The Horror Returns - THR: Flashback - Our First Texas Frightmare!

Episode Date: March 25, 2022

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victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. If I'm not mistaken, I see a gorgeous Native American over here. Oh, it's Kevin Nez from the Magnus Podcast in East Society, I think.

Is that you, Kevin? What's going on, guys? We're just meeting up with people, getting lots of autographs, spending tons of money, for sure. What are you doing? Mostly on alcohol. I want to look at the bill. They got T-shirts, a couple autographs.

I got a few interviews, which I'm hyped about. Whoa, thank you. I'm going to throw that all on my next episode once I get home and put it all together. I had a good time today. I did go outside and take a little breather because I was burnt out for yesterday. And, but I almost fell asleep for like maybe 10 minutes, but it was so hot outside. I just woke me up and I came back in.

Sleep outside? Yeah, I didn't care. Like you on a bench? No, I went sat in the car. Good time, man. I saw a lot of, caught a lot of cool things, met a lot of cool new people. And one more day of this. So what would be your advice to anybody who has never been to the Texas Frightmare weekend before

and wants to come for their first time? How should they approach it? What should be the battle plan? Bring a lot of money. Bring snacks because the little snacks they had here are super expensive. You might as well be buying them at the airport. Mostly money. Yeah, mostly money. Luckily I did all that overtime, so I did have money to spend.

And just wear a nice pair of walking shoes. I'm glad I bought a brand new pair because my feet feel good. They're not as bad. And this con isn't actually that big compared to the giant ones that I go to San Diego, New York. But you do got to have a good pair of walking shoes. And don't be one of those people that gets mad when people bump you. Because every few feet you go, someone's bumping into you. So, I mean, every time I bump someone, I said excuse me, but everyone else never said nothing to me.

It's crowded. There's only so many things you can do, man. Yeah, but everything I saw was cool. I mean, I definitely want to come back next year. I hope the padded room, yeah, the padded room podcast guys get to come. I know they always want to. And hopefully Brian can come down next year, as well as Big Jesse and the Hellbilly. That would be awesome if all of us were here.

Yeah, that would definitely be good, man. So I know that I bought, let's see, I bought a Malcolm McDowell autograph. My wife's bought about seven or eight comic books for the kids. It's about a whole bunch of artwork. You found some artwork, didn't you, babe? Yes, lots of fun artwork. So we got a lot of goodies for all the little ones. We got a lot of goodies for ourselves.

We got a, you got an autograph too, didn't you, from Opie, from Sons of Anarchy? I got to touch Opie. That's all that matters. Philip, what about you guys, man? I got to touch Opie, too. He had soft hands. Oh, shit. Yeah, a real thug, huh?

Philip, what did you pick up, man? What did you spend your money on this weekend? Man, I got a record from Doyle from the Misfits. And then, you know, met a few people, Malcolm McDowell. We did an interview with D and E.31 guys, which just super cool, man. that's been my highlight. All of 31, man. I have a new respect for that movie,

just because all the actors are cool with shit. All right, well, Brian, we know you're listening, maybe, because you're on the podcast with us, and I think 31 was one of your bottom five of the year last year, but, hey, we have a new respect. We want you to watch the movie again. Maybe you'll feel differently now. It's an acquired taste.

All right. It's cheesy, and it's Rob Zombie, and it's like Slashor 70s shit. But it's cool. All right, Kevin. Any final thoughts, man? Yeah, as well as me for 31. When I first saw it, I was kind of like, eh, that's it.

Yeah. It was like... It was okay, man. I wanted it to be the sex head, sick head, doomhead. The other ones... Death hand. Yeah, death, dead heads, all of them, pretty much. I am going to definitely

movie another watch. I had an awesome conversation with the Poncho Moller. He was really cool. Talked to him for like a long time. Forgot to pull out my recorder. But hey man, it's all right, man. He said a lot of good heartwarming things.

And we talked a lot about skateboarding and everything. So I think I'm going to definitely give it another watch and I'll probably look at it with different eyes after meeting all those guys and realizing how fucking cool all. All of them were. I also met Rob Zombie at Comic-Con, and he was pretty cool, too. So, yeah, when I get home, I'll definitely get a watch.

Pontchermolor signed my Blu-ray, so I was pretty stoked about that. All right, cool. So you heard it here, so meeting up with Kevin. We will be back with more updates on the Horror Returns. Hey, hey, Philip. Check it out, dude. I think it's Ricky and Danny from the Helming Power Hour. I could be wrong, but isn't that them?

We'll talk about stabbing him later. Hey, how's it going? No, EG. No, I can't go out with you. I'll talk to you later. He's trying to hook up with EG. Daily. You can't blame him for that. All right. But I don't know why you guys are here. Aren't you all supposed to be back in 1985 or something like that? Well, they kicked us out in 1985.

We were taking their best media and doing all kinds of awful stuff to it. It really comes down to Duran Duran. We kind of had a lawsuit with them. So we had to build another time chicken and get away. and unfortunately it just dropped us here. Well, here's the thing. I saw a chicken running around here. Is that the time chicken or is that a different chicken?

That's him. Was it wearing a hat? He has to wear a hat. And we're going to get him little shoes. It's going to be adorable. I'm a little worried about what's going to happen for the rest of the night. Well, listen, I think everybody that listens to our show knows about you guys. But why don't you tell everybody where they can hear your show?

Well, of course, with the Halming Power Hour, you can Google that. I'm sure it'll bring up all kinds of... Just Google it, your bastardsages. Right, right. So you can find us on Legion podcasts and iTunes, SoundCloud. Google Play, Stitcher. Your mama. Google Play.

Google Play, your mama. Right? You can find it anywhere. Find podcasts our soul. SoundCloud, yo. Yeah. YouTube, yo. And let me ask you this.

Who is your sponsor this week? Who is it? Then we come up with one? Hold on, hold on. Oh, no, we got one. We do. It's a coffee company. It's a relatively new startup.

Now, we're not talking coffee enemas, are we? Not coffee enemas, although Sam Jackson has done their, it's Mother Parker's, or it's Martha Parker's? Martha Parker's. Coffee. Yeah. You want some Mother Parker's coffee? You want some coffee?

Martha Parker's. You want some, Mother Parker's? They should be. storming in the coffee industry soon. And also don't forget about the A-Team plumbing company. We pity the stool. I feel like there's something in my way, so I should probably say things. Thanks to you.

Hello. All right, cool. Well, it's good running into you guys. Maybe we'll catch up with you again tomorrow or Sunday at the Texas Frightmare weekend in Dallas, Texas. It's been lots of fun. We'll make sure to hit you out then. All right. All right, cool.

Don't lose those kilos that you're supposed to drop. Greetings, listeners, you have found the horror returns. For all of you who delight in dread, fantasize about fear and glorify gore. Welcome home. This is the podcast that proves that the horror never ends. And instead of our usual reviewing a new film and an older film, we're bringing you a special one-off episode here. It's sort of a bonus episode, if you will.

I'm going to think we'll probably call this one, Texas Frum. Fright Mare Weekend Celebration. It's a celebration, bitches. Yeah, that's poor letter words. Even Jesse Peekman showed up. Yay, all right. So Philip and I have spent some time out there at Texas Frightmare. Brian, you weren't able to go with us, but, you, man, you worked your ass off behind the scenes.

