The Horror Returns - THR - Ep.#48: The Thing (1982) & The Void (2016) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: November 14, 2021

This week, it's all about excellent practical effects, as we check out The Void as well as the classic Carpenter film The Thing. Thanks for listening!

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This is a horror podcast, and horror movies, movies tend to be are rated, so you can pretty much expect us to be as well. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Phillip. How's it going, guys? It's going pretty good. I'm alive and I'm here, man. We're making it happen. What the hell is that? Somebody's tortured some kids.

Oh, do you hear some stuff in the background? Let me yell at him to call. I'm at the mother-in-law's house right now. I've locked myself in the room with the dog. So we're chilling. Hey, I've got a better idea, man. Why don't you yell out there to ask them what was their cool of the week? This is a movie.

Brian, I know you've seen this one. Philip, have you seen the eyes of my mother? I have not. I think I remember watching the preview for it, though. You're missing out. You saw it. Like literal eyes, right? Yeah, I've seen it.

What did you think, Brian? And what was your overall impression of it? A little slow. It's a slow burn. But I think the overall story kept me in it. The main actress was pretty wacky in the movie. Right. But, you know, without giving anything away, it was, you know, she was kind of brought up that way.

So, you know, I mean, overall, I enjoyed it. You know, I, I'm learning to appreciate it. appreciate the slow burn movies more lately. So I believe it's on Netflix, right? Right now? Yeah, I watched it on Netflix. In fact, it's only like an hour and 15 minutes, I think. I watched it pretty much basically during a lunch break.

Yeah. So it was kind of a quick watch. But yeah, I mean, it is a slow burn. I think the acting edit is really good. I'm not sure who that guy. Oh, actually, you know what? I do know who that guy was that play. the fellow that showed up early in the movie on their farm.

Uh-huh. Uh, you guys, well, you guys are both seeing the O-A, right? Yes. Okay, you know the one guy in there that's, that's got the beard that's such a fucking asshole to everybody else? Oh, yeah, yeah. Same, same actor. One of the prisoners? Yeah, one of the prisoners.

He's always a jerk. Oh, the guy with the dreads? The guy with the dreads. Yeah, that's it, dude. Okay. That is him. Yeah, I like this. movie because it was super fucking morbid and dark, man. I mean, they did some things in this movie

and she did some things in this movie that they just made my stomach turn. And I haven't, I haven't felt that emotion at a movie in a long time. So I've really enjoyed it. I thought the ending maybe left a little bit without going into anything left a little bit to be desired. But, you know, I mean, hell, for a really, really small budget little independent black and white film, I thought it, I thought it did really, really well. I really enjoyed it. The eyes of my mother, and it is on Netflix. You said it's on Netflix?

Yep. Oh, okay. I'll check it out, man. Yeah, and we know you watch a lot of Netflix stuff, Philip. You find the cheesiest, shittiest and shittiest on Netflix, right? I do, man. I look at some awful things on Netflix. Like, I'll all rival Brian's

sequel watching. You know what? I watched this, week, my little girl was really into dinosaurs for some reason. And so I threw on Jurassic Park. And man, that thing holds up surprisingly well. Like, if you go back and watch the original, it was, it was a whole lot of fun. And I mean, the graphics are still pretty decent, you know? Like, I really enjoyed myself the whole time. Plus, like, she was getting all, like, wonder-eyed when they first showed the dinosaurs on that big scene and they're playing the big, epic music and I was like, that's

kind of how I felt, so I was excited. Yeah, as long as I said, that piece of shit, Jurassic World, right? I like Jurassic World. It's a lot better than Lost World. Which one was the third one? The third one, no, that's

the second one. Is that the second one? Okay. Yeah, where I had Vince Moore and had a gymnastic girl that like, gymnastics kick one of the dinosaurs in a face or something. That movie was a piece of shit. I don't know. They were all pretty awful up until the last one.

Yeah, I remember you talking about that one, Brian. You brought that one up a few weeks ago, I think. Yeah. It was amazing. Amazingly bad. My cool of the week, as far as TV, I didn't really watch anything. I did catch the new season of the Ultimate Fighter, which is I kind of dropped off that show,

but this season's very intriguing. They're actually bringing back past people that was on the show in previous seasons. Some of them actually won and just didn't really cut it in the UFC. They even, matter of fact, they even have an actual person that's fighting for them that's on the show.

and man i need to go back and watch that see i fell off of it too i haven't watched it in a little bit yeah they they they got uh i don't know if anybody knows joe stevenson he was uh season two this is season 25 yeah oh wow he's season two he's season two winter and he's back it's it's got my attention again because you know a lot of these guys you know were supposed to be big stars and you know some of them had like personal family reasons or one guy had alcohol problem, you know, just different reasons they didn't cut it on the show. And this is kind of like their second chance. Hmm. So it kind of adds to the comeback.

Kind of adds to the drama. But as far as movies, I was, I was listening to the Hail Ming podcast. Yeah. They reviewed a movie that I actually forgot that I had bought. I had bought the Scream Factory edition of Pumpkinhead. Oh, yeah, that's right. Oh. I've never seen that.

I mean, it's very 80s. But it was directed by Stan Winston, who's known for his makeup and special effects. And the actual creature of Pumpkinhead is amazing. Yeah. And I totally recommend this movie. The acting's a little off. I mean, besides Lance Hendrickson, you know, there's a lot of bad acting going on in this movie. but like I said, I think it's a watch just for the creature effects.

And another thing I had to watch this movie, listening to the Hail Ming podcast, they said the act, I can't pronounce her name. Mayam Balak, Balak, she was Blossom on the TV show Blossom. Oh, yeah, sure. I guess this was the very first movie. She was just like a random person in a group or something. Yeah, I would. That was described.

If I didn't hear the podcast, I would have never known. was in the movie. Right. So, yeah, that's pretty much my cool little week. Definitely recommend the Ultimate Fighter and Pumpkinhead. A couple of Blu-ray and actually some video game picks. Blu-ray, we got the Belko experiment coming on digital June 13th and Blu-ray June 27th. Reanimator two-disc set coming from Arrow Video on July 25th.

Love that movie. animator. And as far as video game, um, we actually got a release date for Friday the 13th. Uh, this game, I've been waiting for this game and it just keeps getting pushed back and

push back, but we got a set release date of May 26th. Hmm. And, um, uh, one more game. Jason,

right? Yes. You can, or is it just randomly named Friday the 13th? Just to make, sure, you know, you got to check on these things. No, this is... I buy this fucking thing and Jason is not in it.

