The Horror Returns - THR Presents: Stream Fiends - Ep. #14: Belly (1998)
Episode Date: April 29, 2021This episode Brian and Nez head out east to hit the streets with Buns and Sin in the 1998 Hype Williams classic BELLY. Rest in Power DMX Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.faceb...ook.com/groups/841619946357776 Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns
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I'm thinking you was a real dread, man.
You scared?
Because you're good.
Hold on, hold on, wallon.
You come in my house.
Don't you ever bring scared business to me?
You're looking at the toughest rasclar, Jamaican, in the United States of America.
I run shit.
I kill for nothing.
And I make lots of money.
I deal with the business.
Don't bring that shit to me.
Again.
You hear a man?
Back everybody to another episode of T.A.
H.R. Present stream beans. I'm your host Brian. With me as always. My brother, Nez. What's up, man?
Yo, man. Work, work, work, man. That's all I can do. And cold snowing again. It's supposed to be like 80 degrees in a couple days. And that's like fucking freezing now. So I don't know. Crazy weather here in California. Are you guys done with the cold?
It was a nice day today.
It was, I think last time I checked, it was like high 60s, like 69.
Nice sunny day today.
So can't complain.
I think we hit like maybe 60, but it's 43 right now.
And it's going to drop to by at least 32 and then come back up.
That's still throwing my shorts on weather for me.
Hell no, man.
I'm at the point of wanting to make a fire,
but my wife's like,
I hell no.
I'm going to the store in shorts and some flip-flops.
No, not me, man.
So you got my sweatshirt and my long pants on.
But.
All right.
Who's, I don't even remember.
Who is your pick or mine?
I think it was a mutual thing because of,
if anybody doesn't know where we are,
talking about 1998's belly in honor of the late great DMX who recently passed.
And I just want to say he had a great sendoff.
I watched it online.
A lot of people showed up to his memorial.
And they had a nice little, I guess, driving through the streets.
They had a big monster truck with his name on the side carrying the casket in the back.
and it was pretty nice except for the one dude that got up on stage claiming to be a close friend
that they were trying to not let him get up there according to him and nobody knows who he is
right we're just going to get to the movie here belly 1998 when was the first time you checked us out
oh um it wasn't in a theater well where i was at um i think
when it hit VHS,
someone brought it to work.
And they were like, hey man, you like DMX?
Now, at that time,
I was kind of like, yeah, I mean,
I heard a few songs. I wasn't really
deep into him yet, but I knew
who Nas was. I was like,
oh, he goes, yeah, Nas and
with the T-Baz from TLC.
And
I was like, okay, man, whatever.
Just throw it in. Let's see it.
I guess someone he knew was friends with Hype Williams
so that was one of the reasons why he was trying to hype it up
so luckily no planes were coming in
because I sat there and watched the whole movie
and I assume it was 98 99
I'm not sure whenever it came out on VHS is when I seen it
I wasn't expecting much because I was like Nause is acting
but right
let's see what he can do
movie said and done
I was like damn that was hell of good
and then I ended up buying it myself
on VHS
and I loved it
I mean every
every form
DVD is it on Blu-ray?
Yeah it's out there
it's out there on Blu-ray
Okay well I guess I should be getting it then
but yeah man I love this movie
It was one of those movies that
I can
throw on whenever and just enjoy it. It's not very long. It's only like an hour and a half, something like that, maybe hour and 40 minutes. But it was good. I was, I was more shocked at DMX because this was his first movie, right?
I want to say, yeah. I mean, I'm double check here. Because I was a movie. Okay.
This was two years before Romeo almost die.
he was only in it for like a second in that one so um yeah i mean i was just like all right cool man uh
i took it for what it was and i thought it was really good the one that impressed me the most was
dmx uh because he other than just being a street thug i mean he knew that life so we he did it just
put it on screen uh set his lines did what he had to do and it was a really good move
movie. Hi, Williams. I know I've seen other films of his, but this is the only one that really
stood out to me the most. I don't even know what his other movies are really. I do if I don't
have the list pulled up in front of me. So I know at that time he was he when at that time when
hip-hop videos were like spending large amounts of money, he was like one of the go-to guys at that
time when they when they well I guess people still are making videos but they just
ain't they're spending like millions of dollars on them anymore so but so I'm
looking at his a filmography right now I'm just seeing nothing but videos so I thought
he did some short short films not really sure I mean he's done so much he's done so much
worked with everybody.
Yeah, I'm looking
here. It looked like he was originally
going to do the Speed Racer
movie. And then
they went with the Wachowski's.
And I can't see any.
I could have swore. I saw some
short
films he had done. And that's something in to someone
else. No, no. He's done
some short films. I know that. Okay.
I don't think it's saying here, though.
yeah he worked with everybody
Jamie Fox
Kanye
LL Janet
Mabdit
He was that guy
Yeah he was
Well
Did I see cold play on this
Yeah cold play
Okay
You go where the work is
Oh man
J-Lo
Beyonce
Nicky Minaj
Are you a Nicki Minaj fan
yes and no
I know what she's capable of
but I think because of the fame
and her status
she kind of got away from that and got
into the more pop
bubble gum
radio friendly music
no more
what's her song
something fat pussy or wet
I don't know
Oh, that's, that's, that's, that's Megan the stallion.
Oh, it is?
Yeah.
See, I had to get.
Now, now she, she, she can go on the mic.
But I just, I mean, I don't mind it.
I ain't going to lie.
I don't mind the, the, the, the, the sexual, you know, lyrics and videos.
But I just like when, when you can really go with, with the lyrics, when you got talent like that, I don't, I don't think it should be a thing that you have.
to do, you know, but
I guess
that's, you know, sex sells.
Yeah, it does.
But I don't know. I'm just
an old fart now,
so I'm still listening
to Fad Boys, DMC
and them, the Houdini.
Not wrong with that.
Shit, I think I think
actually, yeah, I've seen this in the theater.
I think it was just me and my
two friends. We were like the only ones in the
theater.
And it was mainly because of
DMX and Nas and then we
heard Method Man's in it
and sat there.
And yeah, it was
I agree with you. Blown away by DMX.
You know, he was clearly the
best one out of this
I don't even know if I want to call them actors
because there was some
bad acting going on in here.
Nas,
you're a legend man, but
stick to music.
Tebas was horrible.
Like I laugh every time that that one scene comes up
when she's just like,
to Africa?
Hmm. That's far.
You know, just, like, it's so bad.
And the one chick that plays DMX's
a girl, Terrell Hicks,
she's fucking horrible too.
I'll let it slide.
man
and what got me was
she wasn't bad in a Bronx tale
yeah so I was kind of like
what happened here or maybe it was just
going off of T-Baz
because some of their
dialogue with each other I was just like
but I thought everybody else was fine
you know I was you know method man
I think that's a guy that's
made to be in music and
movies
So, what is his name?
Tyron Turner, Kane.
He kind of steals it for me because he has a memorable character in here,
not just what he's saying, but his look.
I'm not sure if that was the director or him that decided to go with that look,
but I'm all fine with it because it makes me laugh every time I see it.
But yeah, I like the story.
It goes by fast.
You kind of, you know, you go through what they're going through kind of quickly.
You know, their rise up to where they're at.
And I guess their downfall and it just kind of, it goes, boom, boom, boom.
You know, it hits all the, hits all the marks for me.
And yeah, it's definitely, to me, it's a classic.
It's a, it's for like hip-hop movies and gangster movies.
