The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #11: King Of New York (1990)

Episode Date: March 26, 2021

This episode Brian and Nez head out to the Big Apple to join up with drug kingpin Frank White to help him become THE KING OF NEW YORK.    Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook....com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From here on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack, no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park. I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. It's my turn. You think you're going to live long enough to spend that money, you fucking hump? If any of you are tired of getting ripped off by guys like that,
Starting point is 00:00:45 you come with me. I'm at the Plaza Hotel. You're welcome. You're all welcome! A join. Everybody, welcome back to another episode of THR present stream themes. We are a spoiler cast and we review every and anything that is streaming currently. I'm your host, Brian.
Starting point is 00:01:28 With me as always, this is my brother Nez. What's up, man? Yo, man, before we get into this, man, I just got to give props to my brother here for just all the footwork he does. I know I've said this before on one of the shows we do. I don't know. We do so many. Dude, we've been getting a lot of traffic on Facebook as well as our download numbers. Damn.
Starting point is 00:01:55 And it's all to you. It's all because of you. I don't, I mean, I promote as much as I can. I can't say anything for the Zsie, but, man, I appreciate it, brother. Man, thank you so much. I mean, for those you that do listen, thank you. And if you're new to E society and everything else, thank you so much. And we got more and more.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Of course, you're going to hear Brian. He's also part of the E society. So I kind of want to do what the geeks do. Shout out to the League of Geeks and get a jumpstart on our 31 days of horror. Yeah, I was thinking that. We were supposed to do that last year. And then we were kind of day by day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I mean, it was fun. I mean, every, every night doing it. but I think we should try to at least get a bunch of them out of the way. I don't know. Just letting you guys know what's coming for October. But we are here. THR. Present Stream Fiends.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And we are going back to 1990 for the crime drama directed by Abel Ferreira. And this is Christopher Walkins, King of New York. Frank White is a free man. How come you never came to see me? Who wanted to see you in a cage, man? He served his time. What can we expect from the reformed Frank White? I want to be made.
Starting point is 00:03:34 He paid his debt. Go someplace where he can stay out of trouble. But some things don't change. From here on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack, no dope deals, no nothing. They're waiting years for this. I know what you're up to wait, forget it. I'm going to make you any friends disappear long before that.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Are you arresting me? Frank's Park Avenue attorney can get him out in ten minutes. Ten minutes later. I feel no remorse. I got a quarter million dollar contract on anyone involved in this case. The cops tried to stop him their way. I'm not your problem. I'm just the businessman.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Now they'll have to do it his way. There's only one way to get Frank. Christopher Walgan King of New York expected to get away with killing all these people I never killed anybody that didn't deserve
Starting point is 00:04:40 A psychotic drug lord leaves prison bent On sharing his profits With the poor But finds that the streets Are tougher than when he left And there is no way of washing The blood from his dirty money
Starting point is 00:04:57 Hmm Okay, that was Google Let's go over to IMDB Ah, one sentence a drug kingpin is released from prison and seeks to take total control of the criminal underworld in order to give back to the community I kind of like that way Did he give back
Starting point is 00:05:14 Well in a way he did I mean well we'll get into it in a minute But um Ryan King of New York What'd you think of this and when was the first time you had seen this one? I I was kind of late to this one.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I actually, because of rest in peace, notorious B.I.G. I used to always refer to himself as the black, Frank White. And I was just like, who was Frank White? Did some research. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:05:50 oh, King of New York. Christopher walking, you know, Lawrence Fishburn. I was like, how did this one slip by? And so I watched it. And yeah, loved it. You know, I love the performance from Christopher Walkin
Starting point is 00:06:04 There's a lot of Like if you don't know the actor's name You probably seen him in a bunch of movies There's a lot of those actors in this movie But my favorite character is probably Lawrence Fishburn Just his portrayal of What was his character's name?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Jimmy Jump Yeah And of course this is back This is Wasn't Lawrence Fishman This was old Larry Fishburn when he was doing these kind of roles. And yeah, I just love the story. It moves fast, too, because I haven't seen it in a while.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And then when it got to a certain scene, I'm like, oh, we're almost to the end. You know, it flows really, really fast. And I like that. You know, they kind of let you know who Frank White is, what he's trying to do, who he's up against. And it's just kind of straightforward. love the performances. I used to have a crush on Teresa Randall
Starting point is 00:07:08 and you know she pops up as one of Frank White's ladies in this and it's always nice to see her and yeah, love this movie. Yeah, there is a ton of well-known faces
Starting point is 00:07:26 in this. I mean, this is all in the beginning of kind of like a lot of their careers. Christopher Walken Of course Academy Award winner He's already been around the block many times David Caruso This is when he Yeah he's an actor
Starting point is 00:07:41 But I think he wasn't quite to the What was that movie that he went to do He left that TV show To do a movie I think of a kiss of death or something Then thought he was going to be some huge Movie star which he should have stayed With that TV show
Starting point is 00:07:59 but he's done plenty of roles so it was good to see him i haven't even thought about him in forever i don't know let me i take that back i watched first blood recently and he's in that but of course he had larry fishburn we got victor argot wesley snipes a uh gus frank or um who was his name of mandolian grief carg no grief cargo was paulo creed of god damn it somebody is yelling right now i'm sure i'm sure the zesos is yellow Um God damn Mof Gideon
Starting point is 00:08:36 There you go I was gonna pull it up John John Carlo Esposito A lot of you guys know him as Gus Frank and for all you Mandolian fans
Starting point is 00:08:45 Steve Bouchemi A young Steve Bouchemey I forgot he was in this until he popped up on the screen Paul Calderon he's in this What's his name from Deep Cover Roger
Starting point is 00:08:59 Gwynavir Smith he pops up yeah and Teresa Randall always good look at when she pops up in this and then there's just
Starting point is 00:09:08 like a ton of other people in this film but how I came across this one this was back in the good old block blockbuster VHS rental days
Starting point is 00:09:21 this was a film that from what I understand wasn't in the theater if it was it was probably maybe those little small art house theaters
Starting point is 00:09:31 but they had, I think, one copy at Blockbuster, and it was always out. I didn't know nothing about it until some guys came in, hey, man, you got King of New York? And I said, no, it's out. And they're like, oh, man, we've been dying to see it. And I just, like, overheard them. So I kind of walked over and I found the box and I looked at it, read it, and I'm, oh, Christopher Walkins, and it sounds good.
Starting point is 00:09:56 A couple weeks later, it was finally there. So I'm like, all right, man, let me, uh, Get this since this is what everyone's talking about. A friend of mine, he'd seen it already and said, yeah, that it was good. So I'm like, all right, cool. I trust him. So I throw it in. You can definitely see that this film has been watched a billion times because
Starting point is 00:10:19 there was a lot of the little fuzziness of VHS tapes. For you younger listeners, you probably don't know what we're talking about. But when you play a tape forever, too many times, it gets these stop and rewind marks. So there was plenty of that throughout the film. It didn't take me out of the film. But when it was over, I was like, damn, man, that was hell of good. And then it hit the HBO's and Cinemaxes. And I think that's when a lot more people.
