The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #10: Deep Cover (1992)

Episode Date: March 17, 2021

Tonights the night Brian and Nez get in some s**t, deep cover on the incognito tip. This episode the guys go undercover in the city of angels to bring down the drug lords in 1992's DEEP COVER.   List...en and follow Brian and Nez's other show The Action Returns. Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns

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Starting point is 00:00:12 everybody welcome back to another episode of THR presents stream fiends I got the right show this time I'm your host Brian and you know who's with me my brother Nez what's up man yo tonight's the night we get in some shit deep cover on the incognito tip
Starting point is 00:00:32 oh man this movie's fucking hell of fresh man I remember the first time we went and seen it one of my buddies he worked out of driving. Like, oh, man, you gotta go see this movie, so we went down, man, we watched it. Oh, I was like, fuck, man, that shit was hell of good.
Starting point is 00:00:48 This is like early, early, um, I think he changed his name to Lawrence by then, because he wasn't Larry Fishburn, like you, or was he Larry Fishburn and this? I mean, I remember. He might have been,
Starting point is 00:01:04 but, no, I know he was Larry Fishburn. Dream movies. Yeah. And, uh, but, um, I mean, he's done so many good films, as well as Jeff Goldblum, but I'd have to say this is probably my favorite film that both of them have done. I mean, especially Jeff Goldblum. We've seen him be the comedic role or a serious role, and then he's all over the place. But he was a little ruthless in this one.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I thought this movie was awesome. When did you first see this? Well, if nobody's really figured it out, you. Yeah, we're talking about deep cover. Do what you want to. Boys in the hoods, Larry Fishburn has a new job. You got really lucky today. He's got to think like a criminal.
Starting point is 00:01:52 It's not 10 kilos we want with 120. I don't trust you. Act. Like a dealer. Where are you moving this? Do Macy's turn gimbals? And be the best cop on these streets. Don't fly.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Featuring new music by Dr. Dre. Opens Wednesday at a theater near you. Let me, let me go through the quick little synopsis. As you know, we usually do. Got to go, got to go to the Googles first. David Jason is the biggest drug dealer in Los Angeles. Is he? Russell, Russell Stevens is an undercover cop who wants to bring him down, posing as a dealer.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Stevens begins to earn his trust of the LA drug underworld. eventually making his way to Jason himself. But along the way, he has to take his cover to depths he never thought he would have to see, including selling drugs and going to great lengths to eliminate potential competitors for Jason's drug cartel. It wasn't his drug cartel. Yeah. Let's see, RMDB. Yep, short and sweet.
Starting point is 00:03:10 A uniform cop is recruited by a drug dealer. enforcement agent to infiltrate a drug smuggling ring looking to expand the operation. And let's see. This came out in 1992. Yep. He was listed as Larry Fishburn, Jeff Goldblum, Charles Martin Smith, directed by the legendary Bill Duke. And the first time I seen this, I was, oh gosh, I was young.
Starting point is 00:03:45 But it wasn't because of the movie. one of one of my my boys uh like his his older brother was telling us about this this this new rapper coming out named snoop doggie dog and he was on this song with dr dr dr day and he played this a song and we were like you know what what is this off of and then he was telling us it's a movie called deep cover and that's how i got introduced to the movie and i love this movie um i think more so for uh jeff goldblum because of where his characters kind of started and where it progressed at the end, it was a big switch from how he was acting in the beginning to the end.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And Larry Fishburn, Lawrence Fishburn, I liked his character, but there was a couple questionable moments. Why were you acting like that? But, yeah, there was a, there was some good action in here. There's a lot of quotable lines. and overall good movie, man. Yeah, I thought everybody in it was good. I mean, I've seen this multiple times,
Starting point is 00:04:57 but watching it this time, as a young guy growing up watching just like TV, mainly what was it, good time, getting on a good time, Sanford and Son, Guzman, Renee, I can't even pronounce his Azza. I think that's how you say his last name. Oh, no, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm confusing him with someone else. There's a guy. He was in Sanford, his son. He was this on IMDB. It's not in any kind of
Starting point is 00:05:36 order. He was the main drug dealer guy that Jeff Goldblum was dealing with before. Oh, uh, Felix Barbosa. Yeah, Gregory Sierra. Um, I mean, seeing him and, and earlier roles, but then watching this as he popped up into it, I just thought it was awesome. Also, uh, Sydney Lysik, uh, he's gopher, uh, for those of you, uh, alligator fans. He was the guy that was, uh, putting the, bringing in the dogs to the, to the scientists people so they can do tests on them. Plus he's been in.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Oh, yeah. He was in a shit ton of movies, but. Um, Barbosa, I didn't, mainly because I seen him in a lot of comedic roles, uh, the first time watching this.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And even this time, I was like, I didn't, I wasn't buying him as this rough and tough, uh, drug dealer. And, yes,
Starting point is 00:06:33 especially that one scene when they're doing the, the hand slap game. Yeah. I'm like, is he hurting you that bad? Come on. Jeff Goldblum, you're,
Starting point is 00:06:42 you're a pretty fucking big guy. Yeah. And especially Jeff Goldblum. Goldblum as David Jason. He was, was he a lawyer? What was he? I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:52 because he would seem like he was all over the place with his business. Yeah, he was a lawyer. I think, yeah, I think he was a lawyer by day. And that was like basically his cover. And he was,
Starting point is 00:07:07 uh, handling his business at night. Yeah. I mean, because what this film was, I mean, I loved, uh,
Starting point is 00:07:17 the, the, the, whole thing on Lawrence Fishburn's character. He was Russell Stevens. And I also played John Hull once he went to deep cover. Because he grew up with a drug addict mom and a drug addict dad. And he was just out there stick up kid and all this.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And seeing his dad just do drugs as well as his mom growing up. and watching his dad be murdered for robbing a liquor store. I mean, this was all right in the very beginning. And while he's narrating the story saying that he just because of what he grew up with and what he had seen, this is the type of stuff that he was just not going to be a part of. So he wanted to do good for his community and then he became a police officer. So, but he's approached by a DEA special agent, Gerald Carver. And just basically telling him that, look, we need you to go undercover and try to just stop this little drug ring that was going on in L.A.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I mean, those drug ring guys made it seem like there were small time. except for the the main guy that comes in later on. But, I mean, I mean, that scene was kind of rough. I mean, when they had the interviews to find. Oh, yeah. What's the difference between a black man and inward? I won't say it, but you guys know what he means. Pinky was one of those guys.