Getting the interviews set up for us. Doing a lot of Twitter stuff on Twitter, a lot of stuff on Facebook, really promoting. and getting us out there, man. So our hat's off to you, Brian. I know it's a long way down here from Alaska, brother, but thank you for everything you've done, man. You guys did your hand down there. You guys were making some contacts,

meeting a lot of people down there. Yeah, we had a good time. I mean, Philip, get it rolling, man. What was the cool of the convention, man? Ah, that is a good way to start. The cool of the convention? I gotta go, Saska's sisters.

How can that not be the cool of the convention? They were, they came, on Saturday night, they all came out to the bar. We saw just celebrities walking around everywhere. Keith David just, like, walked up to me and shook my hand. Yeah, that's, just out of the blue. Keith David, not David Keith, folks, for the guys playing the horror returns drinking game at home. The good one.

And yeah, we walked right up to the Saskas sisters table, and we were just kind of standing there waiting to talk to them, which I'm sure looked totally awkward. They were mid-conversation with, like, the guys from Friday the 13th, 5 or whatever. and so they were in the middle of the conversation because I think they're working on a movie together or something and they saw us just hanging out and they were like hey guys what's up and came and gave us hugs we talked to them for like 10 minutes

and just hung out at their table they took pictures everything man they walked away from going to hang out with Malcolm McDowell to come back and hang out with us like they were definitely the coolest people there. Well, I, man, I can't argue, I can't argue with you on that at all, man. And they were just, you know, so, so real and down to earth, which is awesome. Talking about giant cats. Hey, talking about giant cats, let's see, they talked about, one of them was worried about being pursued by Ron Jeremy. We talked a little, at one point, and they had to be chased away. We talked some American Mary. We talked some Helvator. We talked a little bit about what. what they had coming up next.

It was a lot of fun, but I think my cool of the week goes back to the, to the dude that they went over to talk to, and then ran back over and talked with us, and that's the man himself, Malcolm McDowell. That was definitely a high point, getting an autograph and meeting up with him was definitely a high point of the trip for me.

Definitely the big name of the convention. Did you get your Funko autographed? You know what? I got the Funko given to, me afterwards and I, oh, there's a story about the poster that I've got for Clockwork Orange because I searched high and low. I looked in every closet in my house. I've got a Clockwork Orange poster I probably bought like 20 years ago. I couldn't find that thing anywhere. So we get, and I was telling AJ it said, well, I'll just pass on getting the autograph then. If I can't

find the poster, I'm not too worried about it. But we get there. He's like the very first person you see when you walk into the first room and, uh, you know, you know, you're, you know, you Yeah, it was going to happen. He had a replica of the poster that I had in a smaller size that I was able to get autographed, that I'm still going to get framed. And you've got to admit, Philip, if it wasn't for his fucking agent. Oh, yeah. We'd absolutely had a Malcolm McDowell sound bite, man.

All of them had agents, and we had to, like, dodge them to get them to speak to us. Yeah, that's kind of the, that's kind of the, little trick, the little secret that we learned here. So we got, we were able to get probably about half the people or close to half the people we approached, were able to, to, if not talk to us outright, give us an interview. We, you know, we at least got a sound bite for the, for the podcast, but you kind of start to look, if they're like near a handler or an agent or something like that, I don't know, Phil, maybe next time one of us should try to get the attention of the agent or something like that and the other one should move in for the kill or something?

Yeah, I guess, you know, a lot of the bigger name guys, and maybe it's just because they're busy all day, but I feel like if we're, you know, buying some overpriced autograph, because oh my God, who wants to pay that shit? But you get caught up in the moment, you know? But if we're paying for it, I think they could give us a sound bite, too, but apparently they're not allowed. So, yeah, definitely see if we can divide and conquer. It was definitely a case-by-case basis.

I think all the ones that, for the most part, all the ones that wouldn't give us a sound bite, they had a good reason for it, you know, under contract or something like, it. It made sense. So we certainly didn't hold it against anybody. It may have been an excuse, but at least it sounded good. Well, Brian, look, you weren't there, so why don't we do the show this way? Why don't you kind of live vicariously a little bit through our experience and ask us, what you want to ask us, man. Who are some people that

you would have wanted to make sure you went out of your way to see while you were there? What were some of the things you wanted to see at the vendors? Maybe we can kind of give you some insight into what we got into, man. Well, the one thing I really wanted to ask you guys was, did you guys make it to any of the panels, like the Fright Night or the Friday of 13th or any of those? Philip?

Yeah, we did. saw a couple of them. We were a little slow to start on the panels thing. I think just because we were so starstruck and walking around and seeing everything that was there. But we did make it to the Bates Motel, mostly because we're doing the Bates Motel season five overview next week, right? Yeah. I think so, yeah. I think it's going to be on the air within about a week when people hear this, yeah. so yeah we got a bunch extra stuff to put on that episode uh plus it was a whole lot of fun man

those guys were really cool um and then we did uh the rob zombie 31 uh panel uh mostly because they all gave us little sound bites and interviews and stuff we've probably got more things from uh rob zombie's folks than anybody else uh and then

the fright night panel came right after the Mates and Hoselle panels, so we missed that one. I think that's about all we saw, huh? Did you go to that Suspheria panel? No, I didn't. I really wanted to go to the thing panel, but that's the one that we were running a little bit late, Saturday morning with breakfast.

See, here's one thing we would definitely do different next year, Brian, is be really aggressive to make sure we get a room at the actual Hyatt Hotel where the event takes place. Oh, yeah, definitely recommend. been doing that. Yeah, we both ended up staying at different hotels. Like ours was right across the way from it, but right across the way in the middle of the airport is still a, DFW Airport is still, you know, a 30-minute ordeal to get from one to the other. And there's a limited number of places where you can eat and stuff like that. I think the way they did it over there at the, at the Hyatt Regency, where the event took place for breakfast. I think they had the right idea to do the buffet

because that way you're just kind of in and you're kind of in and you're out, you know? Well, and because they had so many people, and they were ready for that, the Hyatt Regency, man. They had, everybody was dressed up. It was like if you were coming in there and you didn't know that this horror festival was going on, you would be freaking out walking through the door. What is wrong with all these people? Oh, yeah, for sure, man. Satan just walked by me.

Yeah, it was, uh, definitely, definitely, uh, shout out to, to the Hyatt Regency big time. I mean, that's, they, these guys know what they're doing. And, you know, obviously big shout out to Texas Frightmare. I mean, you know, there's a couple of, um, guests that certain people wanted to see that canceled at the last minute for, you know, reasons because they had work to do, you know, things come up. Right. It's like any, any other real human being, you know, you've got shit happens, as they say.

So that kind of stuff's going to happen, but I thought they handled it really well. I know in addition to having signs up everywhere they, I know I got an email. Phil, did you get an email about the two Walking Dead stars that weren't going to make it for Sunday? I was just cruising the website to try to see what the schedule was, and I happened to see that one. And so, yeah, the Walking Dead people, except what's her name, Polly Ann? Pollyanna McIntosh was there. Yeah, she was there. And then all of the...