Starting point is 00:10:51 That's when a lot of my friends saw it because I was telling them about this film. And they tried to go to our blockbuster. and there was always, it was never there. Finally, somebody rented it and just never brought it back. So they didn't get one for a long time. And after a while, they ended up getting a few more copies. So, but I love this film. I have not watched it in a really long time.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I just picked it up on Blu-ray. But I ended up watching it on IMDB TV with ads. Oh, man, there was just too many ads in this. one for me. Is there like a pay? No ads for IMDB? Do you know? I think it's
Starting point is 00:11:35 strictly the way it is free. I watched mine on 2B, which you get it seems like on 2B you get most of the ads up front. The first half of the movie and then there's hardly no ads for the rest of the movie. At least when the ads popped up on this one, it was in a
Starting point is 00:11:55 good spot for an ad. not like right in the middle of a sentence and I hate when they do that. Some TV channels do that shit too. But yeah, this movie, I mean, I was all about it,
Starting point is 00:12:07 man. This was the, probably filmed in 89, a young, Christopher Walken. And I just loved what he did. I mean, his acting style,
Starting point is 00:12:21 he can do comedy. He can be serious. He can be scary and everything. I mean, if you guys have seen the prophecy films or his performance as a headless horseman and Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow and he's all over
Starting point is 00:12:36 the acting spectrum. When he pops up in these movies, you're like, oh man, it's good for walking. This and that. Even if he just does little small bit parts, I mean, he's good, but this one it was good. I mean, I totally bought his character because on how he is. He just
Starting point is 00:12:54 kind of goes with the flow and And he means business. I mean, because that's what this story was. Because he was, they never really went. Did they ever go into why he was in prison? I mean, we off because he was doing dirt. But. Yeah, it just kind of got out.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Nobody ever spoke about it. Didn't even really say how long. I don't think he was really in. And he just got straight back to business. Yeah, because says right here, Frank White, a drug lord is riding in New York. city in the limousine after being released from Rikers Island. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And then he ends up, uh, yeah, he just went right back into business. And then, because at the beginning scene, we see, uh, Jimmy the jump is that what his name was? Yeah, um, Lawrence Larry Fishburn, his character and all his crew, they're dealing with some, um, like Puerto Ricans or no, Colombian, uh, in, uh, in, uh, some airport hotel they were doing a drug buy. Yeah, King Tito.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah. But we skipped the scene. I fucking think this scene's stupid. When they shoot the one guy in the phone booth, Amelia L. Zappa, I think it's so, why did they show him
Starting point is 00:14:17 a picture of Frank in the newspaper and Frank did this or Frank sends his regards or something? Like the guy, dead. I don't know. I kind of seemed stupid. I think it was more of just this is this is the beginning. This is this is the calling card.
Starting point is 00:14:37 This is who did it. And we know why. Are they, they know why. I think it was one of those type of things. Yeah, it would have been better for me if they would have just left the newspaper on him. Like, yeah, like you said, this movie is really short. It's only a hundred and three minutes long. It goes by quick. Like this happens that.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Edmonds, credits are rolling. I mean, I think if this film was made today, this would be one of those two and a half hour pushing three hour movies. Because they would probably try to throw a lot in. But this sense is being a small time independent type film. I think that's probably why they just shortened it. Christopher Walken probably got most of the money out of this budget. But yeah, they just roll up on that fool and just gun him down.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I mean, there was a lot of, I mean, if you ever been to New York City or if you live over there, awesome city, I love going there. Can't wait to go back. There is cops everywhere. But maybe that's because of 9-11. But then again, I don't know. I went there,
Starting point is 00:15:53 geez, I can't even remember. It was way after 9-11. And I did notice that there was a lot of police presence, like everywhere I went. Because these guys just roll around, gun up, everyone shoot guns in there,
Starting point is 00:16:07 no cops around. Nope. The most you see, cops is near the end at the funeral. Yeah. And they weren't even really useful at that moment either. I don't think anyone had good. I saw one with a gun.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Everyone else was just looking around. But we'll get to that in a minute. So, yeah, they gun up one of the rivals. Obviously, one of the dope game guys that they were trying to just rub out. So Frank comes out, meets his crew. When I first saw this, because we just saw Jimmy the jump and all his gang gun this full down. And then we see Frank in his hotel. room and then these guys all come walking in all loked out and again you got to love the 90s
Starting point is 00:16:59 clothing we talked about it when we did deep cover but this I mean especially um jimmy the jump man this the little derby hat the big gold chains did you ever rock those big things I had a few chains but I always wanted the the big fat the dukey gold gold rope chain I never I never got it though but I had some I had some back in the day I was never much of a jewelry person I didn't ever wear necklaces or anything um but if someone gave me one of those would I rock it today maybe all right I'm looking at a picture right now Jimmy the Joe I got the loks on the can go leather jacket big thick well I mean he his changed like changed throughout the film. He had the big thick
Starting point is 00:17:53 ropes in the beginning and then he had the big thick flat ones and everything and then the big nuggets on his hands and the big diamond earrings and everything so but uh he he played the part. I mean he
Starting point is 00:18:09 fit the role. I mean it's it's funny and it's weird seeing Morpheus Larry Fishburn Lawrence Bishopbird uh was the king of the ghetto or King and
Starting point is 00:18:22 John Wick yeah I mean and he's pops on blackish seeing him in these roles I mean he like he does awesome roles this role is tough
Starting point is 00:18:38 rough as gangster undercover cop and deep cover um furious styles and boys in the hood when he was just legit I think I love that role as well but this one man
Starting point is 00:18:49 he's just Yeah, he fits the part. I mean, he did it. I mean, did he overdo it in some scenes? Yeah, but, I mean, it was still cool. I liked what he did. It seemed like he was the main one that did all the talking. Everyone else, all the crew, they were there, but no one really said much.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah, it kind of seemed like everybody, there was like levels to their crew and everybody kind of fell in line. Yeah, he was definitely the leader. out of all the henchmen and everything. So, I mean, he was really cool. Because when he comes rolling in all suave and holding his chan and drinking his drink. And then Frank Wack just comes walking around. They're just looking at him. What are you drinking?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Oh, this root beer. And then Frank gets into that. I love Christopher walking. He's always dancing in some form in these films. But his little crew. crazy dance moves to hype up his boy. I don't know. I just never really liked this scene.
Starting point is 00:19:56 It just didn't fit. But, I mean, he's back. He's happy. Everybody was good to see him. But, I mean, but he was straight up, man. After he got his crew together and everyone and they were telling him, yeah, okay, well, here's, what was the calling me a guy's name? King Tito.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And I think the, I think the drugs came. from King Tito and the money came from Emilio Zappa. Because they were like, yeah, okay, well, King Tito's dead. So, yeah, that's out of the way. Because that was pretty much the beginning of his reign of terror to take over in New York. Because he's like, all right, because I love that scene,
Starting point is 00:20:41 but in the beginning, the drug deal, when they was like, all right, man, when they were testing it and everything. And then he, all right, well, where's the money? So he handed him a brief. briefcase full of whatever and he opened it up and it was nothing but those um tampon the long ones the long applicator tam compound thingies they're all the same in me but he's like what is this for and he goes for the bullet holes and then he just he just lights him up i thought that was cool he always had some good shit to say before he started blasted fools i mean he he was talking shit not to jump forward
Starting point is 00:21:20 but he was talking of shit all the way to the end. So I thought that was cool. So that's how they got the money and the drugs and everything. Because, okay, after he kind of laid down what was happening, he, they went to the, were those guys Italians? Yeah, they sent that one guy, what is this, his name, Delicio to Little Italy to basically, let him know that Frank wants to sit down.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And this is the second movie in a row where we have not only Lawrence Fishburn, Larry Fishburn, but somebody getting pissed on. Oh. Yeah, I don't know about that, man. That's, to me, that's just pure, pure disrespect right there. Yeah, that fool rolls up in there. What was his name Joey?
