The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #14: Belly (1998)

Episode Date: April 29, 2021

This episode Brian and Nez head out east to hit the streets with Buns and Sin in the 1998 Hype Williams classic BELLY.   Rest in Power DMX   Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.faceb...ook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns   

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm thinking you was a real dread, man. You scared? Because you're good. Hold on, hold on, wallon. You come in my house. Don't you ever bring scared business to me? You're looking at the toughest rasclar, Jamaican, in the United States of America. I run shit.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I kill for nothing. And I make lots of money. I deal with the business. Don't bring that shit to me. Again. You hear a man? Back everybody to another episode of T.A. H.R. Present stream beans. I'm your host Brian. With me as always. My brother, Nez. What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:00:51 Yo, man. Work, work, work, man. That's all I can do. And cold snowing again. It's supposed to be like 80 degrees in a couple days. And that's like fucking freezing now. So I don't know. Crazy weather here in California. Are you guys done with the cold? It was a nice day today. It was, I think last time I checked, it was like high 60s, like 69. Nice sunny day today. So can't complain. I think we hit like maybe 60, but it's 43 right now. And it's going to drop to by at least 32 and then come back up. That's still throwing my shorts on weather for me.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Hell no, man. I'm at the point of wanting to make a fire, but my wife's like, I hell no. I'm going to the store in shorts and some flip-flops. No, not me, man. So you got my sweatshirt and my long pants on. But.
Starting point is 00:02:02 All right. Who's, I don't even remember. Who is your pick or mine? I think it was a mutual thing because of, if anybody doesn't know where we are, talking about 1998's belly in honor of the late great DMX who recently passed. And I just want to say he had a great sendoff. I watched it online.
Starting point is 00:02:28 A lot of people showed up to his memorial. And they had a nice little, I guess, driving through the streets. They had a big monster truck with his name on the side carrying the casket in the back. and it was pretty nice except for the one dude that got up on stage claiming to be a close friend that they were trying to not let him get up there according to him and nobody knows who he is right we're just going to get to the movie here belly 1998 when was the first time you checked us out oh um it wasn't in a theater well where i was at um i think when it hit VHS,
Starting point is 00:04:23 someone brought it to work. And they were like, hey man, you like DMX? Now, at that time, I was kind of like, yeah, I mean, I heard a few songs. I wasn't really deep into him yet, but I knew who Nas was. I was like, oh, he goes, yeah, Nas and
Starting point is 00:04:38 with the T-Baz from TLC. And I was like, okay, man, whatever. Just throw it in. Let's see it. I guess someone he knew was friends with Hype Williams so that was one of the reasons why he was trying to hype it up so luckily no planes were coming in because I sat there and watched the whole movie
Starting point is 00:05:03 and I assume it was 98 99 I'm not sure whenever it came out on VHS is when I seen it I wasn't expecting much because I was like Nause is acting but right let's see what he can do movie said and done I was like damn that was hell of good and then I ended up buying it myself
Starting point is 00:05:28 on VHS and I loved it I mean every every form DVD is it on Blu-ray? Yeah it's out there it's out there on Blu-ray Okay well I guess I should be getting it then
Starting point is 00:05:41 but yeah man I love this movie It was one of those movies that I can throw on whenever and just enjoy it. It's not very long. It's only like an hour and a half, something like that, maybe hour and 40 minutes. But it was good. I was, I was more shocked at DMX because this was his first movie, right? I want to say, yeah. I mean, I'm double check here. Because I was a movie. Okay. This was two years before Romeo almost die. he was only in it for like a second in that one so um yeah i mean i was just like all right cool man uh i took it for what it was and i thought it was really good the one that impressed me the most was
Starting point is 00:06:33 dmx uh because he other than just being a street thug i mean he knew that life so we he did it just put it on screen uh set his lines did what he had to do and it was a really good move movie. Hi, Williams. I know I've seen other films of his, but this is the only one that really stood out to me the most. I don't even know what his other movies are really. I do if I don't have the list pulled up in front of me. So I know at that time he was he when at that time when hip-hop videos were like spending large amounts of money, he was like one of the go-to guys at that time when they when they well I guess people still are making videos but they just ain't they're spending like millions of dollars on them anymore so but so I'm
Starting point is 00:07:31 looking at his a filmography right now I'm just seeing nothing but videos so I thought he did some short short films not really sure I mean he's done so much he's done so much worked with everybody. Yeah, I'm looking here. It looked like he was originally going to do the Speed Racer movie. And then they went with the Wachowski's.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And I can't see any. I could have swore. I saw some short films he had done. And that's something in to someone else. No, no. He's done some short films. I know that. Okay. I don't think it's saying here, though. yeah he worked with everybody
Starting point is 00:08:23 Jamie Fox Kanye LL Janet Mabdit He was that guy Yeah he was Well Did I see cold play on this
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yeah cold play Okay You go where the work is Oh man J-Lo Beyonce Nicky Minaj Are you a Nicki Minaj fan
Starting point is 00:08:50 yes and no I know what she's capable of but I think because of the fame and her status she kind of got away from that and got into the more pop bubble gum radio friendly music
Starting point is 00:09:10 no more what's her song something fat pussy or wet I don't know Oh, that's, that's, that's, that's Megan the stallion. Oh, it is? Yeah. See, I had to get.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Now, now she, she, she can go on the mic. But I just, I mean, I don't mind it. I ain't going to lie. I don't mind the, the, the, the, the sexual, you know, lyrics and videos. But I just like when, when you can really go with, with the lyrics, when you got talent like that, I don't, I don't think it should be a thing that you have. to do, you know, but I guess that's, you know, sex sells.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yeah, it does. But I don't know. I'm just an old fart now, so I'm still listening to Fad Boys, DMC and them, the Houdini. Not wrong with that. Shit, I think I think
Starting point is 00:10:17 actually, yeah, I've seen this in the theater. I think it was just me and my two friends. We were like the only ones in the theater. And it was mainly because of DMX and Nas and then we heard Method Man's in it and sat there.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And yeah, it was I agree with you. Blown away by DMX. You know, he was clearly the best one out of this I don't even know if I want to call them actors because there was some bad acting going on in here. Nas,
Starting point is 00:10:51 you're a legend man, but stick to music. Tebas was horrible. Like I laugh every time that that one scene comes up when she's just like, to Africa? Hmm. That's far. You know, just, like, it's so bad.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And the one chick that plays DMX's a girl, Terrell Hicks, she's fucking horrible too. I'll let it slide. man and what got me was she wasn't bad in a Bronx tale yeah so I was kind of like
Starting point is 00:11:33 what happened here or maybe it was just going off of T-Baz because some of their dialogue with each other I was just like but I thought everybody else was fine you know I was you know method man I think that's a guy that's made to be in music and
Starting point is 00:11:51 movies So, what is his name? Tyron Turner, Kane. He kind of steals it for me because he has a memorable character in here, not just what he's saying, but his look. I'm not sure if that was the director or him that decided to go with that look, but I'm all fine with it because it makes me laugh every time I see it. But yeah, I like the story.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It goes by fast. You kind of, you know, you go through what they're going through kind of quickly. You know, their rise up to where they're at. And I guess their downfall and it just kind of, it goes, boom, boom, boom. You know, it hits all the, hits all the marks for me. And yeah, it's definitely, to me, it's a classic. It's a, it's for like hip-hop movies and gangster movies. It's a classic to me.