I'm going to be super pissed. This is a Friday the 13th. You can either play as Jason or you can play as one of the camp counselors. Ah. And you can actually go... I totally have to do this. And you can actually go online with other people so there can be a group of you playing at the same time as counselors.

Yeah, one more game. This game came out. originally in 1992 it was very controversial. It was called Nighttrap. It is actually getting a release, an anniversary release on Xbox and PS4. Okay, now correct me if I'm wrong, but Night Trap, that's the one that was basically like video clips, and it was a lot of, like, chicks and skimpy negliges and stuff like that. There's like a murder in the house or something like that?

Yes, you're correct. So was it, was it a VHS? game or? No, it was originally for the Sega CD game system back in the early 90s. Oh, wow.

Yeah. So they are releasing it sometime late spring, early summer and it'll be digitally released for Xbox 1 and PS4. And you can actually get a limited physical

copy for PS4. That's a a collector's edition. Right. And from there, we're going to move on to some headlines. Disney just released some big movie dates for upcoming movies. Avengers 4 will be May 3rd, 2019. And from what I'm hearing, this is after Avengers 3, it's going to kick off a whole new, I guess they're not even calling it phase 4.

Okay. There's going to be some major changes. So it's not going to be Infinity War Part 2 then? From what I'm reading, no. Hmm. Okay. Star Wars episode. Because I heard that Iron Man is out. Yeah.

From what I read Robert Downey Jr. after, I think after Avengers, he's done. not too sure when his contract ends. I know originally Chris Evans said he didn't want to play Captain America no more, but he has since changed his mind. Yeah, I heard that. I think with the, because there was a big shakeup. There was a big shakeup with the executives. Why would you walk away from that?

No, why would you walk away from that payday? I mean, it makes no sense. Oh, I know. Yeah. That's what I was saying. Well, I think there was a lot of rumors. I thought you're talking about the kids screaming in the background. I can't get rid of that.

I think there was a lot of rumors he wanted to retire from acting that he wanted to direct. Evans? Chris Evans wanted to direct. Okay. Yes. Star Wars Episode 9 is coming May 23rd, 2019. They are starting to switch the December date from to May now for the Star Wars movies. I don't believe it.

I don't believe it. I don't think it'll happen. I think they'll stick with December, but I mean, time will tell, but it's just working too well. We're getting Hans Solo around that time. Oh, so they're going to start doubling down every year. I mean, it depends on how big this thing. I mean, it's big now, but we'll see. Indiana Jones, July 10th, 2020.

No, come on. Will Harrison Ford be around then? No. If he's still alive, I was going to say, man. Oh. And they said that the only Indiana Jones is going to be Harrison Ford. They're not going to put anybody else in that character role. I don't know how that's going to work.

Do you think this is the final Indiana Jones? If they want Harrison Ford to play him, yeah. Unless they start doing CGI Harrison Ford, huh? Yeah. Like 24, 24 year old Dr. Jones again? No, I don't know. I think Harrison Ford can hang in there a lot longer. I just, I'm concerned about him physically because I know he insists on doing a lot of his own stunts. And I know he, he hurt himself on the Crystal Skull movie.

My understanding, he also heard himself on the Star Wars movie, right? Didn't he break an ankle? Yeah, he had a door fall on his leg or something. Oh, yeah. Didn't he get a plane crash too? Yeah, I thought so, man. It's like what the... Yeah, at one point. This is a tough dude, man.

But, I mean, Wins' is like going to run out, you know? Too old for this shit. All right. X-Files is returning for a 10-episode event series, late 2017, early 2018. Man, I never watched the new stuff. Yeah, like, I love the old ones, but I never watched... I watched, like, the first three episodes of the new ones. I say I know a lot of people were really enjoyed the last season.

Yeah, not my cup of tea. Yeah, I think I watched maybe three or four episodes of the original series, and it just never really caught me. Scott Derrickson, director of Dr. Strange and exorcism of Emily Rose, is directing Lock and Key, which is going to be a series, I believe, on Hulu. Lock and Key originally was a comic book for IDW, and it was written by Joe Hill and illustrated by Gabriel Rodriguez. They're really trying to make this Hulu thing happen, aren't they? A quick synopsis for Lock and Key. Lock and Key revolves around three siblings who, after the gruesome murder of their father, moved to their ancestral home in Maine, only to find the house has magical keys that will give them a vast array of powers and abilities.

Little do they know a devious demon also wants the keys and will stop it. Nothing to attain them. Got to love those devious demons, man. I mean, is there really any other kind? That's the part that got my attention. more movie news James Juan everybody knows James Juan

and Alexandra Aja who directed The Hills Have Eyes remake and high tension are joining forces to make a movie called Smart House Synopsis for Smart House is

Smart House is a thriller about a family in the witness protection program placed in the custody of the state of a state of the art anonymous smart house when a group of assassins

locates the family the house goes into a lethal defense mode it sounds really familiar hasn't this been done seven or eight times in the last 10 years yeah

yeah but I'm a I mean it's James Juan and I do like Alexaja Alex Elijah also did Piranha 3D and horns yeah

ah okay okay So I'm definitely Oh, that's a pretty good one. Plus the Hills Have Eyes Remake was really good. Something that we had talked about on our Fate of the Furious podcast, Dwayne The Rock Johnson and Jason Stathen are officially getting a spinoff movie. So they kissed and made up, huh? Oh, it was Ben Diesel.

No, that's right. Okay, sorry, Vin Diesel was the one that was supposedly... Which, um, listening to the League of Geeseel. week's podcast, they, uh, they talked about some news, uh, about the Vin Diesel, um, rock beef. Apparently, right. Apparently there was a stinger end credit scene that would have set up a rock, uh, Jason State the movie, but apparently Ben Diesel, uh, put a stop to it.

Oh, no. Yeah, apparently they filmed it. This didn't want to do it. This Vin Diesel rock thing is a real thing. Like, they really don't like each other. Well, I heard they for the movie, because they're confirmed to be in the next one. So I heard as far as the movie they have made up, but no, they don't like each other. That's going to be, that's going to be awkward.

