The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #10: Deep Cover (1992)
Episode Date: March 17, 2021Tonights the night Brian and Nez get in some s**t, deep cover on the incognito tip. This episode the guys go undercover in the city of angels to bring down the drug lords in 1992's DEEP COVER. List...en and follow Brian and Nez's other show The Action Returns. Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776 Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns
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everybody welcome back to another episode of
THR presents stream fiends
I got the right show this time
I'm your host Brian
and you know who's with me
my brother Nez what's up man
yo tonight's the night we get in some shit
deep cover on the incognito tip
oh man this movie's fucking
hell of fresh man
I remember the first time
we went and seen it
one of my buddies he worked
out of driving. Like, oh, man, you gotta go see this
movie, so we went down, man, we watched it.
Oh, I was like, fuck, man, that shit was hell of good.
This is like early,
early, um,
I think he changed his name to Lawrence
by then, because he wasn't
Larry Fishburn, like you, or was
he Larry Fishburn and this? I mean, I
remember.
He might have been,
but, no, I know he was Larry Fishburn.
Dream movies. Yeah.
And, uh, but,
um,
I mean, he's done so many good films, as well as Jeff Goldblum, but I'd have to say this is probably my favorite film that both of them have done.
I mean, especially Jeff Goldblum.
We've seen him be the comedic role or a serious role, and then he's all over the place.
But he was a little ruthless in this one.
I thought this movie was awesome.
When did you first see this?
Well, if nobody's really figured it out, you.
Yeah, we're talking about deep cover.
Do what you want to.
Boys in the hoods, Larry Fishburn has a new job.
You got really lucky today.
He's got to think like a criminal.
It's not 10 kilos we want with 120.
I don't trust you.
Act.
Like a dealer.
Where are you moving this?
Do Macy's turn gimbals?
And be the best cop on these streets.
Don't fly.
Featuring new music by Dr. Dre.
Opens Wednesday at a theater near you.
Let me, let me go through the quick little synopsis.
As you know, we usually do.
Got to go, got to go to the Googles first.
David Jason is the biggest drug dealer in Los Angeles.
Is he?
Russell, Russell Stevens is an undercover cop who wants to bring him down, posing as a dealer.
Stevens begins to earn his trust of the LA drug underworld.
eventually making his way to Jason himself.
But along the way, he has to take his cover to depths he never thought he would have to see,
including selling drugs and going to great lengths to eliminate potential competitors for Jason's drug cartel.
It wasn't his drug cartel.
Yeah.
Let's see, RMDB.
Yep, short and sweet.
A uniform cop is recruited by a drug dealer.
enforcement agent to infiltrate a drug smuggling ring looking to expand the operation.
And let's see.
This came out in 1992.
Yep.
He was listed as Larry Fishburn, Jeff Goldblum, Charles Martin Smith, directed by the legendary
Bill Duke.
And the first time I seen this, I was, oh gosh, I was young.
But it wasn't because of the movie.
one of one of my my boys uh like his his older brother was telling us about this this this new rapper
coming out named snoop doggie dog and he was on this song with dr dr dr day and he played
this a song and we were like you know what what is this off of and then he was telling us
it's a movie called deep cover and that's how i got introduced to the movie and i love this
movie um i think more so for uh jeff goldblum because of
where his characters kind of started and where it progressed at the end,
it was a big switch from how he was acting in the beginning to the end.
And Larry Fishburn, Lawrence Fishburn, I liked his character,
but there was a couple questionable moments.
Why were you acting like that?
But, yeah, there was a, there was some good action in here.
There's a lot of quotable lines.
and overall good movie, man.
Yeah, I thought everybody in it was good.
I mean, I've seen this multiple times,
but watching it this time, as a young guy growing up watching just like TV,
mainly what was it, good time, getting on a good time,
Sanford and Son, Guzman, Renee,
I can't even pronounce his
Azza. I think that's how you say his last name.
Oh, no, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm confusing him with someone else.
There's a guy. He was in Sanford, his son. He was
this on IMDB. It's not in any kind of
order. He was the main
drug dealer guy that Jeff Goldblum was dealing with before.
Oh, uh, Felix Barbosa.
Yeah, Gregory Sierra.
Um, I mean, seeing him and, and earlier roles, but then watching this as he popped up into it, I just thought it was awesome.
Also, uh, Sydney Lysik, uh, he's gopher, uh, for those of you, uh, alligator fans.
He was the guy that was, uh, putting the, bringing in the dogs to the, to the scientists people so they can do tests on them.
Plus he's been in.
Oh, yeah.
He was in a shit ton of movies, but.
Um,
Barbosa,
I didn't,
mainly because I seen him in a lot of comedic roles,
uh,
the first time watching this.
And even this time,
I was like,
I didn't,
I wasn't buying him as this rough and tough,
uh,
drug dealer.
And,
yes,
especially that one scene when they're doing the,
the hand slap game.
Yeah.
I'm like,
is he hurting you that bad?
Come on.
Jeff Goldblum,
you're,
you're a pretty fucking big guy.
Yeah.
And especially Jeff Goldblum.
Goldblum as David Jason.
He was,
was he a lawyer?
What was he?
I mean,
because he would seem like he was all over the place with his business.
Yeah,
he was a lawyer.
I think,
yeah,
I think he was a lawyer by day.
