The Horror Returns - THR - Ep.#56: Maximum Overdrive (1986) & Transformers: The Last Knight (2017) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: December 18, 2021

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So if you don't want to hear the spoilers, just turn us off at that point, and we promise you won't miss a thing. You can go see the movie, come back, and pick up that part of the show later. Not a problem. Now, we generally assume that since you are listening to a horror podcast, you've probably already seen the classic film. So there's always going to be spoilers when we discuss anything that has been out for at least one year. The other thing we may do from time to time is use a few four-letter words. A few? This is a horror podcast, and horror movies tend to be R-rated, so you can pretty much expect us to be two.

And as always, I'm Lance, and I've got my co-hosts and friends, Brian and Philip, in the house. How's it going, guys? It's going pretty good. All right, man. You ready to jump into Cool of the Week, Brian? I watched quite a bit this week. Got another one off the list. The Descent from this was submitted by our listener,

Aaron Williams. Wilson, I'm sorry. Aaron Wilson. Yeah, you know what? Somebody else told me they watched the dissent this week. It's got a cool cover. I saw you posted that on Facebook. Is that?

Which one is that? That's not where they go down in the caves and stuff, is it? Yeah, that's the one. Oh, yeah, I've seen that. Got the little cave-dwelling creatures that are down there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's very claustrophobic. It just kind of creeps you out like that.

It was a good watch. definitely thanks for the submission on that one and then uh i got a lot of tv in actually this week uh finished american gods nice all right that it's definitely a cool of the week man yeah uh i would have to say so far it's probably my favorite show this year i know right that's actually my cool of the week too i'm like sad that it's also my not cool of the week because it's over yeah philip didn't realize that that uh eighth episode was the first episode was the finale, man. I know. I was like, oh, that's it? It was

kind of a bummer. But we are getting a season two, though. It's definite. Yeah, I figured. Awesome. They have some big talent in that one. Yeah. Caught the first episode of The Mist. Oh, we haven't seen that yet. You know what? I'm

behind, dude. I've got it recorded, though. Yeah, I haven't seen that, nor have I seen blood drive yet. Have you guys kicked that out? No. Cut that out. caught the first episode of that, too. Man, you get a lot of cool of the week going, man. Yeah, I'll just say on both of them, especially the mist. The mist gave me enough to, I'm going to continue watching it.

It didn't, I liked it. It didn't give you too much in the first episode. It didn't hit you with just, you know, creatures and stuff. It kind of built up some backstory on the characters. Okay. And, yeah, so far I'm liking it. So was it a slow burn? um a little bit

it's TV it kind of has to be yeah but um I was interested definitely in a couple of situations that they were setting up between characters and um and by the time

the episode ends uh that's when the miss really takes over the town and so I'm definitely uh interested in watching uh I think they put out all the first three episodes already so okay oh wow I don't know if you have to go online to see it, but I think the first three episodes are available.

And Blood Drive is pretty cool. The acting's not the best, but it's very entertaining. It's very entertaining, though. Do you think the acting is not the best by design, possibly? Possibly, because, you know, it's supposed to be, you know, a grind house type of... Classic. Right. Kind of vibe.

But, um... That's kind of what I was thinking. Yeah, sci-fi has definitely... definitely stepped it up. Right. I will say, with their TV shows. Yeah,

I would agree, man. Starting with Battlestar Galactica and then the expanse. Yes. And then you get this and there's, oh, why, I don't know,

Earp. I haven't seen that yet, but I think, yeah, did you recommend that to me or something, Philip? I've never seen it, but I heard it's really good.

I also heard the magicians was pretty good. I've got that in my Netflix queue also. Haven't started that one, either of those. But, yeah, definitely, Definitely in the queue.

My cool of the week is, I'll put it to this way, I had a lot of not so cool of the week. Uh-oh. And that is because I'm catching up on a couple of other TV shows that it's almost like I have to keep watching them because I'm so invested in them. One of them is Better Call Saul. I think it's, man, it's just a shadow of Breaking Bad. It's just not even close.

Really? Yeah, it's really dragging. Now, is it because I was listening to the binge cast and they were, basically saying it's probably because you already know what the end game is to the show. So it's not really... That could have a lot to do with it. Yeah. But I don't know, to me, it's just not that much happening.

The one scene where Nacho was having to make those fake pills and change them out to try to kill the grandfather or the old dude. I can't remember the character's name, but you remember the scene I'm talking about, right? Yeah. I thought that was pretty tense, but that kind of had me on the edge of my seat. Other than that, it's been a bore. And you want to talk about a bore? I may have to tap out a fucking house of cards. I mean, that is getting so boring, dude.

It was so much better when he was trying to get into office. But now that he's in, it's kind of like there's not that much at stake anymore, it seems like, I don't know. Just kind of bland to me, but... Never watched it. So my cool of the week is not horror-related, but going back to what we've talked about a few times. since we spoke with Christian Torp, horror and comedy being so close together. Yeah. Saw a T.J. Miller stand up on HBO. That's my cool.

I'll take it, man. I love stand-up. So yours is American gods, or did you have anything else? No, that was it. My one was American gods. All right. Were you guys ready to take that trip? Let's do it. Or wait, before the trip, though, we've got to do the headlines, don't we? There you go.

Let's do that instead. Okay, we fucked up the show's order last week. Let's not do that again. Try to keep it straight. It's only like the 50th time we've done this. Actually, the 56th time. There you go. Tobin Bell's returning, so I don't know how that's possible. Is it a prequel?

No. I'm reading it. It says, as the investigation proceeds, evident points to one man, John Kramer. But how can this be? Oh, man, I want to take a pass on this, but Brian, you're probably going to make us watch it. I mean, you never know. He could revitalize the series, but then again, I don't know.

Didn't he die like the third one or something like that? Okay, so in other words, it's going to have a Jason element now where there's something, you know, something like supernatural going on? It's got to be, right? Probably not, but I'd be okay with that. I'm not like super looking forward to it, but I'll watch it. Right. Yeah, I mean, there was a time when,

you know, Halloween time, Saw a movie was coming out, you know, you want to go to a theater and watch it, but the last couple was just kind of, man. Yeah. That's a good way to describe it. Yeah, hopefully they came up with something new to do with it. Let's hope. The Exorcist Season 2 gets a premiere date, September 29th. There you go.

I know you're happy. Yes, I am. That will be a Friday night, I believe. So, definitely looking forward to that. Benjwash the first season for that happens. Jurassic World 2 is officially titled Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Okay.

And this one is said to be, it's going to have more horror elements to it. It's going to be more scary. That's the route they're going on with with this one. That'd be cool. I like that. Yeah, if they pull it off. Release date.

Chris Pratt. June 22nd next year. Okay. Are you guys familiar with the director for it? He's made some pretty good stuff, man. His name's J.A. Bayone. He's actually from Barcelona, Spain. Okay.

Do you remember that movie The Impossible about Naomi Watts was in it, and Ewan McGregor and some other people, and it was after, they were in Asia on vacation? Okay. And they were trying to find each other after that flood. You know what? I might be wrong, but isn't Tom Holland, Spider-Man? Wasn't he one of the sons?

Might very well have been. I don't really remember the kids too much in it. I mainly just remember the two leads. It was a good movie. Yeah. Yeah, he was. You're right. Okay.

Yeah, I did catch that. That was a pretty good movie. Yeah, he did a monster calls. I haven't seen that yet. Have you guys seen it? No. Hmm. The orphanage.