Starting point is 00:09:06 one of the he didn't know which is clearly the wrong answer I like that other guy the one big officer he just stood up and grabbed him and pulled him he's like who the fuck you think you're
Starting point is 00:09:20 talking to um but that guy he is a director he also directed or he directed um the classic film uh trick trick or treat not trick our treat
Starting point is 00:09:34 trick or treat the one with the they say it's a heavy metal horror film come on it's more like just of a hard rock film but it's an awesome film for those who have seen it but he directed that one plus he was also an American graffiti and Starman and a bunch of other things
Starting point is 00:09:53 what the hell is his name you know I'm talking about um damn it there's like no pictures for anybody yeah Charles Martin Smith he's he was the the DEA agent guy basically trying to find an officer to go undercover to stop this drug deal so Lawrence Fishburn because when he asked him that question he said inward would be the one to answer that question and he was like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:10:37 So he picks him to be a part of this. So he sends him to L.A. To just try to get into the underground of how all the drug dealers are. There was even a young cane from Minister Society. He was one of the street kids. Yeah, I see. I seen him. Yeah, a couple scenes.
Starting point is 00:11:02 No words. No, he just had him in the background. Okay. I mean, this movie, I mean, I've seen this. I mean, in real life dealing with the drugs and everything. The part that gets me every time I watch this, or even this last watch, was the neighbor that Lawrence Fishburn had to move into this little rundown hood apartment. And his neighbor was this, I think she was poor.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Puerto Rican and she was just a drug addict. She just wanted to me. This is kind of right into the, into the crack era. And she was just, I need, she just needed drugs. She needed crack. She was willing to sell her son for like $2,000 or something like that.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah, I think her name was Belinda. Yeah. I mean, that shit is fucking, oh, man, I'm, I didn't know anybody that, that, that was that scandalous, but I had seen it.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And I just, I don't like it when, when I see it. So that that part was just like, oh, man. I mean, I, I just don't like it. Because I see, I see my friend's mom doing that. And she was just like embarrassed by her mom being a drug addict. And I was like, oh, man. I mean, it was just, I mean, this stuff was all around us. And I mean, I'm like Lawrence Fishburn's character in this.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I mean, I saw it so much. It made me not want to do it. I don't, I don't see the enjoyment in it or any. I mean, I got high as fuck with everybody. Yeah, but now it was just weed. But I didn't mess with all the hard-ass drugs that were out there and that are still out there. I just, I just didn't mess with that. A lot of my friends were out there selling and doing it as well.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But I just, I'm good. I'm going to go this direction and just stick with weed and all that and get my drink on. And never messed with all that. So watching these films, especially these films that were made around this time, a lot like this and New Jack City, that dealing with the whole crack era as well. I'm going to have to do that on something at some point. but that that type of stuff in this film I mean because it like like he's going deep cover
Starting point is 00:13:37 to bring down this drug these drug lor drug kingpins or whatever that are going on in L.A. So I loved all that how he just had to to get into that mindset. I mean it was good for him. I mean, thinking about it, he's seen it growing up. So he knew he knew the rules.