Starting point is 00:22:22 Was it Joey Delicio? Is that what you said? Yeah. I think that's his name. Because he went in and told those full, though. There were like some mafia guys. Um, who says, uh, mafia boss, Artie Clay. I assume that's who it was.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Because he's rolling in there talking to him telling him. Tell him, yeah, Frank's back and he wants to sit down with you. Um, what do you always? Oh, you tell that guy I don't deal with, uh, inward lovers. I mean, of course, the race, the racist remarks,
Starting point is 00:22:55 I have to fly with these gangster films. Because I ain't talking to them. And maybe he's got, didn't fucking, too much been fucked up in the ass in jail. And then he goes, here, this is what I tell on this.
Starting point is 00:23:09 And he pulls a dick out and peas all over him. He was ready to go with that. Yeah. I mean, he usually takes you a second before it to come out, unless you had to go. I mean, you see some guy,
Starting point is 00:23:21 fat guy sticking his hand and you step back. So, but he pees on his feet and he's like, all right, man, I'll tell him. So that's when he goes back and let Frank know what's up. They were,
Starting point is 00:23:35 no, they were at, uh, at, um, was that some kind of benefit dinner that they were having? Because they were talking about, uh,
Starting point is 00:23:45 doing renovations to the new, to a, uh, an old, um, The thing was a children's hospital or just a big hospital. Yeah, he went up to, what was that guy's, uh,
Starting point is 00:23:59 fucking name, uh, Eddie from deep cover. Oh, um, I know, I keep clicking off everything. Well,
Starting point is 00:24:16 Eddie from deep cover. They, he went up to him. I'm assuming he's like some kind of politician and he was asking him, why is there no money? There's money for this, but why? there's no money to
Starting point is 00:24:26 fix this hospital it's children's hospital and then he basically tells Frank how much it costs and why don't you come up with the money yourself and Frank's basically like maybe I will and I think he said something like you say like 500 million or something
Starting point is 00:24:43 I think it would be like 6th yeah 500 million uh he said no no no whoa I'm jumping ahead um I thought he said like 15 million or something or 15 16 million and something like that.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Yeah, he said something like that. To something else later. It was, yeah, it was going to cause that to fix up the hospital. There's already a hospital there, but they want to make it better because it's just run down. And he wanted to, well, his, Frank's idea was to make it an affordable medical care for everyone, not just the privileged and basically not for the rich people. I mean, rich people can go there, but it seemed like that hospital, if you were poor or whatever and you couldn't pay your bill, they didn't want you. They would send you to county general or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I mean, that thing right there, I mean, that is true in a lot of cities. I mean, it sucks. I mean, I don't know why some other countries can have all this free medical care. And here it's like you got to sell your firstborn kid to take. get a whatever a checkup. I mean, it's crazy. You got to lose something to get something. I know, man.
Starting point is 00:26:03 It just seems like these guys, these higher ups in the, in the, in the, in the, not, not the doctors or anything, but the, the, the, the people that run these hospitals. It seems like they're just, um, they just want money. I mean, if you, if you're not going to pay for our services and all that, then you can't come here. I mean, because it was a situation on my life to where it was like. well we can't we can't do nothing for you then this is the end so uh you got to get out and i'm like i bet if i had all this money you guys wouldn't care i mean i mean it's i don't want to get into all that but i mean that's that's what it seems like frank was was against he wanted to help this hospital uh was this all in manhattan it seemed like it went in manhattan then
Starting point is 00:26:51 went to like brooklyn and everywhere else yeah i think it kind of bounced all around because he was throughout the movie. I think he's just knocking off whoever's running the different boroughs of New York. Yeah, because, so that was his main, his main thing was to get that hospital up and running
Starting point is 00:27:13 and affordable health care for everybody. So that's why they, I mean, even Eddie, whatever the hell his name was. Tanner, Tanner. Yeah, he was, he was in that. I thought he was hardly, in this. I thought he would be
Starting point is 00:27:29 dirty because no, this was before deep cover. But anyway, so that was the whole idea for the hospital and then what's going to cost this much money? And he's like, well, all right, man, I'll get it for you in a
Starting point is 00:27:45 couple days. So that's when Frank goes on onto the all right, I need to start kicking ass and taking names. Because after he left, because during this party, that's when he told his, his
Starting point is 00:28:01 delisio or however he say his name, to go to talk to the, to the mafia dudes. He had sent him there from the party. And then he went back. He crewed up. And then they rolled into Clay's social club. This is what they call it.
Starting point is 00:28:24 This is my favorite part in the whole film. I played that clip in the beginning of this episode. But man, he came in there and was just like, all right, hey guys, what's up? And laid it down. Like, look, nothing goes down in this city and that I'm not a part of. And no dope deals, no, or if there's a dope deal or a card game or anything, anything that makes money, he goes, he wants in. He wants a cut of it. And then he was just laying the rules down on him.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And then the, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the big, the big boss was like, he goes, do you think you're going to live long enough to spend that money? You fucking hump. I love how, because Frank just walks away and then he just stops. And then just turns around really quick, pulls out his gun, just guns just guns him down. And he fucking was going off. And you guys are tired of getting ripped off by fucks like this? come see me
Starting point is 00:29:27 you're welcome you're all welcome but that last shot when he walks away the joint I was like oh yeah because that was that was a scene right there that before I saw this film my friends that had seen it or listening to other guys talk about it they all talked about that scene and then when I finally saw it
Starting point is 00:29:48 I was like fuck man that was awesome I mean that that's the scene I can watch over and over again because just Christopher Walker's performance, he just walks close to the camera, stops, you can see, he's just like, this motherfucker
Starting point is 00:30:03 the look on his face and then just turns around and bites his lip and just fills him up full of holes. Obviously, those other guys, I don't know if they, were they part of his crew or were they just other? They were with Clay,
Starting point is 00:30:19 but Frank said if anybody wants to come earn come with me and then the two guys looked at each other and like, well, fuck, might as well. And I just went with them. Yeah, because they just, I mean, I don't know much about the mafia, but from what I've seen in movies.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I don't know that world, but my knowledge is movies. A lot of my knowledge I learned is from movies and TV, everyone. If you didn't know that by now. But I figured him dusting off I'm sure he was a made guy I'm surprised other families didn't
Starting point is 00:31:00 come try to battle him I mean I figure maybe if this film was longer than an hour and 40 something minutes maybe they probably would have yeah it seems like when he would knock off a main guy there was no retaliation from anybody
Starting point is 00:31:18 yeah because after he took this guy out I mean, there's a lot of things It just played out throughout the film But Uh His rise to being King of New York was taken out I mean, his rivals
Starting point is 00:31:35 The other The other crime families Because then he rolls to Chinatown And uh, no, no, no, he sends Delicia to over there to talk to, um I guess he was a triad leader, Larry Wong. Yeah, he need to send some somebody else other than delisio because everybody's he's coming like frank said this and they're
Starting point is 00:31:57 like man fuck you tell frank i said fuck you delisio i don't know if he's supposed to convince these people or what but it's not working i think he was more of just he was uh uh he had a cool head because he didn't go off after that got pissed on him and uh after this after long told him to go fuck himself. I mean, he just kind of went, all right. Because they were sitting in a movie theater and watching that old
Starting point is 00:32:26 Nosferatu film. Yeah. And sure you want to stick around? We got Frankenstein up next. Speaking of Nosferatu, it's a classic film and and I love it. But man,
Starting point is 00:32:41 is it boring? But, I mean, what was that kiss of the vampire? That one was good, but because it was in color and they were talking. But, um, so yeah, I mean, he's, because he's that, that Wong is just sitting there, uh, in the theater and they're watching the movies and he's got his little hit guys and his, and his women.