It's a classic to me.
but you know some of the acting is what it is but you know i i i enjoy it every time i watch it
um what what i loved about it was um
if you watch hype williams all the videos that he's made he's got this certain kind of
style and i don't know with maybe a certain kind of uh film that he used because this was
all during the film era i'm sure it was slowly getting into the uh
the digital age, but
I just like how he did.
A lot of low shots, he did.
And I don't know if it was just this movie or
it's
there was a lot of bright colors, but there was
a lot of dark
times on the screen
where you really couldn't even see
what was happening. I mean, I think the scene that I really
love the most is when
sincere
Nas is talking to
Shorty, that
little thugged out dealer
and sitting in front of the
projects in Queens.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
It was
the
I don't know if he used the blue filter
or what, but it just
I don't know that that scene, I just
liked the way he shot it.
And the little kid that
Shorty's name was Eric Keith
McNeil.
For a little ass kid,
I mean, sitting there's puffing on fat blunts and slaying.
I was like, damn.
I mean, it looked like he knew what he was doing.
You could tell when someone's smoking that doesn't know how.
It's just like puffing and big puff of smoke come out.
No, you can tell when someone inhales.
I don't know if it was weed.
Maybe it's probably just tobacco.
But something about that scene I've always loved.
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
saying because I think it added to the
because it kind of made
I don't want to say the situation
or the conversation was kind of
down like that because he's
speaking about the reality of him
being out there on the street corner and stuff
like that so I think it just added to the whole
mood
yeah I mean
this movie it
I don't even think there was really any like
happy times it seemed like it was just
a downer from
from beginning to end I mean there was
always something happening and it just the life of crime being out there doing it I mean I mean
I know nothing of that life I grew up seeing it but I never really got into that stuff
because moms would have whoop my ass so but I mean a lot of my friends fell into the dope game
and some aren't here and some just did so much there's always that rule don't get high in your
supply and then your brain did but I mean I love this movie I remember showing it to one of my
buddies that knows nothing of this life only from what he sees on TV and on the screen and he was
always scared to come to come to our neighborhood because he was like he'd come pick me up and
we'd go do whatever and he was always looking over his shoulder I'm like do what's the
matter with you I don't know man I mean he was a white guy
I don't feel right in this neighborhood.
I'm like, dude, man, just don't worry about it.
If you look scared, maybe someone's a good bother you.
But it wasn't like he was rolling hard, man.
He had a beat up a bull car with different colored doors and crack windshield and all that.
But it was the first car he ever bought.
He actually put it together himself and got it running.
That's why it was all pieced up.
It ran to God us from A to B.
But yeah, this movie, it was cool, man.
I mean, it spoke to me at times.
I mean, just because of the stuff that I'd seen growing up,
but I really enjoyed it.
I mean, I thought the acting, yeah,
I understand Nas and I can understand T-Baz.
But there was some, there was a couple of other guys that maybe they're still acting.
I don't know.
But you can see that they were phoned it in.
But overall, I mean, the whole movie, I mean, definitely, like Brian said,
It's a hip-hop classic and definitely a DMX classic.
He's done tons of movies.
Big parts, little parts with, I couldn't even tell you how many where he was the actual star.
I know he was in the process of making some new ones, but then we all know what happened.
I mean, I never dove.
I don't know if the family are releasing.
anything but um i heard that i heard the album was done oh was it yeah um i think uh they were talking about
how he he was working in a snoop studio and i think they was about to you know start to roll out
for the album and you know tragically he passed away so yeah well uh we got tons of music to listen
too and the movies that he had done
we can still enjoy those
I mean his legacy and hip-hop
is there and no one can take it away
I know
I've said this before
with his lyrics
some people may not agree with it
and I understand that
I mean
you guys probably don't even like half the shit that I say
but
it's just I mean
it's hip-hop man
I mean that's go
if you're
your history
hip-hop is
really wide and open
I mean you can listen to everybody
go back to the beginning
and listen to lyrics up to all now
I know
a lot of these
fools are calling this
the PC era
yeah
I understand
I understand
but
I'm still
I'm still in it man
I keep up with things
and there's a lot of shit
that I don't
I don't I don't see how they call it the PC area.
Now,
a lot of people get,
try to put them in that cancel culture shit or shit they say.
That a lot of that goes on.
I think,
I think sometimes,
I know we should be talking about the movie,
but I think sometimes,
it's more mainly dealing with,
um,
whoever's big at the time.
Yeah.
So,
I mean,
all the underground stuff,
that nobody knows about me
to say what the hell you want.
No one's going to care.
But I think they go more
after whoever's
who's big. I don't even know who's big now.
Yeah, because I
almost feel like people are
just waiting.
Oh, yeah.
Because there's a rapper.
I'm pretty sure you don't know.
His name is Sada Baby.
He, he's out of,
I think he's out of Detroit.
Had a hit song.
Really started, you know,
popping off and then
people hit him with the
I remember these tweets you had from years ago
but the thing with him was like he
was not apologizing for anything he said
years ago
it is what it is and
you know stuff like that I just kind of feel like the people are just
waiting like oh this this person's about to make it big
so let me let me go through the social
media and dig up some you know
and that I just
that drives me crazy.
Yeah, I mean, let's just say for whatever reason,
you and I become huge doing this show.
Of course someone's going to be digging back,
listening to every, all the old stuff we had done
or just searching our names and all that.
I mean, I mean, yeah, I guess that's how it is.
I mean, the internet can be good or bad.
But I don't know.
I mean, I don't apologize for the stuff I say.
I mean, I don't really go radical with some of the things I say.
But I always do with the, it's my opinion.
I mean, so, I mean, that's all I can say.
But, I mean, I do watch what I say.
I don't, I don't degrade women or promote bad things.
I mean, I don't do stuff like that.
But yeah, I got a foul mouth and I talk a lot of shit.
But if you know me, I mean, you know me.
I mean, if you really, all of all of you, all of you that know me like on a personal level, you know how I am.
You know how I roll.
So, but I don't know.
Um, yeah, belly.
Yeah, let's talk about the movie.
You guys know how we do it here.
Um, I don't know.
To get us back into the movie, one of my favorite scenes, I love it so much, is the opening.
Because you got that just that dark night club and with the black light.
And you got the, what's the song, Soul to Soul, Back to Life.
It's, it's the acapella part that just, that really does it for me.
It's the acapella as they're like going through the club.
and then as soon as the robbery happens,
then the beat kicks on.
And I love this opening.
What I loved about it is how the slow motion he used.
I don't know if he had them put contacts in their eyes
because as they're walking along,
you can see the whites of their eyes.
I think that looked just like just tough.
I loved all that.
It's like a music video.
yeah I mean
well you can
that's what I said you can clearly see that
if you watch his
videos and then watch this movie
you could you could see his style of
filmmaking and that's what I loved about it
um but this
all this is the beginning of this film
has taken place in 1999
in Queens and New York
and yeah
Buns
DMX or
aka Tommy
and
Sincere.
I have to.
This,
O,
Nas did not make no sense here.
Tommy,
Bundy,
or he says something,
Buns or Tommy for short,
or he said something.
I was like,
that does not,
it's not short for buns.
I don't know.
I don't get it.
I don't know.
But these two guys,
they grew up together.