Starting point is 00:14:00 knew the game. So I think that would that helped him a lot to go in to do it. But you could see that he was struggling, uh, throughout the film of, I, I, I became a police officer to,
Starting point is 00:14:13 to stop this type of stuff. Now look at me. Here I am out here. Selling drugs to, to, to my own people, people that look like me. So I,
Starting point is 00:14:24 I mean, that, that must have been rough and tough. But I mean, to be a police officer, period. I mean, that takes a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:30 But to be undercover agent like this guy was to go really undercover to just get out there into the shit and everything to deal with all this. I mean, I think it was just it takes a different kind of person to not care to do it. Yeah, I think it's like for people that go undercover, I think it's like mandatory. They have to go see like a psychiatrist after psychologist or I don't know the difference. between either one, but I think they have to go seek some kind of counseling after because they get so far deep into it. Like they forget who they really are. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of movies like this.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I mean, did you see that movie, Narc? With Jason Patrick and Buster Arms. The fuck's his name from Goodfellas. Henry. Ray Leota. Yeah. Oh, man. That too, man.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I mean, they, you go so far into this, I mean, to where you got to do the drugs. I mean, if you listen to this song, I mean, deep cover by Dre and Snoop, I mean, they tell, in the right in the beginning of the song, man, they're smoking weed. And he's like, here, man, hit this. And he's like, no, man, I can't even fuck with it. And he's like, man, I'll be dealing with you for three fucking months. You ain't ever hit the pipe in front of me yet. And he's what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I think you, 50. 5.0. 5.0 ain't no motherfucking cop. we hit this shit then that ill-ass beat kicks in I mean out of everything Dre and Snoop have done to me this is the definitive
Starting point is 00:16:08 Dre and Snoop it's the very first track they've ever done together from from my knowledge I could be wrong don't quote me on it but that song it the beat is just fucking smooth as fucking it's ill and it's simple they didn't need to pile all kinds of shit
Starting point is 00:16:24 on top of it I know what's supposed to be talking about the movie but that song is stuck in my head they didn't pile so much junk onto the today's i mean if you listen today's hip hop to me in my opinion today's hip hop is garbage but anyway um it's just it was awesome and just uh the smooth-ass lyrics smooth-ass lyrics of snoop i mean it was just fucking it made sense if you guys don't know you should have heard this song by now but if you don't read the lyrics to what they're saying in the song and it goes right along with this film so i mean i don't even know if they even saw the before they did the
Starting point is 00:16:59 before they did the track but I mean it went it went right along with it I mean it was just made the whole soundtrack for this album or for this film was good but um once uh John Hull or uh Russell Stevens
Starting point is 00:17:15 Lawrence Fishburn Larry Fishburn once he once he gets into it I mean he like really dives into it it's funny to watch these old 90s movies because of the the style of the clothing. I said it on the last night.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I'm still wearing the same shit I wore one in the 80s and 90s, but I was never a flashy dresser, and I just, it just wasn't me. But looking at the hairstyles, as well as all the, all the clothing and the shoes and everything, everybody's got to look fitted in this.
Starting point is 00:17:53 What was the one dude? I see he, was a the rival a ivy that fool yeah
Starting point is 00:18:05 always quoting Arnold I was like I'll be Bach you've seen that movie you can run in out of your local video store
Starting point is 00:18:14 I'll be bark I was like what the hell yeah he may be laugh but he just went a little overboard I mean
Starting point is 00:18:23 but that I mean that that character is real I mean that was how my buddy's uncle was exactly like that big and buff hella chains talked hell of shit never ever saw him get into any scraps or anything but i think he would just his look was intimidating so everyone left him alone but i got i was talking shit all the way till he died yeah he did his last words was you fucking bitch because i mean even that scene because when he uh that
Starting point is 00:18:54 the rival drug dealer once you step into someone's territory i mean he he was no he was straight up about it man he blasted um one of uh john holes uh one of one of one of his girls one that was out there uh selling for him and he was trying to talk and that fool just rolled right up and she blew her blow her brains out and then his chick was down for him too the the little blonde chick Yeah, she was. And she was the driver. She burned out. I don't even know what kind of car that was.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I think it was a little convertible Mustang or something. But when he had to come across him again, because that was kind of their main rival. I mean, there wasn't a bunch of different drug dealers in this. If there were, they were just all little small-time guys. But he was trying to bring down the big bosses. because in this story there's two there was um what the hell was that guy's name a barboso what he was the was he the main one or was he the no he was the first one he was then they had then they had to get to Anton Gallegos and uh and then the the last guy was uh
Starting point is 00:20:12 Guzman was he the main one I think so all right the senator or whatever he was He has some kind of political ties. Yeah. Was he the one they were saying they wanted him to run for president? Yeah, that guy, I think. Yeah, I mean, there was all kinds of dirt in this. But, I mean, I know some people don't think this happens or it's true, but this movie was all too true. I mean, politicians and lawyers and dirty cops.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I mean, everybody was in this. And it was all dealing with drugs. I mean, who was it? Nino Brown said it best in New Jack City. He was like, there ain't nobody's making machine guns or anything in our neighborhoods. And there ain't no poppy fields in the hood. And he goes, all this stuff is brought in from other countries. And small-time dealers ain't the ones bringing them in.
Starting point is 00:21:17 You get to all these big guys and all these people in the high-ups. positions and these big businessmen are the ones that are bringing it all in. I mean, some people may not think so, but I mean, I mean, that shit is all too real. I mean, there's a lot of cover up going on in this country. And I'm sure as well as in other countries, but, um, excuse me, uh, but yeah, he was trying to just bring everyone down and, and as he's going along dealing with all these little shy-sty-ass fools. What was the one dude's name?