I'm sorry, dude, if you're on the rocks, bad side, I cannot be on board with you. Wow. This will also feature Charlize Theron, so she will return in some kind of way as a villain. Brian You listen to horror news radio, right? Yes. I hate to say this, but I got to tell you, I think it's going to be the same thing that I heard,

I think I heard one of those guys mentioned that they think in like the next movie, she's going to come around and be a good guy? I wouldn't be surprised, but honestly, I think, I think if this movie is a hit, I don't, I think people would rather see The Rock and Jason Statham, then the fast and furious. Well, you know, and then they could, hey, you know what, this could solve the whole problem. If they're having

problems with, or if the Rock's having problems with Venn, yeah, man, now we can have two franchises going at once. Those two can go off and kind of do their own thing, and then then Diesel can bring a few more people into the family there, you know? That's a lot of star power

you're taking from the main movie series. I know, I know, but they've done it before, man. They can do it again. Yeah, and my original thought was, you know, I mean, how many more of these Fast and Furious movies can they possibly do? But, I mean, look how well the last one did. Yeah, I think it's about to hit a billion already. I wonder if anybody ever said, but I really wonder how many of these James Bond movies can they really do. Yeah, but I don't think it's the same thing, man.

All right, fair enough. Because you can keep recasting James Bond. You've got to be real hard to recast Luda Chris, right? I suppose so. Okay, we got some schedule changes for some upcoming movies. Insidious Chapter 4 moves from October 20th, 2017 to January 5th, 2018. The Predator is moving from February 9th, 2018 to August 3rd, 2018, which the insidious one kind of seems like they're a little worried. as far as box office.

But from what I'm hearing, the Predator is being moved to the end of the summer movie, the big box office summer movies because they got a lot of faith in the next Predator movie. As well they should. Summer Blockbuster.

If it's got a good trailer, man, that's all they need. They have posted pictures on Facebook, so they are filming, currently filming it. X-Men movie news. They just released

we are getting three X-Men movies next year. The first one announced is New Mutants, April 13th, Deadpool 2, June 1st, and X-Men Dark Phoenix November 2nd. They already did Dark Phoenix. What the fuck? Well, you know, none of that counts because days of future pass.

Oh, man. All right. So they're just going to read... I'm very confused with this whole X-Men series now. No kidding. kidding. No kidding. Yeah. Who's going to be in new mutants? Is it, is it X-23? Well, I don't even know how that works. I don't know what timeline they're on anymore. Yeah. I know as far as cast... No, that's what I was saying. I know as far as casting, they got the actress Anya Taylor Joy. She was in the witch

and split. Okay. She was the main actress. Okay. And Maisie Williams from... Big eyes? Yeah, and Maisie Williams from Game of Thrones. which one from Game of Thrones? Is that the Which chick from Game of Thrones? Areas? Aria Stark. Okay.

I am going to butcher this name. Taja Formiga, who is the younger sister of Vera Formiga, has joined the cast of the Nunn, which is the Conjuring spinoff movie. And also the actress Bonnie Aaron's who played the Nun

and The Conjuring is going to reprise a role. Interesting. Okay. Creepy character. Real quick, DC News, I'm pretty sure Kevin's going to be bummed out about this one, but the show Powerless has already been pulled out the NBC schedule. That's what I heard. Coming next year, we're going to get a DC streaming service,

and that's where the Teen Titans show is going to be. Oh, that's how they're going to do that. I was curious how that was going to work if that was going to be. So what's they going to do for the CW? As far as I know, Teen Titans has nothing to do. with the CW Universe. Quick, a little information

I got on Teen Titans that will be centered around the character Dick Grayson. It follows a group of young soon-to-be superheroes recruited from every corner of the DC universe

in this action-adventure series. Dick Grayson emerges from the shadows to become a leader of a fearless band of new heroes that include Starfire, Raven, and others.

And another show that I'm a big fan of is the cartoon series Young Justice. It'll be like Power Rangers, but way cooler. Definitely. A show that I'm a big fan of is Young Justice.

Season three of that show is going to be also on the streaming service. So here's my question. D.C. is doing, basically it's going to be a D.C. network. Is that correct? Yes. Okay, they're not going to want the CW still having all their shows competing against them for D.C. viewership, are they? You know what?

I, to be honest, I have not watched not one show from any of these new seasons. I just, I don't hate the shows. I don't hate the shows. It's just, they're like 30 episodes of season and I just didn't care anymore. I don't know. Maybe this, I don't know. I don't know. I'm very intrigued about this Teen Titans show and especially that they're doing it on

their own kind of streaming service. So it kind of sounds like there won't be any restrictions that they're going to do as far as the show. Hmm. I don't know. Phillip, what are your thoughts, man?

Well, I mean, what kind of restrictions are we worried about with Teen Titans? I mean, how bad can it really get? I'm not downloading any new channels or any of that bullshit so that I can watch it. But if it's easy access, I'll

totally watch the Teen Titans thing. All right. David Fincher is confirmed to direct World War Z-2, and it will start filming January 2018. You know, I don't think that the first one was strong enough to, like, weren't a second one, really, to be honestly.

I agree. David Fincher, change your guys' mind? He's one of my favorites, but maybe not particularly. What do you think, Phil? Not really. I'm not as big a director guy as y'all are. Yeah, well, Finchers, Finchers definitely one of the best. I mean, if anybody can do it.

I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what would win me over, Brian, if they went away from the format of the first movie, and they went more to the format of the book, which is basically a series of vignettes. Basically, the book was like 10 or 12 short stories in a post-zombie world. Okay. And, you know, they took place roughly in chronological order as far as the stories went,

but they were all completely different characters and completely different scenes. So if they did it more like an anthology type thing and actually took some of the stories right out of the book and Fincher was directing it, then yes, I would be game. You know, what you're telling me right there is something I could see him doing. Something I was excited about when I first heard it,

but then they also released the director of the movie and it just totally took me out. This is something from my childhood. Masters of the Universe. Live action movie Is coming. December 18th, 2019. I was all in on this.

Right. But then they announced the director is Mick G. I don't know if you guys know Mick G. Oh, I love this show, Chuck, man. Come on. Yeah, he also did Charlie's Angels and Terminator Salvation. I don't want him doing my Masters of the Universe movie. I want someone that did like Game of Thrones.

episodes or something, maybe one of the directors of the Thor movies, but not this guy. I think you're asking a lot, man.

