The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #11: King Of New York (1990)
Episode Date: March 26, 2021This episode Brian and Nez head out to the Big Apple to join up with drug kingpin Frank White to help him become THE KING OF NEW YORK. Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook....com/groups/841619946357776 Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns
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From here on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved.
No blackjack, no dope deals, no nothing.
A nickel bag gets sold in the park.
I want in.
You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street.
It's my turn.
You think you're going to live long enough to spend that money, you fucking hump?
If any of you are tired of getting ripped off by guys like that,
you come with me.
I'm at the Plaza Hotel.
You're welcome.
You're all welcome!
A join.
Everybody, welcome back to another episode of THR present stream themes.
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I'm your host, Brian.
With me as always, this is my brother Nez.
What's up, man?
Yo, man, before we get into this, man, I just got to give props to my brother here for just all the footwork he does.
I know I've said this before on one of the shows we do.
I don't know.
We do so many.
Dude, we've been getting a lot of traffic on Facebook as well as our download numbers.
Damn.
And it's all to you.
It's all because of you.
I don't, I mean, I promote as much as I can.
I can't say anything for the Zsie, but, man, I appreciate it, brother.
Man, thank you so much.
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And if you're new to E society and everything else, thank you so much.
And we got more and more.
Of course, you're going to hear Brian.
He's also part of the E society.
So I kind of want to do what the geeks do.
Shout out to the League of Geeks and get a jumpstart on our 31 days of horror.
Yeah, I was thinking that.
We were supposed to do that last year.
And then we were kind of day by day.
Yeah.
I mean, it was fun.
I mean, every, every night doing it.
but I think we should try to at least get a bunch of them out of the way.
I don't know.
Just letting you guys know what's coming for October.
But we are here.
THR.
Present Stream Fiends.
And we are going back to 1990 for the crime drama directed by Abel Ferreira.
And this is Christopher Walkins, King of New York.
Frank White is a free man.
How come you never came to see me?
Who wanted to see you in a cage, man?
He served his time.
What can we expect from the reformed Frank White?
I want to be made.
He paid his debt.
Go someplace where he can stay out of trouble.
But some things don't change.
From here on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved.
No blackjack, no dope deals, no nothing.
They're waiting years for this.
I know what you're up to wait, forget it.
I'm going to make you any friends disappear long before that.
Are you arresting me?
Frank's Park Avenue attorney can get him out in ten minutes.
Ten minutes later.
I feel no remorse.
I got a quarter million dollar contract on anyone involved in this case.
The cops tried to stop him their way.
I'm not your problem.
I'm just the businessman.
Now they'll have to do it his way.
There's only one way to get Frank.
Christopher Walgan
King of New York
expected to get away
with killing all these people
I never killed anybody
that didn't deserve
A psychotic drug lord
leaves prison bent
On sharing his profits
With the poor
But finds that the streets
Are tougher than when he left
And there is no way of washing
The blood from his dirty money
Hmm
Okay, that was Google
Let's go over to IMDB
Ah, one sentence
a drug kingpin is released from prison and seeks to take total control of the criminal underworld
in order to give back to the community
I kind of like that way
Did he give back
Well in a way he did
I mean well we'll get into it in a minute
But um
Ryan King of New York
What'd you think of this and when was the first time you had seen this one?
I
I was kind of
late to this one.
I actually, because of
rest in peace,
notorious B.I.G.
I used to always refer to
himself as the black, Frank White.
And I was just like, who was
Frank White?
Did some research. And I was like,
oh, King of New York.
Christopher walking, you know,
Lawrence Fishburn. I was like, how did this one
slip by? And so I watched it.
And yeah, loved it.
You know, I love the performance from
Christopher
Walkin
There's a lot of
Like if you don't know the actor's name
You probably seen him in a bunch of movies
There's a lot of those actors in this movie
But my favorite character is probably
Lawrence Fishburn
Just his portrayal of
What was his character's name?
Jimmy Jump
Yeah
And of course this is back
This is
Wasn't Lawrence Fishman
This was old Larry Fishburn when he was doing these kind of roles.
And yeah, I just love the story.
It moves fast, too, because I haven't seen it in a while.
And then when it got to a certain scene, I'm like, oh, we're almost to the end.
You know, it flows really, really fast.
And I like that.
You know, they kind of let you know who Frank White is, what he's trying to do, who he's up against.
And it's just kind of straightforward.
love the performances.
I used to have a crush on
Teresa Randall
and you know she pops up as one
of Frank White's
ladies in this and it's
always nice to see her
and yeah, love this movie.
Yeah, there is
a ton of
well-known faces
in this. I mean, this is all in the beginning
of kind of like a lot of their careers.
Christopher Walken
Of course Academy Award winner
He's already been around the block many times
David Caruso
This is when he
Yeah he's an actor
But I think he wasn't quite to the
What was that movie that he went to do
He left that TV show
To do a movie
I think of a kiss of death or something
Then thought he was going to be some huge
Movie star which he should have stayed
With that TV show
but he's done plenty of roles so it was good to see him i haven't even thought about him in forever
i don't know let me i take that back i watched first blood recently and he's in that
but of course he had larry fishburn we got victor argot wesley snipes a uh gus frank
or um who was his name of mandolian grief carg no grief cargo was paulo creed of god damn it
somebody is yelling right now i'm sure i'm sure the zesos is yellow
Um
God damn
Mof Gideon
There you go
I was gonna pull it up
John
John Carlo Esposito
A lot of you guys know him as
Gus Frank
and for all you
Mandolian fans
Steve Bouchemi
A young Steve Bouchemey
I forgot he was in this
until he popped up on the screen
Paul Calderon he's in this
What's his name from
Deep Cover
Roger
Gwynavir Smith
he pops up
yeah
and Teresa Randall
always good look at
when she pops up
in this
and then there's just
like a ton of other people
in this film
but how I came across
this one
this was back in the
good old
block blockbuster
VHS rental days
this was a film
that
from what I understand
wasn't in the theater
if it was
it was probably maybe
those little small
art house theaters
but they had, I think, one copy at Blockbuster, and it was always out.
I didn't know nothing about it until some guys came in,
hey, man, you got King of New York?
And I said, no, it's out.
And they're like, oh, man, we've been dying to see it.
And I just, like, overheard them.
So I kind of walked over and I found the box and I looked at it, read it,
and I'm, oh, Christopher Walkins, and it sounds good.
A couple weeks later, it was finally there.
So I'm like, all right, man, let me, uh,
Get this since this is what everyone's talking about.
A friend of mine, he'd seen it already and said, yeah, that it was good.
So I'm like, all right, cool.
I trust him.
So I throw it in.
You can definitely see that this film has been watched a billion times because
there was a lot of the little fuzziness of VHS tapes.
For you younger listeners, you probably don't know what we're talking about.
But when you play a tape forever, too many times, it gets these stop and rewind marks.
So there was plenty of that throughout the film.
It didn't take me out of the film.
But when it was over, I was like, damn, man, that was hell of good.
And then it hit the HBO's and Cinemaxes.
And I think that's when a lot more people.
That's when a lot of my friends saw it because I was telling them about this film.
And they tried to go to our blockbuster.
and there was always, it was never there.
Finally, somebody rented it and just never brought it back.