Starting point is 00:21:47 Uh, he was. he was no uh eddie yeah he was in a ton of movies as well yeah he's i don't know how to put i put this delicately he's always like the whitest act in black man in the movie uh that's just his role he always plays he kind of plays that he plays a real good uh roger guinevere smith yeah i think that's how you say his name but yeah eddie Fast talking, Eddie, you knew the minute you were introduced to this character that he was going to die. Well, he was, he was getting high on, on his own supply. And it was, it was just, it was getting the best of him.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Oh, with the, with the one white chick and the, yeah, he calls this do being queen. Because when, um, uh, John had to go get him, he was like in that crack house. I was like, man. I mean, that's how far. I mean, he's supposed to be selling it for, for, um, keep wanting to say Barbosa. Was that his name? Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I think I got it. It's Barbosa, Guzman, and I think Gallegos was the last one. All right. So, um, okay,
Starting point is 00:23:07 he was supposed to. But I think, I think he, I think Eddie worked for, uh, Jeff Goldblum, though. Oh,
Starting point is 00:23:13 that's right. Okay. Jeff Gold. Yeah, he, Eddie worked for Jeff Goldblum and Joe, get Jeff Goldblum. Goldblum worked for Barbosa.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Okay. David Jason was Jeff Goldblum. Okay. Yeah, so that for Eddie, man, he was just, I loved him best. I can't remember his name and do the right thing. He was a guy that had that real stuttering problem. But he's been in a ton of films. And yeah, I understand.
Starting point is 00:23:41 He's the, my friend, he, go, man, that's that or. dude so those you don't know that term look it up but um but yeah I mean but he's a good actor man I mean everything I've seen him in he's always done good so I mean he does he does these I don't want to say he's typecasted but it seems he's always falling into these little shady character roles but yeah because they have to deal with him because like I said he's getting high and not really I mean he's selling it but he's doing more than he's selling because he always end up
Starting point is 00:24:21 owning these guys and they had to basically did they just beat the hell out of him or did they kill him because Barbosa started beating his ass with that pool cue I think he beat him to death and I think he was going to continue to beat him until Gofer
Starting point is 00:24:37 had told him to stop another question was was Gofer just Barbosa's little sidekick or was that like his his lover. I don't know because I always kind of had that feeling but then they get go for a stripper for his birthday dinner. So I was confused but I don't know. Maybe gopher likes a little bit of everything. But I also kind of felt like he had a hand in the business
Starting point is 00:25:10 because he because later on he gives uh um David and uh John some information that that he knew about how much was how much money was really owed and so he has some kind of hand in the business yeah i mean i think uh he had to i mean i can't i know exactly what uh his part in the whole uh organization of barbosa's crew because barbosa was the leader and then seemed like gopher was a little sidekick and then he had all his little hitman uh surrounding them which none of them did anything really no they would just standing around. So
Starting point is 00:25:51 David, Jeff Goldblum, he was just starting to get greedy with that. John Hull, Lawrence Fishburn, he was just
Starting point is 00:26:02 trying to get through all these little small-time guys to get to the main dude, which was, uh, wasn't Guzman.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Who was the main dude? Gallegos. Okay. They, he was just trying to get to him. Because Gallegos was the one that was the main supplier of everything
Starting point is 00:26:22 and Jason David Jason Jeff Goldblum he was trying to come up with this new where he did they he came up with a new synthetic drug thing because I guess
Starting point is 00:26:36 they were breaking it down they say when you sniff coke and everything I've never tried it but it it said it did this to you it did that got you high and it just made you like worthless.
Starting point is 00:26:51 He goes, but this new synthetic drug that they were making, they were adding something to the Coke to make it to where you can continue to function better. He goes, yeah, man, you can snort this at work and still be good and keep on working. So
Starting point is 00:27:06 David was trying to get that that money and get that connection with the head drug lord. Were they from Columbia or where were they from? I think so. But yeah, they weren't really down with the synthetic Coke. No, they just wanted the real stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I think that guy created the Coke for class of 1999, what they was using. Oh, fuck. What did they call that? I don't even know. Something stupid. You know, when it's one of those futuristic gang-type movies, there's always a drug, just like Robocop 2 was like nuke. And that stuff in D. dread um oh uh what the fuck was it called i just remember slowed everything down yeah which i don't know
Starting point is 00:27:57 that didn't seem fun speaking to that did you uh did you get the steel book yeah i got i i preordered it but i got to pick it out because they weren't delivering so but yeah i got i got a copy all the pre-orders were done in my area i just had to order it they're going to send it to me though so hopefully they told me I don't pick that shit I don't know they said all the pre-orders sold out
Starting point is 00:28:21 and they're uh I don't know wherever they're coming from they're gonna send me once on okay good as long as I have it I've been better not crushed but so yeah yeah that was that's what David and those guys are trying he was trying to
Starting point is 00:28:36 make uh his millions with more millions billions with his synthetic shit but uh everyone else was like now they they weren't having it but so they so David and and John were trying to be the ones to take out all the competition to get to the main drug dealer to help to basically try to talk him into like here
Starting point is 00:29:01 we'll supply you all this we'll give you this much money and you supplies was the coke and we're going to add it and then we're going to make more money so that that was the whole plan that David wanted and John's his thing was just to to to bring bring down the drug dealers. But John had to keep checking in with the DEA agent guide. Carver. To report to him on everything. Because in the beginning,
Starting point is 00:29:32 when he was small time, they were giving him money. And he was just buying like this little nickel and dime shit. And slinging all that. And there was like, well, you need to bring in big money. Because right now you're not getting anywhere with this little bullshit. did that you're doing so that's when he started looking around and trying to see who these main
Starting point is 00:29:51 players were yeah which about this time you kind of start wondering about carver because there was a lot of stuff he knew before john told him and he would just say oh i know i'm god i know everything yeah i mean you just knew he was dirty i mean because of i mean the stuff that he was saying uh to john and everything so he was like like all right man whatever but he was still John was still out to trying to try to do it mainly trying to get uh in with the with the main guys to to get up to the top so that's why because when he joined up because um he didn't even David didn't even want him at first because when Eddie brought him to him to like yeah man this guy's going to help us sell and
Starting point is 00:30:37 David just looked at he's a cop and they were like nah I mean but he was straight up about it so but then he kind of slowly started to trust him and he started helping out with all that and other than taking out uh eddie because i mean he did tell them like man this guy is just crackhead so i mean we should get rid of him and then uh he owed him all kinds of money because that's when um what's his face barbosa was was was telling him like well you owe me some money and uh i know you don't have it so that's when he that's when he that's when he that's he fucking just beat the shit out of him and killed him. I like how Eddie tried to stab him with a fork real quick.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yeah, he did. I mean, he was scared. And then apologize after him. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't know. I mean, you're going to try to kill someone. No stab him in his shoulder. When he was stab him in the head or the eyes or something.