Oh, yes. Stranger Things. Yeah, none of the Stranger Things guys came. I don't know if they had some sort of scheduling conflict or what, but they all dropped out. Yeah, I think leading up to it, it seemed to be like just one right after another was dropping out. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I remember those kids cancel. I think the 11 canceled first and then the rest kind of followed suit not too long after that.

but yeah I mean I think they did the best they could with what they had to work with you know what I mean but yeah Brian I know you would have wanted to go to the thing panel for sure oh absolutely and I was really hoping to record it just for you man but sorry dude we got like I said we had a little late start that that particular day I mean we'll learn a lot we've learned a lot that's for sure right Phil I mean we'll do a lot of things differently next time beers are so expensive that's what i learned

oh the beers oh i've got an idea for that but we're going to talk about that off air says you what else what else what else how how were the vendors did you guys pick up any uh any like t-shirts posters movies or anything that's all there is there all there is to do there is buy a bunch of shit that you don't need so that's what we did man we walked around and buying a bunch of shit we don't need. Right. Let's see. Let me try to think

of what all they had. I mean, obviously they've got you know, the typical t-shirts, figurines, things like that. Yeah. I was kind of surprised to see a tattoo artist there. Oh yeah. He was cool as shit too, man. Like, we bought a print

from him and he like autographed the back of it and everything. Some Hollywood horror tattoo artist or something. Like I saw Richard Brake grabbed him in the hall and took a picture with him. Speaking of Richard Brake,

I got to say something about this dude, man. This is one of the guys that I actually reached out to him pretty early on. Actually, I didn't even reach out to him. I reached out to his agent. And Richard personally sent me an email, and these things get hectic. We'll do the best.

tried to swing by kind of late Saturday. So we actually went by there, I think, well, first thing we did feel is we had to go by and give, and give, and give, and give, and give, De Wallace a big hug, didn't we? Oh, yeah, man. Dee Wallace gave us a great interview. Thank you so much, Brian.

She looked like she was super cool. She definitely was. Yeah, really, really sweet. And she gave us like 30 minutes. for an interview over Skype. So we'll definitely play that. That's coming on this episode, right? Yeah, actually, that's going to be at the end of the episode, folks.

And the good thing about, yeah, the good thing about that is that, that's right, we did it way, we did it way before the, well, what, about three days before the conventions. And so that's why you're going to kind of hear us talking in the future tense when we're discussing Frightmare. So just kind of theater of the mind folks, remember that when you hear that at the end of the interview. but that was definitely the right way to do it because we were able to get 30 minutes with relative quiet. There was a little noise in the background from where I was recording.

That's my fault, folks. Sorry about that. But we will definitely play that at the end of the show. But yeah, after that, I think we went by and saw the 31 guys and talked with all of them and did a pretty good interview with the one and only Richard Brake. All right, so the moment you've all been waiting for. We're here with Richard Brake, obviously Doomhead in 31.

Richard, what was it like working with Rob Zombie? I was just talking to this? I love working with Rob. He's by far my favorite director. I've said that many times, and I stick by it. There's no one better than Rob. What he does, I think, more than anything else is he makes everybody excel, beyond anything they could imagine they could do.

I'm not talking about just actors, like the producers, the people who might be there helping out for the first time on a film, you know, assisted runners, etc. Everybody excels beyond anything they could do, and that's why his films are so great. He's got a real talent. The work you've done on Game of Thrones, we've got to ask you about that.

Is it heavy makeup or is it mostly CGI? How hard is that to get ready for? That's all makeup. The CGI, the old. only CGI is on the eyes, basically. And I wear contacts that are the big as you can put in a human eye, but then there's CGI on top of that. But otherwise, that's

six hours of prosthetics to take on, and then about two hours to take off. So we notice you have a new movie coming out called Dare, which looks very interesting. But can you say anything about it at this point? Only that it's terrifying. The script itself was probably

one of the most insane scripts I've ever read, and I play. once again a very unpleasant human being. And believe it or not, not the worst in the whole film. There's so many worse than me. So that tells you how bad it is. And that's what we like to see. So I've got one question for you.

Is there anything that you're very passionate about or anything that means a lot to you that you'd like to talk about? The floor is yours, Richard. He threw me off guard on that one. There's a lot of things, a lot of things. But, you know, maybe what's going on? of the White House right now. That's one of them. And so that was our Richard.

That was our Richard Brake interview. He spent a little bit of time talking to us. Obviously, you can tell the guys got a sense of humor. He was not at all like Doomhead in real life, was he, Phil? No, no. Yeah, he was, we asked him to do some stuff in the Doomhead voice, and he was like, oh, man, you're asking me to get into a big character here. Right.

That's cool. We'll give you, like, ten minutes. and you just you think about it and then we'll come back and finish it up okay right no he was no he was super cool he uh he was he was he was very relaxed and chill and easy to talk to um and even like we went up to him a couple of times in the beginning because we had already contacted him and he's like ah it's a little hectic right now why don't you try back um later on saturday and so we came back and he was just ready to do it man did a little interview with this Davis, the sound bite, he was super awesome.

Also plays the, I mean, I know everybody that's listening to the podcast knows who he is, but just in case. Also plays the head White Walker guy in Game of Thrones. The Knights King. There you go, just in case you don't know who he is. Yeah, he was kick-ass. Super nice guy. Yeah, and so we already talked about Malcolm McDowell, who was there, but we also met Torsten Vojus. Is that how you pronounce it?

Oh, yeah. He was pretty intimidating looking. Deathhead. That's right, Deathhead. We talked to Jeff Daniel Phillips a little bit. David Erie. David Erie. Jeff Daniel Phillips blew us off because he's a jerk.

He's a jerk because he's a jerk. He was a jerk because he's a jerk. He was, like, it wasn't anything special. he was just like oh yeah i'm kind of busy right now but this guy i talked to you right here and uh and and and gave and so he sent us over to get another interview so that he didn't have to do it hey how cool was uh poncho mowler man poncho muller was awesome yeah he gave us a little sound bite um we listened to him in the panel he was super charismatic had a lot of funny stories he seems like a really down-to-earth guy, you know, for somebody who played a, like a Nazi little person, Spanish-speaking psychopath.

Yeah, I think Kevin got a few words with him, too. Oh, yeah, for sure. They're both skateboarders. Yeah, I did not know that until I had seen stuff he had posted on Facebook. I didn't know he used to be a pro skateboarder. Yeah, I didn't either. Kevin said he actually skated with him. one time. That is fucking cool.

Go kidding. Yeah. Speaking of fucking cool, yeah, David, Yuri, Yuri was pretty good. And we see, you guys may have seen him in Breaking Bad. He was a character named Spooge for a couple of episodes. Do you all remember that? Oh, yeah. He was the one that Jeff sent us over to.

He was like, hey, but Jeff will do it for you. And he was like, I'll do what? Well, I'll put it to you this way. He was so cool that I brought him a beer. How about that? Yeah, and he was the only one we brought a beer for, man. He gave us our first soundbite. Absolutely, and I asked him, hey, David, are you allowed to, hell yeah, give me that beer, man.

It's pretty cool. He was cool. He was funny. And then Meg Foster, but I think you'll talk about her a little bit more in the panel discussion, right? Philip? Yeah, I want to talk about, before we get to Meg, I want to talk about how awesome E.G. Daily was, who played sex head. And that's our other interview.

Yeah, that's our other interview. We had her set up prior to going out there, and she just stopped everything that she was doing. Her phone was ringing off the hook or whatever, and just came and gave us her full attention, was talking to us for probably 10, 15 minutes or so. And even some of it wasn't actually on the interview. She was just kind of hanging out.

All right. So here we are, The Horror Returns. We got another interview this time. We're with the famous EG Daily. EG, I'm kind of an old guy. So I remember you from Better Off Dead. Yeah, that's a good one. I'd be better off dead.