Starting point is 00:33:06 And they were like, yeah, well, this is, this is the deal. He goes, if you guys want my drugs, it costs this much. If you don't fuck off. Yeah, why, why does he tell them I have three million dollars worth of cocaine? and I have it here with me. I'm like, what are you doing? What is the name?
Starting point is 00:33:27 Larry Wong, triad leader. What are you doing, man? Come on. It says, ROS, okay, descends to Chinatown, talks to triad leader,
Starting point is 00:33:38 Larry Wong, who has $3 million worth of cocaine. Frank tells him to bring $15 million when he sells it on the street. Larry demands $3 million up front and another $500,000 after the drugs. are sold. Because, yeah, after he tells him, I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:55 I'm not a big crime or drug lord, but don't tell everyone what you got. Just say, I got it. If you want it from me, because he did tell, look, man, this is the price, take it or leave it. If you want it, all right, but don't try to threaten him.
Starting point is 00:34:11 But he never really threatening it. It always seemed like at least you just came over to, all right, I'm a representative. and then these guys just everybody pissed on them and then tell him the fuck off and this and that then he goes back and tells Frank what's up and then they
Starting point is 00:34:27 fucking like all right you guys want to play hardball cool and they roll in the chat oh they roll in in the limo first the limo comes rolling in and uh what's the uh uh what's teresa randells
Starting point is 00:34:44 ray she comes popping out the top of the limo. These girls were all down. They weren't just hot and just eye candy for all these gangsters. Man, they fucking, she popped out of the top machine gunned and just started
Starting point is 00:35:00 gunning down all the triad gang members. And, man, Frank White as well. I mean, he didn't just give the orders and then hang back and send this soldiers. He even jumped in.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Because Wesley or Jimmy jumped jumps out and he's firing off two rounds and um fucking what is John Carlos name Lance?
Starting point is 00:35:27 I don't even remember I only heard Jimmy jump I don't even know anyone else's name uh was in this Steve Bouchemi was test tube because I guess he was the one
Starting point is 00:35:36 always testing the drugs did he would they show him have any gunfire? I don't yeah the only one I really remember is in the beginning when they killed King Tito he was shooting at people. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And that one guy came in all corny when he was like, room service motherfucker. I don't like that guy. He was in, do the right thing. He was one of, one of those guys that were just hanging out there. And he's,
Starting point is 00:36:09 he's one of those dudes. Oh, I know that guy. He's been in a bunch of movies. And he just, yeah. He like overacts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Even like the. scene where they jumping ahead, but when a few of them get arrested and then they get bailed out by Frank's lawyer and then he's telling the guy to kiss his ass and he's shown his ass and it just
Starting point is 00:36:31 felt overdone from him. Yeah, because when they when they leave, Jimmy Jump pulls out money and throws, hey, black man, and then throws money and here's some, buy some flowers for your witness. And then
Starting point is 00:36:48 that other dude what the hell was his name I know what you're talking about him the overactive guy he walks up get some cheap ones and takes I'm like oh man come on that was a gross scene though yeah
Starting point is 00:37:05 it's so Larry got spitting Larry's face and he like tastes it like fuck all that I don't mean I mean not in just this film any any movie where someone get spit on.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Sometimes these actors go that extra level and really take that spit to the face or whatever. Fuck that. I mean, I don't know. I don't think I could. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:37:37 it was nasty because he he wipes it over his lips and then tastes it. I don't know. Fuck all that. I'll shot someone. So,
Starting point is 00:37:48 yeah, after they gunned up all the the triads. That's another thing I'll get to that in the second. The leader, Wong, what the hell was his first name? I can't remember. Larry.
Starting point is 00:38:02 He goes running down back into under wherever their hangout is. And then Christopher Wall, he was hiding, Wong was hiding around the corner and then one of his boys came around. He bluts, shoots him in the chest. It's like, oh, fuck. It's one of my guys. And then that's when, uh,
Starting point is 00:38:20 Jimmy Jump comes out And then Frank White comes in And they end up I asked did they just kill him Or did they just hang him upside down? Yeah, they killed him Yeah, because we see These guys that we see
Starting point is 00:38:34 Frank and his crew They're carrying out the Well, they had one of these big giant Canisters It was like one of those cardboard canisters Just take that thick hard cardboard And it was just full of Coke And they were the big big like barrels
Starting point is 00:38:49 So they were They were hauling those out there. And then the camera kind of goes up and you see Wong hanging from the rafters. Were they going to, I know they were supposed to do drug deals with other people, but they never really did anything. I mean, people. Not so the end. Not to the end. That seemed the only time they were even attempting to do any kind of deal.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah, because they like, they had all this Coke. and I assume this is this is how he was going to get the money but I think the hospital already got the money. I don't know. I don't know how we got it because I always took it as I think they were trying to dump everything at once and not just kind of. Because they never seemed like they was in the drug game. And I think they were just trying to make one big deal. Yeah, because I don't think he had his guys out there slanging or nothing. I mean, it was just, they were big business and that was it.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Because in the beginning, when Jimmy and gentlemen, those guys were with the Colombians, they were going to buy the drugs from them. So, but I think that was just more of, okay, we're going to buy it, but then they ended up killing them and just took it. So that's what they did with the triad gang. They were rolled in there, killed everybody. I mean, when Frank White busted out, man, he pulled out his, machine gun and just started gunning up the women.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I was like, damn. I mean, nobody was safe on those streets. So after they killed that whole little triad gang, the triad gang, from my, again, my knowledge from movies, there's not just one organization in a city. There's, because when you watch those,
Starting point is 00:40:50 shoot them up, the John Wu films, I mean, there was always different triad families or however you want to call them, or maybe these guys are the only ones in New York. And if they were, they seemed like they were a little small-time guys. So. Yeah, again, you would think there would be some kind of retaliation. But I guess, I guess Frank put the fear in the mafia and the triad, I guess.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Yeah, because, I mean, yeah, there was no retaliation. I mean, it doesn't take anything away from the film, but when you sit there and think about it, only because of all these other films we've seen. If somebody gets hit, all right, then they come rolling back with someone else. So they end up taking all their Coke. There was a kind of a little love story,
Starting point is 00:41:41 not really, but with Frank and that was his lawyer, right? Yeah, so it was so gross. They're a little scene in the subway when they're like tongue in each other. yeah I mean good for you man get yours
Starting point is 00:41:57 yeah yeah it just it just looked awkward it did it mean I
Starting point is 00:42:04 actors Christopher Walker was probably enjoying it a little bit more than than this young woman yeah because I've
Starting point is 00:42:12 I've read stuff that he's he's like a really weird guy especially like on set I believe it um what was that
Starting point is 00:42:23 girl's name. She wasn't Jennifer, was it? Jennifer seems like that would have been the one blonde girl. I think that was her. I'm not sure. Every now and then someone was calling her counselor. But yeah, what's his name was in this?