So,
I mean,
they've been boys since they were kids
and,
they were out there doing dirt since they were kids probably but yeah they just roll up
why did they roll in there and rob this nightclub just to do it or that's what they did
they just they just seemed like they just got money however however they can okay i thought
there was a reasoning for why they went in there and uh killed the chick there was running a place
because when they roll up in there
man plus I love this scene right before
they walk through the whole club as they're
going up the stairs they put on these white
um just like
ski masks or whatever
and then they just roll in silencers
and start letting
whoever's in that room get it and
I assume because they said yeah we got that bitch so I assume it was
the lady because she was
the one that went push flying out the window
right onto the dance floor
fell on somebody
But they just grabbed all the money and just bont out of there.
So yeah, they're just, yeah, man.
They take off.
This scene, I love it.
I mean, they end up going to Tommy's house, DMX.
And they were just going to count the money because it was them two or them three
because there was another guy in there with them.
I think somebody named him.
Mark and a guy named Black.
Black was the guy that they were always
talking shit to. Was he the
one that took the car? Yeah.
The getaway car and he
took off and got rid of it.
So Mark went back to
the house with Tommy and
Sincere. I love this scene because when Tommy
walks in and he goes, oh, you know, man, watch this man. This shit's
bugged out. And he turns
on Harmony Carine's gummo.
Have you seen that movie?
that's a fucked up movie
the first time I saw that I was like
what the hell I was like what is this
it's the scene when if you guys have seen the film
it's the scene when those two little
cowboys are talking shit to that
one kid that never spoke in the
whole movie with the bunny ears
you fucking rabbit
you smell like fucking piss
or shit
you smell like a pound
a bullshit
oh man that seems crazy
Look up gummo little cowboys or whatever on YouTube.
And it's, yeah.
It was nuts.
I mean, I'm sure.
I'm sure Harmony Corrine is,
his friends with Hype Williams.
That's probably why they put it in there.
One of my buddies, James,
he was like, oh, man, I've seen that movie.
That's that movie, Gummo.
And that's what I'm like, what?
So we found it on VHS and watched it.
it's a movie
yes it sure is
I love that movie I love
Harmony Corrine I didn't like that last
movie he did no not the last movie
Spring Breakers
with um
James Frank
James Frank
they stole what's his name's whole
gimmick
or that rapper riff raff
that movie was a whole
horrible. I mean, Harmony Corrine, I mean, he's done a lot of good shit, but that, nah, bring
breakers, it was garbage. Too much of a budget, I think. But anyway, um, they're sending
in the counting of money and, uh, Mark is the one. He goes, let's start counting this money before
you guys start hiding it. And DMX, Buns, Tommy, Bundy, whatever you guys want to call him.
I had a friend like this. You cannot joke.
around about anything and well anything serious and yes this was about money but when
your boys you joke around but uh buns took it seriously like man I mean you
heard my feelings say sorry and Mark is like is this guy for real and he goes all
man I'm sorry I'm sorry but then he yelled at him really he goes hey man he's you
better keep it down or uh what the hell was her name Keisha she didn't come down and then
And that's when Nause starts talking about Keisha.
Yeah, she's got big tits, big ass, black.
And don't give a fuck or whatever.
A get on I. Amy Campbell.
Yeah.
Ooh.
I don't know none about her acting except for this in Bronx Tale, but God damn, she's fine.
I think she tried to be a singer and that didn't work out.
I think she's beautiful.
I mean, I liked her when she was in Bronx Tale.
he was only in there for a little bit towards the end but um so this is what they do i mean they're they're
just trying to get their money anywhere they can um we we go to nass sincere's house this is when
he introduced to his wife uh teon played by t-bos and they have a little kid they got a nice
big house somewhere i mean like not a big house but just a nice house um tommy was the one that
had the huge big mansion type of house.
So we just kind of get to know them and everything.
He's got the little family.
But then Tommy, he starts just trying to make that next dollar,
trying to make that big, the big money.
So he finds out some stuff about some kind of new wave heroin or something.
They're saying it was like, whatever it is,
it was that thing.
It was at the experimental stage.
I was saying it's so good to fuck you up.
I mean,
you don't need to shoot it up.
You don't need to smoke it, snort it, or whatever.
All they said, all you got to do is touch it.
And it gets in your skin.
And I don't know what everyone does.
But so he was, Tommy was trying to get a sincere.
Like, come on, man.
We got to do what we got to do, man.
Let's just make this money.
So he was kind of like, well, all right.
man I mean I'll roll with you but um Tommy had to see um there was this Jamaican drug lord ox
yeah rest in peace Louis Rankin did you have to put the subtitles on that first couple
times I could not understand him I I don't I'm not gonna say I understand but I
understand a little bit because um uh growing up my wife uh I met
her from her brother and her cousins because I grew up with them and one of their cousins,
her boyfriend was from Jamaica and he used to talk like that.
But now, now he's more, you can understand him now, but a little,
little bit I understand.
I kind of catch it, but there's times when I'm like, I don't know what the fuck you're
talking about.
That was my friend.
They were from Jamaica, but they, he was, well, his parents were from Jamaica.
and he was born here.
I remember his mom and dad had that accent,
but I don't know how long they were in America
and it was just slowly going away.
Or maybe I was just around him a lot
that I was able to understand it.
But I remember when he had some family come in,
I could not understand them at all.
I mean, I caught words here and there.
I mean, especially with the slang
because my friend talked that way.
Because I remember when I first met it
when he was saying the slang words,
I was like, what?
And then he went, oh, and then he would tell me.
I was, oh, okay.
And then as we got to know each other, I mean, he'd throw them in.
But I knew what he was saying because he explained him to me.
But I remember sitting there in the backyard and she was just talking, talking.
And I was, she even said, I understood this.
She didn't even understand me.
And I was like, okay.
And they were all laughing.
She always came up and gave me a hug.
But yeah, this.
guy ox man he was just straight
what he called himself he was
the original
the original Jamaican
donda
I mean
I had
no this scene I
I watched enough time so I knew
what he was talking about but then
later on when he's
when he's when these when he's
the hit squad goes after him
I had to put the subtitles on that one
but
so um
Tommy was it was talking to ox
come on man i know you got the connections and and we can make this money and then uh ox was kind of
all right man well you know what he goes i got you i hook you up but you're gonna owe me favor later on
you're like all right man cool whatever so they started up uh with uh with the with the heroin
and i mean they were they were doing what they were doing uh in new york oh excuse me
but this scene right here was nuts man because they were down there counting up the money
uh after they were selling because they were just kind of like a montage of them
slinging him and uh this is one there it was Tommy sincere
I think Mark Black and a couple of the guys were in there
and Black was the one was there was sitting there drinking the 40 right
yeah man I ain't gonna say his name but I knew a guy like this
I did two.
I knew a couple of guys like this.
But they were all sitting there.
I mean,
they're just smoking and the discounting the money.
But then he was just sitting there not even saying anything.
And then they were,
I mean,
hanging out with your boys,
you get the clowning.
And then he took it all serious.
Yeah,
because you can,
you can see his expression.
And DMX even says that he's like,
I feel a lot of heat coming off that couch.
Yeah, because then when he got up,
like he was going to do something,
spilled his beer and they're like,
oh, hey, all the money's right here.
As him, DMX walked up on him.
Like, yeah, man, he had to clocked him
and then pulled out his gun, strip,
made him take off all his clothes.
He was scared.
He was like, oh, man, man, come on, come on, come on.
Everyone was just laughing,
and he just stripped,
and then Tommy let off a couple shots.
in the house.