Starting point is 00:12:52 but you know some of the acting is what it is but you know i i i enjoy it every time i watch it um what what i loved about it was um if you watch hype williams all the videos that he's made he's got this certain kind of style and i don't know with maybe a certain kind of uh film that he used because this was all during the film era i'm sure it was slowly getting into the uh the digital age, but I just like how he did. A lot of low shots, he did.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And I don't know if it was just this movie or it's there was a lot of bright colors, but there was a lot of dark times on the screen where you really couldn't even see what was happening. I mean, I think the scene that I really love the most is when
Starting point is 00:13:50 sincere Nas is talking to Shorty, that little thugged out dealer and sitting in front of the projects in Queens. Oh, okay. Yeah. It was
Starting point is 00:14:04 the I don't know if he used the blue filter or what, but it just I don't know that that scene, I just liked the way he shot it. And the little kid that Shorty's name was Eric Keith McNeil.
Starting point is 00:14:21 For a little ass kid, I mean, sitting there's puffing on fat blunts and slaying. I was like, damn. I mean, it looked like he knew what he was doing. You could tell when someone's smoking that doesn't know how. It's just like puffing and big puff of smoke come out. No, you can tell when someone inhales. I don't know if it was weed.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Maybe it's probably just tobacco. But something about that scene I've always loved. Yeah, I see what you're saying. saying because I think it added to the because it kind of made I don't want to say the situation or the conversation was kind of down like that because he's
Starting point is 00:15:03 speaking about the reality of him being out there on the street corner and stuff like that so I think it just added to the whole mood yeah I mean this movie it I don't even think there was really any like happy times it seemed like it was just
Starting point is 00:15:21 a downer from from beginning to end I mean there was always something happening and it just the life of crime being out there doing it I mean I mean I know nothing of that life I grew up seeing it but I never really got into that stuff because moms would have whoop my ass so but I mean a lot of my friends fell into the dope game and some aren't here and some just did so much there's always that rule don't get high in your supply and then your brain did but I mean I love this movie I remember showing it to one of my buddies that knows nothing of this life only from what he sees on TV and on the screen and he was
Starting point is 00:16:09 always scared to come to come to our neighborhood because he was like he'd come pick me up and we'd go do whatever and he was always looking over his shoulder I'm like do what's the matter with you I don't know man I mean he was a white guy I don't feel right in this neighborhood. I'm like, dude, man, just don't worry about it. If you look scared, maybe someone's a good bother you. But it wasn't like he was rolling hard, man. He had a beat up a bull car with different colored doors and crack windshield and all that.
Starting point is 00:16:39 But it was the first car he ever bought. He actually put it together himself and got it running. That's why it was all pieced up. It ran to God us from A to B. But yeah, this movie, it was cool, man. I mean, it spoke to me at times. I mean, just because of the stuff that I'd seen growing up, but I really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I mean, I thought the acting, yeah, I understand Nas and I can understand T-Baz. But there was some, there was a couple of other guys that maybe they're still acting. I don't know. But you can see that they were phoned it in. But overall, I mean, the whole movie, I mean, definitely, like Brian said, It's a hip-hop classic and definitely a DMX classic. He's done tons of movies.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Big parts, little parts with, I couldn't even tell you how many where he was the actual star. I know he was in the process of making some new ones, but then we all know what happened. I mean, I never dove. I don't know if the family are releasing. anything but um i heard that i heard the album was done oh was it yeah um i think uh they were talking about how he he was working in a snoop studio and i think they was about to you know start to roll out for the album and you know tragically he passed away so yeah well uh we got tons of music to listen too and the movies that he had done
Starting point is 00:18:23 we can still enjoy those I mean his legacy and hip-hop is there and no one can take it away I know I've said this before with his lyrics some people may not agree with it and I understand that
Starting point is 00:18:41 I mean you guys probably don't even like half the shit that I say but it's just I mean it's hip-hop man I mean that's go if you're your history
Starting point is 00:18:54 hip-hop is really wide and open I mean you can listen to everybody go back to the beginning and listen to lyrics up to all now I know a lot of these fools are calling this
Starting point is 00:19:06 the PC era yeah I understand I understand but I'm still I'm still in it man I keep up with things
Starting point is 00:19:18 and there's a lot of shit that I don't I don't I don't see how they call it the PC area. Now, a lot of people get, try to put them in that cancel culture shit or shit they say. That a lot of that goes on. I think,
Starting point is 00:19:37 I think sometimes, I know we should be talking about the movie, but I think sometimes, it's more mainly dealing with, um, whoever's big at the time. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:19:49 I mean, all the underground stuff, that nobody knows about me to say what the hell you want. No one's going to care. But I think they go more after whoever's who's big. I don't even know who's big now.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah, because I almost feel like people are just waiting. Oh, yeah. Because there's a rapper. I'm pretty sure you don't know. His name is Sada Baby. He, he's out of,
Starting point is 00:20:16 I think he's out of Detroit. Had a hit song. Really started, you know, popping off and then people hit him with the I remember these tweets you had from years ago but the thing with him was like he was not apologizing for anything he said
Starting point is 00:20:33 years ago it is what it is and you know stuff like that I just kind of feel like the people are just waiting like oh this this person's about to make it big so let me let me go through the social media and dig up some you know and that I just that drives me crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah, I mean, let's just say for whatever reason, you and I become huge doing this show. Of course someone's going to be digging back, listening to every, all the old stuff we had done or just searching our names and all that. I mean, I mean, yeah, I guess that's how it is. I mean, the internet can be good or bad. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I mean, I don't apologize for the stuff I say. I mean, I don't really go radical with some of the things I say. But I always do with the, it's my opinion. I mean, so, I mean, that's all I can say. But, I mean, I do watch what I say. I don't, I don't degrade women or promote bad things. I mean, I don't do stuff like that. But yeah, I got a foul mouth and I talk a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:21:55 But if you know me, I mean, you know me. I mean, if you really, all of all of you, all of you that know me like on a personal level, you know how I am. You know how I roll. So, but I don't know. Um, yeah, belly. Yeah, let's talk about the movie. You guys know how we do it here. Um, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:20 To get us back into the movie, one of my favorite scenes, I love it so much, is the opening. Because you got that just that dark night club and with the black light. And you got the, what's the song, Soul to Soul, Back to Life. It's, it's the acapella part that just, that really does it for me. It's the acapella as they're like going through the club. and then as soon as the robbery happens, then the beat kicks on. And I love this opening.
Starting point is 00:22:55 What I loved about it is how the slow motion he used. I don't know if he had them put contacts in their eyes because as they're walking along, you can see the whites of their eyes. I think that looked just like just tough. I loved all that. It's like a music video. yeah I mean
Starting point is 00:23:18 well you can that's what I said you can clearly see that if you watch his videos and then watch this movie you could you could see his style of filmmaking and that's what I loved about it um but this all this is the beginning of this film
Starting point is 00:23:35 has taken place in 1999 in Queens and New York and yeah Buns DMX or aka Tommy and Sincere.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I have to. This, O, Nas did not make no sense here. Tommy, Bundy, or he says something, Buns or Tommy for short,
Starting point is 00:23:58 or he said something. I was like, that does not, it's not short for buns. I don't know. I don't get it. I don't know. But these two guys,
Starting point is 00:24:10 they grew up together. So, I mean, they've been boys since they were kids and, they were out there doing dirt since they were kids probably but yeah they just roll up why did they roll in there and rob this nightclub just to do it or that's what they did they just they just seemed like they just got money however however they can okay i thought
Starting point is 00:24:36 there was a reasoning for why they went in there and uh killed the chick there was running a place because when they roll up in there man plus I love this scene right before they walk through the whole club as they're going up the stairs they put on these white um just like ski masks or whatever and then they just roll in silencers
Starting point is 00:24:57 and start letting whoever's in that room get it and I assume because they said yeah we got that bitch so I assume it was the lady because she was the one that went push flying out the window right onto the dance floor fell on somebody But they just grabbed all the money and just bont out of there.