Starting point is 00:31:34 So Eddie was out of the way. John was starting to move up. But it still seemed like nobody was, was trusting him. Because Barbosa's like, all right, that's, that's David good guy. So let's let them deal with it. Because he was slowly trying to get around. And then they were telling him, they were telling him, oh, there was, what's his name? Clarence Williams III, Taft.
Starting point is 00:32:02 He was just, I assume just a narcotics officer. And he was trying to also bring down all the drug dealers. And the thing that was weird about that, which always never really made sense to me, they never tried to hide the cops. They were always out in the open watching them. Yeah. Because there was that one scene when John was divvying up or, no, he wasn't dealing. He was just talking to all his sellers.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And then he kind of got in his car and he looked over and he saw Taft and his other officers hanging out. And he just kind of gave him the peace on and then drove off. So it's like they knew the cops were on them. but just didn't, I don't know why they never really tried to hide. They were always out in the open because he does come up to him and have a conversation with him. To,
Starting point is 00:32:52 to, yeah, he was, he was trying to tell him to, to stop it, wasn't he? Yeah, he was,
Starting point is 00:33:00 trying to, basically what John really believed in, outside of his undercover work, he was, he was basically trying to, you know, explain that. And he was also,
Starting point is 00:33:13 you know, he's religious. man preaching to him, gave him a little mini Bible and stuff like that. So, but once John was getting into it, and he started realizing that Barbosa just wasn't, wasn't having it with them. So I think that's when David realized that they, okay, they're not going to go along with us. So I think we need to just stop them because they were trying to, they were doing a, a buy and they found out that Barbosa was working with the cops.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And he was wired for sound and everything. So they all just took off because all the cops and everybody was there. And then they all went chasing after him. This part always makes me laugh. What, Larry Fishburn's scream? that. And they, uh,
Starting point is 00:34:16 uh, the, uh, David grabs Barbosa and throws him in the limo and like this fucking you motherfucker you'd set us up and he starts shooting him in the leg and trying to get him to just jump out of a limo. And, uh, he won't and all that. So,
Starting point is 00:34:30 but he ends up shooting him a couple of times like in the hand and in, in, in the knees and then he throws them out. But he, he falls out and rules. But the. cops are like hot on their ass and they come around the corner and they don't or they're in a tunnel and I don't know how could how did they not see him and they blasted into him and he goes flying up it but um I don't even think they stopped no they didn't they just know they they they they I think
Starting point is 00:34:59 that one after they hit him and slammed on the brakes and the other one slammed in behind it and those two cop cars crashed but uh John and David and that and that other chick just kept a hauling ass and Jeff Goldblum. David, oh, you motherfucker. It's, it didn't sound That is my favorite part. He said, what did he say? Next time I'll have you over for some jumbo barbecue shrimp.
Starting point is 00:35:25 You motherfucker. It didn't sound right. They should have, they should have took another take a lot. And then John, for some reason, is, Ah, David, David, what are you doing? Here, he's trying to haul ass in his limo with the cops. on it on his ass and everything but um i think i don't think uh john wanted barbosa dead i think
Starting point is 00:35:53 he just wanted to to to bring him in but david was too far gone i mean he he he crossed that line he wanted to be the next um i guess barbosa of la um yeah because he he told his wife, he, he, he, he wanted his cake and eat it too. That's what he wanted. Yeah. So, because his wife, David's wife, you've been told me, look, man, you need, you need to stop this. Let's, let's just move somewhere else. But, um, when you get greedy and, and everything, and that's when everything starts to fall apart. And that's what was happening with David, because he was, he was, it seemed like he was losing John. And, um, what was the, uh, young black? lady's name?
Starting point is 00:36:44 Yeah, I forget about her. She's kind of Betty. Okay, I just remember her from the hell was that movie. I just watched it. Eddie Murphy. Rickishay.