Than to live without you. That's it. Yeah, good one. Valley Girl? Valley Girl, yeah. Of course I remember that one. And, of course. You could forget the lovely Doddy.

Can we go to the drive-in? Oh, Rugrats. A baby's got her new lot. A baby's got her new. All right, so EG., how have things changed in the industry since those beautiful days of the 80s? I think things are just, is that for me? Okay, sorry.

No problem. And then, where are we? So how have things changed from the 80s till today in the industry? Things from the 80s to today? I would just say, um, uh, It just seemed like they were, I don't know, it just seemed like, what's the difference now? It just seems like works a little bit different now.

It's like you have to reach out and try different things all the time now because it just seems like in the 80s it was endless movies and these really sweet little different kinds of movies. Now it just seems like it just feels a little bit different. Yeah, you definitely have to read. I mean, some things they just offer me. That's cool. Yeah. So we recently saw 31 and you were sex head. What was it like working with Rob Zombie?

Because we've interviewed some other people that have worked with him, and so we want to hear what you have to say. You know, yeah, so I did Devils with Rob, and then we did 31, and he's just a really cool guy. Like, I'd never met him before, and he just cast me. And for the first movie, they just called, and he just offered me that rolled candy, and then all of a sudden, 10 years later,

I get a call for a sex head, and he knows exactly how he wants to cast you. Like, he literally, like, has pictures drawn before you get cast of how you know you as the character like i was like that picture looks like me and then i get this fall it's me they cast me so he's really like very specific about like this is torston and torsson and torsson plays my piece right it's deathhead and i love him so yeah we just we had a blast and rob just knows what he's doing when he picks well like you said in the movie what's coming next is sex and death yeah and isn't that life sex and death which is such a departure from a lot of the voice acting things that you've done

Yeah, especially when you go from Tommy Pickles to Sex Ed. Like, what? Yeah, it's really fun. How do you get your mind ready for that? They're all, like, different people. You know what I mean? It's like Tommy's, you know, Tommy's this little kid, he's a little boy. And then you got Taylor, Sailor.

You know, you got Sex Ed, who's that? And then it's like, who's that? Like, oh, my, sorry, I'm getting tons of calls. Oh, no. So, yeah, so, like, they're just different people. Like, everybody's different. So people are like, why do you do, like, a kid? thing and an adult thing. I'm like, I just am a vessel for art, so I do what I do. And then I let

everybody, like, the moms watch their kids from watching this stuff is not appropriate. And I, you know what I mean? I just be the artist and the vessel for creating art. And then the parents take care of their kids and what's safe for them and not. Because I'm a mother, so I like my kids to be safe too. But my job as an artist is do as many beautiful things are impacting things as I I want to do. Totally different character for each role. Yeah. Why not? I'm also with these guys So I'm not just standing here My name is Nez from the MacNess podcast

I only have one question And it is about Valley Girl I grew up and I love that movie I also did an episode on it Doing that First of all do you still keep in contact With the Valley Girls? Yes

Every once in a while I hear from Deborah on social media Heidi Hollacher and I went out to dinner recently Like maybe within the month So I see her I saw her at a Valley Girl screening And then once in a while I see think on that. I haven't seen Nick in a while, but you never went to all you cross paths, but mostly Heidi I've literally hung out with very recently. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, where was a, where was the mall that they filmed?

It wasn't a valley. The valley would be messing up. Yeah. Hey, thank you so much. It's my pleasure, you guys. Hi, it's a me. You guys. Yeah. Thank you. Don't forget to tell everybody, follow me on Instagram. Really, you already, I've already heard your messages. Yeah, where can, where can, can all our fans find all your work and your your uh facebook page you guys can find me at instagram real egy daily twitter real eG daily and facebook just make sure it's a real facebook because there's some fake ones all right i think you're busy so thank you so much for your time and uh she even grabbed your wife lansson and and grabbed a selfie with her huh she was super cool that's right yeah we were done with the interview and she said who's this who is this she said oh i'm just

with them. She said, get over here, you? And then, of course, she did the interview in like four or five different voices. Yeah, which was awesome. It's impressive to hear them, to like hear her talk like that. It's crazy. She's got such personality, man. She was, I had a hard time deciding between the Soska sisters, who were awesome just on their own merits. Or EG. Daily who was just legitimately really cool and down to earth. Yeah, it's met a lot of cool people.

I'll tell you somebody who I went over and talked with for a little while was when we were getting ready to do the Bates Motel stuff. I spoke a little bit with Nestor Carbonell. Brian, I'm sure you're real familiar with a lot of his work. Yes, he's

the sheriff on Bates Motel. And I believe he was also he was the mayor or I might be getting it wrong but I know he was in the dark night movies he was he was the mayor of Gotham and in those but I mainly remember him for his part as one of the others in the show lost yeah that's right is the show I never

never got into it's a great show man he's been in a thousand things though man that guy as far as like veteran actors go man he was he was kind of on the top of the list there there were some young and up and comers and stuff, but I mean, he was, you know, that guy's been in more stuff than a lot of those guys combined. Right. How was Ryan Hurst, Opie?

He was kind of one of the bigger dudes there. He was pretty buzzed, too, I think. Yeah, he was definitely drinking. But you know what? During the Bates Motel panel, he was probably the most charismatic. like from from word number one i can't remember what it was it was really funny and then every time there was a lull in the conversation or whatever he would throw out this punchline and everything he said was just gold it was super funny he seemed really cool in there but once he got outside

of the panel and stuff he didn't i don't think he really talked to anybody it was like just uh by my signature sign take picture on to the next one You know? Yeah, he seemed to keep to himself a little bit. My wife was awfully happy to hug up with him and get an autograph and everything. That was kind of, I think that was her cool of the convention. You think? See that way, didn't it?

She, he was, I remember when security had it, or he was walking with a security guard past everybody, and she kind of tried to pounce on him a little bit there. Did you see that, Philip? Yeah, yeah, because he walked right past us. That dude is like huge in real life. Like, he's a big dude. You know, a lot of actors are kind of tiny. That guy's not at all.

Right. Did you guys get to talk to Freddie Highmore? No. His line was out the fucking door. It's the whole time. Absolutely. Like, I don't know what the deal was. Maybe he was spending 10 minutes on each person, and he was really cool.

I don't know. On the panel, he sounded like, just like he does on base most tell, except, slightly more soft-spoken and British. So he had this very high-pitched, like, calming voice. Matter of fact, as soon as he started talking, some lady behind us was like, Oh, isn't he so cute? Yeah, when you guys listen to our Bates Motel episode,

you'll hear that. Yeah. Hey, I'll tell you somebody who was kind of off the beaten path from what we came to do, because I'm not a huge Friday of the 13th fan. I know Kevin is, but Deborah Vorhees, one of the actresses that was in Part 5,

was just the sweet, absolute sweetest lady in the world, man. I must have, like, every time I walk past her, because I walked to her early and asked if she would give us a sound bite, and she did. And it's like, every time I walked past her, she would jump up and wave at me and remember me.

And she's actually the one person, I think of all the guests that ended up with a horror returns T-shirt. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. She said, hey, nice shirt. I said, okay, you want one? Cool.