Starting point is 00:25:20 So yeah, they're just, yeah, man. They take off. This scene, I love it. I mean, they end up going to Tommy's house, DMX. And they were just going to count the money because it was them two or them three because there was another guy in there with them. I think somebody named him. Mark and a guy named Black.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Black was the guy that they were always talking shit to. Was he the one that took the car? Yeah. The getaway car and he took off and got rid of it. So Mark went back to the house with Tommy and Sincere. I love this scene because when Tommy
Starting point is 00:26:04 walks in and he goes, oh, you know, man, watch this man. This shit's bugged out. And he turns on Harmony Carine's gummo. Have you seen that movie? that's a fucked up movie the first time I saw that I was like what the hell I was like what is this it's the scene when if you guys have seen the film
Starting point is 00:26:21 it's the scene when those two little cowboys are talking shit to that one kid that never spoke in the whole movie with the bunny ears you fucking rabbit you smell like fucking piss or shit you smell like a pound
Starting point is 00:26:37 a bullshit oh man that seems crazy Look up gummo little cowboys or whatever on YouTube. And it's, yeah. It was nuts. I mean, I'm sure. I'm sure Harmony Corrine is, his friends with Hype Williams.
Starting point is 00:26:54 That's probably why they put it in there. One of my buddies, James, he was like, oh, man, I've seen that movie. That's that movie, Gummo. And that's what I'm like, what? So we found it on VHS and watched it. it's a movie yes it sure is
Starting point is 00:27:16 I love that movie I love Harmony Corrine I didn't like that last movie he did no not the last movie Spring Breakers with um James Frank James Frank they stole what's his name's whole
Starting point is 00:27:35 gimmick or that rapper riff raff that movie was a whole horrible. I mean, Harmony Corrine, I mean, he's done a lot of good shit, but that, nah, bring breakers, it was garbage. Too much of a budget, I think. But anyway, um, they're sending in the counting of money and, uh, Mark is the one. He goes, let's start counting this money before you guys start hiding it. And DMX, Buns, Tommy, Bundy, whatever you guys want to call him. I had a friend like this. You cannot joke.
Starting point is 00:28:14 around about anything and well anything serious and yes this was about money but when your boys you joke around but uh buns took it seriously like man I mean you heard my feelings say sorry and Mark is like is this guy for real and he goes all man I'm sorry I'm sorry but then he yelled at him really he goes hey man he's you better keep it down or uh what the hell was her name Keisha she didn't come down and then And that's when Nause starts talking about Keisha. Yeah, she's got big tits, big ass, black. And don't give a fuck or whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:52 A get on I. Amy Campbell. Yeah. Ooh. I don't know none about her acting except for this in Bronx Tale, but God damn, she's fine. I think she tried to be a singer and that didn't work out. I think she's beautiful. I mean, I liked her when she was in Bronx Tale. he was only in there for a little bit towards the end but um so this is what they do i mean they're they're
Starting point is 00:29:21 just trying to get their money anywhere they can um we we go to nass sincere's house this is when he introduced to his wife uh teon played by t-bos and they have a little kid they got a nice big house somewhere i mean like not a big house but just a nice house um tommy was the one that had the huge big mansion type of house. So we just kind of get to know them and everything. He's got the little family. But then Tommy, he starts just trying to make that next dollar, trying to make that big, the big money.
Starting point is 00:29:58 So he finds out some stuff about some kind of new wave heroin or something. They're saying it was like, whatever it is, it was that thing. It was at the experimental stage. I was saying it's so good to fuck you up. I mean, you don't need to shoot it up. You don't need to smoke it, snort it, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:19 All they said, all you got to do is touch it. And it gets in your skin. And I don't know what everyone does. But so he was, Tommy was trying to get a sincere. Like, come on, man. We got to do what we got to do, man. Let's just make this money. So he was kind of like, well, all right.
Starting point is 00:30:38 man I mean I'll roll with you but um Tommy had to see um there was this Jamaican drug lord ox yeah rest in peace Louis Rankin did you have to put the subtitles on that first couple times I could not understand him I I don't I'm not gonna say I understand but I understand a little bit because um uh growing up my wife uh I met her from her brother and her cousins because I grew up with them and one of their cousins, her boyfriend was from Jamaica and he used to talk like that. But now, now he's more, you can understand him now, but a little, little bit I understand.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I kind of catch it, but there's times when I'm like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. That was my friend. They were from Jamaica, but they, he was, well, his parents were from Jamaica. and he was born here. I remember his mom and dad had that accent, but I don't know how long they were in America and it was just slowly going away.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Or maybe I was just around him a lot that I was able to understand it. But I remember when he had some family come in, I could not understand them at all. I mean, I caught words here and there. I mean, especially with the slang because my friend talked that way. Because I remember when I first met it
Starting point is 00:32:05 when he was saying the slang words, I was like, what? And then he went, oh, and then he would tell me. I was, oh, okay. And then as we got to know each other, I mean, he'd throw them in. But I knew what he was saying because he explained him to me. But I remember sitting there in the backyard and she was just talking, talking. And I was, she even said, I understood this.
Starting point is 00:32:27 She didn't even understand me. And I was like, okay. And they were all laughing. She always came up and gave me a hug. But yeah, this. guy ox man he was just straight what he called himself he was the original
Starting point is 00:32:41 the original Jamaican donda I mean I had no this scene I I watched enough time so I knew what he was talking about but then later on when he's
Starting point is 00:32:56 when he's when these when he's the hit squad goes after him I had to put the subtitles on that one but so um Tommy was it was talking to ox come on man i know you got the connections and and we can make this money and then uh ox was kind of all right man well you know what he goes i got you i hook you up but you're gonna owe me favor later on
Starting point is 00:33:21 you're like all right man cool whatever so they started up uh with uh with the with the heroin and i mean they were they were doing what they were doing uh in new york oh excuse me but this scene right here was nuts man because they were down there counting up the money uh after they were selling because they were just kind of like a montage of them slinging him and uh this is one there it was Tommy sincere I think Mark Black and a couple of the guys were in there and Black was the one was there was sitting there drinking the 40 right yeah man I ain't gonna say his name but I knew a guy like this
Starting point is 00:34:04 I did two. I knew a couple of guys like this. But they were all sitting there. I mean, they're just smoking and the discounting the money. But then he was just sitting there not even saying anything. And then they were, I mean,
Starting point is 00:34:23 hanging out with your boys, you get the clowning. And then he took it all serious. Yeah, because you can, you can see his expression. And DMX even says that he's like, I feel a lot of heat coming off that couch.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Yeah, because then when he got up, like he was going to do something, spilled his beer and they're like, oh, hey, all the money's right here. As him, DMX walked up on him. Like, yeah, man, he had to clocked him and then pulled out his gun, strip, made him take off all his clothes.
Starting point is 00:34:55 He was scared. He was like, oh, man, man, come on, come on, come on. Everyone was just laughing, and he just stripped, and then Tommy let off a couple shots. in the house. Yeah, mind you, I think they're in somebody's grandma's
Starting point is 00:35:08 basement. Yeah. So he, like, just made him, just made him strip and had him sitting on the couch naked and everything. You can get yours,
Starting point is 00:35:18 you can get yours be. And there they are. All right, man, whatever. You're going to get yours. You're going to get yours. I thought he was going to start crying.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I thought he was for a second. But, um, because there were saying um i mean after after that thing um they were dealing um
Starting point is 00:35:41 they had another guy come in some guy named knowledge yeah and um they were uh Tommy kind of did was Tommy the one to overheard them talking about they were gonna um they were gonna rob sincere for his part of the money
Starting point is 00:35:57 yeah all right so they kind of got into that but um they didn't really do anything. I think kind of Tommy just kind of, you know what, let me just chill, but everything was all good.