Yeah, mind you,
I think they're in somebody's grandma's
basement.
Yeah.
So he, like,
just made him,
just made him strip and
had him sitting on the couch
naked and everything.
You can get yours,
you can get yours be.
And there they are.
All right,
man,
whatever.
You're going to get yours.
You're going to get yours.
I thought he was going to start crying.
I thought he was for a second.
But,
um,
because there were
saying um i mean
after after that
thing um
they were dealing um
they had another guy come in some guy
named knowledge
yeah and um
they were uh
Tommy kind of did was Tommy the one to overheard
them talking about they were gonna um
they were gonna rob sincere
for his part of the money
yeah all right
so they kind of got into that
but um
they didn't really do anything.
I think kind of Tommy just kind of,
you know what,
let me just chill,
but everything was all good.
So as they were starting to get the,
the heroin going,
and then they left Queens and they went to
Omaha, Nebraska,
just to,
all right, man, we can go down there,
we can sell, we can stay here,
and we can just make our money down there
because everybody wants drugs down there.
So they basically rolled in this,
these new guys,
rolled into someone else's territory and um what was that guy's name big head riko yeah
aka cane from menace society big head rico yeah so they were down there doing they kind of had a
montage of them slinging and everything but then they go cruising there was uh buns and or Tommy and
sincere driving down the street and a big and his crew came out man what was up with that
perm.
I don't know, but he was enjoying that banana.
I'm going to drop a dime on them.
I don't like that.
I'm like this at all.
Which is,
it's just weird.
He just,
the first thing that comes to his head is he's going to snitch.
I know,
man.
I mean,
it was not even though thinking about anything.
That was the first thing out of his mouth.
I'm going to drop a dime on them.
I was kind of like,
man, try to handle it first.
And if you can't,
then if you got it then do that but um he already had the block locked down and here come
these two new guys trying to run everything which obviously they were because if everyone
was buying for them because big was like man my pockets are getting small so i don't know what
they were slinging must have been like i guess good enough for the locals there until
tommy and bunn showed up or Tommy and since they showed up and then um i assume this was that new
the heroin that they were talking about
because they kind of they just talked about it and then that was it
and the next thing you know they show them selling it so
a big head Rico
so they
they were kind of um
oh man
after they dealt with
uh
big head rego he they never he didn't have no scenes with them
right no
okay
so um oh he uh that's right he did he he told uh he called the cops and told them what was up so that's
when they raided the house uh their stash house and um mark was the one because they
was like in um it wasn't a house weren't they kind of like a little small like two level project
area? Yeah.
So when the cops busted in on them,
grabbed everybody in there, Mark was the
one that was on the roof that jumped out the window.
And then he
was just trying to run and the cops
rolled up and they started
shooting on him. And he
took one to the shoulder.
And then he was just, he was firing
back of the cops and he just jumped in the car
and hauled it off.
And barely made it a block and
he crashed.
Yeah, because he passed out.
Yeah, he's adrenaline wasn't good.
It didn't look like he lost that much blood, but he just,
luckily he did pass out because when he crashed into the back of that semi-trailer,
dude, that shit would have killed him because I would have smashed.
That would have smashed his heads because the cops ran over there, pulled him out.
So he didn't die, did he?
Or did, no, he did die.
Yeah, because you didn't hear from him.
Yeah, so, oh, knowledge was the one that got arrested and whoever else was on that.
So knowledge was in jail
He got a hold of Tommy
He was like hey man
Come bail me out
And he's kind of like all right I'll deal with you
So what Tommy was just kind of pussyfooting around
And wouldn't do it because I know they had that phone call
When
Knowledge called
Let me see
It was method man
But what was his name?
Shameek
Yeah he called him and told him
was like, hey man, this fool name Big Head Rico
kind of dropped the dime on us.
So I kind of need you to help me out.
So he was like, all right, man.
So he, Shemeek, went to Omaha, Nebraska,
and was just trying to find out who this guy was,
who Big Head Rico was.
So he kind of found out he rolled up on them
because Rico was running his business out of a bar.
barbershop and then one of his guys came in,
hey man, there's this guy out here, man.
He wants to meet.
He wants to meet whoever's in charge.
So big head Rico goes out there and just,
he must be little because all his guys were hell of big.
And that perm, man, I can't get over it.
I mean, it was like a sloppy perm at that.
One of his boys that was with him had the better perm.
It was more crimped and everything.
his shit was probably real yeah i don't think being that looked like a wig it's probably why it looked bad
and his thick-ass glasses so he ended up going to get this i didn't get this whole scene i didn't get
why method man uh shemique had to go undercover and then the lead up to this where you know
they're they're in the strip club you know getting to know each other and drinking and then they
they drug method man yeah i didn't i didn't get why they did that they didn't
troops serum or something i don't know i think we're just gonna make him pass out and they're
gonna kill him or rob them or i don't know what they were gonna do uh
but i don't know it's not like they gave him some kind of date rape drug so i don't know what's
going on here yeah i don't know so i mean
if I get drinks in a bar,
that shit's in my hand
soon as the bartender hands it to me.
But yeah, so they're sitting there bullshit
in the strip club
and
Big Henrico
dumped some kind of powder
and Shemique's called in his shot
and he powers that and then
they start kind of talking about business
and then all of a sudden
you see him just like, oh myrude kind of
what the fuck's going on
getting the double vision
him. Big Head Rico
pulls out his gun, like he's going to do
something. Shemick
pulls his out. No, he pulls two of them
out. He
blast Big Head Rico.
He goes crashing down.
At this point, he's
not seeing straight, because he's
just firing off
his pistols in every
direction.
He kind of gets his
back to the door and the bartender
pulls out a shotgun.
I'm surprised I didn't kill him unless he had a vest on.
Yeah, he had a best.
Okay, because that was not point blank, but close enough.
And it blew him out.
And luckily the cops were coming by unless somebody called the cops right when the shooting started.
Because he rolls outside, Shemeek Method Man, and he's just firing at the cops.
and then his buddy's outside in the car,
they jump in and take off.
So,
that,
Shemique went in there to kill Big Head Rico
just because he dropped the dime on them.
And that was pretty much it for them.
Yeah,
that was that story.
Yeah,
because, yeah,
there was stories all over in this one.
But Tommy and them,
that's when Tommy found out
when Knowledge called him
and told him that,
they got everything and they're not anything do about it so Tommy's like man fuck man I mean
what are we gonna do man we got to get ox's money and everything and then so well
then you know we can do so um they find out the the cops find out no no no no not yet um
Tommy's got to do that favor for ox yeah because uh ox called him up to say hey man
I got we got to go
so Tom is like all right man
so he kind of just tells us and see him now I'm
going out of town so they fly off to
Jamaica all right this part was
it was kind of trippy I didn't get what was going on
Tommy and Ox are sitting in the car
talking and Ox is kind of explaining him okay this
this is what I want you to do
uh there's this there's this guy named Sosa
and Sosa was like the son of whoever
the local drug lord was down there.
So I guess that drug lord, him and ox, don't see eye to eye,
so I'm a kill his son.
Or you're going to kill his son.
And then everything's going to be good between us.
But anyway, while they're talking,
do those little kids that just come running them?
That one's holding the gun and they're knocking on the window.
What?
Were they trying to sell the gun?
No, I think they were letting them know that they're down to do whatever.
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah, because Ox told him because
yeah, this is the ghetto where they were driving through.
So, but I was never the one for
reggae,
dance hall type of stuff that's going on.