Gave her a T-shirt. There you go. Yeah, definitely shout-out to her for sure. Absolutely. Yeah, there were a few of them that went above and beyond. Okay, I have to ask. So far, I'm jealous of the Soska sisters and EG Daily. But how was it meeting Rick Flair?

man he was he certainly was walking around a whole lot um and he he was very cool but a little bit closed off which i assume you have to be like that uh but the first time i saw him i i met him probably ten fucking times the whole time because he was just walking around everywhere uh was at the bar and uh i was just going up there to refill on a beer and come back down and i went up and got a beer and was like, hey, how he's going? Holy shit, you're Rick Flare. I just want to say, man. Big fan, I don't want to bother you.

He was like, oh, thanks, man. And so, went back downstairs, ran into him later in the bathroom. Yeah, I didn't really say anything to him in the bathroom because what the fuck you're supposed to do there? Right. And then, yeah, I sat down with him and got a picture. We tried to get a sound bite,

but he wasn't allowed to do that. that stuff, but he was at least pretty cool about it. Rick Flair was awesome, man. I have a new respect for him. It was kind of like meeting a legend, you know? Yeah, absolutely. I'll tell you who I kept seeing pop up everywhere in that convention, no matter where you turned, it seemed like Udo Kira was there, you know?

Yes. Yeah, he was everywhere. Felt like I had Dracula coming after me or something, you know. I think that's just how he is. He is everywhere all the time. He's watching right now. Look out of Tuto. Did you guys see Michael Barryman?

Oh, yeah. He was, he was everywhere, too. He was, every time he turned around, there he is. Yeah, he's hard with this, man. Yeah, he's, I would imagine he's very noticeable. Well, we didn't actually get a good conversation with him. Did you guys meet, uh, Shannon Elizabeth? Ah, I knew that was coming.

You want to take the floor on this one? Well, if we're going to go over the story, the way it happened, I guess we'll do that. We were kind of just trying to walk up to people and get as many little sound bites for you guys as we could, you know? And so normally their answer is, like we said, oh, you know, we're not allowed. The agents stop us before we can get it, whatever. Shannon Elizabeth, I just walked up to her. She's still effing gorgeous, by the way, even in her like. 40s.

So I shook her hand. I was like, hey, I just wanted to say I'm a big fan. And we're from the Horror Returns podcast. You might have got a good sound bite. And she like, she went from the smile when I was shaking her hand. And like you could see the smile kind of fade. And those lines that are that are starting to form around her face got like real harsh. And she was like, I don't do podcast.

cast. Wow. You're a little off. No worries. I don't think you ever got that far. I think, hey, we're from the horror returns pot. And I think at that moment, that's what she said, we don't, I don't do that. Well, that's kind of, well, you know, I was going to finish the sentence.

And I was kind of thinking, well, that's kind of funny considering how much you've worked with Kevin Smith, not to do podcast, but, you know, whatever. To each their own. I'll tell you who the polar opposite of that was. Amanda Biers Oh yeah Marcy Darcy for married with children Like wow

Yeah she's amazing person Amazing person She's pretty much everything I've heard that she is Very approachable Real down to earth She wanted to just keep visiting Kind of like Nestor was you know

Yeah That's really awesome You know who else was kind of a dick Doyle from the misfits. No. Well, I assume that's probably part of his persona, but I actually went up and bought a record off of him and had him sign it and got a picture and everything.

And I was like, hey man, you mind if we get a quick soundbite for our podcast? And he's like, nah. Like toss this little marker on the table. I was like, right? on. Catch you later. I guess he's too punk for that.

Yeah, too punk. Too punk for a fledgling, independent little podcast like we are, huh? Yeah, he probably shouldn't be in a podcast. Shannon Elizabeth. You know, you know she's going to be there this weekend. She is.

Oh, I know. We should go ask her for another soundbite. I'm thinking, I'm thinking about it, man. I'm thinking about it. It wouldn't be funny. She would say the exact same thing, and we'd be like, All right.

So, kind of like once again, we would be singing the song from Baron Moonshousen, Cut down in my prime. But that kills you for like 10 minutes because then I'm like, fuck,

I don't want to ask the next guy now. Right. Yeah, but there was always the next person. So anyway, wrap up, it was a phenomenal experience. We will be back. next year. We can't

think, frightenar enough, for extending the invitation to us and allowing us to show up as members of the press and talk to these people and attend these panels. We really appreciate everything, and I mean, these guys know how to put on a good show, for sure.

Phillips, any things you want to say before we move on to what we're doing this upcoming weekend? Okay, well, what did we learn that we can tell our listeners? Most of our listeners, I'm sure, have been to these things a thousand times. But what did we learn this year from this one in particular that we can take away and use next year to make it better?

Sneak in your own beer? Well. I wasn't going to say. Yeah, that probably wouldn't hurt. I don't think they were checking bags or anything. So, damn, that's an amazing idea. We should do that. Well, and especially now that, hey, now that we know the guests can.

can accept them, you know. Hey, why not? Oh, yeah. We probably should be saying all this. Oh, that's okay. I think it's good information, man. And then, okay, and then to get the hotel at the Regency, which, if, assuming they have it there again next year, it seems like they do every year. You probably got to go like day one, huh?

No, I think the key from what I heard from a couple of different people was that you just have to always keep your eyes open because the venue is pretty much always the same but the date changes. Yeah. But you got to book it like day one, otherwise the agency sold out, huh? Yeah, I think within the first couple of days

it would be a good idea, you know? Yeah, because we book ours like months in advance. Right. And what else? What else? Insider information. Oh, definitely hit the convention early, right? Do what

do what we did and the stars that you really, really, really want to see or you really want to get that autograph, go to them first. So whatever, like if they're only there Saturday and Sunday, make a B-line for their line first thing Saturday. If they're there all weekend, you'd be a little bit more casual, but try to show up as quickly as everything opens Friday as you can. Oh, vendors, hit the vendors Friday also, because a lot of them are going to sell out a lot of the, of a lot of the things that try. looking for. So, um, definitely. I mean, Friday was kind of like our feeling around day, but it should have been our biggest action day. Would you agree? Yeah, absolutely. Because it was a little crowded, but it was still pretty, pretty hop in. Everybody was all high because they had just got there, you know, and, uh, but I'm, like most of the stars were more willing to talk to us because they hadn't been

beat down by the whole weekend yet, you know? I guess that's a good way to put it. And I mean, Sunday's not a terrible day either just because it's a little bit slower i feel like uh because a lot of people have have spent so much time there on saturday and then went and partied saturday night so sunday morning i think is a good time that that just kind of makes for a better a little better experience but and the stars are a little more laid back because i think that they're on their way uh to going home although some of them you may miss them because there was a lot of times where they just weren't at their boots on sunday I don't know where they were, but they had like walked off and found a place to go sit and drink for a little while or something. I'd say probably, I mean, we didn't do the VIP party, but probably worth it to buy the tickets to it.

Because Keith David, that's another place that I met that guy because I ran into him like six times that night. Right. And he was walking right out the VIP party. And tickets aren't that expensive. It's like 15 bucks or something. Right. Okay. So I think some pretty good advice.

But at the horror returns, we never rest on our laurels from one week to the next, do we guys? We don't know. So by the time you hear this show, you'll be a couple of days away from Houston Comic Palooza. And we will also be in attendance there. We're going to be part of the podcast invite. program or whatever you'd like to call it. There's going to be a number of podcasts that are going to be recording there. And we have the fortunate time slot of the very last Saturday time slots.

