Man.

An old pagan thing that found its way into Christianity somehow. Because these things are actually in the church. Yes. Both of those carvings that were in there. And one of them is, I can't remember what they called it. but like a female fertility thing. It seems to be a strange thing to have in the church, but whatever. Yeah, that was on one side and the green man was on the front side.

Yeah. So, yeah. Crazy moment is green man comes out of the wrecked car, leg all broken, arm split in half, just like her husband's injuries when he jumped or fell. Yep, that wasn't lost. on me either. And he is very, very pregnant and he

sits down. And they zoom way into his asshole and it becomes a vagina and he gives birth. And it looks like a vagina birth, man. It zooms right on up in there. Oh yeah. That doesn't hold back.

It does not hold back. It kind of special effects a little bit reminiscent of the thing. Yeah. This is when the people started walking out the theater. This is when I went, what? And he gives birth to another version.

I think it was the kid first, right? I'm good with the weird face. Yeah. All the weird people in the city that were him, he just gives birth to them over and over and over again. Right. Yeah, but not as they go, not in the same way, because there's one where,

he's giving birth like the guys the next one's coming out of the the back oh yeah those feet come out and the feet come out of the shoulder blades I was like yeah and then

Jeffrey this is probably my favorite one out of the the Roy Corniers he is getting born yeah the landlord yeah he's being born he's coming out of the mouth

and you just see the legs come up yeah Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. Right. It was a weird one, man. And then, so the last version is her ex-husband who's dead. Mm-hmm.

Which, there's flashbacks of them, basically how he died, which I kind of not necessarily know. I was a little confused there because I, they made it seem like he killed himself, but then she kind of says something like, I'm not sure if he killed himself or if he fell trying to get to the balcony or the upstairs balcony to our... So...

Yeah, well, he came right out and said, I'm going to, if you leave me, I'm going to kill myself. Yeah. Yeah, he was very mentally abusive, you know? Yeah, very mentally abusive. All right, so just of the story, just in case you haven't seen it, I assume you guys already know what we're talking about

because we're in spoilers. But just to the moment. movie mentally abusive husband. He kills himself. She goes on vacation and she like sees it happen. She goes on vacation for a couple of weeks at this cottage in the middle of nowhere. And

Keneer is the landlord. And she starts wandering around town and turns out he is every character in that little village. And they eventually start attacking her. It's a strange movie.

it is what I took from it was they all had these misogynistic fucking black Christmas vibe out the ass especially

the vicar the priest I felt like he was the worst one because he's basically she's telling him the situation that happened with the husband and then he was just like putting it on her at the same time he's like putting his hand on her leg and just super there was a lot of uncomfortable creepy moments in this one well and then the kid was like fuck you because you won't play with me

yeah so everybody wanted something from her and they just expected it yes and so i think that's maybe where they were going with that. I think it was a and it's the take that I've heard from you know, pretty much everybody so far. Yeah, that's definitely the heavy-handed. It's just like a really artsy toxic masculinity movie. You know what I mean? And it had

for me it was a really well-done Black Christmas. Yeah, that's what I didn't like about Black Christmas. was that it was like, all men are like this. Right? Well, all these guys were shitty, but that's not all men. I think if you're going to make a movie attacking one specific group, that's a bad idea. Just in general. Like, what if there was a movie named women?

And it just highlighted all the negative stereotypical feminist qualities. I'm sure there will be now. I doubt that very much because people... lose their fucking minds. But that's my rant for that. Other than that, I think it was a really well-done movie, except that it was so confusing. Like, I don't understand what the birthing scene at the end.

Yeah, I kind of had to create my own literal story for that to make sense out of it. And I'm going to go with that. So here's my interpretation, because there's a lot of different ways you can interpret this. And, I mean, everything you say is true. I mean, obviously on the surface, there's a lot of the toxic masculinity, you know, a study of toxic masculinity starting with her husband and going all the way through, you know, all these templates, right? Well, and that's the reason that he was playing all the same characters because all they're all the fucking same. Here's the story.

Here's the story I came up with because I wanted this to be a cool, you know, literal sci-fi horror movie. My interpretation is this area here and this is why. why they focused on that building at the beginning. The area that that building is built on, like that farm or whatever, has always been here. The green man, I don't know if it was through Black Magic, if it was through Wiccan, you know, ceremony or laying of stones or whatever, but the green man has always been really strong here, like worshipped and everything. And in my interpretation of this movie, the green man was brought to life by people that were

worshipping him. Might have been an all-male group. I mean, who knows, right? They were leaving to escape their wives and escape the women that were, in their opinions, nagging at them and stuff like that. But over time, people would come to this area again and again and again and again. And it resulted in a literal green man being created out of the dirt, out of the earth. And I think that's the character that was standing there naked because you notice he had pustules all over him.