And that was like basically his cover.
And he was,
uh,
handling his business at night.
Yeah.
I mean,
because what this film was,
I mean,
I loved,
uh,
the,
the,
the,
whole thing on Lawrence Fishburn's character.
He was Russell Stevens.
And I also played John Hull once he went to deep cover.
Because he grew up with a drug addict mom and a drug addict dad.
And he was just out there stick up kid and all this.
And seeing his dad just do drugs as well as his mom growing up.
and watching his dad be murdered for robbing a liquor store.
I mean, this was all right in the very beginning.
And while he's narrating the story saying that he just because of what he grew up with
and what he had seen, this is the type of stuff that he was just not going to be a part of.
So he wanted to do good for his community and then he became a police officer.
So, but he's approached by a DEA special agent, Gerald Carver.
And just basically telling him that, look, we need you to go undercover and try to just stop this little drug ring that was going on in L.A.
I mean, those drug ring guys made it seem like there were small time.
except for the the main guy that comes in later on.
But, I mean, I mean, that scene was kind of rough.
I mean, when they had the interviews to find.
Oh, yeah.
What's the difference between a black man and inward?
I won't say it, but you guys know what he means.
Pinky was one of those guys.
one of the
he didn't know
which is clearly the wrong answer
I like that other guy
the one big officer he just stood up
and grabbed him
and pulled him
he's like who the fuck you think you're
talking to
um but
that guy he is a director
he also directed
or he directed um
the classic film
uh trick trick or treat
not trick our treat
trick or treat the one with the
they say it's a heavy metal horror film
come on it's more like just of a hard rock film
but it's an awesome film for those who have seen it
but he directed that one plus he was also
an American graffiti
and Starman
and a bunch of other things
what the hell is his name
you know I'm talking about
um
damn it
there's like no pictures for anybody
yeah Charles Martin Smith he's he was the the DEA agent guy basically trying to find an officer to go undercover to stop this drug deal so
Lawrence Fishburn because when he asked him that question he said inward would be the one to answer that question
and he was like, all right, cool.
So he picks him to be a part of this.
So he sends him to L.A.
To just try to get into the underground of how all the drug dealers are.
There was even a young cane from Minister Society.
He was one of the street kids.
Yeah, I see.
I seen him.
Yeah, a couple scenes.
No words.
No, he just had him in the background.
Okay.
I mean, this movie, I mean, I've seen this.
I mean, in real life dealing with the drugs and everything.
The part that gets me every time I watch this, or even this last watch,
was the neighbor that Lawrence Fishburn had to move into this little rundown hood apartment.
And his neighbor was this, I think she was poor.
Puerto Rican and she was just a drug addict.
She just wanted to me.
This is kind of right into the,
into the crack era.
And she was just, I need,
she just needed drugs.
She needed crack.
She was willing to sell her son for like $2,000 or something like that.
Yeah,
I think her name was Belinda.
Yeah.
I mean, that shit is fucking,
oh, man, I'm,
I didn't know anybody that,
that,
that was that scandalous, but I had seen it.
And I just, I don't like it when, when I see it.
So that that part was just like, oh, man.
I mean, I, I just don't like it.
Because I see, I see my friend's mom doing that.
And she was just like embarrassed by her mom being a drug addict.
And I was like, oh, man.
I mean, it was just, I mean, this stuff was all around us.
And I mean, I'm like Lawrence Fishburn's character in this.
I mean, I saw it so much.
It made me not want to do it.
I don't, I don't see the enjoyment in it or any.
I mean, I got high as fuck with everybody.
Yeah, but now it was just weed.
But I didn't mess with all the hard-ass drugs that were out there and that are still out there.
I just, I just didn't mess with that.
A lot of my friends were out there selling and doing it as well.
But I just, I'm good.
I'm going to go this direction and just stick with weed and all that and get my drink on.
And never messed with all that.
So watching these films, especially these films that were made around this time,
a lot like this and New Jack City, that dealing with the whole crack era as well.
I'm going to have to do that on something at some point.
but that that type of stuff in this film
I mean because it like like he's going deep cover
to bring down this drug these drug lor drug kingpins or whatever
that are going on in L.A.
So I loved all that how he just had to
to get into that mindset.
I mean it was good for him.
I mean, thinking about it,
he's seen it growing up.
So he knew he knew the rules.
knew the game.
So I think that would that helped him a lot to go in to do it.
But you could see that he was struggling,
uh,
throughout the film of,
I,
I,
I became a police officer to,
to stop this type of stuff.
Now look at me.
Here I am out here.
Selling drugs to,
to,
to my own people,
people that look like me.
So I,
I mean,
that,
that must have been rough and tough.
But I mean,
to be a police officer,
period.
I mean,
that takes a lot.
But to be undercover agent like this guy was to go really undercover to just get out there into the shit and everything to deal with all this.
I mean, I think it was just it takes a different kind of person to not care to do it.
Yeah, I think it's like for people that go undercover, I think it's like mandatory.
They have to go see like a psychiatrist after psychologist or I don't know the difference.
between either one, but I think they have to go seek some kind of counseling after because they get so far deep into it.
Like they forget who they really are.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of movies like this.
I mean, did you see that movie, Narc?
With Jason Patrick and Buster Arms.