Starting point is 00:42:46 Yeah, her name was Jennifer. Okay. The guy from Lost. what's his name is that his name he was in Lost and he was in yeah that's his name he was in
Starting point is 00:43:03 what was that prison show on oh I was yeah Harold Perry now yeah he was a young subway bugger he's his name he's a thug leader
Starting point is 00:43:15 yeah this was a good scene because they think they're going to rob Frank and he just pull it. He doesn't even pull out the gun. He shows him. They're just like, oh, okay. Then he throws him a lot of money and tells him I'm at the plaza.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Ask for Frank White. And you don't see him no more. So apparently, once he found out who it was, he was like, fuck that. Gone. He popped up. He joined the crew. Did he? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Because it was. He must have got killed right away. No. He got killed. towards the end. It was after all the, I think it was after the, the triad stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:02 They were at one of, it was when they were all partying, like in some warehouse or something. No, no, no. No, no. Let me jump forward. They were in his hotel room. And all those guys were in there and they were taught,
Starting point is 00:44:17 he was talking, and Frank was talking to his lawyer. You see, um, uh, to, who wasn't it? Thug leader. You see him standing off on the side,
Starting point is 00:44:27 kind of leaning up against the wall because he did show up. They show him in the hotel. So he was there and he was kind of just hanging out. Like I assume I'm sure he was probably just a gopher. But all during this, there was,
Starting point is 00:44:45 the police officers were trying to take him down. The leader of, I think he was, I assume he was sergeant of Victor Argo he played Roy Bishop He had I think he
Starting point is 00:45:00 I think he had the He was probably the the officer The brought Frank White down That was probably why he He went to prison because you saw that there was Some kind of There was something there between them two That's why they had history
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah Because it seemed like it was more personal With the cop Roy Bissom So, I mean, they never really went into it, but how he was acting and everything. He, because that's what he wanted to do because he was like Frank Wax getting out of jail. I got to bring him down because I know he's going to be doing dirt once he gets out. So he had his crew. It was it was Bishop.
Starting point is 00:45:41 It was David Caruso, Dennis Gilley, Wesley Snipes character, Thomas Flanagan. And then there was another one. It was a younger guy. Yeah, which he was a. David Caruso's younger brother Oh, okay Because yeah, because he They show a wedding scene
Starting point is 00:45:58 With that I mean just to show that all these cops are tight and everything Yeah So they had them And I did like that scene Because David Caruso's basically explain them Why they're so pissed off Is because they basically
Starting point is 00:46:16 They play by the rules And they can't ever bust him And he just just get he he he now frame goes against the law and he's constantly getting away with everything and they're they're doing what they're supposed to do and they never get anywhere with anything yeah they were they weren't they weren't they weren't above the law they were just they were just trying to just do everything by the book and uh to them it was just it was getting them nowhere and they were just finally getting fed up um i've never been a cop i for a lot of friends that are
Starting point is 00:46:51 but I'm sure that job's frustrating. I mean, especially now with what's going on in the world. But, I mean, but yeah, they, I could,
Starting point is 00:47:02 I can see them. Like, man, we're fucking, we're out here doing what we have to do to bring bad guys to, to justice. And they just, the justice system just keeps letting them go.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I mean, what's his name? Nino Brown said it the best in New Jack City, which will eventually cover. he because he told me he went that I mean he of course he was going down
Starting point is 00:47:27 for his crime but then he was like he was letting them all know what was up because it was it was the law he was going by law he was using the law to help him
Starting point is 00:47:37 and I think that's what Frank and all these guys were doing that's why they kept getting away with everything yeah he did go to prison for a while
Starting point is 00:47:45 but they I don't know how long he was in there I'm sure they wanted him to be in there like forever because I'm sure they could link him up to all kinds of murders and everything else, but they just, they just couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:47:59 So they probably caught him for, I don't know, maybe drug possession or something. And that's why he was in prison. So we got all these cops that are just getting pissed off as it's going on. And Roy Bishop is the one that's leading them. And he seemed to be the one to, we need to do this by the book. I think David Caruso and Wesley Snipes And the other guys were like No fuck that
Starting point is 00:48:27 We we got to bring we know he's dirty We got to bring him down Yeah because he tells him He was like you know how this is going to get done And he tells David Caruso What was his name? Dennis he tells Dennis If you guys go that way
Starting point is 00:48:43 I'll bust you Yeah Because They um When they Who they killed they killed someone
Starting point is 00:48:55 and they had a witness was it the Colombian guy in the beginning yeah they had one of those I think it was King Tito and this is a scene where they kind of you think they're arresting Frank but they take him like to some
Starting point is 00:49:10 parking lot somewhere and then they opened a trunk and they for some reason they have King Tito's body in there and he's just kind of like prove it. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:49:24 he didn't even like, Frank knows he didn't do it. He's like, well, he got nothing on me. I didn't do it. But yeah, they showed him the dead body in the trunk.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Like, how long has his body been in the trunk? It looked like it'd been there a while. Because he looked like he was turning gray. So, um, the part I liked, uh,
Starting point is 00:49:48 well, they couldn't, they, I think that, I think that was more of just a warning. Look. we're on to you and we're going to bring you down because they just ended up letting him go.
Starting point is 00:49:58 But after this scene, Jimmy Jump, Lay Fishburne, he was in a restaurant trying to get to my food and everything. It seemed like they cooked everything in there. And he just came, hey, give me this, give me 15 wings, give me eight spare ribs, give me some this and shrimp and all that.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And the guy that was running behind the counter there was some little kids in there they were having lunch and they just wanted to play video games and that guy behind the count was hey man you have no money get away from there and Jimmy Jim's like looks at him what the fuck's mad with you and then he walks over him
Starting point is 00:50:35 hey here this is for you guys get them something to eat and gives them all quarters yeah I don't know why this is probably the most memorable scene because he was like you what you got to drink you got birch beer you probably don't even know what that is I mean, those guys must have been quick with his order
Starting point is 00:50:54 Because they just immediately stuck two big bags on the counter And then he goes, oh, how much is this? Well, that's $57. All right, man, fuck you very much. But as he's in there, we see the cops outside roll up. I think it was some black and whites and then Caruso and the gang. And Wesley. Oh, a bishop as well because they come kicking in the back door.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And they all come running in because Wesley tries to run. No, um, Wesley. Jimmy Jump tries to run and he like throws the bags at him And then they just grab him and slam him on the counter Yeah Some reason Wesley's name is Thomas Flanagan They said something about his name
Starting point is 00:51:35 When they were at the wedding Like yeah you're the only dark Flanagan I assume Flanagan's an Irish name or something I don't know they did something like that But They slam him on the They slam a Jimmy jump on the counter and they go,
Starting point is 00:51:52 oh, man, you get a little old man. He goes, we got a witness. He goes, I don't leave no witnesses. He goes, ah, well, you got one now. So they took Jimmy jump and all his crew and then threw them in jail. And this is when that scene when Frank finds out that his guys are in jail. And they go down there and get them. It was then cost like a million, a million dollar bond to get them.
Starting point is 00:52:19 each to get them out. And they were like, all right, man, just pay it and get them out. So they roll down there and they get them out. Did, well, did they, did they kill that witness? I don't know. Just, this witness kind of disappeared. Yeah, because that's when they come out.