Starting point is 00:36:12 So as they were starting to get the, the heroin going, and then they left Queens and they went to Omaha, Nebraska, just to, all right, man, we can go down there, we can sell, we can stay here, and we can just make our money down there
Starting point is 00:36:28 because everybody wants drugs down there. So they basically rolled in this, these new guys, rolled into someone else's territory and um what was that guy's name big head riko yeah aka cane from menace society big head rico yeah so they were down there doing they kind of had a montage of them slinging and everything but then they go cruising there was uh buns and or Tommy and sincere driving down the street and a big and his crew came out man what was up with that perm.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I don't know, but he was enjoying that banana. I'm going to drop a dime on them. I don't like that. I'm like this at all. Which is, it's just weird. He just, the first thing that comes to his head is he's going to snitch.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I know, man. I mean, it was not even though thinking about anything. That was the first thing out of his mouth. I'm going to drop a dime on them. I was kind of like, man, try to handle it first.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And if you can't, then if you got it then do that but um he already had the block locked down and here come these two new guys trying to run everything which obviously they were because if everyone was buying for them because big was like man my pockets are getting small so i don't know what they were slinging must have been like i guess good enough for the locals there until tommy and bunn showed up or Tommy and since they showed up and then um i assume this was that new the heroin that they were talking about because they kind of they just talked about it and then that was it
Starting point is 00:38:08 and the next thing you know they show them selling it so a big head Rico so they they were kind of um oh man after they dealt with uh big head rego he they never he didn't have no scenes with them
Starting point is 00:38:28 right no okay so um oh he uh that's right he did he he told uh he called the cops and told them what was up so that's when they raided the house uh their stash house and um mark was the one because they was like in um it wasn't a house weren't they kind of like a little small like two level project area? Yeah. So when the cops busted in on them, grabbed everybody in there, Mark was the
Starting point is 00:39:04 one that was on the roof that jumped out the window. And then he was just trying to run and the cops rolled up and they started shooting on him. And he took one to the shoulder. And then he was just, he was firing back of the cops and he just jumped in the car
Starting point is 00:39:20 and hauled it off. And barely made it a block and he crashed. Yeah, because he passed out. Yeah, he's adrenaline wasn't good. It didn't look like he lost that much blood, but he just, luckily he did pass out because when he crashed into the back of that semi-trailer, dude, that shit would have killed him because I would have smashed.
Starting point is 00:39:42 That would have smashed his heads because the cops ran over there, pulled him out. So he didn't die, did he? Or did, no, he did die. Yeah, because you didn't hear from him. Yeah, so, oh, knowledge was the one that got arrested and whoever else was on that. So knowledge was in jail He got a hold of Tommy He was like hey man
Starting point is 00:40:03 Come bail me out And he's kind of like all right I'll deal with you So what Tommy was just kind of pussyfooting around And wouldn't do it because I know they had that phone call When Knowledge called Let me see It was method man
Starting point is 00:40:24 But what was his name? Shameek Yeah he called him and told him was like, hey man, this fool name Big Head Rico kind of dropped the dime on us. So I kind of need you to help me out. So he was like, all right, man. So he, Shemeek, went to Omaha, Nebraska,
Starting point is 00:40:46 and was just trying to find out who this guy was, who Big Head Rico was. So he kind of found out he rolled up on them because Rico was running his business out of a bar. barbershop and then one of his guys came in, hey man, there's this guy out here, man. He wants to meet. He wants to meet whoever's in charge.
Starting point is 00:41:05 So big head Rico goes out there and just, he must be little because all his guys were hell of big. And that perm, man, I can't get over it. I mean, it was like a sloppy perm at that. One of his boys that was with him had the better perm. It was more crimped and everything. his shit was probably real yeah i don't think being that looked like a wig it's probably why it looked bad and his thick-ass glasses so he ended up going to get this i didn't get this whole scene i didn't get
Starting point is 00:41:43 why method man uh shemique had to go undercover and then the lead up to this where you know they're they're in the strip club you know getting to know each other and drinking and then they they drug method man yeah i didn't i didn't get why they did that they didn't troops serum or something i don't know i think we're just gonna make him pass out and they're gonna kill him or rob them or i don't know what they were gonna do uh but i don't know it's not like they gave him some kind of date rape drug so i don't know what's going on here yeah i don't know so i mean if I get drinks in a bar,
Starting point is 00:42:30 that shit's in my hand soon as the bartender hands it to me. But yeah, so they're sitting there bullshit in the strip club and Big Henrico dumped some kind of powder and Shemique's called in his shot
Starting point is 00:42:46 and he powers that and then they start kind of talking about business and then all of a sudden you see him just like, oh myrude kind of what the fuck's going on getting the double vision him. Big Head Rico pulls out his gun, like he's going to do
Starting point is 00:43:00 something. Shemick pulls his out. No, he pulls two of them out. He blast Big Head Rico. He goes crashing down. At this point, he's not seeing straight, because he's just firing off
Starting point is 00:43:16 his pistols in every direction. He kind of gets his back to the door and the bartender pulls out a shotgun. I'm surprised I didn't kill him unless he had a vest on. Yeah, he had a best. Okay, because that was not point blank, but close enough.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And it blew him out. And luckily the cops were coming by unless somebody called the cops right when the shooting started. Because he rolls outside, Shemeek Method Man, and he's just firing at the cops. and then his buddy's outside in the car, they jump in and take off. So, that, Shemique went in there to kill Big Head Rico
Starting point is 00:44:05 just because he dropped the dime on them. And that was pretty much it for them. Yeah, that was that story. Yeah, because, yeah, there was stories all over in this one. But Tommy and them,
Starting point is 00:44:18 that's when Tommy found out when Knowledge called him and told him that, they got everything and they're not anything do about it so Tommy's like man fuck man I mean what are we gonna do man we got to get ox's money and everything and then so well then you know we can do so um they find out the the cops find out no no no no not yet um Tommy's got to do that favor for ox yeah because uh ox called him up to say hey man I got we got to go
Starting point is 00:44:55 so Tom is like all right man so he kind of just tells us and see him now I'm going out of town so they fly off to Jamaica all right this part was it was kind of trippy I didn't get what was going on Tommy and Ox are sitting in the car talking and Ox is kind of explaining him okay this this is what I want you to do
Starting point is 00:45:17 uh there's this there's this guy named Sosa and Sosa was like the son of whoever the local drug lord was down there. So I guess that drug lord, him and ox, don't see eye to eye, so I'm a kill his son. Or you're going to kill his son. And then everything's going to be good between us. But anyway, while they're talking,
Starting point is 00:45:40 do those little kids that just come running them? That one's holding the gun and they're knocking on the window. What? Were they trying to sell the gun? No, I think they were letting them know that they're down to do whatever. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, because Ox told him because yeah, this is the ghetto where they were driving through.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So, but I was never the one for reggae, dance hall type of stuff that's going on. But, I mean, I like the dance hall stuff. But some of the traditional reggae that's just more slow and mellow. I don't know. I just could never really.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I can listen to it, but I can never really get down, get down with it. Like the stuff that was going to be bumping in these, um, and these clubs, that was cool. Yeah. And was that, um,
Starting point is 00:46:37 hell's that fool name. Sean Paul. Was that him on stage? Okay. Yeah, that was, this was, uh,
Starting point is 00:46:42 pre pre fame Sean Paul. Oh, before he, uh, before he was doing songs with Beyonce where Jay Z was, overseeing the video because you know you can't touch biance you perform over there was that song you had oh uh was that to forget about your boyfriend and me me in the hotel room
Starting point is 00:47:12 is that him i don't know is that shaggy no i don't i think it was shawapel i don't know um i i would somebody knows but um the reason I ask is because when I saw him I was like I think that's Sean Paul I mean but I couldn't tell you any of his music but whatever they were doing on stage was good so and uh so because yeah they rolled through that club
Starting point is 00:47:43 I mean just to because Ix are telling yeah man we're yeah I and get you chicks and this and that but he goes we got uh I think that's when he showed him uh when he told him who uh Sosa was. I think when they went to the club is when he had to see him. And what was up with the chicken feathers
Starting point is 00:48:04 in Sosa's hair? I, you know, it might be a cultural thing. I don't know. Or maybe that was just his style or something. So, yeah, because they told him that. And while all this is going on since
Starting point is 00:48:20 he was back in New York, just trying to, other than keeping his family together, but was this a scene when he was telling Tebas, he was like, look, man, he goes, I want to get out of this life, we should move
Starting point is 00:48:36 to Africa. Was that during this time? Africa. Oh, that's far. T.B. Yeah. I think this is a little montage of him basically wanting to get his life together, and he's like, he's reading books
Starting point is 00:48:53 and expanding his mind and seeing that, you know, they don't want to raise his family around this life anymore. I don't know what part of Africa they wanted to go to, but my friend, my buddy right now, he lives over there. He used to live in South Africa. He's from Ghana, and he's back there now. And he's like, it's messed up over there. He goes, man, I need to get back to America.