Starting point is 00:37:00 No. Coming to America. And she, that's why she wasn't a ricochet. Did you watch the new one? It would have been funnier if it was rated R. but it started out good and then it just kind of fizzled out yeah maybe we'll talk about that one one day but yeah it started he got paid for it it was a good idea
Starting point is 00:37:27 I mean it was good to see everybody come back into it that's what I enjoyed but the ending kind of like it just fell apart at the end but anyway the coming to America Check it out. Streaming on Amazon. So once Barbosa was gone, David and John were on the run
Starting point is 00:37:46 because the cops know now where they are. But, oh, they took all the money from Barbosa, right? Yeah. Okay, so they had all that money, that big old van full of money. And that's when they had,
Starting point is 00:38:04 what's his name? Gopher. That's when they pulled him in and said, all right man basically what do you know so he told him what the situation was
Starting point is 00:38:15 and his part in Barbosa's empire yeah and he he let him because the David said the guy said we owe this much and then he was the gopher was like no not even close he's gonna kill you guys
Starting point is 00:38:31 yeah so that's when well you know what set up we'll set up a meeting uh with the higher ups and we'll try to that was when David was trying to tell them about his new synthetic drug that he wanted
Starting point is 00:38:50 but I liked well before all that before all that big meetup that's when John went back to Culver what that is his name Carver when he went to him told him what was going on. That's when Carver was like,
Starting point is 00:39:11 you cannot be a part of this. Because he told him, don't go to that deal because they knew the cops were going to bust. Basically, they were going to bring David down because they were going to use Barbosa
Starting point is 00:39:24 to do it. Because they told him, he told him, don't go to that deal. Don't. If you're going to fuck it all up for us, so don't go. But he was like,
Starting point is 00:39:32 man, he had to be there. So he can basically show his face so everyone can trust him. But, And then that all messed up because He was yelling at him like Oh man, you're fucking this all up
Starting point is 00:39:44 And then that's when John was realizing like What the fuck am I doing? He goes, I've been killing. I've been selling drugs to everybody. And And that's when he just lost it. You know what? I quit.
Starting point is 00:40:00 He didn't want to be a cop anymore. He was like, man, I mean, I loved all the the the narrations. he was giving throughout the whole film basically saying that look man I can make more money selling drugs he goes he was yelling him you turned me into a drug dealer and and then he's like man I don't need you I can I can make my own money doing all this and then um because he said he never never drank and he never did drugs so he was like so mad at the basically at the DA and what they did to him Man, pulling him into this and making him do their dirty work. So that's when he was like, fuck it. And he started drinking, started snorting coke and everything. I thought he was just going to, like, go deep, deep into it and just fuck the police and just be the new drug lord of L.A.
Starting point is 00:40:57 That's what I thought he was going to because he was like, because when they found him, he was sitting in that bar and they were like, man, you're all fucked up. And you can see it, man. He looked like he hadn't slipped and he was all coped up and drunk. He's a dedicated actor So but they That's when David was telling look all right It's all set up we're gonna go do it Taft was still kind of keeping tabs on on John and everything
Starting point is 00:41:25 And when every they had multiple conversations throughout the film I mean because he knew that he was doing dirty and he was trying to tell him to Come on man you don't need this I mean, I mean, I thought that was cool, though, about that, about that, a police officer, Clarence Williams telling him, telling John, the Lawrence Fishburn's character. Because he obviously seen him out there doing dirt and out there selling drugs and everything. But he was, I don't know why he kept trying to help him get out of it. He had that line where I think, I forgot which conversation, but, uh,
Starting point is 00:42:06 John had said one of his little quotes or whatever and Taft was like you and me are one and the same so I think he felt like they had some kind of connection yeah so I mean that that's what I loved about his character um so we get to the main
Starting point is 00:42:24 big deal at the end Taft is creeping around the shadow so he's watching but before the the bigwigs the the Colombian drug lord guy show up. They had gopher with a video camera. All right in here, just you know what to do. Go go hide.
Starting point is 00:42:44 So that's when John and David meet up with who was it? Who was the main guy keeper getting? Guzman. Guzman to meet up with them. And his whole crew in me, he came prepared.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Limos, everything and a whole army of guys down at the docks. And they was like, well, what are we doing here? And that's when they told them about the new drug. And they told them, well, here's the, here's basically the here's the blueprints for it. This is what we want to do. And here's a sample because they all tried it.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And I remember that one of those little side guys are like, yeah, buy it. Yeah, because he does it. And then he's like, uh, and then he looks at Guzbozbollah. Like, yeah. So, I mean, they were, they were getting ready to, to. to be partners with David and John. But what's his name? Taft was just not a good a good hider because they found him.
Starting point is 00:43:49 But before they found him, he got on his radio and was trying to call him for backup. What was it up with the cops not wanting to send backup? I chalked it out. You know, after all these rewatches, I just chalked it up to police was on. this or somebody in the police department was in on this. Yeah. Okay. Well,
Starting point is 00:44:10 it was probably, what's his name? Carver. Yeah, it was probably him telling him all that. So he was like, fuck, man, I'm here by myself.
Starting point is 00:44:19 So I think eventually backup was coming. But once they pulled him in and they found him, uh, the, they were, was a Guzman, Guzman's guys, they were speaking Spanish and then they were like,
Starting point is 00:44:33 all right, let's go. And they were like, what the fuck? David and John. John are like, what the fuck's happening? And then they left. And that's when they went out by the cars.