Starting point is 00:52:45 And they're like, yeah, and they're all happy and everything. And as Jimmy and the guys are coming out, here come Bishop and the crew. They come rolling in to the police station. And that's when they're when Dennis, David Cruz, so spits on Jimmy Jump. Yes. Oh, fuck all that. And then the whole kiss my ass and all that shit. And I think, yeah, Bishop was mad because Frank wins again, gets his guys out.
Starting point is 00:53:16 But I think this was the, this was. was it. I think, uh, I think, um, David Caruso was the leader of this, uh, of these cops when they, uh, when they go rogue. Because he was like, fuck that. He goes, we got to do it. And that's when Bishop told him, look, if you guys do this, I'm gonna bust you too, but, mm-hmm, they're like, well, we just won't tell you. Um, because that's when, uh, we get to the, the scene when they're all partying and, uh, dancing around, uh, and everything. Uh, and everything. everything. They were they were going to do a deal
Starting point is 00:53:52 with someone else. I don't even know who those dudes were. They were undercover. Delisio. Delisio had set up the deal. All right. Because yeah, because two of them came and then they were like, yeah, and everybody was in their party. And Frank was there. Yeah, because he
Starting point is 00:54:14 was talking on the phone. and all the girls are not really topless, but whatever they're wearing is open and everyone's dancing hell of hard. I don't know what that song was, but I did like it. It would probably be a good dance song, but not.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I'm too fat to be swinging my fat ass like that anymore. Because, yeah, that thug leader guy, a guy from Lost, he was out there all faded dancing hell hard too. So, um, Uh, one of them was downstairs and they took a none, they took another, oh, no, no, no, they asked him, okay, well, we'll buy it for you. He goes, well, where is it?
Starting point is 00:54:54 Oh, we got it next door. So they took, uh, that guy over there and, I goes, all right, man, well, I'll leave this dude here. And, uh, and I'll be back. I'll go see the drugs or whatever. So he left. And the other guy with the long hair that some girls grabbed him, took him up upstairs, I guess. because then she was putting coke on his stomach and getting ready to sniff a line off him. Yeah, he was deep undercover.
Starting point is 00:55:23 He was about to bang her on a bunch of keys of cocaine. Yeah, the whole bed was covered with it. And then, because I know Frank walked by, I know Frank was with Jennifer, but it seemed like he was with everybody. Yeah, he was an open relationship. He was kissing her. and he was kissing, what's her name? God damn, I keep forgetting her name.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Trace. Yeah, Ray, like you're kissing her. She was kissing other dudes and kissing Jimmy Jump. Man, I guess drugs and money. We'll do that to you. So, because I remember the, I don't know, one of the, one of the blonde girls was in there getting ready to get down with that dude on the Coke. And Frank stopped there, stood there and watched.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Yeah, he is creepy So he keeps walking Um Who Somebody came in Oh no Frank was at the top of the stairs And one of those dudes came in
Starting point is 00:56:34 I think it was a Caruso Because no The guy that they shot in the hallway On the stair first Because he had A mask or a bag or something over his head He comes running in Um,
Starting point is 00:56:49 because, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. Uh,
Starting point is 00:56:51 when, uh, Delicio was walking out with that other dude to show him the drugs, they got around the corner. And then, they,
Starting point is 00:56:58 they blasted him. I, I, but this is where I think, uh, Delicio was in with the cops. Because when that guy shot him, he didn't like jump back.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Like, what the fuck? He kind of stood there. Yeah, he, he admits to it later. Okay. That they,
Starting point is 00:57:18 they, they, gave him more money than he'd ever had. All right. That's right. That's probably why he didn't flinch. Because so that that's what that's what set it off. And then that's when the other guy came running in and was shooting at Frank.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And if Frank blasted him in the hall. And then that that cop, the undercover cop that was about to get down with that blonde girl, he jumped up. And he blasted her. And then Frank came in. shot him and he fell down. And then everybody just all hell broke loose in that big room where everybody was dancing and partying because guys came running in with masks on and just started gunning up everyone.
Starting point is 00:58:00 So Jimmy and the rest of the gang, everyone just pulled out their guns and were just shooting every direction. So he had this big huge gun battle. And Ray, Ray was a real one because she jumped in front of Frank to take some shots. Yeah, man. She was down for hers. She got blasted. And all the other chicks that were in there got shot up.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Jimmy jumped behind the bar. And I love how he just comes out when he's got his two pistols. She's just fucking just double fisting and letting them have it. Runs that ammo throws down down. I assume there was just an arsenal under the bar because he kept popping up with machine guns. And they were just gunning everybody up. So it seemed like that whole crew got wiped out. because even the one
Starting point is 00:58:49 the one the dude can't remember his name. I know the thug leader guy. He got the guy from the loss. He got blasted. He went down. That other dude that we hated, he got shot.
Starting point is 00:59:00 The guy was overacting. He got shot up. And he overacted when he got shot. Yeah, he did. The blonger got killed upstairs. Ray got killed downstairs. And I seem Busemi was in there somewhere. Mr. Pink was in there.
Starting point is 00:59:16 I'm sure he got. He lived. think he lived. I kind of want to say he was at the scene where they were, they had Delicio and they were interrogating. Yeah, that's right. I think he made it. Him and,
Starting point is 00:59:27 Gus. Yeah, he made it. I don't even know what his name is in this. But yeah, he was Lance. I don't like these names of choosing him. Anyway, he's Gus.
Starting point is 00:59:38 You guys know what we're talking about. Yeah, he made it out because the, the firefight spilled out into the streets. I assume they were in Brooklyn. Um, they fell out into the streets and they were still gunning up. Jimmy jumped into, no, um, Frank came hauling ass in the limo and Jimmy jumped into it and jumped into the limo. I was like, yeah, and he started shooting.
Starting point is 01:00:00 And then one of the cop or one of the, they didn't know what was cops at the time. Uh, one of the mass guys ran up and grabbed the door and was hanging on trying to jump into the limo. And then, uh, I don't know why Jimmy just didn't shoot him because he was shooting everyone else. but Frank just went hauling top speed kind of onto the close to the curb and slammed that caught or that that guy that before before he slammed him into that fire hydrant Jimmy pulled the mask off and it was like oh fuck these guys are cops yeah it was Caruso's little brother yeah and then that's when they gunned it and I know it was a dummy but they fuck I mean it was a ruthless kill man he just just slammed him right into that, that, that sound. Yeah, that fire hydrant that did not give at all.
Starting point is 01:00:55 So, yeah, he was dead. If he wasn't dead, man, he paralyzed forever. So they were like, ah, so they were all, they just fucking, they just all jumped in their cars and were running after him or driving after him. So they had this huge car chase. And it was like two police cars, undercover police cars
Starting point is 01:01:18 Jimmy's fucking just firing hanging out of the window and everything Frank is just driving that limo all over the place hauling ass I think we jumped ahead no no no no no we didn't we didn't
Starting point is 01:01:36 I'm sorry so they um they were I think I know they were on the bridge I can't remember I don't know what I'm thinking they went through a tunnel and then Frank did something and those cars crashed.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Yeah. And so like, I don't think anyone else died at that point. So they ended up crashing. And Frank and Jimmy just kept hauling ass. So one of the other cars, I think Wesley
Starting point is 01:02:15 chased him him and David Caruso they followed him and they found him no no they were driving down the road looking around really slow and this is when the limo came
Starting point is 01:02:29 coming out of the darkness and slammed into them and then Jimmy jumped out and started running Wesley went running after him what the hell was Wesley's name Thomas Thomas
Starting point is 01:02:45 Landigan. Yeah. So he goes right in after him, after Jimmy. And Caruso runs over to the limousine. Just opens fires on there. And then he looks in there and Frank's not there. So he's like, fuck. So Jimmy kind of runs and hides.