Well, yeah, he turned into the green man later. Yeah, like he'd burned or he had been through like a lot of abuse or. had acid spilled on him. Just like he looked really road-worn, I guess you would say. I thought he was a zombie first. Yeah, I think he was the original. And I think every single one looked exactly the same because they were offshoots of him. He created them.

So there's a couple of possibilities here. Oh. He lures women to the village, right? And if he gets them to have sex, it creates another green man. But they have to dress it in a different costume. It has to play a different role in the little story and the little playpen or whatever. and then another woman comes and then he ends up either eating her

killing her or something like that. That's one possibility or he did learn how to birth but when a woman came into the village it fucked everything up and his perfect little harmonious life where he could create as many copies of himself as he wanted went totally sideways she fucked everything up now

the woman's here because of her estrogen and the things that she can do she can actually have the baby so there's no need for me to anymore. So now Now when I try to have a baby, it automatically dies. Another one comes out. It dies until it gets smaller and smaller and weaker and weaker. And then the last thing that it's going to coalesce into something out of her mind

that it yanked out of her mind telepathically, which is the memory of her dead husband. And that's why he's there at the end. But that's just my interpretations of that scene. I like that one. That's different than anything I've heard so far. Check out the big brain on bread. Yeah. Play the stupid people sound.

Come on. That made a lot of sense. It actually... I mean, that's a more like literal interpretation of the movie, but like I like that. That's the way I wanted to enjoy it. I mean, I read enough and watch enough stuff that's just, you know, nothing but symbolism and whatnot. And I wanted to enjoy a movie.

And obviously, I gave it eight and a half, so I found it impactful. I love the scenes in the house when the house is being... I loved it when the first character was walking her through the house. So British. Pit, Pip, hey, hey, look over here, and there's the study. Oh, did you notice? Did you notice? Jeffrey?

He asked her, yeah, he asked her, did you, do you play the piano? And she said, no. Right. Why? Now, what's up with that? And she played beautifully. So, see, that's the woman's evil wiles right there, right? Like, why was she lying to him just to get the conversation over there?

Exactly. Why was she lying to him? That's what I want to know. What are your thoughts, Brian? I kind of felt like she was trying to end the conversation. Just get them the fuck out of there. Yeah.

Because if she was to say, yes, I do know how to play piano, I think that would have just led into a whole other conversation. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, I think that's what she was doing there. I just don't understand why. And then at the very first tunnel when she's doing her little song, Oh, that was so awesome, man.

That scene was gorgeous. Okay, so what was the thing that stood up at the end and started chasing her? Oh, I don't know, but I don't want to know. That wasn't the Green Man? Wasn't the original? It may have been the kid version. Okay. But it seemed like a screaming female to me.

It did. No, and I'm thinking about it. Yeah, and what was up with the one female cop? How do you explain that? That's the one thing I can't understand how that. Yeah, also true. Yeah. And I was, I do have to admit, I was thinking there, like when the scene where she went into the pub,

I was thinking, come on, you stupid bitch, don't you fucking realize this is the same exact goddamn person? Is it only me seeing this? You know, so. Yeah. There's no other women other than that cop. Yeah. Why was she there? And who was she?

And was she a woman? I can't, I, I'd love to have an explanation for that. anybody that's listening, I'd love to hear that. Talking to you, Alex. Yeah, I definitely. I think she was there to make you feel safe in that scene because there was another woman in it. Ah, that makes perfect sense.

When they went, so she felt safe. She was the mole. And so, yeah. And, you know, another way to take this and the way that I was choosing to take it was this was her grief process from the loss of her husband. Makes sense. And because that was such a toxic relationship, she had to go through that grief process with this, you know,

where men doesn't have to be a part of her life, you know what I mean? Yep, yeah, absolutely. And to, because, you know, the green man is about rebirth. Mm-hmm. You know. Yeah, that's in there too. As Apple is in there. Eden is in there.

Adam and Eve's in there. Yeah. And so I mean, you know, I think it still is, she's, you know, looking back at all of this, all of the symbolism of the patriarchy or what the fuck ever. And I think that's really what it is. But part of what I chose to believe was that she was going through this rebirth and in this grieving process. And that's why the very last. version of that guy was her ex-husband. And so she had to have some kind of closure with him.

And then when she had that, right, she's, she's gone through her grieving process. Yeah, she's free. Which is why she took the vacation in the first place. Did she kill him at the end? What did, I don't know. It just, I thought she left him.