I'm not sure that's going to happen. It's got to be better than that 80s shit that came out with Dolphunkren and yeah. I mean,

that's what I'm telling myself. It's got to be at least better than that. But I guess we'll see in a couple years. Mm-hmm. And our last news, which I was saving for the end, because it's a movie that we, I think we all rated it pretty high.

They just announced the title and date for the Unbreakable Split sequel. Ah. And it will be called Glass. And it will come out January 18, 2019. Stars confirmed as Bruce Willis, James McAvoy, Samuel L. Jackson, and Anya Taylor Joy. I am definitely excited for this, especially split and Unbreakable are, I'm about to rewatch split probably here tonight. They're kind of high up there with my movies for M. Knight Shalema, that guy. Shalom and Dingong?

Yes, that guy. So I'm super excited that we're getting these two worlds, well, the same world, but these two movies into one. yeah definitely it sounds I mean how can they go wrong with this one I mean the Unbreakable and Split were both pretty awesome

it's also super cool on the rewatch so you all have fun with that all right and that was our news all right so that's quite a quite a few news stories this week you found out Brian so as with every show it's time to take a little

trip down to the trailer park. We take a little piece of paradise. We out here in the woods, there's always something going on down in the trailer hook. I got her made in the same. We take a look at the big, small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's the first new trailer this week? The first one we're going to review is a new Hulu series, Dimension 404, starring Robert Buckley, Joel McHale, Ashley Ricard, Constance Wu, and Patton Oswald, narrated by Mark Hamill. Hmm. A quick synopsis, an anthology series that explores the wonders and terrors of our digital age from outrageous horror comedy to mind-bending action adventure.

Hmm. What did you guys think about this one? Philip. I have no idea what's going on here. I'm super fucking confused. I was like, I don't know. whether is this a joke?

I mean, I'm not even entirely sure that this series is real. It may just be a commercial to fuck with this. I hate to say this, but it almost, I got the impression that it was a

network TV knockoff of Black Mirror. You know? I mean, I just wasn't that impressed. Not with a trailer anyway. I mean, I'm sure it'd be fun to watch if you got, you know,

and 10 hours or however many episodes there are to kill. But I'm not going to go out of my way to subscribe to Hulu to get this. That's for sure. A lot of comedy actors in here. Mm-hmm. Look like it. Okay, moving on to our next trailer is for Blood Drive,

which is part of Sci-Fi's new Grindhouse series. Okay. Starring Alan Richardson, Christina Ocha, Thomas Dominique, Marma, Corollette, and others. Synopsis for this. set in the near dystopian future, the series features a former cop who is forced to take part in a death race in which cars are run on human blood as fuel. All right, this one, this one gave me the exact opposite reaction, guys, to the one we just talked about. Because I heard Dimension 404 described and I thought it sounded pretty cool. And then the trailer just completely turned me off.

This one, I heard it described and I thought, what in the fuck are they doing? and I fucking love this trailer. It looks like they're putting so much into this. If they can keep all these different things going on for a season, this will be a damn fun show. But is it a whole series with just this stuff happening? Because I feel like it would make a super cool, like indie movie. Right.

But like stretching it out for a series may get old. Yeah, from what I understand, this blood drive is going to be the first. There's going to be other series because they're doing the whole grind house thing on the sci-fi channel. But that's cool. I like the direction they're going in, at least. You know, no more mutant sharks and shit. I'll tell you one thing. I could sit there.

Yeah, we just have cars that run on blood. I could sit there for an hour or night and look at Christina Ochoa, that's for sure. I totally agree. We don't have long to wait for this series. it's coming June 14th. Oh, cool. I'm going to check it out. Because when they, Philip, what did you think?

Like when they started going into, because it looked cheesy at first. You know, like, she opened the hood up and the engine, like, ate that guy and everything. But when they got to the part where they were... I liked that part. I thought it was cool. All right.

That's cool. But what got me is when they showed, like, all the different grind house trope characters, like they showed the cannibals and the, cult members and all the different groups, I thought, man, they might could do a lot with this show. Fingers crossed on this one. Yeah, keep it

keep it, keep it kind of quirky and cool. I think they can pull it off. All right, on to our final trailer, which was the biggest one of the week. Kingsman, the Golden Circle. Star in Taryn Edgerton, Colin Firth,

Mark Strong, Channing Tatum, Holly Berry, Julianne Moore, Jeff Bridges, Pedro Pascale, Vinny Jones, Sophie Cuxon, and a cameo by Elton John, directed by Matthew Vaughn. When their headquarters are destroyed at the world, and the world is held hostage, the Kingsman's journey leads them to the discovery of an allied spy organization in the U.S. These two elite secret organizations must band together to defeat a common enemy. Yeah, I mean, the first movie was pretty outstanding.

So I have no reason to believe that this one is not going to be. I'll just have to wait and see it when it comes out. I do think I saw a scene from Dispicable Me, though, where they went down into a submarine or something? Yeah, yeah, I know what she's talking about. We are getting this September 22nd. Yeah, we got a couple things. We got Darren Wilson messaged just and said,

dude I am digging this get out slash stepford wives episode I couldn't find a Facebook discussion group for it is there one um I don't know is there one guys yeah Brian you're our our uh our social our social guru here man make sure what he knows how we can get Facebook discussions going and how else they can reach us and and give us uh yeah just type in the horror returns on

Facebook. We are also on Twitter, Instagram, and our email address is the horror returns at gmail.com. A Facebook discussion group is something I think we can we can start one up. That's what everybody wants. It would be actually really cool to

discuss stuff with the listeners. So yeah, yeah, that'll probably be coming in the near future then. cool okay cool i'm not sure how it works but i'll make it happen well we'll we'll do figure it out yeah we'll figure it out sounds good we're gonna on the fly guys we're making it happen um so uh stephen loblad also posts uh pet was great see you guys that's what i said yeah mr nine out of ten huh he said uh creepy as hell but great yeah i yeah i was I was kind of high on it when I reviewed it.

I don't know if it's quite a nine, but it's still up there, man. I really enjoyed it. It was a fun movie. And Stephen Loblad agrees with me. So I like that. There you have it.

Then this week we want to give a shout out to our friends, Marcy, I'm sorry, Marcy. I can't ever remember. Super Marcy. Papandrea. Yeah, there you go. Well, it's not.