So they didn't get one for a long time.
And after a while, they ended up getting a few more copies.
So, but I love this film.
I have not watched it in a really long time.
I just picked it up on Blu-ray.
But I ended up watching it on IMDB TV with ads.
Oh, man, there was just too many ads in this.
one for me.
Is there like a pay?
No ads for IMDB?
Do you know?
I think it's
strictly the way it is free.
I watched mine on
2B, which you get
it seems like on 2B you get most of the
ads up front.
The first half of the movie and then there's
hardly no ads for the rest of the movie.
At least when the ads popped up on this one, it was in a
good spot for an ad.
not like right in the middle of a sentence
and I hate when they do that.
Some TV channels do that shit too.
But yeah,
this movie,
I mean,
I was all about it,
man.
This was the,
probably filmed in 89,
a young,
Christopher Walken.
And I just loved what he did.
I mean,
his acting style,
he can do comedy.
He can be serious.
He can be scary and everything.
I mean, if you guys have seen the prophecy films
or his performance as a
headless horseman and
Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow and
he's all over
the acting spectrum.
When he pops up in these
movies, you're like, oh man, it's good for walking.
This and that. Even if he just does little small bit parts, I mean,
he's good, but this one
it was good. I mean, I totally bought
his character because
on how he is. He just
kind of goes with the flow and
And he means business.
I mean, because that's what this story was.
Because he was, they never really went.
Did they ever go into why he was in prison?
I mean, we off because he was doing dirt.
But.
Yeah, it just kind of got out.
Nobody ever spoke about it.
Didn't even really say how long.
I don't think he was really in.
And he just got straight back to business.
Yeah, because says right here,
Frank White, a drug lord is riding in New York.
city in the limousine after being released from Rikers Island.
All right.
And then he ends up, uh, yeah, he just went right back into business.
And then, because at the beginning scene, we see, uh, Jimmy the jump is that what
his name was?
Yeah, um, Lawrence Larry Fishburn, his character and all his crew, they're dealing with
some, um, like Puerto Ricans or no, Colombian, uh, in, uh, in, uh,
some airport hotel
they were doing a drug buy.
Yeah, King Tito.
Yeah.
But we skipped the scene.
I fucking think this scene's stupid.
When they shoot the one guy
in the phone booth,
Amelia L. Zappa,
I think it's so,
why did they show him
a picture of Frank in the newspaper
and Frank did this
or Frank sends his regards or something?
Like the guy,
dead. I don't know.
I kind of seemed stupid.
I think it was more of just this is
this is the beginning. This is this is the calling card.
This is who did it. And we know why.
Are they,
they know why. I think it was one of those type of things.
Yeah, it would have been better for me if they would have just left the newspaper on him.
Like, yeah, like you said, this movie is really short.
It's only a hundred and three minutes long.
It goes by quick.
Like this happens that.
Edmonds, credits are rolling.
I mean, I think if this film was made today,
this would be one of those two and a half hour pushing three hour movies.
Because they would probably try to throw a lot in.
But this sense is being a small time independent type film.
I think that's probably why they just shortened it.
Christopher Walken probably got most of the money out of this budget.
But yeah, they just roll up on that fool and just gun him down.
I mean, there was a lot of, I mean,
if you ever been to New York City or if you live over there,
awesome city, I love going there.
Can't wait to go back.
There is cops everywhere.
But maybe that's because of 9-11.
But then again, I don't know.
I went there,
geez,
I can't even remember.
It was way after 9-11.
And I did notice that there was a lot of police presence,
like everywhere I went.
Because these guys just roll around,
gun up,
everyone shoot guns in there,
no cops around.
Nope.
The most you see,
cops is near the end at the funeral.
Yeah.
And they weren't even really useful at that moment either.
I don't think anyone had good.
I saw one with a gun.
Everyone else was just looking around.
But we'll get to that in a minute.
So, yeah, they gun up one of the rivals.
Obviously, one of the dope game guys that they were trying to just rub out.
So Frank comes out, meets his crew.
When I first saw this, because we just saw Jimmy the jump and all his gang gun this full down.
And then we see Frank in his hotel.
room and then these guys all come walking in all loked out and again you got to love the 90s
clothing we talked about it when we did deep cover but this I mean especially um jimmy the jump man
this the little derby hat the big gold chains did you ever rock those big things I had a few
chains but I always wanted the the big fat the dukey gold gold rope chain I never I
never got it though but I had some I had some back in the day I was never much of a jewelry
person I didn't ever wear necklaces or anything um but if someone gave me one of those
would I rock it today maybe all right I'm looking at a picture right now Jimmy the Joe
I got the loks on the can go leather jacket big thick well I mean he his changed like
changed throughout the film. He had the big thick
ropes in the beginning and then he had the
big thick flat ones
and everything and then the big
nuggets on his hands and the big
diamond earrings and everything so
but uh
he
he played the part. I mean he
fit the role. I mean it's it's funny
and it's weird seeing
Morpheus
Larry Fishburn
Lawrence Bishopbird
uh was the king
of the ghetto or
King and
John Wick
yeah I mean
and he's pops on
blackish
seeing him
in these roles
I mean he like he does
awesome roles this role is tough
rough as gangster
undercover cop
and deep cover
um
furious styles and boys in the hood
when he was just
legit I think I love that role as well
but this one man
he's just
Yeah, he fits the part.
I mean, he did it.
I mean, did he overdo it in some scenes?
Yeah, but, I mean, it was still cool.
I liked what he did.
It seemed like he was the main one that did all the talking.
Everyone else, all the crew, they were there, but no one really said much.
Yeah, it kind of seemed like everybody, there was like levels to their crew and everybody kind of fell in line.
Yeah, he was definitely the leader.
out of all the henchmen and everything.
So, I mean, he was really cool.
Because when he comes rolling in all suave and holding his chan and drinking his drink.
And then Frank Wack just comes walking around.
They're just looking at him.
What are you drinking?
Oh, this root beer.
And then Frank gets into that.
I love Christopher walking.
He's always dancing in some form in these films.
But his little crew.
crazy dance moves to hype up his boy.
I don't know.
I just never really liked this scene.
It just didn't fit.
But, I mean, he's back.
He's happy.
Everybody was good to see him.
But, I mean, but he was straight up, man.
After he got his crew together and everyone and they were telling him, yeah, okay, well, here's,
what was the calling me a guy's name?
King Tito.
And I think the, I think the drugs came.
from King Tito and the money came from
Emilio Zappa.
Because they were like, yeah, okay, well, King Tito's dead.
So, yeah, that's out of the way.
Because that was pretty much the beginning of his reign of
terror to take over in New York.
Because he's like, all right, because I love that scene,
but in the beginning, the drug deal, when they was like, all right, man,
when they were testing it and everything.
And then he, all right, well, where's the money?
So he handed him a brief.
briefcase full of whatever and he opened it up and it was nothing but those um tampon the long ones
the long applicator tam compound thingies they're all the same in me but he's like what is this for
and he goes for the bullet holes and then he just he just lights him up i thought that was cool he always
had some good shit to say before he started blasted fools i mean he he was talking shit not to jump forward
but he was talking of shit all the way to the end.
So I thought that was cool.
So that's how they got the money and the drugs and everything.