Starting point is 01:03:04 And I just remember there was like hobos walking around wherever they were. He was running. And Wesley comes running around. Hey, Jimmy, where are you? I got some chival. chicken for you, man. So he's looking around and then here comes Jimmy. They were like by a trailer, one of a big semi-trailers.
Starting point is 01:03:26 He comes walking around and he ends up blasting Wesley. And he falls down. He's laying there. And then Jimmy's like, hey, man, where's my chicken at? And then because he like unloaded on his chest because he took a few rounds. to the chest so he goes down and he was just about to give him pumping another one but that's when
Starting point is 01:03:50 Caruso came around gunned up Jimmy and he fell ah he was laying there screaming and I was it hurts and then he starts laughing because Caruso runs over to
Starting point is 01:04:08 Flanagan Wesley and he's like you're all right man you're all right But when he opens up his shirt, he sees that he has a vest on. But I don't think they, they work when you were kind of point blank. Yeah. Because he had that. Go ahead. No, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I was going to say you could clearly see one went through the vest. Because, yeah, he had that big pool of blood. It was like that Italian horror blood. It was like bright red. Just sitting there. He was like, you're all right, man. He was trying to calm him down. I thought that was cool.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Like, yeah, man, you're all right, man. You'll be fine, man. We'll be good. You got your vest on. He was here. I'll help you breathe. And then that was it. He just, he died.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Yeah, it seemed like he was more upset about him dying than his brother. Yeah. He sat up and he was like, fuck. And then Jimmy's there. Ha, ha, ha, motherfucker. And he just walks up to him and a point blank shoots him in the head. So he's dead. So.
Starting point is 01:05:13 It's just Frank and whoever else survived that whole, that whole battle. Bishop was in there, so he, I'm sure he found out about it later, but we go to a big, huge funeral. And it's for Caruso's brother and Flanagan, Wesley. They do all that. They have the big flags over the coffins and all, all the police departments there. So Caruso's there, and he just loses it. And then he just goes run into his car and fucking gets in and can't start the car. Like, I'm a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:05:53 He's just he's just hella mad. Here comes this limo. Just rolling real slow. No one's really paying attention because there's all kinds of other limos and black cars there. He just rolls right up. And he goes, hey, man. And he takes a shotgun blast to the head. I was like, damn.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And you can agree No cops were trying to catch Frank At that time Frank was the one that shot Caruso in the head But yeah man I mean as soon as that happens Everyone hears it and they all go running
Starting point is 01:06:29 The blu the limo takes off Um You yeah during I don't know how many cops were there Only one of them had a gun out Everyone's running around and ducking and hiding And he's like, you couldn't jump in a car and go riding after him. But I don't know, movie.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Yeah, Bishop got there before most of them. Yeah. A couple of guys kind of quit running. It was like, oh, man. I was like, you guys didn't want another frank. So, yeah, after he kills him, he kills them, this is when they find, we go to, I don't know, they're like in a basement of something. And that's when they have,
Starting point is 01:07:16 what's his face? Delisio. And they're trying to tell him what was going on. And they told him that, yeah, they gave me all kinds of money. And then it was, all right, man. He goes, well, you got that money? Frank looked at him.
Starting point is 01:07:31 He goes, you got all that money, and bury him with it. And they were like, ah, because it looked like they beat the shit out of him first. Yeah. And they said they found the money on him. Yeah. had the money. I was like, what?
Starting point is 01:07:43 You can't even deny it after that. Oh, excuse me. Yeah, just bury him with it. I don't know. They probably kept it. But yeah, Frank goes walking off and you just hear a gunshot, so he's dead. And he tells, he tells everybody to put a $250,000 bond on any detective
Starting point is 01:08:03 that was involved. That's crazy. I mean, I guess it's just crime lords. I mean, nobody is safe, cops, everything. I mean, they didn't care. Because, yeah, okay, after the
Starting point is 01:08:20 250,000 bounty on every detective involved in the case, is that when Bishop went in, how did Bishop show up? Bishop had went back home. Oh, that's right. Sitting in the apartment waiting for him. Oh, yeah, that's right. And then he was,
Starting point is 01:08:41 was he there to kill him or just let him know what was up I think he was letting him know what was up because he basically told him how he was helping them because he said he was killing all these bad people and he was saying some of them was involved in prostitution and child pornography and all kinds of crazy shit and he was getting rid of everybody and so he was basically he was trying to paint the picture
Starting point is 01:09:11 that he was the good guy and Frank wasn't having none of it. Yeah. I mean, but that, I mean, that was true. I mean, all the guys he killed. I mean, yeah, they were doing dirt and everything. And he was doing it well.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I mean, he was doing all the dirt as well, but he wasn't doing the crazy shit they were doing. Because he was about business and everything. And he wasn't doing anything perverted or anything on the side like all. all these guys so that's why pretty much why he dusted all those dudes the the the triads the mafia guys and the the Colombians and everyone else but they just had to take out those cops because those are the ones that they came in and just tried to kill them they weren't going
Starting point is 01:09:57 they weren't there to arrest them they all rolled in there to kill them and then they all got dealt with so they had they killed all of them every one of those dudes the brother Crusoe, Flanagan, and Bishop was the last one. Yeah, so when he told, when Frank told him all that, I think he was just that attempt, because he didn't kill him.
Starting point is 01:10:19 He handcuffed him to the chair or whatever. And then Frank walked out. And then that's when Bishop jumped up, ran over to his desk, pulled out of his spare gun, shot the handcuffs, and then went running after him. So Frank just,
Starting point is 01:10:38 I don't know why he didn't have. have a car waiting. He just, he just walked. For some reason, he was just fascinated with the subway. I think I think it made him, I think it made him, they, they did that to make the character feel like he was, like
Starting point is 01:10:53 it, like, just like everybody else. He was you know, like, like the, you know, just like a regular person, you know. Yeah. Well, I assume that this bishop guy lives somewhere close to Times Square, because he just goes walking right through there. And what I like about that scene,
Starting point is 01:11:09 I don't think they really controlled the crowd Because you see everybody looking at Christopher walking As he's just walking through the crowd of streets Times Square And then he walks down into the subway And that's when Bishop goes running after him And he's looking around in the trains And Frank is just sitting there
Starting point is 01:11:37 With all the other train riders and then Bishop comes on like all right man come on that's it Frank this is this is it man you're you're under arrest and then Frank gets up and then just pulls out his gun and he grabs a hostage what did he what did he say? I don't remember because I know he's he asked you because he was like I've you don't let me go I'm gonna kill her and he goes you got a family don't you and she's like yes sir
Starting point is 01:12:07 So he's just pointing the gun at her and just like It's either you or me or her And then Bishop's like come on man And then fucking Bishop just like fuck it She lets off a few rounds and then Frank just Doodd go unloads into Bishop Talk about overacting He falls down under the ground
Starting point is 01:12:32 And he's like You know he got hit multiple times and he just he just wouldn't die he but he had that like i got to get frank i got because he kept trying to get up and holding his gun up and then he just he finally just falls over and that's it i assume he just let that girl go that lady go and she either jumped to the ground or ran off i don't know yeah because i don't think he ever intended to hurt her uh-oh i think he was just trying to get out get out of there we see frank he walks off the train he's got his trench coat on he kind of closes it and he's walking, he's walking and goes up the stairs and people are running around.