The fuck's his name from Goodfellas.
Henry.
Ray Leota.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
That too, man.
I mean, they, you go so far into this, I mean, to where you got to do the drugs.
I mean, if you listen to this song, I mean, deep cover by Dre and Snoop, I mean, they tell,
in the right in the beginning of the song, man, they're smoking weed.
And he's like, here, man, hit this.
And he's like, no, man, I can't even fuck with it.
And he's like, man, I'll be dealing with you for three fucking months.
You ain't ever hit the pipe in front of me yet.
And he's what you're saying.
I think you, 50.
5.0.
5.0 ain't no motherfucking cop.
we hit this shit then
that ill-ass beat kicks in
I mean out of everything Dre and Snoop
have done to me
this is the definitive
Dre and Snoop it's the very first
track they've ever done together from
from my knowledge I could be wrong
don't quote me on it but
that song it the beat is just
fucking smooth as fucking it's ill
and it's simple
they didn't need to pile all kinds of shit
on top of it I know what's supposed to be talking about the movie
but that song is stuck in my head
they didn't pile so much junk onto the today's i mean if you listen today's hip hop to me in my opinion
today's hip hop is garbage but anyway um it's just it was awesome and just uh the smooth-ass
lyrics smooth-ass lyrics of snoop i mean it was just fucking it made sense if you guys don't know
you should have heard this song by now but if you don't read the lyrics to what they're saying
in the song and it goes right along with this film so i mean i don't even know if they even saw the
before they did the
before they did the track
but I mean it went it went right along with it
I mean it was just made the whole soundtrack
for this album or for this
film was good
but um once
uh John Hull
or uh Russell Stevens
Lawrence Fishburn
Larry Fishburn
once he once he gets into it
I mean he like really dives into it
it's funny to watch these old 90s movies
because of the
the style of the clothing.
I said it on the last night.
I'm still wearing the same shit I wore one in the 80s and 90s,
but I was never a flashy dresser,
and I just,
it just wasn't me.
But looking at the hairstyles,
as well as all the,
all the clothing and the shoes and everything,
everybody's got to look fitted in this.
What was the one dude?
I see he,
was a
the rival
a
ivy
that fool
yeah
always quoting
Arnold
I was like
I'll be Bach
you've seen that movie
you can run in
out of your local
video store
I'll be bark
I was like
what the hell
yeah he may be laugh
but
he just went a little
overboard
I mean
but that
I mean that
that character is real
I mean that
was how my buddy's uncle was exactly like that big and buff hella chains talked hell of shit
never ever saw him get into any scraps or anything but i think he would just his look was
intimidating so everyone left him alone but i got i was talking shit all the way till he died yeah he did
his last words was you fucking bitch because i mean even that scene because when he uh that
the rival drug dealer once you step into someone's territory i mean he he was no he was straight up
about it man he blasted um one of uh john holes uh one of one of one of his girls one that was out
there uh selling for him and he was trying to talk and that fool just rolled right up and
she blew her blow her brains out and then his chick was down for him too the the little blonde chick
Yeah, she was.
And she was the driver.
She burned out.
I don't even know what kind of car that was.
I think it was a little convertible Mustang or something.
But when he had to come across him again, because that was kind of their main rival.
I mean, there wasn't a bunch of different drug dealers in this.
If there were, they were just all little small-time guys.
But he was trying to bring down the big bosses.
because in this story there's two there was um what the hell was that guy's name a barboso
what he was the was he the main one or was he the no he was the first one he was then they had
then they had to get to Anton Gallegos and uh and then the the last guy was uh
Guzman was he the main one I think so all right the senator or whatever he was
He has some kind of political ties.
Yeah.
Was he the one they were saying they wanted him to run for president?
Yeah, that guy, I think.
Yeah, I mean, there was all kinds of dirt in this.
But, I mean, I know some people don't think this happens or it's true, but this movie was all too true.
I mean, politicians and lawyers and dirty cops.
I mean, everybody was in this.
And it was all dealing with drugs.
I mean, who was it?
Nino Brown said it best in New Jack City.
He was like, there ain't nobody's making machine guns or anything in our neighborhoods.
And there ain't no poppy fields in the hood.
And he goes, all this stuff is brought in from other countries.
And small-time dealers ain't the ones bringing them in.
You get to all these big guys and all these people in the high-ups.
positions and these big businessmen are the ones that are bringing it all in.
I mean, some people may not think so, but I mean, I mean, that shit is all too real.
I mean, there's a lot of cover up going on in this country.
And I'm sure as well as in other countries, but, um, excuse me, uh, but yeah, he was trying
to just bring everyone down and, and as he's going along dealing with all these little
shy-sty-ass fools.
What was the one dude's name?
Uh, he was.
he was no uh eddie yeah he was in a ton of movies as well yeah he's i don't know how to put i put this
delicately he's always like the whitest act in black man in the movie
uh that's just his role he always plays he kind of plays that he plays a real good uh roger
guinevere smith yeah i think that's how you say his name but yeah eddie
Fast talking, Eddie, you knew the minute you were introduced to this character that he was going to die.
Well, he was, he was getting high on, on his own supply.
And it was, it was just, it was getting the best of him.
Oh, with the, with the one white chick and the, yeah, he calls this do being queen.
Because when, um, uh, John had to go get him, he was like in that crack house.