Starting point is 00:44:40 And that's when they pulled out Taft. And they were like, all right, here he is. And he's a police. And then they were like, all right, we got to get out of here. But then that's what I was like, you guys are all under arrest, this and that. And he's like, I don't know what you're talking about. We're just down here. And he goes, well, what about your money?
Starting point is 00:44:55 And he's like, I don't know what's, I don't know what you're talking about. We're just here. Because he pulled the old diplomatic community thing, which somebody let us know, or I don't know if you know, but can you really just do whatever you want and then just claim diplomatic immunity? I don't know. I just learned that from lethal weapon, too. That's as far as I don't know. Because, yeah, when Taff was calling in, he was like, yeah, man, they got diplomatic plates and this and that.
Starting point is 00:45:22 So, I mean, he realized who they were. But they were like, nah, man, we're just here. We're just here hanging out. I don't know what you're talking about. And then they. Did he kill him? Taft? No, no.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Because what's his name, shot him? Yeah. Oh, Guzma? Yeah. No, David shot Taft. Yeah. Or did Guzman's guys kill him or shoot him up first? He was,
Starting point is 00:45:54 Taff was telling him how I'm going to arrest you and Guzma. I was just like, no, you're not. And they just got their limo and left. So nothing happened to them, right? No. Oh, no. That's right. left.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah. And then that's when Taff was, uh, are you guys on the rest, man. Back up to be here any minute now because you can hear the, the sirens coming. And that's when David just, she blast, uh, Taff and he goes down and John just, oh, David, what did you do? Yeah, David, you shouldn't have done that. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:46:33 It's not looking good for you, David. Yeah, because he was just like, oh, man. And then David was like, come on, fuck him, man, let's go. And then he walks, or no, David goes to the van. He was getting ready to get it and goes like, come on, man, let's go. And John grabs Tafts radio and starts, we got a code three. We need ambulance and this and that. And he was, and then he was looking at him.
Starting point is 00:46:56 He goes, oh, David, I'm a cop. And he was, what the fuck you're talking about? And he goes, I'm a cop. And he was like, oh. This is probably the one thing. don't get he just you just watched him call in officer down yeah and then you just like you're a what you're why are you questioning it neither shoot him or try to get away something but you know the reflex was too slow or something because he just um he walks up on him and
Starting point is 00:47:25 the tap is already full of holes and he pumps in one more into him and then and that that's what kills him and that's when uh john gets up and they kind of have their little their little showdown. And then, um, that's right. Uh, he killed him.
Starting point is 00:47:42 He, he shoots, uh, Dave in the chest a couple times. Mm-hmm. And then, you think it was, uh,
Starting point is 00:47:47 ego why David didn't leave? Because how he, in the beginning thought John was a cop. I, I think, other, he was probably high as fuck on, on whatever,
Starting point is 00:48:03 whatever he was, trying to slang. But, Um, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't get why he just didn't. I mean, he saw it. He saw him called in and everything. And, and he flat out told him, I'm a cop. I don't know why he just didn't unload on John and just get in the van and take off.
Starting point is 00:48:22 But, but I just, I just figured he was so, so far gone and so fucked up and just so much happened so, so fast. Uh, I just assumed that he's had a brain fart and didn't really know what to do. because he was like, nah, you're not. Come on, just get in the car and let's go. Yeah, because he was kind of like, I think he even said, like, that doesn't matter. Just let's go. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:49 It was kind of weird. It was kind of, because it kind of does matter. The cops all show up. And then they, I don't think they arrested John, because I think that's when the DEA guy step. and they told him, I mean, Carver told him, look, man, you're going to have to go in front of that for those judges and tell everyone what happened.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And he goes, but what we want you to do is to go in there and just tell him your assignment and make us look good. So he was like, all right. But then I loved how he was, you know what? I want this and I want this and I want that and I want it all in writing. And I want my lawyer to look over it. Because they didn't want him to give up
Starting point is 00:49:40 Guzman. Uh-uh. Because they were working with him. Yeah. Yeah. So. Because they were the ones that saying they want him to run for president or something. So that's why the DEA was in on it with Guzman and those guys.
Starting point is 00:49:57 So he went in there. I mean, when John was sitting there in the court, and he did tell him, look okay this is what I was supposed to do and this is what I did and that's it I mean the DEA's department the department they they they look like the heroes but then that's when he turned around to gopher and is it here give me the tape and then he goes all right the real MVP of the movie go for even though he was sleeping in court though he said Steven produces a videotape of the incriminating conversation with Guzman at the shipyard during his testimony to the house judicious whatever subcommittee
Starting point is 00:50:41 Rooney in the state departments and tensions along with Guzman and Carver's careers So said later the he completes with what to do with 11 okay. That's for something else, but yeah, so that tape basically showed Guzman was dirty and in because they stood in the video when they show man you see them sniffing that coat and everything. So that's what he told him. Look, yeah, this is,
Starting point is 00:51:08 uh, this is the, the DEA and Guzmane were in cahoots. I loved how that one guy was like, no, this is, this is all nothing. We did just,
Starting point is 00:51:16 we're just going to seize that tape. And he said, yeah, go ahead. Seize that tape. He was like, go ahead. There's been,
Starting point is 00:51:22 there's been copies and there are already been, uh, distributed to the, to the news. So I want to know that guy's story. Yeah. Because he was like, get that tape.