But, I mean, I like the dance hall stuff.
But some of the traditional reggae that's just more slow and
mellow.
I don't know.
I just could never really.
I can listen to it, but I can never really get down, get down with it.
Like the stuff that was going to be bumping in these,
um,
and these clubs,
that was cool.
Yeah.
And was that,
um,
hell's that fool name.
Sean Paul.
Was that him on stage?
Okay.
Yeah,
that was,
this was,
uh,
pre pre fame Sean Paul.
Oh,
before he,
uh,
before he was doing songs with Beyonce where
Jay Z was,
overseeing the video because you know you can't touch biance you perform over there
was that song you had oh uh was that to forget about your boyfriend and me me in the hotel room
is that him i don't know is that shaggy no i don't i think it was shawapel i don't know um i i would
somebody knows
but
um the reason I ask is because
when I saw him I was like
I think that's Sean Paul I mean but I couldn't tell you
any of his music but whatever they were doing on stage was good
so and uh so because yeah they rolled through that club
I mean just to because Ix are telling yeah man
we're yeah I and get you chicks and this and that but
he goes we got uh I think that's when he showed him
uh when he told him who uh
Sosa was.
I think when they went to the club is when he
had to see him.
And what was up with the chicken feathers
in Sosa's hair?
I, you know, it might be
a cultural
thing. I don't know. Or maybe that
was just his style or something.
So, yeah,
because they told him that.
And while all this is going on since
he was back in New York,
just trying to,
other than keeping
his family together, but was this
a scene when he was
telling
Tebas, he was like, look, man, he goes,
I want to get out of this life, we should move
to Africa. Was that during this time?
Africa.
Oh, that's far.
T.B.
Yeah. I think this is
a little montage of him basically
wanting to get his life together,
and he's like, he's reading books
and expanding his mind and
seeing that, you know, they don't want to raise his family around this life anymore.
I don't know what part of Africa they wanted to go to, but my friend, my buddy right now,
he lives over there.
He used to live in South Africa.
He's from Ghana, and he's back there now.
And he's like, it's messed up over there.
He goes, man, I need to get back to America.
He's got kids over here.
But he wants, he goes, I just want to come back to America.
America because I guess where he's at is just out of control.
He said,
it is a war zone.
Yeah.
I said,
okay,
I believe him.
I believe him because he,
because he messaged me every now and then.
I always got to check on him,
make sure he's all right.
He actually got shot some years back.
And I got shot in the lake.
Something was going down and he caught a stray one and then ended up amputating
his leg.
but he got a lot of acting jobs
down there
because I had seen some pictures
he was dressed up like a soldier
and his pants was all shredded up
and I was like dude what's from there
I was in this movie
and I was one of the soldiers
that lost his leg
and I was like oh damn
but whatever he is doing
now in Ghana
he says it's out of control
so Tommy's there
and I liked how he did this
I was a Sosa
and I guess his girlfriend
or whatever in some car
and Tommy comes rolling out
Hey, hey, he's got
Her dreadlock wig on
He's pounding on
He's pounded on the window
Wash your windows, watch your windows
Give me a dollar or whatever
So, so so rolls
The window down Tommy pulls out his gun
And every gun they had pretty much
Had a silencer, he just pulled that a long silencer too
He pulled that out
Pumped a couple into him
I'm surprised he didn't kill the girl
Because she, ah!
She jumped out of the car and took off
and Tommy walks away, camera pulled back,
we see Sosa laying there just full holes.
So they end up oxen, Tommy ended up taking it all back to America.
But when, while right before Tommy got back home,
when knowledge and all those guys got busted,
knowledge called
what's her name
Keisha from jail
looking for Tommy
and then I guess
that's
using the jail phone
they traced it to him
so they went over there and raided his house
because I'm sure they record
all the
calls that come out of jail
oh yeah so that's
how the cops
they went in, kicked in the door, and raided her, raided that house looking for Tommy, but he wasn't there, but she was, so she ended up going to jail.
And then, because when Tommy rolled up, he saw, like, he said it was the feds, because when he rolled up to his house, he saw all the cops there, all the cars and the lights were on.
He was like, ah, man, so he bumped out.
That's not real.
They would have got him.
They would have locked down that whole neighborhood.
yeah because he got close enough to to see the house that they would have it blocks you can't drive up and then all of a sudden reverse quickly out we can't it doesn't work like that yeah for the movie it had to well they couldn't focus in on the house if he stopped way down the street especially something big like this if it was the feds man yeah that would have close on
off that whole pretty much that whole neighborhood so she goes down he take Tommy takes off
uh hooks up with sincere calls him hey man where you been and then he was come on coming over
and he came out and that's when the Tommy told him look man the feds were in my house they got
kisha everybody's going down and they're trying to figure out well what happened
and that's when they figured out that it was um it was knowledge uh was a one that was a one that
called the house.
I don't know how Tommy figured it out, but yeah, he figured it out.
So they were trying, like, man, what are we going to do?
What are we going to do?
Because that's your man.
That's your man.
I mean, everything is just went to hell.
So he's like, damn, what am I going to do?
Because they didn't know what to do.
So he ends up just leaving town.
he kind of just
Tommy takes off
At this point
The cops really don't know
Sincere's involvement in it all
So
We go back to Jamaica
The
The drug lord
Sosa's father
I think his name
Was some guy named
Phelp
Or Phelpa
I can't pronounce the name
Um
No no he don't
Pelp
was a close friend of
Sosa's and he's the one
that found out the ox was the one
that had Sosa killed.
So that's when
Sosa's dad,
whoever the drug lord he was, he had
they hired some hit squad
to go out to come
to America and get ox.
And ox is just, it was
kind of reminded me of just like Scarface
pretty much the same thing.
is sitting there watching TV and he's hella high and luckily he looked down on his little
computer screen that he had well I think that was a remote control but he saw all the
he's got little screens on it so he saw all these guys running into his yard did he not
have security I guess not I don't think anyone was there but him no I mean not even the
housekeeper nobody he's just
one was gone.
Sitting there watching TV with a
giant bowl of weed.
He must see.
He was sitting on that AK because he
jumped to the ground and pulled it out from under
the cushions. And then
he turned the, he turned the lights and the TV
off and then all these bullets
come flying in. And then
he just grabs his
his AK and runs in, kind of runs out
the hall. You want to romp with me?
He goes, I am the
original. I killed him for fun.
And he just starts black.
I don't know how many fools rolled into the house, but he just was lighting everyone out.
I mean, it was stupid to roll into a dark place with laser sighting.
Because they can fucking see you.
But he took him all out like a champ.
He just rolled kind of like into the main entrance.
And they were coming through from the roof.
Because he was just blasting fools left and right.
because he could see their laser sightings
because the house was dark.
He kind of just slid onto the floor
and wherever those lights were coming
the red beams were coming from.
He was just lighting everyone up.
And who was this chick
with the S&M mask?
It was the female assassin
that apparently that's all they should have just sent was her
because he never seen her coming.
Uh-uh.
Because she was creepy.
When they were in Jamaica,
of their shoulder. I was like, damn, who was this?
So, but
after he had done
killed everybody and he
was the original, Don, Dada
Jamaican of the United States.
He said some other things, but I couldn't
understand him. I understood,
you want to rump with me? That's all I
that's all I could make out.