I was like, man.
I mean, that's how far.
I mean, he's supposed to be selling it for, for, um,
keep wanting to say Barbosa.
Was that his name?
Yes.
I think I got it.
It's Barbosa,
Guzman,
and I think Gallegos was the last one.
All right.
So,
um,
okay,
he was supposed to.
But I think,
I think he,
I think Eddie worked for,
uh,
Jeff Goldblum,
though.
Oh,
that's right.
Okay.
Jeff Gold.
Yeah,
he,
Eddie worked for Jeff Goldblum and Joe,
get Jeff Goldblum.
Goldblum worked for Barbosa.
Okay.
David Jason was Jeff Goldblum.
Okay.
Yeah, so that for Eddie, man, he was just, I loved him best.
I can't remember his name and do the right thing.
He was a guy that had that real stuttering problem.
But he's been in a ton of films.
And yeah, I understand.
He's the, my friend, he, go, man, that's that or.
dude so those you don't know that term look it up but um but yeah I mean but he's a good
actor man I mean everything I've seen him in he's always done good so I mean he does
he does these I don't want to say he's typecasted but it seems he's always
falling into these little shady character roles but yeah because they have to deal with
him because like I said he's getting high and not really I mean he's selling it but he's
doing more than he's selling
because he always end up
owning these guys and they had to
basically
did they just beat the hell out of him or did they kill
him because Barbosa started beating
his ass with that pool cue
I think he beat him to death
and I think he was going to
continue to beat him until Gofer
had told him to stop
another question was
was Gofer just Barbosa's
little sidekick
or was that like his
his lover. I don't know because I always kind of had that feeling but then they get go
for a stripper for his birthday dinner. So I was confused but I don't know. Maybe
gopher likes a little bit of everything. But I also kind of felt like he had a hand in the business
because he because later on he gives uh um David and uh John some
information that that he knew about how much was how much money was really owed and so he has some
kind of hand in the business yeah i mean i think uh he had to i mean i can't i know exactly what
uh his part in the whole uh organization of barbosa's crew because barbosa was the leader and then
seemed like gopher was a little sidekick and then he had all his little hitman uh surrounding
them which none of them did anything really no they would just
standing around.
So
David,
Jeff Goldblum,
he was just
starting to get greedy
with that.
John Hull,
Lawrence Fishburn,
he was just
trying to get
through all these
little small-time
guys to get
to the main dude,
which was,
uh,
wasn't Guzman.
Who was the main dude?
Gallegos.
Okay.
They,
he was just trying to get to him.
Because Gallegos was the one
that was the main supplier
of everything
and Jason
David Jason Jeff Goldblum
he was trying to
come up with this new
where he did they he came up
with a new synthetic
drug thing
because I guess
they were breaking it down
they say when you sniff coke
and everything I've never tried it
but it
it said it did this to you
it did that got you high
and it just
made you like worthless.
He goes, but this new synthetic
drug that they were making, they were adding
something to the Coke
to make it to where you can
continue to function
better. He goes, yeah, man, you can snort this at
work and still be good and keep
on working. So
David was trying to get that
that money and get that connection
with the head
drug lord.
Were they from Columbia or
where were they from? I think so.
But yeah, they weren't really down with the synthetic Coke.
No, they just wanted the real stuff.
I think that guy created the Coke for class of 1999, what they was using.
Oh, fuck.
What did they call that?
I don't even know.
Something stupid.
You know, when it's one of those futuristic gang-type movies, there's always a drug, just like Robocop 2 was like nuke.
And that stuff in D.
dread um oh uh what the fuck was it called i just remember slowed everything down yeah which i don't know
that didn't seem fun speaking to that did you uh did you get the steel book yeah i got i i preordered it
but i got to pick it out because they weren't delivering so but yeah i got i got a copy all the
pre-orders were done in my area i just had to order it they're going to send it to me though so
hopefully
they told me I don't pick
that shit
I don't know
they said all the pre-orders sold out
and they're uh
I don't know wherever they're coming from
they're gonna send me once on okay good
as long as I have it
I've been better not crushed
but so yeah
yeah that was that's what David
and those guys are trying he was trying to
make uh his millions
with more millions
billions with his synthetic shit
but uh everyone else was like
now they they weren't having it
but so
they so David and and John were trying to be the ones to take out all the competition to
get to the main drug dealer to help to basically try to talk him into like here
we'll supply you all this we'll give you this much money and you supplies was the
coke and we're going to add it and then we're going to make more money so that that was
the whole plan that David wanted and John's his thing was just to to to bring
bring down the drug dealers.
But John had to keep checking in with the DEA agent guide.
Carver.
To report to him on everything.
Because in the beginning,
when he was small time,
they were giving him money.
And he was just buying like this little nickel and dime shit.
And slinging all that.
And there was like,
well, you need to bring in big money.