Because, okay, after he kind of laid down what was happening,
he, they went to the, were those guys Italians?
Yeah, they sent that one guy, what is this,
his name, Delicio to Little Italy to basically,
let him know that Frank wants to sit down.
And this is the second movie in a row
where we have not only Lawrence Fishburn,
Larry Fishburn, but somebody getting pissed on.
Oh.
Yeah, I don't know about that, man.
That's, to me, that's just pure, pure disrespect right there.
Yeah, that fool rolls up in there.
What was his name Joey?
Was it Joey Delicio?
Is that what you said?
Yeah.
I think that's his name.
Because he went in and told those full, though.
There were like some mafia guys.
Um, who says, uh, mafia boss, Artie Clay.
I assume that's who it was.
Because he's rolling in there talking to him telling him.
Tell him, yeah, Frank's back and he wants to sit down with you.
Um, what do you always?
Oh, you tell that guy I don't deal with, uh,
inward lovers.
I mean, of course,
the race,
the racist remarks,
I have to fly with these gangster films.
Because I ain't talking to them.
And maybe he's got,
didn't fucking,
too much been fucked up in the ass in jail.
And then he goes,
here,
this is what I tell on this.
And he pulls a dick out and peas all over him.
He was ready to go with that.
Yeah.
I mean,
he usually takes you a second
before it to come out,
unless you had to go.
I mean, you see some guy,
fat guy sticking his hand and you step back.
So,
but he pees on his feet and he's like,
all right,
man,
I'll tell him.
So that's when he goes back and let Frank know what's up.
They were,
no,
they were at,
uh,
at,
um,
was that some kind of benefit dinner that they were having?
Because they were talking about,
uh,
doing renovations to the new,
to a,
uh,
an old,
um,
The thing was a children's hospital or just a big hospital.
Yeah, he went up to, what was that guy's,
uh,
fucking name,
uh,
Eddie from deep cover.
Oh,
um,
I know,
I keep clicking off everything.
Well,
Eddie from deep cover.
They,
he went up to him.
I'm assuming he's like some kind of politician and he was asking him,
why is there no money?
There's money for this,
but why?
there's no money to
fix this hospital
it's children's hospital and then he basically
tells Frank how much it costs
and why don't you come up with the money
yourself and Frank's
basically like maybe I will
and I think he said something like
you say like 500 million or something
I think it would be like 6th
yeah 500 million
uh he said no no no
whoa
I'm jumping ahead um
I thought he said like 15 million or something
or 15 16 million
and something like that.
Yeah, he said something like that.
To something else later.
It was, yeah, it was going to cause that to fix up the hospital.
There's already a hospital there, but they want to make it better because it's just run down.
And he wanted to, well, his, Frank's idea was to make it an affordable medical care for everyone,
not just the privileged and basically not for the rich people.
I mean, rich people can go there, but it seemed like that hospital, if you were poor or whatever and you couldn't pay your bill, they didn't want you.
They would send you to county general or whatever.
I mean, that thing right there, I mean, that is true in a lot of cities.
I mean, it sucks.
I mean, I don't know why some other countries can have all this free medical care.
And here it's like you got to sell your firstborn kid to take.
get a whatever a checkup.
I mean, it's crazy.
You got to lose something to get something.
I know, man.
It just seems like these guys, these higher ups in the, in the, in the, in the, not, not the doctors or anything, but the, the, the, the people that run these hospitals.
It seems like they're just, um, they just want money.
I mean, if you, if you're not going to pay for our services and all that, then you can't come here.
I mean, because it was a situation on my life to where it was like.
well we can't we can't do nothing for you then this is the end so uh you got to get out and i'm like
i bet if i had all this money you guys wouldn't care i mean i mean it's i don't want to get
into all that but i mean that's that's what it seems like frank was was against he wanted to
help this hospital uh was this all in manhattan it seemed like it went in manhattan then
went to like brooklyn and everywhere else yeah i think it kind of bounced all around
because he was throughout the movie.
I think he's just knocking off
whoever's running the different boroughs of New York.
Yeah, because,
so that was his main,
his main thing was to get that hospital
up and running
and affordable health care for everybody.
So that's why they,
I mean, even Eddie,
whatever the hell his name was.
Tanner, Tanner.
Yeah, he was, he was in that.
I thought he was hardly,
in this. I thought he would be
dirty because
no, this was before deep
cover. But
anyway, so
that was the whole idea
for the hospital and then what's
going to cost this much money?
And he's like, well, all right, man, I'll get it for you in a
couple days. So that's when
Frank goes on
onto the
all right, I need to start
kicking ass and
taking names. Because after he left,
because during this party, that's when he told
his, his
delisio or however he say his name,
to go to talk to the,
to the mafia dudes.
He had sent him there from the party.
And then he went back.
He crewed up.
And then they rolled into Clay's social club.
This is what they call it.
This is my favorite part in the whole film.
I played that clip in the beginning of this episode.
But man, he came in there and was just like, all right, hey guys, what's up?
And laid it down.
Like, look, nothing goes down in this city and that I'm not a part of.
And no dope deals, no, or if there's a dope deal or a card game or anything, anything that makes money, he goes, he wants in.
He wants a cut of it.
And then he was just laying the rules down on him.
And then the, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the big, the big boss was like, he goes,
do you think you're going to live long enough to spend that money?
You fucking hump.
I love how, because Frank just walks away and then he just stops.
And then just turns around really quick, pulls out his gun, just guns just guns him down.
And he fucking was going off.
And you guys are tired of getting ripped off by fucks like this?
come see me
you're welcome you're all welcome
but that last shot when he walks away
the joint I was like oh yeah
because that was that was a scene right there
that before I saw this film
my friends that had seen it or listening to other guys
talk about it they all talked about that scene
and then when I finally saw it
I was like fuck man that was awesome
I mean that that's the scene I can watch
over and over again
because just Christopher
Walker's performance, he just
walks close
to the camera, stops, you can
see, he's just like, this motherfucker
the look on his face
and then just turns around and bites
his lip and just fills him
up full of holes.
Obviously, those other guys,
I don't know if they, were they part of his crew
or were they just other?
They were with Clay,
but Frank said if anybody
wants to come earn
come with me and then the two guys looked at each other
and like, well, fuck, might as well.
And I just went with them.
Yeah, because they just, I mean,
I don't know much about the mafia,
but from what I've seen in movies.
I don't know that world,
but my knowledge is movies.
A lot of my knowledge I learned is from movies and TV, everyone.
If you didn't know that by now.
But I figured
him dusting off
I'm sure he was a made guy
I'm surprised other families didn't
come try to
battle him I mean I figure
maybe if this film was longer than
an hour and 40 something minutes
maybe they probably would have
yeah it seems like when he would knock off
a main guy there was no
retaliation from anybody
yeah
because after he took this guy out
I mean, there's a lot of things
It just played out throughout the film
But
Uh
His rise to being King of New York was taken out
I mean, his rivals
The other
The other crime families
Because then he rolls to Chinatown
And uh, no, no, no, he sends
Delicia to over there to talk to, um
I guess he was a triad leader, Larry Wong.