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Look for great reviews and coverage of all the films from them. Also, they're in Australia. That's the names. So they get to see a lot of movies before we do. They already have a full review up for Guardians of the Galaxy, too. I saw that. And I'm totally jealous. Thanks to everyone who reaches out to us.

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So the first movie, we're going to, we're actually doing the new movie, The Void, that has come out recently, is getting a lot of critical praise. And, Brian, I think you, yeah, you, you kind of came pretty, you did pretty, you did pretty good, I think, on the movie that you paired with it, although I think it might have been a little bit closer to a few of Carpenter's other movies, maybe dealing more with Cthulhu and things of that nature, but... Yeah, after watching the movie, there might have been some other movies that you could have paired with it, too, but we'll get into that in our review.

Well, you definitely can't go wrong with John Carpenter's The Thing, and this is one of those reviews, guys, that I'm going to mostly leave to the two of you. because I've obviously I've seen it quite a few times, but probably haven't seen it in about a year, which is when we kind of recorded a trial episode. So you guys have probably seen it a lot more recently. I'm going to let you guys do most of the reviewing, although I will give it a number, because I think I've seen it enough to do that. Going into trivia, The Thing, director John Carpenter, also known for Halloween.

They Live and Escape from New York. Ryder was Bill Lancaster. he was known for the Bad News Bears movies and this was originally based on a story called That's right It's based on a story called Who Goes There by John W. Campbell Jr. John Carpenter considers this to be the first of his Apocalypse trilogy

Prince of Darkness in the mouth of madness comprise the other two parts of the trilogy As this film moved into post-production Rob Botton, the special effects guy, found himself virtually living at the studio. He was forced to break from this when he was diagnosed with exhaustion

and admitted to the hospital. And this is some newer trivia I found that wasn't in the last time we talked about it, Brian. This movie has become part of the culture in Antarctica. It is a long-standing it is a long-standing tradition

in all British Antarctic research stations to watch the thing as part of their midwinter feast and celebration held every June, first. So, Brian, I already know how much

you love this movie. Philip, you want to go first on this one? Ryan just loves it because he lives in the fucking snow. Maybe.

Yeah, man. No, this is definitely one of my favorite John Carpenter movies. The thing is a

classic. Kurt Russell is phenomenal. All the characters, Like at first glance, they all seem like like stereotypes, but I think that they're just, they're just big characters. You know, I mean, like you got the black dude talking jive on the roller skates and, you know, like the, the dude with the sunglasses who's, uh, who, like chills and smokes weed and the rock and roll guy and all that. But I think they're just big characters, man.

And they put those characters in the movie to make it more interesting. And I think that they do a great job of it. the story's great the tension's great uh it's a classic you know there's not a whole lot more i can say about it the the the bad guy was awesome i love love love the practical effects when that dog turns into the other dogs and the thing you know what i mean the thing oh yeah it's uh it's crazy man it's uh it still holds up watching it today uh it was great And I watched I watched The Void before I watched

The Thing and I think that I'm glad that I did it that way Because it was very very pleasantly surprised When I watched the thing again, man It was awesome Well, like you said I fucking love this movie This is one of my favorite movies of all time Kurt Russell's the fucking man

Like Yeah, you know Yeah Philip you said it all I mean there's great practical effects Great performances is the whole paranoia and the not knowing who's the thing

I fucking love that in this movie you brought up the dog the dog scene in the kennel and another favorite scene of mine is the the spiderhead thing I guess thing oh yeah those are iconic those are iconic scenes

right there and like you said the dude knolls that's on skates and windows always smoking always smoking weed you know, it added to the movie. It didn't take nothing away. And let's not forget Mr. Wilford Brimley, who played Blair, Mr. Diabetes.

He was... He's going to be at the Texas Pritmare, by the way. That's right. He was bad shit crazy in this movie, but, you know, when you watch it multiple times, you know, was he really crazy? because, you know, he figured it out, you know, what, what could happen if this thing gets into civilization. So I like that whole performance. And of course, we can't forget about Keith David. Mm-hmm.

Another role where he plays someone that is not taking shit from nobody. And I always love that about his characters. But, yeah, I love this movie. I'm so big on practical effects. I always wanted to know does it really cost that much to do practical effects? Because a lot of movies that I think I would probably like even more if they did

practical effects instead of CG. But I always wanted to know, is it a cost thing? But as far as this movie, this is one of my all-time favorites. And I'm going to pass it over to you, Lance. yeah i mean i'll tell you what they did they did really right in this movie and i thought about it you know the more that i saw that thing you know remake or whatever it was where they were doing the fillings in the teeth and everything yeah uh my favorite scene in this was definitely the the uh the blood test oh yeah yeah you know what i should have brought that up because

i remember when i first seen that as a kid that scared the shit out of when it when it squealed and it jumped out of the yeah awesome so let me let me let me ask you guys a question. I heard a rumor that there was an, they interviewed someone recently. I don't remember if it was Kurt Russell or if it was, I don't know if it was Kurt Russell or Keith David or maybe just someone totally different, but isn't there like a new theory out? Brian, you would probably know this. You do a lot of reading. That maybe there is an Easter egg or not an Easter egg, but something hidden there at the very, very end that kind of does tell you which one of them is infected. Okay. I think it was somebody that worked on the movie Kind of put it out there that you could see Just I'm going to throw this out there

I did not watch the end of this because ever since I heard that I don't want to know I liked how they left it that you didn't know Right. But for anybody that wants to go And look for it apparently They're supposed to be a glimmer in someone's eyes and whoever I might

it might be vice versa but whoever has the glimmer in their eyes that's the actual person and the other person is the thing oh because they have kind of like

dead eyes they film where they look and that sounds like made up bullshit but from what I understand I also I own two copies

of this movie I have the the screen factory edition and I guess it came from an interview on the Blu-ray from one of the guys that worked on the movie

that this is supposed to be a thing in the movie, but I kind of turned it off the last five minutes, because I don't want to know. I love that you didn't know. Yeah, I'm with Phil. That kind of sounds like something that was either made up or speculative. But then again, I mean, maybe if they did kind of put it in there where whoever the thing was sort of had dead eyes that maybe didn't have,

didn't glisten in the light or something like that. But I mean, fuck. Nah, it's whoever you think it is. It's neither one of them. It's both of them. Who knows, you know? I mean, that's the beauty of the ending of this movie. And that's why the, again, not to bring up the remake again,

but that's why the ending of it wasn't nearly as impactful. I think we were pretty high on the remake, weren't we, when we did our demo episode? It was good, but it definitely was no 1989 thing. That's for damn sure. Yeah. Let's move on. our move on to our scores.