So if you're going to be in the Houston area, folks, we will be there. We'd love to meet you. We're going to be doing some giveaways, hopefully doing some horror trivia, give you a chance to win some pretty cool horror return shirts and stuff like that. And we'd love to meet each and every one of you that can make it. So Comic Pleoises is going to be May 12th through 14th at the, the George R. Brown Convention Center in Houston, Texas. The day that we're going to be there for sure is going to be the 13th, which is not Friday the 13th, but Saturday. And we will be recording live

there from 6 to 7 p.m. So come on by and see us. We are going to be in booth number 3-319, which recording a bitchies. That's right. If I'm looking at the map here, we're going to be literally in the dead center of the Comic Palooza vendor and guest grounds. So we're going to have a hell of good spot. Like the Jeffsons. We're moving

on up. Well, we hope to see as many people as possible and we'll have a special show for that as well. But in the meantime, we will still be bringing our regular shows. We are going to be recording, I think, two shows

Friday night. Is that right, Brian? I believe so So I think the first show is going to be We're finally going to talk about Guardians of the Galaxy 2 And I believe we're covering Guys Howard the duck I didn't want to say it

I don't know if you guys seen Guardians yet But I have not I can't wait to talk about it I cannot wait to talk about it I can't wait to talk about it either I saw a bootleg ass copy And I'm like oh man I really want to go see it in the theater

I'm not going to give my review or spoilers away or anything, but I recommend you go see it in the theater. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Okay, this is probably one we should see in 3D, yeah? I don't do 3D, but yeah, I think you should. I think after my viewing, I kind of was thinking I probably should have watched it in 3D. Yeah, well, I mean, of course there's two things, two things, we never do here at the horror returns.

One is talk politics, although Richard Brake did a little, but the other is we don't do bootlegs. Philip, what are you talking about, man? I'm still going to go see the movie. I just wanted to see the movie. All right, fair enough. Before it came out, man. All right, so that's the wrap up.

We're going to now bring you guys the 30-minute-plus interview with the legendary Dee Wallace, and after that, you can just pretend we're hearing us say until the horror returns again, good night. Fair enough. Fair enough.

Awesome. Cool. Thanks everybody for listening. This is Richard Brake, who plays Doomhead, and you're listening to the horror returns. Stay tuned. So now on the horror returns,

we have a very special interview with the one and only, D. Wallace. Although D. may be most recognizable for roles such as Lynn Wood in the Hills Have Eyes, Donna Trenton and Coojo, and of course, who could forget Elliot's mom in E.T. You may be surprised how many projects she has going on at any given time. Dee has several films in varying stages of production and is the author of several books. She even has time to run a radio talk show and an ongoing program called Conscious

Creation. Dee, thanks for joining us today. It's, you know, it's not every day we get to speak with an actual icon. Oh, aren't you sweet? Happy to be here, guys. Well, we appreciate your time. So, Dee, what are your earliest memories of what inspired you to get into acting as a line of work? I mean, like, who really kind of inspired you or what inspired you to go down that path? Oh, my mother, for sure.

She was a secretary, but in her spare time, she would perform in community. plays and write and direct the religious plays at our church. And I remember when I was about eight years old, sitting in the sanctuary packed to the gills. People had come from four different states to see my mother perform what we now would call a monologue, but they called them readings, dramatic readings on the crucifixion. and people everywhere around me were bawling and I remember sitting there and thinking I want to do this. I want to move people like my mommy.

And that was really, yeah, I mean, you know, she, we were very poor and my mom was so creative and my dad. So they bartered what they could services from them to get me elocution lessons and modeling lessons. So at a very, very early age, I was out modeling and doing some commercials and, you know, locally in Kansas City. So I not only was born with a bug, but I chose a family that really wanted to encourage. that. And yeah, I've just kind of followed it. I really thought originally I was going to be a dancer, but I just, I'm kind of built like a gymnast, and I wanted to be a ballet dancer. I was solo with a couple of companies, small companies in Kansas City. But ultimately, I was destined to be an actress, so here I am. Well, since you brought up the ballet background, I wanted to ask you,

Have you had an opportunity to see Aronovsky's film The Black Swan? Oh, yes. So would you... Fabulous. Would you say that's a fairly accurate portrayal of how brutal the industry can be? You know, I think life can be brutal if you have the perspective on it. And if you don't love yourself enough to, you know, stand up for yourself. and she was a pretty good example of what I do in my healing work, actually.

She just didn't take care of herself. She didn't honor herself. She didn't love herself. And when we treat ourselves that way, then any negative energy can get in and mess with us. Well, you know, you've always had that all-American girl-next-door quality, I think, from the first first, first. I know.

First roles we've seen you in. Don't you think it kind of seems to be a quality of all the best scream queens? I mean, why do you think that is? Why do you think that that's the case? Well, because if you're a scream queen, you have to be in jeopardy. You know, something's got to make you scream. And you've got to be running away from something or into something or visualizing something that you're scared to death of. And that takes vulnerability.

that takes an actor, male or female, that can cross over and trust themselves enough to go to that place where, you know, I mean, I actually believe there were were werewolves in the halting. That's my job as an actor. I actually believe that the one dog of Cujo that was played by 13 different dogs all trained to go after toys was actually, a rabid monster coming at me as soon as they said action. That's my job. And, you know, I'm pretty proud, really, to own the title of Scream Queen because it takes a lot, takes a lot of emotional endurance, and it takes a lot of trust to tap into all those dark places inside yourself

and then go home and be balanced and have dinner with your family. Yeah, you've got to pull the audience into it, and you probably do that better than most. Well, thank you. I mean, if I don't, I'm not doing my job for sure. Philip, I think you had some questions about some projects that she's worked on that you were really interested in, right? Yeah, it looks like you've worked with Rob Zom,

in quite a few films. Ironically, 31 wasn't one of them, which kind of put you in the minority and the guest list of the Texas Primera Weekend. What was it like to work with him? Was he kind of a scary guy, or was he really nice? Oh, no, he's so sweet. He's sweet and, yeah, and quiet and available

and loves actors, and we love him. Yeah, he's just incredibly creative. and I remember when we were doing Halloween and we were sitting there talking and I said, so Rob, what's your favorite film? And he went, Little Miss Sunshine. And I said, don't tell anybody. Don't tell anybody.

It'll wreck your image, dude. But, you know, he and Sherry are just a beautiful couple. They love each other to death. She brings him his vitamins and his health food shake. every morning and they're just they're cool you know

they're just cool and creative and and not egotistical at all and just really great to work with that's fun

what who would be I know you've worked for you know a variety of different directors and actors and actors and everything but from you know

Spielberg to to Rob Zombie to some some some little horror movie actors and stuff. Who is your favorite director to work for? You know, I get asked that all the time, and I seriously cannot answer it.

Because I've had too many greats, and I've loved them all for different reasons, you know? Yeah. But I can tell you the one thing that all the great directors have in common that I've worked with is that, they trust. They trust their actors and their egos are in check and they want you to bring in your ideas. They want you to create with them, you know, in a collaborative form. It's a lot of the, you know, I do some smaller films because I like to help young filmmakers if I think they have some talent

to get started. And I find that a lot of times, you know, they want to micromanage you so much because they don't understand that when everybody brings their ideas, the writer, the cinematographer, the actors, and of course their vision, you know, that's when you get the magic. Almost every major director that I've worked with. has seen something that's going on with me or something that's happening with the character and added a scene or linked in the scene or found a way to expand a story point because of what was happening to me and because they saw the value in it. And you can't be to these are the shots and that's what I'm going to do and that's the only way I'm going to shoot it,

and this is exactly what they have to say in the dialogue. And you can't be too rigid like that and expect that amazing magic to happen. Are there any, like, projects that really stand out or that you're most proud of, or maybe you've had the most fun doing? Well, not the most fun doing, but Kujo is my favorite film.