Starting point is 00:49:20 He's got kids over here. But he wants, he goes, I just want to come back to America. America because I guess where he's at is just out of control. He said, it is a war zone. Yeah. I said, okay,
Starting point is 00:49:33 I believe him. I believe him because he, because he messaged me every now and then. I always got to check on him, make sure he's all right. He actually got shot some years back. And I got shot in the lake. Something was going down and he caught a stray one and then ended up amputating
Starting point is 00:49:54 his leg. but he got a lot of acting jobs down there because I had seen some pictures he was dressed up like a soldier and his pants was all shredded up and I was like dude what's from there I was in this movie
Starting point is 00:50:07 and I was one of the soldiers that lost his leg and I was like oh damn but whatever he is doing now in Ghana he says it's out of control so Tommy's there and I liked how he did this
Starting point is 00:50:20 I was a Sosa and I guess his girlfriend or whatever in some car and Tommy comes rolling out Hey, hey, he's got Her dreadlock wig on He's pounding on He's pounded on the window
Starting point is 00:50:33 Wash your windows, watch your windows Give me a dollar or whatever So, so so rolls The window down Tommy pulls out his gun And every gun they had pretty much Had a silencer, he just pulled that a long silencer too He pulled that out Pumped a couple into him
Starting point is 00:50:49 I'm surprised he didn't kill the girl Because she, ah! She jumped out of the car and took off and Tommy walks away, camera pulled back, we see Sosa laying there just full holes. So they end up oxen, Tommy ended up taking it all back to America. But when, while right before Tommy got back home, when knowledge and all those guys got busted,
Starting point is 00:51:21 knowledge called what's her name Keisha from jail looking for Tommy and then I guess that's using the jail phone they traced it to him
Starting point is 00:51:39 so they went over there and raided his house because I'm sure they record all the calls that come out of jail oh yeah so that's how the cops they went in, kicked in the door, and raided her, raided that house looking for Tommy, but he wasn't there, but she was, so she ended up going to jail. And then, because when Tommy rolled up, he saw, like, he said it was the feds, because when he rolled up to his house, he saw all the cops there, all the cars and the lights were on.
Starting point is 00:52:12 He was like, ah, man, so he bumped out. That's not real. They would have got him. They would have locked down that whole neighborhood. yeah because he got close enough to to see the house that they would have it blocks you can't drive up and then all of a sudden reverse quickly out we can't it doesn't work like that yeah for the movie it had to well they couldn't focus in on the house if he stopped way down the street especially something big like this if it was the feds man yeah that would have close on off that whole pretty much that whole neighborhood so she goes down he take Tommy takes off uh hooks up with sincere calls him hey man where you been and then he was come on coming over and he came out and that's when the Tommy told him look man the feds were in my house they got
Starting point is 00:53:09 kisha everybody's going down and they're trying to figure out well what happened and that's when they figured out that it was um it was knowledge uh was a one that was a one that called the house. I don't know how Tommy figured it out, but yeah, he figured it out. So they were trying, like, man, what are we going to do? What are we going to do? Because that's your man. That's your man.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I mean, everything is just went to hell. So he's like, damn, what am I going to do? Because they didn't know what to do. So he ends up just leaving town. he kind of just Tommy takes off At this point The cops really don't know
Starting point is 00:53:56 Sincere's involvement in it all So We go back to Jamaica The The drug lord Sosa's father I think his name Was some guy named
Starting point is 00:54:09 Phelp Or Phelpa I can't pronounce the name Um No no he don't Pelp was a close friend of Sosa's and he's the one
Starting point is 00:54:24 that found out the ox was the one that had Sosa killed. So that's when Sosa's dad, whoever the drug lord he was, he had they hired some hit squad to go out to come to America and get ox.
Starting point is 00:54:43 And ox is just, it was kind of reminded me of just like Scarface pretty much the same thing. is sitting there watching TV and he's hella high and luckily he looked down on his little computer screen that he had well I think that was a remote control but he saw all the he's got little screens on it so he saw all these guys running into his yard did he not have security I guess not I don't think anyone was there but him no I mean not even the housekeeper nobody he's just
Starting point is 00:55:19 one was gone. Sitting there watching TV with a giant bowl of weed. He must see. He was sitting on that AK because he jumped to the ground and pulled it out from under the cushions. And then he turned the, he turned the lights and the TV
Starting point is 00:55:35 off and then all these bullets come flying in. And then he just grabs his his AK and runs in, kind of runs out the hall. You want to romp with me? He goes, I am the original. I killed him for fun. And he just starts black.
Starting point is 00:55:53 I don't know how many fools rolled into the house, but he just was lighting everyone out. I mean, it was stupid to roll into a dark place with laser sighting. Because they can fucking see you. But he took him all out like a champ. He just rolled kind of like into the main entrance. And they were coming through from the roof. Because he was just blasting fools left and right. because he could see their laser sightings
Starting point is 00:56:20 because the house was dark. He kind of just slid onto the floor and wherever those lights were coming the red beams were coming from. He was just lighting everyone up. And who was this chick with the S&M mask? It was the female assassin
Starting point is 00:56:37 that apparently that's all they should have just sent was her because he never seen her coming. Uh-uh. Because she was creepy. When they were in Jamaica, of their shoulder. I was like, damn, who was this? So, but after he had done
Starting point is 00:56:54 killed everybody and he was the original, Don, Dada Jamaican of the United States. He said some other things, but I couldn't understand him. I understood, you want to rump with me? That's all I that's all I could make out. And
Starting point is 00:57:11 Bumba Cloud or whatever, I can't remember what that meant. he said a lot yeah so as he said they're still talking shit I mean everyone's dead because there's bodies laying everywhere
Starting point is 00:57:26 there's a laser sighting still pointing in pretty much up in the air because these guys are dead he's standing there still talking shit and you see this assassin lady with a I assume she had like S&M gear on or something
Starting point is 00:57:43 because she had one of those tight masks in her hair with the feathers and everything sticking out of the top and she did she jump right on to him or did she like land on the ground and get him kind of seemed like she kind of landed on him all right yeah because she jumped off the the second floor which was pretty high man it didn't look like it was a short jump she landed right on top of him he fell to the floor and then she pulled his neck back and slid his throat and that was the end of ox so So, yeah, no, we jumped ahead.