Starting point is 00:51:32 So he was, he was, he was, was obviously in on it too. So, I mean, so I mean, and that was, that was it for them. I mean, they were pretty much all those people were going down.
Starting point is 00:51:45 The Carver and, and whoever else was involved in whoever that one guy was speaking up screaming, grabbed that tape, as well as Guzman and his crew. I mean, they all, they were all going down. Do you think he continued to be a cop? Or was that it? This is the end of his career.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Well, it says he kept 11 million of Gallegos' money. So I don't know. Because, I mean. And he had the little boy, too. Well, that's right. Because the mom died. She overdosed. So he had him.
Starting point is 00:52:21 But, I mean, they told him because they were saying, yeah. And he goes, well, what would you do with all that money? Because they were saying some of it was missing. And then he was like, I don't know what I was talking about. But yeah. he ended up keeping 11 million and he was like if I give it back to them I'm a fool or if I keep it I'm a fool if I try to do good with it he was like I don't know I think that's what he was going to try to do eventually
Starting point is 00:52:48 so I okay I assume at this point he was just his career as a police officer was done but he had 11 million dollars but I don't think he could run around and spend it Because I think that's when they would probably come after him. So I think he was going to do good with it. Give it to, I don't know, children's homes and all that. Yeah, he ends up walking off into the sunset with Betty and that little kid. Betty. She was just, she worked for David and she was laundering.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Yeah, she was laundering all the money. Because that's what they were going. that's what they were going to get her for. They said, look, man, she was laundering all this money. We're bringing her down too. But then that's when John goes, no, she needs to be let go and everything as well before I say anything. So they're like, all right. So that's what they agreed.
Starting point is 00:53:44 So she got, she got let go and everything. And she better stay with him forever because he, for not knowing her that long. He put a lot on the line. Because she was straight up with him in the beginning because I don't trust you. Yeah. I was like, bitch. Yeah, I mean, but this movie is awesome. I mean, we ran through the basic points of the film, but it's, this film is just a timeless classic.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I don't know how much it cost to make it, but they said it box off. It's 16.6 million. So is New Line Cinema still around? Yeah. Okay. I haven't seen them in a while, but. Well, we haven't been in the movies in a while. So hopefully
Starting point is 00:54:32 Maybe a year or so It'll calm down And get back into the theater New Lion Cinemas is a part of Warner Bros. You guys are crooks too But this movie's awesome I mean I love it It's definitely a true 90s classic
Starting point is 00:54:56 And just another awesome film that Lawrence Fishburn was a part of. Again, I would say this is probably my favorite film with him, him as well as Jeff Goldblum. Jeff Goldblum, again, when you see him, you just see the comedic side of him.
Starting point is 00:55:15 But, I mean, he did do some, some edgy roles because he was in the very first death wish, and he was one of the little street tuffs that raped Charles Bronson's daughter in the beginning of the film. him. Wasn't he,
Starting point is 00:55:30 credited as, like, rapist or something? Yeah, I think so. And he was also, I just, Oh, he was freak number one.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I just watched, um, uh, Donald Sutherland, their knee mooy, San Francisco, uh, invasion of the body snatchers.
Starting point is 00:55:49 He was in that, too. I mean, Jeff Goldblum has aged well. I mean, I don't think he went under the knife for any plastic surgery, but, yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:58 his hair got, Ray, but he almost looks the same. That was when I first seen him. But this film's awesome. Where was this streaming again? I don't remember. Cinemax?
Starting point is 00:56:12 Cinemax or stars, but I'm going to say Cinemax. Yeah, one of them. All right, everyone. This was Brian's pick. So I am going to give you my pick for the next stream fiends. Let me see if I can find it again.
Starting point is 00:56:32 All right. Well, here it is. It's on, it's free, but with ads on IMDB TV. And this is the 1990. Sticking in the 90s. 1990 Christopher Walkin and Lawrence Fishburn,
Starting point is 00:56:50 classic King in New York. I have not seen this in a while. That's funny. That was my next pick. Because, no, this came out after. No, no, no. King in New York was before a deep cover. If you guys have not seen that again,
Starting point is 00:57:11 it's streaming on IMDB TV with ads. I don't think they go overboard with the ads. I know in the beginning there's a few, but once you start watching films, they kind of just go away. but the movie isn't very long it's only hour and 43 minutes but this is definitely one
Starting point is 00:57:33 I mean I think this one was one of the old school blockbuster rentals because I remember well shit I don't want to get into I'll get into when we will start talking about it but yeah King of New York is for the next
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Starting point is 00:59:03 Everyone just hang on. And yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's all I got to say. But everyone, thank you for listening to everything we, Brian and I have done so far here on the Horror Returns Network, be it action returns. our bonus episodes. Definitely check that one out. If you guys haven't heard it
Starting point is 00:59:25 when we talked about the funeral home, I ended up watching that again because I was kind of confused with the ending and I'm still confused. But it's a good movie, everyone. Definitely check that out. And yeah, that's it for me. So just be safe out there and party on.
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