Phil, what's your, what's your rating for the thing, man? Man, I, as much as I kind of want to give it a 9.5,

I think I have to give it a 10. The thing is a pretty awesome. Wow. I think it holds right up there with the Exorcist for me. That's high praise, man. High praise indeed.

Brian, I think you're, you're going to be pretty close. if not there, huh? Yeah, I'm right there with him. This is a 10. Like I said, one of my all-time favorites. I re-watch this movie constantly.

John Carpenter, Kurt Russell, Keith David. Nothing more to say about it, 10. All right. All right, well, I will give it a super high score as well. I give it a nine. and I also find it to be up there, you know, pretty close to The Exorcist and films like that. It's one of the, if not one of my five favorite of all time. It's definitely one of my top ten of all times.

So, yeah, I mean, that's enough about the thing. We could, like I said, we can sit here and talk nines and tens all night about it, but we're going to move on to the void, which is our featured attraction this week. the new movie that's out, directors and writers were Jeremy Gillespie and Stephen Kostanski, also known for Father's Day. Either have you guys seen Father's Day?

The original or the remake? I don't know. I didn't know there was an original. I knew there was a Mother's Day. Father's Day, huh? Oh, I'm never mind. I'm thinking of Stepfather, the stepfather. That's like, what the hell? Does I have Eddie Murphy?

Oh, no, wait, that's Daddy Daycare. Don't listen to me. All right. Well, they did it. A murderer? This is the Father's Day description, guys. I think this is the right one. It may not be.

There's like three or four Father's Day. Now that you mention it, Brian, but it says a murderer, a priest, and a delinquent. Try to bring down a father-killing madman. Okay. That goes right on point. because there's also three or four different voids. That makes a lot of sense.

You're right. You had a lot of trouble finding this movie, didn't you? Well, no, it just happened to be, I didn't realize how many of them there were until after I'd watched it. And then I was like, oh, shit, I hope I watched the right one. Well, I will. When we were compared it to the thing, it had a very thing vibe to it, so it makes sense. I will tell you this. It was a crowdfunded project, so somebody liked it, or at least had faith in these games.

guys. As we kind of alluded to before, the monster, the cult, the planet, and the mystery behind it are based on H.P. Lovecraft's creation, Cthulhu. And final piece of trivia is that this film was originally shown at the 2016

Fantastic Fest, and later at the Toronto After Dark Film Festival. You guys mind if I go first? Go ahead. This could be a pallet cleanser if you guys agree with most of the reviewers that have seen this movie, because I'm going to go the opposite way and tell you that in my opinion, this movie was a piece of shit. Didn't enjoy, did not enjoy it at all.

I found it to be a very, very weak aping of a lot of different Carpenter movies and a lot of movies by other directors as well. and the impression I got from the very beginning is it didn't know what it wanted to be and yeah I mean maybe it was primarily a Cothulu mythos story or what have you and they had all the you know all all the tropes that you get in those like the person who goes mad because they're basically possessed by Cthuloo and Cthulhu channels them to kind of get into our world and then you've got of course the sacrifice that or sacrifices that happen and things like that Oops.

But the worst thing for me was that I didn't find a single actor in this movie that I cared for. I thought the main guy, that our main quote-unquote hero, the deputy character, whatever he was, was just completely wooden. I didn't see any buy in there. I didn't believe that any of the relationships that the people were having were real relationships. I didn't see any passion. People that were supposedly, that were the characters that were family members,

I didn't see any real familial love there, any reason to believe that they actually were. I didn't see any reason to believe that people that were supposedly in love had any passion whatsoever or any love. I thought that the, yeah, I thought that they kind of, what they did, in my opinion, with the effects,

was that they took, they made practical effects too practical. to me it almost seemed like this was sort of a joke making fun of carpenter films and stuff like that in certain places the special effects were so fucking horrible and and there was just okay so you've got the thing which was made in 82 which was a long time before this movie was made and yet when i saw when i when i saw the uh you know the creature coming out of the dog and the tentacles coming out and like you guys had mentioned the spider creature in the head that been in backwards and all that. I believed every minute of it. And a lot of it, I think, had to do the shrieking, the sound effects that went with it and the reactions of all the actors. I think all that helped sell the special effects. But the 1982 thing was a work of art as far as the special

effects go. I think this was just, to me, these guys were like hacks, you know, just basically putting blood and gore in just for the sake of putting in. It didn't even look realistic to me. I really thought that the Okay, so here's what I found. I'm sitting here watching them thinking, okay, so all right, cool. They're basically trying to make fun, or not make fun.

I shouldn't say that. Should give the filmmakers more credit than that. They're trying to pay homage to the thing here. Okay, cool. That's good. A little homage, a little homage. Now, wait a minute. When does homage just kind of become, you know,

basically just not, Like I said, I'm not trying to say they were making fun of it or doing that on purpose. I think these guys honestly felt that they were making a beautiful homage to the films and the filmmakers that they love. But I don't know. It just, okay, so it's just a copycat, in my opinion of a lot of movies. It was copycatting the thing. It was definitely copycatting in the mouth of madness. It was definitely copycatting Prince of Darkness.

Lots of scenes. And there was one scene where they brought some characters out, Brian. I thought, okay, here we go. Here's the Hellraiser characters. And they didn't do a goddamn thing with them. That just, that storyline ended there. It's like, okay, they got all these great characters. They obviously spent quite a bit of money on their costumes to make them kind of look like the Cinnabites.

And now they do absolutely nothing with them. Okay, what? And then they go, I thought the editing was atrocious, you know? They just, and I know some of this was intentional because they wanted a dreamlike quality. but in my eyes they just they just moved around and skipped around from scene to scene without a whole lot of logical reason to do it just it looked to me like poor editing so you know bad acting bad editing terrible storyline no originality whatsoever basically just aping a whole bunch of really great movies who's next I'm guessing we got that out of the way

Now you guys are going to be like everybody else that I've heard that loves this movie, I'm sure. I'm going to volunteer to go. I volunteer a tribute. Speaking of which, I'm going to compare this to a tenacious D song. This is not the greatest song in the world. This is just a tribute. All right, fair enough. I can see where you're coming from on every front that you just said.