Yeah, he need to send some
somebody else other than delisio because everybody's he's coming like frank said this and they're
like man fuck you tell frank i said fuck you delisio i don't know if he's supposed to convince these
people or what but it's not working i think he was more of just he was uh uh he had a cool
head because he didn't go off after that got pissed on him and uh after this after long told him to
go fuck himself.
I mean, he just kind of went,
all right.
Because they were sitting in a movie theater
and watching that old
Nosferatu film.
Yeah.
And sure you want to stick around?
We got Frankenstein up next.
Speaking of Nosferatu,
it's a classic film and
and I love it.
But man,
is it boring?
But, I mean,
what was that kiss of the vampire?
That one was
good, but because it was in color and they were talking.
But, um, so yeah, I mean, he's, because he's that, that Wong is just sitting there,
uh, in the theater and they're watching the movies and he's got his little hit guys and
his, and his women.
And they were like, yeah, well, this is, this is the deal.
He goes, if you guys want my drugs, it costs this much.
If you don't fuck off.
Yeah, why, why does he tell them I have three million dollars worth of cocaine?
and I have it here with me.
I'm like,
what are you doing?
What is the name?
Larry Wong, triad leader.
What are you doing, man?
Come on.
It says,
ROS,
okay,
descends to Chinatown,
talks to triad leader,
Larry Wong,
who has $3 million worth of cocaine.
Frank tells him to bring $15 million
when he sells it on the street.
Larry demands $3 million up front
and another $500,000 after the drugs.
are sold.
Because, yeah, after he tells him, I mean,
I'm not a big crime or drug lord,
but don't tell everyone what you got.
Just say, I got it.
If you want it from me,
because he did tell, look, man,
this is the price, take it or leave it.
If you want it, all right,
but don't try to threaten him.
But he never really threatening it.
It always seemed like at least you just came over to,
all right, I'm a representative.
and then these guys just everybody pissed on them
and then tell him the fuck off
and this and that
then he goes back and tells Frank
what's up and then they
fucking like all right
you guys want to play hardball cool
and they roll in the chat
oh they roll in in the limo
first the limo comes rolling in
and uh what's the
uh
uh what's teresa randells
ray
she comes popping
out the top of the limo.
These girls were all down. They weren't
just hot and just eye candy
for all these gangsters.
Man, they fucking, she popped out of the top
machine gunned and just started
gunning down all
the triad gang
members.
And, man,
Frank White as well.
I mean, he didn't just give the orders and then
hang back and send this soldiers.
He even jumped in.
Because Wesley or Jimmy jumped
jumps out
and he's
firing off two rounds
and um
fucking
what is John Carlos name
Lance?
I don't even remember
I only heard Jimmy jump
I don't even know
anyone else's name
uh
was in this
Steve Bouchemi was test tube
because I guess he was the one
always testing the drugs
did he would they show him
have any gunfire?
I don't yeah
the only one I really remember
is in the beginning when they killed King Tito
he was shooting at people.
Oh, that's right.
And that one guy came in all corny when he was like,
room service motherfucker.
I don't like that guy.
He was in,
do the right thing.
He was one of,
one of those guys that were just hanging out there.
And he's,
he's one of those dudes.
Oh,
I know that guy.
He's been in a bunch of movies.
And he just,
yeah.
He like overacts.
Yeah.
Even like the.
scene where they
jumping ahead, but
when a few of them get arrested
and then they get bailed out by
Frank's lawyer and then he's
telling the guy to kiss his ass and
he's shown his ass and it just
felt overdone from him.
Yeah, because
when they
when they leave,
Jimmy Jump pulls out money and throws, hey,
black man, and then throws money and
here's some, buy some flowers for your witness.
And then
that other dude
what the hell was his name
I know what you're talking about
him the overactive guy he walks up
get some cheap ones and takes
I'm like oh man come on
that was a gross scene though
yeah
it's so
Larry got spitting Larry's face
and he like tastes it
like fuck all that I don't mean
I mean
not in just this film any
any movie where someone
get spit on.
Sometimes these actors go that extra level
and really take that spit to the face
or whatever.
Fuck that.
I mean,
I don't know.
I don't think I could.
But yeah,
it was nasty because he
he wipes it
over his lips
and then tastes it.
I don't know.
Fuck all that.
I'll shot someone.
So,
yeah,
after they gunned up
all the
the triads.
That's another thing I'll get to that in the second.
The leader, Wong, what the hell was his first name?
I can't remember.
Larry.
He goes running down back into under wherever their hangout is.
And then Christopher Wall,
he was hiding,
Wong was hiding around the corner and then one of his boys came around.
He bluts, shoots him in the chest.
It's like, oh, fuck.
It's one of my guys.
And then that's when, uh,
Jimmy Jump comes out
And then Frank White comes in
And they end up
I asked did they just kill him
Or did they just hang him upside down?
Yeah, they killed him
Yeah, because we see
These guys that we see
Frank and his crew
They're carrying out the
Well, they had one of these big giant
Canisters
It was like one of those cardboard canisters
Just take that thick hard cardboard
And it was just full of Coke
And they were the big big like barrels
So they were
They were hauling those out there.
And then the camera kind of goes up and you see Wong hanging from the rafters.
Were they going to, I know they were supposed to do drug deals with other people, but they never really did anything.
I mean, people.
Not so the end.
Not to the end.
That seemed the only time they were even attempting to do any kind of deal.
Yeah, because they like, they had all this Coke.
and I assume this is this is how he was going to get the money but I think the hospital already got the money.
I don't know.
I don't know how we got it because I always took it as I think they were trying to dump everything at once and not just kind of.
Because they never seemed like they was in the drug game.
And I think they were just trying to make one big deal.
Yeah, because I don't think he had his guys out there slanging or nothing.
I mean, it was just, they were big business and that was it.
Because in the beginning, when Jimmy and gentlemen, those guys were with the Colombians,
they were going to buy the drugs from them.
So, but I think that was just more of, okay, we're going to buy it,
but then they ended up killing them and just took it.
So that's what they did with the triad gang.
They were rolled in there, killed everybody.
I mean, when Frank White busted out, man, he pulled out his,
machine gun and just started gunning up the women.
I was like, damn.
I mean, nobody was safe on those streets.
So after they killed that whole little triad gang,
the triad gang,
from my, again, my knowledge from movies,
there's not just one organization in a city.
There's,
because when you watch those,
shoot them up,
the John Wu films,
I mean, there was always different triad families or however you want to call them,
or maybe these guys are the only ones in New York.
And if they were, they seemed like they were a little small-time guys.
So.
Yeah, again, you would think there would be some kind of retaliation.
But I guess, I guess Frank put the fear in the mafia and the triad, I guess.
Yeah, because, I mean, yeah, there was no retaliation.
I mean, it doesn't take anything away from the film,
but when you sit there and think about it,
only because of all these other films we've seen.
If somebody gets hit,
all right, then they come rolling back with someone else.
So they end up taking all their Coke.
There was a kind of a little love story,
not really,
but with Frank and that was his lawyer, right?
Yeah, so it was so gross.
They're a little scene in the subway
when they're like tongue in each other.
yeah
I mean good for you man
get yours
yeah
yeah
it just
it just looked
awkward
it did
it mean
I
actors
Christopher Walker
was probably enjoying
it a little bit more
than
than this young woman
yeah
because I've
I've read stuff
that he's
he's like a really
weird guy
especially like on set
I believe it
um
what was that
girl's name.