Because right now you're not getting anywhere with this little bullshit.
did that you're doing so that's when he started looking around and trying to see who these main
players were yeah which about this time you kind of start wondering about carver because there was a lot
of stuff he knew before john told him and he would just say oh i know i'm god i know everything
yeah i mean you just knew he was dirty i mean because of i mean the stuff that he was saying
uh to john and everything so he was like
like all right man whatever but he was still John was still out to trying to try to do it
mainly trying to get uh in with the with the main guys to to get up to the top so that's
why because when he joined up because um he didn't even David didn't even want him at first
because when Eddie brought him to him to like yeah man this guy's going to help us sell and
David just looked at he's a cop and they were like nah I mean but he was straight up about it
so but then he kind of slowly started to trust him and he started helping out with all that and
other than taking out uh eddie because i mean he did tell them like man this guy is just
crackhead so i mean we should get rid of him and then uh he owed him all kinds of money
because that's when um what's his face barbosa was was was telling him like well you owe me some
money and uh i know you don't have it so that's when he that's when he that's when he that's
he fucking just beat the shit out of him and killed him.
I like how Eddie tried to stab him with a fork real quick.
Yeah, he did.
I mean, he was scared.
And then apologize after him.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I don't know.
I mean, you're going to try to kill someone.
No stab him in his shoulder.
When he was stab him in the head or the eyes or something.
So Eddie was out of the way.
John was starting to move up.
But it still seemed like nobody was, was trusting him.
Because Barbosa's like, all right, that's, that's David good guy.
So let's let them deal with it.
Because he was slowly trying to get around.
And then they were telling him, they were telling him, oh, there was, what's his name?
Clarence Williams III, Taft.
He was just, I assume just a narcotics officer.
And he was trying to also bring down all the drug dealers.
And the thing that was weird about that, which always never really made sense to me,
they never tried to hide the cops.
They were always out in the open watching them.
Yeah.
Because there was that one scene when John was divvying up or, no, he wasn't dealing.
He was just talking to all his sellers.
And then he kind of got in his car and he looked over and he saw Taft and his other officers hanging out.
And he just kind of gave him the peace on and then drove off.
So it's like they knew the cops were on them.
but just didn't,
I don't know why they never really tried to hide.
They were always out in the open
because he does come up to him and have a conversation with him.
To,
to,
yeah,
he was,
he was trying to tell him to,
to stop it,
wasn't he?
Yeah,
he was,
trying to,
basically what John really believed in,
outside of his undercover work,
he was,
he was basically trying to,
you know,
explain that.
And he was also,
you know,
he's religious.
man preaching to him, gave him a little mini Bible and stuff like that.
So, but once John was getting into it, and he started realizing that Barbosa just wasn't,
wasn't having it with them.
So I think that's when David realized that they, okay, they're not going to go along with us.
So I think we need to just stop them because they were trying to,
they were doing a, a buy and they found out that Barbosa was working with the cops.
And he was wired for sound and everything.
So they all just took off because all the cops and everybody was there.
And then they all went chasing after him.
This part always makes me laugh.
What, Larry Fishburn's scream?
that.
And they,
uh,
uh,
the,
uh,
David grabs Barbosa and throws him in the limo and like this fucking you motherfucker
you'd set us up and he starts shooting him in the leg and trying to get him to just jump out of a limo.
And, uh,
he won't and all that.
So,
but he ends up shooting him a couple of times like in the hand and in, in,
in the knees and then he throws them out.
But he,
he falls out and rules.
But the.
cops are like hot on their ass and they come around the corner and they don't or they're in a tunnel
and I don't know how could how did they not see him and they blasted into him and he goes flying
up it but um I don't even think they stopped no they didn't they just know they they they they I think
that one after they hit him and slammed on the brakes and the other one slammed in behind it and
those two cop cars crashed but uh John and David and that and that other chick just kept a
hauling ass and Jeff Goldblum.
David, oh, you motherfucker.
It's, it didn't sound
That is my favorite part.
He said, what did he say?
Next time I'll have you over for some jumbo barbecue shrimp.
You motherfucker.
It didn't sound right.
They should have, they should have took another take a lot.
And then John, for some reason, is,
Ah, David, David, what are you doing?
Here, he's trying to haul ass in his limo
with the cops.
on it on his ass and everything but um i think i don't think uh john wanted barbosa dead i think
he just wanted to to to bring him in but david was too far gone i mean he he he crossed
that line he wanted to be the next um i guess barbosa of la um yeah because he he told his
wife, he, he, he, he wanted his cake and eat it too. That's what he wanted. Yeah. So, because his wife,
David's wife, you've been told me, look, man, you need, you need to stop this. Let's, let's just move
somewhere else. But, um, when you get greedy and, and everything, and that's when everything starts
to fall apart. And that's what was happening with David, because he was, he was, it seemed like he was
losing John. And, um, what was the, uh, young black?
lady's name?
Yeah, I forget about her.
She's kind of
Betty.
Okay, I just remember her from
the hell was that movie.
I just watched it.
Eddie Murphy.
Rickishay.
No.
Coming to America.
And she, that's why she wasn't a ricochet.
Did you watch the new one?
It would have been funnier if it was rated R.
but it started out good and then it just kind of fizzled out
yeah maybe we'll talk about that one one day but yeah
it started he got paid for it it was a good idea
I mean it was good to see everybody come back into it
that's what I enjoyed but the ending kind of like
it just fell apart at the end but anyway
the coming to America
Check it out.
Streaming on Amazon.
So once Barbosa was gone,
David and John were on the run
because the cops know now where they are.
But,
oh, they took all the money
from Barbosa, right?
Yeah.
Okay, so they had all that money,
that big old van full of money.