Yeah. It looks like he's got some pretty good credits, man. So hopefully this one will be better than the first one, which I didn't like. I thought it was okay. I thought it was good, man. Yeah, most people did. I mean, it did really well at the box office. I just, I don't know, I thought it was kind of lame, but teach their own, right?

There you go. And our biggest news story we're going to talk about here is a Han Solo movie loses its directors. Phil Lord and Chris Miller and they are replaced by Ron Howard. Huh. Well, I can't be mad about that, you know?

Uh-huh. You got Ron Howard directing it? I'm down. And comments from Phil Lord and Chris Miller have said, even though it's cliche to say that they left due to creative differences, that's pretty

much what happened was creative differences. And I think it was the tone of the comedy that was going to be in the movie. Right. And because they are, they have done a lot of comedy comedic movies. So I don't know if this was the studio saying there was too much in it or what was going on. But they were in the middle of shooting the movie. So I don't know how is this going to affect the movie, really.

I don't know. But anytime. Anytime you have changes like that, it can be the kiss of death, you know? Yeah, because it's kind of hard to tell. Yeah, because it's kind of hard to really figure out where they are in the movie. Because I know when you got the Justice League with Zach Snyder leaving, the movie was finished. So I don't know if this is finished or they're in the middle of it or what's going on. I'm a little bit worried.

I mean, I like Ron Howard, but he's completely different directors. than the other two. Mm-hmm. Who would have ever, if they had told you 20 years ago that Ron Howard would be directing

a Star Wars movie, would you have ever believe that? No. Just seem like that one bit. I don't think he's going to put out anything that's not good. Like,

I don't, I, he's going to make it good before he puts it out. Yeah, and, and Disney's not going to let that fly if it's shitty. Yeah,

and it happened really quick. Uh, I think he came on like a day after. Wow. I mean, he's definitely talented. He's made some, he's made a lot of really good films. In my opinion, he's made a few so-so films, but he's never made a truly bad film. Yeah.

Yeah. I agree. We got a release date of Han Solo, May 25th, 2018. Okay. Well, we'll see if that changes to Christmas. Yeah, it may. And that is all we have for this week. All right.

And that means now it's time to take that little trip. We were excited about the road trip. Take that little trip down to Texas Frightmare. Right, Brian? Yep. Or at least the trailer park. So, Brian, what's our first new trailer this week, man? Okay, the first one we're going to talk about is Who's Watching Oliver, starring Russell, Jeffrey Banks, Sarah Malucco Lane?

Put your names again. and Margaret Roach, directed by Richie Moore. This movie looks fucking fantastic. It really does. This looks like what I've been dying for for about a year now. Yeah. Kind of like

eyes of my mother feel to it, maybe, but less obscure. Maybe with a little bit of comedy in it, possibly. Like dark comedy? Yeah, it looks like there probably is. It's going to be, freaking weird though, I think. Yeah, it looks amazing to me, dude.

Just the visuals that I saw, you know. And the way they close it out, they've got like, it's just like blood cutting noises. Oh, yeah, the sound effects. Yeah, I was like, oh, that's how you end a trailer right there. Don't have a release date on this yet, but I will keep everyone posted. Yeah, that's what I've been really excited about in a while. Same here, man. Yeah, this is one.

Go ahead. No, this is one trailer that really got my attention, dude. Yeah, I think right now it's hitting the festival circuit right now, so. Oh, okay. Cool. And our last trailer we're going to talk about is another Blumhouse movie. Happy Death Day. Ah, that looks good, too, man.

This one looks kind of mainstream. I'm really looking forward to it. starring Jessica Roth, Israel Broussard, and Rubin Modine, directed by Christopher Landon, who he's worked on movies like Disturbia, some of the paranormal activity movies, a scout guy to Zambia Park. He's been the writer in all those movies. Oh, that was a great movie, man. I like Disturbia, too. A lot of people gave it a hard time, but I thought it was good. Yeah, I liked it, too.

It was kind of like a reimagining of Alfred Hitchcock's rear window. Yeah. Do you remember seeing it? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So he's probably... Crazy-ass.

primarily a writer, huh? Yeah, I'm... I'm into this. You know, it's like a slasher movie with, you know, mixed with Groundhogs Day. Yeah. And it looks pretty interesting. I think right now Blumhouse is on a bit of a role, you know,

with them release and split and get out. So, yeah. Definitely into this. I like the concept of it. I like that they told you. concept of it and I think that it's going to be a like a big theatrical release. When's it come out? October 13th. Okay. Cool. And we're already seeing it looks like it looks like a solid, it looks like a solid horror movie man. Yeah. Yeah. What's not to like you know. Great story.

Great storyline. It looked like the acting was pretty believable. They were selling it. Yeah. You know, they were acting like, you know, kids that age really would act if this was going on. So I'm just curious how they're going to tie it all up in the end game, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And it looks like it's got a good mix of comedy in there, too. Yeah, definitely. That always helps.

Always helps, man. And it's also good because last couple years I kind of felt like October was missing out on, like, big, you know, horror releases for October. Oh, definitely. Yeah, definitely. So October 13th this year. And that is our last trailer. Okay, cool. So, Phillip, we got any listener feedback this week?

Can we go ahead and announce a special guest for that show now? I think it's pretty much wrapped up, Brian. Yeah, it sounds like it. So I think it would be okay. Okay, who do we have coming on, man? The Black Saint from Horror News Radio. Look out. Santos Ellen Jr.

Yes, sir. The Black Saint himself. Looks like he's going to be coming on and joining us. So I don't know how many of our listeners. have picked up horror news radio or HNR. I think on iTunes, you just type in horror news radio. But these guys are a class act. They've been together for a long time, and they put a really good show on.

Definitely check that out. Also check out. They do decades of horror. Those are pretty good. They got different podcasts for each decade. They got 90s, 80s, 70s, and they even got one for really really older movies, so those are really good. Let's see. Bo Burcho also shared a link for Wish Upon.

This is the first commercial I've seen for this. Looks like it will be good. Any thoughts? Yeah, I have some thoughts. Wish upon? Yeah, I'm interested in seeing it. I was actually hoping that we might cover that and also cover maybe like Wishmaster with it. But I think it's coming out like in a week.

or two, isn't it, Brian? Like when we already have something... I think it falls on the same release date as a war for the planet of the apes. Oh. So we're going to have a big decision to make, huh? Or have you already made that decision for us?

I mean, it's up to you guys. I mean... Right. I was interested in it because it does... It looks like a Wishmaster mixed with some Final Destination style deaths.

Okay. But I mean, I mean, if we watch Wishapon, I'm still watching War for the Planet Leaks. Yeah, me too, dude. Absolutely. I mean, we're going to see it for earliest. Why don't we, hey, can I make a suggestion? Let's do. Sure. Let's do both of them.

Why don't we put a post in the Horror Returns group? Do you know how to set up where they can go in and vote for which movie they want us to do that week? You know, I've been trying to figure that out and I'm having no luck. You know what? I'll bet if I get with our friends Ricky and Danny from Helming, I'll bet they know how to do it.

Oh, yeah. All right. Because there's got to be a way we could just set it up where we basically decide which of the movies do you guys want us to do that week and we'll go with that one. Sound good? Yeah. All right, cool. And we were thinking about Philip was talking about when we were driving back from the store picking up some necessaries for the fajita cook we're doing tonight. including some Zima folks. Yes, it's back.