Well, I don't know. What happened, but I... Because she asked, what do you want for me? And he was like to be, to be loved. Right, right. And still another thing that he's wanting... Yeah, he's wanting to take from her. And her expression before it cuts to the next scene is kind of how I took it is I'm not giving

you that. Right. Yeah, exactly. That's good, man. That's good. I don't think that, obviously, I don't think that was her husband. There's no way he could die and be like put in a morgue and then show up at the end of the movie. No, that wouldn't make any sense. I think the whole movie is more metaphorical than anything else. You know what I mean? Yeah, like you take, like I said, I like your, I like your literal interpretation of it. And I fucking, if that's the part of the movie, I'm. Yeah, I had fun, I had fun watching it with that mindset. Well, and he left it open to interpretation on purpose.

Right. part of it so he didn't go through the shitstorm of creating another woke movie well yeah but i think that i think this is a little bit elevated above just like a basic for sure or a black christmas yeah yeah all right i'm gonna here's here's what i'm gonna say this is the part of the movie that i thought captured um what you know me not being a woman i really don't know but my interpretation of what it's like sometimes to be a woman is the scene where she tried to get away from the guy and she went out into the woods you see her like just getting a big smile on her face looking up into the air it's softly raining

everything's pastoral and beautiful she goes into the tunnel and all of a sudden she's got this fear in her heart right it's like when women say you know sometimes i feel like if i i want to walk in a group right because i'm afraid that if i walk alone you know some guy may jump me or something see that's a fear we don't really have to worry about you know so see i thought he captured that pretty well in that scene. I think that that thing though on the other side of the tunnel was her screaming. Oh wow! Yeah.

Oh shit! Remember her scream from the beginning when he fell off the truth while she was screaming? It was! It was! Brian, do you get that too? Yeah. I tried so hard to get to a second viewing. That was a great scene too. Yeah. Of him falling and

they lock eyes as he's falling. Yeah. She's not... It looks scary as shit. He may have just fell. that's what I'm saying because he his expression didn't look like I'm killing myself it looked like maybe he was trying to get climbed down and slipped and fell

yeah seems a little coincidental that he's I'm going to go kill myself love and then the next thing you know he's fallen off of fucking building it seems like an awful big coincidence to me I I don't think we need to bring out Scotland Yard for this one I He'd already taken a few steps across the line at that point. But then again, maybe this is not really happening. That's what I'm saying.

Because he... It's a multiplayer of the movie. All the Roy Kaneers, they get their arm split by the kitchen arm. Which is how he impaled his arm. Right. On the fence. And that was not an accident that Garland showed that. Everything in this maybe was very precise.

Right. And so that's why I, that's why I kind of choose to think that it's, it's her working through her grieving process. And the more than I'm thinking about it, and the higher I want to raise my score. Because the more than I'm thinking about it, I think that may be really what it is, is she's just going through her grieving process.

And then that screaming version of her, maybe, which I thought was a zombie at first. Another one. I thought it was going to be a zombie movie. I'm like, this is going to be awesome. What are we doing? Artsy zombies?

Cool. Oh, it's coming. It's coming. But that was just her keeping herself. You're not done yet. You can't leave. Hmm. You know?

And so she forced her back into this purgatory kind of place. That's awesome, dude. I love that. her own shit. Yeah, I totally see that right now. And so if I look at it like that and she just has to break free from being with somebody, you know what I mean? She's like, right now she's sick of men. So all these men, because of one man, one man. Right. But she's sick of that one man in particular, but she has to find a way to be her own person. Yeah. In other words, she's seeing

reflections over and over again. Wyatt looks like Rory the pig fucker instead of the other guy. I have no idea. Yeah, I know. That's a good point. Well, in the beginning, when she's arguing with him, she's screaming at him that she has her own life too, you know? And so I think that maybe that's part of it.

She's just trying to find her way as an independent woman without a man's help. And I'm totally cool with that. I think that that works way better than all these fucking men are assholes and they're all the same, which is... Yeah, that would be... Basically, I know it's simple, but it seems like the on the surface hit you... Oh, absolutely. Symbolist of what this movie is, and a lot of people have taken that way, and I don't fucking like that message. That's the easy takeaway, man.

Yeah. I mean, that's kind of how they marketed the movie, right? Didn't you guys think it was going to be toxic masculinity? It was like that's called in and you showed the, they showed on the trailer with the vicar putting his hand on her knee and all that. Yeah. It was like that Gillette commercial, but. The best man can get.