Starting point is 01:13:11 A lot of people went hauling ass out of the train when they pulled out their guns. Luckily, he was at a stop because if the train was going during all this, none of those people would have left. Everyone would have just been still on the train. So he walks up and he's back in Times Square again walking through. I'm sorry, I jumped ahead everyone with the Times Square part. So they must have stopped in Times Square. is when we see him walking through there because if you guys have been through time square traffic is just crazy down there no matter what time of day maybe not now because of what's
Starting point is 01:13:47 going on but so he just kind of gets into a cab and sits down and um i assume bishop must uh let out a call to say hey frank white on the train this is the area because frank's sitting in in this cab And then all of a sudden you hear you see all these black and whites come. No, the thing they're blue and white in New York. Anyway, cops. They all come rolling up. And then Frank's sitting there. And you see him.
Starting point is 01:14:20 He kind of looks down. And he's got his hand over his stomach. And there's blood on it. And he pulls his hand away. And he got shot. So he's like, ah, fuck. And then he kind of holds up his gun because he sees the cops. The taxi driver sees it, sees him holding up the gun.
Starting point is 01:14:40 And he's like, fuck that I'm out. And he jumps out and runs, uh, telling another driver, hey, the guy's got a gun. As the cops were all coming up, Frank is just sitting there looking out the window. And then you see him just kind of, did he like lean back or I mean, I don't know, is it the head went down or he leaned back? Yeah, he kind of leaned back and then close his eyes. And then he just kind of dies. Yeah, you just see his gun falling and credits. But he did what he had to do.
Starting point is 01:15:14 I don't know who was next in line to come in and take over New York because he took out all the competition. And then he got blasted. Steve Bouchamie's taken over. Either him or Gus, one of them. So, but yeah, and that's King in New York. This movie is awesome. I mean, I've seen it multiple times. I hadn't seen it in a while, so it was good to rewatch it.
Starting point is 01:15:42 So, King of New York, everyone. Yeah, this was, this budget was super small. It was $5 million to make it. I don't know what the box office was. Again, it might have been in just small little art theater. It only boxed off as $2.5 million. But I'm pretty sure I made a killing in VHS. rentals and sales
Starting point is 01:16:07 But I just picked this up On Blu-ray A couple days ago Who put this one out? Lionsgate put it out It's got Audio commentary with the director And I guess there's a short film
Starting point is 01:16:27 By the director There's a schoolie-D music video Yeah, I haven't heard that name in a long time way back yeah 90s everyone but yeah king of new york streaming to be as well as iMdb tv with ads so if you guys haven't seen it
Starting point is 01:16:49 and we sold it to you definitely uh check this film out all right bray uh you're up what are we got next all right uh i know for the action returns i did uh zach sniders justice lee i got to stick with hvon max and we got uh godzilla versus versus Kong coming up. So that's my pick.
Starting point is 01:17:12 When's that come out? The 31st or the 30th, 31st or the 30th, 31st or when, as we're recording this next Wednesday. Oh, okay. So that's the next stream themed things? Yeah, because. Oh, justice is action. Yeah. I know we're not covering either of those movies.
Starting point is 01:17:33 So I got to do it on one of these shows. Speaking of action in Justice League, we're going to have a guest with us. The Zisu, the leader of the East Society. The only Wonder Woman 84 fan, huh? Yeah, he's going to come on with us. We're doing the crossover with the action in East Society. I told me, as I said, dude, come on, because I don't want to talk about it all over again. with us.
Starting point is 01:18:07 So better just to do the crossover episode at once. But, uh, Justice League, I got a lot to say. So, um, just warning everyone now, that one might be a long one. Yeah. But,
Starting point is 01:18:21 uh, all right, Kong, uh, no, it's Godzilla versus Kong. Yeah. The original OG one,
Starting point is 01:18:30 King Kong versus Godzilla. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to do a rewatch on that. I love that one. I know it's goofy and everyone don't like it, but I do. Gee, 1963 when that one came out. Not sure for that stream.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Oh, so it's available on Amazon. But I don't know if it's streaming on there. Yeah, I was going to put it on the horror returns, but after we reviewed the trailer and Lance said those were probably the worst special effects he's ever seen. just like, nah. The original one? No, the new one? The new one?
Starting point is 01:19:11 Yeah. Said the effects look horrible. Brother Lance, you know I love you to death, man. But come on. What do you want? They all can't be in the cemetery. You'll be surprised at his scores on the latest episode of the horror returns. You'll be real surprised.
Starting point is 01:19:34 In a way, I'm not. But we'll see. But all right, everybody, as far as East Society, we got another regular episode coming up really soon. You'll probably get the crossover episode before that. I don't know. Zissu's work schedule is all over the place. I don't know. Might be before, might be after.
Starting point is 01:19:57 But either way, he's going to be on the next action with us. And shoot on over to Skater Nest Podcast Network and listen to everything on there. And again, thank you to Brian here for giving us more listeners and all you new listeners that do check us out. Thank you so much. You have, for the regular network, you got 500 episodes of a mixture of East Society, mainly East Society, as well as the Magnus Podcast, my solo show. Big guys, that is coming back. We are bringing that back. blind Frankenstein,
Starting point is 01:20:36 aka Big Jesse. It will be back in the house. Happy birthday, Jess. Yep. We have that coming. He can get back into the swing of things. He took a break for a while. So he's going to be back.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Hopefully horacopia and all that comes as well. I don't know. We'll see. We got that coming. And when you listen to everything we have on the regular network, shoot on over to anchor. Because there's about another. 300 or maybe close to 400
Starting point is 01:21:06 episodes over there dealing with East Society and everything. I can't believe on how much we have done not just you and I. I mean, you, on the regular episodes, dude,
Starting point is 01:21:21 on the regular network is you and I all over them. But yeah, five years in the game, we're coming up five years for East Society as well, and it's just more and more and more. We got tons of ideas that we haven't even touched yet. A list It gets longer and longer, but we're going to be back, hopefully, really
Starting point is 01:21:40 soon. So again, for your new listeners, thank you and welcome. And thanks for listening to Brian and I here on THR Presents Stream Fiends with King in New York. So until next time, you guys all be safe out there and party out.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Yep, and by the time you hear this, the episode 252 of the horror returns, year in 1985 the stuff and silver bullet will be out and that is the episode
Starting point is 01:22:11 if you know Lance he will shock you with his scores and next episode will be part two in 1985 with Cat's Eye and Reanimator and we will have guests Ricky and Danny from the Hell Ming podcast
Starting point is 01:22:25 and action returns you got boss level out right now and you'll have Zach Snyder's Justice League soon and, you know, after, of course, before you listen to this, listen to our deep cover review on THR Presents Stream Feens and got some more bonus episodes coming, crossover episodes with ESP and THR.
Starting point is 01:22:52 So until until next time, everybody stays safe.

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