Zima is back. Oh, wow. So we had to get a six-pack. I feel like a 90s douchebag already. But, yeah, Philip said it's high time we do another contest, man. Yeah, I think so. I don't know. Maybe the listeners that are here in this show can give us some ideas or tell us what they would like us to roll out.

And Gore returns group or send us an email. We can do that a list, top-ton list or something. What are you thinking, man? Maybe. I mean, I don't know. They'll figure out some kind of top 10 list and see if they can guess number one. It's a good idea. Anyway, that's probably an off-the-air discussion.

All right. So let's move on. So we were talking about Wishapon. And then, okay, our next item, Patrick Lear, in front of the show, says wishing a big happy birthday to the Horror Returns Media Mastermind, Brian Stitcher. Oh, thank you. Thank you. And that was what, about a week ago?

Yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah, I want to tell everybody from Facebook. Thank you. Got a lot of birthday wishes from Facebook. Appreciate it. Awesome. It's always good, man.

That's our Alaskan Barry White right there. Thanks to everybody who reaches out to us. We love the feedback. As always, you can reach us at our Facebook or pod bean page. Or, you know, we don't get a whole lot of emails. We get a lot of feedback on our Facebook page, but, man, just email us directly at the horror returns at gmail.com. You'll definitely get your feedback in the show. We love to hear from you, and who knows, you might want a t-shirt or something.

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This is Sex Head, and you're listening to The Horror Returns. So if you guys are ready, without any further ado, let's move on to the featured attractions. And this week we check out the new Transformers film The Last Night, as well as 1986's Maximum Overdrive. Start out with trivia, as always, for Maximum Overdrive. director and writer. Little guy y'all may have heard of. Stephen King. Anybody know that name? I think so. He's wrote a couple things, right?

Yeah. One or two short stories, I think. Has he really directed anything else? I think that was it, dude. Okay. I think that was it, man. But, yeah, if listeners, if you don't know what else he's known for, you're probably listening to the wrong podcast. Yeah. So while shooting the scene, I love this story here.

while shooting the scene where the steamroller rampages across the baseball diamond that was great Stephen King requested that the effects department place a bag of fake blood near the dummy of a young player who would be run over by it the desired effect would be that a smear of blood would appear on the steam would appear on the steamroller and be re-smeared on the grass over and over like a printing press while filming the scene however the bag of blood exploded too soon and sprayed everywhere,

making it appear as if the boys hit it exploded. That's what it looked like. King was thrilled with the results, but censors demanded that that shot be cut. Now let me ask you guys a question. Have you guys ever heard who Stephen King originally wanted to cast in the lead role, the one that Emilio Estevez got? No.

Any ideas? Only because I'm looking at it. your paper. Tell us who it is, Philip. The boss, Bruce Springsteing. That would have been a whole different movie. I'd totally watch that. It's not like we're really watching this movie for the acting, okay?

I don't know. Well, we'll get into it. The Dixie Boy Truck Stop was a set constructed 10 miles outside of Wilmington, North Carolina. It was convincing enough that several truckers during filming tried to stop in and and gas up. And eventually the producers had to put announcement in local papers saying the Dixie Boy was only a movie set. Stephen, this is some great trivia for this movie, man. This next one's great, too.

Stephen King being a former cocaine addict, later admitted that he was, quote, coked out of my mind the entire time he was making the picture. It all makes so much sense. And often did not know what he was doing. he did remark that he would like to try directing again someday but this time sober that's probably a good idea all right all right who's getting started here max over drive i'll go first um i love this movie i've loved this movie since i was a kid i mean there's some cheesy parts to it but it's like cheesy good and the movie tells you right from the get-go what it's going to be

when you got an ATM machine calling, of all people, Stephen King doing a cameo, calls him an asshole. I love that. And the deaths are so over the top in this movie. You kind of just go with it. One I always questioned was the scene when you see the dead dog with the toy car in his mouth. Right. I always want to know how did that happen? It was a toy car.

You know what? That's one of those questions that you just leave your brain at the door and enjoy the movie, man. It'll never be answered because there is no logical answer for that. Yeah, there's a lot of, you know, apparently somebody died from headphones. Right. There's all kinds of crazy stuff in this movie. And, of course, you got the iconic Green Goblin car. Oh, yes.

And I just remember so many characters, Emilio Estabye. I forgot the actor's name that plays the owner of the truck stop. Yeah, I've seen him in a lot of stuff. The one that kept calling everybody Bubba. Yeah. Pat Hingle, is that him? Is that his name? Pat is his name.

Oh, yeah, yeah, Pat Hingle. Yeah, he goes way back, dude. He's been in a lot of stuff. Was he Commissioner Gordon in the first Batman movie? Oh, whoa. Yes, he was. The land before time. And then you got Lisa Simpson in this movie.

What was her name? She was great, man. She made me want to knock her in a goddamn head. Her it is? You're right. Every time she opened her fucking mouth, I wanted to slap her in the face. You know what? They run right into my stupid people segment, both of them.

All right, let's hold off on that segment. Hey, do you mind, Brian, do you mind if Philip steals a little bit of, your Fender this week, because he said he wants to do a stupid people section. Oh, by all means, go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, that was just my stupid people right there, those two idiots, the married couple. Because, like, he's running away from this fucking semi-truck in the very beginning, and he can't outrun the semi, really?

And he, like, looks down at his speedometer and he's going, like, 85. I'm like, you're the jackass in the left lane that can't get your ass in gear and drive. That's your fucking problem. I mean, to be fair, there is a lot of stupid people in this movie. Oh, yeah, there is. You got the Bible salesman? Oh, stupid person. Yeah.

Stupid person. He got what was coming to him. These are like protagonists that are just dumb as shit. Right. And I know, giant monster trucks are taking over the world. Let's go to a truck stop. That sounds like a good fucking idea. Why would you do that?

Okay, let me ask you guys a question. Maybe you guys caught something that I missed. But speaking of Kurt and Connie, the stupid couple, why in the fuck were they able to continue to control and drive their car? I wanted to know the same thing. Yes, exactly. There's a lot of rules that didn't make any sense in this movie. Thus the cocaine, I suppose.

I don't know. Did you have a theory about that one, Brian? No, I mean, I don't. always wondered, you know, there, there appears to be certain appliances throughout the, throughout the truck stop that also is not affected. Right. I mean, it was like a hair dryer around some lady's neck at one point. Yeah.

That would go evil, but, like. Because in the truck stop itself, you got the, of course, you got the electric knife that goes crazy. Yeah. Right. Which I don't understand how it cuts her since she's holding. the electric knife. Yeah.

But, yeah, there's rules in this, in this movie that aren't explained as far as, what was it, a comet that passed over the earth? Yeah, they were in the trail of the comet for like a week or nine days or something like that.

And then the gun on that machine, right, on the, on the little, like, an army deal that came in with the gun. How was it shooting the gun? Well, if it can control the guns, you know what? Then on top of that, how did these idiots get a rocket launcher? Okay, true.

Why wasn't it controlling all those weapons, right? Yeah, because it was controlling the gas pump when Zeke's father was pointing the nozzle to his eyes to see why it was plugged. They blinded it. But then they had to go pump all the gas. Yeah. Wow, yeah, there's a whole lot of plot holes in it. All right, I'll grant you guys this. There's one or two pot holes in this movie, okay?