I had a hundred and fifty-town Rotweiler at home, and he was great. And my wife hated him at first until she got to know him. But because of that movie, that scarred her so bad. Well, you tell her that all those dogs were trained to go after toys. And on action, the director, Louis Teague, and the trainer would go dig, dig for that toy. and so they would start barking and clawing and digging, but it was all a game to them, so we had to tie their tails down with fishwire.

So you couldn't see them wag there. So maybe that will, and let me tell you, the dogs were much better taking care of than I was. Their trainers even slept in the barn with them, and there were so many of them because we didn't want to overwork them. Oh, that makes sense.

Hey, Dee, I know we're a horror podcast, but I've got to bring this up, okay? I know you're going to hate hearing this question, but it's an E.T. question. Can we go with it? Well, I'll let you know after you flip an ass me. Well, let me tell you a little story first. When my oldest daughter was about two years old, she was really, really sick and bad and just miserable. And my wife brought her home a stuffed E.T. And it was like almost like a heat. healing amulet. You know, it brightened her up right away. And I remember she got, she got better almost immediately. I mean, you do realize what that film means to so many people, right? I absolutely do. I have miraculous stories like that. One mom came to my table crying.

Her son was autistic. She had never heard him speak a word. And when she took him to see the re-release of ET on the way home, he started saying every line ET said. Oh, my God. Now, that's a miracle. No kidding. That film transcends something. And it hits us in our hearts, and it reminds us of what the truth is. And the truth is, if you keep your heart open, right, and you know what you want,

you can always get back home to who you are. And it's a message that, you know, Peter Pan, has. It's the message that Wizard of Oz has. You had the power all along Dorothy. You know, those films that last forever in our hearts reach our hearts

because the statement that they're making is a truthful statement. Are there any other roles outside the horror genre that have been particularly special to you? Like your more poignant memories of roles that have had a real effect on you as a person, you know,

outside the genre? Well, of course, E.T. I mean, that goes without saying. And I have a beautiful film on the festival circuit right now that's winning all kinds of awards called Charlie's Gift. And it's a beautiful story. They aged me to 80 years old. And it's a beautiful story about this woman on her first airplane flight. Her husband just died a couple of months earlier.

and she gets into telling the story of this beloved man that she's been with for so long. And it's just, it's an absolutely perfect piece. It's warm and snugly and just absolutely perfect, this little piece. And, you know, another thing that stands in, out for me is a movie the week I did call the Texas cadet murders. Oh my. Never heard of that one.

I have a five-minute scene where I have to receive the news that my daughter's just been found murdered. And it's some of the best film acting I've ever done.

Ten. Ten certainly that's a comedy. But I loved I loved Mary Lewis. I loved, that was a little diamond of a part. So, yeah, there's lots of things I've done out of the war genre, you know, that I hold kind of sacred in my heart. Well, the first role that I remember seeing you in, you know,

the big one was The Hills Have Eyes. I'm sure that was a lot of fun to film that movie. No, it was not fun to film that. No, we had to do it. drive to the Mojave Desert, which was, I think, three miles within the amount of time that they didn't have to pay you to drive there. So it was way the hell far away. Right.

All the actors stayed in one trailer, and the toilet would back up, and we were dying of the heat during the day and freezing our butts off at night. It was not a fun. No, not fun. Look, movies are a lot of work, okay? I think... It sounds like it. I mean, when you have fun is when it comes out and it's well-received and people love it and, you know.

But most movies are a lot of hard work and tiring and waiting, a lot of waiting. I think I was on the set of E.T. 3 and a half weeks at one time. before I ever walked on a set, I was ready to kill somebody. Just hanging around the trailer. And actors like a racehorse. You pick them up, and they go, oh, I'm going to run the race, going to run the race. And then you groom them, and you put the saddle on us, right?

You throw us through costumes and makeup, and we're going, I'm going to run, I'm going to act, I'm going to act, and then you sit there for three and a half weeks. You just want to kill somebody. You know? Going to makeup every day? Yeah. Yeah, I get there and going to makeup and get in a wardrobe and sit there.

I finished an entire needlepoint pillow while I was shooting E.D. Oh, no. That's tension. There's a lot of hurry up and wait. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, I mean, I think it was Jason Robards that said they don't pay me to act, they pay me to wait. There you go. That's a good

book. It's really true. You know, actors, we'd act for nothing most of the time if it's a good part. Hey, Dee, a couple of weeks, well, I guess it was about a month and a half ago we reviewed the Stefford Wives, and I had completely forgotten you were in that.

I was actually kind of surprised to see it. I don't know why. I only have like two lines. I don't know why you'd forget I was in it. Well, let me ask you this. going, start starting to move more into the modern day with our questions for you. How do you think, how would you say working in the industry has changed since those early days? Like, are there more opportunities for women? Do you see more freedom now for actors to choose the roles they actually want to play? No.

Oh, man. Yes, I think there's more roles for women because there's more roles for everybody. Mm-hmm. But then again, half of the world doesn't even know. what's on anymore. You know, I, for example, I have a series on Amazon Prime right now called Just Add Magic. You guys ever hear of it?

No, but it's about Little Witches, right? Well, no, not exactly. No. Okay. Well, there you have. It's about a magic cookbook, and it's a family show. But, I mean, you know, literally I watch the Emmys now, and I'm going,

what the hell is that show? I mean, there's just so much on there. And I think what I find the biggest change in the industry is a lack of respect for actors. I mean, I'm going in to read this afternoon for something that, you know, 15 years ago, they would have called and said, well, D. Wallace, please do this. Can we get her? But now everybody reads for everything. Right.

And, you know, the writers are the producers, and they don't really want to hear much from you on TV anyway. And, you know, it's the pay, a lot more roles to do, a lot more projects out there. The pay's a lot less. You don't get residuals. I mean, all this new media stuff, I think, just sold us down the river. Really?

Yep, I do. Wow, I wouldn't have expected that answer. Well, you're, you know, you've got 230 acting credits on IMDB, but you've also got some producer credits as well. I mean, are those, is that like a passion project? Or is, how do you call on that? You know, for example, one of the films I have coming out that's just awesome is called Red Christmas. Everybody look for it if you're a war fan because you're going to love this movie. Absolutely.

And I went to Australia to do it, and they were so appreciative of my work and my time and everything that the director, producer, writer, out of appreciation, gave me a producer credit. Oh, I didn't ask for it. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. That's cool. Which, yeah.

is the other side of see how respected you can be. But no, the last thing I would really want to do unless I'm doing something for myself or my daughter is to produce. Because I don't have a lot of tact when it comes to assholes in the business. And I don't have a lot of... That's good quality. you know, I don't have a lot of tact when somebody looks at you and goes, well, they need to take their clothes off at least three times because it'll be an easier sell in Europe when I'm doing a family film and I'm trying to talk about consciousness. You know, it's so, yeah, I produce plays and I've really enjoyed doing that. I've directed plays, really enjoyed doing that.

you know, directors in television, not so much in film, but in television now, directors stand there and wait for the producer writers to tell them what they want to do and then they come and direct us. It's crazy.