And
Bumba Cloud or whatever,
I
can't remember what that meant.
he said a lot
yeah so as he said
they're still talking shit I mean
everyone's dead because there's bodies laying
everywhere
there's a laser sighting still
pointing in pretty much up in the air
because these guys are dead
he's standing there still talking shit and you see
this assassin lady
with a
I assume she had like
S&M gear on or something
because she had one of those tight
masks in her hair with the
feathers and everything sticking out of the top and she did she jump right on to him or
did she like land on the ground and get him kind of seemed like she kind of landed on him
all right yeah because she jumped off the the second floor which was pretty high man
it didn't look like it was a short jump she landed right on top of him he fell to the
floor and then she pulled his neck back and slid his throat and that was the end of ox so
So, yeah, no, we jumped ahead.
This is when Sincere was talking about, he was scared that Bons is getting too paranoid and all that.
And he doesn't know what's going to happen.
He goes, that's when he told his wife, T-Bos, that we should move to Africa.
So they were going to plan on leaving because we were coming to the end of 1999.
So while Tommy was just kind of laying low.
he was still trying to make that money.
So he ended up starting slaying weed.
There was two guys in the beginning of the film.
Wise and my kid.
Yeah, two talking about, man, we about this money.
We bought this money.
Because he was yelling at it.
He goes, man, you guys want to make all this money?
Because why don't you learn how to pack weed first?
Because they had a pound or something.
They would try to break, make whatever they could off of that.
know what's what did they even say?
I don't know.
Well, wherever they were.
Tommy and
Wise and La Kidd were sitting
in some restaurant.
Just drunk. I'm sure they were high
talking shit. And then
Wise and La Kidd got into it.
Because I just
I don't know.
Talking shit and one guy couldn't handle it
and he pulled out his gun. I don't remember
who it was. Stuck to
gun and I tell you man this is what I think about it
and they're like what and they will fuck you and then
both of them pull out guns
and dude um
only one of them got killed right and that
the one took off yeah
and DMX just was sitting there laughing
smoking
because he was trying to tell him
that man you guys better chill before you guys do something
and when those guys pulled out their guns
that that's when everybody in the restaurant went
ah everyone started running
and then they were still talking and shit
and that's when that guy
pulled out
it says
Laquid shot WISE
All right so La Cade must have just took off
And the wise was laying there dead
Yeah but Tommy was so drunk
He just pulled out of blunts
Or it was a cigarette or whatever it was
Started smoking
And then he got arrested
But while he was in jail
Who did he call?
Did he call?
I don't know if he called anybody
he called somebody when he was in there because he was saying oh no he did he called um sincere
because he told him he said look man i can't be sitting in here he goes i need you to bail me out
before his prints come back because if his prints come back that's when they were going to realize
that he was a one that was with knowledge and all those guys when they raided his house
so uh sincere went over there bailed him out he got out uh before anything happened so
sincere was like all right man he goes on i'm about to go my own way so
tom is like all right so he took off and he was kind of laying low
he was out playing basketball in the park i mean by himself and then
some dude some white guy just comes up and starts talking shit to him
and then says he's shady organization
sure and we know what was so
because he goes up to him and tells him
pretty much tells him his whole story, man.
Yeah, you did this, you did that.
And he goes, looks like you can be going away to prison for life.
And then when they're sitting there talking, Tommy's like, all right, who do you want me to kill?
And then they're like, all right.
Because that guy did tell him, man, he was obviously a cop.
Told him to look, man.
If you help us and we can help you in and get you out of your big mess.
And that's when telling me, they're like, who do I have to kill?
so that guy was telling Tommy about
he was going to assassinate
I didn't know he was Muslim I just thought he was
a reverend well I guess he was a reverend
but he was the black Muslim leaders
he was Reverend Savior I think that was his name
yeah he's he's real deal
a similar rights guy
okay so they were saying he was supposed to be doing
this big
big meat
this big
speech
talk and at some
theater they said
I think was up in Harlem
and he goes yeah
he can't make that
that speech so if you
get into his organization
get to him kill him
for us
everything will be good
and your name
will be clear for everything
so he was
kind of like man all right all right i'll do it so um i don't really remember how
how much time he had because that would have been no way he could have just all right learned all this
and then the next day yeah it kind of it kind of was jumping time and as they as they were going
you could see Tommy was kind of learning what what they were doing and was kind of changing his
outlook on things, but he still was going to go through with the, I guess his mission,
if you want to call it that.
Because they told him, he said, look, man, they, that guy told him, he said, look, man,
we have people on the inside.
So if you don't do it, what we're telling you to do, we're going to get you.
Basically, they were going to kill him if he doesn't do it.
So he was like, all right.
But yeah, as, as Tommy was trying to get in there going.
going to the meetings, going, listening to the speakers and everything and reading,
um, uh, the, there weren't Bibles, the, I guess just the books of the, the Muslim religion.
Was it the Quran?
I think so. He, he was, he was reading it and, I mean, and starting to get it. Yeah.
I mean, he was realizing what he was doing with his life, uh, was,
wrong and he was which which i thought he said was good because um Tommy called up some
serious said yeah come meet me at at this restaurant and he went in there and they started
talking and he was telling him goes yeah man he goes I'm I'm done with all that this is what
Tommy told him with I'm done none of that matters anymore because what I'm learning here
that's good because he told him was look man he goes you send you've been you've been telling me
this this whole time that there's more to life than what we were doing and all the stuff
that we did growing up was was bullshit
so sincere
was like hey man that's cool
though you know what me and me and uh teon
we're gonna we're gonna move
to africa and all that so
he had the realist right reaction though
he was just like a man congratulations
yeah like tevaas
oh that's far
like no shit it's a different
continent
uh
oh um yes
so they they were
talking and then they kind of did that was basically the last time they saw each other um Tommy didn't tell
sincere what he what he was what his true intentions were uh on what his mission was
it's always just all right man you have a good life and not at peace so sincere took off
Tommy was still reading up and learning and studying and now we come to New Year's Eve
uh they show a lot of stuff going on obviously they filmed this for what
Well, they did a lot of filming during New Year's Eve in New York because there's,
I don't think you can pack a Jillian extras down there.
No.
And in Times Square just for this movie.
So they kept showing Times Square and then we go to Harlem to Tommy.
Gets in, I assume there was no security because he like just rolled right in there.
he um the reverend uh knew he was coming and he told his security to leave him alone well that someone must
have tipped him off so because he he rolled in uh and while while he was doing that oh let me
back up a little um uh sincere is with that was when he uh when tommy was on the run when he
went over there to check things out
and saw that everything was
just not going the way they had planned
all their little side hustles and everything
was just shit everybody people were talking shit
cops were looking for them
that's when he went to
up to Queens and he
was talking a little shorty and trying to tell him to like
man leave this bullshit alone this ain't for you
that little kid man wasn't hearing it
because yeah man I had to shoot this guy up
on the roof. And he was like, all right, man. Well, you're obviously ain't listening to me. So I'm out.
So he got a rolled up. A little kid that is mind made up already. Um, uh, knowledge told,
uh, Shameek, um, where, uh, his girlfriend, where Tommy's girlfriend, um, Keisha was living.
And that, well, before they, before they found that out, um, Tion, Tibaz, she, she, she rolled up into her house.
and she walked in
and
uh,
Shemique and all his boys,
Method Man,
they were all sitting in there and they were,
we're looking for sincere.
We're trying to find Tommy.
Yeah,
I like that scene.
They just,
he just came out to dark.
Yeah.
All I saw was him.