I will admit. One or two or 15, whatever. But at the end of the day, did you guys not have a fucking rollicking great time watching this movie? Was this not a fucking fun roller coaster ride of a movie from start to finish? I always laugh at the scene at the baseball field with the coach and the soda machine. It was like America's Funniest home videos hitting him in the nuts. And the way the soda machine set up, it already looks dangerous without it even coming to life. And it's just taking out kids left and right in the background.

Of course, you know, you know, you got Deeks the only one that's smart enough to at least cover his face with something. Yeah. Right. And then leading into the scene you brought up the steamroller, which I don't, I don't understand how this kid flips over the bike. I don't either. I thought... I thought it was too, but then the other kid was on a bike, and I was like, well, he's not. You know, okay, you know what?

For me, that actually would make sense, that the bike flipped him over, because then you cut to the scene with him on the ground, and his legs are tangled in the bike. In the bike. But then why didn't the other bike knock the other kid over, man? Yeah. Spending the whole fucking movie, riding around the whole neighborhood on his bike. And then if it can control a pest. metal powered gear, then that's a slippery slope, because then it can just control things like, you know, knives and shit.

They're like, yeah, a literal knife, right? Like, you just could just, uh, jump up into the air and run after you, huh? Oh, that was Magneto. I mean, you just got a... The common has Magneto on it. Okay. All right. I don't know, man.

There's got to be, there's got to be a way to explain why he was able to ride his bike and and why Connie and Clark were able to drive their car, you know? Cocaine. Yeah. Or Connie and Kurt. Sorry. Yeah. Cocaine.

Connie and Kurt Rohn. Cohn. What did you guys think of Emilio Estabez, Bill? Dude, I loved him, man. He was doing a perfect channeling of Otto from Repo Man. Okay. Yeah, he was the young, angry punk. And yeah, dude, I thought he was great in the role. He actually was nominated for a very prestigious award that year for that performance. I looked it up, dude. It's called the Razzies. Oh. That doesn't surprise me.

Come on, dude. He was perfect in the role, man. He was very good. I kind of liked Emilio Estabez. He's the only one that was, like, really taking it seriously, and everybody else was just fucking retarded. No, I thought it was a great performance. Like I said.

And the chick, she was pretty good, too. I liked her. Yeah, the one who told him, you sure make love like a hero. What a line. What did you guys think about the soundtrack? Loved it. Oh yeah.

Fucking awesome, dude. That was probably the best part of the whole movie, quite frankly. Can't go wrong with ACDC, man. That's what I was like. At the very first, like, two seconds of the movie, and they've got, you know, music performed by ACDC, and there's that guy that's got the close-up on the camera at, like, Monster trucks and ACDC, I'm going to like this movie.

I had actually never seen it. They also got some... You're shutting me. No, it's got a little bit of advertisement in the beginning. Somebody's got an ACDC van. Yeah, I was like... Ah, I saw that. I was like, was that in the tour bus?

Were they in? Could very well be. Stephen King was in there doing Coke with him, huh? Mm-hmm. Oh, there must have been a lot of... There was a lot of cocaine on this set. Well, it was 80s. You know what?

I had totally forgotten Stephen King directed it because I've seen this movie at least a dozen times but until we saw it this time and I was watching the credits I had really completely forgotten he actually directed it. Yeah. My wife said she was scared of like Big Rigs for a long time after this movie when she first saw it. I mean it was, it's a fun movie.

But Brian, you were going to say something? Yeah. You guys catch the car. cameo from Gus from Breaking Bad? No. He gets killed in the arcade. That was him? Yeah.

Is that the dude that kept putting the cigarettes in his pocket and all the old things that was coming out? That was Gus? That was the actor, Gene Carlo Esposito. Yep, that was him. No shit. I had no idea, dude.

Are you sure? Yep. He looks a lot darker in this movie. Wow. I would have never thought, oh my gosh. Wow, look at that. That is amazing, dude. Brian, that's the best trivia.

We've heard, look, we've had fantastic trivia for this movie, but that's, that, that takes the cake. That's the best of the whole, well, that and the Stephen King being coked out of his head the whole time he was directing. I think that's a pretty good piece of trivia, because it explains a whole lot. Yes, it does. Wow, man, that is amazing. Also, he's like, yeah, ACDC's doing the soundtrack to this movie. Woo! Did you guys kind of get a racist vibe from that scene?

Okay, so it's a black dude, and he's in there playing video games, and the minute the cigarettes start popping out in the coins, he's like pocketing everything? What would you do? Yeah. I guess that's true. Black, white, purple, or yellow? I guess you're going to do the same fucking thing, huh?

Take what they're going to give you. Oh, this movie is a classic, though. Even the one, the sound of when a kill is about to happen, that's always been iconic to me when it comes to this movie. Yeah. You know who else irritated me, though? The waitress. When she kept, I mean, the first time she did it. Yeah.

Oh, yes, of course. The first time she did it, she was super drunk, so it kind of made sense. But then the next time she did it, and when she got shot, I was like, what are you doing? that's that's that's that's what you deserve to get you run out there and start screaming at these demon trucks yeah you get shot yeah it was kind of it was kind of interesting how to kill time they were all just sitting in there drinking all the beer all the beer and the and the liquor and stuff that was in there for sale oh when that dumb ass married couple was tickling each other what yeah forgot that part what was that I don't know she was like cracking up they were

sitting at a table and I guess he was tickling her under the table well, I don't know what he was doing, but she was... Oh, Kurt and Connie? Right. Oh, my God. Like, I like her as an actor and probably as a person, but I hated her in this movie so much. Hey, she sold it, man. Yeah.

Okay. Simpson. Yeah, man, this is a classic. I'm telling you right now, I probably saw this movie. I don't think I saw it in the theater, but I must have seen it, like, on HBO or something. Yeah. Maybe, like, in 87 or 80s. And like I said, I've seen this thing over a dozen times.

Do you have to kind of leave logic at the door? Oh, yeah. Of course. Of course. I mean, it makes no fucking sense. And like you guys were saying, the rules don't apply. And like at the end of it, if they're going to this marina where they can get into a sailboat because it's not motorized, and they're able to take the sailboat over to an island where no machines are allowed.

Why aren't all those fucking motorboats starting to start up and ram into the goddamn sailboat Is sailing away? That's what I thought was going to happen actually You know? And then it didn't. But yeah, it's a lot of holes here for sure. It's one of the few movies that is like

Kind of so bad that it's good. You know? Like, there were so many times I was watching this And I'm like, what in the hell is That doesn't make any sense, you know? and like some of the acting was really just bad yeah but I think by design yeah in some cases

it wasn't like a trauma movie but it was definitely I think King was kind of going for that B movie vibe I don't know that he remembers making this movie I don't think he knew what he was going for but uh it all makes sense now and right it really is it's so bad that it came kind of a cult classic

And I really enjoyed myself. I did too, man. I love it. I'll watch this movie anytime, dude. Like, we just watched it this week. I wouldn't mind when we're done recording going in and watching it again. I'm not even kidding, man. This is one you can just see over and over again.

I totally would. Especially if we're drunk and watching it because then we're just going to make fun of it the whole time. And me as a movie collector, this doesn't even have a Blu-ray release and it needs one. So anybody from Scream Factory or somebody listening? Oh my gosh. Are you serious? Are you serious? Stephen King is directed?

Come on. Wow. Are you sure, dude? There's no, there's no Blu-ray? I'm sure maybe like overseas Blu-ray where you have to get a different region Blu-ray player, but, you know, I'm not trying to do all that. But I think the DVD is actually kind of hard to find, too. I can't believe it, man.