And part of me agrees with you. Part of me got into the movie and kind of enjoyed it. But, and you know, I'd rather see bad practical effects, which some of these practical effects were bad, than bad CGI effects, because that totally takes me out of it. You know, I think that they were definitely going for a thing kind of quality. I don't know what kind of budget they have. had doing this with a crowdfunded project, but I mean, obviously the actors were no, there was nobody big name in it. Yeah, the, the, the, the, the, what was the, he's a deputy or whatever. He was, he irritated

the shit out of me through, through most of the movie, man. I tried to get on board with him, and he was just, I don't know, man, something about his stupid fucking hair. He makes me mad. But, uh, uh, uh, I, You know, it was okay to watch. It definitely is not the worst movie I've seen in a while. It had a good idea, man. It was just the follow through, you know? Like, they could have hit a home run if they just finished the damn swing, but they didn't do it.

They checked it. And they did what they could with the budget, I guess. I think that I was confused, especially at the end. I'm still not entirely sure what happened or what the whole thing was going on there, but I suppose we'll get into that in spoilers if we're going to be spoilers for this one. I don't know what the hell we're going to spoil because I'm still not entirely sure what the fuck happened. But, you know, it was just okay for me. I think I'm kind of middle of the road.

I didn't hate it, but I definitely didn't love it. Brian, what did you think, man? I actually liked it. Was it the best thing I've seen all year? No. Right. Um, it was a little slow in the beginning for me. Um, there was a, a lot of things in this movie that I think, Philip, you, you hit it right on the nose.

Um, if they would have took a full swing at it, it would have been a lot better. Yeah, there's a good movie in here somewhere. Yeah. Um, I actually like the practical effects. Um, for this to be a crowdfunded independent movie. I think they did what they could. And I thought there was a lot of creepy monsters. and effects going on that we'll get into in the spoil.

But there was a lot of things I wanted to see a lot more of. And I think, yeah, Lance, you said quite a bit about it. So I think we should just get into scores and just go straight into spoilers. Well, it was definitely, if the filmmakers are listening to us, and I'm sure they're not.

Good news, guys. It was no bye-bye man. It was definitely. No, bye-bye-bye, man. No, this was a good one and a half out of ten. Good effort. Good effort, guys. Good effort.

He's not good effort. One and a half out of ten. That's a kick in the nuts is what they is. Philip? Were you finished? Yeah, I think I'm going to give it a five. I think it's right middle of the road, man. They had a good concept.

I can't say I'm like really glad that I watched it but it's I'm not mad that I watched it. I don't know man. It just falls right in the middle for me. You know, like it was, I wish it was better. I wish it was better. I wanted to like this movie. I really did. Well, I paid $7 to rent it and I want to know how I get my $7.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, that's fair. Well, I am going to. to give it a very soft seven. Ah, not too bad. I think, I think there is a good movie here. I do want to see a sequel.

In my mind, I kind of, I kind of made the sequel up in my mind. I think there's a lot of good ideas in here. Yes, they may be borrowed, but, you know, a lot of movies we see borrow stuff from other movies. Right. I'll bring it up and spoil. There's a lot of, a lot of things I would like to see more, but I'm going to give it a off seven. I hope the second one has a bigger budget.

I'm sure it will. Like I said, I've heard a lot of good reviews about this. I know I'm in the minority here. I mean, I'm just, I just calls it like a season. I mean, I just was really looking forward to a good movie, and I didn't get it. So I was actually kind of pissed off. And then the characters in the fucking white, what the hell kind of robes they were wearing or whatever?

You guys ready to get it to spoilers? Yeah. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warm. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

Awesome. So that's what we're doing? Okay. So what was up with all these fucking acolytes and the white robes that would just kind of show up? I mean, how... I don't know, but I wish they did more with them. Yeah, because that's where I'm at. That's where I was at.

Part of the things I wanted to see more of was the cult. and I wanted more of, they mentioned the gateway, the infinite astro gate. I kind of wanted more of that stuff too, because you started getting a little science fiction in there. A lot of cool imagery. They had that triangle going on through the whole movie. So good ideas. Just follow through. Yeah, I don't know.

I just, okay, so do you guys, were you the same way I was, where it almost kind of seemed like yeah, maybe they were trying to go in one direction with, with the, okay, so it was the it was the doctor, right? The doctor was the one that allowed the Cthulhu's mythos into Earth or whatever

through the portal? Yes, I believe so. And it had something to do with God, help me out here, guys. He lost a daughter or he I don't know, I'm learning at the same time you're helping to see it. I just didn't see any connection between him and the acolytes or whatever.

See, that's really explain a lot. That's where I would want a sequel, because if I had it my way, the sequel would be a prequel slash sequel. Like, we would get flashbacks of what happened when he was, I guess,

getting involved in all that. And where the movie would go on forward would be the rest of the movie. I don't know if that's asking too much of these filmmakers to do. But, yeah, there was a lot of questions left unanswered in this movie.

Right. Yeah. It was like, you went, okay, how can you keep them in the hospital? I know we'll get a bunch of weird cult guys to come after him. Okay, well, what do they have to do with it? What? Will they keep them in the hospital? And I agree with you guys. I also had a problem with the deputy because

he was the biggest pussy in his fucking movie. He was constantly getting, yeah, he was constantly getting his ass kicked. That guy would not, that guy would last one day in law enforcement? No, he kind of reminded me of, what is his name?

You guy from Scream, Dewey? Yeah, Deputy Dewey. He was a less interesting deputy dewey. Right. Way less interesting. He was irritating to me a little bit, man. I don't know what it was. There was something with this stupid fucking hair.

He didn't like what he had going on, man. Like he was trying to be better than he was or something. you guys ever seen space balls? Yes. I couldn't get over the irritating fact that he seemed to be trying to channel Lone Star the whole time. Yeah, right? Did you get that, right?

A little bit. He kind of had that vibe. Oh, you kind of hit the hell of the head on that one, I think. One scene I really like, I like the scene with the pregnant girl. Right. When she made her turn and she got her, she slated. at the grandfather's throat. Yeah, that was super creepy.

Yeah, I thought that that scene was also creepy when the, the, whatever came out of her, whatever was birthed through her. Right. And it was just, it was coming after the people and it was still connected to her. And it was just dragging the body behind her. I thought that was, that was super, super disgusting. And there was, like, there was practical effects in here that I really liked. Right.