She wasn't Jennifer, was it?
Jennifer seems like that would have been the
one blonde girl.
I think that was her.
I'm not sure.
Every now and then someone was calling her counselor.
But yeah, what's his name was in this?
Yeah, her name was Jennifer.
Okay.
The guy from Lost.
what's his name
is that his name
he was in Lost and he was in
yeah that's his name
he was in
what was that prison show
on oh I was
yeah
Harold Perry now
yeah he was a young
subway bugger
he's his name
he's a thug leader
yeah
this was a good scene
because they think they're going to rob
Frank and he just pull it.
He doesn't even pull out the gun.
He shows him.
They're just like, oh, okay.
Then he throws him a lot of money and tells him I'm at the plaza.
Ask for Frank White.
And you don't see him no more.
So apparently, once he found out who it was, he was like, fuck that.
Gone.
He popped up.
He joined the crew.
Did he?
Yeah.
Because it was.
He must have got killed right away.
No.
He got killed.
towards the end.
It was after all the,
I think it was after the,
the triad stuff.
They were at one of,
it was when they were all partying,
like in some warehouse or something.
No, no, no.
No, no.
Let me jump forward.
They were in his hotel room.
And all those guys were in there and they were taught,
he was talking, and Frank was talking to his lawyer.
You see,
um,
uh,
to, who wasn't it?
Thug leader.
You see him standing
off on the side,
kind of leaning up against the wall
because he did show up.
They show him in the hotel.
So he was there and he was kind of just
hanging out.
Like I assume I'm sure he was probably just a gopher.
But all during this,
there was,
the police officers were trying to take him down.
The leader of,
I think he was,
I assume he was
sergeant of Victor
Argo he played Roy Bishop
He had
I think he
I think he had the
He was probably the the officer
The brought Frank White down
That was probably why he
He went to prison because you saw that there was
Some kind of
There was something there between them two
That's why they had history
Yeah
Because it seemed like it was more personal
With the cop Roy Bissom
So, I mean, they never really went into it, but how he was acting and everything.
He, because that's what he wanted to do because he was like Frank Wax getting out of jail.
I got to bring him down because I know he's going to be doing dirt once he gets out.
So he had his crew.
It was it was Bishop.
It was David Caruso, Dennis Gilley, Wesley Snipes character, Thomas Flanagan.
And then there was another one.
It was a younger guy.
Yeah, which he was a.
David Caruso's younger brother
Oh, okay
Because yeah, because he
They show a wedding scene
With that
I mean just to show that all these cops are tight and everything
Yeah
So they had them
And I did like that scene
Because David Caruso's basically explain them
Why they're so pissed off
Is because they basically
They play by the rules
And they can't ever bust him
And he just
just get he he he now frame goes against the law and he's constantly getting away with everything and
they're they're doing what they're supposed to do and they never get anywhere with anything
yeah they were they weren't they weren't they weren't above the law they were just they were just
trying to just do everything by the book and uh to them it was just it was getting them nowhere
and they were just finally getting fed up um i've never been a cop i for a lot of friends that are
but I'm sure that job's frustrating.
I mean,
especially now with what's going on in the world.
But,
I mean,
but yeah,
they,
I could,
I can see them.
Like,
man,
we're fucking,
we're out here doing what we have to do to bring bad guys to,
to justice.
And they just,
the justice system just keeps letting them go.
I mean,
what's his name?
Nino Brown said it the best in New Jack City,
which will eventually cover.
he
because he told me
he went that
I mean he of course he was going down
for his crime
but then he was like
he was letting them all know
what was up because it was
it was the law
he was going by law
he was using the law
to help him
and I think that's what Frank
and all these guys
were doing
that's why they
kept getting away
with everything
yeah he did go to prison
for a while
but they
I don't know how long
he was in there
I'm sure they wanted him
to be in there
like forever because I'm sure they could link him up to all kinds of murders and everything else,
but they just,
they just couldn't do it.
So they probably caught him for, I don't know, maybe drug possession or something.
And that's why he was in prison.
So we got all these cops that are just getting pissed off as it's going on.
And Roy Bishop is the one that's leading them.
And he seemed to be the one to, we need to do this by the book.
I think David Caruso and Wesley Snipes
And the other guys were like
No fuck that
We we got to bring we know he's dirty
We got to bring him down
Yeah because he tells him
He was like you know how this is going to get done
And he tells David Caruso
What was his name?
Dennis he tells Dennis
If you guys go that way
I'll bust you
Yeah
Because
They um
When they
Who
they killed
they killed someone
and they had a witness
was it the
Colombian guy in the beginning
yeah they had one of those
I think it was King Tito
and this is a scene where they kind of
you think they're arresting Frank
but they take him like to some
parking lot somewhere
and then they opened a trunk and they
for some reason they have
King Tito's body in there
and he's just kind of
like prove it.
Yeah.
I mean,
he didn't even like,
Frank knows he didn't do it.
He's like,
well,
he got nothing on me.
I didn't do it.
But yeah,
they showed him the dead body in the trunk.
Like,
how long has his body been in the trunk?
It looked like it'd been there a while.
Because he looked like he was turning gray.
So,
um,
the part I liked,
uh,
well,
they couldn't,
they,
I think that,
I think that was more of just a warning.
Look.
we're on to you and we're going to bring you down
because they just ended up letting him go.
But after this scene,
Jimmy Jump,
Lay Fishburne, he was in a restaurant
trying to get to my food and everything.
It seemed like they cooked everything in there.
And he just came, hey, give me this,
give me 15 wings, give me eight spare ribs,
give me some this and shrimp and all that.
And the guy that was running behind the counter
there was some little kids in there
they were having lunch and they just wanted to play
video games and that guy behind the
count was hey man you have no money get away from
there
and Jimmy Jim's like looks at him
what the fuck's mad with you and then he walks over him
hey here this is for you guys get them something to eat
and gives them all quarters
yeah
I don't know why this is probably the most memorable
scene because he was like
you what you got to drink you got birch beer
you probably don't even know what that is
I mean, those guys must have been quick with his order
Because they just immediately stuck two big bags on the counter
And then he goes, oh, how much is this?
Well, that's $57.
All right, man, fuck you very much.
But as he's in there, we see the cops outside roll up.
I think it was some black and whites and then Caruso and the gang.
And Wesley.
Oh, a bishop as well because they come kicking in the back door.
And they all come running in because Wesley tries to run.
No, um, Wesley.
Jimmy Jump tries to run
and he like throws the bags at him
And then they just grab him and slam him on the counter
Yeah
Some reason Wesley's name is Thomas Flanagan
They said something about his name
When they were at the wedding
Like yeah you're the only dark Flanagan
I assume
Flanagan's an Irish name or something
I don't know they did something like that
But
They slam him on the
They slam a Jimmy jump on the counter and they go,
oh, man, you get a little old man.
He goes, we got a witness.
He goes, I don't leave no witnesses.
He goes, ah, well, you got one now.
So they took Jimmy jump and all his crew and then threw them in jail.
And this is when that scene when Frank finds out that his guys are in jail.
And they go down there and get them.
It was then cost like a million, a million dollar bond to get them.
each to get them out.