And that's when they had,
what's his name?
Gopher.
That's when they pulled him in
and said,
all right man
basically what do you know
so he told him
what the situation was
and his part
in Barbosa's empire
yeah and he he let him
because the David said
the guy said we owe this much
and then he was the gopher
was like no not even close
he's gonna kill you guys
yeah so
that's when
well you know what set up
we'll set up a meeting
uh with the higher ups
and we'll try to
that was when David was trying to
tell them about his new synthetic drug that he wanted
but I liked
well before all that before all that big meetup
that's when
John went back to
Culver what that is his name
Carver when he went to him
told him what was going on.
That's when Carver was like,
you cannot be a part of this.
Because he told him,
don't go to that deal
because they knew the cops
were going to bust.
Basically,
they were going to bring David down
because they were going to use Barbosa
to do it.
Because they told him,
he told him,
don't go to that deal.
Don't.
If you're going to fuck it all up for us,
so don't go.
But he was like,
man,
he had to be there.
So he can basically show his face
so everyone can trust him.
But,
And then that all messed up because
He was yelling at him like
Oh man, you're fucking this all up
And then that's when John was realizing like
What the fuck am I doing?
He goes, I've been killing.
I've been selling drugs to everybody.
And
And that's when he just lost it.
You know what?
I quit.
He didn't want to be a cop anymore.
He was like, man, I mean,
I loved all the the the narrations.
he was giving throughout the whole film basically saying that look man I can make more money selling drugs he goes he was yelling him you turned me into a drug dealer and and then he's like man I don't need you I can I can make my own money doing all this and then um because he said he never never drank and he never did drugs so he was like so mad at the basically at the DA and what they did to him
Man, pulling him into this and making him do their dirty work.
So that's when he was like, fuck it.
And he started drinking, started snorting coke and everything.
I thought he was just going to, like, go deep, deep into it and just fuck the police and just be the new drug lord of L.A.
That's what I thought he was going to because he was like, because when they found him, he was sitting in that bar and they were like, man, you're all fucked up.
And you can see it, man.
He looked like he hadn't slipped and he was all coped up and drunk.
He's a dedicated actor
So but they
That's when David was telling look all right
It's all set up we're gonna go do it
Taft was still kind of keeping tabs on on John and everything
And when every they had multiple conversations throughout the film
I mean because he knew that he was doing dirty and he was trying to tell him to
Come on man you don't need this
I mean, I mean, I thought that was cool, though, about that, about that, a police officer,
Clarence Williams telling him, telling John, the Lawrence Fishburn's character.
Because he obviously seen him out there doing dirt and out there selling drugs and everything.
But he was, I don't know why he kept trying to help him get out of it.
He had that line where I think, I forgot which conversation, but, uh,
John had said one of his
little quotes or whatever
and Taft was like you and me are one and the same
so I think he felt like
they had some kind of connection
yeah so I mean that that's what I loved
about his character
um so we get to the main
big deal at the end Taft
is creeping around the shadow so he's watching
but before the the bigwigs
the the Colombian drug lord guy
show up. They had
gopher with a video camera.
All right in here, just you know what to do.
Go go hide.
So that's when John and
David meet up with
who was it? Who was the main
guy keeper getting?
Guzman.
Guzman to meet up with them.
And his whole crew
in me, he came prepared.
Limos, everything
and a whole army of guys
down at the docks.
And they was like, well, what are we doing here?
And that's when they told them about the new drug.
And they told them, well, here's the, here's basically the here's the blueprints for it.
This is what we want to do.
And here's a sample because they all tried it.
And I remember that one of those little side guys are like, yeah, buy it.
Yeah, because he does it.
And then he's like, uh, and then he looks at Guzbozbollah.
Like, yeah.
So, I mean, they were, they were getting ready to, to.
to be partners with David and John.
But what's his name?
Taft was just not a good a good hider because they found him.
But before they found him, he got on his radio and was trying to call him for backup.
What was it up with the cops not wanting to send backup?
I chalked it out.
You know, after all these rewatches, I just chalked it up to police was on.
this or somebody in the police department was in on this.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well,
it was probably,
what's his name?
Carver.
Yeah,
it was probably him telling him all that.
So he was like,
fuck, man,
I'm here by myself.
So I think eventually backup was coming.
But once they pulled him in and they found him,
uh,
the,
they were,
was a Guzman,
Guzman's guys,
they were speaking Spanish and then they were like,
all right,
let's go.
And they were like,
what the fuck?
David and John.
John are like, what the fuck's happening?
And then they left.
And that's when they went out by the cars.
And that's when they pulled out Taft.
And they were like, all right, here he is.
And he's a police.
And then they were like, all right, we got to get out of here.
But then that's what I was like, you guys are all under arrest, this and that.
And he's like, I don't know what you're talking about.
We're just down here.
And he goes, well, what about your money?
And he's like, I don't know what's, I don't know what you're talking about.
We're just here.
Because he pulled the old diplomatic community thing, which somebody let us know, or
I don't know if you know, but can you really just do whatever you want and then just claim diplomatic immunity?
I don't know.
I just learned that from lethal weapon, too.
That's as far as I don't know.
Because, yeah, when Taff was calling in, he was like, yeah, man, they got diplomatic plates and this and that.
So, I mean, he realized who they were.