The scene, though, where they had the big monster and they start shooting it and it's just like, wiggling tentacles to be wiggling tentacles and I mean you can tell that it was like a just a straight up thing rip off but really badly done great way to put it it was yeah I mean it was like

I don't know man like they had one guy just wiggling some shit back there like it was pretending to be tentacles or something it was it was really it took me out of it for a second look how much like the thing we are that's awesome

oh man what else was going on in this movie guys help me out here I'm lost I hear what you were saying about Hellraiser because Frank Frank from Hellraiser

did show up at the end well I didn't even notice that it was it was the same actor no but when the doctor had pulled his face off he looked exactly yes yes oh yeah well I was see and I was okay with that I was okay with everything

that happened, I just didn't like the way that they did it or explained it. Like, I just, I wish it was better, man, because it was, it had such a good, like, promise, you know? Like, it's got such potential. And they just almost got it. Just didn't quite get there. Well, like I said, man, there's a lot of, I listen to a lot of horror podcasts, and there's a lot of people who really fucking love this movie. So there will, I'm sure, be a sequel. Brian, did you say there's already one approved or what?

No, that was just something I threw out there. I mean, there's a lot of people that love sports too. Right. Yeah, like I said, or like you said, there's a lot of people that like this movie. So hope, I mean, my hope is that they're going to take every criticism because there also is a lot of criticism about this movie. Okay. That they'll take that and fix it for the sequel. because my, I think overall my biggest thing was there was a lot of stuff that I was interested in this movie that just wasn't explained.

Yeah. And maybe moving forward, they'll correct that. Put some more of the cult guys in there, explain why the fuck they're there and all that. We could have ourselves a good movie here. Now, Lance, will this make it on your worst list? I don't know yet, man. We're still pretty early in the year, but I guess I asked for it, didn't I? About three weeks ago, did I or did I not ask for this?

I would say you made the statement that it's been a very good year. Oh, boy. Well, I should have had faith that there's somehow or another I'm going to get my five worst list by hook or by crook, you know? But, yeah, I mean, at this point, if the list, This was printed today. It would be on there for sure, Brian. You bet. Okay.

Absolutely. But, again, it's not as bad as the bye-bye man. Hey, maybe they'll listen to us and they'll put that on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the Blu-ray box. Oh, my gosh. Not as bad as my man. I don't, and you know what? For some reason I see a sequel being made.

For the bye-bye man? Yeah, I have not heard. Oh, stop it. Stop it. Because they made it for a cheat. They made the, It's called, hello. But I have not heard one, I have not heard one good review about that movie.

But I know it made a little bit of money because it was a small budget. Quick question, by any chance, you were talking about how it, you said it did make a little bit of money. Is it, do you see it being one of these, help me out here, what was the series that got so big? Paranormal activity, right? Oh, yeah. Do you see a, do you see a, do you see a, uh, Bible Man franchise? God, no. I pulled it up right here.

It made 20, over 26 million off of a $7 million budget. Ah, that's not that great, though. Boy, I'm bad. I mean, that's no, definitely no, definitely no Blair Wits, your paranormal activity, though, that's for sure. No. Well, I mean, paranormal activity. They were making it off of what, thousands of dollars the first one? Yeah.

So. Yeah, that was slow budget and super high grossing. So let me ask, let me ask you guys this. What was the bigger fuckup this year for Fay Dunaway? Being in the bye-bye man or that little, that little guffaw at the Oscars? That's a tough one, huh? I'm sorry, I'm sorry you didn't mention that this one won best picture. Actually, she wouldn't even say it. She handed it off to Beatty, remember? The card.

So that's why I don't say it's her fuck up. Yeah. All right. Because Warren Beatty, you can tell he looked at it and he knew something was wrong. Something was wrong, right? But he read it anyways. So I wasn't. I wouldn't say it was either one of them. Yeah, I'm going to go with Philip and I'm going to say the bye-bye man, because nobody should have been in that fucking movie. Fair enough. But we just can't quit talking about it, can we? Well, we needed something to replace the darkness, so. Right. I don't know, come next year, I don't know what that movie will be, but something we'll

We're not even halfway through this year yet. Mm-hmm. Well, you can have faith, for sure. So what, you guys got any more? You want to say about the void? No. I think you said a whole lot in your review and I somewhat counteracted. I still think people should check it out.

I mean, you know, opinions vary. Yeah. It wasn't a bad watch. It just wasn't amazing. But everything you said, Lance, I can totally see, though. All right. Well, fair enough. So that's this week now.

of course we always want to thank you listeners for catching another episode of the horror returns we'd love to hear your feedback and I think we're gonna sounds like Brian's gonna have some other ways for you guys to do that pretty soon as well so we should get an uptick and feedback I think once we get that listener group started now next week it's gonna be another one that's gonna be a little bit out of the box

because of course we do have the Frightmare weekend so all of the all of the times that we normally record the show are going to be really up in the air because of course Brian unfortunately I know you're not going to be there with us but Phil and are going to are going to be in the Dallas area attending that throughout the entire time frame but we definitely do still want to get a show done for next week I believe we are doing Guardians of the Galaxy volume two well that's going to be a hard one not to do That's going to be a thing.

And it was up in the air, which movie, a lot of good ideas was suggested, but I think we are going with Howard the Duck as our companion movie. This should be a lot of fun. Yeah, I think this will make a lot of interesting conversation. Okay. Are we going to have a guest? So, but I do believe we will have one. And would it possibly maybe be our head writer? The horror returns.

Our resident fact checker, yes, I believe Patrick will be on. All right, well, we can only hope. Patrick, if you're listening, and I know you are, don't let us stay out. I have no idea when we're going to record or how we're going to pull this off. But I don't know. How early you think we're going to be back on Sunday, Phil?

Or do you want to try to do a recording when we're there? What are you guys all thinking here? I mean, you guys just let me know I can make it happen on my end I probably won't I usually watch the movies early but I think the earliest I'll be able to see it is Friday night

so All right Well if you could I guess I guess get in touch with Keep in touch with Patrick and just kind of let him know what's going on And we'll play it by ear All right Hey sorry

I cut it out for a minute It's all good, man. I think we're set on what we're doing next week. We just need to figure out exactly when we're doing it. Okay. So until the horror returns again, Buenos Natchos. Good night.