I didn't realize there was a whole crew of them
until everyone pulled out of their guns.
Because he tried to get up and walk up on her and tell her to,
hey man,
we're not here for you.
We're looking for Tommy.
And then she pulls out of her.
little gun and everyone
saw those guys. That's when I realized
there was more guys in there because everyone pulled guns
out. And
Shemegu was like, nah man, just put them away.
We ain't about that. All right, well,
I'll see you later. And so they took
off and she called sincere.
I was like, ah, man, these fools
came in there and they were in our house.
And sincere was like, me, fuck this.
We got to get out of here.
So
then knowledge
told
Shemake, you're like, hey man, well, we can't
finding with all right well I know where his woman's at so um shamek ended up going there and while all
while that was happening is when Tommy was trying to get in to get to the reverend it was
it was kind of bouncing back and forth uh with those two uh we skipped the the barber shop thing
oh that's right which made no sense because this is this is this is uh what's his name
black coming to get his revenge and I'm like why are you going after
sincere that was probably the one person that didn't talk shit to you yeah he can
well one they one dude's on hiding one dude's dead and then the guy's in jail so yeah
because uh that's right um sincere was at the barbershop basically telling all those guys
yeah I'm out of here this is it going to africa
never coming back.
Stop, stop telling everybody.
He was outside talking to one of his friends.
And then,
I guess he must have not been too much of a friend
because he was that one guy who was,
sincere was talking to,
he was holding a baby.
He looked and saw Black and that other guy
walking across, she goes,
hey, man, I'm out of it.
I see it later.
So he just walked away.
Didn't even tell him,
didn't even tell him like,
hey, man, there's some dudes coming.
Get his baby out of there.
So black kind of gray man what's up man what's up what's up
What's up? They were talking and he goes yeah
He goes hey remember that shit we went down in the basement
And then black reached in to grab a gun
Sincere kind of stopped his hand
He pulled his gun out
Black took a shot
Um sincere took one to the leg
And then
Sincere just unloaded
Black killed him
Did they hit the other guy too?
Yeah
All right so he killed both of them
Horrible planned
So he ran
He hands his gun to one of his boys
Here man get rid of this
And he jumped in his car
And boons out
And that's when he went back home
We gotta leave now
We gotta get out of here
I just killed two dudes
And
He's like ah
And so it was just getting crazy
So
Oh excuse me
Now it's New Year's Eve
Tommy's getting into
To get the Reverend
Kisha's at home
Shemique method man breaks in their house
Yeah he's
Probably gonna I don't know
He seemed like a crazy guy
Yeah he came in talking shit and then
She ends up slugging her and
They kind of get into a little fist fight
She's all beat up and then she hits
Shemique with a
Like an ashtray or something
So he falls down
And she's ah
Look what you did to me, you hit me
And she grabs his
his gun that he had pointed in his face and ends up killing him.
And that's the last we see,
Akisha,
because we were back with the Reverend and Tommy.
And then the Reverend didn't even turn around.
Tommy just came walking in,
had the silencer on and goes,
hey,
I've been waiting for you.
He goes,
I knew you were coming.
And he went into this big speech and basically was telling him,
I know some people put you up to this.
basically tell him he goes look he goes you you can do it he was like you know what give me five minutes
he goes because i told uh my security to leave he goes uh to be gone for 15 minutes he goes but i want
to talk to you for five minutes before you do what you have to do and then he went into this big
old speech on why uh his life was wrong and because uh Tommy was having all these flashbacks
all these things they were doing that he did throughout the whole movie and
earlier stuff so because he basically told him that he was um you were a tool of the man
i mean that that's what i took from that old thing and he goes and kind of told him like look man
because if you do what you do for them because you're they're probably still going to kill you
or still um lock you up so i mean he he said some other
things he said he said a lot of good stuff but I mean if you sit there and watch that
scene and listen to what he said it made sense and we and we knew why these
these the shady shady guys or whatever it said
a wide organization yeah it was a fucking cops it wasn't the cops it was the
FBI or the government some kind of government agency that wanted him dead
because he would do of same thing
they went after Malcolm X.
They didn't like what he was saying.
And it sucks that it happens.
And I mean, it just seemed to me and what those guys,
that shady organization wanted is all too true.
I mean, they've done it before.
And, I mean, they've done it to the black community.
They've done it to the native community and everything.
I speak for the native side because this is just the stuff
that that I know of.
I mean, it's crazy on what they were trying to do.
So I mean, I did like what Hype Williams was trying to say with this part,
especially at the end of the film.
I mean, because he didn't need to add this stuff at the end.
He could have just been there could have been a big shootout and the movie would have been over.
But, I mean, he was trying to say something at the end because I did like that.
Because when after the Reverend basically told him everything that he wanted to,
him and then he said look man he goes you do what you have to do and then that's when all the
security came charging and he was like no no no everyone just stop so but if tommy uh i feel if
tommy didn't read up all the stuff reading the koran and learning everything i think he would
just went there and killed him and not even thought about it because um because he was ruthless killer
from the get go up to this point.
He was ready to do it still.
But I think the stuff that he learned in the books and then hearing what the Reverend told him,
I think that just, all right, man, I do it.
So, I mean, that was the reason why he didn't, he didn't kill him.
Because they ended up hugging each other.
And one of those security guys came over quick, took that gun from him.
And then Sincere is talking about, yeah, we're leaving.
We ain't ever coming back.
And last can be good for us when they get to Africa.
And then that's your movie.
Yeah.
And for what I understand, they didn't have enough money to have a scene in Africa.
So, Nause just tells you they made it to Africa.
All right.
Tommy doesn't kill the guy.
I wanted to, did.
did they protect him
or did the shady
organization
still get Tommy
I mean obviously
they were they would kill him
there was no
there wasn't going to be any jail time
so I
I kind of really want to know what
what happened
what became of Tommy after all this
yeah I think they protected him
as much as they could
because there was still the
fact of his fingerprints
coming back
yeah so
he could go and I said look
this is this is what I was told to do
this is what I was supposed to do
but I'm sure that guy doesn't exist
yeah I mean he's gonna say
yeah they will I don't know you're talking about who
and he can't say oh some shady
organization
he doesn't know so I
I think he went to jail
and he's still in jail or he went to
he because he had to go to jail
I mean, because either he was just on the run this whole time or did they hide him?
I don't know.
But if he went to jail, if he didn't get killed in jail, I don't know, maybe he's just going to sit in jail forever because they did have, he was a part of the whole drug thing that everyone went down for.
So I don't know.
If he had to go to jail, I mean, it's not like he didn't.
didn't deserve it. He did a lot of dirt before it got to that point. So but I felt like where he
was at his life at that point. I could see him accepting that he needed to go to jail.
Yeah, I do too. I mean, now that you say that, because of the stuff that he had learned.
And again, like I said, he didn't have to read all that. I mean, I guess he did in a way,
just to, because they told him, look, man, you, you got to believe it and read into what they say.
in order to get close to that guy.
So, but I think as he was reading and steadying, it was,
he was realizing that his life was bad and what he was doing was wrong.
So, kind of, kind of backfired on you, shady organization guys.
So, but, uh, I mean, it seemed the movie, like, again, the movie wasn't very long,
and it seemed like it just, yeah, they didn't have money to go to Africa.
Like I said, Nass told you they were there and it was beautiful.
Yeah, this movie was released November 4th of 1998, 92 minutes.
The budget was $3 million and it only made, is that $9 million?