But they were like, nah, man, we're just here.
We're just here hanging out.
I don't know what you're talking about.
And then they.
Did he kill him?
Taft?
No, no.
Because what's his name, shot him?
Yeah.
Oh, Guzma?
Yeah.
No, David shot Taft.
Yeah.
Or did Guzman's guys kill him or shoot him up first?
He was,
Taff was telling him how I'm going to arrest you and Guzma.
I was just like, no, you're not.
And they just got their limo and left.
So nothing happened to them, right?
No.
Oh, no.
That's right.
left.
Yeah.
And then that's when Taff was, uh, are you guys on the rest, man.
Back up to be here any minute now because you can hear the,
the sirens coming.
And that's when David just, she blast, uh, Taff and he goes down and John just,
oh, David, what did you do?
Yeah, David, you shouldn't have done that.
Oh, no.
It's not looking good for you, David.
Yeah, because he was just like, oh, man.
And then David was like, come on, fuck him, man, let's go.
And then he walks, or no, David goes to the van.
He was getting ready to get it and goes like, come on, man, let's go.
And John grabs Tafts radio and starts, we got a code three.
We need ambulance and this and that.
And he was, and then he was looking at him.
He goes, oh, David, I'm a cop.
And he was, what the fuck you're talking about?
And he goes, I'm a cop.
And he was like, oh.
This is probably the one thing.
don't get he just you just watched him call in officer down yeah and then you just like
you're a what you're why are you questioning it neither shoot him or try to get away something
but you know the reflex was too slow or something because he just um he walks up on him and
the tap is already full of holes and he pumps in one more into him and then and that that's what
kills him and that's when uh john gets up and they kind of have their
little their little showdown.
And then,
um,
that's right.
Uh,
he killed him.
He,
he shoots,
uh,
Dave in the chest a couple times.
Mm-hmm.
And then,
you think it was,
uh,
ego why David didn't leave?
Because how he,
in the beginning thought John was a cop.
I,
I think,
other,
he was probably high as fuck on,
on whatever,
whatever he was,
trying to slang.
But,
Um, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't get why he just didn't.
I mean, he saw it.
He saw him called in and everything.
And, and he flat out told him, I'm a cop.
I don't know why he just didn't unload on John and just get in the van and take off.
But, but I just, I just figured he was so, so far gone and so fucked up and just so much happened so, so fast.
Uh, I just assumed that he's had a brain fart and didn't really know what to do.
because he was like, nah, you're not.
Come on, just get in the car and let's go.
Yeah, because he was kind of like,
I think he even said, like, that doesn't matter.
Just let's go.
Like, I don't know.
It was kind of weird.
It was kind of, because it kind of does matter.
The cops all show up.
And then they, I don't think they arrested John,
because I think that's when the DEA guy step.
and they told him, I mean, Carver told him,
look, man, you're going to have to go in front of that
for those judges and tell everyone what happened.
And he goes, but what we want you to do is to go in there
and just tell him your assignment and make us look good.
So he was like, all right.
But then I loved how he was, you know what?
I want this and I want this and I want that
and I want it all in writing.
And I want my lawyer to look over it.
Because they didn't want him to give up
Guzman.
Uh-uh.
Because they were working with him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
Because they were the ones that saying they want him to run for president or something.
So that's why the DEA was in on it with Guzman and those guys.
So he went in there.
I mean, when John was sitting there in the court, and he did tell him,
look okay this is what I was supposed to do and this is what I did and that's it I mean the
DEA's department the department they they they look like the heroes but then that's
when he turned around to gopher and is it here give me the tape and then he goes all right
the real MVP of the movie go for even though he was sleeping in court though he said
Steven produces a videotape of the incriminating conversation
with Guzman at the shipyard during his testimony to the house judicious whatever subcommittee
Rooney in the state departments and tensions along with Guzman and Carver's careers
So said later the he completes with what to do with 11 okay. That's for something else, but yeah, so that tape basically showed
Guzman was dirty and in because they stood in the video when they show man you see them sniffing that coat
and everything.
So that's what he told him.
Look,
yeah,
this is,
uh,
this is the,
the DEA and Guzmane were in cahoots.
I loved how that one guy was like,
no,
this is,
this is all nothing.
We did just,
we're just going to seize that tape.
And he said,
yeah,
go ahead.
Seize that tape.
He was like,
go ahead.
There's been,
there's been copies and there are already been,
uh,
distributed to the,
to the news.
So I want to know that guy's story.
Yeah.
Because he was like,
get that tape.
So he was,
he was,
he was,
was obviously in on it too.
So, I mean,
so I mean, and that was,
that was it for them.
I mean, they were pretty much all those people were going down.
The Carver and,
and whoever else was involved in whoever that one guy
was speaking up screaming, grabbed that tape,
as well as Guzman and his crew.
I mean, they all, they were all going down.
Do you think he continued to be a cop?
Or was that it?
This is the end of his career.
Well, it says he kept 11 million of Gallegos' money.
So I don't know.
Because, I mean.
And he had the little boy, too.
Well, that's right.
Because the mom died.
She overdosed.
So he had him.
But, I mean, they told him because they were saying, yeah.
And he goes, well, what would you do with all that money?
Because they were saying some of it was missing.
And then he was like, I don't know what I was talking about.