Remember the woke Gillette commercial of that toxic masculinity? I just remember, Jolette, the best of man to do. Like a girl walks by and this guy gets up, he's like, all right, I'm fixing to go hit on her. And then his buddy's like,

no, stop. Oh, no, it's an after school special. Yeah. And so that's what a lot of people take away from it, I think, and I don't like that aspect. But I like my version of it, and I like your version of it. And I like that this movie did that where everybody can take away a different version, and that was very intentional. Brian, I want to know what you thought about the special effects.

There was obviously tons of CGI in there, but did you think they did a pretty good job? Could you feel the knife? Yes, definitely. felt a nice. That's a rough scene. That was cool. Very rough scene. The husband, even though we didn't see the impact when they showed him laying there

with his arm impaled, I felt that with the ankle broken. Yeah. And yeah. The only thing that did kind of bother me was the child version of Roy Keneer,

the face, but then again, Yes, me too. Like you were saying, Phil, maybe that was intentional. Yeah, I think it was like intentionally supposed to be kind of off-putting and really fucking weird. Yeah, and it kind of made me laugh because this is this tiny Roy Kaneer face with his little tiny Tide. It's another thing to make it just a little bit more surreal, you know? True, true. How did you guys like the filming of that camera going into the deer's eye when it first died and then

coming out and there's like maggots crawling on it and everything out in the woods. It was gross, but it's cool. Yeah. Incredibly well done. We're either, speaking of the green man, we're either of you guys green. A little bit.

No, I was lucky to even, I seen this last night. I was lucky to even make it. I was, Lance, I was trying to do a double feature because they were showing Star Trek the motion picture.

Oh, nice. Okay. made it miss the showing of men that I was originally supposed to go, so I couldn't even watch the Star Trek movie. Oh, man. That's all right. We'll have time for that later. We'll do a commentary.

Yeah, it was quite a film, guys. Like I said, I'm sticking with my eight and a half. I mean, there's obviously shortcomings. There's some things that can turn you off about this movie, but I got to give it up to this. this dude. He knows how to film a movie. I know he wrote it and directed it.

I wonder how hands-on he is. Is he like a Kubrick or an Ariostar where he's like involved in everything, including the editing and everything? Any insight into that guys? I would have to say he is. I know he works with the same two guys for the score over and over again, and that score was like some one of you guys said it was phenomenal. I think you did, Brian.

Well, and all this. movies have the same sort of, I don't know, sort of surreal feel. Not quite to them. I got you. Yeah. And it's like, and partially because of the score, they're really good at pulling you into that.

You know what I mean? Yes. Yeah. I mean, the guy's a hell of a filmmaker. I'm excited to see more stuff from him. What was that song? The one that, at the beginning they played it, and it was sung by a guy, and then at the very end credits, the same

song was sung by a woman. Have you ever heard that before? It sounded really familiar, like very pastoral, very, very English, almost progressive rock sounding. I don't know what it was. Yeah, I tried looking it up, but I'd like to get a copy of that song.

I mean, they played her echo thing throughout the whole movie. That was really cool. Yeah. In other words, they echoed the echoes throughout the movie. Yeah. I love that interpretation, dude, about her being on one end of the tunnel and seeing herself?

I mean, that's the only thing I can think of, because it seemed to be a... It was a woman screaming. Yeah, it seemed to be a woman that was screaming. I kind of just snapped through that part in the movie. I wasn't, I mean, I was paying really close attention, but that got past me, but you're absolutely right. So, that's kind of like a error. And I was, well, and I, okay, so the face that was like glitching out on our phone.

Yes. Oh, that was creepy. I think that was also her screaming. Yeah, and we do get her screaming at the church later. Oh, wow, that was a powerful moment. Yeah. She can act. Oh, yeah.

Everybody did a hell of a job in this movie. Mm-hmm. And then... Very British, and you were right, Brian, very folk. Yeah. And then that one scene of her screaming in the bathtub towards the end. That was weird. Well, and again, that...

That whole sequence was weird. Another thing where this is all happening in her head and she's just trying to get past it. And that may have been the reality at the moment. She's just in the bathtub and she's getting through her shit. Tripping, right, yelling. Hell, yeah. So was that supposed to be like a hallucinogenic dandelion? Because as soon as she inhaled the dandelion seed is when she started going through her visions.

Well, maybe that was the green man in practice. her. Yeah, it was a seed. Oh, fuck! Oh, wow. Shit, why aren't we smoking weed having this conversation? God damn it. I'm going to see this movie again as soon as I can't. I want to see it in the theater again. It was pretty good.