That's odd, because this just seems like such a cool classic, man. And I would love some extra features. Maybe someone's got some camera footage of Stephen King coked out. That would be on, like, the special features. Like a behind the scenes? Yeah. That'd be great on this movie. Anything's possible, huh?

Come to find out he was directing a totally different movie than what was going on. Right. Yeah. Well, I would say... Maximum overjoy. drive. I would say, David Gregory, if you're listening, this might be a good release for Severin films. I'd say Michael Felscher, if you're listening, this might be a good release for your distribution group. You know, in any of these distribution groups that are willing to take some

chances on some, you know, some lesser-known cult-type horror movies, get in there. We need a fucking Blu-ray of this for sure. I think this is that lesser-known. Shit, ACDC ought to release Oh, hell yeah, dude. Yeah, I mean, you had, basically on this movie, you had me at ACDC. When the soundtrack started, I was like, fuck yeah, because I had kind of forgotten. Yeah. I probably hadn't seen it in 10 years, and I had kind of forgotten that literally the entire soundtrack was like ACDC's greatest hits. I bet you that's how Stephen King came up with this idea.

He listened to Who Made Who and went. Right? Oh, yeah. Or was Who Made Who Made Who? Was that song made for this movie? I doubt it. You don't think so? I don't think so.

Okay, well... Maybe. Interesting question. I mean, Zick, I could have sworn that they came out with like a greatest hits album right when this movie came out. And the one new song, you know how every once in a while, and artists will do one new song on a new greatest hits album? I could have sworn that was the new song. Maybe. I don't know.

This is the part of the show where we reach out to our listeners. There you go. To educate us. Set us straight. The way Lars set us straight that there were no Nazis. in World War I. They didn't make it specific that it was World War I although it obviously was not on thinking

about it. Hey, who made who, Philip? Whatever, they're Germans. Aye, aye, aye. No offense, Germany. Yeah, well, we don't care about political correctness on this show because we don't talk politics. You're not Nazis anymore, but back then

you were bad guys, sorry. They know all about it. And guess what? We have picked up some new listeners around the world. We have a new listener from Argentina. Shout her. Nice. Look at it. And as Philip, just mentioned Germany.

I'll let you know we have a new list here in Germany. So. Yeah. Shout out to you, man. My non-Nazi brother. I'm pretty sure I have some German in me. I'm a mutt. All right, man.

Are we ready for scores for this one? I'm ready for scores. I think so. What about you guys? Let's do it. Who went first? Who made who? I believe I did.

We made you. You know what? You know what? Off of you saying that right there. I'm going to give this a nine. this is very this is a movie that I can rewatch over

and over I will continue to revisit this movie this movie is funny cheesy just 80's goodness and I love it

however as I'll point out it's no witchboard not much is no it's a million times better. Speaking of Kevin, he sent in his ratings for the movies we're reviewing here

and I'll give him as we're doing the movies. He gave this one a 10 out of 10. His rating for this one was hella good. You must have seen my message feed. I did. Oh my God. If anybody in the world

likes 80s fucking horror movies. That's a board kid. Wait, wait until I give you his rating for our next movie. Okay, that's cool. That's cool. I can't wait. I've already got an idea. I've already been messaging with him, so. All right, so on this one, I'm going to give it, like, every part of me wants to give it like a five, but it was so much fun, man.

I got to give it a seven. Seven's good, man. Because you kind of have to look at it as a comedy, you know? I mean, it's really bad, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, funny and it's it was fun to watch you know well i mean everybody busted my balls for giving guardians two a seven seven's a good fucking score man oh yeah seven means you had a hell of a fun time watching yeah seven's good but you realize that it was nowhere near perfectly developed or created or written or active or anything right this was about as far from that is where they

so i think i think seven is is spot on and i think uh i think brian you gave it a nine yes sir. All right. So I'm going to meet you boys right in the middle. I'll give it a solid eight. There you go. Nice. Eight on ten.

That's very, very fun fucking movie. We all kind of agreed on it. You know what? I would go, as a matter of fact, when we're done recording, I think we might just go watch it. This would have been, this would have been perfect for, if we was to do a commentary on this one. Exactly. Yeah, like if we do, we talked about doing a YouTube channel where we have like a mystery science theater kind of thing. Okay.

well, this may be the one. That would be great. Yeah, we need to figure out the logistics on how to do all that. Definitely. Well, that's where our listeners come into play. If anybody has any ideas, they're old Mattis. We're looking to get into the YouTube world. Help us out.

I like it. I like it a lot. There you go. All right, so we're moving on to our next movie. I think we all agree that, run, don't walk to go see Maximum Overdrive folks if you haven't seen it before. Yeah. Or even if you haven't seen it in a while, which you probably haven't.

Yep. Check it out. It's funny. So now we're moving on to this week's featured attraction, which is the brand new Transformers, The Last Night. And as always, we'll start out with trivia. Director was Michael Bay, also known for Bad Boys, which is, in my opinion, his best film. What do you guys think?

Bad Boys? Yeah, it's always... Yeah, it's up there with the rock for me. I actually really love Bad Boys 2. Bad Boys 2 was okay. The scene in the morgue was kind of silly. Yeah. Where he was getting numb and everything.

Well, a whole lot of it was silly. Yeah, that's true. You know, Will Smith and Martin Lawrence, man. It's got to be silly, right? I'll watch them do anything. Yeah, fair enough. I mean, but he did... And I put the rock on here too, Brian,

and I mentioned that was the other thing he's known for, which is awesome. Yeah. One of the few Nicholas Cage movies where he was actually a pretty good actor in it Instead of just going Nicholas Cage crazy Yeah man he's got it must have been tax problems He's got something that are like easy The most hit or miss person I've ever seen in my life

That's a good way to put it But speaking of The Rock And our good friend Mark Wahlberg who's in this one He directed pain and gain. Have you guys seen that one? Yeah I enjoyed that one I liked it I had a good time. I didn't like it that much, man.

No, I thought it was fun. No, I just went in expecting a lot more, I guess. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I think my expectations were too high on that one. I didn't expect much out of that one. And I was kind of pleasantly surprised. Yeah, I was, I really enjoyed the Rock's performance in it because it was a more comedic. Mm-hmm.

And he does comedy pretty good for me. And, I mean, I don't want to see him do like a stand-up actor or nothing, but. Yeah, no, that would be bad. Well, now it's time for me for listeners of the show who've listened to a few of them to understand that this is the point of the show where Lance starts to become very, very nervous. Because we have Riders by Committee again. Shades of the Mummy, boys. Shades of the Mummy. Here we go. Writers, Art Markham, Matt Holloway, Ken Nolan.

Akiva Goldsman, with input by Michael Bay. This is a fucking recipe for disaster, guys. With input by Michael Bay. So basically he said, if you don't write what I want you to write, you're the fuck out of here. That's what's happening. Oh, boy. All right. Well, let's strap in here, guys.

This could be a bumpy ride. Michael Bay said that this will be the last Transformers film that he will direct for the moment. For the moment. He is open to do more films in the future if he gets a good story. Well, don't do writing by committee, motherfucker. Get one good writer to write the goddamn story, and you might get it. That's always a kiss of death. All right, part of the film was shot at Stonehenge.