But yeah.
he ended up keeping 11 million and he was like if I give it back to them I'm a fool
or if I keep it I'm a fool if I try to do good with it
he was like I don't know I think that's what he was going to try to do eventually
so I okay I assume at this point he was just his career as a police officer was done
but he had 11 million dollars but I don't think he could run around and spend it
Because I think that's when they would probably come after him.
So I think he was going to do good with it.
Give it to, I don't know, children's homes and all that.
Yeah, he ends up walking off into the sunset with Betty and that little kid.
Betty.
She was just, she worked for David and she was laundering.
Yeah, she was laundering all the money.
Because that's what they were going.
that's what they were going to get her for.
They said, look, man, she was laundering all this money.
We're bringing her down too.
But then that's when John goes, no, she needs to be let go and everything as well before I say anything.
So they're like, all right.
So that's what they agreed.
So she got, she got let go and everything.
And she better stay with him forever because he, for not knowing her that long.
He put a lot on the line.
Because she was straight up with him in the beginning because I don't trust you.
Yeah.
I was like, bitch.
Yeah, I mean, but this movie is awesome.
I mean, we ran through the basic points of the film, but it's, this film is just a timeless classic.
I don't know how much it cost to make it, but they said it box off.
It's 16.6 million.
So is New Line Cinema still around?
Yeah.
Okay.
I haven't seen them in a while, but.
Well, we haven't been in the movies in a while.
So hopefully
Maybe a year or so
It'll calm down
And get back into the theater
New Lion Cinemas is a part of Warner Bros.
You guys are crooks too
But this movie's awesome
I mean I love it
It's definitely a true 90s classic
And just
another awesome film that
Lawrence Fishburn was a part of.
Again, I would say this is probably
my favorite film with him,
him as well as Jeff Goldblum.
Jeff Goldblum, again, when you see him,
you just see the comedic side of him.
But, I mean, he did do some,
some edgy roles because he was
in the very first death wish,
and he was one of the little street tuffs
that raped Charles Bronson's
daughter in the beginning of the film.
him.
Wasn't he,
credited as, like,
rapist or something?
Yeah,
I think so.
And he was also,
I just,
Oh,
he was freak number one.
I just watched,
um,
uh,
Donald Sutherland,
their knee mooy,
San Francisco,
uh,
invasion of the body snatchers.
He was in that,
too.
I mean,
Jeff Goldblum has aged well.
I mean,
I don't think he went under the knife for any plastic surgery,
but,
yeah,
his hair got,
Ray, but he
almost looks the same.
That was when I first seen him.
But this film's awesome.
Where was this streaming again?
I don't remember.
Cinemax?
Cinemax or stars,
but I'm going to say Cinemax.
Yeah, one of them.
All right, everyone.
This was Brian's pick.
So I am going to give you my pick
for the next stream fiends.
Let me see if I can find it again.
All right.
Well, here it is.
It's on,
it's free,
but with ads on IMDB TV.
And this is the 1990.
Sticking in the 90s.
1990 Christopher Walkin and Lawrence Fishburn,
classic King in New York.
I have not seen this in a while.
That's funny.
That was my next pick.
Because, no, this came out after.
No, no, no.
King in New York was before a deep cover.
If you guys have not seen that again,
it's streaming on IMDB TV with ads.
I don't think they go overboard with the ads.
I know in the beginning there's a few,
but once you start watching films,
they kind of just go away.
but the movie isn't very long
it's only hour and 43 minutes
but this is definitely one
I mean I think this one
was one of the
old school blockbuster
rentals because I remember
well shit I don't want to get into
I'll get into when we will start talking about it
but yeah
King of New York is for the next
stream themes so
As far as
E Society, we just dropped our episode 212
as well as our episode for Up to the Challenge.
I believe that was episode 28.
For those of you that downloaded the first go-around,
the audio was just shit.
I mean, it sounded good in the beginning,
but then we started to talk on top of each other.
So I was like, so I had to take it down,
re-edit it.
Now it sounds better.
So for those of you that,
Download it already
Download it again
And you can hear it'll it'll sound
A million times better
As well as our
Our new episode
We got another episode coming
Love Society 3
Kind of our up to the challenge deal
With the Zizi's daughter
When we tackle
Love Story movies
So that's coming
Magnus podcast
Just trying to work out some time
for interviews.
I got like three or four interviews lined up.
Just got to sit down and figure out who can do it first and all this.
So that's coming.
Everyone just hang on.
And yeah, that's it.
Yeah, that's all I got to say.
But everyone, thank you for listening to everything we, Brian and I have done so far here on the Horror Returns Network,
be it action returns.
our bonus episodes.
Definitely check that one out.
If you guys haven't heard it
when we talked about the funeral home,
I ended up watching that again
because I was kind of confused with the ending
and I'm still confused.
But it's a good movie, everyone.
Definitely check that out.
And yeah, that's it for me.
So just be safe out there and party on.
Yeah, by the time you hear this,
you would have already heard
on March Madness episode.
I believe it's called
second best,
worst movie.
Got a little confusing to me.
I apologize,
everybody.
I was a stand-in for somebody else,
so I did my best.
And next episode for the horror returns,
we're going to tackle the new wrong turn movie,
which I got some things to say about that movie.
So until next time,
everybody stay safe.