Another thing that kind of made me wondering if she was hallucinating is when she kept trying to send her friend, her location. Yeah, right, right. And she couldn't do it. And so she text her the information. And then she replies, I already have it, bitch. Yeah, how did that happen? How are you going to get a text from her text, right?

Yeah. Like, did he hack? I guess the green man's come 21st century. He can hack now. Yeah, because I, you know, that was the part that was in her head, I think. You know what I mean? Because that's when shit went haywire. True.

And the green man showed up. Yeah. And that was all at night. too, which is pretty cool. And then again, though, like our friend shows up pregnant at the end. I have no idea what that's supposed to symbol. Is that just ready for the next rebirth?

Is it just another throw in symbolization to rebirth? I don't know. Women are needed on the planet. You know, I don't know. Green man tried it by himself, and it didn't work out very well.

I mean, I don't know. There's obviously a lot of biblical references in here. I haven't studied the Bible. I read the Bible when I was like 13 or 14 years old, taking summer Bible school camp or whatever, but I can't remember any of it except this person begat, that person begat, this person begat, like in the Old Testament. The boring parts.

Yeah, very boring. But I don't know. I'm sure there's a lot more biblical references in this movie that I missed. Well, I mean, obviously there was the eating of the apple thing, right? Mm-hmm. And also kind of represents the fall of man, like her husband falls. Oh, wow. I mean, I don't know.

That probably isn't anything, but. Oh, I'm sure it is. I'm sure it's... I think a lot of that was just her going back to the beginning of time and going like she was so fucking done with men at that point. Right. That's the name. Yeah, I got you.

So in her mind, that's, man, all the way back to the beginning of time, women need men. I don't need men. So, yeah, cool with that. That's like, hey, man, be a feminist, do whatever you need to do, as long as you're not putting everybody else down. I'm happy with every group. All right. You got anything else to say, guys? No, I think we made some good points there.

Yeah, I think this was another good week at the movies. Between this and Downton Abbey, I took my wife. My wife dragged me to see that, but I kind of got into it toward the end. She, I don't know, got a wild hair and started binging the entire series. So now we're all cut up. My wife is watching Yellowstone again. That's a good one. But I think it's because she came in while I was watching Eden Lake.

And she was like, oh, that's Beth Dutton. And I was like, is it? That is her. Yeah. Did she have a boob job? Yeah, I think she's had a boob job since then. I don't know, man. Those look relatively natural.

Oh, she was in the curse. Yeah, the curse. But I think they're a little bigger because you get a really good side boot view. Yeah. Which is drawing water in the bathtub. Yeah, I definitely remember that scene. All right. Yellowstone.

Yep. Flopping around everywhere. Which makes them look real to me. Whoever her surgeon is, did a great job. Well, listen to three guys talk about the moving men, huh? This is the kind of conversation. You get to your boobs flopping around. Where are we talking about boobs at the end?

At the end of the day. All right. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode. It's not necessarily toxic. Masculinity is not always a bad thing. All right. All right. We hear you.

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It's a movie that started at all. Wormwood. This is how me and Lance met. Road of the Dead. Just happened to be... Well, we met through binge media. Mm-hmm. Became Facebook friends and just one day just happened to both of us who are watching

Wormwood at the same time. And then here we are. Yeah. And we're coming up on our anniversary, six years. Holy shit. Oh, is that real? Yeah. We don't know how the fuck Philip ended up in the group.

I mean, you yanked you into the group, I guess, huh? I just showed up one day. Yeah, I remember. We did a kind of like a dry test run, what the show was going to be, and then you were like, do you think we should have a third? because I know a guy. Right.

And it was Phil. And the rest is history. And here I am. Fucking things up years later. But yeah, we are going to do Wormwood. Getting hate mail from this one. I hope so, man. My job is not complete unless we do.

We are going to do Wormwood, the original one, which I believe that was, what was that called, Road of the Dead? Yes, Road up the Dead. as the new one that just came out recently, Wormwood Apocalypse. Yeah, and where do you go from there, right? Well, I heard they're trying to make a TV series, too.

That would be cool. Let's see how the new movie is. I'm excited. It looks good to me from the trailer. From the movie, I think. So anything like the first one, it should be good. All right. Well, Philip.

I'm going to bump it up, do seven. All right. All right. Because I'm taking my interpretation of it. Because like legitimately as as a movie had they really nailed the story, I think it could have been a very easy nine. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's all Alex Garland because he's the one who, but you know.

That's what I'm saying? Talented dude. Yeah. What do you expect from something that sits on a Christmas tree two months out of the year, right? Garland, Black Christmas. Come on. I know. I know. All right. Story was made for it.

Until the horror returns, Brian. Good night.