Starting point is 00:58:22 This is when Sincere was talking about, he was scared that Bons is getting too paranoid and all that. And he doesn't know what's going to happen. He goes, that's when he told his wife, T-Bos, that we should move to Africa. So they were going to plan on leaving because we were coming to the end of 1999. So while Tommy was just kind of laying low. he was still trying to make that money. So he ended up starting slaying weed. There was two guys in the beginning of the film.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Wise and my kid. Yeah, two talking about, man, we about this money. We bought this money. Because he was yelling at it. He goes, man, you guys want to make all this money? Because why don't you learn how to pack weed first? Because they had a pound or something. They would try to break, make whatever they could off of that.
Starting point is 00:59:36 know what's what did they even say? I don't know. Well, wherever they were. Tommy and Wise and La Kidd were sitting in some restaurant. Just drunk. I'm sure they were high talking shit. And then
Starting point is 00:59:54 Wise and La Kidd got into it. Because I just I don't know. Talking shit and one guy couldn't handle it and he pulled out his gun. I don't remember who it was. Stuck to gun and I tell you man this is what I think about it and they're like what and they will fuck you and then
Starting point is 01:00:10 both of them pull out guns and dude um only one of them got killed right and that the one took off yeah and DMX just was sitting there laughing smoking because he was trying to tell him that man you guys better chill before you guys do something
Starting point is 01:00:26 and when those guys pulled out their guns that that's when everybody in the restaurant went ah everyone started running and then they were still talking and shit and that's when that guy pulled out it says Laquid shot WISE
Starting point is 01:00:41 All right so La Cade must have just took off And the wise was laying there dead Yeah but Tommy was so drunk He just pulled out of blunts Or it was a cigarette or whatever it was Started smoking And then he got arrested But while he was in jail
Starting point is 01:00:58 Who did he call? Did he call? I don't know if he called anybody he called somebody when he was in there because he was saying oh no he did he called um sincere because he told him he said look man i can't be sitting in here he goes i need you to bail me out before his prints come back because if his prints come back that's when they were going to realize that he was a one that was with knowledge and all those guys when they raided his house so uh sincere went over there bailed him out he got out uh before anything happened so
Starting point is 01:01:35 sincere was like all right man he goes on i'm about to go my own way so tom is like all right so he took off and he was kind of laying low he was out playing basketball in the park i mean by himself and then some dude some white guy just comes up and starts talking shit to him and then says he's shady organization sure and we know what was so because he goes up to him and tells him pretty much tells him his whole story, man.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Yeah, you did this, you did that. And he goes, looks like you can be going away to prison for life. And then when they're sitting there talking, Tommy's like, all right, who do you want me to kill? And then they're like, all right. Because that guy did tell him, man, he was obviously a cop. Told him to look, man. If you help us and we can help you in and get you out of your big mess. And that's when telling me, they're like, who do I have to kill?
Starting point is 01:02:32 so that guy was telling Tommy about he was going to assassinate I didn't know he was Muslim I just thought he was a reverend well I guess he was a reverend but he was the black Muslim leaders he was Reverend Savior I think that was his name yeah he's he's real deal a similar rights guy
Starting point is 01:02:57 okay so they were saying he was supposed to be doing this big big meat this big speech talk and at some theater they said I think was up in Harlem
Starting point is 01:03:14 and he goes yeah he can't make that that speech so if you get into his organization get to him kill him for us everything will be good and your name
Starting point is 01:03:29 will be clear for everything so he was kind of like man all right all right i'll do it so um i don't really remember how how much time he had because that would have been no way he could have just all right learned all this and then the next day yeah it kind of it kind of was jumping time and as they as they were going you could see Tommy was kind of learning what what they were doing and was kind of changing his outlook on things, but he still was going to go through with the, I guess his mission, if you want to call it that.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Because they told him, he said, look, man, they, that guy told him, he said, look, man, we have people on the inside. So if you don't do it, what we're telling you to do, we're going to get you. Basically, they were going to kill him if he doesn't do it. So he was like, all right. But yeah, as, as Tommy was trying to get in there going. going to the meetings, going, listening to the speakers and everything and reading, um, uh, the, there weren't Bibles, the, I guess just the books of the, the Muslim religion.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Was it the Quran? I think so. He, he was, he was reading it and, I mean, and starting to get it. Yeah. I mean, he was realizing what he was doing with his life, uh, was, wrong and he was which which i thought he said was good because um Tommy called up some serious said yeah come meet me at at this restaurant and he went in there and they started talking and he was telling him goes yeah man he goes I'm I'm done with all that this is what Tommy told him with I'm done none of that matters anymore because what I'm learning here that's good because he told him was look man he goes you send you've been you've been telling me
Starting point is 01:05:24 this this whole time that there's more to life than what we were doing and all the stuff that we did growing up was was bullshit so sincere was like hey man that's cool though you know what me and me and uh teon we're gonna we're gonna move to africa and all that so he had the realist right reaction though
Starting point is 01:05:43 he was just like a man congratulations yeah like tevaas oh that's far like no shit it's a different continent uh oh um yes so they they were
Starting point is 01:05:59 talking and then they kind of did that was basically the last time they saw each other um Tommy didn't tell sincere what he what he was what his true intentions were uh on what his mission was it's always just all right man you have a good life and not at peace so sincere took off Tommy was still reading up and learning and studying and now we come to New Year's Eve uh they show a lot of stuff going on obviously they filmed this for what Well, they did a lot of filming during New Year's Eve in New York because there's, I don't think you can pack a Jillian extras down there. No.
Starting point is 01:06:38 And in Times Square just for this movie. So they kept showing Times Square and then we go to Harlem to Tommy. Gets in, I assume there was no security because he like just rolled right in there. he um the reverend uh knew he was coming and he told his security to leave him alone well that someone must have tipped him off so because he he rolled in uh and while while he was doing that oh let me back up a little um uh sincere is with that was when he uh when tommy was on the run when he went over there to check things out and saw that everything was
Starting point is 01:07:30 just not going the way they had planned all their little side hustles and everything was just shit everybody people were talking shit cops were looking for them that's when he went to up to Queens and he was talking a little shorty and trying to tell him to like man leave this bullshit alone this ain't for you
Starting point is 01:07:50 that little kid man wasn't hearing it because yeah man I had to shoot this guy up on the roof. And he was like, all right, man. Well, you're obviously ain't listening to me. So I'm out. So he got a rolled up. A little kid that is mind made up already. Um, uh, knowledge told, uh, Shameek, um, where, uh, his girlfriend, where Tommy's girlfriend, um, Keisha was living. And that, well, before they, before they found that out, um, Tion, Tibaz, she, she, she rolled up into her house. and she walked in and
Starting point is 01:08:27 uh, Shemique and all his boys, Method Man, they were all sitting in there and they were, we're looking for sincere. We're trying to find Tommy. Yeah, I like that scene.