And they were like, all right, man,
just pay it and get them out.
So they roll down there and they get them out.
Did, well, did they, did they kill that witness?
I don't know.
Just, this witness kind of disappeared.
Yeah, because that's when they come out.
And they're like, yeah, and they're all happy and everything.
And as Jimmy and the guys are coming out, here come Bishop and the crew.
They come rolling in to the police station.
And that's when they're when Dennis, David Cruz, so spits on Jimmy Jump.
Yes.
Oh, fuck all that.
And then the whole kiss my ass and all that shit.
And I think, yeah, Bishop was mad because Frank wins again, gets his guys out.
But I think this was the, this was.
was it. I think, uh, I think, um, David Caruso was the leader of this, uh, of these cops when they, uh,
when they go rogue. Because he was like, fuck that. He goes, we got to do it. And that's when
Bishop told him, look, if you guys do this, I'm gonna bust you too, but, mm-hmm, they're like,
well, we just won't tell you. Um, because that's when, uh, we get to the, the scene when they're
all partying and, uh, dancing around, uh, and everything. Uh, and everything.
everything. They were
they were going to do a deal
with someone else. I don't even know
who those dudes were. They were
undercover.
Delisio. Delisio had set up the
deal. All right. Because yeah, because two
of them came
and then they were like, yeah, and everybody was in their party.
And Frank was there. Yeah, because he
was talking on the phone.
and all the girls are not really topless,
but whatever they're wearing is open
and everyone's dancing hell of hard.
I don't know what that song was,
but I did like it.
It would probably be a good dance song,
but not.
I'm too fat to be swinging my fat ass like that anymore.
Because, yeah, that thug leader guy,
a guy from Lost,
he was out there all faded dancing hell hard too.
So,
um,
Uh, one of them was downstairs and they took a none, they took another, oh, no, no, no, they asked him, okay, well, we'll buy it for you.
He goes, well, where is it?
Oh, we got it next door.
So they took, uh, that guy over there and, I goes, all right, man, well, I'll leave this dude here.
And, uh, and I'll be back.
I'll go see the drugs or whatever.
So he left.
And the other guy with the long hair that some girls grabbed him, took him up upstairs, I guess.
because then she was putting coke on his stomach and getting ready to sniff a line off him.
Yeah, he was deep undercover.
He was about to bang her on a bunch of keys of cocaine.
Yeah, the whole bed was covered with it.
And then, because I know Frank walked by, I know Frank was with Jennifer,
but it seemed like he was with everybody.
Yeah, he was an open relationship.
He was kissing her.
and he was kissing, what's her name?
God damn, I keep forgetting her name.
Trace.
Yeah, Ray, like you're kissing her.
She was kissing other dudes and kissing Jimmy Jump.
Man, I guess drugs and money.
We'll do that to you.
So, because I remember the, I don't know,
one of the, one of the blonde girls was in there getting ready to get down with that dude on the Coke.
And Frank stopped there, stood there and watched.
Yeah, he is creepy
So he keeps walking
Um
Who
Somebody came in
Oh no
Frank was at the top of the stairs
And one of those dudes came in
I think it was a Caruso
Because no
The guy that they shot in the hallway
On the stair first
Because he had
A mask or a bag or something over his head
He comes running in
Um,
because,
oh,
no,
no,
no,
no,
I'm sorry.
Uh,
when,
uh,
Delicio was walking out
with that other dude
to show him the drugs,
they got around the corner.
And then,
they,
they blasted him.
I,
I,
but this is where I think,
uh,
Delicio was in with the cops.
Because when that guy shot him,
he didn't like jump back.
Like,
what the fuck?
He kind of stood there.
Yeah,
he,
he admits to it later.
Okay.
That they,
they,
they,
gave him more money than he'd ever had.
All right.
That's right.
That's probably why he didn't flinch.
Because so that that's what that's what set it off.
And then that's when the other guy came running in and was shooting at Frank.
And if Frank blasted him in the hall.
And then that that cop, the undercover cop that was about to get down with that blonde girl, he jumped up.
And he blasted her.
And then Frank came in.
shot him and he fell down.
And then everybody just all hell broke loose in that big room where everybody was
dancing and partying because guys came running in with masks on and just
started gunning up everyone.
So Jimmy and the rest of the gang, everyone just pulled out their guns and were just
shooting every direction.
So he had this big huge gun battle.
And Ray, Ray was a real one because she jumped in front of Frank to take some shots.
Yeah, man.
She was down for hers.
She got blasted.
And all the other chicks that were in there got shot up.
Jimmy jumped behind the bar.
And I love how he just comes out when he's got his two pistols.
She's just fucking just double fisting and letting them have it.
Runs that ammo throws down down.
I assume there was just an arsenal under the bar because he kept popping up with machine guns.
And they were just gunning everybody up.
So it seemed like that whole crew got wiped out.
because even the one
the one the dude
can't remember his name.
I know the thug leader guy.
He got the guy from the loss.
He got blasted.
He went down.
That other dude that we hated,
he got shot.
The guy was overacting.
He got shot up.
And he overacted when he got shot.
Yeah, he did.
The blonger got killed upstairs.
Ray got killed downstairs.
And I seem Busemi was in there somewhere.
Mr. Pink was in there.
I'm sure he got.
He lived.
think he lived.
I kind of want to say he was at the scene where they were,
they had Delicio and they were interrogating.
Yeah, that's right.
I think he made it.
Him and,
Gus.
Yeah,
he made it.
I don't even know what his name is in this.
But yeah,
he was Lance.
I don't like these names of choosing him.
Anyway, he's Gus.
You guys know what we're talking about.
Yeah,
he made it out because the,
the firefight spilled out into the streets.
I assume they were in Brooklyn.
Um, they fell out into the streets and they were still gunning up.
Jimmy jumped into, no, um, Frank came hauling ass in the limo and Jimmy jumped into it and jumped into the limo.
I was like, yeah, and he started shooting.
And then one of the cop or one of the, they didn't know what was cops at the time.
Uh, one of the mass guys ran up and grabbed the door and was hanging on trying to jump into the limo.
And then, uh, I don't know why Jimmy just didn't shoot him because he was shooting everyone else.
but Frank just went hauling top speed kind of onto the close to the curb and slammed that caught or that that guy that before before he slammed him into that fire hydrant Jimmy pulled the mask off and it was like oh fuck these guys are cops yeah it was Caruso's little brother yeah and then that's when they gunned it and
I know it was a dummy but they fuck I mean it was a ruthless kill man he just
just slammed him right into that,
that, that sound.
Yeah, that fire hydrant that did not give at all.
So, yeah, he was dead.
If he wasn't dead, man, he paralyzed forever.
So they were like, ah, so they were all,
they just fucking, they just all jumped in their cars
and were running after him or driving after him.
So they had this huge car chase.
And it was like two police cars,
undercover police cars
Jimmy's fucking just
firing
hanging out of the window and everything
Frank is just
driving that limo all over the place
hauling ass
I think we jumped ahead
no no no no no we didn't we didn't
I'm sorry so they
um
they were I think I know they were on the bridge
I can't remember
I don't know what I'm thinking they went through a tunnel
and then
Frank did something
and those cars crashed.
Yeah.