Michael Bay requested, now, why would you do this? He requested to shoot an explosion on location at Stonehenge. Are you fucking serious? Yeah, sure, why not? Come on, dude, but was denied. Wow, can you imagine that? Fucking surprise. Well, doesn't hurt to ask, right?

So he had a set of Stonehenge constructed to shoot the explosion. You know what? Was it a tiny Stonehenge? It was a day. All I know is a Stonehenge monument was in danger of being crushed by a dwarf. All right, Brian. What movie was that from, man? Oh, my God.

Come on, dude. Put me on the spot. Can I give you it? give you another clue. Okay. But this one goes to 11. 11 is louder than 10. Right.

But why don't you just make the 10 louder? And he looks at him again. He's like, but this one goes to 11. Oh, my gosh. If I get this wrong, this is Spinal Tap? Yes, sir. Okay. Okay.

There's another cult classic. All right, man. We've got to find a way to review that for the show. We've got to find a horror element. or something so we can get away with it. He's got to be in there too. All right. While shooting in England,

Mark Wahlberg spent some time at St. Aden's Church incognito and made quite a few donations. No one knew anything until later on. Reverend Father Deas McGiven said it's great that we had him in for the

service and we'd certainly appreciate his generosity toward the church. so Brian you went first on the last one Philip you I think you've seen this most recently of all of us right yeah so you should go first man yeah okay you know I I was actually really pleasantly surprised by this one because I looked it up and I was going to go see it

and the Rotten Tomatoes thing on it said like 15% at the time and I was like man I might just skip this one. Plus, Lance told me it was like three hours long. I mean, it may not quite be that long, but it's pretty close. There you goes. Two hours and 29 minutes. But I kind of liked it, man. It was a little bit long. They definitely could have cut some stuff out of it, but it was probably the best Transformers movie since the first two, I think. I really enjoyed Mark Wahlberg. There were really no glaring plot holes that just jumped out at me.

It was a fun movie. It's everything you want from a summer blockbuster. Yeah, I agree with you. It was a little, they could have probably shaved maybe like at least a half hour off of this movie. Yeah. They had a lot of stuff going on. I was also surprised that I enjoyed it. Yeah?

I went in. I was actually surprised by Mark Wahlberg because I hated his character in the last one because I don't I didn't never buy him as a scientist inventor. Yeah. But he did great in this one, huh? Yeah, because I think that got away from him trying to be all, you know, sciencey and basically more of an action star. Yeah, which is what he is. And I really like, probably somebody's going to get on me for this. but I really like Anthony Hopkins in this.

I felt like he just had fun with this movie. Anthony Hopkins is amazing and just about anything that he does. And you know what? Before this movie started and I really wasn't looking forward to seeing and I wasn't expecting much, I kept going, how in the hell did they even get Anthony Hopkins to do this movie? I think he's just at a point in his career where he's going to do Transformer movies. He's going to do, you know, Thor. Why not?

You know? Yeah. and I do have a couple problems. Maybe it's more so because I really enjoy Transformers growing up as a kid and they kind of changed some things around. Yeah. And the comedic character for this one was a guy that I've grown to love his show, Jared Carmichael. He was the black guy. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I really like his comment. What show is he on? The Carmichael show. I've never seen. Never even heard of it. It's a comedy central or something? No, it's a, you probably won't watch it, Lance. It's like a network show. But he does a lot of, I like his stand-up. He was in the neighbor movies. Oh, okay. With Seth Rogan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was, he felt completely flat for me. He was not funny at all. He was whiny, bitchy.

just, yeah, I just, like, I kind of wanted what happened to T.J. Miller and the last one happened to him, so he could just be gone from the movie. But other than that, I really had a lot of fun. There are times when I got, I kind of got tired of Optimus Prime because every time he spoke, was it like a speech? But dude, he didn't even show up until the third, well, no spoilers yet, I guess, right? I mean, he wasn't in it that much. It just, I don't know. How can it doesn't bother you that much, dude? Because it's like the last couple movies. Every time he talks is a speech and this dramatic music plays.

I'm like, okay, nothing's happening. So just let's save the speech for later. Yeah. Well, they have to put him down as the biggest, baddest transformer of all time, you know? And they definitely solidify that in this one, you know? I think. But, um, well, don't say too much. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I'll wait until we get to spoilers. But yeah, I was pleasantly surprised. with this one. Yeah. And, you know, they kind of, the previews made it out to be that little Hispanic girl, was going to be like a big main character in this movie.

And then she really wasn't in it that much. She was in it quite a bit early, though. Yeah, quite a bit early. But I'm not entirely sure. She had a good role. I mean, she had a lot of things that she added to the story. She was okay. I'm not entirely sure why she was in it, though.

Why that whole half of a storyline even was there? Because we'll kind of get into it, because I kind of felt like she was two different characters. this movie. Yeah, definitely. I didn't get that. I don't want to hear why you guys think that. I mean, I don't know.

I don't know. She just wasn't in and enough for anything like that. They might be setting her up to be the star of the next one. Maybe. That makes sense. Well, I mean, we have a few things to talk about in spoilers. Like, what the hell was that post-credit scene all about, you know? That was weird.

Yeah. Yeah. I'll get into a little bit of what I know. growing up watching the cartoon, especially the 80s movie. Yeah, definitely. Because I'll be interested to hear that. Yeah. To me, it made no sense.

And there's something towards the end that I really want to talk about. Okay. All right. Well, listen, let me, let me, let me say my, you know, let me say my little spoiler-free piece here. Oh, yeah. I forgot. You know, we can move, we can move on to scores and then get into a lot of details. But we kind of had discussion as opposed to round table this time.

I'll tell you what. I was, oh, man, I hate to say this, Brian. I'm going to sound like a complete asshole to you right now. But I was really looking forward to pacing and posting all over Facebook and all over the horror returns group. Fuck you, Brian, for making us watch this movie. I know, right? For making us watch this movie. Dude, I ate my words, man.

I had a fucking blast watching this. This was a fun, fun movie. Yeah. The only problem that I can think of, I know you guys already mentioned Hopkins, he stole the fucking show. Oh, yeah. He was amazing. He was a badass in this movie.

So much better than I. I thought he was going to phone it in. I don't think Anthony Hopkins knows how to phone it in. He walked in with a dick the size of an elephant. You know what? Absolutely, dude. He owned it, man. He was fantastic.

And I thought Walberg was very good. Actually. And I liked the young actress. I thought she was a little spitfire, man. I enjoyed watching her. I really did. I loved at the beginning when they showed the little comical robots and stuff like that and the little dragons. I loved that part.

Oh, yeah. It was just so much fun, man. It was just, you know, brainless. Brainless fun. I enjoyed the hell out of this movie. And I did not think I was going to it all. And like when I was setting up the trivia and I, like I was telling you, listing all those writers and I thought this is going to be a piece of shit for sure. For me to go into this movie

with a mindset that I had going in and to walk out feeling as good as I felt when it was over with is nothing short of a miracle. I loved it. It was fun from beginning to end. The only complaint I've got is it was about 30 minutes too long. Yeah. They could have cut a few things out. They could have got a lot of stuff out. But the special effects were really good. I know you can see the CGI in a few. I'm almost getting tired of this CGI bullshit. You know, know why? Every fucking person now bitches about, that's, CGI is becoming

the big thing for everybody to bitch at. Yeah. Oh, there was CGI. Oh, it looked fake. Oh, it looked like a cartoon. I'm getting tired of hearing it. It was fun watching it. It was serviceable. The bad CGI was serviceable. And the good CGI was really good. Yeah, there was only one that I noticed. I noticed

one one scene that was just not great CGI. Well, when the one robot was walking across the grass at Anthony, well, at that castle, without giving too much away. That looked real, man. It looked like he was actually walking right on the grass. I thought that was very commendable.