Starting point is 01:08:38 They just, he just came out to dark. Yeah. All I saw was him. I didn't realize there was a whole crew of them until everyone pulled out of their guns. Because he tried to get up and walk up on her and tell her to, hey man,
Starting point is 01:08:51 we're not here for you. We're looking for Tommy. And then she pulls out of her. little gun and everyone saw those guys. That's when I realized there was more guys in there because everyone pulled guns out. And Shemegu was like, nah man, just put them away.
Starting point is 01:09:05 We ain't about that. All right, well, I'll see you later. And so they took off and she called sincere. I was like, ah, man, these fools came in there and they were in our house. And sincere was like, me, fuck this. We got to get out of here. So
Starting point is 01:09:19 then knowledge told Shemake, you're like, hey man, well, we can't finding with all right well I know where his woman's at so um shamek ended up going there and while all while that was happening is when Tommy was trying to get in to get to the reverend it was it was kind of bouncing back and forth uh with those two uh we skipped the the barber shop thing oh that's right which made no sense because this is this is this is uh what's his name black coming to get his revenge and I'm like why are you going after
Starting point is 01:10:00 sincere that was probably the one person that didn't talk shit to you yeah he can well one they one dude's on hiding one dude's dead and then the guy's in jail so yeah because uh that's right um sincere was at the barbershop basically telling all those guys yeah I'm out of here this is it going to africa never coming back. Stop, stop telling everybody. He was outside talking to one of his friends. And then,
Starting point is 01:10:35 I guess he must have not been too much of a friend because he was that one guy who was, sincere was talking to, he was holding a baby. He looked and saw Black and that other guy walking across, she goes, hey, man, I'm out of it. I see it later.
Starting point is 01:10:49 So he just walked away. Didn't even tell him, didn't even tell him like, hey, man, there's some dudes coming. Get his baby out of there. So black kind of gray man what's up man what's up what's up What's up? They were talking and he goes yeah He goes hey remember that shit we went down in the basement
Starting point is 01:11:04 And then black reached in to grab a gun Sincere kind of stopped his hand He pulled his gun out Black took a shot Um sincere took one to the leg And then Sincere just unloaded Black killed him
Starting point is 01:11:22 Did they hit the other guy too? Yeah All right so he killed both of them Horrible planned So he ran He hands his gun to one of his boys Here man get rid of this And he jumped in his car
Starting point is 01:11:34 And boons out And that's when he went back home We gotta leave now We gotta get out of here I just killed two dudes And He's like ah And so it was just getting crazy
Starting point is 01:11:46 So Oh excuse me Now it's New Year's Eve Tommy's getting into To get the Reverend Kisha's at home Shemique method man breaks in their house Yeah he's
Starting point is 01:12:01 Probably gonna I don't know He seemed like a crazy guy Yeah he came in talking shit and then She ends up slugging her and They kind of get into a little fist fight She's all beat up and then she hits Shemique with a Like an ashtray or something
Starting point is 01:12:19 So he falls down And she's ah Look what you did to me, you hit me And she grabs his his gun that he had pointed in his face and ends up killing him. And that's the last we see, Akisha, because we were back with the Reverend and Tommy.
Starting point is 01:12:38 And then the Reverend didn't even turn around. Tommy just came walking in, had the silencer on and goes, hey, I've been waiting for you. He goes, I knew you were coming. And he went into this big speech and basically was telling him,
Starting point is 01:12:52 I know some people put you up to this. basically tell him he goes look he goes you you can do it he was like you know what give me five minutes he goes because i told uh my security to leave he goes uh to be gone for 15 minutes he goes but i want to talk to you for five minutes before you do what you have to do and then he went into this big old speech on why uh his life was wrong and because uh Tommy was having all these flashbacks all these things they were doing that he did throughout the whole movie and earlier stuff so because he basically told him that he was um you were a tool of the man i mean that that's what i took from that old thing and he goes and kind of told him like look man
Starting point is 01:13:43 because if you do what you do for them because you're they're probably still going to kill you or still um lock you up so i mean he he said some other things he said he said a lot of good stuff but I mean if you sit there and watch that scene and listen to what he said it made sense and we and we knew why these these the shady shady guys or whatever it said a wide organization yeah it was a fucking cops it wasn't the cops it was the FBI or the government some kind of government agency that wanted him dead because he would do of same thing
Starting point is 01:14:26 they went after Malcolm X. They didn't like what he was saying. And it sucks that it happens. And I mean, it just seemed to me and what those guys, that shady organization wanted is all too true. I mean, they've done it before. And, I mean, they've done it to the black community. They've done it to the native community and everything.
Starting point is 01:14:51 I speak for the native side because this is just the stuff that that I know of. I mean, it's crazy on what they were trying to do. So I mean, I did like what Hype Williams was trying to say with this part, especially at the end of the film. I mean, because he didn't need to add this stuff at the end. He could have just been there could have been a big shootout and the movie would have been over. But, I mean, he was trying to say something at the end because I did like that.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Because when after the Reverend basically told him everything that he wanted to, him and then he said look man he goes you do what you have to do and then that's when all the security came charging and he was like no no no everyone just stop so but if tommy uh i feel if tommy didn't read up all the stuff reading the koran and learning everything i think he would just went there and killed him and not even thought about it because um because he was ruthless killer from the get go up to this point. He was ready to do it still. But I think the stuff that he learned in the books and then hearing what the Reverend told him,
Starting point is 01:16:07 I think that just, all right, man, I do it. So, I mean, that was the reason why he didn't, he didn't kill him. Because they ended up hugging each other. And one of those security guys came over quick, took that gun from him. And then Sincere is talking about, yeah, we're leaving. We ain't ever coming back. And last can be good for us when they get to Africa. And then that's your movie.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Yeah. And for what I understand, they didn't have enough money to have a scene in Africa. So, Nause just tells you they made it to Africa. All right. Tommy doesn't kill the guy. I wanted to, did. did they protect him or did the shady
Starting point is 01:16:56 organization still get Tommy I mean obviously they were they would kill him there was no there wasn't going to be any jail time so I I kind of really want to know what
Starting point is 01:17:09 what happened what became of Tommy after all this yeah I think they protected him as much as they could because there was still the fact of his fingerprints coming back yeah so
Starting point is 01:17:23 he could go and I said look this is this is what I was told to do this is what I was supposed to do but I'm sure that guy doesn't exist yeah I mean he's gonna say yeah they will I don't know you're talking about who and he can't say oh some shady organization
Starting point is 01:17:45 he doesn't know so I I think he went to jail and he's still in jail or he went to he because he had to go to jail I mean, because either he was just on the run this whole time or did they hide him? I don't know. But if he went to jail, if he didn't get killed in jail, I don't know, maybe he's just going to sit in jail forever because they did have, he was a part of the whole drug thing that everyone went down for. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:25 If he had to go to jail, I mean, it's not like he didn't. didn't deserve it. He did a lot of dirt before it got to that point. So but I felt like where he was at his life at that point. I could see him accepting that he needed to go to jail. Yeah, I do too. I mean, now that you say that, because of the stuff that he had learned. And again, like I said, he didn't have to read all that. I mean, I guess he did in a way, just to, because they told him, look, man, you, you got to believe it and read into what they say. in order to get close to that guy. So, but I think as he was reading and steadying, it was,
Starting point is 01:19:06 he was realizing that his life was bad and what he was doing was wrong. So, kind of, kind of backfired on you, shady organization guys. So, but, uh, I mean, it seemed the movie, like, again, the movie wasn't very long, and it seemed like it just, yeah, they didn't have money to go to Africa. Like I said, Nass told you they were there and it was beautiful. Yeah, this movie was released November 4th of 1998, 92 minutes. The budget was $3 million and it only made, is that $9 million? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Well. But I think just really when it hit VHS and DVD. I think it really does when it really got out there. Because if it was in the theater, it might have been just selected theaters because I don't even
Starting point is 01:20:20 remember, I go in movies all the time, especially during that time. I mean, I do not remember seeing anything for this film. And yeah, I'm sure it hit big once it hit VHS. I mean, like how King in New York was. I don't even think that wasn't a movie theater. Once I hit VHS, it just blew up.