Yeah.
Well.
But I think just really when it hit VHS and
DVD. I think it really
does when it really got out there.
Because if it was in the theater,
it might have been just selected
theaters because
I don't even
remember, I go in movies all the time, especially during that time.
I mean, I do not remember
seeing anything for this film.
And yeah, I'm sure
it hit big once it hit VHS.
I mean, like how King in New York was.
I don't even think that wasn't a movie theater.
Once I hit VHS, it just blew up.
But this is a classic film, a classic Hype Williams film.
I guess the story was written by Nas, Anthony Bowden, and Hype Williams.
So, but I really love this film.
I think one of my other favorite films of DMX is Never Die Alone.
That's a really good one, too.
that one's um
it was him and David Arquette
uh it was it was David Arquette was a reporter and he was telling
uh the story
was DMX writing all this down and that's how he read it all
yeah I think uh think the movie's based off of Donald
Goins book
oh okay so I think it was yeah
him
kind of putting his life down on paper
because that was a good movie
I mean I really I think that was
one of the last
movies that I saw where
DMX was a star. I mean, I saw
exit wounds and cradle
of the grave and
all those type of things.
But
he left us with
a lot of music.
And the movies
they had done
sucks that
I guess he had two more
movies coming. There were
one says that they were
filmed.
and I don't know if he filmed his scenes
but another one
that one was dogman
there's a fast vengeance
I don't know what they did
with that one I would like to see these other ones
Fast and Fears, Death Race
I assume he filmed it
Chronicle of a serial killer
He's a detective in that
And
Have you seen Pimp?
No
He was misled
Night, John.
Okay.
Pimp
2018 stars
Kiki Palmer and I am
out.
I do not like her.
Why
not?
She's extra.
That's all I can say.
She's extra.
She's like the definition
of extra.
I feel like when she did,
I'm not trying to go
rant on Kiki Palmer, but I just feel like
when the
cameras on her for whatever reason she has to be something else just to prove something
yeah I'm like sit your ass down I only liked her in one movie and that was when she was a kid
she was in that uh that ice queue movie uh the long shot about the the girl playing a quarterback
for a football team oh that was her yeah that's the only thing I ever liked about her was that movie
then she grew up
Yeah, well, DMX, man.
Just rest in peace.
Left us with music, left us with movies.
So, yep.
I think at some point we'll get to never die alone.
I don't know if it's streaming anywhere,
but I got it on DVD so I can dig it out.
But all right, Brian.
I don't even remember whose pick was the last time.
I think we were going to do one more before we get to the bus picking the movies.
We were going to honor shock G.
Oh, that's right.
Nothing but trouble,
which they label it as a horror comedy,
I guess.
That will be the next stream feeds.
Yeah, all right.
If you guys want to, if you haven't seen it, it's on YouTube.
so uh
we'll get it to we get into it
I had not seen that
I don't know how horror comedy
okay
well we'll see I don't remember
seriously I don't remember any of it
I remember them digital underground in it
yeah
Tupac as well but
yeah next week
we'll bring you nothing but trouble
so
what do you guys got going on
horror returns
unfortunately
we're doing a Patreon
pick for our Patreon
donor Lonnie Langston
that guy
he's got us doing
horror musicals so we
are doing
the Rocky Horror Picture show
Little Shop of Horrors and
I don't know what year it came out
The Phantom of the Opera with
what's his name?
England?
No
fucking Leonidas
uh,
Gerad Butler.
That movie's like almost fucking three hours long.
Really quick on that one.
I watched it once.
Will I watch it again?
No.
Um,
I can appreciate it for what it is.
I didn't know that was Leonidas.
What the fuck's his name?
Um, um,
Gerard Butler.
I didn't even know he could sing.
All right,
cool,
whatever.
Um,
Little Shop of Horrors, the original or the one with Rick Moranus and all that?
I hope with Rick Moranis, because I really enjoy that one.
Especially if you get the, get the Blu-ray, and you see that alternate ending, which is very dark.
That one was cool.
I did like the one with Jack Nicholson as well, the black and white one.
But Rocky Horror Picture Show, have you seen it in the theater or?
just VHS Blu-ray or whatever.
Yeah, seen it that way.
I was supposed to go one time.
They had a thing at one of the smaller theaters up here.
You know how everybody gets kind of dressed up for it and we were going to go, but we didn't.
So never seen it in the theater.
We did it on horropia, me and Jesse and Hellbilly.
I had not seen it in a long time.
The only time I had seen it before was when I saw it in the theater.
A friend of mine, she goes, come on, let's go see it.
I had never seen it.
I knew what it was.
I knew everybody would dress up and all that.
That's what made it fun.
It was an experience to see it that way, which was awesome.
Watching it by myself, no, just my TV.
I don't know.
I know it's a cult classic, and I know.
know everyone loves it, but I
can't just sit and throw it in.
I have it here in my library, but a friend
of mine bought it for me.
I mean, I picked up the steel
book, so. I didn't go that far.
I just got that. I didn't
own it, so I figured I could
steal book and put it to
use now because of Lonnie
Langston.
I can't watch it.
I mean, it's just like,
oh, come on.
Again, seeing it
with the crown and everybody
into it, that made it a good experience
and I thought it was awesome.
Plus, I was hot as fuck.
But I guess that helps.
It helps.
I was a teenager, everyone, when I seen it.
Soundtrack-wise, I can listen to
the soundtrack. I loved the songs
and I loved everything. It was just the movie
and all that I didn't really care for.
But to each his own, I'm not saying
it's a bad movie. It's just
not it's not my bag baby so but yeah all right you guys are
you guys are on your own on that one and of course we got
the mortal combat annihilation of next on action
and I have even more shit to say about that movie
because it took me a couple days to get through that one
you keep stopping it's only an hour and a half
oh it's so like
I don't know like I forget that it's even on
and I get up and do something
and then I come back and I'm like oh damn
I left it on I got to rewind it
ah yeah we'll get into that one
I do want to watch that um
the Mortal Kombat legacy not legacy
um
what's animated one
Oh man, the old cartoon, that was
Whatever the ones on HBO Max
Oh, uh, Scorpion's Revenge
I guess
That one, that one's pretty good
Okay, I want to watch that
My son must also watch it too
Yeah, it's kind of like a
Kind of like an origin story for
For Scorpion
No, well we'll get to the new one as well
Yeah
Shout out to the League of Geeks
we did it on there
but as far as
me East Society we just dropped
a new episode
episode two
something I don't know
that's out there
as well as a new episode
217
the E Society that's out
in episode 129 of the
my solo show the Magnus podcast
I got the
the host of the Oki podcast
Russell's son eagle
he came on
tells pretty much
not his whole life story
but a lot of it
and listen to the Oki
podcast got a ton of good guests
on there
and it was cool to talk to him
it was the first time I talked to him
and hopefully he can meet up
with him at some point
throughout our lives
when everything
kind of goes somewhat to normal
I don't see it going all the way normal
but I don't know
we'll see how it goes
but yeah that's all we got going on
but yeah, come back
next week for
a fuck
what wasn't
nothing but trouble. Yeah, nothing
but I keep on to go. That's something sacred
or something like that. Nothing but
trouble and Mortal Kombat Annihilation
for the action returns and
whatever else we do
here. So again
everyone, thank you so much for listening.
Please be safe out there
and come back. So until then
Party on.
Yep, and I'm just going to leave this here.
Rest in peace, DMX.