No, it was really towards the end of the movie. It was one of the... Right, it got out of control. It was just, they had a lot of shit going on, I think, you know? And there's a lot of scenes like that. We'll get more into it. But there's a couple of scenes where they had just so much stuff going on that I kind of lost interest.

But overall... 30 minutes too long. Yeah. Overall, I was pleasantly surprised. Absolutely. Same here. Are you guys ready for scores? Yeah. Yep.

All right. Oh, I'll go first. You know what? I'm going to give it a 7, man. It was way better than the mummy. That was a tough hurdle to have done. Yeah. I think I'm right there with you.

I'm also give it a 7. Oh, wow. This is kind of creepy then. Look at that. Back here. What? I just I just reached around my back

and pulled a hair that was like three inches long. I hope it's on a back to it. Fucking Sasquatch over here. Oh shit.

All right. No, this is actually kind of bizarre because this is, I think, the first ever horror returns. They say the number

for perfection is 777, right? Like the godlike number or so either. I know 666 is the mark of the people. Satan? Well, apparently, yes.

Brian, you tell us, man, you study a lot of that spiritual stuff, man. See, if we ever get into a horror movie situation, we got to have Brian with us. What's the significance of 7-77? I've got to do

some fact-checking on that. I think it's supposed to be like the perfect number, but I give this movie a 7. And yes, you fucking haters listening to me right now, they're fucking kicking my ass about Guardians 2.

Yes, I gave this the same exact score as Guardians 2, because I had just as much fun in this movie. So if you don't like this movie, that's your problem. I enjoyed it. I had fun. I kind of wish it had been a little bit shorter. Obviously, there were a few things that could have changed,

but at the end of the day, I had a good time. Side note, if you have the choice to choose between the two of them, pay guardians. Ader's coming out already, huh? I'm just saying, it's not as good as that. But it was fun. Yeah, it's all good. Seven. At the end of the day, 777 is a magical number that you should watch out for in your life on a daily basis.

Okay, so it sounds like we're recommending that everyone see Transformers the last night. Watch out for it. It's magical. All right. Spoiler time? Yeah. Yep. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Okay. Okay. I'm going to go with something that I just kind of was confused with because I completely changed it from what I can remember if anybody out there, if I'm wrong, can, you know, send us anything to correct me. Oh, I'm sure they will.

Yeah. When I grew up, Unicron was its own thing. But in this movie, Unicron is Earth? Mm-hmm. Did I get that right? Kevin pointed that out to me, too, through Messenger. Yeah. I didn't like that.

A whole lot of it. I did not like that at all. Okay. Because, um... So what's, what's wrong with the, the writers of this taking a little creative freedom and just, you know, giving a good reason for Optimus Prime to come back and for the things to happen the way they did? I mean, you know, I think.

No, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Brian. I was just going to say, you know, me, you know, learning how to review these movies and kind of look at them objectively, you know, I'm trying to tell myself, you know, not to get mad if they changed things from my childhood because, you know, it's a different take on it. Right. So, but it was just a little confusing how this whole time, Earth has not really been Earth. It's been this giant, because Unicron is basically a giant transformer that transforms into a planet. Well, I think that's what's about to happen. Which I knew, I knew they was going to change it up because in the previous movie, Megatron turns into Galvatron. And it was because of Unicron.

But then they changed that whole, they flipped that whole story around. So that was my one kind of little small little thing. And the thing about the little girl in the beginning, where I felt like she was two different characters, she was a little badass when you first get introduced to her. Yeah. And then when you get reintroduced to her, she was the character that was always in the wrong place at the wrong time,

tagging along when she shouldn't have and didn't really do anything. No, I disagree. I disagree. I think she was still showing her gumption when she was doing that. That's why she jumped in and tagged along on the mission, because she does have, she is a little spitfire, man. I don't think her character changed to me anyway. I'm just not sure what place she played in the story, you know what I mean?

Because she didn't really do anything. Mm-hmm. Like the whole movie. Well, I mean, she started out, she's the one who connected the, what do they call it, like the dead zone or whatever, that they weren't allowed to go into on pain of death when the kids showed up in? She connected that world to Marky Mark's world. See, they could have done that with the other kids that were in there. They could have done it with anybody.

But, I mean, I'm just saying I didn't have a problem with it. You know what I mean? It was just, you know, something extra in the movie when it was already two and a half hours long, you know? Great point, dude. Great point. Yep, they definitely could have streamlined that for sure. But then, okay, so were there any other transformers that weren't like they were, you know, originally? I was confused by Hot Rod and his French accent.

I know, right? Yeah. It was, and then they, and then they tell you that he didn't, he didn't need to have it. He just likes to have it. He just likes to have it, yeah. I was a little confused of what was going on. But I will say, um, the lead actress was hot as shit. Yeah.

And you know what I love? When Mark Wahlberg called her out for her stripper dress. Oh, I loved it. Yes. Awesome line, man. And you know what? Yeah, that's right. It had me saying, Megan who?

Right. Well, she looked a lot like Megan Fox, but like a British version, so she was like hotter and classy. Yes, yes. I really enjoyed the medieval aspect of this movie. I did too. I didn't think I was cool as shit. That was one of my bad CGIs, though. Is it towards the end, they have one of the old knights?

Okay. I don't know. When they showed him, I can't even remember what they showed him doing, but I was like, man, compared to everything else in this movie, that didn't look great. Is this, is this the scene when, when he first wakes up? Yeah,

I think so. Okay, because I think, I think I know what you're talking about. The CG was a little wonky. And then, that whole scene kind of wasn't really thought out because it, like,

okay, so Mark Rolberg has had this fucking thing on his arm floating around his body, the whole fucking movie, right? Right. And then he gets to the end, and it turns out to be this big badass sword.

So, and he stops the transformer from, They all basically kneel down and worship them because he got the sword. And then the next scene, the sword's gone and it doesn't show back up again in the whole movie. Yeah, where'd the sword go? I was like, I thought that was a really cool thing that happened, you know? I love that. I love that part.

And then they didn't show it again. And in the end, in the end game of this, it might be for nothing because from what I'm hearing is he's not returning for another movie. Really? Yeah, so if that's true that this was all kind of for nothing, that he is the, he is the next night in this, in this group of nights. I heard that too, that he's, he opted out of doing a third, a third transfer. Yeah. Because he had in his contract that he could either do the third one or opt out? I don't blame.

Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it's good money, but I mean, he can do a lot better movies. I really like Mark Wahlberg. Yeah, he's got daddy's, daddy's home too coming out. Oh, yeah. Fuck, Mark Wahlberg is the same height I am? Yeah. Are you fucking kidding me?

He's a, he's a stocky motherfucker. God damn. Just like Tom Cruise, man. There you go. He's a bad man. Mark Warbrook whooped Tom Cruise's ass. Holy shit. I had no idea.

And another thing I'm probably going to get some hate on is they're planning a bumblebee spinoff movie that is going to be a prequel. Okay. After seeing a scene in this movie, I am all down for it. Yeah, it might not be too bad. You got Bumblebee killing Nazis? Yeah, the World War II one? That was cool.