Starting point is 01:20:41 But this is a classic film, a classic Hype Williams film. I guess the story was written by Nas, Anthony Bowden, and Hype Williams. So, but I really love this film. I think one of my other favorite films of DMX is Never Die Alone. That's a really good one, too. that one's um it was him and David Arquette uh it was it was David Arquette was a reporter and he was telling
Starting point is 01:21:11 uh the story was DMX writing all this down and that's how he read it all yeah I think uh think the movie's based off of Donald Goins book oh okay so I think it was yeah him kind of putting his life down on paper because that was a good movie
Starting point is 01:21:33 I mean I really I think that was one of the last movies that I saw where DMX was a star. I mean, I saw exit wounds and cradle of the grave and all those type of things. But
Starting point is 01:21:45 he left us with a lot of music. And the movies they had done sucks that I guess he had two more movies coming. There were one says that they were
Starting point is 01:22:05 filmed. and I don't know if he filmed his scenes but another one that one was dogman there's a fast vengeance I don't know what they did with that one I would like to see these other ones Fast and Fears, Death Race
Starting point is 01:22:21 I assume he filmed it Chronicle of a serial killer He's a detective in that And Have you seen Pimp? No He was misled Night, John.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Okay. Pimp 2018 stars Kiki Palmer and I am out. I do not like her. Why not?
Starting point is 01:22:50 She's extra. That's all I can say. She's extra. She's like the definition of extra. I feel like when she did, I'm not trying to go rant on Kiki Palmer, but I just feel like
Starting point is 01:23:05 when the cameras on her for whatever reason she has to be something else just to prove something yeah I'm like sit your ass down I only liked her in one movie and that was when she was a kid she was in that uh that ice queue movie uh the long shot about the the girl playing a quarterback for a football team oh that was her yeah that's the only thing I ever liked about her was that movie then she grew up Yeah, well, DMX, man. Just rest in peace.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Left us with music, left us with movies. So, yep. I think at some point we'll get to never die alone. I don't know if it's streaming anywhere, but I got it on DVD so I can dig it out. But all right, Brian. I don't even remember whose pick was the last time. I think we were going to do one more before we get to the bus picking the movies.
Starting point is 01:24:14 We were going to honor shock G. Oh, that's right. Nothing but trouble, which they label it as a horror comedy, I guess. That will be the next stream feeds. Yeah, all right. If you guys want to, if you haven't seen it, it's on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:24:36 so uh we'll get it to we get into it I had not seen that I don't know how horror comedy okay well we'll see I don't remember seriously I don't remember any of it I remember them digital underground in it
Starting point is 01:24:52 yeah Tupac as well but yeah next week we'll bring you nothing but trouble so what do you guys got going on horror returns unfortunately
Starting point is 01:25:05 we're doing a Patreon pick for our Patreon donor Lonnie Langston that guy he's got us doing horror musicals so we are doing the Rocky Horror Picture show
Starting point is 01:25:21 Little Shop of Horrors and I don't know what year it came out The Phantom of the Opera with what's his name? England? No fucking Leonidas uh,
Starting point is 01:25:35 Gerad Butler. That movie's like almost fucking three hours long. Really quick on that one. I watched it once. Will I watch it again? No. Um, I can appreciate it for what it is.
Starting point is 01:25:51 I didn't know that was Leonidas. What the fuck's his name? Um, um, Gerard Butler. I didn't even know he could sing. All right, cool, whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Um, Little Shop of Horrors, the original or the one with Rick Moranus and all that? I hope with Rick Moranis, because I really enjoy that one. Especially if you get the, get the Blu-ray, and you see that alternate ending, which is very dark. That one was cool. I did like the one with Jack Nicholson as well, the black and white one. But Rocky Horror Picture Show, have you seen it in the theater or? just VHS Blu-ray or whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Yeah, seen it that way. I was supposed to go one time. They had a thing at one of the smaller theaters up here. You know how everybody gets kind of dressed up for it and we were going to go, but we didn't. So never seen it in the theater. We did it on horropia, me and Jesse and Hellbilly. I had not seen it in a long time. The only time I had seen it before was when I saw it in the theater.
Starting point is 01:27:11 A friend of mine, she goes, come on, let's go see it. I had never seen it. I knew what it was. I knew everybody would dress up and all that. That's what made it fun. It was an experience to see it that way, which was awesome. Watching it by myself, no, just my TV. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:34 I know it's a cult classic, and I know. know everyone loves it, but I can't just sit and throw it in. I have it here in my library, but a friend of mine bought it for me. I mean, I picked up the steel book, so. I didn't go that far. I just got that. I didn't
Starting point is 01:27:51 own it, so I figured I could steal book and put it to use now because of Lonnie Langston. I can't watch it. I mean, it's just like, oh, come on. Again, seeing it
Starting point is 01:28:07 with the crown and everybody into it, that made it a good experience and I thought it was awesome. Plus, I was hot as fuck. But I guess that helps. It helps. I was a teenager, everyone, when I seen it. Soundtrack-wise, I can listen to
Starting point is 01:28:27 the soundtrack. I loved the songs and I loved everything. It was just the movie and all that I didn't really care for. But to each his own, I'm not saying it's a bad movie. It's just not it's not my bag baby so but yeah all right you guys are you guys are on your own on that one and of course we got the mortal combat annihilation of next on action
Starting point is 01:28:56 and I have even more shit to say about that movie because it took me a couple days to get through that one you keep stopping it's only an hour and a half oh it's so like I don't know like I forget that it's even on and I get up and do something and then I come back and I'm like oh damn I left it on I got to rewind it
Starting point is 01:29:22 ah yeah we'll get into that one I do want to watch that um the Mortal Kombat legacy not legacy um what's animated one Oh man, the old cartoon, that was Whatever the ones on HBO Max Oh, uh, Scorpion's Revenge
Starting point is 01:29:44 I guess That one, that one's pretty good Okay, I want to watch that My son must also watch it too Yeah, it's kind of like a Kind of like an origin story for For Scorpion No, well we'll get to the new one as well
Starting point is 01:30:01 Yeah Shout out to the League of Geeks we did it on there but as far as me East Society we just dropped a new episode episode two something I don't know
Starting point is 01:30:17 that's out there as well as a new episode 217 the E Society that's out in episode 129 of the my solo show the Magnus podcast I got the the host of the Oki podcast
Starting point is 01:30:35 Russell's son eagle he came on tells pretty much not his whole life story but a lot of it and listen to the Oki podcast got a ton of good guests on there
Starting point is 01:30:45 and it was cool to talk to him it was the first time I talked to him and hopefully he can meet up with him at some point throughout our lives when everything kind of goes somewhat to normal I don't see it going all the way normal
Starting point is 01:31:00 but I don't know we'll see how it goes but yeah that's all we got going on but yeah, come back next week for a fuck what wasn't nothing but trouble. Yeah, nothing
Starting point is 01:31:15 but I keep on to go. That's something sacred or something like that. Nothing but trouble and Mortal Kombat Annihilation for the action returns and whatever else we do here. So again everyone, thank you so much for listening. Please be safe out there
Starting point is 01:31:33 and come back. So until then Party on. Yep, and I'm just going to leave this here. Rest in peace, DMX.

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