And so like, I don't think anyone else died at that point.
So they ended up
crashing.
And Frank and Jimmy just kept hauling ass.
So
one of the other cars,
I think Wesley
chased him
him and
David Caruso
they followed him
and they found him
no no they were driving down the road
looking around really slow
and this is when the limo came
coming out of the darkness
and slammed into them
and then
Jimmy jumped out
and started running
Wesley went running after him
what the hell was Wesley's name
Thomas Thomas
Landigan.
Yeah.
So he goes right in after him, after Jimmy.
And Caruso runs over to the limousine.
Just opens fires on there.
And then he looks in there and Frank's not there.
So he's like, fuck.
So Jimmy kind of runs and hides.
And I just remember there was like hobos walking around wherever they were.
He was running.
And Wesley comes running around.
Hey, Jimmy, where are you?
I got some chival.
chicken for you, man.
So he's looking around and then here comes Jimmy.
They were like by a trailer, one of a big semi-trailers.
He comes walking around and he ends up blasting Wesley.
And he falls down.
He's laying there.
And then Jimmy's like, hey, man, where's my chicken at?
And then because he like unloaded on his chest because he took a few rounds.
to the chest so he goes down
and he was just about
to give him pumping another one but that's when
Caruso came around
gunned up Jimmy and he fell
ah
he was laying there screaming and I was
it hurts
and then he starts laughing
because Caruso
runs over to
Flanagan Wesley
and he's like you're all right man you're all right
But when he opens up his shirt, he sees that he has a vest on.
But I don't think they, they work when you were kind of point blank.
Yeah.
Because he had that.
Go ahead.
No, go ahead.
I was going to say you could clearly see one went through the vest.
Because, yeah, he had that big pool of blood.
It was like that Italian horror blood.
It was like bright red.
Just sitting there.
He was like, you're all right, man.
He was trying to calm him down.
I thought that was cool.
Like, yeah, man, you're all right, man.
You'll be fine, man.
We'll be good.
You got your vest on.
He was here.
I'll help you breathe.
And then that was it.
He just, he died.
Yeah, it seemed like he was more upset about him dying than his brother.
Yeah.
He sat up and he was like, fuck.
And then Jimmy's there.
Ha, ha, ha, motherfucker.
And he just walks up to him and a point blank shoots him in the head.
So he's dead.
So.
It's just Frank and whoever else survived that whole, that whole battle.
Bishop was in there, so he, I'm sure he found out about it later, but we go to a big, huge funeral.
And it's for Caruso's brother and Flanagan, Wesley.
They do all that.
They have the big flags over the coffins and all, all the police departments there.
So Caruso's there, and he just loses it.
And then he just goes run into his car and fucking gets in and can't start the car.
Like, I'm a motherfucker.
He's just he's just hella mad.
Here comes this limo.
Just rolling real slow.
No one's really paying attention because there's all kinds of other limos and black cars there.
He just rolls right up.
And he goes, hey, man.
And he takes a shotgun blast to the head.
I was like, damn.
And you can agree
No cops were trying to catch Frank
At that time
Frank was the one that shot
Caruso in the head
But yeah man
I mean as soon as that happens
Everyone hears it and they all go running
The blu the limo takes off
Um
You yeah during
I don't know how many cops were there
Only one of them had a gun out
Everyone's running around and ducking and hiding
And he's like, you couldn't jump in a car and go riding after him.
But I don't know, movie.
Yeah, Bishop got there before most of them.
Yeah.
A couple of guys kind of quit running.
It was like, oh, man.
I was like, you guys didn't want another frank.
So, yeah, after he kills him, he kills them, this is when they find, we go to, I don't know,
they're like in a basement of something.
And that's when they have,
what's his face?
Delisio.
And they're trying to tell him what was going on.
And they told him that, yeah,
they gave me all kinds of money.
And then it was, all right, man.
He goes, well, you got that money?
Frank looked at him.
He goes, you got all that money,
and bury him with it.
And they were like, ah,
because it looked like they beat the shit out of him first.
Yeah.
And they said they found the money on him.
Yeah.
had the money. I was like, what?
You can't even deny it after that.
Oh, excuse me. Yeah, just bury
him with it. I don't know. They probably kept it.
But yeah, Frank goes walking
off and you just hear a gunshot, so he's dead.
And he tells, he tells everybody
to put a $250,000
bond on any detective
that was involved.
That's crazy.
I mean,
I guess it's just crime lords.
I mean, nobody
is safe, cops, everything.
I mean, they didn't care.
Because, yeah, okay, after the
250,000 bounty on every detective involved in the case,
is that when Bishop went in,
how did Bishop show up?
Bishop had went back home.
Oh, that's right.
Sitting in the apartment waiting for him.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
And then he was,
was he there to kill him or just let him know what was up
I think he was letting him know what was up
because he basically told him how he was helping them
because he said he was killing all these bad people
and he was saying some of them was involved in prostitution
and child pornography and all kinds of crazy shit
and he was getting rid of everybody
and so he was basically he was trying to paint the picture
that he was the good guy and
Frank wasn't having none of it.
Yeah.
I mean, but that,
I mean, that was true.
I mean, all the guys he killed.
I mean, yeah, they were doing dirt and everything.
And he was doing it well.
I mean, he was doing all the dirt as well,
but he wasn't doing the crazy shit they were doing.
Because he was about business and everything.
And he wasn't doing anything perverted or anything
on the side like all.
all these guys so that's why pretty much why he dusted all those dudes the the the triads the
mafia guys and the the Colombians and everyone else but they just had to take out those cops
because those are the ones that they came in and just tried to kill them they weren't going
they weren't there to arrest them they all rolled in there to kill them and then they all got
dealt with so they had they killed all of them every one of those dudes the brother
Crusoe, Flanagan,
and Bishop was the last one.
Yeah, so when he told,
when Frank told him all that,
I think he was just that attempt,
because he didn't kill him.
He handcuffed him to the chair or whatever.
And then Frank walked out.
And then that's when Bishop jumped up,
ran over to his desk,
pulled out of his spare gun,
shot the handcuffs,
and then went running after him.
So Frank just,
I don't know why he didn't have.
have a car waiting. He just, he just walked.
For some reason, he was just fascinated
with the subway. I think
I think it made him,
I think it made him, they,
they did that to make the character feel like
he was, like
it, like, just like everybody else. He was
you know, like, like the,
you know, just like a regular person,
you know. Yeah.
Well, I assume that this bishop guy
lives somewhere close to Times Square,
because he just goes walking right through there.
And what I like about that scene,
I don't think they really controlled the crowd
Because you see everybody looking at Christopher walking
As he's just walking through the crowd of streets
Times Square
And then he walks down into the subway
And that's when Bishop goes running after him
And he's looking around in the trains
And Frank is just sitting there
With all the other train riders
and then Bishop comes on like all right man come on that's it Frank
this is this is it man you're you're under arrest
and then Frank gets up and then just pulls out his gun
and he grabs a hostage what did he what did he say?