Yeah, and then Mark Wahlberg says, but he's so nice. And then Anthony Hopkins is, that is a word that would never describe him. Yes, I love that, too. That really set something up there. So if, go ahead. No, no, no, you finish, man. I'm sorry. I was just going to say, if that's the route they're going, then I'm all for Bumbleb.

Because at first I was kind of like, you guys need to stop. Yeah, but if you got this and he's in like, that error and he's like helping soldiers out, I'm all for it. And it's the dark side to bumblebee where he's just going to be kicking ass and taking names. He's going to be stinking like a bee. Let me ask you guys, let me ask you guys a question.

How fucking awesome would it have been if they had been able to talk Jeff Bridges into being in this movie in some capacity? And do you know why? No. You would have had a fucking monster big Lubowski meetup. think about who else was in this movie you had john goodman oh that's true you had bishimi yeah he was in it that was funny the laski himself was the only one missing i thought the comedy in this wasn't like in the mummy i thought the comedy was really forced terrible like maybe maybe they

put it in at the last second and we're like okay look all these big movies coming out have a whole lot of comedic relief we need to put a bunch of comedy in and it wasn't really funny and in this It was pretty legitimately funny. Getting off the rails, as we usually do with that, with the mummy, I heard Tom Cruise kind of took over the movie. Oh, boy. There's a lot of reports coming out that he just, I guess he had enough pull to where he would say something. And it would, his word was more than, his word would go over more than the directors. Hmm.

Oh, boy. Well, guess what, Tom? Give it up, baby. Yeah. focus on what you do, which is acting, and let the professionals do the professional work. I hope they drop him off at Dark, the Dark Universal Series. You know what? They very well may. It's making a lot of money overseas.

Yes, that's what I keep hearing. The overseas money. Because they don't understand English. Yeah, it's crazy. If you look at the box office, it is like, it's made like almost 300 million overseas compared to like maybe 40, a little over 40. million here. Well, and the other thing, Brian, you listen to

the, uh, two weekends. You listen to the, the shockwaves podcast too, right? The Bloomhouse podcast. Yes. Yes. And they were talking about that and they were also talking about the, the positive side of this. Is that they're re-releasing a lot of those original universal films on Blu-ray now, which is cool. Yes, I've seen them.

Right. So they are pretty cool. Yeah, you know, you kind of got to take the bad with the good, you know? Yeah. My daughter is still afraid of mummies after watching the 1932. I really enjoyed it. I can't believe I had never seen it before, you know? Yeah. I really want to see the first sequel now, The Mummy's Hand.

That one sounded really interesting. Yeah, it really does, man. And we're back on track now. Well, okay, so it's a three-hour movie, so obviously there's got to be more to talk about. Brian, I want you to tell me what the fuck that end-credit scene was all about. I guess it's teasing that Unicron is coming. So he can transform and squish the world? That's where I'm confused.

Because if he's in the earth and he transforms or he even, it looks like if he even moves a little bit, then Earth's just fucked. Right. Completely. And I'm assuming that lady was, what was her name? I guess the villain of the movie,

Quintessa. Yeah, there you go. I think that was her because, I think in the third Transformer movie, they showed that they can basically do like kind of a hologram disguise as humans. So I think that was her. Because it kind of showed her face starting to distort. Yeah, I mean, it was definitely her. Okay.

So she's still alive. But it definitely opened for a sequel. Let's see. I like that they brought Josh Dumas, Dumas, Dumas, Dumas, how do you say it's name? Or as the binge cast listeners lovingly refer to him, Josh Douche, Amel. Oh, I like that guy. I like the call back. They brought him back.

You know, they tried to make them older looking with the gray. I thought it was cool. I like him. That was pretty cool. I like the call back to Shia that he is part of this. Are they, so are they saying he's dead in this movie? I don't know, but I like that they had his picture in there, and I like that it was a super goofy shot.

Yeah, because it was so funny. He's supposed to be part of this Merlin bloodline, right? Is he? No, I think he was part of, like, the Guardians' bloodline. Okay, okay, so I thought, because I thought they were inferring that he was dead now, because they said that she was the last. No, I don't think he was related to Merlin. I think he was just one of the Transformer Guardians.

Okay. But, yeah, where I've lost my... my train of thought. It's because you're picturing Salliabov's crazy-ass face. Yeah. Shot. Yeah, I mean, yeah, at the end of the day,

I don't have too much else to say about this one, guys. I just really, like I said, I went in, actually literally wringing my hands like an evil B grade villain saying, Yeah. I can't wait to fuck with Brian on the internet. I can't wait to fuck with Brian.

But you know, Lance, I was, man but you know what lance i was right there with you i kind of i kind of chose this movie i thought this was going to be a fun conversation because i thought it was going to be really bad based off of the last one that does make sense yeah and it just really surprised me you know like i said i like the medieval aspect of the of the beginning of the movie the beginning scenes were awesome where they were where they were fighting the battle yeah they were firing those uh what was it they They fired like those fireballs against each other and stuff like that. Yeah.

Yeah. That was really cool. See, it was just that ending scene. Too much going on. There was a whole lot of stuff going on and I felt myself kind of drifting and looking around and not paying attention to what was going on, you know? Right. And another scene that I really like because I felt like they were misused in the previous movie was the Dino Bots. Yeah.

They came in and they served their purpose and then they were gone. And I like that they were like just. Big dogs. Yes. Although, okay, I got to throw this in there. My favorite morning show, the Rod Ryan show. Check it out on IHeart Radio, if you haven't heard it. They have a band list name, and they referred to Fergie one time as Josh Dumel's

P penis garage. What? And then they put that on the band name list, so if they restarted a band, that could be a band name. Oh, man. I wanted to throw that out there because it's one of my favorite things that they've ever said. The band name that I thought of that I would love to start is the Black Mormons. The Black Mormons? Wouldn't that be a cool name for a heavy metal man?

Not as cool as Josh D.Mill's penis crush. Yeah, okay. You got me on that one, man. What about you, Brian? Have you ever fantasized about like a heavy metal band name or something like that? I can't say that I have. I don't... I'll just be a roadie. I don't know. That's the wrong with that, man. The puckered cupcakes.

Yeah, you're the roadie, so you're in charge of going out and finding the drugs and the women and bringing them back. Somebody's got to do it. All right. This is it, man. That's a wrap. That's a wrap. It's a wrap. First ever for the horror returns.

Yeah. Pleasantly surprised on this whole episode, man. That was great. I fully came in. back you to give it a two. Put that on the DVD box, pleasantly surprised. Yeah, exactly.

For real. That would be a good book. Better than they say it is. All right, cool. Well, look, we're going to do the lead out of the show then, and we're actually going to get ready to, I think, discuss here in a few minutes our second show. Okay.

For certain reasons, which I'll let Phil, let do all the close-out stuff and explain why we're having to record two shows at once this week. Okay. Well, as always, we want to thank you for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas, as mentioned before. Check us out at the Horror Returns.com. Please, please email us. And look for us on iTunes.

And if you like what you hear, please rate us and review us. Even if you don't like what you hear, rate us and review us anyway. We need some reviews in iTunes, guys. One way or the other, right? What do we have to do? All right. Next week, Lance will be on vacation in Barcelona. Yes.

I can't fucking wait. Amsterdam by the seat. But we will still get in a show for you guys featuring Spanish horror. We'll be reviewing REC as well as the Day of the Beast, which came recommended my Lars from Denmark. That's right. Thanks, buddy.