Oh, fun. Yeah. So actress would be your definitive choice if you had one. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. In the business, yeah. I mean, you know, would I

I like to direct something that I had complete control over, maybe. If I could work with really good, talented people that I could depend on. But to go into a project for a studio or anybody like Amazon or Netflix, you couldn't pay me enough, guys. That's insider information right there. That's good stuff. Yeah, I'll probably get backlash for. it, but I don't think so.

Honestly, that's my experience right now. Well, we've noticed you've certainly got a lot of, like Philip was saying, you get an awful lot of credits and a lot of things that you're, that you got planned out for the next year or two. Are there any films coming up that you can actually talk about or you can kind of let us know about, help us get excited? I can talk about Red Christmas and I can talk about Def House, Deaf House, hopefully they're going to announce distribution any day

you know it's a movie with a lot of big horror icons Kane Hauders in it said Hague myself lots and lots of horror names we watch the movies there and then and Red Christmas is a Christmas horror film it's gotten really great reviews and it also deals with social issues, believe it or not. So I'm really excited about both of those and what my fans are going to think.

And I'm going back for 10 more shows on Just Add Magic pretty soon. I'm in talks with another film that should go before I go back into Just Ed Magic. So lots of stuff going on. Well, outside of acting, what are your passions right now? I mean, are there any organizations, charities that mean a whole lot to you personally that hit close to home? Anything that you want to talk? Yeah, I always donate to animal charities. I donate to save the children and I donate to the tree people because especially in California we have so many fires and everything.

And my, you know, I have a whole healing practice. I do private sessions and help people every day all across the world. Got my radio show on Sunday mornings. And my little passion project of my teddy bear, which is based in brain science, and its sole purpose is to teach children to build brain synapses around loving themselves and thinking they're awesome. So, you know, I got a lot of balls in the air, and I love them all. And that's the way I like it. I would get so unbelievably bored if I wasn't juggling a lot of cool stuff.

Yeah, that was actually one of the things that we were going to ask you if you had a number of Stepford wives built that you had running around or something, because we couldn't figure out. I mean, between, look, you're writing, your radio show, every program that you're in, all you're acting, everything you got coming up. I mean, how in the world, it sounds tried, I know, but how in the world do you have time for it all? Seriously, there's multiple credit every year. You stay in the moment and you love what you do.

And I have a rule for myself because I teach self-love that whenever I feel like I'm getting too tired or too overwhelmed, I back off. I either put things off and postpone them or I don't take something else on. It's really, really important in this day and age when there's so much fear in our society and so much unknown. And we're kind of all living in fight or flight, guys. And you have to be aware of that. And our adrenal system is really, really taxed right now. It's really important for you to love yourself, honor yourself, and take care of yourself. Absolutely.

Well, do you have any advice for any of our listeners that are having trouble balancing all that and can't figure out how they can do everything that they hope and dream to do? Well, yeah, don't take action out of guilt ever. drop into your heart center and yes everybody knows where that is so don't go into well how do you do that just drop into your heart center and go wow does this make me happy and if it doesn't make you happy don't do it walk away and one of the best ways to get yourself balanced is to just start laughing and I have people all the time say well I can't laugh if there's nothing to laugh about, well, sure you can.

Actors do it all the time. You just have to choose to. And I mean, just start laughing just for no reason. Because your brain can't hold on to, I feel crappy while you're laughing. It's not possible. Doesn't happen. That's fair. You're changing the way my whole outlook is on life right now, I'm telling you.

Well, good. Because, you know, life's too long, guys. So why not enjoy it and have fun and love who we are while we're on the journey and embodiment? Life is too long to live it any other way. Life is too long. I love it. I've never heard it put that way, but that adds a whole new dimension to the whole way people think about it, doesn't it? Truly.

I don't want to spend 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 years feeling shitty. What's the point? What's the point? You know? You know what, Dee, I know that with your ballet background and everything, I know you stay physically active. I do. I take care of myself because I love who I am. Yep.

You know, and we're all taught not to love ourselves. That that's somehow God's not going to like us if we like us. You know, work harder than we should. Don't acknowledge the greatness of who we are and what we've accomplished and what we can accomplish. You know, all those stories and teachings that have been passed down for so long, you know, guys, they just didn't get it right, but you can. We can all choose a different way right now, but you've got to go, you know, I love them anyway, and that ain't working for me anymore. Motivational speaking, I like it. What about a conscious creation?

What's that all about? What can you tell us about it? Well, just look at the name, conscious creation. We're creating every day of our lives. We start creating when we get up and when we start thinking and we create a breakfast and we create a walk or a run if we do that. we create our thoughts, but usually not consciously. So that I'm just going to think the same thought I've been thinking for the last 20 years

and expect my life to change. I'm here to tell you it, it ain't going to happen. You know, you have to be, if you want money and you want to make more money, you better be conscious of what you think about money. because the thoughts that you think all the time are literally self-communicating, right? So if you want more money, you do everything you can to love money, which is, of course, what we're not taught to do. Right. But, you know, when I go speak, I throw a bunch of money on the floor and I go, now, I know that money is the root of all,

and, you know, I name off five or six different beliefs. And I go, so I want you to watch that money. Watch all the bad shit it does in the next two hours while I'm talking. So you keep your eyes on that money because the money's bad. I mean, you know, you can get people to laugh at it. You can get them to see how absurd it is that money has any kind of energy itself as far as a thinking process goes. And it's what we do with the money. right?

Right. So that's what I mean by start living consciously. Look at your old stories that aren't working for you anymore. Look at your thought patterns that are probably keeping you focused on what you don't want instead of what you do want, right? Live consciously. How am I feeling right now? You know, how am I feeling right now? My Baptist preacher came out there for a minute, sorry.

That was great. Well, we really, I mean, we want to thank you for coming on the show. We've had you a little longer than we said we would. I hope that's okay with you. Is there anything else? Well, you know, I create my own life, and I chose to stay here with you. So there you go. I would like to invite everybody to come visit my website at IAM.

I am D.Wallis.com. And my radio show connection is on there. There's a lot of free offerings on there about conscious creation. My little teddy bears on there. If you want to give your child a gift that's going to last for the rest of their lives, go get one of these little teddy bears. You can read all about it online. And the radio is Sunday mornings at...

9 a.m. Pacific time. 9 a.m. Pacific time, absolutely. Now, this weekend, I'll be at Texas Frightmares, and I want to invite everybody to come down and see me. I have amazing, amazing pictures, beautiful art on my table, posters, handmade figurines of the werewolves and Coojo and critters, and I've got great hugs, too. some t-shirts.

I mean, if you've never been to Texas Frightmares, guys, you've got to come because it is one of the most unbelievable shows in the world. I've done them all. Yeah, my sister's birthdays this weekend. I'm going to find a present for her there probably from your table. You got it, baby. I will line it with love and say happy birthday.

Yeah, we've never been, Dee. We're Texas Frightmare Virgins, but you've been before, huh? Oh, yes. Oh, my God. You'll be unbelievably happy that you came. There's nothing to disappoint you in this convention. There's something for everybody.

Almost as excited about this as I was about this interview. Oh, you're so sweet. Well, I'll see you there, boys, okay? Absolutely. Yeah, we'll see you there. And I've got a feed. your name's going to come up on our show again in about two weeks because we're going to do a greatest squeam queens episode oh so i'm sure we're going to i'll be i'll be in your consciousness

again there absolutely and we i mean we really can't thank you enough for joining us we do appreciate it you bet guys you bet hey you're doing what you love and that's what i that's what i teach so good for you