I don't remember because I know he's he asked you
because he was like I've you don't let me go I'm gonna kill her
and he goes you got a family don't you and she's like yes sir
So he's just pointing the gun at her and just like
It's either you or me or her
And then Bishop's like come on man
And then fucking Bishop just like fuck it
She lets off a few rounds and then Frank just
Doodd go unloads into Bishop
Talk about overacting
He falls down under the ground
And he's like
You know he got hit multiple times
and he just he just wouldn't die he but he had that like i got to get frank i got because he kept
trying to get up and holding his gun up and then he just he finally just falls over and that's it
i assume he just let that girl go that lady go and she either jumped to the ground or ran off i
don't know yeah because i don't think he ever intended to hurt her uh-oh i think he was just trying
to get out get out of there we see frank he walks off the train he's got his trench coat on he kind of
closes it and he's walking, he's walking and goes up the stairs and people are running around.
A lot of people went hauling ass out of the train when they pulled out their guns.
Luckily, he was at a stop because if the train was going during all this, none of those people would have left.
Everyone would have just been still on the train.
So he walks up and he's back in Times Square again walking through.
I'm sorry, I jumped ahead everyone with the Times Square part.
So they must have stopped in Times Square.
is when we see him walking through there because if you guys have been through time square
traffic is just crazy down there no matter what time of day maybe not now because of what's
going on but so he just kind of gets into a cab and sits down and um i assume bishop must uh let out
a call to say hey frank white on the train this is the area because frank's sitting in in this cab
And then all of a sudden you hear you see all these black and whites come.
No, the thing they're blue and white in New York.
Anyway, cops.
They all come rolling up.
And then Frank's sitting there.
And you see him.
He kind of looks down.
And he's got his hand over his stomach.
And there's blood on it.
And he pulls his hand away.
And he got shot.
So he's like, ah, fuck.
And then he kind of holds up his gun because he sees the cops.
The taxi driver sees it, sees him holding up the gun.
And he's like, fuck that I'm out.
And he jumps out and runs, uh, telling another driver, hey, the guy's got a gun.
As the cops were all coming up, Frank is just sitting there looking out the window.
And then you see him just kind of, did he like lean back or I mean, I don't know, is it the head went down or he leaned back?
Yeah, he kind of leaned back and then close his eyes.
And then he just kind of dies.
Yeah, you just see his gun falling and credits.
But he did what he had to do.
I don't know who was next in line to come in and take over New York because he took out all the competition.
And then he got blasted.
Steve Bouchamie's taken over.
Either him or Gus, one of them.
So, but yeah, and that's King in New York.
This movie is awesome.
I mean, I've seen it multiple times.
I hadn't seen it in a while, so it was good to rewatch it.
So, King of New York, everyone.
Yeah, this was, this budget was super small.
It was $5 million to make it.
I don't know what the box office was.
Again, it might have been in just small little art theater.
It only boxed off as $2.5 million.
But I'm pretty sure I made a killing in VHS.
rentals and sales
But I just picked this up
On Blu-ray
A couple days ago
Who put this one out?
Lionsgate put it out
It's got
Audio commentary with the director
And I guess there's a short film
By the director
There's a schoolie-D music video
Yeah, I haven't heard that name in a long time
way back
yeah 90s everyone
but yeah king of new york
streaming to be as well as iMdb tv with ads
so if you guys haven't seen it
and we sold it to you definitely uh check this film out
all right bray
uh you're up what are we got next
all right uh i know for the action returns i did
uh zach sniders justice lee i got to stick with hvon max
and we got uh godzilla versus
versus Kong coming up.
So that's my pick.
When's that come out?
The 31st or the 30th, 31st or the 30th, 31st or when, as we're recording this next Wednesday.
Oh, okay.
So that's the next stream themed things?
Yeah, because.
Oh, justice is action.
Yeah.
I know we're not covering either of those movies.
So I got to do it on one of these shows.
Speaking of action in Justice League, we're going to have a guest with us.
The Zisu, the leader of the East Society.
The only Wonder Woman 84 fan, huh?
Yeah, he's going to come on with us.
We're doing the crossover with the action in East Society.
I told me, as I said, dude, come on, because I don't want to talk about it all over again.
with us.
So better just to do the crossover episode at once.
But, uh,
Justice League, I got a lot to say.
So, um,
just warning everyone now,
that one might be a long one.
Yeah.
But,
uh,
all right,
Kong,
uh,
no,
it's Godzilla versus Kong.
Yeah.
The original OG one,
King Kong versus Godzilla.
I'm gonna,
I'm gonna,
I'm gonna have to do a rewatch on that.
I love that one.
I know it's goofy and everyone don't like it, but I do.
Gee, 1963 when that one came out.
Not sure for that stream.
Oh, so it's available on Amazon.
But I don't know if it's streaming on there.
Yeah, I was going to put it on the horror returns,
but after we reviewed the trailer and Lance said those were probably the worst special effects he's ever seen.
just like, nah.
The original one?
No, the new one?
The new one?
Yeah.
Said the effects look horrible.
Brother Lance, you know I love you to death, man.
But come on.
What do you want?
They all can't be in the cemetery.
You'll be surprised at his scores on the latest episode of the horror returns.
You'll be real surprised.
In a way, I'm not.
But we'll see.
But all right, everybody, as far as East Society, we got another regular episode coming up really soon.
You'll probably get the crossover episode before that.
I don't know.
Zissu's work schedule is all over the place.
I don't know.
Might be before, might be after.
But either way, he's going to be on the next action with us.
And shoot on over to Skater Nest Podcast Network and listen to everything on there.
And again, thank you to Brian here for giving us more listeners and all you new listeners that do check us out.
Thank you so much.
You have, for the regular network, you got 500 episodes of a mixture of East Society, mainly East Society, as well as the Magnus Podcast, my solo show.
Big guys, that is coming back.
We are bringing that back.
blind Frankenstein,
aka Big Jesse.
It will be back in the house.
Happy birthday, Jess.
Yep.
We have that coming.
He can get back into the swing of things.
He took a break for a while.
So he's going to be back.
Hopefully horacopia and all that comes as well.
I don't know.
We'll see.
We got that coming.
And when you listen to everything we have on the regular network,
shoot on over to anchor.
Because there's about another.
300 or maybe close to 400
episodes over there dealing with
East Society and everything.
I can't believe
on how much
we have done
not just you and I.
I mean, you, on the regular episodes,
dude,
on the regular network is you and I all over them.
But yeah, five years in the game,
we're coming up five years for East Society as well,
and it's just more and more and more.
We got tons of ideas that we haven't even
touched yet. A list
It gets longer and longer, but
we're going to be back, hopefully, really
soon. So again, for your new listeners,
thank you and welcome.
And thanks for listening to Brian and I
here on THR Presents
Stream Fiends with King
in New York. So until next time,
you guys all be safe out there and
party out.
Yep, and by the time you hear this,
the episode
252 of the
horror returns,
year in 1985
the stuff and silver bullet
will be out
and that is the episode
if you know Lance
he will shock you with his scores
and next episode
will be part two in 1985
with Cat's Eye and Reanimator
and we will have guests
Ricky and Danny
from the Hell Ming podcast
and action returns
you got boss level out right now
and you'll have Zach Snyder's
Justice League soon
and, you know, after, of course, before you listen to this,
listen to our deep cover review on THR Presents Stream Feens
and got some more bonus episodes coming,
crossover episodes with ESP and THR.
So until until next time, everybody stays safe.
